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    Jojodogfacedboy

    Here is an excellent article in how all the mainstream media’s colluding with the Democrats to keep the public from the voter fraud which happened when President Trump won.

    https://quadrant.org.au/opinion/tony-thomas/2020/12/the-mushrooming-of-the-2020-us-election/

    The media is trying to mislead the public in President Trump’s victory.

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      Fuel Filter

      JOJO, it’s a wonderful thing that he posted that transcript, and thanks for the link.

      But that’s all he really did. No deep background nor analysis. But perhaps it is enough and speaks for itself.

      Anyone here know how much of the larger population of Australia reads Quadrant? I would bet not that high a percentage. Again, though, perhaps enough.

      At the very least that transcript will get a wider circulation.

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      OldOzzie

      Why Sidney Powell gets the Galileo treatment

      Observers of human history might have to go back all the way to Galileo to find a ruling class as determined to cancel someone as much as today’s is to cancel Sidney Powell in response to her single-minded devotion to bringing the truth of the full scale of the 2020 election fraud to light.

      The American ruling class of 2020 is bizarrely opposed to allocating any oxygen to what Sidney Powell has discovered and is alleging about Dominion Voting Systems (and others), about vote-shifting algorithms and partial decimal vote counts, and about vote manipulation showing up throughout the country. Even Rudy Giuliani, the President’s attorney, and Mark Meadows, the President’s Chief of Staff, seem hellbent on publicly keeping their distance from Powell — and on keeping President Trump from getting too close to or aligned with Powell

      Other elements of the ruling class — such as SCOTUS and much of the rest of the federal judiciary — won’t even look at the evidence Powell has assembled. They just ‘don’t want to go there’, and so they make up legal excuses — e.g., lack of standing — and wave off the substance of the allegations.

      What gives? Why are they behaving this way?

      Aligned with this explanation is the internet speculation about the remarkable election wins of RINOs and quasi-Never-Trumpers Mitch McConnell, Lindsey Graham and Susan Collins (and even of moderate, no charisma John Cornyn, whose vote total implausibly exceeded Trump’s in Texas).

      All won big despite enormous opposition campaign spending and beat expectations and polls by a sizable margin — in the same election President Trump supposedly lost to a senile old man who couldn’t draw 200 people to any campaign event (and still can’t draw flies to his speeches from the “office of the President-elect”).

      These Senate results may not scream fraud to the same degree the Trump/Biden result does, but they have an odor about them.

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    Fuel Filter

    I got these from the conclusion of a post of 12/23/2020.

    If you decide to RTWT be aware that he is assuming the VERY worst-case scenario, which I don’t think would happen under any circumstances whatsoever.

    But yes, I do think the CCP does want our “Breadbasket of the World” for themselves (and yes, that includes the California Central Valley) to feed their masses.

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    The ten pathways to a Trump victory

    These are ten feasible pathways to victory. They do not require magical thinking or miracle interventions.

    {He could use any single one; or any combination of these below:}

    1.    Declassify everything and expose Joe Biden as a criminal, treasonous puppet of the CCP, then arrest him for treason or offer him a pardon in exchange for Biden to concede.

    2.    Invoke 14th Amendment to strip electoral votes from states engaged in insurrection or rebellion against the United States.

    3.    Appoint Sidney Powell special prosecutor, and allow her to issue subpoenas / search warrants and issue indictments against treasonous actors. Then acquire confessions.

    4.    Activate the Insurrection Act and deploy the military seize ballots and voting machines, then conduct a recount under military authority.

    5.    Invoke the Pence-Raiklin Maneuver: Have Pence reject electoral votes from states that certified fraudulent, illegal votes.

    6.    Use the 2018 Executive Order on election interference to seize Big Tech and the legacy media, while arresting Biden and all complicit operators, charging them with treason. This would nullify the election and force a re-do.

    7.    Roll out all the evidence of cyber warfare from China, declare the election an act of warfare against the United States, declare new elections to be held under military authority. (We the People Convention.)

    8.    Invoke the National Emergency Broadcast System, seize control over the treasonous media, broadcast all the evidence of vote fraud and urge the American people to demand Congress vote for the Trump electors on Jan. 6th.

    9.    Convince state legislatures to revoke their Biden electoral slate, and by exposing irrefutable voter fraud, have those lawmakers certify a NEW slate of Trump electors.

    10.    Achieve victory with SCOTUS in the Pennsylvania case, and then invalidate fraudulent post-Nov. 3rd votes in all the swing states.
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    Now, in this essay I think he is dead-on with many of the most important current issues, but please remember, as you RTWT, my caveats above…

    https://www.naturalnews.com/2020-12-22-situation-update-dec-22nd-ten-pathways-to-a-trump-victory.html

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      Dave in the States

      3. Appoint Sidney Powell special prosecutor, and allow her to issue subpoenas / search warrants and issue indictments against treasonous actors. Then acquire confessions.

      This would cause a stir because it would not be somebody from the swamp investigating. Usually what happens with “special investigations” is that it become like the climategate investigations. They find that there is “nothing to see here.” This way they sweep it under the rug until it the issue is out of sight and out of mind.

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      Peter C

      Both Mike Adams at Natural News and Simon Parkes reported a meeting at the White House on Christmas Eve, attended by Sidney Powell, Rudi Guiliani, General Flynn and White House staff including VP Mike Pence, Chief of Staff Mark Meadows, white house councel Pat Cippolone, and likely others.
      Apparently Powell. Flynn and Guiliani argued forcefully for POTUS to invoke the Insurrection Act immediately and start arrests. All the others were against. Pence apparently said he couldn’t undertake the Pence Raiklin manouevre. Trump listened to all the arguments and then decided to do……..Nothing.

      Parkes reported this as Trump giving the various responsible parties one last chance to resolve matters peacefully and in accordance with the normal process as required by the Constitution. Parkes has been silent since then.

      Mike Adams on the other hand has gone on the offensive. He says the Trump has been betrayed by all around him, including his closest confidants (Pence, Meadows Cippilone) and that with each passing day the options are closed off leading up to Jan 6. If all else fails Mike Adams says the last line of defence is ‘We the People’ and has been posting since then about Patriots taking to the streets and defending their country and their homes. That becomes apocolyptic.

      Since then the Nashville car bomb has been exploded. It seems like someone is trying to force the pace. Is the Patriots or BLM/Antifa?

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      Tilba Tilba

      I don’t have a strong partisan view with respect to Trump versus Biden, but I am interested in US politics, and how their Constitution works (or doesn’t seem to work). So here is my two bob’s worth on the ten pathways as described:

      1. Declassify everything and expose Joe Biden as a criminal, treasonous puppet of the CCP, then arrest him for treason or offer him a pardon in exchange for Biden to concede.

      You would think that if there was anything to declassify that would fatally end Biden’s president-elect status, it would have been done by now. What is stopping them?

      2. Invoke 14th Amendment to strip electoral votes from states engaged in insurrection or rebellion against the United States.

      All 50 states (plus DC) have certified their Electoral College votes – I don’t see how the equal protection clause of the 14th Amendment could be invoked. The Constitution gives the states exclusive right to determine the manner in which electors are chosen.

      3. Appoint Sidney Powell special prosecutor, and allow her to issue subpoenas / search warrants and issue indictments against treasonous actors. Then acquire confessions.

      While I retain my non-partisan position, it’s hard not to conclude that Sidney Powell is way out of her depth in these matters … she and her team have not lodged one effective claim in a court.

      4. Activate the Insurrection Act and deploy the military seize ballots and voting machines, then conduct a recount under military authority.

      The top brass of the military have already (fairly clearly) stated they are not going to be involved in election matters … they might not co-operate. And it’s highly likely that any such invocation of the Insurrection Act would be rules unlawful.

      5. Invoke the Pence-Raiklin Maneuver: Have Pence reject electoral votes from states that certified fraudulent, illegal votes.

      It’s worth repeating, that VP Mike Pence presides at the Joint Session, but has no powers to decide which electoral votes are accepted or rejected – this is entirely in the province of both chambers, and they must both agree.

      6. Use the 2018 Executive Order on election interference to seize Big Tech and the legacy media, while arresting Biden and all complicit operators, charging them with treason. This would nullify the election and force a re-do.

      The Executive Order required a report on foreign interference last Thursday, and nothing has happened. What does this tell us?

      7. Roll out all the evidence of cyber warfare from China, declare the election an act of warfare against the United States, declare new elections to be held under military authority. (We the People Convention.)

      Just to repeat, it’s extremely unlikely the military will involve itself in election matters, and the president doesn’t have powers to declare the election to be anything … the states run elections.

      8. Invoke the National Emergency Broadcast System, seize control over the treasonous media, broadcast all the evidence of vote fraud and urge the American people to demand Congress vote for the Trump electors on Jan. 6th.

      The Democrats control the House and would reject any demands (and the Senate might well too), and in any case, the alternative Trump slates are not certified by state officials, and will lack any standing on 6 January.

      9. Convince state legislatures to revoke their Biden electoral slate, and by exposing irrefutable voter fraud, have those lawmakers certify a NEW slate of Trump electors.

      Donald Trump has been trying to pressure the states for six weeks, to no avail – they believe their elections were fair, and have all certified the electoral college votes. No state so far has given any indication they are going to re-visit certification, even if a special session could be called to do so.

      10. Achieve victory with SCOTUS in the Pennsylvania case, and then invalidate fraudulent post-Nov. 3rd votes in all the swing states.

      It seems unlikely that the Supreme Court will do anything prior to 6 Jan, and possibly not even before 20 Jan.

      It seems to me that Donald Trump has an extremely uphill battle on all these fronts to overturn the certified electoral votes, and the issue will be settled in Joe Biden’s favour on 6 January.

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    Chrism

    The Adam Schiff arrest story has been ‘debunked’ by argument rather than observation or comment : Lin Wood retweeted it : where is Schiff? On a ‘staycation’? How is the Intel handover going?

    I also heard that ‘whit hats’ had had a winning shootout of the ‘black hats’ prior to the Nashville explosion & the ‘black hats’ were running a false flag op & that Pelosi has sat on her posession of a copy of H Bidens hard drives

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      Peter C

      Thar is the first I have heard of the story.
      Here is a reference; https://realnse.com/2020/12/26/was-adam-schiff-arrested-at-lax/

      If true it is the FBI, but for what reason or purpose?

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        Chrism

        The reasons may be manifold; discussed elsewhere as it relates to international ‘conspiracy’ ultimately the military now have jurisdiction and AS will be tried militarily (if the claim is true) : that would likely be at gitmo – but a military op in LAX is a major red flag and likely to scare the flock & LAPD plus FBI is explicable as ‘protection’, I’m guessing … the rumors are that gitmo is the destination – so he did get his OS travel after all

        Nashville : the NSA data hub for Georgia (among other areas) was the traget & the operatives attacking the center were made inoperative

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        Curious George

        It seems too good to be true.

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    John F. Hultquist

    !! Weekend Unthreaded !!

    Seems the whole of 2020 has been unthreaded.
    Up here in central Washington State** we did
    not have snow Christmas morning.
    In early afternoon, snow began. 2 inches by 4:00.
    Snow continued into the night. Now up to 5 inches.
    Eastern USA has much more. They are welcome to it.

    **I always have to type the whole name because
    Western Australia and our State use the same WA.

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      Graeme No.3

      And Western Australia is bigger.

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        Graeme#4

        About three reptiles bigger than Texas?

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          Graeme#4

          Reptiles? Should have been “times”. Blasted auto-correct…

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            Laurie

            Reptiles was good! I got a laugh.

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              John, my sympathies on the WA thing. But Western Australia can really only be WA. 😉

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                Dave in the States

                Anciently the Chinese called Japan the land of Wa. It was actually a shortening of the native Japanese word Yawa. But the Chinese probably used Wa as an inside joke because in Chinese wa means midgets.

                Eventually, there became a Chinese accent to spoken native Japanese words, because Chinese was used in the Japanese court and academia, as the Japanese sent their best and brightest to study in China. In the Kanji the native pronunciation was called the Kun reading and Sino /Japanese pronunciation was called the on reading. The on reading for Yawa was mispronounced as Yamatai. This was incorrect in proper Japanese because in proper Japanese there can be no diphthongs. The ending of Yamatai was a diphthong.

                The on reading ending of Yamatai was corrected to a single consonant/vowel sound of to, by Japanese linguists of the time. By around 1200 Yamato replaced Yamatia, Yawa, and Wa.

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            sophocles

            Laurie is right.
            The ‘autocorrect’ failure was a nice touch of humour…

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      PeterPetrum

      Had a Zoom call to my (Biden loving) daughter in Seattle yesterday at 3:00 pm their time and it was not snowing then. Must have been lovely to watch it turn everything white!!

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    RicDre

    Golf Great Greg Norman in Hospital With COVID Symptoms

    Australian golfing great Greg Norman has been hospitalised in the United States showing COVID-19 symptoms.

    I hope he recovers quickly, when he played on the US Pro Tour he was one of my favorite golfers to watch. I got to see him play a couple of times at the Memorial Tournament in Dublin, Ohio USA.

    https://www.newsmax.com/newsfront/gregnorman-in-hospital-covid/2020/12/25/id/1003157/

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    RicDre

    Study suggests great earthquakes as cause of Arctic warming

    A researcher from MIPT has proposed a new explanation for the Arctic’s rapid warming. In his recent paper in Geosciences, he suggests that the warming could have been triggered by a series of great earthquakes.

    https://wattsupwiththat.com/2020/12/25/study-suggests-great-earthquakes-as-cause-of-arctic-warming/

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      Travis T. Jones

      Massive crater discovered under Greenland ice

      https://youtu.be/vTr3VdGlFr8

      Only a UN carbon (sic) tax can save us now.

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        sophocles

        The Hiawatha Glacier crater.
        We know about that one Travis.

        But you overlooked its older relative — yep, a nearby second crater:
        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zfqdoad5J7A
        or: NASA Just Discovered 2nd Crater Under The Greenland Glacier

        The age of the second crater (Hiawatha II) is currently thought to be anything from about 70,000 years to perhaps a million years old.

        From it’s initial dating, Hiawatha II is too old to be from the Taurid garbage stream but Hiawatha I could be. Younger Brother — Hiawatha I — is still a candidate for the Younger Dryas Catastrophe, namely about 12,000 YO (or 12,982 years ago). It’s suggested upper range is maybe around 100,000YA. I understand that has been brought down recently to around 50,000 YO max. But, neither crater has been accurately dated and are unlikely to be any time soon.

        With two craters up there, a UN Carbon tax couldn’t work because the Hiawatha area is obviously a targetted area, or LZ, for BRFS’s. (Big Rocks From Space)

        We’d have to run and hide … in Southern Turkey. It’s got Derinkuyu et al, just down/up the road from Gobekli Tepe.

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      William Astley

      It is not earthquakes that is causing cyclic planetary temperature change.

      It is what is causing the earthquakes. What causes earthquake frequency to change? What causes the tectonic plates to move? How do diamonds get from 80 km below the ground, to the surface, at 60 km/hr (in a Kimberlite tube)? What could change in the planet to cause a massive force to push the diamonds up the Kimberlite tube to the surface of the planet? The event (massive explosive release of 80 kilometers of Kimberlite tube material) that occurs in a few hours is what happens when a ‘Kimberlite’ tube brings diamonds to the surface of the earth. The event must be explosive, as diamonds will turn to ordinary carbon structure, if the diamond material moved slowly.

      Why are there hundreds and hundreds of thousand tubes in the planet that run down to the core? These ‘tubes’ were discovered by their seismic event reflections. It was known for many years that that there was a complex structure in the earth that was reflecting seismic waves. There was not however sufficient information for any, one seismic event, to determine the shape, of what was reflecting, the seismic waves generated from a large earthquake.

      About 4 years ago, a team cracked the problem, by using an AI technique that uses the information from every seismic event to determine the structure of the large structure that is reflecting seismic waves all over the planet. What was found was a complex structure of interconnecting tubes, with the system simplifying to tubes that run down to the core of the planet.

      It is these tubes that cause earthquakes. When the core of the planet solidifies, the CH4 that is bounded by metals at high pressure is extruded from the core of the planet. This CH4 binds to metals in the mantel. That property creates the shealth that forms the tubes. Liquid CH4 under super high pressure is what is pushed up the tube to push the ocean plates apart.

      So the discovery that there is real time changes to ocean plate earthquake frequency all over the world, means that rate of crystallization of the earth’s core is changing in real time by a large amount. There was a 300% increase in mid-ocean earthquakes all over the planet for about 20 years. And the frequency of the mid-ocean plate earthquakes, goes up and down extraordinarily quickly and stays high for no reason.

      There is a direct correlation in the frequency of small earthquakes that occur all of the time, ridges and real time planetary temperature changes.

      Part of the explanation is there is a massive amount of magma enters the ocean at the ocean ridges.

      The frequency of the earthquakes occurrence at the mid-ocean ridges correlates to the spreading rate of the ocean ridges plates. When there are more earthquakes the ocean plates move more.

      There is a jump in the frequency of small earthquakes, at the ocean ridges all over the planet, two years before El Nino events. This has happened 7 out of 8 times for the last 30 years.

      We are missing something that is interesting….

      All over the planet starting in 1994, there was suddenly a 300% increase in the frequency of earthquakes of magnitude 4 to 6 all along the ridges where the seafloor is being pushed apart.

      This increase in earthquakes is an increase in the force which move the tectonic plates.

      Post 1994, suddenly there are very large changes in the frequency of earthquake all over the planet.

      And these sudden changes in mid-ocean earthquake frequency, the graph of frequency of mid-ocean earthquakes all over the planet goes up and down) lead large planetary temperature changes by two years.

      https://www.omicsonline.org/open-access/have-global-temperatures-reached-a-tipping-point-2573-458X-1000149.pdf

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        William Astley

        The inner core nucleation paradox. This is an interesting paradox in geology. This is a hard paradox. The answer to this paradox explains what is causing mid-ocean ridge earthquake frequency all over the world to change in real time, simultaneously.

        Something is causing the earth’s liquid core to crystallize by reducing the barrier to of the liquid metals to crystallization…..

        The reduction in the barrier of the metals to crystallize, would if the reduction was due to temperature would require something to reduce the entire temperature (remove all of that heat energy) from the liquid core instantaneously by 1000 degrees Celsius.

        The mechanisms that is reducing the barrier to the metals crystallizing cannot be heat/temperature if it were temperature the core would be 1000 degrees colder which does not agree with 30 years of analysis.

        So, if the mid-ocean ridge earthquake frequency all over the planet is a direct proxy for the rate of crystallization of the core of the planet. Then what is causing the core of the planet to crystallize can change very quickly which would explain how it is possible that mid ocean earthquake frequency all over the world could increase by 300% for 30 years.

        Challenging core belief: Have we misunderstood how Earth’s solid center formed?
        Scientists question long-held understanding in new paper

        https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2018/02/180207151842.htm

        Summary:
        Researchers are posing an important question about the formation of planet Earth’s inner core, arguing that it’s time to consider the nucleation paradox at the heart of the issue.

        It is widely accepted that the Earth’s inner core formed about a billion years ago when a solid, super-hot iron nugget spontaneously began to crystallize inside a 4,200-mile-wide ball of liquid metal at the planet’s center.
        One problem: That’s not possible-or, at least, has never been easily explained-according to a new paper published in Earth and Planetary Science Letters from a team of scientists at Case Western Reserve University.

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          Chris

          Lets see them put a tax on that.

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          Kalm Keith

          A complexified system?
          Crystallization, mentioned two factors but why was pressure left out?
          Maybe that’s the opening for next year’s grant,

          🙂

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          Kalm Keith

          Hi William,

          there’s a lot of interesting detail in the two posts but I can’t get to the main point of focus.

          Didn’t go to the links because the extracts suggest that the “science” is overpowered by the descriptive powers of the authors with the images of subterranean vents full of diamonds being the focus.

          If the Earth, and other planetary material, was spun off about 1.3 million years ago it would have started life as a molten blob with a temperature of 5,000°C or higher.
          The surroundings, by and large, would have a degree or so above absolute zero, say minus 272°C.

          The crust has cooled but forms a barrier to further heat/energy loss at the initial cooling rate and core cooling is much slower now.

          I’m fascinated by the overall cooling process but am not sure what these academics are doing.

          KK

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            William Astley

            Hi Kalm Keith,

            This is an excerpt from the study, that explains the mechanism where an increase in magma released when the rate at which the mid-ocean ridge is pushed apart increase, causes changes that cause temperature changes two years later in regions. This mechanism explains why ocean and surface regions change in different geological regions at the same time, repeatedly.

            In 1997, (if you look at the graph) there was a 300% increase in mid-ocean earthquake frequency all over the planet. Leading the El Nino event. A comparison of temperature changes to mid-ocean frequency (with an adjustment of two years) and the two signals have the same profile and the author calculates the two signals are highly correlated.

            https://www.omicsonline.org/open-access/have-global-temperatures-reached-a-tipping-point-2573-458X-1000149.pdf

            Two previous studies, The Correlation of Seismic Activity and Recent Global Warming (CSARGW) and the Correlation of Seismic Activity and Recent Global Warming: 2016 Update (CSARGW16), documented a high correlation between mid-ocean seismic activity and global temperatures from 1979 to 2016 [1,2].

            As detailed in those studies, increasing seismic activity in these submarine volcanic complexes is a proxy indicator of heightened underwater geothermal flux, a forcing mechanism that destabilizes the overlying water column. This forcing accelerates the thermohaline circulation while enhancing thermobaric convection [3-6]. This, in turn, results in increased heat transport into the Arctic (i.e., the “Arctic Amplification”), a prominent feature of earth’s recent warming [7-9].

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              Kalm Keith

              Thanks, so they’re more towards ocean floor volcanism, it’s periodicity and effects on ocean movement: that’s useful.

              The bit I found to be more fluff and entertainment than substance was the making a mystery of the “crystallization” of the molten core.

              The statement: “One problem: That’s not possible-or, at least, has never been easily explained-according to a new paper”,
              just seems to be strange when there’s no mystery at all about it.

              Given that there’s almost 2,000 miles of previously solidified material sitting over the mysterious core it seems like a beat up to point at the continuation of the cooling and call it a mystery. 🙂

              But we are in 2020, one of the strangest years I’ve lived through.

              KK

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                William Astley

                Hi Kalm Keith,

                Here is more. There are too, too many weird paradoxes. Or just the right number of weird paradoxes, to enable the ‘problem’ to be solved.

                What is interesting in the case of the earth, the paradoxes/weird are simple to explain (easy to explain than astronomical observations) to a general audience and there are sufficient paradoxes, that using high school logic, no math, a group can crack the problem, solve the problem conceptually.

                So park for a second what is causing the earth’s core to crystallize. There needs to be a physical explanation as to what is causing the ocean plates to spread apart.

                And we know the force that is causing the ocean plates to spread apart is changing in real time to explain the 300% increase in earthquakes at the mid-ocean ridges. There are fractures at the ridges that are parallel to the edge of the ridges. So the liquid CH4 that is pushed in the tube creates the fractures and pushes the ocean plate towards the continent.

                This tube concept can also explains why (the physical existence of tubes) there are tubes in the mantel that reflected the seismic waves produced by large earthquakes. Everything that exists or happens must have a physical explanation.

                This concept that CH4 is being extrude by the immense force in the earth; and because the CH4 binds to metals in the mantel, a sheath forms about the CH4 keeping it in the tube and transmitting the core force right up to surface of the planet to push the continents. The earth’s core started to crystallize about a billion years ago.

                At that time the CH4 that is pushed in the tubes would terraform the earth. That explains why advanced life did not start on the earth (for billion and billions of years) until there were deep oceans on the earth.

                “In the beginning, life was small. For billions of years, all life on Earth was microscopic, consisting mostly of single cells.”

                The CH4 that is extruded out of the earth’s core, in the millions of tubes, is the reason why there are hydrocarbons on the surface of the earth, why water covers 70% of the surface of the earth, and is the force that moves the continents. If the earth crystallizes 300% faster there will be 300% more CH4 pushed in the tubes which will cause the plates to move faster which explains the increase in earthquakes at the mid ocean ridges, simultaneously all over the planet.

                For example, there are three solid deposits of hydrocarbons in the Alberta Canada, the three heavy deposits each, are 60 to 80 meters thick, and in total, cover an the area equivalent to the UK. This single hydrocarbon deposit could provide all of the US hydrocarbon needs for 80 years. The Canadian ‘heavy’ oil deposit is full of heavy metals. The heavy the oil (more dense, less hydrogen) the more heavy metals are found.

                Natural gas, oil, and bituminous coal all come from the same source the CH4 that is extruded from the core. Thomas Gold, in his book, has roughly 50 independent observations to prove that point.

                So the CH4 is constantly being pushed up onto the surface of the earth even now. The CH4 bond is broken by UV light and CH4 in the atmosphere changes to the stable CO2 and H20. This explains why human CO2 emissions are not responsible for the recent atmospheric CO2 rise. There is a large sink of CO2 into the deep ocean of biological material.

                http://eprints.whiterose.ac.uk/416/1/gubbinsd4.pdf

                Is the geodynamo process intrinsically unstable?

                Recent palaeomagnetic studies suggest that excursions of the geomagnetic field, during which the intensity drops suddenly by a factor of 5 to 10 and the local direction changes dramatically, are more common than previously expected. The `normal’ state of the geomagnetic field, dominated by an axial dipole, seems to be interrupted every 30 to 100 kyr; it may not therefore be as stable as we thought. We have investigated a possible mechanism for the instability of the geodynamo by calculating the critical Rayleigh number (Rc) for the onset of convection in a rotating spherical shell permeated by an imposed magnetic field with both toroidal and poloidal components.

                What Caused Recent Acceleration of the North Magnetic Pole Drift?

                http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1029/2010EO510001/pdf

                The north magnetic pole (NMP) is the point at the Earth’s surface where the geomagnetic field is directed vertically downward. It drifts in time as a result of core convection, which sustains the Earth’s main magnetic field through the geodynamo process. During the 1990s the NMP drift speed suddenly increased from 15 kilometers per year at the start of the decade to 55 kilometers per year by the decade’s end. This acceleration was all the more surprising given that the NMP drift speed had remained less than 15 kilometers per year over the previous 150 years of observation. Why did NMP drift accelerate in the 1990s?

                What happened on 570 million years ago for the earth ….
                To produce the ‘first’ deep oceans on the earth?
                There is an old unsolved paradox to explain Cambrian Explosion of advance life, 570 million years ago.

                https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2018/12/181212134354.htm

                Why deep oceans gave life to the first big, complex organisms

                Why did the first big, complex organisms spring to life in deep, dark oceans where food was scarce? A new study finds great depths provided a stable, life-sustaining refuge from wild temperature swings in the shallows.

                In the beginning, life was small. For billions of years, all life on Earth was microscopic, consisting mostly of single cells.

                Then suddenly, about 570 million years ago, complex organisms including animals with soft, sponge-like bodies up to a meter long sprang to life. And for 15 million years, life at this size and complexity existed only in deep water.

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                Kalm Keith

                William, that was big.

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        robert rosicka

        And here’s me believing the earthquakes are caused by increased C02 from fossil fuel emissions .

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    RicDre

    Study: Dangerous Global Warming Could Occur by 2027

    We laughed when Alexandria Occasio Cortez claimed that the world would end in 12 years. According to a new climate study, AOC is an optimist; we might only have seven years. But the authors appear to make some fairly pessimistic assumptions to achieve that prognosis.

    As usual, its worse than we thought.

    https://wattsupwiththat.com/2020/12/26/study-dangerous-global-warming-could-occur-by-2027/

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      Dennis

      What happened to the earlier modelling, badly flawed creatively accounted and no longer fit for purpose?

      So Plan B: The Great Reset

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    RicDre

    National Journal on Possible Trump Submission of Paris Climate Treaty to Senate

    Only months after taking office in 2017, Trump, accompanied by then-Environmental Protection Agency Administrator Scott Pruitt, launched the Paris withdrawal process to conservative fanfare in the White House Rose Garden. According to the terms of the pact, the U.S. formalized that withdrawal a day after Americans wrapped up voting in the 2020 electoral cycle.

    But now conservative critics of the accord, both on and off Capitol Hill, want more from Trump in the waning weeks of his presidency…The push for Trump to submit the ratification documents is sparking a messaging war over whether it would actually have any legal bearing on Biden’s engagement with the pact.

    https://wattsupwiththat.com/2020/12/26/national-journal-on-possible-trump-submission-of-paris-climate-treaty-to-senate/

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    graham dunton

    Lord Christopher Monckton, setting them straight a Heartland podcast, so enjoy.
    The Lancet Publishes Alarmist Climate Article (Guest: Lord Christopher Monckton)
    The prominent medical journal The Lancet recently published an article which falsely claimed climate change was harming human health. Lord Christopher Monckton responded to that article citing copious research showing, in fact, a slightly warmer world is a boon for human health, with premature deaths related to weather and natural disasters falling dramatically over the past century. The Lancet is harming its reputation among medical professionals with this flawed article, while simultaneously burnishing its credentials with climate Marxists and authoritarians.
    Show more

    https://soundcloud.com/user-694711047/the-lancet-publishes-alarmist-climate-article-guest-lord-christopher-monckton

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      OriginalSteve

      Heres the thing…people like ISIS have engineers etc amongst their members.

      The point us that education is not a protection against radicalization.

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    Travis T. Jones

    Global Warming causes more rain?

    But, but … Tim Flannery.
    He said global warming would cause less rain …

    Burrunan dolphin deaths linked to Fresh Water Skin Disease caused by [global warming]
    23 Dec, 2020

    “What we know from comparing to similar situations across the world, is that these outbreaks always occur after sudden heavy rainfall, which makes us very concerned that we’re going to see an increase of FWSD in dolphins that live in low-lying areas and are vulnerable to worsening [global warming],” she said.”

    https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-12-22/gippsland-lakes-burrunan-dolphins-and-skin-disease/13004280

    Flannery issues global warming warning
    Sat 11 Jun 2005,

    TIM FLANNERY: Well, I’m afraid that the science around [global warming] is firming up fairly quickly, and what we’ve seen is three major phenomena that are depriving Australia of its rainfall.

    https://www.abc.net.au/lateline/flannery-issues-global-warming-warning/1590650

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      el gordo

      If Flummery had bothered to do some real research he would have discovered that the global warming of late last century was natural.

      The Pacific Decadal Oscillation became cool from 1890 to 1915, warm from 1915 to 1945, cool from 1945 to 1977, warm from 1977 to 2000, and cool from 2001 to 2014, so the next 15 years should be cool and wet.

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      el gordo

      There has also been chatter that the PDO is related to the Hale Cycle which sets the 20 to 30 years aperiodicity. This also appears to be linked to the Gleissberg Cycle.

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      PTR

      There hasn’t been any “sudden heavy rainfall” as described, in the Lakes region or catchment for this to have happened.

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    David Wojick

    A nice summary of Biden’s proposed Climate Gang:
    https://www.cfact.org/2020/12/26/gop-senate-must-red-light-bidens-radical-green-appointees/

    I have coined the term “climate emergency central planner” or CECP.

    A target rich environment is emerging and we are warriors.

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      Dave in the States

      The idea has been floated to put up the Paris treaty for approval ASAP then it will be rejected for good. The risk is, of course, the RINO Mitts, might just end up approving it.

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    David Maddison

    I posted this a year ago so the numbers may be a little out of date.

    I did the following exercise.

    I added up the total capacity of coal power plants in Australia as listed in Wikipedia = 24,767MW for 20 plants so average size per plant of 1,238MW.

    There are also 94 visually and audio polluting wind subsidy farms of total nameplate capacity of 5,679MW (representing 2,506 stinking windmills). Now, since the capacity factor is only 30-35%, this means the true total windmill output is just 1,703-1,988MW or a mere 18MW to 21MW per subsidy farm.

    Another way to look at it is the total true capacity of all Australian wind subsidy farms is only 37% to 60% bigger than just ONE proper power station.

    It hardly seems worth destroying our economy for, does it?

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      RickWill

      Another way to look at it is the total true capacity of all Australian wind subsidy farms is only 37% to 60% bigger than just ONE proper power station.

      That grossly over estimates the ability of wind farms. Their guaranteed capacity is exactly ZERO.

      Their potential benefit is saving a little coal or gas.

      When SA separated from Victoria in February 2020, the first step was to shut down all the wind turbines. AEMO took control of the batteries and they were held at 50% charge to give them maximum capacity to cope either way. The grid solar farms were also ordered off.

      The only way SA achieves its high level of intermittent generation is through its interconnection with Victoria. More battery capacity and synchronous condensers will improve the situation in the state but they just add to the overall network cost.

      It is evident that SA wholesale price has come down significantly in the last year – reportedly now at 2011 level. Who living in SA has had a reduction in their electricity price?

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    David Maddison

    So many people today have forgotten how free enterprise economics works, or they are indifferent or hostile to it. It might be worthwhile over the holiday period to watch Professor Milton Friedman’s 1980 series, “Free to Choose”.

    https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PL4742023192B69941

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    David Maddison

    Excellent short 3.5 minute video comparing Leftism and Conservatism in a novel way.

    https://youtu.be/5M647_NNCk4

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      RicDre

      “Excellent short 3.5 minute video comparing Leftism and Conservatism in a novel way.”

      Here’s my even shorter summary:

      Conservatives believes if you teach a person to fish they will be able to feed themselves for the rest of their lives. Progressives believe if you give a person a fish they will have to keep voting for Progressives if they want to keep getting their fish.

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    OldOzzie

    ‘Borrow-and-spend’ stimulus bill is a fiscal monstrosity

    The 5,000-page, $900 billion fiscal “stimulus” legislation passed by Congress on Monday is not a jobs bill, and it will do far more short- and long-term damage to the U.S. economy than good. Why is it that “bipartisanship” in Washington these days means that Republicans and Democrats agree to spend and borrow? Fiscal conservatives in Congress should have rejected this debt bill.

    One of the worst features of the bill is the $300-a-week supplemental unemployment benefit (raised by only $25 in the 2009 recession under President Obama) which will deter work and reduce employment by as much as 3 million jobs, according to a study by University of Chicago economist Casey Mulligan. Half of all unemployed workers will receive more money in unemployment benefits and food stamps than they would earn for working. This is, in reality, an anti-employment measure.

    The $600 checks — free cash! — to Americans are simply a form of “helicopter money” that redistributes income and reduces the rewards for working and producing. The tens of billions of bailout funds for airlines, theaters, the entertainment industry and other businesses force taxpayers to fund losses that should be absorbed by shareholders. The $16 billion of funds for bankrupt urban transit systems are a massive bailout to New York and other big cities, whose mayors have shuttered local businesses and restricted travel. The roads and highway construction get less than half the transportation dollars, even though cars carry ten times more passengers than 20th century bus and rail systems.

    There also is a smorgasbord of spending for universities and schools ($82 billion) whose employees didn’t suffer any income losses, day care centers ($10 billion), museums, substance abuse programs, broadband funding ($7 billion), and rental assistance ($25 billion). Far more thick pieces of bacon are hidden inside the thousands of pages of fine print in this bill than we or anyone else even knows about at this point. These monstrosities will come to light long after Congress voted its approval.

    Congress sure is generous when it comes to spending other people’s money.

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      C. Paul Barreira

      “Spending other people’s money.” Should that read “creating ‘intergenerational debt'”? From memory, the phrase came from the late John McCain in one of his better, latter day moments.

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        Yonniestone

        I love the WIP OldOzzie but I have to say to Jo and the Mods WTF!, I went through a heap of censorship regarding posting a link to TWIP to the point I gave up even though people including the Mods loved it, I hope OldOzzie is allowed to do it but feeling a p&ssed off ATM.

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      OldOzzie

      Rage Against The Machine – It’s Simple Really, President Trump Asks Legislative Branch to Use COVID Relief to Help Americans No-One Else

      As noted yesterday, a simple COVID relief bill for American workers is really not a big problem… except it is… because the DC system is not structured around simply helping Americans first. The legislative machinery is owned by K-Street and multinationals who pay for the outcomes they alone create.

      A people’s president, Donald Trump, cuts through the chaff and countermeasures:

      President Trump wants congress to re-write the $900 billion COVID bill to provide $2,000 per person instead of $600 per person. In essence Trump is asking for a stand alone COVID relief bill for $2k/person, then drop the $600/person payment out of the pork-laden COVID relief bill and start that economic relief bill over.

      This is not a hard issue to resolve. The only reason UniParty congress is fighting Trump is because the lobbyist and foreign government bribes are part of the $900 billion and will not pass the scrutiny of public opinion if standing alone. Once you see the strings on the marionettes you can never return to that moment in time when you did not see them.

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      Ian

      In your post of 7.34 am you write

      “One of the worst features of the bill is the $300-a-week supplemental unemployment benefit (raised by only $25 in the 2009 recession under President Obama) which will deter work and reduce employment by as much as 3 million jobs, according to a study by University of Chicago economist Casey Mulligan.

      Half of all unemployed workers will receive more money in unemployment benefits and food stamps than they would earn for working. This is, in reality, an anti-employment measure.
      The $600 checks — free cash! — to Americans are simply a form of “helicopter money” that redistributes income and reduces the rewards for working and producing.

      Then at 10.07 you write:

      “President Trump wants congress to re-write the $900 billion COVID bill to provide $2,000 per person instead of $600 per person. In essence Trump is asking for a stand alone COVID relief bill for $2k/person, then drop the $600/person payment out of the pork-laden COVID relief bill and start that economic relief bill over.”

      The bill provides for a $US600 payment to most Americans, but Mr Trump said he was asking Congress to amend the bill and “increase the ridiculously low $600 to $2,000, or $4,000 for a couple”.

      How do you reconcile the two statements?

      Surely if $600 reduces the rewards for working and producing, $2000 will reduce working and producing even further.

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    David Maddison

    Now the climate change catastrophist are trying to build a wooden cargo ship. Just chop down some more virgin rainforest.

    https://www.bbc.com/future/article/20201117-clean-shipping-the-carbon-negative-cargo-boats-made-of-wood

    The shipping industry’s climate impact is large and growing, but a team in Costa Rica is making way for a clean shipping revolution with a cargo ship made of wood.

    In a small, rustic shipyard on the Pacific coast of Costa Rica, a small team is building what they say will be the world’s largest ocean-going clean cargo ship.

    Ceiba is the first vessel built by Sailcargo, a company trying to prove that zero-carbon shipping is possible, and commercially viable. Made largely of timber, Ceiba combines both very old and very new technology: sailing masts stand alongside solar panels, a uniquely designed electric engine and batteries. Once on the water, she will be capable of crossing oceans entirely without the use of fossil fuels.

    “The thing that sets Ceiba apart is the fact that she’ll have one of the largest marine electric engines of her kind in the world,” Danielle Doggett, managing director and cofounder of Sailcargo, tells me as we shelter from the hot sun below her treehouse office at the shipyard. The system also has the means to capture energy from underwater propellers as well as solar power, so electricity will be available for the engine when needed. “Really, the only restrictions on how long she can stay at sea is water and food on board for the crew.”

    (SEE LINK FOR REST)

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      John F. Hultquist

      ” a cargo ship made of wood ”

      A great idea, search-up ‘ Dhow ‘.

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      Kalm Keith

      Christiana Figu comes from Costa Rica, what an interesting coincidence.
      I’m sure nobody in her family owns forests or shipyards.

      KK

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      William

      I guess there will be plenty of water to extinguish the fire caused by the battery.

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      William

      Also, if they want to expand and have massive fleets of wooden cargo ships, just remember the denuding of England’s great forests before their merchant and naval fleets moved on from that old technology.

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      Chad

      Made largely of timber, Ceiba combines both very old and very new technology: sailing masts stand alongside solar panels, a uniquely designed electric engine and batteries. Once on the water, she will be capable of crossing oceans entirely without the use of fossil fuels

      Possibly,..if the wind is favorable !
      Otherwise i would like to see the solar powered wessel that can push significant freight weight into a typical ocean storm.
      Tis has to be one of the least thought out proposals of the “Green Team” …there are so many impracticalities oround it,..it is simply a news grab.

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    OldOzzie

    Flying to Morocco: Biden should follow Trump’s path to Arab-Israeli peace

    BY AHMED CHARAI, OPINION CONTRIBUTOR

    History was made Tuesday when the first direct flight from Tel Aviv, Israel’s commercial capital, touched down in Rabat, Morocco’s capital.

    This flight was the first visible sign of the new relationship between Morocco and Israel, opening a new era of diplomatic recognition, cross-border investment, tourism and trade. Morocco is now the fourth Arab country to conclude new diplomatic agreements with Israel in as many months.

    On board was Jared Kushner, leading a delegation of U.S. officials. Mr. Kushner’s unique approach — uniting economies to create shared prosperity, instead of starting with the nettlesome issues of drawing border lines — differed sharply from that of more than 40 years of diplomatic efforts attempted by Arabs, Israelis, Europeans and Americans. It was initially dismissed, but it has now borne fruit.

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    OldOzzie

    Defining Image of 2020: Absurd Dems Kneeling in Kente Cloth

    Tom Slater, Spiked

    For me, the defining image of 2020 was also the funniest: that of Democratic lawmakers in the US taking the knee, in solidarity with the Black Lives Matter movement, draped in Ghanaian kente cloth

    Watching thoroughly establishment politicians, House speaker Nancy Pelosi and Senate minority leader Chuck Schumer to the fore, literally kneeling before the new woke politics was striking. It provoked so many questions, not least if Pelosi and Schumer (80 and 70 respectively) would be able to rise again unassisted.

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      John R Smith

      Question …
      when was the last time ya saw a group of 70+ year old people kneel on one knee for any length of time, much less 8 minutes?
      Pelosi is 80.
      The American people, actually the people of the world, deserve to know what her diet and exercise program is.
      Ice cream?
      Maybe ya gotta go with the gourmet.
      And lots of it.

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    OldOzzie

    From the Link – Truth

    The problem that we have is that fossil fuels are still too damn cheap – Lucy Gilliam

    Plus

    Ceiba is small for a cargo ship – tiny in fact. She will carry around nine standard shipping containers. The largest conventional container ships today carry more than 20,000 containers.

    She is also relatively slow.

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      PeterS

      Fossils fuels would be cheaper still if they didn’t slap on such draconian taxes. If they then applied the same taxes on renewables, well who would even bother with them? No one!

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    Another Ian

    “FBI Identifies Person of Interest in Nashville Bombing, Press Conference Video”

    https://theconservativetreehouse.com/2020/12/26/fbi-identifies-person-of-interest-in-nashville-bombing-press-conference-video/

    “From the “Yugo of Law Enforcement agencies”

    BUT

    https://populist.press/alarming-details-of-nashville-suspect/

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      OriginalSteve

      Saw a video of it…allegedly….shows a clear missle exhaust trail….

      Hmm….kind of like the mysterious disappearing “aircraft” that plowed into the Pentagon….

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    RickWill

    Many people show concern for the US government debt that has reached $27.5tr.

    Debt denominated in the sovereign currency can never default. Just create more money with a few keystrokes. It is money that NEVER needs to be paid back.

    The problem with US debt is that foreigners hold $18tr of the US debt. That is their net position. Fundamentally US is beholden to the rest of the world in a big way. That is almost a full year of total economic output for the USA.

    Take as an example China. China has sold a lot of stuff to USA. US has given them USDs for all that stuff. So the Chinese have a dilemma. All these USDs and not much to do with them. The Japanese built car plants in the USA so US workers could keep sending profits back to Japan so the Japanese could live well in their old age. China bypassed that long road and bought an election instead! China will now set the the rules in the USA. I expect there will be policy galore that favour China.

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    David Maddison

    Notice how climate change catastrophists all have expensive waterfront properties?

    In Australia: Turnbull, Flannery
    In US: Kerry, Obama, Gore, Gates.

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    David Maddison

    As mentioned above the Left/anti-scientists are now pursuing wooden container ships.

    The first model will carry 9 containers. Here are some facts about container ships (modern steel ones not wooden ones):

    https://www.worldshipping.org/about-the-industry/liner-ships/container-ship-design

    QUOTE
    A recent study by Lloyd’s Register found that the fuel efficiency of container ships (4,500 TEU capacity) has improved 35% between 1985 and 2008.

    It is estimated that on average a container ship emits around 40 times less CO2 than a large freight aircraft and over three times less than a heavy truck.

    Container shipping is estimated to be two and a half times more energy efficient than rail and 7 times more so than road.
    END QUOTE

    Also, in 1968 a ship could carry 1530 TEU, in 2018, 22000. TEU stands for 20 foot equivalent container.

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    wal1957

    Instagram…new terms of service. Video by JP.

    This bloke is good. Well worth the watch.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VhSX7IzHkrE

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    RicDre

    Inside The Bayesian Priory

    Here are a few random quotes and thoughts about the paper called An observation-based scaling model for climate sensitivity estimates and global projections to 2100.

    https://wattsupwiththat.com/2020/12/26/inside-the-bayesian-priory/

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      Peter C

      Yes. Thanks Rick.

      Another essay by Willis Eschenbach. Now I want to say right up that even though I might disagree with Willis on one or two matters, I still find his writing both entertaining and profound.

      Entertaining; Well first the Title; ‘Inside the Bayesian Priory’. A Priory is a religious institution of Monks and bespeaks a devotion to dogma, which was intentional on Willis’s part but there was a double entendre because he was also referring to the Bayesian theory which adjusts the odds given some initial information; known as priors.

      Profound; Well this statement.

      Picasso said

      “What good are computers? They can only give you answers …

      At first I didn’t either understand this or believe it. I mean, I’m a computer guy, why is a painter questioning my computer use? … but eventually I saw that looking for the right answers is not what we should be doing. What we should be focusing on instead is looking for the right questions. As the old saying goes, “Ask a stupid question, get a stupid answer.”

      And tragically, the IPCC at its inception was asked the wrong question. When IPCC was first set up, it was tasked to answer the question:

      “What level of CO2 is dangerous to humanity??”

      In fact, they should have been tasked to answer the question:

      “Is increasing CO2 a danger to humanity?”

      Willis refocuses on a very important point.

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    OldOzzie

    Delingpole: German Economist Says ‘Great Reset Will Cause a Crash Worse than 1930s’

    The Great Reset is real, it’s happening now and will lead to devastation worse — “much, much worse” — than the Weimar Republic, a German economist has warned.

    Dr Antony Mueller, Professor of Economics at the Federal University of Sergipe in Brazil, says that the Chinese coronavirus ‘pandemic’ is being used as cover by the globalist elite to destroy small businesses and hasten a new world order based on “expertocracy, climate green religion, and brutal depopulation”.

    This globalist elite — inspired by the World Economic Forum’s ‘Build Back Better’ campaign for a ‘Fourth Industrial Revolution’ and by the United Nations’ Agenda 2030 — are killing Main Street, together with thousands of jobs, by keeping economies across the Western World in near-permanent lockdown.

    “Most people have not noticed yet because at the moment governments can afford to give them subsidies and welfare payments. But the question is: ‘For how long?’ We know this money is coming to an end and that it will soon be over. Next you will see massive unemployment all over Europe as one country pulls down another country.”

    The coming economic crisis will be worse than any the world has seen before because all the countries in the Western world will become impoverished simultaneously and be unable to help one another.

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    Every day of the year, the time of largest power consumption is mostly around that time between 5.30PM and 7.30PM, remaining high out to around 9.30PM or so. That’s because that’s the time when everyone gets home from School, AND also home from work. Everything in the home gets turned on, the chores get done, clothes are washed and then dried, meals are cooked, and residential power consumption spikes to the highest level for the day, and hey, notice something. The Sun has gone down, so there’s no power from rooftop solar. It’s all from the grid. all of it. It’s most visible when you look at the Load Curve for actual power consumption in Winter, and you see that large rise in power consumption at that time, as well as the smaller one in the early morning, incidentally again in the homes, before everyone goes to work and school. In the Summer Months, those two rises are there still, but they are hidden by HVAC power consumption in those huge buildings as the huge rooftop units now turned to cooling try to cool down the insides of all those building, and schools, so in the middle of the day, there is now an extra 5000MW to 8000MW PLUS power consumption, but those two time critical residential rises still exist.

    So, the call is out, telling us that rooftop solar power is taking over, and can deliver that power needed, well, something it will not even get close to. However, what it has done is to reinforce the idea that the only power consumed is in fact residential, when, in actual fact, no one looks at the wider picture, because residential power is barely 30% to 35% at most of total power consumption. It’s all down to the personal level, a form of guilt trip if you will, you know, it’s what ….. YOU consume.

    Now here we have Christmas Day, that one single day of the year to point at and show, and to prove that point, that Residential power is as huge as it’s made out to be, so we CAN all see it, so those who tell us this can point to and say … well there it is.

    EVERYONE is at home, no work, no school, no shops, no nothing anywhere, except in homes across the Country, so theoretically, that residential power consumption will in fact be off the map high, because instead of turning everything off before going to work and school, and then turning it all on again, plus many more things in the home late in the day to add to power consumption, then instead of that, it all just gets left on. In fact, it’s even higher, because now it’s Summer, and the airconditioning gets left on all day, exacerbated by people coming in and out of the home all day, so the compressor runs more often, the highest power consumer of all in the home. The fridge runs high on power consumption, open and closed throughout the day. The pool pump works flat out as the pool gets used so much. The cooking all gets done in across most of the day. Every device in the home is either operating or charging. Entertainment devices are all on.

    Everything in the home that works on electrical power is on ….. for the whole of the day, not just for a small spike in the morning and a large spike in the evening.

    Residential power consumption is the single highest total it reaches on this one day, and we can look at it, and nod our heads and those knowledgeable commentators can say how we told you so.

    Just point at the power consumption and say, well, there you have it ….. fait accompli.

    Okay, so now read the next part of this Christmas story below this.

    Tony.

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    The most significant thing on this one day of the year, besides the fact that it was Christmas Day, was that on this one day of the year,

    overall total power consumption across Australia for the whole day has been the absolute LOWEST for the whole year.

    There has been no day in this last year when power consumption has been lower.

    The total power consumption for this one day was just 472GWH. Just three days earlier that total power consumption for the day was almost 19% higher, and keep in mind here that Christmas Day fell on a week day this year, and not on a weekend day of normally lower power consumption.

    The average daily power consumption for the last 12 Months has been 556GWH, so the average for this day was 15.1% lower than that.

    However, Christmas in Australia is almost Mid Summer, so the daily average for the complete Summer three month period (last Summer 2019/20) was 578.6GWH, so the average for this day was 18.5% LOWER than that average, and that is a huge fall in overall power consumption. The Peak for the day, the highest point in power consumption for the day, was a whopping 5850MW lower than the Summer average, down by almost 22%, and that’s a monumental drop for just this one day. Even the minimum power consumption, the Base Load, which has a year round average of 18000MW, and that’s at around 4AM each and every morning when almost everyone is sound asleep, well that shows that on this day even that indicator was lower than the Summer average (a little higher) by ten percent.

    All of this is NOTHING NEW.

    It has been the same every year I have looked, so I knew this was going to be the case. This is that one anomalous day in the year when every argument by green supporters (when it comes to power consumption, and more importantly, power generation) can be negated, because it demonstrates that despite calls for rooftop solar power to take over the supply of power, actual power consumption is more critical in the non residential sector, because on this one day of the year, supposedly everyone is at home, so in fact, across the day, this is the highest day of residential power consumption, and what it shows, and shows EVERY year is that this one day is far and away the lowest day for power consumption in the whole year.

    EVERY indicator is lower, and not ….. just lower, but far and away the lowest for the year.

    And the low days for the year, are ….. ALL OF THEM, weekends, and hey notice something there also. It’s when most people are home from work and school, but because some workplaces, and sporting places are open on weekends, those weekend days are higher than on Christmas Day, and weekends are always well down on the five working week days.

    And rooftop solar, well, very little, if any, got fed back to the local areas on these days, because those with rooftop panels were not only using their own power, but grid power as well.

    Christmas Day, the day of lowest power consumption for the year. Each and every year.

    Tony.

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      David Maddison

      Great comments Tony.

      Also, did you notice any unusual power consumption or surplus due to Covid lockdowns?

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        Ah, yes, and thank you David for asking this question:

        Also, did you notice any unusual power consumption or surplus due to Covid lockdowns?

        and I say that in direct reference to Comment 29.2 directly below this, how large figures can be made to look small.

        There has indeed been a distinct variation in power consumption this year.

        That change is that this year, the whole of Australia has consumed, wait for this ….. a full HALF OF ONE PERCENT less power than for the previous year.

        A half a percent.

        Absolutely nothing at all, eh!

        This year still has four days to run, but overall this year, Australia will consume 204TWH of power.

        In 2019, Australia consumed 205.5TWH of power.

        So, the reduction was just that tiny 1.5TWH. Nothing really.

        1.5TWH, or 1,500GWH, or 1,500,000MWH or 1,500,000,000KWH or 242,000 average Australian homes.

        Power consumption this year will be the same as it was for 2018.

        Power consumption has been increasing by around half a percent a year steadily for the last six or seven years, just an increment of 1TWH a year, some a tiny bit more, but steadily increasing.

        However, this year, power consumed in Industry and the Commerce sector has fallen as most of those work places, especially in Commerce (which also includes schools) were closed for parts of the year. People worked from home, so Residential power consumption rose and rose a lot, but not enough to make up for the loss in total in those other two sectors.

        Tony.

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      Okay then, now you’ve had a chance to read it and comprehend, can you see here how when it comes to electrical power generation, everything is in relatively small increments, and that’s where a lot of people get caught out, especially economists, you know, those noted experts on everything to do with electrical power generation, oh, and ABC Rural reporters who say you know, coal is dead!

      As I said, everything is in small increments, like the difference between daily overall power generation data where the overall power consumption on a daily basis across all of Australia varies by one to one and a half percent on a weekday daily basis, say just five to seven GigaWattHours, so, hey that’s not all that much really, is it?

      So, when I say that the difference between Christmas Day and the Summer average is just 18.5%, that may ….. ‘seem’ to be not all that much, and perhaps even the difference between the actual figures for Christmas Day’s 472GWH and the Summer average of 578.6GWH is barely just over 100GWH, so again, it still seems like not all that much.

      Okay, so let’s look at it a different way then.

      The average Australian home consumes 17.5KWH of power a day.

      That difference of 106.6GigaWattHours on this one day is ….. 106,600,000KWH, so a difference of 6,100,000 Australian homes. (these figures are calculated on that one Christmas Day daily basis)

      See now how ‘commentators’ can snow you to think, hey, it’s not all that much we’re talking about here.

      Now look at these ACTUAL Australian figures.

      Actual power delivered on a year round basis by FOUR renewables in total. (Hydro, wind, commercial Solar, and rooftop solar) – 49,000GWH.

      Actual yearly generated Power needed to meet the absolute minimum daily power consumption, that 18000MW Base Load – 157,800GWH.

      The difference – 108,800,000,000KWH a year, or more ridiculously 17 Million Australian homes. (converted from the yearly usage rate)

      Commentators rely on the average Australian to be , umm, maths challenged, when really, they themselves need to look in the mirror to see who really is maths challenged.

      Everything, everything to do with electrical power is in monumentally huge numbers brought down to ‘look’ small ….. ish

      Tony.

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        PeterS

        Can’t fault your analysis but it still doesn’t alter the situation. Western governments, big business and the bankers are dead set on reducing emissions our by way of renewables. They will not listen to the facts such as those you present, nor will the public because they by and large are convinced the governments are doing the right thing on the advise of so called “experts”. They will have to learn their lesson the hard way. We who do know the truth will just have to be prepared for what comes.

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        Robber

        From the OpenNEM website, the highest weekly demand for electricity generation in 2020 was:
        4,450 GWh (Jan 27-Feb 2) or 26,490 MW per hour
        And the lowest weekly demand: 3,558 GWh (Apr 13-19)
        Lowest Solar 200 GWh (May 18-24) equals 1,190 MW per hour
        Lowest Wind 218 GWh (Jul 6-12) equals 1,300 MW per hour. Lowest Daily wind 10.9 GWh (Jun 6) equals 454 MW
        Lowest Hydro 180 GWh (Feb 3-9) equals 1,071 MW per hour

        Highest Solar 566 GWh (Nov 16-22)
        Highest Wind 638 GWh (Aug 17-23)
        Highest Hydro 408 GWh (Jun 22-28)

        The highest monthly demand was 18,188 GWh in July, equals 24,446 MW per hour
        With solar contributing 6.3%, wind 7.6%, hydro 8.5%, gas 11.0%, and coal 66.5%.

        Lowest weekly coal 2,188 GWh (Oct 5-11) equals 13,024 MW per hour
        Highest weekly coal 2,976 GWh (Jan 27-Feb 2) equals 17,714 MW per hour
        Highest daily coal 436 GWh (Jan 28) equals 18,167 MW per hour

        Yes, let’s get rid of coal (sarc). All that is needed to replace that peak coal is at least 13 times the current windmill capacity.

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        Graeme No.3

        On Christmas Eve my neighbour had a new solar PV array installed. His older one was affected by a fire in the electricals earlier in the year.
        The new installation is about double the area with west facing panels getting the afternoon sun as well.
        He was taking advantage of the Federal subsidy that runs out on Jan. 1 (according to TV adds with Alan Border) and the SA State decision that replacement systems get the original feed-in tariff rate until 2025. So he has 5 years (at 50¢ per kWh) to pay for his new scheme.
        Does he believe in combatting Global Warming? You have got to be joking. He will pay off the new system easily, and if the SA Govt. persists in its stupid policies, the higher the price of electricity goes the higher the return.

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          Chad

          My “ageing”. (10 yr old !) 2.1 kW solar system is acting up …constant “Isolation Fault”. That needs resetting daily to get any output .
          Solar tecnicians advise that it needs all the panels rewired, and possibly the Inverter replaced ..( outdated, no tech support or spares available !)
          Cost between $1k — $3k ,.. but then i still have old panels that are of unknown reliability.
          final advice… replace it all (except the racking) with new 3.5 kW total system for $7+ k !
          the most FIT i could expect is <$0.1 /kWh but i doubt i will be able to feed much back anyway from such a system as our daily usage is 20+ kWhs ! )
          I would not qualify for the solar subsidy , and may have to pay for disposal of old panels etc. !
          … unfortunately, we just missed a local damaging hail storm on Boxing day…or i could have claimed against storm damage !

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            Graeme No.3

            Chad:
            That quote seems very high in view of recent advertisements for 6.3kW systems. Was the quote for high quality panels?
            Does your feed-in rate change? Not the case in SA where the original rate applies even if the panels are removed.

            The usual approach is to put in as big an array as will fit and use the extra generation boost your return.

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    WXcycles

    408 km/h jet southern Indian ocean @ 34,000 feet (ECMWF).

    https://i.ibb.co/rpm1s9B/a-408-kmh-34k-ft-Screenshot-2020-12-27-Windy-as-forecasted-2.jpg

    Ultra-fast subtropical jets are returning to the Southern Hemisphere’s Summer in the first days of January. This forecast jet is about 190km/h faster than it should be in early January for that location (it should not exceed ~215 km/h at this time of year).

    https://i.ibb.co/VvNgTTp/a2-Fastest-jet-is-in-South-Screenshot-2020-12-27-Windy-as-forecasted-2.jpg

    As per last Summer the jets in the southern hemisphere look at if they’re really Winter jets, except they are ~65 km/h faster than any Winter jetstream should be, too. They are again bloated volumetrically and much deeper then they should be, thus contain a lot more energy, and are going to bring that energy closer to the surface, than the normally would. So we can expect surface weather variability to increase. Hotter hot, and colder cold, and in this La Nina case, a wetter wet. More variable surface winds south of a bout 15 degrees south, with higher average speeds. Strong frontal storms, etc.

    Earth’s mid and upper Troposphere continues to behave in a highly unorthodox manner since early 2019, and which became very obvious from mid to late November in 2019. So a fundamental change in tropospheric behavior and flow patterns is now ~18 months old and the pattern established earlier this year than last year, so will probably last longer into the Northern Hemisphere’s Spring to Summer transition.

    And the very severe snowfall and very bitter Central Asian Winter period of 2019-2020’s winter will likely be repeated, if not more severe and protracted.

    Current 10-day global snow forecast:

    https://i.ibb.co/pfPRn1K/b-10-day-snow-Screenshot-2020-12-27-Windy-as-forecasted.png

    Heavy snowfalls like that will continue until mid spring.

    The following may also continue periodically through our southern Summer:

    https://i.ibb.co/9qwG6YJ/c-10-day-snow-Pacific-Screenshot-2020-12-27-Windy-as-forecasted-1.png

    That snow is a product of increasing variability produced by a globally faster rate of sinking stratospheric air, falling into the Troposphere, and expanding and making much deeper plus accelerating all jetstream flows. Thus raising surface energy also, and increasing variability.

    Note that this cooling trend and increased variability is coming from directly overhead, it is not coming from the poles, nor from longer fetched over higher polar latitude. The cooling is being caused by a vertical flow from the stratosphere to troposphere, and this is occurring without any increased meridianal flow from the jets. In fact the jets have actually become more zonal, over larger areas, with this cooling process becoming more established.

    Opposite to what everyone had expected.

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      WXc, our 4-day Christmas (summer) snowstorm is finally relenting, having travelled as far north as Mt Ruapehu in the North Island, where snow began falling yesterday afternoon and is only now clearing. Mt Hutt (inland from Christchurch) is still covered with snow, and ice plasters the summit chairlifts, resembling a mid-winter blizzard scene.

      The mountain forecast (on national radio) alerted listeners to ‘snow to 1,000 metres’ over the weekend, yet not a squeak from any other media format – not even a cute fluffy animal playing in the ‘out of season’ snow. News you can trust? (insert expletive)

      Long-range forecasts are also calling for snow on New Year’s Eve AND New Year’s Day in the Mt Cook / Aoraki region. Funny, it snowed there on 1st Jan this year too. Cheers!

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        WXcycles

        … not even a cute fluffy animal playing in the ‘out of season’ snow. News you can trust? (insert expletive) …

        Does not fit the media and political story-board. Free-speech, science and observation have never been so cherished by the political agenda and the media script-writers. Snow should be lighter in NZ next week as it’ll mostly come as rain, but no let up of heavy snow (plus heavy rainfalls) for Western South America.

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    Hanrahan

    Firstly, Happy new year all. May 2021 finish better than it is starting.

    Trump has no option but to fight “the steal” to the death. Constitutionally he is obliged to defend the constitution and the democratic processes enshrined within it.

    But also very important: He must defend himself and his family. Should the dems win the presidency and with it the DoJ, they will not rest until Trump AND family are destroyed. This goes 100% against convention where departing presidents are allowed to exit stage left and retire with the clear understanding that there will be no recriminations. Universally the Trump haters I read believe Trump should be tried for treason where the death penalty is an option. They “know” that a guilty verdict is merely a formality and with Comey and Brennan types back in power that is a probability.

    If I were a believer I would join the prayers for Trump. He needs all the help he can get.

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      Tilba Tilba

      Universally the Trump haters I read believe Trump should be tried for treason where the death penalty is an option.

      I think there are many more reasonable Democrats and other political types, including in the commentariat, who are nowhere near this extreme.

      There seems to be two differing views, both of which have their merits:

      (1) A President Biden would do well to stay “above the fray”, concentrate on his agenda going forward, and leave investigations into the Trump family and administration to the DOJ – or even take the view that Trump and his family should be allowed to fade into history, and have declining influence on the political stage.

      This will depend a lot on Trump’s behaviour itself. If he refuses to attend the Inauguration, and continues to claim fraud, and attempts to de-legitimise or white-ant the Biden administration after 20 January, then you would expect the DOJ and others to go after him with some enthusiasm.

      What could be achieved is a deal – Trump goes quietly and recognises the new administration, and he (and his family) won’t be chased or prosecuted. That might be the best in a country with a lot of pressing problems.

      It will all be strongly influenced by what Democrat strategists believe would play best in the 2022 Mid-Term Elections too.

      (2) There is an argument that if Trump’s most blatant egregious behaviour, and transgressions, are NOT fully investigated and brought before the courts, then Trump will be seen as “above the law”, and equally, future Republican (and possibly Democrat) presidents will feel that they can get away with breaking laws, undoing governmental norms, and politicising the public service.

      It will be interesting to see which way it does go … and in this mix is also the degree to which Trump pardons his family (and others within his orbit), and whether he is granted a pardon himself.

      I expect he’s worried about what is happening legally up in New York just as much.

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    Dennis

    Morning Mail

    The Mushrooming of the 2020 US Election

    27.12.20. On December 23 President Trump made a powerful speech summing up facts behind the purported win by Joe Biden of the US election. As is normal, the mainstream US media and the Australian media en bloc have ignored or ridiculed this speech. Their narrative is that Trump is a spiteful and buffoonish loser.
    In the real world, a Rasmussen survey showed that only 47 per cent of American voters believe that Joe Biden won. Only 10 per cent of Republicans think Biden won fairly.
    And these American voters have good grounds for so believing. Quadrant Online now goes where the rest of the media refuses, and publishes our own and full transcript of Trump’s 14-minute address.
    It exposes the disgraceful alliance of the media (including The Australian’s US correspondent, let alone the ABC), the media-technology giants and the Democrat Party to suppress pro-Trump news, up to and including censoring the President himself. Here is just one handy fact: Twitter has censored Trump and his campaign 543 times since May 2018. Its censoring of Biden: zero.
    —Tony Thomas
    ______________________
    My fellow Americans,
    Today I want to explain to you why I am so determined to pursue every legal and constitutional option available to stop the theft of the presidential election.
    As President one of my most solemn duties is to protect the integrity of your sacred right to vote. This year, using the virus as a pretext, Democrat officials in the key swing states illegally violated their state laws in order to enable, encourage and facilitate fraud on a scale never before seen in the history of our country. The truth is we won the election by a landslide. We won it big. I am going to give you the facts that every American needs to know.
    Let’s go back to the night of the election. By midnight we had a commanding lead in the swing states. We won Florida by a record number of votes. We won Ohio by a record number of votes. And likewise we won Iowa by 8.2 per cent, far different than the false narrative portrayed in the media. We were up by 293,000 votes in Michigan.
    Michigan, 112,000 votes in Wisconsin, 356,000 votes in Georgia and nearly 700,000 votes in Pennsylvania, all swing states. These numbers were absolutely impossible for Joe Biden to overcome and the Democrats knew it, and everybody forecasting knew it and understood it well. Our nation’s greatest political professionals were calling to congratulate me on our victory. Then, suddenly, everything started to disappear, everything started to change.
    The vote-counting abruptly stopped in multiple states. In the middle of the night a series of massive and statistically inconceivable vote dumps overturned the results in state after state. At 6.31am, very early in the morning, Michigan suddenly reported 147,224 votes, 94 per cent for Biden, 6 per cent for Trump. At 4.42am Wisconsin reported 143,279 votes, almost all of them for Biden. A similar massive drop of ballots happened in Georgia at 1.34am, again almost all of these votes for Biden. These gigantic and ridiculously one-sided spikes were miraculously just enough to push Biden into the lead in all of the key swing states.
    These glaring anomalies are just the tip of the iceberg. We won 18 out of 19 bellwether counties — a record! — that have correctly predicted the winner of every Presidential election for the last 40 years. We also won Ohio, Florida and Iowa by historic margins, meaning Biden would be the first candidate since 1960 — and only the second candidate in American history — to win the White House while losing all three of those major states, and it was not even close. With Joe Biden at the top of the ticket the Democrats lost 25 out of 26 toss-up House seats, that is a record. The Democrats were projected to gain 15 seats and instead, because of my success and coat-tails, as they call them, they lost 14 seats. So think of that — they were going to win big and they ended up losing big.
    My campaign received more votes than any president in history, almost 75 million people voted for me. We earned approximately 12 million more votes than we got in 2016, the largest vote increase for any incumbent president ever recorded. I also received the largest share of non-white voters of any Republican president in over 60 years. In fact we did better with African American and Hispanic voters everywhere in the country except for a small handful of corrupt Democrat-run cities in key swing states, places notorious for fraud such as Milwaukee, Detroit, Atlanta and Philadelphia, all run by Democrat machine politicians.
    No president has ever lost re-election while making such extraordinary gains across the board. There has never been anything like it. Yet despite all this evidence of a thundering Trump victory and despite all those projections all through the night, they want us to believe that Biden, who seldom left his basement to campaign, somehow received 11.7 million more votes than Barack Obama, and that he beat Obama all over the country. It is historically, mathematically, politically, and logically impossible. It didn’t happen. He didn’t win, we won by a landslide.
    Over the past seven weeks we have put forward abundant evidence proving how Democrats perpetrated this monstrous fraud on the American people and, indeed, on the world.
    Firstly we have shown officials in virtually every key swing state brazenly violated their own state laws in order to change the election procedures, eliminate safeguards, promote fraud and illegally benefit Joe Biden, and legislatures which have to make changes were seldom if ever used. For example, Pennsylvania’s radical Democrat Secretary of State suspended all signature verification requirements, breaking Pennsylvania law not to mention the big and very illegal ballot drops. In Michigan the Secretary of State, a Democrat, illegally flooded the state with absentee ballot applications even though Michigan law strictly limits distribution of absentee ballots. In Wisconsin major Democrat cities deployed over 500 unmanned, unsecured ballot drop boxes that were blatantly illegal, paving the way for unlawful ballot harvesting and tremendous fraud.
    In Georgia the Secretary of State began illegally processing ballots weeks before election day and also destroyed the signature verification system in violation of the law. Many other horrible things were done in Georgia. Those actions alone were more than enough to rig the election results for Democrats.
    Second, absentee ballot rejection rates prove that hundreds of thousands of illegitimate votes were counted in the key states. This was sufficient to change the election results all on its own. In 2016, 6.4 per cent of mail-in ballots were rejected in Georgia. This year fewer than a tiny percentage of one per cent were rejected. You went all the way down, a difference [reduction] of more than 30 times. The same phenomenon occurred in Pennsylvania and other states. They were accepting all of these ballots, many of which were absolutely illegal. In a year in which the number of mail-in ballots was the highest ever, the rejection rate was magically the lowest ever and it was not even close. The only possible explanation is that tens of thousands of ballots were unlawfully processed and counted.
    Most Americans would be shocked to learn that in no swing state is there any meaningful attempt to verify citizenship, residency, identity or eligibility for mail-in ballots. The potential for illegal activity is unlimited. That is what we just experienced.
    Thirdly, hundreds and hundreds of witnesses have come forward to testify under penalty of perjury about cheating and fraud they saw with their own eyes. Witness have sworn they saw ballot workers illegally backdating thousands of ballots, counting batches of the same ballots many times and unloading boxes and boxes of ballots, all bearing the same signature and all for Joe Biden. Other witnesses testified seeing thousands of so-called pristine ballots with no creases or folds, all voting for Biden. When you have no folds, it means it was not mailed. It means it was a fraud.
    Republican poll watchers were denied critical access as hundreds of thousands of votes were counted in Democrat-run cities in the essential states. There is even security camera footage from Georgia that shows officials telling poll-watchers to leave the room before pulling suitcases of ballots out from under the tables and continuing to count for hours. The reason they were forced to leave the room there was they said a major water main break. The water main break never happened, there was no water main break. In many cases Republican poll watchers were physically removed from rooms.
    In addition, there was the deeply troubling matter of Dominion voting machines. In just one major county alone 6000 votes were switched from Trump to Biden and the same system was used throughout the majority of the US. No satisfactory explanation has been offered over why Dominion systems are able to switch votes with the mere push of a button. In Arizona the state senators recently issued a subpoena for forensic auditing of voting machines and similar investigations must be made in every state using Dominion systems, immediately.
    In Texas they don’t allow Dominion system to be used.
    As I have just laid out, we have unveiled overwhelming evidence of election fraud. None of this should ever have been allowed to happen in the USA. It is a travesty of democracy, it is a shame upon our republic. In 2016 we caught them by surprise. From that moment they had four years to work on these schemes to rig the 2020 election.
    The rigging of the 2020 election was only the final step in the Democrats’ and media’s years long effort to overthrow the will of the American people and destroy our movement by any means possible — any means necessary.
    For months and indeed years before the election, media and the big technology giants and the Democrat party were openly colluding to deceive the American public. Earlier this year it was proven beyond any doubt that Joe Biden’s family received millions of dollars from the Chinese Communist Party. Yet media and the technology giants worked together to completely censor this information. Our country no longer has a free press, it is a press of suppression, a press where the truth will never come out. It is the greatest and most shocking scandal involving a presidential candidate in modern history. But surveys show that half those who voted for Joe Biden have never even heard of the story.
    This is not the first and only time that the media and the Biden campaign flagrantly lied to the American people. They repeatedly insisted that we would not produce a vaccine for the China virus before the middle of next year. Yet before the end of this year we have already authorised two vaccines with tens of millions of doses of distribution and hundreds of millions more on their way. This is being talked of as a great medical miracle. In this sense alone the media and Democrat Party lied to the American people to try to steal the election. Also polls: in order to deter voter turnout, the media had me down in certain polls by 15-16-17% in states that I won or came close to winning.
    If this egregious fraud is not fully investigated and addressed the 2020 election will be forever regarded as illegitimate and the most corrupt election in history of our country. Americans must be able have complete faith and confidence in our elections. The fate of our democracy depends on it. Now is the time for the American people to raise their voices and demand this injustice be immediately corrected.
    Our elections must first be fair, they must be honest and they they must be 100 per cent free of fraud. We won this election by a magnificent landslide and the people of the US know it. All over, they are demonstrating, they are angry, they are fearful. We cannot allow a completely fraudulent election to stand. Thank you, God bless you and God bless America.

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      PeterS

      We shall see if Trump presents to the world definitive proof of the election being such a massive fraud as some claim he is preparing. If he does then it will be a moment not unlike what happened when the Soviets were exposed as liars for saying they didn’t have nuclear missiles deployed in Cuba.
      CUBA – ROCKET PHOTO’S SHOWN TO UNITED NATIONS

      If Trump doesn’t have such definitive proof to present to the world then he will just have to hope on Jan 6 Congress discards enough votes for Biden to force them to use the 12th Amendment to choose the POTUS for the next 4 years.

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        el gordo

        The Cuban Missile Crisis is not a good comparison, whereas there are contemporary similarities in Africa where democracy is only emerging. We wuz robbed is common parlance and then the violence begins … failed state status.

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          PeterS

          I was providing one scenario where the comparison would be appropriate. If the scenario does not play out then there is no comparison. Don’t you get it? Do you have a time machine?

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          Peter C

          The Cuban Missile Crisis is not a good comparison,

          Given that the impact and the quality of the evidence was the issue, why is the Cuban Missile evidence not a good comparison?

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            el gordo

            It was a cold war period and the Cuban Missile Crisis could easily have plunged the world into armageddon. Kennedy said we’ll remove our missiles in Turkey if the Soviets do the same in Cuban, it worked like a charm.

            What is now happening in the US is of no consequence.

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              PeterS

              Again you miss the point. I was comparing the way the evidence might be presented, not the relative importance of the incidents. The Cuban missile crisis was indeed a critical moment for the world. The US election is of far less consequence to the world, not none as you foolishly imply.

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                el gordo

                Yeah alright, the point is that this has been a free and fair election.

                The OSCE election observers came out with their preliminary findings which ‘highlighted the incumbent president’s “discriminative and pejorative statements” and also noted that “the two leading presidential candidates accused each other of corruption, fraud, working for foreign interests, an inability to lead, and support for extremist groups.” (OSCE.gov)

                Biden has a mandate to rule and nothing will alter that fact.

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        Tilba Tilba

        If Trump doesn’t have such definitive proof to present to the world then he will just have to hope on Jan 6 Congress discards enough votes for Biden to force them to use the 12th Amendment to choose the POTUS for the next 4 years.

        From my reading, the 12th Amendment (as well as the Electoral Count Act) won’t offer a pathway for Donald Trump.

        The Democrat House majority will not reject electoral slates, and even if the Senate did (also unlikely it seems) the slate chosen is that certified by the relevant state authorities. And all the swing state slates have voted for Biden.

        That is my understanding of how it works, and it is extremely unlikely that the process will end in a contingent election.

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    MP

    The gold standard. Everything is a gold standard when you have no standards.
    Pawpaw
    Goat
    Oil
    Minks (lead to the slaughter of millions of animals)
    Cola
    Kiwi Fruit https://www.bitchute.com/video/BftqtVm3MGta/

    This is a link to a military site, there is no information on this company that I can find yet they have some pretty amazing stats on military hardware for every country. If you are into Military hardware this is an interesting site. https://www.deagel.com/

    They have made predictions on world population decline by 2025 and have recently added a disclaimer at the bottom, so scroll down.
    https://www.deagel.com/country this will bring up current country stats, click on the switch to forecast 2025 for their predictions.

    Odd site.

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      Peter C

      The gold standard. Everything is a gold standard when you have no standards.

      Brilliant MP.

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        Peter C

        With respect to global population decline by 2050, hopefully that is not correct because it would need massive global disruption to cause it.

        However the slightly longer term assessment is optimistic. Even the UN thinks the Global population will peak by 2100 at 11 Billion. That is not so far away and it is not even double our current population. The projection comes from falling birth rates across the globe.
        https://www.un.org/development/desa/en/news/population/world-population-prospects-2019.html

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          MP

          UN, their a large part of our problems, why would I believe anything they have to say.

          The forecast is 2025 not 2050.

          We are in the start of massive global disruption.

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            Peter C

            Well Yes the UN is a problem. But there are other reference sites with better credentials. I just used the UN because they came up first on my search and they would be a worst case scenario.

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            OriginalSteve

            The UN are at the core of the NWO….

            They are a private unaccountable organization that has both bewitched and hamstrung govts the world over…..

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    MP

    If you like I struggle with understanding PCR tests, this is an easy to understand explanation https://hardnoxandfriends.com/2020/11/23/the-spike-and-pcr-testing-a-crumb-the-pandemic-is-over/

    The WHO recommendation is for 40 cycles.

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    David Maddison

    If it were not for the double standards of the Left they would have no standards whatsoever.

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    liberator

    Something a bit different…

    A “greeny” who hates “wind turbins” I’ve been watching this YouTube vlogger Jonna Jinton for a while – I like her music, and just how in-tune she is with her surroundings, her “nature” and where she lives – northern Sweden.

    The videos she produces showcase the northern region of Sweden so well – I’d love to visit there, in fact could almost live there myself. It’s just so beautiful. I love the cold as well, but maybe not so much if I lived there all the time.

    I’m slowly working my way through her Vlogs and watched this one today. She so much loves her “nature”, her town, the people and everything about where she lives, until a wind turbine company wanted to install 200+ wind turbines where she lives. It would destroy the nature and everything about why she chooses to live where she does. The turbines were not to produce power for Sweden but to sell the power to Germany. Some people may see her as being odd, I see her as being connected to her nature.

    Vlog link:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ysoYjgag12g&ab_channel=JonnaJinton

    You can skip the first bit of the blog and go to the 13 minute mark to watch where she starts to talk about the impact to her and the town on the plan to install these monstrosities.

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      David Maddison

      I can never understand why “greens” are so in love with wind turbines. They are tremendously environmentally destructive in terms of visual impact, infrasound, shadow flicker, disposal issues, destruction of bird and bat life, the huge concrete bases and the amount of land that has to be cleared around them not to mention pollution created when they catch fire or dangers such as throwing shards of ice up to a kilometre in cold locations.

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    MP

    Came across this while looking about the web, couple of aussie Christmas memes, The techno one is good and done to Dan Andrews speech on cases. (of beer)
    the 10th from the top is a speech from the WA parliament. (to the sound of silence)

    https://www.reddit.com/r/australia/comments/em7m2x/the_qualifications_of_australias_most_well_known/fdnhyad/

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    David Maddison

    At the Hazelwood Power Station site, under destruction by the evil and dark forces of the Left, the most recent phase of destruction of this low cost real power plant is the bucket excavators used in the coal mine (also known as dredgers). I won’t watch the video, it’s too upsetting to watch a basic element of our civilisation being destroyed.

    https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-10-15/hazelwood-power-station-dredger-demolition/12770440

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      Rob JM

      Hazelwood needed to be shut down both due an exhausted coal supply and the fact it didn’t use scrubbers to remove SO2 and other toxic chemicals. Loy Yang B has sites for the 2 additional that were planed but never built and a coal supply for a few hundred years. They would be 40% more efficient and reduce real pollution.

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    David Maddison

    Why is coaxial cable 50 ohm impedance?

    https://youtu.be/I-OnQZJv35I

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      Peter C

      Thanks David,

      Probably not interesting to most, but as it happens I have been installing a glider radio transceiver (transmit and receive). I found 75 ohm co-axial cable easy to obtain and quite cheap but I was advised to get 50 ohm cable which cost twice as much and I had to go to RadioParts to get it. Now I know why 50m ohms is better.

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    el gordo

    Donald the humanitarian.

    ‘ … he has assailed the bill’s plan to provide $US600 COVID relief checks to most Americans — insisting it should be $US2,000.

    ‘House Republicans swiftly rejected that idea during a rare Christmas Eve session. But Mr Trump has not been swayed.

    “I simply want to get our great people $2000, rather than the measly $600 that is now in the bill,” Mr Trump tweeted Saturday from Palm Beach, where he is spending the holiday.’ (ABC)

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    MP

    This is a 30 minute video of who is controlling the riots in the US. Footage I have not seen before. Quite well done and eye opening.

    https://www.bitchute.com/video/cKoPYHEj6yMA/

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    greggg

    If you live in Norway, the thought police are coming for you. You may be arrested for criticising LGBTWTF privately in your own home!

    ‘People found guilty of hate speech face a fine or up to a year in jail for private remarks, and a maximum of three years in jail for public comments, according to the penal code.’
    ‘The law’s opponents argued that it could criminalise free speech criticising LGBT+ rights, said Anine Kierulf, an assistant professor of law at the University of Oslo.’
    ‘The bar for prosecution is high, requiring direct incitement against people or language that dehumanises them, she said.’

    “language that dehumanises them”? – that is not a high bar. Say something PRIVATELY that upsets some snowflakes and get chucked in gaol?

    https://www.reuters.com/article/norway-lgbt-lawmaking-idUSKBN2852DL

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      OriginalSteve

      So how do they prove you said something “bad”?

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      OriginalSteve

      Random thought for the day:

      When a society stands for everything, it actually stands for nothing….

      Tolerance of everything appears to just disguised hedonism and anarchy.

      One of the things I like about Christianity is that its moral structure is very clear.

      By comparison, the NWO favours confusion and anarchy….by design.

      The God of the Bible is ordered.
      The Devil loves chaos.

      Choose wisely….

      QED.

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        Tilba Tilba

        I am not religious at all, but I am rather intolerant of:

        ● people who don’t say “thank you” when I hold a door open for them
        ● people who park their cars on the nature strip in front of our place
        ● people who mispronounce “con-TRIB-ute” and “dis-TRIB-ute”
        ● people who tell you what high school they went to

        But otherwise, live and let live, I say.

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        Tilba Tilba

        I am not religious at all, but I am rather intolerant of:

        ● people who don’t say “thank you” when I hold a door open for them
        ● people who park their cars on the nature strip in front of our place
        ● people who mispronounce “con-TRIB-ute” and “dis-TRIB-ute”
        ● people who tell you what high school they went to

        But otherwise, live and let live, I say.

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    Bonbon

    Merry Christmas Everyone

    I see global warming has stopped again!

    http://www.drroyspencer.com/wp-content/uploads/UAH_LT_1979_thru_November_2020_v6.jpg

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    Tilba Tilba

    We’ve spent a lot of time in Washington State on three lovely trips … from the San Juan Islands and Olympic NP, Aberdeen (hometown of Curt Cobain) through to Yakima, Grand Coulee Dam, and Spokane.

    To our mind, the big disappointment in the state is Seattle … pretty ordinary we thought. And it’s been four years, so it’s probably worse.

    We loved North Cascades NP, Mt Rainier NP, and of course the Columbia River Gorge. And the Boeing Factory. And the gorge caused by the Missoula Floods is simply astonishing … nothing quite like it in Oz.

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    Tilba Tilba

    We’ve spent a lot of time in Washington State on three lovely trips … from the San Juan Islands and Olympic NP, Aberdeen (hometown of Curt Cobain) through to Yakima, Grand Coulee Dam, and Spokane.

    To our mind, the big disappointment in the state is Seattle … pretty ordinary we thought. And it’s been four years, so it’s probably worse.

    We loved North Cascades NP, Mt Rainier NP, and of course the Columbia River Gorge. And the Boeing Factory. And the gorge caused by the Missoula Floods is simply astonishing … nothing quite like it in Oz.

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    Tilba Tilba

    Apologies for the duplicated post, and the poor links.

    I trust this one works well: Missoula Flood Gorge.

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    Tilba Tilba

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    Kim

    Delingpole: German Economist Says ‘Great Reset Will Cause a Crash Worse than 1930s’ https://www.breitbart.com/europe/2020/12/26/german-economist-great-reset-will-cause-a-crash-worse-than-1930s/

    James Delingpole: Dr Antony P. Mueller https://rumble.com/vc2csa-dr-antony-p.-mueller.html

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    el gordo

    China is a police state of Orwellian dimensions.

    ‘Citizen journalist Zhang Zhan was sentenced to four years in prison in Shanghai on Monday for her reporting of the coronavirus pandemic in central Chinese city of Wuhan early this year, one of her lawyers said.

    ‘Zhang, 37, was found guilty by Shanghai Pudong New Area People’s Court on Monday morning of “picking quarrels and provoking trouble”, a broadly defined offence which carries a maximum sentence of five years and is often used by police to stifle dissent.

    “Zhang Zhan attended the trial in a wheelchair and was in poor health,” lawyer Zhang Keke said.’ (SCMP)

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