JoNova
A science presenter, writer, speaker & former TV host; author of The Skeptic's Handbook (over 200,000 copies distributed & available in 15 languages).
Jo appreciates your support to help her keep doing what she does. This blog is funded by donations. Thanks!
Follow Jo's Tweets To report "lost" comments or defamatory and offensive remarks, email the moderators at: support.jonova AT proton.me
Statistics
There were no comments but someone had voted 3 out of 10. Irrational or just strange?
20
I like to vote, just to see the tally move.
And guess what, voting high doesn’t change the score, (for some reason).
And just out of the blue…. does it really matter what the score was?
00
It was 8.0 with four. I clicked 10. New number became 8.4, for a sum of 42. I believe that is the answer. If everyone now clicks 10, by the end of the day the answer will become 9.9238. By dusk, look for 9.94838. Look out, here comes almost 10.
50
Pssst. lotto closes at 6.30p any projections for those numbers you care to share. Pleeeze, cost of living and all that lol.
10
I vote 10 always because I value the dialogue so rare in this world.
150
Even here there is groupthink. Go against the tide and you will earn an enemy who red thumbs consistently.
00
Even the algorithm will work against you. My post above must contain a naughty word.
00
I have a new article looking at monthly changes in Earth’s reflectivity over the CERES era:
https://1drv.ms/b/c/cdb8a3183f0262ad/Ec-ipzis2m1OgKG-Botu6k0BF7YKpuojoV8_GelmozMWYw?e=ngznVv
I also consider the changes in solar forcing due to Sun to Earth position changes over the same period. An interesting observation is that 2024 was the peak of the Sun’s northern excursion out of of Earth’s orbital plane. It does a Biot of a jig before getting back into plane in 2037. Then moving south of the plane.
40
Has anyone tried to open Rick’s link?
I get to a page that asks me to sign into a Microsoft account! I don’t recall that before.
20
This ling was generated in a different way. May work for you.
https://1drv.ms/b/c/cdb8a3183f0262ad/Ec-ipzis2m1OgKG-Botu6k0BF7YKpuojoV8_GelmozMWYw?e=i1Y3he
10
Without having the benefit of reading Rick’s article, I am wondering how the the Sun can move out of the plane if the Earth’s orbit?
I always imagined the the Earth had a near circular orbit with the Sun in the middle.
10
I posted another link at your comment above.
All the bodies in the solar system rotate around the barycentre. That is how the barycentre is defined. The orbit of the SUN, as determined by NASA, is quite erratic. In decades to century the Sun orbit does not even go around the barycentre according to NASA. However I can achieve a circular orbit around the barycentre using the same planetary pulls that NASA determines. So I am not convinced the Sun can be reduced tio a point mass to accurately determine its orbit. The Sun orbit I am referring to here is in Earth’s orbital plane. All my analysis is based on NASA’s orbital path not the circular one that also satisfies the force equations.
I do agree with NASA that the Sun has motion perpendicular to Earth’s orbital plane. It is quite a short period of around 35 years with a shorter dither around 9 years. The article has a plot of the Z-axis motion. It only changes declination be a few percent over its range but that is enough to alter the solar intensities in the hemispheres. The motion has been mostly northward during the CERES period. The northward progression peaked in 2024. The Sun will be back in Earth’s plane around 2037 on its southbound excursion.
Climate models are based on energy accumulation rather than solar intensity so are completely blind to year-to-year changes in Earth’s position relative to the Sun. Energy accumulation in both hemispheres is almost the same over an annual cycle but the SH gets its dose in 7 days less than the NH in the present era. Summer solar intensity in the SH is about 10% higher than in the NH. But that situation started reversing around 1700. By the year 9,000 the NH will experience almost the same solar intensity as the SH now gets. The oceans will continue to warm to that millennia but the snowfall will overtake snow melt well before that. Greenland is already gaining elevation and some of the glaciers are advancing again. Ice accumulates on high ground and flows down slope. All land north of 40N will eventually be high ground because it will be ice sheets.
50
In a very primitive way I see one Earth hemisphere as a dot on internal surface of a school Solar Globus with 150 million km radius.
ChatGPT says the whole area irradiated by Sun at that radius is 11 million times larger.
I know I am wrong, the real reason for Arctic ice melting, GBR dying off, etc, etc.., is Evil Carbon but somehow I feel that Helios sneeze is more important.
30
Thank you Rick, most interesting. I’m amazed that the factors you bring up are completely ignored by the so-called ‘experts’, when they obviously have a large effect on our climate.
10
Not only have you stolen our actors, musicians, sportsmenpersons AND our America’s Cup (although that was a long time ago eh) now a Melburnistani has taken our BIGGEST BROWN TROUT EVAAAH Award having caught – and released – a 17.75 kg brownie [see photo] on a 4 kg line earlier this year:
https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/national/569785/aussie-angler-reels-in-world-record-catch-in-twizel
The monster was caught in the Ohau Channel, part of the huge hydroelectric dam system built in the 1950/60s near Omarama, NZ’s gliding capital, close to Mt Cook. We don’t build dams like that anymore… so much rain, such little electricity.
Let them eat trout.
110
Yes, but we gave you possums, possums.
60
Possums?
many of said possums are converted, annually, into socks, purses, stuffed toys, clothing, etc.
And trees decorated with pink fluorescent ribbon to warn humans that such trees are laced with poison baits
10
How expensive would possum fur sox be? They sound great if in southern climes.
00
FWIW – B29 flight
“Living history
Courtesy of a link provided by our Australian correspondent Andrew, here’s a half-hour video of a flight aboard one of only two surviving B-29 Superfortress bombers from World War II. ”
https://youtu.be/iKSCrkmb1Bg
Via https://bayourenaissanceman.blogspot.com/2025/08/living-history.html
10
More B-29s fell out of the air than were shot down by enemy fire. No thanks.
B-29 Accidents vs Enemy Fire
Yes, more B-29s were lost to accidents and mechanical failures than to enemy fire during World War II. A total of 414 B-29 Superfortresses were lost while bombing Japan, with 147 losses attributed to flak and Japanese fighters, and 267 losses due to engine fires, mechanical failures, takeoff crashes, and other “operational losses”.
This means that for every B-29 lost to enemy action, nearly two were lost to accidents and crashes.
The problematic Wright R-3350 engines, which had flammable magnesium crankcases, were a major source of these operational losses.
AI-generated answer. Please verify critical facts.
00
The platform of choice to load an atomic bomb into.
00
Engines caught fire and propellors departed the plane.
00
I believe that the “Super Constellations” flown by Qantas, with the same or very similar engine, also used to chew through their engines on the Pacific run. The Neptunes also had the same engine. Have one of these engines, two rows of nine cylinders, at the local Aviation Museum.
10
The piston engines on the Neptune were pretty good afaik. I was queer trades on them for over two years.
On the B-29 they leaked oil badly, that caught alight burning the magnesium crank case as mentioned above. Mag burns hot and the wing mainspar didn’t survive long.
The fans on the Neptune were 14ft dia and looked scary under fluro light.
00
“Presumably they are afraid people will have heart attacks and they haven’t got enough epipens and defibrillators or something:”
Defibrillators are the new mobile phones, they are absolutely everywhere and no-one knows exactly how to use them. Enough to suggest some-one’s cousin has the contract for importing and distributing them, it wouldn’t happen naturally
Along with needing defibs for climate, we apparently need them for wrinkly drivers! All the arguments about making aged driving tests compulsory over Australia, a mention of how it makes no difference, but no mention of all as to if the old people crashing there cars more were vaxxed or not!
“With more elderly drivers continuing to populate local roads, should Australia introduce mandatory licence retesting? We spoke to experts..(lol- hubris of journos!)..Following the tragic death of two pedestrians after a 91-year-old woman lost control of her vehicle in early July 2025, Victorian road authorities are examining the possibility of introducing mandatory testing for elderly drivers, joining the likes of New South Wales…”Every lever that we can pull to save people’s lives is so important,” Melissa Horne, Victorian Roads Minister, said… drivers aged 65 years old and above were “the most dangerous behind the wheel..”
This one fact should have stopped the who stupid idea dead-
““Research shows that jurisdictions with age-based mandatory [licence] retesting do not achieve safety outcomes. Mandatory testing can unfairly disadvantage older adults without improving road safety”.”
..but no, someone has a bandwagon to push, so facts will be ignored over feelings..
https://www.drive.com.au/caradvice/should-australia-introduce-national-mandatory-licence-retesting/?utm_campaign=syndication&utm_source=smh.com.au&utm_content=article_4&utm_medium=partner
So, we know there’s a problem, but we’re still looking for a solution that doesn’t involve any investigation into Covid and the vaxx!
110
A bit like how some States have roadworthy checks every year and others on have roadworthies at change of ownership. Yet the level of incidents due to unroadworthy cars is the same.
20
Sorry Boss, I was rushed and mis-typed my email address again!
00
FWIW –
” “Real Mann of Science™ Offers Expert Analogy”Things have been so busy on a national and world stage lately that I haven’t had time to keep up with everyone’s favorite self-aggrandizing climate huckster, disgraced Professor Michael Mann.”
More at
https://hotair.com/tree-hugging-sister/2025/08/12/real-mann-of-science-offers-expert-analogy-n3805751
50
That is brilliant.
Mark Steyn prevails and Michael Mann is in financial trouble.
40
I doubt Michael Mann is in financial strife. His legal bills are paid by the CSLDF. It was originally set up to cover Mann’s legal battles with those who claimed the hockey stick was garbage on steroids.
Mann’s Hockey Stick chart featured on page 3 of the summary for policy makers in AR3 (2001). It was revered as the holy grail of climate armageddon. There was massive resistance to accepting the reality that it was ulter garbage manufactured by a scoundrel. It was dumped from AR5 when the MWP re-appeared.
It is possible that so much Federal funding is being removed from the climate hoaxers that the CSLDF will run out of funds – time will tell.
The Hockey Stick is still not condemned in anti-dscxience realms like Wikipedia but it was a step too far for the UN to keep pushing that particular scrap of garbage amongst the less provocative garbage.
60
FWIW – some reading for “Elbow”?
“European Leaders Stepping on Rake After Rake Appeasing Palestinians”
https://hotair.com/tree-hugging-sister/2025/08/12/european-leaders-stepping-on-rake-after-rake-appeasing-palestinians-n3805746
82
For the sake of all youngest Australians, how I wish for the green socialists learn the barest minimum about the fate of people who brought their idols to power.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/17th_Congress_of_the_All-Union_Communist_Party_%28Bolsheviks%29?utm_source=chatgpt.com
10
Not completely balanced but their ABC is reporting on the grand jury set up to assess the Russia hoax:
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2025-08-06/us-doj-to-open-grand-jury-to-investigate-obama-officials-source-/105617574
20
Best they don’t let the grass grow under their feet. Four yrs isn’t long in the US high courts.
00
For an hour of self-flagellation, I watched a YouTube video about Fresno, California, the crystal meth capital of the world.
The city is about half way between San Francisco and Los Angeles, inland in the good agricultural land of the central valley, on what was Highway 101 when I drove it a few times in the 1980s.
It was a frightening video. So many people were on meth for so much of each day that they had moved from the working class pool to the addicted pool of ghost-like horrors. So strongly is the mind altered that it is dominated by one question, “How do I get my next hit?”. Gone is the thought of employment, of doing something to help others. There is no purpose in life other than the feel of the next dose of meth, sometimes ten times a day. Crime has soared as the main way to pay for the habit is crime like theft with violence. Addicts speak on camera that rehabilitation is useless because the only approved action of the addict is to get more meth, not less at a rehab centre.
Videos of Fresno streets show little car traffic, like Sunday Arvo in early Melbourne with liquor laws or in the movie “On the Beach”.
Sell the car, buy meth. There seems to be no way to treat Fresno apart from cancelling it to promote its inevitable decay and ending.
This horrible picture caused me alarm. Here it was, happening in a real life where citizens could no longer speak about much more than meth.
I personally see Fresno as shown to be the sad way of the future in Australia. We have elected politicians of low calibre enforcing stupidity like net zero. We have evil players like Gameau making films designed for schoolchild education, propaganda for our 5 year olds, on relatedly weird unscientific topics, marketed by money-makers who have subsumed the proper role of high quality teachers. When I see news clips of 15 year olds stealing cars with violence to help them raid private homes by with weapons like guns, knives, machetes to steal money from innocent, ordinary residents — then I see similarity to the mind-sets of the meth affected Fresno zombies. I worry for our future.
Some comfort comes from the actions of President Trump, to reverse this disgusting social decay by taking over criminal matters in Washington, D.C.
When will we Australians feel the benefit of some new, educated, intelligent, charismatic if needed, people to take out the current crop of pollies to the local tip? I am too old.
Question: Why do our “leaders” not see this future danger? My main answer at present is because too many pollies and helpers are already captured by mind benders like crystal meth, Fresno style.
Geoff S
110
‘Why do our “leaders” not see this future danger?’
We are not Americans, different culture, it won’t happen here.
Trump needs to round up all the meth addicts and put them in a concentration camp in the middle of nowhere. They will go voluntarily because they will be fed, clothed and given as much meth as they need. The only avenue for escape is three months drug free.
01
Gordo,
But it has happened here.
Today radio 3AW was on about Australia classed as the top meth nation worldwide.
It was based on analysis of waste water analysis so it did not elucidate mechanisms.
…
As an analogy that old folk can comprehend, life is a cycle where commonly, one transits from winner to loser.
It is seen all the time in sport.
It is seen in population genetics, when reproductive success drops off with age.
It is seen, but seldom talked about, in science. As an older scientist who once used to lead, I now spend a lot of time following science.
We should talk about cycles off capability in scientists. Too much publication is now by scientists past their peak, on the train of publish or perish. Most of it is crap.
Life in Fresno illustrates the cycle accelerated by chemical drugs. The addicts have contributed their most to life. Ahead lies dependence in all its forms, then an early death.
Geoff S
20
Thanks Geoff, regional New South Wales has the most meth use among rural Australia. Clearly I haven’t taken any interest in local news.
A dry out facility in the Simpson Desert will suffice, the experience will profoundly change their world view.
Science has been corrupted by the AGW gravy train, so before the next election we need to discredit climate science. I’m putting faith in Trump opening up a can of worms and the effect that will have around the world.
20
I wonder where the crystal meth comes from.
Are the precursor chemicals imported?
Is it right that they are imported, from China?
Is this Great Power politics playing out, with an earlier administration in the US fixated not on strengthening borders, but on obscuring the mental decline of the President?
Auto
00
…revenge for the Opium Wars by the race that never forgets?
20
FWIW – more of that “cheaper energy” and- – –
“New Jersey’s electric bills tripled this summer — and could cost Dems the state”
““They took generation off before they brought generation on,” one energy expert told me, pointing to the state’s aggressive shutdown of coal-powered plants under Democratic Gov. Phil Murphy and the closure of the Oyster Creek nuclear power plant in 2018.”
https://nypost.com/2025/08/10/opinion/new-jerseys-insane-electric-bills-could-cost-dems-the-state/
Via Instapundit
50
Its amazing how uniformly destructive stupid, lefty, climate alarminsta politicians can be across the planet.
Germany, Australia, UK, Spain, assorted US States all making the same stupid mistakes adnauseum. The same sort of techically clueless people making decisions about things they should not be near , and repeatedly stuffing it up. Who will be the first to get into a disaster situation?
10
Such uniformity of implementation requires organisation, not mere stupidity.
00
With respect to that
I was recently reading of the early Neolithic bloom of the early elements of civilisation at about the same time across multiple centres which had, as far as we know, no interconnections for cross fertilisation
00
Not sure, but I think this is a first from Peta Credlin, in the Sunday Telegraph ( August 10, 1025 ) (on page 21) (paywalled) in her article:
“Why ‘climate action’ advocates need to justify their policies”
are the words “plant food” ( !!! ) in the context:
” … and that increased atmospheric CO2 (because it’s a plant food) is more likely to do good than harm.”
While I think she could have used stronger words she’s at least introduced the concept to a wider audience.
Cheers,
Dave B
60
The Liberals must stop digging, they have passed 6 feet.
On the other hand, I read that NSW Young Libs demand more…
60
I offer the Coalition (et al) my mantra as a possible party slogan:
” CO2 is not
a pollutant,
it is a
plant food “
10
Gen Z try “old” technology
https://youtu.be/mrLFuutjgSE?si=Wuy8ZKdNUV29_ZK5
Now adjust VCR tracking.😆
Just imagine – in 30 years laptops, pc’s and dumbphones will all be gone.
A keyboard!! How quaint!
00
Oh, WordPerfect and the myriad of special WP codes !
I recall how our dept secretary beat me over the head and body because I refused to accept mouse as away of life…
30
Way back in BC I got the job of bringing up our first computer – an S100 system with two 8 inch floppys.
I explored the software material and said to the typing pool
“There is a thing here called a word processor (the mighty Wordstar). I need someone to drive the keyboard while I read the book so we can see what it does”.
They volunteered the newest recruit who was quick to catch on that she was never again going to have to retype.
The office had Canon daisy wheel typewriters which had an RS232 interface. We scrounged one of those and then were in quality printouts.
30
refused to accept mouse as away of life
Some of us die hard types were hoping track balls would eventually become cheaper and more available
00
FWIW
“Electric power fantasies collide out West”
“The data center people have no use for intermittent wind and solar. They are talking gas, small nuclear, even coal, since the President is all for it. They are especially not interested in wind and solar from hundreds of miles away. In fact, they are talking about co-locating data centers with power plants, backed up by the grid, since no power plant runs all the time.
Suddenly, the electric power planning world is a scene of chaos and confusion. The wind and solar folks are acting like this data center push is just a speed bump, but it is a head-on collision. Serious proposals to build reliable generation are springing up everywhere.”
https://wattsupwiththat.com/2025/08/12/electric-power-fantasies-collide-out-west/
30
FWIW
“Europe and Ukraine: defeat of Moscow a miscalculation of Napoleonic proportions”
https://brusselssignal.eu/2025/08/europe-and-ukraine-defeat-of-moscow-a-miscalculation-of-napoleonic-proportions/
Via https://hotair.com/headlines/2025/08/12/europe-and-ukraine-defeat-of-moscow-a-miscalculation-of-napoleonic-proportions-n3805736
40
Sorry comrade, if Trump turns his back on Ukraine then NATO is dead in the water, so the Coalition of the Willing would come to the fore and defeat that Kremlin mongrel.
Australian troops on active duty for a righteous cause.
Imagine the Russian Federation after Putin and his fascist clique have surrendered, which they eventually will, history doesn’t repeat.
03
Good grief, the meds remember the meds
61
“so the Coalition of the Willing would come to the fore and …” show the solidarity of the BRICS by openly helping Russia if she asks for it.
EG, your world is dead in the water, the propaganda is thicker than the hull of the boat you are all clinging to… America’s golden age ended at the turn of the century, the same as the previous Empire’s ended at the turn of the previous century. Even as the barbarians over-ran Rome, people believed the Roman Empire controlled the world. The West are now less than 50% of the world’s GDp, and the rest of the world have a lot of bones to pick with the war-mongering colonisers/invaders. If First Nations in our own countries need to be compensated for what happened 300years ago, all those countries invaded by the West in those 300years are thinking of what they deserve!
“Imagine the Russian Federation after Putin and his fascist clique have surrendered, ” If America has its way the Federation will be broken into 15 small States, all easily controlled by the CIA. Those plans have been made public.
10
Putin wants to recreate the Soviet Union in Western Europe, that won’t wash.
The Russian Federation should return to the Gorbachev model after Putin has gone, then free market economics would avoid the calamity of the 1990s.
I agree in principle that super power rivalry has come to an end, the US and Russia are heading toward stagflation and nobody wants their Bonds.
Talking of BRICS I think Australia will join after Putin and Xi have departed, which shouldn’t be too long. China is going to stop taking Russian oil, which could hasten the end of the European war.
This new Catholic Pope is extraordinary, charismatic in the true sense of the word. he’s dismantling the Vatican theocracy.
02
FWIW
“Gotcha: Another Nail Just Got Hammered in Bogus ‘D.C. Crime Is Down!’ Talking Point”
“A good rule of thumb regarding Democrats is that if their lips are moving, nine times out of ten, they’re either lying or misleading the public in some other way. But when it comes to crime matters and how to combat them, you can rest assured that they are full of it 100 percent of the time.”
https://redstate.com/sister-toldjah/2025/08/12/another-nail-is-hammered-in-the-crime-is-down-in-dc-talking-point-n2192751
40
And
“JUST IN: Homeless Person Tries to Rob Harmeet Dhillon in DC”
“Crime is down in Washington, DC, just ask the fake news media.
Justice Department official Harmeet Dhillon revealed that a homeless man in DC almost robbed her as she was walking to the DOJ on Tuesday afternoon.”
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2025/08/new-homeless-person-dc-tries-rob-harmeet-dhillon/
40
Arctic sea ice extent has been stable since 2007, Al Gore got it badly wrong.
https://notrickszone.com/2025/08/11/new-study-no-decline-in-arctic-sea-ice-extent-no-long-term-trend-since-2007/
21
Radical new plan would BAN foreign-born drivers but take 2 million cars off Britain’s roads
A controversial new report from a London-based think tank has called for UK driving licences to be issued only to people holding a British birth certificate — a move it says would slash congestion, improve air quality and win strong support from British voters.
Freedom21, which describes itself as “a new, independent policy research organisation”, claims the measure could take up to 2.1 million vehicles off Britain’s roads within five years by preventing foreign-born residents from renewing or obtaining licences.
https://www.visionnews.online/post/radical-new-plan-would-ban-foreign-born-drivers-but-take-2-million-cars-off-britain-s-roads
1. Can gimmigrants drive anyway?
2. How will climate loons get to protests?
On pushbikes?
30
Pffft! They will ignore driving licences completely, knowing they will never get prosecuted in the Once Great Britain…
Sharia Law will declare all male members of that religion to be able to drive by divine right.
40
Wenny Pong is giving $500 million of Aussie taxpayer money to Vanuatu.
It includes $120 million for two large data centres. Most of Vanuatu’s electricity comes from diesel generators, not cheap coal, gas, nuclear or hydro power. So how’s that going to work?
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2025-08-12/australia-and-vanuatu-close-to-signing-nakamal-agreement/105640026
30
Another dud investment by Benny Pong.
30
Penury Wrong!
10
https://gcaptain.com/trump-admin-threatens-retaliation-against-countries-backing-shippings-net-zero-emissions-plan/
“The U.S. on Tuesday rejected the “Net-Zero Framework” proposal by the International Maritime Organization, which is aimed at reducing global greenhouse gas emissions from the international shipping sector, and threatened measures against countries that support it.
“The announcement was made in a joint statement by Secretary of State Marco Rubio, Commerce Secretary Howard Lutnick, Energy Secretary Chris Wright and Transportation Secretary Sean Duffy, comes ahead of a vote at the United Nations’ shipping agency to adopt the net-zero proposal in October.”
A nice move – let us see if Sir Starmer, or other parrergons of probity get too understand that CO2 is plant food, and is only a trace gas …
Auto
50
Auto
One night in a men’s club I heard this conversation –
Customer (high browing) to barman – “You are supposed to call me “Sir””
Barman “In your case I’ll spell it “Cur””
20
FWIW – for your planning
“IT’S CERTAINLY POSSIBLE, BUT MY GUESS IS IT WON’T WORK ANY BETTER THAN THE “BIRD FLU” FOOT STOMPING OR THE “MONKEYPOX” SCREAMING: The new pending “plandemic” – is it scheduled for November? What it might involve and when it might be ‘declared’.
{Link https://jessicar.substack.com/p/the-new-pending-plandemic-is-it-scheduled?r=1jzuql&utm_campaign=post&utm_medium=web&triedRedirect=true}
I suspect the left doesn’t realize this, partly because if they did it would panic them even more, but the lockdowns and covid panic is the sort of trick that works precisely once. The very act of performing it making it impossible for it to work again.”
https://instapundit.com/738046/#disqus_thread
21
FWIW – Instapundit lead-in
“A SCIENTIST WILLING TO ADMIT HE WAS WRONG ABOUT GLOBAL WARMING: Why I Stopped Being a Climate Catastrophist. And why so many climate pragmatists can’t quit catastrophism.”
https://www.breakthroughjournal.org/p/why-i-stopped-being-a-climate-catastrophist
Via https://instapundit.com/738036/#disqus_thread
Long but worth the read IMO
10
Just seen this [from Monday].
It was – errr, not – all over the BBC [who presumably have a phone line to Helsinki]: –
https://www.france24.com/en/europe/20250811-finland-charges-captain-of-russian-shadow-fleet-tanker-over-baltic-sea-cable-sabotage
“Finnish prosecutors have charged the captain and two officers of a tanker believed to be part of Russia’s “shadow fleet” with sabotage on Monday, accusing them of dragging an anchor along the Gulf of Finland seabed last December and cutting five undersea cables, causing tens of millions of euros in damage.”
Auto
10
Obviously the cuddly Poisoner Putin doesn’t know about the Mal-advised Mr. Miliband’s Very Expensive Underwater Wires, to bring power from Scotland to North-East England, and Yorkshire.
At a cost of north of £6,000 million [2025 prices …].
And they will work only if the wind is blowing ‘nicely’.
But I am sure that if the benevolent Russian Tyrant did know about these [as yet unbuilt] wires, he would never dream of sending his Giant Underwater Scissors to harm them. God forbid.
And it is practically certain that the arrested Master & crew just happened to dredge their anchor for 40 miles, innocently, across several cables and data links. Isn’t it?
Auto
00
“And it is practically certain that the arrested Master & crew just happened to dredge their anchor for 40 miles,”
Gosh, you’d think those Russkies would’ve learnt something after blowing up their own Nordestream pipeline..
30