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Petition the Australian TGA to consider cheap drugs as well as expensive ones!

Please share and sign. Closing tonight!

Some drugs are apparently too cheap to approve.

They want us to trust them, but if they won’t investigate cheap options,  they don’t appear to have our interests at heart. Who do they serve?

Even if a long-used safe cheap drug reduced infections or deaths by 10% the cost-benefits of using it are obvious for everyone (except the companies that sell expensive competing products). The studies we have suggest one antiviral (and there are many others) could reduce infections by 86% and deaths by 50% or more. The antiviral successes against Covid in IndiaMexico and Peru are there for all to see. If antivirals were being used in Sydney perhaps they could have halved the Ro (or more), slowed the spread, saved lives and businesses and shortened the lockdown?

Which brings us to the awkward questions that almost no one seems to be even asking: Why aren’t cheap low risk drugs already well tested ten times over? Why aren’t the TGA and Health Ministry urgently working to fix obvious clinical vitamin deficiencies like D3? Where is the ABC and our publicly funded institutions and our academics? Isn’t the point of publicly funded universities so they can do the research that corporates won’t do?

They want us to trust them, but if they won’t investigate cheap options, it doesn’t exactly sell themselves as groups that have our interests at heart. Vaccine hesitancy might be a lot less if people still trusted our institutions and knew they were considering all the options, not just the ones that happen to suit pharmaceutical stockholders. Just saying….?

Greg Hunt has said your GP can legally prescribe antivirals off label. The more that do, the better for all of us.  Get the information out there. Give us and our doctors some choices.

Vaccines that are leaky and non-sterilizing are selecting for nastier strains of Covid, ones that will only spread because they can escape the immune response. But if people were given antivirals at the same time, we could reduce that risk.

We didn’t treat AIDS with vaccines, we used three antivirals concurrently to stop resistance developing.

h/t Brenda Spence & GeoffS

Click the link to sign.

Petition EN2855 – Alternate treatment options for Covid 19

Millions of Australians are extremely concerned about the federal government’s push to force hastily approved and poorly tested novel vaccines on the population, when adequate long term safety data is unavailable. It is also is of great concern that many notable doctors and medical researchers reporting successful treatment using cheap, safe generic anti viral drugs appear to be ignored by the government and TGA, due to these generic drugs being of little commercial value and not sponsored by pharmaceutical companies for approval by the TGA

We therefore ask the House to formally request that the TGA assess the use of Ivermectine and Hydroxycloriquine, in the recommended dosages and combination with complimentary drugs, based on the peer reviewed studies and data, and the recommendation of notable Australian medical researchers such as Proffesor Thomas Borody and Professor Robert Clancy. We ask that the house requests this of the TGA in the absence of sponsorship by a pharmaceutical corporation, seeing as both of these drugs are generic and of little commercial value to an individual company, and due to the conflict of interest many of these companies have with competing patented vaccines of far higher commercial interest. We believe that if this is performed thoroughly and transparently it will restore public faith in the federal government, and also provide confidence to the public that all options for treatment are being honestly explored.

 

It’s the biggest medical scandal since 1850.

Perhaps solve the other pandemic: Vitamin D deficiency — to help beat Coronavirus?

Posts on Vitamin D and on Antivirals.

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174 comments to Petition the Australian TGA to consider cheap drugs as well as expensive ones!

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    Highly Principled Pedant

    Lets hope that COMPLEMENTARY replaces complimentary in the real petition.

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      Ted O'Brien.

      I doubt the value of going into too much detail or inferring impropriety. They know all that. And don’t wait for The House. Better to just ask them to tell us what they know and the sources of their information.

      So, to our local bloke I’ll write:

      It seems likely that very soon we will have to confront COVID19 head on.

      To get us better equipped to do so, would you please ask the Therapeutic Goods Administration and the Minister for Health to inform us fully without delay:

      1. What information they have on the use of Ivermectin in the treatment of COVID19?
      2. What are the sources of that information,?
      3. What information they have on the use of Budesonide in the treatment of COVID19?
      4. What are the sources of that information? and
      5. What work is being done to improve our treatments for this disease?

      RSVP.

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        Just Thinkin'

        I had heard that The Australian Health Minister had approved
        the Ivermectin Triple Therapy Protocol in August 2020.

        As usual, The Lame Stream Media weren’t interested as it was
        outside their guidelines.

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          I would like to see an over the counter medicine of Ivermectine, Hydroxycloriquine, VitD, Zinc and maybe a few more known safe compounds that have benefits to the immune system and/or show anti-viral capabilities. All of these compounds are already known to be as safe, if not more so, than aspirin. It should be cheap enough that keeping it in your medicine cabinet is a no brainer. The key is to take the doctor out of the loop so treatment can start as early as possible. By the time it gets bad enough to get a doctor involved, simple treatments like this become less effective.

          Start taking this at the first sign of any upper respiratory infection (that first tickle in the back of your throat) and I’ll bet that not only would we see benefits for China virus infections, but also for other flus and perhaps even the common cold.

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            Ha, ha, ha and I do like your Handle…….CO2 is not Evil……………

            No CO2 then No Plants

            No Plants, then no Food (Not too sure about Fish and Whales and Oysters and Sea Life though)

            No Food then No Humans and not much else

            FINIS or close to it

            This whole exercise in using Experimental Shots which only have Emergency Approval and have not been properly Tested reeks. There are plenty of preventative ways of combating this Virus. Oh, and BTW, it is not possible to combat a Virus with a Vaccine. That is why there is no Vaccine for the Common Cold and the Flu Shot is just a yearly guess. I will stick with my proven Immune System which has held me in good stead for 68 years……..QED

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              Just to clarify, there are some vaccines that work against some viruses. You are right about the common cold corona virus, which even natural infection doesn’t provide lasting immunity to. Influenza vax is 20 – 60% efficacious each year, but only provides short term immunity, a pale shadow of real infection. But if you are at risk from a really bad case of the flu it may be wise to get the vax. Once you start getting the flu vax, best to keep getting it as natural protection will be lower without natural infection. It’s a cost benefit guess. Young healthy people at low risk of the flu are better off getting natural protection — just my opinion.

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          Sceptical Sam

          Just Thinkin’ says:

          I had heard that The Australian Health Minister had approved
          the Ivermectin Triple Therapy Protocol in August 2020.

          Was it as clear as that, Just Thinkin’?

          I can’t seem to find a reference with that level of specificity.

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          Dennis

          I read about that, from memory for intravenous use in hospital patients.

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          Destroyer D69

          Ivermectin is to COVID as Kryptonite is to Superman……Thats all you need to know to bring this sorry mess to a screeching halt.

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        DD

        I suggest you put it in terms that the impending conservative voter backlash against left-leaning ‘conservative’ governments is going to make life very difficult for ‘conservative’ candidates in marginal seats. Just a handful of principled conservative voters – ones who realise that you sometimes have to destroy in order to … er … ‘build back better’ – can put them in the wilderness and keep them there until they commit to conservative principles.

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          Dennis

          Yes, but wouldn’t the result be like jumping from the frying pan into the fire … the alternative side is likely to be far worse, incompetent, chaotic and dysfunction as they were 2007-2013 in Canberra, and then consider Victoria and Queensland States.

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        Ted O'Brien.

        I already have a reply this morning. To tell me that I got a reply on the 12th of July. Which I had missed.

        My apologies to anybody I have inconvenienced. And thank you to Andrew Gee’s office.

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      Ian Hill

      It doesn’t but I signed it anyway. Was at 90000+ a few minutes ago.

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    Principled Pedant

    … or do they really mean free-of-charge?

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    Daniel

    Perhaps best not to mention politicized drugs but point out to FLCCC Alliance I-MASK+ and MATH+ protocols.
    Worth mentioning Pfizer and Moderna are promoting the use of their antivirals. Moderna does it by poopooing on its own drug (IVM) with a proven safety record.

    Studies: https://c19early.com
    Protocols https://covid19criticalcare.com/covid-19-protocols/

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      Chris

      Ivermectin was produced by Merck not Moderna. I’l bet that Merck has received a very tidy sum to keep out of the debate.

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        No, they didn’t, declared as an dangerous drug using it against Covid.

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        TIP

        Shortly after “denouncing” their own drug – Merck announced they would be starting to manufacture other companies vaccines in a deal worth nearly $300 million (stage 1).

        I am still trying to “re-find” the article containing the dollar amounts (I read it earlier this week) but there are plenty that mention the manufacturing arrangement.

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          Merck once had the patent on ivermectin. But it ran out in the 1996. So it’s not “their drug” anymore, and them denouncing it is pure dollar talk. It’s a threat to their new patented drugs which generate potentially billions of dollars.

          No one makes much profit off Ivermectin anymore since it’s cheap to make and anyone can make it without paying a royalty.

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            Roger Knights

            Merck’s anti-viral drug, now only months from release, is molnupiravir. The U.S. government has bought some 1.2 million doses at about $800 per dose. Five Inidian subcontractors are rampling up to produce too; one has already applied to the Indian FDA for an EUA.

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    TedM

    Thanks for posting this Jo. I signed it straight away. I don’t have a lot of confidence that a speedy resolution will result though.

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      David-of-Cooyal-in-Oz

      I accidentally tested what happens if you try to sign it twice, as I rushed in to sign it just now, not recognising it immediately as the one I signed some weeks back. It recognised me and told me I’d already signed. That pleased me, as I didn’t want to invalidate the petition.
      May it work.
      Cheers
      Dave B

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        Annie

        I was likewise unsure whether I had already but no info to the contrary.

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        Hasbeen

        My son tried to sign it, but living in my granny flat, using my internet connection he was told he had already signed it. I assume this is because I had some time back.

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    Ross

    Typo in the petition request – ivermectin not ivermectin.

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      Ross

      .. not ivermectine.

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        David Maddison

        The Government, politicians, public serpents, and the scientific and medical establishment have now told so many lies about the non-vaccine treatments that they will find it impossible to get out of the hole they have dug themselves.

        People will get VERY ANGRY when they discover they’ve been lied to and that those lies have cost millions of lives worldwide and have bought about huge pain and suffering.

        Also remember that safe non-vaccine treatments (e.g. HCQ and ivermectin) were being denied consideration even before vaccines were on the market.

        There needs to be a covid Nuremberg trials to trial and punish all those responsible for the deaths so caused.

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          Yonniestone.

          Those trials could only happen when the criminals didn’t have control of Nuremberg, perhaps one day we can have the Canberra trials?

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      Earl

      Proof again that 2 wrongs don’t make it right lol.

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    RickWill

    I get my Vitamin D level assessed each time I have a GP recommended blood test – maybe every 2 to 3 years. I did have a deficiency about 15 years ago but that corrected once I had more free time to spend outdoors.

    With my experience, I thought it would be common practice for people to get Vitamin D level assessed. Apparently not – it is not recommended by MBS. The annual cost for Vitamin D testing rose 34 times in the decade 2003/04 to 2013/14; from $4.2M to $151M. Hence it is not recommended – to expensive:
    https://www1.health.gov.au/internet/main/publishing.nsf/Content/02E10F68DB67D494CA257EB9001E518E/$File/Vitamin%20D%20testing%20Review%20Report.pdf

    There has been a significant increase in the number of claims and benefits paid for MBS item numbers relating to vitamin D testing (increased by 4,600% over the last 10 years). There are concerns that some patient groups may be tested for vitamin D levels unnecessarily and/or more frequently than necessary.

    There were 4.3M tests conducted in year 2012/13. If tests were done every 3 years, it would mean about half the population should know their Vitamin D level.

    Who knows if their Vitamin D level is in the normal range?

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      Serp

      Not everybody shares your confidence in medical technology RickWill.

      I’m of the tribe that disparages quacks and only visits a GP when necessary to obtain a prescription though I am aware there exists a recently assembled cohort of anxious wights, an alternate tribe if you will, that routinely undergo the full body scan now there are machines to do it –one person’s bizarrerie is another’s prudence.

      I’d suppose my vitamin D levels are not alarmingly low as since Jo first wrote about it last year I have been consuming D3 capsules daily.

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      David-of-Cooyal-in-Oz

      G’day Rick and Serp,
      Neither of you give numbers.
      The most significant number is your serum blood level and it seems to me that 60ng/ml (150 nmols/L) is necessary to combat Covid, and I achieved that, and appear to be maintaining that, by taking 10,000 IU per day.
      I’ve had my blood tests done about 6 monthly since May last year, and been on the 10,000 since last September.
      Prior to asking, my doc just said my vitamin D level was Ok which meant my then 20 ng/ml was “satisfactory”. I now think that was dangerously low.
      Cheers
      Dave B

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        Peter C

        Thanks David,

        Do you have any reason to think 150nmol/L is the correct level?

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          David-of-Cooyal-in-Oz

          G’day Peter
          “Correct level” would be too strong a descriptor.
          I’ve been fairly self centred in my looking at ways to follow Dr Zelenko’s advice: “Don’t die. Don’t go into ICU. Don’t go into hospital.” And I’ve decided that a big enough amount of vitamin D, available at the time of exposure, offers a pretty good chance of stopping the virus in its tracks. The next question becomes obvious:”What is enough”. So I’ve come up with the 150 as at least a reasonable target, for me.
          There is some variation in the estimates I’ve seen, ranging from 75nmol/L upwards. I’ve seen 100, 150 and even higher. I’ve not found anything which appears definitive, and I think that’s probably because there’s a dependence on the viral load received at the time of infection, and that in turn would be difficult, maybe impossible, to determine at least so far.
          I started out with 100 as my target, but increased that to 150, partly as I found it was safe, and partly because it was mentioned in a couple of the things I read or saw.

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        Hasbeen

        My doctor told me that my vitamin D was remarkably high, after a recent blood test, but I did not think to ask what the figure was. I will do so at my next visit.

        I don’t take supplements, but being retired I spend a couple of hours a day, in the garden, mostly in just shorts & thongs. Apparently this is sufficient to generate good levels.

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        Philip

        10000 a day is a lot isnt it ? No problems with it reducing the K2 and leaving calcium in your blood instead of in your bones? I think that’s how it works.

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          David-of-Cooyal-in-Oz

          G’day Philip,
          I hesitated in going to that amount initially, but discovered that it’s safe as well as beneficial. As far as I’ve seen it was once considered the maximum safe level, but more recently I’ve read that higher doses are safe and no upper limit has been established.
          Yes, watch those other related things, K2 especially.
          Cheers
          Dave B

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      Peter C

      That Review Report was 2014. So costs of Vit D testing have likely gone up a lot since then as more and more people become aware of the importance of Vit D.
      However Vit D testing is still not emphasized and may be discouraged.

      I have a friend who is on 10,000IU Vit D per day (ten pills/day). I said that seemed like quite a lot, yet she is unconcerned because her alternative therapy doctor prescribed it for depression. She has no idea what her Vit D levels are.

      Of course I like blind faith in the medical profession and there should be more of it, but!

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      Just Thinkin'

      My doctor told me that the minimum level recommended was 49.

      Mine was at 50 which is just above; and I spend a fair
      bit of time outdoors.

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        Analitik

        Yes, this is the level that will safely prevent Ricketts/bone degeneration which is all our guidelines are concerned about

        Australian Therapeutic Guidelines advise that people with serum 25(OH)D concentrations of 50–75 nmol/L are not vitamin D-deficient.

        Vitamin D supplementation is not warranted in this population as there is insufficient evidence that it prevents long-term disease

        https://www.nps.org.au/news/vitamin-d-supplementation

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    Rod

    I’ve signed it but realistically we’re in the endgame and this was NEVER about a virus. We’re NEVER going back to normal because there will always be a new viral “threat” and another fake vax. Even the 1918 Spanish Flu didn’t fully disappear until the late 1950’s.
    So what’s next?
    A major Covid false flag event (USA?)seems highly likely. Global economic meltdown is unavoidable now. A year or 2 at most by all expert accounts. I’ve retired early as I can see the writing on the wall.

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      RickWill

      Global economic meltdown is unavoidable now.

      I did not see that prediction in AR6. Have you got a page reference?

      Loosely a “Code Red” could be interpreted as an economic meltdown but not much is going to melt with a 1.5C above 1850 levels. By all accounts it was cold back then – at least the half dozen or so locations where temperature was being systematically measured. Maximum temperature in Greenwich on 15 Jan 1850 was minus 2.8C – that is chilly. So a few degrees above that might be nice and would not constitute a meltdown!

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        Analitik

        Rod is referring to the economic meltdown that will ensue with the massive levels of debt that governments have taken on and the massive amounts of money printing by the central banks, all to support crippling lockdowns in reaction to the CoViD-19 outbreaks.

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          RickWill

          levels of debt that governments have taken on

          The only consequence of sovereign debt in the sovereign currency is the inflationary impact. Covid has been broadly deflationary – at least through 2020 and early 2021.

          Oil prices went negative at the beginingin of the pandemic last year. It has been a long time since I paid over $1.39/litre for diesel but was getting close before lockdown #6.

          House prices in Australia are showing inflationary pressure but buying is still cheaper than renting in some cases. Food prices have not moved much in Australia unless you like big slabs of premium beef (heard last night that UN are recommending maximum daily intake of 14g of beef). Good wine cheaper in Australia. Seafood prices steady. Energy costs at lower price hikes than pre-Covid.

          Australia’s current account has never been better. USA creates the global currency so its current account does not matter. UK has continued with its long-running current account deficit – could eventually make life tough but they deserve it for their moronic charge to RE (Random Energy).
          https://tradingeconomics.com/australia/current-account
          All those wind turbines lining their coastline were built with Australian iron ore, Australia coking coal and mostly Australian thermal coal. Their stupidity is a boon to Australia. It would not be so stupid if they could get 50 years out of a wind turbine and energy storage was free but their offshore turbines will be rusted hulks in a decade.

          Most Australian Government debt is held by the population in super funds. Before super, the government carried the obligation for retirement. With super, old people fund all or part of their retirement so the government obligation is reduced.

          Also a number of governments have sent their interest rates negative. So their debt is an asset that pays interest. Denmark have had negative interest rates since 2012 and at least one bank offers negative interest mortgages:

          Negative policy rates are controversial and raise questions about their transmission to the economy and financial markets. This column presents emerging evidence from Denmark, where the central bank’s objective of maintaining a fixed exchange rate against the euro means that the key policy rate has been negative almost continuously since 2012. Recent and ongoing analyses suggest that the transmission is working well under negative rates, although pass-through to bank lending rates appears to be slower compared with periods of positive policy rates.

          https://voxeu.org/article/negative-interest-rates-danish-experience

          So once interest rates go negative, deposit holders pay the bank to look after the money.

          A friend said to me that if the bank rates go negative in Australia, he will withdraw all his money. I suggested he would need to be very careful who was watching when he backed his BMW up to the bank and they started stacking large wads of cash into his boot. He would probably need a few trips. He decided he needed to give it more thought.

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            Analitik

            The only consequence of sovereign debt in the sovereign currency is the inflationary impact

            At the moment, the inflation has mainly been in asset prices so the stock market and housing prices have continued to go up despite the deflationary effect of our economies being supressed with all the lockdowns and other restrictions. Once the restrictions end, the inflation will take off in the general economy and at the same time, devaluing of the vast amounts of debt that has been issued. This will cause interest rates to rise making issue any new debt or rolling over existing debt prohibitively expensive further driving up inflation as the costs for servicing get passed on. Deposit holders will find that payments from the interest rates won’t keep up with the inflation rate as they feed on each other.

            The implosion is obvious from this point. Your friend needing a bigger BMW will just be the start of it.

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            Kalm Keith

            Interesting overview.

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            red edwards

            What’s the largest denomination bill in Australia?

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      Just Thinkin'

      Saw something yesterday that showed these thing have been happening ABOUT every 100 years.

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      Philip

      Seems so. New strain, new vax, will be the cycle. Endless injections.

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    VERN

    Only one signature per email address allowed, no matter how many different people want to sign using the same email address.

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    OldOzzie

    Signed and Confirmed

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    Steve of Cornubia

    Signed, but with little confidence this will change anything. I think it’s clear now that ‘the people’ have no power. We’re all existing at the whim of the unholy alliance of politicians, billionaires, Hollywood celebs, the owners of the MSM, the ‘globalists’, leftists, corporates, progressives, environmentalists, the Pope, St. Greta of the Apocalypse, public servants, teachers, university lecturers, etc, etc.

    Western democracy is dead. If you have any evidence to the contrary, I would LOVE to see it.

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      Peter C

      Signed, but with little confidence this will change anything. I think it’s clear now that ‘the people’ have no power.

      Much the same Steve.

      Yet I do believe that we the people do have power. It is very hard to exercise because so few people are engaged on most issues. Hip pocket is the best motivator. Future consequences is much harder.

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        Analitik

        Yeah, on board for what it’s worth.
        I agree that pain in the hip pocket is what will motivate the masses to question the narrative, just as it will be for the rejection of the CAGW and renewables transition frauds,

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    Another Delcon

    Signed and confirmed .
    NOTE : this petition CLOSES at midnight TONIGHT .
    Don’t miss out , this is important !

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    MichaelinBrisbane

    Delighted to see there’s 76,000 signatures already at 6:30 this evening.
    The Government must sponsor these off-patent anti-virals for urgent examination by the slack TGA.

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    nb

    There is merit in a petition, but why would I sign something with an unnecessary and alienating assertion and an egregious spelling error.
    – ‘due to these generic drugs being of little commercial value and not sponsored by pharmaceutical companies for approval by the TGA’
    – ‘Proffesor Thomas Borody’
    I didn’t read any further.
    Credibility is important.

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      Murray Shaw

      Don’t know about nit picking re spelling error, but Thomas Borody certainly has cred when it comes to the use of these anti-virals.

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      Peter C

      Disregarding spelling errors.
      Why is it unnecessary and alienating?

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      mobihci

      if credibility were important, the Au government wouldnt go by the advice of the WHO which has shown many times it does not have the best interests of any country other than China at heart, nor our own TGA. look not at what they say they do but what they actually do. the WHO has made a dogs breakfast of the advice so far, and the TGA decided to ban some of the only viable anti virals in the world that work against covid-19 even when shown by their own universities that it does work and is safe.

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      Flok

      Sad that Gov needs a cattle prod to do something that should be pushed with urgency by the chief health officials.

      This should be proactively done but maybe I am just dreaming.

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    yarpos

    We are in tge moddle of the biggest voluntary (mostly) medical experiment in history. Could there be anymore blind faith than is going around at the moment?

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      Yarpos

      Meant to be responding to 6.3

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      Klem

      “Could there be anymore blind faith than is going around at the moment?”

      There is not as much blind faith as you might think. Doctors and nurses, emergency personel and teachers are all being mandated to get the jab. If there is so much blind faith, why must they be forced?

      But no worries, they all know the easy way to get around these draconian mandates. They’ll lie.

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        yarpos

        when you can easily convince more than half the western world to queue up for an unapproved, poorly tested (by previous standards) no liability, gene therapy labelled as a vaccine, yep I would call that amazing levels of blind faith.

        I agree any level of lying required will be dispensed

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    Mike Jonas

    I have signed. Not that I have much faith in a petition being able to make a government change tack.

    I have written to my (both Lib) federal and state MPs about Ivermectin, and received a surprisingly positive reply from the federal MP. They are in cabinet so hopefully making good noises there. I take Vitamin D3 every day, and zinc, and quite a while ago my GP happily made out a prescription for Budesonide which I keep handy for use if I get virus symptoms.

    I comply with all legislation re movement, masks and tracking (not enthusiastically but the law is the law), and I’ve now had the 2 jabs. I’m not convinced that there’s much more I can do. Even changing ghe government can only work if there’s a better party to change to.

    I was disappointed but not surprised by the ABC report on the Israeli study that showed how effective vitamin D is (surprise surprise there wasn’t an ABC report on the Israeli study that showed how effective vitamin D is).

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    OriginalSteve

    Firestorm of vaccine-created covid cases beginning?

    This was predicted back in April

    To quote your typical Vietnam war movie …

    “Incoming!!!!”

    https://www.timesofisrael.com/health-officials-predict-thousands-of-seriously-ill-covid-patients-within-month/

    “Senior Health Ministry officials and other experts presented Bennett with data forecasting some 4,800 coronavirus patients requiring hospitalization by September 10. The experts expect half of the patients to be seriously ill, putting a major strain on Israel’s health system, according to Hebrew-language media reports on the closed-door meeting.

    “Israel has seen new case numbers skyrocket in recent weeks from a few dozen a day to over 6,000 on Monday. Another 5,755 were diagnosed on Tuesday, the Health Ministry said Wednesday morning, bringing the number of active cases to 38,942.

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    Richard S

    Just signed at 21:45 WA. Now at 96K
    How long was this open?

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      I don’t know. I only found out about it today.

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        GD

        It’s closed now. Why is there such a strict time limit?

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          Richard S

          Did a bit of digging, the petitions are run under Standing Orders specifically.

          205A Rules for e-petitions
          (b) The posted period for an e-petition is to be four weeks from the date of publication on the House website.

          Plenty of time if you can attract peoples attention just glad I got a chance to participate. Thanks Jo.

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        MichaelinBrisbane

        Jo,
        I’d like to second Selwyn H’s suggestion at #36 that you instigate a second petition along the same lines. I feel sure with the range of your blog there could be many more than 96,000 signatures.
        This issue should also be high on the list of Tony Abbot’s proposal for a Royal Commission into our response to this pandemic.

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          MichaelinBrisbane

          Jo posted this blog at around 2:30pm with just 9.5 hours left on the clock for the petition.
          I note Peter C, at #12.1 above, said there were 65,000 votes when he signed, apparently alerted by this posting.
          So that means, by the power of Jo’s blog, one could say 31,000 votes were added in about 9 hours. Imagine if Jo had alerted us at the start of the petition four weeks ago. Do the arithmetic however you like, but I reckon there might have been 10 to 20 times the final count.

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    Clyde Spencer

    https://scitechdaily.com/research-shows-drug-reduces-covid-infection-by-up-to-70-already-fda-approved-for-cholesterol/

    The above link seems to indicate a logical contradiction in the assertion that there is a conspiracy to limit available drugs to only expensive ones.

    What is interesting about COVID is that there appear to be so many things that show some level of efficacy — something like about three dozen drugs at last count! In most cases there seems to be no obvious reason why they should work.

    I’m puzzled over why all the non-physician focus seems to be on just HCQS and Ivermectin when there are so many competitors that have the potential to be as effective, or more so.

    Personally, I’d think it wiser to push to have ALL the potential candidates examined more thoroughly and quickly.

    I do want to thank all the volunteers who are willing to be self-administering guinea pigs. While controlled studies are the Gold Standard, we might still learn things of value from those who subjectively evaluate their response to their uncontrolled experiments, even in the absence of any form of central recording of the presumed results.

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      You are right, that there is a lot of reseach for drugs controling COV-19 and a lot was found and published.
      The real problem seems to be, to make these findings public and bring it in public use.
      There seem to be a lot of difficulties.
      See Ivermectine, HCQ, ACC600 (NAC), Algovir spray, Asthma spray….

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      RickWill

      even in the absence of any form of central recording of the presumed results.

      There are formal recording systems in place. I know for certain that the UK has their “Yellow Card” system for reporting adverse reactions. My son told me after he suffered a bout of shingles immediately after having the Moderna vaccine – both times. GPs are required to report adverse effects.

      This is the latest weekly report:
      https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/coronavirus-covid-19-vaccine-adverse-reactions/coronavirus-vaccine-summary-of-yellow-card-reporting
      The report has considerable detail on the different reactions. It gives this on overall:

      The overall incidence after first or unknown doses was 14.9 per million doses.

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    When more Covid-19 data doesn’t equal more understanding

    Social media users share charts and graphs — often with the same underlying data — to advocate opposing approaches to the pandemic.

    Viral Visualizations: How Coronavirus Skeptics Use Orthodox Data Practices to Promote Unorthodox Science Online

    Controversial understandings of the coronavirus pandemic have turned data visualizations into a battleground. Defying public health officials, coronavirus skeptics on US social media spent much of 2020 creating data visualizations showing that the government’s pandemic response was excessive and that the crisis was over

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    Travis T. Jones

    Always worth a replay … Peter McCullough, MD testifies to Texas Senate HHS Committee – why not treat the patient immediately upon diagnosis instead of sending them home for two weeks untreated, at which point they can then get sick enough to require hospitalisation?

    It is a doctor’s duty to offer all known treatment options to the patient.

    Peter McCullough, MD testifies to Texas Senate HHS Committee

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QAHi3lX3oGM

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    Travis T. Jones

    Egad!

    The CDC actually put together a document to discuss putting high risk people into camps to “shield” low risk people from them.

    No— this is not a joke …

    Interim Operational Considerations for Implementing the Shielding Approach to Prevent COVID-19 Infections in Humanitarian Settings

    https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/global-covid-19/shielding-approach-humanitarian.html

    … and yes, every single person who has made a reference to 1930’s Germany is vindicated.

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    Travis T. Jones

    Doctors say that ‘it could have been worse if he had not been vaxxed’ … he died!

    How could it be worse?

    Fully vaccinated man dies of COVID-19, daughter says he was cautious

    https://thehill.com/changing-america/well-being/prevention-cures/567402-fully-vaccinated-man-dies-of-covid-19-daughter

    Vaccines are not 100 percent effective.

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      clarence.t

      It would be interesting to know if the lung problem came from clotted capillaries.

      But we will, of course, never be told if it was.

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      Analitik

      A woman’s fully vaccinated father died from COVID-19, with her saying she “can’t imagine how much more he would have suffered if he had not gotten the vaccine.”

      This could be taken to say that the vaccine alleviated his pain by causing him to die more quickly. But that would be cynical.

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    Travis T. Jones

    Autumn COVID-19 surge dates in Europe correlated to latitudes, not to temperature-humidity, pointing to vitamin D as contributing factor

    “The results indicate that a low 25(OH)D concentration is a contributing factor to COVID-19 severity, which, combined with previous studies, provides a convincing set of evidence.”

    https://www.nature.com/articles/s41598-021-81419-w

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    Geoffrey Williams

    I signed the petition in time, and now I hope that something comes of it . .
    GeoffW

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    David Maddison

    There is amother reason why non-vaccine treatments shoukd be allowed:

    A recent study by Johns Hopkins researchers found that vaccinated immunocompromised people are 485 times more likely to end up in the hospital or die from Covid-19 compared to the general population that is vaccinated.

    Based on an estimate by the CDC, about 9 million Americans are immunocompromised, either because of diseases they have or medications they take.

    https://edition.cnn.com/2021/08/11/politics/fda-third-dose-covid-19-vaccine/index.html

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      Analitik

      Also, Professor Sir Andrew Pollard, director of the Oxford Vaccine Group, says herd immunity impossible with vaccines since they are leaky

      “Herd immunity is not a possibility” because the Delta variant “still infects vaccinated individuals”.

      https://mobile.twitter.com/Channel4News/status/1425086490002997248

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        Konrad

        Herd immunity is still possible for the unvaccinated. But this requires safely aquiring natural immunity with the help of the therapeutics.

        It remains to be seen if the vaxxed can change their situation. For those that used the mRNA shots, this is a big unknown.

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    Vicki

    Re the reference to sending people home after diagnosis with covid, I’ve always thought it astonishing that no further treatment is prescribed – not even vitamin C.

    The problem, of course, is that no treatment protocol ( eg Ivermectin, fluvoxamine etc) has been approved by the TDA. And we know why – don’t we? Because this would detract from the vax programme.

    It is really difficult to accept that you can be sent home to wait for either a deterioration to the point of hospitalisation or you recover.

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      David Maddison

      Indeed. Upon receiving a positive PCR test result, which more than likely has been done with a cycle count so high that a false positive is obtained, everyone should be give a little kit with Vitamin D, C, Zn, HCQ, IVM etc. according to established protocols.

      In what other medical treatment modality for a potentially serious disease are people just told to go home and do nothing?

      As the people who get the positive test results are more than likely asymptomatic anyway due to the early stage of the disease and low viral load, they are ideal candidates for early interventions.

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      Konrad

      Yes, the lack of outpatient treatment is ridiculous in a supposedly advanced nation like Australia.

      Many other nations have both early outpatient treatment kits and prophylaxis kits for close contacts of those infected.

      Look at Australia’s new infections. Most of them are close contacts of people sent home after testing positive with no outpatient treatment!

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    David Maddison

    The extreme incompetence of the Australian Government when dealing with covid ultimately derives from the World Homicide Organisation.

    As we all know, our Government fanatically follows the decrees of the UN and is one of its biggest most subservient, most sycophantic fans, even when it results in self-destruction such as being faithful believers in the anthropogenic global warming fraud.

    So too when following the advice of a UN agency, WHO, lead by a person who is probably the last one that should be doing so.

    It is instructive to be reminded of the director’s past. This article is from March 2020.

    https://www.foxnews.com/world/who-chief-tedros-questionable-past-coronavirus

    The head of the World Health Organization, in charge of making life or death decisions on a grand scale, has been accused of covering up cholera epidemics, supporting a terrorist organization and inflating his resume to claim he conquered malaria and HIV.

    Tedros Adhanom Ghegreyesus’ campaign to rewrite his questionable past has some wondering whether he is the right fit to lead the global agency through the coronavirus pandemic.

    “Tedros is the second-to-last person who should be heading the world World Health Organization at this time,” foreign affairs expert Gordon Chang told Fox News. “The last person is (Chinese President) Xi Jinping.”

    The Ethiopian official, who was elected to lead the WHO in 2017, has been accused of cozying up to countries like China that have pledged millions of dollars to the agency.

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      Analitik

      Yes, right down to the “go home and call us if you start feeling really bad, then we’ll put you on oxygen, steroids and Remdesivir or a ventilator if that doesn’t work” treatment regime being used by our hospitals.

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      Furiously Curious

      Tedros Adhanom Ghegreyesus is closely tied in with Bill Gates, being chairman of his Global Foundation in 2009, and on the board of Gates’ other major foundation. Gates owns the WHO, giving 27% of it’s funding. Supposedly 80% of it’s funds are from private donors.

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    David Maddison

    The petition closed with a signature count of 96,616.

    Sadly, as mentioned above it contained spelling errors such as “Ivermectine” and “Proffesor”. In fact, professor is spelled differently in the same document. It is not a good look.

    On the positive side, few politicians who bother to read it will be able to spell either and may not notice.

    It should also have contained links to the studies mentioned, or at least a few examples. Politicians and their public serpents won’t bother to do any research to confirm whether what is stated is true or not, and likely would not be capable of doing so or understanding what they find.

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    Furiously Curious

    Chris Martenson mentions that the reason Delta is so infectious, is from a little variation, that has appeared in it’s genome sequence. There is change from PRRA > RRRA, that enables a 30% faster entry into a cell, making defence much more difficult. He said this would be a pretty normal gain of function step, if this were a manufactured virus. He leaves it at that, but this leaves open the thought, that this variant could have been purposely released?
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nVBD_LZIlZ4&t=82s

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      Trevor

      Chris cannot say what he really thinks due to the YT censoring… he has some additional thoughts on his webpage, however you need to be a paid member to get access to those unfiltered thoughts.

      It is still always great to hear his restricted thoughts on YT though!

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      Konrad

      Timing wise, “delta” seems to have stemmed from a mass “vaccination” accident in India, in which a large number of people were being infected and transmitting the virus between their first and second shots.

      India seems to have fought back and won with the use of Ivermectin.

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    Analitik

    So Merkx are applying for provisional (ie emergency fast track) approval for their new anti-vrial, Molnupiravir. It would be interesting to see a 3-way trial by Merkx of this vs their existing Ivermectin as well as a placebo. But of course that will never take place.

    Molnupiravir is considered to have broad-spectrum activity against a range of RNA viruses including SARS-CoV-2, which causes COVID-19. Molnupiravir works by inhibiting replication of SARS-CoV-2.

    https://www.tga.gov.au/media-release/tga-grants-provisional-determination-merck-sharp-dohmes-antiviral-covid-19-treatment-molnupiravir

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      David Maddison

      Better get it into the market while we still have stupid, ignorant and probably corrupt people working at the TGA and FDA etc. who, like Biden, will sign any piece of paper put in front of them and ask no questions.

      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Molnupiravir?wprov=sfla1

      Safety controversy
      In April 2020, a whistleblower complaint by former Head of US Biomedical Advanced Research and Development Authority (BARDA) Rick Bright revealed concerns over providing funding for the further development of molnupiravir due to similar drugs having mutagenic (DNA damaging) properties. A previous company, Pharmasset, that had investigated the drug’s active ingredient had abandoned it. These claims were denied by George Painter, CEO of DRIVE, noting that toxicity studies on molnupiravir had been carried out and data provided to regulators in the US and UK, who permitted safety studies in humans to move forward in the spring of 2020. Also at this time, DRIVE and Ridgeback Biotherapeutics stated they planned future safety studies in animals.

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        Konrad

        While I believe anti-viral triple therapy along with intentional infection is the way forward, I won’t be taking any of the expensive, rushed, new offerings.

        We already have enough therapeutics with decades of safe use to implement rotating triple therapy. We don’t need new drugs.

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          Peter C

          While I believe anti-viral triple therapy along with intentional infection is the way forward,

          What is your recipe Konrad?

          I am going for Vit D, Vit C, Zinc and Ivermectin initially, supplemented by an antibiotic if no improvement after 3 days post infection.

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            Konrad

            Currently I use vit D, Zinc and Quracetin. I don’t have access to Ivermectin currently, but I have an emergency supply of HCQ, but that is only for use in first days if infection occurs. (3 persons 5 days).

            But that HCQ will likely never be needed. My nicotine levels are such that I probably wouldn’t even get a sniffle from Fauci’s Flu. Counter intuative I know. Certainly not something the virtuous crusaders of the Establishment Misleadia would ever report.

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        Analitik

        Ah, so they’re repurposing a failed drug for CoViD, just like Gliead did with Remdesivir.

        At least there is some long term information about its side effects unlike a new drug rushed on to the market (eg the upcoming Pfzermectin)

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    Trevor

    Why isn’t Ivermectin available like Aspirin/Panadol/etc? Given how safe it is, I cannot understand why people need a prescription in order to get it…

    If some people don’t believe it is effective or safe that is their choice. They can get the vaccine and 3 monthly boosters which will be required to keep up the vaccine efficiency (https://www.zerohedge.com/covid-19/wakeup-call-pfizer-vax-only-42-effective-against-infection-july).

    I want to be able to get Ivermectin without having to convince a doctor to prescribe it…

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      sophocles

      You’re not alone there.

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      Yonason

      It’s available in feed stores, for farm animals.

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        David Maddison

        I’ve been checking the dog and cat worming treatments in supermarkets and they’re consistently sold out….

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          David Maddison

          I meant the ones that contain Ivermectin.

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            Yonason

            LOL – yeah, but ya never know if someone’s gonna get it or not.

            I know someone who said he’d be taking. Last time I was at the local farm store there was only one left. Maybe he decided to.

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          Serp

          It seems to be the same at Pet Stock (all sold out) but noting there were two tablets in a box for a cat up to five kilograms which means a person of seventy-five kilograms would be up for fifteen tablets which is getting expensive plus I’m not confident that scaling up a dosage by more than an order of magnitude is sound practice it would be better to get sheep and goat wormer which would only involve doubling the dose, or horse where one would take a fraction of the dose.

          We need to be rid of the tyrants that have brought us to the contemplation of such preposterous antics.

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          another ian

          Maybe your “feelings are that you’ve become a horse owner”?

          Seems horse worming paste has become a popular item in US – apple flavour seems to get the nod in mentions I’ve seen

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        Analitik

        This is the one that appears the most suitable in that it doesn’t contain other active ingredients
        All the horse suppliers sell it.

        http://www.abbeylabs.com.au/horse/easymec-in-feed/product-detail.aspx

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      Ross

      Big yes here. In reality we need to have COVID treatment back in the hands of the people and so it must be convenient and cheap. This is one of the ways to prevent overload of hospitals- its a no brainer. Treat early after initial test or onset of problems to reduce viral replication. Its basic science and medical practice. Sure, lets have some safe, efficacious vaccines but this will never be the sole solution to community public infection. Even pre COVID you would stumble off to the GP to get antibiotics for a virus infection. GP knew they worked vs virus infection even though they might say its for secondary bacterial infection. It was the medical profession’s dirty little secret. Why cant they do the same for IVM?

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      Lucky

      Ivermectin:
      Repeat note: (thanks to original poster)

      Parasite control –
      Take with water on empty stomach to retain Ivermectin in the Gastro-intestinal tract

      Infection control/prophylaxis –
      Take with food (incl. fat) to carry it into the bloodstream.
      Dose- 0.2mg per one kg of body weight

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    Yonason

    I recently saw a video segment of your health minister (?) in which she said “we have to work together,” which she immediately followed up by describing how you mustn’t get close or talk to or interact with each other in any way.

    Did Kafka write her speech?

    They are all insane.

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      Ross

      We have multiple health ministers and Chief Medical Officers (CMO’s) because of both federal and state responsibilities for COVID. They seem to take it in turn to make the dumbest statements. They all want to be some form of media rockstars and not just stick to the basics. It’s a process I would hope we would not ever happen again.

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    T,ANDREWS

    The media run a dishonest fear campaign and suppress the truth regarding alternate treatments. The governments use secret polling of a misinformed and frightened public to shape the policy response, perpetuating the fear and ignorance. Science has nothing to do with it.

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    Yonason

    It’s happening again. Two of my posts have disappeared.

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    Selwyn H

    Why haven’t we seen this petition before if it has been out there for 4 weeks. I missed Jo’s website yesterday and was unable to sign today but reading several climate and medical blogs most days I have never seen this petition referred to so it must have been kept very quiet. Jo says she only saw it yesterday so the petitioner obviously doesn’t follow blogs like this one.

    For those who want to get Professor Borody’s ivermectin, doxycycline and zinc protocol, Ziverdo kits are available online from many Indian pharmaceutical suppliers and I acquired 12 of them for $85 including postage when it became obvious that our health departments were controlled by “Big Pharma” and were trying to shut down this treatment.

    Is it not possible Jo for you to also present a petition along similar lines. I’m sure with your readership and the publicity generated you would get far more signatures than the 96,616 this one got. This would hopefully push our political class into forcing our health experts to examine the now overwhelming evidence that ivermectin treatment works.

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      MichaelinBrisbane

      I’d like to second this suggestion that a second petition along the same lines is instigated. I feel sure with the range of this blog there could be many more than 96,000 signatures.
      This issue should also be high on the list of Tony Abbot’s proposal for a Royal Commission into our response to this pandemic.
      (Ref also #18.1.2)

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      RickWill

      Very clear that only medical specialists can prescribe HCQ in Queensland. Dispensing direction was issued on 7th April last year.

      I believe that there were concerns of shortages at that time but Clive Palmer acquired and donated 32M doses.

      That means a GP could not prescribe it unless it was part of a formal clinical trial. You will not see those permitted to prescribe it unless you are in the hospital system.

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      another ian

      Did you notice anything on IVM?

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    PeterW

    The WHO just started with trials with three existing drugs in the hope to find a cure for COVID: artesunate, imatinib and infliximab.
    https://www.who.int/news/item/11-08-2021-who-s-solidarity-clinical-trial-enters-a-new-phase-with-three-new-candidate-drugs

    Nice. But imho it is one-and-a-half years too late.

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      another ian

      Anyone heard those names before? Any track record that they might work?

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      David Maddison

      So why are HCQ and IVM being ignored?

      The reason is that they’re terrified that an honest trial will demonstrate they work and then a lot of VERY ANGRY people will want to know why the World Homicide Organisation and sycophantic UN worshipping governments like Australia’s murdered so many people via denial of these drugs.

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        Destroyer D69

        “They” have dug themselves into such a deep hole that the only way out that they can see ,in order to “save face” is to keep digging with a succession of larger shovels.OR , there is another completely different agenda in play?

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        Kalm Keith

        Strong words , and looking like a situation that a lot of people might be involved with.

        No doubt there would be many with the personal experience of horrible aftereffects of “The Jab”; two of my acquaintances suffered terrifying cold _ rigor for half a day and one had lingering problems for ten days. Don’t think that these would have been reported.

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      David Maddison

      Artesunate is an anti-malarial drug.

      Imatinib is an anti-cancer drug.

      Infliximab is for treating autoimmune diseases.

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    george1st:)

    Prevention is better than cure .
    But curing pays much better .
    Signed Big Pharma .
    Government health authorities ? ” what is that supposed to mean ? “

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    Anne-Kit

    Check out this Australian video – at 14.24 he goes into what happened with the use of Ivermectin in India. Very, very interesting.

    https://www.bitchute.com/video/WChWxp2TiVLd/?fbclid=IwAR2VDtZe6BQPR54z67H9xNyUkts6APRzfm-5b3v-9rl6CPmRQ7joNKstXLo

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    Konrad

    At the beginning of this whole fiasco, I just believed our government was incompetent.

    They didn’t need the warnings from Taiwan in December 2019. They trusted the WHO. They ignored the polybasic cleavage sites in the RNA sequence. They ignored the Wuhan researcher’s paper in Nature from years before. They refused to heed warnings that SARS-1 temperature testing wouldn’t work this time. They couldn’t work out the gastrointestinal vector even after the Hong Kong tower sewage transmission. They were weeks late shutting the border. They let students from the hot zone into the country, despite them being the perfect asymptomatic carriers. On and on it went …

    I could see that when a lab accident had handed China a truck load of lemons, they tried to make lemonade, exporting the virus to their rivals while locking down internal travel.

    But mid 2020 was when I had to accept the ghastly truth. Many of the governments of the so-called free world were in turn trying to make their own lemonade, to the detriment of their own citizens. This was the time where two papers trashing therapeutics passed peer review and were published in prominent journals. A global outcry from doctors in the developing world led to the exposure of the fraudulent data used, and the journals had to demanded retraction.

    But in “The West” our governments acted as if nothing had happened. The WHO stood by their cancellation of therapeutics trials, and the TGA (Australia), NHS (UK) and CDC and NIH (US) continued to cite and publish as fact the “findings” of these fraudulent papers as if retraction had never occurred. I was stunned. How many unnecessary deaths would be acceptable to further the financial interests of Big Pharma.

    But then it clicked. It wasn’t about the petty financial interests of Big Pharmaceutical. This was the ruling class getting fed up with democracy. Big time. (And their lickspittle stenographers in the Establishment Misleadia played along, keening and whining for Big Club associative membership).

    Look around at the governments oozing their way to vaccine passports. Yes, Australia is one of the guilty. Notice what they are not offering: convalesent passports. This despite natural immunity from prior exposure to the Fauci Flu being 6 times stronger than any of the “vaccines” on offer and far longer lasting.

    Note also: for governments claiming to want higher public immunity, they don’t act like it. There is no testing for natural immunity before jabbing in any of our nations, despite the jab being known to erase natural immunity and cause significantly higher adverse reactions in those with prior exposure to Fauci’s Flu.

    They want those “vaccine passports” sooooo badly. They are drooling and slavering for them. An endless health emergency where big government controls all testing and provides all “booster shots” to compliant fearful sheeple. (That is why you are not allowed those use-at-home paper antigen tests, you worthless peasants! And don’t ask for cheap Ivermectin either, or the lockdowns and beatings will intensify!).

    An Orwellian nightmare you might think.

    Well, they certainly planned on non-sterilizing Quackzines accelerating viral evolution and the need for endless booster shots / passport updates. That was guaranteed by science 7 decades old. What they didn’t plan on was the Establishment Misleadia failing to crush “vaccine hesitancy” nor the true risk of ADE.

    They didn’t get enough quackzinated before the ADE issue hit. Nowhere near enough.

    Now normally ADE affects the “vaccinated” when they get exposed to new strains. But there’s a twist this time. Jab someone with prior exposure and their risk of adverse reaction goes through the roof.

    But the “vaccine passport” plan requires ever decreasing age groups to get jabbed. Every “citizen” needs their passport. They’re jabbing 12 year olds in the US. But which group is most likely to have had an asymptomatic infection without noticing anything? That’s right, the young.

    The candle is now burning at both ends. The “fully vaccinated” are at most risk from the new strains they themselves are incubating, and the more young people jabbed, the more frequently adverse reactions will occur.

    The Neo-Orwellian betrayers of western democracy are now hoist by their own petard. The intelligence bell curve? The “snake swallowing a pig”? It’s the thin end both sides of that dissolving lump of pork that are “vaccine hesitant”. On one side we have your Bluegrass and tinfoil millinary enthusiasts, worried about “microchips” (that you could kill with a quick EMP). And on the thin end on the other side of “trotters and all” you have the folks who know exactly why the SARS-1 vaccine was aborted and why SARS-1 natural immunity has lasted 18 years and counting. Same sort of folks that know adding radiative gases to our radiatively cooled atmosphere will never reduce its radiative cooling ability.

    Now I have on occasion enjoyed Bluegrass music, and frequently play the fool. But I never play “Midwit”. Well, those parasites tired of the hassle of answering to their host, decided to lop off the annoying thin ends of the snake. Unfortunately, as parasites, they were a bit dependant on the middle bit. (The Midwits who took the shots).

    Now they are left with the thrashy end with no impulse control and the heat seeking bitey venomous end. This is not Orwellian, allow me to coin “Schadenfreudeian”.

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    David Maddison

    Of anything is to become compulsory, or “vaccine passports” are to be issued, why can’t people be given a choice between “vaccination” and IVM or other prophylaxis (according to established protocols)?

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    another ian

    “Dr. Robert Malone Explains mRNA Vaccines and The Noble Lie Used by The Medical Establishment to Manipulate Vaccine Propaganda
    August 12, 2021 | Sundance | 36 Comments”

    https://theconservativetreehouse.com/blog/2021/08/12/dr-robert-malone-explains-mrna-vaccines-and-the-noble-lie-used-by-the-medical-establishment-to-manipulate-vaccine-propaganda/

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    Environment Sceptic

    Cheap and expensive drugs funded by big finance.

    …what a potpourri..

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    CHRIS

    I’m getting giddy at all the goalpost movements made by the Federal and State governments. The rules change almost on a daily basis…no wonder people are confused. As for NSW, the Health Department is a total joke (WRT management, not the hard working front-line people).

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    Analitik

    A German pathologist who performed 40 autopsies on people dying shortly after being vaccinated is convinced that 30-40% (12-16/40) of the deaths were caused by the vaccine.

    Schirmacher warns that 30 percent to 40 percent of those people would have died from “rare, severe side effects of the vaccination—such as cerebral vein thrombosis or autoimmune diseases,”

    He believes that a basic problem is that vaccinated people often do not even die under clinical observation, and he calls for more autopsies of these patients

    This is a pathologist who has himself been vaccinated against CoViD and has performed numerous autopsies on CoViD deaths to help develop better treatment regimes.
    https://trialsitenews.com/in-germany-some-groups-suspect-covid-19-vaccination-deaths-are-undercounted-but-not-the-majority/
    https://thebl.com/world-news/a-high-percentage-of-deaths-reportedly-caused-by-covid-19-vaccine-warns-german-pathologist.html

    Have ANY autopsies for deaths in these circumstances been performed in Australia, yet?
    There was talk about an autopsy for Genene Norris who died after receiving the AstraZenica vaccine back in April but no news of this since.
    https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-04-17/autopsy-may-reveal-more-about-clotting-death-astrazeneca/100076254

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    Vicki

    Interesting to note the progress of Big Pharma’s new anti-virals eg the acknowledgement of Mercks new drug by TGA.

    I, for one, would like the comfort of having anti-viral on hand in event of infection, although I have been implementing the prophylactic regime of Vits C,D, zinc & bioflavonoids Plus healthy diet for 18 months.

    Would prefer, of course, Ivermectin, safe & effective in early stages. But no regular GP will prescribe . As a farmer I have access to cattle pour-on Ivermectin drench but have noted the scare mongerers claim that is is dangerously concentrated for humans, even though it can be scaled down according to weight. Who knows?

    Not keen on procuring IVM from India by post. It is infuriating that the medical profession has been scared off prescribing a drug that was once routinely prescribed for prosaic complaints like scabies & head lice!

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    CHRIS

    You have a good point, Vicki.

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