By Jo Nova
So many political leaders are backtracking on green policies, Bloomberg laments the Climate Deniers are Hiding in Plain Sight.
Sir Kier Starmer was a star at the last COP meeting in Azerbaijan, but this year he doesn’t even want to go to the next COP meeting in Brazil. Apparently his aides “are worried about being criticized by the Reform UK party.” Only two years ago Starmer was criticizing Rishi Sunak for missing COP27, now he’s too scared to go himself lest he look crazy-green.
Everywhere countries are saying they care about climate change but are doing the opposite. The EU nations are fighting over their 2035 and 2040 emissions targets, Mexico is borrowing up to keep its oil company afloat, Canada scrapped their carbon tax, and is being “coy” about their 2030 target. Governor Gavin Newsom just boosted oil drilling in California “a year after he described the industry as the “polluted heart of this climate crisis.””
Now Kemi Badenoch, leader of the Tories in the UK, is promising to dump The Climate Change Act if she gets elected. Suddenly, the race is on to be skeptical. She’s in an existential fight for relevance against the storming Reform party which are polling as high as 29% now, compared to the Labour government on 21% and the Tories at just 16%. All those skeptical voters were there all along, enough to break the two party system in Britain.
The Climate Voodoo Doll is coming undone
Ponder how fast it all is. Only one year ago UK voters had a choice of Net Zero by 2050 from both sides of politics. Labour were offering to be recklessly green, and the Tories were aiming to be 95% as reckless, while calling themselves “pragmatic”.
The BBC lays out how similar the two main Parties were in 2024 — Labour wanted to decarbonize the whole grid by 2030, while the Tories were aiming for “only” 95% of the grid to be low carbon by 2030. Labour hoped to ban the sale of new petrol and diesel cars by 2030, but Richi Sunak pushed that back all the way to… 2035.
Then Trump won, and Nigel Farage stood up and said it is ‘absolutely nuts to call CO2 a pollutant‘, and the crowd roared. Somehow, improbably, Farage is now “nearly as trusted” as Labour on climate change, which only shows how many skeptical voters there are. They trust him to get rid of climate parasites.
Kemi Badenoch vows to repeal Climate Change Act
Tory leader says she would replace it with ‘cheap energy’ strategy, ending decades-long consensus on climate
Fiona Harvey and Helena Horton, The Guardian Thu 2 Oct 2025
Kemi Badenoch has vowed to repeal the Climate Change Act if the Conservatives win the next election, doing away with controls on greenhouse gas emissions and dismantling what has been the cornerstone of green and energy policy for successive governments.
The Conservative party leader was already committed to scrapping the UK’s net zero target but repeal of the Climate Change Act would go much further. It would remove the need to meet “carbon budgets” – ceilings, set for five-year periods, on the amount of greenhouse gas that can be emitted – and disband the Climate Change Committee, the watchdog that advises on how policies affect the UK’s carbon footprint….
Badenoch’s announcement, before the start of the Conservative party conference this weekend, brings the destruction of the three-decade long consensus on the climate among the UK’s major political parties, under which all have campaigned on strengthening climate action rather than weakening it.
Playing a game of “slightly less crazy” was a hopeless trap for the Conservatives. The people trying to be a small target are the weaklings of climate battles. They have nothing to campaign on. They can hardly point out all the flaws in climate policy when they want to make most of the same mistakes. Instead the crazy people look like they have conviction (at least), and the less crazy people just look weak. (I’m looking at you Sussan Ley).
When Prime Ministers are promising to control the weather with power stations, the only response is mockery and derision.
As it happens, even after busting the 17 year Uniparty consensus, Badenoch is still not much of a skeptic:
Badenoch says: “Climate change is real. But Labour’s laws tied us in red tape, loaded us with costs, and did nothing to cut global emissions. Previous Conservative governments tried to make Labour’s climate laws work – they don’t.
She says “climate change is real” so the crocodiles won’t eat her first, but it doesn’t work. Donald Trump didn’t pander or pussy-foot and look where it got him — elected twice (and probably three times)?
Once a leader breaks the sacred climate vow in any way, they are an Apostate — there’s no point being half-an-Apostate, because The Blob will throw just as many bricks. But there is something inspiring about a leader who takes the bullies on directly instead. Being fearless is inspiring.
Everything is a catastrophe
Former British PM Theresa May, speaking on behalf of The Blob, called Badenoch’s move a “catastrophic mistake”. It wasn’t that thousands would drown, instead a catastrophe was something that broke “the consensus”.
Responding to Ms Badenoch’s plans, the Tory peer said: “I am deeply disappointed by this retrograde step which upends 17 years of consensus between our main political parties and the scientific community.
As if there was something wonderful about both political parties and the scientific community all saying the same thing at the same time.
As Dave in the States says: “It’s catastrophe for grifters, and the subsidy and grant harvesters. “
And isn’t this just the perfect quote?:
“To row back now would be a catastrophic mistake for while that consensus is being tested, the science remains the same.”
The science is always the same, anything else is not permitted.
Aint it grand: Karma has also come to Michael Mann who was forced to step down from UPenn after his disgraceful comments about the late Charlie Kirk. The house of cards is starting to collapse. Hip Hip Hooray.
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The M. Mann step-down is from an administrative post. He wanted to continue as a global warming crier and UPenn doesn’t want to soil the neutrality of the Quakers.
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He probably will continue as you suggest John, but every little step (down) counts.
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Hopefully it will soon be “Mann the lifeboats!”
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What’s next? A repeal of the law of gravity? I do love the way the right cheery picks the science areas that they disapprove, so logical
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The left have already done that, always telling us that Up is Down, plus Black is White, Lies are Truth. But they still don’t know what a woman is.
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“What’s next? ”
The disappearance of idiot bots that cannot write English?
Unlikely.
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Aah Peter, as I have posted elsewhere, show me the scientist and I will show you his “science”. Show me who pays the piper and I will name the tune.
Consensus is not “science”, Michael Crightons exposed the flaws in the “Climate Science” of these past thirty years in his book State of Fear, 25 years ago, and it has been a manual for this Sceptic for all that time. Have a read, not for the story, but for the actual science.
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Peter,
Would you be so kind as to point me to the science paper that convinced you?
You know the one! The first modern peer reviewed paper that established that frequently repeated relationship between atmospheric CO2 levels and surface temperatures, using the readily available instrument records.
Alternatively, perhaps you can point me to the Wikipedia page that explains how the IPCC’s Anthropogenic Global Warming theory was proven, and the physical evidence that this proof relied on.
I’m definitely not interested in cherry picked statements! Please show me science that I can rely on.
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Don’t panic PF, The Tory leader has said she’ll repeal the net zero act.
Same Johnson said he’d stop immigration, same as Starmer said he’d stop immigration,!
They’re all a pack of devious, corrupt, immoral liars. You can start to panic when Farage becomes the next PM!!
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Some organisation could repeal the law of gravity but if you climbed to the third story of a building and dropped your laptop off the balcony, well let’s just say you won’t be cheery picking up the pieces PF. If you asked a group of people what the expected outcome was going to be beforehand, you no doubt would have reached a consensus. Not a consensus based on questionable computer modelling projecting decades into the future, but one that is based on empirical knowledge of physics.
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I think that Malcontent Turnbull already did that with his claim that the laws of Australia are superior to the laws of mathematics.
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‘What’s next?’
Arctic sea ice extent determined by natural variables.
https://notrickszone.com/2025/10/02/new-study-attributes-arctic-sea-ice-decline-and-slowdown-since-2012-to-internal-variability/
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There is Climate Science and there is real science.
The two are not the same.
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Please let us know when the “laws” of climate science have been as thoroughly tested as first Newton’s law of gravity was and later Einstein’s theory of general relativity was.
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Your whole climate drama schtick is based on cherry picking.
The projection is strong in this one.
Hypocrite much?
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“The greatest teacher failure is”
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Ahh, Peter, you’re correct in a mistaken way – we on the Right do pick in a “cheery” way everything which can be confirmed, or at least not disproven, by the scientific method.
Consensus is for non-scientific matters, or for those who don’t understand science and what it actually is.
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It’s remarkable how much things can change in just a few months under Trump. That old saying, “When the USA sneezes, the world catches a cold,” feels incredibly accurate.
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Even models mad 50 years ago are accurate
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[in case it’s not obvious the number “50” was a link, here’s the link to the article https://www.science.org/content/article/even-50-year-old-climate-models-correctly-predicted-global-warming
and the study https://agupubs.onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1029/2019GL085378
Keep replies about the science and not Peter. Thanks. – Raquel]
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In 1938 Guy Callendar presented a paper showing that the Earth had warmed since 1890 and that CO2 had also increased. In 1938, he noted that global temperatures had risen by about 0.3 degrees Celsius over the previous 50 years. One of his graphs showed that at about 425 p.p.m. the effect would raise the temperature about 0.9℃ and by 600 p.p.m. the rise would be about 1.6℃ rise.
Gilbert Plass (writing in 1956) estimated that a doubling of CO2 would cause the planet to warm 3.6ºC, that CO2 levels would rise 30% over the 20th Century and it would warm by about 1ºC over the same period.
It is found that even an increase by a factor of 8 in the amount of CO2, which is highly unlikely in the next several thousand years, will produce an increase in the surface temperature of less than 2 deg. K.
Schneider S. & Rasool S. –those results were based on a climate model developed by none other than James Hansen. That was before he was “converted” to predicting The Seychelles (etc) would be underwater by 2018.
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And recent Kubicki et al papers have said that we are already at the saturation level of CO2 so more has no effect.
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Not so much.
STILL Epic Fail: 73 Climate Models vs. Measurements, Running 5-Year Means
https://www.drroyspencer.com/2013/06/still-epic-fail-73-climate-models-vs-measurements-running-5-year-means/
Enlarged graph showing wild deviation of models from measured reality
https://www.drroyspencer.com/wp-content/uploads/CMIP5-73-models-vs-obs-20N-20S-MT-5-yr-means1.png
And for additional reading:
120 years of climate scares
https://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2014/08/120_years_of_climate_scares.html
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Mad 50 years ago and still mad today, yep.
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50 years ago scientists were worried about global cooling.
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1970s Time Magazine featured on the front cover and an inside article about global cooling underway.
1980s Time Magazine featured on the front cover and an inside article about climate change and global warming
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Peter, The chart in that study ends at about 2016/17. The chart shows the observations were running below the models and then the observations do a jump up in 2016 to the model level.
Temp Anomaly in the study https://agupubs.onlinelibrary.wiley.com/cms/asset/45fc6516-cdb7-49d6-9e17-40baaafff35b/grl59922-fig-0003-m.jpg
Roy Spencer did a chart in 2023 using 36 Models the IPCC adopted for AR6. His chart is basically showing the same pattern as the one in the study. Observations running below the models and then a jump up around 2016. But he has continued on to 2023 and after 2016 the observations continued well below the models.
https://www.heritage.org/sites/default/files/inline-images/BG-observed-warning-vs-climate-models-charts-page1.gif
Check out the charting on the observations vs models for the USA 12 State Corn Belt summer observations. Obviously the corn belt is smaller than the rest of the world and you could say it’s cherry picking. But it’s an interesting comparison and the sort of thingthat needs to be done when agriculture sectors are being told certain things and policies are being adopted based on models that dont match the sector. https://www.heritage.org/sites/default/files/inline-images/BG-observed-warning-vs-climate-models-charts-page2.gif
Roy’s full article
https://www.heritage.org/environment/report/global-warming-observations-vs-climate-models
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I know what you bases that statement from Peter.
I know the Official Narrative says the models work Peter but that obviously isn’t true. For example none of them predicted the pause, or anything really.
Peter, just because a taxpayer-funded “scientist” calls something a “model”, it doesn’t make it one.
Models need to be validated before they can be used.
And present models use totally invalid assumptions that a trace gas like CO2 with a concentration of 4 molecules in 10,000, of which only 4% are of human origin, I.e. 16 molecules in 1,000,000 or 0.16 per 10,000 is responsible for catastrophic warming.
It doesn’t make sense.
None of these models, past or present have any proven forecasting or hindcasting capabilities whatsoever, therefore they are not validated and should not be used for decision-making.
Any predictions these models pretend to make are based on fudged data.
https://www.hoover.org/research/flawed-climate-models
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‘The projection skill of the 1970s models is particularly impressive given the limited observational evidence of warming at the time, as the world was thought to have been cooling for the past few decades.’
The Great Climate Shift of 1976, a natural variable, saw a steep rise in temperature. The modellers were just lucky.
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Hopefully it will soon be “Mann the lifeboats!”
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Well said El Gordo.
Like the old saying, even a stopped clock is right twice each day!
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And a 67 year old paper published by the Royal Society in 1958 showed conclusively that man made CO2 was only 2.03% of atmospheric CO2. It is true today. Mankind cannot change CO2. NASA has proved that. So whether there is warming or cooling, it is nothing humans have done or can control. And as NASA observed over 26 years,if CO2 goes up, trees go up in direct proportion, so carbon credits are nonsense.
So Al Gore did not check his facts. And James Hansen needed a job other than the atmosphere of Venus, a disaster of a planet at 900C not least because the day is almost exactly a year and CO2 is 98%, which cooks the planet. No beaches on Venus.
But it wasn’t about science. It was a way for innumerate Al Gore to make a splash for his shot at the US Presidency in 1988. And for the UN to claim control and taxation over the world’s weather. A dream for socialist politicians. And the lies have never stopped. That’s the inconvenient truth.
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UK conservatives have been given a dose of reality as Farage polls ahead of them and Labour. Looks like Badenoch is scurrying to try and keep up.
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Yes, but they are lying. Just like Labor. Tell them what they want to hear and when we get power, we do what we like. It’s the new Democracy. Unaccountable non democratic dictatorship. As in Australia.
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Surely you don’t infer that our “ handsome boy “ is lying.
You do realise he was the architect of Trump’s peace plan for Gaza. He couldn’t possibly be lying about that…. Or he’s simply lying again….reverted to his original self!!
God help us!!
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Exactly
Badenoch is still an AGW / Net Zero true believer … she just won’t admit it anymore because it’s bad politics. She can’t be trusted, or rather, she can be trusted to be do nothing and let the status quo remain if elected to office.
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Look up Lysenkoism. Some pretty strong parallels to consensus “Climate Science” along with uniparty governance.
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It’s catastrophe for grifters, and the subsidy and grant harvesters. Unfortunately, most of those have already got away with millions and billions and will never be held to account.
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Except the ruling regime in Australia…
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Sounds a lot like the situation in America circa 2016. But Mitt was the last straw. Do they really think that voters worldwide will continue to put up with it forever, too?
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Australia will be the last hold out for this insanity and unless we can elect a genuine conservative party like One Nation (not fake conservative Libs who originally signed us up to this madness and still support it) it will be the death of Australia as we know it. We will become something like Venezuela along with elements of North Korea and China. And Albanese’s head will be printed on the currency and there will be statues of him everywhere.
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And Daniel Andrews and Malcolm Turnbull. You would think with $444Million (Plus interest) he could supply his own statue, but that’s not how grift works.
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Malcolm Roberts is really the only remaining politician who has always been a climate realist. From the get go and says it publicly. Others who tried have now been forced out or retired. Some others remain but toe the party line or were made ministers and therefore silenced. At state level in Victoria, there’s absolutely no one from any party. Even those who represent the people in the Latrobe Valley (brown coal/ power generation area for those not from Australia). The article described the “slightly less crazy” policy of opposition parties. Nope, not in Victoria, the Libs were even more crazy, actually proposing higher emissions reduction targets than state Labor.
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I love Malcolm’s work and respect him tremendously. I think Matt Canavan and a few others are aware of the lies we have been fed in order that we won’t revolt at the theft of our money to fund these climate carpetbaggers.
I am hoping that Hastie is also realising that this evil climate lie is killing our country and is as big a danger as anti-semitism/Islamism.
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I see Dan Tehan has returned from the USA with stories about the “ nukular “ industry in USA which we all know about already.
He made one comment which gives away the LNP intentions to retain NET ZERO policies.
Basically he said they’ll use nuclear to achieve their climate goals. Until their “ leader “ stands up & says net zero is off the agenda & they’ll scrap the dumbass policies, you can bet that as far as they’re concerned net zero is here to stay. That is their climate goall!
Talk about devious immoral liars!!
That means that they’ll be staying in opposition with their policies. The LNP cannot be trusted. I’ve also just lost what little trust I had in Tehan. BS doesn’t baffle all brains mate!!
I propose we set a trust “ test” for Andrew Hastie as well. How can government ever be trusted again when we see these shenanigans being repeated time & again. Is there any minister or would be minister that we can honestly say is trustworthy.
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SHOCK! HORROR! common sense is making a comeback. Quick ,arrange a new scientific consensus.
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Ironically, the apparent slow retreat from net zero insanity, if that really is what we’re seeing, presents opportunities for the same few rich people who made staggering sums milking the renewables scam. Much like when the stock market ‘adjusts’ to a lower level, a lot of money can be made by buying back in at the right time. We will see this happening to oil and gas assets, which will soar in value.
Even the legendary investor Warren Buffet, who has sat on his hands recently guarding an enormous pile of cash, has made a very significant move. He has bought a subsidiary chemicals business from Occidental Petroleum (which he also has a big stake in) for almost $10 billion. Both his purchase, OxyChem, and the parent Occidental, are firmly rooted in the petrochemical industry. Buffet’s move could therefore signal the beginning of a huge move of capital back into oil and gas businesses.
Happy days?
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Buffett and the world might be moving back to petrochemicals but here in Australia it is illegal (or difficult due to land claims) to explore much of the country or off shore areas and its even illegal under the constitution to frack in Victoriastan, a move voted for by the fake conservative Liberals.
And yet the Albanese regime keeps saying Australia will be a “renewables superpower”. No one wants that garbage. We will be a stupidpower only.
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We will end up with Nett Nothing.
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FWIW
“And yet the Albanese regime keeps saying Australia will be a “renewables superpower”. No one wants that garbage. We will be a stupidpower only.”
That actually translates as “We will have the biggest pile of abandoned solar panels and windmills”
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Well said David.
Previous Labor governments I disagreed with but this one is just so incredibly shallow, arrogant, ignorant and incompetent they couldn’t run a bath let alone a country!
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Buffet as always been petrochemicals. The reason he invested in renewables some years back was because the US Govt was guaranteeing him a profit, and he said at the time that you’d have to be an idiot not to take that guaranteed money.
Now that the guarantee is going away he’s going back to things that actually make a profit.
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Their so called CC was always BS and nonsense, just look at the soaring co2 emissions from the NON OECD countries over the last few decades. IOW they don’t care and only want the cash money reparations from the OECD.
The OECD countries have been played for mugs, but unfortunately Aussie voters still want to believe the Labor party lunacy while the evidence proves that Labor are just reckless con merchants and liars.
Isn’t it time we checked all the data and thought for ourselves for a change?
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Just think if we had a sensible government and the billions thrown away on “renewables” were used for something useful and nation-building like drought-proofing, irrigating and flood-proofing the whole country. And it would have cost only a tiny fraction on what’s been wasted on renewables.
The self-destructive impulse is, unfortunately, strong in Australia.
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I had to laugh as soon as I saw the words “nation building” in your post.
I immediately thought of the comedy show Utopia.
That show was comedy gold.
It revealed the incompetence of governments in anything they have a hand in.
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Utopia was a comedy show??? Tell me it’s not so.
I watched it all as a rapt observer of the internal workings of real political machinations
/sarc
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Unhappily, Utopia revealed that the ABC knows in exquisite detail what is now wrong with many things in Australia, but in News reports fails to give them air. Hypocrisy?
Geoff S
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It can be disturbing when parody looks like reality.
For a while in the 90s myself and a colleague were convinced that Scott Adams (Dilbert) worked in our building and went to or monitored management meetings.
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He can’t have been in your building. He was in ours.
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Yes, our version of ‘Yes Minister’.
Outstanding.
I am amazed the ABC made it.
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And Trump will be dismantling all the Climate Change departments. As we have in Australia where most Federal Acts create an entire department of Climate Crazies.
He is having fun with the hapless democrats who have handed him the ability to wipe out the Climate departments.
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We will see what happens with Vought and the hundreds of thousands of retrenchments, hopefully destroying all the endless non essential Climate Change departments. (like Australia and the UK)
One interesting aspect of the Schumer shutdown is that Jeffries and Schumer are both from New York. All the big cities, including London are extreme socialist, hand out havens. Like Sadiq Khan in the UK.
New York is getting ready to elect Zohran Mandani, an openly anti American communist as NY Mayor.
And this means both House and Senate leaders Jeffries and Schumer are being threatened with being Primaried by AOC and friends. So they have caved.
But I suspect that it’s really payback, giving AOC what she demands and hoping it destroys her base but either way, it removes her argument for removing Schumer.
Nothing punishes AOC and her extreme left Democrats more than giving them what they want. Like when she complained against Amazon building their headquarters in New York. So Amazon didn’t. Costing tens of thousands of jobs. Who needs jobs when you have Social Security?
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Been meaning to check this statistic for a while now. How many people work at the Federal Department of Climate Change, Energy, the Environment and Water (DCCEEW)? So, Chris Bowen’s department. Answer – 5000!!! So lets say it’s roughly 1/3 for each component. That’s at least 1500 people go to work every day promoting actions or government policy regarding CLIMATE CHANGE. Every day. The only thing to be thankful for is that it’s the public service, so they’e terribly inefficient. Otherwise, we’d be all more cooked than we already are. Then there’s the duplication at state level. In Victoria, almost the same titled department also has 5000 people working (???) in it. How many full time climate sceptics are there? A handful at best.
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It’s endless, the departments, the money machines. Clean Energy Finance was just given another $18Billion! Where’s that going? Climate change at every level of government. Green departments. Each new act of parliament means more people to implement and enforce and monitor and report. But an enormous amount of it is hidden from the public. The Safeguard Mechanism, a CO2 tax heading to 35% on all big groups, even the MMBW, is a monster. Of course that is being passed onto the unwitting customers. The CO2 tax on flying is 10% on its way to 35%. And fuel is the second biggest cost after the aircraft. All shipping. Plus taxes on methane and more. Based entirely on pretend science, fake science which is not allowed to be questioned or even mentioned. The Fix is in.
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FWIW
“Nutty Blood Pressure “rules” Change – AHA Gone Wild!”
https://chiefio.wordpress.com/2025/09/30/nutty-blood-pressure-rules-change-aha-gone-wild/
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Reposted today’s thread
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The problem is the well conditioned Western populace, who can be cranked up by fear and hatred. The left keep doubling down, and the race is on to control data and information. Zombie armies can be dangerous. The West’s foundations are pretty creaky at present, with multiple financial bubbles. Things can get desperate. The politics of bluster are leading to a fine harvest of unintended consequences, often negative for those who had thought they were on the winning side. Maybe we are getting the collapse we had wished for, to avoid the spiral down to 1984, being speeded up? There are people who think they can benefit from the chaos.
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Everyone should check the Co2 Coalition Scientist’s FACTs archive and hopefully start to think for yourself and then try their Quiz to test your understanding of the Science.
These are the genuine and most experienced Scientists on our planet and they only follow the real data.
But so many govts still prefer clueless donkeys, con merchants and liars, yet they could be following the real data and then they’d fully understand the UNPRECEDENTED Human flourishing (just 0.1% of the last 300,000 years) since the start of the Industrial Revolution.
Again, here’s the link to the Scientific facts archive.
https://co2coalition.org/facts/#main
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You can bet LNP are looking at PHON polling:
https://www.macrobusiness.com.au/2025/09/the-resurgence-of-one-nation/
The growing support has a lot to do with immigration but NetZero is also in the mix similar to the UK
Pauline Hansen may not be the most articulate politician but her values have remained firm. Likewise Malcolm Roberts. PHON will likely make or break the next Federal Government.
The Greens are now party to the destruction of Australia’s environment with wind and solar farms destroying the landscape. Their values are up for sale. Their support for NetZero through wind and solar farms is destroying the environment that they claim to protect.
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A good model for One Nation would be Reform in the UK. Currently, they’re showing that the two-party system CAN be disrupted.
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I know the clueless donkeys hate the facts about co2 emissions and their source, but check out the last 80 years or since 1945.
The World co2 emissions trajectory of the graph hasn’t changed much since 1945 and yet the OECD countries actually have slightly lower co2 emissions today than they did in 1990.
Of course NON OECD co2 emissions are soaring today and Aussies’ co2 emissions are no more than a horizontal biro line at the bottom of the graph.
Yet the liars and con merchants insist we waste more TRILLIONs of $ for a guaranteed zero return and then have no energy security and therefore no national security.
https://ourworldindata.org/grapher/annual-co2-emissions-per-country?country=OWID_WRL~OECD+%28GCP%29~Non-OECD+%28GCP%29~AUS
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Kemi Badenoch should team up Nigel Farage. She’d be more effective in Reform. She’s wasted in the so-called Conservatives. There, she’s like putting a good jockey on a three legged horse and expecting a win.
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Many ordinary Progs take Climate Change as a given.
Even more so as religious aspiration.
So facts mean nothing.
Like ‘men can birth babies’ and ‘no human is illegal’.
They think they can outlaw ‘hate’.
So making the glaciers stand still isn’t a stretch.
No one side is going to prevail in a debate because there isn’t one.
Just bifurcated non-intersecting but co-existing ephemeral world views.
Except reality tends to reassert itself.
Ruthlessly.
I think we’re seeing it at this moment in the UK.
Or take Trump.
The delusional reality contingent, across the globe, see him as the cause of their distress.
He’s more a result.
Skepticism or reason isn’t changing minds.
Reality is just closing in.
And probably with a vengeance.
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Beware the trojan horse
Boris said many things before turning into a traitor to the British, once elected
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One should always remember that “Climate Change” was never the “problem.” It was always the “solution” to a problem.
The real “problem” always has been …. “How do you install a globalist technocratic oligarchic dictatorship to govern the world?”
The “solution” was …. “You invent a global environmental crisis that you can use to terrify the punters, and get them to unite behind the narrative, and thereby willingly surrender their freedoms and their savings.”
Now, that solution is starting to fade … but the original problem of installing a globalist dictatorship is going no where. They just need to find a new solution to their problem. A new pandemic perhaps? Global terrorism perhaps? A war with China/Russia? I’m sure they are already working of the replacement narrative.
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I maintain that one of the biggest players pushing net zero, despite its obviously suicidal trajectory, is the CCP. They are also behind the divisive politics wrecking social harmony, including mass immigration from cultures incompatible with western values – the end result of which will be further breakdown, friction and violence.
It stands to reason, IMO, not least because this sort of subversion and sabotage has long been the trademark of both China and Russia, who have both been caught at it for decades now. We might more recently add Iran to that list.
The two main weapons they use are money (manifesting as various types of corruption) and social media. They find willing accomplices in our midst, in the form of homegrown communists and socialists.
Read any number of books on the matter, including those written back in the 50s and 60s. All of these tactics and activities were known about even then, sometimes turned into novels and movies. I guess what’s different today is the sheer scale of this ‘espionage’ and the reach our adversaries have via the internet, all the way into our homes and schools. The old timers in the State Ministry of Security (China) and the GRU (Russia) would have given their right arm back then, for the influence and capability they have today.
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I don’t believe there is a universal ‘they’. Political, scientific and commercial opportunists taking advantage of changing times, the AGW gravy train is a direct example.
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Not a universal ” they”?
Correct, however there is the western globalist one world GOVERNMENT crowd. And China happily played along. Trump got that right as well. China plays along as long as they profit. As the globalist were suceeding, they fracture to decide whom is to really rule.
However the main western nation subsidariy support for the Globalists are the ever present “useful idiots”.
The globalists lost already. It is only a question of how much destruction they can do on the way out. Their one true talent is destruction. Look at Ukraine as an example
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If we really cared about our planet we’d be very concerned about the very low levels of co2 in our atmosphere during the last four glacial advances.
In the last four glacial advances, the CO2 level was dangerously low. – CO2 Coalition
“During each of the last four glacial advances, CO2 concentration fell below 190 ppm. At the end of the last glacial advance, it fell to 182 ppm, thought to be the lowest in the Earth’s history. Why is this alarming? Because below 150 ppm, most terrestrial plant life cannot exist”.
“We came within about 30 ppm (30 molecules out of every one million) to the extinction of most plant life on land, and with it the extinction of all higher terrestrial life-forms that depend on it. Bear in mind that, before we began adding CO2 to the atmosphere, we weren’t sure that we wouldn’t cross that critical 150-ppm threshold during the next glacial period”.
“Please note that many people confuse the glacial advance with “ice age.” The current ice age we are still in began about 2.4 million years ago. The planet altered between very cold periods known as glacials and warm periods called interglacials. We are thankfully in the tail end of interglacial warm trend”.
Source(s):
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Sorry that link to the co2 Scientist’s FACT 4 didn’t work.
Here’s the link to their fact 4 and the graph showing the co2 levels during the last 4 glacial advances.
In fact our last glacial advance had reached the lowest level of co2 in the atmosphere.
Shouldn’t that fact make us WAKE UP and THINK?
https://co2coalition.org/facts/dangerously-low-co2-last-four-glacial-advances/
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The aim of the Euro-WEF-alphabet-agency-aligned crowd was to transfer wealth, transform political/economic systems, and, possibly, to depopulate. Are these ambitions reversed? Perhaps the USA, along with RIC, is finally asserting independence? That is one reading that is going about. One instance, libor to sofr. See https://www.newyorkfed.org/arrc/sofr-transition
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What is the total cost of the net zero and earlier emissions lowering targets spread over all UNIPCC member nations that have participated in the farce?
Trillions of dollars no doubt, and then consider what could have been done to improve lives and living standards,
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Roman warm period was 3.6 deg F warmer …
https://climatechangedispatch.com/roman-warm-period-3-6f-warmer-than-today-new-study/
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Amazing stuff, the temperature at 0AD. Was Jesus Christ born on a warm day? Actually as the priest who invented the calendar had no concept of zero as a number Christ was born on 25 December 1. But that’s quibbling.
Anyway “Researchers took the skeletonized G. ruber sampled from a depth of 1,500 feet (475m) located in the northwestern part of the Sicily Channel.”
So what they have is a rare value for the temperature at 475metres in the NorthWestern Part of the Sicily Channel? Really?
And I have to ask, how does the UN/IPCC know the air temperature at every point on earth at 0AD? Thermometers weren’t invented until 1700. And then there were few. Plus no one lived in Antarctica, which is the size of South America.
It raises a very good question about how anyone knows the ‘Global Temperature’ to better than a few degrees at every point on the planet going back thousands of years? On which man made Global Warming is based. Or did God drop a notebook? And Al Gore found it?
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Tony Heller has pointed out the absurdity of a “global temperature” when most of the world except for Western Europe, US, Canada and Australia and NZ weren’t even recording temperature data until the last 100 years or less.
I mentioned it on page 13 of my “misinformation” submission at:
https://www.infrastructure.gov.au/sites/default/files/documents/acma2023-31735-david-s-maddison.pdf
Unfortunately the picture is no longer available on the original source at the link below where I got it from but you can see it in my submission at the link above.
Most global historical temperature data such as from Africa, Asia or South America is extrapolated from a single or even no stations.
FIGURE: Global Historical Climatology Network stations until 1950 showing the sparse nature of temperature data which included mostly the US, Canada, Europe and Australia. It was only after 1950 that some reasonable data started to be collected for worldwide temperatures. Source: NOAA
https://www.ncei.noaa.gov/products/land-based-station/global-historical-climatology-network-daily , public domain.
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How do you extrapolate backwards even a hundred years let alone 250 or a thousand? And give that 75% of the planet is water (Antarctica and more) and much of the rest is unliveable (Himalayas, Sahara, Gobi, Andes, most of Australia) how do we know the temperature in the Himalayas or vast Siberia in 1700? To an accuracy of 1C?
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Forget extrapolation into the past. How do you extrapolate a global temperature to a tenth of a degree even in the present day when temperature sites even in wealthy countries like the UK have a margin of error of 2-5 degrees? Imagine how bad some of the siting is in countries that don’t spend billions on climate change. Yet we are supposed to believe if you aggregate thousands of measurements from around the world with up to five-degree MOE for each observation, they somehow result not only in a meaningful number, but a number with a degree of precision an order of magnitude (and then some) greater than it’s inputs.
Stop pissing on my boots and telling me it’s raining.
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All you need is a single bristle cone pine tree.
Do I need a sarc tag?
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“One tree to rule them all, and in the darkness BIND them!”
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Imagine if I could run a competition here on Jo’s fine pages.
Imagine if I offered a long-time Aussie reward of a carton of VB stubbies to the winner of
? ON AHAT DATE WILL PM ALBANESE ANNOUNCE THAT WE HAVE JOINED THE 86% OF THE WORLD REJECTING CLIMATE CHANGE ACTION?
Like closest to the pin in golf.
…..
Alternatively,
? WHAT IS THE MOST EFFECTIVE MESSAGE THAT READERS HERE CAN SEND TO PM ALBANESE TO CONVINCE HIM TO DROP ALL OF HIS NET ZERO CARBON POLICIES ?
One liners better than long essays that I have been too prone to write lately.
Geoff S
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Agreed, but I come up with a massive 95%. All of Europe, 350, Canada 40, Australia 26 NZ 5 and you get 420Million out of 8 billion. 5%.
Go Elbow! Show the world what a lack of numeracy and a big dose of Communism can achieve. Maybe Elbow can get that seat on the UN Security Council and
approve the invasion of Taiwan. And Australia.
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N.Z. has rejected Climate Change.
For obvious reasons (trade “implications”) there will be no official announcement.
NZ will not abandon the Paris Treaty, but will pay lip service to it.
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Unhappily, Utopia revealed that the ABC knows in exquisite detail what is now wrong with many things in Australia, but in News reports fails to give them air. Hypocrisy?
Geoff S
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Where I live in Victoria, the forecast maximum for tomorrow is 32c. The October average is 22.2, so if tomorrow’s forecast max is achieved, and is similar for other places, we can expect to hear cries like “10 degrees above average so it must be climate change caused by CO2 emissions.”
There is a problem however, that the highest max for October is 36.8C achieved on 21 Oct 2017.
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If you start with a presumption that the measurements are stochastic … then the correct method is to figure out the standard deviation from the mean and then you can describe the “abnormality” of any given day, based on how many standard deviations it is away from the mean.
You should (in theory) see roughly equal numbers of warm side abnormalities and cold side abnormalities. There’s a thing called the “normal distribution” and based on that you know roughly how many fall into each standard deviation.
Real measurements are of course not guaranteed to be stochastic nor are they necessarily normally distributed … but there’s a bunch of reasons to make that the starting point before looking further.
Given our current education system, you wonder how many people can even comprehend what a standard deviation even is. The concept of “normal” has become something of a dirty word.
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The concept of “normal” has become something of a dirty word.
The lack of meaningful bell curves described in education?
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I don’t know how the U.K. seems to lead in electing completely inept prime ministers, there seems to be no end of them?
While we, the electorate, are liable for the parties we vote into power, we do not have any say in who leads the party.
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The left is expert in gaming the system. Albo got to be PM on just 34% of primary votes. A similar thing happened in the UK. Of course there’s nothing stopping our main conservative parties doing the same thing, but they seem as incompetent as they are unprincipled.
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A little pearl of wisdom there Jo.
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Yes, DT and NF happened. But there was also a Spanish blackout which was a real eyeopener for many.
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The Nut Zero carnival float has hit the tank-stopping bollards of reality.
And, the current political elite, far from being “leaders” are still wondering if they should turn the engine off and go and see what all the noise was when their totally ridiculous carnival float came to a juddering stop.
The sceptics have been telling them for decades that it just won’t work. And, they are still ignoring the sceptics. They are still ignoring the reality. They are simply looking at the crowd and playing to the audience who have begun yelling “you can’t go on”.
But it is still the same pathetic political elite that ignored all the good advice they got for free, and instead took the advice of charlatans and money makers. And, they will continue to do the same, if they are allowed to remain in power (or get back).
Nothing has changed. They are still ignoring the good advice. They still want to pursue the policies designed to destroy our economies and societies. They are still following the next fad of the crowd with no concern for the practical realities of where it is taking us.
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Holy Ice it’s cold https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/wtf-pope-doing-here
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The Green Energy Scam and the Deceptive UN/WEF Narratives of Green Politics
https://www.globalresearch.ca/green-energy-scam-deceptive-narratives-green-politics/5886650
Let’s hope this mis-guided “green” madness based on deception does disappear!!
[Fixed link. – LVA]
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