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Dems killing Democracy? — Massive Voter Fraud for “50 years” and paid activists at Trump rallies.

Two damning videos released. Two heads claimed.

Allegedly, these schemes to illegally bus in false voters and to disrupt Trump rallies with deliberate violence, were approved “at the highest level” of the DNC. The second scalp claimed here (Bob Creamer) admitted on video that Clinton is aware of “all” of his work.

Project Veritas Undercover Video: Democrats Caused Violence at Trump Rallies: Paying leftist agitators, the homeless and the mentally ill, to cause melees at Trump rallies.

“Conflict engagement” means paying leftist agitators, the homeless and the mentally ill, to cause melees at Trump rallies.

Why isn’t the mainstream media apart from Fox News covering this new scandal? …

In terms of dollars donated to the Clinton and Trump campaigns, journalists favor Clinton by a factor of 27 to 1…

This newly revealed Reichstag fire of a plot by Democrats at the highest levels is “a direct assault on democracy and the rule of law,” former House Speaker Newt Gingrich (R-Ga.) told Sean Hannity on Fox News Channel last night. “This is a hundred times bigger than Watergate.” …


Project Veritas: Dem Op Caught on Tape Explaining How They Get Away With Massive Voter Fraud, by Debra Heine.


Hannity discusses the fall out from the first video:

Two heads have already rolled today:

…one of the key players exposed by O’Keefe has already lost his job.

Scott Foval, the National Field Director of Americans United for Change–who can be seen in the video bragging about paying homeless and mentally ill individuals to cause disruptions at political events–has been fired from the organization.

“Americans United for Change has always operated according to the highest ethical standards,” said Brad Woodhouse, President of Americans United For Change. “Scott Foval is no longer associated with Americans United for Change.”

Second head rolls:

James O’Keefe has collected another scalp as his “Rigging the Election” undercover videos continue to reverberate.

Convicted felon Bob Creamer, the Alinskyite agitator husband of Illinois Socialist Democrat Rep. Jan Schakowsky, is stepping away from his duties with the Clinton campaign because he doesn’t want to be “a distraction in the important task of electing Hillary Clinton.”

The means-to-an-ends crowd can justify winning at any cost. For those convinced that Big-Government will save the world, if there was a chance to rig an election, what would stop them doing it?

Where there are no principles…

UPDATE Breitbart reports on “Bird-dogging” at Trump Rallies

Foval is an expert at “creating ” media events to make opponents look bad.

Foval also tells Project Veritas’s undercover journalist that Republicans are less adept at such tactics because they obey rules: “They have fewer guys willing to step out on the line for what they believe in. … There is a level of adherence to rules on the other side that only when you’re at the very highest level, do you get over.”

In another video, Foval admits that his organization is responsible for an incident in Asheville, North Carolina in September, where an elderly woman was allegedly assaulted outside a Trump rally.

In that incident, the 69-year-old woman, wearing an oxygen tank, heckled a visually impaired 73-year-old Trump supporter, then pursued him. She claimed he then punched her in the jaw, though she had no visible injury; his attorney claims she touched him on the shoulder first, and then fell to the ground as he turned around. The national media covered her claims widely, while largely ignoring his. Foval explains that the woman had been “trained” as a part of his operation.

Foval also explains how the operation is set up to allow the DNC and the Clinton campaign “plausible deniability” in the event that the true nature of the deliberate violence is discovered: “The thing that we have to watch is making sure there’s a double-blind between the actual campaign and the actual DNC and what we’re doing

James O’Keefe from Project Veritas says that if the media covered these videos like they covered the Trump Tape “I guarantee you Trump would win the election”.

O’Keefe talks about the media:

“Trump is a proxy vote,” he continued. “Even if you don’t like Trump per se, personally, he’s the proxy vote against the corrupt media and complacent Establishment because if Trump were to get in, these journalists would lose all their access. They would not be able to have their status quo, and it is literally a fight for their very survival.”

He said mainstream media reports understand that if Trump wins, “they’re sidelined, and they have no power, and they’re panicking right now.”

There is an army of people hammering the media with these stories, but the media, even maybe Fox, is not covering it (yet). O’Keefe speculates that they are afraid of retaliation from a Clinton government. I have personally seen the equivalent thing occur with heads of some of Australia’s largest corporations who said “Labor have long memories”.

“Here’s the thing that didn’t exist eight years ago. Right now, on Twitter, it’s nothing short of a phenomenon,” he said. “I have never, ever seen anything like this. I mean, ten thousand Twitter followers a day, and there’s like thirty thousand people on Reddit – an army who are just tweeting at journalists and emailing journalists, flooding their inboxes: ‘Why the hell aren’t you covering this?’ That didn’t exist. That did not exist eight years ago. We did not have this type of army.”

He expressed some disappointment with Fox News and other outlets that might normally have been willing to break from the mainstream media herd.

“My sources have told me this story was spiked by major – I don’t want to call them ‘friendly,’ but people who you’d think would be friendly to our type of journalism,” O’Keefe revealed. “This story was spiked, last minute, by corporate people. And the reason why they spiked it, I suspect, is because they’re afraid of retaliation and retribution from a Department of Justice, whether a future Hillary Clinton administration, or a current White House Department of Justice.”

Corruption is everywhere.

Third debate is happening tonight.

h/t coming… thanks to Pat, David,

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190 comments to Dems killing Democracy? — Massive Voter Fraud for “50 years” and paid activists at Trump rallies.

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    PeterS

    Ever since the first Project Veritas video was released they have been dropping like flies. Now it’s Bob Creamer’s turn. Going by what’s happening with video #1, video #2 should result in Clinton dropping out of the race and hiding to avoid criminal charges and jail. However, given those fears it’s more likely she will stick to her guns and use any means possible to win. Obama may need to come to the rescue and postpone the election by calling an emergency, such as a fake Russian threat (they have already raised their DEFCON level to 3 last week). Make no mistake about it. She will do anything to win so the next 2 or so weeks will be very revealing to all with eyes to see and brains to think.

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    Take special note of this: Clinton’s defenders in the Democrat-aligned media are straining to detoxify these revelations by defaming James O’Keefe. In the charming phrase of a friend of mine, he’s being called “everything but white.”

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      Rod Stuart

      EXACTLY!!! And the wonder why the Donald refused to answer the question as to whether or not he would challenge if she won!!!!
      Given that the evidence is abundantly clear that she stole teh nomination from Sanders, he has every right to say that she is not a legitimate candidate in the race. Not to mention the evidence of vote rigging.

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    To think I kick warmies every day for free!

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    davefromweewaa

    More power to your foot Moso!

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    David Maddison

    Trump must win this election. It’s the end of Western Civilisation if he doesn’t.

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      PeterS

      Yes he has to win even if he is a buffoon but I doubt he will. The elite will do anything to stop him because they all have too much to lose if he does win. Imagine what he would do as President. They will have to start building more prisons.

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    Lord Jim

    There is an army of people hammering the media with these stories, but the media, even maybe Fox, is not covering it (yet). O’Keefe speculates that they are afraid of retaliation from a Clinton government. I have personally seen the equivalent thing occur with heads of some of Australia’s largest corporations who said “Labor have long memories”.

    What about the people the fourth estate is supposed to protect from government excess.
    I don’t give a damn if they are afraid of ‘retribution’.
    Do your job or democracy fails.

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      Manfred

      LJ, as I have often opined here, the Fourth Estate long betrayed their vocation and abrogated their societal duty. This may have happened as a result of a mixture of the Leftward drift of political neutrality, the growth and spread of political correctness (Cultural Marxism) and the decline in their intellectual caliber, perhaps associated with the wider requirement to ‘dumb down’. These treacherous Progressive eco-Marxists segued smoothly from reporting to manufacturing the news, which is little more than peddled propaganda. They believe wholeheartedly and uncritically in the eco-global Marxist agenda of the UN seen in the paradoxically named ‘UN Sustainable Development Goals’ as they do for example in the present UN Habitat III conference in Ecuador aptly reported on here, “The UN doesn’t like the way you live”.

      To my mind, metaphorically speaking, there just aren’t enough lamp posts.

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    doubtingdave

    Jo ,Jo , JO , you do not know how happy I am to see this article on your site , for years ive watched in despair as commentators on your blog have ripped each other apart because they have either a left or right wing ideology , there is a bird that controls both wings , that wants each wing to argue against each other so that you don’t look up and see the body of the bird that controls both wings , this American election was supposed to be between the Clintons and the Bushes for that reason , well it didn’t work out that way did it , mainly because the Republicans didn’t have the benefit of the super delegates like Clinton had , did they , global warming has never been a stand alone issue , it has always been part of a bigger scheme , which is an attempt to create a new world order , a global empire that along with so called free trade deals would lead to a new medieval style feudal system . I’m so happy that you are at last beginning to explore that possibility on your blog , thankyou and all the best

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      OriginalSteve

      DD I have been saying for ages the same applies to little ‘ol Australia, but I am not sure if it has actually sunk in though…. you have echoed my own thoughts on the matter.

      I think Australians need to actually wake up and realise they are a very small tail on a very large dog – we are irrelevent except that we are part of what the NWO mob call “the functioning core” – by “functioning” thye mean everyone and everything is controlled by them.

      The “non integrating core” is any govt that holds out against the globalists – this is one of th emain reasons Libya and Syria have been flattened – to kick out the dictators who wouldnt play ball with the globalists.

      If people want to gain wisdon, they need to read “The Pentagons New Map” – it outlines the literal shape of things to come – which countries will lose territory, which will gain it.

      It will literally reshape the middle east, according to the NWO plan.

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    doubtingdave

    The fact is the Republican party is far more open and honourable than the Democrats , that’s why the Bushes failed and why Trump stood as a republican , with the democrats it was rigged from the start , Sanders never stood a chance , you might not like Trump , but boy has he exposed the Washington elite for what they are , and that’s why I’m on the Trump Train

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    David Maddison

    After having watched the videos, I am more convinced than ever that there is nothing the American Left would not do to win, including murdering Trump. Please keep yourself safe, Mr Trump.

    Of course, this has implications for our Leftards here in Australia as well. I think they are just as evil and corrupt.

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      Yonniestone

      My parents taught me at a young age about the two different types of people, the American Left are the second type and from personal experience they are immoral trash, fight them with no rules, no hesitation, no mercy, for that is how they’re fighting us!

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      Ted O'Brien.

      The only restraint that stops a Marxist is the knowledge that arrest will ensue. For a Marxist, any Marxist, the truth is anything he/she can persuade you to believe that increases his/her power over you.

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        OriginalSteve

        When a marxist talks of “peace”, they mean the peace of the grave…..for you…if you disagree…

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          David Maddison

          The same as with their temporary allies, the followers of a certain seventh century pyschopathic war lord.

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    bobl

    What I don’t get is why Congress has not impeached Hillary? They have that right, there is plenty of evidence? She is in contempt of Congress among other things.

    Roy, are you there somewhere, can you speculate why, you know the American system?

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      PeterS

      I would have thought one first must become a President before impeachment can occur. Also note that her husband was impeached but I think it was unusually retracted. Even so the elite are too powerful and impeachment of her if she became President will be made impossible without lots of money. I hope Trump continues the fight in that case.

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        Len

        Bill Clinton told the Republicans if they impeached him, he would take them with him. Hence the withdrawal.

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        Reed Coray

        According to Andrew McCarthy, a former assistant U.S. attorney for the Southern District of New York and who writes in part for the National Review, impeachment does not apply only to the President/Vice President and/or to people currently holding office. It can apply to many current and former government officials. IMO Mr. McCarthy may not be the most effective anti-democrat (that title probably goes to Rush Limbaugh or possibly Mark Steyn), but Mr. McCarthy is going away the most reasonable and lucid. He doesn’t try to be witty. His comments are reasoned and factual. I recommend everyone read his NRO comments. A must read is one such comment (6 September 2016, http://www.nationalreview.com/article/439715/impeach-hillary-clinton-congress-has-power-do-it) that addressed the issue of impeaching Hillary Clinton for her actions as Secretary of State. He is much more eloquent than I am, so I’ll only reproduce a potion of what he wrote and let you read his column in its entirety. He wrote:

        The point of impeachment is to deny power to any person — not necessarily an incumbent official — whose high crimes and misdemeanors have demonstrated unfitness for a high public trust.”

        Enjoy!

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        Presidential impeachment is the similar to a criminal indictment. Once impeached (indicted), the case goes to trial in the US Senate. In both instances of presidential impeachment — Bill Clinton and Andrew Johnson, there was no conviction.

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      Roy Hogue

      Bob,

      I shouldn’t read this thread because I see something that asks my view and I feel compelled to answer.

      Congress can only impeach someone who is currently in office in an official capacity, someone who has the authority to commit or at least begin the process of committing the United States Government to some course of action or agreement, the equivalent of a military officer rank. Since Hillary is no longer Secretary of state she cannot be touched by congress. As a senator she could have been dealt with by the senate had they grounds based on senate rules or criminal activity and chose to follow those grounds to wherever they led. But in any case, impeachment or removal from office as a senator can only do one thing, remove someone from office and nothing more. Impeachment requires only a simple majority in the House but then the Senate must try the matter and conviction requires a 2/3 majority.

      Frankly, that’s a really high bar to get over. So it’s tempting to want it to be easier to get someone out of office. But I’m not sure that’s wise. If it’s too easy we would see it being done for simple political disagreement and frankly, for revenge against the other party once things change hands. The best procedure against Hillary Clinton would be prosecution by the Justice Department and let a judge and jury sort it all out. But there is more than enough evidence, although it’s not even begun to be vetted, that FBI Director Comey has a bad conflict of interest in dismissing any charge against her. We may or may not eventually see where that leads.

      So here we sit. And for Donald Trump to say, as he has said repeatedly, that she shouldn’t be permitted to run (for president) has no basis in the constitution or any law that I know of. And it display’s Trump’s ignorance of what he’s trying to get himself into and most of the reason why I hoped I would never have to vote for him. He doesn’t know what he’s talking about when it comes to operation of the government. He correctly identifies the problems but I can find any number of people who can do that. What I can’t find are those who show me they can solve those problems.

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        Wendy

        Roy, that’s not quite right. There actually IS legal code that because of her mishandling of government documents it should prevent her from any government position. I’m on the road (on the way to Formula 1 races) but will try and find the code later.

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        Wendy

        18 U.S. Code § 2071 – Concealment, removal, or mutilation generally

        Current through Pub. L. 114-38. (See Public Laws for the current Congress.)
        US Code
        Notes
        Authorities (CFR)
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        (a) Whoever willfully and unlawfully conceals, removes, mutilates, obliterates, or destroys, or attempts to do so, or, with intent to do so takes and carries away any record, proceeding, map, book, paper, document, or other thing, filed or deposited with any clerk or officer of any court of the United States, or in any public office, or with any judicial or public officer of the United States, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than three years, or both.
        (b) Whoever, having the custody of any such record, proceeding, map, book, document, paper, or other thing, willfully and unlawfully conceals, removes, mutilates, obliterates, falsifies, or destroys the same, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than three years, or both; and shall forfeit his office and be disqualified from holding any office under the United States. As used in this subsection, the term “office” does not include the office held by any person as a retired officer of the Armed Forces of the United States.
        (June 25, 1948, ch. 645, 62 Stat. 795; Pub. L. 101–510, div. A, title V, § 552(a), Nov. 5, 1990, 104 Stat. 1566; Pub. L. 103–322, title XXXIII, § 330016(1)(I), Sept. 13, 1994, 108 Stat. 2147.)

        according to this Hillary is not eligible to hold office.

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      clive

      RINO’s is short for “Republican in name only”Same as we have the ALP and Liberals but they are “No different”Both Left leaning.

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    AndyG55

    I hope many people have these videos on their drives.

    before the videos get “disappeared”

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      PeterS

      The Internet is by design very tolerant both in terms of connectivity and content. The only way for the corrupt elite to turns things around is to take control of the Internet itself, which has been their intentions for some time now. Even if they succeed I’m almost certain we will find a way around it.

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        Greg Cavanagh

        The older form of internet, the usernet, still exists and is still resilient.

        Either that, or new protocols will be invented. The example and demonstration has been given, so an attempted wipeout of the existing will result in a new beast being invented over the corpse of the old network, far more secretive and far more resilient.

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    philthegeek

    Interesting distraction. :) Actually , if the Repuglican candidate was any one else, the i think Hillary would be behind. but, they have Trump, and most of the “damage” he has suffered from has been obviously self inflicted. Its not being “done” to him. He’s doing it to himself.

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      PeterS

      The other Republican candidates wre just puppets of the same elite as the Dems. Trump is not really of the same group – he is his own man so to speak. That’s why the Republicans were against him and even tried to replace him last week for the nth time. The whole corrupt establishment is scared of him.

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        philthegeek

        even tried to replace him last week for the nth time.

        Peter, from my reading the whole process is, overall, too far advanced for the Repubs to replace Trump as their candidate for President. Ballot papers already printed, people have already done early voting. As far as i am aware there is NO actual mechanism for the Republicans to replace Trump at this point.

        With the same pollsters like Nate silver effectively writing Trump off as being crushed like a bug, all the significance of Nov 8th focuses on the Congressional elections happening.

        And its a lot more than the “corrupt establishment” or “lefties” that are scared of Trump.

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        Reed Coray

        Because I was once a registered Republican and in the past have donated to the Republican Party, I am on the receiving end of a multitude of emails telling me that if I don’t donate to the Republican Party before 8 November, the end of the world is nigh. This year I’m almost as angry with the Republicans as I am with the democrats–almost. IMO the stupidity of the Republican Party Leadership is breathtaking. By voicing opinions held by many rank-and-file conservatives (including myself), Donald Trump, who IMO is an egotistical, self-serving opportunist, has thoroughly trounced every democrat-lite candidate put forward by the Republican Party Leadership. Instead of (a) waking up and smelling the coffee (i.e., the level of anger/frustration held by many rank-and-file conservatives, and (b) putting forth an alternate Republican candidate that agrees with or even amplifies Mr. Trump’s opinions, the Republican Party leadership has (a) put forth a parade of democrat-lite candidates, and (b) actively tried to defeat Mr. Trump even after he became the Republican Presidential nominee. I am fed up to the degree that I respond to every Republican email soliciting donations with a version of the following:

        Dear (fill-in-the-blank) Republican Bigwig

        You keep sending me emails telling me that if I don’t contribute to the Republican Party, dire consequences will follow. I have a question for you. Which Republican Party do you want me to contribute to: the Trump faction or the anti-Trump faction led by Paul Ryan? I can’t decide, so I’ll forego any contributions. Below is a repeat of comments I have sent to you in the past.

        Ladies and Gentlemen of the Republican Party:

        I am incapable of voting for any democrat at any time in any election. In the past, lacking knowledge of the non-democrat candidates I have voted for the Republican candidate. Not this year. In addition to this email asking me to donate to the Republican Party at the national level so that the Republicans can maintain control of the House and Senate, I recently received an email from the California Republican Party asking me to pledge my local and state votes to Republican candidates. I responded to the California request with the following missive:

        In your email request for my pledge of support, you state that “… now is the time to unite the party…” I didn’t know the Republican Party had joined the Improv Comedy Circuit. At the present time, the two most powerful Republicans in the country are Speaker of the House Paul Ryan and Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell. Both of these important Republicans can’t or won’t wholeheartedly support the Republican nominee for President. The fact that you, the Republican Party, can’t see the obvious contradiction in on the one hand asking average citizens to unite behind the party and on the other hand displaying party disunity at the top levels is yet additional confirmation that the Republican Party is being led by a bunch of dummies. The Republican Party leadership is so hell bent on saving the Party and their positions of power that they’ve lost sight of the real goal–save the nation. I am as staunch an anti-democrat as there is in this country–not because I want to save the Republican Party, but because I want to save the nation. I care about the Republican Party only to the degree it fights the true enemies of this country–the democrats. When and if I become convinced that the Republican Party is more interested in the country than the party, I may pledge support. As it stands now, I am NOT committed to voting for a bunch of namby pamby Republicans in November. I think Donald Trump is an egotistical, self-centered prick; but as bad as he is, he’s infinitely better than the Wicked Witch of the World, Hillary Clinton. So you can (a) send me emails until you’re blue in the face, (b) call me on the telephone until my ear gets sore, and (c) send me written letters until my fingers bleed from opening the envelopes and all you, the Republican Party, will get from me is contempt. Please forward this message to the chief namby pambies–Mr. McConnell and Mr. Ryan; and let them know that in one conservative voter’s opinion, they are a disgrace to conservatism and are the primary reasons I won’t take your pledge.

        I repeat, this year at the local, state, and national levels I am going to vote for independent or libertarian candidates, not Republicans. The reason being that I am tired of the self-serving wishy-washy behavior of the Republican Party leadership. As far as corruption is concerned, Hillary Clinton is a target rich environment. Yet when a video of Donald Trump making inappropriate comments surfaces, what does the leadership of the Republican Party do? Instead of saying something like: “Mr. Trump was wrong to say what he did. He has apologized for those comments. However, compared to Hillary Clinton and the stink that surrounds her, Donald Trump is a saint. Examples of her corruption abound: insider trading resulting in a $100,000 payoff when Bill Clinton first took office; as Secretary of State participating by inaction in the death of American Citizens and then lying about it to save her butt; influence peddling associated with her charitable foundation; and her wanton and despicable handling of classified data and her subsequent lying and illegal erasures of evidence that proves her guilt.” I ask again, what does the leadership of the Republican Party do when faced with a blemish on Donald Trump? It runs for cover faster than high school girls at an acne convention. The Republican Party’s response to Mr. Trump’s inappropriate comments is definitely stupid and borders on cowardice. Republican candidates at the congressional level believe that by distancing themselves from Donald Trump, they increase their chances of being elected and maintaining control of the House and Senate. Well in my case, the reverse is going to happen. For the third and last time, with the possible exception of Donald Trump, this year I will NOT vote for any local, state, or national Republican candidate.

        Sincerely,
        Reed Coray

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          H. Jorgan

          Reed,
          Perhaps if no congress critter running for re-election were so re-elected, congress itself may get the message. IFAIK there is no need to re-elect anyone! This USA has gobs of folk that even trying hard, could not do as bad a job as what we have elected!
          Just imagine the critters only having one short term to accomplish something that folk back home might appreciate!

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          PeterPetrum

          Gee, Reed, why didn’t you say what you mean!!

          A great letter that will probably never get to it’s target. I had exactly the same experience with my local MP when I wrote her about Turnbull’s renewable energy policy – complete silence.

          Good luck on the 8th Nov, old mate, the US needs all the luck it can get.

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      doubtingdave

      your on a Australian blog Phil , that’s what you have to understand , Assange is a Aussie , do you want to cut him lose or defend him

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        doubtingdave

        your reply will tell me what I need to know about you , or whether your genuine or just another asshole

        [Let's watch the language. Keep it civil or we may snip comments. Good discussion and debate does not need the term asshole and certainly doesn't need to see anyone called an asshole -- or any other name. Thanks.] AZ

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          philthegeek

          Assange is a Aussie , do you want to cut him lose or defend him

          Ok, lets distract / divert onto Assange. :)

          I think there is much dubious about that whole case as far as extradition to Sweden is concerned. The way its played out seems to indicate that Assange is right to have some concerns about getting bumped to the yanks as there has been plenty of opportunities for the Swedes to do their investigation properly without insisting on extradition.

          My overall take out? Be careful about where wee willie parks in Sweden. Pick a spot and park it, don’t shop around.

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    Yonniestone

    As the compliant media has been proven to become so toxic it cannot function in the spirit of democracy then take away its food supply and let it die, the new age of information will and has become online blogs that started out exactly as the once great institutions of free press we now see disgraced, small but passionate about upholding the foundations of free speech.

    Give me the liberty to know, to utter and to argue freely according to conscience above all liberties.

    In my humble opinion Joanne Nova has become one of the best topical writers online and runs circles around the spineless sellouts that pose as journalists today, my eternal thanks is to the few whose courage did not fail them when outnumbered by the many that did.

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      PeterS

      I concur. The mainstream media is now a waste of space and the alternative sources on the Internet are rapidly taking over. It would have been better if the mainstream media remained open, unbiased and honest but they haven’t and have only themselves to blame for their own destruction. I wish the mainstream media a quick death.

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    doubtingdave

    Don’t fall for the bollocks Phil , after all he’s not Bill Clinton is he

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      philthegeek

      after all he’s not Bill Clinton is he

      Absolutely. Bill Clinton was much more competent in geopolitical context regardless of where his willie went. As a non-american its the geopolitical aspect that is most important to me and Trump i has already demonstrated he is a functional moron in that way.

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        doubtingdave

        ANSWER THE QUESTIONS YOU WANT TO . AND SKIP THE ONE’S THAT YOU DON’T . WE ARE NOT YOUR ENEMIES PHIL , WE ARE JUST ORDINARY FOLK AND FREINDS YOU HAVE NOT MET YET

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        el gordo

        Phil the word moron is a spin off from ‘idiot’ the Greek expression meaning ‘person lacking professional skill’.

        Its appropriate in the sense that Donald is outside the mainstream and its of some interest that in Greek society idiots were considered politically unreliable.

        Over time the term shifted to describe someone who was mentally deficient and so it appears Donald is not a functional moron.

        Source:

        Henry George Liddell, Robert Scott, A Greek-English Lexicon

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          philthegeek

          Over time the term shifted to describe someone who was mentally deficient and so it appears Donald is not a functional moron.

          Point taken eg. :)

          I’ll revise my assessment in that he is someone who tries hard to do a remarkably convincing impression of one.

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            Mark D.

            Phil, Tuck your opinion into your alimentary canal. Clearly you are outside of the real world or inside the Hillary camp.

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            el gordo

            Donald is outside groupthink to a great degree and quite different to anything we have ever seen. I reckon after the election Hilary should hire him as a roving ambassador, first job is a trip to North Korea where he’ll meet someone who is a real functional moron.

            It would be a meeting of minds and a remarkable occasion.

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    Ted Lednr

    Hillary will win a Pyrrhic Victory, she will sit in the Oval Office but the majority of Americans will hate her. Eventually as time goes by the journalists have to scoop some drama and they will turn away from Hillary and “Discover” what was missed before the election. Then she will be so on the nose, hated and unwanted that impeachment will follow on her currently known and acknowledged crimes.
    The only thing that could keep that at bay is a war with a major nation like Russia.
    The end justifies the means in the Democrat book.
    Hopefully this will remain a non nuclear event but it only takes one loony tune loose in office, and the US will have one, either way.

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    philthegeek

    Interesting take on the theater of this election.

    Worth a read some great lines if nothing else. :)

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    PeterS

    The thing that scares me even though I don’t live there is if the mainstream media maintain their bias and keep peddling lies after lies against Trump they risk a social upheaval of unprecedented proportions, perhaps even civil war. The media really should rethink their tactics for their own country’s sake.

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    David Maddison

    You MUST watch this…. Please!

    https://youtu.be/_NfFAaPZqs8

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      Annie

      I have; it’s terrifying to think she might be in the White House.

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      Vlad the Impaler

      Posted previously, reminder here: When HRC (Hillary Rodham Clinton, not Human Rights Commission) was First Lady, the Secret Service call sign for her entourage (ground vehicle or aircraft) was “Broomstick One”. Within the Secret Service, being assigned to the HRC detail was considered a form of punishment/disciplinary action (against the offending employee).

      FYI.

      Regards,

      Vlad

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    Bob

    Wow, and in 2010, our Labor party brothers and sisters went to USA to learn techniques and methods of US Democrats, and then apply it here, in Australia… Or was it done earlier, in 2007?

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      Analitik

      Kevin ’07 had all the hallmarks of a presidential campaign so I’d say it was the earlier election.

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    pat

    jo is on my favourite topic, but i want to go o/t first, as this is what is at stake – an attempt to transition from the petrodollar economy to the CO2 emissions-based global economy, based on the scam that is CAGW:

    18 Oct: PublicFinanceInternational: James Richards: More carbon trading could cut cost of climate change mitigation, says World Bank
    Greater global cooperation through carbon trading could reduce the cost of climate change mitigation by 32% by 2030, according to a World Bank report.
    The State and Trends of Carbon Pricing 2016 report (LINK) was released by the bank at an international carbon event in Vietnam today…
    By the middle of this century, an international market has the potential to reduce global mitigation costs by more than 50%, the report found. Also, the goal of limiting emission reductions to meet a 2ºC or lower target, will be difficult to achieve cost-efficiently without more carbon trading…
    John Roome, senior director for climate change at the World Bank said that, to be effective, “carbon pricing policies must be coordinated with other energy and environmental policies – this will require collaboration within and between countries…
    The Paris Agreement, which was reached at COP21 last year, establishes a framework for global cooperation through carbon markets…
    If the Chinese national Emissions Trading System comes into being in 2017 as planned, it would become the largest carbon pricing initiative in the world, surpassing the European Union’s ETS…
    http://www.publicfinanceinternational.org/news/2016/10/more-carbon-trading-could-cut-cost-climate-change-mitigation-says-world-bank

    looks like 100 pages – no time to read tonight:

    World Bank: State and Trends of Carbon Pricing 2016
    Published 2016-10
    Author(s) World Bank, Ecofys, Vivid Economics
    Download English PDF
    https://openknowledge.worldbank.org/handle/10986/25160

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    Mervin

    It’s not that much different in Canada with all the people without proper identification who voted in Canada’s 2015 election.

    But then Team Trudeau’s Gerald Butts (who works in the Canadian Prime Minister’s office) openly admits that they worked on and learned from the Obama campaigns.

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    pat

    AUDIO: 19 Oct: Hotair: Larry O’Connor: O’Keefe: ‘Why the hell isn’t the press covering this?’
    If a Trump SuperPAC was exposed inciting violence at Hillary rallies, do you think the media would cover it? The question answers itself, doesn’t it?
    Yet the latest bombshell videos from James O’Keefe’s have been reduced to “kid on a milk carton” status by network news outlets and most of the cable news networks.
    Yesterday on WMAL in Washington DC I interviewed O’Keefe about the videos and the apparent MSM blackout: AUDIO

    In the nearly 48 hours since O’Keefe’s Project Veritas released a pair of undercover, hidden camera investigations exposing dirty tricks operations from groups affiliated with the Clinton Campaign and the Democratic National Committee, the coverage from mainstream cable news and networks has been virtually nonexistent.
    This despite the fact that two of the high-ranking operatives featured in the videos have been removed from their positions due to the fall-out surrounding the investigation…
    However, going into Tuesday’s prime time news coverage, the story was relegated to the blogosphere, social media and talk radio.

    ***In an exclusive interview with Hot Air, O’Keefe told me this morning: “Bob Creamer visited the White House 340 times. Why the hell isn’t the press covering this video?”…

    So despite both videos trending at the top of YouTube’s rankings the virtual media lackout continues. That could change tonight though. All it would take is a mention of the rigged system narrative from moderator Chris Wallace during the presidential debate. Will he raise the topic? He certainly should.
    If a string of women making accusations without any evidence about Donald Trump’s alleged inappropriate conduct rises to the level of wall-to-wall coverage, surely the kind of behavior caught on video resulting n the removal of two major Democrat operatives should get a mention or two, right?…
    http://hotair.com/archives/2016/10/19/okeefe-hell-isnt-press-covering/

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    John PAK

    I thought we had it bad in Au politics but the Yanks appear to have a professional Punch and Judy show. I’m concerned about who is pulling the strings of this facade called a presidential election.

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    John PAK

    I thought we had it bad in Au politics but the Yanks appear to have a professional Punch and Judy show. I’m concerned about who is pulling the strings of this facade called a presidential election.

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    John PAK

    Does anyone have info on Diego Garcia? Some reckon the tiny airbase is crammed with bombers in preparation for a Middle East offensive.
    While we in the audience watch Punch & Judy the body of the bird, as Dave puts it, is putting all of us in a perilous position.
    (Please delete that duplicate post)

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      Annie

      Putin seems to be sabre-rattling some more.

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      philthegeek

      They may well move more active stuff in there John, but you have to remember that Diego Garcia is not only a staging base for bombers.

      Its also a major depot for equipment they have pre-positioned on ships pretty much permanently moored there. Any kind of increase in tensions in the ME and they will increase the protection levels there.

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    cedarhill

    Living in Chicago during the 1980′s the local news media would report the level of fraud. Surprising, one election cycle they reported voting fraud seemed to be done that year.

    Fact of life in America: non-Democrats candidates have to win by greater than “the margin of fraud”. This year, in the words of Trump, that margin will be simply huge.

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    Tony K

    Please do not wade into American left vs right politics here. There is a lot of bad stuff on both sides. Republicans are not any cleaner than Democrats. If you think they are, look up “confirmation bias” on Wikipedia.

    I really appreciate and respect your views on climate issues. I hope you do not turn this site into a right wing conspiracy theory forum.

    Now give me those downvotes.

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      Tony K, Thanks for visiting. This is no different to the climate debate. It’s government rot, right to the core. Whoever the US citizens vote for everyone should be appalled if another candidate stole it by cheating.

      Anyone who cares about what the Democratic party is supposed to stand for would want this out. This is grand-mal flagrant corruption on display. The only question is how many votes are crooked, and how far up the ranks this goes? The old media have stopped criticizing the worst faults of one side of politics — which is crippling them — the new media is filling the hole. The ABc News tonight ignored the mass scandal completely, but found one or two of the thousands of Trump workers who were unhappy. Maybe one day the ABC will get the internet connected?

      I’m helping the Democrats.

      If the Democratic party machine rot had been exposed 4 years ago, the Democrats might not be fielding the worst candidate they have ever fielded — one who risked US security, deleted 30,000 work emails, took money in donations, millions in speaking fees paid to Bill while Hillary was secretary of state, pay for play, etc etc.

      We do a side a favor by exposing the worst corruption. How else will the good Dems ever have a chance?

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        Jo, I have been calling them the Insane Left, here and elsewhere, since the farcical passing into law of Obamacare in March 2010. Hillary Clinton is NOT the worst candidate they have ever fielded–that title goes to Barack Obama, at whose knee Hillary Clinton has sat, and has aided and abetted him in his lies, for the last two presidential terms. I am still amazed that people didn’t see through Obama from before he was elected the first time, when he blatantly lied to disassociate himself from the “Reverend” Wright, whom he had known for 20 years. (The thing that makes that lie stand out is that he didn’t HAVE to lie; he obviously only did so because that association really showed him for what he has always been, a radical, anti-American activist, and in fact a black racist, out for revenge against “white” America–in short, a man totally lacking in character, a very real “Manchurian candidate”, as he has proved to anyone with eyes to see–and so many STILL don’t–over and over again.) I am now amazed that so many find it so easy to recognize that Hillary Clinton is a pathological liar, but still can’t bring themselves to say exactly the same thing about Obama, whose lies are legion and much more blatant than hers, almost on a daily basis. He is, by his lies to the American people, guilty of treason many times over.

        As I have written, many times, I voted Democrat for President through 8 straight elections, from 1976 through 2004. I was going to vote for Hillary in 2008, in fact. But I am and have always been an independent, not a joiner, and I require both character and truth from any candidate for President. Trump is clearly, obviously the one with the truth now (not the Democrats OR the Republicans who disavow Trump). There has not been any truth, only criminal conspiracy from the highest level and throughout its ranks, in the Democratic Party since the advent of Obama — that is how bad he is, and Clinton doesn’t compare (until she becomes President herself, and is then in a position to do just as badly as Obama).

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        Ted O'Brien.

        Yes, but. I still gave Tony K a green tick. Hopefully this won’t last long, and yes, there is a need for fixing “the media”.

        If the “debate” needs to wander I would rather see it lean more heavily on the hole in the ozone layer issue. I see two scams with a lot in common.

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      Yonniestone

      Tony K, a conspiracy theory, where’s the conspiracy?

      I believe the regular visitors to this blog don’t exhibit enough naivety to class them as “right wing nut jobs” but we do try. :)

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      PeterS

      Tony with an attitude like that it’s no wonder the US has ended up with the current two candidates for Presidency. Perhaps if the people over there took thing seriously to begin with they would have two completely different and much more suitable candidates.

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      Sean McHugh

      Hi Tony,

      I haven’t awarded you a ‘dislike’ – better just to talk. Climate Change is just one link in a chain of dots with the Left. The only thing linking their otherwise inconsistency is that they all trash the west. Just as certain as I am of that, is that they are winning.

      Ask yourself why feminists are silent on Islam, as are same-sex-marriage lobbyists. We, in Australia, can also ask ourselves why the same PC mindset, who brandish domestic violence in their attacks on males and who try to morph boys into girls (I’m serious), turn a blind eye the certain unmentionable communities where drunkenness, rape and domestic violence are rampant.

      Ask yourself why the media is so hard Left in your country, our country and the UK, as are the universities and even the public schools. That is no accident. It was planned at least as far back as the 60s.

      Please read this brief article: “Marxist Feminism’s Ruined Lives“. It’s by Mallory Millett who sat in on her sister’s group where they actually planned how they were going undermine the west by undermining the family unit and how they would make women unmarriable alley-cats and how they would infiltrate government establishments, universities and even libraries. And hasn’t that come to pass? Her sister, Kate, appeared on the front cover of Time Magazine and was called the Karl Marx of feminism.

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      Mari C

      I have always voted for who I believed to be the best candidate, no matter the position, from local up through state and to federal. No party affiliate, independent and cussedly so, and the last few elections (3 presidential and assorted state and local in-between) I have found myself not so much having to choose the -better- of two (or more) but the least offensive, or just not THAT one. It’s becoming quite a depressing thing, this voting, but I persevere.

      We haven’t the best system; we could, but too few participate. If we had better turn-out, if the voters were more concerned with real action and not promises, with real people and not media-created good and bad guys, we’d do much better. But the US is becoming, if it isn’t already, a nation of lazy self-indulgent self-obsessed ignorant children. We don’t care who is running things, as long as they don’t change things too much. Little nibbles here and there on our freedoms – it’s ok, it’s in the name of safety, security, sameness. Little nibbles here and there on our speech? It’s ok, it’s anti-bias, anti-racism in action. I won’t start on taxes. We believe what we want, and only listen to things that confirm our belief. Even when shown that those things were lies, even huge and transparent lies, we stand firm.

      Not everyone is like this, in America. But enough are. Enough to bring us to a point where even the lesser of 2 evils is pretty bad, and only slightly appealing to me as he scares every politico and 1%er out there. That alone is worth something. I wish it were a better candidate, but if wishes were fishes…

      Those Americans who don’t pay attention, who don’t vote, have essentially robbed the rest of us. We might have had an interesting, fairly honest race (in politics, no matter how you try, it seems someone is bound and determined to sink to a low and despicable level – but it can be kept to a minimum.) We might have had interesting candidates to follow. We might have had a real choice.

      But between the fools who won’t vote, and the candidates who perceive winning as the be-all end-all and do anything, absolutely anything, to win, we have been well and truly torsionally inserted into a square opening.

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    Richard Ilfeld

    These revelations should not be a surprise.
    When a party spends time and money on something, it is important.
    For years the left has spent on Secretary of State and local races for election officials.
    They have actively resisted purging electoral rolls.
    The have actively resisted voter ID measures.
    They have actively supported easy registration without supporting documents.
    They have actively supported all means of voting where a poll watcher does not see a voter.
    There have been two state elections recently where the courts found fraud to have determined results
    (MN senate & WA Governorship). The results were permitted to stand, by a liberal judiciary.

    I surmise that among conservatives, there is sufficient guilt about their exclusionary practices of many years ago and fear of
    being called out on same to prevent to calling out of these outrages. A liberal press is proving complicit.

    Minor violence and deception about the participants has always been part of the progressive plan, as have appeals to the “street”.
    They have always been part of political “machines” and not just in the US.

    Democracy and civil rights are fragile things, aren’t they?

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      Mark D.

      Absolutely right Richard! And when MN senator Al Franken learned that he won because of voter fraud why did he not step down? Democrats are oh so upstanding aren’t they?

      Then recall that Al F. was the senator that voted to break the tie on Obummer Care.

      Fate is a bitch especially when you cheat her.

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    Richard Ilfeld

    Here’s another comment for the moderator.
    I’ll word this as gently as I can. In the US, we are separating where we live based more
    of political views than on the things that have traditionally divided us.
    The amalgam of opinions welded into a world view that a binary choice motivates leads to
    distinct impacts on daily life.
    The behavior of one side or the other is evaluated by our own values.
    Liberal and conservative jurisdictions differ on many issues of which “vote fraud” is but one.
    A conservative would hold elections sacred, and suggest upon losing that the word of the people must be respected.
    A progressive would say it is appropriate to do whatever it takes within the law to win, and that moving the agenda forward by
    any means necessary is important as that is what is best for society.

    Crossing the line has a moral context that differs from viewer to viewer. In NASCAR (stock car racing) there is an old saying: “If you ain’t cheating, you ain’t trying”.
    and if you get caught you give your best old boy grin, take the penalty and move on.

    But there is “cheating”, and then there is cheating. You can do stuff that costs you a few points, and you can do stuff that gets you suspended for a long time.

    Many Americans would say that a precinct captain pulling a recalcitrent voter to the polls, reminding them that the party had provided a Christmas turkey, is OK;
    pulling a vagrant off the street and getting a vote for a bottle of wine is harder but “politics is a tough sport”.
    Others go well over the line, and may have forgotten there is one.

    This is just political, but politicians make a lot of decisions that impact our lives.

    Is your city Uber free in favor of the taxi folks?
    Can you cut a tree in your yard without getting a permit?
    Do you pay a lot for electricity due to green policies?
    Are your schools good, safe, and educationally sound?
    Are you OK with what motivates your zoning board?

    SO this vote fraud thing is a part of a constellation of values; I think there will be good correlation between geographics of fraud and
    geographics of other values.

    And Americans will continue to segregate themselves on these issues.

    We are becoming well and truly divided — probably not healthy for our future.

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    Reasonable Skeptic

    It is incredibly discouraging that we (the West) fallen so far. This really does rest in the basic fact that only one political side truly holds sway in the media. All the conservatives are in business leaving the media and the intellectuals in places where they do not interact with right wingers.

    The left has forgotten about the fundamental importance of freedom of speech and this is because they haven’t meet a right wing thinker in years.

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    Reed Coray

    I’m old enough to remember that when Richard Nixon ran for President the actions (dirty tricks) of a few of his supporters had the left wing press in an uproar. The press made a big deal of one such trick: A “dirty tricker” ordered a bunch of pizzas to be delivered to some democrat event and then left the democrats holding the bag. The press thought that was a capital offense. My how times have changed.

    From what you’ve written in the past, Jo, I formed the opinion that as far as global warming goes, you believe the press is a major part of the problem. Relative to global warming, I agree. On the other hand, relative to politics the left wing press is THE major problem. A pox on all of them.

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    Curious George

    I just completed the ballots (I am voting by mail). In most cases I did not want to vote for anybody, and that’s fortunately completely legal. I made an exception for the President, where I vote for that Libertarian idiot. Do you know his name? No? That’s what makes him an idiot; he missed a rare chance to get a great coverage, as both big parties nominated extremely unpopular candidates.

    I am voting against Proposition 64, California marijuana legalization act. It is 31 pages of a dense legalese. Our “lawmakers” are trying to shift responsibility for the law to general public.

    On a happier note, a tribal elder Zachary RunningWolf is running for a mayor of Berkeley. His office is located in Santa Rita jail, he got arrested recently. (I am voting for him as my third choice.) Also running is Guy “Mike” Lee, with a residence address 200 1/2 Allston Way, Berkeley – that seems to be a lawn across the street from Berkeley High.

    And of 6 candidates for Berkeley Rent Stabilization Board, four recite the mantra Housing Is A Human Right. They don’t say say that they would personally pay for it.

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    Roy Hogue

    Jo,

    You picked up a big stick and poked the hornet’s nest real hard from up close, even though you’re thousands of miles away.

    I’ve sent you email with some of my thinking in it and if you see anything you think will benefit this discussion feel free to post it and attribute it to me. But otherwise I’m not going to comment on this thread. The whole subject of the presidential election is already more than volatile enough. It doesn’t need my opinions, especially since I’ve posted them before now, sometimes more than once.

    We all need to remember that politics is always only about one thing, power. Who will have power and who will not have it is the only real question. And no one likes to be without the power to get things done his own way.

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      Rod Stuart

      YOU make a good point Roy.
      The election November 8 is America’s business. It’s not ours.
      However I am amazed at the extent to which Australians in general and this blog in particular is interested in it.
      Please understand that while the regime which you select to govern your country is your business. However, it is bound t o have a huge impact on the rest of us.
      God save America, if He can.

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        Annie

        It is America’s business. However, unfortunately it affects the rest of us; would that it didn’t. I am still dumbfounded that a country of about 350 million people with many highly intelligent (I supposed) and cultured citizens could wind up with two such repellent leading candidates for POTUS.

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          Rereke Whakaaro

          Would you want the job, Annie? Neither would I, nor several million other people. Talk about a poisoned chalice.

          As an American friend of mine said, “It is a job sought by people with large ego’s, and small ability”.

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      Roy Hogue

      Rod, Annie,

      Lest I be misunderstood, my comments to Jo were not to chew her out for meddling in America’s business. I’m only too well aware of how politics here can affect the rest of the world. And it’s perfectly OK with me for her or anyone else to do the kind of objective commentary that is Jo’s hallmark. The hornet’s nest needs poking and that’s not happening here so good on Jo for poking it from Australia. She has a large American readership, so large that she sticks as much as possible to U.S. English spelling and grammar (and we’re not her only audience for U.S. English). If you want the evidence of that, just click the yellow button with the number in it located in the right sidebar. That brings up who’samung.us with a map of connected readers. Even now, about 6:55 AM pacific time (9:55 Eastern time) as I’m typing this the U.S. is blanketed with little symbols representing someone connected to Jo Nova. The only other part of the world with so much interest is Europe. For a little fun, see if you can locate the symbol that represents your computer, smart phone or whatever it is.

      I do draw a line when someone tries to tell us how to vote or who we should elect. But even there, whether it bothers me or not depends on how it’s done. Jo and most of her readers have never crossed that line.

      This thread belongs to the world to post comments and doesn’t need me. So I chose to stay out of the fray. I only said this much because it looks like I was misunderstood.

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    Power Grab

    After reading this article:

    http://www.nytimes.com/2016/10/16/magazine/generation-adderall-addiction.html

    it occurred to me that the people who act like mad dogs with respect to their favorite cause (e.g., CAGW, getting Clinton elected, etc.) might be the ones who are on these meds, and probably have been for most of their lives.

    My reason for raising this issue is to ask this question: What proportion of the population (especially the voting population) is taking these dreadful drugs?

    They seem to be unable to see the forest for the trees. Their peripheral vision appears to be severely impaired, so to speak. They think everyone should do everything ONE WAY, their way.

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    Mark Fraser

    The drugs are dreadful if: a), ADD/ADHD not present, b), dosage perhaps 10-100 times higher than required therapeutically. Otherwise, for REAL ADD sufferers, 10-20mg per day of Ritalin ™, undetectable by the user, will move frontal lobe activity into the thick part of the bell curve, which is the desirable result. Crush and sniff, at the root of an alarming number of “studies” and alarming stories, is for the high, not focus. In my opinion.

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      Power Grab

      Regarding dosage, you bring up an interesting point. This past weekend, a friend was fretting about her grandson’s inability to get a refill prescription from a doctor. They tested him for the drugs (which he told them he was already taking), but found no evidence of usage. They are saying they believe he selling them on the street, so they won’t give him a prescription.

      Does that happen? Can a person be taking these drugs regularly and not have anything come up in a drug test?

      (Sorry to derail the OT…)

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    David Maddison

    Don’t forget the “motor voters”.

    Obama enabled illegal aliens (i.e. criminals), the PC term being “undocumented migrants” to get driver’s licenses.

    In many states the posession of a driver’s license allows people to enrol to vote. In some cases the enrollment is automatic.

    These people won’t be voting for Trump but the party that supports and promotes criminal behaviour, the Democrats.

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      Wendy

      This is indeed true. When we went to get my Aussie husband his American driver’s license, the clerk asked if he wanted to register to vote……..even after showing her his GREEN CARD (clear indication that he was NOT a US citizen). Now given that there are states that now give ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS drivers licenses, we KNOW that many will have enrolled to vote.

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    David Maddison

    If Trump doesn’t win and the immigration floodgates are opened up as planned to bring in a certain class of people that doesn’t support Western values whom we are not allowed to name here, I’m afraid civil war may erupt.

    Fortunately, they have the 2nd Amendment as the “reset button” for their Constitution.

    (Yes, I know many people will disagree with me but that’s why it’s there, to make sure the people are more powerful than a tyrannical government.)

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      Yonniestone

      A certain class of people had to be driven out of many countries over the centuries due to their complete lack of respect for those countries laws and values.

      In those situations 2nd Amendment laws were either in place or improvised very quickly, necessity being the mother of invention our evolution depends largely on learned behaviour.

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      Mari C

      The Dems don’t want a flood of immigrants either – except nannies and housekeepers, maybe gardeners and landscapers. They feel we have enough to fill the unwanted positions – and perhaps too many, as there are plenty of folks not working at all. Of course, agriculture workers, the pickers and harvesters, are not paid well. And barely paid for a month or so here and there is no pay at all, when you think about it.

      No, the Dems won’t open the floodgates. They might allow most of those here to stay, but even that is pushing it. When it comes to the top power mongers, the only people they want here are rich, pale men and their quiet wives – no matter the party. Obama was to prove that a lie – the Dems are “above” such nonsense – but it holds as true for them as the Repubs.

      Immigration is a scapegoat, a twisted fear to keep the poor and racist focusing on the “others” and not on the race or the runners. Some more smoke, another mirror.

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    Ruairi

    The Democrats failing to beat,
    The Donald and facing defeat,
    Would use foul means to win,
    And get Hillary in,
    To remain as the ruling elite.

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    Jo

    O/T FYI

    “Alarmist scientists are trying to cover up the good news that rising CO2 levels are making the planet turn greener. And that even includes one of the scientists who made the discovery in the first place.”

    http://www.breitbart.com/london/2016/10/19/ala/

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    Another Ian

    More on voting

    “The U.S. Department of Defense is sponsoring articles urging Americans abroad to vote in the presidential election, on a website simultaneously running articles by a Democrat Party activist instructing the same ex-pats to “vote for Hillary Clinton in November” to help “stop Trump”. :”

    http://www.breitbart.com/2016-presidential-race/2016/10/19/u-s-defense-department-joins-soros-overseas-voters-appeal-to-stop-trump/

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    Another Ian

    The wonders of voting Democrat!

    “Can Hillary Clinton Bring Us Better Weather?”

    “Not long ago, had someone run for President of the United States on a platform of creating better weather, both the media and the voters rightly would have rejected that candidate for the right reasons. Unfortunately, common sense now is turned upside down and the candidate who fails to promise better weather now is under fire for being “anti-science.” ”

    https://wattsupwiththat.com/2016/10/19/can-hillary-clinton-bring-us-better-weather/

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    David Maddison

    CNN (Clinton News Network) cuts satellite feed as soon as Wikileaks mentioned.

    http://www.infowars.com/video-satellite-feed-cut-as-soon-as-congressman-mentions-wikileaks-on-cnn/

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    Robdel

    For some reason I cannot get video sound on my ipad. Does anyone else have the same problem?

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    The Clintons represent a powerful elite of capitalist hegemony in the United States. Hillary Clinton is seen as ‘honest and trustworthy’ by just 38 per cent of Americans. The Democrats are actively corrupting the voting procedure in the States. Trump must win this election if any semblance of democracy is to continue in America.

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    David Maddison

    Our whole system of Western Civilisation is based on trust and respect for the law. People agree to follow laws and civilisation is maintained. For example, yesterday I went to vote in my local council election and I didn’t have to prove who I was, just gave my name, address and date of birth. That sort of thing works when people understand and respect “the system”.

    The system can tolerate a few law breakers and deal with them via police and courts but when large numbers of people don’t respect or obey laws police and courts can’t deal with it and society collapses and it can happen easily and suddenly.

    Today our values of Civilisation are not taught in schools or understood by anyone below about 50 plus we have certain immigrants which are openly hostile to our Civilisational values and our whole Western Civilisation is at very grave risk of collapse.

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    Lord Jim

    I will never use google again.
    I will never buy another MSM paper.
    I will never watch MSM news.
    I will never subscribe to a cable channel.

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    Eliza

    I do not believe for a minute that the Clintons actually believe in AGW. Bill is no fool. She may play the rhetoric but most likely will do nothing which is good. AGW is a very low priority Thanks be to god hahahaha

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      Mari C

      I think that too. Hillary is using the green stance to keep the Bernie flock, no more, no less. As to what she’ll do if elected, who knows? She may stay the course set for her because it is one less thing to deal with, or she may suddenly find that it is a burden too large to carry and find a way to undo all the “progress” the greens have made. She is more inclined than Trump to pacify and mollify the greens, especially those in her party, but she’s not a frothing believer.

      Trump isn’t a 100% bet for dismantling the green machine, but he’s more certain a bet. He’s made a living out of getting his name on things in large letters without taking a personal hit when it crumples, so unless he gets 5 star billing and his name on top, I’d lay odds he won’t honor anything that prior administrations have mandated, agreed to, signed. Unless it is a full-on binding agreement that needs congress to undo, he’ll remake it in his name or just erase it.

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    I’m so glad you covered these videos Jo.

    Anyone with any doubt remaining after these Project Veritas, and the latest WikiLeaks and FBI Emails dumps, should be pretty schooled in how an entire left-wing media constellation and the entire deep-state of bureaucracy in the United States, is basically now running a Coronation, and not a democratic election. As much as I don’t like Bernie Sanders, WikiLeaks have clearly shown that the DNC rigged the primaries completely to eliminate the actually left-wing populist candidate.

    The most amazing thing about all of this, is that Clinton is not even personally conventionally left-wing – like Sanders – because she is clearly a Fascist (as per the WikiLeaks Wall Street speech transcripts that were leaked) … and, of course, the ‘climate change’ chorus is a matter of Fascism, with Carbon Credits & Derivatives to become the mainstay of a zombie Wall Street and City of London TBTF financial complex looking for 100 times more power over the people of the entire globe.

    THIS IS HOW LEFTISTS PLAY THE GAME … DIRTY !!!
    They don’t know any other way … like Pigs in the mud.

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    Ross

    The boys at Anonymous have been busy running their own poll. The copied the methodology used by a student group a few weeks ago. They rang 1000 people in 50 states ( so sample of 50,000). They made sure there was 33% Republican affiliated , 33% Democrat and 34% Independent in the sample.

    The results are similar to the student group results.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zaOoFH8HHrk

    Even if the margin in Nov. is half this there are going to be a lot of polling companies, political elite and MSM people wiping a lot of egg off their face.

    I’m not sure what to make of it. But like a few others above I think even if Trump loses he will have made a huge difference by rallying huge numbers who have traditionally not taken much interest in politics ( no matter what side they end up voting for) and he has shown the “traditional” approach to campaigns can be beaten.
    If the idiots in DC continue the appalling relations with Russia I would suggest Trump gets on a plane after the elections ( assuming he doesn’t win) and visit Putin for a discussion , just to thumb the nose of the DC crowd.

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      PeterPetrum

      Ross, if the poll was carried on 1000×50 people of equal distribution between Democrats, Republicans and others and the result was 69% for Trump then I would be inclined to believe it. Have long felt, before this information that you have provided, that the polls cannot show the hidden support for Trump. I did not know if people were afraid to admit they would vote for Trump (we know your phone number and we know where you live) or whether the polls were falsified. Looks like it could be both. Oh! The scrambling for cover if the results are as shown in this poll.

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    David Maddison

    How Google manipulates search answers in favour of Clinton.

    https://youtu.be/PFxFRqNmXKg

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    Wendy

    The last debate is tonight (here in the US) and will most likely be the most watched debate in history. We will see if the moderator will remain unbiased and not favor Hillary. We will also see how Trump approaches the recent Wikileaks email dumps and how Hillary will counter them. My feeling is that Hillary is going to lose and lose badly.

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      nc

      Ya but for some reason Trump has avoided going all in with the debates.

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      David Maddison

      How to watch the debate in Australia (from Lifehacker).

      The debate kicks off Thursday, October 20 at 12PM AEDT (that’s 11AM in Queensland, 11.30am in South Australia and 9AM in WA.) Fox News anchor Chris Wallace will be moderating the debate which will follow the same format as the first one.

      The debate will cover six major topics which have been selected by the moderator. Each candidate will be given two minutes to respond to a question and further time to respond to each other to generate deeper discussion.

      As you’d expect from such a historically important topic, the debate is being covered live by a multitude of news outlets, both in the US and Australia. Here are some of the easiest ways to watch:

      Trump vs Clinton on free-to-air TV: You can watch the US presidential debate on Channel 7, Channel Nine, SBS or ABC. All free-to-air broadcasts will be live and commercial-free. Coverage of the debate starts at 12PM AEDT.
      Trump vs Clinton on Pay TV: You can watch the US presidential debate on Sky News Live and the Sky News Election Channel via a Foxtel subscription. Sky News Live’s coverage will start with local pre-debate analysis at 11:30AM fronted by David Speers, Peter van Onselen and Kristina Keneally.
      Trump vs Clinton on YouTube: Watch the US presidential debate on YouTube with coverage by NBC.
      Trump vs Clinton on Twitter: Watch the US presidential debate on Twitter with coverage by Bloomberg.
      Trump vs Clinton on Facebook: Watch on Facebook with coverage by ABC.

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    Amber

    No wonder Obama just came out with his freedom of speech killing idea , the need for
    a Curating Function to discard unapproved information . WTF .
    This election is about freedom of speech and the socialist agenda to sell out of the USA .
    Trump may be only the second worst candidate but he will not sell out the USA .
    These attempts to bully , intimidate and use paid shit disturbers is not going to fly .
    The admission the operatives phoned up the unions to do the dirty work explains a lot .

    People want their America back and they are going to run these corrupt losers off .

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      Mari C

      The usual crew of the young and the only-I-get-free-speech will support this, all in the name of banishing the bullies and making the internet a safer place to be. Little do they know. Once in place the restrictions and deletions will increase until nothing, really, can be said.

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    pat

    the polls are still being distorted (intentionally?) by illegitimate sampling, but this is amusing nonetheless:

    19 Oct: UK Independent: James Moore: The betting pattern that signals a Trump presidency isn’t as remote as the world thinks
    William Hill slashes odds on Trump victory amid betting patterns eerily reminiscent of those seen in the lead up to the EU referendum
    It is news that will strike fear into the hearts of perhaps half of America and large chunks of the world outside of it.
    Despite a calamitous week of campaigning, betting markets on the US election are almost a mirror image of those on Britain’s EU referendum at this stage. And they could be pointing to a victory for Donald Trump…
    http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-elections/punters-rush-to-back-trump-despite-disastrous-week-of-campaigning-a7368196.html

    ***below, a poll that has been accurate in the past, now gives prominence to a tweet “tweaking” for Clinton, by a former Obama Treasury guy, Tedeschi! lol.

    19 Oct: LA Times: Campaign 2016 updates: Trump and Clinton go head-to-head in the final debate
    •But even Trump’s supporters are losing faith in his chances…
    •Several janitors gave up their weekends to campaign for Clinton in Las Vegas
    •Obama to Trump: “Stop whining” and try to win votes instead
    FOLLOWED BY NEXT STORY
    ***19 Oct: Here’s how one expert tweaked the USC/L.A. Times poll so it matches the averages by David Lauter
    TWEET: Ernie Tedeschi: Census-reweighted LAT/USC, Oct 19: ***Clinton +5.

    Donald Trump’s consistent lead in the USC/L.A. Times “Daybreak” poll of the election — and the gap between the poll and all other major surveys — has drawn a lot of attention.
    Most of the comments have come from partisans, either Trump supporters praising the poll for telling them what they’d like to believe or Clinton supporters attacking it for the opposite reason.
    Ernie Tedeschi, an economist and former Treasury Department official who is adept at data analysis, looked at the issue differently. He wondered what was driving the difference between the Daybreak poll and other surveys.
    He found that if he took the poll’s data and weighted it differently, what had been a tie between Trump and Clinton suddenly became a Clinton lead. Indeed, his version has the poll showing her in the lead almost the entire summer and fall.
    Moreover, the reweighted version almost precisely matches the path of the Real Clear Politics average of all polls…
    http://www.latimes.com/nation/politics/trailguide/

    LA Times bullet points – Obama to Trump: “Stop whining” and try to win votes instead – which was carried by MSM worldwide:

    HuffPo: Jonathan Cohn: President Obama Tells Donald Trump To ‘Stop Whining’ About Mythical Voter Fraud
    It happened in the Rose Garden, during a joint press appearance with Italian Prime Minister Matteo Renzi. A reporter asked Obama a question about Trump’s repeated predictions that Hillary Clinton’s supporters would try to steal the election by casting fake ballots, registering non-citizens, and other sorts of illegal activity in cities with large minority populations that tend to vote Democratic…
    A wide swath of political leaders, including some prominent Republicans, have condemned his arguments because they lack basis in fact and because they undermine faith in American democracy…
    Obama made these points too, calling Trump’s voter fraud arguments “unprecedented” for a major party candidate in modern history…

    BY THE TIME MOST MSM PUBLISHED, MILLIONS ONLINE WERE WATCHING JAMES O’KEEFE’S SECOND VIDEO, WITH DEM OPERATIVES ADMITTING & DETAILING VOTE RIGGING FOR 50 YEARS!

    funniest.election.ever.

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      Mari C

      O’Keefe has baggage, though. There are a lot of people who don’t trust him, and maybe with good reason. He was behind the ACORN “sting” which backfired on him, and it’s even odds as to whether he is trying the same tactic now, or has real unedited proof. It’s the unedited film that the media want to see – last time, he embarrassed a lot of the MSM and they do not want to go through that again.

      It is -very- telling that two heads have rolled, however. Could just be “you were dumb enough to fall for THAT?” or could be evidence of truth in what O’Keefe is saying. It’s a real shame that even if he’s pulling a fast one, so many think so little of the politics and politicians they are more than willing to believe it.

      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Association_of_Community_Organizations_for_Reform_Now

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    TdeF

    The Russians are accused of hacking everyone’s email accounts, trying to influence the US elections. That is made up stuff. However the military exercises, navy and air force and threats by Putin are really serious. They know any scare will push a demand for a strong Republican government which acts to protect US interests. The relations in Syria let alone the disasters from Libya, Egypt, Iraq, Afghanistan and even Turkey and rock bottom relations with Israel and Russia must be a worry. After eight years of Clinton and Obama, the Mediterranean is a mess and Europe is under siege like Russia.

    So it may be an attempt by Putin to force a Republican government and get a President who is prepared to deal fairly with Russia, not blame Russia for their own mistakes specifically in backing the war against Assad, walking out of Iraq and arming ISIL as freedom fighters, as they armed and trained the Mujahadeen including Osama Bin Laden. Who gives stinger missiles to tribesmen in the name of democracy? How is Libya travelling after removing Gaddaffi? Egypt is no longer a democracy, thanks to Obama’s ‘Arab Spring’. As for the eternally corrupt Ukraine, that is an ongoing disaster which the world ignores.

    The world outside the US has had enough of the Clintons and Obama and history will show how much damage they have done internationally. We need another Reagan, a strongly principled Hollywood actor who did much more to resolve international crises than the weak, ignorant Democrats. Whether Reagan is that man remains to be seen, but the Russians have reason to think so. They fear another Clinton/Obama/Clinton administration as politicians try to distract people from disasters at home by creating them overseas with total amateurs Hilary Clinton and now John Kerry. For the Russians, all these problem countries are neighbours.

    Then there are so many unresolved scandals floating around the Clintons throughout their careers from Whitewater onwards, I have lost count. There are more every day. You know there is nothing left to say when the Clintons try to bring Trump down with organizing riots at his speeches and suggestions of inappropriate sexual behavior. To a world inured to Clinton scandals, that is beyond belief. Just one word. Lewinski. Just type it into Google, but you do not need to do so.

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    Egor TheOne

    He said, she said, he said….who cares!

    What is important is what will each do?

    With the Hitlery we already know…more of the same and worse.

    With the Donald, he is the only hope for the USA, if he only does some of what he says.

    Just the fact the he is an anti global warmer would be enough for me to approve of his presidency even if that was his only plus.

    How can anybody of sound mind vote for a global warmer…the multi billion dollar per day global racket, of which Hitlery’s buddies Goldman And Sachs and friends(criminals) are big advocates.

    So the Donald is not a saint and has a few rough edges….well pull out the Kleenex!

    He’s exactly what the doctor ordered,what is needed, a warrior that will go in and clean out the marxist and criminal infestation… a non politician, instead of paid off lackeys and politically correct(totalitarian) wankers.

    The risk with the Donald is whether he will actually do what he says.

    Where as the Hitlery will just be more of the same corruption, scams, incompetence,CAGW flog, press control and so on, worse even than El Presidente O’Bummer with his over 1000 executive orders and feral support of CAGW true b’lverism.

    Wasn’t Hubby Bill, ‘Slick Willy’ responsible for the Bank deregulation(glass steagall act) that basically allowed the banks to gamble…that is they get to keep their winnings but if they lost, then the lowly taxpayer is and was forced to bail them out which is what happened with the 2008 GFC.

    I wonder if Hitlery helped hubby ‘Slick Willy’ on that one… key players/offenders in the global meltdown.

    What about “we came, we saw, He died…hehehehe” a Hitlery quote!…real presidential material!

    Vote 1 the Donald for Pres…. Hitlery for Jail.

    Whereas a vote for a Hitlery Presidency(dictatorship),will only equal pain.

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    pat

    i have a comment in moderation.

    “made headlines”? not so much in the MSM, Neetzmann:

    19 Oct: The Hill Blog: Neetzmann Zimmerman: James O’Keefe to attend debate as Trump’s guest
    O’Keefe ***made headlines this week after he posted several undercover videos that he ***alleges show Democratic operatives talking about ***stirring up mischief against the Republican presidential nominee’s campaign…
    Videos from O’Keefe’s Project Veritas showed two Democrats speaking about ways to spur violent confrontations at the Republican presidential nominee’s campaign events.
    At least two individuals who appeared in the videos have since been terminated…
    In addition to O’Keefe, Trump has also invited President Obama’s half brother Malik to attend the debate.
    Pat Smith, the mother of Benghazi attack victim Sean Smith, will also be in attendance as a guest of the Trump campaign.
    http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/301883-james-okeefe-to-attend-debate-as-trumps-guest

    19 Oct: CNN: Dem operative ‘stepping back’ after video suggests group incited violence at Trump rallies
    By Daniella Diaz and Drew Griffi
    QUOTES FROM ROBERT CREAMER, DEMOCRACY PARTNERS…THEN
    The DNC quickly distanced itself from the accusations. Donna Brazile, the interim DNC chair, said O’Keefe “is a convicted criminal with a history of doctoring video to advance his ideological agenda” and that the practices have nothing to do with long-term efforts by the group.
    “The practices described in the video by this temporary regional sub-contractor do not in any way comport with our long standing policies on organizing events, and those statements and sentiments do not represent the values that the Committee holds dear,” Brazile said in a statement. “We do not believe, or have any evidence to suggest, that the activities articulated in the video actually occurred.”…
    The Clinton campaign, meanwhile, denied that it has helped plant rogue protesters or deliberately incited violence at Trump campaign events. BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH
    NOT A SINGLE QUOTE FROM O’KEEFE, REPUBLICANS, OR DONALD TRUMP – WHO CNN HAD THAT VERY DAY BEEN MOCKING RELENTLESSLY FOR SUGGESTING THERE’S SUCH A THING IN AMERICA AS VOTER FRAUD!
    http://edition.cnn.com/2016/10/18/politics/project-veritas-action-robert-creamer-donald-trump-rallies/

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    Cynic of Ayr

    Those two haven’t last anything!
    They have merely been re-assigned.
    Anyone who believes that these two, and any following, have been separated from the Clinton machine are sadly mistaken.
    Even in Australia, the Labor Party rewards criminal activity with Senate Positions.
    Kimberley Kitching.

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      ianl8888

      Even in Australia, the Labor Party rewards criminal activity with Senate Positions.
      Kimberley Kitching

      Yes, but notice, please, that you play the victim here as well – naming yourself as “cynic” whereas the actual cynics are those who perpetrated the “Kitching to the Senate” situation.

      Cynics also are the MSM sub-editors who whitewash this stuff. They KNOW the mass of the populace remains unaware and uncaring, so half-lies, omissions and denial of fact work well as the MSM modus operandi.

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    19 Oct: SMH: Tom McIlroy: More than 18,000 people asked to explain why they voted twice at election
    Despite heavy fines and the risk of jail time for multiple voting, two people were marked off the electoral roll 11 times on July 2…
    A further two people had their names marked off five times, while four others had four marks and 51 people had three marks.
    Australian Electoral Commissioner Tom Rogers told a Senate estimates hearing on Tuesday night 18,343 people have been asked to explain why their name was checked off more than once, with many expected to be in error…
    NSW, the most populous state, recorded 6760 instances of apparent multiple voting, compared with 4800 in Victoria and 2792 in Queensland.
    The Northern Territory recorded the fewest instances with 178…
    Despite nearly 8000 cases of suspected voting fraud at the 2013 federal election, not a single person was prosecuted for multiple voting – including those who admitted to casting more than one ballot.
    Of the 7743 suspect cases referred to the Australian Federal Police that year, just 65 were investigated and none progressed to a conviction.
    The Commonwealth Electoral Act allows for fines of $10,800 or up to a year in jail for people convicted of multiple votes. Anyone found to have impersonated someone else at the ballot box faces up to six months in jail or a fine of $1800…
    http://www.smh.com.au/federal-politics/political-news/more-than-18000-people-asked-to-explain-why-they-voted-twice-at-election-20161018-gs5cal.html

    19 Oct: Daily Caller: Michael Bastasch: EPA Chief: ‘I’m Not Talking To Climate Deniers’
    Environmental Protection Agency Administrator Gina McCarthy said she’s done talking to “climate deniers” who don’t think human activities are causing global warming.
    “If they haven’t figured out by now, what in God’s name could anyone say to them?” McCarthy said in a Facebook Live interview with Mashable Tuesday.
    “I don’t check out flat Earth society and I’m not talking to climate deniers,” she said. “That’s it. Sorry, I know I’m supposed to be for everybody, but my patience has worn thin over eight years.”…
    McCarthy told Mashable that while coal states are “in trouble” the industry “has been going downhill since the 1980s.”
    “This is not something that happened over the past administration,” she said in the interview…
    That’s not exactly true, however, since U.S. coal production actually peaked in 2008 when it hit about 300 short tons. What McCarthy is likely referring to is the fact coal jobs have been on steady decline since the 1980s due to increased automation and efficiency…
    This isn’t the first time McCarthy has singled out “climate deniers.” She said “normal people” not global warming skeptics would win the climate debate in a June 2015 speech at a White House summit.
    “I am doing that not to push back on climate deniers,” she said. “You can have fun doing that if you want, but I’ve batted my head against the wall too many times and if the science already hasn’t changed their mind it never will.”
    http://dailycaller.com/2016/10/19/epa-chief-im-not-talking-to-climate-deniers/

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      TdeF

      “and if the science already hasn’t changed their mind it never will”

      You can tell a man made Global Warming believer by these two words. It is short from The Science .. of global warming .. climate change. As in The Bible or The Dictionary. This is not the language of a scientist. Science is not a bible. There is no law of Climate Change. There is nothing but the loosest postulated and disproven association between CO2 and an alleged short warming period in the 1980s which was more than likely just instrumental change. As for warming from 1900, who really believes the world temperature for a world which is 75% water and largely unmeasured? So not only is there no supporting science at all, there is quite possibly no Global Warming. Since we have had satellite measurements over the entire planet, this is unequivocal. The temperature has not changed for 20 years.

      (Not 66% oceans because I discount Antarctica as no one had been there much in 1900 and it is the size of South America. Besides, it is under 4km of frozen water)

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        Peter C

        Yes, I am still trying to work out what they mean by the science! I think it has something to do with fingerprints of human activity and weights of evidence.

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    TdeF

    Someone has gone through an red thumbed every comment. Utterly mindless. All the scruples of a dog on a croquet lawn.

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    pat

    19 Oct: Arizona Republic: Dan Nowicki: Poll: Clinton up 5 points over Trump in Arizona

    Oct 2016: Arizona Republic/Morrison/Cronkite News Poll
    Methodology Report
    Table A5: Unweighted answers to ‘PARTY ‘ by ‘All respondents’
    Republican 23.6%, Democrat 57%, Independent 19.4%
    https://assets.documentcloud.org/documents/3145228/Arizona-Republic-Morrison-Cronkite-News-October.pdf

    Arizona State University
    “The Walter Cronkite School of Journalism and Mass Communication is one of the nation’s top journalism schools and is home to Arizona PBS (Public Broadcasting Service), the largest media outlet operated by a journalism school in the world.

    comment at freerepublic: Checking Arizona voter registration statistics link I note that there are 16% more registered Republicans than registered Democrats….they must be factoring in Hillary’s huge edge in enthusiasm…

    19 Oct: Post-Standard: Kevin Tampone: SUNY professor says Trump win at least 87 percent certain; other polls ‘bunk’
    Stony Brook, N.Y. — A SUNY professor continues to project Donald Trump as the likely winner of this year’s election and he’s critiquing polls that predict the opposite in a new opinion piece.
    Helmut Norpoth has been predicting a Trump victory since early this year. His model currently projects a win for the Republican with a certainty of 87 to 99 percent.
    Norpoth is a professor at Stony Brook University on Long Island…
    Norpoth wrote in The Hill that although the race looks decided, current polling methods are “bunk.”…
    Instead of opinion polling, Norpoth relies on statistics from candidates’ performances in party primaries and patterns in the electoral cycle to forecast results. The model correctly predicted the victor in every presidential election since 1996, according to the Daily Mail…
    http://www.syracuse.com/politics/index.ssf/2016/10/helmut_norpoth_donald_trump_victory.html

    19 Oct: Investor’s Business Daily: John Merline: Trump Leads Clinton By 1 Point Going Into Debate — IBD/TIPP Poll
    The IBD/TIPP tracking poll has been cited as the most accurate in predicting actual election results in the past three presidential elections.

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    Mark D.

    The debate just ended. Donald Trump won by a league.

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      PeterS

      I agree. Clinton wants a fight with Russia and make the US go faster into debt. Trump wants to have peace with them and build up the US economy. All the rest is just white noise.

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      Egor TheOne

      Great to hear ….Go ‘the Donald’, Hitlery for jail along with hubby,Slick Willy.

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      Peter C

      I watched the first hour. I thought the Donald was going well. The moderator wanted to highlight the differences in policy and there are some big differences.

      There was one question where Hiliary talked about something else entirerly. I forget what it was.

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      I can’t believe that this woman and her husband aren’t in jail already, let alone getting to debate in running for the leader of the most powerful nation on earth.

      If she actually told the truth, just once, I think I would fall over backwards onto the floor.

      At least Bill Clinton was a convincing inveterate liar (pathological) … Hillary doesn’t even have a veneer of believe ability anymore.

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    Chris

    For all the experts.

    Here is a report from “on the ground”. I have just returned home from 5 months working in the USA. Travelled from , Massachusetts, in the north to Miami, Florida in the south. Driving through the states of Massachusetts, Rhode Island, Connecticut, New York (upstate), New Jersey, Pennsylvania, Delaware, Maryland, Virginia, and all the way to Florida and back to Philadelphia to fly home. A couple of times I flew short hops to meetings, and one of those times was into Melbourne, FL., where there was a Trump rally going on, we taxied right past the hanger where it was going on.

    So, here is my prediction of the out come of the elections.

    Trump will win, and probably by a landslide.

    Why, these are my observations.

    The Trump yard signs out number the Hillary signs at least 6 to 1. Some days I counted to break the boredom of driving. Some towns you see very few signs at all.

    Small businesses that I saw and visited had Trump signs displayed. No Hillary.

    Very few bumper stickers. Maybe because cars with Trump stickers get spray painted, as in Bangor, Maine, the other day.

    The size and enthusiasm of the crowds at the Trump rallies has to be seen to be believed. They do show them on One America News, and I did see the one at Melbourne.

    Most of the time I tried to avoid the cable TV news. It is sickening. Bash Trump 12 hours a day and more. This leave me to believe that the Democrats are desperate. There is an air that they are loosing. Hey, and I don’t have a dog in this fight.

    In regard to the organised violence talked about here. Here is part of a memo mistakenly sent to one of my friends in Yardley, Bucks County, PA.

    • Yard Sign Capture: The visible show of support for Trump must be mitigated in middle class and affluent white suburbs. Black Pod will run distributed operations to collect and destroy opposition signs as well as to distribute Clinton signs to strike-list homes where we believe the occupant demographically may favor Clinton. Pro-Clinton signs will be distributed without asking for consent as we believe that potential Clinton voters may be reluctant to display a sign but will not remove one if it magically appears.

    • Bumper Sticker Targeting: Spotters for Black Pod will be organized into three teams covering Levittown, Yardley, and Warminster. They will identify vehicles, especially female-driven high-end SUVs displaying Trump advertising and will deface the vehicles to create a psychological climate unfavourable to such displays.

    Almost all Americans I spoke to are for Trump, and most know what has been going on with Hillary’s emails, FBI, and DoJ..

    There is a ground swell going on in the US and it is against the Clintons.

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      Chris, I really appreciate your on-the-spot news. That is most interesting. The passion is obvious in photos in rallies.

      I am convinced it could be a landslide, but I also will not be surprised if it’s extremely close and Hillary wins. The power of the one-eyed press is still very strong – the 12 hours a day of bashing counts. The organised grass roots efforts to get people to the door. It would be bad for trump if polls show he has a 5 point lead close to the day, complacent people might not bother getting out to vote. I don’t believe the polls, but neither can I write them off. Vigilant…

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      Ross

      Chris

      I read a post from a trucker on another blog last week saying exactly the same as you re yard signs. He had travelled in the past 10 days around the mid and north east states and the only difference was he saw NO yard signs for Clinton and no bumper stickers. He saw a couple of “bought and paid for signs” for Clinton.

      Here is a post from a commentator on Irish Savant giving social media stats

      Here is a summary:

      Fact 1:
      Facebook.
      Trump 12,174,358 likes.
      Clinton: 4,385,959 likes.

      Live stream videos recently played.
      Trump: 21 hours ago; 135,000 likes 18,167 shares, 1.5 million views
      Clinton: 25 hours ago; 9,000 likes, 0 shares, 121,000 views

      Fact 2:
      Twitter followers.
      Trump: 18 million (90% real)
      Clinton: 6 million (60 % real)

      Fact 3:
      Views per live stream.
      Trump: 160,000. 5,000 % more eyeballs.
      Hillary: 400.

      Fact 4:
      Instagram followers.
      Trump: 6.2 million
      Clinton: 0.8 million

      Fact 5:
      Reddit subscribers
      Trump: 297,696
      Clinton: 21,429
      Hillary for prison: 255,228 !!!!

      DNC emails from Wikileaks prove that Hillary has fake subscribers in all these social media platforms. If you view source on her campaign homepage, and read the HTML comments, she is hiring programmers and called the election process an “18 month HACKATHON”.

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        Ross – Great poll results … let’s call it RealPOLLitik

        Funny how the MSM all echo-chamber their own affiliated ‘polls’ (Brexit style), but will never reference the social-media ratings that the two are getting in the only real arena that now matters for the younger/next generations.

        The fourth estate is dying the death of a million cuts, and the newest cuts are all self inflicted; lately they have been self-immolating their credibility.

        It’s rather pathetic, and as a Protestant, to watch the death of journalism and the printing press which started the information technology revolution on the back of Bible prints, and watch it end in such a sewer, is depressing.

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          rapscallion

          The MSM echo chamber the establishment line, and let’s face it, most established newspapers and TV channels have been around so long they are practically part of the Establishment themselves. There are a few exceptions, but they only prove the rule. It can basically be broken down into two distinct groups; Those with vested interests in the status quo, and those who don’t. Those who don’t are the ordinary everyday man and woman in the street who have low tier jobs in the civil service, local government, and organisations like the NHS(UK). They have nothing to gain (and a lot to lose) from the “right on”, progressive, globalist meme. What only reinforces their sense of alienation (and we saw this in the EU referendum in the UK), is when those in power start insulting and denigrating large chunks of the population. In the UK we were supposedly, racists, xenophobes, uneducated little Englanders. In the US they’re the “Deplorables” Most people are decent types and this sort of behaviour goes down badly with them. When presented with the opportunity to kick the establishment hard, they do exactly that. Who’d have thunk it ?

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      Peter C

      I was in America early this year. I thought that there was quite a lot of support for Trump in the country towns but in NY and Washington no one wanted to own him. However a taxi driver in NY said he thought that although he did not like Trump he thought that the country was in the mood to elect him. Taxi drivers usually know!

      Ross’ stats (63.2) look remarkable. There are more Democrat/Hiliary supporters than that I feel sure.

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        Chris

        I spent a few days on Long Island, NY., which is a strong Democrat area. Most people I spoke to were Hillary supporters.

        While I was there, Trump had a rally, and it was at Grumman Studios in Bethpage, and the place was packed. I saw it covered live on Fox News.

        I remember it well, as two of my friends I was staying with, work for Grumman Aerospace.

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      Wendy

      We are in Texas for another few days. Of course most of Texas is Republican so counting signs isn’t the most scientific BUT there were far more Trump signs than Hillary signs. I need to post my absentee ballot before we fly back to Perth. All of my friends here are voting Trump. Oh and another sign that Trump is doing well with mainstream America is that most Trump merchandise is sold out while Hillary merchandise languishes on the shelves. People voting with their pocket books. :D .
      For those who aren’t Americans, the Clintons have a long history of scandals going back to before Bill was governor of Arkansas. The Wikileaks emails, while shocking, are really no great surprise as they are just more confirmation of the depth of their unethical, immoral, lying and thieving character.
      Trump/Pence 2016!

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    Ross

    Peter

    I agree with via re Russia.

    Here is an interesting illustration of how far in the hole the US finances are:

    http://www.cnsnews.com/news/article/terence-p-jeffrey/first-clinton-trump-debate-debt-23699152550074

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    pat

    perfect for this thread:

    19 Oct: GatewayPundit: Kristinn Taylor: Reporters at Vegas Debate Caught Cheering for Hillary
    TWEET: Jesse Watters, Fox News: Watching debate in enormous room of media in Vegas. Press laughs and cheers for Hillary and groans and gasps when Trump speaks…
    http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2016/10/reporters-vegas-debate-caught-cheering-hillary/

    a perfect accompaniment for the above:

    18 Oct: Youtube: 2mins02secs: Ezra Levant, Rebel Media: UN bans reporters from climate conference for ‘having the wrong opinion’
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jFkPJoikXHo

    the time for talking’s over!

    19 Oct: Daily Caller: Michael Bastasch: EPA Chief: ‘I’m Not Talking To Climate Deniers’
    Environmental Protection Agency Administrator Gina McCarthy said she’s done talking to “climate deniers” who don’t think human activities are causing global warming.
    “If they haven’t figured out by now, what in God’s name could anyone say to them?” McCarthy said in a Facebook Live interview with Mashable Tuesday.
    “I don’t check out flat Earth society and I’m not talking to climate deniers,” she said. “That’s it. Sorry, I know I’m supposed to be for everybody, but my patience has worn thin over eight years.”…
    McCarthy told Mashable that while coal states are “in trouble” the industry “has been going downhill since the 1980s.”
    “This is not something that happened over the past administration,” she said in the interview…
    That’s not exactly true, however, since U.S. coal production actually peaked in 2008 when it hit about 300 short tons. What McCarthy is likely referring to is the fact coal jobs have been on steady decline since the 1980s due to increased automation and efficiency…
    This isn’t the first time McCarthy has singled out “climate deniers.” She said “normal people” not global warming skeptics would win the climate debate in a June 2015 speech at a White House summit.
    “I am doing that not to push back on climate deniers,” she said. “You can have fun doing that if you want, but I’ve batted my head against the wall too many times and if the science already hasn’t changed their mind it never will.”
    http://dailycaller.com/2016/10/19/epa-chief-im-not-talking-to-climate-deniers/

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    pat

    2 scalps, but nothing to see here! Dem operatives boast they shut down Trump’s Chicago rally and closed down a road in Arizona but, for Jordan/The Hill, that’s merely speaking about “ways” to spur violent confrontations. final paras are carefully crafted to continue the MSM’s narrative that it is Trump’s supporters who resorted to violence!

    19 Oct: The Hill: Jordan Fabian: White House urges ‘extreme caution’ on O’Keefe videos
    Press secretary Josh Earnest said the videos from conservative activist James O’Keefe should be taken with “a whole packet of salt” because of what he said is his penchant for selectively editing footage to cast subjects in an unflattering light.
    “I’ve been asked about videos that have come from this outlet in the past, and each time I have tried to urge people to take those reports not at face value,” Earnest said. “Because despite what the name might suggest, these videos have not often revealed the truth.”
    “At this point, I would urge extreme caution in drawing conclusions on anybody’s character” as a result of the videos, Earnest said.
    The videos from O’Keefe’s Project Veritas showed two Democrats speaking about ***ways to spur violent confrontations at the Republican presidential nominee’s campaign events…
    Foval was filmed saying the goal was for the demonstrators ***to be attacked by Trump supporters.
    “That is entirely inconsistent with the president’s view of community organizing and waging a vigorous campaign,” Earnest said. “We shouldn’t have to resort to violence.”
    http://thehill.com/homenews/administration/301811-white-house-urges-extreme-caution-on-okeefe-videos

    19 Oct: Breitbart: Jeff Poor: Five Times Obama as a Presidential Hopeful Questioned the Validity of the Election Process
    5) September 4, 2008 – Then-Democratic presidential nominee Sen. Barack Obama was asked about a “rigged” election at a rally at Ohio’s Kent State University. Obama admitted throughout history both Democrats and Republicans had “monkeyed” with elections:
    “I tell you what, it helps in Ohio that we have Democrats in charge of the machines.
    “But, look, I come from Chicago. So I want to be honest, it is not as if it is just Republicans who have monkeyed around with elections in the past. Sometimes Democrats have, too.
    Whenever people are in power, they have this tendency to try to, you know, tilt things in their direction…
    “That’s why we need paper trails on these new electronic machines, so that you actually have something that you can hang on to after you punched that letter to make sure it has not been hacked into.”…
    http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2016/10/19/five-times-obama-presidential-candidate-questioned-validity-election-process/

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    OMG! In ‘the debate’ Hilary of the insecure emails
    let out classified info, the response time btw President’s
    order and nuclear missile launch‘

    Sun Tzu, the Art of War:’
    ‘…when we are near, we must make the enemy believe we are
    far away; when far away, we must make him believe we are near.’

    Big fail, Hilary can’t protect the cits from the enemy at
    the gate or the trojan horse brought within, guvuhmint’s
    number one responsibility.

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    pat

    20 Oct: USC Dornsife/LA Times Poll: 10/20 — Trump + .3 , Clinton – .1

    19 Oct: FreeRepublic Forum: The Latest: GOP says it’ll accept election result – CNSNews.com
    The Republican National Committee will accept the results of the general election even if Donald Trump doesn’t.
    That’s according to RNC spokesman Sean Spicer. He says, “We’re going to respect the will of the people.”
    The answer was in response to Trump’s refusal during the debate to say whether he would concede if he loses the general election. He said, “I’ll keep you in suspense.”…
    FROM COMMENTS:
    This is a setup for an election-rigging by the Uniparty. Eff off and die, Uniparty. We got us a REAL leader – Donald Trump…

    “We’re going to respect the will of the people.”
    Electoral fraud isn’t the will of the people, ya dope! …

    That took all of thirty seconds. What took them so long?…

    What is he talking about? It’s not the will of the people if the election is stolen…

    he played the media again…they are melting down over this comment, which will in turn force them to cover the Okeefe videos…brilliant move….

    Sarah Palin: Trump gave potential cheaters fair warning that we’ll not give them any quarter. We’ll hold them accountable. They’d better be on their toes. Cheaters will not win.
    Of course Trump will accept the legitimate outcome of a legitimate election! What the heck is so hard to understand about that?…

    Let me reword the RNC statement (through a candor filter):
    “Voter fraud is fine as long as we can continue to maintain our pay for play status with K street lobbyists. Like the Democrats, we are here to serve ourselves and could not care less about the average American. We are the elite. They are idiots and can kiss our a__. Any other questions?”…
    http://freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3482629/posts

    Trump saying recently that he’ll work to set term limits for all politicians & lengthen the time between leaving politics & becoming a lobbyist might have prompted this quick disavowal of his position, that he’ll wait to see if there’s fraud before committing himself to accepting the results. of course, if he wins, both parties will probably claim the Russians hacked the election and cancel the result! lol.

    below, what are the very first words out of Fischer’s mouth?
    DONALD TRUMP.

    TIM SAYS HE AGREES WITH HIS DEAR FRIEND, KIM BEAZLEY, THAT IT WOULD BE AN ABSOLUTE DISASTER FOR THE WORLD IF TRUMP WINS THE PRESIDENCY. TIM NOW WORKS FOR A UNITED NATIONS-AFFILIATED GLOBAL ORGANISATION:

    19 Oct: ABC: Big Ideas: Tim Fischer: world trade disconnect
    It’s time he says, to rebrand a world trade equation and win back the debate against those who contend that all trade is a net negative and the root cause for all the economic ills in the world.
    The Frank Larkins Oration, International House, The University of Melbourne, August, 2016.
    The Honourable Tim Fischer, Deputy Prime Minister of Australia 1996 – 1999
    Ambassador to the Holy See 2009 – 2012
    Vice Chairman of the Global Crop Diversity Trust with Seed Vault in Norway 2012 -
    Chairman of FAMU Holdings
    http://www.abc.net.au/radionational/programs/bigideas/world-trade-disconnect/7918154

    Wikipedia: The Crop Trust, formerly known as the Global Crop Diversity Trust, is an international nonprofit organization which works to preserve crop diversity in order to protect global food security. It was established through a partnership between the United Nations Food and Agriculture Organization and the Consultative Group on International Agricultural Research acting through Bioversity International…
    The CropTrust has its offices in Bonn, Germany, after relocating there from Rome, Italy. The executive board is chaired by Ambassador Walter Fust (Switzerland) and the Vice chair is the Tim Fischer (Australia)…

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    RB.

    Did a quick search of the Australian ABC (government funded to the tune of over $1billion to avoid bias) and this is the closest to the story that I found.

    The World Today – Obama tells Trump ‘stop whining’ with rigged election claims 19/10/2016

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    Owen Morgan

    The American media have been spineless throughout the Obama era and British broadcasters and newspapers have been just about as bad, to the extent that the Daily Telegraph seems to derive its American news straight from CNN. Some years back, the DT had a correspondent in the US called Toby Harnden, who had a very inflated opinion of himself. Harnden’s American commentary was grotesquely inadequate.

    Back then, the Telegraph permitted readers to comment, so I did. I pointed out that, in all Harnden’s verbal candy floss, he had completely ignored two major scandals *: the payment of half a billion dollars in subsidy to failed “renewables” company Solyndra and the “Fast and Furious” gun-running scam. Harnden, it has to be said, doesn’t take criticism very well (which is odd, because he ought to be used to it, by now), so his response was tetchy, to say the least. Funnily enough, though, he did do a grudging piece referring to Solyndra and to Fast and Furious. Shortly afterwards, he joined the Daily Mail and took US citizenship – no great loss to either the DT, or the UK.

    The spinelessness of the American media was demonstrated many times over regarding Fast and Furious. The kind of guns that American journalists insist on terming “assault rifles” were handed over to very dodgy characters, whose job was to transfer them to Mexican drug cartels. When legitimate gun store owners reported these cases to the FBI, they were told to allow the sales, because the authorities wanted them to go ahead. Supposedly, the guns would be tracked to the bigwigs in charge of the cartels – except that there was no system in place to track them south of the border and only the daftest cartel leader is going to get his fingerprints on a murder weapon. Tragically, at least two hundred murders were committed with these firearms, although that is a drop in the ocean by Mexican standards.

    The scandal generated virtually no interest in the US media. Tellingly, when the Washington Post realised it had been told a blatant lie by the administration regarding the scandal, it persisted in suppressing the story. At CBS, a journalist called Sharyl Attkisson covered the story diligently and got no thanks from her superiors for doing so. She is no longer with CBS. Her account of her experiences, “Stonewalled” is well worth reading (although I do wish she hadn’t written the whole thing in the present tense).

    As far as the rest of the media was concerned, when a government agency intentionally puts guns in the hands of murderous criminals, that’s not news. It’s the same mentality that lets the media turn a blind eye to body parts farming, or to Kermit Gosnell, or to the implications of Hillary Clinton’s hopelessly compromised server. As I said elsewhere recently, the only reason America isn’t a banana republic is that its bananas aren’t any good.

    * There have been plenty more since then.

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    el gordo

    Climate change is supposedly the most important issue of our time, but the moderators never ask the question. Not that it particularly matters, the candidates are incapable of enlightening us on the subject, but it would have been fun to watch.

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    pat

    it is just a “flap”. most MSM is not at all interested in this story, of course. veteran reporter, Sweet, does damage control for Creamer:

    19 Oct: Chicago Sun-Times: Lynn Sweet: Dem consultant Robert Creamer explains role in Trump rally flap
    The video, which had more than 4 million views as of Wednesday afternoon, surfaced as Trump is stepping up his assertion, without evidence, that the election system is rigged against him…
    The video focuses on another Trump complaint: that outside agitators — not Trump’s backers — trigger fights at his rallies.
    Project Veritas Action, founded by James O’Keefe, has been criticized for selectively editing videos from its undercover operations aimed at liberal or Democratic allied organizations…
    Hours before the final presidential debate, O’Keefe said in a statement, will Clinton “disavow her lieutenant, Bob Creamer, whose foot soldiers have been inciting violence at political rallies?”
    Creamer told the Chicago Sun-Times that O’Keefe’s allegations that he and his firm had a role in inciting violence at Trump events “are completely untrue…
    White House visitor logs show Creamer has made 340 visits since Obama took office in January 2009.
    Creamer told the Sun-Times, “The Obama White House has regular meetings of progressive organizations every week. Lots of people go, including me.”
    Explaining the video scenes that included him, Creamer said he thought he was talking to a man who was a potential large donor to Democratic causes…
    Most of the allegations of triggering incidents with Trump backers in the video came from Scott Foval, a Creamer subcontractor fired in the wake of the video being released…
    Foval told The Associated Press in an email that he was set up. “This scheme to cast legitimate organizing activities as a sinister plot is nothing but a ruse,” he said.
    Creamer told the Sun-Times Foval was “bragging” about events that never actually happened…
    http://chicago.suntimes.com/news/dem-consultant-robert-creamer-explains-role-in-trump-rally-flap/

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    Dave in the States

    Well yesterday I got a text message on my phone from the Democrat Party in a state that I am not a residence of:

    Hi there, Registering to vote is simple and easy..Tap to get started…..

    I suspect that would have be followed by absentee voting for Hillary or automatically.

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    pat

    from Chicago Sun-Times:

    “Creamer told the Sun-Times Foval was “bragging” about events that never actually happened…”

    18 Oct: Youtube: 2min18secs: Project Veritas Proven Right by CNN Video
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=138&v=U-4w_jf_w0o

    there are youtubes with Zulema Rodriguez from the Veritas video at the Arizona road protest as well, but MSM obviously can’t navigate the internet.

    monolithic MSM have not disappointed:

    Reuters: Trump says he may not accept election result, in challenge to U.S. democracy
    NYT: Donald Trump Won’t Say if He’ll Accept Result of Election
    CNN: Donald Trump refuses to say whether he’ll accept election results
    Rolling Stone: At the Final Debate, Trump Threatens American Democracy
    ABC: Donald Trump says he may not accept US election result; Hillary Clinton says comments are ‘horrifying’
    UK Telegraph: US Presidential Debate: Donald Trump refuses to commit to accepting election results…
    Politico: Insiders: Trump’s refusal to accept election outcome is a big mistake
    Politico: NYT, Washington Post, WSJ denounce Trump’s refusal to accept election results

    VIDEO: 20 Oct: LegalInsurrection: Mark Finkelstein: MSNBC’s Scarborough Rips MSM’s Hypocritical ‘Freak Out’ Over Trump Refusal to Blindly Accept Election Result
    Scarborough to Liberals: Bathe In Your Hypocrisy!
    Every couple of weeks, Joe Scarborough rebuilds lost conservative street cred by going on a good rant against liberals and the MSM. He did so in spades on today’s Morning Joe, comprehensively crushing libs for their hypocrisy in “freaking out” over Trump’s wait-and-see answer at last night’s debate to the question of whether he’d accept the results of the election.
    Excerpts: “the media got something they can absolutely freak out about and claim that he is an agent of Vladimir Putin and destroying democracy in America and it’s just another example of the media having to find a little phrase and freak out when as a Republican I have listened to Democrats talk about the only two times we won the White House in like 800 years that we stole both elections . . . hell, even Bernie Sanders supporters just six months ago were saying that Hillary Clinton was rigging the election.”
    Note: before Joe went on his impressive rant, Mika Brzezinski narrated a good montage that Morning Joe had assembled of statements by the MSM and Dem candidates over the years, including Al Gore and Howard Dean, accusing elections of being “stolen,” etc….
    Scarborough: “Democrats have been whining for 16 years, they’re still writing articles about how Bush stole the elections in 2000 and 2004. So this holier-than-thou attitude about this is the first time anyone has suggested that the election is not a sacrosanct process, it’s a joke! So you guys bathe in that hypocrisy if you want to, I’d just like to hear how the debate went. Go ahead, bathe.”…
    http://legalinsurrection.com/2016/10/scarborough-rips-msms-hypocritical-freak-out-over-trump-refusal-to-blindly-accept-election-result/

    20 Oct: RasmussenReports: White House Watch: Trump Edges Ahead
    It’s too early to measure the impact of last night’s final presidential debate, but Republican Donald Trump now has a three-point lead nationally on Democrat Hillary Rodham Clinton.
    The latest Rasmussen Reports national telephone and online White House Watch survey finds Trump with 43% support among Likely U.S. Voters to Clinton’s 40%…

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    Speedy

    Morning all.

    WHY would someone want that job? The pay is lousy, the hours are terrible and the company you keep is just horrible. There could be only one good reason, and that would be for the service of the public.

    Neither Trump or Clinton look very convincing in that respect. Trump is creepy, Clinton is a crook with a twisted idea of humanity.

    “None of the Above” looks like a great option. Please contact Buckingham Palace, ask for Elizabeth.

    Cheers,

    Speedy

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    pat

    the real “threat to democracy” which is of no interest to the MSM!

    19 Oct: Breitbart: Lee Stranahan: Exclusive: O’Keefe Responds to White House False Claims About 340 Creamer Visits
    The Obama White House attempted to do damage control in a press conference Wednesday after a question was asked about Democratic operative Robert Creamer’s numerous visits to the White House.
    In an exclusive interview with James O’Keefe – the filmmaker and investigative journalist behind the blockbuster videos that forced the resignation of Robert Creamer from the Hillary Clinton campaign – Breitbart News has learned that more material connecting Creamer and the White House is on the way…
    O’Keefe: “We got them. Seeing the White House Press Secretary stumble through his denial was embarrassing but this isn’t over. We have hours and hours of footage, including audio recordings of phone calls between Robert Creamer and the White House.”…
    http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/politics/ct-robert-creamer-trump-rally-met-1020-20161019-story.html

    O’Keefe will be doing daily releases up until election day. he kept it to 2 short pieces today, probably because of the debate.

    guess a tweet is better than nothing, Ted!

    19 Oct: Washington Examiner: (Ted) Cruz demands investigation into WH visits of ‘voter fraud operative’
    By Pete Kasperowicz
    Sen. Ted Cruz, R-Texas, on Wednesday called for a “serious criminal investigation” into the dozens of White House visits that Robert Creamer made to the White House since 2009.
    “Voter fraud operative: 45 meetings w/Obama — this merits a serious criminal investigation,” Cruz said on Twitter.
    TWEET: Ted Cruz: Voter fraud operative: 45 meetings w/ Obama–this merits a serious criminal investigation (not a James Comey “friends and family” cover-up)…
    http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/cruz-demands-investigation-into-wh-visits-of-voter-fraud-operative/article/2604997

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    pat

    can this really be WaPo?

    19 Oct: WaPo: Ed Rogers: Trump won the third debate
    The fact is this is a change election, and Clinton is not the change candidate…
    Trump isn’t particularly light on his feet, but he was confident and competent talking about the economy. It’s a wonder he hasn’t talked about the economy during more of the campaign (ED HASN’T BEEN LISTENING OBVIOUSLY)…
    Given Trump’s performance, I expect to see some stories about panic in the Clinton universe by the time the Sunday shows roll around…
    https://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/post-partisan/wp/2016/10/19/trump-won-tonights-debate/?utm_term=.f08f615bba28

    btw Trump won all the focus group polls, including CNN.

    headlines on Drudge:

    FLASHBACK: Gore explains why he won’t concede election…
    Last week Hillary agreed he ‘won’ 2000…
    8 Times Liberals Claimed An Election Was Stolen…
    Kerry Thinks Bush Rigged 2004!
    POLL: 72% have concerns over voting security…
    Texas fraud prompts hotline offering $5,000 reward…
    FL Dem Party wants ballots allowed — before registration verified…
    PODESTA: OK for Illegals to Vote With Driver’s License…
    Nationalists and Populists Poised to Dominate European Balloting…

    a fascinating rabbit hole being discussed IN GREAT DEPTH on RedditThe_Donald, & 4Chan:

    19 Oct: McClatchy: Tim Johnson: WikiLeaks claims sham U.S. firm is trying to smear Assange
    WikiLeaks said its investigators conducted an inquiry into toddandclare.com and its parent, T&C Network Solutions, and found that it “exhibits the characteristics of a highly suspicious and likely fabricated business entity.”…
    The Houston company gained standing apparently as a defender of women’s rights with the ***U.N. Global Compact, a UN-created initiative to persuade businesses to adopt socially responsible policies…
    On Wednesday, WikiLeaks tweeted that “internet sleuths” had linked a “mysterious intelligence contractor” close to Clinton to the alleged smear effort.
    It said that an archival internet search linked toddandclare.com to an address in San Francisco that until a year or so ago was used by Premise Data, a data crunching firm whose cofounder and chief executive, David Soloff, is seen in a ***photo earlier this year with Clinton. He denied any connections to the smears or the Clinton campaign.
    “Premise is not associated with, has never had dealings with, and has no knowledge of T&C Network Solutions,” Soloff said in an email…
    “We have no professional or donor affiliation with any political candidate,” Soloff added. “The picture you refer to was taken at a speaking event near Washington, DC in January or February 2016. I was offered an opportunity to say hello to the candidate and I did so!”
    http://www.mcclatchydc.com/news/politics-government/election/article109255732.html

    ***Soloff also claims he met with Clinton VP nominee, Tim Kaine, for an hour. lots can be found if u search sites like Reddit, 4Chan. search Assange + Premise Data Corporation.

    BACKGROUND:

    18 Oct: Wikileaks: Background and Documents on Attempts to Frame Assange as a Pedophile and Russian spy
    ATTACHMENTS AT BOTTOM
    https://www.wikileaks.org/Background-and-Documents-on-Attempts-to-Frame-Assange-as-a-Pedophile-and.html

    meanwhile, Wikileaks #13 Podesta Emails has been released.

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    Roy Hogue

    I guess this violates my intent to not comment. But I think a point is being missed here. It’s the people of the United States who have to shoulder the responsibility for what’s gone wrong. We have control over who we put into office. We can do something about the problem at every election if we want to. Conclusion: we don’t want to or we would have long ago done something by voting for better candidates and by becoming and remaining more involved in the running of our country. Instead we choose to stay ignorant of what’s happening. Instead we choose to listen only to the voices that reinforce our favorite belief about the way things are or the way they should be. Instead we work only for the accomplishment of our own narrow interest if we do become involved. Instead we dig ourselves protected little lives as isolated from politics as we can make them until we have to step up and vote again. When a majority (however that is determined, the electoral college complicates defining it) acts so as to let the problem continue, the battle and the war are lost.

    WE ARE THE PROBLEM, not the Democrat, Republican or any other political party, not any other group or interest. We have led ourselves here.

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    Marcie Xayavong

    It’s exhausting to seek out knowledgeable folks on this matter, but you sound like you recognize what you’re speaking about! Thanks

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      Oliver K. Manuel

      Yes, it was exhausting trying to identify truth in the midst of politically-correct, “97% consensus science.”

      We found it in Brookhaven National Laboratory’s precise rest mass measurements of the ~3,000 types of atoms that compromise all matter.

      That is how neutron repulsion was discovered, the source of energy that powers the Sun and the cosmos!

      The discovery was reported in: New Dawn of Truth – The London 2016 Conference on Climate Change: Science & Geoethics – Conference Volume of Extended Abstracts & Commentary Notes, Third Revision (N.-A. Mörner, editor, ResearchGate Publication Number 30601327, 2016) pp. 86-87

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