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The Serbian man with a message for Americans “you will never be as strong as you are now”

Filmed in the first ten days after the US election.

“Maybe a Serbian guy should tell Americans what they should do”

Our dictator Milosevic stole the election. He used all the tactics you see now.

In October 2000, my country done something extraordinary. After being obedient for ten years, after sitting in tanks to pointlessly die, after many treasons and hopeless future…  my country somehow decided it was time to do something, to fight for freedom.

It started with strikes and civil disobedience. All of Serbia came to Belgrade. Basically everyone who could walk went to the protest.

Somehow when they have seen the sea of people they decided … to back off.

 “They are never going to be as weak as now

and you are never going to be as strong as you are now”

If you lose now, it will be game over.

Once it has hold, socialism will never leave…

If you don’t believe me ask a billion people.

 Do you have the guts to take to the streets and take what is yours?

h/t Bill C via American Partisan

 

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99 comments to The Serbian man with a message for Americans “you will never be as strong as you are now”

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    BernardP

    After following events, news, comments and President Trump’ tweets since the US election, here is my take on what could happen next :

    I’m expecting he will be pushing for the Contingent Election process, as explained here :

    https://nationalfile.com/contingent-election-pence-gop-senate-can-invalidate-democrat-presidential-electors-in-az-ga-mi-ga/

    To succeed, the two Republican Senate candidates must first win the early January run-off election. If they don’t win, it’s game over. If they win, all Senate members must support Trump in the Contingent Election process

    There are certainly a number of Senators who don’t want to support Trump. To put pressure on them, Trump is counting on millions of supporters attending the upcoming January 6 protest in Washington DC.

    This appears to be the only moderate constitutional procedure that has a chance to succeed. As it relies on unanimity of Senate Republicans, chance of success seem low… Unless (Gulp!) Trump can convince some Democrats to support him, in the name of preserving the integrity of the electoral process.

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      OldOzzie

      President Trump Lists ‘Irrefutable Proof’ Of Rigged Election, Says ‘Time For Republican Senators To Step Up And Fight’

      President Trump rebuked the state of the election and called out GOP lawmakers for keeping silent. On Saturday, President Trump called on the Senate not one, but two times.

      In a string of tweets, the President said, “Time for Republican senators to step up and fight for the presidency like the Democrats would’ve done if they had actually won.”

      He also reiterated that “Courts are bad, the FBI and ‘Justice’ didn’t do their job, and the United States election system looks like that of a third world country.”

      President Trump added Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell and other Republicans are doing nothing to protect the integrity of the election.

      The President also laid out what he called “irrefutable proof” of massive election irregularities. He noted massive late-night mail-in ballot drops in swing states, stuffing the ballot boxes on video, double voters, dead voters, fake signatures, and more.

      He finished by saying the numbers are far greater than what is necessary to win the individual swing states and emphasized this cannot even be contested.

      Moving forward, all eyes will be on Congress to either contest the electoral college or affirm their vote for President of the United States come January 6.

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      OldOzzie

      THE CLOCK IS TICKING – WILL IT BE ‘GREAT RESET’ OR ‘GREAT REBOUND’?

      By Howell Woltz -December 27, 2020

      January 6th is a Big Day for The Western World
      In fact, mark it down. If you’re religious, you may even want to say a little prayer.

      For whom, you ask? Pray for yourselves, your families, your nations – and yes, for our world’s future.

      That’s the day a combination of Marxists, Islamists, Globalists, Tech/Media Oligarchs, Big Pharma, Bankers, Billionaires and Leaders who are Traitors to Western Civilisation may affirm their death grip on those who do most of the living and dying on this planet.

      That’s us. The Deplorables. The Lao Baixing of China. The Brexiteers. French gilet jaunes andPatriots of all lands who love their nations and histories, and make no mistake, there are lots more of us than them.

      They will use manufactured diseases against us, lockdowns, Marxism, Islamic terror, seizure of our weapons, media control and lies about the state of our Climate – to move our world to consolidated power under the United Nations, as promised thirty years ago by President George H.W. Bush.

      For newer readers, “Yes. He said it, and here it is.”

      So I’ll apologise for being an eternal optimist but in my own defence, I’ve only laid out what law and Constitution required these weaklings to do.

      That so many among President Trump’s coterie of courtiers were eunuchs simply seemed impossible to me, but I was mistaken.

      There are apparently enough of them to start a boys’ choir when Trump shows them the castle gates in two weeks, but let’s focus on the soldiers, as the fat lady hasn’t even put on her breastplates for the final act or started tuning up to sing.

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      Ted O'Brien.

      I offer a long winded interpretation. Trump may have other ideas, developed around evidence of foreign control.

      About 35 years ago Australia introduced a compulsory superannuation levy on wages. We already had a non compulsory superannuation system, and a means tested old age pension. Ostensibly the purpose of the compulsory super was to guarantee everybody cash savings to fund retirement. Which it is by no means certain that it will do. Like all other cash savings, that super depends on the workers of the time of collection to honour those cash savings. If doing so is too hard on them they won’t do it. Inflation then devalues the savings.

      Now recall the boast by the Marxists that they will defeat capitalism without firing a shot.

      There was another unstated purpose in that compulsory super. To socialise all ownership of industry.

      I am sure that the Marxists didn’t expect at the time that it would take more than 30 years, but that “socialisation” of management is now becoming visible as shareholdings held by compulsory super funds are now pressuring corporate boards of management into “woke” activities.

      However I doubt that the actual proportion of shares is as great as the influence that they bear. So, how many does it take to gain effective control?

      Democracy is heavily dependant on good luck to work properly. e..g. if you want to win government you must win half of the seats in the parliament plus one. So if you nominate in just half plus one and win those, then 49% didn’t get the opportunity to vote for or against you. Win those 50% + 1 of the seats by winning 50% + 1 of the votes in each electorate, you form government with only 26% of the population voting for you. Abolish compulsory voting and it becomes less again.

      Fortunately it never gets that bad, but the underlying principle is always there.

      Corporate AGMs do not go in for compulsory voting. And for the rest of the year they run as much on the expectation of the next AGM as the last one.

      So, given all that, how much influence does the Chinese Communist Party have in the boardrooms of corporate America? With particular reference to Twitter, Facebook, Vanguard, Black Rock, and all the lesser investors?

      And how much was that influence brought to bear on media corporations in the election process?

      Some pundits may be in for some surprises yet.

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      Antoine D'Arche

      No, Pence refuses to certify electors and it goes to the House to request candidates be sent from all 50 States. Article 12 requires they vote along party lines, GOP outnumbers DEMs = Trump wins easily. They don’t need the Senate run off race at all. Trump can the SCOTUS case about PA votes. The individual legislatures are poised to decertify the Biden electors; if GA, MI and AZ or WI do then neither candidate gets 270 votes and again it goes to the House, see above. Watch Steve Turley on YT.

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    Lucky

    Did Milosevic have the support of 95% of the media?
    “strikes and civil disobedience” but what if Milosevic had his supporters doing it to threaten dissent?

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      Ross

      @ Lucky.
      Exactly. It is Trump (not Republicans) clinging to power and refusing to accept the will of the people (democracy). It is Trump who is encouraging civil disobedience.
      Either Trump is gifted the Presidency, or we burn the joint down.

      MAGA?

      [Yes, Trump refuses to accept the will of dead people and electronic machines. What kind of nation do zombies and the CCP want? – jo]

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    Wet Mountains

    Words, written words. I search for words that will make a difference, change men’s hearts, inspire. The salvation of the United States, the world, will require pain. Pain felt by all, endured by all. But the pain felt now is nothing to the pain that will be felt if we do nothing. I pray God to give us strength to sacrifice now for generations to come. The storm is upon us. The time is now.

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      OldOzzie

      Michael Walsh’s ‘Last Stands’ Explains Why Men Go Down Fighting to the Last Breath

      Michael Walsh‘s survey of historical Last Stands: Why Men Fight When All Is Lost is not about dying, as the title might suggest, but about why people chose to live out their last moments in a certain way. The book covers famous episodes from antiquity to the early Cold War.

      1. The Battle of Thermopylae (480 B.C.)
      2. Cannae (216 B.C.) and the Teutoburg Forest (9 A.D.)
      3. Masada (73/74 A.D.) and Warsaw (1943)
      4. The Battle of Roncevaux Pass and La Chanson de Roland (778/1115)
      5. The Battle of Hastings (1066)
      6. The Last Stand of the Swiss Guard (1527)
      7. The Siege of Szigetvár (1566)
      8. The Alamo (1836) and Camarón (1863)
      9. Grant at Shiloh (1862)
      10. Custer at the Little Bighorn (1876)
      11. Rorke’s Drift (1879) and Khartoum (1885)
      12. The Battle of Pavlov’s House: Stalingrad, 1942
      13. The Chosin Reservoir, 1950

      In each case, the question is ‘why’?

      For all of human history individual death has been a given and in the past, by contrast with the present when society has hidden it from view except in entertainment, extinction stood at the front and center in people’s lives. The existential problem was how to live as yourself until the very last possible moment. In a world where everyone had to go, the difficulty was how to go out in style. Walsh quotes the hero of the epic poem the “Siege of Sziget” before he leads his men in a forlorn last charge against the Turks:

      “There is one hope for the defeated
      That he cannot hope in victory.
      Is it not better to die as a man,
      Than to live in shame before the eyes of all?

      —Miklós Zrínyi, The Siege of Sziget (1651) translated by László Kőrössy”

      The central idea in Walsh’s book is that a civilization’s ability to find meaning in its particular existence is a proxy of its capacity to survive. For without this sense of meaning, death would be truly victorious unless one could still cheat it with transcendence in “the hope of something afterward.”

      The various names for that “afterward,” whether glory or Valhalla, posterity are aliases for the reasons why men live or die in one way and not another. In the past, this impulse to posterity was implicitly understood. But no longer. As Walsh writes today, “even heroism has now, it seems, become politically incorrect.”

      The Last Stand is the story of those who remained, till the finish, incorrigibly dangerous men

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        Ross

        Trump would call them losers. What about the victors?
        Why did Custer fight rather than surrender? I don’t think the Native Americans gave him the option. Custer and his men got whipped.

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    John R Smith

    A point of concern is the Left has no clue about how far they are pushing.
    I think they will be stunned when (if) the saturation point comes.
    This is topped off by the Left’s V fetish.
    Cluelessly crushing a broad expanse of ordinary people’s lives.
    Here in America they started out with “we’re all in this together”.
    Even they couldn’t sustain that big smelly one.
    Now it’s let’s all be ‘safe’.
    They are incredibly sheltered and have no idea how thin the veneer of civilized society is.
    Says me with out my TFH.
    (putting on TFH) …
    Somebody knows exactly what they are doing and they want a conflagration.

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      John in Oz

      no idea how thin the veneer of civilized society is

      This was evident at the beginning of the pandemic when fights started over toilet paper.

      Look at ‘civilised society’s’ behavior during any shortage of material (e.g. paper, fuel) or on the roads at all times.

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    Ruairi

    In the U.S. a deep Marxist plot,
    Will rob folks of all that they’ve got,
    Who must not be afraid,
    But like Serbs in Belgrade,
    Should strike while the iron is hot.

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    Saighdear

    Along those lines and related to it:Delingpole: German Economist Says ‘Great Reset Will Cause a Crash Worse than 1930s’,https://www.breitbart.com/europe/2020/12/26/german-economist-great-reset-will-cause-a-crash-worse-than-1930s/ I wrote, ‘……: So at the next election when we are totally fed up with Boris & co, we will be, once again, voting in Dimlab. or Dimlibs – all of whom have pretty well gone along with this scheme? and when they “haven’t “, have they come out to tell us what the REAL SCORE is?
    All my Life, I have had to toe the Family Line of Education education education to get ahead – on MERIT ( no word of being an “expert” ). Indeed we believe that “experts” are just that: “EX – perts” would rather be known as a ‘Boffin’ than an expert. Just look a the MSM’s ‘experts’ or on Social Media – ‘influencers’ – yes they just about sum it all up’

    Now, at least in the UK, are we really going to see a velvet revolution? think NOT – only because we are to consumed with our own greed and laziness: Try telling that / this to the ‘man in the street’ – you’d be laughed at etc. these folk are drunk in their own stupidity, unfortunately, and then stupid is what stupid does. Asa Fellow student of LAW said to me ‘ people want JAM today / now, not tomorrow’ they have been promised too much in the past and never saw it. The Donald is trying had to do his own Counter Reset. we would do well to wait and LISTEN & Pay attention. Then go out and Join / Improve upon it WITH HIM. Instead we have a stupid agenda driven MSM acting as Gad-Flies.

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      Yonason

      If they win, there won’t be any meaningful “next election” anywhere.

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      WokeBuster

      Wouldn’t a Farage party be a viable alternative if Boris continues to disappoint?

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        Yonason

        Based on his rhetoric, I would have thought so, myself. But I’ve come to suspect what a poster over at “Not A Lot Of People Know That” writes…

        “Farage has a track record of ringing the doorbell and running away.”

        Nice guy, good ideas, but does he have the fortitude? Then again, if not him, then who?

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          WokeBuster

          Come to think of it, I think you are right. He seems best suited to sledging from the side-lines. The only guys who might fit your requirements are not UK citizens: Victor Orban or Matteo Salvini. Could the local population stomach someone like them? I suspect not – at least not yet.

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          Saighdear

          Yes I think you’ve raised a very valid point -I haven’t seen that mentioned before: Is it his backers, or where the strings are hung up from? There’s just something about general lack of je ne sais quoi in his Parties. we’ve had too much of the 2-party system with some gad-flies in amongst it for too long. …. like Football…….

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          Roger Knights

          Perhaps Farage has wanted to wait until Brexit was done with before shifting his focus.

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    Lance

    Things are going to get very interesting in coming days.

    Trump has known of the coup for years and has prepared for it, more than likely.

    When he said “We got ’em all”, I don’t think he was joking.

    We’ve been living in an Industrial Scale PsyOp for years. And it is unraveling.

    Browse the embedded videos in the link below :

    https://www.millennialmillie.com/post/revenge-of-the-kraken?postId=5fe541d8e227510017a9d3b8

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      Kalm Keith

      Very well laid out detail: one statement says it all;

      “Conclusion:
      Election 2020 is an egg that can’t be unscrambled”

      A great metaphor, but it still leaves the question as to how effective the evidence used to justify that statement will be in court.

      Courts; the appropriate courts seem reluctant to convene so a military court might be the only possibility and to justify that it will need evidence that cannot do anything but stand completely uncontested.

      Difficult situation.

      KK

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        Lance

        Perhaps it will be a Military Court at Guantanamo Bay, Cuba.

        Trump did declare a National Emergency in 2018 that is still in effect.

        If Gitmo, UCMJ would be appropriate.

        That would place things in a different perspective, eh?

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        Ted O'Brien

        Whoever comes out on top, Trump is ensuring that the incoming administration will be held to account.

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    Yonason

    In another article there…

    TREASON

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    David Maddison

    The election fraud wouldn’t have happened without the help of the Elite Socialist Billionaires who own the information infrastructure such as newspapers, TV and social(ist) media. Plus, of course, their useful idiots

    Being a “journalist” or a social(ist) media owner or employee must now be considered the most shameful of all professions.

    And the useful idiots who constitute the slave army of the Leftist Elites are sadly deluded but likely beyond all hope.

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      OldOzzie

      How Silicon Valley scions launched ‘unprecedented cover-up’ in Hunter Biden case

      Democrats, along with allies in Silicon Valley and the news media, have suppressed the Hunter Biden scandal despite mounting evidence that President-elect Joseph R. Biden‘s son had secret, lucrative financial ties to oligarchs and a powerful communist-connected Chinese businessman.

      Since September, it has been a remarkable combination of blacklisting, promoting the theory of a Russian plot against the Bidens or simply ignoring the story. Liberal news websites acknowledged the scandal only after Mr. Biden won the election and Hunter Biden publicly stated that he is under criminal investigation for suspected tax fraud.

      The difference is striking for President Trump‘s associates whom media excoriated during the long FBI Russia probe, which did not establish a conspiracy in the 2016 election.

      “It was an unprecedented cover-up across so many entities inside and outside of the government,” J.D. Gordon, the 2016 Trump campaign’s national security adviser, told The Washington Times. “Silicon Valley suppressed an actual scandal related to Hunter Biden while hyping a manufactured scandal over Trump-Russia.”

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      OldOzzie

      How Mark Robinson beat Bloomberg’s billions to win NC’s second-highest office

      But he decided against courting fame, because “in order to affect real change, there’s no better place to do that than in the political arena.”

      So Robinson ran for lieutenant governor, and became the first black Republican to win a major seat in the state since William Woods Holden in the 1800s. He also earned more votes in his state than the two top Republicans on the ticket: President Trump and Sen. Thom Tillis, and nearly as many as Democratic Gov. Roy Cooper, who will now have a member of the GOP as his second-in-command. If Cooper is successful in his rumored run for US Senate in 2022, Robinson will ascend to the state’s highest office.

      Robinson’s win is astounding for any number of reasons, but especially because he managed to beat the $8 million spent by former New York City Mayor Michael Bloomberg in his state to take him out.

      The funds came via the Beyond Carbon Victory Fund, an environmental justice campaign Bloomberg launched last year that boasts a $500 million budget dedicated to electing state and local candidates “who are climate champions.”

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      OldOzzie

      THE MEDIA’S DOUBLE-STANDARDS

      I know, taking note of media double standards is an insult to shooting fish in a barrel, but every now and then you find something that stands out for special recognition.

      One of the things we hear endlessly from the media is that the Trump Administration has been hostile in unprecedented ways. Oh? As it happened, I stumbled across an account of the Kennedy Administration’s treatment of the media as assembled by Fletcher Knebel in Look magazine in late 1962 (sorry—no link):

      Keep in mind that the press corps in 1962 Washington was largely leading sycophantic cheerleading for JFK, covering up JFK’s philandering, drug abuse, abuse of power (leaking personal tax returns of his enemies anyone?) and infirm health. If the media back then reported on JFK as they have about Trump, JFK would have been impeached within a year.

      That said, I am sure Schlesinger was right about the columnist, and the reporter who wrote up the “dunking” in the pool was just warming up for Chappaquiddick.

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        Serp

        Trump being larger than life doesn’t rely on the personality augmentation of booze which typifies European leadership in which a line is easily drawn between Churchill, Yeltsin and Juncker (although the excesses of the modern pair seem not to have been reported about Winston).

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      OldOzzie

      The Emperor Has No Clothes: A Tale for the Times

      Hans Christian Andersen’s celebrated folk tale The Emperor’s New Clothes serves as a parable for our ideological age and in particular for the current political environment in the U.S. in which a presidential election has been stolen from the people by massive and undoubted electoral fraud.

      Obviously, the tale cannot be applied point by point to the current situation unfolding in the political theater that passes for an election. As Samuel Taylor Coleridge said in his Biographia Literaria, “No metaphor runs on all four legs.” Nonetheless, there are enough similarities to establish the story as a political primer, with variations and idiomatic applications, for the sordid scene we are witnessing daily. The sartorial travesty is or should be plain for all to see.

      The Supreme Court Justices are garbed in their splendid ermine robes. The formulators of corrupt editorial policy are arrayed in their impeccable suits. The political rabble—magistrates and courtiers—occupying the seats of power and intent on deceiving the public are covered head to toe in glittering bling. Their flunkies, cupbearers, sycophants, liegemen, retainers, stewards, equerries, advocates, and advisors parade in custom-made attire. And nearly half the American public are blinded by the spurious radiance of their leaders and opinion-makers—or appear to be, either taking falsehood on faith or colluding in the imposture. Indeed, the vestiary pageant that the Left has mounted is as impressive as it is specious. The only problem is that they are all displayed, for those whose eyes are open and who are clear of mind, in their jockeys and knickers. Some cavort stark naked. The dazzling robes and gowns are mere illusions, tricks of sham effulgence.

      There is, mind you, a mercer’s wrinkle to consider. Many of these pretenders surely believe they are garbed in executive fabric but others are perfectly content to swan about in their undies.

      Meanwhile, the weavers of tales, sometimes known as journalists, panelists, talking heads, cable anchors, and social media moguls, continue to profit from the tissue of lies they fabricate and circulate in the hope of deceiving the multitudes and creating a new emporium of tenuous webs and textures called a “presidency.”

      The only issue that remains to be addressed is whether the nominal Emperor, who fancies himself president-elect, is aware that he is strutting about in his smalls, or whether he really believes that he is accoutered in finery “of the most beautiful colors and patterns.” I suppose it depends on the day.

      The “little child” in us, the moral and intelligent portion of the soul, knows that we have been purposefully gulled and cheated, grossly victimized. It is moot, however, whether the clarity of perception and moral indignation of the targets of the great charade can persuade the authorities—justices, legislators—to live up to their assumed garments and dethrone the putative Emperor, sending him back to his appropriate tailor on the shady side of town. For the Emperor who has no clothes and trundles about in his boxers has no business assuming the airs of royalty, any more than the ministers, lords, and chamberlains of the state have the right to desecrate the trappings and vestments of their office by pretending to wear them.

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    Yonniestone

    This man speaks the absolute truth, in Australia 2015 I saw the apathy of Australians first hand along with the indoctrinated Marxism that had shaped their perception of freedom, young people who had benefitted greatly from the efforts and sacrifices their forebears had given to retain democracy now spit upon those acts with genuine distain as they were taught, older people who should’ve known better enabled the creeping marxist rot through delusions of it “working this time” or a childish fantasy of revolution that they never would experience.

    The greatest strength the globalists have had is control of the information to the masses, have a look into the real truths of the Bosnian war and you will see how much fake news the West was fed back then, as for America we can only hope and pray.

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      PeterS

      Also, the greatest strength the globalist have is their understanding of how to keep the populace comfortable and happy as well as misinformed, until they are slaughtered. The globalists have become experts at this. Pity the vast majority of people don’t see it coming until it’s too late. Wake up Americans!

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        Yonniestone

        Here (Ballarat) Australia Day 2021 the local council have voted to stop the fireworks display on lake Wendouree due to offending local indigenous people and will now support a dawn ceremony marking the evils of colonisation and its wrongdoings, this is a complete disgrace and insult to Australia and the Democratic values it represents, the entire history of the “local population” gas been fabricated to the point of inventing a name and language with millions of dollars of public money used to facilitate it.

        The time local councils went from a volunteer local authority to local government was a death knell for citizens freedoms especially when the UN’s ICLEI was rolled out globally in 1990 becoming a subversive destroyer of Western culture in this country.

        I fear that the continued inaction of Australians will only leave the true patriots to choose which hill to die on, so be it.

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      Yonason

      “…have a look into the real truths of the Bosnian war…” – Yonniestone

      I have. You’re correct. More civilians were killed by the allied bombings than the Serbs were falsely accused of killing. The world gave the Serbs the shaft. Very nasty business.

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    PeterS

    Appropriate video but will Americans listen and wake up in time? We shall see. The reality is most people don’t know what you have until it’s gone. I suspect Americans will find out the hard way how true that is, if not now then in say 4, 8 or so years. That’s how the cookie crumbles. Societies repeatedly forget the lessons of history.

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      Lawrie

      It certainly helps when history is not taught at all or that the history taught is BS e.g. Bruce Pascoe and the 1000 people “towns” or that the world had a perfect temperature until 1940 or was it 1976? How many kids today know that six million Jews and millions of Slavs and Untermenchen were killed by the National SOCIALIST Party? How many know of the 20 million Ukrainians that were starved to death by Stalin and COMMUNISM? How many know of the 48 million killed by Mao Tze Tung to further COMMUNISM? Not many I suspect and so they think socialism is another word for utopia. What the poor ignorant sods do not know is that SOCIALISM still has favourites also known as the “elites” while the rest, such as themselves, are simply the provider of privilege for the “elites”. And since the “elites” giveth they can also take away.

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        Wayne Job

        George Orwells book Animal Farm explains about communism very well.This is a book about pigs, that says that all pigs are equal but some pigs are more equal than others.
        Thus the Chinese have some very wealthy communist party members. As no one in China actually owns anything the buggers are coming to Oz and buying up big.

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          Serp

          Let the fate of Huang Xiangmo be a warning to them for surely the time will come when all chinese nationals will be expelled throughout the anglosphere, not just Australia, and their assets seized.

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    David Maddison

    One thing the fraudulent election has shown is the absolute evil nature of the Left Elites and the absolute stupidity of their slave army of useful idiots.

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      PeterS

      Don’t place all the blame on the left. Some Republicans are at fault also. What would make it so much easier for Trump to win the support of Congress is for him to present definitive proof the election was stolen as some are alleging is going to happen. If that does happen it will be virtually impossible for Trump not to win since anyone in Congress who is willingly to still support Biden will be exposed as the real traitors who happen to be on both sides. If such proof isn’t presented then I suppose Trump will have to start packing his bags if Congress picks Biden to be the POTUS, unless such proof is released at a later time before Jan 20, in which case it gets even more interesting.

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        Ian

        “Trump to win the support of Congress is for him to present definitive proof the election was stolen as some are alleging is going to happen. ”

        Why has he not presented “definitive proof” by now in the more than 50 lawsuits that have been rejected? Some have been rejected on Constitutional grounds but many have been rejected due to lack of evidence. The rationale for rejecting Trump’s lawsuits is given in the link below.

        https://tinyurl.com/y7mv4aht

        The summation of the article is

        “The President’s explanation for his record in court does not hold up under scrutiny. There are certainly isolated cases where judges did not consider the merits of the Trump campaign’s arguments. Specifically, he can point to the US Supreme Court, and a decision from the Wisconsin Supreme Court.
        Otherwise, even when his campaign’s lawsuits have been rejected for technical reasons – such as a lack of standing, or the laches doctrine – judges have gone out of their way to address the merits of its arguments as well.

        On multiple occasions, Mr Trump’s lawyers have been given the opportunity to present their much-hyped evidence in court, and have failed to do so.
        When they have offered purported evidence of fraud, such as in Nevada and Michigan, judges have invariably found it unconvincing.
        The President is certainly free to disagree with those judgments. But when he says judges refused to even hear the evidence, he is wrong.

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          I find the article linked to unconvincing.

          Those perverse judges and the journalists are predisposed to dismiss the arguments….knowing that the Trump campaign would run out of time for delaying the Electoral College decision if they took the time required to forensically check out and get affidavits and evidence on every breach….before taking it to court.

          Blind Freddie can see the opportunities for politically-inspired delaying tactics to prevent exposure….so in such a vitally important matter, there needs to be the ability to put a stay on moving forward to allow investigations and collection of evidence to proceed….before being timed out by institutions captured by the Long March of the Left.

          If there’s no time for that…the whole process should be ditched until it’s made democratic.

          The judges know…as any halfway-educated school student would know ….that the ‘standing’ issue is often a circular argument…where judges have denied ’standing’ in complaints brought before elections in an attempt to prevent fraud …due to the fact that the breach is hypothetical…the fraud not having yet occurred….then denied it again after the election when the fraud allegedly has occurred….with the claim that there’s no standing as the complaint should have been brought to light before the election.

          It’s hard to see that America will ever have a fair and democratic voting system until the electoral laws are fully national…and even then…as here….the Left will always find ways to try to steal elections as the Far Left’s late Frank Hardy described here re the 1987 election[ I think that was the year]…that was alleged to have been stolen.

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          PeterS

          Pure speculation like the rest of us. All I am doing is providing scenarios that might or might not play out. Only time will tell. It’s pointless asking questions like why hasn’t Trump provided definitive proof already. That’s his business not yours nor mine. If he has none then he’s just bluffing. If has it then he will release it in his good time. At least I’m honest enough to say I don’t know and so I will wait. We might have to wait even beyond Jan 20 but again let’s wait. Certainly we can speculate a variety of possible outcomes and weigh up their relative merits but even that can be a waste of time unless someone provides real evidence to support one over another. Since I don’t have access to a time machine I will just wait for the events to unfold as time rolls on.

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        OldOzzie

        US SECSTATE Mike Pompeo sticks it to China – Praise The Lord and pass the Australian wine!

        Penfolds Max’s 2017 Cabernet Sauvignon – have a couple of dozen of those in the cellar

        Tip to Jo Nova Followers – Join Penfolds Site – they have great specials, especially since China Bans

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      Delingpole: Lockdowns Were Inspired by the CCP, admits Professor Pantsdown

      Professor Neil Ferguson, the discredited Imperial College computer modeller behind Britain’s draconian lockdown policies, has come clean about his inspiration: none of it would have been possible without the shining example of the Chinese Communist Party.

      In an extraordinary interview with the Times (of London), Ferguson admits that if it hadn’t been for China’s example, no Western country would ever have dreamed of putting its populace under house arrest.

      Ferguson appears to find the idea of emulating a totalitarian state exciting rather than embarrassing or shaming because he boasts about it again later in the interview.

      That phrase ‘get away with it’ is instructive. It implies that, at least on a subconscious level, Ferguson is aware that copying Communist China’s lockdown policy was not a morally acceptable act, merely one that peculiar circumstances made possible.

      Though the lockdowns are unprecedented in modern history and have, in the UK, been responsible for the biggest collapse in GDP in 300 years, as well as the destruction of many thousands of businesses and hundreds of thousands of jobs, Ferguson shows zero contrition for having provided the computer modelled doomsday scenarios responsible for all this misery.

      Nor does he apologise for the incident during the first lockdown when he was caught breaking the rules he helped create by bonking his mistress at her place (not, obviously, at the home he shares with his wife). This earned him the soubriquet ‘Professor Pantsdown’ – as well as a reputation as a prize hypocrite.

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        IMO the comprehensive lockdowns were more a manifestation of the politicians’ fear of the health system being overwhelmed than of any desperation to copy China.

        At the beginning many of us were in favour of …and expected….lockdowns for the very vulnerable …the old and people of any age with co-morbidites….a cohort easily identified by the medical profession that was already treating them…and on the government’s radar because many were on the government’s books.

        We expected huge government and medical help to allow them to isolate…..and business as usual but with sensible precautions as for a really bad flu season for the rest of the community.

        But mixed messages and intermittent alarming information about vulnerabilities in younger people …about them being left with lifetime heart and neurological complications …soon confused that thinking. .

        IMO rather than copying the China model…..the Western governments were too afraid of political blowback from MSM……should the numbers of dead and damaged people grow exponentially as they seemed to be doing in Italy….and they neglected the one thing they could have done to prevent loss of life….put massive resources and constant forensic care into ensuring the vulnerable were completely quarantined from the rest of the community…no oldies having to stand in queues outside supermarkets at 7am to get food….strict …enforced rules and oversight of nursing homes and aged care workers etc…medications delivered to homes…making sure hospitals were well-equipped …..with BAU for the rest until a vaccine was developed….watch and wait until more information re the course of the virus in those infected …and in the community….emerged.

        Instead they neglected the targeted help for aged care and failed to cover all loopholes re cruise ships , air crews and quarantine ……in favour of comprehensive lockdown.

        And I think the Morrison government was derelict in throwing TPM around all over the place …but stolidly…incomprehensively … refusing …without explanation….to back the Australian vaccine project…at Flinders University…. that was the furthest advanced …..the most promising project with a team that had great international cred in research circles.

        That research has now received overseas funding and Australians will probably never benefit from it.

        Scott Morrison owes Australia an explanation about that and even more so about the ban on use of Ivermectin and Hydroxychloroquine for COVID treatment…with medical bureaucrats and politicians virtually telling Australians and certain medical people to just shut up and do as they were told ….an anti-democratic brush-off which has within it the seeds of massive scepticism and dangerous mistrust of the medical community and government for the future IMO.

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      China’s virus deceptions have been even worse than we thought

      By Post Editorial Board

      Fresh evidence published jointly by The New York Times and ProPublica confirms that Beijing has been trying to keep COVID-19 information from the rest of the world since the very start of the pandemic.

      On Feb. 7, Li Wenliang, the doctor who blew the whistle on COVID-19, died of the disease he’d warned the world about. While working at Wuhan Central Hospital in China’s Hubei Province, he saw a new version of the severe acute respiratory syndrome known as SARS, which also originated in China in 2002.

      As news of the 34-year-old doctor’s untimely death spread and grief went viral on social media such as Weibo and WeChat — Beijing set out to bury the truth.

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      OldOzzie

      Lockdown: a deadly, failed experiment

      It has been a global catastrophe. We must never go down this road again.

      And yet the harms of the policy are extreme. Developed countries have this year experienced record drops in economic output. Britain, for instance, has experienced its worst recession in 300 years (since the Great Frost of 1709, if you were wondering). The burden of this has fallen overwhelmingly on the poorest in society, while billionaires have watched their wealth multiply. In the developing world, the World Bank estimates that an additional 150million people will fall into ‘extreme poverty’.

      Children have born a disproportionate brunt of the lockdowns – even though children face very minor risks from Covid and school closures are not associated with reduced transmission. Nevertheless, an estimated 1.5 billion children – 87 per cent – have been affected by school closures around the world. There is now an obscene gulf in access to education between rich and poor, between the privately and state educated, and between those with access to home learning via the internet and those without.

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        Kalm Keith

        That’s getting to the heart of the matter; the extraordinary damage done to mum and dad and the kids and the family small business.

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        Lawrie

        What’s the betting that those additional people in poverty will be blamed on capitalism and global warming? Last year saw the biggest food surpluses in history and the fewest people going hungry with most hunger in, strangely enough, socialist countries. What will it take to tell the great unwashed that they are being taken for a ride by government and the media?

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    Rage Against The Machine – It’s Simple Really, President Trump Asks Legislative Branch to Use COVID Relief to Help Americans No-One Else

    As noted yesterday, a simple COVID relief bill for American workers is really not a big problem… except it is… because the DC system is not structured around simply helping Americans first. The legislative machinery is owned by K-Street and multinationals who pay for the outcomes they alone create.

    A people’s president, Donald Trump, cuts through the chaff and countermeasures:

    President Trump wants congress to re-write the $900 billion COVID bill to provide $2,000 per person instead of $600 per person. In essence Trump is asking for a stand alone COVID relief bill for $2k/person, then drop the $600/person payment out of the pork-laden COVID relief bill and start that economic relief bill over.

    This is not a hard issue to resolve. The only reason UniParty congress is fighting Trump is because the lobbyist and foreign government bribes are part of the $900 billion and will not pass the scrutiny of public opinion if standing alone. Once you see the strings on the marionettes you can never return to that moment in time when you did not see them.

    Heavy sigh…

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    Peter Fitzroy

    The rot set in a long time ago.

    For example the Arecibo Radio telescope once the largest, has collapsed, due to insufficient maintenance by the US Government, who was its owner. Not that it matters, China built a bigger and better one a few years ago

    This is just one example of many where the former world leader has lost both the will to excel but the capability to compete.

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      Biden Meddles with Donald Trump’s Middle East Legacy at his Peril

      It is worth remembering that, when President Trump took office, the region was still reeling from the dire consequences of former US President Barack Obama’s inept and naive handling of the region.

      By early January 2017, when Mr Trump took office, Iran was squandering the tens of billions of dollars it received for signing the nuclear deal, which Mr Obama had helped broker in 2015, on expanding its malign influence across the landscape of the Middle East.

      Mr Trump’s Middle East legacy… completely redefined the landscape of the region from the chaos and conflict that prevailed when Mr Obama left office. Nowadays, the momentum in the region is moving towards peace, not conflict….

      [T]he challenge for the incoming Biden administration now will be to see how it can pursue a different foreign policy agenda without jeopardising the very significant achievements that have been accomplished during Mr Trump’s tenure.

      Certainly, if the incoming Biden administration makes any serious attempt to undermine Mr Trump’s legacy in the Middle East, it will do so at its peril.

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      Biden’s Foreign Policy Appears to Rely on Policy of Negotiating With Tyrants

      A Biden administration, it’s been reported, will seek to change U.S. relations with Venezuela and its despotic leader Nicolas Maduro, preferring to seek “free and fair elections” and “offering sanctions relief in return” rather than continue with the Trump administration’s promise to only negotiate a Maduro surrender.

      Interesting choice by the ostensible American President-elect since the Venezuelan head of state tweeted out, the day after Christmas, praise for one of the worst mass murderers in human history, China’s Mao Zedong, while indicating his affinity for the leadership of the current Communist Party of China, Xi Jinping.

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    William Astley

    The events in 2020 are not over.

    Biden is not going to president. The US 2020 election results are going to become meaningless. Biden and the Washington Dems and congress are/is going to become meaningless, based on what has happened in 2020 and there is now evidence that the US Milt have activated a Plan. Logically based on what real events in 2020 (not fake media), it is possible now to predict what the US Milt’s Plan is.

    Politics is all talk. No action.

    The last line of defense for the US, if the US is under attack, and the civilian government is not responding;

    Is a high security, very special Milt group, that has staff, funds, and access to an AI.

    That group, officially keeps the US state secrets, and officially manages issues, that are not shared with the civilian government or another US Military branch.

    This is the group, in the US Military, that is officially responsible, for addressing extraordinary problems, that require extraordinary solutions, such as the replacement of the civilian government for multiple reasons. In case of what happened in 2020, there were more than, four independent redlines crossed, and one of which, by itself, would have required the replacement of the civilian government.

    The US is the only democratic country that allocates sufficient resources to the military, to have such a group. This is the last line of defense for the democratic world.

    An extraordinary problem is a problem that the civilian government or other branches of the US Milt are not capable of responding to, for logical reasons.

    Every ‘democratic’ country and particularly the US, in the world, failed to stop/cure covid, using effective existing medicines. That was a Military Red line, as the US Milt determined covid is a manufactured bio weapon that was released by the Chinese. That also was a Milt red line. Both redline issues went to the same US high security group, that is independent of the civilian government. That group has real thinkers, scientists and from time to time has access to an AI. There is a serious and creative group.

    The Chinese now have control of the media and most of the democratic countries’ governments. The US is losing a propaganda war concerning the truth about covid. There has been new releases of covid by the Chinese that defeat the new vaccines, it appears for both commercial and political reasons. The US people and the citizens of the other countries do not understand what covid is. That is a US Milt red line.

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    An Essential Man

    In this climactic battle of our decades-long culture war, we need to win—or be prepared to lose in ways beyond imagining.

    Once upon a time, there was a president called Ronald Reagan—a model of decency and probity, at once great and self-effacing, who, above all, was truly in love with America and saw it as his sacred mission to preserve and strengthen American freedom. During his eight-year tenure, he revitalized the U.S. economy, snapped us out of what his disastrous predecessor had referred to as “our malaise,” and helped bring down the Soviet Union.

    Then he walked off into the sunset. And for the next seven presidential terms, we had to make do with mediocrity and self-dealing. Both parties were dominated by crime families—sorry, I mean political dynasties. The Bushes were uninspiring. The Clintons were pure slime.

    A Lone Hero

    During his presidency, Trump has seemed almost to be acting alone, with members of his own administration and party lined up against him. Except in the final days of Richard Nixon’s presidency, when have we ever seen a president so alone? When in recent American history, except during the New York mayoralty of Rudy Giuliani, had so positive a turnaround been so obviously attributable to a single individual?

    Finally, the ultimate culture war atrocity: a manifestly stolen election.

    The theft was breathtaking in the insane lust for power, and the contempt for opponents, that made it possible. It was stunning in its brazenness. Which made sense: for decades, as it had advanced apace—in what has been called “the long march through the institutions”—the counterculture had grown used to easy conquests. It apparently hadn’t expected much in the way of resistance this time, either.

    The whole scenario is quite clear. They’re just like schoolyard bullies. Because Trump supporters are honest, good-mannered, and peaceable, they take us for wimps.

    But we can’t let their passivity prevail. We need to make it clear that, peaceable though we are, we’re not wimps—and we’re not suckers. In this climactic battle of our decades-long culture war, we need to win—or be prepared to lose in ways beyond imagining.

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      Trump: The American David

      One of President Trump’s most prescient statements to the American electorate leading up to the November vote was, “They’re not after me, they’re after you, I’m just in the way.” The question that everyone should want to fully grasp now is, who is the “they” that Trump has repeatedly referred to, and what do they want to do to you and to America?

      This “they” goes beyond the Democrat Party and Joe Biden. Biden is not only a weak political leader, but many are just now learning for the first time after the election, because of pre-election media censorship, that Biden family corruption ranks up there with the Clinton family crime syndicate.

      What this says about the power brokers behind Biden who knew everything about him is that they prefer a weak and compromised leader, who is easier to control and influence so as to assure that their interests and goals are carried out. They own Joe Biden.

      No wonder we are where we are. There is no way that a majority of reasonably well-informed Americans can embrace what the Democrat Party has become — a party that has accommodated the radical Gang of Four’s [email protected] hatred of America and aligned its interests with Antifa and Black Lives Matter — facilitating wholesale destruction of property and prolonged disruption of commerce in major cities across the country. Winning an Electoral College majority was all but impossible without media dishonesty, omission and censorship, and massive vote fraud.

      America is fortunate to have Donald Trump as president, who despite his shortcomings, is indisputably a leader with the essential quality of courage for a time such as this. Let us hope that day by day more consequential Davids will come forward to play their part in doing what is necessary to pull us back from the edge of the moral and political abyss, and in so doing not only save but propel America, and other countries who look to us, to be delivered to the upside of greater peace, opportunity, and well-being.

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      Lawrie

      I agree with what you say but what I do not understand is how the Republican hierarchy can sit by and will Biden to win. Do they not comprehend that those 75 million plus, and by now many more, who would normally support Republican candidates are incensed by the traitorous actions of McConnell, Romney and many others including lesser lights in state legislatures and will punish them at their next election. Does it matter if McConnell has money and powerful friends if no one votes for him? From what I have seen and read state Republicans will have their political careers cut short if they fail to support the President. I may be wrong, and please tell me if I am, but those state Republicans have the power to recall the electors and either change them or just decertify the vote in their state due to their inability to guarantee the result. Why don’t they act when they should know that those who elected them want a Trump victory? Are they that stupid or are they compromised like the judges?

      Trump knows that he is not alone. The swamp dwellers may have deserted but at least half the country is firmly behind him.

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    robert rosicka

    There is now an official call to silence anyone who dares question the outcome of the US election .

    https://www.theepochtimes.com/michigan-attorney-general-wants-sanctions-for-lawyers-questioning-election-results_3633527.html?fbclid=IwAR3s_TXaIi09WU3vh90IqaYfz26tik6EOTEtMd27IACOxTepCEJm5rIzU4g

    This is how socialism gets a foot hold .

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    OldOzzie

    ‘The Elements of the China Challenge’: A Reply to Critics

    In mid-November, the State Department’s Policy Planning Staff — I serve as the director — published “The Elements of the China Challenge.” The paper argues that the core of the challenge consists of the concerted efforts by the Chinese Communist Party to reconfigure world order to serve the CCP’s authoritarian interests and aims. It explains the errors that nourished the hope on both the right and the left that economic liberalization in China, coupled with Western engagement and incorporation of Beijing into international organizations, would bring about China’s political liberalization. It describes the characteristic practices of the communist dictatorship, traces China’s brazen programs of economic co-optation and coercion in every region of the world, examines the Marxist-Leninist dogma and hyper-nationalist beliefs that provide the intellectual sources of the CCP’s quest for global supremacy, and surveys China’s vulnerabilities — both those endemic to authoritarian regimes and those specific to the People’s Republic of China. In conclusion, the paper lays out a framework for securing freedom.

    Reaction to the paper has been instructive. The Chinese Communist Party responded with ritual denunciation. In contrast, public intellectuals, scholars, and public officials from around the world have expressed appreciation for the Policy Planning Staff’s efforts to gather in one place the evidence of the CCP’s predatory policies, to distill the party’s governing ambitions, and to sketch a way forward for the United States and all nations dedicated to preserving the free, open, and rules-based international order. The best of the American responses to the paper have coupled praise, in some cases grudging, with strictures, sometimes angry, about the paper’s limitations. The domestic criticisms are especially revealing, both for the serious issues they raise and for the misconceptions that they promulgate.

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      The
      Elements of the China Challenge

      by The Policy Planning Staff, Office of the Secretary of State

      Executive Summary

      Awareness has been growing in the United States — and in nations around the world — that the Chinese Communist Party (CCP) has triggered a new era of great-power competition. Yet few discern the pattern in China’s inroads within every region of the world, much less the specific form of dominance to which the party aspires.

      The CCP aims not merely at preeminence within the established world order — an order that is grounded in free and sovereign nation-states, flows from the universal principles on which America was founded, and advances U.S. national interests —but to fundamentally revise world order, placing the People’s Republic of China (PRC) at the center and serving Beijing’s authoritarian goals and hegemonic ambitions.

      In the face of the China challenge, the United States must secure freedom.

      China is a challenge because of its conduct. Modeled on 20th-century Marxist-Leninist dictatorship, the CCP eventually spurred rapid modernization and produced prodigious economic growth — thanks in no small measure to the party’s decision in the late 1970s to embrace free-market elements and to the decision by the United States and nations around the world to engage, and welcome commerce with, China. The party today wields its economic power to co-opt and coerce countries around the world; make the societies and politics of foreign nations more accommodating to CCP specifications; and reshape international organizations in line with China’s brand of socialism. At the same time, the CCP is developing a world-class military to rival and eventually surpass the U.S. military. These actions enable the CCP to credibly pursue the quest — proceeding outward through the Indo-Pacific region and encompassing the globe — to achieve “national rejuvenation” culminating in the transformation of the international order.

      To understand China’s peculiar form of authoritarianism and the hegemonic goals to which it gives rise, it is necessary to grasp the intellectual sources from which China’s conduct springs: the CCP’s Marxist-Leninist beliefs and the party’s extreme interpretation of Chinese nationalism.

      50 Pages plus EndNotes Page 51-72

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    Richard Ilfeld

    We have a President who, at the moment, is holding up bills that the swamp considers essential.
    At a minimum, if he calls an oval office speech to talk about them and other issues, there will be universal coverage,
    as opposed to zero coverage if he simply wanted to talk about election fraud.
    That the congress had five months to handle COVID relief on a standalone basis, but did not, and then
    wrapped this minimus, that pays as much to teachers who haven’t worked but haven’t missed a paycheck as it does to
    those whose jobs the government effectively eliminated, is fact, and gives him a good starting point.
    Laying out a simple list of things that could be done for the American people, instead of the things the bill does
    around the world will be powerful; there may be nuance there but the audience for this speech neither needs nor appreciates it.
    When he moves into election fraud;
    Perhaps he makes his case.
    Perhaps the major media cut him off, which make his case for him, especially if he sticks to an evidence based litany for this
    speech.
    Overt censorship of the President of the United States in mid address might well change the terms of engagement.
    He needs to layout such clear alternatives for the congress that they look like traitors to the population if they don’t go along.
    He needs to establish the parameters the the courts must examine the election, in public, with normal rules of evidence.

    If various officials have “lost” records, this must be established under oath, not just administratively.
    There is enough garden variety fraud and mail-in bs to reverse this thing without the Dominion fight.

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      Lance

      Richard, I’m afraid you are not seeing that this scenario has played out before.

      In 2007, there was a US Economic crisis. Congress gave G. W. Bush a budget proposal. It contained both the US 2008 standard budget, but bundled into it the “Toxic Asset Relief Program” (TARP) at $870 Billion, intended to stimulate and stabilize the Economy on a “one shot go”. Bush signed it. Obama was subsequently elected (?).

      From 2008 until 2016, no new budget was passed in the US.
      In such cases, “the last duly signed and lawful budget remains in effect”.

      By NOT passing a budget, Obama gained $870 Billion in “free money” every year he was in office, in addition to the normal budget.

      The exact same ploy is being tried again.

      Dems & Reps created a new budget. $1,430 Billion for the US Govt + $970 Billion for “Covid Relief”, $2.4 Trillion USD. Lumped together in an “inseparable package”. This is what was given to Trump. Oh. Yes. It included $600 for every qualified adult person earning less than $75,000.

      The intention of this “package” is to provide a President Biden with an “extra” $970 Billion each year during his tenure by, yet again, not passing a budget.

      Trump wisely rejected it on the premise that it “doesn’t give sufficient relief to qualified citizens”. He asked for $2000 per and sent it back to Congress. This forces them to either acquiesce to his demand, separate the funding items, or punt.

      Once the Congress does whatever it is they want to do, they will send it back to the Senate for concurrence, then onward to President Trump. This takes time. Someone will be President on 20 Jan 2021.

      In the meantime, if President Trump receives the new legislation not earlier than 10 Jan 2021, he can choose to do “Nothing”. In which case, the budget bill “dies quietly of neglect”. We call that a Pocket Veto. This is the likely path.

      If he receives it earlier than 10 Jan 2021, he can find some other excuse to send it back. Lather, Rinse, Repeat.
      His valid reasons to send it back are: Congress did not address Section 230 revisions to reign in abuses by Google, FB, Twitter, MSM, etc, and he can demand the funding items be separated to prevent future abuse of the taxpayer.

      The purpose of this is to avoid the possibility of expanding US Debt by $970 Billion each year, and to punt the budget decision to the next sitting president, hopefully, himself, at which time he would be in a very powerful position or at least have prevented a future economic catastrophe such as Obama created ( > $7 Trillion in excess debt ).

      In the meantime, the Covid Lockdown abuses of authority are reaching a boiling point. The authoritarians want compliance and the Citizenry are about to revoke the consent of the Governed. As well, a plethora of damning evidence is about to unleash.

      There are a good many things happening simultaneously. Trump could care less about negotiating with liars, criminals, and traitors, at the present time.

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    Richard Ilfeld

    We have a President who, at the moment, is holding up bills that the swamp considers essential.
    At a minimum, if he calls an oval office speech to talk about them and other issues, there will be universal coverage,
    as opposed to zero coverage if he simply wanted to talk about election fraud.
    That the congress had five months to handle COVID relief on a standalone basis, but did not, and then
    wrapped this minimus, that pays as much to teachers who haven’t worked but haven’t missed a paycheck as it does to
    those whose jobs the government effectively eliminated, is fact, and gives him a good starting point.
    Laying out a simple list of things that could be done for the American people, instead of the things the bill does
    around the world will be powerful; there may be nuance there but the audience for this speech neither needs nor appreciates it.
    When he moves into election fraud;
    Perhaps he makes his case.
    Perhaps the major media cut him off, which make his case for him, especially if he sticks to an evidence based litany for this
    speech.
    Overt censorship of the President of the United States in mid address might well change the terms of engagement.
    He needs to layout such clear alternatives for the congress that they look like traitors to the population if they don’t go along.
    He needs to establish the parameters the the courts must examine the election, in public, with normal rules of evidence.

    If various officials have “lost” records, this must be established under oath, not just administratively.
    There is enough garden variety fraud and mail-in bs to reverse this thing without the Dominion fight.

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      Wow, and thanks,
      One of these has put out of action a pharmaceutical factory producing precursor chemicals for HVQ in Taiwan!
      ” With the Baltimore Gas and Electric building in Baltimore, Maryland suffering a massive explosion on Wednesday that injured at least 21 people, and that explosion following by just days an unexplained explosion and fire that destroyed the world’s second largest pharmaceutical factory producing precursors for hydroxychloroquine in Taiwan, those 3 explosions within a week could be looked at as signs we should all be prepared for an ‘explosive’ 2021 in the year ahead. ”

      Cheers
      Dave B

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    Ando

    Milosovic didnt have to twist anyones arm, his war of bloodthirsty terror had widespread support amongst serbs and even from other orthodox nations like russia and greece. Every non serb house in my grandmothers village was ransacked, shot up and belongings stolen by the handfull of local serbs that lived there under that fascist chetnik symbol displayed at the start of the clip. They committed the most heinous crimes imaginable wherever their superior firepower went (vukovar, srebenica, dubrovnik, etc) in full view of the world. They have absolutely nothing whatsoever in common with current American struggle.

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    Lance

    Apparently, Trump signed the combined Covid + Omnibus budget.

    But. He added what is called a “signing statement” that requires the Senate and Congress to accept his revisions, which are many.

    If they don’t accept his revisions, it means “Go back to square one and try again”.

    The only way that Congress and Senate accept the revisions is if they unequivocally believe Biden will be president.

    I. Don’t . Think. So.

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      OldOzzie

      President Trump Signs Stimulus and Government Spending Bill

      President Trump released a statement announcing his decision to sign the relief bill in which he said, “I will never give up my fight for the American people”:

      As President of the United States it is my responsibility to protect the people of our country from the economic devastation and hardship that was caused by the China Virus. I understand that many small businesses have been forced to close as a result of harsh actions by Democrat-run states. Many people are back to work, but my job is not done until everyone is back to work. Fortunately, as a result of my work with Congress in passing the CARES Act earlier this year, we avoided another Great Depression. Under my leadership, Project Warp Speed has been a tremendous success, my Administration and I developed a vaccine many years ahead of wildest expectations, and we are distributing these vaccines, and others soon coming, to millions of people. As President, I have told Congress that I want far less wasteful spending and more money going to the American people in the form of $2,000 checks per adult and $600 per child. As President I am demanding many rescissions under the Impoundment Control Act of 1974. The Act provides that, “whenever the President determines that all or part of any budget authority will not be required to carry out the full objectives or scope of programs for which it is provided, or that such budget authority should be rescinded for fiscal policy or other reasons (including termination of authorized projects or activities for which budget authority has been provided), the President shall transmit to both Houses of Congress a special message” describing the amount to be reserved, the relevant accounts, the reasons for the rescission, and the economic effects of the rescission. 2 U.S.C. § 683. I will sign the Omnibus and Covid package with a strong message that makes clear to Congress that wasteful items need to be removed. I will send back to Congress a redlined version, item by item, accompanied by the formal rescission request to Congress insisting that those funds be removed from the bill. I am signing this bill to restore unemployment benefits, stop evictions, provide rental assistance, add money for PPP, return our airline workers back to work, add substantially more money for vaccine distribution, and much more. On Monday the House will vote to increase payments to individuals from $600 to $2,000. Therefore, a family of four would receive $5,200. Additionally, Congress has promised that Section 230, which so unfairly benefits Big Tech at the expense of the American people, will be reviewed and either be terminated or substantially reformed. Likewise, the House and Senate have agreed to focus strongly on the very substantial voter fraud which took place in the November 3 Presidential election. The Senate will start the process for a vote that increases checks to $2,000, repeals Section 230, and starts an investigation into voter fraud. Big Tech must not get protections of Section 230! Voter Fraud must be fixed! Much more money is coming. I will never give up my fight for the American people!

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        PeterPetrum

        You have to give him credit for tenacity in the face of what seems to be total lack of support from both houses of Congress.

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    Analitik

    Someone (apologies to them, I forget who it was) put a link to this video shortly after it was made and I’ll make the same observation as I did then.

    The Serbians all knew the election was a scam and readily united against the state. In the US, probably half the population still believe Biden’s “win” was legitimate and that Trump’s allegations really are “baseless”. Given this, a Serbian style revolt would not only have up stand against the state but also a major portion of the population with widespread violence a guaranteed result.

    The power of the “independent” media is difficult to understate.

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      Lance

      When the Citizens revoke the “Consent of the People”, all authority of Govt is revoked.

      Only “The People”, the Governed, by their consent, provide legitimacy to any vestige of legitimate authority.

      Government may intimidate an individual, but cannot intimidate a Nation of People who have decided to Live Free or Die.

      No Elite have any Power that is not Allowed by the People. There are many millions more “little people” than “elite people”.

      In America, the Backup Plan is the 2nd Amendment, the Constitution, Inalienable Rights, and Almighty God.

      Smart Elite people will recognize this before their machinations undue their illusions. No Kidding.

      Trump is trying to resolve things peacefully. > 150 Million armed people stand behind him. Give that a thought.

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        Analitik

        > 150 Million armed people stand behind him.

        And the ~170 million who don’t will not see any action outside the legislature and courts as being legitimate because the mainstream media have them doubtful, if not dismissive of mass electoral fraud. While many will be woke, SJW, internet warrior types, there will be enough law enforcement and military personnel that will follow directives issued through legal processes and we know who ultimately controls these.

        Sadly, Trump’s demeanor and personality make it easy for him to be portrayed as making the illegitimate claim for the presidency to many. I know generally conservative people here who instantly dismiss the challenges because they lack the motivation to seek out more than what is presented by the mainstream media and when pressed, it’s due to “Orange Man Bad”.

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    Antoine D'Arche

    just watched Sky News while I had lunch – talk about fair weather friends. What a bunch of turncoats. Joe Biden this. Trump gone. Biden elected. Inherits a troubled economy. Not a word about Trump’s economic gains pre-Covid. ZERO mention of ANY of the evidence. Even Paul Murray referred to Biden as President-Elect from Saturday the 7th Nov. What a dill.
    Hope you clowns are reading this. People like you are the reason people like us have to work so hard, and endure so much, because you don’t have the spine to do your job properly. Yes Paul, even you.
    Steve Turley is right and thank god. The age of mass media is over. Sky and all the rest of them can die in the arse. Network media like this site is the future.

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    Lance

    I much prefer dangerous Liberty to safe and peaceful Slavery. (Paraphrasing Thomas Jefferson)

    Citizens don’t ask permission. Only Slaves do so.

    “To learn who rules over you, simply look to those you cannot criticize.” – Voltaire

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      Lucky

      Lance,
      The majority are not concerned about asking permission, or being quiet on some topics, the majority want to be approved by the rulers and celebrities, and praised for doing the right thing.

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    EWM

    Too late. In his reelection campaign, President Trump declares, “America will never be a socialist country” … well … except for:
    Social Security
    Medicare
    Medicaid
    Public (i.e., government) schooling
    The federal income tax
    Welfare
    Public housing
    Education grants
    Farm subsidies
    Food stamps
    Corporate bailouts
    Stimulus payments
    Immigration controls
    The welfare state
    The military establishment
    The Federal Reserve
    Amtrak
    The Postal Service
    The Tennessee Valley Authority
    Federally owned lands

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    Philip

    The people of the USA will do no such thing. Vastly different circumstances between the two countries. While there is a mass opposition, its an equal division. A huge amount of people vehemently detest Trump and support the media. They want the old establishment and they want it now.

    Any type of mass march will be just that, a march, which will be ignored, could be 5 million in the streets, 10 (it wont be), its irrelevant. Next step go violent ? And the US army will crush you, to messages of Lincoln propaganda.

    People know that, and they wont do it. They’ll take it, and get on with things. And the world wont slip, but slump further to the left, and windmills will run over the landscapes, and the power of production will be left with China.

    That’s what will happen.

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