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400 Spies for Trump suddenly offer their services

Remarkable things are starting to happen. The institutions of “Intelligence” say there’s no fraud, yet hundreds of people working in the US intelligence community are volunteering to help investigate the 2020 election.

CISA called the election “the most secure in US history”. The head of the Dept of Justice said there was no evidence of fraud. And the FBI sat on the Laptop from Hell for a whole year, but sorted out the Nashville bomber in 48 hours.

US Flag, Flying.According to Robert Caron, a former CIA operative, a group of intelligence agents have gathered together behind the scenes to investigate what’s been going on in the US Election. It’s like a shadow CIA and FBI. Foreign interests may be able to buy off a few key rulers but they can’t buy all the patriots.

They are coming out of the woodwork:

More than 400 Ex-intelligence Officers to Investigate Election Irregularities

Tom Ozimek, Epoch Times

” Over 400 people from the Intelligence Community (IC), military, law enforcement, and the judiciary have formed a loose network to investigate irregularities in the 2020 election.

Caron said that the network includes former intelligence officers, analysts, operatives, military, law enforcement, and judiciary from the FBI, CIA, Military Intelligence, DIA, and National Security Agency (NSA), among others, as well as many former intelligence officers in other countries.

“The fraud was so massive and so blatant, despite what the mainstream media said, that we need to get this information out to the public,” said Caron. “That’s why more and more people from the intelligence community and law enforcement are coming out, which is unheard of.”

Apparently many intelligence officers were not happy about the Benghazi incident under Barack Obama’s rule, and that was when the unofficial team started.

One voter, four votes, isn’t that how it works?

Perhaps the intelligence officers are motived by video’s like this one:

Meanwhile the numbers are growing in Congress too.

 

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    dinn, rob

    you need this one: breaking
    -2-2021https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IKiyAy9vjrk

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      RickWill

      This to correct the link:
      https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=IKiyAy9vjrk

      This is the best of any presentations I have seen on the election process in Georgia and the granular detail of how the fraud was carried out.

      No one involved in elections in Georgia will be safe from prosecution. I had not realised before this that it was actually Richard Barron who made the comment on the high number of adjudications.

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        M Seward

        What complete horesemanure. The video shows a couple of persons doing stuff in frame but without sound with a bunch of edited over text comments etc. Hmmm? Who is drafting the text comments? Who says that is even remotely what is actually happening as against the video just being some sort of spoof/scam fabrication.

        Where is the ‘cross examination’ to test this ‘evidence’. Innocent until proven guilty is the legal norm in this country and the US. I reckon the persons in the video have grounds for defamation as at least one is effectively accused of criminal activity.

        This driven is far more likely to be part of Trumplethinskin’s scam to stay in power. Tactic: accuse the Dems of election fraud, drag in any Republicans who are Trump lite and let the SOB’s try and deny it.

        The real fraud of course is the accusation of fraud by Trump. Hey its pulled in 2 or 3 hundred million in sucker donations. What a hoot.

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          OK. So why won’t they allow a full forensic Audit then, and put the claims to rest?

          Full transparency and an honest vote would heal the nation. What are they afraid of…

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            M Seward

            I don’t know if they have or have not considered this particular instance in Georgia. They might have taken one look at the sexed up video, spoken to the people involved who gave a simple, rational and honest explanation that they were just doing some bog standard task. WHo knows but that has as much substance asthe BS type over text in the video.

            Going by the rate at which these sort of claims have been looked at nby a whole range of US courts the overwhelming probability is that this one too is just legal flatulence aimed at creating the impression of some sort of stink.

            Gee Jo, I thought this was a ‘skeptic’ friendly site. I might just stick to reading my Peter Ridd for a robust discourse on matters.

            Trump has turned out to be an all but complete flop who promised to ’empty the swamp’ but simply recolonised the swamp with his own pet critters.

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              And if journalists or courts were doing their jobs, we the people, wouldn’t be left wondering at videos like this. After nearly a month now, neither the courts or anyone in power has explained the incidence of suitcases under the tablecloth full of ballots, and the media haven’t reported it much either.

              The only thing we know for sure is that the judges and journalists are either too scared, too political or too paid-off to give us the full story.

              For a guy who says he wants healing, Joe Biden is in no rush to even listen to concerns of half of America. He could fix this in a week… if only he had won honestly, he would be able to.

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                I know I said I wont enter into these discussion but I made comment on this at the time so I am just following up. This is something that was debunked within 24 hours by officials and people in power – was it early December?

                The supposed “suitcases” were actually normal, unexciting ballot containers, an investigator for the Georgia Secretary of State told fact-checking site Lead Stories, and state officials who reviewed the tape have said it showed standard processing of ballots.

                [a sentence taken from one of the many news items covering this long ago]

                Voting and government officials made note of the context when viewed in full (not edited) and also that the voice overs claim of “suitcases” was factually incorrect. The whole thing has been explained at length.

                But on Monday, Georgia’s secretary of state office dedicated part of a morning news conference to debunking that falsehood and many others, in what was called “Disinformation Monday.” Gabriel Sterling, the voting implementation manager in Georgia and a Republican, said in the news conference that watching the entire surveillance footage of Election Day showed that workers had first packed the suitcases with valid, uncounted ballots and then later unpacked those same ballots. They had not taken out suitcases full of fake ballots, he said.

                hmm he used the word suitcases meh

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      RickWill

      This video happened to follow the one on Georgia:
      https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=uRPqAq-Ptfk

      Really interesting because it exposes the smarmy, know-it-all, anti-trump bias of the talking heads in legacy media.

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        Another Ian

        Thoughts from the break:-

        Where do you find the most fact in a modern newspaper?

        In the crosswords

        And remember tv doesn’t have crosswords

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      RickWill

      One aspect that comes out of the video is that adjudication destroys the original image. The ballot image may no longer represent what the voter intended.

      I believe Richard Barron will be in front of a court today to give evidence why the original Fulton County ballots should not be inspected.

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        Serp

        Yes. that was counter to my understanding of how the process is accomplished.

        One has to ask in this time of ultra cheap memory how can it be impossible to store an image of the original as well as the adjudicated ballot’s image particularly since the original ballot is to be kept for twenty-two months.

        Whoever thunk up that work process must have been raised in the forge and utter community.

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      OldOzzie

      President Trump Speaks to 300 State Legislators From AZ, MI, WI, PA and GA in Zoom Call, Urges Them to Decertify ‘Unlawful’ Election Results

      A communication sent to participating state legislators after the call summarized Professor Eastman’s argument during the call about the specific “Constitutional imperatives” of state legislators.

      State legislators, Eastman stated, have both the right and duty to:

      . Assert your plenary power
      . Demand that your laws be followed as written
      . Decertify tainted results unless and until your laws are followed
      . Insist on enough time to properly meet, investigate, and properly certify results to ensure that all lawful votes (but only lawful votes) are counted.

      In that subsequent communication, Kline encouraged the state legislators to:

      … agree to sign on to a joint letter from state legislators to Vice President Mike Pence to demand that he call for a 12-day delay on ratifying the election, allowing the states the necessary time to further investigate the lawlessness with which the presidential election was conducted. We also request that you send this message out to fellow legislators to ask them to sign on to the letter as well.

      Click here to see the more than 1,400 pages of evidence presented to the state legislators.

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        OldOzzie

        President Trump Files Two Lawsuits Against Dirty Georgia Secretary of State Raffensperger for Leaking Confidential Litigation Call

        Raffensperger’s team leaked the call to the far-left Washington Post.
        It took 24 hours for the Washington Post to publish a hit piece, using edited audio clips, on the president’s phone call.

        Georgia Republican chairman David Shafer later announced that President Trump and his team filed two lawsuits against Secretary of State Raffensperger.

        David Shafer: President Donald Trump has filed two lawsuits – federal and state – against Secretary of State Brad Raffensperger. This was after Raffensperger secretly recorded the “confidential settlement discussion” of that litigation that is still pending. The audio published by the Washington Post is heavily edited and omits the stipulation that all discussions were for the purpose of settling litigation and confidential under federal and state law.

        Dirtbag Brad Raffensperger is in serious trouble.

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          Tilba Tilba

          Raffensperger’s team leaked the call to the far-left Washington Post.

          John Dean (of Watergate notoriety) suspects that Trump – or someone in the White House – recorded and released the tape (for reasons not clear). Whatever, it has very bad optics for Donald Trump, and not at a good time. I wonder if it will have impact on the Georgia run-off elections for the Senate.

          Anyway – apparently technical types can determine which end did the recording.

          Speaking of the Senate, presumably VP-Elect Kamala Harris – who has yet to resign her Senate seat – will get to vote on any objections on Wednesday, on issues relating to her future employment. I suppose it’s possible she might stay away and recuse; Joe Biden doesn’t need a Senate vote to be confirmed.

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            Lucky

            It is “bad optics” indeed to mention that fraud has legal consequences.

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            David A

            The suitcases with ballots were processed, after the counting was stopped and observers sent home.

            And zero “skeptics” of voter fraud have addressed Jo’s correct assertion that every effort to audit the election has been heavily resisted and most all successfully and willfully blocked.

            It is not complicated.

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          sophocles

          Raffensperger and team took the bait.

          Life for them will become very interesting. The warning about today’s Senate election election being under the microscope was very clear. At least it was to me, if it wasn’t to the Washington Post.

          I’ve noticed that some people take extreme sarcasm very literally …

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      OldOzzie

      The Cheat In Plain Sight

      Kevin McCullough

      Georgia is a state where Biden supposedly “won” by 12,000 votes.

      Yet in their simple—easy to understand—no conspiracy theories needed (though they might exist and explain some things) explanation—these data scientists proved inaccuracy in the certified results large enough to immediately cancel the “certification” and award the state to President Trump.

      In fact the data is so clear that they were able to flip the state in three counties without involving Fulton County.

      They didn’t need any outside testimony, they didn’t have to make connections to foreign governments or dead people and they explained how the cheat held up under a canvass and low intensity recount.

      They relied upon the data as certified by the Georgia Secretary of State (who should probably go to jail) and they drew their conclusions based on the logs as votes were tallied in real time. So save your breath if you think you’ve already got the answer to their conclusions because the original source material they drew upon is the certified numbers that the state allocated electors for. They are inaccurate. They do not represent the will of the state of Georgia. And they are definitive proof of an overwhelming win by Donald J. Trump—at least in Georgia.

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        Tilba Tilba

        The average of polls showed Joe Biden was ahead of Donald Trump in Georgia in every poll from 28 September through 3 November – with a lead around 1.4% … he actually won by less than that.

        Therefore I find it puzzling that many people (including Donald Trump) believe vehemently that Joe Biden could not possibly have won the Georgia election, when it was predicted. I don’t think I’m missing anything here, but I am willing to be corrected on the logic.

        (BTW I don’t accept that pollsters themselves as an industry are fraudulent and publish biased results).

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    robert rosicka

    Years ago I was taught that if a person was up to no good in a store they would constantly look around to see if anyone was watching .

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    Susan Fraser

    Wow, that is blatant organized crime

    Thank you Jo for bringing this to us. And to the brave person who filmed this team duplicating votes.

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    David Maddison

    Sadly, for the Left and Deep State, irrefutable evidence of fraud is irrelevant.

    They simply don’t care or worse, know what they’ve down and are proud of it.

    It is an actual coup d’état so all they care about is that Trump, the rightfully elected candidate is removed and replaced with the imposter Biden, who himself will soon be replaced with the intended candidate Harris. (They chose Biden because, due to his dementia, removal from office for medical reasons would be a plausible excuse.)

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      Yonniestone

      All that matters is how many of America’s military care for the oath they swore when enlisting, if all peaceful constitutional avenues fail these are the numbers that matter.

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        Hanrahan

        I suspect that outside the Pentagon Trump has loyalty from the services.

        The Marines are the praetorian guard, they have barracks close to the WH and I think/hope they are rock solid. There are stories of clashes between them and the CIA already. Where’s Gina? Do the Marines know?

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          TedM

          POTUS has the support of the special forces, the marines, most of the senior officers in the army and the navy. I’m not sure that the air force senior officers have made their position clear. But generally the military supports DJT the POTUS.

          It is the CIA, FBI and DOJ that have senior officers that are either compromised or support the globalist agenda, and therefore appose the POTUS.

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      OriginalSteve

      Well…heres a change up of things.

      This is an interesting development.

      https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-01-04/asio-red-flags-liberal-donor-over-foreign-interference-risks/13018938

      “A Melbourne-based Chinese businessman who has aligned himself to prominent Liberal Party MPs is facing deportation after being assessed by ASIO as a national security risk, an ABC investigation can reveal.

      ………

      “The businessman, Huifeng “Haha” Liu, is a Liberal Party donor and former soldier in China’s People’s Liberation Army (PLA) who developed links with federal Liberal MP Gladys Liu and Assistant Treasurer Michael Sukkar.

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      Deano

      So true! We’re now at the stage where the biggest problem with this election isn’t the fraud, but the way the MSM and so-called enforcement agencies are complicit in this fraud. When the local police sergeant joins the Hells Angels and proudly wears their patches on his uniform you know things are crook.

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    Maptram

    Presumably the person sitting nearest the person scanning is there to observe that nothing untoward takes place, but he had his head down for the first two scans and looked away for at least one more

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    Robert Austin

    Unbelievable that once a ballot was fed through the machine, that it would not be marked our somehow recorded as read. Even accidental multiple trips through the counting machine would be prevented in any rational voting machine designed to enhance honest voting. So it is the simplest evidence that these voting machines are deliberately designed to facilitate voting fraud.Then there is the connections to the internet and off-shore data processing and storage. Unbelievable!

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      Murray Shaw

      The GOP mail in ballots had a barcode therefore could not be scanned more than once, whereas the Democrat mail in ballots did not have a barcode or any identifying marks so could be copied, scanned multiple times, or otherwise reused.
      That is my understanding.

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        John in Oz

        Why would the machine not throw out a ballot that did not have a barcode?

        Makes it pointless to have barcodes if they are not used.

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          sophocles

          John:

          – you can do what you like with programmable machines if you wrote/installed the program and have access to the OS.

          Whatever you like.

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            sophocles

            Like:
            oh, a vote. What do I do with it?

            Is there a barcode?

            Yes. I do that with it.

            else
            I do this with it.

            endif.

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      David A

      It is unbelievable to me that any SS# can vote in any state more then once, and that all states are not cross referenced. The very same with voter registration. It should not be possible to register in more then one state, or more then one County. Every effort to have have fair elections is resisted by the Left.

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    PeterS

    It is clear beyond any doubt the results of the election can’t be trusted. We can’t know for sure the extent of the fraud. All we know is it’s large enough to call into question the result, and treat the election system on a grand scale as suspect at best. Piling on more and more evidence won’t change the landscape where the Democrats pretending the election results are valid. What needs to be done if Congress passes Biden as the POTUS is for Trump’s team to use all possible means to overturn the decision. I am no expert but I would expect that he could use go to the SCOTUS and try to have the decision overturned. We know that’s not likely to be possible due to the reluctance of the court to take on such a case, but there is some chance and he at least ought to try. Failing that he has only one remaining avenue, the Insurrection Act and recent EO’s to stop this slow train wreck, and conduct fresh elections under the supervision of the military. If the left decide to act in a violent manner then martial law would be required. I simply can’t see any other choices.

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      PeterS

      Oh I forgot. There is one other possible scenario but I don’t rate it as high as some do. Biden could cave in under pressure of having some really damaging information being exposed. He might then obtain some sort of pardon from Trump and Trump remains as POTUS. A few, such as Vox Day has such a view but I will reserve my view and wait to see if it happens that way. It would be nice but reality typically thwarts such nice wishful thoughts.

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        David Maddison

        If Biden resigned it would be an even worse scenario because Harris would become president and she is much more evil than him.

        Plus there’s zero chance an appointed President would be removed by the SCOTUS no matter what the proof of fraud. There have already been cases of congressmen elected due to proven fraud and SCOTUS has acknowledged that but said the disruption removing the member would be too great.

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          PeterS

          All valid arguments but only time will tell how it all pans out. Lots of possibilities but only one real outcome. Jan 6+ will certainly be very interesting. It will decide what scenarios can happen next and filter out many other scenarios that have been discussed at length.

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            OriginalSteve

            I think Trump will prevail, even if he has to get the military to arrest the troublemakers.

            The real risk is what happens next? I suspect the CCP have plans in place to try and disable the US internally through strufe. I think many US citizens will use it as the excuse they needed to thoroughly rout Antifa and leftist thugs locally if they cause trouble.

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              OldOzzie

              Sen. Gohmert Says Republicans Need To Match Antifa, BLM Violence After Court Quashes Electoral Suit

              Senator Louie Gohmert (R-TX) suggested that Republicans should be ‘as violent as Antifa and BLM’ after US District Judge Jeremy Kernodle tossed out his lawsuit which argued that Vice President Mike Pence has the authority to unilaterally overturn the 2020 election results based on widespread claims of fraud in several states, according to Bloomberg.

              “If the bottom line is, the court is saying, ‘We’re not going to touch this. You have no remedy’ — basically, in effect, the ruling would be that you gotta go the streets and be as violent as Antifa and BLM,” Gohmert told Newsmax in a Friday night interview.

              Hilariously, Bloomberg describes Antifa as “a loosely-aligned movement that opposes fascism.”

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                Wet Mountains

                It must come down this. No consequences, no change in behavior!

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                Tilba Tilba

                Louie Gohmert is a member of the House of Representatives, and is not a senator.

                And whatever one’s position on Trump v Biden – it is pretty clear that his failed court case was pretty ludicrous, naming Pence as the defendant when he was sort of in the position of the plaintiff … or something …

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          Yonniestone

          As witnessed before Christmas SCOTUS have no intention of making decisions that will result in civil unrest, those decisions will occur via the constitution and military who I believe are standing ready.

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            David Maddison

            It’s already a dictatorship if the fear of Leftist rioting governs their decisions.

            Civil unrest should not have been a consideration.

            And note how there was no rioting from the Right with the unfavourable SCOTUS decision.

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              truth

              And Congressmen elected fraudulently in the past should not have been left in Congress because SCOTUS found the situation too hard to rectify.

              Throughout this madness, SCOTUS Justices have virtually announced that they are wilfully impotent with regard to their most important role…ensuring that the US remains a democracy under the Constitution.

              If they can’t do that…and can’t be bothered reassuring Americans and the world [ by taking the cases and faithfully deliberating on all the evidence] …that they honor that role and give a damn about the integrity of the American system and honoring the Constitution….. then they’re just a bunch of political activists there to facilitate Democrat malfeasance and keep Democrats in power and out of prison…..no matter what felonious actions Democrats get up to.

              FGS in Australia, numerous members of Parliament were booted out of the Parliament simply because they hadn’t known they inadvertently had dual citizenship via migrant parents and grandparents…no malicious intent!

              If the SCOTUS justices ensure….as they seem hell bent on doing…that Democrats and Biden get away with this massive attack on democracy….particularly knowing about the extreme treachery and felonious acts of the last four years…unresolved still…and the BigTech and Deep State actions to make sure the American people were deprived of vital information as they went to vote….then the rational world will never have any respect for them or the Constitution again…and will never trust the administration their dereliction of duty foists on the world.

              Both Biden and Harris are a laughing stock akin to Saddam’s Ministers….but the world won’t really be laughing.

              SCOTUS has told the Left what they have to do to get away with literally anything…cheat ..defraud…riot and burn…and then some….and threaten more savagery if challenged by gutless authorities….whatever it takes in hurting the American people …and then the SCOTUS will ensure they will be indulged in their lawlessness.

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              Deano

              David Maddison wrote: “And note how there was no rioting from the Right with the unfavourable SCOTUS decision.” – this is one of the most annoying aspects of how the MSM cover big social issues. They show undue respect for those who riot. They even promote their cause. Yet the folks who abide by the law and respect due process are pilloried as if their arguments don’t stack up. The MSM are still the problem.

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            Murrr

            They may well be facilitating civil unrest by refusing to examine the evidence.

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      Hanrahan

      All we know is it’s large enough to call into question the result,

      The magnitude of the fraud is moot, it is a felony to carry out fraud. Why would any sane person commit such a felony if it wasn’t going to affect the result? The moment it can be shown to be organised it MUST be assumed that it can flip the result. I repeat: Why would they do it if it couldn’t flip it?

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        Orson

        What felony? If no one is prosecuted for crime, who’s gonna fear consequences? This is a battle to the Death: freedom versus tyranny. Cage match. Only the last man standing will be victorious.

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    BernardP

    January 6 is coming fast. For President Trump, having a minority of Republican Representatives contest the Electoral College for some States will not be enough, especially as this action has been expected for a long time

    At this late stage, something completely unexpected would have to happen for Trump to prevail. It would have to be so massive and indisputable that his opponents would be left with no argument. It would have to be so overwhelming that Biden would be forced to concede.

    It’s been two months since the election. I am convinced that there was a massive fraud, but I’m not expecting President Trump is going to pull such a big rabbit (a kangaroo, in fact) out of his hat.

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      PeterS

      As I said I’m not rating that scenario of some surprise from Trump to come about in the nick of time, but it’s not impossible. So, let’s wait and see. As always we need to take things one step at a time. First, let’s see what happens on Jan 6. It might drag out a few days. Then, if Biden is selected as POTUS it’s still not all over until Jan 20. A lot can still happen. Only time will tell.

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      OldOzzie

      Remember When The Democrats Challenged The Electoral Vote Count In 3 Elections Over 20 Years?

      We inaugurated three GOP presidents, and Democrats challenged their electoral vote each time.

      Yes, three for two, or three times for the last two GOP presidents sworn in.

      The Democrats are back from the other side of the field.

      They are appalled that GOP House members or a U.S. Senator is questioning the 2020 results.

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        OldOzzie

        Watch: Dems Including Pelosi Object to Electoral Count for Incoming GOP Presidents Including Trump

        We’ve written about the hypocrisy of the Democrats for attacking Republicans who have said they will object to the electoral count on Jan. 6.

        As we observed, Democrats have voiced objections to the count against the three last Republican presidents. Of course, when they did it it was ‘protecting Democracy.’ Now that the Republicans are raising objections, suddenly, doing so is ‘sedition’ and ‘treason’ to the Democrats.

        So I thought we should have a look at the actual videos of the Democrats raising objections, including House Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-Ca), so we can see, in the flesh, how deceitful they are.

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      GD

      January 6 is coming fast

      Why has Trump taken so long to show his hand?

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        Richard Jenkins

        Trump has always said be patient. He is way ahead of most people and knew Jan 6 was when the evidence will be demonstrated. Each state has to present there nomination. If an objector has a seconder there is a 2 hour debate on the process. The supposed lack of evidence must crumble. How wil the MSM hide that? I note that today they are referencing Trump’s comments in Georgia rather inaccurately but making the door slightly ajar after having Biden locked in. Fundamentally they know that after 2 hours debate the first dominio will probably fall. As the others follow Trump’s ability will prove the MSM wrong again. No Russia, no impeachment, the MSM are incompetent and or blatant liars.

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        Ross

        Why has Trump taken so long to show his hand?

        He’s bluffing . No cards to play. He’s got nothing.

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          OriginalSteve

          Keep dreaming…..

          Special forces extract teams are being readied apparently…arrests imminent.

          And added bonus for the Left….patriots…lots and lots of patriots….

          Nothing….yep….nope.

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            sophocles

            … the backlog in Gitmo has been reduced, if that’s the case,

            and Raffensperger has received his warning.

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          TedM

          see no facts, speak no facts , hear no facts.

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    David Maddison

    Sadly no amount of proof is going to change anything. Only a miracle can change things now. It’s taken me a long time to get to this point but now I have little hope. The corruption is too deep. Only a Second American Revolution lead by General Trump can fix this.

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      PeterS

      I understand your frustration only too well. If Trump truly is a man of his word and stands for the Constitution of the United States then as the final option he ought to use the Insurrection Act and his EO’s to run new elections. Of course that would be like adding fuel to the fire with the left itching for a real fight but let’s face it, what’s more important? The Constitution where the power at the end of the day is in the people, or some rabid left leaning neo-communists who want to destroy the West by electing a stooge by way of a massively fraudulent election? Trump needs to have a good hard look at himself in the mirror before making the choice which way to go.

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      OriginalSteve

      I think you are right.
      The courts have failed, which is the final arbiter of law, so you really only have thr military option mow, but Abe Lincoln had whole state legislatures arrested.

      The fact that patriot spies and law enforcement people are surfacing to help out shows that people now realize how dangerous the Left is….

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      Kalm Keith

      Earlier, Fuel Filter put up this video link.
      It’s a bit maudlin but conveyed to me a possible summation of what the year 2020 meant for the future.

      https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=q3Y2bIXIJhk

      A year ago you would have said that the videos represented the work of a fruit loop.

      Right now it is a very plausible summary of the new world order that is looming over us.

      While I have never denied that there’s such a thing as CV19, I do find the actions taken by governments around the globe as being overbearing; destructive rather than constructive, not based on medical common sense and very oppressive, even unlawful, when considering the laws and religious guidelines that have seen us through the last few centuries.

      The video, along with events in Victoria, the EEU, Britain and the US in 2020 tragically states the case that Something Is Terribly Wrong.

      The United Bloody Nations, the EEU, World Economic Forum and their lower level cousins are essentially a private club for the Elites and does nothing for the striving citizens who are far too trusting.

      Just listening to the official Australian Government radio, the ABCCC, is a journey into our WOKE future Enslavement.

      People, we do need to be worried.

      Lastly, thanks to Jo for linking the dominoes of CAGW, CV19 and now The Great U.S. CONSTITUTION CRISIS.

      They are all in this together to crush free citizens.

      Be alert: the world needs more Lerts.

      KK

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        PeterS

        I did make a comment some months ago to the effect that we might already have a NWO in place. It’s just that they have been so clever about it that it’s hidden from view. If that’s the case, and of course there is no way of knowing for now, we will eventually find out when draconian powers are so strong no one can keep ignoring them. Trump has no chance in such an environment even if he still ends up staying as POTUS. The evil ones are a very patient lot.

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          John R Smith

          Establishing international de facto martial law is about as NWO as it can get.
          The weird thing is, they didn’t have to put a tank on a street.
          We just all complied.
          The genie is getting bigger.
          The bottle is getting smaller.
          And we’ve lost the cap.

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            OriginalSteve

            Someone once suggested a NWO plan to formulate a war between the two most populous religions on earth, with the idea that they would then slaughter each other to achive significant population reduction.

            Its possible the US may go to war against China as its possible that China has sonething up its sleeve like orbital kinetic weapons and/or EMP. In the maddness, its also possible to orchestrate a deliberate destruction of a significant holy building/site to ensure a “burning of the reichstag” moment.

            Dont underestimate the NWO being willing to orchestrate massive blooshed to achieve its sick agenda. Youve seen a willingness to create medically-driven slavery globally as an example of what they can do.

            This is a spiritual battle – its good vs evil. The NWO are evil.

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              OriginalSteve

              Lots of people need to see these videos of empty hospitals…hype vs reality.

              In the figures i could get from the Victoristani medi-mafia , no matter how many people had covid, the deaths were stubbornly in the 70+ age bracket and never ventured above 2% of number of infected.

              Then – if you add in the CDC bombshell of ” Aw yeah…by the wsy, 94% of “covid deaths” are from pre existing medical conditions”.

              So this means 0.06 × 2% = bugger all true covid deaths.

              Lets be honest – covid isnt about medicibe – purely and simply its a way of effectively using wartime eqivelent powers to remove peoples rights and freedoms by frightening people into a state where they cant think. And while they are paraysed with fear they do you over.

              Covid is a massive mental abuse of a whole population that is almost in the category of war crimes…..

              Lets face it, this appears to be a global war against humanity by the global Elite, who are nothing more than useful idiots for the Devil….

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        Ross

        I vote Kalm Keith’s post as the most miserable of the year.
        Cheer up son. Life WILL go on.

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          Ted O’Brien.

          Google declared the video unfit for minors, demanding registration.

          I didn’t. Just mark it as one more nail in Google’s coffin.

          BTW. Biden can shut down mines in Australia. Think about what you’ll be doing then.

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        Boris

        Thanks for your post, KK. My hat off to you!

        Frankly, KK, I’m surprised how few thinking people have seen this on the horizon a long time ago. Most “educated” people have outsourced their brains to TED talks and sections of the media and along with most media and academia, have engaged in putting down anyone who has the presence of mind to question most of the prevailing narratives with that oft repeated ridicule of “conspiracy theorist”. But once we see that the hallmark of this machine’s MO is deception and subterfuge we begin to see that it’s being deployed out in the open.

        If people had bothered to read the papers put out by these groups with the presence of mind to ask “what do they mean by these statements?” one would have recognised the malevolence and this NWO being erected before their eyes with each passing year.

        We need to stop being afraid of social ostracism and help people to wake up and resist. Resist it all.

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          Kalm Keith

          Thanks Boris,
          listening to the radio in the car this morning I heard two dissertations on the electricity situation with cheap renewables now replacing old fossil fool power generation.

          Having arguably the best qualifications available for the CO2 rort analysis I am shocked that governments world wide are still able to push this “lye” after so long.

          The fact that the truth has not been made public by governments regarding both CAGW and the remedy, Renewables, is a tribute to the repression of academics and engineers who know the truth but can’t speak out of fear.

          Our leaders are no longer leaders but extractors looking to milk every opportunity for personal gain above the obligations they took on to act in our best interests.

          If you get information from the public media in 2021 it will be nothing but misdirection interspersed with advertising.

          We need a revolution.

          KK

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    dinn, rob

    James Dobson described Biden’s declared support of transgender surgery for children as “lunacy.”…America is about to lose “government of the people, by the people and for the people.”
    https://www.wnd.com/2021/01/no-stopping-james-dobson-sounds-alarm-bell-america/

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    OldOzzie

    Jim Jordan Assails Dems for Using ‘Chaos’ Around Mail-In Votes During Election

    Rep. Jim Jordan, R-Ohio, charged Sunday that Democrats wanted to win the Nov. 3 vote “after the election,” and used the “chaos” and “confusion” around massive mail-in balloting to do so.

    In an interview on Fox News’ “Sunday Morning Futures,” Jordan, who is among House Republicans who will challenge the Electoral vote when it convenes Wednesday to certify the win by Joe Biden, said GOP lawmakers knew last summer about Democrats’ aims.

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      OriginalSteve

      I think a lot of RINOs will get arrested for the same reason as any on the Left.

      Same charges.

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        David A

        It is unbelievable to me that any SS# can vote in any state more then once, and that all states are not cross referenced. The very same with voter registration. It should not be possible to register in more then one state, or more then one County. Every effort to have have fair elections is resisted by the Left.

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        David A

        Jim Jordan is not a RINO.

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    OldOzzie

    Top US Official Says ‘Growing Body Of Evidence’ Shows COVID-19 Leaked From Chinese Lab

    The most ‘credible’ theory about the origin of COVID-19 is that it escaped from a Chinese laboratory, according to US National Security Adviser Matthew Pottinger, who made the comment during a Zoom meeting with UK officials.

    “There is a growing body of evidence that the lab is likely the most credible source of the virus,” said Pottinger, referring to the Wuhan Institute of Virology,

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    dinn, rob

    “I’m the proud mom of two girls, 8 and 10,” Haeck said at the televised event in Philadelphia, while her husband and children watched from their living room. “My youngest daughter is transgender.”
    She spoke of how the Trump administration has repeatedly rolled back the rights of the transgender community, and asked the presidential candidate what he would do to protect the lives of transgender people like her daughter.
    “The idea that an 8-year-old child or a 10-year-old child decides … ‘I want to be transgender … it’d make my life a lot easier,’ ” Biden said in his answer. “There should be zero discrimination.” https://www.washingtonpost.com/dc-md-va/2020/10/29/mother-told-biden-about-her-transgender-8-year-old-child-then-came-attacks/

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    Binny Pegler

    The Biden administration will wade through the mire of this sort of thing on repeat, for the next 2 years while the economy staggers under the weight of Covid debt.
    After the midterm he will limp to 2024 a lame duck.

    There is 4 years to make sure this doesn’t happen again (given the speed of the political process that will be only just enough time – little to nothing will happen while the Dems control the house)

    The only other option is boots in the streets (140 million of them) History shows this is the only way to over turn a corrupt election.
    The system has been carefully designed so one man can do very little by himself (for good reason)
    It’s down to ‘the people’ waiting for Trump to pull a rabbit out of the hat is the road to failure.

    The courts WILL NOT be dragged into deciding who governs.

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      GD

      After the midterm he will limp to 2024 a lame duck

      Trouble is, he won’t limp to 2024 a lame duck. Kamala Harris will take over long before that and then all restraints will be off.

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    Roger Knights

    (I just posted this at the end of the prior thread.
    Trump would have a better chance of winning if he pledged to resign right after his inauguration. That would mean that giving the presidency to a Republican would not entail giving it to Trump, which would be much more palatable to those currently trying to shut down appointing a 10-day Electoral Commissionto investigate the allegations.

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      Chrism

      huh? he has been shown to be if not unique, at least one of the few who is able to weather relentless attacks on himself and family
      if you want a resolution from the current slide towards a one party state there is no-one else with the requisite skill set, determination and track record
      the flip side of a Manichaen strategy is that unless you vanquish him, he is going to rebound & this time it will be a ‘no prisoners’ option
      the CCP may be wanting to sink one of their fishing ships in Australian waters with one of their drone subs to start a proxy fight …
      they may also attack the US more overtly on other pretexts such as Taiwan

      https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-12-31/suspected-chinese-submarine-drone-found-by-indonesian-fishermen/13022488

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        Hanrahan

        The antenna length gives away the control frequency which I, going back a life time in my trade, calculate to be 80.5 MHz. They can now monitor that freq. which would not penetrate far into the water [being in the VHF band, they use the ultra low band to communicate with submarines] so this means it travels on the surface. I’ll have to look up “variable-buoyancy propulsion” but that sounds akin to the butterfly swimming stroke.

        Spy V Spy.

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        OriginalSteve

        Years ago i heard stories of russian spy trawlers off the australian coast. Rather than risk a diplomstic incident by sinking it, the RAAF apparently sent out an F111 at 50m above the water and full power run over the ship…

        Apparently the shockwave at that speed does horrible things to peoples eardrums.

        Problem solved though…it went away….

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    David Maddison

    In this video President Reject Biden calls Harris “President Elect”.

    Perhaps he’s hinting that he knows she will replace him or that she is his puppet master.

    He is also having difficulty articulating a lot of words. His cognitive functions are in rapid decline.

    https://youtu.be/ngjX4g79lK8

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      Hanrahan

      In that case there is conflict between Harris and Dr Jill. Why would Jill be doing this to herself and Joe if SHE doesn’t intend to be puppet master?

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      Bernard

      Biden does actually think about what he is going to say or do.
      No racist dog whistles, proud boy endorsements, dumping allies, praising dictators,dangerous Covid cures, brain farts about buying Greenland or war of independence airfields— etc etc.

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        Hanrahan

        What’s a “dog whistle”? It’s a whistle dogs can hear but too high pitched for us.

        So what’s a “racist dog whistle”? It’s a whistle [statement] that only racists can hear. So you heard them all Bernard, I didn’t.

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        Yonniestone

        So you’ve never used a “dog whistle” Bernard?

        You must be a real Saint…………….

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        Ando

        Biden does actually think about what he is going to say or do…
        Like sniffing and inappropriately touching young children?
        Good to know.

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        TedM

        to which dangerous covid cure would you be referring?

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      Serp

      He’d be looking forward to his daily wallow in the counting house so it is with refreshing frankness Joe has very thoughtfully spared us the rigmarole in the explanation as to how Harris as Big Tech’s candidate is necessarily president-elect.

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    Matty

    The Dems seem quiet overall and probably because they know this is a stinker. So far the media have fought their battles entirely but this week they have to actually show up. Will be interesting.

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    David Maddison

    What’s changed? Republican Abraham Lincoln said this of the Democrats in 1863.

    https://teachingamericanhistory.org/library/document/letter-to-erastus-corning-and-others/

    Letter to Erastus Corning and Others
    Abraham Lincoln | June 12, 1863

    …they hoped to keep on foot amongst us a most efficient corps of spies, informers, suppliers, and aiders and abettors of their cause in a thousand ways…

    …..The insurgents had been preparing for it more than thirty years, while the government had taken no steps to resist them. The former had carefully considered all the means which could be turned to their account. It undoubtedly was a well-pondered reliance with them that in their own unrestricted effort to destroy Union, Constitution and law, all together, the government would, in great degree, be restrained by the same Constitution and law from arresting their progress.

    There are many more such gems in this letter.

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    RossP

    This recent video from Bill Still is interesting. He talks of a military or military style presentation on Jan 6 for the Congress.

    Is it possible that will include, if not be mainly about the information off the Frankfurt servers. The military are said to have been in possession of them and have been analysing them independently. If so, will this be the real Kraken?

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X8j221vMij8

    If it is the case, history might tell us that while everything that has gone on since election day has been very important, for all sorts of reasons, it was effectively a warm up to the main event which President Trump has known about for a long time (it would certainly explain why he has been so relatively calm in the last couple of months)

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      David Maddison

      It’s a huge gamble to rely on this at the last minute.

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      David Maddison

      That Bill Still video is very good.

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      RickWill

      My understanding of the process is that no external authority can be called on to give evidence at the joint session. It is only elected officials who are permitted to present a case. That isone reason why Hawley is an important cog.

      I expect that if an external authority was called in then all the Democrats and some of the Republicans would simply walk out – that would be interesting.

      Part of Gohmert’s action against Pence was to establish Pence’s authority to set the rules. The suit was deemed to have no standing so did not proceed to hearing.

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      Ross

      Why the need to make these wild predictions?
      You’re still waiting for a Kraken? Just crazy stufff.

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      Tilba Tilba

      This recent video from Bill Still is interesting. He talks of a military or military style presentation on Jan 6 for the Congress.

      When the House and Senate split to consider any formal objections, each chamber has a maximum of two hours and each speaker has a maximum of five minutes. And in addition, no witnesses or other external presentations are permitted.

      The Joint Session is not permitted to have and debate at all. The whole process is designed to be as formal and expeditious as possible, with no filibuster and minimum delay/ It isn’t a situation where Team Trump (or anyone else) can make a lengthy or well-reasoned pitch to Congress.

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    John in Oz

    Why have none of the people obviously defrauding the system been charged with a crime?

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      Hypersonic

      Most people need to see the swamp with thier own eyes before they believe it, once these people accept the crimes then the charges can be laid.

      On the other hand the ABC JAN 04 2021 stated claims of election fraud in Georgia are unfounded. Some people cannot see the crime no matter how clear it is, these people will be left behind as the majority take back thier countries/lives/free speech etc, etc, etc.

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      Len

      Wait for it

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      Tilba Tilba

      Why have none of the people obviously defrauding the system been charged with a crime?

      It’s a fair question. Firstly of course, the cops haven’t really located the body, so the fact there has even been a murder yet remains uncertain, let alone the likely identity of the murderer(s).

      Secondly – I think it would take quite some months of solid research (DOJ? FBI? State equivalents?) to do the forensic work necessary to prove to a court that a crime was committed beyond all reasonable doubt.

      And thirdly – it would be intensely political, and wouldn’t happen before 6 January, or Inauguration, if at all. It would require a state attorney-general to direct the state police department or chief prosecutor to indict someone … and who would be the someone?

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    Antoine D'Arche

    Yippee Ki-Yay…..

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    William Astley

    Super good news, there is now evidence a few US senators have been informed of the plan and now have roles in the plan.

    Listen to this video, but please, fast forward through the pathetic… name calling, eye rolling, shaking anger, … of the ABC ‘Reporter’. The ABC ‘Reporter’ states it is fact that everyone knows, that there is zero evidence of 2020 US election fixing evidence. Zero.

    The ABC ‘Reporter’ then ‘tells’ (The ABC ‘Reporter’ is shouting, as he is out of control shaking mad and has angry little eyes as he ‘waits’ to interrupt the Senator again) the US Senator, that the US Senator should investigate the moon landing or perhaps 911, rather than waste money on investigating the 2020 US election.

    The Good News is what Senator chose to speak about first.

    Sen. Johnson’s first comment in the interview about the 2020 US election fixing has not about that subject but rather … has this emphatic statement.

    Senator Johnson does not understand why, the US ‘system’ did not look for repurposed drugs to fight/cure covid. …

    Johnson does not understand why the US ‘system’ does not listen to doctors who have evidence that specific repurposed drugs could be the cure for covid.

    Johnson apologizes that he did not and could not investigate that issue.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?app=desktop&v=uRPqAq-Ptfk

    I have heard the US Milt Intelligence have funds and a plan that will start releasing cures for covid….

    The Plan required, informing the US Milt command structure and including overwhelming evidence of Dem corruption before the US Intelligence campaign was initiated.

    US Milt senior command who are trustworthy , have been informed that the US Milt’s independent investigation in to a CIA plot to interfere into the US election; has found unequivocal felony evidence that all of the congressional Dems and Biden committed 2020 US election fraud.

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    PeterS

    Pelosi has been re-elected as speaker of the house 🙁

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    OldOzzie

    Trump Reminded Us What It’s Like to Have an American President

    It had been so long since we had an American president, many people had forgotten what it was and should be like. And after decades of anti-American, cultural Marxist indoctrination in American schools and popular culture, others thought it was a terrible thing. Neo-Dem Never-Trumper William Kristol tweeted: “I’ll be unembarrassedly old-fashioned here: It is profoundly depressing and vulgar to hear an American president proclaim ‘America First.’”

    A foundation of the Democrats’ 2020 platform was the party’s vow to return America to its place in the world, i.e., to stop putting America First, and to go back to being the world’s beat cops and ATM. Now, however, after four years of Trump, some Americans see how the American president should put America first, and they’re not going to forget when Dotty Old Joe hits the White House basement, or when Kamala Harris moves her socialist, internationalist clown show into the Oval Office.

    Yes, Trump was a braggart and a blusterer. Yes, he insulted people. Yes, he was often inarticulate. Yes, he showed none of the polish to which we have become accustomed from those who claim to be “experts” in how our government, and our daily lives, should be run. He was derided as an amateur, a non-expert, and he was: for some, that was one of the most important bases of his appeal. For Trump, unlike every other president going back to Reagan, and unlike most others before that going back to before Woodrow Wilson, dedicated his every act as president to putting Americans first and bettering their lives, and he wasn’t afraid to go against the conventional wisdom and decades of precedent to do so.

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    Len

    The Intelligence Process:
    1. Collection.
    2. Collation.
    3. Interpretation
    4. Dissemination.
    Looks like the Olds and Bolds are now disseminating the information on the fraud.

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    Dennis

    Please consider: How would Australians feel if an election here was tampered with via voting irregularities and the authorities attempted a cover up.

    Patriots would volunteer to get to the truth, after all democracy is precious, millions have died fighting for democracy and freedom around the world, and others have been on the receiving end of totalitarian governments who have escaped to settle in democracies.

    The patriots are of course those migrants who experienced the horrors of control, locally born citizens who have been warned by older family members who escaped, and unfortunately the rest have no idea what it is like to not have freedom and democracy where Antifa/BLM and other activist groups are free to protest and where we can all have our say if we choose to speak out on most subjects.

    The free world is at crisis point in 2021 and we all need patriots to stand up.

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      Yonniestone

      Unfortunately there aren’t many patriots left in this country or enough enact change, look at how many Victorians still support Andrews after being locked down/up for reasons that are completely illegal under state and federal law, the sheeple mentality is breath taking to a point of being suicidal.

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        Peter C

        True Yonnie,

        Thanks to Jo’s blog we keep the flame alive until the tempos of time change the tide.

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      John R Smith

      We’ll stand for freedom if we can.
      Didn’t Australians surrender their ability fight back a few years ago?
      Thanks for the emotional support though.

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        Dennis

        Australians have The Australian Defence Forces that are well trained and well equipped, Police Forces including specialist tactical response groups and major crime squads that are very well trained and equipped and in NSW at least Police have a Federal Government arrangement that allows them to call in the Commando Unit from Holsworthy Army Base if needed at any time. The previous Police Commissioner announced just before he retired that general duties officers are permitted to shoot to kill if deemed to be necessary and were being issued with access to military rifles and being trained to use them.

        I prefer to leave protection of citizens and nation to the professionals.

        And noting that all criminal record free Australians are able to apply for a gun licence and to register guns but not military automatic and semi-automatic weapons, exceptions being older Vietnam War period SLR rifles when a good reason for owning one is submitted, such as remote area feral pest control.

        I am not aware of armed civilians surviving from confrontations with well trained soldiers overseas, Iraq, Afghanistan for example.

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          Dennis

          By the way, patriots standing up for freedom and democracy include military and police personnel, but possibly more important members of parliaments who have access to influence governments are very important.

          Examples, thankfully, are many in Australia, former General now Senator Jim Molan (real Liberal conservative) and Captain now MP Andrew Hastie now assisting the Minister for Defence in Canberra.

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          John R Smith

          You may be more in line with Biden than you realize.

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    Everyone on both sides of this argument admits that voter fraud is possible and has in fact been going on for years. It is accepted as fact. This being the case, the experts should have a pretty good handle on it by now. Questions such as
    1/ What percentage of votes are fraudulent?
    2/ Does it occur equally across all 3,148 counties?
    3/ Is the incidence increasing, decreasing or constant?
    4/ What are the top three methods of fraud?
    These are basic questions and if the authorities (whoever they are) don’t have all four answers then how can one accept the statement that “there is not enough evidence to suggest that fraud was sufficient to change the result” as being anything other than ludicrous.

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    Dennis

    US House under Pelosi finishes prayer to God ‘known by many names’ with Amen and AWoman.
    Monday, 04 January 2021

    Seriously.

    Amen is Hebrew for ‘so be it’.

    a·men
    /äˈmen,āˈmen/
    exclamation
    exclamation: amen
    uttered at the end of a prayer or hymn, meaning ‘so be it.’.
    used to express agreement or assent.
    “amen to that!”

    It has nothing to do with gender.

    But not in Pelosi’s House.

    From Michael Smith News

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    David Maddison

    From Wikipedia.

    Amen (Hebrew: אָמֵן, ‘ʾāmēn’; Greek: ἀμήν, ‘amín’; Arabic: آمین, ‘āmīna’; Aramaic/Syriac: ܐܵܡܝܼܢ, ‘ʾāmīn’) is an Abrahamic declaration of affirmation first found in the Hebrew Bible, and subsequently in the New Testament. It is used in Jewish, Christian and Islamic worship, as a concluding word, or as a response to a prayer. Common English translations of the word amen include “verily”, “truly”, and “so be it”. It is also used colloquially, to express strong agreement.

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    Peter Fitzroy

    So what happens next – one side or the other will not accept the result, one because of unfounded and unproven claims, and the other because the rules of law were violated.

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      Binny Pegler

      Rule of Law Trumps

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      OriginalSteve

      What happens is a sitting President is rightly trying to get to the bottom of the stolen election allegations.

      In fact, any President should and must refuse to leave office if the integrity of the election is in doubt. To do otherwise is accepting complete failure of the country, and become a banana republic.

      The globalists want Trump gone….he is getting in the way of thier plans, but Trump has dig in. He has a special forces praetorian guard and i think intends to burn the corruption to the ground then jail people, including many Republicans and Democrats. This is what you do to establish rule of law and confidence in the US.

      The 6th of Jan could be significant.

      I think Gitmo will fill up. You deal with traitors using the military when the courts are so corrupt they no longer function properly.

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        Kalm Keith

        That’s interesting.

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        Bernard

        Steve, you may have doubts but have failed to provide evidence. Over the past weeks you’ve been moving the goal posts so much to distract from all the failures , what would actually convince you that there was no fraud, a third recount in Georgia?
        Or will you defend the lack of evidence with another conspiracy theory?.

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          Peter C

          Good effort Bernard,

          But I think you misunderstand Steve. He is expressing his personal opinion. Therefore his statement stands on its own.

          He doesn’t need to provide a reference. Nor does he need to come up with a conspiracy theory.

          You may disagree with his premise, which is clearly expressed in his first sentence. The rest follows rhetorically. Refute that if you can.

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          OriginalSteve

          In about 2 days youll have all the evidence you can eat…

          Enjoy.

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        Tilba Tilba

        The globalists want Trump gone….he is getting in the way of their plans, but Trump has dig in.

        Not sure who all these globalists are, and nor am I clear on how they are relevant to the political tussle between Trump and Biden (both of whom I don’t like very much, BTW).

        He has a special forces praetorian guard and I think intends to burn the corruption to the ground then jail people, including many Republicans and Democrats. This is what you do to establish rule of law and confidence in the US.

        I disagree … this is what you do if you are trying to be a dictator and ignore the voters. I think reasonable people understand that if there were significant and provable election fraud or state malpractice, at least one state and at least one important court might have said so over the past two months.

        As it stands, there are just a whole lot of unsubstantiated claims. I fail to understand why there are so many daily “bombshell” releases of yet another video, photo, table, data analysis, affidavit, etc, telling us there was massive fraud. But then they go absolutely nowhere – 24 hours later they simply expire. Will Jeffrey Epstein turn up on Wednesday and nail John Roberts?

        It is big courts and state legislatures that had to be convinced by Team Trump – and convinced well before now … not keyboard warriors on various forums.

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          OriginalSteve

          Youre deliberately ignoring the obvious, which is systemic multilayered corruption at all levels of govt and the courts.

          The praetorian guard is defence against rats in the ranks…smart move.

          Stay tuned. BYO popcorn…

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    Wokebuster

    So now they come forward????? Isn’t it a bit late?

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    Hypersonic

    For those of you wondering just how stupid the democrats must have been to think they could get away with so much fraud, they just ended the parliament sitting prayer with Amen and Awomen. Yes that’s right they don’t know Amen is a Latin word meaning So be it.

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      David Maddison

      Agreed but it is not Latin, it is Hebrew. “So be it” in Latin is “ita sit”.

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      Annie

      Unbelievable, isn’t it?
      Amen originated with the Hebrews afaik.

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      OriginalSteve

      More left wing dissing of christianity by mocking it.

      The look on Pelosi’s face one second after she dies and comes face to face with Jesus….and then the book of judgement is opened.

      No where to hide.

      “For we must all appear before the judgment seat of Christ, that each one may receive the things done in the body, according to what he has done, whether good or bad.”
      Corinthians 5:10

      She will know the true meaning of fear in that moment. How horrible….when it could have been different.

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    Rob JM

    HUGE if true. Greta flips on her 18th birthday

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    David Maddison

    Facebook Removes 1.7 MILLION Member Group “Joe Biden Is Not My President” Without Warning — But Anti-Trump “Not My President” Page Still Up After 4 Years
    By Jim Hoft
    Published January 3, 2021 at 12:16pm
    709 Comments

    The far-left radicals that run Facebook just deleted the 1.7 million member group ‘Joe Biden IS NOT MY PRESIDENT!‘.

    The group’s admins say they were given no warning and no explanation as to why the group, which was created on December 15th, 2020 was deleted.

    See link for rest.

    https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2021/01/facebook-removes-1-7-million-member-group-joe-biden-not-president-without-warning-anti-trump-not-president-page-still-4-years/

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      Chrism

      the lamb may lie down with the lion
      but not get much sleep

      the best argument I read was :

      A : ‘so you don’t own FB, they can allow whatever they want, if they don’t like your comments they can delete them”

      B : “so it’s ok if I have a phone call supporting my gay friend, and if the phone company doesn’t approve of homosexuality it’s ok for them to delete my phone account”?

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    David Maddison

    Thank you Jo for offering us a free speech platform.

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    PeterPetrum

    Attorney General William Barr said Tuesday the Justice Department has not uncovered evidence of widespread voter fraud that would change the outcome of the 2020 presidential election..

    Read that carefully, talk about hedging one’s bets.

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      PP – That’s exactly what I was talking about at #25 above. No-one can make a definitive statement about voter fraud.

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        Chrism

        No, I think that you misunderstand

        Barr is implying that in fact there is evidence for widespread voter fraud that did change the election and

        DOJ has deliberately and purposefully and traitorously not found it & that is an act of sedition

        read it again

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          Peter C

          That is an interesting interpretation Chrism.

          It may be the correct interpretation, but is that what Bill Barr intended to say?
          You are probably correct. He did not say;“I, the AG, did not uncover evidence of widespread voter fraud that would change the outcome of the 2020 presidential election.” He Said; ” the Justice Department has not uncovered evidence of widespread voter fraud that would change the outcome of the 2020 presidential election.”

          Going one step further; Why did Bill Barr not act to correct the injustice? Was it because he was not able to or because he did not want to?

          Either way he had to be sacked.

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            Chrism

            He has left probably for several reasons ; he has fought the good fight and perhaps wanted out of this messy conflict : some have suggested that he would be unable to call himself to give evidence against DOJ & as a result now can be called if and when a Special prosecutor is appointed to empanel a grand jury and start naming names

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          PeterPetrum

          That’s how I interpreted it, Chrism. Barr did not look for it, did not investigate it and just claimed “nothing to see here”.

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    David Maddison

    You won’t find this story on censored Leftist search engine Google, you’ll have to use DuckDuckGo.

    https://freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3921215/posts?page=41

    President Trump has sued Georgia Secretary Of State Brad Raffensperger after he leaked a phone call with President Trump to the press.

    Trump Sues Georgia Secretary Of State Raffensperger Over Leaked Phone Call https://t.co/NdtPIpnve7

    — zerohedge (@zerohedge) January 4, 2021

    President Trump has filed two lawsuits against Georgia Secretary of State Brad Raffensperger over a leaked phone call obtained and published by the Washington Post on Sunday, in which Trump badgered the Georgia official over election fraud.

    President @realDonaldTrump has filed two lawsuits – federal and state – against @GaSecofState. The telephone conference call @GaSecofState secretly recorded was a “confidential settlement discussion” of that litigation, which is still pending.

    — David Shafer (@DavidShafer) January 3, 2021

    The audio published by @TheWashingtonPost is heavily edited and omits the stipulation that all discussions were for the purpose of settling litigation and confidential under federal and state law.

    — David Shafer (@DavidShafer) January 3, 2021

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    PeterS

    Not many realize that Trump has enemies on both sides who want him gone. If he fails to remain as POTUS then he ought to form a new party to get back at them rather than trying to fix the Republican party, which IMHO is too far gone. The two major parties are full of despots anyway, much like our two main parties.

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    Tilba Tilba

    The US Congress has re-confirmed the rules for the Joint Session that have been used for decades. They were passed easily, and earlier threats that some Republicans would try to block their easy passage came to nothing. It would seem to indicate that January 6 might be relatively straightforward.

    The reality is, that the Constitution gives virtually all the power to the states to select their electors, and while it might frustrate federal politicians who feel superior to those out in the boondocks, or that they believe the election was fraudulent, in the matter of presidential election states do matter.

    If a state certifies its electors and rejects any suggestion of fraud, then there is not a whole lot that can be done about it federally – as Team Trump has been discovering.

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      Chrism

      Leigh Dundas has stated unequivocally that the VP has Plenary power to open/select/not select votes where ther are duelling electors : he has three options : Biden wins with the Gubernatorial votes : the contested votes are not used and a contingent election is called in which Trump is likely to win as it votes on House state lines : or finally accept the legislature republican votes as indicating the will of the legally and constitutionally valid votes electing Trump

      I have read where you have offered a different interpretation of the VP role

      Jackson selected contested votes (for himself) as VP in 1800 IIRC

      A fourth option would be to recuse himself and ask a very old Senator to deputise (Grassley) who would then have options 1 to 3 (and 4??)

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        Tilba Tilba

        Leigh Dundas has stated unequivocally that the VP has Plenary power to open/select/not select votes where there are duelling electors : he has three options : Biden wins with the Gubernatorial votes : the contested votes are not used and a contingent election is called in which Trump is likely to win as it votes on House state lines : or finally accept the legislature republican votes as indicating the will of the legally and constitutionally valid votes electing Trump.

        Yes – I have watched the Leigh Dundas tape, and I believe it is wrong in every conceivable and material way, and it is little more than a cross between wishful thinking and pure spin.

        It’s as if she’s never heard of the Electoral Count Act 1887 that has been successfully used for decades (including by the Supreme Court in 2000, handing victory to Bush over Gore).

        There are NO dueling electoral slates – there are the proper, formal, legally convened, and state certified electoral slates for Joe Biden, all doubly secured by safe-harbor protection, and there are some pointless scraps of paper with a bunch of unendorsed names on them.

        There is no comparison, no competition, and no duel.

        I think you will find that VP Mike Pence ceremonially opens the formal envelopes, and asks if there are any objections in writing, and things will proceed from there. It is all a formal and well-established process, and I think Ms Dundas is just making mischief!

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          Kalm Keith

          That’s why, what we hope is going to happen, will be so unusual;
          it will be the acknowledgement of the true purpose of the constitution: an honest vote leading to honesty in government.

          Presently, all around the world, we have government for the “elected” by the “elected”.

          What about The People.

          KK

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            Tilba Tilba

            It will be the acknowledgement of the true purpose of the constitution: an honest vote leading to honesty in government.

            The problem (probably insurmountable) with that is that the system is codified to ensure the votes by the states are “sacred”, and a rogue bunch in Congress can’t trample on the popular vote of the people. It needs to be that way.

            And without ONE SINGLE state indicating any desire to de-certify their electoral slates, and without ONE SINGLE court ruling for Trump on fraud in any swing state … what can Congress do? What they can’t do is take it upon themselves to overturn state electoral votes on suspicion.

            The Republican proposal to have a “Ten-Day Inquiry” sounds reasonable on the surface, but it would just be a hyper-partisan political stoush, and is nowhere long enough, but mostly, the Democrats don’t have to agree to it because they have the numbers to ensure Biden’s confirmation.

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              Kalm Keith

              Technically, I can see your point about states rights and independence; morally, in the present exposed corrupted system it cannot be the absolute guiding principle.

              The current voting system is dysfunctional and doesn’t give every American citizen an equal vote and in many cases flips their vote.

              Until a properly constituted election is run with paper ballots properly verified by observers at all times there can be no declaration of a “result”.

              At the moment the American nation is so deep in the swamp that all that that is visible above the surface are the nostrils of Them The People.

              If this isn’t fixed, perhaps by a rerun, the U.S. is in for a poor future where nobody wins.

              KK

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                Tilba Tilba

                I agree with much of that.

                And I think they have to put all the muscle back into the Federal Electoral Commission (they have one, but it was gutted) … and to enforce consistency and correctness in all states for all federal elections.

                Not trampling on states rights, but saying that for federal office (especially president and vice president) the national interest over-rides state independence. Or something.

                I agree with paper ballots, and I also agree with mail-in voting, early voting, and drop-boxes … there is nothing intrinsically insecure about these methods, they just need to be managed.

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    Zigmaster

    The assumption that Trump will get the support of the Republicans if they get the chance to vote is naive. Tom Cotton a Republican says it would set a dangerous precedent to challenge the electoral college certification. Either he’s totally naive or corrupt. He stupidly says that they must set up a commission to investigate the election to make sure people have faith in the system.
    What more stupid precedent to create than allowing a person / party that clearly cheats win. They all know that once Jan 20 happens even with proofs, arrests and sentencing it will all be too late. The cheats will have prospered.
    In America the new emperor has no clothes, everyone knows it and can see it but no one says anything . But all I know when the Emperor they are talking about is Joe Biden it is a truely ugly sight to behold.

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      OriginalSteve

      Yep.

      Unless this communist insurgency is crushed now, we enter a global new dark ages…..

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        PeterS

        You know very well we will be entering a global new dark age soon no matter what happens this month. That’s why I’m not so fussed as most here as to who becomes POTUS. It’s just a formality on the way to a funeral.

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      Chrism

      The kiddy sniffer Biden has no substantial functioning cortex … hey man, c’mon

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      Tilba Tilba

      Tom Cotton a Republican says it would set a dangerous precedent to challenge the electoral college certification. Either he’s totally naïve or corrupt.

      I don’t think he is either of those – I think he is right in that it would be a dangerous precedent. What if it were the other way around: Trump had won by a small (and disputed) amount, but the Democrats had control of both the House and the Senate, and moved to overturn enough “fraud” states in order to give Biden victory?

      Trump supporters would scream blue murder, and charge the Democrats with abuse of process. The only resolution is that Congress accepts the certified electoral slates from the states, distasteful as it might be, otherwise an opposition-controlled Congress could overturn the people’s vote any time they liked.

      So I think Senator Cotton (and other Republicans) are correct to not support objections.

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    Ian Hill

    Sorry, that just sprung to mind.

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    Peter Fitzroy

    Just hope that Jo and her family are safe, and not impacted by the bushfires around Perth WA

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      Graeme#4

      When you look at the news footage of the areas such as the homes in Gosnells that were threatened, the “firebreak” behind their rear fences was only 2 metres or less. A scrub fire will easily jump those 2 metres. Why the local councils won’t put in decent width firebreaks behind houses is beyond my understanding.

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    Gunga Din

    Any info of was this video of the original count or a recount?
    If a recount, is it considered to be “by hand recount”?

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    Michel Lasouris

    This is all so New!
    Why is senator McConnell not being interrogated as a CCP plant, and his wife.
    Why is there no more news about Eric Swalwell and his Chinese spy/ho Fang fang?
    Why is Pelosi, who mentored Swalwell when she knew about the spy, AND GAVE HIM A JOB on the INTELLEGENCE Committee?
    Why does Dozy Joe look so like Jack Nicholson’s JOKER when he “smiles’? Actually it seems his face falls apart……so gross!
    When the extent of rank Electoral Fraud is finally discovered will the Democrat apparatchics be prosecuted and will Trump have to build a special jail for these CCN collaborators?
    So many questions but no answers…..yet

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