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By Jo Nova
The world backs away slowly:
China and India were never there with Net Zero, the US was, then wasn’t, Canada appeared to be, but in order to be electable, Mark Carney dropped the country’s carbon tax the minute he was appointed PM (because his opponent, Pierre Poilievre had made repealing the federal carbon tax a central plank of his platform). The President of Mexico was a PhD in energy engineering and environmental policy, but now talks about “energy security” and boosting oil and gas production. Meanwhile New Zealand has reversed the oil and gas ban, encourages mining, and will delay the pricing of agricultural emissions by five years.
With impeccable timing, just as Australia announces a new more impossible target, Germany and France are squabbling over the EU target, and the EU will now miss the UN deadline.
European Union Faces Climate Target Delay, Risks Missing UN Deadline
By Seneca ESG
The European Union is at risk of missing a key United Nations deadline to submit updated climate targets, as internal disagreements stall progress on a proposed emissions reduction goal for 2040. The bloc had aimed to cut emissions by approximately 90% compared to 1990 levels by 2040, forming a critical milestone on the path to net-zero by 2050.
However, several member states—most notably France, Italy, and Poland—have raised concerns over the economic impact and feasibility of such an ambitious target. These objections led to the postponement of a planned Environment Council vote, originally scheduled for mid-September. As a result, EU leaders are expected to revisit the issue at a high-level summit in October.
In the interim, the EU is considering a “statement of intent” that outlines a potential emissions reduction range of 66.3% to 72.5% by 2035, relative to 1990 level.
France has been leading the way to delay the announcement, especially of the 2040 target.
Even the New York Times, Masthead for The Blob, is lamenting the collapse of the Paris agreement hopes and dreams.
There is a tiny bit of soul-searching here (but not much). Mostly this is just nostalgia.
It Isn’t Just the U.S. The Whole World Has Soured on Climate Politics.
by David Wallace-Wells, New York Times
Ten years ago this fall, scientists and diplomats from 195 countries gathered in Le Bourget, just north of Paris, and hammered out a plan to save the world. … Paris wasn’t just a brief flare of climate optimism. To many, it looked like the promise of a whole new era…
Lo, Climate Action filled a spiritual void (and you thought it was supposed to stop storms?)
But with the global war on terror long since dissipated into tragic farce and a new Cold War not yet well crystallized in the public imagination, the American-led global order seemed to be missing some sense of purpose, too. Here came the existential project of climate action to fill that semi-spiritual void, at least for some of those who felt it.
Now almost everywhere we look climate alarm has become “complacency and indifference”…
To our north, the former central banker Mark Carney — whose 2015 warnings about the financial risks from climate change helped set the stage for Paris by alarming the world’s banking elite — became prime minister of Canada in March and as his very first act in office struck down the country’s carbon tax, before storming to a landslide victory in the April election. To our south, President Claudia Sheinbaum of Mexico, a former climate scientist, has invoked the principle of “energy sovereignty” and boasted of booming oil and gas production in her country — and enjoys one of the highest approval ratings of any elected leader anywhere in the world. Almost everywhere you look, the spike of climate alarm that followed Paris has given way to something its supporters might describe as climate moderation but which critics would call complacency or indifference.
Progressives long believed that climate politics was a kind of tug of war, in which tugging harder would pull many on the other side over the line into grudging support. To some degree, that is what happened after Paris, with advocates shifting the Overton window pretty dramatically and winning meaningful gains along the way.
But it also looks a bit as if they pulled so hard they collapsed in disarray.
The author, David Wells-Wallace, spends the second half of the article pretending that renewables will still take over the grid (we’re installing so many, he says!). He doesn’t realize how little fossil fuel energy they are displacing.
Scott Adams, too, wonders where the climate hysteria has gone?
Scott Adams, the Dilbert cartoonist remarks — “the climate change hysteria has gone away.”
He quotes someone called coddled affluent professional — who has a theory on why climate change hysteria has gone. He wonders if it was all astroturfed because billionaires were funding hysteria? And theorizes that now that the climate spigot has dried up, the billionaires can’t be bothered raising hell. Adams points out that since the government took away the big money, there ought to be more climate angst about the world, not less — unless, of course, the degree of complaining was related to how much money they could get out of the issue.
— ht Tom Nelson and Climate Depot
For the moment, the last stand of pure climate hysteria left in the world is in Australia.
Some sanity is returning to the world but here in Australia the Government, with support of the “Opposition” (fake conservative Liberal Party), have an increasingly fanatical commitment to Net Zero, Net Zero prosperity that is.
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Before committing the population to nett zero, the government of the day should clearly explain which industries will not be around in 5 years time, ten years and twenty years. Policy has consequences, let the people know.
We need to know which industries/workplaces will be removed from our future. And if a policy advises that new green jobs will be created, they must name that sector, define the work and likely pay rate, name the funding source for these jobs and a timeline for when they will be released. It is no use to the country to have another 1M employed by the government, draining more funds from a dwindling supply of true taxpayers. True meaning a taxpayer that actually earns a wage outside of government funds, bringing wealth to the nation.
I could guess, that like most people, I hate seeing press releases advising that ‘NNN’ new jobs will appear because of this policy when in reality, (if they exist), they are not in Oz and also come with job closures, (which actually are in Oz). The country needs less interference from government, not more.
And an opposition is not always meant to oppose but it would be nice if they asked some of the bleeding obvious questions of the government that this site often poses. We conceive these questions, often in our personal time and never for reward, the opposition are paid, so are their advisors. When they don’t see the obvious and don’t act on it, the electorate lose faith in them and assumptions of a uniparty not only arise, it flourishes.
And by example, SSecond place Sussan will sslide further from the podium.
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Also, it annoys me when politicians, subsidy harvesters and other anti-energy activists say some new “green” “energy” project will “create” so many xxx jobs.
That’s actually a testament to the massive inefficiencies of “renewables”. They need a lot of people to maintain and then constantly replace, after their short service life, a small amount of expensive, unreliable power.
A proper coal, gas, nuclear or real hydro (not SH2) power station will last 50+ years, often considerably more and require relatively few people to produce the inexpensive, reliable, hassle free energy that built Western Civilisation. (There are nuclear power stations in the US that have been recertified to run up to 80 years.)
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There’s not much chance of anything concrete regarding jobs, industries, etc when we still cannot get an answer to why we have not seen the $275/year reduction in our power bills.
I so detest the smirk on BOBowen’s face as he spouts the ‘renewables are the cheapest form of energy’ mantra.
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Eng_Ian
There is what might be a handy graph here –
FWIW
“Gradually, Then Suddenly”
“Look at what Trudeau govt did to Canada. My God. And we re-elected the same govt. h/t
@MichaelAArouet”
https://x.com/MPelletierCIO/status/1968113715640934689
https://www.smalldeadanimals.com/2025/09/17/gradually-then-suddenly-33/
(Bupmed from “Thursday”)
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Ian,
Sportspeople, baristas, lawyers, actors,gamblers, horoscope readers,influencers, union officials and alternative medicine/cures folk will still be there although they produce no tangible product to sell for a profit.
Aircraft and car designers and builders, metallurgists, research scientists, earth science professionals are the types in future short supply. That is my depressing guess.
I use the guidelines of worthiness as those who put more original wealth into society than they take out in the lifetime.
Geoff S
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“Before committing the population to nett zero, the government of the day should clearly explain which industries will not be around in 5 years time, ten years and twenty years. Policy has consequences, let the people know.”
In the UK the question is now becoming “which political parties that pushed Nutt Zero will be around in 5,10,20 years?”
The Tories were kicked out because they had zero support, then Labour got in with very low support and that has plummeted. There is now Reform looking to replace the Tories and the ex Labour party leader is now looking to replace Labour. And, in the centre, the SDP are looking to replace the Old Liberals.
They tried to force us to commit economic suicide through Nutt Zero … they have succeeded in killing their own parties.
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I went backpacking across Europe in the mid-1990s after graduating college and felt like I had taken a time machine back to the 1980s when I crossed what once was the Iron Curtain. Everywhere I looked in eastern Germany, Croatia, Russia, Hungary and Poland was 1980s fashion and pop culture staples. Everything in the east was 10 years behind the west. That’s how Australia is beginning to look on the topic of climate change and Net Zero. Nobody takes that crap seriously anymore … except Australia.
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That’s a good analogy, we are an intellectual backwater down here. Mind you, you can understand how East European countries were lagging behind with their culture due to restrictions. The availability of access to the internet was also probably slower to roll out around that time.
What excuse to modern day Australians have? Every one of us basically has a supercomputer in their pocket or handbag and yet most of us are ignorant to the abandonment of net zero targets overseas. Too busy bingeing on 30 second TikTok videos and posting photos of their dinner perhaps?
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Why don’t these countries that are recognizing, belatedly, that their commitments to reduction targets are utterly futile and meaningless, because China and India are making no efforts to curtail their own emissions? Why not sign a joint declaration to the United Nations that states that, until China, India, Indonesia and a few others get serious, they will ignore the directive that they must state their new goals?
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Australians keep getting told we are going to be a “renewables”, solar, wind, hydrogen, Big Battery, fuel crop, whatever, “superpower” but the more we get of those things, the more the economy degenerates and the more Government debt escalates, now over $2.1 trillion total Government debt.
We aren’t becoming a superpower but a Stupid Power.
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Very soon, the way that the Marxists are going, Australia will have NO Power.
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We aren’t becoming a superpower but a Stupid Power.
You got the wrong tense on this one. This happened in our past and continues today. “We’ve become a Stupid Power”.
Sadly, I don’t see a light at the end of the tunnel, at present with our current ‘leaders’, it would likely be an oncoming train
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I see the light, Matt Canavan on the Risk Report.
“It’s a cynical attempt to spread fear and panic among people.
“Not until you get to the detail of the reports, do you read that in fact, cyclones have been decreasing in Australia, and they only have low confidence that they may increase, they may have no change, or they may increase. You don’t get that in the headlines.”
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Forget Peak Oil, under our government by lifelong communists, we have not yet reached Peak Stupidity. Not when Beijing is dictating government insane policies and everyone is making regular government trips to Beijing for instructions. For Albanese and Wong, the total is six. Trips to the US? Zero.
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Even as the CSIRO efforts to make it rain entered the half century, if you told me that one day there would be a government department of Climate and a minister for Climate, I would have been amazed. At what point did politicians take over the weather? How is that even slightly credible? Let alone massive weather taxes, government weather control departments, weather based energy (Clean energy) and weather changing finance departments and governments paying billions in annual rental on trees. No, we have not reached Peak Stupidity yet.
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And doesn’t the idea that we Australians have to act quickly to prevent our demise imply that we Australians alone control the weather in Australia, as defined by our legal borders including the Torres Strait island and Christmas island and part of Antarctica. I am flabbergasted that we have a Minister for Climate and that he controls the Climate and that he genuinely believes that with his degree in Economics he is God. Are politicians checked for sanity? Or would most fail?
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” a government department of Climate and a minister for Climate, ”
Watch carefully what happens to that Govt Dept over the next decade… Once formed, a Govt Dept is never closed down, even when completely useless.
I expect a change of name a few times, and all the same parasites will still be doing nothing useful at their retirement age.
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‘ … that Govt Dept over the next decade…’
A Hastie government may keep it going, helping the electorate to understand the causes of climate change.
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Only worth paying for that if there is a heavy emphasis on what didn’t cause climate change!
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In similar big picture scenarios, I see a great emphasis on future harms evolving from no present harms, three examples projecting more, faster, worse hurricanes than at the present level picture, plus sea level rise acceleration plus future ocean acidification. Many alleged harms are not yet present but will “certainly” turn evil any day now.
The only big global property that IS actually changing (probably) is air temperature close to surface as typically routinely measured. But, incredibly, adjusted temperatures are used as acceptable, with tiny uncertainty brackets. For Australia, the main claimed temperature rise is 1.4 deg C over the last century, but I make a good case with unadjusted, raw measurements rising by only half that, say 0.75 deg over 1925 to 2025, with 2 sigma uncertainty of +/- 1.5 deg C.
But then, I have worked in science applications where failure to achieve acceptable actual accuracy and reproducibility goals causes you to be accountable and facing the sack. Geoff S
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Our Dear Leader communist Albanese just spent five days with Emperor Xi, his second trip as PM, but hasn’t met TRUMP yet and might not ever. TRUMP doesn’t like stupid, weak, clueless people.
Labor Party luminaries Bob Carr and Dictator Dan Andrews were in China two weeks ago to participate in a Chinese military parade and Dictator Andrews had himself photographed with some of the world’s most evil comrade dictators. And they were both supposedly there as private citizens. What private citizens mix with dictators? I am guessing they were there as official Australian Government representatives whilst the Government was able to maintain “plausible deniability” that they weren’t official. The Chinese aren’t likely to know or care whether or not they’re official, they will be seen as such regardless.
On Dictator Dan’s last trip to China as state Premier (around 27th March 2023), he refused to allow media to accompany him. And those were the Lamestream Media who fully supported him and ask no difficult questions. What the hell was he doing? And then he resigned (announced 26th Sep 2023, effective 27th) not long after with only one days notice (not that he was missed).
Most recently Victoriastan Premier Jacinta Allan has just spent a whole week in China, still there I believe.
Who, indeed, is calling the shots?
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Albo may well be getting a meeting with Trump soon. Here he is dealing with one of our ABC journalists…
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DD_XqU6sK_U
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The only word to describe what is happening in Australia is lunacy!!!!
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Imagine how much more commited to Net Zero prosperity Australia’s under 16’s will be once the social media ban takes place.
They will only have their commie “teachers” as sources of information, they won’t be able to seek out alternative points of view such as on YouTube, climate sceptic groups on Farcebook etc..
I guess that’s all part of the plan…
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David,
What would happen if the Tech giants told Albo that in view of the government’s threats of penalties ,fines , legislative barriers etc they’d decided to terminate their services to any Australian requirements, be it tech back up, tech facilities, communication aids, geo navigation ….. the list must be 1000 times longer than what I’ve mentioned.
What kind of disruption to Australia & what’s left of its economy would occur.
Just thinking!!
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I think it’s a great idea Graham. These companies will be working under the threat of $50 million fines for accidental breaches of age verification or censorship rules.
That’s a high risk business environment, apart from the fact that Australia is no longer an attractive place to do business anyway.
It would be easier for companies just to cease doing business here.
The implications of these new rules are far more profound than most people think.
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“ The implications of these new rules are far more profound than most people think.”
At least most people think far further into the future than our profoundly thick political class whose vision of policies extend no further than 15 minutes into the future .
“ poor fella, our country “😢😢
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DM,
Count me as agreeing with you about a poor business environment and a serious consequence.
How can our “leaders” not comprehend this? They cannot be leaders if they know it yet continue to make it worse and worse. Geoff S
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Social media bans implemented by Boomers and Gen Xers won’t stop Gen Z and Alpha from using social media. Especially not when VPNs are still available. They’ll just change their location from Australia to America before they log on.
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I have seen the topic of VPNs previously discussed.
ISPs and/or Government can block traffic to VPNs or make it illegal with enormous $50 million fines like they are threatening social media with.
And I’m not sure of the relevance of Boomers and other generations in your comment. Boomers I know are all pro-freedom.
I would hope Elon Musk can circumvent censorship for Australians by offering US registered Starlink accounts. (He hasn’t said he would, I am just thinking that might be a way to do it.)
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It’s comment on the age of the people who vote on and write the laws, not a condemnation of those generations. To me, all this talk about banning or censoring social media sounds very much like the PMRC hearings in the 1980s over graphic song lyrics and video content. That too, was a bunch of older ‘squares’ trying to suppress youth culture for their own good. Hopefully, someone stands up for Gen Z or Alpha the way Dee Snider stood up for Gen Xers.
As C.S. Lewis said …
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Steve,
Re what comes out of modern media, what is the real cost over the last 3 generations of (a) an immense increase in media availability and use coupled with (b) unrelenting, dominant presentation for “entertainment” of murder, violence, rape, suicide by guns, knives, poisons etc coupled with (C) direct and indirect pressure to believe that taking illegal and/or dangerous drugs is kinda socially ok, try it and like it, wink wink, while you go about your murderous rampage as taught in entertaining TV.
Geoff S
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C’mon lads & ladies, where’s yer fightin’ ANZAC spirit – your enemy isn’t in Europe nor the land of the rising sun anymore, it’s in Canberra, a 100% totally artificial ‘ACT’ of a government [control/state].
Perhaps the 2015-2025 Paris Argument has suffered the curse of the 21st century: inbuilt obsolescence. May sanity prevail… and pigs may fly.
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But when your gubbermint is run by ideologues and zealots and the general population is supine what hope? I could give a unpalatable answer.
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Become ungovernable through large scale non-compliance. Governments cannot function without the consent of the governed.
Brits have started to do this, by defying their government and hanging Saint George’s flags over the place, or by vandalizing ultra-low emissions zone (ULEZ) cameras, or by protesting at migrant hotels.
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What else would we expect when we are ‘governed’ by dumb and dumber. We have been hobbled by things like the Lima Declaration for 50 years via Gough Whitlam to the totally absurd mob now in Canberra. One thing consistent about Labor is their groveling subservience to things destructive to our nation. Not only with energy either, the support for terrorism, giving away our sovereignty to WHO etc.
Seems like the well being and prosperity of our country is the last thing on their agenda.
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And here I am thinking that even Greta is starting to look hot.
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Shudda gone to Specsavers…
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You bet I should – but it came to me in a nightmare
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You can get tablets for that.
Just ask big pharma, (for another round of smack).
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I have decided to go into rehab, as Big Pharma will finish me off with one of their witches concoctions – just like they did to the millions they killed in 2021
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Maybe not!
My wife and I both did. Got 2 pair of specs each, none of them useable.
And they were very keen to book me in to get my eyelids raised. That didn’t happen either.
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They are probably in cahoots with Big pharma too.
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Last night at 7pm across the AEMO grid, electricity supply came from wind 10%, solar zero, batteries 4%.
What kept the lights on? Coal 57%, Gas 16%, Hydro 13%.
Net Zero? Total madness.
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If you are critiquing nett zero (not total zero) wouldnt you have look at the nett production for the day?
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And therein lies the whole point.
That whole renewables thing is ….. how much renewables delivered across the whole day.
So, yesterday, the whole of day – 577GWH total generation/consumption, at an average of 24041MW with renewables delivering a humungously whopping 49.5%, oh frabjous day! Hydro made up 6.2%, so renewables of choice 43.3%
6.50PM – 26978MW with renewables delivering 22.3%, and take away Hydro, 12.5%, then that leaves renewables of choice at 9.8%, and wind was 9.6%.
So then, what unique thing happened yesterday at 6.50PM?
Why, that was when everyone, virtually the whole of Australia, actually ….. WANTED their access to power, everyone now home from work and school, and in their homes, and firing up ALL of their power consumption, you know, the evening meal, something only a few years old, umm, you know, the WHOLE of time of civilised life on the Planet. (and our betters tell us we need to spread out our power consumption across the whole day, and also the charging cost regime is charging the highest at Peak time, a totally and utterly captive consumption cohort, everyone!!)
WHEN PEOPLE ACTUALLY NEED ELECTRICAL POWER
And phew, thank heavens Daylight Savings Time Starts soon eh! That means that Queensland’s Peak Power time is now an hour later, so it spreads out and slightly lowers that overall Peak, eh. (Huh! Ever thought of that?)
Oh, and at 4AM when everyone’s tucked up tight in bed – 19436MW (80.84% of that daily average) Renewables 30.2%, renewables of choice (all of it wind) 15.7%
So, what we actually need is not for renewables to make up X% overall, we need them to make up 6.50PM Maximum Peak, every single day. Hmm! Isn’t that after Sunset?
Yeah! Good luck with that, eh!
Tony.
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Tony, when you look at this emissions ‘target’ practically do you know if they count wind as name plate and translate it into tons of CO2 saved?
Or do they simply count reduction on coal and gas power? Because coal and gas are still 3/4 of all power generated. And when you add hydro, 86%. I cannot see how they can achieve their targets if they are counting only the 17% in Wind and Solar.
Of course there is a reduction of CO2 by switching from coal to gas, as the Americans achieved simply with fracking (which is constitutionally illegal in Victoria as is use of Coal Seam Gas).
In other words is the target a scam, counting nameplate as actual? Which would be very tempting.
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Clever, aren’t they?
They use Nameplate, and if that Wind Nameplate was the filthiest dirtiest largest coal consuming equivalent, then that’s how much CO2 (they artfully say) is saved. You know, as if they have closed down that equivalent of coal fired power, or taken those cars off the road. They haven’t It’s ….. ‘just sayin’.
It is rare, (in fact, virtually never) that ANY industrial wind plant ever reaches it’s total Nameplate power generation at any single five minute point in time, let alone continuously.
The current total for wind Nameplate across the whole of the AEMO is 13,460MW, and the highest it has ever been was during ONE five minute time period at 10.10PM on Wednesday 27 August 2025, when it reached 8598MW at a Capacity Factor of 63.88% ….. for five minutes. The average over the last 12 Months is 3600MW.
Tony.
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In which case all calculations on Net Zero are wrong. While politicians debate numbers, their calculations are scientifically wrong, deliberate and massive exaggerations. But everyone goes along with it presumably because no one really cares given that it’s all fake science.
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What I mean is that even Consumer Protection laws would consider this fraud. We Australians are paying heavily for CO2 emission reduction and the government is calculating and legislating CO2 targets, but the basic calculation wilfully exaggerates the amount of reduction x3!
“A commitment to reduce greenhouse gas emissions to 43% below 2005 levels by 2030, implemented as a single-year point target.” But what has been achieved for tens of billions of our dollars is likely 1/3 of what is claimed if I follow your statement.
“In the year to December 2024: annual net greenhouse gas emissions were 446.4 million tonnes of carbon dioxide equivalent (Mt CO2-e). This is 27% below emissions in the year to June 2005 (the baseline year for Australia’s 2030 target under the Paris Agreement).”
If what you are saying is correct, the 27% is wrong. It may be as low as say 10%. This would be gold in the hands of a good political debater on a point of order.
There is no hope of achieving 43% by 2030 if we are only at 10%. And the reporting of reduction of emissions is CO2 equivalent of baseplate.
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Metrics
• Net greenhouse gas emissions
• Renewable share of electricity generation
Renewable share of electricity generation
In the 2023-24 financial year, 35% of electricity generated was from renewable energy, an increase from 8.2% in 2003-04.
The increase was driven by electricity generated from wind (11%, up from 0.3% in 2003-04), and solar (17%, up from less than 0.1% in 2003-04).
and what you are showing is that wind at night was 9.6% without hydro. Hydro, wind, solar. At night just hydro and wind.
So how do they get a figure of 35% of electricity generated? And how much of that was wind and solar, given we have not built hydro in a long time?
Tony do you have time to look at these figures?
This is looking like official fraud unless all the wind is coming from South Australia.
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Total power generation across the whole year, 365 days, up until midnight last night, so, real time here, and this is just the AEMO data, not whole of Australia like your link, and note that your link is one year behind actual data.
217,112GWH.
Total Renewables – 41.7% made up of:
Industrial Solar Plants – 7.8%
Industrial Wind Plants – 14.7%
Rooftop Solar Power – 12.9%
Hydroelectric Plants – 6.2%
When it comes to Batteries:
Power to the grid – 0.5%
Power from the grid – 0.7% (batteries charging, using power from the grid)
So, batteries are nett power consumers. That’s charging power of 1485GWH or 4068MWH a day. They charge up usually in the early AM and at Lunch time, when the cost of power is at its absolute low for the day, and then sell that power at Peak Power time of day when the cost of power is at its absolute peak
See how nothing ever adds up. It does when you use the actual MWH, percentages are rounded.
Also of note here is that total power generation/consumption for the full year Jan1 to Dec31, all of 2024, was 214,043GWH, so there’s an actual increase of 3TWH in that real time data, and that equates to an extra 8408MWH a day, and actually, that’s a pretty big increase.
Tony.
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And all those wonderfully excitingly high percentages for those renewables of choice are totally and utterly meaningless, unless, as I highlighted in 7.1.1 above, they can supply 100% of the daily Peak every single day for the rest of time.
Tony.
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Yarpos,
Did you forget the /s tag?
With regard to the average supply vs meeting the actual demand.
Imagine how happy a household would be if they shared a car with 4 other households.
In total the car is required for 20 hours a day. So clearly one car per four households work, they each get 6 hours of access and on average only need 5. Okay.
Unfortunately, PEAK demand, in the morning and evening run to work, drop the kids at school, etc, Everyone needs a car.
And that’s why you don’t look at averages with regard to power supply, you look at demand. Your minimum generation capacity must ALWAYS exceed your instantaneous demand. Averages just don’t work.
This is a concept that Bowen will NEVER understand. In his bean counting world, he only needs to add up the demand and supply column at the end of quarter, (as per GST documentation). Anything that surges or fails between the reporting periods is invisible to him.
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If only the Left hadn’t started their war against science, reason, logic and Western Civilisation itself, we would be living in an age of unprecedented prosperity and freedom.
Once the Left took over the schools sometime in the 1960’s that was the beginning of the end. It was part of the strategy of the German communist, Rudy Dutschke, who in 1967 devised his “der lange Marsch durch die Institutionen” (long march through the institutions) to gradually subvert freedom and free enterprise in the West. He succeeded, except there is now fightback in the US under the leadership of TRUMP and the late Charlie Kirk.
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It may be good to hear that much of the developed world is “backing away” from the Net Zero drama, but it’s still sad that the Australian Clime Slime continues its destructive action.
TheManMadeGlobalWarming oppression was
always designed to be the equivalent of
World War Three where the developed nations would be smashed and robbed into an impotent state.
The only question that remains is where does Australia’s Climate Elite retire to when it’s all done and dusted.
The UN in New York, I suspect, will be shut down and moved to South America but there’s a problem: can Penny and Dan and Julie and our president Albanese learn the dominant language there.
Espanol anyone?
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Or for the most populous Country in South America, Brazil, (far and away) then that language would be Portuguese.
Tony.
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Thanks Tony: and there’s even one spot there which was settled by a Welsh community.
But the big question is where will Malcolm and his $444 million go to when Sydney Harbour foreshore becomes uncomfortable?
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KK
More on that Welsh community
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Y_Wladfa
I spent some time in Brasil. Portuguese is a shandy of Spanish and French (even uses the “c cedilla”. So a conversation can be manipulated so that it is comprehendible to a Spanish speaker – or not.
I think they’d handle the UN.
As can be done in English by using the Anglo Saxon side or the French side. IIRC the great examples of English oratory used the Anglo Saxon side.
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So why would we want to agree to their unreliable, toxic net zero madness at a cost of trillions of $ and have to replace the toxic mess every 15 to 20 years?
Can anyone tell us where the profit is and how do we save our environments before Labor, Greens and Teals destroy thousands of klms for a guaranteed zero return?
We must use only reliable BASELOAD energy because it works and is obviously much cheaper than Labor’s toxic mess.
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All this paints a rosy picture for Blackout’s bid to host COP31 in Adelaide. South Australia now leads the world in grid electricity prices and has demonstrated it can run 100%y on wind and solar for days at a time, even exporting some to Victoria.
However look closely and you see that the grid is actually in its end game. The majority of households in South Australia are not exposed to grid prices. They have rejected the high costs and now many make their own electricity. The penetration of rooftops in the last decade is remarkable:
https://explore.openelectricity.org.au/energy/sa1/?range=all&interval=1M&view=discrete-time&group=Detailed
Now able to supply the entire lunchtime demand from rooftops. The available demand for the large SA solar farms is now very low and declining. Grid scale wind is also being economically curtailed through the middle of the day. Heavy industry has abandoned the State. Those that remain are on government sup[port.
So Blackout may parade SA as the world leader in “renewables” but do not look behinds the facade.
The problem for Australia is that most of the heavy industry has gone and the rest is on government support. Energy intensive businesses wishing to establish in Australia must look at making their own electricity. The only way that can be done is to have royalty free coal and/or gas that is not exposed to international pricing.
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It would be hilarious if there was a blackout during COP31 but I bet all venues will have massive diesel generator backup.
Of more concern (not that it bothers me), is where are they going to find luxury 5/6/7 star accommodation and private jet parking for 65,000+ of some of the world’s most repulsive professional “climate change” parasites?
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Albanese has already limited participation to 30,000. And they will not be the high flyers. The easy money has evaporated so the globalist blood suckers have no attraction. Of course the UN will be trying hard to keep their end up although climate ambition is dead apart from China’s with strings.
I expect China will help fund the event because it is a major marketing opportunity. And with Victoria now signed on to B&R it will be a good opportunity for China to establish their credentials as an infrastructure developer to a “modern” economy. All their pollution belching industry half a hemisphere away and out of site and the pristine surrounds of South Australia to WINE and dine. Expect Victoria to present a session on partnering with China.
The big embarrassment could very well be the death of AUKUS and the SA industry set up to deliver nucla’ subs. I expect even UK will have reservations about handing over technology to a country so closely aligned with China,.
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Rick,
At the King’s welcome dinner to the Trumps, Charles mentioned the AUKUS collaboration as an important basis for 3 historically close countries sharing and growing leading technology (my summary, not his actual words).
President Trump did not seem to me to visibly react.
Combine this with his failure a few weeks ago to remember AUKUS in a press gathering and we might wonder if Trump really likes AUKUS or wants it demolished.
Maybe I’m over reacting, but I’d prefer to see Trump in his usual effusive mood saying like “Yes, AUKUS is great, we like it, it brings together top specialists from our close friendly countries for the benefit of all of us. Great people, these AUKUS people, I know some of them well and they are great people, really smart.”
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Adelaide has at least two diesel-gas turbine generators installed in a former General Motors Holden factory in the suburb of Elizabeth, and other small diesel generators strategically located.
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Yes, I’ve noticed several around Stirling in the hills.
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“..unless, of course, the degree of complaining was related to how much money they could get out of the issue.”
The theme song for most climate alarmists, especially those in the political back rooms and the institutions, could well have been an old British heavy metal anthem:
It was mostly greed.
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Climate hysteria and the road to Climate Armageddon is still omnipresent on planet Bowen.
…and, now I think of it, Plsnet Milliband.
Britain is even more barking that Australia, hard though that may be for us to believe. Though they do have some nuclear…
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If they shutdown nuclear then you will know they have passed the Bowen Horizon of energy stupidity.
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yarpos,
Maybe discussion in Britain next 2 days will cause PM Starmer to show his hand on national energy future plans in talks with Trump. Interesting little time ahead. Geoff S
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You mean … like Germany for example?
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Again, why does Labor want to waste trillions of $, when the climate today is the safest and most benign in Human history?
Just look up the data and note deaths from extreme weather events are now the lowest since records began.
Even much lower than 60 years ago and 5.2 billion MORE people at risk today and average life expectancy has now soared to 73 years around the world.
Why can’t Labor just spend a few minutes online and save us trillions of $ of debt and more Human misery for many decades ahead? What’s their problem?
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Agan, here’s the global death rates from extreme weather events etc since 1900 and note the huge drop since 1960.
And this takes about 5 minutes to look up OWI Data and proves we have no need to waste trillions of $ for a guaranteed zero return on their nutty zero investment.
https://ourworldindata.org/grapher/natural-disaster-death-rates?country=Wildfire~Flood~Extreme+weather~Extreme+temperature~Drought
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If they shutdown nuclear then you will know they have passed the Bowen Horizon of energy stupidity.
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You can say that again Yarpos!
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There was an opportunity for an orderly weaning off fossil fuels but that is gone now. Reductions now have to be deep and fast to keep temperatures below +2ºC of pre-industrial. The political will is gone though. We need to prepare for a > 3ºC world and the geographic and environmental dislocation that will occur. The older, more selfish, politicians will have died of old age before the full effects are evident. You can’t beat the laws of physics.
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The Minoans, Egyptians, Romans and Medievals never complained about their episodes of natural warming. In fact Civilisation thrived at those times. Why should we be complaining, even if claims of global warning were true and not an artefact of manipulated data? Civilisation loves warmth. And any claimed increase in temperature is nothing compared to daily, seasonal or year to year natural variation as the world moves through its various complex cycles.
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It’s not difficult to raise a counter argument that civilisation has tended to arise in cooler climates with consistent precipitation and growth seasons. Good luck with that in a rapidly changing climate that homo sapiens has never experienced before. Ye,s we have superior technology but we also much tighter restrictions on immigration. How many million people can Tasmania support?
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Notice the key part of that is “and growth seasons”. Britain and Europe is more productive and sustaining having come out of the cold of the circa 17th century. And that was only 1 deg less than your apparent ideal temperature of the 20th century.
All of the habitable cooler climates can warm 3 deg and still be notably cooler climates relative to the warm climates.
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‘ … civilisation has tended to arise in cooler climates …’
Human resilience, maybe, there is a PhD in it. Rule of thumb, cooler climates are dry and cause the collapse of most civilisations.
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In the UK a lot of fresh fruit and vegetables come from Spain and other countries much warmer than the UK. I remember being grateful for the fact that we didn’t have to live on a cold country turnip diet. Thankyou Spain, Italy, Greece, Cyprus, Turkey, Israel and many other lovely warm countries for your delicious fresh sun-ripened healthy fruit and vegetables. They are a real blessing to cold Northern countries.
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See 7.1.1
Tony.
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You can prepare for a >3 world by moving from Hobart to Brisbane. Yes you can’t beat the laws of physics: atmospheric warming cannot heat oceans, it’s the other way around. 0.04% CO2 in the atmosphere cannot match water vapour in terms of storing latent heat.
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Simon, many people have stopped listening to the fanatics.
Scaremongering and exaggerations about the climate are so common place that even the believers are turning their back.
A mate of mine is a Greens voter, and he is proud to say so. “The oceans are boiling” was the straw that broke the camels back for him. He wanted to believe so much but as he said, there have been so many predictions, so many fails.
This scam is like the medicine man of 1800s America.
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Simon the Royal Society’s study found that it would take thousands of years to see a drop in temperature AFTER we hit net zero.
So would that be in 3025 or 4025 or 5025 or …?
And how many Quadrillions of $ would that cost? Just more laughable lunacy for you to think about.
https://royalsociety.org/news-resources/projects/climate-change-evidence-causes/question-20/
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It takes millennia for the atmosphere to equilibrate after a sudden spike in greenhouse gas levels. That’s why it’s a good idea to let that happen 🙄
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The Hunga Tonga eruption produced a temperature spike, caused by a greenhouse gas in the stratosphere.
https://www.drroyspencer.com/wp-content/uploads/UAH_LT_1979_thru_August_2025_v6.1_20x9-scaled.jpg
The effect was short lived.
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Average global surface temperature in 1883 would have been 14.3 to 14.5 c had it not been for Krakatoa, not 13.7c. Von Hann showed average global temperature in 1908 was 14.4 c, verified by modern meridional analysis (Kramm et al, Natural Science 2020, Volume 12) Most modern warming happens at night, indicative of urban heat island effect. In reality, any real warming is much less than 1c and you would see this if you just care to look at the real data instead of blindly consuming the alarmist fodder for the masses.
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You need to up the ante. The 2C is in the rear vision. Greenland plateau now up 10C in January from 1950 level and even more from 1850 level.
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‘ … a > 3ºC world …’
I dispute that number, it would be warmer than the Holocene Climate Optimum.
‘Our simulations indicate that expansion of Northern Hemisphere vegetation 9000 and 6000 years ago warms Earth’s surface by ~0.8° and 0.7°C, respectively, producing a better match with proxy-based reconstructions. Our results suggest that vegetation change is critical for modeling Holocene temperature evolution and highlight its role in driving a mid-Holocene temperature. (Thompson et al 2022)
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So the sensible decision would be to abandon mitigation, and focus every available resources on adaptation? Forget about wind, solar and batteries, build baseload power plants to operate airconditioning all year round, build levees to control floods, dams to retain floodwater for use during future droughts.
Do you agree?
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But…but…but…I seem to recall Tim Flannery stating that the rains that fall would never fill the dams. ergo, no dams needed…according to him anyway.
This was just another apocalyptic prediction that was/is wrong…of course.
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Simon,
We hard scientists do not try to beat the laws of physics. We seek to refine and better then, because we formulated them. Improvement is a normal work in progress. Sad that you are not a hard scientist, though with effort you could make the transition. Geoff S
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In Canada, it’s now called sustainable mining, but at the bottom line it’s jobs, jobs, jobs!
Canada to fast-track major mining projects
Meanwhile, oil production in Canada is going amazingly well.
Our World in Data, historical oil production of Canada.
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Whoa! That’s quite an increase in Canadian oil production!
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Everything about these Climate agreements is false. Here I was thinking the Paris agreement was actually made in Paris , except it wasn’t. Technically it should be called the Le Bourget agreement.
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Correct. Le Bourget is its own distinct town with its own government and not part of Paris.
I guess they chose that town because of its ample private jet parking.
According to Gulag AI:
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The Canadian Carbon tax was not “dropped” … it was MERELY set to zero. It can be set to any value at a moment’s notice. There is a big difference between eliminating the tax, and setting the value to zero.
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Meanwhile Albanese is spending $1.1 billion of taxpayer money to try and grow biofuels as diesel replacements.
Has anyone in the Government worked out how much land will be needed and where? And presumably the land will need to be irrigated as well if you want reliable crops. Heavily fertilised in addition to that.
In addition, as it comes down to a choice of food or fuel, how much will food exports be curtailed?
I am not aware of any biofuel projects anywhere that operate without taxpayer subsidies.
As usual, this will be yet another Labor Government disaster.
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PM announces billions in spending to reach 62-70pc range for 2035 emissions reduction
Anthony Albanese says emissions need to be reduced in three key sectors: electricity, transport and industry;
Treasurer Jim Chalmers claims an ‘orderly transition’ will add $2 trillion to the Australian economy by 2050.
Lunatics. Or enemies of Australia. Or both.
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Both!
Plus other descriptors that can’t be used here in public.
In a civilized world their behaviour ticks every box to qualify as ugly, improper and beneath contempt.
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Let me translate the politics.
$8 Billion promise to the US to help build Nuclear submarines in South Australia on the never ever. To pretend to keep the AUS USA alliance
$8 Billion to China tomorrow for 10-20 year lifespan windmills and solar panels we don’t need, so they can build their own submarines and gunships. Or just paying for our freedom. Like Danegeld.
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I honestly don’t think Albanese or any of his goons have any idea of the amount of money $1 billion represents and they also wouldn’t be able to write it in numerals. (I’m not kidding.)
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But every Aussie is going to be $36000 better off under Net Zero, Jo! AnAl and Dim Jim wouldn’t lie!!!
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It has done its dirty work, cost zillions and driven common sense into exile. Probably reinventing as some other farce to plague humanity.
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Half of all cars sold before 2035 will have to be electric to meet targets.
Which means 5 million Chinese electric cars. So $300Billion to China over ten years, $30Billion a year tax for electric cars for which we do not have the electricity.
Don’t tell me this is to save the plant.
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It will be interesting to see if the Labor party dares pass a law forcing people to buy electric cars. The way they do it at the moment is to stop retailers from selling cars unless they meet their quota of electric cars, now one electric car for each petrol car they sell. At what point will people rebel. And would Sussan Ley agree with legislating electric cars anyway? I suspect so. China needs to dump all those electric cars they cannot sell in the US and Europe. Or they send more gunboats.
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66.3%
A sciency number for the week. Not 60%, not 66%, but 66.3. I guess 66.2981 was abandoned in the editing.
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I spent a couple of TV hours with King Charles welcoming President Trump & First Lady to a State Dinner of about 80 guests.
Two takeaways. Help needed from readers.
1. Were any Australians at the Dinner? Can’t find a guest list. Best count is one person, Rupert Murdoch, doubtfully Aussie now. Has our government, our ambassador to US, our 4 corners reporter etc combined to make Aust on the nose in US in favour of China? Dangerous tactics? Wanted by majority of voters?
2. Failed to see any fat person in the 80 guests. Is a thin figure part of the Beautiful People look? Or are these guests mostly rich and/or bright enough to accept and practise best medical/health/diet advice? But plenty of fine wine and pricey old cognac was on the menu. I wonder what % of the guests were regular users of cocaine etc compared to general public. Some of them, Princess Kate, Charles, Queen Horseface had post-Covid cancers. How are wealth and longevity correlated asks me the 84 yo pensioner non drinker non smoker non druggie. Geoff S
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Geoff
On # 2
Must have been a shortage of diplomats then?
The old definition of a diplomat was “A person too little to fight and too fat to run”
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I was just thinking about looking up longevity by income level.
Then I thought, the stats on COVID and vaccines is obscured by gobbledygoop, what’s the point.
I’ve said before, I think we are facing an iatrogenic decline in life expectancy.
And will take two decades for the true stats to get out.
Just look at how the public is purposely misled on historical weather patterns and SLR.
The people noticing what is in front of the eyes, will be called anti-science conspiracy theorists.
And what the Pandemic Ghouls are doing to RFK Jr.
One of their own.
Plus, after seeing the plethora of doctors and nurses, and the general educated elite celebrating the murder of Charlie Kirk, and being a MAGA looking old white guy, and after COVID, the medical system appears potentially dangerous territory for my kind.
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FWIW – a different explosion!
“Heartwarming: Watch Madison County Destroy 7 Wind Turbines with Explosives”
https://youtu.be/btT4QcwE6tk
https://wattsupwiththat.com/2025/09/17/heartwarming-watch-madison-county-destroy-7-wind-turbines-with-explosives/
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FWIW
Swaying with the words?
“CROWING, YES, APPLAUDING, SURE, DANCING WITH JOY, SOME, OWNING CONSERVATIVES, ABSOLUTELY, BUT NO CHEERING: MSNBC Reporter: No One on the Internet Is Cheering About Charlie Kirk’s Assassination.”
“MSNBC Reporter: No One on the Internet Is Cheering About Charlie Kirk’s Assassination”
https://townhall.com/tipsheet/mattvespa/2025/09/17/msnbc-reporter-no-one-on-the-internet-is-cheering-about-charlie-kirks-assassination-n2663454
Via https://instapundit.com/745447/#disqus_thread
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FWIW
“WE NEED ANSWERS: I still haven’t read a single investigative journalism deep-dive on why every country in the Anglosphere, Eastern Europe, and Japan all simultaneously pulled the “More Immigration” lever so hard it apparently snapped off right around late 2021.”
https://x.com/mmjukic/status/1968372615946584447
Via https://instapundit.com/745413/#disqus_thread
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Someone wanted to empty the middle east?
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FWIW
“Validation, You Say”
“From Australia, more thing-that-never-happens news.”
“Trans-Identified Male Pedophile Who Raped His Own Daughter Now Being Held In Australian Women’s Prison”
https://reduxx.info/trans-identified-male-pedophile-who-raped-his-own-daughter-now-being-held-in-australian-womens-prison/
https://thompsonblog.co.uk/2025/09/validation-you-say.html
Via https://www.smalldeadanimals.com/2025/09/18/validation-you-say/
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FWIW
“Brilliant”
“Modern left wing technocrat”
https://www.michaelsmithnews.com/2025/09/brilliant.html
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‘World must act on emissions as well, insists PM.
‘Unveiling the government’s 2035 emissions reduction target on Thursday, the PM appeared to cast aside a suggestion Australia was doing too much on emissions reduction while the rest of the world was lagging behind.’ (Oz)
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Damned if you do and damned if you don’t.
‘The announcement prompted immediate political blowout, with the Liberals rejecting the “economy-wrecking” 2035 target and the Greens labelling Labor’s target range as a “betrayal” of the planet.
“We think we’ve got the sweet spot,” the prime minister, Anthony Albanese, said.
“There will be criticism from some who say it’s too high, there’s some who will say that it’s too low.” (Guardian)
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