Saturday Open Thread

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    Simon Thompson

    Really interesting that QEII’s death has extinguished coverage of virus case rates etc. It seems that Victoria maintained a daily tally, but other states give weekly stats. Whodathunkit?

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    Ian Hill

    Here’s a different view of an electric car!

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0k1tbf8muMc

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    DD

    Personal ‘carbon dioxide’ quotas will be imposed on us soon:

    https://www.weforum.org/agenda/2022/09/my-carbon-an-approach-for-inclusive-and-sustainable-cities/

    Also, Paul Joseph Watson has an excellent commentary on this on his site: summit.news

    It’s all like a bad dream, isn’t it?

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    Orwell’s 1984, From Warning to How-To Guide

    From the Quadrant Online –

    “As highlighted in George Orwell’s 1984, language and how it is used influences how we think and act, so controlling language is a key strategy employed by totalitarian regimes of the left and right to manipulate people and enforce group think.

    In Orwell’s dystopian novel what is described as New­speak leads to a situation where “thoughtcrime” is impossible as “there will be no words in which to express it”. Such is the insidious evil of distorting language to control how people think Orwell writes in ‘Looking back on the Spanish Civil War’, we now live in world where whoever rules is able to say “two and two are five. This prospect frightens me much more than bombs”.”

    https://quadrant.org.au/opinion/qed/2022/09/orwells-1984-from-warning-to-how-to-guide/

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    John Connor II

    The one chip challenge

    TYLER, Texas (KLTV) – After three Tyler ISD middle school students were taken to the hospital by their parents Monday, district leadership is warning parents and students about the danger of the challenge known as the “One Chip Challenge.”

    “They started having violent vomiting on campus and it just would not stop, so we had to call their parents, and the parents had to take them to the hospital to be checked out,” said Rachel Barber, Director of Health Services for Tyler ISD.

    The challenge dares people to eat a chip covered in Carolina Reaper and ghost pepper seasonings, two of the world’s hottest peppers.

    “It’s sold at different stores and gas stations around town, and students are buying it to see if they can withstand the effects of the chip,” Barber said. She said effects include vomiting, shortness of breath and dehydration.

    https://www.kltv.com/2022/09/14/webxtra-tyler-isd-warns-about-resurgence-one-chip-challenge/

    Bunch of slack-jawed…err…people. 😉
    I add Reaper Chili to muesli!

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    John Connor II

    Real estate melting down globally now. Properties not getting asking price or not selling at all.
    In the USA household wealth had a record loss of $6.1 TRILLION in Q2, 2022.

    NASDAQ down 26%
    S&P 500 down 18%
    Bitcoin down 58%

    30 year fixed mortgage rate went from 2.65% Jan 2021 to 6.28% Sept 2022.

    Inflation 1.4% Jan 2021 and is now 8.4% Sept 2022 (6% in the GFC).

    So Biden’s ridiculous inflation reduction act increased inflation, but they’ll make the weather gooder through increased taxes…

    Next weekend will be interesting…

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    John Connor II

    From October 1, German streets will be patrolled by the military to prevent riots.


    The German army will start patrolling the streets as of October 1, 2022. Officially, this is not to enforce the new covid measures of Health Minister Karl Lautenbach, but it is of course convenient and it is also quite handy for when things get a bit cold and the Germans revolt.

    Germany’s Defense Minister Christine Lambrecht and the Inspector General of the German Army (Bundeswehr), Eberhard Zorn announced a new army unit called “Bundeswehr Territorial Commando (TerrFüKdoBw)”

    “With the establishment of TerrFüKdoBw, we are establishing a national territorial leadership capacity across the ‘peace-crisis-war’ spectrum,” the announcement read. “In this way, we are creating the necessary framework conditions to better fulfill our various tasks and continue to make our contribution to the security of our country and the fulfillment of our alliance obligations”

    “The German army will assist law enforcement starting 1st October 2022 resulting in platoons patrolling the streets and coinciding with the return of mask mandates – for the unvaccinated only.”

    https://www.martinvrijland.nl/en/news-analyses/duitse-leger-gaat-per-1-oktober-door-de-straten-patrouilleren-maar-waarom/

    Pretty obviously Germany no longer has any libraries or books on their own history…

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      KP

      “Your papers please….” The photo sellotaped to the back of my driving licence…

      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Your_papers%2C_please#/media/File:Bundesarchiv_Bild_101I-030-0780-28,_Krakau,_Razzia_von_deutscher_Ordnungspolizei.jpg

      Looks like its all coming around again, Putin was right.

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      Curious George

      What an untraditional Oktoberfest.

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      Fran

      We went through 11 days without power in Montreal in 1998 in the ice storm in Feb. We had to drain the radiators and retreat to the basement. Masses of people were in shelters. Interestingly there was very little looting. I think the Germans are anticipating a lot of looting when power goes down.

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        Sambar

        I remember reading about the “big” ice storm and the effects that it had on Canadian lives, with a number ( can’t remember how many ) of people dying . The cover that I read then went on to explain that had this same ice storm hit in 1898 the death toll would have been much smaller as people of this earlier era were better ” prepared”. The 1898 Canadian had a stockpile of all that was needed , i.e. a wood heap and preserved food and did not need to venture out until the weather improved. The modern Canadian was so dependant on the “services” that had improved the quality of everyones life that they did not stockpile energy sources or food, after all the shopping centre was just down the road. No one thought that they would never be able to make it.

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    John Connor II

    Solway’s Guatemalan nickel mine exposed. A major investigation across borders by 65 journalists.

    Solway is a Swiss consortium which makes over $600 million USD in yearly revenue and bought the Guatemala nickel mine from the Canadian company HudBay in 2011.

    The data exposes the harsh realities of the mine’s conditions and the lengths it goes to continue operating and to silence those that oppose it or report on it.

    https://youtu.be/t1RkA_eBjNE

    I have detailed files…😎

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    John Connor II

    Australia, W.A. – Remarkable 380-Million-Year-Old Heart Discovered – Shedding New Light on Evolution

    Paleontologists have discovered a 380-million-year-old heart – the oldest ever found – alongside a separate fossilized liver, stomach, and intestine in an ancient jawed fish, shedding new light on the evolution of our own bodies.

    Vital new evolutionary clues are provided by the research, which found that the position of the organs in the body of arthrodires is similar to modern shark anatomy. Arthrodires are an extinct class of armored fishes that flourished through the Devonian period from 419.2 million years ago to 358.9 million years ago.

    It was a remarkable discovery given that soft tissues of ancient species were rarely preserved and it was even rarer to find 3D preservation, said lead researcher John Curtin Distinguished Professor Kate Trinajstic, from Curtin’s School of Molecular and Life Sciences and the Western Australian Museum.

    “Evolution is often thought of as a series of small steps, but these ancient fossils suggest there was a larger leap between jawless and jawed vertebrates. These fish literally have their hearts in their mouths and under their gills – just like sharks today.”

    https://www.science.org/doi/10.1126/science.abf3289

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    Earl

    We have our first indicator of the type of “ruler” King Charles III will be and it suggests he will stand for everything and stand for nothing. As Sir Winston Churchill put it: “An appeaser is one who feeds a crocodile, hoping it will eat him last”.

    On 9 September I commented that his coronation statement as to whether he would be the “Defender of The Faith” (the original oath), or the “Defender of Faith” as he had talked about some years ago would be telling.

    Yesterday he appeared to have set his “defender” course at the reception for religious leaders that he held at Buckingham Palace by commenting he saw his duty to “…protect the space for faith.”

    He went on to also state that he “… always thought of Britain as a “community of communities”. “

    When they change the maps of the world to replace New Zealand with Aotearoa and, if sorted out in time, the new name for Australia, they can also update United Kingdom to United Spaces. And those living there will come to find that each space has its own set of customs for entering and abiding there and each will develop their own community currency and community taxes.

    In no time at all the country referred to as the United Spaces will transition to a collective of fiefdoms with the only true commonality between them being that inhabitants are called serfs.

    One small step for man, one giant step for serfdom.

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    John Connor II

    Setting the record straight on meat and greenhouse gases.

    According to the U.S. Environmental Protection Agency, the largest sources of U.S. GHG emissions in 2016 were electricity production (28 percent of total emissions), transportation (28 percent) and industry (22 percent). All of agriculture accounted for a total of 9 percent. All of animal agriculture contributes less than half of this amount, representing 3.9 percent of total U.S. greenhouse gas emissions. That’s very different from claiming livestock represents as much or more than transportation.

    Giving up meat won’t save the climate
    Many people continue to think avoiding meat as infrequently as once a week will make a significant difference to the climate. But according to one recent study, even if Americans eliminated all animal protein from their diets, they would reduce U.S. greenhouse gas emissions by only 2.6 percent. According to our research at the University of California, Davis, if the practice of Meatless Monday were to be adopted by all Americans, we’d see a reduction of only 0.5 percent.

    Moreover, technological, genetic and management changes that have taken place in U.S. agriculture over the past 70 years have made livestock production more efficient and less greenhouse gas-intensive. According to the FAO’s statistical database, total direct greenhouse gas emissions from U.S. livestock have declined 11.3 percent since 1961, while production of livestock meat has more than doubled.

    https://clear.sf.ucdavis.edu/news/yes-eating-meat-affects-environment-cows-are-not-killing-climate

    How can cattle feed additives reduce greenhouse gas emissions?

    A class of microbes known as methanogens convert hydrogen and carbon dioxide into methane within the rumen – which is often referred to as enteric methane.

    A recent analysis of California’s dairy industry found that greenhouse gas emissions relating to dairy farm management were 57.7-59.2% lower in 2014 compared to 1964. They similarly, found the enteric methane emissions associated with the production of 1 kg of milk to be 54.1-55.7% lower in 2014 than in 1964.

    Red seaweed has sparked interest due to the tremendous potential as a feed additive that it has demonstrated. While other red seaweeds have been explored, A. taxiformis reduced methane emissions more than any other tested, without impacting the digestibility of forage. Numerous studies have been conducted with A. taxiformis as an additive and have found reduction in methane yield (methane production/kg of dry matter intake) of up to 55% in dairy cattle and up to 98% in beef cattle.

    https://clear.ucdavis.edu/explainers/how-can-cattle-feed-additives-reduce-greenhouse-gas-emissions

    BBQ TIME! Big middle finger to the WEF and greenies!

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      John Connor II

      As a postscript thought, maybe a switched-on Aussie beef farmer could go this route and have the world’s first virtually methane free climate friendly beef.
      That should ruffle a few feathers…

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      TdeF

      We are not supposed to question that Carbon Dioxide is a ‘greenhouse gas’. Everyone knows that. Is it? What evidence does anyone have?
      I would love to know who proved this and how. Are we being educated by repetition rather than facts?

      Water is a devastating greenhouse gas. It totally controls all our weather, but without water, we have no weather. And no water or life on the land. Water totally moderates the tropical zone. Evaporation gives us the life saving monsoons and tropical storms which fill the dams and rivers and lakes. And it can block the sun totally and reflect the light back as brilliant white from above. Is invisible CO2 even in the race?

      So would someone like to point me to where anyone has proven CO2 is a greenhouse gas of any significance at all? Where and when?
      Perhaps show that the nights in the desert are substantially warmer, something which is a direct measure when the sun is down and a clear sky, that infra red is actually radiated back, the one and only thing CO2 is supposed to do?

      Carbon footprints. Carbon Credits. Carbon Taxes. All based on an idea which has become fact by repetition. Where is the actual proof, the data, something scientists would recognize as facts?

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        TdeF

        And as importantly, that a 50% increase in CO2 over a long 150 years has any effect at all. The only discernible and dramatic effect has been a greening of the planet, something which was not supposed to happen. And it appears to be in direct proportion to CO2. That would indicate that the world has a shortage of CO2 and that is inhibiting plant growth.

        So where has the sea level changed dramatically since say 1870? The docks in all the ports I have visited are at least as old as this and they seem not to have changed at all.

        I have never understood what the problem is. We could cope quite easily with a sea level change. After all the tide in the Thames in London is 7 metres. And on the coast of France it can go out 20km between high tide and low tide. Surely we would notice a significant change in the last few hundred years?

        As for dead polar bears, who said? That’s a bit like elephant repellent. How many people have ever seen a Polar bear in the wild?

        And the Great Barrier Reef is fine, just a natural cycle apparently. So is the Crown of Thorns starfish which is highly beneficial.

        Is someone just making this stuff up? And why?

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          Graeme No.3

          TdeF:
          The Watergate (sometimes called Traitor’s gate) in the Tower of London was built in 1285. Yes, it is affected by the tides but at low tide they don gumboots and sweep up the coins thrown into the water. So no noticeable rise in 780+ years.
          Also the castles of Harlech and Beaumaris in Wales were built with small harbours for supplies during sieges. Also Caerlaverock in SW Scotland was near the sea. NONE of these are accessible from the sea these days.

          Chester was a sea port in Roman times. But by medieval times the Dee estuary had silted and the sea port moved to Parkgate nearly 10 miles away. It is from that port on the Dee that Handel travelled to Dublin to conduct a performance of his Mesaiah. That was in the 1700s. Nowadays only the very highest tides even reach Parkgate and mostly it looks out over salt marsh. All this despite rising sea levels. And Pevensey Castle was built about 290 A.D. by the Romans on a peninsula so with water on 3 sides (good design) and William the Conqueror moored his fleet in the bay there in 1066. Try looking up the YouTube of aerial views of the castle, they’ve found room for a road around it and a carpark..
          Their ABC Catalyst also highlighted this story about the Narrabeen Man death at Nth Sydney about 4,000 years ago.
They mentioned that SLs were about 1.5 metres higher then than today. Oops!

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            TdeF

            So many Roman harbours have completely silted up. Like Ephesus in Turkey, once the second biggest city. Kilometers inland now.
            And Bruges for that matter. Silt builds up. Even Rome itself is 15 metres above the Rome of the Empire thanks to 1cm of sand a year carried from Africa on the Sirocco. Beijing as well, sand from the Gobi. Cities like Stockholm had to be moved because the area is springing upwards faster than the water is rising after the melting of the glaciers. But in the scale of 150 years, this Armageddon scenario of drowning cities is rubbish and everyone knows it. But nothing happening, nothing going wrong is not news.

            And Chester is a lovely old place. I have walked around the walls. And read that it was a sea port but wonder if the Romans used canals which always silt up. In fact a lot of their boats were shallow draught for that purpose. Real sea going vessels cannot afford the instability, but until we could navigate by the stars, it was all coast hugging stuff, so a shallow draft was essential.

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          Totally agree Tdef

          The composition of earth’s atmosphere in 2022 is the same as in 1800 and it will almost certainly be the same in 2400 in spite of Albo’s pathetic 43% emission reduction and his nett zero nonsense.

          The Earth’s atmosphere of Nitrogen 78%, Oxygen 21%, Argon 0.9% with all other gases 0.01% including the almost unmeasurable, but demonized CO2 which has increased from 0.03 to 0.04% in 200 years.

          Also it’s about time we recognized real global temperatures vs the deceitful temperature anomoly technique which is used to hide the temperature reality.

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        John Connor II

        As I posted months ago, physics proved that CO2 CANNOT hold heat for more than 0.1 millisecond, so the green looners are just science detached climate doom cultists.

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        KP

        Well, you could look up Kevin Long at The Long View and see what he uses for weather forecasting 12months ahead. I read his subscription quarterlies, and he reckons the Murray Darling Basin will have the most rain in October, then less. We’re passing Jupiter and Mars, so more rain at the New Moon period. He says the La Nina is heading back to neutral, it won’t be anywhere near as dramatic as BOM say.

        The East Coast floods have been from the extra 10% water vapour the Tongan volcano blew into the stratosphere and that has largely been removed. The heating caused by it will take longer to dissipate, but we are heading back into a dryer Australia as usual.

        He has absolutely no time for the global warming cabal and their CO2, and like most climate forecasters he sees nothing amiss with the climate we have currently. He has pointed out the blatant lies that NOAA, our BOM and NASA pass off as ‘corrections’, and this time he is talking about how much official data has now become delayed by sometimes months at a time.

        I find it great to hear a voice of reason amongst the clamour of the chickens with their CO2 and world armageddon.

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          Fran

          The government forecast for the coming Canadian winter is “mild” for the continental portion, while the Farmer’s Almanac says it will be vicious.

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    David Maddison

    QUOTING FROM ELSEWHERE

    “…Ronald Reagan once described government as akin to a baby – an alimentary canal with a ferocious appetite at one end and no responsibility for what happens at the other end…”

    That pretty much describes most governments and particularly, the bureaucracy.

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      Dennis

      The fact is that in Australia (and other developed nation UN members) too many politicians federal and state are captive to the globalist left and climate hoax, warming deception, based. But it goes back to the establishment of the UN after WW2 and gradual infiltration and influence using treaties and agreements signed between UN and member nations, legislated into the law of those nations and implemented by stealth, meaning with very little information and explanation to we the people.

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      Annie

      That reminds me of our then family doctor (I was about 14), predating President Reagan, who looked thoughtfully at my newly-born youngest sister (a very pretty baby, unlike the rest of us!) and quietly commented that babies are just one alimentary canal!

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    John Connor II

    EUROPE — “The country with the lowest vaccination rate has the lowest excess mortality rate and the country with the highest vaccination rate has the highest excess mortality.”

    https://twitter.com/CitizenFreePres/status/1570777635843866625

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      Leo G

      A progressivist explanation would be that excess mortality causes increased vaccination.

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      Yes, BUT no one was ever vaccinated. They were jabbed with an experimental (mental) gene therapy drug that originally only had Emergency Approval. And this drug had very minimal testing before being ‘approved’.

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    John Connor II

    Weekend funny.

    If a dog can learn, maybe the vaxxed have hope…

    https://cdn.acidcow.com/uploads/posts/2022-09/1662893550_25.gif

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    David Maddison

    Comment about the World Economic Forum (WEF):

    They’re not trying to fix anything. They’re trying to break everything and leave it broken. You might want to start paying closer attention….

    Possibly by Jason Christoff.

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      Dennis

      Economic Systems: The alarmists keep telling us their concern about global warming is all about man’s stewardship of the environment. But we know that’s not true. A United Nations official has now confirmed this. At a news conference last week in Brussels, Christiana Figueres, executive secretary of U.N.’s Framework Convention on Climate Change, admitted that the goal of environmental activists is not to save the world from ecological calamity but to destroy capitalism. “This is the first time in the history of mankind that we are setting ourselves the task of intentionally, within a defined period of time, to change the economic development model that has been reigning for at least 150 years, since the Industrial Revolution,” she said. Referring to a new international treaty environmentalists hope will be adopted at the Paris climate change conference later this year, she added: “This is probably the most difficult task we have ever given ourselves, which is to intentionally transform the economic development model for the first time in human history.” The only economic model in the last 150 years that has ever worked at all is capitalism. The evidence is prima facie: From a feudal order that lasted a thousand years, produced zero growth and kept workdays long and lifespans short, the countries that have embraced free-market capitalism have enjoyed a system in which output has increased 70-fold, work days have been halved and lifespans doubled. Figueres is perhaps the perfect person for the job of transforming “the economic development model” because she’s really never seen it work. “If you look at Ms. Figueres’ Wikipedia page,” notes Cato economist Dan Mitchell: Making the world look at their right hand while they choke developed economies with their left.

      Investors Business Daily
      October 2015

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    David Maddison

    Chomsky is an example of an old-style Leftist that, unlike modern ones, actually believed in free speech.

    Noam Chomsky (1998): “The smart way to keep people passive and obedient is to strictly limit the spectrum of acceptable opinion, but allow very lively debate within that spectrum—even encourage the more critical and dissident views. That gives people the sense that there’s free thinking going on, while all the time the presuppositions of the system are being reinforced by the limits put on the range of the debate.”

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    David Maddison

    Australia has become basically an orgy of spending and wasting money produced by a diminishing number of net wealth producers for the benefit of Leftist elites.

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      Dennis

      I have no doubt that most Australians would be amazed if there was a national audit of known natural resources of minerals and energy on and off shore that is at present locked away from exploitation by State governments and Federal Government.

      And that close to fifty per cent of the land mass is controlled by Aboriginal Land Councils and individuals with another close to thirty per cent UN registered National Parks that were former State and Commonwealth lands.

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    Dennis

    Is it true that our new PM took a bouquet with him of flowers from a typical Australian public housing garden?

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    David-of-Cooyal-in-Oz

    Our ABC has discovered that there are a couple of things one should consider when using hydrogen as a fuel.

    https://www.abc.net.au/news/science/2022-09-17/artemis-nasa-moon-rocket-liquid-hydrogen-fuel-leak/101443226

    I doubt that anyone here will find brand new information within the story, but I don’t recall seeing anything like this, from them, in the last decade.

    Perhaps I missed it. I wonder if Twiggy did too?

    Cheers
    Dave B

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      David Maddison

      Hydrogen is even a nightmare for NASA to use.

      How the subsidy harvesters expect it to become a mass market consumer fuel is beyond comprehension.

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        Joe

        I think Bezos rockets use kerosene, SpaceX uses kerosene or methane for deep space operations.
        When you think about it HYDROcarbons are about the best method of transporting HYDROGEN for combustion.
        Methane is CH4 or 4 hydrogens per carbon which oxidises to CO2 and 2H2O.
        Octane combusts thus:
        2 C8H18 + 25 O2 → 16 CO2 + 18 H2O
        Producing approx. 46.6 megajoules per kilogram. How could you transport Hydrogen any better?

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          TdeF

          The idea is that they throw away the carbon and the associated energy and bury the carbon somehow. Sequester is the word they use. Which as you say, makes no sense at all unless CO2 was a toxic gas, not the one essential gas from which all life is made.

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      Robber

      Take intermittent power generated from solar and windmills and build an electrolyser to split water into hydrogen and oxygen.
      Now store the hydrogen, and then burn it to produce some energy with water as a byproduct.
      Efficient or cost effective? I think not.

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        ozfred

        Use the H2 to immediately make cheap ammonia (and urea). Would be a replacement for the imported ($$) fertilizer now used by the wheat and canola farmers

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    John Connor II

    Poor old Italy. From 70 year droughts to 0.5m rain flash floods, more rain than a typical year.

    Time constrained, diametrically opposed weather events is what I called, and here we go!

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    el+gordo

    Graham Lloyd in the Oz.

    ‘An international study of major weather and extreme events has found no evidence of a “climate emergency” in the record to date.’

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      Dennis

      God now had Noah do a strange thing. He told him to build a big ark. This ark was large like a ship, but it looked more like a big, long box. ‘Make it three floors high,’ God said, ‘and put rooms in it.’ The rooms were for Noah and his family, the animals, and the food all of them would need.

      God also told Noah to fix up the ark so that no water could leak in. God said: ‘I am going to send a great flood of water and destroy the whole world. Everyone not in the ark will die.’

      Book of Genesis

      Myth or not obviously heavy rainfall resulting in major flooding was known way back in time.

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        el+gordo

        It wasn’t a myth.

        A lot of people lived around the fresh water Black Sea and during the Holocene Thermal Max the Mediterranean flooded in.

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    John Connor II

    We are entering a new phase of the COVID-19 pandemic where most Americans could be protected against serious illness with a single, annual vaccine. It’s nothing new – it’s what we do with the flu.

    https://twitter.com/HHSGov/status/1570848872456413185

    Annual shots for everyone until you’re all gone..

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    RickWill

    Not new but I learnt of it today. Engie has been a AUD42M subsidy to build a hydrogen/ammonia plant in the Pilbara:

    French energy major Engie (EPA:ENGI) and Australian ammonia producer Yara Pilbara Fertilisers Pty Ltd today confirmed they will receive AUD 42.5 million (USD 32.8m/EUR 27.4m) in government funding for a green hydrogen project in Western Australia.

    https://renewablesnow.com/news/engie-yara-confirm-usd-33m-arena-grant-for-green-hydrogen-project-740088/

    The Yara plant is rated at 3700 tonne of ammonia a year. With current price of USD950/tonne that is AUD5.3M per year. So if the subsidy was the only cost then it would be around 8 years to payback. But we can only trust that Engie has put some of their own money at risk.

    This production will go into fertiliser so value adding.

    As a fuel source ammonia combustion is not simple and it delivers 20MJ/kg – about the same as dry wood. Volumetris specific energy is about a third of diesel.

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      Graeme#4

      Yara is already producing fertiliser using the cheap local gas. Not sure why they would want to branch away from this.

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        Graeme#4

        Just looked at their website, and Yara produces 840,000 tonnes of ammonia annually, around 5% of the world’s output. Also produces TAN, a useful product used by the region’s mines.

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      RickWill

      This link might work:
      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ITGatxfCLtg

      I would put it in the category of scattergun BS. As soon as anyone starts talking about Greenhouse Effect and photons related to Earth’s energy balance.you know for sure they do not have a clue about Earth’s climate.

      I am yet to get anyone to answer the very simple question – Why do open ocean waters ever experience clear sky?

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    RickWill

    PHON is pushing a royal commission into handling Covid. Their proposed terms of reference is here and there is opportunity to comment on them:
    https://www.onenation.org.au/covid-19-royal-commission-draft-tor

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    Tim

    Senator Rennick speech in the senate Wow I wish more politicians were this well informed on climate change. If they did the foolishness would be stopped dead in its tracks. It is 15 minutes worth watching

    My only concern with it, is that all the senators were not sitting in the senate. This must be the only workplace were you get paid even if you dont turn up. My wish would be that when the senate and house sit ALL members should be required to be present. Then we may get some real debate and the fakes would end up with egg on their face.

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      TdeF

      I gave a talk on the Carbon Dioxide scam and none of the journalists, people of the left turned up. The key point is that they already know it. Climate Change/Toxic CO2/Hydrogen/windmills/ solar panels/carbon taxes are all just part of the attack on Western Democracies and everyone on the left knows it. There are a few unfortunates who do not, but they are rare. And it is why the simple fact that man made Climate Change was not debunked thirty years ago is that it’s not news. Then you get Grumpy Greta, the iconic face of misinformation and despair and blah, blah, blah.

      But as Britain starts fracking, it will end very soon. Even the most idiotic acolyte knows it makes to sense to talk about stopping warming when everyone is freezing.

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        tonyb

        I think in the Uk it will be critical if we have a combination of a cold winter with little sun or wind whereby not only will we have power cuts, but the reason for them will be better known.

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      Doctor T

      If anyone else was present, they would likely have shouted him down for not wearing a mask.

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      Serp

      http://https//youtu.be/ITGatxfCLtg is not valid; generates error DNS_PROBE_FINISHED_NXDOMAIN

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      RickWill

      This link might work:
      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ITGatxfCLtg

      I would put it in the category of scattergun BS. As soon as anyone starts talking about Greenhouse Effect and photons related to Earth’s energy balance.you know for sure they do not have a clue about Earth’s climate.

      I am yet to get anyone to answer the very simple question – Why do open ocean waters ever experience clear sky?

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    yarpos

    Saw a red P plater driving a Tesla today. I wonder if EVs are exempt from power to weight limits usually imposed on what red P platers can drive? given the main bragging point for EVs is straight line acceleration, it seems a recipe for disaster.

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      tonyb

      Yes Sweden is interesting. They have had a lot of migrant gang attacks, arson and insurrection in the suburbs the last few years but its been mostly ignored by the MSM.

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        John in NZ

        For those of not Australian, what are P players. I have been in Australia on holiday and wondered what they were.

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          John in NZ

          Oops. Those of us not Australian, what are P platers?

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            Graeme No.3

            P = Provisional (licence). Given after passing the first Learner’s driving test.
            You can also be ‘down graded’ from a full license for offenses when driving esp. after you’ve had your driving license cancelled.
            Supposedly you are limited on what you can drive and how you behave.

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            David-of-Cooyal-in-Oz

            G’day John,
            P platers is the shorthand for the (usually young) newly-licenced drivers who are required to display their Provisional licence status with plates with the the letter “P” !! front and rear.
            Cheers
            Dave B

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            yarpos

            Red P plates in you first year of driving (so people know that you havent been driving long even though you have mad skillz)

            Green P plates until you have completed 3 years driving (I think)

            Alcohol and number of peer age limits apply , at least in Victoria. Probably varies by State.

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            John in NZ

            Gidday Graeme David and Yarpos. Thanks for that.

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      KP

      “Mr Jansson said his party once believed that Sweden’s ‘terrifically strong’ welfare state — offering free education, housing, medical care and copious child benefits — could cope with any problems of incomers with ease.

      ‘We didn’t understand that some don’t want to join our society; that they come here to live but not to work,’ he explained. ‘They are not interested in Sweden or its culture. We reach out to them but they don’t want to be reached.'”

      So naive.. Just like the people calling for Aussie to import another 20million people to stop the Chinese coming.. Jo, we need face-palm icons..

      Its way to late for Western Europe & the UK, they are lost to the Anglo-Saxons and in a generation or two they will be unrecognisable.

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    another ian

    High science (/s)

    “University Delenda Est, Part 2”

    https://market-ticker.org/akcs-www?post=246970

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    el+gordo

    US and Australia have different democracies, Beijing considers its options.

    ‘As Xi becomes China’s most powerful leader since Mao, his advisers have been working on a new form of democracy with “Chinese characteristics”. (SMH)

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    another ian

    Before you get excited about this

    “University of Rochester Researchers Go ‘Outside the Box’ to Delineate Major Ocean Currents”

    https://wattsupwiththat.com/2022/09/17/university-of-rochester-researchers-go-outside-the-box-to-delineate-major-ocean-currents/

    read the comment at

    “Rud Istvan
    September 17, 2022 2:46 pm
    I got suspicious from the ‘category of science’ for the paper posting: computer simulations, modelling. So they announce a new way to analyze computer models of ocean currents.

    Then I noticed the caption under the sidebar image showing the Antarctic circumpolar to be the most energetic as shown by the new method. ‘Currents from satellite observation’. I wondered, how can satellites ‘observe’ ocean currents?”

    Conclusion –

    “So this new paper fancifully touts a new method for garbage in>>garbage out. Lipstick on a pig. Still a pig.”

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    another ian

    “THE ARCTIC’S “TICKING CLIMATE BOMB”: LITTLE ICE AGE IMMINENT”

    https://electroverse.net/the-arctics-ticking-climate-bomb-little-ice-age-imminent/

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