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China wants this war

The eye-opening video about Chinese people in Ukraine, who weren’t evacuated, and who were “permitted” by the CCP to be excited at the arrival of Putin’s tanks, even hanging out Chinese flags to welcome their Russian comrades until suddenly they realized that wasn’t such a good idea. The CCP Flags were hurriedly packed away and some went so far as to pretend to be Japanese… because some of the malevolent intent here is just so toxic and word was spreading.

The commentator here, SerpentZA (Winston Sterzel), did videos of what was happening in China that I also posted on during the earliest days of the Wuflu — literally Feb 2nd, and Feb 8th, 2020.

A South African who lives in China — he has unusual insight.

H/t David, and one other, sorry, I must find.

9.4 out of 10 based on 51 ratings

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    Ronin

    [Off topic]AD

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      Jojodogfacedboy

      Jo,
      How would this Economic Restructuring be?
      The ‘Great Reset’…
      Obviously they would want to eliminate all types of currency creation such as credit and other forms to get back to a currency backed by actual materials or gold which both China and Russia have accumulated vast quantities to do a future monetary exchange.
      We used to have gold reserves as the US Dollar used to be tied to a gold dollar standard.

      It could get very ugly as our politicians are used to blowing through massive amounts of spending with no thoughts on budgets.

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    PeterS

    Also, China has made this stern warning albeit somewhat inflated but still serious enough to be of major concern.

    China’s Message to the US: “Your Military will be Reduced Into Scrap Iron”

    The West better rethink their strategy to try and weaken Russia because if they don’;t it will backfire very badly…
    Stupidity of Sanctions

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      el+gordo

      Brinkmanship, talk is cheap but speaks volumes.

      ‘The decision by two China-backed development banks to halt “all activities” with Russia shows Beijing is treading a careful line on its close trading partner amid worldwide condemnation of the attack on Ukraine, analysts believe.

      ‘This comes after the announcements from the Asian Infrastructure Investment Bank (AIIB) and New Development Bank on Thursday sparked speculation on whether Beijing was altering its position on Russia amid growing international pressure.’ (SCMP)

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        farmerbraun

        How many banks does that leave, who are free to trade with Russia , and who are free to facilitate payments . The China Import-Export Corporation is a very powerful entity.
        So Fonterra , for example is free to virtue-signal that it will not sell to Russia ; trade with china continues as per our Free Trade Agreement.

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        Serge Wright

        The banking actions are part of Chinese strategic propaganda. It makes the west think they are opposing Russia’s action’s when the opposite is the case. Notice that only 2 banks are doing this. The remaining banks will fill the gap.

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    David Maddison

    Most of the world-wide chaos against the interests of the West and humanity in general can be directly traced to the Left’s coup d’état against President Trump. The West is now weak and leaderless and believes in nothing and will fight for nothing, unlike our enemies. Tyrants will do as they please.

    Upcoming:

    -China will invade Tawain.

    -China might release another bioweapon at the same time as the invasion.

    -Iran will announce that they have one or more nuclear weapons,

    -Europe will decline further due to increasing dependence on “green” wind and solar.

    -Australia will become increasingly vulnerable as we won’t be able to rely on the US for military support against China plus the usual government incompetence and indecision will mean we won’t get the badly-needed nuclear subs anytime soon or maybe not at all.

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      Forrest Gardener

      Chaos is undeniable and apparently intentional. I think President Trump was more a bump in the road and an excuse for evil doers to play their games.

      Ok. Out with the crystal ball…
      China will declare sovereignty over Taiwan but will not fire a shot.
      China will release a steady stream of bioweapons but not until they have a cure they can use for ransom.
      Iran will continue their bat shot crazy antics and join the mutually assured destruction club.
      Europe will completely reverse course on unreliable energy with their citizenry suffering greatly in the transition to reliable power.
      Australia will hear a loud popping sound as governments around the nation disappear up their collective fundamental orifices.

      And the world’s population will clamour for their governments to save them from the hobgoblins.

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        b.nice

        “China will release a steady stream of bioweapons but not until they have a cure they can use for ransom.”

        How much is China linked to “Big Pharma” ?

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      Kippax

      I just wonder whether China is going to pause it’s invasion plans until they can get rid of their US Treasury Bonds.
      After all, if the US can just seize Russian ones, Chinese probably aren’t too happy about keeping them there.

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        Forrest Gardener

        My guess is that China will give the US financial system a very good shake to see what benefits it might provide either way. A bit like shaking the apple tree to see what falls out.

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      el+gordo

      China will not invade Taiwan and won’t be releasing new bioweapons because it would be untenable.

      Putin is the old world order, while Xi is a futurist planning the new world order.

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        farmerbraun

        “Putin is the old world order,”

        Which Old World order are you referring to there?

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          el+gordo

          He is still in the 20th century and, because he has delusions of grandeur, Putin wants to be Tzar and regain lost territory.

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            farmerbraun

            So when he turns around and marches out of Ukraine , having disposed of the nazis , what will his next move be , do you think?

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              el+gordo

              If Putin quit and pulls the troops out he could be in trouble, domestically, but that probably won’t happen.

              The West still thinks of China and Russia as communists, which need to be restrained. The people of the free world should be informed that Putin and Xi are right wing dictators, like Mussolini and Hitler.

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                RobB

                Where have you been these last two years? Where exactly is the ‘free world’?

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                Jonesy

                FORFARKSAKE get it right! They are not right wing. THEY ARE FASCIST dictators. Hitler and Mussolini were not right wing anything they were both SOCIALIST.

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            Raven

            Putin wants to be Tzar and regain lost territory.

            Nah . . I reckon Putin would ‘like’ to regain lost territory but he’s smart enough to realise that’s out of reach without invading a NATO country. It won’t happen.

            Putin has been building his reserves for some time in anticipation of these sanctions.

            And now . . . February 4, 2022.
            “Russia, China agree 30-year gas deal via new pipeline, to settle in euros”

            https://www.reuters.com/world/asia-pacific/exclusive-russia-china-agree-30-year-gas-deal-using-new-pipeline-source-2022-02-04/

            Russia and China are going to become a lot closer from here on in
            This is probably not the New World Order that the WEF had in mind.

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              Sean

              If Putin believes NATO is or will become hostile, then it is militarily essential that Ukraine either remain neutral or be under Russian control. With Ukraine neutral, the Carpathian mountains form a barrier to NATO incursion in the south, leaving only the eastern border of Poland through which NATO could invade — the Baltic countries being easily cut off between Kaliningrad Oblast and the district of Grodno.

              Were Ukraine to become part of NATO, that would greatly increase the frontage along which NATO could attack, leaving Belarus as a salient into NATO territory vulnerable to being cut off, and placing Volgograd in threat of being taken, cutting the Volga as a transport route for Georgian oil and gas.

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        Sean McHugh

        How about X1 and Putin are both ruthless megalomaniacs and tyrants, cheering each other on (for now)? Don’t you think that’s a better fit?

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        Peter Fitzroy

        The Chinese have been agriculturalists for ever, and the Russians are descended from horse equiped raiders. and it shows in their strategic and tactical thinking

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          Jonesy

          Agriculturalist…as in a nation of peasants? Russian horse equipped invaders? Do you mean they are descendant of the Mongols? Opposite, China has been ordered more like a modern country for most of its six thousand year history. If anything they are a nation that spawn bureaucrats. Formal education, a standing military, a healthy trade regime both internally and internationally. Their biggest mistake was to close their borders to the world over six hundred years ago in the Ming Dynasty. As for Russia? The Slavs and Finns would have a different view to you, PF.

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            Peter Fitzroy

            so you agree about both, and prefer to split hairs.

            Fact is the west are settlers who trash everything, the chinese have a longer view as farmers, they need to preserve

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              b.nice

              Why this hatred of everything “west” ? Maybe you should move to China !

              All farmers know they have to preserve the land if they want to keep using it.

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              Jonesy

              NO, you are wrong on both counts, PF

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      max

      David Maddison
      March 5, 2022 at 7:42 am · Reply
      Most of the world-wide chaos against the interests of the West and humanity in general can be directly traced to the Left’s coup d’état against President Trump.

      H.G. Wells Plots The World Empire
      This is reprinted from Zbigniew Brzezinski
      In 1928, the leading British Round Table strategist, H.G. Wells, wrote The Open Conspiracy: Blue Prints for a World Revolution (New York: Doubleday, Doran and Company). The Open Conspiracy is Wells’ Mein Kampf—a recipe for how to establish a world government that would, over time, perhaps even over generations, recruit individuals and set up institutions to create a world “directorate” to run a “new world order.”
      Wells has one essential enemy that the Open Conspiracy must destroy: that is, the sovereign nation-state.
      End the nation-state forever, replacing it with a world government run by the “Atlantic” elite

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    Yonniestone.

    Russia targets strategic deep state bio weapons labs and assets while non Ukrainian government and msm propaganda stage a fake invasion for the world to wring their hands over and tempt involvement.

    I don’t know why China treats their Uyghur population so poorly as CCP foreign nationals seem to like the idea of “Spoils of war, booty”, I guess evil manifests in all where an absence of spirit prevails.

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    Binny Pegler

    Picture the drill sergeant, dumping the still sleeping new recruit’s bed upside down.
    That’s what Putin has just done to Europe.
    How quickly they can untangle themselves from their bed sheets and get to the parade ground will decide the out come of www3.
    Trump blew reveille but they just threw their boot at him and pulled the covers over their head.

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    GlenM

    Contrary to general thought Trump in reality would have let things go and Eastern Ukraine goes to Russia. Realpolitik you see.

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      Forrest Gardener

      Retrospective predictions are almost as tricky to make as future predictions.

      And bear in mind that President Trump was hampered and sabotaged at almost every step unless it furthered the interests of the deep state.

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        GlenM

        Don’t get me wrong, I’m a strong supporter of D Trump. Give me a conviction pragmatist any day.

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          Forrest Gardener

          Hi GlenM. I think there is little doubt that President Trump would handle the situation better. At the very least he could be trusted not to set out to make things worse.

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            Custer Van Cleef

            Trump would’ve drawn on all his knowledge of Shakespearean drama, that being of course, The Sopranos TV show.

            And obviously, just like ‘T’ and Johnny Sack used to do, you have a sit-down, do some horse trading “if you get this, I want that” … hug it out, and life goes back to ‘normal’ … or ‘the new normal’.

            Both sides walk away with something they can live with.

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      Binny Pegler

      No one knew for sure just what Trump would have done. – As said by Putin himself, which is why he held off until he had a more ‘professional’ (predictable) President in the White House. One thing we do know is ‘What ever’ Trump’s response it would have been quick and decisive. Either ‘All in’ or ‘All out’ As apposed to the current ‘green light’ Embassy closure. Then some harmless sanctions and then some more sanction. Depending which way the media is spinning things. Tring to ‘look’ like your doing something, without committing either way.

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    Peter Fitzroy

    China seeking advantage, who would have thought

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    David Maddison

    Some further commentary about China’s reaction.

    https://youtu.be/3o-R_DPuMZA

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    max

    H.G. Wells Plots The World Empire

    H G Wells The Open Conspiracy
    H G Wells The New World Order

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    Australia’s problem is two fold:
    1) If the Yanks are distracted we will not have their Aircraft Carriers and subs in the NT, WA and Qld

    2) There are 25 million Australians, minus 13 million elderly and young, minus 1 million chinese, minus 1 million that have fled from other countries to avoid fighting leaves 10 million. 50% of these are woke cowards and 80% of whats left could not hammer a nail to hang a picture frame. So we are not left with much resistance

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      Forrest Gardener

      Ok. So what difference would we notice if Australia was 100% owned and controlled by China and other foreign interests over and above whatever the current percentage is?

      The answer to that question might provide some strategic direction for regaining Australia’s independence.

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        Regaining independence from who? Do you think Megan Markle controls what I think and do? Holy Mother of Moses!. Go back into your hole

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      Kippax

      And whether the resistance wants to resist ? I ain’t fighting for the likes of certain state premiers.

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    John Connor II

    India plans to avoid condemning Vladimir Putin’s invasion of Ukraine as it needs Russian weapons in its standoff with China, and officials in New Delhi are confident the U.S. won’t apply much pressure, people familiar with the matter said. Moscow has been one of India’s biggest weapons suppliers since the Cold War, with more than half of India’s fighter jets and almost all of its tanks coming from the country. Russia also backed Prime Minister Narendra Modi’s hardline policies in the disputed region of Kashmir, which were widely criticized. -Bloomberg.

    ..and Russia has stopped supplying missiles to the USA..
    Probably a good idea!

    Things are hotting up but it looks like the real game changer is weeks away yet.
    Just posturing, rhetoric, idiotic threats and self-destructive sanctions from the west so far.
    All that we have come to expect from our elected imbeciles.

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      Forrest Gardener

      The whole thing is like trying to untie a gourdian knot. FUBAR

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        Konrad

        Putin is demonstrating the time honored method of “untying” the Gordian knot. The WEF knot tiers forgot that gas, oil, fertilizer and tanks are real, and money is not.

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      Leo G

      India … needs Russian weapons in its standoff with China

      How to lose a standoff competition. Russia is a strategic partner and client of China.
      Is Narendra Modi buying protection from one partner in a protection racket against a security threat from the other partner?

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    A shout out to Jo, I have a screen shot of the John Hopkins dashboard where there were just over 10,000 cases (cases not deaths) and I knew she was right that this was going to big. Jo is a litmus test to big things. So I am concerned as a conservative educated bogan who will be on the front line.

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    Serge Wright

    Yes, China does want this war and it’s very likely that they asked Putin to start a conflict on the European border to create a war on two fronts when they invade Taiwan in the near future, making an allied response far more difficult. If you think about Putin’s invasion, it doesn’t make much sense on its own. Putin receives permanent sanctions and ends up in a cold war scenario where he loses over the long run. The only way Putin’s war makes sense is with a Chinese partnership to take over the free world. My guess is that China will start its troop movements against Taiwan once the US and NATO are forced into a direct conflict with Putin and have deployed troops and artillery in Europe. The lack of allied action to date is a sign that they are aware of the China-Russia plan and know they must hold off. The problem here is that Putin will keep going until Europe and the US have no alternative but to engage, so we can expect a ramp up at some point that is directed at NATO countries to force the engagement. Right now we are sitting at the greatest potential turning point in all of human history, where the free world will may and the entire world will become a prison of anarchy, run by treacherous dictators.

    The saddest part of all is that the people leading the free world in the WH, along with their woke General Milly, all believe that CC is their greatest threat and are completely focused on converting a military, formally of tough masculine soldiers into one of weak non-binary nancy-boys – where the word boys is banned and replaced by a nonsensical pronoun.

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    Konrad

    Sadly China is going to be one of the winners.

    The actions of the WEF Davos “elite” have forced the BRICS nations back together. Russia, India and China being the main players seeking exchange systems and trade free of WEF control.

    The US is just now threatening India with sanctions (a sharp contrast to the trade deals Abbott and Trump negotiated.) But it’s too late. When India chose to pursue therapeutics in response to the virus of Global Reset, the WEF financially threatened them. The threats worked until a mass “vaccination” attempt backfired and created Delta and India had to resort to Ivermectin to fix their problems.

    Is India threatened by sanctions from the US? The US with a dementia patient installed as leader via electoral fraud? The US suffering spiraling fuel prices while still importing over 500,000 barrels of Russian oil per day? Please!

    They may all hate each other, but the BRICS nations are now ascendant, and this rising tide floats China’s boat with it.

    The WEF pulled their Plandemic too soon. Then they financially threatened India. Then their Gormless puppet in Canada went and demonstrated good and hard that the financial system of the “Free World” was a greater risk than even China.

    Right now Australia needs to reverse on military spending for Ukraine and use that money for flood victims at home. It’s not like the high-heeled fetish video dancer Zelenskyy needs another cent. He became a billionaire after his WEF installation and has a 35 million mansion in Miami Florida. We need to focus on trade with India. They are the only BRICS nation we can align with.

    [Konrad, you have a lot of “code” embedded in this comment. Imagine that a new person surfing the web found this comment. Would they understand the acronyms?]ED

    [Also speculation about WEF is fine, but write it as speculation, not mind-reading. – jo]

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    William Astley

    China has been planning for a trade war and territory war for 30 years.

    Covid was planned. I agree with Serge’s comment. The Russian invasion does not make sense from Russia or Putin’s standpoint. Putin now is very isolated and completely dependent on the Chinese for economic and political support.

    China does appear to be preparing for a war. China has been implementing a plan to dominate production of everything. In a time of economic war China can bring our manufacturing to a stop by restricting key metals and products. We are busy destroying our countries fighting climate change and covid.

    https://www.breitbart.com/asia/2021/12/24/china-limits-magnesium-production-causing-supply-chain-constraints/

    China, the world’s top producer of magnesium, has severely limited production of the metal hardener — used across the aluminum industries — since September, throwing global supply chains into disarray and threatening to further disrupt worldwide trade through 2022.

    “Europe is expected to run out of magnesium stocks by the end of November,” European Aluminum, a Brussels-based industry body, predicted on October 22.
    “With an 87 percent production share, China has a near-total monopoly on global magnesium manufacturing,” European Aluminum acknowledged in a separate notice issued on September 27.
    “In 2001, Europe was forced to close its remaining magnesium production as a consequence of dumped Chinese imports, and now depends for 95 percent on China’s supply,” the industry representative recalled.

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    KP

    Could those guys pushing China releasing new bioweapons explain why Moderna registered a patent on the modifications to the spike protein that made Covid19 what it is, in 2017??

    That virus is an American invention.

    As for the Yanks coming to our rescue in any war with China, ain’t never going to happen! They won’t risk the USA for anyone else, they’ll only move when someone does a Pearl Harbour on them.

    “Ok. So what difference would we notice if Australia was 100% owned and controlled by China and other foreign interests over and above whatever the current percentage is?”

    You’re looking at changing from an American vassal state to a Chinese one? It wont make any difference to 90% of Aussies, there is always someone standing on top of them, and you can read any public comments to see how happy the public are with the democracy they have and the party in power.

    May we live in interesting times indeed!

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      Leo G

      Could those guys … explain why Moderna registered a patent on the modifications to the spike protein that made Covid19 what it is, in 2017??
      That virus is an American invention.

      Very likely.
      2017 was a busy year for Moderna.

      It was the year a Moderna safety evaluation reported that “mRNA is a labile biological molecule and therefore requires the use of protective delivery systems to effectively harness its potential”, because the mRNA was not limited to the injection site and migrates to the liver, spleen, bone marrow and heart.

      It also appears to be the year that a separate line of a novel bat coronavirus was developed separately from the strain that was to start a pandemic in late 2019-early 2020. A descendant of the latter was somehow released late 2021 as the Omicron strain.

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    Dave in the States

    “The CCP Flags were hurriedly packed away and some went so far as to pretend to be Japanese… because some of the malevolent intent here is just so toxic and word was spreading.”

    Well the Japanese language and Mandarin are about as different as English and Navaho. But I guess most people over there would not know how different the languages and cultures are, so they could pull it off.

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    Lawrie

    This post poses another question; how many of the Chinese living in Australia would defend Australia if the opponent was China? Would young Chinese be like the ones shown here? I dread to ask how many Australian academics, unionists and assorted leftists would side with Australia over the Chinese. Noting how various groups, including Aboriginal groups, are so vehemently anti Australian we would have a rather large fifth column operating within our borders. Our education system does not instill Australian pride and the socialist nirvana is widely promoted which then begs the question of who and how many would be prepared to defend our nation. I am sure you could leave aside Greens and green voters and most of the ALP. It would be interesting to see which way the ABC and SBS jumped although if they jumped the wrong way what an opportunity to stop funding them. As you can see I have serious doubts about Australia’s preparedness for conflict even before we consider the means to defend ourselves. Do we stop the missile production line when the wind drops? Matt Kean would say yes.

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      KP

      Well, I can’t see China invading with troops when they can buy influence, buy media, buy politicians, buy businessmen, buy the country.. The internet is already censored, so you never know what you are missing, they could expand on that and help the ABC promote the official view of the time.

      Just look at American media to see how Americans are lead by the nose to the ‘correct’ view of the Ukraine war. How hard would it be to get 90% of us behind whatever the new Govt wants, just look at the vaccines!

      Would we even know we have been taken over?

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      PeterS

      I don’t think it will be invasion with troops or business takeovers. If we continue to have the type of leaders (both political and corporate) we have today, things will get so bad here economically that we might end up begging for China to come in and take over to save us from ourselves. We’ve been following the mantra than money speaks louder than words for decades, and that will be the death of our society as we know it today.

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    yarpos

    The SerpentZA videos are interesting to watch. They show how the great Chinese success story is really a pretty crappy facade for the average Chinese.

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    PeterS

    Lots of the news sources are reporting that Russia has agreed to a temporary ceasefire in Ukraine to allow people to leave two encircled cities before completing the invasion.

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    feral_nerd

    Have watched a number of Winston’s posts. There are probably a thousand or more, all of them little gems. This is a sharp, observant, insightful chap, with much to say about the Middle Kingdom and its citizens. He ought to be advising the State Department.

    There is a huge reservoir of ugly supremacist sentiment in China, which informs its worldview and actions. Our Left ignores this, of course, because by its twisted logic the Chinese are “people of color,” and therefore incapable of sin. That’s gonna be a harsh reckoning when it finally sinks in how wrong they were.

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      PeterS

      There is a huge reservoir of ugly supremacist sentiment in China

      That is true but the left in the West and those who kowtow to them, such as our own LNP leaders at all levels, are an even stronger reservoir of ugly supremacists. That’s the real problem facing the West, not China nor Russia. We are our own worst enemy, both in the metaphorical and literal sense. China and Russia are just taking advantage of the decaying West. It doesn’t necessarily make it right but it does still happen. The root cause of the problem is the West is it has lost all credibility of being a moral and ethical leader.

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    PeterS

    Why Russia is Holding Back and why the West is being exposed as the real bully that might end up walking away with a bloody nose.

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      b.nice

      Its an occupation war.. The Russians obviously want infrastructure left intact.

      Seems they want the people intact as well, just not the Ukrainian political structure.

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        PeterS

        Agree. It also appears that Putin will not stop there. His ultimate goal looks like the reduction of NATO to dust, and I suspect the will succeed. If only the West didn’t allow itself to decay with so much wokeness. Putin must think Westerners are just a bunch of fools, and sadly he would be right. Just look at the leaders and parties we keep voting for.

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        Kim

        For the Russians it’s 2 things :- 1) Catherine the Great’s “If our borders aren’t secure then we need to extend them”, 2) resources – Ukraine supplies a massive amount of wheat. It is a bread basket, a very fertile and arable area. Imagine: Russia expands into Ukraine, Georgia, Moldova, Belarus and even further west and south. And it expands into central Eurasia – Kazakhstan, Afghanistan etc. Along with Iran, Pakistan etc. You have a massive country that has a vast amount of mineral and agricultural resources. Now look at China. You have 1.4B people looking at Russia and thanking Putin for the job he has just done. And you have India in the mix.

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    Kim

    China’s Game Plan:
    1) inherit the West’s useful idiots from the Soviet Union. Use them to attack and destabilise the West.
    2) Use Mad Vlad to attack the West. Destroy and weaken large parts of it.
    3) Dirty work done. Russia now also weak. Invade Russia.
    Resource problem solved.
    4) Take over the World – New World Order – Han Globalisation – One Han World.
    Security problem solved.
    Putin thinks that if he can feed the dragon the dragon won’t eat him. He’s a fool.

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      PeterS

      Putin may be mad but China is on his side because they have a common goal to subjugate and merge the two continents of Europe and Asia. That will be happening while the mad Western governments will be carrying out their woke plan to subjugate its people by reducing us to sniffling idiots as the stability and availability of power generation is smashed, and power and fuel prices scream to new heights causing massive shortages of water and food. In effect two cabals with rotten living standards akin to the old Soviet Russian regime. What happens after those two cabals have consolidated is to too early to tell but it certainly won’t be pretty for either side.

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    Ronin

    Vlad says that enforcing a no fly zone is an act of war, maybe we should define what an ‘Act of War’ is.

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      PeterS

      If NATO/US establish a no-fly zone over Ukraine then in their eyes it would “legal” to shoot down Russian planes. In Russia’s eyes that would be an act of war and possibly the start of WW3. NATO/US would be stupid to establish a no-fly zone. I doubt they are that stupid.

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    Dennis

    As most people know about or hav heard about the CCP has been using their “Belt & Road” diplomacy to reach out to mainly developing nations offering financial assistance including infrastructure to make them beholden to China, some have already been unable to meet repayment schedules and in accordance with terms and conditions have handed control to China to remove the financial liability.

    In my opinion what China had not factored in was Brexit followed by revival of free trade agreements with Commonwealth of Nations member countries, many still being discussed and negotiated, but well underway. Japan and the United States have expressed interest in participating.

    The second or possibly more important has been the revival of the QUAD arrangements between India, Japan, Australia and United States of America in 2019 by President Trump and Australian Prime Minister Morrison for defence purposes and other cooperation. And then in 2021 the agreement between Australia, UK and USA called AUKUS on defence and other issues of interest to all three.

    The combined trading and defence strengths must be significant deterrents for China-CCP to think hard about.

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    Bruce

    This rock-show in Ukraine has done one thing, at least for some.

    CLEARLY indicate the utter “creatively managed” uselessness of the Untidy Notions. (See also the usual caveat about not attributing to incompetence that which is clearly MALICE).

    Bear in mind who are the Permanent members” of the “security council” and who has Veto powers.

    You might remember the UN. A dubious bunch of terminal statits and useful idiots set out to “One World” the planet, one carefully m”mismanaged” crisis after another. Interesting conversations to be had with ex (and serving) military types who have been “seconded” or ven volunteered for “peacekeeping jobs”. Being told to “stand down” and watch a massacre take p;ace is one thing. Living with the knowledge that you actually followed such an order, is a different matter.

    And then, remember that the “Nuremberg Defence” (only following orders) has been legally invalid “internationally”, since WW2.

    And, when China “reunites” (spit), Taiwan, who will be watching the Russian activity just north of Japan?

    The long-term result of China’s “One-child” policy inextricably linked to traditional “first child” gender selection, means that there are somewhere between 20 and 30 million, marriageable age young men, who are going to be out of luck And I don’t think ALL of them are going to start cruising the Bund in Shanghai.

    Then there is the rise of the “little Empresses, the girls who survived, many of whom have been exported for “educational purposes” and who in some cases, are reluctant to go back to China. Mixed families? Dual-citizenship? Regarding the young blokes: What is a totalitarian government to do with so many disenchanted / desperate, military-age men? Three guesses; second two don’t count.

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    PeterS

    No, it’s not China that wants this war. Ukraine does with the support of the US….The Coming WWIII

    My concern is that their [US} mistake is they think they can take down Russia and then turn to China. Our model warns that that will be a fatal mistake and China will join Russia.

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