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Forget cost and gigawatts — lets solve climate by turning toxic white men into soy boys

Stupid engineers think we need climate models that work and electricity that costs less than a dollar a kilowatt hour. All along we’ve been worried about FCAS, moist adiabatic lapse rates, voltage surges, and frequency drops, while the answer was staring us in the face.

The cheapest way to change the global climate is to call men petty names, bully them into submission and kick their truck nuts.

Here’s “genius” Megan MacKenzie: Professor of Gender and War at the University of Sydney showing us how little she knows about climate, men or war.

Is fragile masculinity the biggest obstacle to climate action?

Megan MacKenzie, ABC

Leaving fossil fuels in the ground symbolises a loss of power and money. Some male leaders see real climate action as a threat to power and to profit, through extraction and exploitation of the environment.

Male resistance to climate action has bipartisan support. Any hope that the Labor party might offer climate policy alternatives the Liberals went up in smoke in the past few months as Anthony Albanese announced he doesn’t want to phase out coal.

Researchers in Norway also found what they call a “cool dude effect” when it comes to climate change.

They show that white conservative men, especially those that think they understand the science of climate change, are the biggest climate deniers and the least likely to be moved by further research.

There are multiple examples of ‘cool climate dudes’ and petro-masculinity, including “right wingers…going crazy about meat”, by embracing diets called “the carnivore” or “the caveman” at the same time that vegans are belittled as “soyboys” and “beta males”.

We knew Sydney Uni and the ABC are intellectually primitive, incompetent, slaves to fashionthink, but this dumber than that.

Time to just say No. No more funds to Sydney Uni, no more funds to the ABC. No more funds to the human rights commission either. Sexist, racist, self-serving intolerance is apparently fine.

Toxic white men with balls are the reason Megan MacKenzie has the freedom to write noxious self-serving trollop and get paid for it.

– h/t David B

 

 

 

 

 

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321 comments to Forget cost and gigawatts — lets solve climate by turning toxic white men into soy boys

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    Of course this came from an academic. Of course it did. And an academic with a pointless job description. Gender and War? How about Gender and Coffee Grinders? Or Gender and iPhone Apps? Or Gender and Lawn Care?

    Oh, wait… I think I just gave the University of Sydney some new ideas. Darn it. What do I do now?

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      C. Paul Barreira

      “What do I do now?”

      Simple:

      Time to just say No. No more funds to Sydney Uni, no more funds to the ABC.

      etc.

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      Pointless job description, ‘Gender and War,’ couldn’t agree moah to both of the above comments re the scholasticism of the post-modern universities and re taxing the productive to finance the navel-gazing and the insane.

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        ColA

        I think the ‘and’ is superfluous, then just throw in a ‘toxic’ for good measure, such a cute word!

        TOXIC Professor of Gender War

        – there, nailed it!!

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      Mal

      What happens if a white male suddenly discovers that he/she/it is a female under the new gender fluidity meme
      Can he/she/it rely on outrage and the antidiscrimination act to protect them?
      If so should all white males suddenly become female?
      Sounds like a plan.

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        OriginalSteve

        I heard someond joking they identified as a building crane…such is the absurdity and joke that is PC.

        White educated males maybe the identified targets of the PC crowd perhaps because they are good at calling out PC and CAGW as the complete nobsense that it is, and people listen to them.

        Ive been called a “1950s throwback”….which just makes makes me prety normal in the overall scheme of things, however in the touchy feely, everyone wins a prize, multisex toilet PC era , whereby “unconcious bias” means eradicating all natural forms of sexual or gender behaviour and replacing it with the lunatic PC “theory” and teaching 6 year olds about all forms of sexual perversion but labelling it “normal and healthy” …well they can go jump. Legalizing evil doesnt make it right….

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        yarpos

        I identify as an indigenous , transexual, buddhist, female who primarily speaks French at home , for census purposes.

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      Deano

      Actually, I would have thought the last thing feminists would want to mention in the same sentence are war and gender. Not much equality there yet.

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      R.B.

      Studies of Greta Giving Sceptics the Runs. Might as well, Chemistry and Geology get fossil fuel funding.

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      Geoff

      Universities have slowly captured the “you must have a piece of paper” to be qualified space. Now they move on to “space creation” itself. Woke employment options or qualifications without purpose beyond creation of more teaching positions concerned with nothing useful.

      Has anyone noticed that all these newby qualified PhDs and honours grads invariably work for tax paid or borrowed funding? This is not healthy. We are training people to believe in the magic pudding. Creating an elite that knows nothing and paying them via enforced taxation to achieve nothing, raises unsustainable expectations. This elite will spend all their time maintaining government funding by creating crisis and chaos.

      The smarter or better connected do nothings will move to our superannuation industry, demanding yet more “qualifed” success. Super will become the new tax pool. A trough of enforced, centrally controlled funding for woke warriors.

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      Another Ian

      KDG (#10 Not to worry.

      You said it here, where that crew is unlikely to read and get ideas.

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      Komrade Kuma

      Gender and War?

      Hmmm… white feathers sent to teenagers….. there is gender and war for you.

      I remember a time when the ABC had a comedy show called Australia, You’re Standing in it which used to take the mickey out of PC airhead types like “Professor” McKenzie.

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    Pauly

    Jo, I think you meant “moist adiabatic lapse rate”

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      Jonesy

      Actually, the term is “saturated” adiabatic lapse rate.

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        Pauly

        The two qualifiers I’ve always used are “dry” and “moist”. Perhaps you are confusing them with the “Dew Point”, which is the altitude where water vapour does reach saturation, above which clouds form. Below and above this altitude, I believe it is still known as the moist adiabatic lapse rate.

        But then, my meteorological knowledge is getting a bit dated. Happy to be corrected.

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    PeterW

    A feminist…..

    Is a woman living in a society made safe, comfortable and prosperous but the blood, sweat and inspiration of men… and whining about male privilege.

    I grew up around educated, self-respecting women who despised feminism. At least in part because they watched their fathers, brothers, uncles and cousins go off to war, so that the women could be safe at home.

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      Salome

      I know an ideological feminist (we’ve remained friends through thick and thin, largely by ‘not going there’ most of the time) who has remained sufficiently feminine (far more than I) to get her into the happy position of being ‘kept’.

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    pat

    Megan would undoubtedly have fought against this wind farm!?

    13 Dec: PostMillennial: Ontario locals help stop nearly-completed wind farm from running due to danger to bats
    by Quinn Patrick
    The Environment Minister is closing a $200 million project by Nation Rise Wind Farm near Finch, Ontario. The Stormont County town windmill project was nearly complete with many of the planned 29 turbines already constructed. That came to an abrupt halt on Monday when Minister Jeff Yurek revoked the approval, citing a threat to the local bat population.

    Several of the turbines were ready to begin generating power and the project had been previously approved by the Environmental Review Tribunal. Nation Rise Wind Farm is a subsidiary of the multinational EDP Renewables, their North American headquarters is in Texas…

    The Environmental Tribunal held weeks-long hearings to look at objections to the project that covered a range of issues. It’s been a rather divisive issue in the community and the township has twice voted against being a “willing host” for the project.
    There are a variety of reasons people complain about wind turbines in their community. The eye sore, the claim that vibrations caused by them bring on migraines, the price of real estate drops instantly and as well the effects on the local wildlife…

    The colonies of bats include big brown bats, hoary bats and little brown bats, which are on the Species at Risk Ontario List. The fear is that the bats will fly into the turbine blades. Yurek admits that one while one can’t know the full extent of the harm, it’s better to err on the side of caution…

    “This power project has been very divisive for our community; now North Stormont can again be a good place to grow,” said Maragret Benke in a statement. a founding member of the grassroots organization Concerned Citizens of North Stormont. The group appealed the approval and reached out to the Minister for help…
    https://www.thepostmillennial.com/ontario-locals-help-stop-nearly-completed-wind-farm-from-running-due-to-danger-to-bats/

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    Greg in NZ

    I’ve known three Megans/Meghans and they’ve ALL been totally off-the-planet whacko-wimyn types – then again, it’s Welsh for ‘pearl’, yet all I can think of is (oysters?) the Biblical proverb about casting them (not) before swine.

    Today’s number is two-sixty-nine (269), that wonderful reciprocal spiritual number of bliss. It’s also the number of days this year without sunspots… we have a winner, folks, and it’s the sun! Hint: it aint carbon dioxide, Peter.

    https://www.spaceweather.com

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    Andrew McRae

    Correction Crew to the rescue!

    to write noxious self-serving tr___op

    You meant the word “tripe”.
    I’m sure of it.
    I’ve got a gut instinct about it.

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      sophocles

      tr__op in all my dictionaries has a single, blunt meaning which is most likely to attract instant defamation action.
      Change it ASAP. Codswallop (nonsense) or tripe maybe, but not that word.

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        Andrew McRae

        Jo, mods, I think sophocles is right here. The rhyme makes me think Jo probably meant to use “codswallop”.
        I’d forgotten all about codswallop.

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    A Professor of War and Gender is a professor of nothing. Now all of this woman’s life will be a compensation. Because even she knows she is a professor of nothing.

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    Tel

    Marxism is about divisiveness and envy. Treat people as identity groups, and then turn those people against each other by filling them with anger and envy of some other group.

    Their only other trick is to blame other people for whatever they are doing … in order to create a bit of confusion.

    You can be absolutely sure that in this particular case the first priority was hating men, and everything else was designed to reach the conclusion that men are to blame.

    They show that white conservative men, especially those that think they understand the science of climate change, are the biggest climate deniers and the least likely to be moved by further research.

    I’m highly interested in further research, providing the researcher can show clear understanding of the Scientific Method to my satisfaction, and they don’t tweak, adjust, modify, or homogenize their data, and all source material is provided for public download in the interest of reproducibility.

    Speaking of “further research” there’s a new Delingpole interview covering yet another scientific career that was prematurely terminated by Al Gore for the crime of getting politically incorrect results. You can add Will Happer to the long list along with Ed Krug, Dr. William Gray and heaps of others.

    https://delingpole.podbean.com/e/delingpod-49-will-happer/

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      Peter C

      I’m highly interested in further research, providing the researcher can show clear understanding of the Scientific Method to my satisfaction

      Very responsible and reasonable, But I think you will find that Dr McKenzie is a fruitcake!

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        Kneel

        But I think you will find that Dr McKenzie is a fruitcakeloop!

        Fixed it. :-)

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        Ted O'Brien.

        Such thinking can only be arrived at by group use of mind altering substances.

        How long till April 1?

        I thought this was a leg pulling exercise. But this is copied from the Sydney Uni website: “Megan MacKenzie is a Professor of Gender and War in the Department of Government and International Relations at the University of Sydney”. It’s real!

        Maybe that woman who suggested we “start burning stuff” was right. Start with some of their books.

        Surely it’s time for a big clean out.

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    Serge Wright

    Trust the ABC to use the reverse race card as a blame game exercise and totally ignore the real debate.

    The real debate raging within society is all about disruption to our lifestyles and just how much disruption we are willing to accept. Ironically, this disruption is caused by left wing ideologues trying to shift us away from cheap & reliable coal power to expensive and unreliable wind and solar power. As we have seen in every election since 2007, once RE policies hit people’s jobs and hip pockets then resistance increases. The last election here was no different and people whose jobs were at risk in places like north QLD and the Hunter region rebelled very strongly against more disruption and voted accordingly.

    And, the people who are resisting this RE created disruption are certainly not a white male group. For example, consider India, China and SE Asia, where non-white countries totalling many billions of people are rapidly expanding their coal-fired power plants. Back here in Australia, the people mostly affected by RE disruption are low income / blue collar workers which includes a high percentage of non-white people, many of whom are migrants. RE disruption is rapidly offshoring their manufacturing jobs and puts low income households rapidly into energy poverty. Rather ironically, the group of people within society that is pushing for more RE disruption are weathly white people who live in inner city suburbs and whose jobs tend to be in professional services industries that are not affected by RE disruption and in many cases are recipients of the government largesse associated with RE. I also find it extrememly hyocritical of the extreme left-wing club at the ABC, who are paid fat government salaries from our taxes that can afford high energy prices and whose jobs are not impacted by the impacts of RE disruption, to not only deflect the issue into a race debate, but to have no obvious care of the plight of people who are being impacted. Worse still the ABC is effectively pushing the left-wing agenda of more RE disruption and hardship onto the most susceptable people within society.

    My question to the ABC – You know that adding more unreliable RE into the electricity grid will only create more power outages, lead to offshoring of manufacturing and farming sector jobs that are enery intensive, increase energy prices and create energy poverty for almost all but wealthy inner city people and, yet make no measurable difference to global CO2. So why push this harmful agenda ?. One can only conclude that you hate your fellow Australians and seek to enjoy watching the resulting demise and suffering. After all, what other outcome can you expect ?

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      Serge
      Completely correct.
      These leftists and the ABC have no brains between them. RE does not work, period, in supplying our energy grid at more than small percentages due to its intermittent nature.

      but there is a solution to their non problem that is staring them in the face NUCLEAR POWER. Their silence on this tells me they are full of BS.

      Morrison and co are stupid – why not call out the total stupidity of these clowns? By not doing so they demonstrate their own stupidity.

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        yarpos

        Nuclear power is a non starter in Oz for no other reason than NIMBYism. Even if we got over all the existing hurdles it/they would never find a site. It would inevitably be the home of the speckled warbler, would inevitably be a sacred site, and then the locals would need to want it. Too many layers.

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          Andrew McRae

          That may be the case, but that requires a lot of reading between the lines. On the surface, the latest Parliamentary report into the issue has recommended progress towards nuclear implementations, but it stops short of saying power stations should be built.

          https://www.aph.gov.au/~/media/02%20Parliamentary%20Business/24%20Committees/243%20Reps%20Committees/EnvironmentEnergy/Nuclear%20energy/Full%20report.pdf?la=en

          I believe this report — entitled Not without your approval — provides a way forward for nuclear technology in Australia by proposing three recommendations to the Commonwealth Government. Firstly, that it consider the prospect of nuclear technology as part of its future energy mix; secondly, that it undertake a body of work to progress the understanding of nuclear technology in the Australian context; and thirdly, that it consider lifting the current moratorium on nuclear energy partially—that is, for new and emerging nuclear technologies only, and conditionally — that is, subject to the results of a technology assessment and to a commitment to community consent for approving nuclear facilities.
          Ted O’Brien MP
          Chair

          Is it NIMBYism, or is it just common decency to allow people the choice of their risk exposure? It is arguably a similar situation to medical procedures where the person most able to understand the risk is not the person who has to live with it. Just because patients don’t have in-depth medical knowledge does not mean we put people in handcuffs and strap them to the operating table for their (or our) own good. They still have to give consent before undergoing any medical intervention – even one that everyone agrees is safe. A similar commitment to community approval on nuclear power stations emphasises that education of the public on nuclear technology and risks was always important in gaining a good solution.

          It is quite straightforward to explain why new (“Gen 4″) nuclear designs built after 1995 are superior in safety to any design that has ever had a radiological release accident. I think most people can be convinced of this too. Consultation does not necessarily result in NIMBY.

          Of course one question which has no nice answer to it will inevitably be asked: If this is so safe why don’t you build it on the Yarra River at Collingwood? The only honest answer is: there is still the possibility of unknown unknowns and if these unknown or unlikely failure modes were to be exacerbated by deliberate sabotage or terrorist attack we’d still like to limit the number of people injured, therefore low density areas make the worst case better. The lowest density areas are a long way from the power grid and often a long way from cooling water supplies, so zero population areas are not an economic choice nor even a safe choice. These are the kinds of hard truths that the public consultation should work through.

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        Serge Wright

        The most illogical response to RE disruption is what’s occuring in SA, where the government is now heavily subsidising solar + batteries to poorer households so they can avoid using the unaffordable RE grid energy. Of course all this does is to make the grid energy even more expensive for other users, pushing more and more people into energy poverty and creating a death spiral.

        It would seem that the criteria for a person to get elected to parliament these days is to demonstrate a negative IQ. In south Austraia we must be approaching negative infinity. :(

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    Peter C

    I think Megan MacKenzie: Professor of Gender and War at the University of Sydney is best ignored right now.

    However lets put her name on the list, for when University funding is next on the agenda.

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      sophocles

      Sounds very easy to ignore.
      Codswallop is easily forgettable.

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      Tel

      University funding should always be on the agenda, just like any other ways that government uses force to redistribute money from one person to another person.

      I personally recommended the concept of “clawback” where if student debts are not paid within some specified time frame (e.g. 15 years) government starts to take money back from the institution that trained this person. It means we have the “skin in the game” principle applied to university education.

      Then, if the institution chooses to host degrees that result in graduates who are useless and unemployable (and I’m not saying which ones those are because that would merely be my opinion) then said institution will make a loss on those. In the long run, the market gets to decide what works and what doesn’t.

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      yarpos

      Between this and the JCU fiasco, you really have to wonder how Universities rationalize their costs. What value these activities bring to the intellectual life of Australia remains a mystery, to me at least.

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    Alfred

    Sometimes I think that it was a mistake to give the vote to women, but then I remember our Joanne. :-)

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    TdeF

    “white conservative men, especially those that think they understand the science of climate change”

    What science? Not a single prediction in 31 years has been right.

    The only people pushing this crock are people who earn their living from it. Including now Megan Mackenzie.

    And I suppose Gender and War are the same subject? Or is that just another woke sexist view of human history?

    More than half of today’s university staff should get a real job and stop robbing the public purse and teaching made up rubbish.

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      Peter Fitzroy

      Facts? You have none

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        Sceptical Sam

        OK Peter, I’m game.

        Name us three projections that the climate activist “scientists” have got correct?

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          robert rosicka

          Ooh this is easy , summer was going to be hot and winter was going to be cold and if it doesn’t rain there will be a drought .

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        AndyG55

        “Facts? You have none”

        Says the little boy who has never been able to back up anything he ever says with any actual evidence.

        Don’t mock yourself so much !!

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    WXcycles

    The best response to Meghan is to be a man, exercise, work, create, build, invent, hunt, explore, provide, protect, repair, watch football or MotoGP then have a meal and do some fun stuff with your best-friend of the opposite-sex.

    (I’m not into the gender stuff, the two-’sexes’ is much less prone to … er … error)

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      Power Grab

      That sounds like a sustainable path.

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      sophocles

      The best response to Meghan is to ignore her.
      She is just adding noise (white? pink?) to the overall noise level of life.
      To pay any attention is to give her gravitas she doesn’t deserve.

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      Analitik

      repair, watch football or MotoGP

      OT – Bring back the 2-strokes that a home mechanic could do most of the work on, especially in the minor classes.

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        WXcycles

        I love the power-band. I’ve owned a couple of RD/RZ 2-strokes though not a fan since one of them ate its engine at highway speed ($530 to rebuild it, even destroyed the crank, so installed a secondhand one). Only bought 4-strokes since then and never had one fail. Discovered the joys of torque with a screamer’s top-end. That was actually a fair bit more fun out of the corners.

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    robert rosicka

    Is Rock Paper Scissors a toxic masculinity gender oppressive game ?
    Asking for a friend .

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    Peter Fitzroy

    A woke academic snowflake mansplaining masculinity as a clickbait opinion piece? And guess what, its working

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    Peter Fitzroy

    “woke academic” should read “woke feminist academic”

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      AndyG55

      Plenty of “woke” male academics out there too.

      And plenty of “woke” AGW tragics. ;-)

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        OriginalSteve

        I had the fortune to see a uni maths get together in a pub not long ago….its like zombies ate these peoples brains….leftist groupthink and the fertilizer flowed freely…scary stuff….not an independent thought amongst them…all i could observe was Pavlovs dogs…

        No wonder people dont take university seriously anymore…its just a festering sore of groupthink.

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          Deano

          The people you describe are usually such bores that they only have each other as friends – no one else can stand them. They HAVE to all stay in line as they have no alternative social circle.

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        Kalm Keith

        Andy, to be fair, not all male academics are “woke”.

        I thought we discussed that recently. :-)

        KK

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        PeterW

        Plenty of woke male feminists, too….. getting in touch with their “inner woman”.

        Facts are a part of the oppressive patriarchy, you know.

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      Fred Streeter

      Surely no woke woman could be other than feminist?

      (Wokeness being an all-embracing state of self-righteousness?)

      As for being an academic, she is hardly original, copying the ideas of Micheal “Xenosceptic” Barnard, who suggested that those unable to convince “Deniers” rationally, resorted to the:

      “It must not be very pleasant to hang out with other global warming ‘skeptics’ these days what with so many of the crowd being so obviously frothing racists and deluded.”

      CAGW “Doubters”, he suggests, become more acceptive, by the demonising of the Deniers to their right.

      The Deniers are then silenced by the fear of being associated with the “frothing racists and deluded” to their right.

      Now he is a true academic.

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        Kalm Keith

        He certainly is a true modern acca.
        Did he consciously make that up or did it just evolve automatically from the vast resources of his modern brain state?

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          Fred Streeter

          I presume the former.

          If one can’t present a convincing argument based on actual Science, then one has to resort to mind games to condition Doubters and Deniers into superficial Believers.

          Must keep that 97%, no matter what motivates the responses.

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    Going back, an education was supposed to stop you thinking in superficialities (like statistics) and media cliches (like “cool dudes”). Now superficialities and media cliches are education. Our Professor of Nothing even attributes “cool dudes” to “researchers in Norway”.

    Tonight I happened to be reading about the amazing G#y-Lussac, the French researcher of the early 1800s who worked on everything from gases to elements to yeasts, and did some of his best work from a hot air balloon. Wonder why he never discovered anything truly important like cool dude syndrome or fragile masculinity…

    Worse, his student Liebig knew nothing about petro-masculinity. Thank God we now have those “researchers in Norway”.

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    PeterS

    Good way for the far left of politics (ie, ALP+Greens) to be kept out of office for a much longer time than usual. Please keep it up you leftist retards at the Universities.

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    Deplorable Lord Kek

    Speaking of Sydney Uni (as in only one opinion allowed):

    University of Sydney Law School declares climate emergency

    https://sydney.edu.au/news-opinion/news/2019/12/11/university-of-sydney-law-school-declares-climate-emergency.html

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      OriginalSteve

      They have a right to declare a “climate emergency”, just as students have a right to choose a different law school that reflects thier scientific knowledge…

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        TdeF

        Lawyer? Scientific knowledge? Most have trouble with arithmetic and graphs are alien lifeforms. Compound interest baffles them. Unfortunately most politicians are lawyers which explains a lot.

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      Kalm Keith

      What has the world come to!

      Reality is no longer permitted to exist.

      It has been declared illegal and Must conform to the new world order where All thought is encouraged and protect.

      The world has gone mad.

      KK

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        PeterS

        Yes a lot of the world has gone mad and reality is being twisted by the far left. There are still sufficient numbers who live in the real word who will fight to the death against that trend to protect their beliefs. The problem then is the far left also have the same conviction with the only difference being their eyes are shut and their brains are turned off. At some point there will be a major clash. The signs are all there.

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          OriginalSteve

          Sady I agree that there will be clash, which I suspect will be in the USA and spread globally. Although I suspect when it goes hot, it may start a second american revolution.
          Possibly it may be a good thing ( if such a thing can be ) if it thoroughly routs the cancer of communism from the USA…..

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        Kalm Keith

        Here’s a link to details of one recent family resolution to the global warming thing.

        https://m.facebook.com/Libertarian.AU/

        Not sure whether it will come up on the item, but let’s see.

        KK

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          Kalm Keith

          Sorry, it’s a long way down, dated end of November with the girl holding the resistance placard.

          A letter from a father to Craig Kelly.

          The operator of the site is a very realistic transgender person.

          KK

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    Fin

    Hilarious. There’s no escaping Miss Megan,”especially those that[sic] think they understand the science of climate change, are the biggest climate deniers”. Ah yes, all other males, including other scientists, of course, only “think” they understand what Megan knows and grasps.
    Poor Megan, she should get a job counting votes for Kim Il Jung, with the round filing bucket receiving all evidence to the contrary.

    Megan has the intellect and understanding of the philosophy of science on a par with a 16 year old schoolgirl truant.

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    Senex

    If she is so worried about warming, she could always leave temperate Sydney and move back to her birthplace in Moose Jaw, Saskatchewan. Just in time for winter, with a mean January temperature of -12C.

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      John F. Hultquist

      The mean likely will not kill you.
      -40 might.

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      Bill In Oz

      So that’s where she hails from.
      Her bio gives no details at on on her web site..
      i guess she did not want us to know.
      Selectively deleting facts from her life story ?
      But can we organise for her to go back & freeze forever in Canada ?
      Now that would be good & useful/

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    Deano

    Perhaps the professor has a point. You see currently, men know that women prefer guys who are competitive and either financially secure or headed that way with drive and ambition. Women match up with those men and produce children. Our modern industrial economy supports this and CO2 production is the result. How awful!

    But by changing men into pathetic self-loathing soy boy wimps who worry about their toxic masculinity and male privilege, women will completely lose all interest in us and the birthrate will plummet. Also, given that so much of our economy is actually ultimately driven by the need to impress the opposite sex, once that motivation is gone the economy collapses. CO2 production drastically dives. Result!

    What a clever professor.

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      Bill In Oz

      Sounds like a Greenist plot to me.
      Or did you just make it all up on the fly ?
      Good work if you did !
      :-)

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      yarpos

      I wonder what women really think of the array of male talent they have created for themselves? I have trouble beleiving that is really what they want in terms of a mate. Probably explains the ever increasing single households and cries of “where have all the good men gone?”

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        Deano

        yarpos – It makes me wonder if the feminists are secretly jealous of the ability of those traitors to the Sisterhood – the sexy chicks – to effortlessly attract the hot guys. So they try to sabotage the goods by turning men into woosies. I’d put my money on several million years of genetics to win out here.

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    Steve

    Hmmmm …. It’s all the evil white men eh?

    Looking at the top 15 carbon emitting countries, I only count three (USA, Russia, Canada) that are currently led by white men. I guess you could argue that Iran, Brazil, and Mexico are also run by white men, but people from those countries are usually identified by their religion (Islam) or their geographic/linguistic origins (Hispanic) rather than by their skin color. Either way, the majority of major global emitters are NOT run by white men.

    https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/e/e7/Total_CO2_emissions_by_country_in_2017_vs_per_capita_emissions_%28top_40_countries%29.svg

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    Hanrahan

    My Father and his brothers fought in France in the mud and gas of the Great War.

    There is possibly no term I hate more than “toxic masculinity”.

    Mrs H’s parents were western pioneers, her mother was the first white child born in Quilpie. None of the men I met were “toxic” and all respected women, but they were not soy boys.

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      yarpos

      There is a great meme around on toxic masculinity. Its shows an actual photo of a burly guy walking with a small Asian women and her baby in his arms. He is wading through flood water to get them to safety. The words underneath say something like “Toxic Masculunity? yeah, because when the SHTF everyone calls in the feminists”

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    Hanrahan

    My Father and his brothers fought in France in the mud and gas of the Great War.

    There is possibly no term I hate more than “toxic masculinity”.

    Mrs H’s parents were western pioneers, her mother was the first white child born in Quilpie. None of the men of that generation I met were “toxic” and all respected women, but they were not soy boys.

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    kevin a

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0mJfxryPhw0&t=22s
    Scientists SHOCKED That “Gender Bending” Chemicals IN OUR FOOD 44 Times HIGHER Than Thought

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    Yonason

    CORRECTION

    “… the reason Megan MacKenzie has the freedom to write noxious self-serving trollop crap and get paid for it.”

    Someone may have already pointed this out, but trollop is the wrong word. I have replaced it with one that’s more appropriate.

    You’re welcome.

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    R.B.

    Could do with some references. Wouldn’t want it coming across as a brainfart.

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    Reed Coray

    This thread triggered the recall of a memory that had something to do with “Angels,” “dancing” and “heads of pins.” That memory will probably be replaced by its modern incarnation: “Megan MacKenzie,”navel gazing,” and “pinheads.”

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    pattoh

    People wonder why some cultural groups consistently group higher in IQ & more challenging studies – the old nature or nurture arguments.

    Here is an empirical test of “Gender & War Studies”*:-

    How would the demographic breakdown of that faculty compare to say Medicine or Physics?

    What would be the entry requirements? [Apart from pink hair, piercings & a potty mouth]

    *[ I think perhaps the "&" is superflous............]

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    joseph

    Gender and Wore me out.

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    David Maddison

    A “Professor of War and Gender” is as absurd as the Centre for Studies of Climate Change Denialism (CEFORCED) at Chalmers University in Sweden.

    https://www.chalmers.se/en/departments/tme/centres/ceforced/Pages/default.aspx

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    David Maddison

    Paul Joseph Watson talks about “soy boys”.

    https://youtu.be/FTSvLKY7HEk

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    PeterW

    Whore and gender?

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    EasilySolved

    Hmmm I avoid soy so there must be some science behind this.

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    AndyG55

    The left just keeps getting loopier and loopier !

    People are starting to see this..

    Hence Trump, Boris etc.

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      PeterS

      Correct. Polarisation of political and social opinion is on the increase. At some stage though it will lead to violence on a scale we haven’t see for a very long time. The left have been shown to be sore losers and refuse to learn from the error of their way. They will persist on attacking politically and socially with increasing intensity.

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        OriginalSteve

        I often wonder if it takes a type of brain ( thats possibly “misfiring”? ) to go far left in its views.

        The old saying of you cant reason with someone who is insane is sometimes bandied about.

        Could this explain why its near impossible to reason with some people on such matters……?

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          PeterS

          I’m not an expert in such matters but I can say this is not the first time it has happened. History is full of periods where there has been a split in public opinion leading to civil violence on a massive scale. A common thread is that one side at least refuses to compromise. That’s where we are with the left in the West. The current rise in nationalism is the result. Wether that is good or bas only time will tell. I’m almost certain of one thing; a major clash between the left and the nationalists is inevitable. There is a slight chance it won’t be violent as was the case for the velvet revolution in Czechoslovakia but I doubt it.

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        beowulf

        The young can’t see the truth staring them in the face. Scary stuff. A generation brainwashed with red education from kindy to uni. Check out the youth-vote map.
        https://www.breitbart.com/europe/2019/12/15/if-boris-doesnt-tackle-red-academe-conservatism-is-toast/

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          PeterS

          Not just the young. Many older so called grown ups are pushing the leftist garbage and CAGW agenda. Certainly some of them are using the young as the “foot soldiers” but most are just as loopy as the young. Young and old are being brainwashed. Lack of critical thinking skills, stubbornness, arrogance, stupidity are some of the reasons why they are so convinced.

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    Maptram

    As we know carnivores eat meat, herbivores eat plants and omnivores eat a mixture of both. Herbivores spend a lot of time grazing while carnivores spend less time eating. Herbivores emit a lot of waste and we are told that at least some of them emit methane which is a contributor to climate change. So we must stop eating meat and become vegans. But how do we know that vegans are different to other herbivores, in their eating habits and their emissions?

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      Kneel

      Yeah – plus protein and fat suppress appetite. Easy to check – eat rice bubbles for breakfast one day and compare to eggs for breakfast the next. After the eggs, you won’t be hungry for a lot longer, even though the volume of the rice bubbles is much bigger.

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    Mick

    “The Global temperature has risen by only 1 degree Celsius in the last 300 years and we’re acting as though it’s an emergency. People are passing emergency climate resolutions. It is the most gratuitous virtue signalling that could possibly exist.” Dr. Patrick Moore, Ph.D. in Ecology, co-founder of Greenpeace, internationally renowned ecologist and environmentalist.

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    Peter Fitzroy

    So one of the tenets of this blog is personal freedom, that is correct is it not?
    One of the tenants of research is academic freedom

    So why are you so prescriptive about what research can and can not be about?
    You should be supportive, if consistency was your goal

    Anyone looking at the comments here would think that we were back in the 1930′s

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      Kalm Keith

      SRI 1930a.

      Nobody should do research while on a “high”.

      Surely we learnt something from Timothy Learey and his “research” quest for the ultimate rainbow.

      WKK

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      Bill In Oz

      This woman can ‘research’ all she likes Fitz.
      After all soemof us here are very devoted to ‘researching” the fairies in the bottom of our gardens..
      :-)

      But……
      1: Why should the public purse pay for such rubbish research ?
      2: Why should any one else ( like the ABC ) be promoting such rubbish research ?
      I’ll be frank. This is not research. It is feminist hysteria with a BS political agenda..

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        Peter Fitzroy

        I don’t know Bill.
        (1) If you know the answer to the question, then there is no need for research, clearly, in this case, research was sanctioned by the institution, ergo, the answer was not known.
        (2) if you want rubbish – https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sunday_Sport#/media/File:Sunday_Sport.jpg

        I’ll be frank. You can not direct research by banning topics – this is what academic freedom is all about.

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          AndyG55

          “if you want rubbish”

          Read a PF post !!

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          AndyG55

          It comes down to what is actually “fit” for university funding

          This garbage most definitely isn’t.

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          MudCrab

          Fine, Frank, allow me to explain a few things.

          What you need to understand is the relationship between having ‘Freedom’ and having ‘Responsibility’.

          For example I might claim it is my right within freedom to say that Peter Fitzroy is a moronic stain of non self aware gristle wrapped around the road wheel of progress. Not sure if you ever met Peter, Frank. He was a bit of a wally to be honest. Couldn’t hold an argument to save his life and his only friends were straw men. You wouldn’t have liked him.

          So I COULD say these things and I COULD hide behind Freedom of Speech to justify my right to say them.

          However, if I had said such things I would then be responsible for them. Pay attention here Frank, this is the bit Peter refuses to get. You are free to do anything, but you are also responsible for your actions. Being responsible for your actions is what makes you an adult. You are not only expects to grow a pair and not hide behind Mummy, but you are also expected to understand the rules – both formal and unwritten – of the society you live in.

          So, I COULD have said all those things about Peter, but I would also have to take full ownership of the statement. Be placing myself in public I would be allowing the same public to respond. And if the same public were to come out and say, “Holy Ham and Cheese, MudCrab! That was completely out of line! What on earth made you say such a thing? Seriously dude, you are out of line and we are not going to invite you to hang out with the cool kids anymore.”

          If this happened I would not be able to simply say “But Freedom of Speech!” because FoS does NOT make you immune to responsibilities. I said the words. I would have to own them.

          Also, Frank, you seem to know a lot of Sunday Sport. I would ask why but are fearful you would use Page Three in your answer.

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            Peter Fitzroy

            Load of self serving garbage. No constitutional device says such.

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              AndyG55

              There’s that self titling of your posts again.

              You have made it blatantly clear that you are totally clueless about “responsibility”.

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              Lionell Griffith

              Are you not responsible for what you say? Do you not stand behind what you say? Perhaps you don’t mean what you say and don’t say what you mean. If so, when you say something, what is it that you really mean?

              All we have to work with is what you say. Thus all we can do is presume you really do mean what you say and react accordingly or ignore what you say as if it were meaningless noise “full of sound and fury but signifying nothing”.

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          el gordo

          ‘ … this is what academic freedom is all about.’

          Grants are weighted on the basis of political correctness, previous unknowns find clarity but its worth is negligible.

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          Fred Streeter

          Women and Wars: Contested Histories, Uncertain Futures – Carol Cohn

          “As the pages of this book tell, though, those accounts are far from complete, women can be found at every turn in the (gendered) phenomena of war.

          Women experience war in multiple ways: as soldiers, as fighters, as civilians, as caregivers, as sex workers, as sexual slaves, refugees and internally displaced persons, as anti-war activists, as community peace-builders, and more.”

          Wow! What a revelation!

          Megan has read it: “The book provides a comprehensive picture of the current scholarship on women and war, as well as detailed and disturbing accounts of the lives of women during and after many recent wars.

          It would be an ideal text for a variety of courses on international and human security.”

          So, the ‘answer’ has been known for decades. All Megan will do is apply her spin to history and current affairs. And regurgitate it.

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      OriginalSteve

      “Anyone looking at the comments here would think that we were back in the 1930′s”

      Actually, when you look at a lot of the tripe pedalled by the Left, including references to locking up sceptics or “putting leaders against a wall” or calling for sceptics to be executed or jailed, I’d be more worrid about the Left.

      The Left also applys the standard leftist tactic of accusing sceptics of what the Left is actually doing, as away of deflecting criticism, as per the Saul Alynski play book “rules for Radicals”.

      QED

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        Another Ian

        “as per the Saul Alynski play book “rules for Radicals”.”

        Remember that Trump has re-written that as “Rules for Republicans”

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      AndyG55

      Yes, they are totally free to make an absolute goose of themselves..

      As you continue to do.

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      Peter Fitzroy mentions this:

      So why are you so prescriptive about what research can and can not be about?
      You should be supportive, if consistency was your goal

      I suppose what you really mean Fitzroy, is …. research that YOU approve of.

      Surely, what I do is research. Twelve years of it now in fact.

      And for the last four years, collecting, detailing, recording, analysing, unpacking, and commenting about real data on all forms of power generation, wind power and solar power foremost among that.

      And at every stage, you have actively sought to complain about it, ignore it, denigrate it, and call me a li@r at every comment you make about it.

      I would have thought that (going by your comment) you would have appreciated it, encouraged it, been thankful for it, and supported it.

      When you’re out with your ‘vast’ circle of friends and colleagues, you could actually say that you are acquainted with someone who does extensive research related to climate change, and there would be the added bonus, that you could tell all your friends that I do it for no cost to the taxpayer, a true case of altruism.

      But sadly, it seems that this is research that you don’t agree with.

      Either way, it is still research eh!

      Tony.

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        AndyG55

        The point is that the sort of nonsense that is the topic of this thread, is purely a social construct from a warped mind..

        It is not research, it is fabrication…

        and has no academic worth whatsoever.

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        Peter Fitzroy

        Why would I care?
        All I’m saying, and I’ll repeat it in the hope that you might understand.

        If you value personal freedom, then it follows that academic freedom must also be valued.

        Do you understand, TonyfromOz, and AndyG55, it is not what is researched, but there is a freedom to pursue whatever you want.

        To have the opposite – where only ‘approved’ research is allowed, has never ever worked.

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          AndyG55

          But this is not academic in any sense of the word.

          Should be at some socialist cult academy.

          Go back to your Mills and Boon !

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          AndyG55

          “but there is a freedom to pursue whatever you want.”

          But not on the taxpayer teat,

          while making a totally negative contribution to society that ends up paying for this sort of non-academic gobbeldy-goop.

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          AndyG55

          I really don’t think you have a clue what freedom is,

          and certainly not the responsibility that goes with it.

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          OriginalSteve

          Patricia, no one has said the author cant pursue her line of study. I’m all for academic freedom in all circumstances ( as long as its not nasty stuff that there are laws against ).

          What most people have said is that its a dumb thing to study, and seem to indicate its a massive waste of time, and taxpayer funds.

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        Peter Fitzroy

        cut and paste is not research is it?

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          AndyG55

          You have never done any intellectual work in your life, Have you !

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          AndyG55

          “cut and paste is not research is it?”

          Yet seemingly all you are capable of.

          What Tony does is far beyond cut and paste,

          … hence, far beyond your comprehension.

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          cut and paste is not research is it?

          Hmm, Fitzroy, might you expand a little on this, as to who you might be referring to.

          Tony.

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            Peter Fitzroy

            Tony, where is the original bit in your website? Research tends to want originality

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              Kalm Keith

              What?

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              AndyG55

              Come on, show us where someone else has calculated all the things that appears on Tony’s web pages.

              You certainly haven’t.

              So you have nothing of any importance at all to offer.

              And you never will have.

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              Lionell Griffith

              Research want’s nothing. It is not an animate sentient thing, it is a process. It is the people who do research and the people who value and use the research and those who criticize the research who want.

              Some people want research to reveal the truth. Others want research to hide the truth. Still others simply want other people’s money that often is associated with research. Research, good or bad, valid or invalid, is simply research.

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            robert rosicka

            Tonyfromoz you are targeted by Poiter for your much appreciated work on power generation and how it puts a spotlight on unreliable intermittent energy boondoggles .
            The hard left cannot stand any dissent or information that is contrary to the ideology they are wedded to .

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          Kalm Keith

          Who said he was incapable of introspection.

          KK

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      PeterW

      As usual, Fitz misrepresents the case.

      You have the Right to research whatever the hell you want . (Providing your methodology does not break the law).

      You have the Right to ASK others to fund your research.

      You do NOT have the Right to be funded by non-consenting taxpayers.

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        Peter Fitzroy

        we have no ‘rights’ as you put it. Are you expecting to contacted on every proposal? By what criteria would you be considered expert in any field?

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          PeterW

          Fitz
          “No Rights” is the classic response of the Fascist/Communist. All authority belongs to Government. You can’t help revealing yourself.

          I am THE expert on what I am prepared to fund, and as a citizen in a Constitutional Democracy, I expect my elected representatives to represent the majority in this matter, too.

          The justification for public funded education is that it benefits the nation in general. There is no good argument that funding a Professorial position in a non-productive field of this nature meets that criteria.

          As I said, she is entitled to raise funds from whoever supports her. THAT is academic freedom, not free access to the taxpayers’s wallets while giving nothing of benefit in return.

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            Peter Fitzroy

            how do you know what is ‘non productive’ beforehand. All you are saying only approved research is allowed. TO you last paragraph, she did exactly what you suggest she should do.

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              AndyG55

              Please tell everyone that you really do believe that this paper has any academic worth whatsoever.

              That would expose you totally. :-)

              Not that that is needed. ;-)

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              PeterW

              Fitz has no idea how dumb the history of those ideas has shown them to be…… but then he’s not in the habit of thinking critically.

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              Lionell Griffith

              He has the right to VOLUNTARILY support the research or to refuse to support the research. The researcher does not have the right to force others to support his efforts even if it is the most valuable and productive research ever done. Those who value the research can support it. Those who don’t, no matter how wrong they are, should not be forced by anyone to support the research.

              It’s called freedom of choice and association that issues from the fact that it is the chooser’s life that he and only he owns that is involved. If the chooser does not own his life, how can the researcher own it while also not owning his own life? He cannot. How can any number of individuals who don’t own their own lives, own the life of another? They cannot.

              You have a choice. Either respect the rights of others or demand that might makes right. If it is might makes right, watch out? Those who object to your demand can and have used might against you and eventually you will lose. See the 20th century for instructive detail.

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      David-of-Cooyal-in-Oz

      Perhaps you could support my research by answering the questions I put to you in MWU, at
      http://joannenova.com.au/2019/12/midweek-unthreaded-107/#comment-2239675
      I’d appreciate that.
      Dave B

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        Peter Fitzroy

        The fire there breaks out at a new location every few days, there is a crew there most days (being near the airport is the main issue here), usually a chopper flies up and dumbs a couple of loads.

        As to the firebombs comment. 70% of all fires are started on private land.

        https://aic.gov.au/sites/default/files/publications/tbp/downloads/tbp027_02_nsw.pdf

        Both State Forests, and NPWS have been flat chat on hazard reduction since May.

        My main point was that around here, the crews are tired, their pagers are going off almost every day, and each brigade truck is out every day – and the lack of compassion to their sacrifice is what I’m on about.

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          AndyG55

          “70% of all fires are started on private land. ”

          Again with the Urban counting dis-information.

          What proportion of what has been burnt is State Forest and National Parks?

          Loaded up with huge fuel-loads because of lock-up and neglect agendas of the far-left..

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            Peter Fitzroy

            are you saying that State Forests and NSWPS should be suing private land owners, as the fires that caused the destruction mostly came from private land?

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              AndyG55

              Still trying to twist and turn

              These fires didn’t come from the urban metropolitan area

              Your deliberate lack of comprehension is yet again shown to the world.

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          AndyG55

          “and the lack of compassion to their sacrifice “

          Is what you have. You demean them with your every comment.

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            PeterW

            What a hypocrite Fitz is to be sure..

            Faux-compassion why furiously denying the very things that we are want – less fuel, better access and less reliance by NPWS on our free labour to deal with their negligence.

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              Peter Fitzroy

              Fuel is one thing – Temperature is another, water (as in soil moisture) is another. Are you going to demand that the temperature is lowered in summer? are you going to demand that it rains.

              As I said – most of the fires are on private property – are you going to sue them?

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                AndyG55

                You know that is an urban count

                You know small fires on farms are quickly distinguished, unless they get into one of the uncared for “greenie” areas.

                Stop your deliberate mis-information

                What percentage of the areas burnt were State Forest and National Parks, ??

                That where the real conflagrations were,

                Locked-up and neglected, allowed to build horrendous uncontrollable fire loads.

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                AndyG55

                “Are you going to demand that the temperature is lowered in summer? are you going to demand that it rains. “

                You and your ilk are the ones that seem to think you can control natural variability by not releasing much needed CO2.

                Drought caused by cool water above and below Australia.

                Winds and hot/cold pattern formed by wavy jet stream, due to low solar activity

                Absolutely noting to do with any human controlled global weather at all.

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                Bill In Oz

                Andy, do you have a link to that chart showing cool water all around Australia ?

                I know it was posted before but lets see it again!

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                PeterW

                Don’t lie, Fitz.

                Fuel management and access are what we – firefighters – want because those are the things that we CAN control.

                No amount of magic windmills will make the rain fall, stop the wind blowing or cool the summer.

                But you don’t listen.

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                beowulf

                Bill
                ENSO (in the Pacific) is in neutral territory ATM, so watch the Indian for signs of change. The GIF Andy has linked to is different to some others showing SSTs around Oz. All show quite cool water for many months both sides of Oz. Lately some show more warming especially off WA. Remember that most of these graphs and GIFs are dealing in SST anomalies.

                Try these too for a fuller picture. The Canadian version shows the most warming off central WA.
                https://weather.gc.ca/saisons/animation_e.html?id=year&bc=sea
                https://www.tropicaltidbits.com/analysis/ocean/

                If you look at Tropical Tidbits, the first graphic is absolute SSTs (not anomalies) which is now showing very warm water in the western Pacific and the eastern Indian, south of Indonesia. That is good news. Finally the IOD is turning. As ENSO is neutral it is the Indian Ocean that will hopefully bring us relief with some rain from the NW if it gets its act together.

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                Graeme#4

                Andy and Bill: There isn’t that much cool water this year around Aust. Look at that very warm finger of water poking right at Perth – it’s been growing in size and changing colour to a deeper red recently. Last few years it’s been a finger of cool water, but not this year.

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          Deplorable Lord Kek

          ” 70% of all fires are started on private land”

          Couldn’t be anything to do with the ‘greenie’ carbon sink laws that prevent land clearing.

          Oh, wait.

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            PeterW

            70% of land in NSW is farm land.

            Given that we have far more man-made sources of ignition, private land seems under-represented.

            Plus the big fires that eat a lot of houses…. tend to come out of the bush. Guess who manages most of that?

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            PeterW

            70% of land in NSW is farm land.

            Given that we have far more man-made sources of ignition, private land seems under-represented.

            Plus the big fires that eat a lot of houses…. tend to come out of the bush. Guess who manages most of that?

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          Dave

          Peter.

          That was the number of fires!

          But total areas burned was 75% in State Forests!

          The report clearly states that!

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            Dave

            Peter,

            Plus over 90% of OUT OF CONTROL fires are in National Parks or State Forests!

            They are letting them burn!

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              AndyG55

              “They are letting them burn!”

              They don’t have any choice..

              … with those huge fuel loads, and the windy conditions, they have no chance at all.

              All they can do is hope like crazy that they can protect homes as the fires come roaring towards urban areas.

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              Peter Fitzroy

              Rubbish, u did not read the link now did you

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            Dave

            Peter!
            It is you who have not read the link you posted!

            1. “But total areas burned was 75% in State Forests!”

            It’s Figure 42 page 39.

            I would suggest you read your own link 1st before telling little fibbies Peter!

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    pat

    15 Dec: Forbes: Failure In Madrid As COP25 Climate Summit Ends In Disarray
    by Dave Keating
    (Dave Keating is based in Brussels, where he has been covering EU politics and policy for 13 years)
    Negotiations at a U.N. climate summit in Madrid broke down today as the two-week meeting ended without a crucial agreement on the global carbon market rules of the Paris Agreement.
    After extending the two-week summit for an additional two days, the world’s countries agreed a text with vague pledges to enhance their Paris emissions reductions targets. But the watered-down text reflects a failure to agree on the key outcomes that were needed at the summit: setting a rulebook for the Paris Agreement and designing a global carbon market.

    “Once again, no progress has been made to bring countries more in line with the 1.5 degrees target of the Paris Agreement,” said Bas Eickhout, a Dutch member of the European Parliament…“Very strict rules are an absolute necessity and old untrustworthy CO2-credits have to be scrapped. That has not happened in Madrid, the summit ended without a deal.”…

    “It is a good thing that the EU has not agreed to a bad deal,” said Eickhout. “Brazil and Australia are among the major obstructors. This cannot go without consequences for the EU’s negotiations with both countries on new trade agreements.”
    Time is now running out before the global carbon mechanism is due to take effect in 2021…

    But the EU has also been riddled with divisions on the climate question. Polish Prime Minister Mateusz Morawiecki refused to endorse the target, forcing the European Council to adopt an “all but one” text…
    European delegates at the COP25 summit in Madrid said the fight with Poland, Hungary and Czechia in Brussels had distracted the Europeans and kept them from successfully playing their usual role as trusted broker at U.N. climate talks…
    https://www.forbes.com/sites/davekeating/2019/12/15/failure-in-madrid-as-cop25-climate-summit-ends-in-disarray/

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    pat

    15 Dec: BBC: COP25 Climate change talks: ‘We’ve lost an important opportunity’
    PIC: The longest UN Climate Change Conference ended on Sunday
    Here are key quotes from leaders, experts and activists on the UN Climate Change Conference (COP25) outcome.

    Antonio Guterres, UN secretary general
    “I am disappointed with the results of COP25. The international community lost an important opportunity to show increased ambition on mitigation, adaptation and finance to tackle the climate crisis.” …

    Jair Bolsonaro, president of Brazil
    “I’d like to know: has there been a resolution for Europe to be reforested, or are they just going to keep bothering Brazil?”…

    Ian Fry (ANU), Tuvalu representative
    “There are millions of people all around the world who are already suffering from the impacts of climate change. Denying this fact could be interpreted by some to be a crime against humanity.”…

    Sir David King, British government representative at the 2015 Paris climate talks
    “If the United States is not backing an agreement that is meaningful it is extraordinarily difficult for the rest of the world to come to an agreement. And I’m afraid as long as we have [President Donald] Trump in the United States with President [Jair] Bolsonaro in Brazil it is extraordinarily difficult to get all of those countries to agree.”

    Li Shuo, Greenpeace East Asia policy adviser
    “COP25 demonstrated the collective ambition fatigue of the world’s largest [greenhouse gas] emitters.”…

    ENDS WITH TWO FROM THE “YOUTH”
    https://www.bbc.com/news/science-environment-50801493

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    David Maddison

    The UN is promoting the eating of insects (by we Deplorables) to solve a non-existent food and climate crisis. You can be assured the Leftist Elites won’t be. Paul Joseph Watson comments.

    https://youtu.be/TjsPpRZVrzQ

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    pat

    theirABC carries on with the advocates. youth/business want action.

    AUDIO: 11m4s: 16 Dec: ABC Breakfast: UN COP25 climate summit in Madrid finally ends in compromise deal
    Guest: David Waskow, director, International Climate Initiative, World Resources Initiative (EX-OXFAM 2007-2013)
    https://www.abc.net.au/radionational/programs/breakfast/cop25-climate-summit-in-madrid-finally-ends-in-compromise-deal/11801816

    AUDIO: 10m9s: 16 Dec: ABC Breakfast: COP25: Australia cops criticism for carry-over emissions credits
    Guest: John Connor, chief executive, Carbon Markets Institute
    https://www.abc.net.au/radionational/programs/breakfast/cop25:-australia-cops-criticism-for-carry-over-emissions-credits/11801950

    ABC audience might have benefitted from more info on Connor:

    LinkedIn: John Connor, CEO at The Carbon Market Institute – May 2019 – Present
    Executive Director, COP23 Presidency Secretariat, Apr 2017 – May 2019·
    As part of Baker McKenzie Team on retainer with the Fijian Government, I was their Suva based representative heading up the Secretariat assisting the Fijian Government’s COP23 Presidency of the UNFCCC (climate) negotiations and action agenda…

    CEO, The Climate Institute
    Feb 2007 – Apr 2017

    Campaigns Manager, World Vision Australia
    2005 – 2006

    Campaigns Director
    Australian Conservation Foundation
    1999 – 2005
    https://au.linkedin.com/in/john-connor-81356054

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    pat

    for the laughs.

    Nine Digital-owned Pedestrian TV:

    16 Dec: PedestrianTV: Australia Slammed For Trying To Undermine A Huge Emissions Reduction Agreement
    By David Adams
    Instead of locking in new plans, world leaders will reconvene next year in Glasgow to hash out the issue. Not exactly a fitting response to a problem which needs action right bloody now…
    Multiple factors led to the crap result.

    The draft agreement put forward by Chile, which convened the talks, was criticised for being too lax on rich nations like the United States (which has already pulled out of the 2015 Paris Agreement), Russia, India, China, and Australia…
    Canadian outlet The National Observer reports Grenadian minister Simon Stiell “put blame for COP’s failure squarely on the United States, Brazil and Australia”…

    ABC reports that Mohamed Adow, director of advocacy group Power Shift Africa, directly fired at Australia for its lacklustre goals…
    On Friday, Carlos Manuel Rodríguez, Costa Rica’s minister for energy and environment also blamed “Australia, Brazil and the US” for pushing resolutions which were “totally unacceptable”.
    Outside of the public sphere, Aussie billionaire and climate advocate Michael Cannon-Brookes also had a spray about the outcome.
    TWEET Cannon-Brookes…

    Good times to be alive, folks.
    https://www.pedestrian.tv/news/australia-cop25-resolution-climate/

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      OriginalSteve

      “Australia slammed For Trying To Undermine A Huge Lie of massive proportions which kills economies”

      There…fixed it for you….

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      yarpos

      Love Cannon Brookes’s mentality. Made a bit of money in IT, and now a climate and eveything else expert.

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    Kim

    Soi Boys – lefty boys heading to the sois.

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    robert rosicka

    OT but another Democrat is reported to have jumped ship , true or not we will have to wait and see but one thing is for sure these rumours can’t hurt the Republican movement.
    But will start to fracture the morale of the Dems.

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    Maptram

    Greta about travelling on trains

    https://au.yahoo.com/news/greta-thunberg-online-spat-deutsche-bahn-over-no-seat-train-223041548.html

    One of her comments was “Overcrowded trains is a great sign because it means the demand for train travel is high!” Which means she, or her handlers, doesn’t understand supply & demand. Trains can also be crowded because supply is low.

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      Dennis

      The train operators are not happy, they said Greta had a first class ticket and was looked after by the train crew.

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    OriginalSteve

    Is the ABC pulling its head in now?

    https://www.abc.net.au/news/2019-12-16/dire-predictions-for-future-kimberley-heatwaves-climate-change/11793470


    “Climate scientists have cautioned against “crying wolf”
    on the unfolding impacts of climate change, as new research suggests a dramatic upswing in heatwaves across northern Australia.

    “Released by think tank The Australia Institute this week, the Kimberley HeatWatch report pointed to an unprecedented rise in hot weather across the West Australia’s Kimberley by the end of the century.

    “The paper, commissioned by local conservation group Environs Kimberley, suggested that without adequate policies to reduce global temperatures, the number of “extreme heat days” where temperatures reach 35 degrees Celsius and over would increase dramatically each year.

    “”Extreme heat days in Broome are projected to increase from an average of 81 days above 35 degrees, to up to 195 days by 2050 and potentially up to 286 days by 2090,” the report said.

    ….But….

    “Report’s forecasting questioned

    “The report’s catastrophic forecasts have been difficult to independently verify.
    Curtin University climate scientist and Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change contributor, Peter Newman, said this was particularly clear at the more extreme end.

    “”I don’t know they could claim there is a real basis for what they’re saying,” Professor Newman said.

    “”Other than that it is getting hotter; but that much hotter? I’m not so sure.”

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      Kim

      Down in SW WA our temperatures in the last couple of years have been down 1.9°C. This last autumn, winter and early spring was lovely (a welcome change from the storms of the last few years). We had a wintry late spring. Currently we are into the heatwaves along with periods of rain and cool and with an elevated level of humidity. The climate is actually approaching normal.

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    WXcycles

    An anecdote about radical feminism:

    I had this girlfriend that was studying feminism and psychology. I was not a uni student at the time, I’d been in a touring rock band so had no idea what when on in universities at this point, it just seemed a weird combination of subjects to be studying. So I innocently asked why she was studying these subjects and she told me she wanted to be independent, not relying on anyone (a man).

    So I asked what sort of career she was interested in, was it psychology? She said no. So I stupidly (but correctly) said how can you get a career as a feminist though? I was young, this was before my brain started to work. She took it well and just glared at me. I simply didn’t realize that I’m this babe in the woods and have stumbled into a field of land mines and taken ‘shelter’ within a den of a Lioness.

    Anyway, I figure out all is not quite as it seems with my new girlfriend. She’s about 5 years older than me. She got pregnant at age 16, married, and was divorced by 17. She had an adorable 8-year old daughter. As it turned out she was a Christian fundamentalist (Morman), right up to the point at which I met her. Whereupon she immediately left the church. The men in the Mormon church are a particular bunch of smiling happy super misogynist horses-asses. They’re all brainwashed that they’re special proto-gods in the making, as holders of the “Priesthood”. While the females are the baby-making machines, house-makers and proto-Godesses in the making. Which is all fine, providing it all goes to plan, but is a bit dippy psychologically.

    To top it off, when a little girl my girlfriend’s mother had formerly been a prostitute. She did this to pay the bills and raise and provide for my girlfriend, via going to the pub every night and bringing home some stranger to have sex with her, if the same room as my girlfriend slept with her alcoholic single-mother.

    So my girlfriend understandably reacted to this degenerate immorality with pure child-like disgust and turned into a hard-core prude – the inner conflict had begun. So when old enough she joins the Mormons to become as pure and God-like as possible (more guilt and inner-conflict heaped up) so she will never be anything like her mother was. She’s rejected her form of feminine professional existence and independence and all that her mother represented.

    However, she finds she’s also got a similar level of elevated libido as her mother had, thus another huge injection of guilt and inner-conflict.

    So despite all the moral unction and the urge to ‘perfect’ behavior she gets pregnant soon after she turns 16 and marries the guy, but drives him crazy with her behavior and demands, so he leaves her soon after they marry, and immediately divorces her. She’s a very good looking girl, and despite the sex she’s already become fairly bitter and nuts. So the benefits weren’t worth the mental anguish which she inflicted on both him and her.

    Anyway, in subsequent years she gets judged harshly by the males in the church but her elevated libido won’t leave her alone. So she’s full of guilt and inner-conflict and quietly hates the males within the church. But she also wants to get herself a man to boff his brains out. And she’s reached her ‘sexual-peak’ just as I meet her, in her mid-20s. She simultaneously hates men but absolutely needs a man, but is thoroughly ashamed of herself, full of guilt and inner-conflict, plus needs to relieve herself.

    On top of this the Mormon church is (bizarrely) a popular place for females as there are a lot more eligible females than eligible males. Yes, the females actually really liked being protected, dominated and subservient to their men. They joined the church in numbers and stayed in it in order to procure such a God-like misogynist who could provide for their daily physical and sexual needs. Apparently it was rather agreeable to them.

    So the females in the church were all dying to get laid (i.e. married) and there was a fierce and constant competition for the available men. And apparently my girlfriend’s feelings of anger and inner-conflict plus a prior divorce and daughter meant she lost-out in this fem-war, despite her good looks and hot body. So in her mind the men were not worthy of her and she was full of resentment about it. But it has also taught her to distrust all females, wherever a man was involved. And this turned her thoroughly paranoid and jealous of any woman that came near me or even just glanced at me. She was hyper vigilant and suspicious that I would ditch her for a greener pasture.

    To complicate the situation further she had not told me she’d been in the Morman church for the past decade. She really did not want me to know this as it might turn me off her. So I’m oblivious to all of this for about the first 2-months we’re together. She’s play-acting a role as the purest-driven snow of a moral and lovely sexy Mormon-wifey type, without me knowing this is what is going on. I just think she’s a really great girlfriend, even her daughter was the loveliest little girl you’d ever meet.

    But what I didn’t know as yet is that my girlfriend also had a female friend from the church, another sex-mad outcast who had decided to leave the church about 18 months prior. She did so specifically so that she could have as much sex as possible with her boyfriend. And she told my new girlfriend this, and that she thoroughly loved it, and was never going back to the church. So she has this floating about in her head just before she meets me. And she hates all of the men in the church but she can’t actually tell them to get stuffed without God (who is another male misogynist) becoming quite grumpy with her. So she bottles it up.

    So I come back from touring around with a rock band as a lead guitarist, and am staying temporarily with a good female friend of mine for many years (a vocalist), who lives next door to my new girlfriend-to-be.

    I’m standing at the front door looking out on the street and I spot this mind-blowing gorgeous hot divinely shaped blonde wheeling out a bike, she straddles it (with her back turned from me for the perfect angle), and goes for a ride. So I go back inside and with a huge smile on my face I say to my female friend, “Who’s the gorgeous blonde next door?”

    So she gives me a huge return smile and says, “I’ll introduce you!” So I’m very happy with this, but when my friend then walked out the door to talk to this spunky looking girl, she turns right instead of left … huh? So I’m thinking where’s she going? And a minute later she returns with a totally different but still incredibly gorgeous hot blonde. And I’m like this stunned mullet, so I’m like, “Nice to meet you”, etc., as you do, and she’s been (mistakenly) gee’d up about how much I’m attracted to her. So this is like a dream come true for my soon to be girlfriend.

    I’m left with a call for pragmatism at this point, and accept that she’s not the smoking-hot blonde I was after, but hey I’m rolling with the punches, she’s still a smoking hot blonde. No complaints. So she leaves after about a stunned minute, and my friend comes back in after a bit more of a chat with her, and is grinning like a Cheshire cat. She says, “Don’t ever tell me I don’t do things for you!”

    So I then say, “But … it’s the wrong blonde!”

    “What?” …

    “She’s the wrong blonde! The blonde I was after lives in that house, on the left.”

    My friend assures me there’s no blonde living in there. So I’m quite disappointed at that news, as she was really and increbible blonde. And my friend (also a Scandinavian platinum blonde) is now getting a bit miffed about this mix-up between blondes. So I decide the other blonde is fine, and will do, thank you for everything, and I’ll go with that blonde instead,

    As you do.

    So that’s how I met her.

    She’s decided instantly that I’m her meat and she pursues me with gusto from there. And of course I find her attractive and she’s acting like a perfect sexy and proper Morman prude who lives next door, but minus the prudishness, quite the opposite. And that was the situation I got cornered into, without even trying.

    After two months I walked into my new girlfriend’s front door. There were two pushbikes leaning up against the entryway and when I walk in there are these to smiling and curvy young ladies, with name-tags pinned on them. I meet them, smiling, cool as a cucumber, not having a clue who they are. And they almost immediately say they need to hit the road so they mount up and ride off on their bikes, smiling and waving as they go.

    My girlfriend immediately makes herself scarce, and very, very busy. So I corner her in the kitchen and ask her who they heck those girls were? She says “sisters”.

    Those are your sisters!?

    No, they are ‘The Sisters’.

    The Sisters? … The Sisters of what?

    The Sisters from my Church.

    *shock*

    You’re in a church?? Nods /red-as-a-beetroot

    What Church?! … etc.

    Thus I find out my girlfriend is a very recently lapsed Morman and ‘the sisters’ are missionaries sent to figure out what is going on. And the what was going on had just walked in the front door. After that her whole facade began to fall away and I discovered (to my great surprise) that she was actually quite a bit crazy. Hence why she was studying psychology, along with the feminism.

    So after a 3 more months of increasing levels of crazy and much anger at men, with mountains of guilt and inner moral, religious and ideological conflicts, plus extreme paranoia and jealousy about every woman who came near me, or even looked at me, I realize the situation is lost. So made the decision and rapidly decamped and fled to get away from this crazy, angry, violent and deeply conflicted sex-crazed jealous paranoid woman, who had become physically dangerous.

    In the years after that she dressed in what only can be called tents pretending to be dresses and completely let herself go. She dyed her hair bright fiery red and permed it in tight curls and acted permanently bitter and angry, and continued with the radical feminism studies.

    I dislike the things feminists say and write. I detest their crazy thinking and hatred of men. And I would say most normal females (like my normal strong female friend – who detested feminists) would not fall into that way of thinking. It seems to require an underlying level of deep internal conflict and disturbance, institutional abuses from males, sexual frustration and high and unrealistic puritanical expectations, which leads to chronic mental-illness which is exhibited as unbalanced feminist sentiment and behavior. A super aggressive female version of misogyny.

    I also now understand how our society and circumstances can occasionally produce such radical feminists. I saw it happen. It was so horrible. And I’m very clear that studying radical-feminism academically was not what my girlfriend needed, and should not have been what she was doing. That’s a poisonous agenda, its not just a pure academic study, it’s dangerous, it’s very harmful to the mental health of vulnerable females, and it sure shouldn’t be funded by pubic money within Australian universities.

    There are probably many paths which lead to radical feminism developing but which share a similar level of misery and deep unhappiness, and what I’m quite sure of, is that feminism does not lead to liberation of females and is not beneficial to them in any way. It leads to permanent damage of some very beautiful young ladies and radical-feminism is in fact a real and deeply destructive form of institutionalized abuse of female minds, and should not be taught as an academic field of inquiry.

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      PeterW

      I don’t doubt a word of it…

      Other than that Mormans ain’t Christian. The they are a cult that borrows some of their ideology from Christianity, but leave out some of the more important doctrine.

      Trace the doctrine that we are all have an equal intrinsic value back to its roots, and you will find it in the words of Christ and the Apostles.

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      Chad

      I assume that is a “cur/paste” job from some wacko site.
      Sorry if not so, but either way that has just wasted 10 min of my life that i could have spent doing nothing instead !

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        WXcycles

        Oh, boo-hoo, poor little you. If you think it’s a cut and paste do a search for it and prove it. It’s a true story, I wrote it.

        [And it's on topic. Chad, not helpful. - Jo]

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    OriginalSteve

    I find the idea that “80%” ( which is down from the mythical 97% ) want politics to take any form of climate action, highly questionable.

    Its also interesting as it identifies the hidden persuaders inside the liberal space

    https://www.smh.com.au/national/coalition-s-climate-warriors-party-insiders-work-to-sway-mps-to-take-action-20191212-p53jkg.html

    “Australian politics has been standing at a smoky crossroad on climate change for far too long.

    “Domestically, the lack of political will to deal with the effects of climate change pose a clear and present danger as we see Sydney shrouded in smoke.

    “Internationally, Australia ranked worst out of 57 countries on climate change policy, according to the 2020 Climate Change Performance Index, and Australia is the 14th largest emitter of 196 parties in the Paris Agreement, a record of which no Australian can be proud.

    Recent research by the ABC found more than 80 per cent of Australians wanted the government to take more action on climate change, including 60 per cent of Coalition voters. I have seen this first-hand as the chair of Coalition for Conservation – C4C – a fast-growing movement of mainstream Coalition members who support greater action to address climate change and other environmental challenges.

    “We work closely with the Liberal and National parties, engaging, persuading and shifting the conservative side of politics to move forward with positive action. Some of our ambassadors are former NSW premier and current Liberal Party president Nick Greiner, former federal Liberal environment minister Robert Hill, and former Liberal immigration minister Philip Ruddock. We have gained momentum since the federal election in May, with hundreds of new supporters joining to be part of a more constructive conversation within our Liberal and National parties.

    “About 200 years ago Edmund Burke cautioned against giving into political apathy. “The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing.”

    “Fortunately, the political cycle of apathy has been broken by the NSW government under the leadership of its Environment Minister Matt Kean, who has acknowledged the well-established science linking climate change to worsening fire conditions. Like Kean, a large portion of Coalition politicians understand the climate science and its implications, so the news that NSW will adopt more ambitious emission-reduction targets was probably less of a surprise for Coalition members than many other Australians.

    “The challenge we are posed with is how to shift those Coalition members who are held back by vocal, organised elements who oppose real action to reduce emissions. The argument should lie on the economic benefits of an orderly transition from fossil fuels to renewables, in line with Kean’s plans. His revised goal of lowering greenhouse gases by 35 per cent by 2030 puts NSW ahead of Labor-led Queensland, and on track to achieve net zero by 2050.

    “The announcement also signals the state government’s increasing awareness of the opportunity to create new jobs and more economic growth in the low-carbon industries that economists point to as the basis of our future prosperity.

    “Last week I spoke at the Smart Energy Summit at the Hilton Hotel. Other speakers included software entrepreneur Mike Cannon-Brookes and former prime minister Malcolm Turnbull. The room was packed with representatives from the world of business and finance who were there to discuss the huge growth in clean energy industries and the vast economic opportunity facing Australia if we get the right policy settings in place, as it is now significantly cheaper to build new renewable energy than any other form of energy generation.

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      PeterPetrum

      Some of our ambassadors are former NSW premier and current Liberal Party president Nick Greiner, former federal Liberal environment minister Robert Hill, and former Liberal immigration minister Philip Ruddock.

      What a surprise!

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      PeterW

      It’s like a lot of push-polling.

      Ask a motherhood statement, and people are vaguely in favour of I.
      Ask a more specific question about an issue that will cost them, and the support drops off remarkably quickly.

      It usually starts to fade at about the $ value of a coffee per week.

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      Another Ian

      ““Recent research by the ABC found more than 80 per cent of Australians wanted the government to take more action on climate change, ”

      I guess I agree with that -

      “Get out of my bloody way”

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    pat

    heard Charlesworth on radio this morning – don’t recall what station. sounded hysterical:

    16 Dec: Guardian: Governments must act on public health emergency from bushfire smoke, medical groups say
    The 22 groups link the bushfire smoke to climate change, saying lives are being put at risk
    by Graham Readfearn
    The group has produced a joint statement (LINK) calling for political leadership while repeating a call for a national strategy to combat the health impacts of climate change.

    Dr Kate Charlesworth, a fellow of the Royal Australasian College of Physicians, which signed the statement, said: “Climate-related health effects are having the most impact on our most vulnerable: babies, children, the elderly and people with pre-existing disease. There is no safe level of air pollution.”
    “To protect health, we need to shift rapidly away from fossil fuels and towards cleaner, healthier and safer forms of energy.”

    Among the 22 groups that signed the statement are the Australasian College of Emergency Medicine, Public Health Association of Australia, Australian College of Nursing, Australian Association of Social Workers and Lung Foundation Australia…
    https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2019/dec/16/governments-must-act-on-public-health-emergency-from-bushfire-smoke-say-medical-groups

    16 Dec: AFR: Smoke returns as doctors warn of ‘health emergency’
    by Hannah Wootton; with AAP
    ‘Medical emergency’
    “Doctors are increasingly seeing the health-related impacts of climate change on our patients and communities,” Kate Charlesworth, a fellow of the Royal Australasian College of Physicians, said.
    “Just as we spoke up on asbestos and tobacco, so we have a responsibility to speak up on climate change,” Dr Charlesworth said.

    John Bonning, Australasian College of Emergency Medicine president, warned that hospital emergency departments (EDs) would see increased strain from climate change.
    “With projections showing that climate change will cause a significant rise in the number of overall ED presentations, an increase in the complexity of presentations as well as surges resulting from climate disasters, this medical emergency needs an emergency response,” Dr Bonning said.
    EDs were already “at the forefront of treating the impacts of these catastrophic bushfires”, he said.

    Further, the health and medical groups warned that the public health consequences of climate change would worsen as phenomena such as the fires became the new normal.
    “The NSW and Queensland bushfires are a sign of what’s to come. In the coming summers, we can expect not only a bushfire season, but also a smoke haze season,” Lai Heng Foong of Doctors for the Environment Australia said.
    “Climate change is going to get much worse and we will see more and more of these events,” Climate and Health Alliance executive director Fiona Armstrong said.

    “We must take the kinds of actions on climate change that scientists are calling for: dramatic cuts in emissions within the next few years or we’ll see warming potentially spiral out of control and we won’t be able to stop it.”
    The groups called for a rapid shift from fossil fuels to cleaner energy, fuel reduction burns, and the setting of stronger standards for everyday air quality…
    https://www.afr.com/politics/federal/smoke-returns-as-doctors-warn-of-health-emergency-20191215-p53k3t

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      Charlesworth in November on ABC:

      VIDEO: 4m47s: 19 Nov: MSN: Doctors ‘obliged to speak on climate risk’
      by Steven Trask
      Video provided by ABC News
      Doctors have a responsibility to speak out about the dire health impacts of climate change, an expert says, as bushfires burning across NSW create hazardous air pollution in Sydney…
      Public health physician Dr Kate Charlesworth says the medical profession has an obligation to discuss the link between climate change and poor health.
      “From a health perspective, refusing to talk about these bushfires is like refusing to talk about smoking and lung cancer,” she told AAP…

      Dr Charlesworth says doctors are increasingly seeing the health impacts of climate change on patients and speaking up is “part of our duty of care”…
      Poor air quality driven by more frequent and more severe bushfires will put an increasing burden on the state’s health services, Dr Charlesworth argues.
      “The evidence is overwhelming that we have a climate emergency and we need an appropriate response.”…ETC
      https://www.msn.com/en-au/news/australia/doctors-obliged-to-speak-on-climate-risk/ar-BBWXGl9?li=AAgfIYZ&ocid=mailsignout&fbclid=IwAR353z3e6Y64EcyhpRbvgxkeH9rwkxnQYMXMBqUvELp_A4rLoDnKlA9XGXM

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        3 Dec: news.com.au: More than 206 heat records broken in just 90 days this year, Climate Council report says
        More than 206 heat records have been broken in just 90 days in Australia. And worse is yet to come, with 50C summer days tipped.
        by Charis Chang
        Sydney and Melbourne could experience 50C summer days before the end of the century if greenhouse gas emissions continue to rise, a new report highlights.
        The Climate Council’s report said more than 206 heat records had been broken in just 90 days this year including record-highest temperatures in 87 locations…

        Dr Kate Charlesworth said air quality had been impacted so badly in some areas, “it’s the equivalent of smoking 40 cigarettes a day”.
        In Australia, the main risk to human life from climate change arises from heatwaves, which can lead to illnesses like heat exhaustion and the worsening of heart and kidney disease.
        “Climate change is a serious health issue. Health professionals like myself have a duty to speak up just as we did with asbestos and tobacco,” Dr Charlesworth said.
        Heatwaves, defined as at least three days in a row of unusually high temperatures, are occurring more frequently in Australia…
        https://www.news.com.au/technology/environment/climate-change/more-than-206-heat-records-broken-in-just-90-days-this-year-climate-council-report-says/news-story/ea3517db10838fd610ffebce0dc2014c

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    Ronald Bruce

    Misandry reigns supreme in the universities.

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    PeterPetrum

    Gee, Jo, why don’t you say what you think! Love your last sentence!

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    David Maddison

    OFF TOPIC

    I just heard on Their ABC radio (Australia) that supposedly a lot of people are moving from the mainland to Tasmania to escape the supposed heat of “climate change”…

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    AndyG55

    It does make sense that Sydney Uni would have a Professor of Gender Wars.

    But self-mockery is a losing strategy.

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    joseph

    There’s a rumour doing the rounds that the North pole has really thought it was a South pole . . . . .

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    Mick

    “The Global temperature has risen by only 1 degree Celsius in the last 300 years and we’re acting as though it’s an emergency. People are passing emergency climate resolutions. It is the most gratuitous virtue signalling that could possibly exist.” Dr. Patrick Moore, Ph.D. in Ecology, co-founder of Greenpeace, internationally renowned ecologist and environmentalist. But who needs this guy or other highly qualified people when we have a 16 year old school drop out to tell us what to do.

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    Robber

    Never lose sight of the Gigawatts.
    Melb forecast is for 39 degrees on Wed, and AEMO is forecasting lack of reserve capacity for Victoria.
    “From 1630 hrs to 1800 hrs on 18/12/2019.
    The forecast capacity reserve requirement is 1,015 MW.
    The minimum capacity reserve available is 936 MW.”
    Peak demand is forecast to be 9,000 MW, just as solar shuts down.

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    Zane

    Four hot days in Adelaide coming up could be an early stress test for the SA grid.

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    AndyG55

    Just wondering, does “toxic masculinity” also apply to those butch F gender that identify and dress and behave like men?

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    Another Ian

    ““A human being should be able to change a diaper, plan an invasion, butcher a hog, conn a ship, design a building, write a sonnet, balance accounts, build a wall, set a bone, comfort the dying, take orders, give orders, cooperate, act alone, solve equations, analyze a new problem, pitch manure, program a computer, cook a tasty meal, fight efficiently and die gallantly. Specialization is for insects.”—- Robert A. Heinlein”

    http://www.smalldeadanimals.com/index.php/2019/12/16/december-16-2019-reader-tips/#comment-1267301

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    pat

    East Anglian NIMBYS:

    15 Dec: East Anglian Daily Times: New cable technology
    by Andrew Hirst
    Politicians and campaigners are pushing for a new technology to save the region’s coastline from being ruined in the pursuit of offshore wind power.
    While renewable energy is widely supported, there are concerns the associated onshore infrastructure, including substations, could risk “industrialising” the region’s most treasured landscapes.

    The concerns have been heightened by a recent bid to build a substation on a 30 acre site in Friston to serve ScottishPower Renewables’ (SPR) East Anglia Two and One North wind farms.
    And with the region expected to see further growth in offshore wind, communities are urging Government and National Grid to find less disruptive solutions.
    A group of East Anglian MPs wrote to the Secretary of State for BEIS Andrea Leadsom in October to press the case for an ‘offshore ring main’ (ORM)…

    The government recently delayed its decision on whether to allow the huge Norfolk Vanguard wind farm, asking developers Vattenfall to address concerns raised on issues ranging from traffic to the environment…
    Suffolk campaigners welcomed the news and hope it may have wider implications for wind farm applications in the region.

    Fiona Gilmore of Suffolk Energy Action Solutions said it was “really encouraging news”. Given the many questions raised locally about the cumulative impact of these projects, she said the Government should call a “moratorium” until a “holistic strategy ” for offshore wind could be agreed…
    https://www.eadt.co.uk/business/suffolk-and-norfolk-mps-call-for-offshore-ring-main-for-wind-farms-1-6424713

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    pat

    16 Dec: Daily Mail: Greta Thunberg gets into Twitter spat with ‘overcrowded’ German railway service Deutsche Bahn after she tweeted photo of herself sitting on a carriage floor (but doesn’t how she was moved to a First Class seat!)
    By Ross Ibbetson & AFP
    In a stinging reply, DB said: ‘Dear #Greta, thank you for supporting us railroad workers in the fight against climate change! We were pleased that you were on the ICE 74 with us on Saturday. And with 100 percent green electricity.
    ‘It would have been even nicer if you had also reported how friendly and competent you were looked after by our team at your seat in first class.’…

    Thunberg, who was returning from the COP25 climate summit in Madrid, quickly wrote back: ‘Our train from Basel was taken out of traffic. So we sat on the floor on 2 different trains. After Göttingen I got a seat. This is no problem of course and I never said it was…

    DB followed up their tweets with a press release, in which they added that Greta’s travel companions ‘were sitting in first class from Frankfurt onwards’.
    As a First Class passenger, Thunberg would have had access to more legroom in plush leather seats, free food and drink, as well as complimentary WiFi and newspapers…
    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7794675/Greta-Thunberg-Twitter-spat-German-railway-service-Deutsche-Bahn.html

    15 Dec: Washington Times editorial: Greenhorns of the climate crusade
    Everyone loves children. They’re the best part of a better world to come. Unfortunately, kids are clueless about both the world as it is and the means to improve it. That’s why they’re sent to school to learn rather than teach. However, climate-change activists have managed to short-circuit the educational process and fashion millions of “green” greenhorns raring to fight for a decarbonized global economy. Sensible adults should step forward and gently disabuse misguided minors of the notion that the world is about to go up in smoke. It’s not…

    In fact, scientific consensus that carbon dioxide is the controlling factor in temperature variation is still a work in progress, despite the U.N.’s efforts to paper it over. And while atmospheric carbon dioxide has climbed to 400 parts per million during the era of human industrialization, global temperatures have not risen clearly in concert, as the carbon dioxide-temperature correlation theory demands.

    “Green” greenhorns like Greta Thunberg need reassurance that despite what they have learned from cagey activists, a world afire is not their future. In time, they may learn what preceding generations have come to understand: The worst fear is fear itself.
    https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2019/dec/15/editorial-climate-fears-are-driving-children-to-ex/

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    PeterW

    Funny thing….. the largest demographic among volunteer firefighters, is those eeeeeeeevil white males.

    Volunteering in this form has long been most prominent amongst societies heavily influenced by Judaeo/Christian traditions…… and men (in the words of one Psychiatrist) “need dragons to fight”.

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      yarpos

      This outrage should be corrected and male firefighters stood down and/or retired immediately until we reach the required and desired 50/50 male/female ratio.

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        robert rosicka

        Hang on Yarpos there are over 200 genders and they should all get a look in .

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        AndyG55

        Do you mean real male/female ratio..

        … or just those who identify as such.

        Life is so confusing nowadays. !

        And what about the other minority genders ?

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    pat

    16 Dec: WesternWeekender: How smoke could be impacting your solar panel performance
    By Nicola Barton
    (A graduate of Western Sydney University, Nicola Barton is a news journalist with the Western Weekender)
    According to local solar expert and Solec Industries owner Robert Hanson, the dust forming on the panels as a result of the fires can cause around a 30 per cent reduction in performance.
    Caddens resident Barry Dawson was shocked to discover his electricity generation had more than doubled after cleaning his solar panels last week…READ ALL
    https://westernweekender.com.au/2019/12/how-smoke-could-be-impacting-your-solar-panel-performance/

    graphs, etc:

    16 Dec: Bloomberg: Australia’s Love of Rooftop Panels Is an Issue for Big Solar
    By James Thornhill
    With its sunny skies and plenty of available land, it’s not hard to see why large-scale solar projects were drawn to Australia.
    Yet a rush of household installations has started to play havoc with the economics of those sprawling facilities.
    Combine that with the struggle shared by grids around the world as they move from round-the-clock power generation to more volatile renewable sources, and the outlook for large-scale solar in Australia looks less rosy…

    “Rooftop solar is an ever-growing risk for its large-scale counterpart,” said Lara Panjkov, an analyst at BloombergNEF in Sydney. “When rooftop solar operates, it reduces grid demand and suppresses wholesale electricity prices.”…
    BloombergNEF projects a sharp fall in income for large-scale solar in the next two to three years. The average price that plants receive in Victoria state, a market which includes the nation’s second-biggest city Melbourne, could drop as low as A$41 per megawatt-hour in 2022, from around A$140 so far this year…

    It won’t make sense to invest in large-scale solar until it becomes economical to add as much as 6 hours of battery storage, the level at which solar would be able to continue supplying the grid well into the peak evening demand period, Panizza said. That’s still a few years away and, in the meantime, there is more growth potential in wind power in Australia, he said…READ ALL
    https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2019-12-15/australians-love-rooftop-panels-that-s-a-problem-for-big-solar

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      Bill In Oz

      Does that mean if I get solar panels on my roof
      I’m helping to put wind farms & commercial solar plants out of business ?
      Interesting idea !
      Ummmmmmmm !

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    george1st:)

    A question for the some who know more than me about such things .
    How much energy as in heat is produced by humans every year in comparison to how much heat they say is being added by CO2 ?
    They measure emissions as being the weight of CO2 , and then say that is warming the atmosphere .
    I know that all energy used creates heat , car engines are cooled by radiators , hot exhaust will kill you ,turn the household ac on , hot air is heating the atmosphere ,power stations,industries,etc etc etc , u get my drift .
    I just wonder how many kilojoules of heat are going into the atmosphere and would that be heating our environment more than their hypothetical co2 greenhouse villain.
    It is only a thought and I havnt really delved deep into google for answers , perhaps man made energy is minuscule ,but then that throws doubt on why CO2 is not ?
    Sorry for silly question , but nice to get an answer maybe .

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      Kalm Keith

      Good question.

      Probably the best starting point is to look at how much cooling takes place overnight.

      It is substantial, and the next morning the Sun starts it all over again.

      I wouldn’t have any doubt that human activity would be very small compared to the effect of the Sun.

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        george1st:)

        Thanks KK for your answer , Ok lets start at the over night cooling , which is heat dissipating to where ?
        If its cloudy or cloudless seems to affect that cooling more than any thing else that I can think of .
        I am more interested in your last line of having no doubt .
        That was the question I wondered if any one had any real numbers on , rather than opinions .
        I follow and support Jonova,wuwt,sky(afterdark) and more, avidly and really have admired all the contributors including yours KK so this is not just a stir up or troll .
        Oh and also , I detest paying huge electric bills to the windmill millionaires.
        I am looking for real answers and have hope to fnd it here .
        IF I am totally off track in my thinking , it would be nice to see some facts from any one .

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          Kalm Keith

          Hi George,
          overnight heat that has accumulated in the earth, the oceans and infrastructure built by humans is just sitting there. Depending on where you are on the Planet the end of day temperature in the most liveable areas is about 17°C, just to pick a number.
          Above that level passenger jets fly at about 10 km altitude where the temperature is bloody freezing at about minus 38°C.

          The energy rule is that heat always flows down the temperature gradient, so very low grade, night energy, IR, flows upwards to the colder higher atmosphere.

          From there the process continues with heat at minus 38°C being attracted to deep space where the temperature is a degree or so above absolute zero. i.e. Energy at altitude is attracted to minus 272°C.

          In the area where I live in summertime it is not unusual to “lose” 7C° overnight. If the Sun didn’t rise the next day we would lose twice that, 14C°.

          The sun keeps us alive and human activity is minor in the game.

          KK

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            george1st:)

            Thanks KK
            Not sure I fully understand your explanation of energy
            but it has re-enabled me to realise the sun is THE source of energy and life on this planet .
            As well as water of course ., Giving oxygen and CO2 into the mix .
            So in other words all the power and energy and heat produced by humans is nothing compared to the sun .
            Yet the bi-product of that energy production which is CO2 , the alarmists tell us is very harmful because it captures more of that sun power into our environment .
            I am still confused.

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              robert rosicka

              The level of CO2 at the moment is about 0.04% and most of that is natural only about 3% is is caused by humans and if you want to go even further only 1.4% is Australias contribution .
              For us in oz it’s a figure something like 0.00002% depending on where you start from and is effectively zero as admitted by Finkel in senate estimates .
              So whatever australia does or doesn’t do will have zero effect on temperature or drought or bushfires .
              Yes the sun is the control knob but in conjunction with many other factors most of which are cyclical .
              CO2 is irrelevant to the climate mix as history shows we have had ice ages when levels were high .

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                george1st:)

                Robert , I am on your side
                It is not the level of co2 that worries me , but what the fear of co2 is doing .
                The western worlds fright of climate change is doing more damage than the climate is doing .
                It will be a slow and painful process before the populace learns the truth .

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              AndyG55

              Did you know that the so-called “greenhouse warming effect” from increased atmospheric CO2 has never been observed or measured anywhere on the planet !

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              william x

              george1st:)

              You posted “it has re-enabled me to realise the sun is THE source of energy and life on this planet .”

              well that’s true. No Sun equals no life.

              george1st:), Why do you need to be re-enabled to realise that obvious truth?

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                george1st:)

                Sorry , wrong wording , I should not have said re-enabled , I meant just confirms .
                I am just testing out my thoughts here .
                I am also wanting to get to the truth of the CO2 scam .
                How can we prove it is not Co2 causing the problem , they have already convinced half the world it is our fault .
                IF the Earth changed its rotation , ie a day is now 20 hours or the other way becomes 30 hours , our daily life would certainly change but not the seasons .
                How would the dreaded CO2 affect those days , something to contemplate regarding the sun .

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    pat

    TWO MUST-READS – from the prog left:

    13 Dec: TheIntercept: The IG Report on 2016 FBI Spying Reveals a Scandal of Historic Magnitude: Not only for the FBI but also for the media
    by Glenn Greenwald
    JUST AS WAS TRUE when the Mueller investigation closed without a single American being charged with criminally conspiring with Russia over the 2016 election, Wednesday’s issuance of the long-waited report from the Department of Justice’s Inspector General reveals that years of major claims and narratives from the U.S. media were utter frauds.

    Before evaluating the media component of this scandal, the FBI’s gross abuse of its power – its serial deceit – is so grave and manifest that it requires little effort to demonstrate it…READ ON
    https://theintercept.com/2019/12/12/the-inspector-generals-report-on-2016-fb-i-spying-reveals-a-scandal-of-historic-magnitude-not-only-for-the-fbi-but-also-the-u-s-media/

    for those who missed it first time I posted it:

    10 Dec: Rolling Stone: ‘Corroboration Zero’: An Inspector General’s Report Reveals the Steele Dossier Was Always a Joke
    The report throws water on one “deep state” conspiracy theory of the Russia investigation, but validates complaints about “fake news”
    by Matt Taibbi
    https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/political-commentary/horowitz-report-steele-dossier-collusion-news-media-924944/

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    pat

    15 Dec: WashingtonTimes: Missteps, selective coverage drive Trump supporters into full revolt against press
    Pew shows Dems, Republicans agree the press doesn’t deal fairly with all perspectives
    by Stephen Dinan
    President Trump has broken the press in America.
    Or at least he has left it bruised and battered, according to an analysis by the Pew Research Center, which crunched reams of data collected from 50 surveys and found that while Democrats continue to have faith in American media, Mr. Trump’s followers are quite done with it all.

    The findings were released just days after the press received its latest black eye in the inspector general’s report looking at the FBI’s behavior during its investigation into Mr. Trump. The inspector general thoroughly punctured journalists who insisted that the Christopher Steele dossier had little to do with the FBI’s ability to obtain a secret warrant to spy on one of the candidate’s advisers.

    Fueled by those sorts of media missteps, Mr. Trump’s followers are in full revolt against the press.
    According to Pew, the stronger the support for the president, the harsher the attitude toward the Fourth Estate.
    And the more knowledge about politics, the deeper the divide. ***A staggering 91% of politically woke Democrats say journalists are acting in the best interests of the public. Only 16% of politically astute Republicans say the same thing, Pew found…READ ON
    https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2019/dec/15/trump-supporters-revolt-against-media-pew-research/

    ***want to believe?

    9 Dec: Washington Times: Obama spied on an opponent and the FBI lied repeatedly. Trump is being impeached?
    by Charles Hurt
    https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2019/dec/9/obama-administrations-abuse-of-power-literally-wor/

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      robert rosicka

      Pat every law professor and leftist pundit get their info from the likes of CNN and the ABC so still believe the president did something wrong .

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    robert rosicka

    Totally amazed but just heard an ABC journo ask a “”scientist” what effect the Indian Ocean dipole was having on the current dry conditions and the drought .
    My amazement lasted 2.4 seconds when the answer was the current drought and fires were a result of climate change etc etc and no mention of the question asked .

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    RichardX

    A “university” has a professor of gender and war? Amazing. How did that happen? Which department hosts it? Anyway … warning to all employers. That’s one socialist cesspit you should avoid.

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    Bushkid

    Speaking as a real woman, I’m very happy for my men to be real men.

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      Deano

      Speaking as a man who identifies as a woman who, in turn, identifies as a man, I feel far more respect and admiration towards the women who have decided to think for themselves.

      I must say, buying underwear is much more fun than it used to be.

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    el gordo

    ‘There are multiple examples of cool climate dudes’ …

    We are the Denialati and proud.

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      el gordo

      UK teachers are just old fashioned Trots.

      ‘Tes surveyed 1,222 primary, secondary, FE, and Special Educational Needs and Disabilities (SEND) teachers.

      ‘Fully 72 per cent of secondary school teachers said they would back Jeremy Corbyn’s Labour Party, along with 10 per cent who were supporting the Liberal Democrats. Only 8 per cent intended to vote for the Conservative Party.’

      James Delingpole (Breitbart)

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    Rick

    Gee, I thought all Australian men were the masculine ideal and all Australian women beautiful, smart and independent. But then my references are Crocodile Dundee and Jo. I forgot that you have cities and campuses there as well.
    I guess I should get out of the igloo more often.

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    Reasonable Skeptic

    Every day when I get up in the morning I ask myself, so how am I going to exert my power over others today. Being a proud member of the white guy patriarchy allows me to do this of course. Unfortunately, I have never really figured out how to do it. All I have managed to figure out is that being a good husband and father and worker seems to align with my wants and desires. I am sorry fellow white a-holes, I am failing you!

    Perhaps I should exert more toxic masculinity, but that seems counterproductive. What about being racist? Does that help? I can’t see how it would. How about telling other people how they need to live? That seems to be popular these days.

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      Annie

      Nice one RS! I like it.

      Annie….Deplorable, Sceptical, Old White Woman. Wife, Mother, Grandmother. A Pommie/Aussie Christian to boot! Shock! Horror!

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    Robber

    Stop the presses. Just got an email from my electricity retailer in Victoria reporting that my electricity bill will be $361 higher in 2020, up from $1450 in 2019, a 25% increase. So much for all the pollie talk about driving electricity prices down.

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    Michael262

    Happy holidays in the bunker.

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    And here’s wishing you some evidence for Christmas.

    You’ve been waiting for something, anything …

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    Kalm Keith

    Did the ME 262 ever crack a bunker?

    KK

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    AndyG55

    Enjoy your soy de-alcoholised non-eggnog, mickey

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    william x

    No I call it a caravan.

    Hope you are safe and have a happy holiday as well.

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    Chad

    Did the ME 262 ever crack a bunker?

    No, but it did kill a few of its pilots !! -:)

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