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Unvaxxed Australians can’t leave the country because of a WHO treaty: “We’re protecting the world”

WHO World Health Organisation

Here’s a surprise for all you Australians trapped in Australia because you chose not to take part in a medical experiment. The reason you can’t leave is not for your own health. It’s not for the health of fellow Australians. It’s because we are “protecting the rest of the world”.  This is a world where where fully vaccinated travellers have already spread Covid to every country on Earth and at least 72 countries are happy for you to turn up on their door with your tourist dollars and without a vaccine.

As Senator Rennick says: “I cannot for the life of me see the health risks in an unvaccinated person leaving the country.”

Paul Kelly, Australia’s Chief Medical Officer explained that it was due to Australia’s International Health Obligations. That’s an international treaty we signed because we’re a member of the WHO. As far as a quick search turns up, Australia, Canada and the UAE may be the only nations still banning their own citizens from leaving. In Canada, things are so inexplicable, the vaccinated don’t even need to do a test anymore. So people infected with Covid are free to fly in or out of Canada shedding virus everywhere.  But healthy unvaccinated people “will need to be tested at the airport and again eight days after arrival, and isolate for 14 days.” Righto.

The Australian PM Scott Morrison keeps telling us he opposes mandates, yet he hasn’t said “boo” about this international treaty. Indeed, if the Australian government was set up as a subsidiary wing of Pfizer and Moderna, they could hardly have done more to lift profits

Below Senator Rennick asks Paul Kelly, Australia’s Chief Medical Officer, at the Senate Community Affairs Legislation Committee why unvaccinated Australians can’t leave the country. It may take two repeat-viewings to get the message, there is no sunset clause on locking in the refuseniks.

The Good news is that finally the two year Pandemic Emergency Biosecurity powers are about to end.

The Bad news is the government plans to make other rules that will still stop unvaxxed Australians from leaving.

Australian citizens who wish to travel without getting injections will still need to swim, paddle, ride crocodiles, or renounce their citizenship. Perhaps Prof Kelly is hoping to use this as a “booster” bonus carrot? Will they ban the two-jabbed?

From Senator Rennicks Facebook account.

No one in their wildest mind can pretend it’s about your health anymore:  viral loads in both the vaccinated and unvaccinated reach the same levels. Vaccines double cardiovascular risk factors and don’t appear to improve our chances of staying alive overall. In fact US Military Data shows a frighteningly higher rate of vaccination injuries — a 300% to 1000% increase medical billing items related to miscarriage, cancer, neurological conditions, fertility problems and pulmonary embolisms.

The vaccine data is so bad, it’s commercial in confidence.

The WHO is a menace — They only had one job in the last 50 years, and they failed dismally, now they want more power.

Remember February 2, 2020? That’s when the WHO could have saved millions of lives and told the world to turn off the flights and keep the Wuhan Flu in Wuhan. Instead Tedros, the former belt-n-road Foreign Minister of Ethiopia, told the world ridiculous fictions and Chief Health Officers believed him.

Now the WHO wants bigger better pandemic treaties. Like the IPCC but so much worse.

A few years ago, before Covid, the WHO recommended Australia needed to do more to overcome “vaccine hesitancy”. Apparently we needed electronic systems for storing information on ill travellers, and we needed to establish centralized vaccination registries… that’s page 28 of the recommendations from “Australia’s National Action Plan for Health Security 2019-2023 “.

We think the WHO should overcome it’s “cheap drugs hesitancy” and start saving lives instead.

Thanks to Sharon W and previously David Maddison

REFERENCES

Australia’s International Health Obligations

The Emergency Declaration in March 2020 with the ban on overseas travel.

PDF printable version of Australia’s National Action Plan for Health Security 2019-2023 – PDF 1464 KB

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164 comments to Unvaxxed Australians can’t leave the country because of a WHO treaty: “We’re protecting the world”

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    David Maddison

    As I have previously said, Australia is a fanatical follower of UN decrees.

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      Peter Fitzroy

      Without the WHO, we would still have endemic smallpox in the world.

      [Logical fallacies. Please reply at #44. – Jo]

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        Eng_Ian

        And without the CSIRO we’d have no cane toads in Australia.

        If you can justify the current mistake(s) based on past performance, then you will never find a problem. And you’ll never fix it.

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          Peter Fitzroy

          [Defending your own logical fallacies with an ad hom? — Not on this site PF. -Jo]

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            Eng_Ian

            Peter, That sound you hear at night, when the house goes quiet, is still me and a whole lot of other people laughing at you.

            And by the way, I’m a vegan once removed. Herbivores eat grass, I eat them. For whatever benefit that you think that might make to the discussion.

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          Eng_Ian

          Thanks for the correction, I fell for the myth that the CSIRO were the villains. My bad.

          But I stick by my premise, if one good deed completed earlier is sufficient to prevent any questioning of the persons intent then why don’t murderers walk free, after all, they all sweet little babies, (to someone’s eye).

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            What an achievement. Peter Fitzroy #1.1 — so many logical fallacies in so few words: You wrote an inappropriate generalization, as well as Appeal to tradition, and probably Reductio ad absurdum, False Equivalence (Smallpox is not Covid), Wishful thinking (The world may have solved it some other way, and did the WHO really solve it?), all wrapped in essentially Argument from Authority implying “Everything the WHO does is 100% right”.

            Comments about smallpox and canetoads copied below to #44.

            Please dont reply to PF here Go to #43 #44.

            Let’s talk about the WHO and Covid not PF and his mistakes at #1. Thanks.

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        Peter Fitzroy

        no

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        Strop

        Peter, what’s the relevance of your WHO smallpox comment in application to David’s comment?

        David didn’t say the WHO fails 100% of the time. It appeared to me he was simply saying Australia fanatically follows UN decrees. Which is not a good thing for us to do as a default position.

        Each country needs to carefully consider their own circumstance and what’s best for their own citizens. That may mean not following UN initiatives from time to time and taking each one on merit. Not simply falling in to line with an organisation that has agendas that may be or are contradictory to our interests.

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          Strop

          Sure Peter. The fact that I advocate that we shouldn’t by default follow the UN does leave the door open for a UN vaccination program to be circumvented by a nation or nations not wanting to impose that program on its citizens. But my advice isn’t to never follow the UN so that also means that a vaccination program like smallpox could still be achieved. You’re wrong to assert that my advice means we would still have smallpox.

          …. Australia had a role in the creation, and sees the UN as providing a stage where the Australian view can be heard

          The fact that our view is to be heard by the UN implies our view might be different to other nations’ views and therefore any UN decision might be contrary to our view. Hence why we need to consider each UN direction on its merits.

          Did you support the extended lockdowns like we had in Vic & NSW Peter? If so, you went against the UN’s recommendation. Careful. You could create a smallpox revival with such thoughts 😉

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          Ronin

          In the UNs’ original guise, it was created to prevent a rerun of world wars, sadly , marxists took it over in the intervening years.
          It is now unrecognisable from its original form.

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        b.nice

        Without the WHO we probably wouldn’t have had the CV-19 plandemic.

        They made so many gross errors at every juncture, that its hard to believe it was anything but deliberate.

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        Lee

        It was the implementation of the Leicester method that stopped small pox. WHO had initally supported vaccines but its own report about smallpox in Yugoslavia stated the vaccines were not successful and they implemented a version of the Leicester method.

        [This is interesting, thanks Lee, but off topic at #1. Please continue this at #44. –Jo]

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        el+gordo

        [Snip but accurate]

        Unvaccinated Australians cannot depart these shores because of WHO. It is what it is.

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        Guess you never heard of cowpox parties. Before vaccination, it was deliberately spread as a protection technique against smallpox. Medical treatment imitates that practice.

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      Ted1

      There will surely be a Royal Commission into the management of CV19. When it comes we should try to ensure that the “science” of the Hole in the Ozone Layer and CAGW are brought into the argument.All are scams built on and dependent on public ignorance of science.

      And the Bushfires Royal Commission should get an analytic scrutiny, too.

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        John R T

        Please,remind me how often must I add lime to my pond? Acid rain and forest death, you know!

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        tonyb

        Ted1

        Will the terms of reference look deep into the heart of those who cheerfully shut down your country and in some states seemingly want to keep it shut? This article could explain Victoria. The leader is surely a Cromwellian

        “If there is one excuse that can be given for Johnson turning into Cromwell, it is that he has not been alone. The English-speaking world has been pretty disgusting during the pandemic years. Australia has reverted to its former status as a Prison colony, Canada has decided that it should make clear the differences between it and the United States by abolishing liberty altogether, and New Zealand has based its new look on North Korea. These were frontier societies in which people stood and fell by their own efforts; they were hardy and strong. Now they twitch behind curtains while their governments threaten them with fines. England, as Nicola Sturgeon pointed out, is an outlier in this game. Our restrictions were lifted last July and barely touched since, despite a slight panic around Christmas. Even if one looks at out nearest neighbours, the Puritan strongholds of Wales and Scotland, one can see a stricter policy than we enjoy between the Thames and Hadrian’s wall.

        It seems clear then that no matter how incompetent Boris is, there are worse people waiting in the wings. Almost all centre-Left parties called for longer lockdowns and tougher restrictions; they are the summation of the Puritan tradition.

        https://dailysceptic.org/2022/04/07/boris-is-the-cavalier-who-let-the-puritans-win-and-is-now-paying-the-price/

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      David Maddison

      In countries that are more committed to their people rather than world government they simply decided to ignore whatever WHO required because it wasn’t in the best interests of their people.

      Obviously the Australian people don’t count as far as Australian politicians and unelected bureaucrats are concerned.

      Australia is significantly governed by external UN decree rather than internal governance and will be an eager participant in global government when it comes.

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        Sommer

        Here’s some extremely important information that everyone needs to be aware of and figure out what to do to effectively respond.
        My apologies for this source.

        https://www.rumormillnews.com/cgi-bin/forum.cgi?read=196960

        While everyone is looking at Ukraine, the WHO is planning a power grab to give it legal powers over the pandemic response in 190 countries.

        James Rogusky has put together this amazing resource on his Substack, informing us about what’s happening and a call-to-action and what we can do….

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          Ted1

          Yairs! The US does have a snotty nose. But:

          I spent the first 45 years of my life in the confident expectation that modern communications would save us from future wars. Having lived all your life in Australia you could believe that. Then I realised that people never change, there will be more wars. But I didn’t predict this one.

          90 years ago Stalin sent an army into Ukraine to ransack the houses and steal all the stored food and leave the Ukrainians to die of starvation. Which they did in their millions.

          The descendants of those that survived The Holdomor will never forget that. And the memory will sustain a deep hatred of all things Russian. A hatred that ordinary Australians could never understand.

          The US of A is not without fault here, but it was the Russians who determined that war is the solution. And it was the Russians who imposed The Holdomor.

          Joe Hockey, in a parting comment after an interview on SkyNews, expressed deep concern for the famine and resulting turmoil that will ensue if the Ukrainian and Russian wheat crops fail to be sown, harvested and transported as a result of this war. Joe’s concern is well founded.

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      David Maddison comment,’Australia is a fanatical follower of UN decrees.’

      Yes, except with regard to the Nuremberg Code.

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    philemon

    WHO “treaties” are worthless and don’t amount to a tinker’s curse. Your government is just trying to pass the buck.

    Let’s start with:
    * What is this so-called Treaty?
    * What does it commit Australia to?
    * Why did Australia sign it? Did they? Is it officially ratified?
    * Why do these terms not apparently apply to other countries?

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      In fact worse than useless. The WHO covered for China, warned us far too late, and told us to allow in planes full of a bioweapon. The WHO killed millions of people. All the lockdowns and deaths could have been easily avoided all over the world. For all the years the WHO existed, its sole purpose was to stop global pandemics. Despite being signed up, we had no pandemic plan, other than a 56 page 100 year old influenza guideline, our supply chains were hopelessly vulnerable, and then we did ineffective things to stop the spread of viruses like banning safe medicines, and using untested vaccines of an entirely new technology.

      The WHO provides an excuse for all our national leaders to fail “together”. “We’re just following the health advice” said Scott Morrison who listened to CHO Brendan Murphy, who quoted Tedros-the-beholden-to-Xi of the WHO.

      Who’s accountable? Tedros is still the head honcho, despite there being a million signatures on a petition to sack him. The CHO got a new job. Scott Morrison made the decision to parrot the wrong organisation, and he’s still doing it.

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      Deano

      I remember in the early 90’s (before the internet took off) politicians frequently claimed Australia had signed onto a UN agreement obliging us to do (whatever). At times, I was pretty sure no such agreement existed and used as a ‘pull-the-wool-over’ excuse to dismiss sticky questions. These days, a quick net search can verify if such an agreement exists and thus, it’s an excuse used far less now.
      But they still seem to get signed without any public discussion beforehand.

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        James

        ILO conventions come to mind. Sign them and then never ratify them. But get more power for the Federal Government.

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    bobby b

    What better way to achieve the illusive World Government than a pandemic?

    But it’s not quite working, so maybe they release the really bad variant next. They’ll get their “wider powers” that way!

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      philemon

      Their really bad variant was released.

      That’s. the best they could do?

      Sorry, They’ve shot their wad. And it was a damp squib.

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    Steve of Cornubia

    So if the ban on outward travel for unvaccinated citizens is in accordance with our obligations under a treaty, not specifically because of Covid, does that mean the ban will be permanent?

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    Eng_Ian

    It’s well past time to remove ourselves from this and many other pieces of international blackmail.

    If this was based on reviewed and rigorously tested theories and data then at least we could see the logic, we could even review the data. Unfortunately this is just a lie, a really big lie. As noted above and in many publications, the virus is equally carried and spread by the vaccinated. If the unvaccinated can’t travel, on this lie, then what’s next. No driving? No public transport? No work?

    End this farce.

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    Ian G

    When Taiwan tried to warn WHO at the end of 2019 that Covid was human-to-human transmissible, WHO refused to investigate the claims because it didn’t recognise Taiwan. It took to the middle of Jan before China ‘fessed up and then it labelled it an epidemic only. In late Jan, 20 they finally declared it a pandemic. Remember when Aus and US banned people coming from Wuhan and later China. They were labelled racists and xenophobes. But by then the horse had bolted because of China’s covering up of the virus’s severity.
    WHO is a failed organisation that is politically motivated and not world-health motivated. Dr Tedros Adhanom Ghebreyesus, head of WHO, is from Ethiopia which was in debt to China at the time. One wonders.

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      GlenM

      Thanks for that.

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      Kevin Kilty

      I can’t say I was ever a fan of Abbott and Costello, but that routine is pure comedic genius. The more Abbott tries to explain who is on first base, the more agitated Costello becomes.

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        Hanrahan

        I can’t say I was ever a fan of Abbott and Costello,

        Nor I. I certainly don’t need them as a pointless running joke.

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    Fuel Filter

    FYI. I’m not gonna post quotes.

    But everyone here should read it. All of it. Has everything to do with what Jo has posted.

    https://dailyexpose.uk/2022/04/05/official-gov-data-triple-vaccinated-acquired-immunodeficiency/

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      Honk R Smith

      Looks like trust in ‘science’ may be somewhat misplaced.
      (Sorry, slight sarc, gallows humor, definitely not funny.)
      Time for construction yet?
      Demand will be high.

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      PeterPetrum

      Yes, I have seen those figures before, recently. Very concerning. No way I will be getting a fourth injection, though I am having real trouble convincing my wife of the problems associated with this issue.

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      David Maddison

      I am interested to know if the immune dysfunction applies only to covid or other aspects of the immune system as well.

      I have heard many anecdotal reports of an increase in cancer as well, and not just due to the fact that people haven’t seen doctors for two years. There are many reported cases of relapse.

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      RobB

      The Daily Expose analyses don’t take into account how many of the “unvaccinated” have acquired immunity though natural infection. Since we know natural infection gives far superior immunity than vaccine induced “immunity”, the results could be skewed to make it look as though the vaccinated have an acquired immune deficiency relative to the unvaccinated. But it could well be that all they are really comparing is essentially naturally acquired immunity to vaccine induced immunity. Its not a good look for the vaccines but it may not be as bad as it seems.

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    philemon

    You have to wonder, do The WHO officials fear omicron, aka the common cold, for some special reason?

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    Honk R Smith

    “No one in their wildest mind can pretend it’s about your health anymore”*

    Then, whatever could it possibly be about?
    It’s time …
    embrace the tin.

    (*BTW, it never was about health.)

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    philemon

    Actually, there is a perspective in history that does consider walls to be more about keeping people in.

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      philemon

      Never about health, of course. It was always about slave labor, the corvée, confiscating food… It’s depressing.

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      Robert Swan

      consider walls to be more about keeping people in

      Depends how you define “in”. I keep getting reminded of one of the Hitchhiker’s Guide books where there was a solitary house with a large security fence and a sign facing “inwards” from the gate. It warned something like Lunatic Asylum. Keep Out. A sign like that just inside the front door, above the telly and stuck to the computer screen might bring Douglas Adams’s idea up to date.

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    Meep

    Remember Boutros Boutros Galli? This is Tedros Tedros Folly. What is it with these Egyptians?

    Teddy thinks the old Pharoah was a piker, responsible for only 10 plagues back in the day.

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    Coronavirus outbreak on a 100% jabbed Cruise Ship………………….LOL

    https://www.armstrongeconomics.com/international-news/vaccine/covid-outbreak-on-100-vaccinated-cruise-ship/

    Wot’ a larf’…………………

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    Quite sickening, as there are no other countries doing this. The unvaxxed share with North Koreans being banned from leaving their country.

    There is no justification whatsoever. Other countries are quite happy to take unvaxxed Australians, so the CMOs fatuously and unsupported assertions are beyond ridiculous and are plain evil. I cannot see overseas clients and cannot see my brother and his family in the UK, and he has had serious health issues and I would have loved to be there to support him…

    Gerard is himself unvaxxed and has been a fantastic advocate for us.

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    OldOzzie

    Meanwhile in America – Why Are So Many Democrats Coming Down With COVID?

    My colleague Matt Margolis covered the news that Vice President Kamala Harris’s communications director tested positive for COVID after attending a bill-signing ceremony. And PJ Media’s Cameron Arcand reports that Speaker of the House Nancy Pelosi also tested positive after attending the same event.

    But the real super-spreader event occurred on Saturday night at the annual Gridiron Dinner as more than a dozen politicians and media types have all reported contracting the coronavirus.

    Among them: Reps. Adam Schiff (D-Calif.) and Joaquin Castro (D-Texas.); Commerce Secretary Gina Raimondo; and Attorney General Merrick Garland.

    Washington, D.C., Mayor Muriel Bowser announced she tested positive. Also testing positive: Connecticut Governor Ned Lamont; Rochester, N.Y., Mayor Malik Evans; Detroit Mayor Mike Duggan; Austin Mayor Steve Adler; and Arizona Democrat Rep. Tom O’Halleran.

    Are Republicans suddenly — dare I say it — immune?

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      David Maddison

      Are Republicans suddenly — dare I say it — immune?

      I bet the proportion of triple, quadruple (and more) injected DemocRATs is way higher than the proportion of multiple-injected Republicans.

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      GreatAuntJanet

      Yeah, but none of them have carked it, have they?

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    OldOzzie

    What if Things Don’t Go Back to Normal?

    One of the most frequently asked questions in these uncertain times, often uttered without the expectation of a definite answer, is “what’s going to happen next?” The honest answer is no one really knows. The failure of zero Covid, the Afghan collapse before the Taliban, the unexpected energy dependency of Europe on Russian gas, and the stubborn failure of Ukraine to collapse before the Putin blitz caught the experts by surprise and shows all too clearly the limits of prediction. Gone for now is the touching belief the policymakers had in models. For a time, due to the impressive increase in computing power, confidence in models became so great that predictions were treated as facts (‘trust the science’), forming the actual basis for government policy, in effect overconfidently moving reality to somewhere in virtual reality.

    – Probable
    – Possible
    – The Imponderables
    4. The emergence of a virulent and lethal Covid mutation; and/or
    5. Something no one has thought of

    By this metric, Washington’s record of adaptation to reality is not encouraging. The Beltway is a place where bad ideas live on forever like dinosaurs preserved from extinction. Giant beasts like open borders, the Israeli two-state solution, and the Iran nuclear deal still roam its fields and nobody can kill them off. It’s a place where nonsense reproduces and common sense is driven to extinction.

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      Steve of Cornubia

      “Giant beasts like open borders … ”

      Kinda. They want national borders to work rather like membranes, in that they are ‘selectively pervious’. They permit passage only to those approved by the elites. Hence the encouragement of undocumented, illegal immigrants while disallowing the movement of unvaccinated citizens.

      Basically, borders now serve only to advance the NWO agenda.

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    What an idiot. You are not protecting the World if Diplomats, “Pollies” and others can come and go as they please.

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      Annie

      Scott Morrison blandly states that Australia hasn’t mandated the vaxxes. If the manipulation and coercion to get the shots or be prevented from travelling isn’t effectively a mandate, what are they?

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        Yonniestone.

        Well my wife and I were going to celebrate my sisters and nephews birthdays tomorrow night at a restaurant but have had to pull out because they require customers to show their “vax status”, since we both don’t qualify as vaxxed we’re not allowed in.

        Anyone that says this rubbish isn’t pushed as mandatory is a liar, even though you can argue with the business that a mandate is not a law or they are breaking,
        – Privacy act 1998 section 94H
        – Nuremberg code Article 1,6
        – Biosecurity act 2015 s95
        – Aus Constitution Act 1900 s51, s5, s109
        – Disabillty Discrimination act 1992 sec 4,6.

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          Yonnie, but I think it’s important to let businesses know they lost customers. Even if the business can’t change the rules directly, they can protest too. They need to know the price of these ridiculous laws. So accept these invitations (hey they might change the law in time) and then if they don’t, cancel them in protest. Be considerate and give businesses enough warning.

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          Hanrahan

          Yonnie, Alzheimers is like rust, it never sleeps and never reverses. I had hoped the covid hysteria would die before the inevitable happened and I could no longer cope with my Lady at home.

          Well that time is near and I cannot even TALK to a home to make arrangements without us both being up to date. Seriously, I have NFI how much cash I will need to front to get a bed or what sort of waiting list there is.

          Tell me how it isn’t mandated.

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            Annie

            That’s a dreadful situation for you Hanrahan.

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            Yonniestone.

            I’m so sorry and saddened for your position Hanrahan, we could talk laws and constitutions all day but nothing can change the blind or selfish actions of others that fail in humanity towards others and affect you in the now, this another evil aspect of these vaccines gene therapy that when someone in dire help needs to enter what was once a good flowing health system they are forced to participate in the experimental trial.

            As Annie asked is there an assisted living service helping you out?, my wife’s Mother is going through this with her husband also, I am truly sorry you both have to suffer needlessly from this insanity, I can only give prayers and hope for your success in this time.

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    Tel

    Remember February 2, 2020? That’s when the WHO could have saved millions of lives and told the world to turn off the flights and keep the Wuhan Flu in Wuhan. Instead Tedros, the former belt-n-road Foreign Minister of Ethiopia, told the world ridiculous fictions and Chief Health Officers believed him.

    It was around about that time I realized we are facing outright sabotage. Not only did they encourage open borders, but soon afterwards they also went for the Chinese “zero covid” strategy and governments around the world started locking down cities in unison … even closing small shops and hairdressers while keeping the international airports open! I know because I live under a flight path and the jets were flying in and out every evening. This strategy is massively failing in China and they are using it to destroy their own people. They can barely keep their cities operating with the basic essentials right now.

    We are facing worldwide food shortages … entirely deliberate and man made … which no doubt will be blamed on Climate Change or something ridiculous like that. The shortage of fertilizer was caused by high gas prices which in turn were caused by intentional government shutdown of much of the gas production.

    They screwed up global shipping, partly with additional environmental regulations (forcing them to use diesel in 2020, and stupid mixed fuels based on animal fat) and partly with covid regulations (crews get stuck on the ship for many months at a time and end up overtired). Then California started also imposing restrictions on trucks, and of course the dumbarse vax mandates, which do nothing other than disrupt the transport industry.

    The war in Ukraine could have easily been avoided … Russia repeatedly requested that Ukraine simply not install NATO medium range missile launchers, and stop the persecution of Russian-speaking Ukrainians in the East. The NATO generals wanted this war, because it gives their lives a purpose and a bigger budget. Putin probably also benefits by securing his own position of power and giving him a pretext for internal repression.

    The US military brass have done their best to undermine morale, get rid of anyone capable of critical thought, and discourage new enlistments. Maybe in the big picture that could turn out a good thing if it genuinely reduces the defense spending, but in the short term it’s very destabilizing and it might be the first step towards martial law in the USA.

    Central banks across the world indulged in massive money printing, and now we have the obvious consequence which is terrible price inflation and they just come up with excuses, tell people “Look over there!” This is essentially a form of looting, because whoever gets to print the money also has a huge advantage over everyone else forced to accept the freshly printed money. In the long run it’s also economic sabotage and as destruction of fiat currencies. We are living through something very close to the Weimar Republic but this time around people should know better. You’d think they would know better … except when you talk to most people about this, they actually know nothing.

    Now we have fires breaking out: a factory in Melbourne, and then a power station in Puerto Rico. IMHO … the organizations such as Tyre Extinguishers, and Extinction Rebellion are training grounds for more serious saboteurs. They find the radical people willing to do small acts of vandalism and then winnow out the real crazies and give them tools to go start dangerous fires. The real purpose is to make ordinary people afraid, and clamoring for bigger government and more restrictions. That was BLM’s modus operandi also: go around starting fires all around the place. There’s too much similarity in the behavior of these groups for it to be random chance.

    I predict we will have more fires breaking out, with the objective of general chaos and disruption.

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      MP

      I saw that one of the BLM founders is now a graduate of the WEF young global leaders, so good on her, first time she achieved anything in her short useless life.

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        With Bioweapons the only strategy is immediate and total zero covid. Just do it at the start. Stop the flights coming from China. If the whole world went Zero Covid in January 2020 the only borders that mattered would have been the ones with China. The rest of the world could have flown freely.

        Zero Covid, done well, meant almost no lockdowns at all, barely any masks, and lots of dancing and singing in Western Australia. The crimes here only started after Gladys and Scott stupidly let the virus in, through incompetent border control, then they demanded to infect the nation. Once NSW was too far gone the tyrants had the excuse to force vaccines and lock every one up.

        No virus = No lockdown.
        No virus = No mandates.

        The two things that stop bioweapons are 1. Borders. and 2 Anti-virals. These are the hills worth dying on.

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          Honk R Smith

          The hill you die on is the one you get chased to.
          Because you didn’t fight sooner.

          (Learnt while sitting on my Pappy’s knee.)

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            True. But better than dying on a hill that’s irrelevant, and giving advice about things no one can change…

            So let’s think forward. When the next bioweapon comes, what will we wish we fought for now. 1. Borders. 2 Anti-virals. 3. Crooked Elections. 4. Fake Media (not necessarily is that order).

            Come join me on one of those hills…

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              Honk R Smith

              Being very serious, which is against my type.
              I think maybe the zombies are already in the wire.
              We find ourselves having to fight where we stand.
              Must of us following the climate debate could see this coming, but our politeness and faith in reason caused us to not recognize the seriousness of the threat.
              Each Australian is having to fight where they stand by refusing the vax.
              A solitary decision and a choice that will result in being un-personed, and as this post shows, continentally imprisoned..
              Not quite as bad here in the US, but I’m self employed, barely, at least until the next edict.
              Organized resistance is being interdicted by technocrat allies of the adversary.
              Elon may be the Prestor John, riding in to save us.
              It’s going to take a while though.
              To me, the hill is a warm fuzzy.
              As Krishna said, “None is more blessed than the warrior for whom the fight has come not of his own action.”

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              John R T

              Deal-in this Guinea-man, in Central Virginia.

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    OldOzzie

    ‘Not Predicting A Real Overhaul’: After Months Of Controversy Over COVID Guidance, CDC Announces A Revamp

    Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) Director Rochelle Walensky announced Monday that the agency is planning to evaluate the department’s “structures, systems, and processes” following months of unclear messaging during the COVID-19 pandemic.

    Short explained that the move could mean a couple different things. “[O]ne could take it as an indication that America really has moved on from COVID-19 and they’re looking to shift gears right now,” she said. “As things return to normal, it sounds like the CDC is taking the opportunity to look back over how it handled the pandemic and look for ways to improve.”

    The CDC’s revamp could also indicate that the CDC is aware of the issues the pandemic exposed within the agency. Short commented that “the agency’s reputation and credibility has taken a huge hit over the past couple years. They are very aware of that, so this move is also about shoring up trust and credibility with the American people.”

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    Ross

    As I said yesterday, it’s all about preventing vaccine hesitancy. It’s why no one talks about natural immunity. It’s why cheap early ant-virals are banned/ censored. It’s why vitamin D levels have never been discussed. But, it’s worse now because the Feds have put in provisional orders for 180 m vaccine doses and will help build a Moderna vaccine factory in Melbourne. Yet everyday more and more triple jabbed and probably now 4x jabbed people are still contracting COVID. In Victoria, we have 19 people in ICU, which is possibly normal figures for this time of year anyway, yet yesterday Dan ( or is it Daniel?) invoked another 3 months of SOE.

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    John R T

    Please,remind me how often must I add lime to my pond? Acid rain and forest death, you know!

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    Ross

    Regarding the Federal CHO’s. I think they are largely responsible for our crazy COVID response of the last 2 years. This is just another example. During those early National Cabinet meetings (proceedings never revealed) in 2020, I think Kelly or Murphy advised the meeting that Australia’s best chance was to isolate from the rest of the world. That because of our advantage of being an island state/continent the best policy was to adopt COVID zero. Then wait it out until the vaccines arrived. Then let the states interpret that policy how they saw fit. Which is why some states had harsher COVID policies but were very rarely criticised by the feds. Its why they went so hard on banning or censoring IVM and HCG, with the aid of the TGA. Even though in a press conference, Murphy admitted taking HCQ himself once for malaria prevention in PNG. Nick Coatsworth was once part of that team, but has since proclaimed more sensible anti COVID views. A lot of people have blamed Morrison, but in fact he was just getting poor advice.

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      GreatAuntJanet

      Qld has now unbanned HCQ.

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      Tel

      They already had the Ruby Princess dumping a cruise ship full of infected passengers into the middle of the largest city in Australia … before they decided, “Hey by declaring Zero COVID it will magically go away!”

      There were Asians going in and out of Sydney and Brisbane for Chinese New Year celebrations to everywhere from Singapore to Shanghai … as there are every year. We also had students coming and going, just like every year.

      No way in the world was COVID not already here long before the official border closures. We know now that the virus goes back at least to October 2019 in Wuhan, and the Australian hotel quarantine started 28 March 2020 (five months later). Even then, the Australian borders were never “closed” because many people got dispensation to simply go home and wait two weeks (hey we trust you) … and it was only in November 2020 they bothered to start tightening up on the special dispensations. This was closing the barn door so long after the horse had already bolted it was just unbelievable.

      Zero Covid was at best an aspirational target, it was never achieved in Australia, nor in any country.

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        Tel

        If anyone wants further proof of the ineffectiveness of lockdowns, you can easily compare Victoria (strictest and longest lockdown in the world) vs NSW (some lockdowns).

        Total deaths in Victoria (as of 9 April 2022) = 2792
        https://covidbaseau.com/vic/#line5

        Total deaths in New South Wales (as of 9 April 2022) = 2522
        https://covidbaseau.com/nsw/#line5

        New South Wales has a larger population, and more high density housing, but achieved fewer total deaths. The outcome indicates that harsh lockdowns were worse than useless.

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          If anyone wants proof that lockdowns without hard borders and antivirals are not lockdowns, look at NSW and Victoria.

          The only real Quarantine in the 2000 year old meaning of the term includes a hard border.

          For evidence of the effectiveness of lockdowns, look at Western Australia. Booming economy, hardly any restrictions, freedom in every way for most of the first 21 months of the pandemic. The only restriction was that we were unable to travel to countries or states that had incompetent borders.

          Total deaths in Western Australia = 80.

          The evidence shows Covid Zero was a wild success when done properly. What NSW and Vic did was appalling, but make no mistake, the problem wasn’t Covid Zero, it was the leaky borders, the banning of ivermectin, and the forced vaccines that killed businesses and people.

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    Alexy Scherbakoff

    I prefer the term ‘unsullied’ to ‘unvaccinated’.

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      b.nice

      or “untainted”

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      My claim is that I am one of the original pure bred homo sapiens not a genetically modified sub-species as apparently 95% of those around me are. It looks as though the gene therapy has severely degraded their intellect as they are already lining up for a fourth jab.

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    Steve of Cornubia

    What is the exit requirements under the treaty, whereby the ban on unvaxxed travel will cease? Surely this is a vital question? We have a right to know precisely how the treaty requires this ban, and under what conditions it will be lifted. Without this information, we can only assume it is a permanent ban and the unvaxxed are now prisoners in their own nation.

    I would also like to see who has so far been granted an exemption, and why. I have no doubt that the list will include quite a few wealthy types, along with sportspeople, celebrities and politicians.

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      Steve of Cornubia

      *What are the exit requirements*

      PLEASE, we need an ‘edit post’ function! I sumtimes gets me grammars muxed ip.

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        b.nice

        “I sumtimes gets me grammars muxed ip.”

        Are you a New Zealander ? 😉

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        Forrest Gardener

        Still got two grandmas? You are blessed.

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        MP

        Nope, edit functions are bad.
        G+ had that function and I watched a commenter change a stupid comment after it was pointed out by other commenters, the change made the repliers look stupid.

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          Forrest Gardener

          There is that. Perhaps a more sophisticated edit function where the original comment remains available. Sort of like the wiki software does it.

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            b.nice

            Edit function that works for a short time only, like on WUWT ?

            Although we do have the “preview” button below, its amazing how often you can miss something that needs correcting, even using that.

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    Mullumhillbilly

    And they shall not buy nor sell nor leave their country, unless they have the Mark of the Boost.

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    STJOHNOFGRAFTON

    The WHO is showing signs of senescence with its illogical travel rules. Historical data from many countries including Australia show that the anti-covid jabs are now useless in stopping spread of the disease. These jabs have become irrelevant. Therefore, WHO sponsored, travel restrictions are pointless as a reason for protecting international and domestic health.

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      The evidence is totally clear. The vaxxes promote infection with the greater the no of jabs the greater the infections and transmissions.

      You cannot make this up.

      The vaxxes are a complete and utter failure. The CMO is a total idiot, if he was acting rationally he would be restricting the vaxxed. But no, he uses some ridiculous international treaty to hide behind when medically he has no leg to stand on.

      this covid crisis has exposed that our bureaucracy is quite simply dangerously incompetent. With useless restrictions pushed hard and a dangerous and useless vaxx still being pushed. The evidence being offered on the vaxxes shows an increasing death rate the more they are used and an epidemic of heart issues happening. When we have many members of our population dead from these vaxxes then will the CMO and his cronies finally wake up or will the Pharma bribes still be having them crying out that the solution is more vaxxing…? Unbelieveable…

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        Mark Allinson

        “The vaxxes are a complete and utter failure”

        Depends on your perspective – yes, from a medical angle they are total failures, but from another point of view they are spectacularly successful.

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        PADRE

        I think is was Dietrich Bonhoeffer who said something like, “stupidity ia a geater sin than evil”. If we think of evil as that which works against the common good, then stupidity surely amplifies the evil, as does a willful denial of the truth of a matter. This is what we are facing on a massive scale on all manner of things.

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    David Maddison

    In fact US Military Data shows a frighteningly higher rate of vaccination injuries — a 300% to 1000% increase medical billing items related to miscarriage, cancer, neurological conditions, fertility problems and pulmonary embolisms.

    And, you’d think the US Military would be among the youngest and fittest of the population and selected for being excellent physical specimens, so how much worse for older and less fit?

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    David Maddison

    Here are some details of the Federal Court case in which in which Australia’s status as a penal colony was upheld.

    https://www.hrlc.org.au/human-rights-case-summaries/2021/9/30/federal-court-of-australia-upholds-international-travel-ban-during-covid-19-pandemic

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      Annie

      Behind a wall as I have an ad blocker.

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        Thanks David. Update added:
        UPDATE: Other countries that ban citizens from leaving include North Korea, China, Saudi Arabia, Laos, Malaysia, Kuwait, and Brunei. But all of those were either already in place before the pandemic or are temporary. Australia was the only nation in the world to ban all citizens from leaving as a blanket rule from March 2020.  Canada started banning unvaccinated travellers from planes and trains in November 2021. But “…unvaccinated Canadians can still fly out of Canada on private planes”. No mandate for billionaires then? h/t David M.

        Un vaccinated Canadians can theoretically drive out of Canada, except that the US now prevents them from entering.

        https://ici.radio-canada.ca/rci/en/news/1857921/why-some-unvaccinated-canadian-travellers-are-still-able-to-board-a-plane

        Kerri Froc, a constitutional law expert, said Canadians’ right of entry is enshrined in our Charter of Rights and Freedoms.

        You have the right to come into Canada if you’re a citizen because [the charter] is basically trying to not have a situation where someone is stateless, said Froc, an associate law professor at the University of New Brunswick in Fredericton.

        It’s a very fundamental human right.

        However, she said the government can, within reason, make returning home more difficult for unvaccinated travellers. Currently, those travellers face stricter entry requirements: they must (new window) take a COVID-19 test upon arrival, self-isolate for 14 days, and take a second test while in quarantine.

        Between Nov. 28 and Jan. 8, 109,290 government-funded arrival tests were completed on partially or unvaccinated air passengers entering Canada, according to the latest government data (new window). That total includes children over the age of four and foreign nationals.

        The charter also says that Canadians have the right to leave Canada.

        On Wednesday, the Justice Centre for Constitutional Freedoms filed a lawsuit in Federal Court (new window), arguing Canada’s vaccine requirement for air passengers is unconstitutional because, in part, it hinders mobility rights.

        It is profoundly disturbing that a marginalized group in Canada — the unvaccinated — are essentially prohibited from leaving the country, said Keith Wilson, lead counsel for the legal challenge, in a statement .

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    David Maddison

    Those that think SloMo is such a wonderful PM, how can he be if he remains silent on this matter?

    This is 100% a Federal issue, unlike other areas of covid mismanagement.

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      Annie

      How is it logical to talk of allowing unvaxxed tourists in but not unvaxxed citizens out?

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        MP

        Its a trap, we are not letting unvaxxed tourists out, we’re keeping them for fruit picking.

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        MP

        What exit restrictions do other countries similar to Australia have in place?
        Among its peers in the Western world, Australia is unique in banning its residents from leaving the country.

        New Zealand, which has adopted a very similar strategy to Australia in dealing with COVID-19, has not banned its citizens from travelling overseas. It just strongly discourages it.

        Although it too discourages non-essential travel, Canada does not ban people from exiting the country either. Neither does Singapore, although the Singaporean government won’t cover the medical expenses of nationals who return home with COVID-19.

        For a few months earlier this year, the UK government did impose a ban on non-essential travel out of the UK. But anyone with an urgent reason to travel simply had to fill out a form. This restriction was removed earlier this month.

        Why is Australia’s outbound travel ban still in place?
        As The Sydney Morning Herald’s Caitlin Fitzsimmons wrote in a recent opinion piece, there is no direct risk to Australia’s public health when people leave. The only risk to Australia is from people returning from overseas with coronavirus.

        The Australian government has defended its outbound travel ban as necessary to reduce the burden on Australia’s health system and hotel quarantine. The government is also concerned about letting more residents travel overseas while tens of thousands of Australians still remain stuck overseas, unable to get a flight home due to the restrictive inbound arrival caps.

        The whole article is a constant, moving, advertising bill board. Not worth the effort Annie.

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      Ross

      The state premiers have copped most of the blame for the local COVID policies- and some of that criticism is fair. But, it was the feds who set the scene. Take hotel quarantine for example. We are a population of just 25 million. Which brainiac thought that having different hotel quarantine setups in each state was a good idea? Should have been only 1 entry point with 1 standard level of conditions. In the US, a population of 330 m, they have only 2 major international entry points. (apart from the Mexican border!!). The system was bound to fail.

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        Tel

        There are major airports and sea ports in most capital cities, therefore the logistics are easier if you have a quarantine station somewhere close to those ports.

        The real problem is that COVID easily spreads through the air … and none of the hotels were designed to isolate airflow to each room … therefore they were not properly functioning as quarantine. Besides that, the overall security and management of these facilities was haphazard at best.

        One of the many blunders along the way was insistence that coronavirus would not spread as an aerosol and only got carried by big droplets and on people’s hands. Although it’s a fine thing to wash your hands now and then, it has no effect on respiratory virus transmission, and this was already well documented in the literature at the time but Australia dumbly followed the WHO and took almost a year to figure it out.

        https://powerhour.alexepstein.com/2020/05/07/safer-outside-alex-epstein-interviews-daniil-gorbatenko/

        That’s from May 2020 which was quite early in the whole piece, but Daniil Gorbatenko did no experiments with his own hands … everything he reads to you in that podcast was from experiments that had been done years earlier. Why is it that an ordinary economist can be bothered actually reading the literature, while the well paid experts lording it over everyone can’t get their act together?

        Well … it’s not really about health, is it? As long as you can be seen “doing something” doesn’t matter whether what you do actually works … shout at anyone who disagrees, then shout some more, but never pay attention to reality.

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      Faye

      I wouldn’t trust ScoMo as far as I could throw him.

      After Frydenberg’s Budget (next day?) a journalist asked ScoMo about the mRNA vaccine facility development to be built in Victoria?

      After his first eighty words, ScoMo said:

      “The purpose of this is not just to address the, the challenges that we have with COVID-19, because the COVID-19 pandemic is raging and it will continue to rage. Not just now, but it could be for years to come.”

      (My italics) This IS another Build Back Better brainwash manoeuvre to keep the population under control either by fines, jail, adverse reactions or death. There will be no let-up of control by COVID and Climate Change.

      As I said I wouldn’t trust him as far as I could throw him. Too many hidden surprises makes me think he is one of them.

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    MP

    From page 9 of the PDF,
    AUSTRALIA’S NATIONAL ACTION PLAN
    FOR HEALTH SECURITY
    2019-2023 (funny how those dates turned out, coincidence right)
    Human Rights Principles: NAPHS activities will be consistent with the IHR
    with regard to protecting the human rights of all persons and travellers. Policies
    and programs will be non-discriminatory and equitable.

    25 months of failing to follow their own policy.

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    Geoff Sherrington

    Around the start of 2020, I was alarmed when WHO and China went public saying the new contagious pneumonia was not spread through the air, so certain consequential actions like travel were safe. My immediate thought was “How could they possibly know this?” The next was “Are they aware of the consequences of being wrong/”
    The more time passes, the more this looks like an intentional form of warfare. The problem is, who is conducting it? Geoff S

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    David Maddison

    These (below link) are the International Health Regulations of the WHO, a rather obscure document, that only committed anti-Australian globalists would even know exists, let alone enforce as a weapon to the detriment of Australians.

    https://www.who.int/publications/i/item/9789241580496

    Few other governments bothered with it.

    And it is only enforce in Australia due to an unelected bureaucrat.

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    David Maddison

    The obsession Australian public serpents and politicians have with “just following orders” is terrifying.

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    Dave of Gold Coast, Qld.

    I would dearly love to know who signed the agreement with WHO and why. Was it our two faced PM or was it our local WEF representative selling us out to the elites? You know, New World Order elites that is.

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    David Maddison

    Remember, Greg Hunt is the “Health” Minister and he is a student of Herr Klaus Schwab.

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    David Maddison

    Enforcing these UN WHO “orders” just because they are there is a huge cop-out for the government.

    Given the UN is a corrupt and immoral organisation with no moral authority, SloMo needs to be a real leader and say “to hell with the UN” as Donald Trump would have said.

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    OldOzzie

    German Parliament Rejects Vaccine Mandate

    Despite western media presentations of vaccine outlooks in what they frame as progressive Germany, the country actually has one of the lower vaccination rates in Europe. About 76% of Germans have one dose of vaccine compared to an average of 80% in France, Italy and Spain.

    German Chancellor Olaf Scholz stated earlier in the year, the only way forward through the COVID-19 pandemic was a national vaccine mandate.

    Anticipating limited support for the measure, Scholz’s tenuous coalition government constructed a law they thought would have widespread support. Those over 60-years of age would have a mandatory vaccination, and those 18 to 59 would have a mandatory conversation with their doctors about the vaccination.

    The members of parliament were told to follow their conscience as Scholz’s law was brought to the floor for a vote. The vaccine law failed to pass parliament as 378 members voted against it, 296 voted in favor. The legislative defeat has stunned the ruling German coalition.

    Apparently, the viewpoint of medical autonomy, freedom and individual liberty is still alive in Germany. If the reports of vaccine rates are accurate, 24% of German have rejected the vaccine completely, and now 55% of MP’s have rejected the government demand to make the vaccine mandatory.

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    Meanwhile in Canberra freedom lives https://t.co/tzGcGEt7q1

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      KP

      From one of the side Tweets- about having a balance of views in the media.

      “False Balance is false Journalism. Proportional balance is what is required, not equal time for loony minority views.”

      “No. What is needed is intellectual rigour. Balance is a fool’s errand.”

      Which is why we end up pure propaganda about Ukraine in the West.

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        b.nice

        “not equal time for loony minority views.””

        The far left loony minority get well above their share of balance.

        Many of the MSM are them.

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      Peter Fitzroy

      reminds me of stone days of years past (canberrians will understand the reference)

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    To my mind this is an example of the complete failure of the World Economic Forum’s One World Government (Communism). It is predicated on the idea that the one person sitting at the top of the heap has greater knowledge, wisdom, information , etc. than all of those below.
    The fact is that everyone is different with different attributes and capabilities. Hence free and open exchange and experimentation is needed to make progress to a solution to each perceived problem not a Therapeutic Goods Administration telling us that there is only one way, their way. At no time has the vast pool of experience and knowledge of our medical professionals been evaluated. Consequently respect for our GPs and specialists will probably fall to an all-time low as the public come to realize that the medical profession, the politicians and the media have failed in their duty to provide the facts and act accordingly.

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      Let me get this straight

      The forum, which is actually one communist at the top and not a forum, caused the Australian government to have this policy and thereby failed.

      Also, because people are different the TGA can’t tell anyone things and the medical profession suffers from public trust issues.

      I’ll alert the press.

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    RoHa

    “… if the Australian government was set up as a subsidiary wing of Pfizer and Moderna, they could hardly have done more to lift profits…”

    Where do you get the “if” from? The Australian government is obviously a subsidiary wing of the US elite. When the US power players snap their fingers, the Australian government (and media) grovel. And Pfizer and Moderna are members of that elite.

    We need independence from the USA.

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    Keith Kennelly

    In the 1930’s Socialist Germany, dominated by the NAZI regime, the vast majority of Germans supported the punishment of civilians who rejected the opinion of the majority.

    Nazi’s decreed:
    1. Earlier marriage must be made possible by providing new housing facilities and such financial help as may be needed.

    2. Education must train the body as well as the mind.

    3. Medical treatment must be made available to all classes; hopeless incurables must be remorselessly sterilized

    4. Public morals must be taken in hand and all entertainments, placards, and advertisements made clean.

    5. City life must be broken up by inducing slum dwellers to return to the land.

    An ominous sign was:

    ‘The significant thing about the Aryan, is his idealism, his willingness to sacrifice himself for the common good.’ Adolf Hitler,

    This was the basis Germany’s nationalist programme. It was supported by the majority.

    This led to Hitler’s belief that opponents of this programme must be destroyed … punished.

    That was the basis of the fascist state.

    Today, while not yet as extreme, that is what has happened with covid and led to the persecution of unvaccinated Australians by the Federal and State Governments.

    Their behaviour of punishing people, with minority opinion, is similar to the behaviour of the fascists.

    The seed has germinated, among ‘the elites’ and these behaviours will repeat … and become more extreme.

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    Please reply here to Peter Fitzroy #1.1. here because what he wrote was a logical fallacy and off topic. Thanks.

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      Gee Aye
      April 8, 2022 at 11:12 am · Reply · Edit
      Neither CSIRO or its predecessor (CSIRO did not exist in 1935) nor any federal science organisation released the toads.

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      David Maddison
      April 8, 2022 at 12:25 pm ·
      The roads were not released by CSIRO but another government department, the Queensland Bureau of Sugar Experiment Stations (BSES), specifically by an entomologist by the name of Reginald Mungomery.

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      Gee Aye
      April 8, 2022 at 1:04 pm ·
      correct. Without any sort of testing before release.

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      Jo Nova
      April 8, 2022 at 3:00 pm ·
      Sounds a lot like vaccines then…

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      Gee Aye
      April 8, 2022 at 3:12 pm ·
      lmao

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        Honk R Smith

        Off topic?
        IPCC, WHO, Billy, Anthony, Justin, Dan, Jacinda, the new Little Corporal …
        Poor Boris, he seems to follow his hair, (wish I still had that problem) …
        seems to me all roads lead to Ro … I mean, Davos.

        Couple things,
        Is it not clear that the WHO, Billy, Anthony, (using first names in effort to avoid mod), where looking for a pandemic long before 2019.
        Geez, the gazzillionaire that preached population reduction, pivoted and went full tilt into vaxxing every human on the planet.

        Just like they forage desperately for ‘climate’ changes.
        Didn’t they even invent the brand name (formerly epidemics).
        Unassailable brand names are crucial, like ‘Climate Change’.

        A puzzle palace of crimes have been committed.
        One BIG ONE …
        If the alleged contagion (I still don’t know anyone labeled a ‘case’, that even went to a hospital, where panicked over treatment might kill you), it most likely came from the Wuhan Chocolate Factory.
        Chocolate research with bio weapon potential, funded by US government money, and performed by CCP scientists.
        ‘Splain that one to me.
        Something ain’t right.

        (Plus, Americans are dealing with a soft coup, orchestrated by the same characters that arranged the ‘Pandemic’ …
        if you ask me.
        Off topic?
        The Polaris of topics.
        Likely the very topic of this post.

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        another ian

        Re Cane toads

        Guy Hull in “The ferals that ate Australia” in the chapter “The Great Cane Toad Con Job” hands the primary blame to Arthur Bell of Qld’s Bureau of Sugar Experiment Stations

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    Cleaned up from #1.

    GlenM April 8, 2022 at 8:27 am · Are you saying that the WHO invented the smallpox vaccine?
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    Peter Fitzroy no
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    b.nice · Peter isn’t really saying anything…. he’s just blathering.
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    Strop · Peter, what’s the relevance of your WHO smallpox comment in application to David’s comment?
    David didn’t say the WHO fails 100% of the time. It appeared to me he was simply saying Australia fanatically follows UN decrees. Which is not a good thing for us to do as a default position.

    Each country needs to carefully consider their own circumstance and what’s best for their own citizens. That may mean not following UN initiatives from time to time and taking each one on merit. Not simply falling in to line with an organisation that has agendas that may be or are contradictory to our interests.
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    Peter Fitzroy · Strop – if we followed your advice, we would still have smallpox.
    As to the blind following comment, Australia was one of the founding members, but of course, you would hate the fact that it was Doc Evatt, who as a leftist is an anathema to everyone on this site
    So since Australia had a role in the creation, and sees the UN as providing a stage where the Australian view can be heard, how is that blindly following?
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    b.nice
    · Totally irrelevant… as usual.
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    # Peter Fitzroy. Snipped.
    so according to your philosophy, we should not interfere in the normal processes in the environment due to unintended consequences, and the success of the smallpox eradication was a fluke.

    tis a very dark green position you hold.

    I’m guessing that you are a vegan, wear homespun, walk everywhere, use the internet in a library (no power at your place) etc


    b.nice · “Strop – if we followed your advice, we would still have smallpox.”
    What a weird imagination you have !!
    Strop says we shouldn’t follow blindly, and look at things on their merits..
    … and you come up with a completely irrelevant non-sequester of totally unrelated nonsense.
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    #Peter Fitzroy · “It appeared to me he was simply saying Australia fanatically follows UN decrees. Which is not a good thing for us to do as a default position.”
    That is the comment
    my response:
    “Australia was one of the founding members, but of course, you would hate the fact that it was Doc Evatt, who as a leftist is an anathema to everyone on this site
    So since Australia had a role in the creation, and sees the UN as providing a stage where the Australian view can be heard,”
    I know a bot can not apologise, just like it can not follow a logical chain, even when the chain is only 2 comments deep.

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    #b.nice · So your response was nothing to do with what was said… you rambled on about nothing to do with the comment. A totally illogical response. as usual.. off on a total tangent of irrelevance..
    Sad you really think Australia should just do what the WHO says, without thinking..
    We can be heard… so long as we agree to do what we are told. Is that what you are saying ?
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    # Strop ·Sure Peter. The fact that I advocate that we shouldn’t by default follow the UN does leave the door open for a UN vaccination program to be circumvented by a nation or nations not wanting to impose that program on its citizens. But my advice isn’t to never follow the UN so that also means that a vaccination program like smallpox could still be achieved. You’re wrong to assert that my advice means we would still have smallpox.

    …. Australia had a role in the creation, and sees the UN as providing a stage where the Australian view can be heard

    The fact that our view is to be heard by the UN implies our view might be different to other nations’ views and therefore any UN decision might be contrary to our view. Hence why we need to consider each UN direction on its merits.

    Did you support the extended lockdowns like we had in Vic & NSW Peter? If so, you went against the UN’s recommendation. Careful. You could create a smallpox revival with such thoughts 😉
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    #David Maddison · Doc Evatt, who as a leftist is an anathema to everyone on this site
    Doc Evatt was a strong supporter of the White Australia Policy, Peter. I guess you support that then?

    Also, Evatt may have helped found the UN back in the day, but everyone regardless of political persuasion, thought it was a good idea after the horrors of WW2. It had noble intent before becoming dominated by some of the most vile leaders of the most vile nations that ever existed.
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    # b.nice · Do you really think that Australia should follow the WHO dictates regardless?
    That is the question.
    If you say, “No”, you are agreeing with Strop and myself.
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    # b.nice m · “some of the most vile leaders of the most vile nations that ever existed”
    Which Peter worships and says we should obey without question.
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    #b.nice · Auto spell check? I’m sure I typed “non-sequitur”
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    # Ronin A · In the UNs’ original guise, it was created to prevent a rerun of world wars, sadly , marxists took it over in the intervening years.
    It is now unrecognisable from its original form.
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    #beth+the+serf · The U.N. you’ve come a long way, baby. https://beththeserf.wordpress.com/2018/11/01/55th-edition-serf-under_ground-journal/
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    #b.nice · ” it was created to prevent a rerun of world wars”
    Now, a near reversal of that role !

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    Totally wrong. Take Singapore for example. You can transit the airport unhindered and go on to another destination based totally on the requirements of that destination. That’s how Australia should operate.

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    JB

    Australia becomes a penal colony again!

    Moderna, DARPA, and the NIAID were the primary engineers of SARS-CoV-2. The reverse complement of a crucial bit of the viral genome (the furin cleavage site) has been found in 5 Moderna patent applications (that have all been granted), going back to 2013. (Tony Fauci’s agency, the NIAID, is co-owner of the Moderna vaccine.)

    A whistleblower has come forward asserting that Peter Daszak of EcoHealth Alliance, who I think worked to set up the Chinese as patsies, was working with the CIA.

    And another whistleblower, Brook Jackson, has come forward, testifying to how shoddy and sloppily the Pfizer vaccine clinical trials were run. She expected the FDA to jump on board her whistleblower lawsuit. Instead, they tried to bury the trial data for 75 years. The FDA was successfully sued by Aaron Siri’s law firm and is being forced to release the apparently highly problematic trial data.

    Anybody who takes these vaccines is an idiot.

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    RickWill

    The restriction on the unvaccinated must surely be counter to the UN Universal Declaration of Human Rights.
    https://www.un.org/sites/un2.un.org/files/udhr.pdf

    Article 13 is quite clear:

    Article 13
    1. Everyone has the right to freedom of movement and residence within the borders of each State.
    2. Everyone has the right to leave any country, including his own, and to return to his country.

    I am not clear on the legal standing of this document in Australia. However it was an Australian who chaired the drafting process and pledged Australia to follow the articles.

    I expect all the unvaccinated people who have been cowered and treated as outcasts would be able to mount a solid class action against the Australian and State governments for abuse of human rights.

    I would support crowd funding for such a case. There may be a law firm willing to take it on with a juicy settlement as the carrot.

    There should be a few politicians and public administrators in fear of losing their own freedom for the abuses of human rights over Covid.

    I doubt Clive Palmer will get enough support to change the situation. Maybe enough of the LNP can be convinced to put freedom on their agenda.

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    CHRIS

    Not surprising that WHO is in the spotlight, particularly in relation to its current President, who is a member of an Ethiopian terrorist group. Tedros Gebreyesus is nothing more than a terrorist and a supporter of genocide.

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      The tigre were noted to be a shadowy deceitful people in Evelyn Waugh’s books conceived during his journalistic forays there in the days when Mussolini was aggrandising Italy.

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    Ossqss

    Is it really about a Virus, a Vaccine, or is it really about crate training humans?

    Think about it! …—…

    https://i.ytimg.com/vi/4LB3GAW5Mz4/mqdefault.jpg

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    Mavraki

    we have elections this year both state and federal. If Australia is following other peoples laws why should I vote for Australian politicians who are in fact puppets

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    Dimsim

    Just noticed (are my eyes deceiving me?) that unvaxxed Australians won’t need exemption to travel from 18 April. https://www.homeaffairs.gov.au/covid19/unvaccinated-travellers/australian-citizens-and-pr/leaving-australia/exemption-process

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    Roy

    https://www.homeaffairs.gov.au/covid19/unvaccinated-travellers/australian-citizens-and-pr/leaving-australia/exemption-process
    Clearly uses the word “may” instead of “shall” from April 18th.
    Sounds like they’re promoting the fear while legally keeping their snotty noses clean.
    This needs to be tested en masse. Get out and travel, vaxxed or not!

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    Roy

    Despite Senator Rennick’s great work, I think he missed a golden opportunity here and I, for one, will be following through with letters, calls and enails.
    Here’s the thing: The WHO state categorically that the vaccine does NOT stop transmission.
    Therefore Dr (of what?) Paul Kelly’s advice to the government is incompetent.
    Think about it and if you agree then cause some agitation. They have just stabbed themselves in the foot and we need to twist the knife.

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    Dimsim

    @Roy I agree that your scepticism is warranted. The date could be changed, or the “exemption” removed, with a casual flick of the pen at any time. The language is slightly murky too, as you point out. I’ll believe it when I see it.

    At the same time, let’s recognise that Senator Renwick’s effort on this issue (and maybe some others’ including Joanne’s article) may have yielded a little result here. I’m almost 100% certain that this 18 April sunset date on unvaccinated travel restrictions has been added to the homeaffairs page since I checked it out 5 days ago.

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    Dimsim

    @joanne if my most recent comment doesn’t make sense, maybe don’t publish it! I am still catching up a bit on this issue. After re-watching Senator Renwick’s video, I’m now confused as to when the extension till the 18th was announced, whether Kelly is saying the biosecurity act will kick in after the 18th to the same end, and when homeaffairs updated their webpage (maybe I missed the post-April 18 bullet point last time). Cheers, great website, just found it!

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    Spurwing Plover

    Now the Land Down Under knows what its like with a Despot and Dictator running their Nation into the ground just like Biden is doing to us

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