The Sunday Times says “bioweapon” very quietly

By Jo Nova

Ten years of lies, deception, and dangerous experiments

Imagine if our adversaries were splicing together mutant viruses and testing them on humanized mice for years in order to make them more pathogenic, and our top researchers were helping them, our government was funding them, and we had years of warnings that the experiments were dangerous.

The Sunday Times says “bioweapon” very quietly, but it’s in print in a long feature article with plenty of ugly details. The headline is very sedate given the gravity. The world would have reacted very differently in January 2020…

An Act of War or an accident of war?

What really went on inside the Wuhan lab weeks before Covid erupted

Johnathon Calvert and George Abuthnott, The Sunday Times

Fresh evidence drawn from confidential files reveals Chinese scientists spliced together deadly pathogens shortly before the pandemic, the Sunday Times Insight team report.

For starters — here’s a map of the places where people were reporting on social media that they had covid in January 2020. While everyone was talking about sea-food markets, the big clue was there all the time.

The Sunday Times. Map Wuhan. Covid. WIV. Laboratory. Outbreak. Covid.

These hot spots were published by the academics at Wuhan University. But they somehow didn’t think to label the Wuhan Institute of Virology. The US Senate investigation years later put that dot on the map (after half a billion people had caught the virus). If any of our government health and intelligence agencies had been remotely competent or interested in our health, and if the CCP had been a good global citizen, this would have been known in the first few months.

From a cave in Yunnan

The story starts in 2012 with the WIV team finding SARS like viruses in the Shitou cave 800 kilometers south of Wuhan. They had American funding and training to help them. The same year, six miners nearby in Moijang Mine fell horribly sick with some unknown coronavirus and three died. The WIV team kept this to themselves, but went back to the Moijang mine to collect 1,300 samples from the bats there over the next few years. They discovered not one or two, but 293 coronaviruses. One of those viruses would emerge as the nearest known relative of Covid-19. (Called RaTG13)

Over the next eight years the WIV would experiment on the SARS-like coronaviruses from the Shitou cave and publish some papers, but in parallel, they were apparently also working on the nasty Moijang mine viruses, which they weren’t talking about.

Thanks to American know-how

The Americans meanwhile have taught the chinese researchers how to work with mice that have “humanized” lung cells. The WIV team infects the mice with a mutated version of the SARS-like virus they found in the cave in 2012. Three quarters of the test mice die, but again, the WIV team keeps it to themselves.

The American who led the way and taught the Chinese was Ralph Baric at the University of North Carolina. He was the one who made the humanized mice — he put human genes into the mice so they grew “human-like” lungs which made them ideal for studying human pathogens.

Coronavirus

He knew he was playing with fire:

“Ominously, tools exist for simultaneously modifying the genomes for increased virulence [and] transmissibility,” he had written in a 2006 paper. “These bioweapons could be targeted to humans, domesticated animals or crops, causing a devastating impact on human civilisation.”

By 2012 as many as 30 labs around the world were working with live SARS viruses and a senior fellow at the Centre for Arms Control and Non-Proliferation called for these experiments to be stopped, pointing out that it was just a matter of time before a virus escaped. Yet grant money continued to flow to China.

Between 2013 and 2015 the Bat lady of Wuhan, Dr Shi Zhengli collaborated with Ralph Baric in the US.  She sent him the genetic sequences from the Shitou Cave SARS like viruses. In 2014 Barak Obama called for a moratorium on gain-of-function experiments, except for the “urgent and safe ones”, of course, and so Ralph Baric got an exemption. He melded the spike from one SARS virus onto another:

The results of Baric’s experiment with the genetic sequence given to him by Shi were published in co-authored research in November 2015. The combined Sars copy and SHC014 virus was a potential mass killer. It caused severe lung damage in humanised mice and was resistant to vaccines developed for Sars. The paper acknowledged this might have been an experiment that was too dangerous.

It caused a big stir. “If the virus escaped, nobody could predict the trajectory,” warned Simon Wain-Hobson, a virologist at the Pasteur Institute in Paris.

The Wuhan team were apparently very happy to learn these techniques and kept right on going.

Meanwhile a British bat expert called Peter Daszak was involved in a Wildlife Trust which somehow became the EcoHealth Alliance. He arranged some NIH grants, and provided cover by writing reports that missed a few important details. When 75% of the mice died in one experiment he wrote that they had mild SARS-like symptoms. He later said that this was based on “preliminary results”, but the mice were long dead by a few months before he said that.

At one point in 2018 Daszak applied for $14 million in funding from Darpa (US Defense Advanced Research Projects Agency). He and Shi and Baric wanted to find lots of SARS like viruses and fuse them with their favourite deadly Shitou cave varieties. So Darpa said “no thanks” to that. But in the application they said they’d like to insert a furin cleavage site into a SARS virus. When the funding bombed, they claim they didn’t do the experiment, but somehow, by strange coincidence, when SARS-2 appeared it had a furin cleavage site. It was the first SARS-like coronavirus which had a the target site for our furin enzymes to cleave.

[Dr Steven] Quay believes Covid-19 was created by inserting a furin cleavage site into one of the mine viruses and then serial passaging it through humanised mice. He submitted a statement to the US Senate explaining the process. “You infect the mice, wait a week or so, and then recover the virus from the sickest mice. Then you repeat. In a matter of weeks this directed evolution will produce a virus that can kill every humanised mouse.”

The Chinese Military thought they would like to help too?

Around 2016 or so the WIV team became fairly secretive. The Chinese Military allegedly got interested and funded WIV work as well. What a cauldron.

The State Department investigators wrote in their report: “Despite presenting itself as a civilian institution, the United States has determined that the Wuhan Institute of Virology has collaborated on publications and secret projects with China’s military. The Wuhan Institute of Virology has engaged in classified research, including laboratory animal experiments, on behalf of the Chinese military since at least 2017.”

One of the investigator sources said the secret military-funded experiments on the mine virus, RaTG13, began in 2016. At around that time, the Wuhan institute became even less open about its work and mostly stopped revealing any new coronaviruses it discovered. In the lead-up to the pandemic, the Wuhan institute frequently experimented on coronaviruses alongside the Academy of Military Medical Sciences, a research arm of the People’s Liberation Army (PLA).

As I’ve said — we’re in a biotech Cold War, or maybe even a hot one:

A vaccine to shift power

The investigators believe the Chinese military had taken an interest in developing a vaccine for the viruses so they could be used as potential bioweapons. If a country could inoculate its population against its own secret virus, it might have a weapon to shift the balance of world power.

There were plenty of red flags — in 2010 China was talking about the threat of biological weapons —  warning with toe-curling detail on potential race-based genetic weapons.  In 2015 Chinese Military Scientists said the Third World War would be fought with biological weapons. And the CCP has a history of helping to spread diseases by hiding the outbreaks: firstly in 1957, then 1968, then with SARS-1, now with SARS-2.

Even as early as mid-April 2020 insiders had told us that the CCP ordered all virus samples at the WIV to be destroyed on January 1st 2020. Our intelligence agencies must have known.

Art: https://www.scientificanimations.com

h/t Ianl

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98 comments to The Sunday Times says “bioweapon” very quietly

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    David Maddison

    Isn’t it interesting that everything that conservatives and fellow rational thinkers claimed was true was laughingly jeered at by Leftists, who called us “tin foil hat conspiracy theorists” and other things they regard as slurs like being “heterosexual, MAGA, white, males” etc., are now turning out to be true? Including conservatives’ concerns about covid vaccine safety and efficacy issues and alternative safe treatment options.

    Their denial of reality led to tremendous harm.

    Don’t forgive. Don’t forget. Prosecute.

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    Dianeh

    One question.

    WHY create deadly viruses?

    I can’t imagine a good reason for doing so. China sees this as weapons development, still not a good reason as its just as likely to wipe themselves out as anyone else. But why are the West funding this research.

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      John Hultquist

      Compare to the herbicide glyphosate (Roundup®) and the crops that are resistant to it, called Roundup Ready®. A farmer can plant Roundup Ready Corn and spray the field with Roundup. Weeds die and corn thrives.
      [weeds = enemies; corn = Chinese]
      This assumes they were also working on Wuhan Flu Ready natives.

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      Ted1.

      Science justifies itself, within obvious limitations. If science can be weaponised, it is better that you know this before your enemy does.

      That does not excuse accidental loss of control of injurious science.

      And it does not excuse American citizens from American law in their actions outside of America’s jurisdiction.

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      TdeF

      The West are funding it because it’s illegal at home and crazy lethal. And Dr Fauci knew all about it. He was funding it in the same way Biden received money from Ukraine, filtered. Plausible deniability. And don’t forget this was a Military lab controlled by the Chinese Peoples Army and built by the French. All the usual suspects.

      Another other rumour is that there is a similar laborotory in Ukraine, with Moldova the poorest country in Europe. And if it escapes Chinese or Ukranians die. When was that not true?

      The idea is that you cannot stop weapons research. If you cannot do it, your enemy will.

      What is so outrageous and evil is that the US was funding it through Fauci. Who officially knew nothing about it.

      It would be comparable to funding nuclear weapons research in Hitler’s Germany. In the end the US had to move very quickly just to catch the Germans but German scientists played down the potential and Hitler dismissed it all, concentrating on Vengeance Weapons he understood. Not Jewish science he did not. And all the nuclear science at the time was German.

      And then you get the capture of another UN department, the WHO by a President Xi appointee, non medical doctor who announced on 26 January 2020 that Wuhan Flu was “not infectious, person to person”. When he knew that was a lie.

      I do not understand after tens of millions of deaths why President Xi and Tedros Adhonom are not before the Internatinal Court of Justice. And Dr. Fauci.

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        TdeF

        Perhaps the only good thing which came from this, unintentionally, was that President Xi realised that any mass murder bioweapon will have blowback. Like Chlorine gas in WW1. In fact it looks like the rule of the CCP was greatly threatened by terror and popular uprising against the CCP, although that was hidden. So now they will be working on a bioweapon which only targets Americans.

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        Adellad

        Hint: It’s the International Court of Selective Justice, it is a One World Government kangaroo court that aims its weaponry on approved targets only.

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      Strop

      not a good reason as its just as likely to wipe themselves out as anyone else

      Bio weapons development and use steps.

      Step 1 – develop the bio weapon
      Step 2 – don’t let it out until vaccine is developed
      Step 3 – develop vaccine for protection of self
      Step 4 – don’t let the enemy get the vaccine
      Step 5 – release the weapon
      Step 6 – continue to not let the enemy get the vaccine
      Step 7 – deny any bio weapon development

      It seems they got halfway through step 1 and had to jump straight to step 7.

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        Ed Zuiderwijk

        Step 6a: the enemy (us I presume) realises it has been attacked
        Step 6b: the enemy realises that the number of casualties will be similar to that of a total nuclear war.
        Step 6c: the enemy decides the only rational response is therefore a massive overwhelming pre-emptive nuclear wipe out.

        Step 7: Someone near Wuhan invents the bow and arrow.

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      Geoff

      To reduce the general population. It has nothing to do with war. Its genocide writ large. A UN organised agenda.

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      Anton

      Dianeh: To answer your question, here is more from the article in the Sunday Times (which I bought a hard copy of, here in England):

      The truly cutting-edge experiments were being done in the US by the veteran virologist Ralph Baric at the University of North Carolina. He used a technique to fuse together different pathogens by mixing their genes. To test the effect of these lab-created mutant viruses on people, he created “humanised” mice by injecting them with genes that allowed them to develop lungs and vascular systems similar to ours. His ultimate aim was to create a universal vaccine against Sars-type viruses – an objective still not achieved. Baric was aware this type of “gain of function” work, so-called becaue it can enhance virus potency, was controversial and could have a sinister application. “Ominously, tools exist for simultaneously modifying the genomes for increased virulence [and] transmissibility,” he had written in a 2006 paper. “These bioweapons could be targeted to humans, domesticated animals or crops, causing a devastating impact on human civilisation.

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    Murray Shaw

    So Donald Trumps name for it, “the Wuhan Flu” was again proving DJT prescient.

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      Graeme+P.

      Personally, I liked “China Virus” but I just can’t get The Dons inflection right.

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      TdeF

      The WHO renamed it to hide its obvious origin and that it was a deliberate release by the CCP with support from their minions like the Communist mayor of Florence who amazingly announced ‘hug a Chinese’ day as the planes landed. Or maybe that was a coincidence?

      And Donald Trump was right about the whole thing, despite Dr. Fauci and Nancy Pelosi who claimed he was a Xenophobe in shutting off Chinese travel. And later claimed he had not acted fast enough! Which shows unbelievable hypocrisy, which seems normal in today’s Democratic party as they chase Donald Trump as a traitor and not actual President Biden for his unbelievable family dealings with Ukraine. Or his coke addict son how flew everywhere on Air Force One to set up the deals for his VP and now President father.

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        TdeF

        It is staggering how rich the entire Biden family is now. Especially when Joe after a lifetime in the Senate as the sixth youngest senator in American history had a salary of only as much as $140,000 a year. They must be great savers.

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    John Hultquist

    I would like to see this story and the “vaccine” story separate. I mean the science of the two things.
    As for the agencies, politicians, and China-leaning chattering class shine thereon bright lights.

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      Kalm Keith

      Good point about shining the light.
      Who had deep, active connections with Wuhan.

      After that, maybe, perhaps the full glare would go to attachment, co-mingling with Ukraine.

      Up till now the electricity for those lamps has been very unreliable; renewables?

      See, renewables can be effective.

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    Neville

    The USA wants to pull all secret funding with the CCP now and the sooner the DEMs are voted out the better.
    And the OECD countries should try their best to redirect trade to more trusted countries like India, South Korea, Vietnam etc until the Chinese Communists wake up.
    Unlike our Paul Keating loony I wouldn’t trust the CCP at all and on a personal level I’m very careful where I spend my money today.
    IOW anywhere but China and the dangerous CCP.

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    David Maddison

    The huge amount of support by the Left in Western countries for the Chicomms is suppressing awareness of the very real intentions of the Chicomm war against the West and their development of race-based bioweapons.

    China is harvesting the genetic profiles of vast numbers of people whom it considers its enemies. E.g.

    https://www.reuters.com/investigates/special-report/health-china-bgi-dna/

    A Chinese gene company selling prenatal tests around the world developed them in collaboration with the country’s military and is using them to collect genetic data from millions of women for sweeping research on the traits of populations, a Reuters review of scientific papers and company statements found.

    They are also interested in developing race-specific bio-weapons as mentioned in that article and:

    https://www.foxnews.com/world/china-collecting-worlds-dna-sinister

    According to Chang, genetic data gives China the ability to create bioweapons that can target certain groups of people. Furthermore, he said the country’s behavior of collecting the DNA of foreigners while prohibiting Chinese DNA to foreign researchers supports this theory.

    Of course, Leftists will claim this is a “conspiracy theory” of “conservative, heterosexual, white, males” etc. but there is plenty of evidence that this is part of their military strategy.

    https://www.defenseone.com/ideas/2019/08/chinas-military-pursuing-biotech/159167/

    We may be on the verge of a brave new world indeed. Today’s advances in biotechnology and genetic engineering have exciting applications in medicine — yet also alarming implications, including for military affairs. China’s national strategy of military-civil fusion (军民融合) has highlighted biology as a priority, and the People’s Liberation Army could be at the forefront of expanding and exploiting this knowledge.

    The PLA’s keen interest is reflected in strategic writings and research that argue that advances in biology are contributing to changing the form or character (形态) of conflict. For example:

    SEE LINKS FOR COMPLETE ARTICLES

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      KP

      Yes, China is trying to keep up with the USA in developing race-specific bioweapons, they were collecting DNA samples from thousands of Russians and Ukrainians.

      It was noted decades ago that one of the high-fatality low-transmission viruses hit Asians more because of a different ratio of sugars in their cell walls. At the time no-one thought of bioweapons..

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    Old Goat

    Insanity .This is what we are commenting about . There is nothing sane about bio weapons . No one wins a bio war – everyone loses (like nuclear). Extinction rebellion are targeting “fossil fuels” when the danger is elsewhere . The human species is doomed unless we start acting rationally .

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      David Maddison

      Bioweapons dont need to kill to be successful.

      Economic destruction and social disruption is enough.

      SEE my comment #21.1.

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    Greg in NZ

    Colour me shocked! It’s another Babylon Bee moment:

    The World Has Run Out Of Consp!racy Theor!es – please submit new ideas to the Ministry of Truth where Jacinda will be pleased to track your call… 0800CONJOB.

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    MrGrimNasty

    As I said at the time, the only explanation for the unprecedented lockdown policy was that ‘they’ knew something that ‘they’ weren’t telling us. Not just the Chinese, but Western governments have known all along the true source.

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      Leo G

      Not just the Chinese, but Western governments have known all along the true source.

      The Sunday Times provides one more misleading narrative. The SARS-CoV research at Wuhan was part of an American biowarfare program which the US government, for reasons yet to be explained, decided to conduct using CCP biowarfare scientists.

      One obvious possibility was that the US government agency commissioning the research intended to release the virus in China to create a global pandemic and to implicate China.

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        Ted1.

        “They” suspended democracy.

        Where did they get the power to do that?

        This was Chicken Little on steroids. But who was Chicken Little? and why did the rest blindly follow?

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        KP

        “The SARS-CoV research at Wuhan was part of an American biowarfare program which the US government, for reasons yet to be explained, decided to conduct using CCP biowarfare scientists.”

        Gain of function research was banned by Obama in 2014, so the Yanks moved it to China. They already had some top-level Chinese scientists in the USA doing it, they were more friendly in those days. Since then the ban has been rescinded so America no longer needs the Chinese doing it.

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    Kevin a

    Senator Gerard Rennick
    And yet no institution has a “Physical Copy” of the virus extracted directly from a sick person. according to over 200 FOI requests.

    You’d think they’d at least be able to provide the genetic sequence of the Virus.
    https://www.facebook.com/gerard.rennick/posts/pfbid02oQDMmenVgTbtdptdPoXEp4KkgcZKSLAD7WiqW4zA7ZqSotraxdJyWynakVFrcNR8l

    [Nextstrain is the open source database where more than five million full sequences are stored. — Jo]

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      fergus

      The complete gene sequence (~30K bp) of the main variant (NC_045512) has been available for at least 4 or 5 years now. Many variants and mutations have also been sequenced. Here is a link to the US NIH/NCBI repository.
      https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/gene/?term=NC_045512

      You can download the various sequences and analyze them yourself if you want. The NCBI database has an immense repository of DNA/RNA data as well as identification of function of specific subsequences for a very large number of organisms and tissue types.

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        Kevin a

        Thanks for the link but what is the error rate of the US NIH/NCBI repository. how is it measured? How is it calibrated?

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          fergus

          The NCBI repository is based on peer reviewed publications of original work in the broad category of biotechnology. It includes work on everything from proteins to large molecular structures as well as data analytic methods. Generally a particular genome of interest will have multiple sources from multiple groups. The basis for each such work is supported by peer reviewed publications. I have used the sequences there myself for analysis of several organisms including several variants of bacillus anthracis, subtilis, radiodurans and a few others. To get an idea of the kind of information provided I suggest going to the link itself, downloading the source document and examining the sequence itself, the supporting subsequence information, and the references within the documentation. It conforms to the current standard for biomedical research. NCBI does not itself vouch for the “accuracy” per se of each entry but leaves that to the using researcher, as one would do for any information published in the biomedical field. One does this by examining the work itself.

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            Kevin a

            But we still do not have a “Physical” reference material to run a calibration. How do we check for errors, and what is the error rate if we do not have a physical copy of the original?
            Peer review by who? Does any one actually read the process?

            “If peer review were a drug, it would never get on the market.”
            https://www.forbes.com/sites/geoffreykabat/2015/11/23/the-crisis-of-peer-review/?sh=543c41ea463e

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              Kevin, we do have physical reference material. There are literally 10^6 – 10^12 complete copies per ml of saliva in every infected person. These demands for a purified sole physical object in a jar are frivolous. How do you know the Sun exists? Do you have a whole complete and pure physical sample? How do you check for errors or do calibration without a Sun in your lab?

              For the hundredth time, learn what a plaque assay and antibody tests are. Study how we can take a solution with a trillion viruses (and a bunch of cells) and test it four ways to show that the whole 29,000 kb sequence is there and the proteins that surround it and are made from that code are there. Then dilute it down, put it on multiple tissue plates to show exactly how many active working viruses are present per ml by the plaques of death you see on the plate and can count with your own eyes. How do you think researchers predicted ivermectin might be useful from lab tests?

              I repeat, you can’t buy a box of “pure” computer virus without the copper and silicon that it lives in. There is no “pure” sequence of 1s and 0s for sale anywhere. And yet it can still ruin your computer.

              Fergus’s point is that there are thousands of independent labs all over the world who are cross checking the sequences, the proteins, and measuring the active virions per ml. To “Fake” this pandemic requires an obscenely, improbably massive cartel working 24/7. It is so much easier to create a new real pathogen in one lab than a fake pandemic needing 100% compliance from 10,000 pathology labs and university teams.

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    ianl

    Well, well … I referenced the Sunday Times article on this website on June 12.

    To repeat, there are many statements in it trying to absolve US virologists (and other Western collaborators) from involvement in the dangerous ongoing research. This limited hangout (partial whitewash) is too smarmy for belief, although one would expect the article would not be permitted to be published without this; those supplying information for the article would have insisted on it. A long way to go yet …

    It does seem likely that the CCP’s PLA went further than initially promised, but Western knowledge of this was quite well informed in any case. A senior Chinese researcher who published available, informed articles early on was “disappeared”.

    Nor should Australians become too smug about having clean hands here. The CSIRO lab in Geelong appears to have researchers there whose names are referenced as co-writers on published research for developments in Wuhan around 2014-2016. Because this is really “hot”, if the censor (aka moderator) here spikes this paragraph, I’d understand.

    For those interested, here again is the paywalled Sunday Times article:

    What really went on inside the Wuhan lab weeks before Covid erupted

    https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/inside-wuhan-lab-covid-pandemic-china-america-qhjwwwvm0

    https://archive.is/V4pwW

    Fresh evidence drawn from confidential files reveals Chinese scientists spliced together deadly pathogens shortly before the pandemic, the Sunday Times Insight team report Sunday June 11, 2023

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      Thanks Ian. Apologies, belated hat tip added.

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      KP

      “Nor should Australians become too smug about having clean hands here. ”

      I’m still waiting to hear what happened to the samples from America’s biolabs in Ukraine that were suddenly flow out ahead of the Russian invasion and some were delivered to Melbourne.

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        Kalm Keith

        Spooky.

        But thankfully Melbourne is nothing like China and those samples will be well cared for and rigorously protected from misuse.

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    Serge Wright

    Despite the mountain of evidence, our own ABC still rejects the lab leak as conspiracy which I find to be more than just poor or ideologically bent journalism. If there is a good conspiracy here, it relates to obvious political intrusion into our government media and also into global MSM. In this case, all MSM were parroting the same “wet market” lines following the virus outbreak and when Sharri came out with a very comprehensive evidence brief on the lab leak theory, the outcry from our Aunty was instant and damning. Even in more recent months the ABC is still clinging to it’s wet market theory as the lab leak evidence continues to grow from 99% certainty and upwards. IMO – A comprehensive inquiry needs to held into our ABC and we need answers as to why they flatly reject a theory with a mountain of evidence and push another one that is simply not possible without a known intermediary host.

    We also need to determine if the virus release was accidental or deliberate and if deliberate, who authorised the release ?. Was it done by Trump’s enemies to prevent a 2nd term of office or by the CCP to bring down the west ?.

    https://www.abc.net.au/news/2023-03-22/new-data-links-covid-origin-to-wet-market/102128110

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    It’s a war on many fronts. The corruption of science, corporations, politicians, main stream media and the corruption of medicine. Are all medical practices across Australia refusing to prescribe Ivermectin or is it just a local decision in your city?
    I highly recommend watching the Malhotra-Dowd-Wolf-Shipman conference on the corruption of medicine; https://theaussiewire.vhx.tv/

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    John in Oz

    The Covid story, including Pfizer’s involvement, goes back a long way according to this presentation

    Dr David Martin’s presentation during the International Covid Summit (hosted by the European Parliament).
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bg2QGacVlnI

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    Memoryvault

    Can we please stop playing follow the sheeple and throttle back a little on the China bashing?

    the Wuhan Institute was officially built by the French Government. However, actual construction was overseen by pharmaceutical conglomerate GlaxoSmithKline (GSK). It is staffed by European and American researchers employed via GSK. Pfizer have a controlling shareholder stake in GSK, and Bill Gates is a major shareholder in both Pfizer and GSK.

    Both the Covid 19 virus and the Astraveneca “vaxxine” were patented in 2018 by a consortium controlled by Bill Gates and Anthony Fauci.

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      TdeF

      It was built by the French for the Chinese People’s Army. The Chinese military bought the technology. And the Americans were involved so they could do what was illegal at home. Deniably of course.

      Just as we bought five desalination plants we did not need and on the tick and I suspect we are still paying and had a $250Bn contract for useless French diesel submarines. And our Mirage jets. France has been the biggest vendor of weapons in the world. Don’t underestimate the commercial involvement of the French.

      France was the dominant military power in Europe since the Roman Empire. Most major wars were French and those that we not had French suppliers. Remember Napoleon, just 200 years ago? The business area of Paris is La Defence, which should be a clue. Even the Australian involvement in the Gallipoli campaign was with the French. As was the previous war in Crimea, a joint British French expedition to punish the upstart Russians, a ‘punitive’ war about the keys to Jerusalem.

      And clearly that munitions business obviously extends to bioweapons.

      However there is no French bashing. Possibly because of the popularity of wine, coffee, croissants and other pastries?

      As for China bashing, they not only created it, they distributed it knowingly, deliberately and with help. Especially from the WHO/UN which they control. And at least ten million deaths later, it can hardly be called bashing to blame those responsible.

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        MV – read the post before you comment. There is more than one psychopath in the world. China uses Pharma. Pharma uses China. US Defence use China and China uses the DoD. China uses the Bankers and Bankers use everyone. I could go on… actually already have — read my posts on Pfizer.

        Good people are getting screwed by a whole team of players. Broaden your horizons, eh?.

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      Old Goat

      MV,
      Correct. China is far from innocent but the fall guy in this . The virus and vaccine were both weapons . Read “The real Anthony Fauci” if you want background on this . We are all being gaslit by psychopaths who crave total control . Believe the media at your own risk .
      The hedge funds and big banks organised for most industry to migrate to China and have cheered on the current stupidity . They and their controllers (WEF) have engineered our current predicament .

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      Kalm Keith

      It’s always useful to pull back a little bit to be able to see the bigger picture.

      https://joannenova.com.au/2023/06/the-sunday-times-says-bioweapon-very-quietly/#comment-2678700

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    STJOHNOFGRAFTON

    If a country could inoculate its population against its own secret virus, it might have a weapon to shift the balance of world power.

    Tom Clancy’s novel Rainbow Six (1998) has a not too dissimilar plot. But instead of the bioweapon being used to give a country like China world ascendancy, in Rainbow Six a small group of WEF type elites want to destroy the world’s population with Shiva an Ebola type virus. Only the elite megalomaniac villains will be left behind to enjoy their Eden-like utopia as a result of having been inoculated with the antidote vaccine. Interestingly Shiva is propagated at the Sydney Olympics via a mist sprayed onto the spectators and athletes to keep them cool in the summer heat. Rainbow Six is a déjà vu kind of read.

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    Uber

    If there’s a war then it’s the elites against the untouchables. We were funding this stuff with China, so hardly a war between us and them.

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    Gee Aye

    The ST has been commented on by The Conversation too.

    Interesting link to a similar one in the BBC months ago https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-china-57268111

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      David Maddison

      It is disingenuous for The Conversation and BBC to even acknowledge the possibility of a bioweapon or lab leak theory because all along they promoted those possibilities as “right wing tin-foil hat wearing conspiracy theories” and laughed at any suggestion that they might be true.

      They shouldn’t change their minds now without first apologising for their previous unprofessional “journalism” and promotion of CCP propaganda on the matter.

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      Peter C

      Ultimately, of course, another option for the international community is that they do nothing………… And even merely bringing up the issue of biowarfare with China would be diplomatically contentious and ruffle a lot of political feathers.

      From “The Conversation”.

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    Broadie

    NSW Health evidently agreed with Peter Daszak in 2020.

    Meanwhile a British bat expert called Peter Daszak was involved in a Wildlife Trust which somehow became the EcoHealth Alliance. He arranged some NIH grants, and provided cover by writing reports that missed a few important details. When 75% of the mice died in one experiment he wrote that they had mild SARS-like symptoms. He later said that this was based on “preliminary results”, but the mice were long dead by a few months before he said that.

    There would have to a special kind of ‘Looney Green’ to release a bio weapon without any form of self protection. The Australian Bureau of Statistics data suggests the excess deaths did not coincide with the arrival of the SARS-Cov-2 virus in our Country though there is excess mortality in 2021. The Australian Actuaries Institute Covid 19 Working Group appears to accept the advice of the TGA that there isn’t a correlation with the Vaccine roll out despite wondering out loud as to where the data was on the jabbing.

    NSW Health were looking for the deadly symptoms in 2020

    IN FOCUS
    SYMPTOM PROFILE FOR COVID-19 IN NSW
    Reporting period: 1 January to 29 August 2020

    The symptoms reported by COVID-19 cases in NSW are consistent with a mild respiratory
    infection in the majority of cases. The principal symptoms reported in cases were cough (58%), fatigue
    (55%), headache (47%), fever (39%) and sore throat (37%).
    More severe respiratory symptoms at diagnosis, including pneumonia, shortness of breath and/or acute
    respiratory disease (ARD) were reported in 20% of cases and in 56% of fatal cases.

    Like the Emergency Hospitals in Hubei Province 2020 that shut down after a month, New South Wales Hospitals were not seeing a pandemic.

    Hospitalisations
    in these younger age groups are likely to reflect precautionary measures rather than severity of disease

    So if you were a Looney with the ability to solve the projected population crisis, which holster would you draw from, a virus that gave people a head cold in 2020 or something that could be injected and appears to have been lethal in 2021?

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    chris

    Why now Sunday Times?

    “unless the CCP can prove otherwise, the world has all the right to believe that the Wuhan coronavirus was made by the CCP.”

    “Fresh evidence drawn from confidential files”
    Does the story identify these files which are now presenting fresh evidence?
    NerdHasPower put their blog up in March 2020:
    https://nerdhaspower.weebly.com/

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    As a Bio Weapon then this Coronavirus has failed. A Bio Weapon should have killed at least 40% of the population. This didn’t. However, I’m sure that someone (CCP, the USA, the EU, the Russians) are working on the ‘low’ Coronavirus death rate to improve it and to be ready for WW3. Kind of scary isn’t it.

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      David Maddison

      As a “proof of concept” it was highly successful.

      And who said a bioweapon had to kill?

      It caused enormous economic destruction and social disruption and caused Western countries to remove many of their traditional freedoms, most never to be returned, especially in countries like Australia where laws don’t tend to be written with sunset clauses and most people don’t seem to care about losing their freedoms.

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        It only caused that damage because of the imbeciles running Guv’ments/Countries and Health Services. The other damage was caused by the People themselves NOT standing up for their Freedoms. I stood up for mine at all times. And I never had the Jab or have had the Virus. I do have a Winter Cold right now which is fairly normal for me.

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          Often its better to wound an enemy soldier than kill them. Especially if you have a long term slow acting affliction which may cause a productivity burden for months or years…

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    John Connor II

    An interesting topic, that of bioweapons.

    Bill Gates is now a major owner of US farmland and therefore control over what gets grown there.
    In parallel news, the Svalbard global seed vault (doomsday vault) is just about complete and operational.
    So if some cataclysm were to occur to global crops, perhaps by way of GMO monocultured ones, disease or deliberate act, there is a backup plan. Maybe. 😉
    There are dozens of other such vaults globally too.

    The Fakevax ™ “bioweapon” is very inefficient as a quick kill. Far better as a slow kill with obfuscated and highly variable effects spread over 5-10 years, that leaves no direct proof of it being the cause.
    Similarly with ethnic or other trait based bioweapons – the highly consistent targetting leaves a nice trail to the source.
    While such weapons do exist and have been used before, the traceability makes them a no-no.

    There are at least 60 well known labs worldwide dealing in the most dangerous pathogens. Ukraine alone has 4 dozen.
    Wuhan is about to lose it’s #1 ranking to the USA, and that’s hardly a good thing!
    How massive is bioweapons research?
    Well there’s a secret facility called the Dugway Proving Ground and it’s around 800,000 acres.

    Maybe the next plandemic will be the biggie…

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      David Maddison

      If there is a calamity large enough to justify the opening oF the seed vault, most likely most of the population will already be dead anyway.

      Plus, it would take years of planting seeds, harvesting and reharvesting to establish a reasonable food source for the survivors.

      It might be better for survivors to go carnivore and eat herbivorous animals. Presumably there will be some animals that survive.

      The seed vault would be useful as a source of genetic material to create new strains resistant to whatever new pathogens may be developed.

      Of course, the seed vault itself (Svalbard and others) is vulnerable to enemy destruction.

      Incidentally, most of the world’s banana crop (Cavendish) is a monoculture and highly susceptible to being wiped out by Panama disease.

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        John Connor II

        Yep, but do you think the elite, deepstate and neocons CARE about the masses?
        So long as they’re looked after, that’s all that matters, and such a disaster probably won’t affect them as they have private farms and stockpiles of everything, everywhere…

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      Broadie

      Appears to be more about data capture in agriculture.

      This is explained in a recent presentation by Devlin Kuyek of the non-profit GRAIN who sets out the corporate agenda behind carbon farming.

      One of the first major digital agriculture platforms is called Climate FieldView, an app owned by Bayer. It collects data from satellites and sensors in fields and on tractors and then uses algorithms to advise farmers on their farming practices: when and what to plant, how much pesticide to spray, how much fertiliser to apply, etc. FieldView is already being used on farms in the US, Canada, Brazil, Argentina and Europe.

      To be part of Bayer’s Carbon Program, farmers have to be enrolled in Bayer’s FieldView digital agriculture platform. Bayer then uses the FieldView app to instruct farmers on the implementation of just two practices that are said to sequester carbon in the soils: reduced tillage or no-till farming and the planting of cover crops.

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    Ross

    This story about the Wuhan lab and Gain of Function research just gets recycled around about every 6 months. Or so it seems. I can remember back in 2020 and reading via social media contacts how the US were doing GOF work at this lab and so it was highly likely that’s where COVId ( SARS CoV2 ) escaped from. Back when most of the media were still talking about the wet market and making jokes about bat soup. So, ” they” think every now and then that waters must be muddied, to keep them from being prosecuted. Basically it’s just one big information war and backsides are being protected big time.

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    Dennis

    Interesting, Russia is planning to build a new Embassy in Canberra located alongside the Communist China Embassy and the Commonwealth Government is challenging to development application.

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    Leo G

    When the funding bombed, they claim they didn’t do the experiment, but somehow, by strange coincidence, when SARS-2 appeared it had a furin cleavage site.

    As did the Omicron variant, a strain from a phylogenic branch of the SARS-CoV tree below the SARS-CoV-2 (Wuhan) branch.

    Implication- the Omicron pandemic emerged from a lab, likely the same lab which first introduced the furin cleavage site into a SARS virus from which SARS-CoV-2 emerged.

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      Leo where have you seen the Omicron variant traced to pre Wuhan viruses? As far as I know there are no “pre Wuhan” viruses — which is a big problem for the “natural infection” team.

      Omicron may be a lab rehash but genetically according to Nextstrain it came from clade 20B (June 2020)

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        Leo G

        Nextstrain classifies according to genetic relatedness and not sequential lineage. The PANGO equivalent is B.1.1.529 with a notional linkage to B-1.1.

        Various phylogenic analyses have shown that Omicron has no clear basal pregenitor, that it has a distinctive mutational profile compared with the Wuhan strain (N=65) with 16 deletions and 3 insertions with most (39) localised in the spike.

        Researchers have been constrained to accepting the Wuhan virus originated from a natural zoonotic mutation in Wuhan. That assumption is no longer reasonable.

        Quoting an NHMRC review article (Shrestha et al July 2022):

        Omicron was first identified on mid‐November 2021, in South Africa and was designated as a VOC on 26th November 2021. Retrospective analysis revealed that Omicron was present in Europe 10 days before its discovery in South Africa with no obvious transmission link between the two locations

        No analysis of SARS‐CoV‐2 sequences has found any close intermediary sequences between Omicron and its closest relatives.
        The most reasonable explanation is that Omicron and the Wuhan strain have a common pregenitor.

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      Elijahschallenge.net

      What if Omicron strain emerged after the injected persons immune system processed the toxic load in the blood, and behold the emergence of the exosome, cellular activity through signal transduction the exosomes now large scale activity so called virus omicron variant. Endogenous not Exogenous, the virus came from within the cell not from outside the cell.

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        All viruses come from “within the cell”. That is the only way they are made.

        While Omicron’s emergence in Africa leaves some open questions as to it’s origin, it has all the same genes to construct the normal virion shell with spikes that previous variants did — it just carries some more mutations. Omicron is not an exosome.

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    Anton

    The Sunday Times Insight team has done cutting-edge journalism for decades. Here is its equally heavyweight article from 14th August 2021 on how China subverted the World Health Organisation in the decade prior to Sars-CoV-2 (and it’s not behind any paywall):

    https://archive.ph/20210814171128/https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/china-the-who-and-the-powergrab-that-fuelled-a-pandemic-3mt05m06n

    It leaves me a little confused, because chapter 9 of Robert F Kennedy Jr’s book The Real Anthony Fauci makes the case that Bill Gates is the real lead singer (i.e. secret controller) of the WHO, and his interests are not identical to China’s. If I had to pick I’d go with the Sunday Times team, but more information would be helpful.

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    Philip

    Can someone tell me what is gain of function research?

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      KP

      You take genes from one virus, or a bacteria, or even synthesise them, and add them to a second organism to give it better characteristics you are looking for.

      More lethal, more easily spread, attacking a different part of the body… thousands of characteristics to investigate and play with. All the drugs and biomolecules we grow in vats using bacteria are produced by gain of function research, although these days the meaning is more ‘gain of bad function’ as weaponry.

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        Phillip — you asked the most pertinent question. Gain of Function is the word salad used to describe dangerous experiments that increase the pathogenicity of a virus — where we give a virus a genetic tool it didn’t already have — usually from some other virus.

        But the definition is so vague I have seen discussions where people point out that GoF can only be “known” to have occurred after the fact. Thus there are not really any true GoF experiments, only safe experiments that work out badly.

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    NOEngineer

    I have long believed that the roll-out of COVID was intentional with the primary purpose to hamstring Donald Trump and allow the theft of the 2020 election and prevent MAGA. The speed and intensity with which our media focused on Covid and Wuhan is unprecedented in my experience, and indicates pre-planning. The diaspora of Chinese infected persons via Italy and California to infect US travelers from both coasts was perfect, all while limiting travel within China. New Orleans was an early hot spot due to New York travelers visiting the Super Bowl then Mardi Gras, for example. The preparation of extralegal voting system changes (as detailed in the Time Magazine confession) and implemented while everyone focused on Covid created the actual election theft. This never could have happened without the virus, the media hype and the social isolation response which we now know was ineffective. A bold plan, and it barely worked. The fact that the 2020 election was close enough to require swing state vote manipulation has necessitated the lawfare against Trump and the January 6th crowd.

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    Phil O'Sophical

    It’s got to the stage now where I have a conspiracy theory about a conspiracy theory.
    I guess I will be ridiculed but nothing appears in The Times without sanction. It is no coincidence that, just as too much inconvenient info is coming out, the worried powers once again need to re-focus everyone on the Chinese. Look over here. Squirrels.

    My view now is that the bioweapon is not a virus but the Jab. Two epic presentations seen together make the point:

    David Martin’s 20minute tour de force in the European Parliament, of all the unlikely places, detailing the developmental history of the jabs going back to the 1960s.

    Denis Rancourt’s 50minute testimony/presentation to the NCI (National Citizen’s Inquiry) in Canada. It is quite long for viewing statistics, but once he gets into his stride it is mesmerising with killer (unfortunate word in this context) observations at regular points. All based on published excess deaths from many countries, but especially the USA. He finds (illustrated with excellent graphics) apparent massive local death spikes appearing impossibly simultaneously in various locations around the world. He finds a ‘virus’ that impossibly refused to cross the border between Spain and Portugal or Spain and France or Italy and neighbours, and would not enter Germany at all. And how about 3.7m people, primarily sick and/or elderly killed (his word) by the jab in India? His conclusion is shocking (to those who have not been keeping up and those still not awake): based on excess deaths there was no pandemic, but 13m deaths worldwide to date down to the jabs; and Heaven knows how many will occur from the delayed time-bomb effects seeded in the recipients.

    And the perps even tell us they want to reduce the population. Bioweapon it is indeed.

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      It’s the same spike in both vax and virus.

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        KP

        “It’s the same spike in both vax and virus.”

        True, but the methods of delivery and reproduction are so different. The virus trigger an immune response from landing on the surface cells in your nose or throat, quite different to having un-natural lipids injected into your body.

        At the other end, I’ve never seen an explanation of how the synthetic spike protein get to the cell wall to hang out there, while the natural virus lyses the cell to release fully encapsulated virion particles. The effects on the body must be quite different if we knew what to look for.

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          KP, ’tis true that the lipid nano particles may deliver the virus and the lipids to other tissues preferentially, but I’ve also seen suggestions that the virus gets into every tissue anyway.

          I’m not saying they have identical effects, but if the bioweapon is in the spike then it’s in both vaccine and virus.

          https://www.nature.com/articles/s41586-022-05542-y

          We show that SARS-CoV-2 is widely distributed, predominantly among patients who died with severe COVID-19, and that virus replication is present in multiple respiratory and non-respiratory tissues, including the brain, early in infection. Further, we detected persistent SARS-CoV-2 RNA in multiple anatomic sites, including throughout the brain, as late as 230 days following symptom onset in one case.

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          Kalm Keith

          Interesting comment KP.

          It shows the important thing about analysing any problem or system, namely, to look at the bigger, macroscopic picture first and then move in from there.

          Too often when people analyse systems they go deep into microscopic detail and ignore processes at the macro level which clearly counter the relevance of that “deep dive”.

          The point you make here is that our respiratory systems have an inbuilt, highly developed defence capacity that helps protect us when we inhale the nasties.
          The injections however are placing stuff directly and unnaturally into our unprepared inner selves and that’s not only unnatural but dangerous.

          Top down analysis could save us from chasing up a lot of pointless rabbit holes.

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    Nicholas (Unlicensed Joker) Gray

    I have often wondered if the CCP released the virus to harm the American economy. Trump, and the Republicans, had been doing well in the polls because the economy was doing well. Then the virus came along. Goodbye Trump!

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    mwhite

    https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8529295/

    “Unexpected detection of SARS-CoV-2 antibodies in the prepandemic period in Italy”

    Spread around the world in 2019.

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      Kalm Keith

      Lots of Chinese workers were moving freely in and out of Italy with few border controls and the focus of the outbreak was the Chinese hub/workzone in Italy.
      Possibly much of the cheap labour going to that work zone was basically undocumented and of unknown health.

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    Mike

    Right from the beginning I saw the Covid origin thing as a 1 question IQ test. If you actually believed Covid originated naturally right next door to a high level biolab that specifically studies bat viruses and gain of function research then your IQ is below 100.

    It is a rough test but very accurate.

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    Steve

    Honestly though, It’s not a very good bio weapon is it ?
    It’s the vax that’s the real danger and the associated clamp downs on our freedoms.

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    Elijahschallenge.net

    A living organism needs to take in nutrients, make proteins and expel waste. If a virus is not doing these functions is it living and how can it magically high jack cellular mechanisms, what if a virus was just an excretion of a cell, the expulsion of waste. What if sarscov2 never existed, but just in the minds of people from published hype of dogma perpetuated by the media. What if sarscov2 was just a code, what if this code was injected and engineered to synthesise production of a so called spike protein that travels in the blood and just causes inflammation wherever the blood flows, 2 billion nano particles producing inflammation with no off switch, what if the same nano particles could alter dna and turn off certain immune functions, would this inflammation improve or reduce brain function and immune deactivation make people healthier or sicker, what if the vaccine was a bio weapon. How do I spell pharmaceutical holocaust.

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      No conspiracy needed. All viruses are just codes, not living organisms. They don’t metabolise, they don’t breathe. They are effectively a dumb but complex rock on a benchtop until they get inside a cell where the code triggers production of copies of the code.

      If the spike is the bioweapon it’s in the vax and the virus.

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    Elijahschallenge.net

    Dr David E Martin was right all along, Bioweapon. So if the Government of all countries lead we the people up the garden path for 3 years, WHO is responsible for this co ordinated effort, did each politician and health care spokesperson come up with this narrative individually or did meetings take place in certain board and meeting rooms and filter down from there, and did the World Economic Forum influence these meetings, does the United Nations and WEF have any accountability for foreign influence in Australian politics. Are Australian politicians accountable for Treason in enacting foreign policy in Australia. What if people loose faith in the medical system now, in the political system, the financial system. I guess they will all have to go to [snip “trial”] and we the people start from scratch.

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