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Trump closing the deal: “The only thing that can stop this corrupt force is you — the American people”

A brilliant, polished, excellent advert — cuts like a sabre to the only point that matters.

h/t to the great Scott Adams, who says:

1. Trump delivers his lines perfectly, like an experienced actor. We haven’t heard him like this before. You probably didn’t think he had this in him. He stays calm and assured, but not cocky. That is an effective counter-framing to Clinton’s framing of Trump as an unpredictable madman. Here Trump comes off as perfectly reasonable and deeply empathetic.

2. The timing is perfect. This race went so low that even the trolls were starting to gasp for oxygen. Trump made us wait for relief – Hollywood style. He made us crave civility and sanity. And just when we thought it was out of reach, he goes ultra-positive.

But here’s the best part. Clinton has no good options to counter this message.

Countering that, Wikileaks founder Julian Assange says Trump won’t be allowed to win:

My analysis is that Trump would not be permitted to win. Why do I say that? Because he has had every establishment off his side. Trump does not have one establishment, maybe with the exception of the Evangelicals, if you can call them an establishment. Banks, intelligence, arms companies, foreign money, etc. are all united behind Hillary Clinton. And the media as well. Media owners, and the journalists themselves.

h/t David

UPDATE: Out of context, Assange’s reads like a wild conspiracy and I don’t believe the election outcome is predetermined. But his point about the establishment is valid — Trump battles the mainstream media (only 6 newspapers endorse him, the lowest ever), both political party machines (see the Republicans against Trump), and Wall Street which has donated 30 times as much to Clinton as it has to Trump. The big-money end of town is with her: Billionaires are backing Hillary at a ratio of  20 to 1.  We know some vote-rigging occurs (and has been documented in previous elections) — but we don’t know how much. We do know that the Democrats don’t want to do anything to stop it. At the highest levels Clinton supporters brag about cheating on as many votes as they can.

On Trump’s side apparently are FBI agents who are fed up with corruption, the PayPal founder,  Immigration And Customs Enforcement Officers (ICE) Make First-Ever Presidential Endorsement and a lot of very small donors.

The establishment players have trillions of dollars staked on the election, and 3 decades of schmoozing. Trump threatens all that. Can the people beat the corruption?

UPDATE:  To the NeverTrumpers from a Sympathizer, by Paul Rahe.

Think about what else we have now — a press corps that colludes with a campaign, allowing figures in the Clinton campaign to edit what they publish. Television reporters who send the questions apt to be asked at the presidential debates to one campaign. A media that is totally in the tank for one party, downplaying or suppressing news that might make trouble for that party, inventing false stories about the candidates nominated by the other party, managing the news, manipulating the public, promoting in the party not favored the nomination of a clown, protecting the utterly corrupt nominee of the other party from scrutiny.

Let’s add to this the fact that the Democratic Party is intent on opening our borders and on signing up illegal aliens to vote. If you do not believe me, read what Wikileaks has revealed about the intentions of Tony Podesta. Barack Obama promised to “fundamentally change America.” He called his administration “The New Foundation.” Well, all that you have to do to achieve this is to alter the population.

To this, I can add something else. Freedom of speech is under attack. Forty-four Senators, all of them Democrats, voted not long ago for an amendment to the Constitution that would hem in the First Amendment. Ostensibly aimed at corporate speech, this would open the doors to the regulation of all speech. The Democratic members of the Federal Election Commission have pressed for regulating the internet — for treating blogposts as political contributions and restricting them. Members of the Civil Rights Commission have argued that freedom of speech and religious freedom must give way to social justice.

h/t David

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184 comments to Trump closing the deal: “The only thing that can stop this corrupt force is you — the American people”

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    Amber

    Take your country back USA . The establishment has gagged the Department of Justice and
    the FBI will be next . This is the Alamo 2016 . The corrupt establishment and media have been exposed and they will not react well .
    If the Democrats gets in the people having the courage to defend and protect the rights of the Constitution
    will be infiltrated and undermined to ensure no one gets this close again .
    Take your country back . Your vote has never meant more .

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      OriginalSteve

      Kennedy stood up to the establishment and got a bullet for his trouble….

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      Dennis

      Socialist Democrats trading as Social Democrats.

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      PeterS

      I’m not certain if there is any truth in the news I’m reading on various web-sties but it appears people behind the scenes in the FBI, CIA, NSA, NYPD, and many other agencies (15 in total according to some) are all working together to prepare water tight documents that will allow Clinton to be arrested for treason, corruption, voter fraud and numerous other offenses over the next few days. It’s a sort of soft-coup and the reason they are doing this is simply they are sick and tired of the mess caused by the Clintons and they don’t want it to continue, especially if she ends up in the oval office. It all sounds too good to be true but we will find out soon enough. In some ways I hope it isn’t true because if it is then when the official news comes out it might lead to too much civil unrest.

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        Ian

        Better a little civil unrest when such unrest might be possible, lest it becomes too late and civil unrest becomes impossible.

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        Owen Morgan

        Once Hillary is inaugurated, there is no constitutional obstruction to her pardoning herself. This whole campaign, for her, has been a race for immunity from prosecution, just as Chirac’s was in France in 2002. The French president can’t be prosecuted in office; the US one possibly can, but only theoretically.

        As president, Clinton could simply shut down any investigation whatever. She wouldn’t even need a serf as pliant as Loretta Lynch for that.

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    KinkyKeith

    There is little point going over all of the reasons why Trump has been pushed by disgruntled voters to this amazing situation:

    cronyism of the highest order, profiteering from hard won tax dollars, borrowing against the future earnings of voters to

    fund “deserving” causes, rendering the media a tool of the Elites and then the destruction of science, the avarice and greed

    shown in the Great Financial Crisis we know it all.

    The exciting thing is that the people feel that democracy is still working and there may be a chance of a better future.

    Go The People.

    KK

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      Yonniestone

      I was at a public gathering today of very disgruntled voters that fully supported the sentiments of Donald Trump, I hope we get our own Trump soon and I believe it will happen.

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      BJ

      <blockquoteThe exciting thing is that the people feel that democracy is still working and there may be a chance of a better future.

      Go The People.

      The Brexit phenomenon in a nutshell; and the reason Trump may well win.

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      Rereke Whakaaro

      If nothing else, Trump has forced Clinton to double-down, and then double-down again.

      Each time she does that, the coverup lies get more transparent.

      I thnk the pollsters are being told the standard Clinton line, when working people are asked survey questions. But nobody has bought them off with anything but promises, that the working people know will never be delivered on. At the end of the day, they will vote for the person that they see as the most honest candidate.

      I hear that the number of people wanting to change an early vote is unprecidented, in this election. That has to be a good indication.

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        OriginalSteve

        Ironically, the Guardian is singing an interesting tune today:

        https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2016/nov/04/enemies-of-the-people-british-newspapers-react-judges-brexit-ruling

        I think its better to lodge an appeal than call judges “enemies of the people” , however I think the newspaper is just saying what everyone else is thinking.

        the Elite will have to decide if they really want this fight ( the people vs the globalists ) or not – The Elite can easily create a war / terrorist attack / etc somewhere as a distraction if the heat on the Establishment gets too much……

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          Egor TheOne

          “the Elite will have to decide if they really want this fight ( the people vs the globalists ) or not – The Elite can easily create a war / terrorist attack / etc somewhere as a distraction if the heat on the Establishment gets too much……”

          When all else fails, the Elite(mongrels and scum), take you to war.

          The little people(everybody else) are only to serve as great big taxpayers and cannon fodder.

          If Fuhrer Hitlery wins, then expect more of the same and worse, much worse….
          Such a fiasco would also enbolden the ‘Unelected Nutters’ with their Totalitarian World Government and the enforcement of Ratbag policy such as CAGW medievalism.

          Trump must win, or the chance may be lost forever to rid the world of the vermin Marxist ideology propagated by the ‘elite(ratbag)’ global infestation.

          If not, then freedom will exist only in the past tense.

          Its time to clean out political corruption, global bankism, state funded propaganda outlets, and in particular ‘born to rule’ psychotics such as the criminal Clintons.

          This lunacy in global, not just the USA.

          If the Donald wins, then freedom will go on the offensive eventually spreading globally from the USA.

          There is much more at stake here than just another election.

          “we came, we saw, He died,hehehehe” cannot be allowed to assume the most powerful political position on the planet!

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    MadJak

    Jo,

    I keep drawing parallels between what is happening now and what was happening in the first 14 years of the 20th century. >100 years ago the people of the western world were discovering the corruption and severe arrogance, incompetence and negligence of the monarchies of Europe. Now it is becoming harder for the same attributes to be hidden in democracies around the world.

    With the descent or apparent weakness of one empire, others scramble to seize the opportunity to be top dog. I am seeing the same naive comments people tell each other to reassure them that war won’t break out It’ll be too damaging to trade – well guess what, if war starts you’re in a wartime economy and trade considerations take a back seat buddy. Right now I am seeing countries choosing sides, sabre rattling, gunboat diplomacy and frustration leaking out from leaders across the world. In many respects I wonder if the world might be a safer place if the US didn’t have elections anymore.

    And now we have two US presidential candidates who have slung so much crap at each other (both real and manufactures), I don’t see how either can garnish respect or even the impression of integrity – and without that I cannot see cohesive leadership in either candidate.

    If Trump wins, I expect that with the FBIs help he will expose a lot of skeletons in the cupboard. It will lead to more division and fracturing, but more transparency (if he last long enough without doing or saying something stupid). If Clinton wins, I suspect there will be more of the same elitist corruption and like this election will have parallels to the Russian 1905 attempted revolution. With another stronger one coming later.

    Regardless of who wins this election, the winners of this election will be the cryptocurrencies. Not gold guns and oil now, cryptocurrencies are the superior form of currency with more security and transparency than the existing backing systems with FIAT money.

    That’s my 2c worth. I sure hope I’m wrong, but my gut hasn’t been badly timed yet.

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      BJ

      The similarities with the final decay of the European monarchies are quite starting.

      Also, if you accept the theory of the five stages of civilization:

      Mixture
      Gestation
      Expansion
      Age of Conflict
      Universal Empire
      Decay
      Invasion

      Then Europe and the US are both clearly in a state of convergence of the final two stages; and Australia isn’t far behind. There are too many people now who haven’t seen, or been taught about, the true face and outcomes of socialism, and the West is being hollowed out by political corruption and social outcomes resulting from the uncontrolled immigration and the associated obsession with political correctness and racism.

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        MadJak

        Bj,

        Agreed, and add further into the mix that there are very few people alive today who have experienced real hardship or total war. Those generations (the great generation) have largely passed away. So now we have generations of leaders with no Leadership skills who have never actually experienced real hardship – and even their advisors haven’t either.

        I for one, Cannot see any real examples of leadership in the Australian political system. All I see are self serving empty suits most of the time – all trying to “Fake it til they make it”. The problem is that they just keep faking it, because that’s the easiest route.

        This was a leading cause of the GFC (which isn’t over yet, trust me on that one). People’s values and risk balance are out of whack. Also, the more talk of war that I have been seeing, the more inevitable it tends to become – people start to be talked into it and that process started years ago.

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          Phil R

          OT, but cool avatar.

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          Rereke Whakaaro

          There has not been a time in the last century, when professional troops from one country, have not been at war with professional troops from an opposing country.

          Mankind, like the other great apes, is naturally aggressive in protection of their own social groupings, and in keeping or taking resources, that they see as being rightfully theirs.

          No social experimentation in homogenising or attempting to meld social groupings, under centralised control, can change that. Mankind is just not wired that way.

          Being passive-agressive as a lot of progressives are, is still a form of agression, which eventually calls for a push-back from those on the receiving end.

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      OriginalSteve

      YOu may be right, although I think that if the election is stolen by the establishment and their electronic voting machines, the people will know its a fix up….roll on American revolution no. 2

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        Lawrie

        Original Steve,

        It seems the voting machines are superior to paper ballots and far more difficult to scam. Allowing aliens to vote is also a huge problem, one allowed by Obama and his Democrats. Think the ALP and see how they ignore the norms and use whatever it takes to win and win for the power never the good of the country.

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          Spetzer86

          And with voting machines, what’s left for a recount and how are the counts performed? Soros owned and operated voting machines might make Volkswagen look squeaky clean and who’d catch them at it?

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          Egor TheOne

          “Think the ALP and see how they ignore the norms and use whatever it takes to win and win for the power never the good of the country.”

          Bang on the money! Especially ‘the Greens’!
          That why they are fanatical pro refugees…legal,illegal, doesn’t matter to them, because they are seen as vote imports.

          Exactly what El Presidente O’Bummer did in the US….’Vote Imports’, the real objective.

          The Leftoids mantra: what ever it takes to win: with ethics,morality,honesty,integrity and such all trodden on if necessary and without a blink of the eye or a second thought!

          How Presidential!

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      Gail Combs

      “(if he last long enough without doing or saying something stupid)”

      It would seem you have swallowed the MSM psy-ops painting Trump as a brash clumbsy bragart.

      Never forget that Trump is 70 years old with an IQ of 156 and has built very successful businesses via negotiating deals all over the world. (He started out with a LOAN from his father just as his father started with a family loan.)

      You do not do that by saying something stupid.

      Trump is very quick to learn and surrounds himself with winners. Heck he had Nigel Farrage coach him on debating techniques before the debates and did quite well considering Hillary had the question before hand and was reading off scripted answers written by a team.

      Will Trump be unconventional?
      Oh yes, but do not mistake that for him not thinking out several steps ahead. I have followed this election closely and every time someone thinks Trump has made a misstep it turns out they are wrong to the point that the chant is “Let Trump be Trump.” Among his followers.

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        Gail,

        unrelated to this, but I noticed your comment about what our children might be watching on TV, and you linked to a Katy Perry song. Yuk!

        However, watch out for the weekend Unthreaded Post here at Joanne’s site, and I’m going to link to a song from the 50′s, along similar lines.

        That is if Joanne will be having an Unthreaded this weekend. (Hint hint)

        Tony.

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        Egor TheOne

        Great comments!
        I agree 100%

        I am yet to see a stupid Billionaire!

        A stupid politician, yes especially the leftoid politicians, they’re a dime a dozen, and the creators of all the world’s grief, without exception.

        A successful business man at billionaire level that will fight for the people is EXACTLY what is needed.

        Will he do what he says? ‘Drain the Swamp’?

        All the ‘Elites’(both closet and brazen criminal individuals and organisations) think so, or they would not be against him.
        And why? Because they are the Swamp of Corruption he refers to.
        All panicking as even the rigged poles draw close, as is obvious by the increasing feral comments lead by the paid off presstitutes.

        The Donald for the White House, the Clintons for the Out House!

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        AndyG55

        You can see from the comments of the far-left idea-logs like phloptheguuk, Trump has them totally FOOLED !!

        Didn’t take all that much work, either. ;-)

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        PeterPetrum

        Gail, you are quite correct. I wonder how many of those that call Trump “stupid” or a “clown” or worse (and it’s not just Fairfax journos that do this, Paul Kelly called him a “mug menace” in the Weekend Oz) have actually listened to his speeches. Many months ago he certainly used the “wow” factor to get attention, and he did. The Clinton media fell over themselves to publicise what he said and to vilify him, but what great publicity, all for no cost, and it was just what so many Americans wanted to hear. I said to my wife then (who was a bit sceptical) just wait until he is on the home straight – he will be a different person. And he is – he presents well, his timing and modulation is perfect and he speaks sense. He is clearly no fool, but has played the media and his critics for the unmitigated fools that they are.

        Go Trump!°

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    Lord Jim

    Clinton should never have run for election and never would have been able to do so if the DOJ had not been covering for her.

    More red pilling from Hector Morenco:

    1. This election is about Making America Great Again, Independent Again, Wealthy Again, & Unified Again.

    2. The reason for the Iraq war was Saddam Hussein’s 2000 decision to price Iraqi oil in Euros instead of dollars.

    3. The United States can only run massive trade & balance of payment deficits if the price of oil is denominated ONLY in dollars.

    4. The petrodollar motivates the rest of the world to hold dollars in reserve accounts so that they can use those Dollars to pay for oil.

    5. When Saddam announced in November 2000 that Iraqi oil would priced in EUROs instead of Dollars US debt was 5.6 trillion.

    6. This meant America had to reduce its debt to avoid a currency collapse resulting other countries dumping their Dollar reserves.

    7. But then On 9/11, Osama bin Laden the leader of al-Qaeda, coordinated an attack on America, bringing down the WTC.

    8. Dick Cheney, George Bush, & the neocons used the 9/11 attack as an opportunity to overthrow Saddam and restore the petrodollar standard.

    9. The war spiraled out of control, destabilizing the entire region, costing trillions of dollars, millions of people dead & refugees.

    10. After the Iraq war our debt doubled from 5.6 trillion to over 10 trillion making us even more dependent on the petrodollar dynamic.

    11. In 2009 the Tamar gas field is discovered & Qatar wanted to build a pipeline through Syria to sell the gas in the European market.

    12. Assad rejected the Qatar proposal because they wanted, to protect their Russian ally, which is Europe’s top supplier of petroleum.

    13. Qatar leveraged its ongoing relationship with HRC by cashing in on the many millions of dollars in bribes it gave over the years.

    14. HRC as Sec State used the CIA to fund an operation called the “Free Syrian Army” to overthrow Assad which lead to ISIS & Refugee Crisis.

    15. These behind the scenes correspondence outlining our national debt/petrodollar dilemma is why HRC used a private server.

    16. Hillary’s emails also detail that she took advantage of her Sec. State position to launder money through the Clinton foundation.

    17. In 2011 Gaddafi planned to sell Libyan oil sold in another currency backed by gold, which would have caused a US dollar collapse.

    18. But because of US national debt & our dependence on petrodollars we had no choice but to kill him and destroy another country.

    19. In March 2012 Iran announced it was going to use a basket of currencies to price its oil rather than dollars.

    20. Obama/HRC unable to wage war against Iran and topple them, they sent John Kerry to negotiate the Iran Deal.

    21. The Iran deal put ME in jeopardy of Nukes from Iran & blackmailed Gulf States into pricing their oil with dollars for protection.

    22. In a world saturated by debt, and where organic growth is no longer possible, there is only one remaining option. War.

    23. We’re caught in a web of debt & petrodollar dependence & HRC will set us on a collision course with World War III against Russia & Iran.

    24. Trump’s energy plan is our only & last best hope of avoiding this shit! We don’t have four more years. We’ll be dead in four years!

    https://twitter.com/hectormorenco

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      Mike

      25. “The Clinton Foundation has confirmed it accepted a $1 million gift from Qatar while Hillary Clinton was U.S. secretary of state without informing the State Department, even though she signed an “ethics agreement” to do just that.”

      “Hillary Accepted Qatar Money Without Notifying Government, While She Was Head Of State Dept”

      http://www.zerohedge.com/node/576566

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    UPDATE: to clarify…
    Out of context, Assange’s reads like a wild conspiracy and I don’t believe the election outcome is predetermined. But his point about the establishment is valid — Trump battles the mainstream media (only 6 newspapers endorse him, the lowest ever), both political party machines (see the Republicans against Trump), and Wall Street which has donated 30 times as much to Clinton as it has to Trump. The big-money end of town is with her: Billionaires are backing Hillary at a ratio of 20 to 1. We know some vote-rigging occurs (and has been documented in previous elections) — but we don’t know how much. We do know that the Democrats don’t want to do anything to stop it. At the highest levels Clinton supporters brag about cheating on as many votes as they can.

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      BJ

      We certainly know that there is a willingness at the DNC to cheat, and in fact do worse; I suppose the question is could the cheating be that sophisticated and ambitious that it extends into rigging voting machines. It sounds too much, but once you cross the line into electoral fraud, who know where it ends.

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        If you could stop Hitler by rigging a voting machine, wouldn’t you….?

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          tom0mason

          If the majority are contentedly disinterested in politics, and wish to stay willfully uninformed about the candidates, as they vote their freedoms away, who, if anyone, should be allowed to stop them from registering their vote accurately.

          Surely in a democracy the dictates of the majority must be obeyed even if the outcome corrupts the basis of that democracy? We appear to be moving from democracy to a cantankocracy, or is there still something meaningful in having a written constitution?

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          Mark D.

          If you could stop Hitler by rigging a voting machine, wouldn’t you….?

          NO! a very slippery slope there for sure.

          Anyway it doesn’t apply here IMHO. It would also be the same kind of reasoning the Deep Left would use against anyone they oppose

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            OriginalSteve

            The deep left murdered the Romanovs to take power in Russia – we should never forget how awful communism is……

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            PhilJourdan

            And the left would then brand you a Hitler lover. The reason (which I agree with) is immaterial, just the smear that counts.

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          doubtingdave

          in other words JO , it does not matter if you commit fraud , break the law or lie etc , providing its for a good cause , we can only change that by having an education system that teachers critical thinking skills and the ability to use logic and reason

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          Harry Passfield

          Jo, I refer you to Thomas More’s defence in his trial (A Man For All Seasons):

          William Roper: So, now you give the Devil the benefit of law!

          Sir Thomas More: Yes! What would you do? Cut a great road through the law to get after the Devil?

          William Roper: Yes, I’d cut down every law in England to do that!

          Sir Thomas More: Oh? And when the last law was down, and the Devil turned ’round on you, where would you hide, Roper, the laws all being flat? This country is planted thick with laws, from coast to coast, Man’s laws, not God’s! And if you cut them down, and you’re just the man to do it, do you really think you could stand upright in the winds that would blow then? Yes, I’d give the Devil benefit of law, for my own safety’s sake!

          Sadly, the war that followed did not manage to curb Hitler’s vile extremes. Unfortunately, the lesson has not been learned and another tyrant is in the mix – with a skilled (billionaire) puppet-master to back her up.

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          Ross

          Jo

          Have you and David watched the video at the bottom of this piece ? I’d be interested in either of your comments on whether it seems to stack up. It seems to be a mixture of IT and maths expertise is needed to verify it.

          http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-11-04/hacker-guccifer-20-warns-he-has-info-inside-fec-democrats-may-rig-elections

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          BJ

          Your hypothetical suffers from a number of problems:

          First, there is a moral element and imperative introduced by the knowledge of what Hitler went on to do, none of which was really apparent to the German voters at the time of the elections in 1931 and 1933.

          Second, Hitler only won one election, in 1933, which was after the fire in the Reichstag and the NAZI had effectively seized power outside the electoral process. The NAZI got 47% of the vote in the 1933 but it was the ultimate rigged election; even if you could have outrigged the NAZI it wouldn’t have changed the outcome. Prior to the 1933, Hitler lost the 1931 Presidential election, and in elections before that the NAZI certainly got votes but they weren’t anywhere close to power.

          Short point; the NAZI didn’t come to power by a real or valid electoral process. People love to use Hitler in posing moral dilemmas but it is really ignoring the true history, and for that reason I don’t think it a valid question.

          That said, and putting the history to one side, addressing the theoretical burdened as it is with the moral elements:

          If Hitler is rigging, then the reality is I would try to do the same, because then we are at least on a vaguely equal footing; but we aren’t talking about a real electoral process. There is no point taking a moral stand and refusing to rig if the inevitable consequence is the rise to power of someone who will go on to be responsible for the deaths of 10s of millions of people. But with that knowledge and in that situation you could make a fair argument for far more direct action to solve the problem.

          But the choice is never really that stark is it? At the elections in Germany, no one really knew of the excesses to come, and if you take that element out, then question is a very different one. In the latter scenario, my answer changes and I wouldn’t rig; but then again I am conservative and see the value in people abiding by the law, and not a fan of ‘realpolitik’.

          Translated to today; the actions of the DNC and its operatives are symptomatic of the tribalisation of modern politics, the decay of moral and ethical standards in the DNC and some of the people who support it, a growing intolerance for people who have reasonable but different views on matters of politics and society and, most of all, political corruption that rewards insiders. I am not foolish enough to think that all of the same things don’t happen in the GOP, because they almost certainly do, but in this election the choice is quite stark; honest people should not vote for Clinton.

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            BJ

            Sorry, I didn’t finish; wife and daughter demanding my attention.

            To summarise; I don’ think following the DNC and the Clintons down the path of electoral fraud, voter intimidation by provoking and perpetrating violence at opponents rallies and all of the other things that Wikileaks has revealed is the proper response. Let’s face it, if we fight fire with fire then the winner will always be the most successful fraudster, and if we want to preserve the best of the Western Democracies then we need to reject those people and their actions; which would be a whole lot easier if the MSM ceased being bought and paid for boosters and went back to reporting plain facts. I like to think that that is still possible but I am really not so sure now; and for some time I have been saying that we living the decline and ultimate fall of the West.

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            BJ

            And to continue the NAZI analogy; the things we know that the DNC are doing and pretty well the same tactics used by the NAZI during the years they were participating in elections.

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          Egor TheOne

          Jo, I think Tyrants get into power because of vote rigging, not get voted out because of vote rigging.

          That is, how many tyrants get voted out?

          Or, if you get voted out, then how can you be a tyrant.

          Tyrants don’t lend themselves to being voted out!

          The point about Hitler was that no one new what he would do when he was still vote outable!
          In fact pre-war, i think he was considered a national hero!

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          Rereke Whakaaro

          That is naughty Jo.

          Hitler only gained his reputation through what transpired after his election to Chancellor.

          Prior to his election, he was seen as being the only person with the potential to lift Germany out of the moribund economy resulting from the “Great War”.

          In fact, thinking about it, there is some parallel with Trump …

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            Manfred

            For general interest.

            The March 5th 1933 election held in Nazi Germany was the last election to be held under Hitler’s rule. Hitler may well have expected the election to have resulted in an overwhelming Nazi victory but he was wrong. The Nazi Party got less than 50% of the votes cast by 39 million voters. Other right wing parties pushed the vote for the right to just over 50% but it was not the result Hitler would have wanted in the election as it showed that many were still not in support of what the Nazis were trying to achieve. This may well have been one of the reasons why the Enabling Act was passed as such an act meant that Nazi Germany no longer needed elections when the word of the Fuhrer became law within 24 hours of pen being put to paper.

            Enabling Act of March 1933 was formally known as the ‘law to remedy the distress of the people and the nation’.

            Article 2 of The Act: Laws enacted by the government of the Reich may deviate from the constitution as long as they do not affect the institutions of the Reichstag and the Reichsrat. The rights of the President remain undisturbed.

            Article 3 of The Act: Laws enacted by the Reich government shall be issued by the Chancellor and announced in the Reich Gazette. They shall take effect on the day following the announcement, unless they prescribe a different date. Articles 68 to 77 of the constitution do not apply to laws enacted by the Reich government.

            When a university lecturer claimed that her dog could say the words ‘Adolf Hitler’ when the dog saw a photograph of the Führer, it was accepted. Even good weather was known as ‘Führer Weather’.

            If the DEMS cross the line, rigged or otherwise, there is historical precedent for what may happen next.

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      OriginalSteve

      see my comment above

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      Dennis

      Probably not pre-determined, but the evidence of vote manipulation in past US elections, the whatever it takes Socialist Democrats’ MO including organising riots at Trump meetings and trotting out an unbelievable parade of women from decades past claiming to have been badly treated by Trump who never made complaints before, the Muslim Brotherhood member and Clinton supporter who confronted Trump about the death of the attacker’s son while he was in the US Military, and much more mud slinging does give Trump very good reasons to be wary about how the election is conducted.

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      MadJak

      Jo,

      IT’s worth noting that just like with Brexit, Many people will vote trump because they’re either voting for the first time in something they feel represented in and/or they will vote for trump but never admit it.

      It is this effect which meant that even the Brexit Leaders didn’t even think they had won on the night when they had, in fact, allready done so.

      Close polling means a trump win.

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      Richard Ilfeld

      The reason for the heightened animosity is brute simple, and as true in OZ as in the US.

      Half a century ago, if you lost the Federal election, you would say to the winner “OK, we lost, go to the capital, do what you do,
      leave us the hell alone, and we’ll see you in four years.” This was possible with a govt consuming single digit shares of the GDP and doing mostly Govt. appropriate
      things.

      We are not permitted to say “leave us the hell alone” any more. A federal government chooses to make so many messes that our life is impinged each day
      in ways we don’t like. And the State and Local minions of the party in power, once mostly concerned with potholes and snow removal, are more and more
      agents of federal ideological control.

      It was easier to tolerate government in flyover America before Washington started dropping bombs on us.

      It was easier to pay the price for government folly in an era of prosperity and growth.

      Neither party will be happy with the outcome of the US election. The party willing to bend the law and corrupt the institution to retain power will likely continue to do so with a vengeance. The members of the other party have traditionally gone away quietly, respecting traditions. This stopped once at Fort Sumpter. One wonders how and where it will stop a second time.

      There is not always violence when a majority of the population wants to say “no, stop, the direction is wrong”. In some traditions, the militia will not fire upon the citizens. We can hope.

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        MadJak

        I have noticed that every time there is a female candidate for the top Job it gets really really [[snip] bad name calling.].

        I suspect it’s because the advisors of the nominee encourage the female candidates to provoke the male into making some sort of underhanded abusive comment – the reason? because a male always looks bad when they do this to a woman – regardless of whether it might be justified or not.

        I saw New Zealand elections go this way, Australian elections go this way and now the american election as well. Does anyone else here remember the extreme animosity between Hilton and Obama for the democratic ticket?

        Before you know it the male candidates find themselves in a school girl [snip] fight for which they are uncomfortable with and are often ill prepared.

        [Editorial discretion applied. I understand why you used the term you did but it isn't necessary to convey your message. Sorry.] AZ

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    Big Green is for war, waste, neurosis and debt. Coal is for peace, conservation, realism and hard money.

    Vote Trump. Drain the swamp. Fight Green Blob!

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      Yonniestone

      The demise of ‘big pantsuit’ is reason enough.

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        She needs a big pantsuit to cover the bulletproof jacket, LifeVest Wearable Defibrillator and essential work implements such as eye of newt, toe of frog, wool of bat, tongue of dog, adder’s fork, blind-worm’s sting, lizard’s leg, owl’s wing…that sort of thing.

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        clive

        You only need one reason to vote for Trump and thats Hillary.

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    TdeF

    The NBN was the first attempt by Labor/Greens to control all information. Why else would a very left wing Stephen Conroy give it his highest priority, a $100Bn attempt to force everyone off private phones and force everyone onto his internet. The internet is now the backbone not only of news, current affairs and communication including sms, twitter, youtube, facebook but also most commercial transactions and B2B. Everyone would have to wear red underpants on their heads if Conroy said so, to quote him. Then total censorship would be a matter of just blocking internet addresses. Partial censorship and intimidation would be having copies of everything kept by the government, possibly to be examined and analysed. Hold on, that’s already happening.

    Governments have worked out how to deal with freedom, just hide it all from the public, like the RET, the attempt to control all electrical power How would you like to own an electricity company and if you sold electricity, and if the RET was 20%, you had to buy 20% from your opposition who could charge what they liked, currently $90 a Mwhr, so 9c a kW/hr. Given that this is twice what you can get at 4c an hour, that’s 40% of your gross income gone. Then as your costs are say 50%, that’s nearly all of your profit. When the RET hits 40%, all our power will close, but that’s the whole idea. All presented as a failure of the capitalist market.

    So we get an incredible situation where Hazelwood closes and electricity prices go UP? Why don’t they just charge more in the first place?

    You would think if Hazelwood could get higher prices, they would not close, but they have to pay it to their opposition. So Australia already has about the highest gas price in the world and soon to have the highest electricity prices in the world. Then you get utterly unreliable and inadequate sustainables? What a contradiction!

    Who wins? The people who want to control every aspect of your lives, as in the US. As Trump says, it’s not about you. It’s about them, many not even Americans.

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    Dennis

    There are Victoria Police investigators who are fed up with political interference in police investigations, one notably pushed aside via political interference around twenty years ago, the AWU slush fund and related matters, and again pushed aside after the election of a new Labor government in Victoria.

    I wonder how many police officers with integrity are frustrated by the interference in investigations into people referred to state law agencies by the Royal Commission into union governance and corruption.

    It is encouraging to read that US Federal Bureau of Investigation officers are also fed up.

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    Manfred

    I pray Trump’s security detail is simply the best in the business.
    Should he receive the mantle of power from The People he will find himself the focal point of a far larger vision and the anchor point for swathes of people from countries around the World, countries that are presently transfixed by the dead stare of the reptilian UN. He will show as Brexit did, that The People are a giant inconvenient truth. History has a curious way of throwing up the right people at the right time.

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    Jeff

    Jo

    With reference to your comment that “only 6 newspapers support Trump”, what happened to the Fourth Estate. I would have thought that newspapers are not there to shape public opinion, but to analyse the arguments, and irrespective of the particular journalists political views, he should be above being partisan. Even the editorials should be balanced.

    But not only in the US but here in Australia as well the media have forgotten their role.

    Any realistic suggestions on how to fix this would be welcome, but I fear the public in both countries are not disgusted or angry enough to get up in arms (figuratively I hope) to do something about it.

    That’s my two cents worth. Comments would be welcome.

    Jeff

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      el gordo

      Jeff the print media has generally taken sides ever since the beginning of newspapers, but distorting news to present a biased view is unforgivable.

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    TdeF

    I believe Prince Charles is concerned about the future of mankind and there are many others who are told the world is dying and something must be done to stop pollution. These people mean well. They think that the politicals leader of NASA, the Royal Society and the CSIRO actually tell the truth?

    Do I believe Obama cares about the Great Barrier Reef? No. He would be lucky to know where it was.

    Does he believe the people of the Crimea are worse off? No. Does Hilary care about fracking, climate change (whatever that is) or global warming or immigation, no. These elites live sheltered lives in super rich isolated and gated communities which are so far from everyday life they may as well be on Mars. Similarly with inner city Melbourne Greens who are shutting do the city, making it impossible to visit by car. It’s their city and outsiders are not welcome except on bicycles, maybe. They even stopped a tunnel under Northern Melbourne which would have taken 40,000 cars off the road in their suburbs, because they don’t like car people having access to better roads, even under their suburb! This cost Victorian taxpayers $1Bn to NOT build a road. Now the police are having to deal with squatters in the unoccupied houses. That must please them.

    Now I read that Malcolm’s Liberals’ Environment Minister, Greg Hunt, is overseas looking at Very Fast Train systems. We have one in Victoria, Melbourne to Ballarat. At times this year the normally 1 hour trip was over 2 hours, because the now single line wore out the wheels and was never faster, despite being only one track now. More and more these elites are using their political puppets to take away what previous generations had built. Train lines, power stations, infrastructure, good roads while they build walls around their playgrounds. What’s next, a levy on your airplane ticket to pay for the Very Slow and ultra expensive Train. The tickets would be $1000 each way just to pay for it.

    If Trump wins, the US can lead once again start working in the best interests of all. Even the Russians are terrified of a Clinton win. At present, it is bankers and the Clintons and their rich friends like George Soros against the ordinary people. However to listen to them, you would think they actually cared about Climate Change, when they stop flying around in their private jets. Imagine a Trump win. Republicans in the lower house, senate and Presidency. That would stop Climate Change in its tracks.

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    Analitik

    To all our American colleagues, please accept our sincere apology for these interfering idiots who have taken it upon themselves fly to the US to campaign for Hillary. I guess they aren’t missed at wherever they work since they also flew over in 2008 to campaign for Obama.

    http://edition.cnn.com/2016/11/04/politics/foreign-workers-us-elections/

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      Analitik

      To all our American colleagues, please accept our sincere apology for these interfering id1ots who have taken it upon themselves fly to the US to campaign for Hillary. I guess they aren’t missed at wherever they work since they also flew over in 2008 to campaign for Obama.

      http://edition.cnn.com/2016/11/04/politics/foreign-workers-us-elections/

      repost to get past moderation filter

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        PeterS

        There are rotten apples in any society. Look at the Australians who went over to Syria to fight with ISIS. The amazing part about that is we are letting them back in! They should never be let back into Australia. There is no point trying to figure out why such people are pure evil – they just are.

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          Yonniestone

          The ones that went to fight for ISIS were and never will be part of our society, or any that follow the fundamentals of those beliefs for that matter.

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        Another Ian

        Do you wonder that the ALP sends trainees to the Democrats?

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      Spetzer86

      You’re forgiven. And if Trump somehow wins, please forgive us for the numerous left-wing entertainers and socialites that have committed to leaving the US for Australia.

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        Annie

        We don’t need any more of them here…too many celebrity airheads and champagne socialists already!

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        a microflaw in the Hildebeast program—
        or was it a micro-flea?—
        someone scratching round for “my precious”:
        hmm ha, i think, was it not,
        i had it right here, right here, right here!

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          alas, alas, a microflaw
          multiplied by a none too well drained swamp
          minus a street of great walls rising high—
          indivisible, with derivatives over all

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        PhilJourdan

        Strangely, most are threatening Canada. Not Mexico or any other country.

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    pat

    Trump is back up over the gray band of confidence:

    USC Dornsife / LA Times Presidential Election Poll
    4 Nov:
    Trump 48
    Clinton 42.6
    http://cesrusc.org/election/

    comment at freerepublic: Graph at link indicates that probability of Trump win is outside 95-percent confidence interval if election were held today.
    To win the electoral college he needs a margin of 3% plus in the popular vote – which is looking increasingly likely. I actually think he’ll break 5% the way things are going!
    This is obviously at odds with what we’ve been told by the MSM during that time interval.

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    Yonniestone

    It’s hard to believe that in my hometown of Ballarat the Phoenix Foundry was the largest locomotive manufacturer in Victoria when On 13 April 1883 a public holiday was celebrated in Ballarat to mark the completion of the hundredth locomotive for the Victorian Government.

    Today after hundreds of millions in blowout costs during the regional fast rail project engineers have forgotten basic metal coefficients of friction.

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      Yonniestone

      For Tdef @ #9.

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        TdeF

        Thanks. Actually I love trains and have travelled 12,000km across Russia by train, from Vladivostok to Odessa in Ukraine, from St. Petersburg to Moscow. Last year I took a ferry from Moscow to Astrakhan. Slow travel, like slow food. Delightful.

        However a Reasonably Fast Train, say 200km/hr at reasonable cost would be far preferable to this insanity of very fast trains. Perhaps if we had 120million people in Victoria, the size of Japan but not Australia. It makes no sense. At a cost of $100bn to build, it would not be cheap to go by train. That’s 300 new jumbo jets, 747s. Why?

        Nor would it be fast, as evidenced by ten years of Very Fast Trains in Victoria, none of which work. At the same time, every country train line is closing down. So we will have one line between Melbourne and Sydney? Why? So ABC journalists could commute to work in Sydney on a train?

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          Yonniestone

          From my observations the benefits of air, road or rail is always calculated by the infrastructure for each regarding initial cost and ongoing maintenance, we still have the Ballarat Railway Workshops (now used by Alstom) that serviced the regional rail lines and carriers, state funded it didn’t matter if it broke even as long as it performed a good service to keep the system operational, much like our power, phone water supply used to be.

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          el gordo

          Why?

          Decentralization and the flood of immigrants from India and China. The poor anglo types will be forced out of the capital cities to start their lives anew in the bush, so in terms of due diligence there should be enough turnover to make it viable.

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    the utterly delusional Joe Klein, member of the Council on Foreign Relations:

    3 Nov: Time Mag: Joe Klein: Why Hillary Clinton Is the Only Choice to Keep America Great
    Well, sure: Donald Trump is unendorsable. There hasn’t been a major-party candidate less fit for the presidency in American history.
    I’ve never actually endorsed a candidate…But I want to be clear in this crucial year: I will be voting for Hillary Clinton on Nov. 8…
    Not happily, even though I’ve known her for a long time, known her to be hardworking, intelligent, moral and sane. Not happily, because I sense that she has been too severely damaged in the course of the 30-year battering she’s received at the hands of extremists and the media…
    Clinton is a reminder, too, of the reflexive entitlement that comes with dynastic politics. The Democrats, in general, seem stale. They represent a boundless faith in government that doesn’t acknowledge the corroded inefficiencies of our current system. They practice a form of identity politics–special treatment for special groups–that can be easily perverted, a vulnerability Trump has been exploiting all year…
    ***He does not read…
    His acceptance of Russia’s attacks on our electoral system is unprecedented and outrageous…
    Those who would put Clinton’s failings in the same league as Trump’s depravities are delusional…
    http://time.com/4556052/hillary-clinton-only-choice/?xid=homepage

    ***just as Trump was never a racist until he ran for President, he apparenty read books before he ran, Joe.
    apart from other favourite books he has named over the years, how about this!

    May 2011: LA Times: Donald Trump has read a lot of books on China: ‘I understand the Chinese mind’
    “I’ve read hundreds of books about China over the decades,” Trump told Xinhua, the official news agency of the People’s Republic of China…
    Asked to name any of his favorite tomes on China, Trump reportedly listed the following 20 books right off the top of his head.
    1. “The Party” by Richard McGregor
    2. “On China” by Henry Kissinger
    3. “Mao: The Untold Story” by Jung Chang
    4. “Tide Players” by Jianying Zha
    5. “One Billion Customers” by James McGregor
    6. “The Coming China Wars” by Peter W. Navarro
    7. “The Beijing Consensus” by Stefan Halper
    8. “China CEO” by Juan Antonio Fernandez and Laurie Underwood
    9. “Poorly Made in China” by Paul Midler
    10. “CHINA: Portrait of a People” by Tom Carter
    11. “The Man Who Loved China” by Simon Winchester
    12. “China Shakes the World” by James Kynge
    13. “Mr. China” by Tim Clissold
    14. “Country Driving” by Peter Hessler
    15. “The Dragon’s Gift” by Deborah Brautigam
    16. “Factory Girls” by Leslie T. Chang
    17. “The Heavenly Man” by Brother Yun
    18. “1421″ by Gavin Menzies
    19. “Seven Years in Tibet” by Heinrich Harrer
    20. “Battle Hymn of the Tiger Mother” by Amy Chua
    http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/washington/2011/05/donald-trump-i-understand-the-chinese-mind.html

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      TdeF

      I subscribed to Time magazine since a teenager. A few years ago, I stopped. Also the Melbourne Age. I wanted news, not their views, objective opinion, not lecturing entirely from a left opinion. The idea with Time was that I wanted an American perspective, but all I found was the opinions of a class of self justifying journalists with group think. Of course they would endorse Clinton. It’s what they do. It’s what their friends do. It is what they are told to do.

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      OriginalSteve

      The CFR is the unoffical American Govt and the Elite “go to” spot – anything that comes out of the CFR is NWO propaganda only.

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    pat

    classy:

    5 Nov: BusinessInsider: Oliver Darcy: Jay Z repeatedly drops n-word, f-bomb during concert for Hillary Clinton
    The rapper repeatedly used the n-word and dropped the f-bomb as he performed “F — WithMeYouKnowIGotIt” and his hit “Dirt off Your Shoulder” song at a Cleveland rally.
    “You’re tuned into the motherf—– greatest,” a voice said as Jay Z appeared onstage.
    “If you feelin’ like a pimp n—-, go and brush your shoulders off,” Jay Z rapped. “Ladies is pimps too, go and brush your shoulders off. N—– is crazy baby, don’t forget that boy told you. Get that dirt off your shoulders.”
    Jay Z also performed the song “Jigga My N—-,” in which he boasted that he was “Jay-Z, motherf——-!”
    The rapper, whose lyrics are often laced with profanity, participated in the concert for Clinton as part of a get-out-the-vote effort. He was joined by Beyonce, Big Sean, and Chance the Rapper.
    A representative for the Clinton campaign did not immediately return a request for comment.
    http://finance.yahoo.com/news/jay-z-repeatedly-drops-n-013813687.html

    16 Oct: GossipExtra: WHITE HOUSE HYPOCRISY: Meet the Obama’s Favorite Foul-Mouthed Rappers!
    In the last seven years, Michelle and President Barack Obama have hosted some of the crudest, foulest-mouthed rappers out there, thus legitimizing money- and fame-hungry cultural influencers whose demeaning lyrics urge a generation of young men to grope and objectify women.
    Like who?
    And, there’s no forgetting White House frequent flyer Jay Z, the convicted felon who stabbed a record…ETC
    http://www.gossipextra.com/2016/10/16/michelle-obama-hypocrisy-rapper-kendrick-lamar-6432/

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    to their credit, the virulently anti-Trump NY Daily News has provided a platform for a critic to outline the case against Clinton. very lengthy:

    3 Nov: NY Daily News: Lisa Schiffren: The case against Hillary Clinton
    (Schiffren is a senior fellow at the Independent Women’s Forum)
    The Daily News last month published an indictment of the character and temperament of Donald Trump that stands as the longest editorial in the 97-year history of the newspaper. When drafting that, we invited a prominent critic of Hillary Clinton to take her best shot at writing an equivalent indictment of the Democratic nominee…

    Clinton’s public persona is a façade, though a well designed one, held up by her staff, masters of television illusion and a collaborating national media. With the release of WikiLeaks emails, it has become clear that her senior staff questions that image among themselves…
    Judging by her actions over the past 35 years in Washington and Arkansas, in roles from governor’s wife to First Lady, senator to secretary of state, it is clear that Hillary’s deep character flaws and temperamental shortcomings, while better hidden than Donald Trump’s very visible ones, present a much greater danger to our democracy.
    Clinton’s character-revealing behavior includes incessant lying to the public; vast personal greed leading to corruption in high office; abuse of power on behalf of herself and against private citizens and political rivals; disregard for the law, and the very idea of the Rule of Law; disdain for the “deplorable” half of her opponent’s supporters, and the confession, made during a private Goldman Sachs speech revealed by WikiLeaks, that she typically offers one position on policy and politics in private and another, often very different one, for public consumption.

    This admission alone makes it impossible to know whether any policy agenda she has campaigned on reflects her intentions. Or is she actually planning to implement unwelcome policies voters would reject if she were honest about them?
    Nor is the media helping find the truth. As we have learned lately, some top-tier news organizations have offered her staff questions before interviews and debates, so that she can rehearse, and her staff can veto uncomfortable questions. Reporters have run copy past her campaign staff. The press seems happily complicit in this corruption, but it makes any reporting hard to trust…
    Her use of operatives like Robert Creamer to foment violence at Trump rallies, as Creamer boasted on a Project Veritas videotape, suggests she will stop at nothing…

    It is puzzling that so many of Clinton’s supporters seem indifferent to her unethical and illegal behavior. Living in denial, they insist that each instance in which she has been accused of lying, breaking laws set up to protect national security, letting large donations bend policy or failing massively with policy can be explained by accusing the imaginary “vast right-wing conspiracy” of persecution…
    She’s a liar…ETC ETC
    Money, money, money, money
    Amassing vast amounts of money, by whatever means, has always occupied a significant part of Hillary Clinton’s energy…ETC ETC
    http://interactive.nydailynews.com/2016/11/op-ed-case-against-hillary-clinton/

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    pat

    Vargas’s HuffPo article says it has 995 comments at present but, when u click to read them, it’s reduced to 388; nonetheless, almost every comment supports his position and many are former dem voters/Sanders voters now planning to vote for Trump! so much for the “effectiveness” of all that HuffPo Clinton propaganda:

    HuffPo: Cesar Vargas: Why I Can No Longer Support Clinton
    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/casar-vargas/why-i-can-no-longer-suppo_1_b_12698874.html

    this won’t help either:

    4 Nov: Heat St: Andrew Stiles: WIKILEAKS: Clinton Campaign Manager Suggests Secret ‘Agreement’ with Bernie Sanders
    In a May 2015 email exchange, top Clinton campaign aides discussed “Sanders criticism” after Hillary’s primary opponent attacked the Clintons over their extreme wealth by suggesting that they “hustle money.”…
    Clinton campaign manager Robby Mook emailed campaign chairman John Podesta to express his displeasure with Sanders’ remarks, and suggested that Sanders had violated an “agreement” of some kind between the campaigns.
    “This isn’t in keep [with] the agreement,” Mook wrote. “Since we clearly have some leverage, would be good to flag this for him. I could send a signal via Welch–or did you establish a direct line [with] him?”
    The “Welch” referred to here is presumably Rep. Peter Welch (D., Vt.), one of the first Democratic lawmakers to publicly endorse Sanders…
    https://heatst.com/politics/wikileaks-clinton-sanders-agreement/

    true or not, it’s something else to make the Clinton camp nervous:

    4 Nov: ZeroHedge: Tyler Durden: Hacker Guccifer 2.0 Warns He Has “Info From Inside FEC: Democrats May Rig The Elections”
    Earlier today, after a two week silence, Guccifer 2.0 reemerged, with a post on his blog, in which he alleges that he has information from inside the Federal Election Commission, according to which “democrats may rig the elections.” He then adds “this may be possible because of the software installed in the FEC networks by the large IT companies.”…
    “As I’ve already said, their software is of poor quality, with many holes and vulnerabilities.
    more:
    “I have registered in the FEC electronic system as an independent election observer; so I will monitor that the elections are held honestly.
    “I also call on other hackers to join me, monitor the elections from inside and inform the U.S. society about the facts of electoral fraud.”
    http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-11-04/hacker-guccifer-20-warns-he-has-info-inside-fec-democrats-may-rig-elections

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    tom0mason

    With BREXIT and the Hillary/Trump shows as top of the ratings, surely we’ve now moved from democracy to cantankocracy.

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    PhilJourdan

    While it sounds like a crazy conspiracy theory, Jo’s article is very close to the heart of truth. If Trump loses, America has lost any say in their leaders. More than any policy stand or position, Trump (and Bernie before he was cheated by the Clintons and DNC) represent the attempt by the common folk to get their country back. And it does not look good.

    I know that many hate Trump or just do not like him. He is not a smooth talking politician. What he is, is an anti-establishment candidate who takes no money from the players, so they cannot control him. And they fear him.

    This is not unique to America. If nothing else, Tony Abbott and the UK Court Brexit ruling shows it is an international problem.

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      John Smith

      There’s been lot’s of funny articles here the in US about how all the nice polite folk Down Under and in Europe are just horrified that us ignorant and uncultured Americans would vote such a scary person as the Donald.
      I think you’re right, it is an international problem.
      It’s nice to know we’re not alone in our backwardness.
      If Mrs. Clinton and the banksters of the EU represent education and culture, then give me none of it.
      Thanks Jo and cranks on this blog.
      May freedom ring rude, crude, and loud forever.

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        OriginalSteve

        I think the MSM is left wing to its awful core, so naturally the MSM will be writing stuff as if they represented the bulk of the population.

        The MSM is so far *removed* from what the average Australian thinks, its laughable.

        The MSM is panicking because it knows it will be routed if the Donald wins because it will prove that the bulk of the population who actually vote differently to the foolishness of left wing anything and are sick of being done over by the left and its evil desires that the public are itching to even the score via the ballot box.

        One concern I have is that if the election is stolen, and it may be, the USA may erupt into violence and the FBI may find itself having to protect the very people who stole the election.
        However the Elite then have a very real problem on its hands – 100 million legally held guns and a ticked off population……. the Elite may trigger a small nuke in a city somewhere to create a distraction, blame it on ISIS and impose planned martial law to ensure america sinks into a planned permanent dictatorship.

        That said, if you have seen V for Vendetta, a determined amateur will overcome a professional force most times, so interesting times ahead
        I’m not condoning or promoting violence etc, just pointing out based on history how edgy this stuff like this can go.

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    RAH

    This Hoosier went up Monday to the Madison County Administration building and voted early to “Make America Great Again”. As a truck driver that is most likely going to be on the road on the Tuesday of any general election I have voted early since they started allowing it in my state and before that when I had a driving job that would keep me on the road for weeks at a time I voted absentee. Every other time I voted early I had either no wait or maybe a five minute wait to get to vote. This time I had to wait over 1/2 hour to get to a machine. We have to fill out a form with Name, Address, etc.. and then show a drivers license, state ID, in order to vote. The kid in front of me, trying to vote for the first time in his life was not allowed because they had no record of him being registered though he claimed he had registered via the internet and would be back with his confirmation number. With a system like that fraud without the complicity of the people working the polls or corruption of machines or count seems pretty unlikely. Though I disagree with computer voting machines and that is what Indiana has on some places, I do like the way ours are set up. After a vote has cast their ballot the machine has to be reset by a poll worker with an electronic key before the next person can vote. Since there are poll workers from both major parties working it helps ensure some level of integrity.

    This major organized revolt against the two major political parties in this country has been a long time coming and make no mistake, that is exactly what a great number of the votes for Trump will be expressing. And it also works the other way IMO. Many a voter that went to Obama previously will not show up at the polls for Hillary even leaving the racial aspect aside. The woman just does not have a great deal of enthusiasm for her and that is why she needs celebrities to stand up with her at her rallies because without them the crowd size at several of her events has been indicative of that lack of enthusiasm.

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    Oliver K. Manuel

    Thanks for this post. There is a lot of silent support for Trump, probably because most voters know the entire establishment is against him.

    I will vote for him, and so will most of the people I know personally. The ratio of yard signs for Trump:Hillary in Cape Girardeau, MO is greater than 10:1

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    Raven

    Bill Still SR 1319
    Looks like the balloon is going up very soon if these rather incredible, dangerous and disturbing revelations are to be believed.
    Crikey . . .

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    Ruairi

    The Donald now plays his Trump card,
    By a speech to remove the old guard,
    With the ‘polls’ neck and neck,
    Which may need a recheck,
    He’s likely to win by a yard.

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    Every congressmann is a milionaire, and so are Clinton and Trump.

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    Vlad the Impaler

    Not that Jo’s readers/patrons really care, here is my two cents:

    I do not know who will win, but I think if Donald Trump does win (despite all the phony votes and rigged election returns), I think it could be 40 states that end up in his column.

    Two days to go, it’s time to play our Trump card … … …

    Regards to all,

    Vlad

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    Roy Hogue

    So, now it’s the 11th hour. And we know not what the outcome will be. Good luck, Donald Trump.

    Everyone who hasn’t already voted early, get out on election day and vote.

    And unfortunately there is early voting in a number of states, one of the many things we have done in the past that make a mockery out of our elections.

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      Roy Hogue

      Mr. Trump,

      Please. If you’re elected work to get rid of things like “motor voter” (register when you renew your driver license), early voting unless you are actually going to be absent from your assigned precinct on election day, failure to keep voter rolls cleaned up as has been required of the states for a long time by federal law but blocked by the Justice Department. Put an end to the practice of trying to interpret the voter’s intent, which is entirely subjective, when an election by it’s very definition is objective. A spoiled ballot is a spoiled ballot and they are not counted with respect to the items that are ambiguous.

      Put back some credibility by making it clear that it is the citizens responsibility to find out where to register, go there and register, showing proof of citizenship and your residence address, then on election day, go to your assigned polling place and vote. And while you’re at it, make sure that a driver’s license is never issued to an illegal alien because there are now probably thousands of illegals who have driver’s licenses, a document that is seen as proof of citizenship all over the country. Or make sure there are foolproof voter ID cards issued to every registered voter and they are checked each time you vote.

      Make it illegal for anyone to both register voters and offer them transportation to their polling place. And while at it, restore the requirement to be registered far enough in advance of an election that your registration can be checked before you vote.

      Get rid of this “provisional voting”. It is rife with opportunities for voter fraud. Either you’re identifiable unambiguously as a legitimate voter on Election Day or you’re not.

      We can provide help for those who actually need it to register or get to the polling place, even help filling out the ballot. But for anyone who can actually do it without help, require it. It’s part of the responsibility of citizenship.

      Add to the credibility by making it a crime for anyone to hand another a preferred list of votes they should cast because this very effectively amounts to the same person voting multiple times.

      Never allow the Internet to be used to vote or to transmit ballots, vote counts or anything else about the voting on Election Day from one place to another. It will never be secure enough to protect the most vital activity we have in our precious republic. Never allow voting by Internet for the same reason. If ballots are automated, use a paper ballot read by machine and keep the paper ballots for their value as an audit trail (one of the things that at least some counties in California have gotten right).

      All these things are the legacy of the American left and they make our elections a joke.

      We once knew the importance of our right to vote and we protected it. Most states would remove you from the voter rolls if you missed one or more general elections in a row. A notification was sent and you could register without penalty under the same requirements that existed previously, proof of citizenship and residence in the precinct where you were registering. Now we have dead people on our voter rolls and the justice department has gone to court to prevent removing them. And funny thing, computers can now easily crosscheck death certificates with voter registration. They can also crosscheck voter rolls across the states to insure no one can vote more than once (yes, there are documented cases).

      Voting may be a constitutional right if you’re a citizen. But it carries responsibility with it and if you can’t carry out that responsibility you don’t deserve that right. If you can’t do the registration and honest voting part of it, what does that tell us about how informed your vote will be? And why would we want you voting in ignorance? We shouldn’t and anyone who understands the stakes on Election Day doesn’t.

      I’ve been accused of whining. Yet all of these things now exist because of the whining of anyone and everyone with the smallest complaint. We have been right on the edge of allowing non citizens to vote because they whine and cry that they can’t. And these things do us nothing but harm. It is this mess that enabled Donald Trump to be so successful. Go figure.

      Life is tough. Get used to it because it never gets easier.

      Am I too harsh? The result of this election may tell us the answer.

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        Roy

        I think you are absolutely right. The more I read and learn about the USA electoral/voting system the more I shake my head. I’m sorry, but some of it is third world. If a place like the USA cannot have a reasonably clean electoral roll there is something wrong (eg. why are approximately 2 million dead people still on the roll?).
        You should right to Trump with what you have out lined whether he wins or loses –if he doesn’t win I don’t think he will disappear from the political scene in a big hurry. He probably won’t stand again but I think he will still try to affect some change, somehow.

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        Gail Combs

        Roy Hogue,

        Do not forget Trump’s Army who are now wide awake.

        It is up to US, the US citizen, to take back our country. Trump only jumped in front of the mob and made it into an Army.

        You can find one of the head quarters HERE.

        After the election, the hard work of pushing our out of control Congress Critters back in line and taking back the GOP starts.

        And it looks like we will have some help from law enforcement.

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          Roy Hogue

          Gail,

          I sincerely hope you’re right. But the fight isn’t over, as they say, until the fat lady sings. And the fat lady doesn’t sing until at least tomorrow evening. And she’s most likely to be singing about a disputed election from what I can see.

          You can bet that I want DC cleaned up as much as anyone does. But we really need a decisive Trump victory and if he wins it looks more like a slim margin over Hillary. And the Democrats will have a field day yelling that Trump has no mandate to govern and they’ll throw every possible roadblock in his way. They would do that anyway of course but it will be much more effective if he doesn’t have a decisive win.

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        PhilJourdan

        What many people fail to realize is that there are NO federal elections. This is 50 state elections held simultaneously. So the “motor voter” is not a federal issue, and Trump can do nothing.

        Your recommendations are good, but each state would have to enact such restrictions/laws. Not the Federal Government.

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    Ross

    One thing that comes out regularly, which really annoys me, is the experts / analysts / journalists who talk about populism as if it is a “dirty word”.

    If this is a good definition of populism, then the way they use it answers why Trump has so much support

    ” At its root, populism is a belief in the power of regular people, and in their right to have control over their government rather than a small group of political insiders or a wealthy elite. The word populism comes from the Latin word for “people,” populus.”

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      Yonniestone

      Good point, I’ll add patriotism, nationalism and rationalism to that list of “dirty words” abhorred by the pseudo-Pravda.

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      Roy Hogue

      And, hey, that’s the foundation of both the Declaration of Independence and the Constitution, that the government works for us, not we for them.

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    Fuel Filter

    Thank you, Jo, so very much from Mexifornia.

    I know you’ve been on this since the beginning and I thank you for it.

    It’s good to see a lot of the here from OZ and notice there are *finally* a whole lot less of the snarky and “morally superior” comments about Trump being a “buffoon” and the like. A whole lot less of the virtue-signaling. Looks like you folk have finally woken up to what DJT has been saying all along.

    Of course, if his detractors here had even bothered to go to his position papers many months ago they would know he’s clearly stated his views for all to see from the beginning.

    We have so many issues and problems here in the U.S. The AGW BS is just the tip of the iceberg, but one thing I know for certain is that DJT is going to gut our out-of-control EPA, use executive orders with the same abandon Chocolate Jesus has to gut the horrific regulatory burdens we have had to endure for 71/2 years (actually, a damn sight longer).

    And tell me, what’s the difference between building a wall on our Southern border and Abbot’s policy of turning boats back?

    Answer: It’s  going to put a whole lot of Americans and our companies back to work, not just a Navy.

    It’s also going to put more than a few sleepless nights into turncoats, idiots and fools like Turnbull, Cameron and Merkel.

    It also is going to do it’s best to put Cankles and her cronies in prison.

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      Fuel Filter

      18-C…

      Same sort of “law” that Mark Stein and Ezra Levant ran into in Canada?

      If so, then that’s a real shame. That’s the sort of “law” that Clinton would do her best to inact.

      That sort of nonsense is why we still have the 1st amendment (and the 2nd to inforce it + put the fear of God into those who would attempt to usurp it).

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    doubtingdave

    We often say follow the money , but please also consider that history repeats itself , , when Constantine came to the throne in Rome he past edixs on religion that created a one religion empire , almost a compendium of popular religions of the time , also he created trade deals that disappeared borders and sovereignty within the empire and created a feudal system that lasted a thousand years , is it so far fetched that , that is what we are facing now with Globalism and the new world order , with Global warming as the new all size fits all religion , that is why the American election is so important and why I am on the Trump train

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    doubtingdave

    sorry for the poor grammar , but give it some thought

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    Roy Hogue

    I am always torn between thinking Julian Assange is a real whistle blower and a blessing and a damned traitor who really ought to be shot.

    What can you say of a man who has no qualms about releasing classified information as though it was last weeks grocery list when we’re finding out the depth of one of our candidates for president’s wilful mishandling of the same kind of information and we’re complaining about her “mistake”. And who knows who else has gotten classified information from Assange.

    In the end, if we are the nation we say we are, governed by laws, then he’s a traitor. But here we have a situation where government abuse and corruption are so rampant as to be a disaster for that very same rule of law. I only wish he had used better judgement about it and had become an honest whistle blower because as it is he looks just like one more self righteous numbskull who thinks himself to be an authority on what’s wrong and what’s right. As a real whistle blower he may well have gotten lots of trouble. But as it is he has a price on his head, is a wanted man and if caught will be prosecuted and rightfully so, for espionage.

    I really don’t know how to reconcile those two conflicting elements. Nor do I know what I would do if I found myself in the position of knowing I could rock the boat enough to possibly stop the government abuse or at least cut it down by several orders of magnitude or whatever else Assange thinks he’s doing.

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      Fuel Filter

      If Assange outs the Clintons as the scum they are then so be it.

      If the shoe goes on the other foot we will deal with that then.

      Right no there is no more important issue than keeping the Clintons out of the White House.

      Period.

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      “In the end, if we are the nation we say we are, governed by laws, then he’s a traitor.”
      Roy, I think he has to be a citizen of your country to be a traitor. He’s Australian. Used to live just across the bay from my place.

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        Roy Hogue

        You are right. My mistake. Too much enthusiasm sometimes. Nuts. But he’s nonetheless a wanted man and if caught will be tried and surely imprisoned for a very long time. And his disclosure of classified information makes it all the more a problem to me because it’s our classified stuff.

        All I can say about the guy is that he demonstrates why putting classified stuff where it can be reached by Internet is a very bad idea. And hacking is still a crime too, also for very good reason.

        And I still don’t know how to balance one thing off against another. And that’s really the only disadvantage of self government, any form of democracy — it depends on honesty. Ad we humans tend to become dishonest when an important self-interest is at stake.

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          Raven

          And his disclosure of classified information makes it all the more a problem to me because it’s our classified stuff.

          Define “classified information”.
          If information has been classified because it shows the administration in a bad light, is that classification OK? . . . or is it better described as a cover up?
          What about corruption? Is it OK to have that classified and kept out of public view?

          How would you feel if corruption disclosures were made through the mainstream media?
          Is that now OK? . . and if so, why?

          If the mainstream media have access to reasonable and confirmed evidence of corruption and they don’t disclose it, is that OK?

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            Roy Hogue

            Raven,

            I saw your questions early this morning and tried to put together some answers. But I couldn’t make it make sense. And here’s why…

            If you have rules (laws) by which everyone is obligated to live, then is it Ok to violate those laws? And the answer has to be a resounding no. Then there’s the case where you might actually be applauded if you do break them. For instance it’s not legal to shoot at someone but if he’s shooting at you then you suddenly have a right to defend yourself. Extend this to Wikileaks. Who has the right to hack into a server, any server? And the answer again has to be, no one. But I think we can allow exceptions in the case of corruption but then we have the question, who can we allow to hack into a server to search for information. The courts will say (without a doubt) that no one who doesn’t have a search warrant from a court of competent jurisdiction can do that. And if you have a warrant then you do not need to hack, you walk right up to the front door, show your warrant and take away whatever you want to search.

            I think it safe to say that Assange had no warrant and in fact (in spite of my mistake) he could not have gotten one even if he had solid evidence. He could have given that evidence simultaneously to a number of news outlets so there was the pressure of competition to be first to publish it. But you can never be sure what will work or how well it will work.

            Why am I torn between 2 views of Wikileaks? Because dishonesty needs really strong justification before we should permit it to go unpunished. And I think the justification was only there after the hacking took place, something U.S. courts would frown on without hesitation.

            In the end, self government depends on everyone being honest. And not just the elected or appointed leaders but also the citizens.

            I’m going to state my case based on the foregoing that it’s not the Clintons who are responsible for their dishonesty but the voters. We put them in power as we do any other elected position. We saw something in Bill and HIllary that we shouldn’t have found beneficial or useful in the slightest degree. We got tempted to take one too many shortcuts through no man’s land and that encouraged those two to do even worse than they had done in the past and now we’re here. Needless to say, anyone with half a brain regrets it all.

            It’s a Godawful mess by any standard and I don’t know where else to put the blame. And having come to that conclusion I can’t answer your questions adequately any more than I can answer my own.

            We need to first ask ourselves, where and why did WE go wrong? And then understand the answer to that question. I doubt that we ever will.

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          doubtingdave

          so if Trump wins the election , does he not have the power to pardon Assange , he is a Aussie not a yank ; so how can you charge him for treason anyway

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            Raven

            Dunno doubtingdave,

            The UN reckons he should be released and I know we’re all big fans of the UN around here, right.

            I reckon Donald should not only give him a pardon, but also a medal in recognition of his employment contributions to the USA.
            Just imagine all the FBI agents they’ll hire to get to the bottom of Clinton Inc. ;)

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            Ross

            Isn’t Assange’s issues with Sweden ?
            But I think USA may have said they would help with extradition —if that’s the case all Trump could is say they will no longer help ( unless there is some kind of binding treaty). But the most likely and practical solution would be for Trump to facilitate a deal to get Assange out of his mess with the Swedes.

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              Graeme No.3

              Officially the USA doesn’t want Assange. If he exits the Embassy then the British police will arrest him and deport him to Sweden – this is because Sweden asked initially for him to be extradited to answer questions (which he refused to do nor return to Sweden). This was when the UK and Sweden were co-members of the EU. I expect that the British would honour the deal even if they were no longer in the EU.
              Assange’s defence has been that once he gets to Sweden they will extradite him to the USA and he will face the death penalty. Personally I think this is far-fetched given the independent nature of the Swedish judiciary and the unwillingness of Sweden to cooperate on numerous occasions in the last 50 years.
              I haven’t kept up with developments but I think that the Swedish police took his attitude as suspicious and have laid charges. I doubt that they spend much time on the matter.

              The obvious solution is for the UK government to declare Assange an undesirable alien (on the grounds of being a public health hazard) and deport him to Australia. Any extradition request from the USA will result in complete brain collapse in Canberra; unless that has already occurred.

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      Raven

      I recall few years ago that Julian Assange asked for input from the CIA in order to redact some names on the basis he didn’t want to endanger agents lives. I think that was the leak with the video from the helicopter gun ship lighting up news reporters . . which was covered up. The CIA refused to cooperate.

      He wants to expose wrong doing but I don’t get the impression he’s malicious or seeking to physically harm anyone.
      That said, we do end up with a person outside government deciding what’s in the public interest and what’s not.

      I guess if we are to judge the balance we could start by keeping score of the harm caused by Wikileaks and balance that against the harm brought by the Clinton Cartel.
      If there was no government corruption then whistleblowers would be out of business.
      And we all know what they say . . one mans traitor is another mans freedom fighter.

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      PhilJourdan

      Assange is not American, so is not a traitor. An Enemy? I guess that one depends upon whom and when you ask the question to. He is no man’s toady. And he is responsible for some collateral damage. But I look at it this way. What he tells us is probably only a fraction of what the enemies of the nation he is skewering have already learned.

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        Roy Hogue

        An Enemy? I guess that one depends upon whom and when you ask the question to.

        On that I think we can both agree. The collateral damage is lamentable, seriously so. But the revelations are also deadly serious and like you, I think we’re better off for his having done what he did. It now remains to be seen what is actually accomplished because of Wikileaks that you can call justice.

        I’m still of the opinion that it’s much more valuable to get to the bottom of the corruption and have it all laid bare for everyone to see and understand than it is to prosecute anyone, especially since certain players appear to be protected species with their own personal get-out-of-jail card.

        But Slick Willie (or Willy if you prefer) and Wife have been ripe for a few years behind bars for a long time. Old Slick’s silver tongue and astute political maneuvering almost equal Obama’s. And they’re always let off with nothing but a minor loss, a law license (what’s a law license anyway?) or some fine or reprimand.

        I have often wished I could escape accountability so easily. But no, I always had to stand behind my “mistakes”.

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    Lord Jim

    Homeland Security Committee Chairman Takes Hillary Clinton’s Scandal to Highest Level: ‘It’s Treason’

    “Now we find out, and James Comey told me previously that it is very likely foreign adversary nations got into her private server. This is why you have security protocols to protect classified information.

    She exposed it to our enemies and now, Steve, our adversaries have this very sensitive information that not only jeopardizes her and national security at home, but the men and women serving overseas.

    This is, in my opinion quite frankly, it’s treason.”

    http://ijr.com/wildfire/2016/11/729300-homeland-security-committee-chairman-takes-hillary-clintons-scandal-to-highest-level-its-treason/

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    pat

    5 Nov: NY Post: Isabel Vincent: The Clinton’s Foundation’s $20 million off-the-book mystery
    The little-known Haiti Development Fund, an LLC incorporated in Delaware in August 2010, was created by the Clinton Foundation with an initial endowment of $20 million from shady Canadian mining mogul Frank Giustra and Mexican billionaire Carlos Slim.
    The Fund was supposed to supply desperately needed seed money to Haitian entrepreneurs after an earthquake devastated the country in January 2010.
    But The Post found only one project that it funded with a fraction of the start-up cash.
    Since the Fund is incorporated as a private entity and not a non-profit, it is not subject to the same disclosure rules as a public charity…
    The for-profit Fund was managed by Jean Marc Villain, who was going through a bankruptcy in 2010 when he was working for the Clinton Foundation. The non-profit paid him an annual salary of $100,000 to oversee the Fund, according to pay records attached to the Podesta emails.
    The Florida Elections Commission found that Villain also had violated state laws in 2001 when he did not file donation reports for the Haitian-American Political Caucus, a political committee where he was listed as treasurer.
    “This cries out for an audit or an investigation,” said Ken Boehm, chairman of the National Legal and Policy Center a Virginia-based watchdog group. “Its director was in bankruptcy and there’s almost nothing in the public record showing what happened to the millions of dollars it supposedly was going to use to help poor Haitians.”…
    http://nypost.com/2016/11/05/the-clinton-foundations-off-the-books-20-million-mystery/

    lengthy, but read all, as much has never been reported by the MSM:

    5 Nov: Lifezette: Matthew Vadum: Trump Surge Freakout: More Violence Against Supporters
    As Election Day nears and the GOP nominee rises, attacks on his backers, signs and buildings are escalating
    In one video Creamer says Hillary Clinton personally knows about the false flag operation. Her campaign “is fully in it,” he says. “Hillary knows through the chain of command what’s going on.” Previously convicted of felony bank fraud, Creamer has close personal ties to President Obama and has visited the Obama White House 342 times including 47 meetings with Obama personally.
    One of the visits even took place in Obama’s personal living quarters. “It’s a very big deal that Creamer visited the president’s residence in the White House,” a former senior White House employee told this writer. “White House employees can work there for years and never visit the residence.”…
    http://www.lifezette.com/polizette/trump-surge-freakout-anti-trump-violence-growing-rapidly/

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    philthegeek

    And yet……there is still hope in the world. :)

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    Sane Canadian

    Neither Trump ( clown) not Clinton (sociopathic crook) are fit to hold any public office. What on earth has happened to the US that THESE are the b”best” candidates they can come up with?

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    Sane Canadian

    Neither Trump ( clown) nor Clinton (sociopathic crook) are fit to hold any public office. What on earth has happened to the US that THESE are the b”best” candidates they can come up with?

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      AndyG55

      Canadian.. and sane? Ok whatever you want to believe.

      Amazed that nobody can see that Trump has been playing pretty much the game he had to play.

      He had to get people’s attention, a boring run-of-the-mill “performance” would not have done that. The “appearance” of being a bit of a clown at time, has gained him many backers.

      If he wins against “the socialist totalitarian blob” it will have been well worth it.

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        philthegeek

        He had to get people’s attention,

        LoL!

        With things like “i don’t pay tax cause its smart”, “i like to grab women downstairs”, “i get to walk into a room full of naked young women cause i own the joint.”

        yup, he got peoples attention.

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          AndyG55

          “V”

          Yep, you only have to look at the MASSIVE crowds he keeps getting, compared to Clinton’s tint renta-crowds.

          Sorry you don’t have the brains to see how well he has played this, phlop.

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            philthegeek

            We will all know how well he has played and who’s been played in few days Angry.

            He’s certainly got the habitually angry, frustrated, and not very bright demographic sewn up. :)

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              AndyG55

              Oh, I didn’t know you were a Trump supporter.

              Because you certainly belong in the not very bright demographic.

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              AndyG55

              Good thing for the crooks have they have the media to back them, otherwise no-one would know they even existed.

              Off you run to get you copy of your favourite Fauxfacts rag.. ..
              …if you can find one that hasn’t been used for birdcage droppings.

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          Yonniestone

          Well the Clinton’s are certainly getting a lot of global attention via verified evidence for behaviour far worse than a couple of gaffes, but that’a ok with you because the means justifies the end?

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          PhilJourdan

          He never said the first, and the second was a private conversation. The 3rd is true.

          So you want to lie about what he said, expose all private conversations (where are Hillary’s?) and force HIM to lie because you do not like the truth?

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        Power Grab

        I totally believe Trump has been playing the game he had to play to keep the MSM pay attention to him. If had played the part of a reasonable, decent human being, they would have ignored him and let Hillary have all the headlines. He gave them what they crave.

        These days, with the media focusing on scummy characters any time they’re not licking the boots of their masters, a decent person wouldn’t have a chance.

        Decent people who still love America can see through his ruse and understand why he must play the part he has played.

        Unprincipled, greedy lifetime politicians hate him. Check.

        The unprincipled MSM who love nothing more than a dirty story hate him. Check.

        The most evil Democrats hate him. Check.

        Bureaucrats who consider illegal immigrants to be their key to guaranteed job security hate him. Check.

        I have seen items on social media that reveal Trump is conferring with Christians. Check.

        The coffee is brewing. Folks are awake and smelling it.

        Brexit was an inspiration. Lots of British folks played it close to the vest when pollsters asked which way they would vote. Then they voted their hearts when the time came.

        I think during this whole election season (going back a year?) I have seen very few signs or bumper stickers in favor of either candidate. I remember seeing only one bumper stick for Hillary. In just the past couple of weeks, I am seeing yard signs (big ones) for Trump. Not lots of them, but more than Hillary signs.

        I keep being reminded of a kid’s movie “A Bug’s Life” where the majority (the ants) finally realized their power in repelling the evil minority (the grasshoppers who were bullying them). When the ants turned on the grasshoppers and drove them off, there were fireworks (so to speak), but they did what they had to do and regained control of their island. As it turns out (spoiler alert!), they had enlisted the assistance of a group of bugs that they thought were warriors, but actually were clowns. But they had what it took to win the day. Many ants surprised themselves when it was all over. They would never have believed they could have won that battle.

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          Power Grab

          There is another kid’s movie that keeps coming to mind: “The Princess and the Frog”. The character Dr. Facilier is in deep debt to his “friends on the other side” for his power. Whenever he starts losing control of the people he has snookered, you can see him really come unglued. Our Democrat candidate appears to be in that situation.

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    Analitik

    Another great Scott Adams article – Unhypnotizing a Clinton Supporter

    In my opinion, Trump might be the safest president we have ever had. He can lead the dark parts of his base toward the light (as Nixon went to China) and he has no incentive for war. Claims about his “temperament” are mostly about his penchant for insults, and that isn’t a mortal danger to anyone.

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      Analitik

      And The Dehypnotizing has Begun

      My blog post won’t dehypnotize hardcore Democrats who consider their political affiliation part of their identity. But you might want to try it with that group anyway just to watch the cognitive dissonance that arises. Trust me when I say it will be hilarious. You will get to watch a total abandonment of any pretense of rational thought along with – I assume – a frantic attempt to change the topic.

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    pat

    ignore MSM meme that both candidates are trying to short up their base:

    30 Oct: WaPo: In final sprint, Trump targets Democratic states while Clinton tries to gin up enthusiasm among minorities

    Trump schedule:
    Saturday: Florida, North Carolina, Nevada & Colorado
    Sunday: Iowa, Minnesota, Michigan, Pennsylvania, Virginia
    Monday: Florida, North Carolina, Pennsylvania, New Hampshire

    Twitter: GOP Report
    Trump’s website says these states are in play: Colorado, Minnesota, Wisconsin, Michigan, Virginia, Pennsylvania, New Mexico, & New Hampshire

    5 Nov: Breitbart: Patrick Howley: Donald Trump: ‘We’re Winning All Over the Place. They’re Going Crazy’
    Republican presidential contender Donald Trump returned to his classic “Winning” theme at charged-up rallies in Tampa, Florida and Wilmington, North Carolina Friday.
    The building tycoon is even surprising the press with his high energy in the final hours of his battle to reclaim American sovereignty…
    “We’re winning in North Carolina. We’re winning in Ohio. We’re winning in New Hampshire. We’re winning in Iowa. We’re winning in Florida. We’re winning all over the place. They’re going crazy,” Trump said of the press.
    “We’re winning almost everywhere, folks. This is going to be Brexit. This is going to be special.”

    Clinton:
    Saturday: Florida (Broward County just added – obviously not yet safe for Clinton)
    Sunday: Ohio, New Hampshire
    Monday: Pennsylvania

    5 Nov: GatewayPundit: Jim Hoft: HILLARY Pens In Small Crowd in Florida – Then RAIN SOAKS THEM (VIDEO)
    PIC: The campaign crammed the small crowd into a pen.
    Then it started pouring…
    http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2016/11/washed-rain-soaks-hillarys-small-crowd-florida-video/

    5 Nov: Seattle Times: Shift among Cuban American voters could deliver Florida to Donald Trump
    “Cubans return to Trump,” read a sub-headline of The New York Times Upshot/Siena University poll released Oct. 27, which gave Trump a four-point lead in Florida…

    4 Nov: CNBC: Tae Kim: Wall Street contemplates possibility of a Republican sweep as Trump gains in polls

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    pat

    3 Nov: Daily Caller: Richard Pollock: Clinton Foundation Doctored Key Memo On Its HIV Drug Program
    Clinton Foundation officials gave PolitiFact a doctored version of a 2008 memo lauding its HIV/AIDS program presumably to defend against congressional charges that the charity distributed “watered down” drugs to poor patients on the African continent, according to new information acquired by The Daily Caller News Foundation’s Investigative Group.
    The altered memo went to PolitiFact Sept. 21, three days after TheDCNF published a story titled, “Clinton Foundation AIDS Program Distributed ‘Watered-Down’ Drugs To Third World Countries.” (LINK)…
    The substandard drugs lead back to Ranbaxy, a generic Indian pharmaceutical company. The Clinton Foundation distributed the drugs via its Clinton Health Access Initiative (CHAI), all without telling recipients about the medication’s problems. The AIDS drug program has long been the centerpiece of the Clinton Foundation’s public reputation.
    Two days after receiving the altered memo from the Clinton Foundation, PolitiFact published a critique that concluded TheDCNF’s story was “false.” PolitiFact’s critique relied heavily on the altered document…READ ON
    http://dailycaller.com/2016/11/03/politifact-used-doctored-clinton-foundation-memo-on-its-hivaids-program/

    5 Nov: Youtube: 2mins41secs: Fox News: Black Prof Kiron Skinner: Black Voters Are Breaking to Trump
    Carnegie Mellon University professor Kiron Skinner went off on Obama and his race-baiting on the campaign trail yesterday. Professor Kiron believes black voters are breaking to Trump because he is talking about jobs and the plight of the black community.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=osUV8oo-nyQ

    29 Aug: Youtube: 4mins36secs: Dr. Martin Luther King’s niece Alveda King endorses Donald Trump & his plan of changes
    Dr. Martin Luther King’s niece Alveda King endorses Donald Trump and his strategy for reuniting America and restoring opportunities for the black community.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PBISbypnMHQ

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    5 Nov: DesMoines Register: Jason Noble: Iowa Poll: Trump opens 7-point lead over Clinton
    Donald Trump has surged to a 7-point lead over Democratic rival Hillary Clinton among Iowa voters, firmly establishing the Republican presidential nominee as the favorite to win the state’s six electoral votes on Tuesday…
    To Walter, the numbers suggest Iowa Republican leaders’ support of Trump is helping sway Republicans and independent voters, who are undeterred by questions about his character and temperament. Such factors are critical, she said, because Trump’s path to the White House likely depends on an Iowa victory…
    Forty-one percent of independents support Trump, compared to 34 percent who back Clinton. Trump likewise leads by 5 percentage points — 43 to 38 — among voters under 35…
    http://www.desmoinesregister.com/story/news/politics/iowa-poll/2016/11/05/iowa-poll-trump-opens-7-point-lead-over-clinton/93347134/

    4 Nov: UK Daily Mail: PIERS MORGAN: Get off your high horse, Hillary. Only ONE candidate is up to her neck in FBI probes and her name isn’t Donald
    I’ve interviewed Bill Clinton twice, for CNN.
    On both occasions, the request was only granted once I had agreed to moderate a panel for the former president at his annual Clinton Global Initiative event in aid of Clinton Foundation.
    It was a strict quid-pro-quo: Bill would scratch my back if I scratched his.
    So I scratched away, as do many other TV journalists each year who want an interview with him.
    There’s a similar pattern to almost everything in Planet Clinton: they trade favours.
    But when that trade involves millions of dollars raked into personal bank accounts on the back of charity donations, it stinks to high heaven…READ ALL
    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3902876/PIERS-MORGAN-high-horse-Hillary-one-candidate-neck-FBI-probes-isn-t-Donald.html

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    ***********************BREAKING!!!!

    5 Nov: Washington Examiner: Jeremy Lott: Security rushed Trump off the stage at Reno rally
    Security rushed GOP presidential candidate Donald Trump off the stage at a rally in Reno, Nevada, Saturday night.
    This story will be updated.
    http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/article/2606596/

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    pat

    JUST CHECKED FOX NEWS:

    “TRUMP BACK ON STAGE AFTER SECURITY SCARE”

    CNN: says Security jumped into crowd to subdue someone.

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    In past years, I have live blogged the U.S. elections at my home site, usually a relatively easy thing, as the count is done during our daylight hours on Wednesday.

    While the (Australian) ABC News24 is covering it live, I think I might still stick to the source I mostly use, and that’s the Politico site at this link.

    As you can see, it’s relatively easy to navigate with the links along the top there for the President, the Senate, the House, and the Governors.

    While House Reps get two years, the Senators get 6 years, as they do here in Oz, only while our Oz Senators get a half Senate election, hence two (nominally) three year terms, in the U.S. they have their Senate run at a third of the Senators up for re-election, hence three two year terms, so the same six years, as here in Oz.

    That Politico sit is updated every few seconds, so it’s usually first with results as they come in. The best thing about watching it at this site as opposed to on the ABC News24 coverage, is that there will be no damned talking heads blubbering on about it.

    Coverage at that Politico site should start around 7.30AM my time which is 8.30 Eastern Summer Time here in Oz, or 5.30AM in the West.

    It’s probably one of the most comprehensive sites for election results coverage I have ever seen.

    Well worth watching this year.

    Tony.

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      Egor TheOne

      Just had a look at your suggested link.
      Have downloaded, looks good.
      Thanks Tony.

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      Analitik

      It could be worth watching the ABC to see the talking heads get all flustered and confused as results fail to correlate to the MSM polling. That’s the hope anyway.

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    ***not sure if he was finished, but he was unceremoniously removed, as the small crowd cheered & applauded what he was saying:

    5 Nov: Heavy.com: Stephanie Dube Dwilson: Student Gives Speech About How ‘Terrible Clinton Is’ at Bernie Rally FOR Clinton [VIDEO 1min46secs]
    A student who spoke before Bernie Sanders at a Sanders rally for Clinton dumped his script and spoke out against Clinton instead. You can watch the video of his speech above.
    The student, Kaleb Vanfosson, president of the Students for Bernie Club and the Young Democratic Socialists group at Iowa State, was supposed to give a speech at the Ames, Iowa rally about Sanders and Clinton supporters uniting, the Iowa State Daily reported. Instead, he spoke about how terrible Clinton is and how she only cares about billionaires.
    He was escorted off stage ***after his speech…
    “The only thing she cares about is clearing her debt … to billionaires… The only people who can really trust Hillary are Goldman Sachs… The military industrial complex can trust Hillary. Her good friend Henry Kissinger can trust Hillary.” At that point, the crowd cheered.
    Vanfosson told the The Iowa State Daily that he was “basically assaulted” after being escorted off stage…
    http://heavy.com/news/2016/11/watch-student-introducing-bernie-at-clinton-rally-says-clinton-terrible-video-of-speech-kaleb-vanfosson-youtube/

    from Iowa State Daily link:

    “She is so trapped in the world of the elite,” Vanfosson said. “She has completely lost grip of what it’s like to be an average person.”
    Vanfosson said the only thing Clinton cares about is the billionaires that fund her election…
    Vanfosson told the Iowa State Daily that while being escorted out he was “basically assaulted.” Vanfosson said he does have footage of the incident…

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    some repetition from Yore’s Oct 24 piece posted on earlier thread of jo’s, but also some new bits:

    4 Nov: The Remnant: Elizabeth Yore: WikiLeaks Bombshell: The Soros/Clinton/Vatican Partnership
    Thanks to WikiLeaks, we learn that in preparation for the U.S. Papal September visit, the Vatican proactively sought input from the most radical fringe of the Democratic Left. Is this Pope Francis’ idea of his peaceful ‘dialogue and encounter?
    All roads to the Francis Vatican lead back to George Soros…

    Within weeks of the new Francis papacy, Jeffrey Sachs—a longtime member of George Soros’ brain trust, also a recipient of $50 million of Soros funds, and top UN official—was invited to and featured as the Vatican’s premiere expert on the radical climate change agenda.
    As indication of his favored status, Sachs spoke at the Vatican 18 times during the first years of Francis papacy. Sachs orchestrated the UN/Vatican alliance on climate change and assured the Pope Francis seal of approval on the UN Sustainable Development Goals and Paris Climate Treaty, inaugurating the globalist agenda. Several Soros confidantes and advisors, are firmly entrenched at the Vatican’s Pontifical Academy of Social Sciences promoting the UN/Soros environmental globalist agenda, and the anti-capitalist Occupy Wall Street protests…
    http://remnantnewspaper.com/web/index.php/fetzen-fliegen/item/2853-wikileaks-bombshell-george-soros-using-francis-papacy

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      Oliver K. Manuel

      Thanks, pat, for reminding us that the Vatican’s Pontifical Academy of Sciences is now promoting the UN/Soros environmental globalist agenda, just as the Catholic Church tried to deny Copernicus’s 1543 claim that the Sun controls planet Earth.

      What was religious dogma in 1543 is now “consensus science” in 2016.

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        As Saint Simon (1760–1825), the founding father of Christian Socialism (which term, as a Christian, makes me heave) put it:

        A scientist, my friends, is a man who predicts; it is because science gives us the means to predict that it is useful and that scientists [les savantes] are superior to all other men.

        Does this ‘superiority’ sum up the wide eyed effervescence of people such as Tim Flannery? No need for predictions to match measured results, or for measurement itself to be controlled in an unbiased and truly scientific fashion. Saint Simon also proselytized:

        I think that all classes of society would be happy in the following situation: spiritual power in the hands of the scientists; temporal power in those of the proprietors [property owners]; power to nominate those called upon to carry out the functions of the great leaders of mankind in the hands of everyone; the reward for those who govern to be — esteem.

        That a so called ‘Christian’ would promote spiritual power being held totally within a material science highlights the overbearing relevance of his Socialist label, and the defunct nature of any religious pretense.

        But what if the media, academic institutes, and government science bureaus such as the CSIRO, are influenced by the top 1% of Proprietors? … Saint Simon’s teachings become no more useful to the common good than the dumbed-down, engineered, and manipulated opinions of the Proles in Orwell’s 1984 … back to the Dark Ages we go.

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    Analitik

    Tonight on Channel 9 at 9:30pm – “The Mad World of Donald Trump”
    Coincidence, right?

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    Just an update on what current American legal processes and precedents will bring when Hillary is Coronated (the election is completely rigged folks … right down to George Soros being the controlling investor of electronic voting machines in over 15+ States):

    1 - A U.S. President cannot be prosecuted in office, because they control the AG, and a Supreme Court ruling in 1973 affirmed that prosecution of a sitting President is not possible, and that Impeachment by Congress is the only method to remove a President from office which then, and only then, will remove prosecution immunity.

    2 - An Impeachment can ONLY be proceeded against a U.S. President for an impeachable offense COMMITTED WHILST IN OFFICE; meaning, as President, not during any previous office held, such as Sec. State under a previous Administration.

    3 - A sitting U.S. President can in theory, with no legal precedent to indicate otherwise, pardon themselves for ANY crime committed or charge against themselves … however, a pardon is in fact an admission of guilt (as per court rulings).

    … meaning:

    1 - A President elect Hillary Clinton will be untouchable for at least 4 years, unless she commits an impeachable offense whilst in office, in which case Congress can initiate the only possible process of removing her.

    2 - She can pardon herself up until her last day in office, garnering her at least 4 years, and if re-elected in the next election, has an additional 4 years immunity before having to pardon herself.

    3 - This will give the Democrats another 4-8 years of control over the AG’s office, which has already been the most perverse period in U.S. history, allowing the AG to chip away at the FBI, using dirty tactics to slowly remove any real opposition within the FBI.

    The legal case: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_R2liGGHO9g

    When elected, Hillary will also be able to nominate up to THREE Supreme Court Justices, meaning that she will also be able to stack the SCOTUS severely to the left, with characters just as partisan as Loretta Lynch. Thus, if any possible legal proceedings are able to break through precedent, and to generate an instance of precedent being made in the present, the SCOTUS is more likely to rule in Clinton’s favor.

    Basically, when Hillary ‘wins’ – which she will – the U.S. will have affirmed that the almost completely broken electoral college system will become fully broken, disallowing any future Republican to gain office … making the U.S a One Party State which simply holds a sham ‘election’ every 4 years to maintain the use of the word ‘democracy’, with an MSM which will allow a controlled opposition to graciously lose each cycle, granting some Rhino’s the ability to sit in the Senate or Congress (ala, Augustus Caesar).

    So, hope a miracle happens and the Establishment backs off, allowing Trump to win this election, otherwise, prepare for full tilt tyranny. In my opinion, the One Party State was assured in 2008 with the first instance of ‘first ever’ _______ President (fill in oppressed demographic identity ticket … rinse, repeat).

    All she needs is 4 years to totally break the southern border, import more fundamentalists, and make a total mockery out of the U.S. ‘Justice’ system, and the demoralized nation once known as the ‘free world’ will be a completely pathetic banana republic (like most western countries ruled by bureaucratic authoritarianism now are). Pardon my cynicism, but by Nov 9th, the last nail will be hammered into the coffin of Liberty.

    The countdown clock will then begin for the full destruction of the first two Constitutional Amendments, on which all Amendments hang. ‘Climate Change Skeptics’ will be legally defined as Racketeers … Breitbart, Drudge Report, and others, will become subject to ‘hate speech’ witch hunting. In every leftist ‘liberal’, there is an authoritarian screaming to jump out.

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    Ross Stacey

    From the ABC this morning. U.S. Breaking news. The FBI has found no evidence of criminality in latest batch of Hilary Clinton emails

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      PhilJourdan

      That is the “spin”. What he actually said was that he did not find additional evidence, beyond what they already had, to pursue the case. He already found evidence of criminality. But he claimed she would never be convicted of it.

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        Mark Fraser

        The money phrase suggested that the probability of a successful conviction was such that no DoJ prosecutor was likely to take it on. I interpreted that to indicate that it might be folly or outright dangerous to take on the Clinton family in court. Figuratively speaking, I extended that opinion to suggest that a pile of careers if not more might result. Nothing to see here.
        On the other hand, Comey’s wording in the July statement was reported to have defined the crime clearly, and other opinions pointed out that “intent” was not part of the particular law(s) involved. He did not withdraw any of the definition in subsequent statements.

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    Oliver K. Manuel

    May President Trump now ask
    NASA, IS THE SUN A PULSAR?

    Oliver K. Manuel
    Former NASA Principal
    Investigator for Apollo

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    Orson

    TRUMP ELECTED! Penn calls it for Trump!

    (Unlikely possible savior of the Great Republic….[sh....])

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