“Shocked”: Far right climate deniers get more votes than any other party

By Jo Nova

Everywhere there are free and fair elections and a politically biased media, people will be shocked.

What does “far right” even mean when it applies to a quarter of the population?

Netherlands Flag

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It means name-calling is embedded in our vocabulary. Geert Wilder’s party has won 37 seats in the Netherlands election with 24% of the vote — more than any other party. There are 150 seats in total in the Dutch Parliament, so it’s not clear what the final winning coalition will look like. What is clear is that environmentalists hate it:

‘4 years of climate change denial’: Dutch environmental groups react to far-right election swing

by Ian Smith, EuroNews

Environmental groups have expressed shock and promised climate action in response to Dutch election results. Wednesday night saw the historic victory of the far right Party for Freedom (PVV).

“We are shocked,” Extinction Rebellion Netherlands says. “This outcome will likely mean a rollback of climate measures, new fossil investments, exclusion of marginalised groups, and more.”

If far-right applies to a quarter of the population, and the Greens appeal to a much smaller slice, it’s only fair they be called the extreme-left, yes?.

How many votes is it worth when a party is gifted a “label” by the media day in and day out. How many people would have voted for a “Centre Right” party who would not even consider “the far right”? It could be a 2 – 5% advantage right there.

Left leaning players cheat and deceive with language every day, and the Right let them get away with it.

We  need to fight for our language, for consistent words.

So let’s mock the partisan reporters who keep calling the center Right, the far-right. “We know which way you vote”. Ask them to define their terms.

There’s a trend across Europe — Victor Orban (Hungary), Geiorgia Meloni (Italy), Sweden, Finland…

Geert Wilders’ shock victory in the Netherlands creates fear as Europe eyes another hard-right win

By Bruno Waterfield, The Australian

Once renowned for tolerance, stability, liberalism and its pro-European credentials, one of the EU’s wealthiest nations is now a seething hotbed of discontent.

If it were only the Netherlands that would be bad enough, but most of the discontents and political trends that have propelled Wilders to victory are writ large across the EU.

Congratulations to Geert Wilders and his team, and to Javier Milei who won 56% of the vote in Argentina this week too. In the latter’s case, he’s not just “far right” but fully anti-science, according to Nature —  the science journal that appears to think science is defined by government funding, not by evidence.

‘Extremely worrying’: Argentinian researchers reel after election of anti-science president

Martín De Ambrosio & Fermín Koop, Nature

As part of his plan to address the country’s economic crisis, Javier Milei has promised to slash research funding and shut down key science agencies.

The result brings much uncertainty for Argentina’s science community. Milei and other members of his party, La Libertad Avanza (Liberty Advances), have pledged to shut down or possibly privatize the country’s main science agency, the National Scientific and Technical Research Council (CONICET), as well as to eliminate the ministries of health, science and the environment.

So 56% of Argentian voters are climate skeptics:

‘A massive setback’

Milei has also called climate change is a “socialist hoax”, comments that have stirred concern in the science community. “His position is typical of a denier,” says Matilde Rusticucci, an atmospheric scientist at the University of Buenos Aires

Good to know next time someone says a skeptic is unelectable.

–Flag photo: Dutchgamer(Yusuf Babayusuf)

 

 

 

 

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131 comments to “Shocked”: Far right climate deniers get more votes than any other party

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    Bucky

    Far Right to the Left means Patriotic which they, as Globalists, consider to be a derogatory term.

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      revo of gong

      ‘Far right’ to someone who is far left is just a description of how far to the right the person is relative to the person making the comment.

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        Steve4192

        ^ This

        That’s how Donald Trump wins 45% of the vote and is labeled ‘far right’.

        That’s how Trump’s immigration policies like ‘Remain in Mexico’ have near 70% approval and are labeled ‘far right’.

        It’s also how idiotic ideas like ‘Defund the Police’ and ‘Abolish ICE’ get labeled as serious, mainstream policies despite almost nonexistent public support.

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        davefromweewaa

        Right wing is what lefties call normal people.
        Out here, we’re so far right we only believe in two genders…maybe three if you count steers and wethers!

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          Mantaray

          dave. Easiest way to determine if a person is a Leftist is to know if they pay any net tax on an income (which is not derived from govt).Nothing else really needs to be known or asked.

          Those working directly for govt, or receiving non-age-pension benefits / allowances from govt are almost all Leftists. Those living off subsidies…or contracts…..from govt will be overwhelmingly Leftists. The age-pensioners may still think / vote like they did when they paid net tax on incomes they actually WORKED for.

          Because Leftists are essentially infantile: never grew up (see how their “views” so neatly align with 12 year-olds on all manner of stupidity from CO2-phobia to a reverence for mass-rapists and baby-burners in Gaza) they “feel”, rather than think.

          This is manifested in obvious Daddy / Mummy issues, where Govt plays both roles!

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            You were accurate until you got to Gaza.
            Seems you then fall into the same old trap of believing the propaganda MSM have fed to us for 40 plus years.
            Do some research and have a good think about what you discover. Maybe start with the Balfour Declaration and see how you would feel if that had been applied to your ancestors and wherever they live?

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            John PAK

            Mantaray, I find these generalised labels mis-leading. The old “left/right” thing is very 20ieth C. It’s a bit like a book with a glossy paper cover. You really need to turn to the Contents page first.

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      Frederick Pegler

      For most of the media ‘far right’ is the middle – which is about as far right, as they can see from their position.

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    Curious George

    Anti science .. is Mr. Milei against physics? biology? chemistry?
    He may be against gender science and political science .. what an ugly weed field has science become.

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      Klem

      In Canada the CBC referred to Milei as a far-right libertarian, and referred to his defeated opponent as a moderate economist. I laughed so hard my ribs hurt.

      (The sad part is that Canadians believe every word the CBC tells them)

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    Stag Clima – Climate of Error

    Strategic Threat Assessment Group2
    Contents

    1 Cover: Henri Vidal, Cain after killing Abel (1896), Jardin des Tuileries, Paris, France
    2 Context: The East gains much by the West’s economic hara-kiri in pursuing net zero
    3 Climate scientists’ error of physics: They misunderstood feedback mathematics
    4 Elements of control theory, the rocket science of the feedback loop
    5 The missing ‘hot spot’: real-world evidence of the error
    5 Feedback analysis cannot help with global-warming predictions
    6 Reliable methods of predicting global warming do not depend on feedback analysis
    7 Governments’ error of economics: They thought net zero was worth it
    9 Scientific paper: An error of temperature feedback analysis and its consequences

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      Lance

      Very good paper. Thank you for posting it.

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      RickWill

      A paper without an author is not very convincing. And it still buys into the “greenhouse effect”.

      Earth’s energy balance is limited by open ocean surface temperature feedback that prevents it sustaining more than 30C. Heat loss from oceans has a step reduction once the temperature is below 15C and is close to zero once the surface is down to -1.7C. All these processes depend on the formation of ice either on the surface of the water or in the atmosphere.

      The best way to invalidate climate models is to show that there are long term cooling or static trends in regions of the globe like the Southern Ocean. No climate model is able to produce a sustained cooling trend anywhere. ALL the observed surface warming away from heat islands is due to natural processes that only involve CO2 in its contribution to biomass.

      The surface of the Northern Hemisphere will continue to warm and likely at an accelerating rate. At present there are new snowfall records being set but there are very few places where permanent ice is actually expanding. Permafrost is still retreating north. The increase in solar intensity that is causing the warming only bottomed 500 years ago. The change so far is very small compared to what it will be when aphelion aligns with the boreal summer solstice.

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        Seeing the graphic and the choice of words it can’t be an other author than Monckton, the to German translated text at EIKE confirms that.

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          Konrad

          Yes, certainly Viscount Monckton. I can tell, not just by the garish graphics, but by the foundation error in his calculations. He has the total solar thermal gain for surface without radiative gases as less than 260 Kelvin.

          I have previously debated Viscount Monckton. He is a lukewarmer, believing in a net radiative greenhouse effect. Now most lukewarmers adopt their position out of fear and cowardice. Monckton does so because he is blinded by mathematics, his primary skill. When all you have is a hammer …

          Rick is right, anyone claiming a net radiative greenhouse effect, then just arguing about to what degree, is on a road to nowhere. There is no net radiative greenhouse effect for CO2 to add to.

          The net effect of radiative gases in our atmosphere is to cool our atmosphere, giving it the ability to cool the solar heated surface of our ocean planet.

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            What is a lukewarmer Konrad, I ask because it has been applied to many people who are foes of the stupid AGW conjecture.

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              Kalm Keith

              A lukewarmer believes that CO2 is “active” but not a big enough effect to be worried about.

              Watch out for those photons shooting out everywhere.

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            Kalm Keith

            Exactly.
            I have met and had my photo taken with Lord Monckton and appreciate his pushback against the CAGW stupidity.

            His main focus is to examine the IPCCC garbage from a mathematical viewpoint.

            A great bloke but he doesn’t look at the whole picture.

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    It is the “far right” who is being rational about the climate and their winning means a much better policy will be in place to keep the criers of doom in check.

    FACT: There is NO “hot spot” existing and after 30 years of waiting for it to show up makes clear the AGW prediction is a miserable failure.

    FACT: There is NO Positive Feedback Loop existing after 30 years of waiting for it to show up makes clear the AGW prediction is a miserable failure.

    It is the climate spooks who denies this reality and a lot more too since there is NO climate Crisis developing it is a manufactured lie because they are desperate to fight against the reality of climate being mostly unchanged.

    AGW scaremongering is a worn-out propaganda it is BORING people boooooooring, people need to get on with life and let this colossal AGW hypothesis failure go.

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    Also amazing:
    CO2 Emission Rates From Natural Sources Are Up To 6 Times Larger Than From Humans

    According to a new study, the claim that increases in atmospheric CO2 are driven exclusively by humans relies on a made-up, disparate accounting model, with the residence time for natural emissions 3 to 4 years (which is consistent with actual observations), but CO2 from human sources is claimed to have a residence time of 50 to over 100 years.

    The 15 to 30 times longer residence time for human emissions is an imaginary conceptualization that is wholly inconsistent with (1) bomb tests (1963) and (2) seasonal CO2 variations found in real-world observations.

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    Alex

    We are not Far-Right, but by far we are right.

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      Sambar

      “but by far we are right.”
      This statement can’t possibly be true. Just look at all the political parties in the Netherlands that the PEOPLE didn’t vote for.
      These loosing parties are claiming that democracy in Holland is under threat because they didin’t win. Damn those far right plebs!

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      Harves

      Yes, ‘FarRight’ is short for ‘Far more often right’.

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      John Connor II

      The left: “corrupt billionaires are the problem. Tax them more.”

      The right: “corrupt governments are the problem. Arrest them.”

      JC2: “you do realise that the corrupt billionaires control the corrupt governments, don’t you?”
      😎

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        “you do realise that the corrupt billionaires control the corrupt governments, don’t you?”

        But … but – I voted!

        Auto
        Umm – /s, perhaps!

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    Zigmaster

    Rather than the political categories being Right and Left the categories should be right and wrong. The Greens and those who pander to them are rapidly becoming the wrong side of politics. Even in Australia I think that is starting to happen.

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      Tony Thomas

      By coincidence, I ran a check on the leftist Australian Broadcasting Commission’s usage of “far right” and “far left” for an article I published a month ago:
      “For amusement, I also checked ABC mentions of “far right” vs mentions of “far left”. It was no contest: about 1600 vs 170.”

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      Zigmaster -right and wrong is one way of looking at it but in political description it should be democratic-free enterprise (right) vs centralised socialism leading to dictatorship (left & far left). The latter includes political systems under Herr H (Germany), Stalin (USSR), Mao (China), Pol Pot(Kambuchia), Xi (present China), Putin (present Russia), Ho Chi Min (Vietnam), Vo Van Thuong (present Vietnam), Min Aung Hlaing (present Myanmar), Kim Jong Un (present north Korea), Nicolais Maduro (present Venezuala) and most Arab nations (eg Iran,Bangladesh, Saudi Arabia, Pakistan, Afganistan, UAE, Qatar, Morocco, Libya etc)

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    Kalm Keith

    Far Out!

    Surely this can’t be true because Sheep just follow the pack; has something spooked them?

    After thirty years of watching industry get smashed, forced incarceration during Covid19 , VaXXination Imperatives, businesses smashed and people made increasingly dependent on Government Handouts, we the Sheeple here in The Lucky Country, continue to vote as their ABCCC tells us.

    The only positive is that the recent referendum suggests that we still have a functional voting system, for the moment.

    I’m sure that can be fixed so that we can keep up with the U.S..

    Baaa.

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    RobB

    Yes Jo, thanks for calling out the ‘far right’ propaganda label. What is labelled ‘far right’ today is what any centrist party would have stood for a couple decades ago. Its long overdue to push back against it.

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    Alex

    From memory:

    The metrics are in Carbon-equivalent of CO2

    Annual human emissions……………. ~10 Gigatons
    Mass of resident atmospheric CO2…… ~800 Gigatons
    Mass of resident hydrospheric CO2….. ~37,000 Gigatons

    Total mass of CO2 ……………….. ~38,000 Gigatons carbon-equivalent

    Daily global CO2 emissions 10/365 Gigatons = 0.000263158 Gigatons

    So we are daily contributing 0.00026 Gigatons of Ce of CO2 into a sink containing 38,000 Gigatons.

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    Mike

    The giant brains on the far left still believe:

    Ulcers are caused by stress
    Covid 19 came from a wet market (that just happens to be right outside a leaky biolab that performs gain of function research on bat viruses)
    Covid vaccines keep you from contracting the disease
    Cloth masks prevent transmission
    The covid virus is too stupid to go around plexiglass or travel further than 6 feet

    Yeah they are the party of science.

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    Penguinite

    If this is “Far Right” let’s have more of it! At last, the snowball is rolling downhill and gathering speed and size. Blackout Bowen better et al prepare to be smothered. Right is right and the Labor/Green consortium is wrong!

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    Peter Fitzroy

    They tried this in Brazil, it did not work out so well there, why would the Netherlands be any different

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      Ronin

      Brazil and Netherlands, hmmmm , yes, so similar.

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      Penguinite

      How about less election/vote rigging?

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      Seriously your opinion ? 😀 Unbelievable 😀

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        Peter Fitzroy

        name one far right government that has lasted, or even one that delivered on its promise

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          Firstly, there are no “far-right” governments.

          But assuming you are misusing the term — Tony Abbott stopped the boats.

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          Harves

          I’m assuming far right to you PF is anyone right of Adam Bandt. So John Howard paid off Keating’s debt, Maggie Thatcher modernised Britain, Trump made the US energy self-sufficient.
          Now let’s talk about Albo. Wasn’t he going to reduce energy bills and pass some referendum?

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          Jonesy

          Far right? Of what? Right and Left was devised by communists to differentiate themselves from the Fascists and Nazis. Far right is not a term that can be applied to Conservatives or Libertarians because they believe in the primacy of the individual. A concept alien to socialists of any flavour. If you are a conservative YOU CANNOT EVER BECOME A FASCIST OR NAZI BECAUSE IT MEANS BECOMING A HARD SOCIALIST FIRST. A hard conservative? Ascetic? or EFF OFF AND LEAVE ME ALONE! Get out of my life. The terms do not transfer. Socialism is like being on a beachball, keep going and eventually you end up totalitarian, be it through politics or religion. You never pass through being a conservative. Say it isn’t so!

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            Gnrnr

            I wish I could add all the thumbs up to this, but I can do only one.

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              Gee Aye

              The terms “left” and “right” first appeared during the French Revolution of 1789 when members of the National Assembly divided into supporters of the Ancien Regime to the president’s right and supporters of the revolution to his left.

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          melbourne resident

          Hitler made the trains run on time

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      You forgot Argentina…..

      Smiling…..

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      el+gordo

      There are subtle differences, Lula made a comeback in a tight race.

      The big news is that Brazil will get the presidency of the G20 next year and Lula is a strong believer in climate action.

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    David Maddison

    There is nothing shameful about being on any part of the “right” spectrum including the so-called “far right”.

    Of course, the Left try to use that “far right” slur to mean someone is a National Socialist.

    In fact, the National Socialists are of the Left, as the name implies.

    The Left don’t want you to know it but National Socialism is a derivative of Fascism which itself was invented by the Hegelian Marxist Giovanni Gentle.

    Like all Leftist factions, they all hated each other.

    See, for example:

    Journal of Libertarian StudiesVolume 25, No. 1 (2021): XXX–XXX

    How and Why Fascism and Nazism Became the “Right” Allen Gindler

    ABSTRACT: The Left has been represented by various currents that have historically been very aggressive toward each other because they used different tactics and strategies to achieve socialism. Like many intellectuals, revolutionary leftists did not get along with each other very often. Since the inception of Marxism, which is the doctrine of communism—an extreme and distinctive flavor of socialism—the Far Left has portrayed adherents of less revolutionary ideologies as enemies of the working people. The followers of evolutionary socialism—the Social Democrats—were accused by the Communists of betraying the proletariat. Non-Marxist currents of socialism, such as fascism and National Socialism, were excluded from the socialist camp and put on the right wing by Marxist-Leninist propaganda. Stalinist political science became a benchmark that distinguished between the genuine Left and
    the Right. This article shows the origin and historical background of the artificial shift of fascism and National Socialism to the right side of the political spectrum.

    ..

    Neither the Fascists nor the (National Socialists) identified themselves with the class of entrepreneurs but positioned themselves primarily as pacifiers between labor and capital. Benito Mussolini (1933), already the prime minister and head of the Fascist Party, declared that the twentieth century “will be a century of authority, a century of the Left, a century of fascism … it may be expected that this will be the century of collectivism, and hence the century of the
    State.”

    (Search for the title and you’ll fund a free downloadable copy, I can’t copy the link for some reason.)

    If you look at Left-biased search engines like Goolag you will see the enormous efforts the Left still go to today to falsely claim Fascism and National Socialism is not of the Left.

    And yet you see National Socialist behaviour among the Left today such as the violence, the black uniforms of Antifa, the antisemitism and the appalling treatment they give to any black person who dares be a conservative.

    Also see:

    Dinesh D’Souza “The Big Lie: Exposing the Nazi Roots of the American Left”.

    And who invented the renewables scam? Why the National Socialists of course.

    See:

    Rupert Darwall “Green Tyranny: Exposing the Totalitarian Roots of the Climate Industrial Complex”

    And:

    http://en.friends-against-wind.org/realities/how-renewables-and-the-global-warming-industry-are-literally-hitler

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    Anton

    Wilders has harvested votes relating to a variety of issues, of which climate change is not the largest: probably the attempt by the previous PM to do the EU’s environmental bidding in closing down the nation’s multitude of family-run dairy farms, coupled with pro-terrorist Palestinian demonstrations in the cities and knowledge that Wilders for two decades has been unique in calling Islam an enemy, are more responsible. (See his 15-minute 2008 film Fitna, doubtless pulled from YouTube but available elsewhere.)

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      Hasbeen

      If “the EU’s environmental bidding in closing down the nation’s multitude of family-run dairy farms”, was not a global warming act, what the hell was it?

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    Ronin

    “What is clear is that environmentalists hate it:”

    Always a good indicator that it is good.

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    Has someone an idea, what a decreasing AP sun index may mean and will that have affect climate ?
    ftp://ftp.gfz-potsdam.de/pub/home/obs/kp-ap/ap_monyr.ave
    Data from 1932 – ’til today

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      Penguinite

      Read Ian Plimmer’s latest offering “Green Murder” (A life sentence without parole) which, by the way, is dedicated to Hon. Gina Rinehart!

      Maybe Blackout Bowen should read and take notice?

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      John Hultquist

      Go to WUWT and search ” ap index ”
      There was much discussion of this about 12 years ago.
      Links to graphics are not working in some of the older posts. Sad.
      Anyway, you can waste a day. Enjoy. 🙂

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    Neville

    The Centre Right have had a well deserved win in the Netherlands, Italy, Argentina etc.
    But have a look at the co2 emissions per country ( OWI Data) and the World from 1988 to 2021 and we can see the problems for the delusional left wing extremists.
    These graphs are active so just hold the mouse on the country names on the right and highlight that country since 1988.
    Australia, Argentina, Netherlands Italy are virtually a straight line at the bottom of the graph. Unbelievable but true. Just remember that while Labor and the Greens waste TRILLIONS of $ for decades into the future and WRECK our environment ONSHORE and OFFSHORE for a ZERO RETURN.

    https://ourworldindata.org/grapher/absolute-change-co2?tab=chart&time=1988..latest&country=AUS~OWID_WRL~CHN~European+Union+%2828%29~ARG~DEU~NLD~OWID_NAM~ITA

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    ralph ellis

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    Far-right, means:

    Anyone who disagrees with the gIobalist narrative.
    Anyone who places family above the state.
    Anyone who believes in natural climate cycles.
    Anyone who is not a Communist-Marxist.
    Anyone who dares believe that Westerners created our technological civilisation.
    Anyone suspicious of the domination goals of lslam.
    Anyone who believes in freedom of thought or belief.
    Anyone who thinks George Orwell was crafting a satire rather than fiction.

    .

    P.S. The Left don’t like lslam, Climate bed-wetters, or LGBT – but they are masters at using gullible (and expendable) pawns, to further their global domination. These foolish lslam, Climate and LGBT pawns still don’t realise that they will be the first against the wall, when the Communist Left achieves world domination.

    R

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      Ronin

      “These foolish lslam, Climate and LGBT pawns still don’t realise that they will be the first against the wall, when the Communist Left achieves world domination.”

      We saw this in action with the LGBTXYZ mob for Palestine, how dumb are they.

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      robert rosicka

      As I understood it to be a far right radical you have to love your country be a catholic and be proud of your national flag along with the belief of traditional family values.

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        ralph ellis

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        Better a Protestant than a Catholic.

        It was the Protestants who enabled the Renaissance, Reformation, Age of Reason, and therefore the Industrial Revolution.

        R

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    Greg in NZ

    We can now add New Zealand, the country formerly known as Aotearoa, to the list, since a 3-way coalition government – a ménage a trois if you will – was announced yesterday, the day it SNOWED on both our main islands. Green, purple, and red, heads are exploding: I’m not sure if from the COLD or the realisation they lost.

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      Greg in NZ,
      Thanks. Interesting.
      BBC – at https://www.bbc.com/news/world/australia – has no mention of that – at 1720z/25th November 2023.
      Indeed, it still has a story – ‘News’ – about Australia winning the cricket [“Australia stun hosts India to win sixth title as Travis Head hits century” – 6 days old], and leads on a rat plague “Rat plague spreads to Australia’s fishing towns” – ‘2 days old’.

      I wonder if the BBC is – well, not ‘biased’, exactly – but just a little choosy about the news it wants me [and the rest of the world] to know?
      That couldn’t be true, though, could it?

      Auto

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        Greg in NZ

        Here in the antipodes, we are a day ahead of the rest of the world, or in London’s case, 12 hours – it may take the Beeb a little while to catch up with the future… besides, although we’re owned by Australian banks, we’re not ‘in’ the Land of Oz: probably classified as ‘Pacific’ or CO2, ie. Colonial Outpost 2.0

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    Neville

    Here again is the Climate Change quiz from the co2 Coalition.
    And they ask this question……

    “Climate Quiz”

    “The Great Climate Change Debate is one of the “hottest” issues before the public and policy makers today. How much do you know about the subject? Or possibly, the real question is one attributed to American humorist Will Rogers: “It ain’t what you don’t know that gets you into trouble, it’s what you know for sure that just ain’t so.”

    “Find out your Climate IQ by taking our Climate Quiz: the answers may surprise you”.

    https://co2coalition.org/climate-quiz/

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    Ronin

    “We are shocked,” Extinction Rebellion Netherlands says. “This outcome will likely mean a rollback of climate measures, new fossil investments, exclusion of marginalised groups, and more.”

    Great, when can we get some of this in Australia.

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    Ronin

    “Environmental groups have expressed shock and promised climate action in response to Dutch election results. Wednesday night saw the historic victory of the far right Party for Freedom (PVV).We are shocked,”

    The only reason they would be shocked is that they were so sure they had it in the bag, a bit like Killary Klinton in 2016.

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      RickWill

      If you live in a bubble and walk around with your fingers in your ears not wanting to even listen to alternate views then you could likely be shocked.

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    CO2 Lover

    Australians are the victims of a “hard left” Albo the Commie government with a mission to destroy the power grid to appease its UN and WEF masters.

    The time for a “hard right” government is now overdue

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    RickWill

    Geert Wilders is strong on national sovereignty similar to Trump:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NplV5lyhRfY

    Wilders is correct in stating that countries are losing their sovereignty.

    The Davos mob are setting the agenda not elected representatives.

    Qatar is the current peace broker in Syria not the UN. The UN is well past its use-by date as is the EU bureaucracy. The decision makers need to be accountable to the people. There is no democracy if unelected officials are making the rules.

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      Kim

      19th Century we had the immigration and we had the ghettos. 20th Century, particularly the latter half, we made a huge effort on integrating everyone, having a single united and peaceful country where everyone is equal. Now come the 21st Century the ghettos are back courtesy of the elites, the WEF.

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      RickWill

      This link has the Clintel article on Geert Wilders:
      https://clintel.org/a-historical-victory-also-for-climate-realism/

      This is some of the commentary on climate:

      The Netherlands is responsible for less than half of a percent of the total global emission of CO2. In answer to questions of the PVV, the Minister (of Climate) admitted that his climate program with 122 measures, would only lead to a reduction of global warming by 0,000036 degrees. The amount of CO2 that The Netherlands avoids emitting with these measures, is compensated by the amount that China emits in less than one day. And the cost of all this is 28 billion euros! This has nothing to do with reality, it is all about climate ideology and delusions of grandeur.

      ALL those measures is the same as one day output from China.

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      Try this – whilst attention is on Ukraine, Gaza, Biden’s decline and the German debt debacle …

      https://unherd.com/thepost/the-eu-has-voted-for-a-superstate/

      “Report on proposals of the European Parliament for the amendment of the Treaties; it proposes to massively restrict the right of member states to veto EU measures. Other features include the “establishment of a defence union including military units […] under the operational command of the Union”; exclusive EU “competence” (i.e. control) over environment and climate policy; and a “strengthening” of the “Union’s common immigration policy”.”

      Auto
      Almost as the Dutch polls were open …

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    John Connor II

    One new (candidates thoroughly vetted) political party + widespread awareness of the WEF totalitarian agenda + one emergency election now in Oz and we can join the sanity and decency rebellion too.
    Change(for your own survival) only occurs at the precipice.
    The problem is the clock is still ticking but the CNN/ABC bunnies STILL don’t have a clue.

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    Kim

    “The climate is always changing, always has done, always will do.”
    “We are currently in an inter-glacial period of the current ice age.”
    “For every 100,000 atoms and molecules of atmosphere only 40 are CO2 and of that only 4 are human produced.”
    …-> out comes the ‘science’ part from them …
    “But that’s not what the science says.”
    That’s when they fall flat!

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    Asp

    Hopefully, the silent majority has finally woken up.

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    Old Goat

    Language has been completely changed . The business world is leading the charge and words often now mean the opposite . You can easily play Bulls*%t bingo at general meetings . The media breathlessly applauds like the useful idiots that they are. When was the last time you heard a politician mention “Deficit” or “Debt reduction”. We might have to relearn what “Depression” means. The lefts “Free money” and “climate change” is always a ponzi scheme. Using your money to buy your votes .

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    John Connor II

    Election 2023 coalition agreement: Winston Peters makes first remarks after being announced as Deputy PM, promises ‘much, much better Govt’

    New Zealand First leader Winston Peters has made his first remarks after being announced as the country’s new Deputy Prime Minister under the three-party coalition agreement – a Government he says will be “much, much better” than the last.

    https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/politics/2023/11/election-2023-coalition-agreement-winston-peters-makes-first-remarks-after-being-announced-as-deputy-pm-promises-much-much-better-govt.html

    * Ending Covid mandates
    * Full Covid investigation
    * National interest test to limit the UN.

    Confidence factor: 0
    The clock’s still ticking.

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      Ross

      I have been reading about Peters this morning. So, where was he during the COVID bollocks in NZ? Did they lock him up in a cave and muffle him? Where were all these sensible recommendations 2 years ago?

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        Shannon

        Winston wasn’t in Parliament then….only reelected last Election…Im keeping fingers crossed for NZ.Thank God Adern has walked…..they may have a chance of lifting NZ out of the “boiling mud” !!

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    Ross

    Over the years people have criticised the use of the terms “leftie” or “right winger”. They’re too simplistic , many commentators would say, too banal. But , over and over again the term leftie just keeps being an accurate catchphrase. If I think of most people I would call a leftie, generally speaking they share socialistic / neo Marxist, climate alarmism , anti- business , YES voting, type views. They usually jump on the latest woke thing and usually have no qualms broadcasting their views. The latest woke cause is supporting the Palestinians cause and most of that is coming from “lefties”.

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    John Connor II

    Five Essential Questions Of Democracy:

    “What power have you got?”

    “Where did you get it from?”

    “In whose interests do you use it?”

    “To whom are you accountable?”

    “How do we get rid of you?”

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      David of Cooyal in Oz

      G’day J C II,
      I’d be inclined to put your last first.
      A bit like learning to drive, or writing a computer program – how do you stop this thing – before you get it going.
      Cheers
      Dave B

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    Hanrahan

    Milei may be an overdue disruptive force, but I wouldn’t welcome him into my tent YET.

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    STJOHNOFGRAFTON

    Good on you Geert Wilders. Yeah, ‘far right’ again. Actually the use of that phrase ‘far right’ is a litmus test for indicating a ‘far left’ or Marxist bias. But of course we never hear the term ‘far left’ being used by most of the media. The regular media’s political bias is regularly shown by its exclusive use of the term ‘far right’. Maybe Mr Wilders could consider spending half his time PM-ing Australia or at least demonstrating true leadership to our embarrassing PM.

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    David Maddison

    I think the thinking community are pretty much over the standard ad hominems from the Left such as:

    -Far right
    -Racist
    -National Socialist
    -Uneducated
    -Tin foil hat wearing conspiracy theorists
    -MAGA supporter
    -Trump supporter
    -Elitist
    -Homophobe, transphobe, any other type of *phobe
    -Mysoginist
    -Xenophobic
    -Slavery supporter
    -White supremacist

    Blah, blah, blah as Ms Thunberg would say. Or should I say Dr Thunberg now she has an honorary “doctorate” from the Theology Faculty of the University of Helsinki.

    I’m sure you can think of more.

    They use ad hominems because they’ve learned it’s an effective way to silence people without having to debate using facts and logic or even with politeness.

    And they have so over-used terms like “racist” that they have been rendered meaningless.

    I’m just so over this.

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      David Maddison

      I think I will use Greta’s honorary title in future.

      Dr Thunberg is, after all, one of the Left’s finest intellectuals.

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    Neville

    Rick Will I followed JC 11’s advice to highlight all of my link again and copy then paste into the browser. Here’s my first link again and it worked for me.
    This is from 1988 to 2021 and check Aussie flat line and negative -8.73 million tonnes in 2021.
    Highlight each country since 1988 by just holding your mouse on the country’s name.

    https://ourworldindata.org/grapher/absolute-change-co2?tab=chart&time=1988..latest&country=AUS~OWID_WRL~CHN~European+Union+%2828%29~ARG~DEU~NLD~OWID_NAM~ITA

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    John Holliday

    The riots in Dublin are another example of where this description is used. In the Australian today it was reported that, Police blamed a “complete lunatic faction driven by far-right ideology”. The reports infer it is something to do with too many refugees and a shortage of housing but they refused to identify what nationalities were involved. Reporting of facts is not approved when dealing with far-right ideology.

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    John Holliday

    The riots in Dublin are another example of where this description is used. In the Australian today it was reported that, Police blamed a “complete lunatic faction driven by far-right ideology”. The reports infer it is something to do with too many refugees and a shortage of housing but they refused to identify what nationalitie were involved. Reporting of facts is not approved when dealing with far-right ideology.

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      SimonB

      Political Right and Left is more adequately understood for some in the length of time of an election cycle and what they did preparing in opposition.
      The left has a clear focus of their social engineering and the bureaucracy already in place to take effect immediately they are elected, with zero interest in cost, debt or what those who didn’t vote for them see as fair and equitable.
      Essentially; tell them what they want to hear to get swing voting useful idiots and don’t deviate from the plan, because we are here for the ideological ‘good of the cause!’
      Hence the left being populated by activist who have never had a real job, nor care how the money appears.
      The right spends opposition working how to unravel the economic mess, defending the basic tenets of capitalism and why they ‘aren’t governing for all’, winding back the policies they stood on to strengthen the economy because they are fixated on focus groups and leftwing trashmedia criticism.
      If the right doesn’t break this cycle of working to a media driven Marxist agenda then the groundwork never gets dismantled and the Marxist long game rolls on!
      A three year political cycle isn’t long enough for the right to repair economies and forge future prosperity.
      A three year political cycle is far too long for focused and prepared leftwing economic vandals to be in control!

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    Neville

    BTW Dr Spencer and Dr Christy had their new study published of a temp increase of a 1.9c per doubling of co2.
    They based their model on REAL OBSERVATIONS over the last 50 years.
    This was published in Sept this year and is similar to Happer, Curry & Lewis, Lindzen, etc.
    IOW nothing to worry about and no need to waste many TRILLIONS more $ in the decades ahead.
    And certainly no need to WRECK our electricity grids and our OFFSHORE and ONSHORE environments anymore.

    https://www.drroyspencer.com/2023/09/our-new-climate-sensitivity-paper-has-been-published/

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    Steve of Cornubia

    Leftist politicians and their media collaborators should – but won’t – stop to wonder why so many ordinary citizens are standing out in the “far right” camp. Perhaps we’re onto something. Perhaps we’re right. Perhaps there’s a learning opportunity for them.

    But of course they won’t. As we saw with HiLIAR Clinton, they believe themselves so smart, and voters so dumb, that whenever we vote for the other guy it’s because we’re stupid, racist, homophobic rednecks who can’t be trusted to vote ‘correctly’.

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    STJOHNOFGRAFTON

    “We are shocked,” Extinction Rebellion Netherlands says. “This outcome will likely mean a rollback of climate measures, new fossil investments, exclusion of marginalised groups, and more.”

    That’s right, XR zombies: To A New Age Of Enlightenment

    Having previously been the means by which civilization crawled out from the old Dark Age, science today is festooned with corruption. Back when it was tasked with the objective process of unraveling the mysteries of our world, science flourished. Nowadays science is largely in the business of acquiring politically controlled government grants.

    https://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2023/11/meet_the_new_dark_age.html

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      David of Cooyal in Oz

      I disagree with this assertion:

      Back when it was tasked with the objective process of unraveling the mysteries of our world, science flourished. Nowadays science is largely in the business of acquiring politically controlled government grants.

      I think science is still there, and even working well, but the term is being misused, and propagandists – e.g. editors of newspapers, and even once scientific journals – are abusing rheir power by suppressing papers which in any way disagree with their own preferred position.

      Cheers
      Dave B

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    Grogery

    This picture demonstrates how the left work out what is “far right”.

    Far right

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    Graham Palmer

    HISTORICAL FACT: 🔥🔥🔥

    🔥1. Adolph Hitler was far Left-Wing socialist.

    🔥2. Adolph Hitler was a strong supporter / friend of the Muslim Brotherhood leadership.

    🔥3. Hamas, the elected government of Palestinian Gaza are murderous homophobic racist mono-cultural supremacists.

    🔥4. Left-Wing teachers / Left-Wing Mainstream media / various socialist politicians strongly support the Palestinian people who voted overwhelmingly to elect Hamas and its murderous homophobic racist mono-cultural supremacist policies.

    🔥5. Far Right-Wing Conservatives fought to the death to defeat the far Left-Wing National Socialists aka Nazis.

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      Gee Aye

      Fact from Jo

      What does “far right” even mean when it applies to a quarter of the population?

      Applying that to your guy – what does far left even mean if applied to >50% of the population?

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    Right means adroit, good and deft,
    While sinister and gauche means left,
    So against right is wrong,
    Where the far left belong,
    Causing a massive societal cleft.

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    Philip

    Two distinct victories. Argentina is about economy; the Dutch is primarily about immigration and then environmental management. The thing they have in common is, how dire the situation has got in the two countries, before a reaction.

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    Rudi K

    Is this better described as a case of the “completely right” versus the “completely wrong”?

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    Uber

    There’s a very clear solution to this growing problem of democratic wrong-headedness, which is to simply remove free and fair elections from the table. Watch for the conversation to start turning in that direction soon.

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    Paul

    I am Dutch so I hope I have a reasonable take on this. At least I can read Dutch news and opinions. Wilders has had a checkered past and has made firm statements regarding islam and muslims. Not all moderate, for sure. Wilders party, the PVV, has some colourful members, many of whom I much disagree.
    Still, he managed to get 37 out a 150 seats in the Dutch parliament and with that he is the largest party, by far.

    It’s a remarkable shift in the political landscape in the Netherlands. Post seventies, Dutch politics has been social democratic and centrist and shifting leftwards gradually. With the second period in government for Mark Rutte, the ousted prime minister, the shift towards the left has been significant. Originally, social democrats (the left) were the main representatives of the working class. But during the last decades, these parties have come to represent the elite and well-off. As we see in so many western countries, they care little for the needs of working class and their policies revealed this clearly: immigration without building the required infrastructure, heightened focus on climate change leading to huge spending of taxes, the childcare crisis, the nitrogen crisis (stikstof dossier), strong inflation, poor government response to covid, very high spending to support the war in Ukraine etc.

    These are all themes known to Australia too, with the exception of the childcare and the nitrogen crises. I provide two links for further reading on these two highly disturbing yet interesting affairs.

    all of this has caused a reversal in Dutch politics: the normally silent majority has spoken loudly and made it clear that they will not accept that the next Dutch government will proceed along the same lines. Another factor could well be the Israel/Gaza events, motivating more voters to vote for a party with an outspoken opinion in relation to migration.

    At the moment, there appears to be a deadlock in government formation. It appears that the two main candidates (VVD, NSC) for a coalition are refusing to form government with the PVV. This could lead to the ‘other’ parties, the ones just ousted, to get an opportunity to form government. The critical press in the Netherlands suggest that this is a possibility and would possibly lead to new elections in a few month with possibly an even better outcome for the PVV. We shall see.

    Wilders has much moderated his viewpoints over the last months, surely to increase his ability to form government and become prime minister. One should be critical about the ability of his party to bring forth sufficiently mature and responsible candidates. For a very long time, the PVV has been a single-topic party.

    But, the voters have spoken loudly and clearly. Interesting times. We should keep our eye on what happens in the Netherlands in the months to come.

    Links:

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