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A Fun Fact to wreck a nation Mr Prime Minister?

Elephant Bubble FantasyBy Jo Nova

The World’s Renewables Crash-Test-Dummy has officially set new magical emissions-reductions-targets. It’s just a different shade of impossible, so nothing’s changed. But the labels on the staircase to Green Heaven have switched from 43% to 62%. The UN and President Xi will be happy.

It won’t change world temperatures but it might be enough to bribe the UN with to “win” the Olympics of Climate Conferences — the junket to end all junkets. The annual private jet party of bureaucratic celebrities.

When our PM was asked why Australia should set targets for global weather control when the three biggest countries on Earth are not, he whipped out a “fun fact” to run a nation by — as Graham Lloyd noticed in The Australian.

[Anthony Albanese] hit out at Coalition MPs who argue Australia should not adopt ambitious targets when there was a lack of action from big emitters the US, China and India.

“The amount of wind and solar power under construction in China is now nearly twice as much as the rest of the world combined. Just a fun fact there,” he said.

It’s almost like the PM is managing the country like it’s his Tik Tok account. Sadly for him (worse for us) it’s like a conversation with a troll. Before we spend a trillion dollars, and fry the national grid, we’d hope Anthony Albanese could answer our questions. Just because China is installing lots of useless wind and solar plants, doesn’t mean we should too. (They’re also cutting Taiwan’s subsea cables, leaking bioweapons, and harvesting organs from prisoners. Just say “No”. OK? ) China has also sacked one third of their solar manufacturing workforce. Perhaps they’re just installing all the left over solar panels they can’t sell to anyone?

China might be installing all that wind and solar, but their emissions are off with a rocket

Doesn’t that matter, and isn’t it sort of the whole point? (And will the ABC ever ask?)

Lloyd points out that China’s emissions grew by more than Australia’s total annual output.

Looking at all the energy sources used by China we get a clue why their emissions are not falling:

Likewise, here’s Australia’s total energy use by source in TWh on the same scale as China’s:

These graphs include all energy sources including industry and transport and not just electricity, that’s why oil is higher than coal in Australia.

For the record, assuming the numbers are accurate (though I don’t know why we would) China has 30 times as much wind power, and 19 times as much solar power as Australia does —  and burns 61 times as much coal. The figures below are TWh for China and Australia from OWID.

 

Fuel source  China  Australia  Ratio
Coal  25,599     423    61
Oil   8,964     620    15
Gas    4,344     370    11
Hydro   3,303      37  107
Wind    2,432     878    30
Solar   2,046     123    19
Nuclear    1,099             –
Biofuels     37      1   29
Other renewables    652      9   70

China also has 107 times as much hydropower.  (And we thought the Snowy Hydro Scheme was big. )

But seriously,  cherry-picked glib inanities is hardly a way to run a country. It is an insults to hardworking Australians. If the media and opposition hounded him on the sheer pointlessness of our Net Zero piety, he would have never been elected.

That’s why billionaires buy the media. isn’t it?

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REFERENCES

OWID and the Energy Institute – Statistical Review of World Energy (2025)

Image by Дмитрий Бирюков from Pixabay

 

 

 

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110 comments to A Fun Fact to wreck a nation Mr Prime Minister?

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    David Maddison

    Our communist PM has placed Australia in full self-destruct mode.

    Yes, he is a full-on commie as documented in:

    Comrade Prime Minister: Anthony Albanese’s 40-Year Alliance with Australian Communism by Trevor Loudon.

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      Geoff Croker

      Is the CSIRO receiving any financial benefit directly or indirectly from China in the ALP government’s pursuit of Net Zero?

      Is Australia selling Aussie T-Bills to communist China? What are the terms?

      Do any union backed superannuation schemes have communist China shareholders?

      Are any ex-ALP Ministers eg Daniel Andrews, Bob Carr, Julia Gillard receiving any payments for arranging project finance for state government projects? eg the SRL

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        David Maddison

        If we had a competent media, these would be exactly the type of questions they should be asking.

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          Geoff Croker

          On the recent circumnavigation of Australia by the Chinese Navy forces it was extremely unlikely that the oiler that sailed with that task force had enough oil to achieve the task. Who refilled the oiler? From who and where did the oil originate?

          If China decides to send a full battle squadron including an aircraft carrier on a similar journey will be same resupply method be used?

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        David Maddison

        The following article is ten years old and it’s all I could find.

        It’s probably FAR worse now.

        And Australian Government debt (federal, state and local) is now over $2.1 trillion dollars. http://australiandebtclock.com.au/

        https://www.abc.net.au/news/2015-10-01/chinese-ownership-of-australian-debt-much-higher-than-thought/6821346

        China may own up to 20 per cent of Australian Government debt: RBC

        China may own as much as 20 per cent of all Australian Government debt according to big Canadian investment bank RBC.

        Collating numbers released in the IMF’s quarterly update on foreign exchange reserves, RBC’s Sydney-based fixed income strategist Michael Turner said it appeared China held around $130 billion of the $730 billion Australian Government and quasi-government bonds in the market.

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        Dennis

        The Australian Government, under the ruling Labor Party, formed the Climate Commission in February 2011 to act as an independent advisory group to report on the science of climate change. Following the Australian federal election in September 2013, the Labor Party lost power to the Liberal/National coalition, with Tony Abbott installed as Prime Minister. On 19 September 2013, Abbott instructed his ministers to disband the Climate Commission. Among the reasons given for closing the Commission were to “streamline government processes and avoid duplication of services”, and to save the A$1.6 million per year spent in operating the Commission. Responsibility for advising the government on climate change was consolidated under the Bureau of Meteorology.

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      OldOzzie

      One of the Comments on the Graham LLoyd Article

      21 minutes ago

      I can’t help thinking Federal and Victoria State Labor have struck a deal with China to purchase their renewables and help grow China’s economy at our expense. A little bit suspicious that Albo, Andrews and now Allan have travelled there and had private meetings with Chinese officials.

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      cohenite

      Correct. Just look at Albo’s student activist years: he was part of the Young Bolsheviks, was interviewed by the commie rag, the Tribune, was mentored at uni by Ted Wheelwright, a declared commie and when he went straight to the alp did so under the wing of Tom Uren, another declared commie. The guy has never grown up so it’s natural his activist instincts would go towards the biggest issue the left can have: saving the planet. Global warming and renewables are propaganda but albo and blackout completely believe in them and are happy to force them on the rest of us knowing an additional benefit will be the destruction of the economy and will make it easy to also force a collective, government run economy, that is communism, on us.

      Australia has gone from the cheapest electricity in the world to almost the dearest. And while other equally leftist nations which have also embraced global boiling are going nuclear, such as the UK, even that sensible compromise has been denied to us. Of course the banning of nuclear was done under the steerage of little Johnnie who in a deal with the greens introduced the Australian Radiation Protection and Nuclear Safety Act 1998 (ARPANS Act) and the Environment Protection and Biodiversity Conservation Act 1999 (EPBC Act). So, it’s not just this ideological alp but the stupid LNP as well.

      God help us.

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      OldOzzie

      Is The World’s Renewables Crash-Test-Dummy Labor PM Albo having officially set new magical emissions-reductions-targets. It’s just a different shade of impossible, so nothing’s changed. But the labels on the staircase to Green Heaven have switched from 43% to 62%. The UN and President Xi will be happy, leading Australia to This?.

      In a desperate state, Victoria’s Premier turns to ‘loan shark’ China

      It is highly unlikely any commercial entity would sink money into the almost uninvestable state of Victoria.

      JANET ALBRECHTSEN

      It’s true that unlike the average commercial debtor, Victoria can raise new taxes to help it out of the hole. But there’s a limit to this strategy, which Victoria is rapidly approaching.

      Victorian state taxes are already driving investors to other states. The cost of doing business in Victoria is growing so dramatically that it risks becoming uninvestable for ordinary commercial enterprises.

      And so, Victoria arrives at the last stop on its fall from grace. Its only recourse is the sovereign equivalent of a payday lender or loan shark. China.

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      Graham Richards

      Would any of the above commentators trust the Albanese Government with sensitive
      sensitive security information or secret / sensitive information about assets like maybe nuclear submarines???

      I know of a President that doesn’t!!!

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      Dennis

      After finishing school, Albanese worked briefly at the Commonwealth Bank before enrolling in an economics degree at the University of Sydney. There, he became involved in student politics and was elected to the Students’ Representative Council (SRC). He stood unsuccessfully for the SRC presidency in 1983, losing to Belinda Neal. It was also there where he started his rise as a key player in the ALP’s Labor Left. During his time in student politics, Albanese led a group within Young Labor that was aligned with the left faction’s Hard Left, which maintained “links with broader left-wing groups, such as the Communist Party of Australia, People for Nuclear Disarmament and the African National Congress”.

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    David Maddison

    These days it’s impossible not to be properly informed of the facts so one can only conclude our (Australia’s) politicians and senior public serpents who tell them what to think are not acting out of ignorance but a genuine desire to destroy the country.

    This waa happening in the United States as well but then along came TRUMP to put a stop to it.

    We don’t have a TRUMP and our main “opposition” political party is only slightly less bad than Labor.

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      Dave of Gold Coast

      David, you are so right, Trump has put a stop to much of the rot in the US. The left over there are even worse than here with their widespread murder and mayhem. However I read Trump also gave the British PM a serve over unrestrained and illegal immigrants, our other big and destructive elephant in the room. The current Aussie hating mob in Canberra lie, pretend all is well while driving our country in debt and despair. A pox on all of them!

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        Trump will be giving Herr Starmer a big serve today in the UK on the State visit.

        I hope he does the same to Airbus Albo when he finally gets to meet with the Don in Washington.

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      OldOzzie

      The ‘Renewables’ Movement Is Making Itself Wholly Unappealing

      As noted before, the “alternative energy” movement, rather than positioning itself as a partner with conventional energy, is instead devoted to the complete demise of reliable and affordable energy resources while framing itself as the only path forward.

      But there are three ongoing developments providing reasons to believe that its efforts are doomed to failure.

      Green” movement in retreat

      “Renewables” are facing a combination of political and legal headwinds. With the election of Donald Trump as president and the pro-traditional energy Republicans now in Congress, the gravy train that was once rolling full steam ahead has come to an abrupt halt, leaving the “renewables” movement feeling stranded.

      “Renewables” workforce in short supply

      The “renewables” movement is facing a workforce crisis in both white- and blue-collar jobs. The shortage has been years in the making, leading one analyst to conclude, “It’s unclear where these employees will come from in the future. There are too few people with specialized and relevant expertise and experience, and too many of them are departing for other companies or other industries.”

      Climate claims increasingly outrageous

      It’s one thing to raise climate-related alarms about melting icebergs or more fires and floods.

      But the inability to coach tennis? That’s a complaint of a Wisconsin teenager who is one of eight children aged 8-17 who recently sued the state through two non-profit law firms over its fossil fuel policies.

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      Dennis

      To be considered if you can find a copy …

      ABC 24 HOURS February 1992 – Special Supplement

      Whatever Happened To The New World Order?

      The full text of the six-lecture series broadcast on Radio National’s India Pacific from 4 January to 8 February 1992.

      Comprehensive coverage of international politics and United Nations involvements – transfer of manufacturing industry and wealth, free trade agreements that have become subsidised exports by developing nations and the centre of POTUS Trump’s MAGA campaign.

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    Simon

    China has a much larger population than Australia. It has committed to peak carbon emissions by 2030 and net zero by 2060. Whether this commitment is more or less believable than Australia’s is conjecture, it depends upon the will of future political leaders. China is a country that is not particularly resilient to the expected future climate, they have to mitigate.
    The target is not impossible, the forefront of technological innovation is now in China. There have been some recent impressive breakthroughs in battery technology.

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      David Maddison

      Simon, we keep getting told by the Left that “renewables” are the cheapest and most reliable form of electricity production.

      So why would China be building two coal power stations per week plus nuclear and hydro instead of investing in this “cheapest and most reliable” form of electricity production?

      And if 4 molecules in 10,000 of CO2 (about 96% of natural origin) is an existential threat, why don’t they stop producing CO2 immediately?

      Plus China is an advanced military, space, nuclear power, nuclear weapons, manufacturing and AI power. They are not a developing country as falsely claimed. They should be subject to the same rules as other developed countries.

      Fundamentally the whole scam is about empowering China and destroying the West. TRUMP is the only one who recognises this and has fully put a stop to the destruction of his country by the anti-energy lobby.

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      Steve

      It has committed to peak carbon emissions by 2030 and net zero by 2060

      Sure, if by committed you mean ‘vague promises it has no intention of keeping’.

      https://www.npr.org/2023/03/02/1160441919/china-is-building-six-times-more-new-coal-plants-than-other-countries-report-fin

      China is building 6X as many new coal plants per year as the rest of the world combined with no sign of slowing down new construction. Coal plants have a useful life of 40-50 years, so all those new plants they have built over the past decade will be running well past 2050, and all the new coal plants still on the drawing board will be running past 2060. But sure, they are totally super-serious about that 2030 goal.

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        wal1957

        Not even vague promises.
        It’s pure bulldust.
        The fanatics use this “committment” by China as an excuse so they won’t have to criticise the largest CO2 emitter in the world.
        Speaking of promises and bulldust, I wonder how Simon is enjoying the $275 “cheaper” electrickery that was promised during the election campaign. There were no terms or conditions, it was a promise. Politicians…I don’t know why anyone believes anything that comes out of their mouths.

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      David Maddison

      Also Simon, coal power stations are not short-lived semi-disposable installations like wind and solar plantations. Coal power stations have an absolute minimum service life of 50 years and often much longer. So the coal power stations China is building today will still be in use until at least 2075 and probably much longer, well beyond any supposed emissions target China is pretending to meet.

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        Dennis

        If the net zero emissions political agenda was achieved, noting the economic vandalism increasing as implemented, it is admitted that 30 percent of electricity here would continue to be generated by power stations.

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      Robert Swan

      Simon,

      China has a much larger population than Australia.

      Yes, indeed it does.

      Their population, at about 1.4 billion, is just under 52× Australia’s 27 million. Huge!

      Consulting Jo’s handy ratios we see that they burn 61× as much coal as Australia. IOW even their per-capita coal burning is higher than Australia’s, and climbing *fast*.

      About time we started burning more coal too.

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      Tel

      Your definition of “committed to” probably isn’t too reliable.

      China equally committed to never installing military bases on those little reef islands in the West Phillipines Sea. Emperor Xi personally made this promise to President Obama face-to-face in 2015 and later promised the same to Trump … and broke his own promise just as easily.

      https://thediplomat.com/2016/12/its-official-xi-jinping-breaks-his-non-militarization-pledge-in-the-spratlys/

      You didn’t know about that did you?

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      Serge Wright

      And how much of your own money would you bet that China’s emissions will peak in 2030 ?. We all know the answer is zero dollars, because only a complete idiot would really believe that fantasy. Since the UNFCCC agreement was signed in 1992, China has increased it’s emissions by 400%, all during a time when we’re told the planet will boil unless we stop. So why did they go on the biggest emissions binge in human history just after all western nations embarked on the opposite ?. That’s the part of the story no lefty wants to discuss because all roads lead to one answer, which is the real inconvenient truth.

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      Graeme4

      Simon, were you aware that China moved its emissions “target” out from 2050 to 2060? Ever thought why it moved the target that far out?

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      cohenite

      Some recent improvements in battery technology eh; no doubt but batteries do not produce power; they store it and release it and lose up to 30% of the stored power in the process. If your only source of power is weather dependent, unreliable renewables, how the hell can you get power into the batteries in the first place.

      Building batteries also uses rare earths and extensive mining. To adequately have enough battery storage will cost Australia a $trillion, on top of the $trillions already being spent on renewables. Batteries are like every other aspect of the renewables scam: utter junk

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        Batteries can only provide power for 4 hours at best.

        Not good enough for a modern Economy. When they can provide power for say 2 to 3 weeks, then yes, very good. Until then keep dreaming.

        Snowy 2.0 won’t do it. There is not enough water.

        Just go Nuclear and the South Koreans can do it. Get them here quick smart on a mission to save Australia (from itself and the Marxists).

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        Tel

        It can work if virtually unlimited money is available.

        Up until recently all the batteries were dangerous, unreliable, short lifespan and expensive. The only battery technology even close to safe and reliable would be Lithium-Titanium alloy (sometimes called LiTe) … giving a decent number of cycles and workable operating temperature range for Australia. Lithium-Polymer (LiPO) is way too heat sensitive and can catch fire easily.

        In terms of power generation, take a conservative capacity factor on the renewables, of about 20% … and then you need five times as much peak generation as you intend to actually use … plus a bit extra for losses and maybe a bit more for contingency. It can be done, but not at a price Australia could ever afford.

        The Lithium-Titanium batteries are extremely expensive … do a search because if I put a price in here no one would believe me. They will of course slowly come down over time … no doubt in another century people will look back an wonder how we survived without it.

        Here’s a thing though … just consider how much extra CO2 the Ukraine War must have produced. All the artillery, explosives, fuel for tanks and aircraft. Must have been staggering … and how much effort did our overlords put into genuine negotiations to prevent that? Not a whole lot, huh? Not exactly the behaviour of people who believe that “Climate Emergency” is the greatest threat to mankind. They revealed that they don’t really believe it themselves.

        Then check the CO2 measurement chart … no detectable dip for 2021 and 2022 when half the world was in lockdown … and no detectable upwards jump from 2022 onwards when the biggest war of my lifetime was underway. If there’s no discernible contrast between those extremes then what the heck are we even bothered with?!?

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      el+gordo

      ‘China has a much larger population than Australia.’

      That is a political ploy and it won’t wash. The CCP don’t believe in AGW and are taking full advantage, otherwise they would try and save the planet for the sake of the grandchildren.

      What we see in Australia is blatant virtue signalling and the Opposition is going to tear them apart. Its good sport and the MSM have to report it.

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      Ronin

      So while everyone else is at least trying to reduce emissions by 2030, China has said they will keep on increasing them until then and then maybe, just maybe , they might make a token effort to reduce them.

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    ” politicians and senior public serpents who tell them what to think are not acting out of ignorance but a genuine desire to destroy the country.”

    It is the good old Duck Rule, again.

    “If it looks like a duck, and if it walks like a duck, and if it quacks like a duck – it very probably IS a duck.”

    Here, it looks like they are trying to destroy Australia, and the effect of their actions is destroying Australia, then, even if they won’t admit they are trying to destroy Australia – they probably ARE trying to destroy Australia.

    And the UK, too.

    Auto

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    David Maddison

    How much more destruction can the Australian economy sustain before things get REALLY bad? As if they aren’t bad enough from 25+ years of the ongoing destruction of our energy supply? This has led to some of the world’s highest electricity costs causing economic hardship and shut-down of industry, or massive taxpayer subsidies to keep some industries going. Even “renewable” energy itself is such an economic disaster, it too needs to be subsidised by the consumer via high electricity bills and forced purchase arrangements.

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    TdeF

    According to Climate Change logic, The ONLY thing that matters is how much CO2 you output.
    It doesn’t matter how much wind and solar and hydro you install.

    But the Australian public service monitors of Clean energy have the two following metrics

    • Net greenhouse gas emissions
    Renewable share of electricity generation

    The second is completely wrong, but used in the Net Zero target.
    They don’t understand their own Climate Science and the solitary role of CO2 in determining Global Temperature. CO2 is all that matters.

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      Tel

      Virtue signalling but in this context it kinda makes sense … from a certain mindset … it should be obvious to everyone that with a small population, Australia is not going to make a difference, all by ourselves, regardless of what we do.

      Therefore the only positive action Australia could take is to act as a role model and encourage larger countries, like China and India, to follow our exemplary example. Sadly, all we have so far demonstrated is that the whole thing was a dang stupid idea and China has made it clear they have no intention whatever to ruin their newly built industrial base.

      China of course is laughing … because by now they must surely know the “Climate Emergency” has been a scam from day one. They are taking every advantage they can, and I suppose I can’t blame them.

      It could be that the true purpose of Australia is to serve as a warning to others.

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        TdeF

        Role model for what? Stupidity? Absurdity?

        And for whom? America, China, India, Russia, Africa, South America, Eastern Europe, Asia, SE Asia are not going to do anything. Only 5% of the world’s population are doing anything currently. They are not going to be motivated by our falling on our own sword for no good reason.

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    YallaYPoora Kid

    Albo is an intellectual lightweight who assumes the Australian populace is the same. His response to any difficult question is to say look over there. Such a waste of space and one of our worst self-serving and ignorant PMs.

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      David Maddison

      He is far worse than just an intellectual lightweight. He is a simpleton. I cringe even to hear him talk.

      Albanese is exactly the type of useful idiot needed by those from whom he takes instructions.

      The only “achievement” of Albanese and the only thing he seems to be knowledgeable of or gets excited about is his claim never to have missed a Sydney Gay Mardis Gras since 1984.

      See video: https://youtu.be/Mtn7fbbLfP4

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        Dave of Gold Coast

        I think he is a pathological liar who is being paid to destroy our country. Plus he has surrounded himself with his minions who are every bit as bad to make sure the job is fully done.

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    Lawrie

    Ten years ago I said that we were governed by fools who were advised by idiots. If anything it has gotten worse. There is nothing so dangerous as an ignorant fool with the authority to do foolish things and that sums up Bowen and Albanese.

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    Kalm Keith

    While listening to the local radio station in my car yesterday I heard a wonderful song, done country style, about our climate carer “Bowen”.
    Hilarious but also right on in highlighting climate politics.
    Not the sort of thing you’d hear from their ABCCC.

    Later on another station there was a blurb by Laba’s climate spokie, somebody called Matt Keane.
    Wasn’t he a Libral?

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    Tony Dique

    We’re being “governed” (and I use that term loosely) by the dumbest sock puppets in the class.

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      TdeF

      I hate to say it, but no one’s that dumb. He is getting his orders from China. There are three types. Trot. Leninist. Stalinist. The Greens and Teals are just useful idiots if not active conspirators. Certainly Dr. Adam Bandt was is committed Leninist, as Green as the sunset.

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        TdeF

        “Tell them what they want to hear and when we get power, we do what we like”. Adam Bandt.

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        el+gordo

        ‘He is getting his orders from China.’

        Albo is not a Bolshie and he already knows that regime change is taking place in Beijing. Excellent trading partners and handsome boy is leading the charge.

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    Paulie

    While not useful as a guide for investors, in project management, the phrase “past performance predicts future outcomes” is rarely wrong. In 3½ years of Labor government, Australia’s CO2 emissions have barely reduced:
    https://www.dcceew.gov.au/sites/default/files/documents/quarterly-update-australia-national-greenhouse-gas-inventory-march-2025.pdf

    The government’s failure to achieve credible emission reductions is because their 2030 target was built almost entirely on emission reductions from their clean energy transition. By 2030, Labor’s target was to achieve 82% renewable generation.

    The devil is in the detail. That 82% renewables target translates to 6% hydro and 76% wind and solar. A pity that no country in the world has ever achieved this level of generation from wind and solar:
    https://www.energyinst.org/statistical-review

    Only two countries achieved more than 60% wind and solar in 2024: Denmark and Lithuania. Both physically small, with electricity grids thoroughly interconnected with their neighbours. Only 5 more countries achieved more than 40%, and a further 5 countries achieved more than 30%

    Where is Australia on that list? #13 at 29.45% generation from wind and solar. That is after 16 years of subsidies and renewable farms being constructed in the best locations. Labor believes that renewable generation from wind and solar will more than double over the next 5 years! No wonder the experts in the electricity sector are firmly of the opinion that these targets will never happen:
    https://wattclarity.com.au/articles/2025/09/15sept-oliver-isp-divorced-from-reality/

    Of course, as I have been saying for some time, the entire “clean energy transition” is fundamentally flawed. No one has ever been able to demonstrate a prototype renewables grid running exclusively on energy generated by wind and solar, anywhere in the world. Australia will need a grid running at 94% generation from wind and solar, and to date, no one knows if that is physically possible.

    There is no viable target that our “clean energy transition” is aiming to achieve. That’s why Labor kept using the word “ambitious” in their announcement of their 2035 targets. It sounds so much better than “pie-in-the-sky”, “impossible”, or the more appropriate “tell him he’s dreaming”.

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      John in Oz

      “Only two countries achieved more than 60% wind and solar in 2024”

      This only matters if it was a CONSTANT supply of power, not intermittent.

      ‘They’ try to convince us of the benefits of ruinables by using total outputs but power is only useful if available when it is needed.

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      RickWill

      Only two countries achieved more than 60% wind and solar in 2024:

      One State in Australia achieved 72.4% wind and solar electricity generation over the past 12 months.Rooftops were not detectable at system level just a decade ago but contributed 22.3% of SA electricity in the last year. The uptake of rooftop solar has not slowed down.

      The Australian grid is in transition to rooftops. No industry left, just rooftops supplying households and the low energy intensive businesses that can install rooftop solar. Both grid wind and solar are transition generators. They will supply little to no electricity in South Australia by 2040 – just 15 years from now.

      Western Australia is a couple of years behind SA. And the rest of Australia following the same path.

      Rooftops are robbing the wholesale demand and making the grid thoroughly uneconomic. Only an incompetent fool would invest in grid assets in Australia. Please stand up Blackout and expose Australian taxpayers to this dreadful waste of resources.

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        Graeme4

        We have discussed this before, but the latest figures on the sales of rooftop solar clearly show that their sales are decreasing, not increasing. See Colin Packham’s article “Boom in battery sales for domestic power is offsetting the decline in take-up of rooftop solar panels”, The Australian 15 September. The article states that rooftop solar installations fell 18% year-on-year, with 115,584 systems added between January and June, the weakest first-half result since 2019.
        So I believe that your statements about the growth in rooftop systems are a tad optimistic.

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          Ross

          That’s because the battery systems are super smart and seem able to recharge when the grid price is at its cheapest. So, making sure you recharge your Tesla with the cheapest electricity. Basically bypassing solar panels.

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            Western Australia is a couple of years behind SA.

            RickWill, WA is not behind SA in risk. We have no extension cord, no Heywood interconnector to coal plants. I shall be posting dedicated stuff on the wild experiment that the West has become. The solar penetration on our whole grid is vastly more than on the NEM. We have become the test case.

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          RickWill

          on-year, with 115,584 systems added between January and June

          The installed capacity in H1 was 1.1GW and installations usually accelerate as summer approaches in the second half.
          https://naturalsolar.com.au/wp-content/uploads/2021/11/Picture-1.png
          This year is forecast to have 3.3GW installed – second highest to 2021.

          Batteries are reducing the overvioltage curtailment of rooftop solar. My system has not been constrained since I installed the battery. The eariest it has exported power so far is 2pm. There were 85,000 batteries installed in H1 and the rate has accelerated.

          South Australian rooftops now often power the State for a couple of hours per day. This was something that has been often stated on this site as being impossible.

          When the supermarket chains are selling systems you know it is big business but they will cut margins by increasing volume..

          Rooftops with batteries are now the only way to add capacity without constraint. Blackout can throw our money at grid scale wind and solar but it will have very little impact on penetration because the market is being taken away by rooftops. The grid is dead economically.

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            Ross

            Would you say RickWill- the law of unintended consequences strikes again? The original idea was to replace coal/gas (because climate) but all they will succeed in doing is obliterating big wind and big solar. Or maybe that’s schadenfreude, I can never remember.

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              RickWill

              The voters are voting with their money. They are making it impossible for Blackout to throw our money at it because no responsible grid scale proponent would risk their own. So he will be forced to do what Victoria is doing and sign on to China’s B&R. The fact that Sleezy spoke highly of the Chinese wind and solar systems is consistent with that.

              You can imagine the uproar when Chinese industrialists rock up at the front gate with a piece of paper to say they have permission to build a solar or wind farm on your land.

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                The voters are NOT voting with their money — they are voting with subsidies from poor Australians. Take away the subsidies and see what happens to solar and batteries. Phht.

                It is another fake boom like all the others.

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            Graeme4

            The ABC report stated that it was a year-on-year figure, not just a half-year result as you seem to imply. So my comment still stands.

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            Kalm Keith

            So, rooftop is the “least worse” of the three?
            It isn’t much of a recommendation that it beats wind and solar farms.

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        Gazzatron

        RickWill,
        I’m a bit confused by your statements? What do you mean by this statement? “Please stand up Blackout and expose Australian taxpayers to this dreadful waste of resources.”
        Also you appear to be advocating for Rooftop solar and household batteries as a viable solution to the end game of Bowen’s energy transition, are you pro “renewables”?
        Rooftop solar has been the biggest disaster to our grid systems, Zoe Hilton at CIS did a good report on this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ble8cph69OI

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      If an ‘Industry’ cannot succeed after 16 years of subsidies then it should be ditched. In the UK, the Wind Towers have been subsidised for 35 years.

      Economic vandalism on a World class scale.

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    TdeF

    And you have to love this “The private sector would need to “lean in” with investment and technology development to hit the higher end of the goal.” So the magic pudding part of Albanese’s plan is left to private companies? Like all crazy unrealistic stories, this one is dependent on inventions which do not yet exist, but on which government plans are laid.

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    RickWill

    This was in Susan Lay’s resp[onse to the new targets:

    Australia must act on climate change. However, targets must be grounded in reality, achievable, and protect jobs and household budgets.

    The Liberals will not get my vote while scammers are running the show.

    The good jobs have gone as the heavy industry has departed. Victoria is set to get 1M Chinese visitors per year. The economy will shift to low paid service jobs for wealthy Chinese industrialists.

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    In the football (soccer) game of Climate Change – China won (one) v Australia NIL.

    Australia scored the own goal.

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    Maptram

    “The amount of wind and solar power under construction in China is now nearly twice as much as the rest of the world combined. Just a fun fact there,” he said.”

    That’s the fun fact. The real fact is that all that wind and solar power under construction is just as unreliable as it is anywhere else

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      Graeme4

      And a lot of the new wind and solar is not being used – it’s being constrained, so the actual percentage of wind and solar use is not increasing. Reuters reported this fact on 5 August. China added 268GW (nameplate) of new solar and wind in the first six months of 2025, but the curtailment rate rose from 3.9% to 6.6%, with some regions in China curtailing up to 30% of their renewable energy.

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    Neville

    Today Wiki is quoting average Aussie wind capacity factor of just 24% and solar still at 15%.
    So every year solar would have an average generation period of 1.8 months and Wind about 2.9 months.
    Is this lunacy worth the WASTE of 7 to 9 TRILLION $?
    And how do we repay the debt and how do we defend ourselves and still retain our national security? Anyone have any ideas?

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wind_power_by_country

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      RickWill

      And how do we repay the debt and how do we defend ourselves and still retain our national security? Anyone have any ideas?

      Australia is outsourcing all this to China. Your great, great grandchildren will be still paying the debt. Unless Australia can extract more royalties from the iron ore, coal and gas exported to China.

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    Neville

    Again, here’s the quote from CSIRO Cape Grim, telling us that the SH is already a net SINK of co2 and the NH is a net SOURCE of co2.

    “Seasonal variation”

    “Carbon dioxide concentrations show seasonal variations (annual cycles) that vary according to global location and altitude. Several processes contribute to carbon dioxide annual cycles: for example, uptake and release of carbon dioxide by terrestrial plants and the oceans, and the transport of carbon dioxide around the globe from source regions (the Northern Hemisphere is a net source of carbon dioxide, the Southern Hemisphere a net sink)”.

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    Graeme4

    Thanks for reinforcing the actual Chinese power usage figures Jo. They obtain 60% of their power from coal and only 9% from wind and 8% from solar.

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    John F. Hultquist

    The amount of wind and solar power under construction in China is …”
    a way of soaking up excess production that keeps workers working, being paid, fed, and not inclined to anti-government thoughts. Sales of components to nations using borrowed money is also helpful to China because investing the money earned on the goodies they make is important to the cycle. Twenty years from now the work can switch to dismantling the wind and solar facilitates, making little pieces from the big pieces and burying the debris. Win – Win.

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    Ross

    LMAO. Maybe I’m a bit slow, because one of my family members used that in a text the other day and I had to look it up. But that’s what the Chinese are doing right now. Except it should be a collective LOAO. Translated -Chinese equivalent of “laughed my arse off” (LMAO) is 笑死我了 (xiào sǐ wǒ le), which literally translates to “laughed so hard I died”. They’re amused by Albanese’s fun fact, to make it even more hilarious. They’re never going to set hard targets, will never meet them. If they did announce confirmation of emissions targets, would you believe them? No way. So, they’re carrying on regardless with their emissions because probably their “scientists” think AGW science is just junk science anyway. All the while dumping cheap solar panels into Australia. Now, due to higher EV targets we will also get a flood of Chinese knock off Teslas. We’re idiots, we Aussies. People are good, leaders are idiots.

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    Australia’s emissions have only reduced by 2.8% since 2005. That’s 20 years of Earth time.

    The latest targets are Pie in the Sky where the Pigs might fly. LOL.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iynZeGtDRvw

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    Honk R Smith

    If only they had had science to control emissions back in the 600s BCE.
    The river near this giant fort wouldn’t have dried up because of Climate Change.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c6akdhrS8fg
    Derawar Fort: The Massive Desert Fortress Few People Know About

    In the heart of Pakistan’s Cholistan Desert stands Derawar Fort, an enormous structure with 40 towering bastions rising from the sand. Nearly 1,000 years old, this majestic fortress is one of the largest and least known in South Asia. Built to guard trade routes and assert power in the desert, Derawar once connected kingdoms and cultures—but today it sits largely forgotten, crumbling under the sun. In this video, we explore the origins, architecture, and mysteries of Derawar Fort, and why this colossal stronghold deserves far more recognition on the world stage.

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    Neville

    Again, we should check out the true cost of Nuclear compared to 7000 billion to 9000 billion for unreliable, toxic W & S.
    Their ABC and CSIRO told us that one of Dutton’s Nuclear stns would cost 8.5 billion $.
    But lets round that out to 10 billion $ and the full cost of 7 stns would’ve been about 70 billion $.
    So toxic, unreliable W & S cost is 100 to 128 times more than 7 Nuclear power stns and Nuclear capacity factor is about 93% and would still be running in 2100.
    And we don’t have to destroy thousands of klms of our environments forever and that energy security translates directly to our national security.
    Does anyone not understand what these loonies are really planning for us?

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      South Korea has built a Nuclear Power Station in the Middle East in 8 and a half years for around 6 billion US dollars.

      Get them here quick smart.

      And a Wind Tower still needs hydrocarbons to lubricate the bearings. Funny that and never explained by the Guv’ment or the stoopid Media.

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        Graeme4

        A bit more. The quoted price for all four units of Barakah varies a lot, but I believe is close to US$30bn. Happy to be corrected. Still much cheaper than what Labor or the CSIRO are saying.

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    David Maddison

    China loves Greens and the LibLabs. China gets to supply the neodymium magnets produced via a toxic mining and extraction process used in our economy-destroying windmills. It’s win-win-win-win for them:

    1) Sell expensive windmills with magnets.
    2) Destroy competing economies.
    3) Utilise Green-Labor-Liberals as Lenin’s useful idiots.
    4) Create jobs in China.

    Of course, the dominant solar panel production is also from China, a whole other story.

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    OldOzzie

    19/9/2025, 9:59:18 am

    Jo Nova has Graphs from Graham Lloyd’s Article – Figures Quite Striking when seen in Graphical Form – Australia Totally Negligble

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    yarpos

    I thonks it a good illustration of both just how dumb Albanese is, and the Dunning Kruger Effect, that he tries to appear superior and knowledgable with his “fun fact” comment, when all it does is how little he undestands the context or numbers in general.

    Followed by the $1000 better off comment , it just goes to show we are governed by buffons.

    If they could just show us one country or region where this has worked you could have a discussion. However at the moment its just like the latest bunch of people that want socialism. Apparently all those places where they tried and failed just didnt do it right.

    About the only way they will reach this target is to torture a spreadsheet the way the ACT does with its 100 renewable nonsense.

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    STJOHNOFGRAFTON

    Here’s another, not so funny, fact: Albanese’s raison d’être is to intentionally wreck the Australian economy. Prove me wrong! List the benefits to the Australian economy as a result of Albanese’s role as Prime Minister.

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    Neville

    Again another fun fact for the Albo loony to think about.
    Australia will need 100 times the 30 Kilowatts we have today and in the future this well have to increase to 3000 kilowatts at a cost of up to 9 TRILLION $.
    So why don’t the MSM and sensible pollies highlight these numbers and give the voters a fright and a real genuine choice in 2028?
    Just read the first few paragraphs at the link.

    https://reneweconomy.com.au/net-zero-study-finds-australia-needs-nearly-three-terawatts-of-wind-and-solar/

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    Lee

    Another “fun fact.”

    Albo is quick to cite what his CCP mates are doing (allegedly) with regard to ruinables, but one thing he never mentions is the hundreds of coalfired and nuclear plants they are building.

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    What appalling ignorance, atmospheric CO2 data from all across the globe shows that at any given instant the CO2 base level is almost the same everywhere. Superimposed on the base level is the seasonal variation which depends on the latitude and geography of the individual recording station. Everyone surely knows that the seasonal variation is due to the annual orbit of the Earth around the Sun so the seasonal temperature/climate variation must be the cause of the CO2 variation. CO2 definitely does not cause the Earth to rotate around the Sun but apparently Albo and Bowen are unaware of this simple fact.
    Please look at the actual data not the rubbish published by the media and sprouted by the majority of politicians.
    The Greenhouse Effect only occurs in man-made greenhouses. There is no such thing as a “Greenhouse Gas”. They are radiative gases that absorb heat at specific band widths and re-radiate that energy at any direction in 3 Dimensional space. Atmospheric gases being above the Earth’s surface statistically must radiate more that 50% of the energy out into space thereby cooling the Earth.
    The Greenhouse Effect was a hypothesis generated in the 19th Century based on limited knowledge. Radioactivity was only discovered by Madam Curie in the late 1890’s. We are now in the 21st Century and have accumulate far more information about the World around us but the population at large appears to be ignorant of this fact due to media propaganda spread by those who wish to rule the World.

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    Neville

    I’ve listened to every lie in the book over the last few days and SLR, deaths from more dangerous fires, cyclones,floods, droughts etc.
    But we know that deaths from severe weather events have fallen by 98% over the last hundred years and Fires and burns death rates have fallen since 1980 and Australia is much lower today.

    https://ourworldindata.org/grapher/fire-death-rates?tab=line&country=OWID_WRL~OWID_LIC~OWID_HIC~OWID_UMC~OWID_LMC~AUS

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    Dennis

    The cost of doing nothing is?

    Nothing.

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    David Maddison

    We wouldn’t be in this mess if the Left hadn’t set out to destroy Tony Abbott.

    Lord Monckton warned about this possibility ten years ago, before it happened.

    Behind the left’s push to remove Tony Abbott

    https://youtu.be/NG0WcjGHkEw

    Could Aussie Prime Minister Tony Abbott be truly the last man standing between the radical left and their plan to have every country in agreement to bring about a new global ruling body? The end-game behind “climate change” (previously “global warming”) is revealed.

    The full video from which the above segment was extracted is at:

    Our Last Year of Freedom?

    https://youtu.be/X0TUYJnhF44

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      Dennis

      The removal of Prime Minister Tony Abbott in 2015 was a narrow margin of Liberal Party MP votes and Prime Minister Turnbull at the 2016 election managed to lose every seat won by the Coalition at the 2013 election led by Tony Abbott.

      Malcolm Turnbull has been a LINO left Liberal from the start so it is not surprising that Christopher Monckton issued his warning.

      In The Bulletin Magazine 2006 journalist Max Walsh wrote about the then new Labor Opposition Leader Kevin Rudd and Deputy Julia Gillard, his included the Unions had in his words carried out a corporate-style takeover of the Australian Labor Party (control) and were replacing sitting Labor MPs in safe electorate seats with union trained executives. He wrote that the primary objective was to control all governments of Australia.

      The founder of the LINO left has been described as having a similar plan including changing the Constitution which he considers to be archaic. That is how Prime Minister Albanese described it not long ago when he wanted to make changes via the Voice Treaty Truth referendum and no details forthcoming when requested.

      The plan of the left associates is a combined alliance forming a governing group with no opposition capable of challenging it.

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    Fritz

    Another fun fact for albo – if Australia eliminated all CO2 emissions, the calculated global temperature reduction would be 0.005 degrees (using the approved IPCC formula). A second fun fact is that in a space of 6 – 12 months China’s increased outputs would totally negate Australia’s entire CO2 elimination. So, in 12 months the world’s environment would be no better off but Australia would be absolutely poorer by having effectively achieved nothing other than virtue signaling.

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    Ken Stewart

    Australia’s emissions reduction target is 62% to 70% of 2005 emissions.

    From OWID:
    2005 CO2 :- 386.18 million Tonnes of CO2
    2023 CO2 :- 382.97 million Tonnes of CO2

    Reduction in the 18 years to 2023:- 3.21 MT or 0.83%

    By 2040 we will have to reduce our emissions by 231.7 million Tonnes of CO2 per year.

    Or per person, from 31.2 T of CO2 equivalent greenhouse gases to 12.5 T per person, from 22T PP in 2023.

    And that’s achievable (apparently).

    But hey, that’s one benefit of high immigration!

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    TdeF

    As for Albanese’s ‘fun fact’, yes, it’s a joke. He knows it has nothing to do with reducing CO2 output. And no one’s laughing.

    China is now responsible for half of all historic CO2 output. So if Climate Change is a problem, they did it. And we still buy their windmills.

    Soon millions of their electric cars for a crippled power supply system which cannot possibly support them.

    And our Prime Minister thinks it’s all a bit of a lark.

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