By Jo Nova
A new day dawns Downunder
For the first time in years, the Opposition doesn’t sound like a school girl (well, not all the time). And, suddenly the government has realized they shouldn’t go burning $2 billion on a COP31 UN-love-fest while voters can’t afford electricity — their political opponents could turn it into a stinging election campaign. Instead, as a consolation prize, they will fly Chris Bowen, the Minister for Weather Fiddling, to Turkey to preside over the COP meeting there and star in the bureaucratic beauty contest.
Giving up on the COP Cabaret will save billions, not just in hotel rooms in Adelaide, but in all the tokenistic daft climate projects the government might have started to impress the UN powerlords. As it is, the PM radically increased our Net Zero target in September — was that to earn favor with the UN to cinch the deal — if it was, the UN won. The fantasy target certainly wasn’t done to impress voters, because the Labor Party hid it from them during the election. Who was ‘Albo’ trying to impress?
Freed from the shackles of the Net Zero straight-jacket, the Opposition’s Energy spokesman can finally talk with some conviction about the awful costs, the poverty, the national productivity loss, the decline in standards of living, and the smelters that are closing. In a rare moment of functional governance, the Opposition promises to force the grid manager (the AEMO) to put cheap electricity ahead of weather voodoo. So, lucky Australians can still have hope, that one day our power stations might even be directed to make cheap reliable power rather than change the jet streams over Antarctica.
But the Opposition are camouflaging themselves in the talisman of climate virtue, as if chanting the spells of the Paris Agreement will protect them from the Global Bullies. To ward off the bad spirits, and BlackRock bankers, they still say they’re committed to the Paris agreement, while promising to consider building coal plants, which sounds a lot like the Chinese “net-zero plan”. Smile and say ‘Yes‘ while doing whatever you were going to do anyway.
Apart from burning the token Parisian incense, its heartening to hear some of the messages we’ve been saying for years, even if we feel like beating our head on the wall:
Australians desperately need reset on energy for more affordable power
By Dan Tehan, Opposition Spokesman for Energy in The Australian
Australia is in the midst of a cost-of-living crisis. This is undeniable. We have suffered the steepest declines in living standards of the developed world. Real disposable income has fallen by 8.5 per cent since 2022. More than a million Australians now work multiple jobs simply to get by. Under Labor, poverty has risen from 12.4 per cent (one in eight) to 14.2 per cent (one in seven). That is 3.7 million Australians, including 757,000 children, are living below the poverty line.
Our industries are collapsing under this strain. Closures in Whyalla, Port Pirie and Mount Isa are costing thousands of jobs. These are real livelihoods of real people that are being lost. Rio Tinto, who owns the Tomago Aluminium Smelter, directly attributes its imminent closure to soaring electricity prices. ASIC data shows 14,722 companies entered external administration in the 12 months to June 2025. Under the Coalition in 2021, that number was just 4,235.
And the clincher:
All of this pain has achieved nothing. When the Coalition left office, emissions were 28 per cent below 2005 levels. Today they are just 28.7 per cent below 2005 levels. Labor talks tough on climate but has delivered virtually no emissions reductions and higher costs. This is abject policy failure.
Here comes the incantation:
We remain committed to the Paris Agreement and to responding to climate change responsibly and affordably. We will reduce emissions on average year-on-year, and in line with comparable countries, moving as fast as technology allows rather than pursuing arbitrary, unachievable targets. To that end, we will use the Clean Energy Finance Corporation and ARENA to support scalable, breakthrough low-emissions technologies, including carbon capture and storage and advanced nuclear technologies that enable whole-of-economy decarbonisation.
The Blob rewards the Blob players?
Did anyone think any Australians would feel warm and gooey inside just because “an aussie” starred in a field of UN Blob-o-crats?
Chris Bowen to serve as COP31 president after Australia cedes hosting rights to Turkey
Chris Bowen will become Australia’s “part-time” Energy Minister as he takes on “all the powers” to lead global climate negotiations for the next 12 months, after the Albanese government ceded the right to host next year’s UN climate change summit to Turkey.
Many are wondering if Chris Bowen can be a part time Minister when our electricity grid and gas supply are in a crisis.
Sussan Ley challenged the decision, saying “Australians simply cannot afford to have a part-time minister in charge of energy policy”. “Families deserve an Energy Minister who is focused on their bills, not on chasing headlines overseas,” the Opposition Leader told The Australian.
But I say, if Turkey wants him, they should keep him. The further he is from the Australian electricity grid, the better.
At COP30, the negotiations are so hot that the whole venue caught on fire.
https://www.reuters.com/sustainability/cop/part-cop30-climate-summit-venue-evacuated-due-fire-2025-11-20/
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That was, of course, caused by climate change.
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I hope they’re checking their CARBON FOOTPRINT on this one.
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If Bowen was the best pick for the role. Who was second? How could you face the day after that insult?
I fear the world will get to see our greasy stain on the lounge room carpet and see, collectively, what fools we are. I had hopes that those that elected this government were playing a sad game of Boaty McBoatface, sadly I think they intended this self inflicted pain. All in the hope of receiving some cash handout or freebie.
We need to get off this merry-go-round, the fun has all but gone, just like the non-government jobs.
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Chrissie Bowen, simpleton, and Australia’s anti-Energy Minister, will showcase to the world that under his Government, Australia really is the Stupid Country.
And now it’s in Turkey. I am sick of the woke world falling over themselves calling it Türkiye and pronouncing it TYUR-kee-yeh.
To me, it’s Turkey. They are no friend of the West. I don’t care how they want it pronounced.
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The COP result is a Goldilocks (bollocks?) outcome for the Albanese government. Turkey was paid off for their support of the UN Blackout Bowen escape route
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I’ll believe it when I see it. We couldn’t be this lucky.
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Apart from Chrissie Bowen, simpleton, getting a participation prize, it remains to be seen what tribute Australia will be paying for securing that role for Bowen.
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It remains to be seen what Turkey negotiated with Australia apart from letting Chrissie be chairman. This is about previous UK negotiations.
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..But that was the reverse situation,…UK bribing Tky to get the gig. !
Maybe Albo has got Tky to pass a brown paper bag for the curse of hosting this time ?
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Yes, but we had to offer something for Bowen to be made president.
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At least Turkey is more of a developing country than China!
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‘Sanity prevails’ Albanese government’s bid to host $2bn climate summit fails as energy prices soar in Australia. Meanwhile, Blackout Bowen slips off to The UN on a global power trip where He will lead UN climate talks. He will be deemed indispensable and resign from our Parliament.
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Maybe Bowen could get a ride on Greta Thunberg”s yacht. If he’s so so intent on carbon neutrality, it makes sense. Do it for the sake of the planet Chrissie.
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Put Bowen on a windmill driven boat to COP 31 visiting China, India, Russia and USA during the year.
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But Robber, China, India, Russia and the USA aren’t interested in reducing emissions (whatever that means).
It would be better for Bowen to go to some islands in the Pacific (preferably in hurricane season) or some countries in Africa.
The sort of places that expect money from anywhere (with suitable backhanders to officials).
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The US did reduce CO2 output by 40% more than any other country. By moving to fracking. And get zero credit for doing so.
Clever Australia has made fracking and nuclear illegal.
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If they want BO Bowen in Turkey they can keep him and good riddance.
Again, here’s co2 emissions for the World , the NON OECD, the OECD and Aussies’ near horizontal line.
The World co2 emissions have boomed since 1945 and the NON OECD from 1950.
Yet the OECD has slightly reduced annual co2 emissions since 1988.
It’s total BS and nonsense and yet this could cost us our freedom and prosperity and at a cost of TRILLIONs of $.
But how many Aussie voters really understand the co2 emissions data?
https://ourworldindata.org/grapher/annual-co2-emissions-per-country?country=OWID_WRL~Non-OECD+%28GCP%29~OECD+%28GCP%29~AUS
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The result predicted by Callendar in 1938 was that an increase of CO2 (from 300 to 600 p.p.m. was less than 2℃ (indeed less than about 1.5℃ now claimed as exceeded by some) yet in that time the world temperature dropped for over 40 years.
When in 1971 Climate Scientists Dr. Schneider & Dr. Rasool wrote a letter to President Nixon about the coming ice age, they noted that even an increase by a factor of 8 in the amount of CO2 (i.e. 2600 ppm), which was highly unlikely in the next several thousand years, would produce an increase in the surface temperature of less than 2 deg. K.
That result were based on a climate model developed by none other than James Hansen before he decided that being a Guru on sea levels rises paid better.
in that time emissions have soared without signs of weather changing.
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Given that China, India, USA, Japan and Russia have no intention of reducing carbon combustion the destruction of the globe is imminent according to their CSIRO.
So why does Australia need an industrial research organisation when the globe will cook before any of their research bears results. So just shut down the organisation. It is a pointless waste of money.
If this proposition was put to their CSIRO climate modellers, they would soon change their tune and start doing proper research.
Something to ponder – JPL have updated their solar system orbital model a number of times. The model still produces results that I consider impossible. If they has the Sun model right, it would make climate prediction far more accurate. The movement of the Sun is highly dependent on the chosen starting position in a model. I have some doubts that the velocity of an object weighing 2E30kg located 1.5e11m from Earth that its velocity can be measured to the accuracy to distinguish iii it is 11m/s or 12m/s. The difference has a huge impact on its motion over time.
If I was directing climate research at their CSIRO, I would want a complete review of the solar system orbits. And I would want detailed analysis on convective overshoot. The work done off Darwin during the onset of convective instability 20 years ago remains one of the best analysis of ice at altitude measurement programs undertaken:
https://users.monash.edu.au/~cjakob/Papers/twpice_bams.pdf
This level of field work was replaced with climate computer simulations and that is when CSIRO and associates lost touch with reality. Those who did not support the CO2 fairy tale were shown the door.
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Always follow the money trail.
What is the Pacific Resilience Fund?
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Why would the premier of SA be concerned about a Pacific Resilience Fund …?
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It was Bowen that said that. Unfortunate editing in my part as I could not post the whole article here.
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Brazil tried to get up a Forest Fund, so this was the Pacifics turn to get some cash. The UK were going to throw $1b at it until Reform UK stole the polls.
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These dud politicians like to tap into the Australian notion of mateship. You gotta help your mates, you gotta look out for your neighbours. What better way to justify climate cash than to appeal to the Australian sense of obligation to your poor Pacific neighbours who are innocent victims of Western pollution?
Don’t worry about carbon capture, worry about the falsely guilt-induced climate cash capture.
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Labor’s Callous Betrayal of Their ‘Environmentally Responsible’ stance and The Rooftop Solar/EV Gravy Train is coming to an abrupt stop as power bills zoom skyward. The inept Conservative reorganisation response is unlikely to redeem them in voter eyes. Tinkering at the edges only serves to emphasize the internal divisions and left leaning party factions likely to erupt without notice like an Indonesian volcano.
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100%. These representatives of our so-called healthy democracy won’t give you the time of day unless it involves a community project they can fund and then advertise next to their smiling faces. I’ve had the same experience with a state Labor politician and Federal Liberal politician in my electorate(s). That’s how they really “engage with the community”. The flip side of that approach is to ignore any inquiries from their constituents that don’t fit in with their agenda.
It’s not worth your time to contact them unless you want a playground built.
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Interestingly, I twice wrote to our SA local Labor minister, Leon Bignel about the potential waste of money COP31 was here in SA; and raised the issues above about the destruction of manufacturing, power prices and other more important needs. The response I got was “net zero”. Did he see the writing on the wall?
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I think it’s now standard procedure for Australian politicians to not bother responding to letters from constituents.
Neither my state Liberal MP or Federal Labor MP bother responding to my letters, despite them having huge numbers of taxpayer-funded staff to do so.
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You’ve been red flagged David.
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I doubt Trump has time to look at this shenanigans but I could imagine him thinking that it is wonderful to be away from this quagmire of corruption. But Blackout is now going to be an active scammer; essentially the head salesman for China’s EVs, solar and wind manufacturers.
China is not going to give away their trinkets to the poor nations. They want to gradually take control of these nations through debt obligations. China is the new coloniser.
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Yes like China’s “Belt and Road Initiative”. Originally intended to generate debt for equity swaps in Third World countries, now signed up for by Victoria, Australia.
The last time Victoria signed up for it the Liberals were in power federally and cancelled the deal because states don’t have legal power to sign such treaties. The most recent signing saw no such action from the Federal Labor Government.
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China already has control of Victoria and NT! Not to mention PNG and Vanuatu.
The biggest solar farms in Australia include:
Limondale Solar Project
Darlington Point Solar Project
Bungala Solar Project
Sunraysia Solar Project
Wellington Solar Project
The SunCable project, aiming to build the world’s largest solar farm in the Northern Territory (NT) to export renewable energy to Singapore,
The Labor Government may well have subsidised solar Australia into a point of no return
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The biggest solar farms in Australia include:
Solar panels sourced from China?
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It gets better – “SA premier hits out at ‘obscene’ process after missing out on COP hosting duties”
Sarah Hanson-Young also a bit stroppy.
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S H-Y is ALWAYS stroppy.
Except when she’s using tax payers money.
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Honestly for the Liberal party it is too little, too late. I haven’t spoken to a single person willing to consider returning to a vote for them. The Liberal party is dead, as is the leadership of that blob sock puppet Sussan Ley.
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As you say, maybe too little and too late.
Meantime One Nation is surging in the polls. Now 18% of primary vote. No3 behind Labor and Libs and ahead of Greens and Nationals.
One Nation has a very shaky history but people are desperate for a change and Libs are unconvincing.
I saw that both Pauline Hanson and Malcolm Roberts attended the March for Australia in Canberra in October. Possibly the only politicians to do so.
A lot of Labor party voters are inherently conservative but also very tribal. If some of them switch to One Nation it will be game on.
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Remember that Pauline H first came into Parliament in the seat of Oxley, around the then coal mining town of Ipswich, formerly a solid Labor seat. Offer attractive policies, and the “True Believers” will switch their vote.
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The trouble is, the LNP were largely responsible for most of the climate actions. They wanted to appear virtuous and thought ( still do ) that this translates to people voting for them. That’s why you still have the major state LNP’s clinging to the fantasy. But it provides too easy a target for criticism, in addition to the normal childish insults of being deniers etc. Already I saw yesterday Jason Clare ( Federal Education Minister) posting on X the announcement by Angus Taylor of Net Zero back in 2022. The LNP need to recant, repudiate, reject anything to do with climate action ASAP. Just adopt all the policies from the Nationals and listen to Matt Canavan for starters.
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Tony D
I have the same conclusions re the Liberals. They are gutless and clueless. You are either committed to this climate madness or your not. I don’t trust any of them.
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Don’t any of these lard heads understand the 98 + % drop in global death rates from extreme weather events etc over the last 125 years?
At any other time this would’ve been hailed as a miracle and yet today we have kids howling about the end times and why they shouldn’t bring kids into this more dangerous world.
The data is very clear that we live in the safest world today, but very evil people still tell lies and insist we have to terrorize weak-minded fools and waste even more TRILLIONs of $ ASAP.
Why do they ignore the evidence and then behave like barking mad loonies and continue to vote for even more liars and con artists?
Isn’t it better to spend 5 minutes online, then save trillions of $ and WAKE UP?
https://ourworldindata.org/grapher/natural-disaster-death-rates?country=Flood~Extreme+weather~Wildfire~Drought~Extreme+temperature
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The COP caper is and has only ever been about the “redistribution” of money and power. Thinning the “vote-herd” is part of that game.
How are the “opinion-shapers of the LameStream Media handling this?
About as well has has become customary from churnaists.
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I winced when I heard Dan Tehan say that he wanted more ‘gas’ availability and commercial rooftops covered in solar… Gas is expensive, no East-Coast reservation thanks to that ex-Origin, Grattan guy..
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The Labor Government may well have subsidised solar Australia into a point of no return. From Solar Australia to so-long Australia!
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Almost all politicians don’t understand the electric grids and network systems. “he wanted more ‘gas’ availability and commercial rooftops covered in solar”. Solar has been incredibly bad for our grids and the longevity / reliability of our thermal generators.
It is residential rooftop & utility (large scale) solar which is “eating everyone’s lunch” as some industry commentators call it. Solar takes away much of the available run time of tradition thermal generators (coal & Gas) but provides nothing when it’s needed most in the evening and morning peaks.
Coal & gas have to ramp up / down, on/off to work around solar and wind, this is hugely inefficient, especially for coal where a coal plant doing a cold start after a week offline will need to burn 70,000 to 100,000 litres of diesel before it can be at a temperature to burn coal.
Even restarting after being offline for 24 hours and it still has heat in many systems is laboursome and accelerate wear on many components.
Ben Beattie on The Baseload podcast does a great job at explaining the detrimental effect Solar and “ruinables” have on our grid networks and our power bills.
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Dr Roslings 200 countries over 200 years video takes a few minutes to watch and starts in 1810 when every country was in the poor and sick corner and ends in 2010 when so many countries have arrived in the rich and healthy corner.
The Industrial Revolution changed the world in just 0.1% of the time that Humans have existed on Earth and average life expectancy from 28.5 years then to 73.5 years today.
Even their BBC helped Dr Rosing to show the accurate data fifteen years ago.
(3) Hans Rosling: 200 years in 4 minutes – BBC News – YouTube
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Sorry, here’s that Dr Rosling link again.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z8t4k0Q8e8Y
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For those who wish for sensible power grid operations, as I do, and who still hope for nuclear powered generation, this week is a total bust. A complete bust.
Yes, the Fed Opposition says its’ dumped Net Zero, but still has absolutely no intention of detailing any plan for power generation. This was just lip service to keep the Nats from leaving the Coalition.
Two the State Libs (mostly Opposition, but even Q’ld refuses nuclear) changed their “Leader” to woke, wet, lefty feminisation. None of the State Libs will jettison Net Zero nor even pronounce the word nuclear. They are scientifically/engineeringly illiterate and mathematically innumerate. End of story.
And COP31 is now not in Adelaide. I had hoped it would be – for the very same reason Elbow pulled Bowen off the hunt. The full panoply of 30,000 hypocritical nutters, Adelaide airport maxed out with private jets, the vastly expensive catering – the complete loathsome package in the country and recorded/published on thousands of mobile phones – would turn a lot of votes. Elbow is smart enough to know this. Bowen had to be yanked off and given a consoling gold stamp on his forehead.
I appreciate that Rick Will and a few others keep the technical discussions going, but no politician or bureaucrat cares about that at all any more. The gross bulk of the voters never did. Better-off city electorates vote Teal because they can afford the result (Simon Holmes a Court was politically clever), poorer suburban electorates vote ALP for the handouts, and completely outnumbered regional electorates are deliberately stomped over.
One of my colleagues in a better-off Sydney electorate has this week completed installation of subsidised roof panels and a 32Kw battery (he hasn’t tested the Kwh metric yet with household items turned on or off) for a total upfront cost to him of about $40k. No EV though, he says. He insists, and I agree, that he has been forced into this with both never-ending power price increases and rationing now unavoidable.
As I said, this week is a complete bust.
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The CSIRO swears wind and solar are cheaper. And now no one thinks so. Who needs 6,000 salaried job secure experts who are perpetually wrong and killing all industries. A major part of their responsibilities.
Is there no accountability for public servant scientists pushing their political agendas? Or do they plead ignorance?
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The turnaround in the CSIRO has been quite breathtaking. This is a small factoid from 2019.
“CSIRO – advanced carbon power
26/3/19
Developing advance carbon power technologies
CSIRO are developing an alternative pathway to low emissions electricity from coal and other sources of carbon through two advanced carbon power technologies – the Direct Injection Carbon Engine (DICE) and the Direct Carbon Fuel Cell (DCFC). DICE and DCFC are suitable for large scale electricity generation and decentralised applications at industrial or remote locations.
Benefits of this technology include increased efficiencies in electricity generation; significant reduction in greenhouse gas emissions even without CO2 capture and storage; delivery of power in a shorter timeframe and at a smaller scale than conventional coal technologies; and diverse fuel potential including black and brown coal, as well as biomass, tar and plastics.
Pilot-scale demonstrations of advanced carbon power
CSIRO have demonstrated at laboratory and pilot scale that DICE and DCFC could deliver generation efficiencies of more than 50 per cent and 65 per cent respectively. This is a significant gain when compared to existing coal-fired power stations, which operate at 33 to 38 per cent.
Other outcomes:achieved efficiencies similar to diesel operation
* suitable MRC has been produced from 17 coals (black, brown, tailings and biochar)
* solutions have been developed for adapting fuel systems and managing engine wear
* developed a new method of coal processing to produce MRC fuel by reinventing the physical cleaning process.”
So In probably less than 6 years they have gone from a serious research facility conducting projects in the country’s best interest, to now telling lies about the costings of the different electricity generation types. What the hell happened?
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MRC= maximum rated capacity
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Direct injection of coal slurry into diesel engines is not even new and was developed earlier than 1977.
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Yes, but ultra supercritical coal plant such as the Pingshan Phase II plant in China has achieved a net efficiency of 49.37%.
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“What the hell happened to the CSIRO?” you ask.
The bureaucrats in our public service understand the money scam that is the Climate Change/Renewable Energy and how it will deliver them, better salaries, lots of policy option positions, tenure, security etc; so, they have persuaded their management colleagues in the CSIRO and BoM they must play this climate crisis game and follow the UN post-modern rules, never mind what the policies do to Australia. The bureaucrats are insulated from its problems and mostly are isolated in the Canberra bubble that supports Labor or the Greens.
It is the outer suburbs and regions that are copping all the energy transition flak and where the fightback against the climate/energy scam will be strongest. Cost of living issues, job security and inflation all driven by high electricity costs, plus the backlash against cultural- environmental woke issues will be eventually what brings Labor down. We have started this process in Queensland, it’s time you people in NSW and Victoria started paying attention and start seriously criticizing governments who won’t acknowledge there is no climate crisis and there is no justification for an energy transition that decarbonizes/lobotomizes our Australian economy for not public benefit.
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The CSIRO swears wind and solar are cheaper.
The real problem is the cost of transmitting that power to where it can actually be used. And is perhaps why the residential installations of solar panels is proving to be a “real thing”.
I will consider my opinion of urban electorate politicians when they require solar panels on car parking lots (added benefit of reduced heat through shading).
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S and W are only cheaper when they are in operation- that’s it in a nutshell. When they can’t work- which is 60% of the time, they are extremely expensive and have to be supported by backup systems- at also high cost.
Rooftop solar has the highest penetration in Oz because it is very effective for personal use and eventually saves household budgets after payback, batteries are less useful except when owners have looks of technology requiring charging. Governments need to provide reliable cheap 24/7 power for the public and industry, this simply can’t happen with renewables above 10-15%, these facts are generated from global experience over the past 3 decades of trial and error in Europe and Asia. The results are already in, which is why Developing nations are now industrializing faster than the OEDC and gaining political and economic strength relative to the former rich West.
Unless we totally repudiate the Climate narrative, and failing energy transition Australia will become an economic basket case and a sock puppet of either China or the US or both.
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And they are correct. You only need to look at the wholesale price today. Solar generators are paying the retailers $7/MWh to take their solar and rooftops are effectively paying $14/MWh for the retailers to redirect what they are exporting. Wind is right now providing free electricity to the grid in QLD and NSW and paying retailers $60/MWH to take in SA and Vic.
What CSIRO. fail to work out is that coal generators are capital intensive and essential because the wind often dies most days and solar dies every day. So all the costs associated with coal power have to be recovered over less output. During the evening peak, the coal plants will charge more than $100/MWh to make enough money to cover their high costs.
And then retailers also rob consumers to pay grid wind and solar for LGCs and they have a pile of STCs that they bought from rooftops to pay for as they go by more theft from consumers.
Then there is the cost of stabilising the grid and AEMO’s cut that gets added to the wholesale price that retailers have to pay.
If all wind and solar farms were required to supply their rated capacity when required, the would need to charge around $400/MWh. This is of the order of 10X what it would cost to run existing coal plants flat out. And you could forget all the stabilising costs and
Mat Canavan is on the right track when he states that they need to prioritise low cost electricity rather than lowering CO2. It would immediately kill most of the grid scale wind and solar. Because none of them could bid on the basis of guaranteeing supply unless they are coupled with a gas plant of the rated capacity that they bid. They would then carry all the costs of intermittency.
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Coal and gas are free too. And can do much more without being turned into electricity. No losses in transmission either. The exclusibe emphasis on electricity prices is wrong. Glass making. Fertiliser. Heating. Transport. There is a substantial loss in making only electricity. But electricity and a grid allows government central control.
We could pipe gas everywhere with no loss.
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And given that states control minerals, the Federal government can control all power, a dream for Canberra and totalitarian. In Victoria gas and gas appliances are being outlawed. Why? What could be cheaper than free ethane?
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“The CSIRO swears wind and solar are cheaper.
And they are correct. ”
No they not, because they don’t account for whole of system /network costs!!!
Bicycles are cheaper than cars and trucks but we don’t rely on them for transport of people and goods because it would be hugely inefficient and economy destroying.. and the wind, solar, batteries approach for supplying electricity is EXACTLY the same!
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There’s no way wind and solar can be cheaper where there has to be a complete alternate grid built or maintained just to cope when the there is a calm at night or a stationary high over southern states in winter.
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Bumped
“@Jim2:
The only reason wind and solar are “cheaper” than nuclear or carbon fuel based is that they force a capital intensive power plant to run as a load following peaking plant (i.e. incredibly inefficient and stupid high cost mode) instead of running as a base load plant (i.e. maximum efficiency and lowest cost mode).
Rather like saying a hamburger is cheaper than a 24 oz Porterhouse IFF you slice 2 oz off of the porterhouse and only eat the 2 oz but have to pay for the whole thing… just because the burger has a 2 oz patty in it.”
https://chiefio.wordpress.com/2025/10/28/w-o-o-d-27-october-2025-hurricane-melissa-whacks-jamaica-russia-accelerating-in-donbass-eu-uk-imploding-donald-dithers/#comment-179889
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Fear not troops, accept that this land of tribes is gone for all money and ain’t nothing going to stop it now and your tranquillity will improve. Your battling against three generations of complete brain washing throughout our “Institutions” and with the control of social media, a fait accompli.
Start attending Chinese classes.
ps earning rates for Australian Shares are heading for negative territory
[Changing your user name or email, or mis spelling either, creates a new user identity with Zero history. Today, it is “Naughty Corner”. Yesterday it was “Rusty of Qld”. Make up your mind and stay with that choice. – LVA]
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This is exactly what President Xi wants Australians to feel. Defeated without a fight. Did he pay you to write this, or are you surrendering voluntarily?
Past generations died in the trenches to defend Australia, and this one won’t even go to a protest, write a letter to the editor, or phone talk back radio?
PS: Australian gold shares are doing very well.
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Here’s a link from NASA to the Rasool and Schneider study in 1971.
And the abstract states that a factor of four increase in Aerosols could start a return to another ice age.
But the co2 warming effect diminishes as more co2 is added to the atmosphere.
So even then they agreed that the co2 increases had a zero chance of stopping the next ice age.
In 1971 co2 levels were about 326 ppm and about 427 ppm today.
The difference is about + 101 ppm in the last 54 years or an increase of 0.01 % of co2 in the Earth’s atmosphere.
In 1800 co2 levels were about 280 ppm and so today an increase of 147 ppm or about an extra 0.015% of the atmosphere over the last 225 years.
https://www.giss.nasa.gov/pubs/abs/ra00600k.html
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My link at 7.1 also.
Interesting that James Hansen modelled the effect of GW as unlikely, even if the co2 level reached 2600 p.p.m. it wouldn’t increase the temperature by 2 degrees K.
Recently I found an old paperback about Great Disasters etc and one of the ‘disasters’ was the “Hellish Summer of 1980” in the USA.
So from Coming Ice Age to Coming Heat took only one warm summer to convert Climate “Scientists”.
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We have sleazy albo, black out Bowen and snake Chalmers. The three stooges, but not funny. As for the CSIRO, 99% of scientists agree with who is paying them, the other 1% are out of work. Nut zero is a [snip “fantasy”].
[Email coming David – Jo]
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In her first press conference as state leader, Kellie Sloane lamented net-zero brawling and ‘dysfunction’ around the federal Liberals, while confirming the NSW branch would continue to back a 2050 emissions target.
Kellie Sloane is an Idiot
To All Liberal MPs who think Net Zero is Fairyland Fantasy
Ditch the Turnbull Labor Lite Liberals in Name Only – LINOs
& join the national Party
National Party join with all other Conservative Groups in Australia, One Nation, Advance Australia, Family First and all of you run Candidates in all upcoming Local, State & Federal Election (whilst maintaining your own independent entities)
As a Group hire Maths Quants to Game the Australian Electoral Preference system and beat Labor/Greens/TEALs at the Preference Swapping Game
Kellie Sloane confirming the NSW Liberal branch would continue to back a 2050 emissions target is no different to Labor/Greens/TEALs
Why would you Vote for Her or LINOs?
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It doesn’t require Maths Quants nor gaming of the Electoral Preference.
It does need voters to organise their preferences in a sensible way ie put the Freedom Loving Conservative minor parties first, in any order, but before the Libs.
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Peter C,
. Micro Parties and the “Preference Whisperer”
The most notable example involves minor parties and micro parties in Australian Senate elections, especially before the 2016 reform that abolished GVTs. These small parties often lacked broad public support but exploited the complexity of preferential voting by pre-negotiating intricate preference flows with other minor parties.
Key Figure: Glenn Druery, known as the “preference whisperer”, coordinated what became known as the “Minor Party Alliance” or “preference harvesting” network.
He used mathematical modeling and game theory to design optimized preference-swap strategies among micro parties.
The goal was to direct preferences in a sequential elimination process so that even candidates with less than 1% of the primary vote could win a seat if they were last in a final pairwise contest
And actually today an excellent article in the Sydney Moanong herald on the Capabilities of Australian Maths Quants in AI
https://www.smh.com.au/technology/an-offer-he-couldn-t-refuse-the-young-aussie-who-couldn-t-say-no-to-zuckerberg-20251117-p5ng0e.html
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And The Australian reports a big fire at COP30.
Also on Youtube https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1tMa4-2nVzg
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Sorry STALE NEWS
Were they destroying the evidence?
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Generator fire. Obviously, wind and solar can’t keep the lobster bisque warm.
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That’s exactly what is going to happen if the Net Zero goal is abandoned and the opportunities of cheap, renewable power generation is ignored.
(Germany is collapsing because they are dumping 24/7 power in their transistion to intermittent power that drive up the cost therefore make businesses fail much faster than ever, thus you are 100% wrong) CTS
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Simon it has been discussed many times before, Germany is a basket case because of Net Zero. Unreliable and intermittent energy reduces productivity.
‘Finally, the Coalition comes to its senses on net zero of bad policy.
‘When the Coalition grasps the facts and summons the conviction to run hard on this stuff, it will humiliate Labor, the Greens and teals and revive Australians’ hopes of economic security.’ (Oz)
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It’s just a jump to the left –
Madness takes its toll.
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Bumped
“Wirtschaftlicher Selbstmord”
“Germany 2025 is the engine room of European industry and the warning siren for anyone who thinks intellectual arrogance and green wishful thinking can outlast the laws of economics. In just six weeks, Germany lost another 125,000 industrial jobs; the grand total since 2019 is pushing a quarter-million—out the door, out the country, or just vanished.
Let’s call it what it is.
The lifeblood of German industry—cheap, reliable energy—is gone. Years of shutting down nuclear, hamstringing coal, and then watching Russian gas evaporate left the country with electricity and gas prices double or triple those in the U.S. or Asia. Every boardroom spreadsheet in Frankfurt and Stuttgart, from chemicals to car parts, is stamped in big red letters: “Relocate or Die.” German executives are now eyeing Texas the way their fathers once eyed the Ruhr Valley.”
More at
https://wattsupwiththat.com/2025/11/20/wirtschaftlicher-selbstmord/
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Green thumb for CTS.
Nothing for Simon
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The answer to this madness is not to say “well done” decades after it was obvious to most sensible people that it was all a scam, but to get rid of the politicians who allowed the scam to take hold and cost so much money.
GET RID OF THEM. Replace the lot of them with people with some intelligence.
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Perhaps there will be special rewards from The Blob Lords for being the global dark elite’s most compliant proteges.
At least once the Global Utopia is achieved.
Which happens when all that defy Utopia are dealt with appropriately.
You have lots of open space.
Perhaps you could prosper once again as the Global Utopia prison colony.
Just kidding, the Global Utopians won’t need much prison real estate once enough useless eaters are forced onto a science based vaccine schedule.
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Bowen should be on Elon’s first mission to Mars.
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Got to be protecting our quarry one way or another . . . ‘Get dem data centres up and running at any political quarry cost’ . . WA, QLD . . . Chugga, Chugga the turbine builds full steam ahead . . .
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