We are just 40 odd comments today from the 100,000th lucky commenter!!! Wait for it, we’ll be sending you on a world tour, a dinner for two, I might just post the Grand Winner both Skeptics Handbook I and II 🙂
Kerry Lutz
And for those who would like some weekend listening I did an interview with Kerry Lutz at the Financial Survival Network. (It’s 15 or 20 minutes). The overlap between skeptics of government science and skeptics of government money grows more obvious. We ranged through climategate to ad hominen arguements, the art of rhetoric, the regulating class, blaming “free markets” for the failures of unfree ones and spanish solar panels among other things. It was 11pm for me, somehow I could (mostly) string the words together.
PS: The comments counter is on the right hand column under “statistics”. (99,982…)
UPDATE: A Winner!
OK. Doing the numbers behind the scenes, it appears (!!!) Bob Malloy hit the big 100k, with Redc being mere seconds behind. So I’ll send books to both of you. Unless I’m wrong, I think Bob pipped redc for the title. 
(Gee Aye deserves an honorable mention for comment 99,999 and 100,002).
Note that as I write this, the stats are
115,590 Comments
100,023 Approved
0 Pending
15,567 Spam
That spam number are just the ones in the spam queue right now (approx 14 days worth).
But (Egad) we missed the really Big clock-over where the total spam hit *1 million*.
“Akismet has protected your site from 1,103,728 spam comments already.”
So there’s the real victor of blog comments – the bots. 90% of comments are spam. Thank goodness for the Askimet filter. You can see why, when your comments disappear into the filter, they will never be seen again unless you ask our starring wonderful dedicated and wise moderators to fish them out (support AT joannenova.com.au). I stopped checking the spam filter in August 2009.
Thank you to commenters and moderators!
The site would not be the same without you
+1 Post count.
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Oddly, I’m looking forward to the ‘I can change your mind’ doco and Q and A on the ABC, mainly to see how stacked the audience is.
I know things like this infuriate me, but it gives insight into thinking.
Almost 15,000 votes counted now, and it’s 52% Dismissive. I wonder how much of a mention this poll will actually get.
I submitted a question for the panel, but you tell me what chance it will have of making it to the panel.
Tony.
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They will keep on running the poll until they get the results they want – you have been warned.
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Rereke’s right: they will keep polling until they get the right answer. A week or so ago, 67% of respondents were “dismissive”; now it’s 52%. Regular ABC types now dominate the numbers after the initial flurry of interest from non-aligned blogs.
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That 52% is holding.
In the 42 hours since the original comment I made above, there has been close on 2,000 votes, and it’s still holding at that 52%.
The second highest percentage is ‘Alarmed’, holding at 26%, half of Dismissive.
I wonder how the ABC will address this, and they’ll have to mention it in the Q and A mainly, because I would suspect that the Doco has already been finished.
As Rereke mentions, they’ll keep the poll running until they get the required result, but if so, consider this.
It’s an easy thing to check really, because we have the number of total votes now, and that stands at just on 17,000.
So for the ‘Alarmed’ to take over as the prominent total, there would need to be a further 5,000 votes, and (virtually) all of them would have to be in that ‘Alarmed’ category.
So then, some of you may ask, why would I bother harping on this?
Consider this.
The fair way to do it would be for the ABC to close the Poll at the start time of the doco.
However, to possibly achieve the correct result, I’m willing to bet that the ABC will mention (probably at the start and finish) during the doco that there is a Poll running. The doco will (probably obviously) be slanted towards the pro side (Alarmed) and now that those people aligned in that direction will be (suddenly) aware that there is a Poll, they will do the required thing and go and vote, so, lo and behold, when the Q and A session starts, the desired result will be in place for the ABC to gloat that they are on the winning team in supporting the ‘Alarmed’ case.
However, by having these early results documented here, we can in fact point to these and make a case that the results have in fact been manipulated.
I know some may think of this as conspiracy theory, but hey, after the (end) results are in, it would be too easy to say that they were once well in favour of the other side.
I understand that watching things like this doco are in effect giving credence to the other side, but in reality, we need to be watching things like this.
Almost related I see Professor Flannery and John Doyle’s new doco aired its first episode last night. Didn’t take long for Professor Tim to mention Climate Change, and it’s noticeable that in this, their third doco series now, the pair of them have become even more strident and condescending. It’s become less of a doco and more of a platform for their opinions structured around good backdrops.
Tony.
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If I was an ABC producer wishing to influence people, here is what I’d want Tony.
I’d want the ‘dismissive’ and ‘unconcerned’ to far outweigh the alarmist options.
At the end of the programme (the purpose of which is to CHANGE PEOPLES MINDS) I’d run a new poll (participants will hopefully be pinko leftard commo ABC watchers, GetUp members, Pravda on the Yarra readers etc) the poll should show a much higher percentage ‘alarmed’ and bingo, we’ve changed peoples minds.
So for those of you who hurriedly took the poll and ended up being ‘dismissive’ etc, you’ve fallen for the ABC Commie propaganda trap. I suggest you go back and ‘alarm’ yourselves now, then be ‘dismissive’ after the show.
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I think Baa Baa you are right I read somewhere else today that they are going to run another poll after the show in which the alarmists will pile in and hey presto we have convinced a whole heap of deniers of global warming.
The interesting thing will be to see if they change the questions and if they don’t if the same answers you gave to the first poll result in a different classification to the first poll.
I mean how desperate can the warmists be maybe it’s time us skeptics boycotted these show trials altogether.Just turn up when the alarmists are prepared to debate 1 on 1
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I wonder why you even bother to watch such propagandised nonsense.
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I couldn’t possibly accept such a prize as it would be funded by secret Big Oil donations.
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I’d comment if I had something to comment about. However, as I haven’t, I won’t.
🙂
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I would if I could, but I can;t so i shan’t.
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write 100 times, proof read, proof read etc etc.
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I once won ‘A meal for two anywhere in Newcastle’ (upon Tyne) – turned out to be two pre-packed cheese and chutney sandwiches – so I’m not hopeful this time either!
Hey ho!
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‘Chutney cheese, grows nary and tyne…’
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I just listened to your radio interview Jo and learned several things. But I loved the story of the subsidy for solar power which was generated at night! You can certainly count on some people to find a way to defraud any system involving money anywhere!
The bit about Climategate was interesting and you’re right that a lot of the revelations were already known. I’m just finishing the book “Red Hot Lies” by Christopher C. Horner published in 2008 and I have to keep telling myself that all this was before Climategate!
As far as the education system goes, kids aren’t stupid and I’m sure many of them know they’ve been conned and will consign Al Gore’s propaganda to the same place as Father Christmas and the Easter Bunny, but without the same affection. Hopefully when they become teachers they will be successful in restoring balance about the climate debate into the curriculum, or better still assigning it to the same status as religious instruction was when I was at school.
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In most countries based on the Westminster style of Parliament, it is the central government that sets the national school syllabus – so it is the bureaucrat theoreticians who are culpable for the climate rubbish.
In the US, it is the School Districts board members who set the syllabus for the geographic area – which is why Intelligent Design is so popular.
Both subjects are have the same degree of scientific rigour.
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It’s only small comment for me; one giant leap for Jonova…
😉
Ecotretas
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Can you give me a hand?? This guy is calling me a shit eating denialist. There are a some real swine here:
http://www.amazon.com/forum/science/ref=cm_cd_et_jump?_encoding=UTF8&cdForum=FxZ58KVEERYS5E&cdPage=116&cdThread=Tx30I2EV9ZB85QC#CustomerDiscussionsLPIT
JB Frodsham:”I’ve got great news for you, all you have to do to avert a global catastrophe is to find peer reviewed papers that support the models” Jo N.
ElliottCB:How convenient for you that there is an alternative reality to escape into in which “models” are the basis for anything. The current rate of observed warming alone already guarantees 2°C in a century, you coprophagous denialist. And the observed rate of warming is concrete evidence. If you don’t like the science then falsify it. Hiding behind “models” won’t change anything.
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Jonathan,
I spent an hour and composed a lengthy rebuttal to your opponent only to find I needed an account. I tried to open one and returned to the blog only to find my composition had disappeared. Sorry but I tried to help.
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Jonathan
Liked this comment you made on the other site:
“It’s just not possible to simulate the real atmosphere without making assumptions, estimates or decisions on which parts to simplify or omit. Since all those things rely on the opinions of the modelers, no matter how well intentioned or educated you guys think you are, a model is a glorified opinion”.
You obviously understand how models are put together and used.
Too bad the warmers only use them for cover to hide behind.
🙂
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Johnathon,
Try this: … “there is overwhelming evidence right, but you can’t name even one paper? Surely an erudite, well mannered man such as yourself has looked at the evidence.”
Later when you really want to tip him over the edge, allude to the tendency of some people to grovel to their masters. [You couldn’t be one of those gullible fools who just obeys authority…] The term “useful idiot” springs to mind.
(Remember guys like Elliot think they are “independent” thinkers.)
(wash rinse repeat)
PS: Don’t forget the link http://joannenova.com.au/2012/2010/01/is-there-any-evidence/ that explains why most of their “evidence” is not evidence, and why the rest is irrelevant or only implies 1.2C or less.
PPS: Be polite – ask him what point is your obvious lie – you want to correct it immediately of course… (remember, their arguments are all bluff).
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will listen to your interview tomorrow, jo.
VERY long list of corruption in this piece, well worth reading all, cos it’s happening or is going to happen everywhere. KPMG quotes are priceless:
20 April: Vancouver Sun: GORDON HOEKSTRA: Carbon Trading: Projects outside trust’s criteria but reaping benefits criticized
When the provincial government set the rules for the new carbon-trading economy, they were clear.
Public institutions would be compelled to contribute money to a fund to compensate for producing greenhouse gas emissions.
The money would be administered by the Pacific Carbon Trust, a Crown corporation, and used to assist private companies in B.C. with innovative projects to reduce their greenhouse gas emissions…
A Vancouver Sun investigation has found that 22 of 25 projects were already underway when they were given millions of dollars in incentives by the trust to reduce their emissions.
The trust argues the rules allowed money to be awarded retroactively to companies for projects that started after Nov. 29, 2007. That was the cutoff date set by provincial legislation, which allowed for retroactive compensation if companies could successfully argue a project wouldn’t have proceeded without trust funding.
The Sun also found that some of the projects awarded money from the trust had already reaped benefits from tax reductions, fuel savings and other government subsidies — in one case a $100-million grant from Ottawa…
Simon Fraser University economist Mark Jaccard says many of the trust’s retroactive payments are bogus and were not the key to making the projects viable.
He estimates that as few as 25 per cent of the projects were legitimate…
Independent North Cariboo MLA Bob Simpson says he believes the Pacific Carbon Trust was scrambling to find new projects to give money to as capital dried up during the global financial crisis, so instead approved projects that had already happened.
“It’s a shell game,” said Simpson, who has been a harsh critic of the scheme…
The accounting firm KPMG, which has an arm that qualifies greenhouse gas reduction projects, has validated and verified several projects awarded money by the Carbon Trust.
However, KPMG said it is restricted in providing that evidence because of confidentiality agreements with its company clients.
Suffice to say, I think those documents all exist,” said Chris Ridley-Thomas, president of KPMG Performance Registrar Inc…
http://www.vancouversun.com/technology/Carbon+Trading+Projects+outside+trust+criteria+reaping+benefits+criticized/6495348/story.html
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not trying to win any prize, but how’s this for academia CAGW-style!
21 April: Centre Daily: PSU to host climate change presentation
A group of Penn State faculty and one graduate student will give a presentation on climate change at 7 p.m. on April 30.
Their presentation, “Changing the Moral Climate on Climate Change,” will focus on climate change denial. Speakers include professor Michael Mann, director of Penn State’s Earth System Science Center, Nobel-Prize co-winner for his work on the 2007 Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change, and author of “The Hockey Stick and the Climate Wars;” science, technology, and society professor Donald Brown, a former Clinton administration U.N. representative; psychology professor Janet Swim, who served as chairwoman of the 2009 American Psychological Association’s task force on the psychology of climate change; engineering professor Rick Schuhmann, an environmental engineer and director of Penn State’s Engineering Leadership program; and Peter Buckland, a graduate student studying educational theory and policy.
The presentation will take place in room 101 of Penn State’s Thomas Building. A question and answer session will take place after the presentation…
http://www.centredaily.com/2012/04/21/3170348/psu-to-host-climate-change-presentation.html
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a final laugh. wish there were at least some pollies speaking up here…besides Barnaby:
21 April: Radio Iowa: O. Kay Henderson: State senators disagree over “climate change” (audio)
On the eve of “Earth Day” this Sunday a handful of state senators got into a partisan squabble over “climate change.”
It was Senator Rob Hogg, a Democrat from Cedar Rapids, who got things started by reading a statement from a group of Iowa religious leaders, including his own Catholic bishop.
“This was the statement: ‘Climate change is one of the most pressing challenges facing our world today and as religious leaders representing diverse faith traditions we are called to reaffirm our committment to be responsible stewards of Earth’s resources and to act in love to our neighbors both locally and globally,’” Hogg said. “‘Scientists, including those representing 28 Iowa colleges and universities who recently released a statement, have warned us that changes in global climate patterns are brining more extreme weather events to Iowa, the United States and our world.’”
That prompted Republican Senator David Johnson of Ocheyedan to ridicule the idea that humans are the main cause of climate change…
“With all due respect to our religious leaders…how much are you willing to spend to reverse what you call global warming?” Johnson asked. “…The country of Spain made a huge transition to their economy for green energy. What was the result of that? Bankruptcy?”…
Johnson responded with a little yelling of his own.
“I’m on the side of the scientists I served with in Antartica and Greenland and I’m the only member of this body that has done that,” Johnson said. “And there is no agreement in the scientific community, no consensus that things have really changed because change happens.”
Not every senator exhibited a hot temper. There were some light-hearted moments in this episode.
Senator Joni Ernst of Red Oak openly admitted to being a Republican who drives a fuel-efficient Prius.
“I did it just because I’m fiscally conservative and driving a Buick Enclave all around my rather large (senate) district was just not affordable,” Ernst said.
That prompted Senator Tom Courtney, a Democrat from Burlington, to admit he drives a gas-guzzling Corvette convertible….ETC ETC
http://www.radioiowa.com/2012/04/21/state-senators-disagree-over-climate-change-audio/
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Joanne:
ElliottCB says:
JB Frodsham- “I’ve been asking for two years, three months and four days, and no one can find one that suggests CO2 will cause much more than 1 degree of warming at most.”
The answers are the same as they have been every time you turned up in the last two years, three months and four days pretending not to have heard them the last time:
1. In the IPCC reports. The IPCC Physical Basis section is basically a 1,000-page list of the peer-reviewed papers supporting the IPCC’s projections. As you do not specify any more coherently which aspect of the mass of science requires support, this is a precise and comprehensive answer.
2. The question is in any case incoherent, as the science of global warming does not rest on models. We would be absolutely sure that AW is happening without ever turning a model on. Even the existing, observed rate of warming approximates 2°C per century.
3. The question is ignorant, as the models [edited] themselves ARE peer-reviewed science, and are composed out of peer-reviewed science. The Met Office model is actually the exact same model used for weather forecasting and accommodates the latest science from the whole field for generating economically important forecasts. It is just run at a different resolution. Entire industries such as agriculture and shipping are relying perfectly happily on these exact same models and have been for decades.
4. Where and when have any of you coprolites ever come up with so much as a SINGLE paper falsifying the science of anthropogenic warming? Without falsification anything you say.
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Coprolites! That’s an unnecessarily nasty comment frogshit.
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Humble apologies jonathan frodsham. I have finally caught up. It is ElliottCB referring to skeptics as fossilised faeces and you as coprophagic. Isn’t latin lovely.
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Johnathon, all the answers are here — http://joannenova.com.au/2012/2010/01/is-there-any-evidence/
1. IPCC? The IPCC is not a scientific instrument. It’s a committee. We’re looking for a paper with data from an instrument.
2. 2°C per century eh? i) got any evidence of that? Phil Jones says the peak decades of the last 150 years were only 0.16/decade. (All the others were lower) ii) Have you heard the phrase “correlation is not causation”? (ie So?)
3. Models might be peer reviewed, but they measure a simulated world. We want measurements from the real one. You know… not one based on assumptions, estimates, guestimates and approximations of the atmosphere.
4. Skeptics can name 900 papers that support our view. Of course, just because we outnumber you doesn’t make us right. It’s the evidence in those papers that wipes out your case. See Lindzen 2011, McKitrick 2011, Christie 2010, Douglass & knox 2009, Anagnostopoulis 2010, Spencer 2011, Spencer 2007,McShane 2010 …. how many do you want?
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Had it kept on warming past 1998 it would have been unusual and there may have been something in it.
No temperature set shows continued warming past 98, not UAH, not GISS, no one. There is a slight variance between for instance UAH and GISS with the latter showing higher peaks then the others for some of the years since 98 but none show any warming since. Leveling off and cooling would appear the better word for what is shown for the last 2 years.
All this is in line with the 30 year cycles of the sun. A period of warming, leveling off and then cooling.
Not that AGW believers are keen to believe in sun cycles or anything else natural.
They will start to throw other increases in something as evidence, most of them random ones and poorly understood needing much more research to verify natural variability or otherwise.
Yes, the sea level is going up, has done so for a long time, but the rate of increase is slowing down.
The oceans have gone up in temperature, slightly, the Pacific is now cooling and it won’t be long and the Atlantic will follow.
It is rather comic that self styled “environmentalists” can not come to believe that nature is in control.
No doubt we have an influence on our environment and air quality but Global Warming is not one of them at this stage.
Personally I quite enjoy the extra plant food in the air, more meat on the table is the result.
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2 degrees per century?
Why don’t you look at some data moron. Here is a site you can download global temperature anomaly from. Since it’s the BOM you can be assured that it’s accurate and has not been adjusted in any way…
http://www.bom.gov.au/cgi-bin/climate/change/global/timeseries.cgi
Now, download the time series and run an average gradient through the last century, or through any other 10 year period and show me how you come up with 2 degrees.
Also please note that in the last 10 – 15 years we have seen NO GLOBAL WARMING!
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Please note Jonothan Frodsham that unless you can explain and justify this assertion of 2 degrees per century based on the BOM data or other reputable data set for global temperature anomaly then I will dismiss this and all your other points as baseless propoganda as well.
2 Degrees of warming Jonathan? PROVE IT
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Be aware Johnathon is on the skeptical side, he’s quoting a troll he’s debating on Amazon.
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I am hoping that when you hit the 200,000 that the responders can do better than moron and “frog shit”. And by this comment I don’t mean they are more crude.
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Yes we should all try to use politically correct and polite language for GeeAye just like the language commonly used by climate scientists and journalists.
Such as “deniers” “denialist machine” etc.
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A course of logic 101 for you!
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I must need that course badly because I can’t seem to find the causal nexus between my comment and yours.
Say whaa?
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Oh Woops.
Well Jon, feel free to refer them to the BOM to deal with the 2 degree claim.
Sorry.
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The term ‘coprolites’ obviously should refer to your comments and not to those who challenge the deceit, fallacies and data manipulation of the climate change industry.
Just in case there is anyone does not know the definition of the word coprolite, it is fossilised dinosaur poo.
Also, just in case anyone does not know the identity of the world’s most sceptical group of individuals – they are the geologists (government employed ones excepted for obvious reasons). Geologists recognise the ‘science’ as preached by the CAGW cult, as being complete poo – as almost 100% of recent climate change can be explained by natural climate cycles, which have been experienced on our planet for well over one billion years.
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My comment is that this is a fantastic blog run by a fantastic person and therefore I deserve the prize 🙂
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Nice try.
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I agree 🙂
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a FINAL final link, a shameful piece in The Australian:
20 April: Australian: SPECIAL REPORT: DEB RICHARDS: Carbon: making the big switch
Nick Wood, associate director of climate change and sustainability at KPMG, has been readying CEOs and CFOs all over Australia and advising them to see it as an opportunity…
Caroline Bayliss, of the not-for-profit Climate Group, says the solution lies in helping business see the need to innovate and adopt best-practice methods. “It’s not just about compliance. It’s about transforming the market, so that business brings carbon emissions down and pushes profits up.”
The Climate Group is a global organisation initiated by Tony Blair while he was the British prime minister. Here in Australia, Bayliss works to bring governments and corporations together to identify ways of doing good business with lower carbon demands. Companies such as IBM, Origin Energy and General Electric are exploring ways to co-ordinate with government to build “climate- smart precincts” in which integrated services and information and communications technologies reduce energy costs and emissions…
http://www.theaustralian.com.au/news/features/carbon-making-the-big-switch/story-e6frgabx-1226332956826
The Climate Group: Caroline Bayliss
Caroline Bayliss has taken over at the helm of The Climate Group in Australia.
Rupert Posner, who founded The Climate Group’s Australian office in 2005, is moving to New York to take up a new position as the organisation’s Global Director of Energy…
Caroline was also previously Deputy Director of the United Nations Global Compact Cities Programme. The initiative is dedicated to assisting cities to address seemingly intractable urban challenges through collaborative governance that engages all levels of government, business and civil society. She will maintain an ongoing role on the Advisory Council of the Global Compact Cities Programme.
http://www.theclimategroup.org/about-us/our-people/caroline-bayliss/
Tony Blair??? give me a break.
18 April: PerthNow: Staff Writers: CO2 Group gets licence to carbon trade
CO2 Group has become the country’s first carbon project developer to get a financial services licence that will allow the company to trade ‘carbon credit units’.
The Perth-based company today said it had become an authorised representative of Valuestream Investment Management Ltd (AFSL), which meant it can now deal in derivatives across Australia’s carbon trading markets…
Shares in CO2 closed down 0.5c to 16.5c today.
http://www.perthnow.com.au/business/local-business/co2-group-gets-licence-to-carbon-trade/story-e6frg2s3-1226331817714
Valuestream is connected to UBS Global Access Fund.
with the failure in the US this week to regulate the derivatives market, it’s all systems go for the biggest, baddest financial bubble of all time – the carbon dioxide bubble.
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Hi Jo, and congratulations on the comments milestone. I think it’s the posters and primarily yourself that deserve the prizes and kudos. If it wasn’t for you, us commenters wouldn’t be here.
Cheers.
NicG.
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I’m always up for a freebie or a something I don’t have to pay for! ;D
A lot of posters have come and gone from this blog. It’s a fun place.
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Maybe Speedy can do his thing for the 100,000th comment?
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Congrats on the 100k comments Jo. I appreciate all the effort you put into keeping truth at the top of the page
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Hi Jo, and congratulations on the comments milestone.To celebrate I just bought $30 of your chocolates. Yum very nice.
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And that’s a big thank you too 🙂 Jo
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That’s a wonderful interview Jo. Wide ranging and relaxed, well delivered responses. Why don’t we see/hear more of these ?
Meanwhile, back in the MSM, it is being reported that HRH Prince Charles and his father Phillip have both had some rather frank things to say about windmills.
To Charles is attributed:-
This is the President of the WWF.
And to his slightly less circumspect father, known for being more outspoken than your average Yorkshireman:-
Well there we have it.
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& some fool said that royalty was bad!
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Congratulations, going from strength to strength, Jo. Always very interesting dropping in here to see what’s going on. I hope your 100,000th comment is more interesting than this!
Glenn GP
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well this is just a comment for glory. good luck!
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99999, come in winner!!!!!
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The 100,000th comment 🙂 Thanks Bob. — Jo
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Hmmmm…
Statistics
10 contributors have published
781 posts that generated
99999 comments
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oh well
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From Then Play On.
Tony.
(Boy, is that cryptic or what)
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Fleetwood Mac. I always remember “oh well” more memorably fromt John Lennon’s Well Well Well
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Gee!
I am surprised you (well anyone) picked that up. I loved Peter Green’s Fleetwood Mac in those early days. I do a regular feature at my home site titled Sunday Music, and in fact one of the first songs I featured was in fact the greatest instrumental of the modern music era. Enjoy!
Albatross
Tony.
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Not actually my cup of tea – my tastes went in a different direction.
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…..and if one green bottle would accidentally fall…
..there would be 9 Hundred and 99 thousand green loonies sitting on the wall…
Still a way to go yet Jo!!
But keep up the great work ….. at least Bobs gone!
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I have, where have I gone???
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sorry, forgot the sarc…
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where have I gone???
Gone hiking up those misty mountains that make men want to do silly things….
RIP Bob. 🙂
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Well it looks like I missed the mark (this is 100,008). However Jo did say “odd” comments meaning some of you don’t count. 🙂
Thanks Jo for the great site and here’s to another 100,000 comments.
Cheers!
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Sincères félicitations pour ces 100008 commentaires, Jo ! (Sans compter le mien, bien sûr)
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ok, ok , ok Jo…
I got it….
the 100,000th lucky commenter!!! Wait for it, we’ll be sending you on a world tour, a dinner for two, I might just post the Grand Winner both Skeptics Handbook I and II
how about…
A night out to Dinner with:
-You and your better half, David.
-TonyfromOz.
-MemoryVault.
-Pointman.
-BRC.
-Pat.
-Eddy Aruda.
-Juliar.
-Rereke Whakaaro
-John Brookes and MattB for the comedy value.
-BobC.
-BaaHumbug.
-Madjak.
-BobMalloy.
-Speedy.
-Ian Plimer.
-Lord Monckton.
-Prof. Tim Flannery (just joking)…
…we could book out the local Pub, have a great night conversing, wining and dining.
And I can put it all on Craig Thompsons Credit Card! If that is denied, we`ll try Peter Slippers.
What do you reckon? 🙂
PS. Anyone angry I left `em out, please feel free to comment…
…lets call it …” The Feast of the Climate Senses…”
🙂
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Mmm! Ribs!
Tony.
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I hope you will be bringing your batman, Baldrick with you, Captain
Never! That low life peasant can eat out the back with the cows, horses, and Al Gore!! 🙂
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I am glad you corrected your suggestion about Prof. Tim Flannery.
Otherwise we would have had a night of conserving, with whining and droning.
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Gee and I don’t get an invite?!?!?!?
wtf…….. 🙁
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are we a couple now?
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Will post for free stuff bingo!
Century old map throws new doubt on climate change sea level claims
A new book on the history of New Zealand has inadvertently stirred the climate change debate by revealing a near zero sea level increase over the past century.
The book, The Great Divide, includes a 100 year old map of Cloudy Bay lagoons in New Zealand, drafted back in 1912 to show the location of 20 kilometres of canals dug with wooden spades by ancient Maori.
Sun may soon have four poles, say researchers
Officials of the National Astronomical Observatory of Japan and the Riken research foundation said on April 19 that the activity of sunspots appeared to resemble a 70-year period in the 17th century in which London’s Thames froze over and cherry blossoms bloomed later than usual in Kyoto.
2 links via Tom Nelson
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Great links. Interesting stuff.
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I missed it by 19 apparently. Keep up the excellent work Jo.
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Ha…
I had to count them myself Jimmy!
Apologies and you are invited!
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My God want to see some amazing lies, watch this:
http://www.desmogblog.com/climate-change-hoax-hoax-video
How do they get away with it?
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That’s like Monty Python’s “Bicycle Repairman” skit, except Python’s was funny.
I wouldn’t worry Jonathan – they are their own worst enemy!
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I started laughing at the stage they suggested that the medieval warm period was “Big Oil” propaganda . What will They suggest next I wonder ? Something like this maybe ? :
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To quote the modern generation ….. LOL
Tony.
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OK. Doing the numbers behind the scenes, it appears (!!!) Bob Malloy hit the big 100k, with Redc being mere seconds behind. So I’ll send books to both of you. Unless I’m wrong, I think Bob pipped redc for the title. 🙂
Note that as I write this, the stats are
115,590 Comments
100,023 Approved
0 Pending
15,567 Spam
That spam number are just the ones in the spam queue right now (approx 14 days worth).
But (Egad) we missed the really Big clock-over where the total spam hit *1 million*.
“Akismet has protected your site from 1,103,728 spam comments already.”
So there’s the real victor of blog comments – the bots. 90% of comments are spam. Thank goodness for the askimet filter. You can see why when your comments disappear into the filter they will never be seen again unless you ask our starring wonderful dedicated and wise moderators to fish them out (support AT joannenova.com.au). I stopped checking the spam filter in August 2009.
Thank you to commenters and moderators! The site would not be the same without you 🙂
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Thanks for the email but I was pipped by Bob, he deserves any prize you might offer.
And thanks for the blog, I’m one of the lurkers who doesn’t comment much but I do read this and a number of the other skeptical blogs.
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“IPCC? The IPCC is not a scientific instrument. It’s a committee.”
I would add, a political instrument,set up to intentionally promote a pre – determined outcome. Who can call that science? Any thinking person would view it as propaganda; pure and simple. I was an indoctrinated greenie until I took the trouble to check it out.
I hope others will do the same before the media is totally muzzled.
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IPCC are considering changing their name to “The ministry of truth”.
The above statement is a lie.
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Congrats Jo. A great milestone!
Pointman
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So nice to have been able to hear you for the first time, Jo. I liked the humour in your voice, and as your host pointed out, one has to have that good humour if one isn’t going to go nuts.
All power to your elbow! 🙂
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Well done Jo, shows the level of interest you create.
Time for all of us to go to the Tip Jar and support the lady.
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Wow, never thought there is so much spam.
Wonder if one could force a kind of a stamp-post – like cash 1 cent per post. This would reduce the spam or at least would make a small amount of pocket money…
Congrats Jo to your 100000+ comment!
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Shh!
We don’t want to give the Manager Of Government Business any ideas now, do we? Some serious thought on his part might lead to thoughts like this.
“Hmm! Perhaps if we imposed this one cent per spam Tax on these sites it might send them to the wall. Sort of like, umm, Control of the Internet.”
I can see the euphemism for it now. ‘The Death By Spam Tax’.
Tony.
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#”§$%%&/&$#. I was thinking to have it as income for sites, but you are right, the effect would be calculated tax on virtual income…:(
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a curious post at WUWT ‘… reporting that Steve Goddard has died’
Looks as though his site was hacked and he’s back on his old site
stevengoddard.wordpress.com/
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Congratulations Jo ( and all your helpers behind the scenes).
I think the MSM and the dramatic dropping of journalistic standards they employ ( in all areas of news)will see blogs like yours grow significantly in future. It might take some time but it will happen.
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Listening to the radio show while having morning coffee-Priceless
Amr
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Just as Jo has been revisiting some important papers from the past lately, others have been doing some good historical reviews of the “issue”.This one is well worth a read
http://enthusiasmscepticismscience.wordpress.com/2012/04/21/madrid-1995-was-this-the-tipping-point-in-the-corruption-of-climate-science/#more-616
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I agree.
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Congratulations on the commenter milestone Jo. Your blog has given me and many others a voice, allowed me to release some of my frustrations and thereby helped me keep my sanity ( no derogatory comments from other posters who think otherwise please!). Listened to and enjoyed your interview with Kerry Lutz but please get in touch with him ASAP to correct the title of your book on his site. It is definitely not SEPTICS Handbook as now shown there in his written preamble!
Well done Bob Molloy on winning a 1 in 100,000 chance lottery!
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Hi Jo!
This looks like my second ever win. My only other win was some Rosary Beads for a Holy Week poster in primary school.
While I still have and treasure the Rosary Beads, The existance of blogs such as yours, the breadth of coverage that keeps the enquiring mind informed and up to date, honours me by just giving me the opportunity to participate.
Bob
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Bob,
Jefferson letters and more, here –
http://www.barefootsworld.net/tjletters.html
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Thanks Kevin, have bookmarked the page, will now read at my leisure.
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Hey, I know all you readers just click on the site Joanne linked to and then just listen to the radio broadcast, but did any of you read the accompanying text.
In the intro ‘blurb’ it mentions that Joanne is the author of her book, and umm, the title of which is (stated there) the SEPTIC’s Handbook.
Hey, I know that there can be some spelling inconsistencies between Oz and the U.S. and I’m willing to believe the person who wrote that blurb just wrote it and then decided to check the spelling, you know, whether it was spelled with a ‘C’ or a ‘K’ and then just forgot to check, but it it makes you wonder sometimes if something like this is done accidentally or intentionally.
It just seems odd.
The first commenter at the site picked up on it too in perhaps a sly dig at Americans.
Tony.
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Sometimes I forget just how many International visitors this site gets, so I might need to add an explanation for those ‘offshore’ visitors.
The first comment at that site Joanne linked to is this:
Oddly, it’s a clever comment, and sometimes somewhat of an esoteric nature.
We refer to Americans as Yank or Yanks from the American derivative of the Southern term, Yankee.
The word ‘Septic’ here is not meant as derogatory, but is typical rhyming slang. It stands for ‘septic tank’ which rhymes with yank, and here, as is the case with most rhyming slang, the rhyming word is left off, hence ‘septic’ making the reference seemingly nothing to do with the original word.
A septic tank is a somewhat ubiquitous concrete structure under the back yard of early Australian homes, especially here in Queensland, and was in vogue for many years prior to town sewerage being put in place. That tank also had an above ground round concrete structure as well, so the underground tank could be accessed come time for it to be emptied. That above ground structure was great for one specific thing I particularly remember. It was a great platform for smashing that particular Queensland delicacy the Macadamia Nut (also called the Queensland Nut) with a hammer to break the stubbornly hard shell to get at the delicious centre.
So here, septic refers to septic tank, which rhymes with Yank, which is sometimes what we call Americans.
It’s actually a fond term, and in fact is not meant to be in any way derogatory.
Tony.
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Tony, in the Army we used the rhyming slang “Septic Tanks” for the Yanks.
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Jo,
The prize you offered for 100,000th comment (a couple of books) seems to me a little bit over the top. With all the claims of how well funded the “denialist machine” is don’t you think that by offering such a valuable prize you open yourself up to criticism and questions regarding your funding sources?
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Three excellent topical articles at ICECAP. Our own David Evans gets a mention in the Genocidal Green Quotes piece.
Apr 16, 2012
“Forecast the Facts” – just another highly paid mouthpiece of the Center for American Progress Anthony Watts
Apr 17, 2012
We Live in Nineteen Eighty Twelve By Art Horn
Apr 20, 2012
Genocidal Green Quotes as Earth Day (Lenin’s birthday) approaches
http://www.icecap.us/
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You on to this already, Jo ?
http://enthusiasmscepticismscience.wordpress.com/2012/04/21/madrid-1995-was-this-the-tipping-point-in-the-corruption-of-climate-science/#more-616
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Oh well, I didn’t get the 100,000th comment. Maybe the 200,000th. Keep posting guys!
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The Maori canals were thought to date from ~1800 according to a 1912 paper in the Journal of The Polynesian Society. See my article –
http://www.warwickhughes.com/blog/
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Congrats on the 100,000+ comments. They say the first 100,000 are the hardest.
Great interview with Kerry Lutz, but Goll-lee does that guy talk slow for a radio host or what?
cheers 😉
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100,000 comments is a great vote of confidence in this site.
Congrats from me and MaryFJohnston who also used to post here.
🙂 🙂
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I miss Mary, any chance she may make a spirited comeback?
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Hello Crackar
MaryF is gone but I when I first started to post, the debate was focused on the CO2 – IR – UV interaction. I have learned a lot about AGW since then and much more about the insidious nature of politics where we have the ABC and its’ science and nature programs still pushing the message to the average Australian.
I’m at the end of building a house and hopefully about to move so haven’t posted here much lately but still have a read occasionally.
It’s a great blog.
🙂
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I like the cut of your jib here but when it comes to government money, there is nothing to be skeptical about. To be skeptical, you would generally be considered to be in doubt of.
Money is the one & only thing with a constant marginal utility, that is, you cannot have enough of it. Government money is junk, it cannot possibly have a constant marginal utility since you certainly can have to much junk.
Government money is fraud. Fraud is a crime. It is not logical to be a skeptic of government money.
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thanks for acknowledging my efforts at 99999 and 100202. I was checking the AFL results and arrived at just the critical moment. For a near miss I’ll be happy to not win a Nova prize.
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I’m planing my assault on 100202 now
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The interesting number here is the spam filter, if that was not in place you would have 1,200,000 hits on your blog. That is impressive, what is more impressive is that so many idiots tried to spam your blog. (Most spams are for promoting their products) CTS
I can only imagine that many are paid to drown the truth, to shoot the messenger so to speak.
Thank you Jo
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I likd that one about the Spanish solar plant, running on Diesel at night.
Isn’t that just the resourceful Spanish making their solar plants do what other plants do naturally, ie. generating CO2 at night.
As long as they were paying for the diesel, why not.
Where gullible government seeks to manipulate free markets, there are always enterprising individuals who will see the opportunity to take advantage of the distortions created.
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Duh, guess there were loads of comments posted trying to time this.
O well, congrats to the one who won…….who was it? 🙂
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O/T but see suggestions for celebrating Earth Day at TAV
http://noconsensus.wordpress.com/2012/04/22/2345-5/
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Congrats Bob for the 100,000th comment, you are a worthy and well deserved winner. I am boxing up my virtual bottle of Grange i won for being the 50,000th commenter and will send it to you shortly.
It felt just like yesterday when i won that award…………..in fact it was just over 12 months ago April 6 2011, so thats 50,000 / 365 = 137 mostly good comments now if only we could expand that spam filter a little more.
Well done Bob and well done to you Jo and all your mods.
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amazing how little CAGW things can get the attention of the MSM!
22 April: UK Daily Mail: Katherine Faulkner: Why the cardboard in your loo roll is being slashed: Sainsbury’s trims size in bid to reduce environmental impact
Each roll will be 11 millimetres slimmer – 112mm instead of 123mm – while the number of sheets will remain as 240…
Sainsbury’s claims the move will avoid 500 annual lorry trips from suppliers to stores and save 140 tons of carbon dioxide…
It insists customers will not struggle to squeeze the new toilet rolls onto holders…
Miss Tucker said the change would give ‘an essential household product a lower carbon footprint.’ …
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2133643/Why-loo-roll-getting-smaller-Sainsburys-cuts-size-attempt-reduce-environmental-impact.html
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Reading your post the first thing that came to mind was: I bet they won’t reduce the price and I thought of commenting that straight away. However this time I figured to be different then my usual and not trust my gut feeling and actually read the article. Guess what, we reduce the size by 9%, we save the planet loads of CO2, read our transport costs, AND for all that we keep the price the same.
What is good for the bottom line will now be expressed in tons of CO2 saved and I bet that the consumers will flock to Sainsbury because they CARE about the environment.
Bull dust.
If they would really care they would reduce their price to reflect the savings they make. This is just a way to improve margins, 130 litres odd of diesel per lorry trip plus the time each trip takes, maintenance savings etc, plus the 9% in paper savings. Multiply that by the millions of rolls they sell each year is: mega dollars.
Hey if they can sell it like that to the UK public good for them but I hope that the UK consumer is a bit more savvy then that.
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Hey, way off topic I know, and I apologise for that, but just how serious are these people?
Tarong and Tarong North power plants, both near Nanango in Queensland, and suppliers of around 2000MW of coal fired power have just completed upgrades to both plants. That upgrade cost $50 Million, and upgrades their control systems, better boilers and turbines, and work on their nearby fuel source, their coal mine.
It will result in securing Queensland’s power supply out to the mid 2030’s.
The best part about all this was that it was done under a Queensland Labor Government and while a Federal Labor Government were both in power.
Now, no operator in his right mind is going to even thought bubble proposals to spend that amount on upgrades if coal is on the way out. Also, they are not going to proceed unless there is a cast iron contract to supply for that period. So, while the talking heads stand in front of the cameras and say “Cloymat Change is reeyall” or even “We are Queenslanders” with breaking voice, they are just flat out misleading you.
Here’s the link to That article.
And when people tell you that for the sake of the environment we need to radically cut back on our consumption of electricity, also be aware that those same talking heads know the following, and are acutely aware of just that, when the operator says this:
Note specifically the word ‘expected’.
Beyond Zero Emissions in their laughable proposal to move to 100% renewables by 2020 based EVERYTHING on a halving of our current electrical consumption.
Do not ever believe there will be that sort of cutback.
The Government in their own yearly paper on Energy has said for the last 4 years that consumption is currently expanding by around 5 to 7%.
Give me strength.
Tony.
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It looks like JuLiar lost a slipper.
She really should pay a bit more attention to her slippers….
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BoltA’s on to this one LOL http://blogs.news.com.au/couriermail/andrewbolt/index.php/couriermail/comments/comment_of_the_day/
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If I Wanted America to Fail
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=CZ-4gnNz0vc
Brilliant piece from Andrew Bolts Blog via Catallaxy Files
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Wayne, s. Job Thanks for trying to help I am still on my own against the warmist trolls. Yes you need an Amazon account for the forums there. Thanks again, I like coming here, you are all my friends. Jo is a hero of mine.
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20 April: NoTricksZone: P. Gosselin: European Big Brother: CarbonSat Surveillance Satellite Aims “To Hunt Down Climate Violators” GLOBALLY By 2017!
At first the Astrium press release here in English makes it sound like they need the data to refine the climate models. But notice how Dudok reveals the true intentions of the technology: global surveillance…
http://notrickszone.com/2012/04/20/european-big-brother-carbonsat-surveillance-satellite-aims-to-hunt-down-climate-violators-globally-by-2017/
19 April: Press Release: Astrium/EADS: CarbonSat – On the trail of greenhouse gases
CarbonSat will provide the first exhaustive surveys of small-scale sources of emissions around the globe, thereby making a significant contribution towards our ability to distinguish between natural emissions and those arising from human activity. The CarbonSat climate satellite will therefore also have an important role to play in the context of the international climate deals signed in Kyoto and Copenhagen…
http://www.astrium.eads.net/en/press_centre/carbonsat-on-the-trail-of-greenhouse-gases.html?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter
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Did anyone watch QandA with Bob Brown? I am amazed how people are sucked into his lies.
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I hope Tony was listening – Bob gave the inference that solar and wind can supply power 24/7.
His idea of the UN being an elected world governing body for the good of the planet means that the Soviet modelled UN constitution would need rewriting. He should ask himself the question – who owns the UN?
To the dumbed down,he would sound plausible, but in reality he is a snake oil salesman.
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who is the “Redc” you refer to?
(i’d hate to think there were two of me floating around… %-)
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