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Al Gore says climate change is like slavery

Al Gore’s new move is to wrap the global warming religion in with a bucket-list of “moral movements”, evidently targeting the naive souls who seek an Instant Life’s Mission, and / or  approval from sorority girls:

Al Gore: battle against climate change is like fight against slavery

The fight against global warming is one of humanity’s great moral movements, alongside the abolition of slavery, the defeat of apartheid, votes for women and gay rights, according to the former US vice-president and climate campaigner, Al Gore.

He forgets to add the defeat of Hitler and eradication of small pox. Though he gets points for finding a way to quote Martin Luther King Jnr: “No lie can live forever”.

Gore piles on the “industrial revolution” — apparently confusing actual working steam engines that move twenty thousand tons with solar cars whose weight is measured in kilograms and whose load bearing capacity is not even mentioned:

The battle to halt climate change can be won, he said, because the green revolution delivering clean energy is both bigger than the industrial revolution and happening faster than the digital revolution.

But he mixes up the exponential theoretical prospects of renewables with the exponential rising price of electricity.

He appears to be launching a new advertising theme for the climate change movement now that “the science” meme is wearing out:

“The climate movement should be seen in the context of the great moral causes that have transformed and improved the outlook for humanity,” he told the Ashden green energy awards ceremony.

Prophet Gore speaks to disciples:

“When the central issue was thus framed in stark relief because of who we are as human beings, the outcome became foreordained,” Gore said.

And Thus and Verily did the people come forth to hold back tides, stop storms and generally felt Very Self Important, fulfilled, and full of Global Smugness.

h/t Climate Depot

9.8 out of 10 based on 115 ratings

145 comments to Al Gore says climate change is like slavery

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    Rereke Whakaaro

    You have to hand it to Gore. He is a very good orator, in the bible belt tradition.

    I did originally type “great”, instead of “good”, in that sentence, but he is no Churchill or Roosevelt.

    He is, I understand, also under investigation by several Government committees who are pushing back against the “science” (or lack thereof) in his previous persona.

    Hence the shift to a religious thrust, I guess. Congress will judge him now. A deity will wait.

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      Yonniestone

      Wouldn’t it be simpler to call him a lying sack of immoral sh!t?

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      Roy Hogue

      He is a very good orator, in the bible belt tradition.

      Snake oil salesman is more like it, RW. Same basic skill but with a purpose he doesn’t want to disclose. He’s almost Omama-esque in the way he goes about his slick tongued oratory. But he’ll never surpass Obama.

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      OriginalSteve

      The irony is that the Left have no discernable morals, hence any form of appeal on a morality ground are impossible by definition, and are pure crocodile tears

      In the ongoing Left wing tradition of “ends justify the means” lack of morality this makes sense, but a religious approach implies some form of moral code, whereas the Left seems to be nhilistic in nature….

      Hitler was know to be involved in the occult and black majick, which often surfaces in appalling/volcanic tempers & “silver tongues” of such individuals. Hullary comes to mind, apparently she outranks B*ll in that space….

      OT – from a Christian perspective, scripture says we all have to give an account of ourselves after death to God, and in that moment, those who have done very bad things will have no where to hide, no excuses will hold, and will be sorted in the most perfect moment of justice. I feel sad for bad people who have been mislead by the Devil, probably offered earthly trinkets of power or money or sensual depravity as payment for their souls…..but in that moment of standing before YHWH, its all laid bare. We have a chance to be Godly here on earth, and no purgatory prayers can fix it after death.

      The Word also says to expose darkness and wrong doing, which is what people do with this CAGW stuff.

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      turnedoutnice

      The final judge of Gore’s hypocrisy was his wife, who divorced him when he bought a house at very near sea level. Women are slow to judge but when the feel they can afford to live on the alimony and have fun, they’ll scoot………..

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      clive

      My memory may be faulty here,but wasn’t it the”Progressive DemocRATS”who were fighting to KEEP slavery?And I do believe that it was Al Gore who had a”Slave”tobacco farm.Does he think we are TOO stupid to remember.

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    History will show Gore’s legacy next to Obama’s and many other contemporary Lefties as foolish politicians who allowed emotionally charged arguments to cloud their judgment about what is and what is not science whose result wasted billions of taxpayer dollars on an unachievable green fantasy the pursuit of which was supported solely by conjecture, dubious models, hearsay and rhetoric.

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      Graeme No.3

      Unfortunately too many believe him. “If we wish hard enough it will happen” and unicorns will push aside the barriers of scientific and engineering principles.

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        It’s inevitable that the science will eventually be corrected and the hardly discernible effect incremental atmospheric CO2 has on the temperature, which BTW is below the lower bound presumed by the IPCC, will be far outweighed by its benefits to agriculture and even the benefits to man from warmer temperatures. It’s exceptionally hard to maintain a deception of this magnitude, especially when the administration is not in cahoots with the deceptive science, so I expect this will happen during the current administration. When it does, Gore will be exposed as the disingenuous, hypocritical charlatan that he is and going forward, he will be remembered mostly for being exactly that. .

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          sophocles

          It’s going to be interesting watching all the hand-waving and listening to the sophistry of the attempts to explain away the Northern Hemisphere crop failures over the last eight months… 🙂

          North America has been hit quite hard. So it will all start with: “A Hard Winter …” with “Natural Variation …” in there and “It was weather which is not climate …” 🙂

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      Rereke Whakaaro

      I think Gore is just a showman with no substance, and certainly no great intellect.

      Obama, on the other hand had real intent in what he did. But it was not, in my opinion, for the benefit of the American people. He gave, and gives the impression of working to a script, that was, and is, for the benefit of others. I guess he might go down in history, as the best American President that money could buy at the time.

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        Horace Jason Oxboggle

        Obama was just trying to become the first recipient of a Bar to his Nobel Prize!

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          Radical Rodent

          Yes… a curious choice at the time – even before he was inaugurated. Since then, he dropped bombs on every day of his presidency. Some peace-monger; some Peace Prize winner. It left the Nobel Institute with a very bad smell of corruption.

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        Manfred

        Somewhat weak on specifics, Obango silkily promised ‘change’ in his campaign. And by Zeus, they got country, social and economy shattering ‘change’ the likes of which have never been seen. Eco-Marxist globalism made ground. Whether the US (and the rest of us) in the West can recover from the toxic overdose of the Saul Alinsky remains to be seen.

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          Russ Wood

          In South Africa, the Zuma-led ANC government is promising radical economic change. So far, they’ve reduced the country’s economy to ‘junk’ status internationally, and show every intent of destroying the remaining mining and agricultural (exporting) industries. Radical change indeed! However, there’s a bright side – many of the ANC big-wigs and their friends have got VERY rich, and the Dubai economy (where there’s no extradition or tax agreements) has ‘radically’ improved!

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      Dennis

      I wonder if Malcolm has considered the way history will judge him.

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      Alfred (Melbourne)

      “foolish politicians who allowed emotionally charged arguments to cloud their judgment”

      You are too kind.

      They are playing to the gallery and they have controllers who tell them what to say. They even display it for them on the teleprompter.

      “Obama Stuttering Mess After Teleprompter Freezes”

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tjjuE1TtKjo

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    Spetzer86

    Wonder if Al was carefully referring to history with the slavery reference? His home state of Tennessee officially seceded from the Union in support of slavery. Another Democrat on the “wrong side of history”?

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    No lie can live forever

    What Gore really means is:

    A lie told often enough becomes the truth. – Lenin

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    RobK

    Let me get this straight, he is saying de-industrialization is liberating. I for one, strongly disagree with his premise and would go so far as to say; rejection of the CO2 conjecture is vital if mankind is really to overcome slavery in all it’s forms.

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    Mark M

    Charlie Munger says Al Gore is ‘not very smart,’ but became filthy rich using this simple investing formula.

    Though the comments were made more than four months ago, they went largely unnoticed and have not been widely reported on elsewhere.

    http://www.cnbc.com/2017/06/23/buffett-partner-munger-says-al-gore-is-an-idiot-but-became-rich.html

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    Dennis

    The man knows no shame.

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    manalive

    The fight against global warming is one of humanity’s great moral movements, alongside the abolition of slavery …

    According to the UN there are around 30 million slaves in the world today, that’s probably more than ever IMO.
    Why doesn’t fat Al turns his prodigious international weight behind a genuine moral crusade?
    BTW modern slavery could have contributed to Al’s wealth due to the sale of his part-owned TV channel to Al Jazeera.

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      J Cuttance

      Interestingly, because of America’s vast prison system and the work performed in it, the U.S. has more indentured labour now than it did pre-civil war.

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    tom0mason

    Obviously nasty Al Gore is divisively attempting to put race and skin color into his convenient nonsense about climate. Just another ignorant Dimocrat using deception, dishonesty and misrepresentation, this time about the climate, as a method to divide people for an opportunistic political purposes.

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    sophocles

    I disagree strongly with Gore. It’s what is threatened post Paris Agreement which may be far worse and much more restrictive than what we have now. That will be a form of society I don’t think many of us will like.

    The European Union’s bureaucratic government is not at all democratic. Yes, it has a parliament, a toothless and powerless speaking arena for the self important Euro-MPs. What value is that? The most recent treaty proposal is looking to extinguish national sovereignty. So far, the Government by Desks has been relatively benign, incredibly wasteful, but benign. It’s lack of accountability is frightening.
    And it’s short-sightedness positively terrifying.

    Churchill once said that “Democracy is a terrible form of government; but it’s the best we’ve got. We should all bear that in mind, and be prepared to act and fight in its defence.

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      el gordo

      If the Australian federal parliament represents the best, then I’m prepared to consider an alternative.

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        sophocles

        What sort of alternative do you have in mind?

        If good people don’t make themselves available, leaving it to the riff-raff, then that’s what you get. Democracy works best if it’s citizens engage with and stay engaged. The pay is good; the riff-raff have seen to that and even they are held up to regular scrutiny at every election. Aus has compulsory voting, NZ doesn’t. However, there isn’t much, if any, difference between them.

        Democracy can’t work, or at least, not very well, without its citizens’ engagement. I note the US has `Civics’ classes throughout it’s school systems, so further education isn’t going to do it.

        If we don’t like what we’ve got, we have the option of standing for election to try and make a difference. If neither of us does, then we have to put up with what we get.

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          el gordo

          According to a 2013 Lowy Institute survey, 23% of Australians aged 18-29 don’t believe it matters what kind of government we have and 37 % say non-democratic rule can be best.

          At the moment we have a government and opposition that are in tandem on climate change, the most important issue of our time. Is democracy working in my interest?

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          el gordo

          The other point worth mentioning is that Chavez and Hitler came to power through democracy, this from wiki.

          ‘By 1933, the Nazi Party was the largest elected party in the German Reichstag, which led to Hitler’s appointment as Chancellor on 30 January 1933. Following fresh elections won by his coalition, the Reichstag passed the Enabling Act, which began the process of transforming the Weimar Republic into Nazi Germany, a one-party dictatorship based on the totalitarian and autocratic ideology of National Socialism.’

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            OriginalSteve

            Agreed, however if 50% of your population are completely ignorant to Socialism and how evil it is, its a shoe in for the lefties.

            As I hjave said many times – those of us who have seen life need to talk to the 18-25s and educate them *now* about the dangers of socialism. Clearly they dont get education at school, and most schools & unis are infiltrated by screaming lefties as well….

            Time to push back.

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            sophocles

            I’m well aware of the history.

            I’m also well aware of the likelihood of retracing those steps.

            Buchenwald, Bergen-Belsen, Dachau, Flossenburg, Majdanek, Monowitz (Auschwitz), Treblinka and all the others will reappear in slightly different forms.

            Australia is already well ahead of the bunch with its “detention centres,” which are no better than the early Nazi Concentration Camps even if they aren’t quite as brutal, on Christmas Island, Manus Island and Nauru Island outside Australia, and within, there’s Northern at Darwin, Villawood at Sydney, Maribyrnong at Melbourne, Baxter at South Australia, Curtin in Western Australia, Sherger in Queensland to name a few of them.

            All they need now are for the Serco guards to be issued SS style uniforms and the gas chambers to be installed, and Australia will be complete. At present, you’re only half a step away from it, your country’s participation in the UN not withstanding.

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              el gordo

              Australia is a sovereign nation and has every right to round up illegals and deport them.

              By the way Venezuela’s inflation rate is running close to 800%, another socialist experiment bites the dust.

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                sophocles

                I am neither critisizing nor making any moral judgement. I am merely pointing out how Australia has all the repressive machinery in place in good quantity already. What it is currently used for is irrelevant. What matters is what it could be used for and that’s only a half step away.

                Good luck.

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                yarpos

                Australia has nothing like repressive machinery in good quantity, it needs lots of work to be really repressive. We just have tokenism which seems to be main thread of our political life these days.

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                RobK

                Soph,
                Every government has repressive machinery in place. I don’t think your characterization of the Australian Government is particularly fair. Any government has the potential to repress, absent checks and balances.

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          Griffo

          Right on Sopho,keep reading this blog for starters,keep on posting comments and we might chip away at the ignorance and propaganda served up in the ms media. Sign the petition to the parliament,we need more than 800 signatories.

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      Manfred

      It strikes me that conflating mechanisms of government with the political ideology of government may not be clear thinking. Democracy works well enough if the mechanisms of a constituency mandate are perceived to be adequately representative and unencumbered, subsuming the obvious, the freedom of speech, and constellation of other required ‘freedoms’

      Simply put, no other political ideology readily embraces the risk of not being elected.

      Far, far worse in my view, is the ideology of a totalitarian bureaucracy, a most pernicious form of faux-government, which is not in fact government as is commonly understood but ‘administration’. Unlike other political ideologies, it specialises in the devolution of responsibility and accountability. It is faceless and inhuman, unelectable and unelected. As a result it is inevitably doomed to be inhumane. It seems nascent in all bureaucracies, whether corporate, civil, or military, but in the normal course of things is corralled by oversight, as well as mechanistic checks and balances.

      Its facelessness appears evident in the proto-global edifice that is the EU and obvious for all to see at the UN, reeking as it does of an administration-in-waiting. In these incarnations on a grand scale I believe that it is terribly dangerous to the well being and future liberty of humanity.

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      PeterPetrum

      I think Churchill said “Democracy is the worst form of government, except for all the others”, but the meaning is similiar to that which you said.

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    stan stendera

    Jo would ban me forever if I expressed my thoughts on Al Gore. So I won’t, reluctantly.

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    RAH

    Gore, who flunked out of divinity school, can shove it where the sun don’t shine.

    There is a seachange that is occurring on the American and world scene that many don’t recognize, including Gore. The US legacy press has lost the ability to control the narrative and the same will happen in other places as well. The internet is responsible for this, allowing the common person to access a broad range of information quickly and easily. The world as we have known it is a changing. The fact that Trump was elected president and remains president and Republicans have won all 4 of the special elections that resulted is only the most visible and prominent evidence of this change. But the existence of this blog is another. As long as the states are not allowed to have control over content there will be a liberty bell ringing loud and clear.

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      sophocles

      The US legacy press has lost the ability to control the narrative and the same will happen in other places as well. The internet is responsible for this, allowing the common person to access a broad range of information quickly and easily.

      Only in the short term. The operative words are “legacy press.” Dinosaurs. Once the `power brokers’ can figure out how to stitch up the Internet (profitably, of course) then they will end up back in the driving seat, safely, yet again.

      It won’t take many generations to achieve that if you look at current schooling, the curricula the schools have imposed on them, the fragmentation and lacks, and see just what is coming out of the schools. Teach language skills? Only at the elite ones, the rest can learn that by absorption. Teach thinking skills? Same as language. Ha. Logic? Ha. Critical thinking? Stop trying to be funny.
      Information discovery? Nah, too hard.

      All those need good language, reading and comprehension skills. But dance seems way more important, drama and music, too. The world needs more Climate Symphonies. (Oh gawd). Entertaining the masses is
      far more important.

      Today’s children start life with significant education deficits. Poor things.

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        OriginalSteve

        Correct – which is why the UN must never *ever* be allowed to have control over ICANN

        “Today’s children start life with significant education deficits. Poor things.”

        Yes – this is by design. In the NWO they want ignorant & obedient worker bees who dont question….which is why our education system is dmbed down and why questioning “orthodoxy” submits the questioner to an inquisition of sorts ( look at history to see the main offenders ) but the similarities are stark – in efefct we have anew form of fuedalism emerging.

        I’d suggest given the poor state of education, its up to parents to teach kids to question and actually educate thier kids – for their own good….

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        OriginalSteve

        The alt press will be in trouble if ICANN wind up under UN control….

        The internet is like the printing press …. Its a form of rennaisance and the Elite hate it….

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          Russ Wood

          This is why, in England, “Stationers’ Hall” guild was created, to licence (and, of course, control) all printed matter.
          And, OS, on your earlier post on lacking education, it’s also notable that in South Africa the general standard of basic (public) education has dropped so far that the official Statistician has reported that the current generation’s parents were BETTER educated – even under the much-maligned ‘Bantu Education’ of the Nationalists. Possibly under the idea that an under-educated and under-informed populace will vote as they are told (lied) to. Note that the national broadcaster is totally controlled by the ANC, who also control a large proportion of the MSM.

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    Uncle Gus

    Yes, it’s like the fight against slavery. It’s a cause that even the worst blackguard can espouse for the worst reasons, and still come up smelling like roses.

    (Of course, if it actually gets colder in the nest fifty years, that comparison is not going to hold, is it?)

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    David Maddison

    Al Gore is a science fiction film maker. Nothing more, although the fiction presented in his work is dangerous and civilisation destroying.

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    TedM

    For once Al Gore is right. Slavery and climate change are both real, and neither is caused by CO2.

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    Neville

    Gore’s latest Sci fi flick gets two accurate reviews at IMDB . If we followed his fantasy and delusion “An Inconvenient Sequel” would entice us towards a giant, ongoing multi trillion $ PONZI scheme. Just more of Gore’s BS and fra-d. Just unbelievable nonsense.
    Al Gore uses Global Warming to get rich
    1/10
    Author: user-15159 from United States
    20 June 2017

    Al Gore left his job in 2001 a relatively poor man. A few years later he has made 200 million dollars on Global warming. He li-s to people and gets rich. He said ice would melt and ocean levels would rise in a decade or so but at the same time he bought a mansion on the beach in California. Al Gore is a li-r and this movie is just another attempt to peddle Global warming, which is nothing but a money-making tool for Gore and his ilk.

    Horrible and dreadfully predictable
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    Author: doleging from Columbus Ohio
    9 June 2017

    What is worse than Al Gore dribbling out more of his li-s about the planet we live on? First he invented the net and now he wants to remain credible after he himself stated the world would be burned up and gone by January 2016. Enough said. Al wants to be Nostradamus but falls short in every way. Leave the world to nature Al. Horrible and if I could give it a negative ten I would.

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      John F. Hultquist

      “…he bought a mansion on the beach in California.

      Just before separation she and he bought a place in Montecito CA with a view of the Pacific Ocean. Not actually on “the beach” — but if you can find exactly where it is/was; let others know.

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      mal

      The hockey stick graph in Inconvenient Truth was rally Al showing what would happen to his income if you believe the bb/s he was peddling.

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    John Smith

    Intersectional Politics
    Climate change = slavery = pay equality = equality equality = transgender rights = patriarchy = LGBTXXXXXX = open boarders = BLM = free government stuff = whatever trendy progressive issue.
    They no longer have enough room on their signs.
    Their latest and greatest bad idea.

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      Old44

      How about:
      What do we want: EVERYTHING
      When do we want it: YESTERDAY

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        OriginalSteve

        When you stand for everything, you stand for nothing.

        It takes backbone to actually stand up for yourself, something the Lefties recognize, which is why they try and scream at people to scare them into submission…..

        Good thing we have smartphones – it gives people th eillusion of intelligence while they are in reality being manipulated without realising it….

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        toorightmate

        How about:
        What do we want: WE DON’T KNOW
        When do we want it: NOW

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        Lionell Griffith

        And we want everyone else to pay for it and pay even more if we don’t get it.

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    Old44

    Just like, I can’t wait to see Manbearpig lined up against 300 cannon and 5000 riflemen with fixed bayonets. Be worth paying good money to see that.

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    Roy Hogue

    Al Gore is the snake oil salesman’s snake oil salesman, the cream of the crop. If he could put even half of his overactive imagination to work on useful projects just think of what beneficial things he could accomplish. With him pushing for it the whole world might even have clean water and cheap electricity by now, especially if the UN actually did anything remotely like its part of the job. And freedom, real freedom would be universal right across the globe.

    So why not Al? Why not? Because you chose to stuff your own pockets with other peoples money instead, that’s why not.

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      Curious George

      He uses the word “moral” when he means “morass”.

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      sophocles

      Al Gore and Morality are total strangers. It’s obvious from seeing his light touch with the truth in his film, “An Inconvenient Truth”.

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      Roy Hogue

      Oh goody! The red thumb bomber is back. It must have been something we said but I can’t imagine what it was.

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      OriginalSteve

      We should dredge up the infamous 10:10 eco snuff movies from time to time to remind punters how black the eco bondogglets hearts really are…

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    Quick, build more of them. That’s the answer.

    I guess climate change/global warming will get the blame for this too, eh!

    It seems that Infigen has downgraded their full year profit forecast, because, umm, the wind stopped blowing, and their wind plants slowed their power generation. (link to article) (The article from yesterday was on their ABC home page down the list a way, but then it vanished into the also rans after a few hours, where you had to go specifically looking for it, wonder why)

    The statement says:

    The current quarter is expected to include two of the lowest production months for Infigen’s current Australian operating assets.

    This current Quarter started a couple of days after the closure of Hazelwood.

    Wind power – expensive when it is delivering power, and even more expensive when it’s not delivering power.

    No wonder there’s a continuous never ending call to build more of them.

    Tony.

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      toorightmate

      Gives new meaning to:
      1,000 X 0 = 1,000,000 X 0 = 0

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      yarpos

      beggars belief that a “journalist” faced with a statement like when we have more unproductive assets we will generate more power and it will be cheaper, doesnt even ask how that might work. No, he just summarises it in key points. What an enquiring mind.

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      David Wood

      Renewable energy systems may be neither renewable nor sustainable

      When activists talk about “renewable energy’ they are normally referring to the fact that the sun continues to shine and that the earth is a fairly windy place. They completely forget to ask whether the apparatus needed to convert solar or wind energy into something actually useful, like electricity, is sustainable or renewable.
      Take, for example, a wind tower constructed to convert wind energy into electricity. Since it only has a useful life of around 20 to 25 years, at most, in order to determine if it is renewable and sustainable it is necessary to balance all of the energies which went into creating the tower in the first place, with the total energy it produces over its limited lifetime

      If the latter is less than the sum of the energies expended to;

      Mine and refine all of the materials used to build it
      to convert those materials into the various parts of the tower and deliver them to the construction site
      prepare the construction site, including clearing, levelling etc
      erecting the tower and ancillary equipment (roads transformers, power lines and the like)
      Site regeneration work when the tower fails or completes its useful life. This includes dismantling the tower and its foundations, recycling (if possible) or otherwise disposing of the materials in an environmentally acceptable manner, so as to return the site as nearly as possible to its original condition,
      then the tower will have shown itself to be neither renewable nor sustainable.

      In fact if the useful energy production over the lifetime of the tower does not exceed the total energies listed above, by a substantial margin, then its construction can only be seen as a wasteful exercise in futility, except perhaps for the rent and subsidy seeking owners of the tower and the land upon which it is built!

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      Lionell Griffith

      If it doesn’t work, we MUST do more of the same. If it does work, we MUST do more of the same. Then if it fails, we didn’t do enough so it is even more important to do more of the same.

      Heads they win. Tails you lose.

      It is supposed to be a one way street from the productive, to the non productive, to the parasitical, and finally to the morally criminal.

      Stop feeding them and the charade will soon collapse.

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    Dave in the States

    The battle to halt climate change can be won, he said, because the green revolution delivering clean energy is both bigger than the industrial revolution and happening faster than the digital revolution.

    That is just delusional.

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    Slavery was abolished by mechanisation and heavy industry; the emancipation of women was achieved by whitegoods produced by mechanisation and heavy industry. Not PC, just how it is.

    You want Jo Nova doing her science blog thing or slapping clothes on a rock down by the stream? Well?

    Now stop mucking about and turn on some serious power.

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      el gordo

      The slave business was most profitable up until the mid 19th century, when Christian values finally brought an end to it. By that time the issue had become politically polarised.

      The US civil war had a lot to do with the industrialised north being unhappy with the way the south distorted the market, slave labour still trumped mechanisation.

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        Andrew McRae

        That analogy is…
        Using Slaves :: Using Fossil Fuels
        Industrialised North :: Developed “First World” Countries
        Slaving South :: Developing “Third World” Countries

        Continuing the analogy…

        Civil War :: Trade War

        Holding the Union Together :: Keeping the illusion of consensus intact.

        Missouri was on both sides at one point :: China is a Developing Country for Emission Control (exemption) purposes and is a Developed Country for diplomatic and trade purposes, at the same time.

        General Lee :: Al Gore?

        Abraham Lincoln :: Trump?!?!? Nope, sorry, the analogy is busted at that point.

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      Griffo

      I think the contraception pill had more to do with the emancipation of women than the washing machine, but the vacuum cleaner seems to have a mystical attraction to the female of the species.

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    Hivemind

    “…climate change is like slavery”

    Indeed… I think what he is trying to say is that we will use fraudulent climate change to enslave the rich, white, men.

    Enslave rich people
    Enslave white people
    Enslave men of every colour.

    At last, he is finally speaking what is on his mind.

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    pat

    waking up to this on Macquarie Network radio news headlines was worse than Gore:

    24 Jun: DailyMail: AFP: Climate change more important than partisan politics: Schwarzenegger
    Former California governor Arnold Schwarzenegger urged people from both ends of the political spectrum to join a “crusade” to save the planet, after a Friday meeting with French President Emmanuel Macron.
    “It is absolutely imperative that we not make it a political issue,” he said.
    “This is not the right versus the left because there is no liberal air or conservative air. We all breathe the same air. There is no liberal water or conservative water, we all drink the same water,” the star of “The Terminator” movies said.

    “It is extremely important in order for us to be successful in creating a green and clean future for our children and grandchildren, which is a responsibility that we have, to hand the world in better shape to the next generation than we inherited it,” he said.
    “We all have to work together in order to get this done,” he said, adding that he and Macron had discussed the climate issue in depth during their meeting.

    He praised the French leader as a formidable force for France and for the world, particularly on environmental issues, which were something that “we both feel very passionate about.”…
    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/wires/afp/article-4634690/Climate-change-important-partisan-politics-Schwarzenegger.html

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      OriginalSteve

      The Elite are doubling down – clearly they are concerned they are about to be exposed, so now they will hype it to a moral level because they know science wont back them……an Eco Crusade…what could possibly go wrong for sceptics and anyone who dare speak anti-CAGW “heresy”…?

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    meanwhile, over on theirABC, Geraldine Doogue was at her non-partisan best!!!!!

    she had:

    Andrew Charlton discusses the difficulties in leading with conviction in Australian politics.
    (Guest: Dr Andrew Charlton, Economist, author, former adviser to Prime Minister Kevin Rudd)

    Pascal Lamy: former head of the WTO
    The former head of the World Trade Organisation and successful European bureaucrat Pascal Lamy, discusses why the populism forces which dominated the Brexit vote and Donald Trump election, have not won in Europe.

    worse, she had nearly 28 mins with an anti-Trump panel, including Francois Gemenne, Co-director of the French Defence Ministry Observatory for Climate and Security; Director of the Hugo Observatory at the University of Liège and Executive Director of the Politics of the Earth programme at Sciences Po in Paris, who Geraldine explained was in Australia for “CLIMATE DIPLOMACY WEEK”!

    19 Jun: RMIT: Thirty Million film screening and panel discussion
    As part of the EU Climate Diplomacy Week 2017, the EU Delegation to Australia in collaboration with RMIT’s EU Centre presents this special screening and panel discussion.
    Bangladesh is often described as the most vulnerable country on the planet in the face of a changing climate. It is predicted to lose 17 per cent of its land by the end of the century if global sea levels rise by one metre. That has the potential to displace 30 million Bangladeshis…ETC

    Chair: Professor Billie Giles-Corti, Director Urban Futures Enabling Capability Platform, RMIT University.
    Schedule
    6pm – Opening Address: H.E. Erica Schouten, Ambassador for the Netherlands; Lily D’Ambrosio Minister for Energy, Environment and Climate Change and Minister for Suburban Development (tbc); and H.E. Kazi Imtiaz Hossain, High Commissioner for Bangladesh…

    7pm – Panel Discussion: H.E. Kazi Imtiaz Hossain, High Commissioner for Bangladesh; ***Dr Francois Gemenne; Ret Admiral Chris Barrie; Arron Wood Deputy Lord Mayor, City of Melbourne; H.E. Erica Schouten, Ambassador for the Netherlands.
    https://www.rmit.edu.au/events/all-events/special-events/2017/june/thirty-million

    MORE TO COME.

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    Geraldine/ABC’s idea of a big debate! ignore the headline…it’s really Trump & Paris for the most part; includes Greenberg explaining how Republicans winning all the recent special elections is a win for the “Progressives”:

    AUDIO: 27mins26secs: 24 Jun: ABC Saturday Extra: Geraldine Doogue: A Foreign Affair: China’s influence; refugees; US politics and Emmanuel Macron
    This month on A Foreign Affair, reactions to allegations of Chinese influence on Australian and American politics; what to do with the increasing number of displaced people in the world; what the elections in Georgia, USA, reveal about the Democrats and Republicans and French President Emmanuel Macron speaks to the American people in english.
    Guests:
    Francois Gemenne, Co-director of the French Defence Ministry Observatory for Climate and Security; Director of the Hugo Observatory at the University of Liège and Executive Director of the Politics of the Earth programme at Sciences Po in Paris.

    Anna Greenberg, US pollster serving on the National Board of the American National Election Study (2014-2017) and is a research fellow at American University’s Center for Congressional and Presidential Studies.

    Rory Medcalf, Head of the National Security College at the Australian National University and member of the editorial boards of Asia Policy and the Australian Journal of International Affairs.
    http://www.abc.net.au/radionational/programs/saturdayextra/a-foreign-affair/8631522

    Geraldine didn’t clarify that Greenberg is a “DEMOCRAT POLLSTER”. that would be divulging too much to her audience presumably.
    nor did she divulge that Greenberg recently married WaPo anti-Trump zealot, Dana Milbank, who is also in Australia doing his anti-Trump thing at present.

    28 May: NYT: Weddings: Anna Greenberg, Dana Milbank
    Anna Gabrielle Greenberg and Dana Timothy Milbank are to be married May 28 at Eastern Market, an event space in Washington.

    more to come.

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    21 Jun: USSC: Women in politics: That’s what she said
    US presidential candidate Hillary Clinton came so close to winning the White House that she had planned to deliver her victory speech beneath a symbolic glass ceiling. When she lost the presidential election, she didn’t just fail to shatter the ultimate glass ceiling in American politics, she lost to a man who accused her of cynically exploiting her gender for political gain. Will her high-profile loss discourage women from running for office or will it motivate them to become more politically engaged?

    ***Anna Greenberg joined Geraldine Doogue, host of ABC Radio National’s Saturday Extra, to discuss a way forward for women in politics in both the United States and Australia.
    https://www.ussc.edu.au/events/women-in-politics-thats-what-she-said

    neat. Dana at taxpayer-subsidised USSC too:

    24 Jun: Australian: Gerard Henderson: Left-liberals need to explain to public why they are such losers
    On Tuesday morning The Washington Post columnist Dana Milbank was interviewed on the ABC’s News Breakfast program.
    He is in Australia as a guest of the taxpayer-subsidised US Studies Centre at the University of Sydney. As USSC executive director Simon Jackman conceded last November, not one of the self-proclaimed experts at the centre predicted that Donald Trump would defeat Hillary Clinton. In response to a question, Jackman added that not one academic at the USSC supported Trump. So as one of the leading Trump-haters in the US, Milbank should feel at home during his time at the USSC…

    On Tuesday Milbank was introduced by News Breakfast co-presenter Michael Rowland as a “celebrated columnist”. There followed a conversation primarily about the US President and the media. However, Milbank did manage to accuse Trump of “challenging all the structures of American democracy” before calling him a “charlatan”. This is hyperbole followed by abuse presented as analysis. Milbank was not asked, and did not volunteer, why his analysis last year of the Republican Party and the US electorate was so wrong.

    That was Tuesday morning, Australian time. About 12 hours later news came through of the special elections for vacant seats in the House of Representatives in Georgia and South Carolina. The Republican Party held both seats — as it had previously retained seats in Kansas and Montana…

    In the lead-up to the election last year, Milbank told his Washington Post readers “Trump’s supporters raised their arms en masse”, evoking “the sort of scene associated with grainy newsreels from Italy and Germany”. He also wondered as to where “Trump’s flirtation with fascism” would end. Earlier, Milbank compared Trump with Italian fascist dictator Benito Mussolini…
    http://www.theaustralian.com.au/news/inquirer/leftliberals-need-to-explain-to-public-why-they-are-such-losers/news-story/2e1331f47a7f1160539021b660703c3c

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    ossqss

    Perhaps he had a Freudian slip? Climate change activists want to enslave humanity in energy poverty. Just look at what they want to do. Use <1% of current global energy usage (wind and solar) for everything for everybody. Just sayin, what is he really proposing in the end to cure his percieved issue anyhow? Think about it!

    I am reminded of the Matt Ridley post on wind power from Jo.

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      Lionell Griffith

      The word “slavery” was used for its emotional power and not its rational content. This can easily be derived from the ultimate consequences of his moral war on the use of energy in all forms. The reason that human slavery is no longer economic to use is because we have our mechanical and electronic slaves doing the hard lifting for us. They do our bidding at the push of a button without having to use whips and chains against a human who might revolt and kill us.

      Remember Spartacus?

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    18 Jun: SMH: Nicole Elphick: Sydney what’s on guide
    Thursday June 22
    TALK Dana Milbank of The Washington Post is in conversation with Anne Davies for Trust, Truth and Trump, a discussion about the challenges of reporting during the current administration in a time of “alternative facts” and closed press conferences. 6pm, State Library, Macquarie Street, city, free (bookings essential), 9333 0920, walkleys.com.
    http://www.smh.com.au/entertainment/whats-on-sydney/sydney-whats-on-guide-from-pop-brothers-hanson-to-outdoor-iceskating-20170612-gwpmnu.html

    here’s Geraldine’s guest, Rory and the “post-truth world” with the truth-challenged James Clapper, no less!

    VIDEO: 6mins24secs: ANU: National Security College: National security challenges in a Post Truth World
    (‘The National Security College is a joint initiative of the Commonwealth Government and The Australian National University’)
    James Clapper and ***Rory Medcalf discuss the challenges and opportunities facing intelligence communities and the future of the Australia-US alliance.
    https://nsc.crawford.anu.edu.au/news-events/podcasts/video/10458/james-clapper-challenges-intelligence-communities-and-australia-us

    u want more?

    Gareth Evans in conversation with Pascal Lamy and James Clapper.
    The future of Australia’s American alliance: James R. Clapper in conversation with Kim Beazley
    The National Security College is a joint initiative of the Commonwealth Government and The Australian National University.
    https://nsc.crawford.anu.edu.au/

    ***here’s Geraldine again!

    Facebook: Events
    25 Jun: James Clapper: The Future of Global Security
    Public · Hosted by Sydney Opera House Talks & Ideas and Sydney Opera House
    Join one of the world’s most distinguished figures in intelligence and security, Dr James R. Clapper, for an illuminating conversation about the trends, shocks, and risks likely to shape the future of our world.
    One of Dr Clapper’s final tasks before stepping down as the Director of National Intelligence at the end of the Obama Administration was to release an extraordinary report on anticipated global trends through 2035, The Paradox of Progress. That report set out some stark messages about technology, cyber security, governance, democracy, economics, conflict, population, ideology, CLIMATE CHANGE, environment, and disease…ETC

    This event is presented in partnership with the National Security College, Australian National University.
    ***Chair: Geraldine Doogue.
    Includes a 10-15mins audience Q&A.
    https://www.facebook.com/events/116000822304963/

    how nice that taxpayer money is helping to pay for all this nonsense.
    and who would think a “conservative” government is in power?

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    michael hart

    The more ridiculous the comparisons, the more likely he is to fail. Or at least that’s how it plays in my mind. If a company tried to sell me their product on TV by comparing its importance to the abolition of slavery or the birth of the industrial revolution, I would laugh out loud.

    I think the global warmers really ought to run their marketing campaigns past some advertising executives first before they present them to the general public.

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      Dennis

      I understand that the zealots use devious methods and advice based on psychology and the gullibility of too many people.

      The same people who fall for religions based on mass hysteria and mindless singing and chanting.

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    Amber

    Well Al would know a few things about slavery . Like the party he failed to lead
    supported it . His family made money growing and selling tobacco . Now I wonder who was working those fields ?
    The sign the scary global warming boggie mann is done is going all moral .
    No science just believe what the preacher with virtually no scientific credentials is saying .
    Yeah it’s done .
    Al has a great future running some church . Nye already has comedy covered .

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    thingadonta

    He’s right about the comparison, but not in the way he thinks: slavery denies the right of the individual to be free to choose their own future, and determine their own economic well being based on discriminatory legal rights between different individuals; global warming policies also denies people the right to choose their own future, and determine their own economic well-being, also based on discriminatory legal rights between different energy sources.

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      gnome

      Well as long as we can use your definition of slavery the discussion can go on forever.

      Here’s a little thought for you – slavery has disappeared from the world. Those 30 million or 300 million (or whatever) slaves the UN claims are participants in the economic shenanigans of their society. If they weren’t willing participants they would walk away from supposed obligations and merge into their wider society.

      As long as we keep redefining slavery, slavery will always be a good rhetorical line.

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    pat

    Al does nothing but spruik for renewables.
    this is lengthy, but full of gems:

    22 Jun: LA Times: California invested heavily in solar power. Now there’s so much that other states are sometimes paid to take it
    By Ivan Penn
    (Times data editor Ben Welsh and staff writer Ryan Menezes contributed to this report)
    No single entity is in charge of energy policy in California. This has led to a two-track approach that has created an ever-increasing glut of power and is proving costly for electricity users. Rates have risen faster here than in the rest of the U.S., and Californians now pay about 50% more than the national average…

    Because no one can be sure when clouds might block sunshine during the day, fossil fuel electricity is needed to fill the gaps. Utility officials note that solar production is often cut back first because starting and stopping natural gas plants is costlier and more difficult than shutting down solar panels…

    Complicating matters is that even when CAISO requires large-scale solar plants to shut off panels, it can’t control solar rooftop installations that are churning out electricity…

    In 2015, solar and wind production were curtailed about 15% of the time on average during a 24-hour period. That rose to 21% in 2016 and 31% in the first few months of this year. The surge in solar production accounts for most of this, though heavy rainfall has increased hydroelectric power production in the state this year, adding to the surplus of renewables…

    Why does California have to pay rather than simply give the power away free?

    When there isn’t demand for all the power the state is producing, CAISO needs to quickly sell the excess to avoid overloading the electricity grid, which can cause blackouts…

    In 2015, solar and wind production were curtailed about 15% of the time on average during a 24-hour period. That rose to 21% in 2016 and 31% in the first few months of this year. The surge in solar production accounts for most of this, though heavy rainfall has increased hydroelectric power production in the state this year, adding to the surplus of renewables…

    On days that Arizona is paid to take California’s excess solar power, Arizona Public Service says it has cut its own solar generation rather than fossil fuel power. So California’s excess solar isn’t reducing greenhouse gases when that happens…
    http://www.latimes.com/projects/la-fi-electricity-solar/#nt=outfit

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    pat

    hilarious:

    23 Jun: WaPo: Jason Samenow: I worked on the EPA’s climate change website. Its removal is a declaration of war.
    To me, a scientist who managed this website for more than five years, its removal signifies a declaration of war on climate science by EPA Administrator Scott Pruitt. There can be no other interpretation. I draw this conclusion as a meteorologist with a specialization in climate science and as an independent voter who strives to keep my political and scientific views separate…
    (I left the EPA in 2010 to join The Washington Post).
    https://www.washingtonpost.com/outlook/i-worked-on-the-epas-climate-change-website-its-removal-is-a-declaration-of-war/2017/06/22/735f0858-5697-11e7-a204-ad706461fa4f_story.html?utm_term=.d38f51d54a4e

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      TdeF

      Wow! An apolitical member of the Washington post who had earned his full time living from Climate Change? His first job after graduation with an Environment a degree was with the EPA Climate Change division and four years into his ten years in Climate Change, he created the Climate Change web site. His entire professional life as a millenial. Just his first job, his career and his entire focus on Climate Change. So no bias there. Objective commentary.

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    pat

    23 Jun: Time: Norway Has Threatened to Cut Funds to Brazil Unless Deforestation Slows
    by Ryan Kilpatrick
    Brazil stands to lose out on some financial assistance from Norway if it does not reverse a rise in deforestation in the Amazon rainforest.
    Oslo has contributed $1.1 billion to Brazil’s Amazon fund since 2008, but this could come to an end if Brazil doesn’t clean up its act, the Guardian reports. Although the rate of deforestation in the South American country dropped between then and 2014, it has been raising again over the past two years.

    In a letter to his Brazilian counterpart Jose Sarney Filho, Norway’s environment minister Vidar Helgesen wrote that there had been a “worrying upward trend” of deforestation in the Brazilian Amazon since 2015. “Even a fairly modest further increase” in deforestation, he warned, would bring Norway’s contributions down “to zero.”…

    Brazilian President Michel Temer arrives Friday in Oslo, where he is expected to be met with protest by environmentalists and indigenous rights advocates, the Guardian reports.
    ***Oslo views the Amazon — the largest tropical rainforest in the world — as a region of global importance…
    http://time.com/4829820/norway-brazil-amazon-deforestation/

    yes, that would be the same Norway as this one:

    Norway opens up record 93 blocks for Arctic oil exploration
    Financial Times – ‎Jun 21, 2017‎
    Norway has infuriated environmental groups by opening up a record number of blocks in the Arctic for oil exploration. The oil ministry is offering 93 blocks in the Barents Sea, entirely in the Arctic Circle, with applications by companies expected by…

    Paris pact ‘drowns’ in Norway’s oil
    Views and News from Norway – ‎Jun 21, 2017‎

    23 Jun: ClimateChangeNews: Megan Darby: Climate Weekly: Norway sends Brazil an Amazon warning
    Was it a letter from Norway’s environment minister or supermodel Gisele Bündchen’s twitter advocacy that made up his mind?
    Either way, this week Brazil’s president Michel Temer vetoed a controversial bill that would have lowered protections on a large swathe of Amazon rainforest. The respite may be short-lived, though, with Temer’s environment minister working on a replacement bill…

    The decision to veto came just ahead of Temer’s visit to Oslo, where he is touting investment opportunities into his struggling economy…

    G’day, stalemate
    Trump may have taken the crown of international climate pariah, but Australia is still languishing near the back of the global pack.
    A review of the electricity market has proposed a clean energy target, but Graham Readfearn reports the same old political divisions are holding back progress…
    http://www.climatechangenews.com/2017/06/23/climate-weekly-norway-sends-brazil-amazon-warning/

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      gnome

      Wow- Norway, population about 43 and a quarter threatening Brazil, population about 43 billion. There’s something awry in world politics.

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        RobK

        Norway is wealthy, Brazil is almost broke. Brazil would like some of Norway’s money…simple enough?

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        Norgebo

        Close but not quite.

        The population sizes go like 1 to 40, or so. Norway has a lot of dirty oil money, so in order to get absolution, some good deeds are needed. Greenery is a religion that requires it.

        The amount of greenery thinking in Norway is so large I’m afraid an application to join the EU is near. Oh please please don’t do that mistake.

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    pat

    22 Jun: NoTricksZone: 2 New Papers Expose The Environmental Nightmare Of Wind Turbine Blade Disposal
    by Kenneth Richard
    Unsustainable: 43 Million Tonnes Of Wind Turbine Blade Waste By 2050
    “If the industry cannot come up with more sustainable manufacturing and disposal processes, public acceptance of wind energy would decline if the public becomes aware of these issues” – Ramirez-Tejeda et al., 2017.

    Despite an explosion in installed wind capacity since 1990, wind power had achieved just 0.39% of the world’s total energy consumption as of 2013…READ ON
    http://notrickszone.com/2017/06/22/2-new-papers-expose-the-environmental-nightmare-of-wind-turbine-blade-disposal/#sthash.teUzszZO.dpbs

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    the last roll of the CAGW dice, with plenty of foreign “advisers”, and not very promising:

    23 Jun: NYT: Chris Buckley: Xi Jinping Is Set for a Big Gamble With China’s Carbon Trading Market
    “Carbon trading on a national scale will send a signal to the world that China is serious about this,” said Wang Yi, a professor at the Chinese Academy of Sciences in Beijing who also belongs to the national legislature and advises the government on climate policy…

    “It’s a really complicated task,” he said. “That’s precisely why China must work on this in a steady way and mustn’t fail. If China’s carbon market fails, that will be a big blow not just to China but also to global carbon markets.”…

    Governments can over time lower the allowed emissions, making permits scarcer and magnifying price pressures on companies to cut pollution…

    “Every ton of emissions that’s going up the stack becomes potentially money lost,” said Dan J. Dudek, vice president for Asia of the Environmental Defense Fund, who has advised the Chinese government on its market. “It changes people’s minds about what was once fundamentally free.”…

    “One of the problems they have had is getting realistic numbers,” said Deborah M. Lehr, a senior fellow at the Paulson Institute who has advised Chinese officials on climate-friendly financial policies. “To move to emissions trading, you need to have realistic numbers on how to start to price these emissions.”…

    For now, Chinese officials are planning a relatively modest start and have retreated from their initially high ambitions…
    “It’s a good idea to start with a narrow range of sectors, even if that wasn’t the original plan,” said Stian Reklev, a Beijing-based co-founder of Carbon Pulse, which provides information on greenhouse gas markets and climate change policy…

    “You start to create vested interests in local government, in industry associations and in other parts of the private sector for more accurate data,” said Huw Slater, research and projects manager for China Carbon Forum, a group in Beijing that monitors emissions trading. “In China, you can’t really wait until you’ve got perfect data, because it will never happen.”…
    https://www.nytimes.com/2017/06/23/world/asia/china-cap-trade-carbon-greenhouse.html

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    Dave

    Is Craig Thomas

    AL GORE?

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    Ross

    I see your President plans to build a SOLAR WALL across Americas southern border.
    Good thing? Bad thing? Socialism gone mad? Jo?

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    TdeF

    I was disappointed to read Alan Kohler’s diatribe against the ‘dills’ in the Liberal party who do not accept the science.

    “So, no need to subsidise renewables. The only use for a scheme that does so is to humiliate ­Malcolm Turnbull, because he can’t get it past the dills in his party.”

    Besides, according to Alan, Chief Scientist Finkel and AGL say the Science is in, oil and coal are out and ‘renewables’ are displacing them, which is why the Saudis are lowering the price?

    He reasons that the oil prices is plummeting because of fracking and shale but it is really the incredible success of cheap battery storage and cheap renewables which has killed off fossil fuel.

    I used to read his advice with interest. Now with total world wind and solar at less than 1%, he is declaring the end of oil? All you have to do is buy a battery car it seems. Those battery aircraft work a treat too.

    This man is another economics and climate expert, like Ian Dennis and Ross Garnaut. Part of the army of Economics experts who did not see the GFC coming and still think they can see the future.

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      Neville

      Kohler seems to lack logic, reason and common sense. He also doesn’t seem to be able to add up very simple sums.

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      Ross

      Dills. Yeah…that’ll do it.

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      clive

      There is a report that came out last week which said that the production of the batteries for”Electric Cars”was the equivalent of a”Gas Guzzler”running for nearly 9 years.And that is just the”Production”of the battery.And that doesn’t include the”Production”of the rest of the car,or the charging of said”Battery”(with coal of course)

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    David Maddison

    Here is a 2009 video of an interview with John Coleman, founder of the Weather Channel where he explains that there are 30,000 scientists wanting to sue Al Gore.

    https://youtu.be/z6l1Cp3MYCQ

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    David Maddison

    Gore’s lies exposed in Congress in 2009.

    https://youtu.be/vFK-UTGH1Zw

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      David Maddison

      Why can’t we have intelligent and well-informed politicians like the ones interrogating Gore?

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    David Maddison

    Gavin Schmidt runs in fear from Roy Spencer, LOL. (2013)

    https://youtu.be/eYKggC5VOzA

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      TdeF

      “Congress does not give money out for things that are non problems”. Well said by Roy Spencer. He also implies most scientists will not speak out publicly because their jobs are at risk. Also that if you support global warming and find consequential problems, you will be rewarded financially. Simple logic.

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        TdeF

        Also you have to be amazed at Schmidt’s naive socialist response to the claim that increased energy costs will hit the poor hardest. “They will be rebated“.

        So they are going to be given money so they can pay more? If that is the case, why tolerate poor people in the first place? Just make them all rich by taking all the money off the rich and giving it to the poor. You have to wonder why an unthinking casual socialist like Schmidt even tolerates the existence of poor people.

        This is parodied brilliantly by Monty Python in the Lupin Express The final solution to equity is given after 9:00.

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      TdeF

      There is also the argument, CO2 has gone up and CH4(Methane) has doubled, so mankind must be responsible. Stands to reason.

      What about the argument that the temperature has gone so CO2 and CH4 have been released from the ocean? Is that such a complicated idea, espcially considering that 98% of all CO2 is dissolved under pressure in the ocean. Plus huge areas of rotting plant matter, say in the delta of the Amazon river. The argument is that global warming will heat the oceans and relese this as CH4. What about the simple reverse? This has clearly not occurred to a brilliant scientist like Gavin Schmidt. Must have missed it.

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        TdeF

        Sorry, left out the word UP

        There is also the argument, CO2 has gone up and CH4(Methane) has doubled, so mankind must be responsible. Stands to reason.

        What about the argument that the temperature has gone UP so extra CO2 and CH4 have been released from the ocean? Is that such a complicated idea, espcially considering that 98% of all CO2 is dissolved under pressure in the ocean. Plus huge areas of rotting plant matter, say in the delta of the Amazon river. The argument is that global warming will heat the oceans and relese this as CH4. What about the simple reverse? This has clearly not occurred to a brilliant scientist like Gavin Schmidt. Must have missed it.

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          TdeF

          I also take issues with Gavin Schmidt’s patronizing argument that “It’s not the sun, we studied that”. Really, then why does the well known De Vries 210 year cycle plus the 10 year PDO (Pacific Decadal Osciallation) accurately describe the last 2500 years of data when CO2 does not?

          It is easy to confuse him with the other Schmidts, but this passionate supporter of Global Warming “earned a BA (Hons) in mathematics at Jesus College, Oxford, and a PhD in applied mathematics at University College London.” So a pure mathematician who found a job in Climate and will not debate a professional meteorologist. You can understand why.

          Also the CO2 logic predicts warming of the air, not the ocean. This also indicates that it is the unpredicted and unexpected ocean warming which is causing the CO2 and CH4 increase. I marvel at how Climate alarmists are now claiming that they did and that the whole system should considered, even if incidentally it destroys their basic logic. Tim Flannery was perhaps the first to claim that the ocean stole his warming.

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            TdeF

            The reason I have commented so much is that I always wanted to hear a debate between two scientists on man made Global Warming and in thirty years, this is the closest it has come. Otherwise Lord Monckton vs economist Ian Dennis in Canberra. Sir James Nurse, geneticist and journalist James Delingpole and the appalling and nutty Precautionary Principle, which would get you expelled from the medical profession.

            It was an interesting feat just to get Roy Spencer, Gavin Schmidt and then Roy Spencer. As close as anyone has come to a debate and really all we heard from Roy was that Gavin had ‘said a lot’. Oh for a real debate! We are left with US Congressmen and Senators grilling people intelligently after doing their homework, but without authority. So in thirty years, the left of politics has managed to silence people, as they still do, shouting them down. The others are too scared to speak. Some of course just have no interest in the subject, being scientists and living in their own worlds.

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    David Maddison

    Real scientist William Happer educates the warmists.

    https://youtu.be/2Lye5liWuZw

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      TdeF

      Again, you get these older really qualified scientists who do not fear being fired. Where are the young scientists? Of course they dare not say anything but 32,000 signed the Oregon petition with their name, address and qualifications. Perhaps they should be named and shamed. You would find Edward Teller, the leader of the Mahhattan project in the signatures of allegedly unqualified people.

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        Howie from Indiana

        Although Teller was involved in the Manhattan project I haven’t benn able to find a reference confirming that he was the leader. Robert Oppenheimer was head of the civilian arm of the project and Gen. Leslie Groves was head of the military arm.

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          Curious George

          True. The Manhattan Project developed a nuclear bomb. Dr. Teller led a development of H-bomb later.

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    John of Cloverdale, WA, Australia

    From the Washington Times

    As a Harvard sophomore, scholar Al “earned” a D in Natural Sciences 6 in a course presciently named “Man’s Place in Nature.” That was the year he evidently spent more time smoking cannabis than studying its place among other plants within the ecosystem. His senior year, Mr. Gore received a C+ in Natural Sciences 118.

    At Vanderbilt divinity school, Mr. Gore took a course in theology and natural science. The assigned readings included the apocalyptic, and widely discredited “Limits to Growth,” which formed much of the foundation for “Earth in the Balance.” It is said that Mr. Gore failed to hand in his book report on time. Thus, his incomplete grade turned into an F, one of five Fs Mr. Gore received at divinity school, which may well be a worldwide record.

    Enough said!

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    J.H.

    Gore’s Climate Change Movement sounds a bit like Mao Zedong’s “Great Leap Forward” movement, which resulted in tens of millions of deaths and mass human suffering of a scale that is almost impossible to comprehend.

    Gore wants to emulate that same kind of repressive, counterproductive, Socialist ideology with his own grand vision for human society.

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    Senex

    Gore is right, but not in the way he believes. The massive state interventions in our lives and restrictions on our freedoms being proposed to “save the planet” from climate change are like slavery.

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    mc

    The struggle to be free from the tedious hectoring and brow beating meted out by the Gorical, that’s the proper comparison with the fight against slavery. Al Gores’ groan inducing oppressive sophistry is real, whereas CAGW, all theory and paranoia.

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    Only with a great moral cause can you collectivise on the grand scale. Enter Gore. Enter Green Blob.

    Collectivism appeals to the conceit of intellectuals and the smugness of elites, both groups loving the notion of top-down control while feeling contempt for the common run of humanity who just get on with their lives.

    Enemy number one are those aspirationals who still expect to toss cricket balls to 2+ kids in backyards on land they own. The aspirationals don’t know that their job is to stay small and generate revenues while a sub-class does the breeding and an upper crust of technocrats, bureaucrats and lobbyists make decisions in the best interests of a kleptocracy.

    The top-down control for our era is called by such names as “sustainable development”, “globalism” and “open borders”. With its promises of “smart cities”, “agile communities”, “green jobs” etc it looks good to some now, just as communism, il Fascismo and National Socialism looked good in the 1930s. Radically imposed solutions which ignore untidy humanity always look good for a bit, some even work for a while if they can persuade humans to forget their untidy humanity.

    The future globalists have in mind for us will be a colossal bungle, just as communism was. You can see it already in the massive white elephants of Big Green, born disasters which haven’t even had their five minutes of efficiency.

    The promise, as in the thirties, is the shining citadel. The reality is…the Port Kembla Wave Generator.

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    Reasonable Skeptic

    I quit agree with Gore. We have people who want to force people to work for their other people benefit. To me it more resembles old time religion though.

    “Work hard to save yourself, give your earnings to us and we will ensure you are saved from [climate] damnation! If you do not believe, you are a [climate] heretic!!”

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    observa

    And world peace too Big Al?

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    2dogs

    Actually, he’s right. The battle for climate change is quite like slavery. Despite all these international agreements, in place for over a century, there is still slavery in the world today. The international agreements are useless, and have never solved anything.

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    Scott

    Well he is right, just reversed as most dems usually do, accuse the other of what you are guilty of.

    Restrict energy to the average person and force people to pay large amounts to global elites in the name of global warming, this is slavery.

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    Whalehunt Fun

    Is this lying fool still not in jail? Why has Trump not had him arrested convicted jailed or worse?

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    Radical Rodent

    …the defeat of apartheid…

    Except, of course, the blacks – oops, sorry: “persons of colour” – in America are now demanding separate accommodation and separate education. What next? Blacks only at the back of the bus? Perhaps apartheid is acceptable if it is implemented by non-whites.

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    Turtle

    The jobs slaves used to do are now done by machines that run on fossil fuels. Machine technology and fossil fuels make wealth possible without slavery.

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    Gerard Barry

    Al Gore is the slave master of dodgy climate change alarmism.

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    Egor the One

    Al Gore = Mr BS .

    If there was any real justice, this clown would be in leg irons !

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    george

    Al Bore is right. It is all about someone making a great deal of money at someone else’s expense. Slavery or climate change = money.

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