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The Fog of War — more propaganda against Monckton

Anson Cameron makes a PR contribution in the big fog of the Climate War (Please: don’t dump the Monck), and I must say that it’s more sophisticated than the 50 religious academics who have no answer to Monckton and are terrified he might — God-forbid — speak.

Cameron’s been called out from somewhere to go into damage control. The pro-tax-team might be catching on to the idea that academics and clumsy GetUP campaigns have helped the skeptics no end. (Ta boys!)

Cameron’s better than the brutes-of-silence, and pretends to be oh-so-sensible and wise, but in the end the pretext that underlies his commentary is a joke. He can point to lots of keywords that are ripe for mockery, but when it comes down to it, Mr Cameron can’t explain why Monckton is wrong on the climate. Oh, he can link to Real Climate and mention the Stefan-Boltzman equation, but can’t explain it (I assume, or he would have; this is his only substantial point after all).

Cameron resorts to ad hom after ad hom, probably doesn’t realize how anti-scientific that is, and pulls out all the usual Monckton Voodoo doll points to stick pins in. But, when it boils down to it, what we are reading, thanks to our tax dollars and the ABC, is essentially the scientific opinion of a fiction writer (Lies I Told About a Girl, Tin Toys, etc etc) who can’t explain why Monckton is wrong, but reckons that the blog site realclimate is right and Monckton is wrong.

I guess poor cad, no one has told him that realclimate is run by the same guys who withhold their data, use tricks to hide declines, turn graphs upside down accidentally, and base much of their work around a tree species known to be the wrong one for the job.

This is, of course, par for the course for a quality piece of ABC “science discussion” (aka propaganda). Ergo, Ad hominem Unleashed strikes again.

Put Anson and Christopher in a room and let them go head to head over the Stefan-Boltzman equation. Cameron’s climate science knowledge would be crushed to dust, ground into the floor, and blown away by the first light breeze.

But, this is how the fog of war is created. Cameron and others feed these character assassinations out to the fawning fans of groupthink and authority. The vicious attacks strike out against those few who stand up against the establishment, and train the minions to repeat the ad homs. In the PR war, those fooled by Monckton’s “clown disguise” turn up in hope of an easy target for some jubilant self-satisfying mocking.

It’s a travesty of modern media that a serious commentator has to wave a red-flag target for the bulls of bluster to get them to come out and play. It’s the bait for their narcissistic overconfidence. They think they can whack him down.

If you are jack of the low-standards at the ABC like I am, maybe it’s time to start lobbying for our tax dollars to be used elsewhere. I’m thinking that there’s a billion dollars to play with, and apart from Chris Uhlman and the ABC kids program, I’m not feeling too precious about the rest. What say you? A few hundred million more for medical research, and for education programs in logic and reason?

I’m sure Tony Jones could find a good PR job with a green organization in no time.

Hat tip: Linda M

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30 comments to The Fog of War — more propaganda against Monckton

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    Roy Hogue

    Their hour, it seems, has come. And they will unleash their most vicious junkyard dogs against the truth. They will be terrible to behold (in their own minds). But after they’ve come and gone again the truth will still be standing there.

    Our job is to minimize the damage until they’re gone again; indeed, to hasten their demise. So come Lord Monkton!

    I wish he could speak all across the United States as well as in Australia.

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    Someone who writes: “Censored by lefties and eggheads sponging off our tax dollar, the things he wasn’t allowed to say will take on an unwarranted profundity” can’t be all bad. I would have liked Anson to link to some more of the outlandish claims that Monckton has made. Not to refute them but to add more context and credibility to his argument.

    The ABC has moved into strange territory over the last few years. I rarely see anything close to factual anywhere on the website. It’s only opinion, nothing more. I stopped watching TV and listening to radio many years ago so I can’t comment on the other arms of their enterprise. What reporters(I will never use the word journalist again) seem to get out of working for the ABC is access. Access to the corridors of power, access to our institutions and access to our country’s young minds which are still forming a worldview. The sooner the carcass of traditional media is rolled over, kicked a few more times for good measure and unceremoniously buried, the better. MSM is nothing more than shackles fastly bound to society’s ankles as it limps into the 21st century.

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    Jo, I think you might be on to something with the Cameron v. Monckton bout. I’d certainly pay premium rates to watch the fight. The Mad Monk rips the hind legs off Cowardy Custard Cameron …

    A bit of blood sport will clear the air. I suggest you act as the Monk’s second and deliver the challenge.

    Pass the popcorn …

    Pointman

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    Speedy

    These guys need taunting. And, by gingies, I’m almost tempted to give it to them!

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    Joe V

    Go Speedy. I already pulled him up on one cheap & worthless comparison, but I know you could really give him some serious help where it’s needed.

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    Act III has yet to begin. The players on the warmest side have the psycho epistemology of a two year old. They want what they want NOW and anyone who does not cooperate and agree with them is a selfish old bully. So, as spoiled two year old children, they will cry, scream, lie down in the isle and have a fit, hold their breaths, and generally make a mess of things unless and until they get their way. Their wish is supposed to be our undeniable command merely because it is THEIR wish.

    We adults, who live in a real world and are constrained by reality, are supposed to deliver on their demands without complaint, comment, or power of choice over what we do no matter what the contradiction or consequences. This doesn’t work for two year olds yet they expect it to work for them. I suggest we treat them as spoiled two year olds, take them out of the store no matter how much they kick and scream, buckle them into their car seats, and let them sit for a very long timeout! We must tell them ***NO!*** in a way they cannot evade.

    Inmates do NOT have the right nor do have they the ability to run their asylum, why then do we permit intellectual two year olds run our lives? The real world is for adults and it is way past time for we adults to take over and clean up the mess made by the pretenders who have momentarily grabbed the seats of power.

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    Joe V

    Waffle @ #2

    The ABC has moved into strange territory over the last few years. I rarely see anything close to factual anywhere on the website. It’s only opinion, nothing more.

    That’s reflected at the BBC too, where a number of retiring newscasters have lamented the tendency for news anchors to interview their own correspondents . What are they afraid of ? Getting an unsanitised real world opinion perhaps.

    Left wing DNA

    And here’s another site I never knew existed until searching for the above ref.:

    Biased BBC. Adding further comment ( you may need to login to see it)

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    Roy Hogue

    I’ve never before said a word about a thumbs down I’ve received. But this time I’ll say thank you. Thank you because you not only noticed but because it bothered you. And well it should. It’s the naked unvarnished truth.

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    Jack Taylor

    Lionel @ 6, the warmists have to have it NOW. Given time, the entire premise of global warming falls in a heap. Once the legislation is in place, it is extremely difficult to change. With Australia in full be-the-first-to-jump-over-the-cliff-for-globalo-warming mode, the social experiment will be in place.

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    Joe V @ 7:

    I read that article when it came out. I wasn’t overly impressed with it then and my opinion hasn’t changed. The whole left-wing media bias is a fantasy. The only way to describe the media outlook it statist. All media reporting takes us down one road, that is centralised control. Why? Because of access. If you don’t report kindly about your subjects they cut off your access. That’s why there is no fearless journalism anymore. Only regurgitation of press releases.

    If posters want to throw out their right-wing dogma about the media I’m happy to engage concerning all they ways the right-wing’s control issues are hammered relentlessly through the MSM soapbox. Drugs, crime, immigration, religion, ethics, etc. There are dozens of right-wing issues that fail the media bias test. So much so, the phrase ‘left-wing media bias’ makes me want to puke.

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    Roy Hogue

    Jack Taylor @9,

    Tomorrow we celebrate the 235th anniversary of the completion of The Declaration of Independence of 13 British colonies from their rightful King. That was by any measure a very reckless thing to do considering that they had neither an army of their own nor a general to command it. And considering that they were already in a state of war with King George and he had a standing army within the colonies at the time, they had little chance of putting together any kind of army. They were also subject to relatively easy capture. And their signature on that sheet of paper was treason against the King, punishable by death. Yet they did it.

    At face value they had absolutely no chance of success. Yet in the end they won the day. It was costly but they won through.

    So it looks too late to you. I understand that but I disagree.

    I’m sorry but you need to be out protesting at Parliament House until you’re heard, not just by the government but by the people. If you’re there the press will be there and sure as sunrise you’ll get asked why you’re there. And you’ll have signs. You’ll politely explain your cause. And you’ll be noticed. You’ll be before the people with your cause and they get to hear both sides of the story. Look at the trend in the polls. Which way will they go?

    But there’s a risk to this. So what are you Australians willing to risk to get rid of this monster that threatens you? As you point out Jack, it will soon be too late if something doesn’t change the mindset in your Parliament. Maybe someone is arrested. Maybe they make things very difficult for you. So how badly do you want this problem ended?

    I’m here saying prayers of thanksgiving this weekend for those men who risked everything, all or nothing, to gain something that was more worthwhile to them than their lives.

    I wonder who future generations of Australians will be giving thanks for.

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    rjm385

    Just a short note, I heard on the ABC radio this moring that the Federal government has stepped in to a tender process to stop overseas broadcasts being transmitted by SKY News. I didn’t catch all of it but this is interesting and I think the Press ballistic at this latest screw up.

    Say YES to an election now !

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    Bulldust

    I gave them a level-headed drive by on that article, adding that I rarely come to teh ABC site anymore because of that type of tripe. As long as they continue to play the man the are completely lost.

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    connolly

    He is Melbourne’s equivalent of Peter Corris (no that is not a compliment) who writes formaelic facile unfunny “satire” with his body of work unread in the remaindered bins of the country. Kingsley Amis he aint. But i guess it helps to get your head on the ABC web site in the hope that the latte set might spend one of their lazy five dollars and move some of the pulp fiction back log. So in place of undemocratic menace and defamation we have irony and a limp wave of the hand in the direction of man who has something very important to say. I suggest this approach has much to do with the advice of ABC defamation lawyers – humour and satire (it doesnt have to be funny or clever) are important defences in defamation.
    Meanwhile back in the real world – a world away from inner city irony we have just copped a heavy dose of social realism.
    http://www.illawarramercury.com.au/news/local/news/general/bluescope-steeling-itself-for-bad-times/2214371.aspx
    No doubt the carbon dioxide tax job destruction deniers (hey whats good for the goose . . ) will say the dollar done it. And this steel making community braces itself for a tough hard winter and demands a vote.

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    connolly

    Roy @ 11
    This month i and many other Australians are remembering July 1942 when a fascist force landed in Buna and the most important battle for our democracy commenced. When two militia battalians of largely untrained poorly equipped young men faced the most fearsome army in the world that had not been defeated. And won. For us. Democracy – the right to say unpopular truth against government and the right to vote.
    In regard to this issue all most of us want in this country is just a vote. Now or as soon as it can be organized. I dont mind demonstrating but it probably has gone past that. Just a vote. One each and it will be settled.

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    theRealUniverse

    The warmists are going to be highly embarrassed by the main caller..nature..the globe is cooling and there’s plenty of REAL world data to prove it. Oh but I forgot (warmists will try to state the unphysical nonsence) it gets colder when its warming..NOT.

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    Kevin Moore

    I feel sick.I’m listening to Bob Brown and Julia on ABC 24. God help us – we need another election. It’s a pity we don’t have power of recall. After all they applied to us for a job and as such are supposed to be public servants representing their electorate, but they treat us with contempt. They need the royal order of the boot!

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    Rereke Whakaaro

    Roy Hogue: #8

    C’mon Roy, it’s only one thumbs down. You are not even trying …

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    Roy Hogue

    C’mon Roy, it’s only one thumbs down. You are not even trying …

    Now 2 and probably still counting. ;-)

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    Roy Hogue

    connolly @15,

    In regard to this issue all most of us want in this country is just a vote.

    I hope you can get that vote. But your government seems to want it otherwise.

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    KeithH

    Bob Brown certainly knows which way the ABC has a permanent lean. In his Press Club address he said the Greens policy was to increase their funding, so look for a continuation of the dream run enjoyed by the Greens on the ABC! Softly, softly fellas, no hard questions!

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    Joe V

    Waffle @ #10.
    Thanks for checking out my reference. I found the Daily Mail article quite amusing, especially as it’s coming from an established BBC broadcaster, and could quite believe most of what it says. I only cited it though to support the point about using opinion, which appears alongside the picture of The Queen.

    As for the other reference @post#7 , I must admit I hadn’t examined it beyond it’s reference to the Daily Mail article but now I see it collects a series of such articles , serialising Sissons book , together and adds one more from Michael Buerk in a similar vein. People in GB recognise these newscasters from being in their faces almost every night for over 20 years & will accept there must be something in what they say. Because of the positions they have held, as insiders, they are very powerful words.

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    connolly rightly refers to, “Democracy – the right to say unpopular truth against government and the right to vote.”
    However, some of us—well, I at least—have had that “right to vote” taken by the State and Federal governments, and that is, inter alia, one reason for wanting to keep my freedom of speech.

    Quite rare are the times

    when you may think what you like

    and speak as you think—

    so Tacitus said,

    and I, for one, will attempt

    to maintain that link

    between thought, speech and

    the right of free expression

    lest all freedoms shrink.

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    1DandyTroll

    ABC is like BBC government owned organization. So fat chance for it to be unbiased and objectively reporting news, instead they push their own agenda.

    When BBC invested eight billion of their workers pensions in green tech is there no wonder that they now tout wind mills to save the planet?

    So, is ABC equally invested in green money? or do they just push government agenda when it suits their grants?

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    CameronH

    Individual pensions funds in Australia are referred to as superannuation and are placed into funds run by investment organisations which are typically independent of the company one works for and the government. Employees typically put 5% of their salary into the fund and this is matched with an amount equal to 9% of the salary by the employer. The employee is usually able to select the fund they wish to use so this provides a bit of competition. The fact that all of this money is typically invested by the investment organistion without any referrence to Government policy is a difficult thing for socialist governments like the current Labor Government. Wayne Swann, the current federal treasurer, has mentioned a few times about wanting to be able to “Unlock the money in the super funds so that the government can use them”. This desire to be able to legally steal people’s retirement saving is only to be expected from socialists and only an exctention of the current attempt to steal money from the mining companies, with the minerals resource rent tax, and the general populous with the Carbon Dioxide Tax.

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    “Lobbying for our tax dollars to be used elsewhere…” Why not return this money back to people instead? Defund ABC, defund NGOs, reduce taxes. We’ve done just this in the US. Works like a charm!

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    Damian Allen

    A good site which keps an eye on the ABC…….

    http://abcnewswatch.blogspot.com/

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    Damian Allen

    Another article about the DESPICABLE behaviour of the Broncos who cancelled Monckton’s appearence there in an attempt to silence Free Speech !!

    http://blogs.news.com.au/dailytelegraph/timblair/index.php/dailytelegraph/comments/bronco_university/

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    AlwaysWatching

    Gustav, if you think the USA “works like a charm”, well I have several bridges to sell you…

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