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Too poor to cut coal use but rich enough to launch hypersonic weapons?

Were those hypersonic missiles carbon neutral?

Spot the odd one out: China has half of the worlds coal power fleet and the fastest growing nuclear power in the world. It is the world’s major manufacturing power, and has been for 11 years. It put a rover on Mars, has astronauts in its own space station (it’s third) and has flown to the far side of the moon.

But it’s a developing country and while all its largest competitors are giving up their cheapest electricity source, China isn’t even turning up in Glasgow and hardly anyone really cares.

China emissions exceed all developed nations combined.

“The country is currently running 1,058 coal plants”

China says that missile was just a spacecraft:

Now China also has surprising weapons.

China tested a nuclear-capable hypersonic weapon two months ago, making strides with the technology that surprised and alarmed U.S. officials, according to a media report.

In August, China launched a Long March rocket topped with a hypersonic glide vehicle, which ended up missing its target by just 24 miles (39 kilometers) or so, The Financial Times reported on Sunday (Oct. 17).

The newspaper cited five unnamed people familiar with the launch, two of whom “said the test showed that China had made astounding progress on hypersonic weapons and was far more advanced than U.S. officials realized.”

If someone had tried to set up a global scheme to cripple The West while helping China — it would have looked like the UNFCCC. China may not have started this off, and the West may be capable of suicidal self sabotage,  but the CCP would be crazy if they weren’t funding green groups.

Or even Green Parties:

Greens Pledge to Cancel AUKUS, Cut Australian Defence Spending Amid China Tensions

The Australian Greens have pledged to push for sweeping changes to the Australian Defence Force if they hold the balance of power at the next election, including cuts to defence spending and cancellation of the AUKUS alliance.

What more could President Xi want? Adversaries with a weaker industrial base and a weaker military.

The Greens are the CCP’s best friends.

China is rehearsing an invasion of Taiwan, and the West is planning to use our electricity plants to hold back the oceans.

China is not even trying to reduce carbon emissions:

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138 comments to Too poor to cut coal use but rich enough to launch hypersonic weapons?

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      Steve4192

      Beware rigged scales on graphs.

      Take a look at China’s population over just the last 100 years and you get an entirely different picture. Their population growth has almost completely stalled out, and their population is getting older. Not just older, but with an upside-down age distribution, where they have more people leaving behind their reproductive years than entering their reproductive years. By 2050, their population is going to be shrinking, not growing. Some models project their their population being HALVED by 2100.

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        Hanrahan

        That sounds the more likely scenario. The “one child policy” was real.

        AND China is about to have another of its periodical blood baths or mass starvations as Xi Jinping is toppled [violently].

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          Bruce

          And the sex ratio of that younger part o the population is hugely skewed.

          How does a central government keep thirty or so million hormone-charged, military-aged men “occupied”?

          Three guesses; second two don’t count.

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        Deano

        I heard just today that officially, China has had only 4 – yes FOUR! – deaths from COVID since April last year. Official Chinese government figures which must be right then.

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    Geoff+Croker

    Does Scott Morrison work for China or Australia?

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      Leo G

      Not sure who worked out our PM’s new policy of “All the way with ill Joe B”. Sounds like something from the 1960s,
      I doubt that it will work wonders for the Australian economy

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      Gaz

      Not sure, but Rudd and Turnbull certainly did.

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      Deano

      Scott, like “Our ABC”, now works for China but we still pay his salary because China is a poor developing nation and we’d be heartless selfish bastards if we didn’t help them.

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    Graham Richards

    Maybe Australia should be reclassified as a developing nation. It would appear that we’d be far more likely to be very much more important & wealthy & have the total admiration & respect of the western world. That would be better than being “the can being kicked down the road of Zero Emissions “.

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      America is well on its way to becoming a third world nation as a result of all the illegal immigration from the third world, inflation spiraling out of control and an inept and corrupt federal government that with the help of their enablers in the MSM, has been stealing power from the states and the people as they burden the future with unimaginable debts. It’s sad to see, but it’s already gotten to the point where the Constitution and Bill of Rights no longer matters to those in power.

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        RickWill

        The test for the USA will be when another country tells them they do not want to hold US debt.

        USA owes the rest of the world almost 100% of total annual economic output – USD15tr is the net position. At some point other nations are going to ask why should they hold US debt. What can it buy them. It is no longer military protection; US could not even defend Afghans against an internal menace. Another example, Taiwan holds USD239bn in US debt. What does that buy them. Can they use it to pay the US military to protect them from their mainland government.

        Since Biden came to office, USA is becoming increasingly dependent on the rest of the world. It has already slipped from oil self-sufficiency to oil dependency. The queue of ships off the west coast indicates there is a large volume of manufactured goods coming in from Asia.

        I will not be surprised if USA finds some countries unwilling to accept USD debt for real stuff they produce. China has asked the question but so far they are still holding about USD1tr. USD debt is rapidly eroding in value as the post Covid inflation kicks in.

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          Ian

          Here’s the other side of the US debt which you clearly do not know about. Never mind Biden he hasn’ t been president for very long but his predecessor ran up debt as if there was no tomorrow which, thank goodness, did happen as far as his presidency was concerned

          “One of President Donald Trump’s lesser known but profoundly damaging legacies will be the explosive rise in the national debt that occurred on his watch. The financial burden that he’s inflicted on our government will wreak havoc for decades, saddling our kids and grandkids with debt.

          The national debt has risen by almost $7.8 trillion during Trump’s time in office. That’s nearly twice as much as what Americans owe on student loans, car loans, credit cards and every other type of debt other than mortgages, combined, according to data from the Federal Reserve Bank of New York. It amounts to about $23,500 in new federal debt for every person in the country.

          The growth in the annual deficit under Trump ranks as the third-biggest increase, relative to the size of the economy, of any U.S. presidential administration, ‘

          https://www.propublica.org/article/national-debt-trump

          https://www.propublica.org/article/national-debt-trump

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            OriginalSteve

            One of the biggest damages to the USA is the systemic cripplng of the USA by the Left.

            Sleepy appears to be owned outright by the CCP.

            Now add in hypersonic tech the USA doesnt have, and anyone can smell trouble.

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            RickWill

            You are confusing international and national debt. They are vastly different things. USA gets away with not differentiating ONLY providing they maintain the privileged position of creating the world currency. China has already voiced its intention to stop piling up US debt.

            Since Biden came to office, USA has lost its independence on oil:
            https://ycharts.com/indicators/us_oil_net_imports

            You will see if you go back 5 years on the same chart, USA was regaining its oil independence under Trump. It is now sliding back to being net importer.

            US economy under Biden is on an uncompetitive path. All business costs will rise dramatically as the cost of basic inputs like energy spiral up in price due to restrictions on internal supply.

            US current account was improving under Trump until the impact of Covid:
            https://tradingeconomics.com/united-states/current-account
            But has remained sharply negative since Biden came to office.

            Anyone holding USD debt has a highly loss making asset under Biden. What is US going to trade with China to get Yuan to acquire all the goodies China makes like wind turbines and solar panels when China stops taking USD? Why should the rest of the world take a rapidly devaluing USD for tangible stuff they produce – like oil or flat screen TVs.

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            James Murphy

            Only someone with a mental illness and/or mental impairment would start saying “but what about Trump”, when the current president is seemingly desperate to accelerate the rate at which debt is accrued, and also accelerating the rate at which the US dollar is devalued.

            What policies have been put in place to reduce US debt since January? Are there any?

            Come on Ian, tell us, how has Brandon Biden improved the economy?

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        Graham Richards

        I’ll say it again & again!!
        USA is doomed to fall to Marxism! Not even 6 Donald Trumps can prevent that now. The swamp has overflowed into every single aspect of the USA, the cadres have infiltrated 95% of the administrations, justice, defence, education,technologies. It’s just a matter of time now!

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      Tel

      Give our recent economic policies, the money printing, and the damage done by lockdowns … we have decided we really want to be a developing nation.

      We haven’t got through the stagflation yet, and it might take a few more years to figure out what those vaccines really did to people, and that’s before assessing the general loss of trust and social cohesion.

      Presuming they don’t throw anything else at us … up in the air right now.

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        ColA

        Last I saw Covid-19 will cost Australia 1.2 Trillion, I bet it will be closer to 2 by the time they have woken up to how leaky vaccines really are.

        Now Scomo & Co. have been
        a) conned;
        b) blackmailed;
        c) jumped the fence;
        d) vote chased; or
        e) ALL OF THE ABOVE,

        to sign up to Net Zero, but they have

        NO PLAN
        NO ENGINEERING and
        NO COSTING

        What could possibly go wrong and will the greenies and China clean up the mess? Oh sure!

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          RickWill

          Covid has been a big earner for Australia. People have not been spreading their money on overseas trips. The current account is in the best shape it has ever been:
          https://tradingeconomics.com/australia/current-account
          If the AUD20bn per quarter surplus is sustained then in 7 years Australia will be a net creditor nation. Hopefully COP26 with put the developed world on a path to building fairy fart extractors by the millions and that is guaranteed to underpin high demand and high prices for Australia’s mined commodities.

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            clarence.t

            “high demand and high prices for Australia’s mined commodities”

            Lots of Aussie coal, iron ore and other minerals needed. 🙂

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          Graham Richards

          ColA,

          You forgot to mention “no balls, no self respect or respect for Australians”

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        OriginalSteve

        Tel, I’d suggest if people arent stocking up on basic commodity items by now ( nappies, fuel, soap, bleach, antiseptic etc etc ), its time to start.

        We get a lot of stuff from China, and a war and / or new designer virus, and our already damaged supply chains will collapse.

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    Don B

    ALL of the increase in global carbon dioxide emissions in the last 20 or 25 years has come from China, India and other Asian nations – but primarily from China.

    https://ourworldindata.org/uploads/2017/04/Global-CO2-emissions-by-region-since-1751.png

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    Zigmaster

    As a developing nation I assume this means that not only can they emit as much as they want but they are due for some of the billions of climate dollars to be transferred to developing nations.

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    Erasmus

    The loopy left has won. The west is in decline and there appears to be no counter to the insanity.

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      OriginalSteve

      Any political party that effectoively sells out the country or weakens it is guilty of Treason, yes?

      There are laws that cover such thing. And in war time, the penalty can be quite severe.

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    China has a vested interest in keeping the green scam going, as they supply the green virtue signaling hardware the climate alarmists need to feel better about themselves. China can’t rely on ‘green’ energy to produce green hardware, as it would become too expensive, even with massive subsidies. The same can be said for just about everything they manufacture, especially since the global economy is moving from one where the bulk of the value added to raw materials was labor to one where it’s energy.

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    Peter Fitzroy

    So we should emulate China, with its bad air quality and polluted rivers? Bring back lead in petrol, remove all scrubbers on exhausts stacks?

    The logic of this article is saying lets race to the bottom.

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      TedM

      Where in that above article does Jo suggest any of those things Peter Fitzroy?

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      Binny Pegler

      Or we could hold China to the same standard as everyone else. It they don’t comply … cancel them.

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        Peter+Fitzroy

        and would that be per person? if so then the USA is the worst, closely followed by the Aussies. is it by land area, then Russia wins. Maybe we should do it by skin colour?

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          James Murphy

          If you had any idea about science, well, first, you wouldn’t support AGW with religious fervour, but… if human generated CO2 is the problem, then the biggest generators of CO2 are the biggest causes of the problem.
          Only an idiot would start talking seriously about “per capita” CO2 generation as if it meant something.

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          Binny Pegler

          So it’s not really about total CO2 is it? It’s about politics and political finger pointing.

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      clarence.t

      “lets race to the bottom.”

      You have just described Net Zero, to a “t” !

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      David Maddison

      The article says nothing about allowing pollution in Western countries or China Peter.

      The point of the article is that China is a rich country, much like Western countries, but Leftists permit them to generate unlimited amounts of cheap fossil fuel and nuclear energy which the Left do not permit us to do in the West.

      All conservatives and other rational thinkers are opposed to the Chinese pollution of the air, land, water and food supplies and elsewhere.

      And “carbon” (sic, the inaccurate Leftist term for carbon dioxide) is not a pollutant, it is an emission from combustion processes, certain geological processes and animal respiration.

      The West should be allowed to emit carbon dioxide from cheap fossil fuel powered electricity generation and transport, just like the Chinese.

      Why do you Leftists consistently apply different rules to your beloved Chinese than you do to your hated Western Civilisation?

      And do you think you’d be allowed to protest against cheap, reliable energy if you lived in China? I didn’t think so…

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      Neville

      P F you are a silly fool. Today China has a very high life exp of 77 and it will increase again when some of their polluted areas improve.
      But Shanghai today has a life exp as high as most EU countries while very poor areas have a life exp akin to very poor African countries. WAKE UP.

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        Peter+Fitzroy

        and how will the air quality improve?

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          el+gordo

          The air quality would increase markedly if they eliminated the 360 million cars. Vehicle emissions are to blame for about 45 % of Beijing’s air pollution and 30 % of the Shanghai smogi.

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      Forrest Gardener

      Be a better troll.

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      Serge Wright

      That is amusing “We should emulate China….”

      PF – We don’t have a pollution problem down here, even with a FF run economy, because we are not a totalitarian run state that puts the environment and people last, and we don’t have a huge “socialism created” over-population problem. The question in your head needs to be “Why is China not moving to RE, even though they are the ones that produce this stuff” ?. The answer is bleeding obvious, but you first need to remove the green goggles.

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        Peter+Fitzroy

        how many koalas are there, how endangered are they? how much land clearing is allowable in Koala habitat? we are much worse than china environmentally.

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          el+gordo

          There has been a massive reduction by a third because of that severe bushfire season, a natural occurrence. Even though they are technically in danger, they are not endangered.

          ‘ … we are much worse than china environmentally.’

          No.

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          Binny Pegler

          Lots (no one knows the actual number because no one even tries to count them across vast areas) Not endangered at all. Only land clearing of koala habitat is in urban development.
          Which is a very small percentage of the total.

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          mobihci

          hmm, china feeds off the destruction of the environment –

          https://www.bbc.com/future/article/20150402-the-worst-place-on-earth

          “The intriguing thing about both neodymium and cerium is that while they’re called rare earth minerals, they’re actually fairly common. Neodymium is no rarer than copper or nickel and quite evenly distributed throughout the world’s crust. While China produces 90% of the global market’s neodymium, only 30% of the world’s deposits are located there. Arguably, what makes it, and cerium, scarce enough to be profitable are the hugely hazardous and toxic process needed to extract them from ore and to refine them into usable products. For example, cerium is extracted by crushing mineral mixtures and dissolving them in sulphuric and nitric acid, and this has to be done on a huge industrial scale, resulting in a vast amount of poisonous waste as a byproduct. It could be argued that China’s dominance of the rare earth market is less about geology and far more about the country’s willingness to take an environmental hit that other nations shy away from.”

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      Raving

      Countries need to take care of themselves. Pointlrss being world polkcemen..

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      KP

      “Bring back lead in petrol,”

      Gosh no, look how intelligent we have become since it was taken out! Haven’t you seen the far better decisions made by our “leaders”, the cutting-edge thinking of the people who worship Saint Greta?

      It was a great decision, well-worth the money we were forced to pay, and you can see the marvelous results all around you.

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    David Maddison

    Leftists clearly support all enemies of Western Civilisation including the Chicomms.

    At the very least Leftists of the West should be ignored.

    At worst they should be put on trial for treason.

    It is incomprehensible why anyone would think a country that has nuclear weapons, bioweapons, space stations, moon landings, a major manufacturing exporter is “poor”.

    And many Chinese cities are far more technologically advanced than Western ones.

    The Left actively make the common people of the West poor due to expensive green energy (while making the Elites rich) and actively facilitates China’s attack on the West and enabling the Chinese to profit from economically destructive “green” policies of the Left in Western countries. E.g. selling the West solar panels, and closing Western manufacturing due to expensive energy only for it to resume in China with cheap non-green energy.

    The help provided by the Left to the Chicomms even includes actively propagandising for them (that can even be seen on certain contributors on this free soeech blog) and includes:

    – protection of the Chinese communists against accusations that they were responsible for the WuFlu,

    – that Chinese “carbon” (sic) emissions don’t matter,

    – they say nothing about Chinese environmental destruction including massive dams so they can control the water supply of most Asian countries,

    – killing prisoners to order to harvest their organs and other human rights violations etc. etc..

    The Chinese are lucky to have so many useful idiot Leftist traitors of the West to assist them in their quest for world domination.

    Pakistan is another “poor” country with nuclear weapons and which is active in attacking the West including in support of terrorism and even hosting Obama bin Laden and lying about it. President Trump did the right thing by canceling US aid to them as punishment. I suppose Biden’s handlers will resume it.

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      Serp

      Since 1951 when the young Dalai Lama signed over Tibet China has assiduously honed its control of populations downstream by managing flood and drought.

      China’s control skirts Pakistan’s water courses; Pakistan’s remaining undammed would be because of its nuclear capability and presumed readiness to use it.

      Now had the boy Dalai Lama been invited on to the Manhattan Project…

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    rob dinn

    rational is not the whole picture east or west
    the 2 counties most vaccinated in Ireland have most virus cases https://balance10.blogspot.com/2021/10/the-2-counties-most-vaccinated-in.html

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      David-of-Cooyal-in-Oz

      Thanks rob,
      Not a happy report, but not unexpected. I’m afraid it’s a harbinger of what will happen here in NSW, and starting soon.
      Hoping I’m wrong,
      Dave B

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      David Maddison

      Because the vaxes on offer are not sterilising. COVID will run its natural course regardless of vaccination status. Eventually nearly everyone, vaxed or not will get infected and acquire effective natural immunity.

      If government, Big Pharma, the medical establishment and the Left aren’t lying, they claim that the vax results in less severe infection, less hospitalization and lower mortality.

      Naturally, news of possibly dangerous side effects such as death from the vax or other injuries is suppressed.

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        David-of-Cooyal-in-Oz

        Sorry D M,
        It’s my understanding that the jabs on offer to date actually severely adversely impact, or even destroy one’s natural immune system, so achieving any immunity with or from them is an impossibility.
        Rephrasing, it’s my further understanding that only the unvaxxed who can have, or get immunity.

        And yes, someone is lying to us, and some a happily passing on misinformation.

        Cheers
        Dave B

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          OriginalSteve

          Then logically, the unvaxxed could wind up running the nation…..as the unvaxxed with natural immunity may be literally the onluy ones left standing.

          Free 3/5/7 series Beemers anyone? Last owner no longer needs it on account of being dead/incapacitated by vax….?

          Now think of how many loans will be defaulted on and the damage to the banking system ……

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            Forrest Gardener

            Agreed. There are many catastrophic scenarios which might play out. The blood of the uninjected may be worth bottling.

            Anti-viral medications would seem to be the best way forward. And once the powers that be get desperate enough all sorts of medications might cease to be unspeakable.

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            hypersonic


            [SNIP. Hypersonic is not helping convince me he understands how to write without bring snipped? – Jo]

            Lets look at the facts we have so far.

            We know the vaxxed carry a higher viral load than the un vaxxed

            We know the anti body response from the vax lasts at best 3 months

            We know just as many Vaxxed get sick/die than the un vaxxed

            Why is this so, i have heard of two scenarios for this:

            Scenario 1, The vax is constantly churning out spikes so your immune system is constantly fighting the “infection”, the vax slowly wears your immune system down until there is not much left.

            Scenario 2, When get a virus or a traditional vax it is immediately recognised by your body and attacked, this is done via Toll like receptors which set off the alarm, this activates your dendritic cells and helper and killer T cells which is exactly what you want to happen.

            With mRNA however you get injected with trillions of little balls of crap whose job it is to travel everywhere in your body and brain to start creating spikes but your TLR and immune system would destroy most of them before they had the chance to do so. The fix was to get the balls of crap to disable your TLRS and hence your immune system first to ensure the little balls of crap had time to do their job.

            The evidence to support scenario 2 is only now being discovered is would appear many vaxxed individuals now have a very suppressed immune system (check CD4 and CD8 white blood cell counts), of course with 80 odd% of Australians double dosed this information has come far too late for them. The big test for this scenario will the upcoming harsh NH winter.

            LOL indeed GA

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        Leo G

        Natural immunity is not acquired but is the immunity from birth. A semantic point but an important one.
        In the case of infections such as SARS-CoV-2 the main component of natural immunity involves protection afforded by functions of mucosal and multi-ciliated cells in the upper airways which act to limit the cellular ingress of virions to concentrations below the level of sustainable infection.
        The majority of the population appear to have good natural immunity against all recent strains of coronavirus for the casual contact with infected individuals and lesser protection for sustained close contact. Even in the US the proportion of the population with detected infection has not yet reached 15%.

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          David-of-Cooyal-in-Oz

          G’day Leo G,
          Your “Natural immunity is not acquired but is the immunity from birth. A semantic point but an important one. ” is a surprise to me. Especially as it seems to completely deny the value of vitamin D to our immune systems.
          Do you have a link?
          Cheers
          Dave B

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            I think Leo is having a laugh.

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              hypersonic

              [SNIP Again.]

              I think this is too serious to laugh about,

              I agree with Leo to a point, it is true you have an innate immune response to any vector at birth, it is also true your immune response begins in the nasal cavity and throat, also many coronaviruses share common genomics, if your body recognises a common part of the flu genomic with covid genomic then you will most likely already have immunity and may just get a runny nose instead of hospitalisation.

              Obviously the initial viral load plays a role in disease development or as Leo states sustained close contact.

              [All commenters need to be able to submit comments that don’t need snipping. This is a basic requirement of commenting here. – Jo]

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            Leo G

            The distinction between natural (aka innate or non-specific immunity) and acquired immunity (aka adaptive immunity) is fundamental in immunology.
            Natural immunity involves all those mechanisms dealing with infection that are “built in” and which are subject to modifying factors (eg my reference to an anatomic factor in SARS-CoV-2 infection) and has responses characterised by inflammation and phagocytosis.

            Specific immunity involves recognition of “foreign” configuration and highly discriminating disposal of the configuration. The response differs from that of natural immunity in that it has memory, specificity, and heterogeneity.

            The concept of natural immunity in immunology does not deny the role of nutritional factors such as vitamin D status, rather it is regarded as an important modifying factor in immunologic processes, along with genetic, age, metabolic, environmental, anatomic, physiologic, and microbial.

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        shannon

        Through my World research and 32yrs of working in this medical field …I am fully aware of the possible long term side affects from this experimental sera….
        What is being spread around now …is the long term lasting affects of JUST getting Covid, naturally….It appears to follow the “scare war” and keep the ongoing fear, progressing…
        Have I been oblivious to learning of these long term affects…….or is the propaganda media etc using “divert” tactics away from the “soon to explode” long term affects from getting jabbed.???? Anyone out there know more??

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      dinn, bob

      mass injection for a reason maybe?–forced mass injection, hmm https://balance10.blogspot.com/2021/10/mass-injection-for-reason-maybe-forced.html

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    David Maddison

    While we have many useful idiots of the Left in Australia, including politicians, who love China and actively work against Australia and the West in general, the Australian Government officially has a more rational outlook plus we no longer give them aid in the form of direct cash payments but still reward them by allowing them to have unlimited “carbon” (sic) emissions.

    https://www.dfat.gov.au/geo/china/china-country-brief

    Australia raises a wide range of human rights issues with China including freedom of expression, freedom of religion, treatment of political prisoners and ethnic minorities (including abuses in Xinjiang and Tibet), torture, the death penalty, and the rights of legal practitioners and civil rights activists. Where appropriate, we also raise our concerns at multilateral fora such as the Human Rights Council.

    So fortunately there is at least one person in the government (the one who wrote the above) that does have a clue about China.

    Incidentally, as Australia descends further into dictatorship, several of those same human rights concerns Australia has with China also apply here.

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    Geoffrey+Williams

    This is just another China bashing excersize. And for what?!
    After all China is simply doing what most of us on this site would like our western governments to be doing . . ie burning coal to provide energy. It is also uses lots of nuclear power and is developing advanced nuclear too. In Australia we are too dumb to do this.
    At the same time it has more wind turbines than than any other nation, so how can western nations complain. Are the Chinese laughing at us behind closed doors? Answer pobably yes.
    Poor people; China definitely has a lot of those, so keeping energy prices low is important for them. Remember China is the worlds leading manufacturer. From silicon chips to mens pants.
    And then there are millions and millions of poor people throughout the world whose goverments will be paying lip service to climate change in order to get some crumbs of UN aid in order to install a handful of solar panels in order to run a few refrigerators. Not life changing.
    As for weaponry the biggest culprits by far are the western nations who sell arms to bankroll their economies.
    Ask yourself are our politicians here in the west any more honest than those in China . .
    GeoffW

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    David Maddison

    The fact that China has any wind or solar installed at all is only for the purpose of virtue signaling and pretending to do something about their “carbon” (sic) emissions.

    They are not stupid. They know you can’t run an industrial civilisation on wind and solar.

    But their investment in wind and solar is profitable both for virtue signalling purposes and to showcase installations so that gullible and stupid governments of the West will buy them.

    E.g. in Australia, extreme Sinophile and dictator, Daniel Andrews was so impressed with Chinese windmills that he decided to build Australia’s largest wind subsidy farm at Stockyard Hill, 530MW nameplate and which ruined the appearance of beautiful countryside. Naturally, Chinese windmills were used.

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      RickWill

      They are not stupid. They know you can’t run an industrial civilisation on wind and solar.

      China was seduced by the narrative more than most countries. They gave it a good tilt. They just admit the error sooner. It appears Boris is learning the lesson as well. I think Australia is quietly learning the lesson. After more than AUD50bn spent in 20 years to make the most of fairy fart extractors they contribute 0.3% to Australia’s energy output. A similar 0.3% from all the rooftops with solar panels so a total of 0.6% of Australia’s total energy output from weather dependent intermittent generators – its in official reports 124PJ out of 19,711PJ in 2019/20. Not much after 20 years and SHOULD beg the question – For what purpose?

      Australia can only hope that fairy fart extractors get wide support at COP26 because they are such resource hungry monuments. The current effort is already underpinning unprecedented demand for Australian commodities. Imagine if the effort could be ramped up 100-fold; the effort needed to get something meaningful over the next 29 years.

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    Travis T. Jones

    “too poor to cut coal use …”

    “In a seperate statement, the NDRC said it would ensure coal mines operate at full capacity and aim to achieve at least 12 million tonnes per day output.

    It put the production rate at a 2021 high of over 11.6 million tonnes as of Oct. 18, up more than 1.2 million tonnes from late September after an all – out effort to boost supply that has included approvals for new coal mines.”

    https://www.reuters.com/business/energy/china-coal-prices-drop-record-high-govt-weighs-intervention-2021-10-19/

    Prepare for worse doomsday global warming weather induced bushfires this summer, no matter what Oz does.

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    Ross

    The classification of China ( and other Asian countries) as developing is obviously contentious. I have not been to China but I suspect some correspondents to this blog have. I have only read articles on China where the writer describe how you don’t have to venture too far from the main cities before you quickly go into relatively primitive towns and settlements. So, third world stuff. Clearly their urbanisation % has increased in the last 30 years dramatically. Probably more so than any other country on earth. But, when you consider all their other accomplishments ( as Jo describes) its very difficult to see them other than a developing nation. But some of those characteristics are also shared by India. Hence, it might be time to think of India as a non developing nation as well because its not too far away that India actually exceeds China’s population. Anyway, I think Glasgow should be called COP OUT 26- it’s a total farce.

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    yarpos

    I thought this was funny

    Communism explained in 30 words:

    Sept 30: China orders energy firms to “secure supplies at all costs”

    Oct 19: China freaks out after energy firms secure supplies at record costs, Beijing threatens to intervene in market, arrest “colluders” pic.twitter.com/ZHZEcPlrcb

    — zerohedge (@zerohedge) October 19, 2021

    but I was only following orders dear leader

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    Ross

    …”But, when you consider all their other accomplishments (as Jo describes) its very difficult to see them other than a developing nation”. Probably should read -” its very difficult to see them as an impoverished developing nation”.

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    Steve of Cornubia

    I really do think the western world has gone totally batsh*t crazy.

    Take the UK. Roads are regularly blocked by eco terrorists. Islamic extremism is still killing innocents, right under the nose of the police. Petrol prices are soaring while shortages cause panic buying. Supermarket shelves are emptying. Energy prices have gone crazy, causing many power retailers to go bust. Covid cases continue to rise in spite of mass vaccination. Russian warships harass the Royal Navy fleet while Putin also runs joint war games with an increasingly dangerous China.

    And what is Boris Johnson doing? He’s delivering speeches about the menace of gas-powered water heaters.

    Seriously, is it any wonder fewer and fewer people have any faith in the ruling class?

    But more importantly – and bewildering – is how popular opinion counts for so little these days. Much of what is happening goes against what citizens want or expect. Yet our leaders plow on regardless, hell-bent on implementing their own (or their paymasters’) agenda.

    How much longer can this go on?

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      OriginalSteve

      Steve – to be blunt – its an engineered collapse created by the Elite. The Elite have either left the UK or have underground bunkers.

      I can see people retaliating against those repsonsible and it will be back to the 1500s……

      Hungry children will drive people to unspeakable things.

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    Some interesting news re Oz adopting the net zero nonsense:

    https://wattsupwiththat.com/2021/10/19/aussie-deputy-pm-rejects-immediate-net-zero-deal/

    Could this issue bring down the government?

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      Neville

      Yes David it probably will lead to a change to Labor and the Greens idiots in 2022.

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      Serge Wright

      I think Scomo would cave in rather than make an overule N_0 call. But if his irrational N_0 fantasy continues and he does the unthinkable, then yes it would cause a split with the Nats and we would get an early election.

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    Neville

    Here’s OWI data graph showing life expectancy since the IND REV.
    This a remarkable improvement and of course comes about because of the use of FOSSIL FUELS and the WEALTH, HEALTH and incredible research generated through more ONGOING R&D.

    The WORLD plus all other areas are shown on this graph.
    Interesting fact is that the 2 so called poor countries plus the poorest continent Africa have an average life expectancy today of about 71 years in 2021.
    China- 77 years
    India- 71 ”
    Africa 66 ”
    YET today China + India + Africa have about 4.1 billion of the 7.8 billion Humans on Earth. And today the average life expectancy for all humans is about 73 years.
    Don’t forget that the 8.2 million Aussies had a life exp of 68.8 years in 1950 and the 12.8 mil had a life exp of 71 in 1970.
    And Aussies have among the highest life exp in the world and today the 25.8 million have a life exp of 83.
    And world life exp was about 56.5 years in 1970 and pop of 3.7 billion.
    So where’s donkey Biden’s EXISTENTIAL THREAT and why are we holding this end of the world COMEDY fest in Glasgow??

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Life_expectancy#/media/File:Life_expectancy_by_world_region,_from_1770_to_2018.svg

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    Serge Wright

    China has a free pass on emissions and it’s obvious that the free pass will extend beyond 2030 into the never never. The Net Zero target is simply a political smoke screen. From a UN perspective it’s a case of “Nothing to see here, move along…”.

    And this is the big joke of emissions reductions. China produces the vast % of the very products we are told we need to use to go Net Zero and save the planet (which is becoming more hospitable every year), but somehow China needs to use coal instead. Bottom line is that if China can’t make a business or technical case to retire coal with wind and solar then you know it ain’t possible by any stretch for anyone else. Climate change and RE transition is the biggest BS lie ever perpetrated on humanity and yet all the leaders in the west can’t see the mile high pile of hot steaming BS that is a mm from their face and about to consume them.

    And as far as the the UN and Christina “Go” Figueres is concerned, they need to be shown the middle finger and it needs to be inserted.

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    hypersonic

    Some western countries have already developed hypersonic weapons and have now moved on to developing systems that can rack and destroy these types of systems

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    Brian Coates

    Note to mod could you please draw Jo’s attention to CSIRO capegrim CO2 data once again mother nature not following the narrative regards Brian Coates

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    Furiously+Curious

    My thought is that the Western ruling class has totally undermined itself. Having shipped manufacturing offshore, it has lost a big chunk of their investment portfolio, and as they have made huge profits from cheaper production, they are left with much less scope for productive investment. And the Chinese have ripped off all their patents.
    On the domestic front they have distracted the common folk with racism, and wokeness, while they are hoping they can control the hard left,(usually by co-opting) which is pushing for a total collapse of Western civilisation, as a way to destroy the ruling class. They may survive a generation or two, by controlling the technology, and private armies. So they have to survive the Chinese, and the hard left, both of which they have been instrumental in pumping up.
    We need miracles for any other outcome.

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    Neville

    According to the USA CDC there was a dramatic drop in 2020 to 2021 influenza deaths in the US and around the world. Note that in the last season only 0.2% of the tests were POSITIVE for influenza. In the previous 3 seasons 26.2 % to 30.3% were positive for influenza. That’s an enormous drop in positive flu cases and in a year when more testing was carried out. This was the lowest case numbers since these type of tests started in 2005.

    https://www.cdc.gov/flu/season/faq-flu-season-2020-2021.htm

    Here’s a short summary…..

    “Summary”
    What was the 2020-2021 flu season like?”

    “Flu activity was unusually low throughout the 2020-2021 flu season both in the United States and globally, despite high levels of testing. During September 28, 2020–May 22, 2021 in the United States, 1,675 (0.2%) of 818,939 respiratory specimens tested by U.S. clinical laboratories were positive for an influenza virus. The low level of flu activity during this past season contributed to dramatically fewer flu illnesses, hospitalizations, and deaths compared with previous flu seasons. For comparison, during the last three seasons before the pandemic, the proportion of respiratory specimens testing positive for influenza peaked between 26.2% and 30.3%. In terms of hospitalizations, the cumulative rate of laboratory-confirmed influenza-associated hospitalizations in the 2020-2021 season was the lowest recorded since this type of data collection began in 2005. For pediatric deaths, CDC received one report of a pediatric flu death in a child during the 2020–2021 flu season. Since flu deaths in children became nationally notifiable in 2004, reported flu deaths in children had previously ranged from a low of 37 (during 2011-2012) to a high of 199 (during 2019-2020)”.

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    They don’t have to detonate those warhead’s over land , they just have to take out your satalites and you would be thrown back to the stone age

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    Kalm Keith

    What are”emissions”?

    It would probably be close to the mark if it assumed that the International Authority which determines a country’s dangerous CO2 “emissions” uses the figures derived from coal fired power only. Dirty coal.

    If that’s the case, then a vast proportion of the planet which is not “connected” is not being counted.

    Very few parts of Australia do not have access to mainstream 240V 50 Hz but; by contrast there are many parts of the world which use old style power that creates CO2 but is missed in the accounting.

    Outback India, China, Africa, South America and so on would cook and stay warm with natural heat obtained by the burning of ;

    Wood, from nearby.
    Coal, which can also be converted to coke in some places.
    Scrub and grasses.
    Animal dung, dried.

    New Guinea, just to our North would be a good example of natural cooking and heating and consequent lung problems.

    Every human eats, roots and leaves, fish, birds and animal meat; and it’s cooked.

    Are all of the planet’s emissions being properly accounted for? If not, why not.

    In this outback scenario CO2 is no problem, the real catastrophe is the uncontrolled tars, oils, particulate matter and methane that reduce life expectancy.

    WHO? Where is Tedros Anhydrous when you need him.

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    RoHa

    I’m sure that missile was solar powered.

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    John Watt

    Recently sent Comrade Bandt pictures of an Adolf parade and a Ping parade. Striking similarities! As a barrister I am sure he gets my message but does not reply. However he and Comrade Ardern have this thing about “floating Chernobyls “. Wonder how many CCP “floating Chernobyls” reported on the recent military practice sessions in Central Queensland? The ships were obvious but that’s not Ping’s way of doing things Maybe some also check out NZ waterways from time to time?

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      yarpos

      I love they way they hark back to Chernobyl eith no context, and no sense of the passage of time. Its like saying its to dangerous to drive because the road toll was just awful in 1971.

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    Rick

    The Greens Party is indistinguishable from a 5th Column movement. Look that up ad you’ll see exactly what I mean.
    As such they should be banned and deregistered as a political Party but are rather a terrorist movement actively seeking and working to destroy the culture and fabric of Australian society and replace it with a Marxist dictatorship. Their policy initiatives clearly demonstrate that theses are their aims. They hate liberty and freedom of thought and their only tolerance is reserved for those who agree with them and their narrow aims.

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      Forrest Gardener

      To the 5th column can be added their ABC, the entire public service, the universities and the horses they rode in on.

      Funny though how the greens went from favouring conservation of nature to favouring destruction of society.

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    Philip

    I have to wonder whether we’d be better just jumping on the China bandwagon, make them our allies. We could be their farm and mine, not that we aren’t already, in return for security. Tell the US to shove Pine Gap. But saying that, why don’t Aus use Pine Gap as a bargaining chip ? The US would have problems without it.

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      Steve of Cornubia

      Just look up how well ‘vassal states’ have fared in the past …

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        Philip

        Yes. But given we have to sacrifice energy and jobs for our overlords to protect us, aren’t we a vassal state anyway ?

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          Steve of Cornubia

          Subservient maybe? Dependent for sure, but real vassals, I don’t think so. If we were, the US would fill most of Australia’s senior positions with their own people. An American would be Deputy PM – that sort of thing.

          How would China behave if we truly were vassals? I reckon they would be running the joint holus bolus and the shenanigans we saw in HK would be repeated here. What Dictator Dan got up to in Melbourne would be games in comparison.

          Benevolent rulers they most certainly would NOT be.

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            Philip

            oh yes you would have to do as they say, no doubt. No, I think I’ll stick to the status quo. Trouble with Australia has always been protecting it. We did well but things are becoming a bit different these days.

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      yarpos

      With technology changes Pine Gap is nowhere near as critical as you imagine it to be.

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    Geoffrey+Williams

    Ozzie, ok so China has a very controlling form of governence.
    Despite that I believe that on the whole they have a happy and cohesive society.
    We too have isuues of control in western democracies, just look at the power of the left wing media such as our own ABC here in Australia. In many ways just as authoritarian as any regime.
    Show me a perfect society anywhere . .
    GeoffW

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    RickWill

    I just had a sickening thought. Australia is selling its coal and gas WAAAAY too cheaply.

    Australia has spend at least AUD50bn over the last 20 years to buy and erect wind generators and install solar panels on every third roof. All that expenditure to produce 124PJ in 2019/20 from those intermittent sources that are already beginning to need replacement.

    To pay for those near useless energy extractors (.0.6% is close to useless), Australia exported about 15,900PJ of the 19,711PJ of energy produced in that year and similar quantity for the last 20 years. So Australia exports fossil fuels that produce about 100X more energy than the extractors we get in return will produce in their lifetime.

    Somehow I think that is not a sensible way to conduct a country. Australians are giving up their bounty too easily – a raw deal for sure.

    Where will Australia be when all the coal and gas is gone and all those wind energy extractors and solar energy extractors are worn out?

    On the brighter side, after China has liberated all the carbon in Australia’s fossil fuels, forests will be growing so profusely in Australia that we will have a hard time controlling them – not a lot different to now. We just have to set up an industry to harvest the wood and burn it in a controlled way rather than letting it go up in an explosive fire-storm every few years.

    The other thought that comes to mind is – what would be the required life of a solar panel and battery combination to give more energy out over their life than they consumed in their manufacture. A good question for anyone contemplating dumb ideas like net-zero.

    Australia’s energy data can be found here:
    https://www.energy.gov.au/sites/default/files/Australian%20Energy%20Statistics%202020%20Energy%20Update%20Report_0.pdf

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      Dennis

      Do you remember the discussions regarding security including more manufacturing activities in Australia over recent years?

      Apparently part of the not yet confirmed net zero emissions proposal will be liquid fuel security including a ban on the export of oil, the already announced assistance to keep the few remaining oil refineries operating and for the small boutique refinery converting coal into liquid fuel to be expanded and others constructed. EV would be used by government departments and employees entitled to cars in the cities.

      I wonder if the agreement for Australia to have access to US oil reserves and the purchase of a considerable amount now being stored in the US until storage is available in Australia is another part of the above?

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    Dennis

    Do your own research, check out now deceased Canadian billionaire Maurice Strong who started out as a UN employee and became a high wealth individual over time, and was one of the key players in creating natural climate change as a climate and warming hoax for political purposes and reasons. An associate of people like Al Gore and George Soros.

    Strong’s cousin was a girlfriend of Chinese Chairman Mao Zedong who founded the People’s Republic of China and who wrote the communistic Little Red Book.

    When Strong was a wanted man in Canada for environmental law breaking he fled to China and was granted asylum, and he later died there.

    Most here know that the climate hoax is really about politics and money, and as Christiana Figureres and other UN Officials have admitted part of their plan to destroy capitalism as the world knows it that has brought prosperity to developed nations and in turn benefits of foreign aid to developing nations. China is a developing nation, why is it? Because it is the UN favourite, a source of cheap managed and controlled labour with capitalism permitted for the selected loyal comrades who are trusted.

    Join the dots, discover more because the history timeline and participants are reshaping our lives.

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      Philip

      Yeah I have heard of him now that I read that description. But had obviously forgot, took me a while to work it out. Extraordinary story.

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    Raving

    Heat pump grants worth £5,000 to replace gas boilers not enough, say critics

    An air-source heat pump costs between £6,000 and £18,000, depending on the type installed and the size of a property.
    Ministers say the subsidies will make heat pumps a comparable price to a new gas boiler. However, the £450m being allocated for the subsidies over three years has been criticised as insufficient.
    Experts also point to the need for costly new insulation and other home improvements to help households get the best out of the switch.

    China poor. UK rich

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    TedM

    How did China get the hypersonic technology. Listen from 37 minutes in on this link to Steve Bannon’s war room.

    https://rumble.com/vnycft-episode-1346-patriotism-is-still-alive-and-well.html

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    TdeF

    You have to love those people sucked in by the fraud of coal driven Climate Change, which is nonsense. Demonstrably untrue. And the temperature in 2021 was exactly what it was in 1980, according to the Satellite record of UAH.

    Still, they are experts

    “Why Xi dare not turn his back on king coal” by Roger Boyes Of course he is a “British journalist and author”.

    There is another reason, the truth that dares not speak. No one in China believes a word of it. They don’t have our leftist gullible press.

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      TdeF

      Of course the delicious irony of China declaring a crippling economic war on Australia for daring to ask whether the Wuhan flu came from Wuhan is that we are getting nuclear submarines and that the price of coal has increased x3 for thermal coal and x4 for metallurgical coal, which Indonesia cannot supply. The contracts the Chinese broke would have supplied at $75 a ton, shipments they let rot on the wharf and now have to pay $300 to $400 a ton. And we can afford submarines.

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      Kalm Keith

      Gullible?

      I think that power mad and avaricius might be more applicable.

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    John R Walker

    ‘and the West may be capable of suicidal self sabotage…’

    This seems to be the real problem – not China or Russia using their brains. Look at this total pie in the sky garbage released yesterday by the UK government.

    https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/net-zero-strategy

    ‘The Net Zero Strategy will be submitted to the United Nations Framework Convention on Climate Change (UNFCCC) as the UK’s second Long-Term Low Greenhouse Gas Emission Development Strategy under the Paris Agreement.’

    We take years to get (partly) out of the EU so we’re ‘independent’ but actually we have just changed one jackboot heel for another jackboot heel… This is down to the stupidity of our own groupthink political class. There is no need for China or Russia to do anything at all – they are quite capable of screwing up everything they touch all by themselves!

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    TdeF

    And you get news like this..

    “Rio Tinto will spend $10bn to slash its carbon emissions”

    You think they could spare a few million to investigate whether man made CO2 driven tipping point rapid Global Warming was real?

    Why would anyone spend $10Bn? Australia is spending $6-$12Bn to pump water up hill. And our carbon taxes hidden in our electricity bills exceed $6Bn a year. All for something which is not true, warming which is not happening and CO2 in perfect equilibrium.

    And supposedly blogs like this are funded by Big Oil, Big Coal, Big Gas? A slice of the $1,500,000,000,00 a year spent on preventing CO2 increase would have fusion energy available next year. Which would be a good thing.

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      Dennis

      Meanwhile Australia is potentially facing military action against us and our politicians squander money on useless things instead of defence assets.

      Yes I realise that defence spending has been increased but not enough under the circumstances prevailing.

      In their 2006/07 Budget the Howard Government (Liberal-National Coalition) reported an increase in real terms on defence of 37% since the last Labor Budget for 1995/96. And a commitment to a real funding increase of 3% every year for the next decade (2006-2016).

      The Labor governments 2007-2013 dishonoured that commitment, they cut back on defence spending. So now there needs to be a catch up and increases.

      And stop stupid net zero emissions politics and loss of tax revenue and export earnings.

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      David Maddison

      Corporations have a legal responsibility to get a good return for shareholders.

      I don’t understand how spending $10 billion on reducing “carbon” (sic) emissions is consistent with that.

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    Dennis

    Today’s amusing comment, multi-billionaire Australian Andrew “Twiggy” Forest said that nuclear power stations are not a good idea because they might lead to production of nuclear weapons.

    He was not asked about his iron ore mining investments and production of military equipment and weapons.

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      David Maddison

      He plans to invest in “green” hydrogen.

      I wonder what he plans to do with all the CO2 generated by the coal to hydrogen process?

      I guess he’s OK with China, North Korea, Pakistan and Iran having nuclear weapons?

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    Pollution et pollution

    http://globaleconomicanalysis.blogspot.fr/2014/11/historic-hype-over-global-warming.html

    Pareillement qu’il est facile d’accuser une famille nombreuse de plus consommer qu’un célibataire et donc de taxer le grand nombre de tous les maux de la Terre, dernièrement un économiste a publié un graphique sur les pays les plus gros consommateurs de pétrole (donc: pollueurs). Graphique qui montrait la Chine, les USA, l’Inde et la Russie les quatre premiers d’une liste de 19 pays sélectionnés comme étant les plus pollueurs.

    Oui mais, de la même façon que l’on peut citer Monaco et Macao comme étant les pays les plus peuplés de la Terre (au km²), je répondrais pour les pollueurs que c’est en fait le contraire !

    Compte tenu du nombre d’habitants et de la quantité de pétrole consommée, l’Arabie Saoudite arrive largement en tête des pays les plus pollueurs de la Terre ! Cela vous étonne ? C’est bien d’ailleurs la première fois que vous lisez un tel article face au bassinnage médiatique quotidien que c’est La Chine qui est le plus gros pollueur monstrueux de la Terre !

    1 — Arabie Saoudite
    2 — Australie
    3 — Canada
    4 — USA
    5 — Corée du Sud
    6 — Russie
    7 — Allemagne
    8 — Afrique du Sud
    9 — Japon
    10 – Italie
    11 – Royaume-Uni
    12 – Chine
    13 – Turquie
    14 – Argentine
    15 – Mexique
    16 – Inde
    17 – Indonésie
    18 – France
    19 – Brésil

    Car, c’est bien au nombre d’habitants qu’il faut regarder (et non à la superficie d’un pays). L’Alaska avec ses 731.000 hab. et 1.717.854 km² consomme plus d’énergie par le fait qu’il y fait froid et que la lumière est manquante dans l’hiver long. Pareillement que le sont d’autres en Europe du Nord (Norvège, Suède, Danemark, Finlande, Islande, etc) mais qui ne sont listés dans les 19 choisis, la consommation de pétrole par habitant doit être plus élevée qu’en Afrique, car je ne pense pas qu’ils aient choisi de brûler du bois des forêts où les arbres poussent lentement, ni qu’ils se contentent de se chauffer avec des arêtes de poissons !

    https://huemaurice5.blogspot.com/2014/11/pollution-et-pollution.html

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    Lumière n’est pas tellement important pour la question usage d’énergie juste en Suède et Norvège, comme on a beaucoup de ressources aquatiques pour produire électricité.
    Pourque tout le monde puisse suivre tes commentsires, il vaut mieux d’écrire en Anglais, le blog ici est un Australien, et Francais n’est pas tellement courant ici, malheureusement 😀
    Ça te dit un Allemand 😀 😀

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    Pollution and pollution

    http://globaleconomicanalysis.blogspot.fr/2014/11/historic-hype-over-global-warming.html

    In the same way that it is easy to accuse a large family of consuming more than a single person and therefore of taxing the large number of all the evils of the Earth, recently an economist published a graph on the countries that consume the largest oil consumption. (therefore: polluters). Graph which showed China, the US, India and Russia in the top four of a list of 19 countries selected as the most polluting.

    Yes but, in the same way that Monaco and Macao can be cited as being the most populous countries on Earth (per km²), I would answer for polluters that it is in fact the opposite!

    Considering the number of inhabitants and the quantity of oil consumed, Saudi Arabia is far ahead of the most polluting countries on Earth! Does that surprise you? It is indeed the first time that you read such an article in front of the daily media flood that it is China which is the biggest monstrous polluter of the Earth!

    1 – Saudi Arabia
    2 – Australia
    3 – Canada
    4 – USA
    5 – South Korea
    6 – Russia
    7 – Germany
    8 – South Africa
    9 – Japan
    10 – Italy
    11 – United Kingdom
    12 – China
    13 – Turkey
    14 – Argentina
    15 – Mexico
    16 – India
    17 – Indonesia
    18 – France
    19 – Brazil

    Because, it is the number of inhabitants that we must look at (and not the size of a country). Alaska with its 731,000 inhabitants. and 1,717,854 km² consume more energy because it is cold there and light is missing in the long winter. Similarly to others in Northern Europe (Norway, Sweden, Denmark, Finland, Iceland, etc.) but which are not listed in the 19 chosen, oil consumption per capita must be higher than in Africa, because I don’t think they chose to burn wood from the forests where the trees grow slowly, nor that they just heat themselves with fish bones!

    https://huemaurice5.blogspot.com/2014/11/pollution-et-pollution.html

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      Tel

      They count exports against the country where the fuel gets dug up.

      That’s why Saudi Arabia is at the top (oil exports) and Australia is second (coal and gas exports).

      It has very little to do with how long ordinary Australians leave the lights on.

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        Raving

        If the Jello sticks to the tree then keep throwing it.

        Energy producers are the bad boys in all this. Without energy production we would all be at net zero TODAY.

        Cannot strand those fossil fuel assets quickly enough!

        /sarc

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    Daffy

    We know the connection between industrial capability and military victory. WW2 was lost by the Axis because the Allies out produced them at every point. The US, actually, but the Brits were quite a powerhouse of industry too. The US production was staggering. Just a few tidbits from memory: One liberty ship a week typically, with a ‘burst’ at some time of one a day! One US factory produced more Liberator bombers than the entire Japanese production of aircraft. The US produced 300,000 aircraft during the war! Now that China has the world’s manufacturing, they could walk over whoever they wanted to. They would start, of course, by ceasing to supply pharmaceuticals, as no one else seems to make those either.

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