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Your Body, My Choice, says Biden

Your body, My Choice. Joe Biden. Babylon Bee.

Babylon Bee

Biden announced that all companies with 100 or more employees must enforce mandatory vaccination. People will have the freedom to quit their job or perhaps get tested every week, and be treated like a leper…

It’s not about health —  there is no allowance for people who have already caught Covid and survived, who likely have much better protection. Israeli research suggests people who have caught covid are 13 times less likely to get reinfected than the double vaxxed are to catch covid six months after vaccination. If the unvaxxed have to get tested, why don’t the vaxxed?

Something in this message does not add up. What could it be?

The virus is deadly, and the vaccine works, but you are too stupid to decide for yourself. Trust us, we care and respect you!

My headline above was shamelessly stolen from The Babylon Bee:

Biden Unveils ‘Your Body, My Choice’ Vaccination Program

Babylon Bee

WASHINGTON, D.C.—In a speech today, Joe Biden unveiled a brand new program to force the rest of the country to get vaccinated, entitled “Your Body, My Choice.”

Companies will be forced to comply with the mandate until the Supreme Court strikes it down in a few hours.

Is this the moment the non-Left discover their Mojo?

There comes a point when every totalitarian movement goes too far. Even people who are pro-vaccine are anti-mandatory vaccination. The RNC “Intends to Sue Biden Administration on Unconstitutional Mandate”, and Governors are too:

Governors Immediately Push Back On ‘Unconstitutional’ Biden Plan: ‘Will Fight Them To The Gates Of Hell’

Daily Wire

The pushback from governors comes after the administration said on Thursday that The Department of Labor’s Occupational Safety and Health Administration (OSHA) will force all employers with 100 or more employees “to ensure their workforce is fully vaccinated or require any workers who remain unvaccinated to produce a negative test result on at least a weekly basis before coming to work.”

Governors vowing to stop this include the Governor of Florida, Texas, Mississipi, Georgia, South Dakota, South Carolina, Arizona, Askansas, Iowa, Montana, Oklahoma, Missouri, and the list grows… Wyoming, Tenessee, Alaska,

There are some good comments under The Daily Wire.

The vaccines reduce hospitalization and deaths significantly in high risk groups. It makes sense for some people to get vaccinated, but not for all. And the long term risks aren’t known. Where is the informed consent?

If governments cared about our health they would combine vaccines with cheap antivirals to reduce the risks and the rate of spread. They’d let us choose the therapy we want with our doctors help.

If governments want us to trust them, they have to act trustworthy

@CraigKellyMP

STOP dividing our society

STOP medical segregation & apartheid

STOP trashing our fundamental human right of #InformedConsent

In Australia, appallingly, the TGA has just forbidden doctors from prescribing ivermectin. If Pfizer were actually running the TGA would the decisions have been any different?  We train doctors for six years, but expect them to act as though they are robots for government bureaus. I’ll have more to say on this soon.

We need a free market in medicines. We need a free market in doctors.

REFERENCE:

Gazit et al (2021) Comparing SARS-CoV-2 natural immunity to vaccine-induced immunity: reinfections versus breakthrough infections, doi: https://doi.org/10.1101/2021.08.24.21262415

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    clarence.t

    Apparently a whole heap of F22’s and parts of the US Air Force are now grounded as pilots and support staff who refuse to be bullied, just walk of the job..

    Hopefully, police and other service staff will do the same.

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      Brenda Spence

      And there are a heap of exemptions including postal workers and members of congress and their aides! Why is it so?

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        another ian

        “Quid Pro Joe, Postal Workers Use Leverage from 2020 Mail-in Ballot Fraud to Gain Exemption From Vaccine Mandate
        September 9, 2021 | Sundance | 399 Comments”

        https://theconservativetreehouse.com/blog/2021/09/09/quid-pro-joe-postal-workers-use-leverage-from-2020-mail-in-ballot-fraud-to-gain-exemption-from-vaccine-mandate/

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        OldOzzie

        To Quote Scotty from Marketing, Gladys, Dictator Dan, Pallachook etc “We are All in This Together”

        POLITICS – Members of Congress and Their Staff Are Exempt From Biden’s Vaccine Mandate

        President Joe Biden’s new vaccine mandates for federal employees don’t apply to members of Congress or those who work for Congress or the federal court system.

        Biden issued two executive orders on Thursday requiring vaccination against COVID for federal workers and contractors who work for the federal government. He also asked the Department of Labor to issue an emergency order requiring businesses with more than 100 employees to ensure their workers are vaccinated or tested on a weekly basis.

        However, Biden’s order on federal workers applies to employees of the executive branch. The House of Representatives and the Senate belong to the separate legislative branch, and the courts to the judicial branch of the federal government.

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          David Maddison

          Typical Leftist double standards.

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            Ronin

            I liked the line, ‘ Clearly they are losing the war on covid, so they intend scapegoating all the no vaxxers.’
            Applies here too.

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          OriginalSteve

          Busted!

          CDC says give incoming refugees to the USA Ivermectin

          Clearly its safe to use

          https://www.cdc.gov/immigrantrefugeehealth/pdf/intestinal-parasites-overseas.pdf

          “All Middle Eastern, Asian, North African, Latin American, and Caribbean refugees, with exceptions noted in this document, should receive presumptive therapy with:

          o Albendazole, single dose of 400 mg (200 mg for children 12-23 months) AND o Ivermectin, two doses 200 mcg/Kg orally once a day for 2 days before departure to the United States.

          • All African refugees who did not originate from or reside in countries where Loa loa infection is endemic (Box 1), with exceptions noted in this document, should receive presumptive therapy with:

          o Albendazole, single dose of 400 mg (200 mg for children 12-23 months) AND o Ivermectin, two doses 200 mcg/Kg orally once a day for 2 days AND

          o Praziquantel, 40 mg/kg, which may be divided in two doses before refugees depart for the United States.

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            ColA

            I think that the US was giving this application of Ivermectin to Immigrants for many years, it is just that the Ivermectin now protests them from 1 more thing.

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          OldOzzie

          Australia is in no mood to see anti-vaxxers delaying the road out of lockdowns

          Cameron Stewart

          On current rates, by the middle of next month, the vaccinated majority in NSW will be able to visit family and friends, dine out, drink in a pub, go to a hairdresser and attend theatre and sporting events, albeit with limited numbers. The unvaccinated will have none of these freedoms.

          This will anger a minority in the conservative libertarian wing of the Coalition and it will dismay anti-vaxxers, but it says much about the prevailing public mood, not just in NSW and Australia, but across the Western world, which is increasingly intolerant of those who choose not to get the jab to help end this global pandemic.

          In the US this week, Joe Biden announced sweeping new vaccine requirements on federal workers, large employers and health care staff in an effort to reduce the 80 million unvaccinated Americans.

          While many Republicans are opposed to the move, it is a huge step for the President to take in a country that adopts a much more libertarian view of its freedoms and personal choices than does Australia. Biden’s actions are in response to a surge in infections and deaths almost confined to those who are unvaccinated by choice.

          Across Europe, new rules are locking the unvaccinated out of pubs, restaurants, sport events and other social activities.

          The NSW road map is a powerful incentive to vaccinate for those who sitting on the fence but it offers a bleak future for hard line anti-vaxxers.

          From the Comments

          Paul
          20 minutes ago

          I note that you left out the exemptions for members of Congress, the federal courts and all of their staff.
          Cease with the description of those who hesitate to take the vaccination with the perjorative term antivaxxer. Furthermore
          , I’d very much like to see the sample size of the survey in which the majority of Australians agree with the idea that those who don’t elect vaccination to become a medical underclass.

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              OldOzzie

              Members of Congress and Their Staff Are Exempt From Biden’s Vaccine Mandate

              Speaker of the House Nancy Pelosi said at a press conference on April 29 that the House couldn’t require members to be vaccinated. Video clips of those remarks gained renewed attention online following Biden’s announcement.

              “So—so here is the thing. We are—we cannot require someone to be vaccinated. That’s just not what we can do. It is a matter of privacy to know who is or who isn’t,” Pelosi said.

              “I can’t go to the Capitol Physician and say, ‘Give me the names of people who aren’t vaccinated, so I can go encourage them or make it known to others to encourage them to be vaccinated.’ So we can’t—we can’t do that,” she said.

              Pelosi’s office reiterated that position in a statement to Newsweek on Friday, saying the speaker’s April 29 remarks were “referring to the institution in which she serves.”

              “She’s saying she cannot force Members to be vaccinated, which is true,” the statement said.

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            OldOzzie

            ‘Rules for Thee’: Biden’s Vaccine Mandates Don’t Apply to a Big Group of Hypocrites

            Gotta love the “Rules for thee, but not for me” crowd.

            How many times with Democrats have we seen them pushing for mandates or restrictions in regard to COVID and then disregarding those very same rules themselves? Sometimes within the same day — as with Joe Biden who signed a mask mandate for federal property and then immediately broke it, as did members of his family.

            Joe Biden came out with his new dictatorial vaccine mandates on Thursday – executive orders requiring federal employees and federal contractors to be vaccinated and requiring that private businesses with over 100 employees to ensure their employees are vaccinated or tested on a weekly basis. Democratic politicians immediately embraced these edicts, even without knowing what they would say.

            But in a move that should not be surprising to us, after all the hypocritical nonsense they have shoved at us, while Biden’s order applies to the folks in the executive branch, it doesn’t apply to the legislative or the judicial branch. Members of Congress and their staff do not have to comply with the mandates. So, 100 million Americans may have to deal with it but they don’t. But of course, they’re perfectly willing to impose it on you — just not themselves.

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          OldOzzie

          Earlier in the day, during the state’s second last daily public Covid-19 ministerial update, NSW Health Minister Brad Hazzard was pressed with concern from reporters over Senator Keneally travelling more than 5km as part of her campaign.

          Mr Hazzard said he did not know whether Senator Keneally was in Fairfield on Saturday but understood exemptions were in place.

          “Generally (for) politicians, I think there are some exceptions available under the rules, obviously, for essential work but I would have to come back to you on the details of that,” he said. “I would need legal advice.”

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          jelly+34

          Why is it that NONE of OUR betters on both sides of the isles have had the”Clotshot?”Perhaps because it’s NOT good for you???????

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      Ian

      “Hopefully, police and other service staff will do the same.”

      Even more hopefully President Biden’s colleagues will change his mind or if legislation is required, will team with the Republicans to stop it

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      This Executive Order is so not legal. So just ignore it. No one in the World has the right to mandate a vaccine especially one that is Experimental and only has Emergency Approval.

      In Australia, this Law Firm is taking action against the New Stasi Woke (NSW) Government. I have donated money to the cause……

      https://aflsolicitors.com.au/

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      Fuel Filter

      From: https://voxday.net/2021/09/10/destroying-the-hearts-of-men/

      His conclusion?

      “This is insanity and evil of Lovecraftian proportions. We’re already seeing young athletes collapsing and dying in the middle of sporting events. This is going to happen more and more often as the third and fourth booster shots are required. At this point, it is beginning to become apparent that we may be witnessing one of the greatest crimes in human history. It would not surprise me in the least if in the future, when the full extent of the truth is revealed, we see governments fall as scientists and doctors are hunted down like dangerous vermin.”

      Short post, and to the point. RTWT…

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      Bad Samaritan

      clarence. Where did you get this info about the F22s etc being grounded?

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      John Michelmore

      Jo, Parliamentary petitions concerning Ivermectin need publishing EN 3141 and EN 3214

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    RightOverLabour

    The ban on Ivermectin has everything to do with Big Pharma and profits. The evidence on Ivermectin keeps coming in and the safety of it is unparalleled. Even if it has no effect on covid, (and the observational studies from India, Mexico, South America and the USA indicate that it has an effect), it has no side effects worth worrying about, unlike the potentially toxic, experimental vaccine with potentially 50,000 deaths and 2 million other reported side effects. Ivermectin deaths? Not one ever recorded, other side effects, – possibly 6,000 over 40 years, mostly attributed to Loa Loa and the death of parasites it’s designed to kill.

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      Don+B

      From the U.S., The Great Ivermectin Deworming Hoax:

       “In a normal year, the Kentucky Poison Control Center might receive one call from someone who has taken ivermectin, a drug commonly used to treat parasites in livestock. But amid increasing misinformation about the drug’s ability to both treat and prevent COVID-19, that number has increased to six this year.”

      This alarming news was published in Spectrum News – formerly known as Time Warner Cable – on August 24, 2021, and should be a lesson to every American.

       https://spectrumnews1.com/ky/louisville/news/2021/08/24/ivermectin-calls-to-kentucky-poison-control-are-up

      The lesson is not about Ivermectin being poisonous because it isn’t, but about the pervasiveness of a type of new internet propaganda termed “informational flooding.”

      https://www.thedesertreview.com/opinion/columnists/the-great-ivermectin-deworming-hoax/article_19b8f2a6-0f29-11ec-94c1-4725bf4978c6.html

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      Lance

      Australia Bans Ivermectin

      “The ruling authority in Australia has just banned doctors from prescribing Ivermectin. The Advisory Committee for Medicines Scheduling and the Australian National COVID Clinical Evidence Taskforce, have determined that any effort to mitigate COVID-19 with therapeutics will likely diminish the goal of vaccinating the entire population. Therefore Ivermectin, which has saved thousands of lives and is widely in use in multiple countries including India, is now official banned from use by Australian doctors.”

      https://theconservativetreehouse.com/blog/2021/09/10/australia-bans-ivermectin/

      Sounds like total dereliction of duty, Political aims, and Desperation to prove tyrannical authority.

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        OldOzzie

        Crawford on Vaccine-Induced Deaths and Ignored Safety Signals

        Vaccine-Induced Deaths Hidden in the Data

        Introduction to the posts below to help non-math readers: In August 2021 Crawford started sniffing around the US Vaccine Adverse Events Register (VAERS). He had recognised that much of the damage from the vaccine follows a similar mechanism to the one used by SARS-Cov-2. He started crunching numbers when he learned that many vaccine-induced deaths were probably being recorded as Covid-19 deaths in the VAERS database (the McLachlan paper). Also worrying was that the CDC wasn’t investigating reported deaths, and that autopsies were being stopped.

        He created daily Case Fatality Rate (CFR) numbers to show any dramatic changes after vaccination programs began. Reported CFRs are just big totals, not day-by-day. If daily CFR went up unexpectedly, it would indicate vaccines were doing damage, because Covid lethality wouldn’t change overnight.

        He aimed to match deaths to when their cases were diagnosed. Because people who die from Covid on average die 18 days after symptoms appear, he created daily CFRs based on deaths for a particular day, compared with case numbers from 18 days previously (the lag he mentions in the posts). To make up for lumpy case reporting he used a running 7 day average (the smoothing he mentions).

        He then checked the 30 days following the beginning of vaccination programs across the world. He found a large spike in daily CFR after vaccination in about 85% of nations. If the CFR didn’t change, often both cases and deaths rose dramatically.

        He then looked at European data and calculated CFR in the same way. To pull all that data together in a comparable way, for each country he set the CFR at the beginning of the vaccination program to an index of 1 (the normalising he mentions). That way any increase in CFR after vaccination turns up as a multiple of the CFR on Day 0 of the vaccination period in each country.

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          greggg

          From OldOzzie’s ‘Crawford on vaccine induced deaths’ link:

          ‘At 360 million doses delivered, these estimates suggest between 72,000 and 180,000 (or maybe even a little more) vaccine-induced deaths in the U.S. during the experimental COVID-19 vaccination program.’

          If Australia gets around 80% of the population double dosed that could result in 8000 to 21000 deaths from covid vaccine.

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        Epicurious

        I listened to an ABC podcast sent to me by a friend extolling the virtues of Remdesivir by the Australian National COVID Clinical Evidence Taskforce and no mention of ivermectin or HCQ as therapies. I can’t imagine why a doctor would recommend the product Remdesivir when it has a notorious reputation and history. If you look at the following and see the video it would appear that the large number of deaths in the US were due to this lung flooding killer drug.

        https://theexpose.uk/2021/09/02/remdesivir-causes-renal-failure-hospital-protocols-are-killing-people/

        Now that Evil has stopped doctors prescribing Ivermectin where can we order it from? Any ideas gratefully accepted.

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          another ian

          A suggestion

          ” In a move that is equal parts idiotic and deadly, the Therapeutic Goods Administration (TGA) has banned doctors from prescribing ivermectin to their patients as a preventative or treatment for the Wuhan virus (COVID-19).

          It’s a move that we must fight and so I’m declaring Monday, 13 September 2021 to be a national day of action against the TGA’s decision to ban ivermectin. People should phone the TGA on 1800 020 653 to demand they reverse their decision to ban doctors from prescribing ivermectin off-label.”

          From a George Christensen email

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          John+PAK

          Epicurious,
          Look up http://www.ivermectin.africa or the many other sites about using Ivermectin in tropical Africa. Over there it appears to be available over the counter without prescription so cannot be the dreaded drug described by our MSM.
          I use Eraquell for worming my old pet horse but the stuff is used on many expensive animals. The box indicates only Ivermectin and Cereal. A colleague suggests a 7mg dose once a week as a COVID prophylactic. He’s not a doctor but has a medical family and his father owned Barratt & Smith Pathology. My Dr friend says you can safely take a 10X dose but run it by your doctor.
          One cubic centimetre of water from a syringe weighs one gram which is useful if you don’t own proper scales that cope with one gram accurately. One gram of pellets contains 4mg Ivermectin. I’d start with that to monitor for adverse reactions.

          Given that most people with cancers are carrying a high load of various gut parasites it might not be a bad thing to do irrespective of COVID.

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        OldOzzie

        The Future in totalitarian Australia – you will get a Covid Booster but you won’t know which one.

        Experts say Covid booster jabs may not be necessary for most people

        Covid booster vaccinations could be given as part of flu jabs in future — and people may not know what brand they get. For now, experts are divided on the need for boosters.

        As many as four different vaccines could be offered to Australians as boosters, potentially delivered as part of the annual flu jab in the future.

        Federal sources say Australians may not even be told what brand of booster they will be receiving, in the same way the makers of the various flu vaccines administered are not promoted.

        While the vaccine-makers are yet to register with the Therapeutic Goods Administration to provide a booster in Australia, it is understood the federal government is ready to roll out the program quickly if this occurs.

        Britain, the US and Israel are among the countries using booster jabs, although health experts are divided over how useful they are.

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    clarence.t

    “forbidden doctors from prescribing ivermectin.”

    I can’t think of one other case where , once diagnosed positive by a hyper-over-sensitive test, you are supposed to lock yourself in your home, with no treatment whatsoever, until you either get well or have to go into hospital.

    It seems totally unconscionable in a modern society.

    Do we wait for the big red X to be painted on our doors.

    And when are they going to distribute yellow stars to be worn by the “untainted”

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      OldOzzie

      And when are they going to distribute yellow stars to be worn by the “untainted”

      I already asked that question of Gladys in Contact our NSW premier

      and also asked if I would have to wear a sign hung around my neck saying “Unclean”

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      OldOzzie

      Meanwhile with our Australian TGA at work banning something that has been shown to work

      UNIVERSAL VACCINES? NOPE

      Via InstaPundit, a study reported in the Telegraph that finds that for teenage boys, covid vaccines are considerably more dangerous than covid:

      Teenage boys are six times more likely to suffer from heart problems from the vaccine than be hospitalised from Covid-19, a major study has found.

      A team led by Dr Tracy Hoeg at the University of California investigated the rate of cardiac myocarditis – heart inflammation – and chest pain in children aged 12-17 following their second dose of the vaccine.

      They then compared this with the likelihood of children needing hospital treatment owing to Covid-19, at times of low, moderate and high rates of hospitalisation.

      Researchers found that the risk of heart complications for boys aged 12-15 following the vaccine was 162.2 per million, which was the highest out of all the groups they looked at.

      The second highest rate was among boys aged 16-17 (94.0 per million) followed by girls aged 16-17 (13.4 per million) and girls aged 12-15 (13.0 per million).

      Meanwhile, the risk of a healthy boy needing hospital treatment owing to Covid-19 in the next 120 days is 26.7 per million. This means the risk they face from heart complications is 6.1 times higher than that of hospitalisation.

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    Binny Pegler

    This is already showing to be very successful, at it’s intended purpose… Getting Afghanistan off the front page.

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      a+happy+little+debunker

      When defeated by an enemy abroad – attack your own citizens…

      Sun Tzu, The Art of War

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      dinn, rob

      Pfizer nRNA vaccine, how the operation works, in broad terms:
      1. Pfizer has a terrible rap sheet; they adore profits.
      2. The mRNA is not itself spike proteins as Sars2 itself has; instead, the synthetic mRNA tells the patient’s body cells’ RNA to make spike proteins, which of course are alien to the body’s well-being. This stimulates the body’s immune system to fight it off. But these synthetic virus-like spike proteins only last a few days and become debris; however the mRNA vaccine particles are encased in lipid that apparently are timed so that some new signaling comes forth, I think/guess, week by week with instructions to make new spike proteins. These in turn disintegrate. There is no new booster formulation against Delta strain by Pfizer, if it arrives it won’t be till a few months probably from now.
      3. Meanwhile Pfizer and the Biden admin. are not against making more profits though the current experimental vaccine which is perhaps 40% helpful in limiting the virus, while the longterm side effects are unknown and unstudied. But since Afghanistan shows Biden to be very weak as a leader he wants to look strong and divert attention away and counts on mRNA vaccine to keep confusing the world’s population in order to buy time to run some more schemes with either China, the globalists or the dark invisible forces that hate life.
      4. By the way it was DARPA that funded Pfizer and Moderna with $33 million to develop mRNA vaccines in latter 2013. It was in 2013 that Shi Zhengli with Daszak collected many samples from the Mojiang mine,Yunnang province, where 4 miners died of a bat coronavirus transmission, and studies by high-level biochem/virology Chinese knew it was bat-shit to human transmission too, but Shi Zhengli pretended in print that a fungal infection killed them. Of course by that time the Chinese military need for bioweapons was intensifying from top levels including their Defense Minister. -r.

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    Popeye26

    I visited my local GP yesterday and asked for a script for Ivermectin but was REFUSED.
    This was in spite of the information on treatment protocol (from FLCCC Alliance) that I provided to the doctor and numerous other details on the success of treatments with Ivermectin in places such as Uttar Pradesh. See here
    I then heard about the TGA ban later that day.

    This action by the TGA is CRIMINAL and WILL result in many more unnecessary deaths and suffering.

    Why are they doing this?

    I think the answer is MONEY.

    If there were another proven treatment for Covid then ALL approvals for Phase 2 trial vaccinations would need to rescinded and not allowed to be used UNTIL proper trials are completed.

    So, there it is, the drug companies are pulling the strings, aided and abetted by BIG TECH MEDIA as per Jo’s earlier posts on ownership of Google, YouTube etc.

    Very SINISTER!!

    I question why our politicians including Scomo, Gladys etc etc are allowing this – I can only surmise that they have “skin in the game”.

    Don’t believe this could happen – then wake up!!

    Just a small snippet – look up Queensland’s Chief Health Officer Dr Jeannette Young and then see where her husband works.

    Are you awake yet????

    I weep for our once beautiful country Australia and what it has become.

    Cheers

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    David-of-Cooyal-in-Oz

    G’day all,
    From today’s SMH.

       I wonder who “encouraged” the TGA to the attack.  Note that that don’t challenge him about ivermectin.  I guess that would be too big an own goal.
       
       Another version of this story, truncated in this one, says Craig is taking vitamin C, vitamin D and ivermectin(!).  My question: where does he get his ivermectin?  All their readers would love to know.

    I’ve copied the first four paragraphs:
    …..

    The Sydney Morning Herald Digital Edition: Regulator takes MP to court for SMS campaign  :::  Sat 11/9/21

    This article is from the September 11 issue of The Sydney Morning Herald Digital Edition. To subscribe, visit https://www.smh.com.au.
    SPAM TEXTS

    …..
    EXCLUSIVE

    David Crowe

    Chief political correspondent

    Australia’s medical regulator is preparing to take legal action against federal MP Craig Kelly over a text message campaign backed by mining magnate Clive Palmer that could have misled millions of people about coronavirus vaccines.

    Therapeutic Goods Administration head John Skerritt has slammed the texts for spreading ‘‘ incorrect’ ’ information about the vaccines and is taking legal advice on whether the campaign breached criminal law.

    The TGA believes the campaign broke copyright law and criminal law by using the Commonwealth agency’s logo on a political party website that conveyed ‘‘ adverse event notifications’ ’ in a way that tried to discourage people from being vaccinated.

    ‘‘ The TGA is very concerned about any information which provides an incorrect picture of the safety of COVID-19 vaccines, particularly if that information is distributed widely to the public,’’ a spokesman said. ‘‘ The use of the TGA logo in this instance potentially breaches both copyright legislation and the Criminal Code Act 1995.’’
    …..

    Cheers
    Dave B

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      G’day Dave

      this sounds similar to what the TGA tried to pull on Prof Borody with his triple therapy protocol, all they could apparently get him on was promoting a treatment or cure for the Wu Flu

      https://www.ausdoc.com.au/news/tga-closes-investigation-promotion-dr-thomas-borodys-covid19-treatment

      but nec minnit
      https://www.theaustralian.com.au/breaking-news/drug-combo-can-cure-coronavirus-symptoms-gastroenterologist-says/news-story/2a17194b73e2e095877575eb64da174d

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        William Astley

        It does not ‘sound’ similar. It is exactly the same. There was an evil hiding/attempt to stop, a super effective treatment and the public found out and political pressure stop the evil hiding but did not fix the system.

        The Pharmaceutical/Medical Industry controls our medical system and the ‘news’ about medicines/treatments and the Medical Boards that control the allowed treatment.

        The Medical Industry had a very profitable multi billion dollar business going torturing people with a treatment that did not work for Peptic ulcers.

        Every doctor was subscribing anti-acid pills to treat stomach acid problems. There were books about the correct diet to stop the peptic ulcers and mediation to help. There were articles written discussing the stress in jobs the statistics of cases of peptic ulcers vs career.

        The last ‘medical’ treatment for peptic ulcers, to stop the pain, was the cutting of the nerves to the stomach. This stopped the pain but the condition continued and adversely effected basic stomach functions and often led to more surgery. But the bright side for the industry was there were Lots of drugs prescribed and hospital time as the person who had the nerves cut to their stomach, died or suffered chronically untilled they died, with the untreated condition.

        The peptic ulcers were caused by a bacteria in the stomach. A sneaky Australian found the cure to kill the bacteria. Then the entire medical industry spent a decade trying to stop/hide the peptic ulcer drug treatment that worked perfectly (continuing to cut stomach nerves and not treat a a condition that cause pain/complex life changing health effects and death) and fire/charge the sneaky Australian. The scam stopped when 60 minutes interviewed the doctor and he explained the treatment… And then congress threatened to take action …. And finally… the Medical Industry took action. Stopped cutting nerves to stomaches and cured the peptic ulcers.

        This is the ‘new’ evil story. The same pathetic evil, 100% money focussed, Medical Industry is trying to stop Ivermectin use and stop covid treatment optimization.

        “An “almost foolproof” three-pronged treatment for coronavirus symptoms is being rolled out in Victorian nursing homes, according to gastroenterologist Professor Thomas Borody.

        The Centre for Digestive Disease professor said the “triple therapy” involved Ivermectin, Doxycycline and zinc and “cured” at least 15 of his COVID-19 positive patients.

        “Within 48 hours their cough had gone down and fever decreased – their oxygen levels had also significantly improved in that time,” Prof Borody told NCA NewsWire.

        The professor – famous for his development of the triple-therapy cure for peptic ulcers in 1987 – said “a number” of Victorian aged care facilities had this week signed up to start using the therapy, which was Federal Drug Agency and World Health Organisation approved.”

        Comment: There is a second level of evil.

        The chemical Ivermectin is not water soluble. This is unusual and likely one of the reasons Ivermectin is so highly effective biochemical. Unfortunately because Ivermectin is not water soluble it does not disperse evenly in the blood.

        There is a technology that was developed about 7 years ago to improve the dispersion of the small highly effective class of drugs that are not water soluble. This technology enables the drugs in question to be up to 8 times more bioeffective than there simple non-soluble form.

        The Medical Industry has been holding this technology back. Ivermectin will be the of the non water soluble drugs to be used in an optimized form.

        Acompany has developed a super dispersion Ivermectin (and tested to ensure the drug action is not changed) that is 8 times more bio-effective. This technology enables an in blood, active Ivermectin action, which would require a toxic dosage of the standard simple non water soluble Ivermectin.

        If Ivermectin works (and it does based on 55 studies) this not so new technology which has been around for a decade, could enable Ivermectin to end the Covid crisis.

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      Serp

      All I can surmise is that TGA head Skerrit conceives he is personally liable if the multi-billion dollar commercial-in-confidence vaccine contracts are violated by his not having blocked anti-viral treatments; the poor devil must be a nervous wreck keeping abreast of the outbreaks of successful treatment protocols.

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      Chrism

      you can buy sheep drench ivermectin quite cheaply – for sheep

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        Serp

        I’m sure that at agricultural colleges new boys would have been put through the sheep dip course as a group initiation ceremony. Who’d have figures on the fatalities I wonder. I doubt anybody gave a damn back in the day but in the post-modern era of the woke I’m likely to be cancelled for supposing such a possibility, that’s yer thoughtcrime eh.

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        another ian

        No longer as of last week

        And we are supposed to rotate chemicals to help avoid building resistance and they bloody well take out one of not a big list

        Brains. gunpowder, exploding and lifting hats comes tp mind

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      shortie+of+greenbank

      TGA = Thieving Greedy As……

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    a+happy+little+debunker

    In Australia and the US the ruling class are deliberately and systematically creating a 2 tiered structure of discrimination.
    Remember – that ethnic minorities have the least uptake of vaccinations.
    Racism by decree…

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      Klem

      If I’m being discriminated against because I’m not vaccinated, I can scream that I’m a victim of systemic racism. I see subsidies and Affirmative Action jobs coming my way. Wahoo!

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    Can the health minister overrule the TGA?

    Can a doctor prescribe Ivermectin for conditions other than COVID-19?

    There is another freely available drug which does the same thing as HCQ. I just forgot its name. An American doctor is using it for patients.

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      Furiously+Curious

      You’re probably thinking of Quercetin? I got a supply a few weeks ago through Amazon, but have decided to stop taking it and zinc, after a week or so. Quercetin and zinc combination, are supposed to get into the cell and stop viral replication, but there is no virus within hundreds of ks, and I’m over popping pills – Ds, statins (which are supposed to be helpful against covid!), and reflux med. So I figured a week’s flushing might do for now. The Quercetin’s instructions say not to take continuously, so I’ll do it in bursts, and whenever danger is looming.

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        WokeBuster

        I had issues with Quercetin at the recommended levels as well. I switched to Gut Relief from Chemist Warehouse. It’s only 200mg of Quercetin per scoop of the powder and at this level it seems tolerable. Plus they throw in Curcumin (Tumeric) which has also been shown to have benefits against the disease.

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          Serp

          Mango or orange taste! Yuk. We’ve some zinc supplement powder which tastes of strawberry so I’m not trying it a second time. Cod liver oil taste is more my style.

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        Annie

        No sign of a warning not to take quercetin continously on mine, just not to use during pregnancy or breastfeeding (I think I’m a little past that stage of my life, now being a great grandmother!). Dosage they say 3 times daily or as professionally prescribed. I take 1 once pd.

        Atm, I take daily:

        Quercetain (with 600mg quercetin) 1pd
        VitC 1,000mg 2×pd
        VitD 2,000iu 1pd (but repeated a second time in cold dull weather)
        Zn 30mg 1pd
        VitK2 180mcg 1pd

        Also 5mml Olive leaf extract 1pd over winter.

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          OldOzzie

          I have been taking quercetin for over a year and as I was getting blood test every 3 weeks (and have over 20 years of blood test results) always keep a close eye on all blood levels – no problems at all – next blood test tomorrow.

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          shortie+of+greenbank

          the body requires very little vitamin c as part of its normal daily operation. Excess is treated as a dire toxin, so much so it redirects vitamin c to be manufactured into oxalate crystals to be dumped at a later date. This is most probably an evolutionary response since we would gorge on fruit and insulin would be too high to handle dumping this at the time but after time and insulin returning to low levels during the long winters where we would survive on our own body fat and that of other animals we killed then our body would start dumping out the crystals.

          The evidence for low vit c requirements was done on what is now classified as inhumane research done on ‘conscientious objectors’. This research involved some of the participants getting scurvy and either curing it or demonstrating that extended periods of time as a certain dose is protective against scurvy. Now to put this in perspective these were done on a typical very high carb diet and what is important about this is vitamin c and glucose fight over the glut 4 transports (glucose preferred). This means when glucose is high you need more vit c for the same results. Even so the lowest dose above 0mg per day was 10mg per day and no issues with scurvy or any other issue was found during the period of the study.

          This is further backed by usage in history. Napoleon’s campaign in Egypt was bogged with cases of scurvy. To cure this he gave the sick troops fresh horse meat from horses that had recently died in a conflict to see immediate recovery. Now to put this further in context, horse meat is not very high in vit c even compared to other meats. Now if a person wanted a rich source of vitamin c in the past they could consume fresh liver all year long rather than wait for short seasons when fruits nothing like what we had today fruited their often smaller more bitter fruits.

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        RobB

        According to

        https://aapsonline.org/CovidPatientTreatmentGuide.pdf

        A word about quercetin. Some physicians are recommending this supplement to reduce viral illnesses because quercetin acts as a zinc ionophore to improve zinc uptake into cells. It is much less potent than HCQ as a zinc transporter, and it does not reach high concentrations in lung cells that HCQ does. Quercetin may help reduce risk of viral illness if you are basically healthy. But it is not potent enough to replace HCQ for treatment of COVID once you have symptoms, and it does not adequately get into lung tissue unless you take massive doses (3-5 grams a day), which cause significant GI side effects such as diarrhea

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        shortie+of+greenbank

        statins are by their action anti-inflammatory. It does screw with your COQ10 production though so there are negatives in its ‘effectiveness’ against covid. Its effectiveness against improving health expectancy is contra-indicated though outside of this treatment for the pandemic.

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      Annie

      You are maybe thinking of Quercetin. If you can’t get it, red apples, red onions, mangos contain it.
      Bioceuticals do it as Quercetain (Quercetin 600mg, Bromelain 3.6 million PU).

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      Fran

      You might be thinking of fluoxetine also known as Prozac. It seems to be helpful at doses much below the standard ones used for depression.

      See the FLCCC protocol for details.

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      “Can a doctor prescribe Ivermectin for conditions other than COVID-19?”

      yes

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        MichaelinBrisbane

        I’m going to ask my GP for a prescription for Ivermectin as a prophylaxis against anxiety in the face of the WuHu flu threat.

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      Tel

      Can a doctor prescribe Ivermectin for conditions other than COVID-19?

      Go round to the local park, eat some dirt, you very likely have now picked up some parasitic worms.

      Get prescribed for that.

      Astoundingly, those parasitic worms actually make the Ivermectin much safer … incredible I know but if you don’t believe me then check with the TGA.

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    Tilba+Tilba

    Even people who are pro-vaccine are anti-mandatory vaccination.

    That would be me … and while I think it’s reasonable (and sensible) that owners of businesses such as restaurants, pubs, nightclubs, gyms, sports venues, etc to have the right to require customers be vaccinated, forcing big companies to require vaccinated employees is fraught, especially from the federal level rather than the state level.

    Firstly it will become a lawyers picnic, both at the state governor level and the individual employee level, and very hard to enforce and monitor – even if found to be legal.

    Secondly, it is not the best optics for the President, even if the public health advice is telling him that the pandemic will NOT go away with 80 million remaining unvaccinated.

    The other big issue is that in the most conservative red states, governors and other elected officials are actively working against pandemic solutions – against masks, against vaccine passports, against lockdowns and travel restrictions, against vaccine mandates.

    Unbelievably, in Florida the governor has refused to allow the cruise lines to require passengers and crew are vaccinated. It is a huge industry in that state. Of course it’s all about politics, and showing your rightwing colours for either 2022 and 2024.

    Being anti-mask and a vaccine-scoffer proves you’re a big man, a Trumpy, and a Real Murrican. Then you gargle some horse Ivermectin on live TV, just to add some sauce. Would be funny if it weren’t so blatant and dangerous to public health.

    In the face of such stuff, President Biden really did have to act, and I think he’ll get a lot of public support. The people who hate him will continue to do so.

    I agree that an antibody test proving that you have had Covid-19 should be the equivalent of having formal vaccination. But there are medical complications there as well, to do with durability and longevity.

    But it is still a public health emergency that’s far too mired in politics – claims that it is tyranny and a totalitarian takeover are rather exaggerated.

    I wonder what the correlation would be between those who demand control of one’s body and no forced vaccination, and those who support the Texas anti-abortion laws? Hypocritical much?

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    Travis T. Jones

    VP Kamala Harris: “People need to keep their hands off women’s bodies and let women make decisions about their own lives.”

    Source: October Democratic CNN/Times Primary debate, Oct. 15, 2019.

    https://www.ontheissues.org/2020/Kamala_Harris_Abortion.htm

    If I identify as a women as Joe the pervert’s executive order says I can, can I make my own decisions about my body?

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      clarence.t

      Yep, the cognitive dissonance in the whole farce is quite amazing !

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        Forrest Gardener

        I’m not so sure. Cognitive dissonance tends to resolve itself through learning.

        I’ve seen no sign that the powers that be have learned anything about anything. Once again Orwell’s 1984 echoes with the difficulty Winston had with 2 + 2 = 5.

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    Tides of Mudgee

    A strange question. A near neighbour of mine has 6 dogs and at times minds friends’ dogs if they have to go away. Neighbour has recently had her first dose of the clot shot and now two of her friends will no longer leave their dogs with her as a consequence. This upset her very much and she is now fearful for her own dogs. Does anyone out there in Jo-land know if dogs can in any way be affected by humans who’ve had the shot. I imagine like all answers to questions about the shot it’s “no-one knows”. I told her I’d try to find out as she is now worried. ToM

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      Fran

      I get tingling/burning in my hands and feet and headache from the recently vaxed. It occurs for AZ and Pfizer in the first 2-3 days after the vax.

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        Tides of Mudgee

        Thank you Fran. You seem to have remarkable sensitivity to other peoples’ shots. Not to be ignored I would think. Thank you and I’m sorry you are experiencing this. ToM

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        Serp

        Hmm. Incipient Guillain-Barre does that; maybe you’ve a vulnerability which needs further investigation.

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      Forrest Gardener

      Dogs are remarkably sensitive to mood changes in humans. My guess is that they have sensed your neighbour being upset.

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        Tides of Mudgee

        Thank you Forrest. Being a dog person myself I know how terribly aware of their humans feelings they can be. I think my neighbour’s friends are concerned for the health of their dog that is being minded by a vaxxed person. My neighbour hasn’t experienced any behavioural differences in her own dogs, I don’t think. I’ll let her know of all the responses. Thank you ToM

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      Bruce

      Dogs have seriously good noses. Unsurprisingly, disease detection dogs are a real thing. Any nose that can detect “freelance pharmaceuticals” through many layers of plastic and when buried or sealed in a wall, is a nose not to be trifled with.

      The idea behind “medical sniffer dogs” is that they can detect the minute trace chemicals caused by infections. There is even discussion about “cancer-detecting” dogs. We shall see.

      So, given also that many dogs, especially the ones that are not too far from the basic wolf breeding stock, seem to be able to detect the pheromones of “fear / anxiety”, for instance. Do not discount Fido out of hand.

      If you ever get to work with sniffer / tracker dogs, prepare to be amazed.

      But medical dogs are probably now being “canceled” in favour of PCR sleight of hand.

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        Tides of Mudgee

        Thank you Bruce. The little I’ve seen of sniffer dogs the more amazed I am. They are wonderful critters aren’t they? It’s an interesting thought about the detection side of things, but neighbour is concerned that she could be affecting her dogs’ health. Perhaps I should ask Brad Hazzard (I call him Health Hazzard) he’ll know for sure won’t he? (sarc. I hope unnecessarily). I’d seen ages ago the suggestion that with viral shedding associated with the injection it could affect household pets, but I’ve seen nothing recently or in more detail. Thanks again. ToM

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        John F Hultquist

        “If you ever get to work with sniffer / tracker dogs, prepare to be amazed.”

        I raised, trained, and campaigned bird dogs (Brittanys) for many years.
        At this point I don’t think I could be amazed again.
        In the USA, the Vet College at Auburn Univ has a canine performance science program. A couple of years ago I read several of their dog stories.

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        PeterPetrum

        While I was working for Flick in the capacity of Technical Manager I introduced and trained the first termite detection dogs used in Australia. While demonstrating them to a local Council in Sydney we were all amazed by our demo dog indicating in a ceiling around the location of a ceiling joist that had been replaced 18 months previously because of extensive termite damage. There was still sufficient odour in the plasterboard for detection. These dogs are incredible.

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        Annie

        Did anything come of experiments in Dubai using sniffer dogs to detect Covid?

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      Is this for real? How does ones vaccination status affect another person or dog?

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        shortie+of+greenbank

        depends on context. From a legal standpoint when the vaccinations first started rolling out businesses actually forbade vaccinated from attending certain stores since insurance companies actually outright refused to cover negative vaccination outcomes including spike proteins from the vaccinated causing issues with unvaccinated in those shop premises… i.e. those shops were completely liable. This isn’t the fault of the shops but they themselves were protecting themselves from negative outcomes, as impossibly rare as these might be.

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          certain stores

          really? The insurance reason is – there is no mechanism for a vaccinated person to cause issues with unvacced – and no business insurance would therefore be affected. in short BS.

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            clarence.t

            “there is no mechanism for a vaccinated person to cause issues with unvacced”

            There most certainly is.

            twojabs can be carriers without symptoms.. with large viral loads.

            also shedders of the spike protein, that is the cause of most health issues with covid.

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    John Michelmore

    We all will have to consider whom we vote for into the future carefully. Main stream politics is corrupted and no longer represents us. Just yesterday a dear friend had his 23 yr old daughter struck down by myocarditis directly after the Pfizer jab. The heart specialist said to him that this jab needs to be removed from use! Why are we “vaccinating” young adults whom are likely to fight off Covid anyway? Why is there this stupid senseless talk and action about mandated “vaccines” when its is supposed to be the unvaccinated at risk. Only a few politicians are talking any sense at all. We must vote for them and ignore the corrupted main streams!

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      rowingboat

      Sorry to hear that, John. A work colleague, healthy male in his late 20’s suffered a very similar experience two weeks ago. He is shattered.

      In Mandela’s autobiography (diaries) he noted many times throughout his life that legislation (policy) is written to benefit the ruling class, shattering his ideals as a young lawyer. Today mass vaccination benefits the ruling class because they are more at risk of dying from the virus, especially those with a comorbidity or two. It’s also easier to throw young people under a bus (vax 12 year olds) than give up their alcohol addition, self sacrifice and lose a few kilograms.

      The selfishness is no doubt generational as well. Two families we know and close to us, will soon vax their high school kids, including one 12 year old. One parent is a heavy smoker and the other obese, diabetes risk. They are not changing their habits. I pray the kids won’t suffer long term consequences.

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      shortie+of+greenbank

      but if you read the media only about 8 people have died from TTS, one of the rarer ways to die from vaccination, but this must prove that these vaccines are safe right? ummm no, the number of deaths associated with these vaccines runs into the many hundreds that have been recorded so many times more is possible.

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    Simon

    Legislation would be unnecessary if there wasn’t so much vaccine hesitancy spurred on by misleading information on the internet. The studies are clear, the Delta variant will overwhelm any health system when the vaccination rate < 80% of adults.

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      Environment Skeptic

      Let me see if i have it right Simon.

      So are you saying there are new vaccines tested for Delta, Mu, and other virus vintages (OVV’s) ?

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      clarence.t

      So you agree that people’s own rights to become properly informed, should be trampled by uninformed government edicts.

      Why am I not surprised !

      Yes, there is a lot of mal-infomation being spread by government bodies and their lackies.

      Yes, the studies are clear…

      …. Delta will attack the twojabs++ just as efficiently as the untainted.. Israel data proves that.

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      WokeBuster

      Interesting that the Australian Government has ordered 52 million doses of a new non-mRNA vaccine called Novavax and intends using it for booster shots.

      https://www.news.com.au/finance/business/other-industries/novavax-covid-vaccine-better-than-pfizer-coming-to-australia/news-story/4a528e0f6d9e7a0732488bd73412ad8c

      Is the government admitting here through its actions that the mRNA vaxes are not effective and/or dangerous? Why wouldn’t they just stick with the current battery of vaxes given they are so “safe” and “effective”? Would be interesting to do an FOI and see what the story is.

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        RossP

        NZ has done the same Wokebuster. I think the answer to your question is yes. Or alternatively Pfizer has been putting more pressure on them (eg. the Ivermectin situation) and so both Governments are trying to get away from Pfizer by letting their contract “run out”

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          WokeBuster

          Running from Pfizer would be a good thing but we know Big Pharma influence, control and to some degree even fund the regulatory agencies so who knows if pressure will be put on them to slow approval of any competing vaccines.

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          well, that just burst quite a few bubbles

          when l heard novavax was a booster to be used after the other vaxxes the sceptic ear went up but after seeing that video, wow, the salesman is doing a great job

          what idea of a true vaccine l have heard from so many fearful people is destroyed

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        OriginalSteve

        Possibly its a binary system…rom what Ive read so far, its possible they knobble the immune system ( reduce capability by 50% at least ) with the mRNA vaxes, then introduce a bug in the boosters to finish the job.

        12 months from now this country could be a true N W O hellscape….

        “Evil shall slay the wicked,
        And those who hate the righteous will be condemned.”
        ( psalm 34:21)

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      clarence.t

      Enjoy your jabs, Simon.. I dare you to watch and take it in.

      https://sp.rmbl.ws/s8/2/X/-/O/K/X-OKb.caa.1.mp4

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      Yonniestone.

      Please Simon could you and anyone like minded you know get as many covid vaccinations and boosters as possible.

      Our OHS obsessed society has screwed with natural selection and this might correct the gene pools, thanks.

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      Konrad

      The quackzines don’t stop the double jabbed from getting Delta. And when they get infected, they build exactly the same viral load as an unquackzinated person.

      The best defense against Delta is natural immunity. It provides longer lasting broader protection than the Quackzines. Ivermectin is the key to people safely aquiring natural immunity.

      What the TGA is doing is criminal. They are trying to force people into taking the Quackzines which will prevent them from ever aquiring broad immunity from infection.

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      Travis T. Jones

      The studies are clear where this misinformation on the internet comes from.

      If you get your panties in a bunch about delta, just use your “secret weapon” …

      Double masking is our secret weapon against delta

      https://www.smh.com.au/national/double-masking-is-our-secret-weapon-against-delta-20210830-p58nbu.html

      Just wear two masks after your “fully vaccinated” booster shots.
      For ever.
      You know it makes sense.

      This is 97% approved ‘science’ and not mis-information.

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      What in your eyes are false informations ? In my eyes your comments are the worst “informations” at least here in the blog.
      They are false, misleading, not science based… to be continued..

      Btw, you are the last being able to know what is false or not. You don’t read papers, don’t follow nformative links, you do nothing for your information, demonstrate only, your LP has a crack.

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      GD

      The studies are clear, the Delta variant will overwhelm any health system when the vaccination rate < 80% of adults

      Can you provide a link to those studies?

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      Kalm Keith

      Simon,

      There’s something very repetitive in the style of your comments and so I have punched the red.
      Half a century.

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      SimonB

      Post your study mate, then it’ll be clear to everyone. Let us know the hospitalisation rate. Not a computer model, what the NSW services did when Westmead was full. Did they pile people in a gym, or stack them in the disused Sydney auditoriums, or did they disperse them to other Sydney hospitals? Are the retired medical practitioners being rushed in to do house calls on patients? Despot Dan ‘repurposed’ the old Peter Mac Cancer clinic in Melbourne last year during his mismanagement caused 1000 cases a day, when there was no vaccine and it has never been used for covid, because the public hospital system was not overrun. Even if it was, the private hospitals are sitting essentially idle and capable, as are a dozen country hospitals. Right now you are under the misguided belief that delta brings massive waves of death. August 2020 Australian death rate was 3.2%, now with THREE times the cases it’s 1.5%. Many reasons; vaccines part of it, but the crucial element as of September 11th in Australia 82.8% of the 71988 cases are from the 0-59 age group. That age group represents 4.5% of deaths. In the 0-49 age group they comprise 72% of TOTAL Australian cases and the death rate in that age group of cases is 0.04%. That is 22 deaths from 51,000 cases.
      https//www.Covid19data.com.au – data verified daily by government wombles!
      71,988 cases so far concentrated in the 2 most populated states in Australia with one the most highly advanced medical systems in the world with one localised hospital full isn’t reason for being in the foetal position.
      One last VERY important point to counter your hypoventilation, look at the case numbers on the attached website. Pay particular attention to ACTIVE cases in Australia on 9/9/21 and compare to 11/9/21. A REDUCTION of 47%!
      Stop listening to the scaremongering and look at the data, it’s 2021 not 1961, you shouldn’t have to be spoonfed!

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      TedM

      Legislation would be unnecessary if health authorities told the truth about Ivermectin and Hydroxychloroquine.

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        TedM

        And so would the vaccine to boot.

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        William Astley

        That would be the perfect solution. Ivermectin is now available in a modified form (The Ivermectin is packaged in tiny immersion package) which chemically solves the bioaction limitation problem, that Ivermectin the drug/chemical is not water soluble. This change makes Ivermectin 8 times more bio-effective to stop covid. i.e. With a solution to the Ivermectin solubility chemical problem… It is possible to achieve an effective Ivermectin covid killing action in the body that would require a toxic dosage of Ivermectin to achieve.

        Ivermectin optimized should logically/medically be the best solution, to stop the virus from damaging bodies and spreading.

        The vaccines would then be used to provide a second level of protection, however, if Ivermectin optimized stops covid, it might be possible to vaccinate every four or five years, not twice a month.

        The fact that vaccine protection does not last is the bigger problem.

        Joe Biden/CDC has not told the public that they will need to all get vaccinated for covid each and every year. To stop spreading perhaps every 8 months.

        The Logical medical alternative, would be to correct, the general population’s Vit D deficiency. That stops covid without vaccines and Ivermectin optimized would be for backup.

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          shortie+of+greenbank

          vaccine effectiveness is based off numbers above 50%. From the Israeli data at 6 months it is 16% for pfizer, hence you are no longer ‘vaccinated’ much earlier than 8 months or even 6 months.

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    Peter C

    In Australia, appallingly, the TGA has just forbidden doctors from prescribing ivermectin.

    https://www.tga.gov.au/media-release/new-restrictions-prescribing-ivermectin-covid-19

    I was alerted to this by David Maddison in his comment yesterday.

    It is appalling. The (Therapeutic Goods Administration) TGA are faceless bureaucrats but they have very great power.
    I suppose that the Federal health Minister could direct the TGA to act differently but I do not expect anything from Greg Hunt.

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    Brenda Spence

    I’ve ordered some too in case we cant get Ivermectin when the time comes. Quercetin is an ionophore for zinc according to Dr Zelenko so it should do the same job. We have the Borody protocol pills but I’m not sure how long they last.

    Trouble in WA, is that when the borders are opened, the vaxxed will flood in bringing their bugs so no doubt, a few of us will get infected.

    Just found a website in India http://www.ziverdo-kit.com who sells a kit with the Borody protocol at reasonable prices, am trying it out because it uses paypal. ( there is another website with a similar name that could be dodgy).

    Just in case. 😉
    Might need to give it to family and friends!

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    Peter

    Apparently it’s ok to prescribe Ivermectin for scabies.

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    M Allinson

    Public Service Announcement:

    Reminder: If you have Ebola, Meningitis, Conjunctivitis, Strep Throat, Measles, Mumps, Rubella, Diphtheria, Pertussis, Tuberculosis , Hepatitis, Shingles, MRSA, Chicken Pox or a cold/flu/cough,

    Then you may still: travel, go to work, go to a restaurant, go to a gym, go to the bar, go to a mall, go to the grocery store, go to the theatre, and go to a concert.

    That is all. Carry on.

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    Fran

    There comes a point when every totalitarian movement goes too far. Even people who are pro-vaccine are anti-mandatory vaccination.

    This is actually not true to a large extent. People who feel they have been forced to be able to travel, ect, feel that it might all come true if the “hold-outs” are also forced. And, people who have “bought the coolaid” are strongly biased toward authoritarianism.

    See for an interesting talk on the psychology of mass movements
    https://www.bitchute.com/video/RIzxcU8nBYQX/

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      shortie+of+greenbank

      I was at a party on Saturday, rather small gathering, but at it was a retired teacher. Typical brainlet/midwit type. Could only talk in media snippets and gushed about how good Adern is and would broker no negative talking about that moron. I wouldn’t take that sitting down and gave her a piece of my mind on the matter, why gush about a commie dictator in NZ here in OZ ffs.

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    RossP

    These draconian measures by Australia and NZ are going to come home bite a few people, because of a number of reasons, both health and economics.

    The latest from Israel — a report, based on real data, explaining why trying to vilify the unvaccinated has no scientific basis. This is just one of health related reasons that might bite a few politicians. Are GladyB and Hazard waking up and that is why they will not be fronting the media on a daily basis anymore–they are trying to distance themselves?

    https://americasfrontlinedoctors.org/frontlinenews/the-science-and-ethics-regarding-risk-posed-by-non-vaccinated-individuals-position-paper/

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    Kaos55

    Hi I’m a first time poster, long time reader of this good site.

    But seriously, too many people here don’t get it. This is not about big pharma profits, its much bigger than that. People need to join the dots…

    Consider this: There are about 5 powerful bodies, all of which are in unison with their messaging and actions relating to this ‘pandemic’ over the last 2 years. These bodies are:
    – Intergovernmental Organizations (UN, EU, World Economic Forum, IMF, etc.)
    – National governments & supporting bureaucracies
    – Big Tech
    – Main Stream Media
    – Big Pharma

    If this was just about big pharma and profits, don’t you think that at least one of these other bodies I listed would have pushed back against big pharma? Don’t you think that with all their intelligence and capabilities they could easily see the evidence that we can see here and elsewhere? How could they miss the contradictions, the lies, the anti-scientific decisions, the outright dangerous actions?

    Obviously, they are not ignorant of these facts. Do you think the TGA doesn’t know about the massive benefits that Ivermectin, HDQ, etc. could bring? Do you think they don’t know that with nation-wide treatment protocols that there would not be any need for lockdowns? Why have all these bodies acted ruthlessly to shut down any dissent and any questioning of the narrative?

    Think people. What is this telling you?
    – 2 weeks to flatten the curve, but not masks
    – Lockdown longer, only masks indoors
    – More lockdowns, more restricted movements and masks everywhere
    – No treatments allowed
    – Vaccine coming, encourage one shot and you are good and we will be free
    – Second shot required, then third, then fourth…
    – No vaccine passports, no mandates
    – Vaccine mandates and vaccine passports are mandatory

    This is about control, suppression , and I’m afraid a lot worse than that….

    Wake up people…

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    Serge Wright

    There is no doubt that the far left Democrats have sniffed the opportunity provided by COVID and their rigged election win and have gone way too far. Aside from the vaccine mandates, they have set their sights on a money printing / handout exercise that will effectively kick start hyper inflation and kill the economy and at the same time they seek to kill local energy production and drive racist and divisive apartheid policy, including on innocent school kids. I think that the scenes in the NFL where the national anthmem was replaced by a new “black anthem” could be a last straw moment for the silent conservative majority. The USA has always been about inclusion and freedom and many people have died to defend and protect that freedom. Refugees from all parts of the globe have sought refuge in the USA and in the other allied former colonial states such as Canada, NZ and here in Australia, because this is where freedom from persecution was guaranteed. Colonialism provided that freedom because it spread the cultural Christian liberal democratic values that are the bedrock. The far left seek to destroy the fabric of western society and replace peace, prosperity, freedom and hope with hate, poverty, censorship and despair. I sense a blow back is starting and will gather steam. Trump is looking stronger every day and Biden’s mental decline is only a door away from the nursing home. The biggest risk now is China launching an attack whilst the USA is completely devoid of leadership and that risk is very high.

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      Forrest Gardener

      Why would China launch an attack?

      They are far more likely to get the USA to surrender without a shot being fired.

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        RossP

        An attack on Taiwan will be first. Taking back Taiwan has been on Xi’s agenda for a long time.

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        Serge Wright

        China has been massively increasing it’s military & naval capacity over the past two decades and they make no secret of wanting to take control of Taiwan and the South China Sea. Their first act of aggression would be Taiwan, which would be a litmus test of the US’s eagerness to engage or otherwise. If they act within the current Biden term of office it is unlikely that the US would engage in a counter military response, simply because a geriatric president or completely inept VP would be clueless to lead such as counter response. Basically the door is open to China for the next 3.5 years until Trump or DeSantos might possibly take back control in 2024. For the next 12 months China will probably be managing the delta variant as it will likely spread during their winter and occupy their time, but I expect a resurgence in aggression soon afterwards.

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          Forrest Gardener

          Your facts are correct but I wonder what China learned from Hong Kong.

          Far better for your enemy to concede without a shot fired.

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            OldOzzie

            The West did nothing

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              Bruce

              Hong Kong was on a 99-year “lease” / concession.

              It is also partly on the same slab of land as China.

              I was there in the early 20-noughties. By that stage, the multi-lingual voice messages on teh slick trains were in Cantonese (of course), English and Mandarin, the language of Political China. Subtle as a train smash.

              Taiwan was NEVER part of ethnic Han China, as a quick glance over the cultural backgrounds of the actual Taiwanese natives will clearly show, Before the Maoists laid claim to it, The forces of Imperial Japan had well and truly left their mark. The Kuomintang escape from Maoism was just another “day in the office” for Taiwan.

              China basically wants the Island as a strategic fortress to threaten the sea-lanes running in and out of japan and South Korea.They also want the technological might of Taiwan.

              Will Taiwan just roll over and die?

              Do they have the Nukes they developed in association with the old South African regime and Israel?

              One way to find out.

              In the meantime, China will steadily subvert and neutralize any country that even vaguely looks like it might be an impediment to the investment of Taiwan.

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          RickWill

          Their first act of aggression would be Taiwan, which would be a litmus test of the US’s eagerness to engage or otherwise.

          Internationally, Taiwan has been a Chinese province since 1971. Biden has condemn Trump’s support for Taiwan and has endorsed the previous One-China policy that Obama also supported.

          It is simply a matter of time before the CCP take full control of their province.

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    TdeF

    If you think the Americans are against gun control and taxpayer funded abortion, wait until you see the response on forced vaccinations. As the major bastion of free choice in the world, this will be the end of the Biden administration. As in Australia, the US is a Federation which ceded many rights to the Federation. And while Washington like Canberra insists that they are in control of everything from energy to health to policing, they are not.

    The recall of Gavin Newsom is only the start of the fightback against Democrats for a socialist/communist America. And in all this you have the anti democracy ultra rich of the internet and Hollywood who dictate how everyone else/the plebs should live but are above the law themselves.

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      TdeF

      And the timing and total insensitivity of Biden’s White House on Afghanistan and forced vaccinations and rapid inflation will ensure Newsom is recalled in 4 days. The lawlessness of Democrat controlled cities like Chicago and Portland has to end. Most of the unvaccinated on whom Biden has declared war are non whites. The mid terms are coming and the black communities are being made to face the consequences of voting for the party of segregation because every move, gun control, taxpayer funded abortion and vaccination are moves against the inner city black community. It was the black businesses in black areas which were burned down in the BLM riots.

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        TdeF

        And the open borders policy hits the black and Latino communities hardest. The Mexicans and Cubans did not flee to America just to have all the criminals follow them. The result of the twenty year Afghan war is now that America has suddenly imported 45,000 unvetted, unvaccinated and potentially extremist Afghanis, if the ‘squad’ is any example of ungrateful refugees. Just what Biden and Pelosi wanted. And against every reason America and Australia and so many countries fought in Afghanistan. Open borders is designed to undermine and destroy Christian democracy in America and Biden insists he is a devout Catholic. When did he ever tell the truth? But the press say nothing.

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          TdeF

          Donald Trump wanted a strategic withdrawal with honor and preserving their achievements. It was time to go home. The military would have executed a classic strategic withdrawal.

          But Biden himself stepped in for the personal publicity, overrode every bit of planning and created a total rout by executive order, undoing all the work of two decades and making the 2400 American lives lost seem utterly wasted. This is now comparable to the 2606 lives lost in the World Trade Center and suddenly everyone is asking, why? Especially America’s allies who lost lives too.

          Utter thoughtless power mad incompetence like this has been not seen since the days of Hitler who wrecked every strategic plan by the experts. And then Biden had the nerve to blame Donald Trump. He might be a puppet, even a Manchurian candidate, an unpredictable angry geriatric with nothing to lose, but Joe Biden is still President and has the power to do immense damage to everyone.

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            Serp

            Understanding that Biden is firmly in place and Australia close to collapsing into anarchy I’ve begun to read The Gulag Archipelago as mental preparation for this seeming End Of Times which is upon us.

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              Fast Bowler

              A great primer from a great writer. Should be compulsory reading for high school and 1st year uni while ejecting gender studies and all the other leftist BS.

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        Serge Wright

        You have to love Larry Elder. I’ve been watching him on Tucker during the year and he is a real leader for the conservative movement and totally rejects the divisive race politics of the left. He is the one person that can help heal the country. The best part of all is that he is black and nothing better highlights the hypocrisy of the left than their disdain for him, including the recent incident of a white woman wearing a gorilla mask, tossing eggs at Larry and not a word uttered by BLM, the Democrats or progressive media.

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      Forrest Gardener

      The trick for the powers that be in Israel (and any wannabe authoritarian states) will be finding evidence that the endless succession of injections actually provides protection for individuals or reduces transmission.

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    Kalm Keith

    “HORROR event saw a man’s brain leak for nine months after taking a nasal swab test for COVID-19, according to experts who analysed a CT scan”.

    Today’s news headline.

    The possibility of causing brain damage through this act are well known.

    How is it that government authorities allowed this to happen while ignoring basic neuroanatomy.

    This is not about our health.

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    Hypersonic

    Chlorine dioxide works apparently however you will need to he very careful with doses as it will kill you unlike ivermectin.

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      Serp

      With what? As with the AIDS virus, there will necessarily be a suite of agents deployed which work in cooperation as a team of burglars does.

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    Philip

    Personally I don’t care about the vaccine passport for bars, restaurants, events etc., because I’m unvaxxed so I don’t want to go to them anyway, to avoid the virus. I’m busily identifying all my exposure risk points at the moment.

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      clarence.t

      Since I live in a country town with only an IGA, and there I things I like from Coles.. I decided to check online deliveries.

      Found that its cheaper to get delivery than to drive the V8 to nearest Coles 🙂

      IGA has most basics, but Coles delivery means that basically everything I need, I can get online or very locally.

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        Philip

        yeah. Online is a bit of pain in the backside though. The interface of the computer makes it very hard to discern between products. For instance, I never realised how many varieties of spaghetti there were, and I’d get the wrong one. I found it a hassle and ditched it. Perhaps they’ve improved it since I did it, about 2 years ago. And watch for the delivery guy and teh snotty nosed kids in shop who get your products off the shelves. Theyre possibly dropping covid all over the stuff. Im spraying any package I get from online shopping with Glen20 before I touch it.

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      OldOzzie

      Sitting on Son’s Beachfront Balcony in Manly this morning, sipping Coffee and break from home (Son & Family escaped Sydney before lockdown) – really busy, loads of people out surfing, cycling, walking – only 5%,masked (including 3 Police walking along Beachfront), 95% not masked.

      Totally parked out and traffic at standstill on Steyne.

      Back to Local Seaforth, stopping to buy chicken & chips (best chicken salt ever) – I hung mask off ear till in shop, but everyone else had a mask on – beautiful sunny day – go figure, and local restaurants were doing good business in takeaways.

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        SimonB

        And yet only Tony Abbott dobbed in and fined for being unmasked? Someone has an agenda! Australians all let us rejoice, for we dob on each other with glee! What a wonderful country we’ve allowed our state demigods to destroy in the name of Health and safety, whether ‘Conservative Sydney’ or Marxist Melbourne! If only this continent had a Federal leadership group rather than 8 TERRORtories!

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      OldOzzie

      What a Lousy Country Australia has become

      Tony Abbott lashes “dobber” after copping mask fine

      Tony Abbott has lashed out at the culture of “dobbing” after copping a $500 fine for breaching Covid regulations.

      Mr Abbott told reporters on Saturday that he would not challenge the penalty because he did not want to waste police resources.

      But the former prime minister is not impressed with whoever snitched on him.

      Mr Abbott was slapped with the fine by police after pictures emerged of the former member for Warringah not wearing a mask at Sydney’s Manly beach earlier in the week.

      Police said Mr Abbott failed to comply with directions to wear a face covering at Fairy Bower on Wednesday morning.

      Speaking to reporters on Saturday, Mr Abbott defended his actions.

      “I just want to say two things. First, I believe that I was well within the law, reasonably interpreted,” he said.

      “But I am not going to challenge the fine because I am not going to waste police time.

      “Second, I never thought dobbing and snitching was part of the Australian character.

      “I think as soon as we can leave this health police state mindset behind us, the better for everyone.”

      According to the NSW public health order, all residents are required to wear a mask while outdoors unless engaging in physical exercise.

      The picture captured Mr Abbott in jeans and a jumper chatting with a friend.

      NSW Health Minister Brad Hazzard showed little sympathy when asked about the incident.

      “It does not matter who you are, whatever station you have in life, there are orders,” Mr Hazzard said.

      “Nobody likes to have these orders but it is to keep everybody safe and I hope people will comply with the orders.”

      Brad Hazzard Totally encapsulates why the Liberal Party needs to be destroyed.

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    RickWill

    We train doctors for six years

    That is misinformed; certainly for Australia. A prescribing physician in an Australia hospital never stops formal training/learning/assessment. It takes at least 6 years after a degree course to gain fellowship to the College of Physicians:

    Learning assessment for a fellowship of the Royal Australasian College of Physicians is ongoing and involves regular feedback exercises and meetings with supervisors. To be eligible for fellowship, trainees need to complete three years of basic training and to pass written and clinical examinations. Basic training involves broad-based training in internal medicine disciplines as well as options to undertake internal and non internal medicine rotations. Advanced training involves a further three years in-depth training in a chosen field and ongoing assessment. Fellowship can be awarded once final written and clinical examinations have been passed.[127]s

    Even GPs in Australia must complete a minimum of three years in training and assessment before practising unsupervised.

    Training is provided in accredited medical practices in urban and rural areas, in hospitals and in specialised medical areas over a period of three years full time for metropolitan registrars and four years for rural and remote registrars.[97]

    All registrars must complete some training in rural and remote areas – at least six months for those enrolled in the general pathways and 18 months for those in the rural pathway. Registrars training in the state capital cities and Canberra are also required to spend six months in an accredited training practice in an outer metropolitan area placement.[98]

    Assessments of trainees are undertaken by regional training providers throughout their training period, but the award of fellowship is dependent on passing final clinical and written RACGP examinations.

    Taking the GP path is the easiest path but, even then, they will be at least in their late 20s before becoming a fellow of the RACGP.

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      Fast Bowler

      Not every GP is a RACGP member.

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      shortie+of+greenbank

      they offer advice on nutrition where the information they are supplied with are a) wrong and b) about the size of a children’s exercise book. Metabolic diseases are treatable by nutritional intervention yet they duly prescribe pills, often for durations clearly outside of the testing for said drugs. PPIs are a good example, testing indicates prescription for only a couple of weeks yet doctors will prescribe for years in clear breach of the recommended usage.

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    RickWill

    It is stupid of Biden to try to introduce mandatory vaccination. It is a waste of time and angst. Only 1% of the unvaccinated will die. The other 99% will acquire natural immunity. A few like Phil Valentine will become pro-vaxx before they pass away.
    https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/phil-valentine-radio-host-who-regretted-vaccine-skepticism-dies-covid-n1277395

    The States like California that have a reasonable vaccine uptake are already hitting herd immunity:
    https://91-divoc.com/pages/covid-visualization/?chart=states-normalized&highlight=California&show=10&y=both&scale=linear&data=cases-daily-7&data-source=jhu&xaxis=right#states-normalized
    And death rates in these states are now low:
    https://91-divoc.com/pages/covid-visualization/?chart=states-normalized&highlight=California&show=10&y=both&scale=linear&data=deaths-daily-7&data-source=jhu&xaxis=right#states-normalized

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      RickWill

      Deathbed vaccine regret is becoming common in the USA:
      https://theweek.com/delta-variant/1004012/covid-vaccine-regrets

      The most recent surge of COVID in the United States has bred a new type of narrative — call it the “vaccination regrets” genre. These stories feature people who didn’t get the vaccine, were often aggressive in mocking those who chose to get their shots, then came to regret their choices as they got sicker and sicker, and then died. You probably recognize some of the names and stories. Phil Valentine, the conservative Nashville talk show host, died this weekend after once recording a Beatles parody called “Vaxman.” Scott Apley, a Texas Republican, died earlier this month after calling a vaccine-promoting health official “an absolute enemy of a free people.” There has been and will be more of this kind of coverage. Much of it is laden with schadenfreude, a just barely hidden sense of glee. There is something ugly about it all.

      I will be surprised and disappointed if this occurs in Australia. Vaccination rates are showing no sign of slowing. The rate has only been constrained by supply and now the ability to find trained people to effect the jab. Australia’s level of vaccination is on a trajectory to soar past USA and UK:
      https://ourworldindata.org/grapher/covid-vaccination-doses-per-capita?country=AUS~GBR~USA

      Vaccination passports in Australia are likely but not necessary. Most unvaccinated people will want to prove they made the right choice by avoiding crowds. I am likely 99% bullet-proof but I will not be seeking out crowds until case numbers are next to nothing.

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        Hypersonic

        Just think how many people regret getting the vaxx on their death bed as they die of clots to the heart, unfortunately we will never know because your prefered authority figure in this case the week.com don’t believe you have the mental capacity to understand it so it would be scrubbed from the inter net in order to protect your feeble mind

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        OldOzzie

        72% of Blacks in NYC have not taken the jab.

        Biden threatened their jobs; their means to pay bills, for food, clothing, and shelter, for compliance.

        And those same 72% of Blacks, plus the other 18% who did get the vaccine, would vote for Biden tomorrow if there was an election.

        Says it all really!

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          Raving

          Even if the 72% figure is slightly flakey it’s quite amazing. Blows me away to see Biden targeting that constituency

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            Mark+Allinson

            “Blows me away to see Biden targeting that constituency”

            Why?

            The KKK was an arm of the Democrat Party, and with “Planned Parenthood” they have kept the Black population numbers low through abortion.

            The apparent regard of the party for blacks is in fact a reaction formation to hide their deep racism.

            This vaccine mandate gives them perfect cover to outlaw Blacks from polite society.

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              Raving

              1. The freedom to choose and the freedom to use law to limit the frredom to choose

              2. That such a high proportion of Blacks are unnvaccinated

              3. That Biden’s decree might actually help by forcing Blackw to do what ghey don’t want to do

              It really is “wow” on many levels and regardless of which side of the debate

              (Yes, I knoow a bit about Democratic party history. Biden’s decree is even confusingly ‘wow’ there)

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              Tel

              Based on what you are saying, it’s almost like the US Civil War never ended, it shifted underground instead.

              The vaccine mandates could equally well be a device to purge the doubters and the disloyal out of the military and out of the civil service. They are already imposing ideological tests and this would be a logical extenstion.

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          Serp

          Where’s the other ten percent? Here’s the quote

          And those same 72% of Blacks, plus the other 18% who did get the vaccine, would vote for Biden tomorrow if there was an election.

          Arithmetic is become just another spelling thing; do it your own way “bruh/brutha”. Phew

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            shortie+of+greenbank

            these types of ‘studies’ are simply questionnaires. Someone will ask a sample size the question, in this case about vaccination status and consistent with past vaccination questionnaires in years past about 10% refuse to answer.

            Usually the CDC would just remove the 10% to inflate vaccination rates.

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            paulcourtney

            Mr.Serp: You appear to be correct on the math, but you don’t understand 21st cent. American elections. The 10% is held in reserve until “election” “officials” in our great urban centers determine in which state they are needed most. Then they are delivered in suitcases (dems found those suitcases with the wheel thingies were needed when these extra votes got so heavy!).

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    RickWill

    Your Body, My Choice, says Biden

    As far as this headline is concerned, I consider what Texas has just legislated is far more evil:
    https://19thnews.org/2021/09/texas-new-abortion-law-what-you-need-know/

    Texas’ law effectively banning abortions after six weeks of pregnancy took effect at midnight September 1.

    The law empowers private citizens to sue anyone they believe may have “aided or abetted” someone getting an abortion after six weeks of pregnancy. In a successful lawsuit, the plaintiff would receive at least $10,000 and be reimbursed for legal fees. Within Texas, if someone sues an abortion provider or someone who supported an abortion patient and loses, there are no consequences built into the law for the defendants to recover costs to defend themselves, Marc Hearron, lead attorney for Center for Reproductive Rights, told reporters on Wednesday.

    So every medical practitioner as well as anyone potentially aiding in Texas is now exposed to the risk of any citizen maliciously claiming they assisted with an abortion. The accused has no rights to recover costs involved in malicious cases.

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      Hypersonic

      It’s far more evil to ban the killing of a life than mandate innoculation that has potential to kill. What a twisted mind you uave

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        RickWill

        The law will drive medical practitioners from Texas. Their health care will deteriorate. That is the evil.

        And why should woman not have the right to choose what happens with their body? US spent a decade in Afghanistan fighting for women’s rights. Now Texas is telling women they no longer have a choice in what happens with their body.

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        Hypersonic

        I am not arguing the rights of abortion but your poor analogy shows how sick your mind is.

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      Forrest Gardener

      You could write a book about the Texas legislation but you need more information.

      First does the law create make it a crime to abort after 6 weeks? If so it is a police job to enforce. If the police do not enforce then a private citizen should most definitely be able to prosecute the crime. That is the case in Australia.

      Second is that in Australia costs follow the outcome (sort of) but that is for civil matters. Which takes us back to the question of whether the law creates a crime or a civil cause of action. It is very rare for costs to be awarded to a successful criminal defendant in Australia except for malicious prosecution.

      And the accepted moral standard is that abortions should be safe, legal and rare. I support that standard.

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    V.

    The TGA has now BANNED ivermectin as a treatment for COVID.

    “These changes have been introduced because of concerns with the prescribing of oral ivermectin for the claimed prevention or treatment of COVID-19. Ivermectin is not approved for use in COVID-19 in Australia or in other developed countries, and its use by the general public for COVID-19 is currently strongly discouraged by the National COVID Clinical Evidence Taskforce, the World Health Organisation and the US Food and Drug Administration.”

    Firstly, there are a number of significant public health risks associated with taking ivermectin in an attempt to prevent COVID-19 infection rather than getting vaccinated. Individuals who believe that they are protected from infection by taking ivermectin may choose not to get tested or to seek medical care if they experience symptoms. Doing so has the potential to spread the risk of COVID-19 infection throughout the community.

    Secondly, the doses of ivermectin that are being advocated for use in unreliable social media posts and other sources for COVID-19 are significantly higher than those approved and found safe for scabies or parasite treatment. These higher doses can be associated with serious adverse effects, including severe nausea, vomiting, dizziness, neurological effects such as dizziness, seizures and coma.

    Finally, there has been a 3-4-fold increased dispensing of ivermectin prescriptions in recent months, leading to national and local shortages for those who need the medicine for scabies and parasite infections. It is believed that this is due to recent prescribing and dispensing for unapproved uses, such as COVID-19. Such shortages can disproportionately impact vulnerable people, including those in Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander communities.”

    https://www.tga.gov.au/media-release/new-restrictions-prescribing-ivermectin-covid-19

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    RickWill

    This is the NSW data for ICUs over the last week:
    11 Sep 21 221 36 16%
    10 Sep 21 207 36 17%
    09 Sep 21 201 36 18%
    08 Sep 21 191 36 19%
    07 Sep 21 189 36 19%
    06 Sep 21 173 36 21%
    05 Sep 21 172 36 21%

    This is today’s vaccination data for 16+
    First Jab 77.3% – Fully Vaccinated 44.5%

    Today 221 in ICU, 36 vaccinated and 185 unvaccinated. The 185 come from 1/4 of the population so that translates to 555 for the other 3/4 now vaccinated if the vaccinations provided no benefit. However 36/555 is only 6.4%. That means the vaccines are proving to be 93.6% effective in avoiding serious illness and improved significantly over the week.

    In Victoria, the vaccinations continue to be 100% effective in reducing serious illness with 33 in ICU and none of those vaccinated.

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      Peter C

      Only Vic and NSW show the vaccination status of patients in ICU. Vic claims no vaccinated patients in ICU.
      https://covidlive.com.au/report/daily-icu/nsw

      Strangely the number of vaccinated patients in NSW ICUs has remained constant over the last 8 days at 36. Since the numbers of vaccinated patients in ICU had been climbing steadily before that I am beginning to doubt the figures.

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        Raving

        Patients with covid can stay in the ICU for weeks. It’s a big problem

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          Broadie

          Yup!

          Patients with covid can stay in the ICU for weeks. It’s a big problem

          The process of leaving this world is crap. People often leave this world with chests full of a mixture of bugs. That is why prior to 2020 they would put ‘pneumonia and influenza’ on the death certificate or record it on admission. Nurses I have spoken to suggest this as one of the more gentle ways to leave the world.
          In a Western World where the extended family has exploded and supply chains are remote, most of our population are ignorant of the dying process whether it be the rooster or Grand Pa. This fear of the unknown is the major ingredient of the current scare.

          There is a serious subject we are facing with the euthanasia debate. Should there be a right to die or should our families and health professionals have any decisions they make subjected to the threat of a beady-eyed ambulance chaser sniffing out an aggrieved relative left out of the will? Or should someone’s chance at life be cut short by the potential beneficiary of their demise?

          So death is crap by any measure and no process is perfect except in Logan’s Run maybe.

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      Hypersonic

      Rick, when did they get their second dose as 3 months after this date they don’t have much protection left so let’s see the numbers by say Xmas shall we.

      BTW 13 people who work for me got the jab

      1, has to take time off work to go to specialists to work out why they are deaf in one ear
      1, lost all feeling in their left arm and leg after both shots
      3, suffered from stomach and chest pain after both shots
      6 had on average 4 days off work
      3 had no symptoms at all
      2 refuse to get the shot

      What happens to the vaxxed when they get the booster? Myocarditis? Pericarditis? Paralysis?

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        RickWill

        I make it 14 who got the jab! At least 11 of them had a resp[onse so has at least tickled their immune system.

        Will be interesting to see how the unvaccinated pair end up. They will have increasing exposure to Covid for a few months after mobility increases.

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        Hypersonic

        One has a cow heart valve put in and the other dreams one day of having children and the more they push the more I will say no.

        Since when is deafness, loss of feeling in limbs chest pain from Myo or pericarditis a tickle to the immune system?

        I often wonder if people like you actualy have a skewed view on reality or are you not quite all their in the head.

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      Fast Bowler

      Please define unvaccinated. Is it like 1 dose only or within 2 weeks of 2nd dose. Please provide useful data.

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      Rick Will it is inconceivable how you ignore the about 40 percent MONTHLY loss of antibodies, as well as the considerable upfront adverse events. Clearly even from the get the vaccine are only partially effective against Delta. And only a perverse agenda would deny the overwhelming effectiveness of the available anti virals.

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      Broadie

      Here Rickwill is a baseline you can work from. %100 un-vaccinated and the population not Locked down while old people were dying in the Victorian Nursing homes.

      11 Sep 20 6 0 0%
      10 Sep 20 6 0 0%
      09 Sep 20 6 0 0%
      08 Sep 20 7 0 0%
      07 Sep 20 7 0 0%
      06 Sep 20 7 0 0%
      05 Sep 20 6 0 0%

      So these admissions were from a %100 percent un – ‘clot shot’ population when the pandemic season was raging. Let us call this a good example of a control group where the natural immunity was able to give broad protection to the healthy members of the community and they were able to advocate for their elderly and infirm.

      Now compare that to this pandemic season, what is the major change from our control last year? It will be even more interesting when we look at what is happening in Israel & Iceland where the broad natural immunity to these kinds of virus may have been overwhelmed by the evolving virus adapting to the leaky ‘vaccines’.

      So what has been the major change since 2020. Could be the Clot shot or the totalitarian measures inflicted on NSW people.

      PS: A source for your figures and definitions of vaccinated, with Covid etc would be helpful?

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      shortie+of+greenbank

      you do know that ‘vaccinated’ is a term used in these numbers associated with at least 2 weeks after the second jab. You get sick or die any stage before that is counted as an unvaccinated case. This may include sick before vaccinated status but hospitalised afterwards.

      According to US data dying FROM the vaccine is counted as a covid death. The first 250 deaths reported to the VAERS system only 4% had a positive PCR result, all 250 died from reactions consistent with vaccination and all 250 were recorded as covid deaths.

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    Simon+B

    There’s an interesting dilemma brewing for Xi Biden as he mandates the medical treatment of his subjects to be compliant citizens under the Dementiacrat Marxist regime!
    The limited efficacy of these vaccines and need for boosters, means he’ll have to keep his boot on the throat of the unruly masses to keep lining up every 6 months until HE says the US is a safe haven, allowed limited freedoms to produce the taxes to fund his $1.3 trillion spending spree. That’ll be an interesting exercise in how well the propaganda machine will work!
    Then there’s the inevitable issue of how well he trusts the Chinese to ‘advise’ him that they too are completely safely vaccinated to allow the unfettered travel between the two nations which he pilliored the ‘Xenophobic’ Trump for being one of the first nations to close borders; as a political stunt, mind you, not as a protective measure that the fatherly figure Dementia Joe is doing!
    Good luck democracy, you’re going to need it in the next decade with this lunacy brought to you by US Dementiacrats, EU, UN, WHO, CCP, WEF with climate change passports to follow vaccine passports as the previous free West becomes the compliant drones who have nothing, but are happy for our ‘betters’ to run everything for us…….for a price, of course!

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      Hypersonic

      No one will ever “return to normal” the new world order are about to go all in. World leaders have been told to get min 70% vaxxed.

      Then the boosters roll in to fight off the next new variant they unleash.

      Some will resist of course but Glady gulag and Danistan are showing the world how it is done. Biden will have a fight on his hands but scomo will get an easy run because we are too stupid to see what is going on.

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        PeterS

        The WEF has already decided that we can’t go back to the way we were. Since all Western nations have adopted their plan then we can expect policies across all major parties to follow the WEF’s Great Reset agenda to the full. That not only means reduce our emissions to zero ASAP and vaccinate everyone, it also means a wide range of other even more sinister tasks, such as, digital inclusion, diet regulation, strategic intelligence to control what information people are allowed to receive, and much more. They are trying to build a brave new world, which is nothing new as in the past people dreamt of similar changes but in more discrete ways. Now it’s a combination of Volksgeist, Weltgeist, Zeitgeist, etc. all rolled into one with the added feature that technology has finally caught up and is making much of this possible. I’m not looking forward to it but a lot of people are.

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    Forrest Gardener

    Rick first you say that 36 in ICU were vaccinated. Later you say that 33 in ICU and none of these vaccinated. That doesn’t seem to fit together.

    But overall the vaccinated have nothing to fear from the unvaccinated? Did I get that right?

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      RickWill

      Two states, two stories. Read what I wrote. NSW 93.6% vaccine effectiveness, Victoria 100% vaccine effectiveness.

      Correct – vaccinated have nothing to fear from unvaccinated other than the staff in hospitals who eventually have to treat the 10% or so of unvaccinated people who end up in hospital. The public health authorities fear the workload that the unvaccinated will create. Once the country starts opening up, the risk of Covid exposure will rise.

      Current modelling indicated NSW will reach 8,000 cases per day when they open. What remains to be seen is how many end up in hospital and the workload that creates.

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        Fast Bowler

        Oh deary me, all we can talk about is the problem of the unvaccinated (whatever that means, is it none, 1 dose or 2 weeks from the 2nd dose) when we can see all around the world that it is the vaccinated that seem to be creating the problems in hospitals a la Isreal.

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          SimonB

          That’s because the vaccines were essentially touted as a magic bullet from Feb 2020. Reality had to eventually dawn on the locked down that any vaccine has an effective lifespan and will, at best, only mitigate the severity and longevity of infection and boosters will be necessary.
          The massive issue for a democracy is these state demigods who saw a covid free 20/21 summer and patted themselves on the back for ‘curing’ the problem!
          Of course in typical political and bureaucratic arrogance they announce they’ll get it back to zero, no matter how many businesses they have to destroy, no matter how many uneducated kids will be given a pass for a non school year, no matter how many citizens they’ll turn against each other, THEY WILL NOT BE WRONG!
          Now it’s vaccinated Oppressors against unvaccinated or recovered covid sufferer oppressed in the 2 tier Australia we have sat by and allowed to become the ‘covid normal Australia’!The
          10 minute trained fluoro vested marshalls forced to be employed by struggling businesses to view a potential patrons health records to decide if they are suitable candidates for a latte!
          Not so bad when you think of it like that, is it? Snooze on Australia, democracy was overrated!

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        Tel

        The modelling has never been right so far. They predicted huge number of cases last year and that was even with strict lockdowns, and in NSW at least the lockdowns were much milder in 2020.

        Very unlikely to be right this time either.

        Funny how many times such people can fail … then ignore their past failures and plug onwards. I guess the saying is “never give up” but that was not intended to apply to people who are unable to learn, and then keep doing the same thing over and over.

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        Forrest Gardener

        Thanks for clarifying but the two sets of numbers provide contradictory pictures.

        And good luck with your idea that the injected have full immunization from the virus. The only source I have seen for that idea is the propaganda on tv advertisements. It is dead wrong.

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        SimonB

        What percentage of your projected 8000 cases a day in an 80% vaccinated open NSW will be vaccinated?

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    Hypersonic

    The battle lines are being drawn in the US, at least 20 states have rejected Biden’s vaccine mandate Biden’s response “have at it”.

    Next he airs a prerecorded message for 9/11 where he lambast Americans for violence against Muslim who are followers of a peaceful religion. This will not end well

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    Hypersonic

    The battle lines are being drawn in the US, at least 20 states have rejected Biden’s vaccine mandate Biden’s response “have at it”.

    Next he airs a prerecorded message for 9/11 where he lambast Americans for violence against moose limbs (edited) who are followers of a peaceful religion. This will not end well

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    Hypersonic

    https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-09-11/police-crowdfund-legal-challenge-to-covid-19-vaccine-mandate/100454368

    And so it begins the time is fast approaching where each and everyone of us will have to choose a side,my advise choose carefully

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      PeterS

      I agree but for some of us here it’s abundantly clear the decision was made a long time ago, one way or the other. The rest are still to decide.

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      PeterS

      Further to that, the police will also have to make a choice one day, either keep siding with the government or side with the people. They can’t keep serving opposing sides, and it’s rapidly reaching a stage where that choice must be made to settle how we end up as a nation. Will we end up like the way we were when freedoms were the norm, or do we end up as some sort of tyranny where “show me papers” will be the least of our concerns?

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    clarence.t

    Could anyone who has been vaccinated and has a dog…

    …. just for interest sake, keep an eye on your dog and his/her reaction to you.

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    Tides of Mudgee

    A very worrying article about the known toxicity of spike proteins by Dr Joseph Mercola from June 15, 2021. ToM

    https://rightsfreedoms.wordpress.com/2021/06/16/researcher-we-made-a-big-mistake-on-covid-19-vaccine/

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      James Murphy

      Macron was seen as a saviour after Hollande, but he has spent his whole presidency alienating a lot of people (who’d have thought an ex merchant banker would make a terrible, and self-centred leader…?). the “yellow vest” movement was big, but effectively disappeared due to the various extended lockdowns. they have come back a bit, but not with the same vigour and passion.

      Street protests are a way of life in France, so just because there are tens to hundreds of thousands of protestors on the streets, does not mean it will lead to any real change.

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    clarence.t

    I hear that the percentage of vaccinated in the UK is gradually climbing as the jabs wear off.

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    PeterS

    Your social media account, their choice as to whether you can access it and if you do what you have posted. Yes, that’s right. Our federal government is considering the de-anonymise the internet to introduce a social credit system to combat “online abuse” – police will have access to individuals’ social media accounts, which will be linked to people’s passports. If this goes ahead then we will be much closer to what’s already happening in China and NK. Nice eh? Wake up Australia – we are creeping toward tyranny. Already Australia is very different to what it was only a couple of years ago.

    https://twitter.com/i/status/1433385841179643910

    Transcript:
    HAIG: “Well good morning. Essentially it will work the same as a passport. Australians forced to submit 100 points of identification, like their driver’s license or passport when using social media accounts like Facebook and Twitter. Now, police would have access to those social media accounts and it’s all part of a crackdown on online abuse. Now users could be liable for defamation, suits or even criminal prosecution. And it’s all part of a plan hoping to deter people from engaging in a bad behaviour. Now the recommendations were handed down by federal parliamentary inquiry. Their reforms are being considered by the Morrison government, with the chairman saying there is merit to remove, to remove the veil of being anonymous.”

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      Graeme No.3

      Don’t use Facebook or Twitter. What then?

      Reminds me of the Federal Politician in the 50’s who got a telegram (WOKE people look it up) saying “To Hell with you”. Rude letter follows.

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        PeterS

        What then? There will be two classes of people. One, who will continue to use the social media and will continue to be indoctrinated by the lies and BS from the MSM and governments. The other group will be ostracised and treated like second class people with limited freedoms. Who knows that will end up with them. A form of apartheid will be the norm.

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        Tel

        Presuming that they are going for the China model, they will also put a lot of pressure on small blogs and make it very difficult to operate.

        China did a bunch of stuff like directly hacking blogs, and also applying legal/police pressure.

        https://www.bitdefender.com/blog/hotforsecurity/no-more-hiding-online-chinese-users-must-register-under-real-names

        Essentially, any blog that finds it too difficult to keep up with the identification requirements ends up not being allowed to have comments. I guess that was only implemented a few years ago in China … so they are moving full tilt to get all that stuff installed in Australia. At least we know what’s coming, dunno what to do about it.

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      Philip

      I’ll be ditching social media once that becomes the law. I would definitely go down.

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      James Murphy

      Since 2018 or 2019, when you apply for a US visa waiver (ESTA), you are asked to list your social media and email usernames (not passwords) which have been used in the last 5 years, but it is optional (it was, the last time I applied for one, anyway). Visa applicants must disclose these usernames.

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    John+Culhane

    Its all about timing the Biden administrations strategy is to throw another hobgoblin in Americans faces to keep them distracted from existing policy failures. Notice how you have already forgotten Afghanistan and the Arizona election audits. Americans now have to fight the system in the courts and the administration knows they will lose but there is no consequence for them the old policy failures are yesterdays news it will be time for a new hobgoblin. Interestingly the vaccine mandate were it to succeed through the supreme court if it ever gets there could will bring down Roe versus Wade on privacy grounds.

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    One thing which is not mentioned enough. These vaccines are NEW technology. They have not been through any long term testing.

    In usual cases vaccines undergo a very long development program.

    In past coronavirus vaccine attempts we have had all the test animals die (I have seen the papers this is not disputed)

    This reckless and senseless pressure to try to vaccinate all makes no sense at all given what we know about vaccines not stopping spread (and may accelerate it) and that covid is not a serious risk for the vast majority. But it makes even less sense given what I have articulated above. This is completely and utterly wrong on all levels. I cannot believe that we have got to this stage.

    So what happens if Dr Hoffes work on microclots from the vaccines turns out to cause serious long term issues? What if the shots cause infertility long term? etc etc. Biden and his handlers do not care at all, and neither does Scomo or virtually any politicians here in Australia. Its all politics – there is zero science here.

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      Serp

      Minister Hunt said the world’s largest ever clinical trial is under way and the earliest we can expect answers is the end of 2022; which is to say, hold on tight for the next eighteen months of free fall and assume it’ll be a soft landing as it always been (or has it, we do this all the time right).

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        Vicki

        I hadn’t heard that he said that. Was this recently or earlier this year?

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          Serp

          I’ve posted a link to an ABC interview some time back (here it is again: https://www.abc.net.au/insiders/health-minister-greg-hunt/13176536) but alas the 2022 statement I’ve, maybe negligently, taken on trust without corroboration from the QANTAS pilot Graham Wood’s video https://thephaser.com/2021/09/omg-bravest-qantas-pilot-speaks-out-about-vax-mandate/

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            Serp
            Its actually Graham Hood. But his video is outstanding in highlighting the huge issues behind mandating vaccines.

            One aspect here which was not mentioned is our govts Soviet style ban on overseas travel. Quite frankly it needs to be jettisoned immediately we supposedly open up, but will not. It has resulted in wholesale destruction in the tourism industry here in Australia.

            I used to do FIFO to PNG, as did many others on the plane that I got to know. And another friend managed an oil refinery in Thailand flying back every few months for time with his family. There are an even larger number who have overseas business interests or have suppliers overseas who they need to get personnel in and out to service equipment, commission equipment etc – but these have been totally trashed by this unthinking policy. Yes, we have had to do work arounds and some have been innovative, but in the end having the ability to travel overseas for business is a necessity, not a luxury. And without it Australia will be uncompetitive, and ignored by overseas suppliers. And it is virtually impossible to try to launch new products into overseas markets without on the ground representation.

            But Scomo has no idea and the wrecking ball swings through….

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    CHRIS

    2020… Alpha strain. 2021…Delta strain. 2022…??? COVID 19 is continually mutating. Just how effective will current vaccines be against any new virulent strains? (Your guess is as good as mine). I’m guessing that, in 2022, our brilliant government insists that everyone gets a booster shot of whatever vaccine they have been jabbed with, and that these boosters will need to be taken every 12 months. So much for “freedom”.

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      Vicki

      Doubt if that will happen, Chris. In the longer term the anti-virals will almost certainly take over as the weapon of choice. It has been suggested here that this has been the aim for some time & the war against Ivermectin was designed to protect the pharmaceutical companies in the development period.

      Seems logical to me.

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      PeterS

      Our PM already has announced there will be booster shots and enough doses of various vaccines have been ordered to cover into 2023 at least. We heard it straight from him during a telephone town hall meeting a few days ago.

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      Hypersonic

      The variant would need to show considerable mutation of the spike protein to require a new vax.

      With Delta they tweaked the poly basic furin site (you know the bit they inserted into the bat virus at the beginning.

      Any vaxxed reading this should be wary of getting the booster to the new variants as that could be the kill shot lol

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    AUSTRALIA – HISTORIC SUPREME COURT LAWSUIT FILED, ATTORNEY SPEAKS OUT
    https://www.bitchute.com/video/2iNEjjGqheFE/

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    Travis T. Jones

    The only question remaining is how will ScoMo, Gladys, Dan et al legislate on how to identify the unvaccinated second rate citizens they have demonised.

    Make them wear a yellow star?

    Tattoo them?

    Some digital device injected?

    Some have been tried before and those who choose to ignore history are bound to repeat it.

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      PeterS

      That will be easy. As they try to enter certain areas they will need to be scanned using the QR code system. If they are not fully vaccinated the app will send an alert to some central facility so they can keep track of them. Sound too far fetched? Technically it is a no brainer. It remains to be seed if they adopt such a draconian approach.

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      PeterS

      If they wanted to be even more nasty the phone could send out a loud warning sound to embarrass them in front of surrounding people.

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      Travis T. Jones

      I didn’t spend my money on a mobile phone so the government could force me to download their apps and use them to discriminate against me.
      I won’t own one anymore and won’t carry it.
      They will need to make me wear an identifying mark so they can discriminate.

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        PeterS

        I have on occasion walked through shops without using the app. Sometimes a staff member will stop me and demand I “check in”. I refuse and keep walking and nothing happens as they know there is nothing they can do. That’s the sort of passive resistance the people should adopt. Unfortunately, most people are so jelly backed and asleep they obey and behave like zombies proudly displaying their phones in front of everyone to say in effect “Hey peoples, I am so happy to be a slave to my phone”. It’s a bit like the incident in the movie THX 1138 where THX (Robert Duvall) is told “Let us be thankful we have commerce. Buy more. Buy more now. Buy. And be happy.”

        Other parts of the movie that apply more and more

        OMM : Let us be thankful we have an occupation to fill. Work hard, increase production, prevent accidents, and be happy.

        Chrome Robot : Everything will be all right. You are in my hands. I am here to protect you. You have nowhere to go. You have nowhere to go.

        THX 1138 : I think I’m dying.
        OMM : Could you be more–specific?
        [THX vomits]
        OMM : You are a true believer. Blessings of the state. Blessings of the masses…

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    TdeF

    There are a number of principles at stake here. Most importantly, as in Australia, a Federation pools resources to defend the states, the United States, against common enemies. These are outside the US. Otherwise the President and Washington are not there to dictate health to the constituent states let alone issue orders binding all citizens on matters of health. This is not even considered by the constitution.

    The virus was from outside the United States. It was created in a laboratory and whether released deliberately or accidentally, was launched by China against the world with cover provided by the WHO.

    The first order of business for the President should be defence, slamming the doors shut and then to determine who attacked the US. And stop any US involvement in the creation of more deadly viruses, not fling the doors open. The Obama administration also outlawed the very dangerous export and support for gain of function research, particularly because of China. So who secretly restarted and funded it? And why is Fauci still in the job?

    Vietnam, Afghanistan, Syria/Iraq, Iran and China. The common thread is the direct involvement of the CIA and American external policy in all these disasters, the funding and training of Ho Chin Min to eject the French, the funding and training of Osama Bin Laden to eject the Russians and now the funding and provision of weapons of mass destruction to the Wuhan Institute of Virology officially against the orders of President Obama. And then to hide all this from President Trump who was continually misinformed and whose authority was publicly undermined by the same Fauci.

    So why is Fauci still in the job supporting the WIV, with what Admiral Poindexter called plausible deniability, working through third parties? The job of the President is fundamentally external to America, to defend against America’s enemies. So why is he now ordering vaccinations and saying he will fight Governors who oppose his orders? It’s not his job and it is completely beyond his remit. He has no such power. Biden is not King of America nor Emperor of the world. He is Commander in Chief against the enemies of Americans and so obviously running away, hiding. Afghanistan was a disgrace created solely by Biden’s White House. No military commander would have done what Biden ordered, a rout. A terrorist now in the White House, on perpetual holiday. So who is running the place? Not Biden.

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      Lucky

      The study of 30August2021 gives the excess risk from vaccination as 200 per million.

      This is rather different from the stats given here earlier that purport to show the safety of the vaccines. Note, no source for the data was given.

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    TdeF

    Only the President could order a rout for a photo opportunity for the 20th anniversary of 9/11.

    What’s the point of all that West Point training for all those generals? What Commander in Chief orders all his soldiers out of Kabul overnight without warning anyone at all?

    And when someone realised they left behind $100Bn in advanced weapons, thousands of civilians and all the Allies fighting on behalf of the US effort, Biden orders thousands of soldiers back? It is beyond belief. Sorry, I forgot.

    Where was the planning? Where were the phone calls to the leaders of Allied nations? Where was the warning? And now he’s taking credit for getting a hundred Americans out? Who left them there? What about the Australians?

    And 45,000 Afghans are now in the US without innoculation, screening or planning. And vast numbers of uninoculated illegal aliens to provide cheap labour for his friends, just dropped in communities all over America. The only question is whether they will vote Democrat.

    Joe is taking credit for these triumphs of American power and planning, his answer to the tragedy of 9/11. Run away and leave the field of battle and all the equipment and all your own people and allies to the enemy as a testament to the power of the Biden White House. Joe Biden is already infamous.

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    TdeF

    And Fauci lied to Congress. He clearly lied to Trump. Whatever his reason, Fauci ran his own foreign policy and went against the explicit orders of President Obama to prohibit export of gain of function research. Why isn’t Fauci on charges of treason like the Rosenbergs who gave atom bomb secrets to the Soviet Union.

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      TdeF

      And it extends into Canada with deadly viruses being sent to the Wuhan Institute, a Chinese military facility.

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      Tel

      Gain of Function research was never outright prohibited under any US law. The Obama government (October 2014) blocked all FUNDING to gain of function research. Strangely that blockage was quietly removed right before Trump took office.

      https://obamawhitehouse.archives.gov/blog/2017/01/09/recommended-policy-guidance-potential-pandemic-pathogen-care-and-oversight

      The key quote is this:

      … lifting the current moratorium on certain life sciences research that could enhance a pathogen’s virulence and/or transmissibility to produce a potential pandemic pathogen …

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        TdeF

        State laws govern what happens in the States. Federal laws govern what happens in the United States with only such powers as ceded by the States to the Federal Government. Outside that the US can have policies but has no laws. The President is Commander in Chief of the armed forces and his job is the world outside the United States and President Obama blocked all funding and support of gain of function research outside America and specifically China. Fauci and friends worked out ways around his order, specifically to support the Chinese Communist Party. That is treason. The Rosenbergs were hanged for exactly such activity.

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          Tel

          I linked it right there, Obama’s funding block was lifted in 2017. Also the contract to Ecohealth Alliance Inc was from May 2014 and got through BEFORE the funding block, although no doubt they continued working afterwards.

          Since the USA has not declared war on China it’s difficult to see why sending them money or any other resource would be treason.

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            TdeF

            Treason does not require a declaration of war. Or the Rosenbergs would not have hanged.

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              TdeF

              And when the Republicans take over government at the coming election, Biden will be impeached and Fauci will be tried. Millions have died. And so many lies have been told. Biden and Fauci have to answer for their betrayal. Afghanistan, Ukraine, China.

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    Travis T. Jones

    Obama, the magic poc, photographed wearing a face mask on 9-11, but didn’t wear a mask at his 60th birthday bash.

    Seems Covid-19 is attracted to cameras and photo moments.

    https://www.cbsnews.com/news/biden-obama-clinton-911-new-york-display-of-unity/#app

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    PeterS

    Physician desires to scare people by inflating COVID Numbers, and also by saying “If You Do not Get Vaccinated, You Know You are Going To Die”

    Included is the video of the Zoom video conference call between physicians and a marketing director at Novant Heath New Hanover Regional Medical Center, a group of 20 hospitals, clinics, and offices that treat patients in North Carolina and South Carolina.

    These are the type of people that are must be breading everywhere now. If this is not blatant scaremongering then nothing is. Isn’t there a law against such activity?

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    M Allinson

    “Fresh air is the safest place to be” – NSW Health Minister Brad Hazzard.

    https://www.smh.com.au/politics/nsw/fresh-air-is-the-safest-place-to-be-hazzard-raises-easing-more-outdoor-restrictions-20210911-p58qsr.html

    But, he didn’t add, our health orders demand you stay inside where it’s less safe.

    I suppose, faced with beaches crammed with sunlight-craving people, his only alternative would be to order the RAAF to strafe them – for the sake of public safety, of course.

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      PeterS

      There are many such contradictions but who cares? The law is the law and those who breach the law are punished accordingly. This is what happens when a nation gradually creeps towards a police state. How far it goes only time will tell.

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        Tel

        But the law is supposed to come out of a process with debate and representation.

        This is just what a bunch of unalected employees came up with and the rules change every day. The fact that they give themselves titles like “Chief” or “Commander” doesn’t make this law.

        Many of last year’s fines were successfully challenged when they finally did get examined by the courts … and despite that, we have NSW police declaring they don’t even have to worry about what the rules are (they can’t figure them out either) and just issue megafines to whoever.

        This is the year where the law isn’t the law.

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          PeterS

          Not sure what you are referring to. I’m talking about the state laws being placed upon us to control our movements, which some claim are against the constitutional law. The law is the law but it can be a law that breaches a higher law and so is illegal under the higher courts. Laws can and have been over turned but until they are the state police can and will enforce them to the letter of the law as they have the guns.

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            Lucky

            Tel just explained that these edicts/proclamations/decrees/regulations are not law nor are they backed by law.
            In such events, guns enforce tyranny, not the letter of any law.

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    another ian

    FWIW

    “An Articulate Nurse Dealing With COVID Hospitalization Gives Honest Insight About What Really is Happening – Alarming Secondary Confirmation of Details Provided and Cited
    September 11, 2021 | Sundance | 171 Comments”

    https://theconservativetreehouse.com/blog/2021/09/11/an-articulate-nurse-dealing-with-covid-hospitalization-gives-honest-insight-about-what-really-is-happening-alarming-secondary-confirmation-of-details-provided-and-cited/

    Must be pretty bad when you can’t talk about it

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      Hanrahan

      There is nothing in that that would surprise any regulars here. I feel so helpless
      .
      The GW alarmists accuse us old boomers of not caring about the younger generations, they say we are selfish. BULLSHEET!! it is they who don’t care for their own future and even less about the boomers they want to kill off.

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    TedM

    Trexia69
    @trexia69
    ·
    20h
    Replying to
    @RWMaloneMD
    Fauci is asked why people who had Covid already are being required to vaccinate, even though they’re likely more protected than vaccinated people

    “That’s a really good point…I don’t really have a firm answer for you on that”

    https://twitter.com/i/status/1436501735384698884

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    Peter Fitzroy

    According to worldometer The USA is still killing around 10,000 of its citizens a week. While this is down a bit, it does provide the rationale for the President’s orders. At this rate the USA will have killed a million of its citizens by the middle of next year.

    It has killed more of its citizens than India or China or Brazil or Indonesia.

    Bleat all you want, but those are the facts

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      Hypersonic

      I am only responding to highlight your stupidity.

      The virus made in part by america is killing Americans so the president orders a vax mandate to stop killing Americans?

      The president hates postal workers so they exempt thus dying from the virus?

      The president lives postal workers thus exempt from vax mandate?

      The president hates illegal aliens thus exempt from vax mandate?

      The president lives illigals so exempt from vax mandate?

      The president hates Congress et Al sobexemot from vax mandate?

      Once the dust has settled from your now busted antilogic firewall asked yourself why only the mandate only applies to the average American citizen if this is all about saving lives as you claim?

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      Forrest Gardener

      There is a saying that you can’t cure stupid. And in PF there goes your proof.

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      Harves

      Wasn’t it all Trump’s fault that thousands were dying every day. Yet Biden has overseen more than 220,000 covid deaths … with the vaccine available for his entire Presidency.

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        Hypersonic

        Biden/heels up Harris said they would never take a shot developed by trump so I guess they had the placebo but for the (segregated) great unwashed they will get the real trump kill shot

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      Ronin

      Ask Fauchi why they are dying.

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      Tel

      It has killed more of its citizens than India or China or Brazil or Indonesia.

      China can’t be trusted to provide any real information about how many have died. Their Internet is filtered, their government-owned press have a long history or reporting ridiculous statistics and people who speak out tend to vanish for no reason.

      That leaves India (big users of HCQ and Ivermectin), Indonesia (government also finally accepted that Ivermectin can work, as reported right here on this blog which you usually read), and Brazil where the whole thing has been very piecemeal and hard to follow, but Ivermectin certainly has been extensively used there, although not based on any clear policy.

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      Kalm Keith

      These highly qualified people are confirming the anecdotal evidence that is coming from friends and acquaintances in significant numbers.

      Too many community reports now describe severe post vaccination reactions which are damaging and debilitating.

      I’ve never experienced this level of damage from other vaccines; the nearest to this, in my experience, being the annual flu vaxx.

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    Furiously+Curious

    Someone posted this yesterday, and it is possibly a crack in the wall? The blowback is going to be – ignore, censor, “we require gold plated double blind studies”. But this is an excellent play, blind siding the political shouting match. I’m a bit pessimistic the world has become a chimera, everything just drifts off to nothingness. No statement is truer than another. If you throw up enough bulls..t people lose their grasp on any reality
    “Don’t mention the treatment”

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gdp0URhEhK4&t=42s

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      PeterS

      Too much is going on and there is no way anyone can know for sure where all this is heading in the short term. We just have to wait and see. Long term though I’m a realist. The West as we knew it will give way to a new world order. I have absolutely no doubt about that. It’s no longer even a secret. The precise details of how we get there will be revealed in due course.

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        Simon

        The New World Order is not a secret any more thanks to Dr Kerry Chant. Plans of world domination are now ruined.

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    Furiously+Curious

    All the figures for Australian covid19 for 2020. Outsiders mentioned the prevalence of co-morbidities. It’s up in the high 90%. It’s down in chapter 2.

    https://www.aihw.gov.au/getmedia/a69ee08a-857f-412b-b617-a29acb66a475/aihw-phe-287.pdf.aspx?inline=true

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      OldOzzie

      Furiously+Curious – Thanks excellent find – https://www.aihw.gov.au/getmedia/a69ee08a-857f-412b-b617-a29acb66a475/aihw-phe-287.pdf.aspx?inline=true

      Especially Chapter 2

      Dementia was a pre-existing chronic condition reported as an associated cause in 41% of COVID-19
      deaths in 2020. Dementia is the second-leading cause of death in the general Australian population
      and a common associated cause in deaths due to other conditions such as influenza and pneumonia,
      especially in the older age groups which had the highest numbers of COVID-19 deaths.
      Chronic heart diseases, diabetes, hypertension, and chronic lower respiratory diseases were other
      common chronic conditions certified in 33%, 18%, 15% and 15% respectively of deaths due to COVID-19 (Table 2.2).

      Table 2.2: Most commonly certified pre-existing chronic conditions reported as associated
      causes of COVID-19 deaths

      Males who died from COVID-19 were more likely than females to have chronic heart diseases
      recorded as an associated cause of death, regardless of age. Chronic lower respiratory diseases,
      chronic kidney disease and musculoskeletal conditions were more common associated causes of death for females aged 60–79 who died from COVID-19 (compared to males aged 60–79 and people aged 80 and over) (Figure 2.10). Diabetes was a more common associated cause of death among

      people aged 60–79 who died from COVID-19 compared to those aged 80 and over. Dementia was a
      more common associated cause of COVID-19 deaths among people aged 80 and over (Figure 2.10).

      Re Dementia, one of my mates in his late 60s developed Dementia and it was amazing how quickly over 18 Months he deteriorated to the point where his body was unable to support his life and totally shut down with death.

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        OldOzzie

        Deaths by socioeconomic group

        COVID-19 deaths sourced from ABS provisional mortality statistics were analysed by socioeconomic
        group based on population-based quintiles (using the ABS’s Index of Relative Socio-Economic
        Disadvantage) which have equal-sized populations. This shows there was a clear gradient of
        decreasing COVID-19 deaths and age-standardised mortality rates by increasing socioeconomic
        position. There were almost 4 times as many deaths due to COVID-19 registered for people in the
        lowest socioeconomic group compared with the highest socioeconomic group, and age-standardised
        mortality rates were 2.6 times as high. This gradient was evident for both males and females
        (Figure 2.22)

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          Hanrahan

          Is it fair to say the higher socio-economic groups are, by definition, more pro-active about both health and wealth than the others and likely to be better informed?

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        shortie+of+greenbank

        alzheimers/dementia is truly a problem. It was the biggest killer of women in the Uk last year and has been for the last couple of years. Not sure on the Aussie data.

        This will persist with the push to remove foods from our diets that provide the base materials to build healthy brains and the nutrients to help maintain them (i.e. omega 3 DHA/EPA and choline) and replacing them with more kibble that is high in what drive the plaque formation in the first place (fructose and AGEs from seed oils). This will continue to be an issue into the future with recent US data showing about 2/3 of food fed to children is hyper processed junk during the pandemic rubbish.

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      PeterS

      I like it at the end where one can now be referred to as transvaccinated. LOL.

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    Brenda Spence

    Dr Peter McCullough – “The only way to stay healthy right now is to stay away from the Covid-19 Vaccine

    ”There’s a hunting that’s going on here that’s very disturbing,” McCullough said in an episode of Perspectives on the Pandemic.2 He was referring to state medical boards hunting down doctors and their and threatening revocation of their licenses based on the spreading of unidentified “misinformation.”

    “This is absolutely astonishing that this is happening over a fair exchange of ideas,” he said. What is Dr. McCullough sharing that the powers that be don’t want you to hear? It’s about COVID-19 injections and, to sum it up in a sentence, “It’s not working and it’s causing tremendous damage.”

    https://theexpose.uk/2021/09/11/dr-peter-mccullough-the-only-way-to-stay-healthy-right-now-is-to-stay-away-from-the-covid-19-vaccine/

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    Furiously+Curious

    First travel outside my LGA yesterday, and caught some news bulletins on radio. Man! They are ramming people’s noses into pregnant women ‘s suffering with covid, while standing back and letting them suffer, as a lesson to what can happen to you if you don’t vaccinate. (Vaccination has never been recommended for pregnant women, and was never tested for in the trials. I did see something about some recent trial results. But really! Pregnant women should vaccinate!) Fu..ing treat them!
    There are never any comparisons between early treatment and vaccination success rates – I guess because there is no early treatment?! So the comparisons are always between unvaccinated and vaccinated. There is a yawning vacuum in those numbers, and people just ignore it. Treatment? What treatment?
    You’d have to give the disinformation campaign 9/10.
    See #57

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      Peter C

      There are never any comparisons between early treatment and vaccination success rates – I guess because there is no early treatment?! So the comparisons are always between unvaccinated and vaccinated. There is a yawning vacuum in those numbers, and people just ignore it. Treatment? What treatment?

      Maybe try the Zelenko vitamin protocol: Vit C, Vit D, Zinc and Quercetin
      https://zstack.vladimirzelenkomd.com/products/z-stack

      I do not know of any trials, but Dr Zelenko gives it his personal recommendation (and sells the stuff as well)

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      shortie+of+greenbank

      There was one ‘study’ released where they followed about 827 women for their pregnancy and found 12% miscarriage. Now considering the normal ‘base’ miscarriage rate is roughly estimated at about 10% that might raise only a few eyebrows.

      What we find when we go into the study is that 700 of the 827 women were vaccinated AFTER week 20 the normal cut off period for classing something as ‘miscarried’ Other terms like still birth etc are normally used after that. So the about 100 miscarriages occurred in the 120-odd women vaccinated before 20 weeks OR they included still births in the miscarriage totals which doesn’t make sense since they had a still birth column as well ( which was also above average, not the average they posted those that one is base in the population including other vaccinated not a control group).

      Now knowing that roughly 10% normally miscarry by 20 weeks and 700 made it past 20 weeks to be vaccinated then you would normally say 770 pregnancies. So at a minimum you would expect about 17%, well above what you would call ‘noise’ and at worse around 80%. In reality these are two completely difference cohorts (before 20 weeks and after 20 weeks) that should not have been mixed but was done so to deliberately drive down a single statistic.

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    M Allinson

    The very idea of testing pregnant women with an experimental “vaccine” with no data on long term effects is obscene.

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      PeterS

      Actually, it’s called attempted murder of the unborn baby.

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      Hypersonic

      The only data I have seen on this is a very large increase in spontaneous abortion/still birth in the first trimester after that no change in the data.

      However the effects of the vax residing and creating spike protein in the ovaries is unknown, we should know in 9 to 12 months I suppose.

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    M Allinson

    Boris Johnson bows to reality and scraps the “vaccine passports”

    https://tinyurl.com/wuaayh22

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    STJOHNOFGRAFTON

    More and more people are losing trust in the vaxxine. They figure that any medical procedure that requires bullying and blackmail must be shonky. Our Premiers should realise that blackmail and bullying are retarding efforts to get the vax accepted.

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      Hypersonic

      We are all in this together…..

      So if I get the jab and have a heart attack I can sue Pfizer…….no

      Ok so I can sue the government…..ah no

      Ok so I can get a invalid pension equal to my current wage or if I die my family will he looked after…..ah no again

      Ok so we are all in this together unless I have a severe reaction to the vax and then I am on my own…..yes that’s right

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    Konrad

    From the international data the science is clear:
    1. Natural immunity is superior to the “vaccines”, both broader and longer lasting.
    2. Jabbing someone who aquired natural immunity reduces their protection against reinfection.
    3. Persons who are jabbed then later get exposed to the virus do not gain broad natural immunity.

    Therefore the ethical medical approach for the majority of Australians is to help them aquire natural immunity in the safest way possible.

    The actions of the TGA in preventing this approach are completely unethical and unscientific.

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      Forrest Gardener

      Going back a step I’d be interested in the tests available to distinguish between those who are naturally immune and those who are not. And tests to distinguish between those at risk of a severe reaction to the injections and those not at risk.

      And statistics ain’t gunna cut it!

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    Broadie

    Scomo has just told us to take advantage of the Moderna available at your Community Pharmacy and get your ‘Family Jab’.

    Ok Scomo, go take your extended Family to the local Pharmacy and get them all ‘jabbed’. No possibility of placebos in a controlled environment get the raw deal you are recommending for everyone else’s family.

    ‘Scotty from marketing’ and Family leading from the front would be a perfect sales tool.

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      Vicki

      Quite frankly, pharmacies would be the last place I would go to receive a vaccine of any type. I have seen too many badly administered injections in the TV media to endure any of the makeshift “surgeries”.

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    Hypersonic

    https://halturnerradioshow.com/index.php/en/news-page/news-nation/biden-threatens-to-remove-governors-who-oppose-his-vaccine-demands-civil-war-now-likely

    This story talks about removing governors via charges of insurrection as per the constitution. It’s a go read and explains why all this can only end one way.

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    Travis T. Jones

    This one aged well …

    Where the bloody hell are you – spoof (2006) 0.45 sec

    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=411ueiat2sY

    [Warning bad language.]AD

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    Clyde

    Oh, my… this is worrying, but not entirely surprising:
    https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2021.04.06.21254882v2.full.pdf

    Evidence for increased breakthrough rates of SARS-CoV-2 variants of concern in BNT162b2 mRNA vaccinated individuals

    That’s the Pfizer / BioNTech vaccine. The study states that it puts Pfizer / BioNTech / Camernaty vaccine recipients at a higher risk of infection from Covid19 variants.

    IOW, the vaccine is making things worse.

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    Rod

    …and the global rebellion against the nonsense steps up:

    Lawyers worldwide submit new evidence to International Criminal Court alleging World Leaders & Scientific Advisors have used Covid-19 & the Injections to commit Genocide and Crimes against Humanity

    https://theexpose.uk/2021/08/18/lawyers-submit-new-evidence-to-icc-alleging-world-leaders-have-committed-genocide/

    I’m shocked. Shocked I say! An Australian police officer (female) with bigger cahones than her male colleagues…

    ustralia: A Police Officer and Two Others Are Challenging the Government of New South Wales Over Covid Injection Mandates

    https://theexpose.uk/2021/09/11/australia-a-police-officer-and-two-others-are-challenging-the-government-of-new-south-wales-over-covid-injection-mandates/

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    Konrad

    And then the next domino fell …

    After the failure of the quackzines to stop infections from new strains in the UK, Boris Johnson has called an end to the UK quackzine passport game.

    The Scandinavian governments have already pulled the pin. Italy and Isreal are now acknowledging that natural immunity is superior to the quackzines.

    So that leaves Mini Mal, Gormless Gladys and Dictator Dan mindlessly dancing to the tune of the festering fly-blown globalist meat-puppet Resident Biden.

    The quackzine passports crew fighting to stop the use of Ivermectin and the other therapeutics are getting smaller and smaller and their totalitarian wet-dreams are drying to just an embarrassing crustiness on the sheets of history.

    Who’s left? Idiot Australia, the few remaining Sparkle-Socksians in Canadia and a handful of steamed vegetables that still believe Joementia got 81,000,000 legal votes. Oh the sadness …

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    Vicki

    For those who are faced with the contempt of the vaccinated, I suggest confronting them with a list of international virologists etc who have been warning about the danger of this experiment for some time. They want to “follow the science”…..well here are some of the world’s most prestigeous experts……

    You may be surprised. In a social phone conversation with a vaccinated (very early, too) person, I was gingerly asked how long would her vaccination be effective, since she was well aware that I had been studying the issue for some time. I was quite surprised.

    I can supply a list here, if anyone wants one.

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      Steve of Cornubia

      I’m afraid that won’t work. Those who have had the jab are necessarily on the side of the vaccines, even if they now have doubts. Few ppoeple who have been jabbed want to acknowledge that they have made a bad – and irreversible – choice, so human nature will dictate that they become immovable advocates. Even if, as time passes, the efficacy or safety of these vaccines comes under question, those already vaccinated will remain welded-on. They have little choice.

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      Hypersonic

      Vicki if I am being harassed I would not go to all that trouble I would just simply reply with GFY but that’s me straight to the point.

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    Tim C

    Just a thought, why is Jo quoting from The Babylon Bee when it is a satirical publication?

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    Flok

    It is certainly playing out to be a dirty game and a lot of unassuming good people are falling into the trap.

    A world where elite want ownership without accountability.

    In all other parts of the society it is called subcontracting.

    No medicine has seen the light of market without tested and approved product.

    For government to approve the emergency use and then force compliance is criminal and pure evil.

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    Grogery

    When a vaccine becomes available which gives me immunity to covid-19 I will gladly take it.

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    Steve of Cornubia

    I remain unconvinced that these experimental vaccines are safe and so want to delay having them as long as possible – maybe indefinitely. My current hope is that some other, safer therapy will be ‘discovered’, making the vaccines obsolete, before the Stasi come knocking on my door.

    My main worry ATM is that my family are, to varying degree, less resistant to the vaccines. My son is already vaccinated, my daughter plans to (though mysteriously hasn’t so far) and my wife has said that, if the choice is vaccination or continued house arrest, she’ll have it. I would then be under extreme pressure to go along with it or be an effective outcast in my own home.

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    David Maddison

    https://www.ukcolumn.org/article/the-rationale-for-the-continued-vaccine-roll-out-is-not-evident

    The Rationale for the Continued Vaccine Roll-Out is Not Evident

    by

    IAIN DAVIS

    Friday, 30th July 2021

    We appear to have serious problems with the Covid-19 vaccination programme. The evidence underpinning the claimed efficacy and safety of the Pfizer BNT162b2 vaccine is highly questionable. Statistical analysis raises numerous issues, and until these are addressed, the alleged benefits cannot be shown to outweigh the risks. 

    With wider concerns expressed by some of the world’s leading immunologists, virologists and epidemiologists, justification for the continued vaccination programme appears to be lacking. Possible unacceptable risk is evident in every nation which has vaccinated a significant proportion of its population.

    The vaccines appear to increase the mortality risk from Covid-19, something the authorities and the regulatory agencies have so far shown little or no interest in investigating.

    Some of what we are about to discuss is necessarily speculative. It is based upon a full statistical analysis—but, absent a comprehensive investigation, we cannot be certain why this analysis appears to show an increased Covid-19 mortality risk following vaccination.

    Equally, refusal to investigate this correlation is untenable. No claim of either vaccine safety or efficacy is justified without properly accounting for this statistical analysis.

    Concerning Data Emerges in Israel

    SEE LINK FOR REST

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      Global Cooling

      You need more of it, if it does not work. One booster first and then second one and so on. 🙂

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        Lucky

        Quite so.
        Your death, after the 3rd or 7th or nth 5-month interval confirms that you should have had double booster shots not single.

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    PeterS

    It has begun in France. Riots between masked and unmasked people. I suspect such violent clashes will only escalate as officialdom keep going down the draconian path pushing the envelope.

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    Catherine

    Some of the billions spent on vaccines could have been used for putting together an early recommended treatment for patients who just received a positive test.

    https://www.nature.com/articles/ja201711

    Published: 15 February 2017

    Ivermectin: enigmatic multifaceted ‘wonder’ drug continues to surprise and exceed expectations
    Over the past decade, the global scientific community has begun to recognize the unmatched value of an extraordinary drug, ivermectin, that originates from a single microbe unearthed from soil in Japan. Work on ivermectin has seen its discoverer, Satoshi Ōmura, of Tokyo’s prestigious Kitasato Institute, receive the 2014 Gairdner Global Health Award and the 2015 Nobel Prize in Physiology or Medicine, which he shared with a collaborating partner in the discovery and development of the drug, William Campbell of Merck & Co. Incorporated.
    Today, ivermectin is continuing to surprise and excite scientists, offering more and more promise to help improve global public health by treating a diverse range of diseases, with its unexpected potential as an antibacterial, antiviral and anti-cancer agent being particularly extraordinary.

    – “Arkin and his team culled through a library of more than 2,800 approved-for-use compounds, identifying 18 drugs they felt could be effective. In unpublished work, the researchers were able to show that several of these compounds “exhibited remarkable potency against the whole virus in in vitro experiments.”

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      PeterS

      Thanks. By the looks of it they have been trialling it and testing the waters at the same time. People are loving it as I expected. It’s a sign of the times.

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    PeterS

    Interesting conflict between a judge and the police in the street. The judge won! We need judges like him here.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p7ZVgiBykl4

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    PeterS

    This is amazing. Together with how Trump was treated when he visited NY lately, if an election was held now I’m almost certain that Trump would demolish the Democrats Party.

    https://twitter.com/i/status/1436814399688294400

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    beowulf

    Seriously good news from NSW.

    Glad the Impaler has done a quiet backflip in her tyrannical anti-freedom edicts.

    Both Glad and her deputy Barilaro have now back-tracked on their hard-line stance of last Thursday.
    • Deputy Premier John Barilaro has said vaccine passports will be scrapped.
    • Gladdy and Barilaro have now repeated that at 70% “full vaccination” things will open up for the double vaxxed
    • They expect the interval between 70% and 80% to be about 3 weeks during which time the unvaxxed will still be persona non grata, but after 80% things will open up more with details yet to be specified, however retail will be opened up to all
    It will no longer be government edict that decides who can enter a business, but will be left up to the businesses themselves to decide — but according to Gladdy they won’t want to soil their floors with the unvaxxed — if your business has been teetering on bankruptcy for months are you really going to turn away 20% of your customers?
    • Masks will still need to be worn and the 4m2 rule will apply indoors etc, but at least you can go to the shop other than only for “critical retail” items
    • No word on whether employers must still register all employees with the state government to prove they are vaxxed, but given that businesses will potentially be crawling with 20% unvaxxed, it would seem pointless to enforce that particular piece of bureaucratic idiocy.
    • Now all we need is for Scotty to get with the program federally

    Bore it up ’em boys and girls. Pile the pressure on. Give Dan and his minions the same treatment. Now that the first fracture has opened, it will be easier for Victorians to throw off their shackles too. Let sanity reign.

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9983945/Covid-19-Unvaccinated-Australians-locked-pubs-THREE-WEEKS-NSW.html

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      Vicki

      Gosh, that’s good news.

      I just had a wonderful chat with my painter (who finished the job today). He restored my faith that the good ole sceptical Aussie still exists. He is covered from head to toe in tatoos, and in his late 20s, but spoke more sense than I have heard from most of my university educated friends.

      He may reluctantly have a vaccination (which he has been delaying) because he doesnt think he can financially survive the implications of no vax. But he is totally understanding of how we have reached this incredible situation & is totally informed about the development of the vaccines. He was amazingly well informed – even to the point of knowing not to take Panadol if he has any side effects from AZ.

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      beowulf

      Now Gladys is fighting with Barilaro about the extent of freedoms for the unvaxxed when 80% is reached. A lot can happen in a month. For a start we’ll wait for the court cases to be heard in a couple of weeks.

      And if there are no vaccine passports as Barilaro stated, how will they know who to discriminate against in any case?

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    another ian

    “COVID Data, Facts Not Fear
    September 12, 2021 | Sundance | 162 Comments

    Twitter user Jason Bailey [LINK HERE] has done a deep dive into the latest CDC data on SARS-CoV-2 (COVID-19). There is obviously a lot of noise amid the competing COVID narratives, as politicians and media are intent on weaponizing the fear for maximum political value. Baily provides the links and just looks at the raw data.”

    Links to data and spreadsheets for those inclined

    https://theconservativetreehouse.com/blog/2021/09/12/covid-data-facts-not-fear/

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    another ian

    CTH from Dec 2020

    “This is mostly a repost by request. CTH accurately predicted ten months ago that through Biden the control agents would use OSHA to force vaccination requirements. It’s not prescience, it’s just a matter of knowing who is operating this and why. As requested – here is the “who”, “what, “where” and “why” they are attempting this….

    [December 2020] Why is COVID-19 being disproportionately hyped as such a dangerous threat, when the reality of the statistical danger is much less than the intense level of hype?… That is the key question.”

    More and links at

    https://theconservativetreehouse.com/blog/2021/09/10/where-are-they-trying-to-take-us-and-why-are-they-putting-us-in-a-handbasket/

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    Steve of Cornubia

    In 2020, the USA experienced 2,913,144 deaths from all causes.

    According to official data to the end of 2020, Covid killed 365,738 people.

    If we subtract the official Covid deaths from the 2020 data, ‘non-Covid’ deaths were 2,547,406.

    Total deaths for pre-Covid years were:

    2016: 2,744,248
    2017: 2,813,503
    2018: 2,839,206
    2019: 2,855,000

    So, during a year when vital treatments for heart disease and cancer patients were delayed, along with that for many other serious chronic conditions, non-Covid deaths literally plunged.

    Right.

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