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Politically correct spies? CIA withheld China Intel because they didn’t want to help Trump

If China was trying to influence the US elections, the US Intelligence chose to help China rather than the sitting US President.

Symbol China Map.Remember the Intelligence Report on Foreign Interference on the US election that was due on December 18th? It was part of Executive Order 13848 and due within 45 days of the US election, but it was only delivered on Thursday to Congress, whereupon it vanished entirely under the PR weight of the Congressional Storm. So it was too late to be useful.

Apparently there is already an Ombudsman Report on it, by Barry Zulauf, who laments  “the polarized atmosphere [which] has threatened to undermine the foundations of our Republic, penetrating even into the Intelligence Community.”

The President wanted a report on foreign interference. The Director of the National Intelligence (DNI) wanted a report, and the people of America wanted it, but that still it wasn’t enough to overcome the bureaucratic inertia and resistance.

US Intelligence Report on China withheld because of excuses:

Intelligence analysts downplayed Chinese election influence to avoid supporting Trump policies, inspector finds

Jerry Dunleavy, Washington Examiner:

“Given analytic differences in the way Russia and China analysts examined their targets, China analysts appeared hesitant to assess Chinese actions as undue influence or interference. The analysts appeared reluctant to have their analysis on China brought forward because they tend to disagree with the administration’s policies, saying in effect, I don’t want our intelligence used to support those policies,” Zulauf concluded, saying this behavior violated analytic standards requiring independence from political considerations.

US Flag, Flying.The Director of National Intelligence, — Daniel Radcliffe — who oversees all the agencies felt that China posed a significant threat but the Intelligence Community (IC) wouldn’t say so.The ombusdman agrees with Radcliffe:

 The ombudsman report, Ratcliffe added, “includes concerning revelations about the politicization of China election influence reporting and of undue pressure being brought to bear on analysts who offered an alternative view based on the intelligence.”

A senior intelligence official told the Washington Examiner that “inside the IC, we’re going to have to wrestle with the issues outlined in this report and the revelation that our own internal umpire basically said Ratcliffe was right and some of our career people, even CIA management, were politicizing China intelligence.”

Whatever is in that report, Trump could have used it to make “misleading campaigns.”

A source familiar with the process of creating the 2020 assessment told the Washington Examiner that one reason for the delay in submitting the assessment to Congress, in addition to the internal debate, was a desire to get past Wednesday to ensure the report was not exploited for political reasons during the debate over the Electoral College votes counted by Congress. The source cited concerns about how politicians, such as outspoken Trump critics like House Intelligence Committee Chairman Adam Schiff, might exploit the report, but also sought to avoid allowing conspiracy theorists such as Trump-allied lawyers Sidney Powell and Lin Wood to make misleading claims about it that would make their way to Trump for him to latch on to as he refused to concede.

So the report would have been useful to Sidney Powell?

If only they’d had a dictionary of CIA words:

Zulauf said that “due to varying collection and insight into hostile state actors’ leadership intentions on domestic influence campaigns, the definitional use of the terms ‘influence’ and ‘interference’ and associated confidence levels are applied differently by the China and Russia analytic communities.” He pointed out that Russia analysts could rely on a formal definition document, but “there is no parallel document for China,” and so, “the terms were applied inconsistently across the analytic community.”

“The analytic ombudsman says Ratcliffe wasn’t being political — he was being honest that China intelligence was being suppressed for political reasons,” the senior intelligence official contended to the Washington Examiner.

Is there any rescuing an organization like this?

Trump is not just battling the Democrats but also the CCP, the CIA and FBI.

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    Peter C

    Except that we haven’t seen the Ratcliffe report yet, nor the other Intelligence asessessment that was delivered to Congress on Thursday!

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      Rob JM

      Reportedly the ratcliffe report was handed to congress just after they signed off. It showed fraud with China and that’s why they are panicking. Everything is going according to the Q plan (military intelligence)
      Check mate.

      Sit back and watch the downfall of the cabal.

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        Serp

        As early as this weekend it is being said. How will we know the roundup has begun? The MSM won’t be airing stories about the facilitators of the baseless fraud being shipped to Gitmo.

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    Murray Shaw

    The concerning words here were that “ the polarisation and politicisation within the IC reaches right to the top”
    The report was slow marched so as not to help the President, the person responsible for making the most serious decisions as to US Security was kept in the dark for domestic political reasons.
    This clearly demonstrates “The Swamp” that Donald Trump raged about for four years, and it’s eminent danger to the ultimate security of the US and its allies.
    Words fail me as to the reprehensibility of these actions, and raises the question what other intel is being withheld.
    These actions destroys any trust that the American People should have in their countrys intelligence services.
    Hopefully time is not past for Draining the swamp.

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    RossP

    “Trump is not just battling the Democrats but also the CCP, the CIA and FBI.”

    This was confirmed by the lady who has blown open the Italian connection (and now has a affidavit from the guy who worked for Leonardo).
    The video of the interview has now been removed from YouTube.

    But she referred in the interview, to CIA involvement as well as other “three letter agencies”.

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    Zigmaster

    Whilst all this activity against Trump is interpreted as some sort of Trump Derangement Sympton it would be naive to assume that even within the CIA there are not traitors who have been bought by the Chinese. It appears to me likely that if they’ve had the people inside to influence the outcome of the election they will have had people who have sided with the Chinese due to financial influence or blackmail. Infiltration of so many of our institutions by the left has been done to carry out the leftist global agenda the CIA is just another vulnerable institution. The Chinese have been the major beneficiary of this push and it would not surprise to find Chinese tentacles all over the CIA.Whatever the truth is there are now a lot of people working hard to make sure it never gets out. Whoever they are and for whatever reason we may never know what the truth is.

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      “Whatever the truth is there are now a lot of people working hard to make sure it never gets out.”

      The political left and their comrades in the MSM have successfully managed to suppress the truth about climate science, Trump’s successes, Biden’s family business, their blatant hypocrisy, election fraud and so much more, suppressing this or anything else is just business as usual. Lying, cheating and stealing is the only way the left can get buy in to their absolutely horrible policies.

      With Biden at the helm, the CCP will be in full control and America, if it survives, will never be the same.

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        sophocles

        America’s NATO allies are also in it. I would estimate that the `Great Leap’ — the one which carries us all back into the darkness — “has to happen” and Trump is seen as an enemy of it.

        Look for his opposition in the UN.

        We need him, at the moment more than we know.

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          sophocles

          for those who can’t figure it out: they should interpret “The Great Leap” as, of course, the Great Reset — when we lose all our property and “feel better for it.”

          Slavery never “feels good.” Just ask slaves …

          So I prefer to call it, in a backward sort of way, the Great Leap Backwards.

          That’s why D J Trump is an endangered species. It’s not just in America nor China

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            Serp

            Olden and still golden is the legendary leap by Empedocles into an active crater on Mt Etna to show the doubters that he really was a god.

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      Murray Shaw

      Yes Ziggy, money will buy anything. It is like the man asking the beautiful woman he she would sleep with him for a million dollars, she nod her acceptance, he then says what about for $200, the woman takes umbrage at that offer, asking what do you think I am, he replies we have established what you are, we are now negotiating the price.
      The Chinese seem to have ample funds to but what they want around the globe, then once hooked their targets are held to ransom. See the treatment that Australia is receiving over trade matters, once we became seemingly dependent on them.
      Surely they have several operatives within most intel organisations in all Western Nations

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    Peter C

    Trump is not just battling the Democrats but also the CCP, the CIA and FBI.

    And the DOJ, and most of the Republican Party and almost all of the public service (eg tax office, EPA etc) and half of the White House and possibly a large part of the armed forces.
    How did it come to this?

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      robert rosicka

      None of this would have been possible without a complicit press .

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        Orson

        Winston Smith is their leading scribe. Or at least so says publicist George Orwell.

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        Hanrahan

        “Complicit” is too mild a word.

        From where I sit it is impossible to know who is pulling who’s strings but the MSM think they are in the centre of power, or on their god’s right hand at least. They are too dumb to realise they are merely useful idiots.

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        Great Aunt Janet

        And Twitter has just completely deplatformed the President now. I have deplatformed Twitter from my appliances, and The Aus has also joined my budget-cutting list so that I can save my subs money to spend on more reliable things.

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      Ian

      He iis also battling the Republicans who are currently expressing their disgust at their erstwhile leader. [No evidence and a tremendous smear. Par for your course …]ED

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        Serp

        I don’t see why ED cannot post through a persona as the rest of us do, particularly the gratuitous ad hom. Ian is unexceptional in posting without evidence and is free to make assertions without being hammered by a person whose work ought to be unobtrusive but has instead, as it were, burst out of the wainscoting brandishing an iron jemmy.

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    yarpos

    “….I don’t want our intelligence used to support those policies”

    thereby demonstrating one of the key problems, “our intelligence” , I wonder who they work for?

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    robert rosicka

    FBI withheld Hunter Biden’s laptop for over a year .

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    Rick

    Having watched Trump since day 1 of his Presidency, I felt like I was watching a slow motion train wreck. He foolishly decided not to prosecute Hillary Clinton for her crimes – he can’t expect the same from Harris or Biden. He also completely failed to root out the sleeping spies within his own administration and within the White House and DOJ organs like the NSA, FBI and CIA.
    Reports like the one discussed here should have been requested years ago and used to ruthlessly “clean house.”
    Trump’s failure in this and the failure of conservatives to force a proper investigation into the election fraud and crimes has left America – and the world – at the mercy of Marxist thugs like Kamala Harris and Adam Schiff to name just two.

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      Great Aunt Janet

      President Trump just wasn’t the dictator they predicted he would be. Don’t worry, I’m sure Biden/Harris will make up for his misplaced trust in the people supposedly running the country alongside him.

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      Cynic of A

      Mate, he cannot do it on his own!
      Who was going to prosecute Clinton? Trump cannot prosecute. He can suggest that the FBI prosecute her, but what if they refuse, as they did?
      You can’t prosecute the DOJ, if the DOJ refuses to obey your orders.
      You can’t prosecute the FBI, if the FBI refuses to obey your orders.
      You can’t prosecute the CIA, if the CIA refuses to obey your orders.
      You cannot go after any of them, if they all refuse to co-operate!
      What must it feel like, when Mattis, Barr and others, who one would expect to be Republican are really Democrats?
      How can you prosecute anyone, when the Supreme Court refuses to hear your case?

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      Lucky

      Your post on day 1 is where?

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    John Robertson

    When does the other shoe drop?
    The stage is fully set.
    All the enemies within,have wrapped themselves in the flag and wiped their butts with the constitution.
    The darkness looms over the productive and righteous..
    great stage management.
    Now we ,the audience, are primed for the next act.

    Should it fail to please the audience,will the audience go olde school on the actors?

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      William Astley

      The first act in 2020 has hard to watch.

      ‘Democratic’ party of America and China, sudden control all US media companies, and there are strange organized riots in the US. The ‘Democratic’ party of America has taken over the FBI/CIA and used the FBI to intimidate and threaten 2020 US election whistle-blowers. Hiding the massive amount of hard evidence that the Democratic party of America organized and implemented, felony US 2020 election activities involving both the CIA and the FBI.

      While Dems are having their fun in the US, China is currently implementing a sophisticate plan to take over the world and to do evil things like design and release different version of covid for commercial and state tactical reasons.

      And while this is all happening, the US and world media and the Dems are attacking Trump 24/7. If the truth had been told at anytime the Democratic party would have been finished.

      And the Dems threatened the US Supreme court. The US Supreme court would not look at the piles and piles of 2020 US election felony evidence. That is pathetic. Laws are just words of everyone is afraid or controlled by the evil Democratic Party.

      And the next act is almost a miracle, in that all of the Washington problems are solved in one day, with only interesting made for television type drama.

      The US Milt have a Washington replacement system that is basically perfect.

      In the end, we did not want or need elite stinking corrupt, Democratic politicians that were going to help China take over the US and the world, while they line their pockets and have their fun in Washington.

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      sophocles

      No.

      Maybe …

      I don’t know.

      Wait until Jan 20. We’ll know in 11 days.

      What I do know, everyone on this blog is too small minded.

      It’s International … I’ll let you guess why. Just keep the “Great Leap” backwards in mind.

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      Lawrie

      Who would do the arresting? Law enforcement have left him alone. Trump probably has a better chance by retreating to his Florida hide-away, resting up and then gathering the resources needed to destroy the Democrats. He has 75 million loyal followers, he knows now who he can trust and who he cannot. The State legislatures come back into session next week and hopefully will get the audits they wanted weeks ago. Pulitzer can weave his magic and hopefully the 400 ex investigators Jo spoke about some posts ago will continue to pursue the truth.

      The Democrats are hell bent on cutting the head off the snake (Trump) because they know he is extremely dangerous and will eventually expose the lies and fraud. There are a lot of RINOs enjoying their last terms if Trump continues on. The MSM and big tech have probably shot themselves in the foot as people turn to bloggers like Jo here and alternative news such as Newsmax, Epoch Times/NTD and platforms like Parler and Gab. The MSM and Big tech are no longer in control and their actions in the past few days will hasten their demise.

      As John Paul Jones (1779)(father of the US Navy) said “we have not yet begun to fight”.

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        Tilba Tilba

        Who would do the arresting? Law enforcement have left him alone. Trump probably has a better chance by retreating to his Florida hide-away, resting up and then gathering the resources needed to destroy the Democrats. He has 75 million loyal followers, he knows now who he can trust and who he cannot.

        Yes … that was my immediate first thought as well. Who would do the arresting? Who would follow such orders, and under what authority?

        Donald Trump’s institutional support has never been very solid, has been declining since the election was called – and it’s a fair bet to say that he lost most of his remaining political capital after the riot on 6 January.

        I expect Congress and/or VP Mike Pence would nail Trump if he tries anything extravagant. The impeachment proceedings may happen as early as Monday.

        And it could be fake news … Lin Wood is the same lawyer who said Jeffrey Epstein would make a live appearance on 6 January and name names.

        Having 75 million votes doesn’t necessarily translate into active, loyal followers, and even so, what could they do? I guess another MAGA March on or before 20 January would seem possible – maybe likely – even with the social media bans on Trump.

        Michael Flynn has said that Donald Trump is still 100% going to be inaugurated again on 20 January. He has also been banned by Twitter.

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        Dave in the States

        Trump had more than 75 million votes when we take into account the probable number of switched votes and we know that many ballots with Trump filled in got binned. (See the Epoch Times doc). And there is no way, in my opinion, that Biden got any way near 80 mil legitimate votes. They are a minority trying to control a massive and now very angry majority. The Trump supporters are a revisionist nation now. They are not going to forgive and forget. No wonder Bernie Sanders was on MSM today worried about how they can possibly reeducate all the deplorables.

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          Tilba Tilba

          No wonder Bernie Sanders was on MSM today worried about how they can possibly reeducate all the deplorables.

          LOL … Bernie Sanders could easily play the role of the mad professor, in a white coat up the front of a classroom, manically scribbling on a blackboard!

          Yes – it will be interesting to see whether “Trumpism” survives the demise of Donald Trump himself. Personally I can’t see it going away any time soon.

          Joe Biden has a lot to do to turn down the temperature – but that might be mission impossible if a fair slice of the population believes the election was widespread dodgy. It will be dramatic to watch I expect!

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            Dave in the States

            Nobody I have talked to believes the election was above board. Everybody I see knows the election was a fraud. People are not ameliorating their views either. They are becoming more angry at the media’s dismissal of the very idea that we now have an illegitimate government.

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        Tilba Tilba

        Yeah well … the very excited writer failed tp predict the storming of the Capitol, and Donald Trump’s “concession” speech.

        Anyway – I doubt that Donald Trump could even get anyone from the military to stand on a stage with him during the last ten days, let alone run around arresting political enemies and trying them in military tribunals.

        Some of these people write good fiction!

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    WokeBuster

    Democracy is officially dead in the US. We are now entering a post-democracy era. There is no way the oligarchs will voluntarily give up power. Instead they will strengthen that power and suppress all opposition and elections will now be rigged permanently. This will be government by oligarchs for oligarchs.

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      Orson

      EXACTLY, WokeBuster. Except if prefer an edgier moniker like WokeDestroyer or at least WokePugilist.

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        Curious George

        Meanings of words change. “Marriage” is not what it used to be. “Free speech” is not what it used to be. “Democracy” means what Democrats want.

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      Hanrahan

      What I don’t understand is why Australia is cheering, and doing so while China is being so belligerent.

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        Custer Van Cleef

        One thing that can’t be denied about Trump is that he stood up to China.

        Was that the biggest factor driving the opposition to him from powerful oligarchs and fellow politicians?
        Who will carry on his fight?

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        Lawrie

        The Australians who are cheering are invariably poorly informed, incapable of individual thought and otherwise useless. They are the sort of people who vote for the ALP and Greens and who love the idea that those with a few bob should give at least half to them. They are socialists who have never studied socialism and not knowing their history are doomed to repeat it. IOW they are fools.

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      OldOzzie

      To Heal, We Must First Acknowledge Plummeting Public Trust Is Reasonable

      Everyone has lied to us.

      “My sister was 35 and served 14 years — to me that’s the majority of your conscious adult life. If you feel like you gave the majority of your life to your country and you’re not being listened to, that is a hard pill to swallow. That’s why she was upset,” said Roger Witthoeft, the brother of Ashli Babbitt, in an interview with The New York Times.

      As the curtain closes on Trump’s presidency, the political class faces the reality that a wide swath of decent, everyday Americans now trust fringe voices. The crucial first step towards a solution is acknowledging people have indeed been lied to, and their lack of trust is a reasonable response to bipartisan institutional failure.

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        OldOzzie

        Greg Gutfeld Says Trump Supporters Are ‘Justified’ Because You Can’t Trust Elections, Sparking Chaos on The Five

        Fox News host Greg Gutfeld said President Donald Trump’s supporters are “justified” in their distrust for the media and elections during a segment on the violent attack on the United States Capitol.

        “I don’t understand why calling for an audit that [Ted] Cruz and Trump wanted is a call for insurrection. It was a preventative. Because I’ve said this a thousand times, that when you remove dialogue, or conversation, or just going back and forth from the process, all you end end up with is violence,” Gutfeld said.

        “And you have people who feel like there is no hope. I think what we’re seeing here is a lot of people with no hope,” Gutfeld continued. “There is no way to turn this back. You have millions of people who do not trust their institutions, and you know what? They are justified. You can’t trust the media, because they lie to you. You can’t trust the elections, because there is fraud!”

        “We don’t know how much, because every time someone brings it up, they are dismissed as conspiratorial rubes,” Gutfeld concluded. “We have to change, because it’s going to get worse before it gets better.”

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    OldOzzie

    Democrat Articles Of Impeachment Will Charge Trump With “Inciting Insurrection”

    BY TYLER DURDEN
    FRIDAY, JAN 08, 2021 – 10:45

    Update (1615ET): NBC News reports that they have received a draft of the articles of impeachment that Democrats are planning to bring on Monday. The articles reportedly claim that Trump “engaged in high crimes and misdemeanors by inciting insurrection.”

    Presumably, this is very different from what Maxine Waters demanded of her supporters:

    From the Comments

    Everyone needs to understand that the piling on of attacks on Trump are really a piling on of attacks on Americans who support Trump. The goal is to shame and ostracize us Conservatives. We must not accept any of this and resist it. Without resisting it, we’ll eventually be dealt with like the internal opponents of the regimes in the Soviet Union and North Korea.

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      OldOzzie

      White House Slams Democrats’ “Politically Motivated” Impeachment, “Will Further Divide” America

      Update (1635ET): A few minutes after the Democrats’ articles of impeachment were leaked (well timed ahead of the evening news cycle) and after President-Elect Biden would not be drawn on whether this decision was a good idea with only days in President Trump’s term to go, The White House has issued a brief statement claiming that the impeachment article that may be brought against President Trump is “politically motivated”

      “As President Trump said yesterday, this is a time for healing and unity as one Nation.

      A politically motivated impeachment against a President with 12 days remaining in his term will only serve to further divide our great country.”

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        jelly34

        How is this”Healing”going to take place?……This is what the DemocRATS have been planning all along.They don’t care about”Healing”They want total control and obedience from the population.NOTHING LESS.

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      OldOzzie

      READ: New Articles Of Impeachment Against President Trump Released

      Introduced by Representative David Cicilline, who chairs the Democratic Policy and Communications Committee and sits on the Judiciary Committee, the 4-page resolution accuses President Trump of “willfully inciting violence against the Government of the United States” and blames him for unrest at the Capitol.

      “Shortly before the Joint Session commenced, President Trump addressed a crowd of his political supporters nearby. There, he reiterated false claims that “we won this election, and we won it by a landslide,” the document continues.

      The resolution – which likens President Trump to a “threat to national security, democracy, and the Constitution” – also accuses him of “wilfully making statements that encouraged – and foreseeably resulted in – imminent lawless action at the Capitol.”

      READ:

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      Lawrie

      The Democrats are terrified that Trump out of office is still their nemesis with his huge following and I would think a number of State legislatures who might now do the job they wanted to do weeks ago. If they can remove Trump they think they have cut off the head of the snake. They are wrong because it will inspire the many to fight harder.

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      OldOzzie

      And pictures of Mike Pence in feminine attire as a younger man, being very ‘intimate’ with young boys surfaced today – and Lin Wood posted them, along with this tweet.

      “And what was up with that completely different phrasing leading in to the Electoral College count?”

      Going back multiple administrations, there’s nothing like Pence’s preface in history.

      Notice the difference for yourself:

      Hat tip to our reader from down under who knows more U.S. constitutional law than most congressional lawmakers
      What Pence did was completely wrong under the Constitution because only the legislatures have the power to:

      1) change election laws, and

      2) choose Electors.

      I literally wrote the book on this (two, in fact).

      So, Pence, who’s always banging on about how religious he is, broke two of the Ten Commandments in one paragraph. He bore false witness and helped America’s enemies steal an election for the CCP’s guy – lying and stealing.

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        Peter C

        Hat tip to our reader from down under who knows more U.S. constitutional law than most congressional lawmakers

        Good work.

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        Tilba Tilba

        I think the change of wording is understandable (I didn’t say reasonable or necessary) because in the lead-up to 6 January there were a lot of misleading claims about there being “competing” or “duelling” slates of electors.

        This was actually never the case … all the swing states (in fact all the states) submitted just one certified slate of electors. The pro-Trump lists of electors were not certified at all, and were never going to have standing, as was shown on the day.

        What Pence did was completely wrong under the Constitution because only the legislatures have the power to:

        1) change election laws, and

        2) choose Electors.

        This is not correct either, in my view. The Constitution says that state legislatures are to choose the manner in which electors are chosen, and since the 19thC all states have legislated for the popular vote to decide electors.

        In addition to this, I would think (without having read any swing state laws) that each state sets out detailed procedures for the conduct of elections, the setting up of election panels, the powers of the secretary or state, powers of the governor, when recounts must or may occur, and so on.

        Not particularly controversial, and elections have been conducted this way for many decades. In light of the pandemic, quite a lot of states amended their rules to make voting easier and safer. The laws might give the secretary of state (or another official) wide discretion to modify the rules in the case of emergencies.

        Mandating new polling places or voting hours at short notice after a hurricane … that sort of thing. Covid-19 could count as such an event.

        I therefore think there may be less here than meets the eye. If state legislatures delegated a lot of authority to one or more officials, then that is their prerogative I expect.

        No court ruled that any state acted outside their state constitution.

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        RossP

        It is really frustrating to hear Maria is battling to get through the bureaucracy and even Mark Meadows.

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    Richard Ilfeld

    I am a little concerned that this blog is buying a bit too muh into the hysteria of the moment, and not looking at the real
    changes going on.

    Our system has changed in the US.
    Our international relations have changed under Mr. Trump.

    Just of few of the salient notions:
    For half a century the fate of a few dozen thousand Palestinian “refugees” was held out as the keystone to peace in the middle East, and central to the politics of the
    United nations.
    Since the end of the second world war an American defence umbrella over Europe, at almost any cost, to protect Europe from The Soviets, was a given. NATO was unquestioned as the most importance alliance for the west.
    It was unquestioned that open commercial engagement with China would bring them into the international family of nations engaged in fair commerce, and enhance freedoms in CHina
    itself.

    In the US the Bill of Rights was a Given; and the Courts were willing to protect citizens rights from the intrusion of government, under the assumption that the public square was a public place. We do not have the tools to deal with a public square that is the province of a few private corporations, to whom these rights do not apply.
    In a false effort to account for racial disparity, we have destroyed the value of credentials.
    Whether promotion from third grade to fourth, or granting of a PhD, employers know that for people from certain places these credentials must be questioned.
    Over time, it has become clear, based on real world performance, which parts of the economy believe still in meritocracy and which have adopted an alternative value system.
    It is reasonable to expect this gap to widen, and to correlate with our onging internal migration.
    We have normalized a vast number of new behaviours, a cancel culture, use of law enforcement as a political weapon, impeachment and recall as a casual harrassment, riots as a tatic, boycott and divestiture has part of an effort to make business accountable to other than shareholders.
    Perhaps most important we have established that a state or city can offer “sanctuary” from a Federal law it does not like.
    Many of the young left, uneducated in history, think this a one way street, A number of our states are not only run by conservatives, but are the size of and have the power of mid size countries. With our ongoing internal migration, we are likely to have a few states where traditional American values are strong indeed. It may suprise folks to realize how little reach the federal government has into the operations of a state if the state choses not to cooperate.

    IF the left, absent a singular target for their hate like Mr Trump, transfer their ire to the 70 million who voted, not of love for him but for principles that many on the left still give lip service to, they should not be surprised at the treatment they receive in return in that part of America where they don’t dominate in numbers and rule through corrupt institutions. If, on the other hand, debate is joined on specific causes, we shall have to see how that happens; will we all have to ask what Mr Zuckerberg wants before voting on a bill. In past revolutions, as they have matured, the left has consumed a goodly number of their own — wonder how the cancel culture will work at a family dinner.

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      Hi Richard a link in reply,

      The family dinner is going to be a beauty.

      This is the second time I have seen these BLM Antifa thugs use the same gutless king hit tactic. Then a daughter doxes her mum and aunt and uncle.

      What surprises me is the looks on the RINO traitor faces as they are waking up to what they have done and the technocrats censor the wrecked and bleeding victim its gopnna be worser before it gets gooder metinks.

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      Excellent.

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      Thank you Richard.
      For what it is worth I think the Left suffer from arrogance in the they believe they are right and anyone opposing them is evil.
      Thus Trump couldn’t have won the 2016 election because it was Hillary’s, hence the fight against Trump from the start. They are scared of him, hence the calls for him to be stood down or bringing on an impeachment when he only has 12 days to go.
      What happens after the Inauguration? They will continue trying to destroy him.

      The big problem for them is that Trump brought hope and improved living standards to millions and the Democrats want to take that away from them. Their policies won’t work either, as California is proving regarding the electricity policy. Blackouts there won’t look good. I hear that some States in New England may soon have that problem as well.
      The Democrats will try to cancel the second amendment as many of those 75 million who didn’t vote their way and own guns will be seen as a danger. That will cause a lot of resentment, and they will find that the army is unlikely to suppress any opposition. After all how many well paid Wokes join the armed forces?
      Then the conservative States will become very uncooperative making it even harder for the Socialist “paradise” to start. Interesting times ahead unfortunately.

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    Black Lives Matter boomerang: How media flipped script on violent protests after Capitol riot

    After a year of equivocation on destructive BLM riots, journalists appear to reverse position.

    The violent, deadly riot at the U.S. Capitol on Wednesday has prompted numerous media players to apparently flip the script on violent protests, brushing aside standards that they established last summer when much of the country was gripped by Black Lives Matter-led violence and rioting in major American cities.

    Media drops rationalization of violence in favor of condemnation

    The violent intrusion into the Capitol was met with near-universal condemnation worldwide, including by virtually every media outlet, broadcaster and commentator.

    Yet the language on display from much of the media yesterday was a sharp departure from rhetoric deployed by journalists last summer at the height of the Black Lives Matter-led riots and violence that gripped the country intermittently for several months.

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      Left’s Hypocrisy On Full Display After D.C. ‘Insurrection’
      I & I Editorial Board


      January 8, 2021

      What about the Democrats and their extreme-left supporters? Tragically, for them, violence is always acceptable when it’s in service to their cause. That’s especially true since the riots and mass protests began in late May following the death of George Floyd.

      But, as usual, congressional Democrats, the legacy press and social media giants have misreported, distorted and twisted facts to suit their own leftist agenda and inflame public opinion.

      In comments made not long after, Joe Biden actually referred to President Donald Trump’s supporters as “domestic terrorists,” setting up the very real possibility of political tribunals or criminal trials for those who backed his opponent and dared to protest clear voter fraud.

      “They weren’t protesters — don’t dare call them protesters. They were a riotous mob, insurrectionists, domestic terrorists,” Biden said.

      Now, flash back about half a year, when Antifa and Black Lives Matter were violently terrorizing cities, torching businesses, assaulting local citizens, even setting up “autonomous zones,” while “defunding the police” became all the rage among Democrats and other leftists.

      Biden running mate Kamala Harris in June called the out-of-control riots a “movement” and prophetically warned on Stephen Colbert’s “The Late Show”:

      “They’re not gonna stop before Election Day and they’re not going to stop after Election Day. And everyone should take note of that. They’re not gonna let up and they should not.”

      On Jan. 20, she’ll be one heartbeat away from the presidency.

      Meanwhile, violence by Trump supporters, or anyone else not on the left, is “terrorism,” or an “insurrection,” as the media and their bosom buddies in the Democratic Party now call the D.C. protests.

      Funny how clear hypocrisy is to everyone but the hypocrite.

      There are plenty of other examples of this dichotomy, especially in the media, which now routinely parrots Democratic talking points. A piece this week in the Daily Caller runs down a lengthy list of them. Here are just a few:

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      Disney CEO Bob Chapek Condemns Capitol Riots After Staying Silent on ‘Mulan’ Filming Near China’s Uyghur Concentration Camps

      Despite Chapeck’s appeal to America’s principles of “decency, kindness, and respect for others,” Disney faced a backlash after it became known that its hoped-for hit, Mulan was filmed in cooperation with agencies responsible for Chinese forced labor camps.

      Indeed, Disney even thanked the government agencies in Xinjiang, the province where Muslims are cast into forced labor.

      As Breitbart News reported:

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    John R Smith

    Isn’t there history of CIA, FBI, Pentagon misleading (ok, outright lying) to Presidents.
    Didn’t Eisenhower have to send a science advisor to Strategic Air Command in a little known command crisis over war fighting plans implemented without White House knowledge?
    The General warned us.
    Trump is his own man.
    A unwanted character trait in today’s world.
    (especially the male part)
    Here we are.

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    joseph

    There will be some wonderful movies created down the track . . . . .

    “I’m writing this hours before posting it, so events may unfold that add more information.

    The first thing you need to ask yourself: was the break-in at the Capitol, while Congress was in session holding a debate about election certification, an attempt to stop a transfer of power to Biden, or an attempt to stop the debate itself—during which legislators would have laid out evidence of fraud?

    The assault did achieve a stoppage of the debate, which was being carried live on television.

    The legislators were evacuated.” Jon Rappoport

    https://blog.nomorefakenews.com/2021/01/06/was-the-assault-on-the-capitol-building-a-false-flag/

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    Peter C

    Simon Parkes is about to be deplatformed from Bitchute.
    Natural news is reporting video playback outage.

    The reach of the deep state is almost terrifying. We will be reduced to writing letters again.

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    The Democrats have succeeded in turning America into a Soviet style country , look at Russia back in the 50 and 60, s . It is only downhill from here for every US citizen

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    Parler App On Brink Of Cancellation As Big Tech Purges Flynn, Powell Amid Growing List Of Pro-Trump Accounts

    Update (1705ET): Big tech is on a cancel crusade today – with Twitter suspending General Michael Flynn, attorney Sidney Powell and various other pro-Trump accounts (see below).

    Meanwhile, Apple is set to remove Twitter competitor Parler from its app store unless they enact a series of draconian crackdowns on free speech.

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      OldOzzie

      Mexico’s President Blasts Twitter & Facebook For Acting Like “Holy Inquisition” In Censoring Trump

      In a rare instance of a Left-wing Latin American leader siding with Trump, Mexico’s President Andrés Manuel López Obrador has condemned controversial actions taken by major US social media platforms to block Trump messages. He’s long had warm relations with the US president even as other regional leaders have remained cold.

      Recognizing the extreme dangers and abuse of big tech censorship for political speech, especially statements by elected government officials, Mexico’s president underscored that it’s an egregious violation and alarming precedent-setting severe abuse of power by Twitter and Facebook – both of which have blocked President Trump’s official accounts this week.

      “I don’t like anybody being censored or taking away from the the right to post a message on Twitter or Facebook. I don’t agree with that, I don’t accept that,” López Obrador said.

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      The threat inflation, the wild claims about a fascist coup, are transparent efforts by the cosseted political and cultural elites to endow their project with moral importance; to give their restoration of managerial, technocratic power after the four-year populist experiment — which is fundamentally the project that Biden and his influential supporters are currently engaged in — the gloss of historical urgency. It is mission creation. Worse, this narrative-building will allow the elites to circumscribe even more forms of political thought and speech than they already desire to do, on the basis that the latent fascism among the American rabble is likely to be stirred up by inflammatory ideas and commentary. Indeed, we’ve already been given a chilling glimpse of this post-incursion clampdown on “violent” speech in Twitter’s extraordinary decision to ban, outright, three of Trump’s tweets on Thursday and to lock him out of his account for 12 hours.

      It strikes me that this unilateral use of corporate power by Silicon Valley to prevent the democratically elected president of the US from engaging with millions of his voters and supporters, to physically forbid him from partaking in online discussion, is a grave assault on democracy, too. More grave, I would say, than the immoral and anti-democratic incursion of the Capitol building. Already, right away, we are seeing that the threat-inflating response to Thursday’s events will likely have longer-lasting negative consequences for open debate and democratic norms than the thing itself.

      The elites’ condemnation of the riotous invaders rings hollow, too. These are the same elites who refused, for weeks, to condemn the savagely destructive rioting that gripped large parts of the US in the wake of the police murder of George Floyd in Minneapolis. Indeed, serious commentators condemned anyone who used words like “riots” and “looting”. CNN infamously referred to fiery assaults on buildings and livelihoods as “mostly peaceful” protests. Biden and other leading Democrats were silent. When protesters assaulted police stations and even a courthouse, in Portland, little was said. You cannot implicitly green-light BLM rioting for weeks on end and then condemn the violent lunacy in the Capitol and expect to be taken seriously.

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        Old Ozzie…

        I don’t think the Democrats [ a massive misnomer] actually expect to be taken seriously by the rational amongst the American people…they’ve long abandoned that aspiration and they don’t feel at all in need of it.

        They have the power…and it’s huge….and they simply don’t care.

        They feel their decades of indoctrination and disinformation …their miseducation of American children and the closing of the American mind….has produced a critical mass of Americans who are unable to think clearly and rationally…unable to look past the seductive buzz of being part of the same group that comprises the world’s richest people…Big Tech..the Hollywood Left …the frequent flyers of the Martha’s Vineyard mob of uber-rich ex-Presidents and their uber-rich MSM enablers….and the Deep State rogues …the smug richly-dressed bright and shiny group that will jail law-abiding Americans without a moment of conscience …to keep themselves out of jail.

        Too many Americans are now unable to look past that cosy coven to see that their heroes are relinquishing America itself for their own evil personal gain….that it will never be those felonious elites who pay the price.

        The American elites will draft them ….enforced by that same Deep State…they’ll force law-abiding Americans …not the children of the elites….to defend America when their great Chinese Communist benefactor who made them…turns on them as they finally take the world.

        Australia is largely the same but on a smaller scale…less wealth…less power…but probably even more vulnerable.

        Although most Australians are seduced as surely as Americans are by the power of the fashionable group and their airhead groupthink….we suffer from greater geographical proximity to the Chinese Communist dictatorship …a tiny military …all-Left power brokers…both Government and Opposition….and we have everything in the way of food and all the minerals and infrastructure China needs to make them self-sufficient…should they decide to take it.

        Trump was Australia’s last hope for a secure future for our children…as surely as he was America’s.

        There hasn’t been a more dangerous time…a greater loss of hope for a future of peace…security and prosperity for the law-abiding aspirational rational people of our two countries ….to match this precarious time…in the lifetimes of almost anyone living now….even when they don’t recognise it…IMO.

        Thank you, President Donald Trump …greatest US President in these two centuries…for doing everything any human being possibly could have done against evil and insurmountable odds…to help the forgotten American people including minorities…especially African Americans…and to alert the world to the danger we face… and to try to mitigate it….including your great work on the China Virus…COVID.THANK YOU!

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          Tilba Tilba

          Trump was Australia’s last hope for a secure future for our children…as surely as he was America’s.

          What is the basis for this claim? Australia is a major trading partner with China – it’s worth billions both ways (we send them iron ore and it comes back as t-shirts and flat-screens).

          If China wanted to take Australia militarily, the economic cost to them would be immense … they would immediately lose 95% of their trading partners world-wide.

          Apart from anything else – we are not defenceless, and we have a bit of grunt in both our defence and offence. They could certainly not stroll into Sydney Harbour and take the Opera House without a shot being fired.

          But it’s my belief that it won’t happen in our lifetimes, or our grandchildren’s lifetimes.

          And most importantly, if the Chinese have any intent in terms of territorial conquest here, I don’t think having the White House occupied by Trump or Biden would make the slightest difference.

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            Tilba Tilba…

            What on earth does a Chinese Communist dictatorship care if taking Australia is costly?

            You think the Chinese people controlled by the Social Credit and face-recognition regime are going to rise up against a Chinese dictatorship government that delivers them a great prize?

            The prize they get is the most well-endowed country on earth…enormous space…clean land , air and water….food security…..security of minerals supply …everything they need and can then deprive the rest of the world of…for technology and infrastructure……copious quantities of the world’s best coal for free…which ….unlike Australian industry with our CAGW-captured politicians almost all grovelling and supine to Europe and the China-captured UN…they would burn in their thousands of coal-fired power stations without turning a whisker and without shame or retribution.

            They’d get no blowback on their coal-burning from the Socialist hypocrites of the CAGW hoax wherever they reside….by then there would be infinitely worse matters to worry about than CO2.

            China would also get our fishing grounds of course …and Chinese fishing fleets are in the process of depleting fish stocks all over the world as we speak…they totally ignore ownership of fishing rights and waters …and follow no rules of sustainability.

            The trade issue you speak of would of course be null and void…there would be no Australia as we know it any more…if we Australians were still here we’d probably be slaves like the Uyghers and Tibetans…maybe useful organ-donors.

            And where would we go anyway…there’s nowhere in the world that China hasn’t embedded itself as down-payment for such takeovers…Clive Hamilton’s two books and those of Peter Schweitzer detail it.

            Aside from the Socialist America for the next sixteen to twenty years…are you suggesting the Europeans might come to our aid …when you say China would lose 95% of its trading partners if they took Australia?

            Europe accepts military aid…it doesn’t give it…not outside the UK…and the UK didn’t come to our aid in WW2 when Australia really needed it…only America.

            In the midst of COVID mayhem…Europe jumped in to get themselves a trade treaty with China ..presumably to cut the ground out from under the newly independent UK.

            Can you actually see Europe putting anything on the line to save Australia from being taken over by China?

            IMO they would trade on and take advantage of our demise….there isn’t anything that suggests otherwise.

            Had it not been for a European official who flouted advice to the contrary , there would be no Wuhan Lab and probably no COVID, because a French European official made the Wuhan facility happen….against all objections.

            The agreement provided for about 30 French scientists to oversee operational safety there but China’s People’s Liberation Army soon evicted them…and replaced them with PLA Colonels etc.

            So no….I don’t think there’s any reliable help coming from Europe or anywhere for Australia.

            Jim Molan’s more concerned than we’ve ever seen him about any threat…likewise other Australian China-watchers.

            Apart from their building of a military fortress out of a few rocks that were the Spratly Islands in the South China Sea…from where they warn off all passers-by…and sink some…China has a long-standing strategy they call their Nine Dashes claim that they show on their maps as China territory …against International law.

            The Nine Dashes area covers Taiwan and all of the international waters to the South of Taiwan and fits with their ‘denial of access’ strategy that they’ve posited for years as the core element of their Navy’s asymmetric warfare policy….when their blue-water navy was in its infancy.

            It was said that with strategic denial-of-access they could achieve their aims despite opposition from large Naval fleets.

            On the map the Nine Dash line looks like a measure to deny access to help from any other Navy as they take Taiwan by force.

            We’re not defenceless but China is much closer to surpassing American capabilities than was thought until very recently.

            https://theconversation.com/chinas-military-might-is-much-closer-to-the-us-than-you-probably-think-124487

            There are much more pessimistic assessments than the above….and the Biden Socialist administration will cut back the military budget as Obama massively did…his other trillion-dollar programs of handouts to many sectors will demand it.

            Maybe …if the rest of the world decides they can’t allow our minerals to be captured by China they would decide to help us…but not otherwise….they’re all too dependent on China.

            As far as the time factor is concerned, I saw a discussion recently where an expert [can’t remember who it was] said Australia has possibly ten years to prepare for a possible move on us by China.

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              Tilba Tilba

              The prize they get is the most well-endowed country on earth…enormous space…clean land , air and water….food security…..security of minerals supply …everything they need

              Have to disagree with you. Quite wise scientific types believe that the true maximum sustainable carrying capacity of the Australian continent is about 12 million – we are already more than double that, and the environment is hugely stressed in many ways.

              We are a very ancient, dry, nutrient-poor place, and outside of Antarctica, the lest-endowed continent, and by some margin. We all live on the coast.

              I think your fears about physical invasion by the Chinese are unfounded.

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        OldOzzie- yes. A point
        but, there is the false meme, murder of Floyd. This was a 220 lb over 6ft convicted thug, caught while fleeing from a crime, doped up with multiple illicit substances and struggling.

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      Anyone have a printing press? We may be reduced to printing 18th century style pamphlets with fancy fonts and all.

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      Big Tech has become a tyranny – Facebook’s banning of Donald Trump sets a terrifying precedent.

      In a crowded field, those cheering the suspension of Donald Trump’s Facebook account might just be the most idiotic people in political life today.

      The decision announced by Facebook CEO Mark Zuckerberg yesterday to close down Trump’s page for the rest of his presidency, perhaps indefinitely, represents the most profound assertion yet of Big Tech’s right to police democratic politics.

      At a stroke, unaccountable billionaire capitalists have decided to deprive a democratically elected president – the leader of the free world, no less – access to a large part of what now constitutes the public square.

      Well, with the banning of the 45th president, illiberal leftists have officially surrendered any right to complain when the power and moral authority they have handed to Big Tech is wielded against those they happen to agree with.

      If this can happen to Donald Trump, it can really happen to anyone. But our supposed betters in politics and the media are apparently still too dense to see that.

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        Repressive Tolerance in Action

        Recent Coverage Captures The Philosophy of Herbert Marcuse

        The events of January 6th captivated the attention of the nation and the globe. I will not discuss them here right now. If, as Zhou Enlai allegedly claimed, it is “too early to say” the full impact of the French Revolution; then it is far to soon to know the impact of January 6th.

        Across the social media landscape, right-wing pundits and populists are furious at the “hypocrisy” of the Left praising last summer’s #BLM “protests” while condemning this week’s DC “insurrection.”

        But the Left is not being hypocritical when it condemns the Americans who stormed the Capitol Building. It is following its stated doctrine. Repressive tolerance is that doctrine, and it was developed by Herbert Marcuse in a famous article of the same name. I have twice broached the doctrine of repressive tolerance, once in Why Don’t Leftists Condemn the Violence and once in Total and Limited War and Politics. The reaction to January 6th suggests I should discuss the doctrine again.

        For a detailed exposition of repressive tolerance, I refer you to my earlier articles.

        Here, let’s just summarize the doctrine of repressive tolerance in plain English:

        . Tolerance is only to be extended to truth.

        . Leftism is objectively true, and anything other than leftism is not.

        . Therefore tolerance is only to be extended to leftism.

        . Anyone who disagrees with this has been indoctrinated. To the extent that the majority of people disagree, that means the majority of people are indoctrinated.

        . Since most people are indoctrinated, leftists must break the indoctrination so that they can grasp the truth of leftism.

        . To break the indoctrination, leftists must promote left-wing thought and suppress right-wing thought.

        . Promoting left-wing thought is accomplished by changing “established universes of meaning” and actively presenting “information slanted in the opposite direction,” e.g. by political correctness and propaganda.

        . Suppressing right-wing thought is accomplished by withdrawing the freedom of speech, press, and assembly for anyone who disagrees with leftists on race, gender, religion, armament, public services, social security, or healthcare, e.g. deplatforming us entirely.

        . If necessary to withdraw these freedoms, leftists must operate at such scale that the actions cease to be non-violent and become revolutionary violence.

        . Leftists who use revolutionary violence are not to be condemned by any leftists.

        In brief, the doctrine holds that left-wing speech, assembly and even violence must be praised and promoted; while right-wing speech, assembly, and especially violence must be condemned, suppressed, and punished.

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      Big Tech Purge Continues, Facebook Bans Walk Away Movement, Reddit Bans Pro-Trump Group, Twitter Purge Ongoing, Biden Labels Trump Supporters “Domestic Terrorists”

      Posted on January 8, 2021 by Sundance

      Extreme control efforts are a reaction to extreme fear. If the left-wing political elements who control most social media platforms were not fearful they would not be taking such aggressive action. Today Brandon Straka announces his #WalkAway group has been removed from Facebook and deplatformed.

      The “Walk Away” movement was an organization of voices of former Democrats who turned away from the extreme leftist moves by the democrat party. The group was supportive of President Trump and the populist ‘America First’ message.

      This move comes after Joe Biden called President Trump supporters “domestic terrorists” and announced his administration’s intent to target those voices as members of an insurrection against his administration. An alarming move to a totalitarian state where dissenting voices must be silenced and removed.

      The massive deplatforming and removal is unprecedented in scale. The movement by WordPress/Automattic to deplatform CTH shocked many in the media when it happened to us the week after the election.

      In the aftermath of CTH being deplatformed we received many notifications of support and shocked messages from inside the tech industry. In recent days those same voices have signaled that CTH was likely a coordinated first-strike that previewed this post election wave to shut down voices of dissent.

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      OldOzzie

      Twitter Permanently Banning Donald Trump Is ‘Absolute Authoritarian Lunacy’

      The terrorist Ayatollah of Iran and Chinese Communist Party are still allowed to tweet.

      But not Donald Trump

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      OldOzzie

      Google Employee Ashley Edwards Calls for Retribution Against GOP Politicians

      An employee at Google’s News Labs, which has trained thousands of journalists since its founding in 2015, is calling Republican politicians “traitors” and demanding they be thrown in jail.

      Ashley Alese Edwards posted a number of tweets targeting various Republican senators and congressmen, calling for draconian punishments for alleged “treason.”

      [email protected] treasonous terrorists,” said Edwards in a tweet two days ago. “Every single one of the Republicans who enabled this need to be jailed.”

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      OldOzzie

      Emails Reveal Facebook Banned Users At Hunter Biden’s Request.

      JANUARY 8, 2021 NATALIE WINTERS

      As Facebook deletes President Trump’s accounts, The National Pulse can report that Hunter Biden communicated with Facebook executives to have them remove certain profiles at the former VP’s son’s request.

      The emails, originally reported by Loomered.com, outline an intimate relationship dating back over a decade.

      Loomered.com continues to connect the dots between the Biden family and big tech, sharing emails that show Hunter Biden’s Rosemont Seneca business partner Arlene Busch had lunched with Chris Kelly. Busch described Kelly, a former high-level Facebook executive as “remain[ing] Mark Zuckerberg’s closest adviser.”

      “He is more tied into Silicon Valley money than anyone I know,” she added in the October 2010 email. In response, Hunter Biden requested that Busch let him “speak with Chris” about the prospect of receiving tens of millions of dollars of “Silicon money.”

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      Sean Davis
      @seanmdav

      2h
      The account of the terrorist ayatollah of Iran, who has repeatedly called for literal genocide against [email protected], is currently being *promoted* by Twitter.

      Twitter doesn’t care about violence. What it wants is silence from its enemies: you.

      Quote Tweet
      Zeke Miller
      @ZekeJMiller
      · 2h
      WASHINGTON (AP) — Twitter permanently suspends Trump from its platform, citing ‘risk of further incitement of violence.’

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      OldOzzie

      We won’t be silenced: Donald Trump circumvents Twitter ban – By Anne Barrowclough – The Australian

      But Mr Trump succeeded in temporarily circumventing the ban, sending four tweets before they disappeared from the social media platform.

      In his tweets, the President suggested he would build his own, alternative platform to continue posting on social media.

      “We have been negotiating with various other sites, and we will have a big announcement soon … while we also look at the possibilities of building out our own platform in the near future. We will not be SILENCED!” said Mr Trump.

      From the Comments

      Richard
      21 minutes ago
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      You’re right. Straight from the CCP script.

      Those who made billions from selling out American workers to China are now back in control in Washington. But everything will be OK in their warped and cosseted world so long as the sold out can continue buying cheap stuff from China on Amazon.

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    dinn, rob

    https://balance10.blogspot.com/2021/01/capitol-police-open-doors-for.html

    US Capitol police open doors for protestors; they stand aside; protestors have cop tour guide

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      Don’t exaggerate threat of the US Capitol’s ragtag rioters

      Brendan O’Neill

      And now let’s be clear about what did not take place at the Capitol building. This was not a fascist coup, as so many shrill, supposedly liberal commentators are claiming. Their flagrant use of the word “fascist” to describe every political movement they disapprove of is an insult to reason and history. This wasn’t a coup full stop. The National Guard swiftly suppressed the morons, the barricades were put back up, and even their hero, Donald Trump, told them to go home. A coup is a conscious effort to illegally seize power from the government. These people couldn’t even believe they made it into the Capitol. They were like children finding a candy store unguarded.

      And it wasn’t an insurrection, either, as Joe Biden and others are calling it. Except perhaps a pantomime insurrection, a cosplay revolt, a more heated version of those history aficionados who spend their weekends dressed up as soldiers of the American Revolution or the American Civil War.

      But the photos show something very different. They show wide-eyed protesters, as bemused as the rest of us that they are inside the Capitol building. In some photos it looks more like an unscheduled tour of the Capitol rather than anything like a coup — the protesters even stayed inside the barriers as they walked along the carpet. They took selfies while sitting on the Speaker’s chair.

      One of the modern-day Hitlers grins as he poses for a photo next to the statue of Ronald Reagan. If it wasn’t for the terrible tragedy that subsequently unfolded — five people have now died in the melee — one could be forgiven for thinking this was a badly timed public visit to the Capitol, accidentally occurring while representatives were present.

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        Four died of natural causes, probably old age given the profile of many of the protesters. And one murdered by a Cop. A black cop shooting an unarmed white woman who was no threat. Where is the George Floyd style outrage?

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    What the Ombudsman is really saying is that the POTUS…the Department of National Intelligence and the American people ‘s security interests were not enough to over-rule the power of the out-of-office personally vested interest Democrats and their Fascist cabal of BigTech…Deep State…Fake News Media and the Corporate behemoths’ militant protection of their money funnel from the Chinese Communist dictatorship….ie the Democrats’and their Praetorian Guard’s quid pro quo for their sell-out of America’s future.

    What could be a greater incitement to desperate measures for sidelined Americans wanting their basic rights and their vote to count…wanting a country where the core human quality of aspiration was available to them and not only to the dysfunctional drug-soaked children of the greedy nefarious elites….than for such evil to be covered up….facilitated…rewarded….mainstreamed…and installed in the White House?

    What could drive them to despair more than to be forced to underpin and do the dirty work for…provide sustenance for that cabal….while they and they alone …hard-working law-abiding Americans are denied their freedom of speech and their basic right to know …their right to work and to vote in a fair election?

    What could be more certain to instil hopelessness in those people …after losing all of that….having had to suck up all of that as they watched others burn, destroy and kill with impunity because they’re of the Left…than to then be denied their right to express their feelings of powerlessness.

    Law-abiding Americans can’t even have faith in SCOTUS to defend and uphold the Constitution now…they are completely alone.

    And yet these people …or their children …will be the ones Democrats draft to put their lives on the line to defend this new vile America when it all hits the fan…when the Democrats’ emboldened benefactors turn on them…when Uncle Joe’s sponsor Xi and his CCP decide to enforce their Nine Dashes claim off Vietnam and the Philippines…to finally take Taiwan and ‘deny access’ of many countries including Australia to international waters.

    It’s the Left that’s incited violence and insurrection in America…not Trump or any conservative American …and they’ve done it with malevolent intent…relentlessly…cruelly…over the span of years…with total disregard for the thousands of lives lost….through the four years of the Trump administration….stepping it up during COVID and the election campaign…to this day.

    The investigation into the Democrats’ stealing of this election must continue…must accelerate…nothing but full exposure of the real criminality of the Democrats and their Fascist cabal ….and full accountability under the law….will save America.

    Likewise investigation of Seth Rich.

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    deplorable lord kek

    Trump just banned on twitter.

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    Lori

    Is anyone on board with freedomwatchusa.org ? https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Sam36r7l1hI

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    OldOzzie

    Violence in the Capitol, Dangers in the Aftermath

    From the Cold War to the War on Terror: the harms from authoritarian “solutions” are often greater than the threats they are ostensibly designed to combat.

    Glenn Greenwald Jan 8

    Yesterday’s invasion of the Capitol by a Trump-supporting mob has certainly generated intense political passion and pervasive rage. It is not hard to understand why: the introduction of physical force into political protest is always lamentable, usually dangerous, and, except in the rarest of circumstances that are plainly inapplicable here, unjustifiable. It was foreseeable that an action of this type would result in deaths. The most surprising outcome is that “only” four people died: an unarmed woman, a Trump supporter and Air Force veteran, who was shot in the neck by a law enforcement officer, and three other protesters who died from unspecified “medical emergencies” (one reportedly died due to accidentally tasering himself, inducing a heart attack).

    It is unhinged to the point of being obscene to compare yesterday’s incursion to the 9/11 attack or (as Sen. Chuck Schumer did last night) to Pearl Harbor. By every metric, the magnitude and destructiveness of those two events are in an entirely different universe. But that does not mean there are no applicable lessons to be drawn from those prior attacks.

    Within hours of the Capitol being cleared, we heard truly radical proposals from numerous members of Congress. Senators and House members who objected to Electoral College certification, or questioned its legitimacy, should be formally accused of sedition and removed from expelled from the House if not prosecuted, argued Rep. Cori Bush (D-MO), with other House members expressing support. Even those unarmed protesters who peacefully entered the Capitol should, many argued, be hunted by the FBI as domestic terrorists.

    Calls proliferated for the banning of the social media accounts of instigators and protest participants. Journalists and politicians cheered the decision by Facebook and Twitter to temporarily bar the President from using their service, and then cheered again when Facebook’s CEO Mark Zuckerberg announced on Tuesday that the ban on Trump extended through Biden’s inauguration. Some journalists, such as CNN’s Oliver Darcy, complained that Facebook had not gone far enough, that more mass censorship was needed of right-wing voices. The once-radical 2006 Gingrich argument — that some opinions are too dangerous to allow to be expressed because they are pro-terrorist and insurrectionary — is now thriving, close to a consensus.

    The complete reversal in mentality from just a few months ago is dizzying. Those who spent the summer demanding the police be defunded are furious that the police response at the Capitol was insufficiently robust, violent and aggressive. Those who urged the abolition of prisons are demanding Trump supporters be imprisoned for years. Those who, under the banner of “anti-fascism,” demanded the firing of a top New York Times editor for publishing an op-ed by Sen. Tom Cotton (R-AR) advocating the deployment of the U.S. military to quell riots — a view deemed not just wrong but unspeakable in decent society — are today furious that the National Guard was not deployed at the Capitol to quash pro-Trump supporters. Antifa advocates are working to expose the names of Capitol protesters to empower the FBI to arrest them on terrorism charges. And while Rep. Cori Bush’s proposal to unseat members of Congress for their subversive views went mega-viral, many forget that in 1966, the Georgia State Legislature refused to seat Julian Bond after he refused to repudiate his anti-war work with the Student Non-Violent Coordinating Committee, then considered a domestic terrorist group.

    Those who argued in the summer that property damage is meaningless or even noble are treating smashed windows and looted podiums at the Capitol as treason, as a coup. One need not dismiss the lamentable actions of yesterday to simultaneously reject efforts to apply terms that are plainly inapplicable: attempted coup, insurrection, sedition. There was zero chance that the few hundred people who breached the Capitol could overthrow the U.S. Government — the most powerful, armed and militarized entity in the world — nor did they try.

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      OldOzzie

      Glenn Greenwald Blasts Big Tech for Censoring ‘Unilaterally, with No Standard, Accountability or Appeal’

      Journalist Glenn Greenwald has criticized Silicon Valley tech companies for an increase in censorship following the recent suspension of President Donald Trump’s social media accounts. Greenwald expects the Masters of the Universe to quickly escalate their censorship as the belief that ” tech oligarchs should police our discourse is a virtual consensus.”

      In a number of posts to Twitter, journalist Glenn Greenwald has heavily criticized the Silicon Valley Masters of the Universe following the recent suspension of President Trump’s social media accounts, noting that the companies exert their power “unilaterally, with no standard, accountability or appeal.”

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      robert rosicka

      Was just reading about a “Darwin Award” recipient who it seems managed to get his by hiding a taser down his pants in the Capitol building and when the crush was in full swing he somehow had a chair leg jammed into his pants setting off the taser .
      It was labelled as death by heart attack and I was wondering at the large number of deaths but minimal with firearms .
      More than likely just a story though.

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    Maptram

    Historic Times. I just heard the news that it will be the first time that an outgoing president will not attend the inauguration of the incoming president.

    There is probably plenty of history created during the 2020 election. My contribution is that the 2020 election was probably the first time that, for brief periods during the early hours of December 4 counting in several key seats, the presidential contender was getting up to about 110% of votes and the president was getting around -10%.

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    Brenda Spence

    Interesting interview giving us hope.

    https://the dailycoin.org/2021/01/08/dark-day-for-america-will-trump-strike-back-alex-newman

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      Hanrahan

      The President has to understand that if he walks away, they are never going to leave him alone. . .

      A Biden administration will set out to DESTROY Trump and family. A centuries old tradition of allowing past presidents to exit stage left, ride off into the sunset if you will, will be forgotten.

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        Neo

        A centuries old tradition of allowing past presidents to exit stage left, ride off into the sunset if you will, will be forgotten.

        What seems to be happening is that investigations that were in train as Trump became president will be revived now that he’s not president. Tax, electoral funding and whatnot. Its VERY important that Trump be investigated and charged IF there is anything where there is evidence he has broken the law. If not it sets a precedent that the US president is above the law which is the worst possible outcome.

        Of course Trumps die hard supporters will NEVER concede that Trump could possibly ever be anything other than pure and good and of course they would let their innocent daughters do sleep overs where he can show them the right way to do their taxes….

        sorry…all getting a bit silly….

        Basically though, he will be up for investigation and will have questions to answer that being in office has shielded him from. iTS not a witch hunt, just a natural progression that only the truly deluded haven’t seen coming.

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          Hanrahan

          sorry…all getting a bit silly….

          It certainly is if you are suggesting that every DC democrat is pure as the driven snow, that Trump is the only sinner.

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          Cynic of A

          Oh??? Like Hillary was???
          Hillary was never President, and she’s never been investigated nor prosecuted, but you thinks Trump should be?
          That’s a bit one-eyed doncha think?

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          Analitik

          So explain The Clinton Foundation, Neo

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    OldOzzie

    Biden References Nazi Propaganda Minister Joseph Goebbels as he Attacks Hawley and Cruz – Hawley Responds (VIDEO)

    Senator Hawley responded:

    “President-elect Biden has just compared me and another Republican Senator to Nazis. You read that correctly. Think about that for a moment. Let it sink in. Because I raised questions in the format prescribed by the laws of the United States about the way elections were conducted in the state of Pennsylvania, just as Democrats did about other states in 2001, 2005, and 2017, he is calling me a Nazi. This is undignified, immature, and intemperate behavior from the President-elect. It is utterly shameful. He should act like a dignified adult and retract these sick comments. And every Democrat member of congress should be asked to disavow these disgusting comments.”

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    William Astley

    Google and Apple, Suddenly both together as ifc companies are now controlled by the ‘Democratic’ Party of America, have threaten free speech apps with removal from access to all Apple and Android devices….

    And have ordered the Free Speech apps…… to filter out all Free Speech. Talking about hot button topics. Like 2020 US election felony. Or Democratic felony activity. Or FBI hiding of evidence and threatening of whistleblowers.

    https://www.bbc.com/news/technology-55598887

    Google has suspended “free speech” social network Parler from its Play Store over its failure to remove “egregious content”.

    Parler styles itself as “unbiased” social media and has proved popular with people banned from Twitter.

    But Google said the app had failed to remove posts inciting violence.

    Apple has also warned Parler it will remove the app from its App Store if it does not comply with its content-moderation requirements.

    Launched in 2018, Parler has proved particularly popular among supporters of US President Donald Trump and right-wing conservatives. Such groups have frequently accused Twitter and Facebook of unfairly censoring their views.

    While Mr Trump himself is not a user, the platform already features several high-profile contributors following earlier bursts of growth in 2020.

    Texas Senator Ted Cruz boasts 4.9 million followers on the platform, while Fox News host Sean Hannity has about seven million.

    It briefly became the most-downloaded app in the United States after the US election, following a clampdown on the spread of election misinformation by Twitter and Facebook.

    Comment:

    It is a good thing the second act of the Washington story includes a whonk, whonk, whonk, moment. Biden and Pelosi are going to leave to China for asylum, before the US Military announcement which will provide hard evidence to support the assertion that covid was designed and released by the Chinese for tactical and commercial reasons.

    What can the media. Biden will not survive the year in China. Pelosi will live in. But who would listen? The US Military cures covid. What can the fake media say? CNN is going to be sold.

    Days after which Google and Apple will absolutely stop all censorship of the internet content. Later some masters of the universe are going to lose their companies, their money, and their citizenship.

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      RossP

      I pray all your inside information proves to be true William.

      Google and Apple removing the Parler app from their stores is a joke. Anyone will still be able to download from their site. Being “censored” by Google and Apple will just motivate more people to shift over to them.

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    OldOzzie

    Commentary: Five Big Ways the Chinese Communist Party Infiltrates America

    The Chinese Communist Party (CCP) is seeking to dominate America, not only militarily and economically, but by undermining our cultural institutions. The CCP meddling has gone undetected, in many cases, for years. But a new digital news site is aggressively shining a spotlight on the CCP’s infiltration campaign in the United States. Since relaunching in 2020, the National Pulse has been dishing up a steady stream of exclusive stories exposing China’s nefarious infiltration program.

    Natalie Winters, a Senior Reporter at the National Pulse, is finding scoops the mainstream media is missing. “The Chinese Communist Party likes nothing more than to fly under the radar,” Winters said. “They hate nothing more than the stories we publish at the National Pulse which bring the infiltration campaigns they are waging to light.”

    Winters said the CCP has successfully targeted the following five groups as part of their overall campaign to influence and infiltrate the country:

    1. Mainstream Media
    2. Academia
    3. Think tanks
    4. Current elected officials
    5. Former elected officials

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      Ted O'Brien.

      What’s this infiltrate you are talking about?

      Who needs to infiltrate in a nation which depends heavily on the income it gains by inviting foreigners to study and work in our universities?

      Who needs to infiltrate in a nation which depends on foreign investment to fund a 35 hour working week and holiday leave loading?

      All they have to do is ask, or apply for the right job.

      Who has noticed how many of our top medical practitioners are Chinese? And that many of them also work in China?

      There are pluses and minuses in the relationship. Keep working on the pluses. To date we have been our own worst enemies.

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    […] Politically correct spies? CIA withheld China Intel because they didn’t want to help Trump […]

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    David Maddison

    The Left and their censorship are now totally out of control

    Google has removed Parler (free speech equivalent of Facebook) from their App store.

    Apple will do the same.

    Attempts to log onto Parler from the web fail.

    All because President Trump said he’d move there since he is now banned on other platforms.

    Leftists can’t handle alternative opinions, they lack the cognitive and moral ability to do so.

    https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2021/01/breaking-google-removes-parler-app-store-amid-reports-trump-joining-platform/

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    Another Ian

    “The Future of America”

    https://noconsensus.wordpress.com/2021/01/08/the-future-of-america/

    Other threads there too

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    Another Ian

    Well you wouldn’t want public comment on things like this would you?

    “Those Exposed To Disease To Be Thrown In Jail For 90 Days, Given Forced Treatment Says Proposed NY Law: Coronavirus Update XLVII”

    https://wmbriggs.com/post/34109/

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    Cynic of A

    RINO. A popular term to describe those elected under the Republican platform.
    Really? Who the hell said they were Republicans in the first place? Romney is NOT a Republican!
    It is well within the Democrats playbook, and within their ability, to install Democrats into the Republican fold. I would suggest that McConnel, Rumney and the others, are actually Democrats in mindset and expectation of reward.
    It’s so sad when commentators say the Senate is 50:50. It’s no where near that! One said that Harris would be repeatedly called to place a deciding vote.
    There are 20 or 30 Democrats on the Republican side of the chamber, and Harris will never be called..

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    David Maddison

    Jo, now that the Left are shutting down all conservatives on the socialist media platforms, including the President of the United States himself, your site where conservatives can speak freely, and where even Leftists are allowed to speak, is more important than ever.

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    Another Ian

    For Firefox users

    “Mozilla Firefox
    https://archive.is/Vbwqk

    “…By all means the question of when to deplatform a head of state is a critical one, among many that must be addressed. When should platforms make these decisions? Is that decision-making power theirs alone?
    But as reprehensible as the actions of Donald Trump are, the rampant use of the internet to foment violence and hate, and reinforce white supremacy is about more than any one personality. Donald Trump is certainly not the first politician to exploit the architecture of the internet in this way, and he won’t be the last. We need solutions that don’t start after untold damage has been done.
    Changing these dangerous dynamics requires more than just the temporary silencing or permanent removal of bad actors from social media platforms.
    Additional precise and specific actions must also be taken: ..”

    Dangit. Now I have to change browsers. I liked their Faceblank fence feature and hate to change things on my computer. I’m more of a point and click user so this will be a royal pain.”

    https://chiefio.wordpress.com/2021/01/08/w-o-o-d-swamp-won-8-jan-2021/#comment-137336

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    Another Ian

    O/T but

    “4473 Form”

    “Was revised for 2021. It now includes the option of “Non Binary” as a gender. I just purchased my first few firearms of 2021 as a full fledged “Russet Potato”. Thank you 2021.”

    https://www.redpowermagazine.com/forums/topic/137228-4473-form/

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    Another Ian

    Fair comment

    “Here’s the thing. If Demarxists won the election, fair and square, then wouldn’t they exude confidence and frivolity? Wouldn’t they just brush aside, with a laugh, anything that the Bad OrangeMan said? “Whatever, he’s gone in 2 weeks, so long OrangeMan!”

    Instead, we see the Demarxists and CINOs in Full Panic Mode.

    Now why in the world would Nazi Pelosi call for a meaningless impeachment or 25th amendment? If Pedo Joe won fair and square, why would he lower himself to calling Ted Cruz or Josh Hawley, NAZIs?

    Panic. Mode. What is coming that they are terrified of?”

    http://www.smalldeadanimals.com/2021/01/08/every-time/#comment-1395163

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