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They Thought They Were Free — Living in Nazi Germany during the transition

Thousands were asleep at the wheel, occupied with busywork, and an endless trail of minor crises. Each little step was worse than the one before, inexorably, but only a little worse. Like a field of corn that we never see growing — but one day it is over our head.

There is no time when everyone realizes together and lifts in mass protest. Instead, little moments tip the balance, one person at a time. And once awake, good people don’t want to be troublemakers. They are afraid to stand out.

Its all so human while it becomes something so horribly inhumane.

The form of the nation stays the same but the spirit changes to become something people would never have accepted even five years earlier. Like perhaps the idea that people who committed, at most, a minor misdemeanor, a trespass, could be kept without charges in solitary confinement for months on end.

We are a gregarious species. It is hardwired. Our great strength is also our greatest vulnerability…

So many wait for someone else to speak up.

 

Excerpt from pages 166-73 of They Thought They Were Free: The Germans, 1933-45. They interviewed 10 Germans who talked about what it was like during the transition from normal to crazy Nazi nightmare.  How it happened and how so many people went along with it.

UPDATE: The youtube contains a few MAGA type snippets at the end in a cheap attempt to conflate Nazism with Trump. They’re short, but a naked attempt to fog the meme. If anyone can find a better edit, I’ll replace it.

hat tip Another Ian and to Small Dead Animals

PS: If someone can find this on not-youtube, I’ll change the video.

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    clarence.t

    From David last thread……

    About the Arizona and other election fraud in the US.

    https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=799853364016761&id=100070588512115

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    David Maddison

    Jo, I couldn’t find this video on a free speech video site. Not on Rumble, Bitchute or Odysee.

    [thx for looking -Jo]

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      Rudi

      Perhaps that’s because the inserted colour clips were seeking to associate Republicans with the Nazis?
      The source material is indeed thought provoking, but isn’t the YouTube version just gaslighting?

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        Noted thanks Rudi, Olsen, DK, and updated in the post.

        The MAGA images are cheap irrelevant shots. The main message is so important it’s worth sharing. It would be better without the trash at the end. Perhaps there is a better edit elsewhere.

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          dk_

          There was also some Brexit protest clips. The “Maga” shot was just one of several real shots that the MSM made another obvious hoax out of. They were placed was in context with the rest of the collage, but in a way that is associating Brexit and Trump with Nazis.

          Not long after reading the “Thought they were Free” book years ago, I got a tour of Germany that included a stop at Dachau. I’ve been deeply suspicous of any “side” that tries to use WWII politically ever since. If you’re familiar at all with Kurt Vonnegut, you might know that he was much the same. Probably that ruined it for me.

          If you wanted, the entire second edition of the “Thought They Were Free” book is listed on Audible, free for a trial. The paperback and audio CD are also listed on Amazon, both overpriced. Don’t see an e-book listing. It is a pretty tough thing to read.

          Both videos from that YouTube source are IMO misusing the authors’ intent, and the videos are out of context from the original works. The readings are both from the same voice actor, with the same German accented English.

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            James Murphy

            As part of a longer tour, I visited the memorial/museum at Mauthausen. It wasn’t busy, and I wandered around by myself. It was a surprisingly emotional experience. I think it’s important to keep these places as reminders of how terrible humans can be towards each other. I didnt walk away thinking all humans are terrible, just that it proves how easily humans can end up doing terrible things, and somehow justifying it to themselves.

            What was interesting was that the most outspoken “lefty” in the tour group was the only one who refused to go past the entrance, and thought we’d be better off if such places were completely destroyed and never spoken of, because they apparently found it too distressing. It does seem very self-centred and selfish, wanting to deny others the ability to see these things for themselves just because ones own emotions are pushed to their limits.

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          ColA

          First, they came for the Communists,
          and I didn’t speak up,
          because I wasn’t a Communist.
          Then they came for the Jews,
          and I didn’t speak up,
          because I wasn’t a Jew.
          Then they came for the Catholics,
          and I didn’t speak up,
          because I was a Protestant.
          Then they came for me,
          and by that time there was no one
          left to speak up for me.

          Martin Niemoller, a former junior officer in the German Navy.

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    nb

    The left now knows it not only has to fight the Republicans to win an election – it has to fight the American people. Similar situation in recent UK by-elections, and in Victoria. Ahh, postal voting! Puts new meaning in the term ‘Going postal’.

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      Klem

      The Dems know that Dominion Voting has their back.

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      Greg Cavanagh

      The left don’t need to fight the republicans because the republicans are the left also. They are either bought and paid for, or Dems who infiltrated and pretend to be the opposition. But they definitely aren’t the opposition.

      The general public are being manipulated to believe. Where that doesn’t work, they’re simply being railroaded. Where that doesn’t work, they’re being ignored. Where that doesn’t work, they’re being prosecuted, cancelled, and attacked both metaphorically and physically.

      This is much bigger than just about winning elections.

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        PeterS

        That was made clear to me when our own PM Morrison turned and supported the CAGW scam by proclaiming the “virtues” of reducing emissions a long time ago now. I then lost faith in the LNP and now consider them a turncoat party. The exaggerated nonsense over the virus and vaccinations only adds more proof of who and what the so called conservatives are today.

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        truth

        The sequence described in this video resonates with anyone who has been part of the resistance in the school system in Australia and around the world since the New Left 60s.

        It’s ‘boiling the frog’ …the playbook for the Fabians and their ‘gradualism’ …and it’s how the Left has so comprehensively achieved its infestation of all the important institutions throughout the Western world…especially the schools and universities.

        Once they had education in its entirety in their death grip …everything else seamlessly fell into place…Left Wing teachers …politicians…lawyers…judiciary…CEOs…bankers…Chief Scientists…churches…even military….all whipped into line by the Social Scientists who wrote the rules for the new post-normal post-modern world….and the MSM journalists who enforced them.

        Teachers and parents who resisted and asked too many questions were hosed down and intimidated…told they were ‘old-fashioned’…that education had ‘moved on’….there was nowhere to go with the ‘sinking feeling’ because MSM was in the Socialist camp.

        Many authors…like the late Richard Mitchell …wrote extensively about it …warned about what was happening…tried every which way to change its course in the US …to no avail.

        Trump was the best hope in many years for an end to the carnage we can now see…but it would probably take an unbroken succession of like-minded realists with his courage and clear thinking to have any hope now of ending the madness…that or clarity following America’s self-destruction that would bring the whole world down with it.

        Without that leadership…the only last hope lies in an en masse revolution by parents that’s starting to emerge in the US…and that hopefully Mark Latham’s revelations could spark here.

        The madness of Hitler spawned the madness we see now… it was in reaction to the horrors of Nazism that many Germans turned to the Communists who began their Long March through the schools in the regions of Germany post-war and relentlessly turned children against their parents as a precursor to their indoctrination.

        The Left are always coming for the children…it’s basic to all of their aspirations and ends…as we see in BidenInc’s America with their enmity towards the nuclear family….so parents are the key…so long as the can fend off the LW journalists who will try to nobble them.

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    PeterS

    Finally, the message is getting through to some. History repeats.

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      Orson Olson

      The visuals in the video, towards the end pair battlefield scenes, Hitler rallies and marches, against MAGA signs, Trump holding the Bible st old St. John’s Church across Lafayette plaza, and President Trump speaking.

      These video makers clearly believe Republicans, especially Trump supporters, are closet Nazis.

      As usual, good luck with that!

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        Klem

        Perhaps they don’t know that Hitler was a Leftist.

        Or perhaps they do.

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        truth

        And yet the opposite is true….the video fits perfectly with BidenInc’s control of information via his BigTech backers…and his proudly-announced plans for monitoring personal SMS messaging to ‘prevent spread of misinformation’.

        It fits with the BigTech/FBI/Democrats’ collusion to cancel Trump and the New York Post to protect Biden in 2020…the control of speech…the fate of the ‘troublemakers’ who ‘stood out’ in their support of Trump…many of whom had their homes raided and belongings taken because of tweets…Facebook discussion…presence outside the Capitol etc etc.

        It especially fits with the BidenInc administration’s holding of political prisoners without bail …in solitary confinement for more than 6 months…many people who can only be charged with trespass or misdemeanors…unless the LW lawyers and Judges and the DeepState manage to stitch them up with worse.

        Anything can happen in BidenInc’s America….that can no longer be seen as a democracy.

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    Doc

    Horribly prescient as to what is happening in the USA currently and coming to a place near us shortly. I’ve said before, I have never seen such a callous collection of State Premiers that we have at the moment. The people seem to be totally beholden to the moves being made in the name of COVID-19, as shown in elections, but few, unless they are in small business or employed by same, wonder who is going to pay the bills in their household or State or Nation if these extreme close-downs keep going.

    Worse, how long can Banks keep holding mortgages unpaid and inflation rising around the world that influences us? What happens when the piper comes calling those households and businesses long behind in repayments? This coming huge dependency on government whose resources similarly reach unrepayable debt when interest rates rise. This is creating a huge open door for the marxists to walk in; it’s right down their alley.

    We’ve already seen what our people will vote for in WA where the current opposition, as weak in talent as it is, was all but wiped out and can be totally ignored by Mcgowan.

    So much self-indulgent ignorance and inertia in Australia resembles precisely what happened prior to WW2 when it was nazism that wanted to control the world. This time it is the marxists, and they have the added advantage of support and comfort from the non democratic world of Russia, China etc. All we have internationally, is lost old Joe Biden
    and his Democrats – the EU is disinterested due to its trade with the non-democracies.

    Unbelievedly, despite full knowledge of the Democratic election priorities, the US electorate voted them in and placed itself in the hands of a Party controlled by a cabal of people to the left of Marxism. They are already attempting to flood Republican States with illegal border migration shipments to those States as to change the voter demographics intheir favour.

    Everything happening in the USA currently was covered in the Democratic election campaign. This is what happens when your youth have learned they would prefer socialism, even marxism to living in a democracy. The USA and increasingly Australia, have their own disinterested electorates and poor leadership to blame. Cuba with the experience of 50years, 90miles from Florida, is showing it has not become so complacent nor enjoyed that experience.

    ‘Elections have consequences’. A nation irrationally blinded in antipathy and rage against one man, mostly at the hands of the profit seeking, unbelievably naive big businesses that think they will prosper even more under a centralised, international committee making their rules, and a Press that heavily censored and derided everything Trump, can only be said to be responsible for its own demise.

    Why was it so hard to get the message across over fifty years that the left was assuming control of all powerful institutions that control our democracy? It shows how weak democracy becomes when we elect self servers to Parliament whose main aim is to grab the power at any cost. All elections become auctions for which side will give the gullible public more and more, regardless of expense and cost the same public that has to repay the largesse. Again, that induced eventual poverty is all grist to the marxist’s mill.

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      Rupert Ashford

      Interesting thing for me about American politics (and here too), is the phenomenon of “suburban woman” nearly collectively turning left in their politics – left being for open borders, alphabet people, CRT, censorship, big government – and all of these things having a less than wholesome influence on and implications for children, i.e. the next generation that these “suburban woman” claim to be the mothers of. What doesn’t make sense here?

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        Dave in the States

        However, the epicenter for the push back against CRT is Louden County Virginia. That place is about the most upper middle class suburban as it can get. Both affluent and diverse. Well educated. And among the most vocal are women. Moreover, many women of color. It causes cognitive dissonance as evidenced by the NAACP spokes person in Fairfax, 5 miles to the south, exclaiming that she wished death upon those parents.

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        William Astley

        In reply to:

        The cohort US/UK/Canadian “suburban woman” nearly collectively turning left in their politics…..

        The suburban woman (any woman who has children/family to love and care for) cohort does not question or have time to question and or research subjects. They are busy working, raising families, and having fun with love ones. They are naturally good. They want to be ‘good’. And the Fake News provides a lying paradigm (CAGW so we must spend money on green stuff that does not work and so on) which they have bought, the fake 2020 election, and covid is natural.

        This is a propaganda war (China Vs the US & US allies) to destroy our countries. Suburban woman are susceptible to propaganda/lies. They believe what the Democrat Party of America/CNN tell them.

        China/Democratic party took over the mass media/Left wing and the Sneaky CCP/Democratic party of America… have weaponized left wing ideas like Gender/Climate/Green scams/immigration is now open borders/skin pigment has somehow unbelievably become ‘race’ and morphed into critical race theory.

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          Rupert Ashford

          That is a cop out with all due respect. These people claim to be emancipated and want to be treated as smart and equal. It is your personal responsibility to arm yourself with the truth and knowledge if you want to be respected. Far out I also run around 24/7 with my kids and their activities and then try to keep the home from falling apart in the small bit of time left over after all that, but I still ask questions and try to get informed beyond what the MSM bombards me with. But to have that understanding you need to understand that we are not “good” by nature even if we want to be so. You need to question the person in the mirror as well – constantly.

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        Lawrie

        Are they? The MSM would like you to believe that and so they select the “right” people to interview and put to air. In my own town my closest friends say that everyone around them is of the left but in a recent election the National member scored over half the votes with Informal coming second and the ALP third. The Greens appear to have a big presence yet get less than 10%. The silent majority is still a majority but as Tony Abbott said” If the silent majority stay silent they soon won’t be the majority”.

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      Hospitalization rates and long covid mean that we have to #1 find (and approve) a treatment, #2 shut the borders or #3 lockdown. Since we fail at #1 and #2, ergo #3 is the only option left.

      We live in a democracy. People value their health — the vast majority dont want to accept death, disease or the loss of functional hospitals. They are happy though to shut the border.

      Self evidently — if we want to stop lockdowns we need to protest at #1 and #2.

      I’m doing my best.

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      MR166

      ” they have the added advantage of support and comfort from the non democratic world of Russia, China etc. ”

      Good so far, but don’t forget to add the US educational system, including most universities, and media to the list of supporters.

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      Dave in the States

      “‘Elections have consequences’. A nation irrationally blinded in antipathy and rage against one man, mostly at the hands of the profit seeking, unbelievably naive big businesses that think they will prosper even more under a centralised, international committee making their rules, and a Press that heavily censored and derided everything Trump, can only be said to be responsible for its own demise.”

      Correction on one point, ‘stolen elections have consequences.’

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      Michael Hammer

      Your comments resonate with me as does the video. A slow takeover one small step at a time is so much harder to fight against. Where is the trigger that causes change? It was obvious to outsiders at the time that the 2020 presidential election was rigged and the evidence since has only increased. Yet even that truly massive step did not trigger a reaction. “Political correctness”, misinformation and bullying by the left quashed it.

      Similarly the liklihood that Covid came from the Wuhan lab seems to be growing and the evidence is rapidly becoming overwhelming. Whether deliberate or accidental, it has massively destabilised the west and at the very least has diverted focus from what China is doing militarily.

      Now I read this morning that China has stated if Japan makes any move to support Taiwan it (China) will use nuclear weapons (both tactical and strategic) as a first strike against Japan and continue with no offer of peace talks until Japan is utterly destroyed and will then take over that country as well.

      This is indeed sounding more and more like the years before WW2. I fear a nuclear WW3 is now next to impossible to avoid and will start this decade and possibly even early this decade. It is also not clear who will win that war.

      Our media would seem to be massively culpable in this situation. Instead of reporting dispassionately, their selective reporting of only one side and peddling of political correctness, shaming dissenters serves the leftist cause. When the media take sides they cease to be reporters and become instead political activists. The media in Australia largely and undeservedly destroyed the reputation of AstraZenica vaccine by inflating a 1 in 100,000 risk to make it sound like an utterly unacceptable risk and then using that to berate our prime minister. That massively disrupted our vaccine rollout and is causing untold damage to our economy.

      Is the forth estate becoming a fifth column? Or have I got the tense wrong?

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        Dave in the States

        Now I read this morning that China has stated if Japan makes any move to support Taiwan it (China) will use nuclear weapons (both tactical and strategic) as a first strike against Japan and continue with no offer of peace talks until Japan is utterly destroyed and will then take over that country as well.

        Wow just Wow!

        It has always been that any nuclear strike by anybody, against any ally (especially in the Western Pacific) of the US (and the UK), or neutral, would be responded to with a full nuclear retaliation. Until this year at least, such was never in question. For the CCP to make such a brazen threat against Japan means they have Biden in their back pocket, and it means they have serious designs on Free China.

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        David-of-Cooyal-in-Oz

        G’day MH,
        ” Now I read this morning that China has stated if Japan makes any move to support Taiwan it (China) will use nuclear weapons (both tactical and strategic) as a first strike against Japan and continue with no offer of peace talks until Japan is utterly destroyed and will then take over that country as well. ”

        A link, or the name of your source would be useful, even essential.

        Cheers
        Dave B

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          el gordo

          News ran the story, but its only sabre rattling. Joe Biden is behind it.

          ‘Beijing is at loggerheads with the West, and US ally Japan has had to walk a tightrope between China and the United States. But in recent weeks, after several senior Japanese officials broke with Tokyo’s traditionally neutral position to show support for Taiwan, angering Beijing, Chinese observers are asking whether Japan has chosen a side.’ (SCMP)

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          Michael Hammer

          Hi David; it was an article written by Jamie Seidel titled “China threatens to nuke Japan if country intervenes in Taiwan conflict”. Appeared in news.com.au Monday morning 19th July

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        Michael

        Reference: AstraZenica “vaccine” and “vaccine” rollout!
        Sadly, the majority of people do not verify what the legacy media, and tragically, our own Federal Government, State Government and unelected public service bureaucrats who are parroting the vaccine propaganda add nauseam.
        The so called delta variant is 10 – 20 times less in strength than the CCP virus from 15 months ago. The shrills who are doing everything they can to whip everyone into a lather of panic and fear in order to influence everyone to get a vaccine, are either, willingly, or ignorantly, promoting participation in the greatest human experiment ever!
        This unfounded panic and fear, is being fed by one of the greatest lies and deception on a global scale!

        The tragic reality is the greatest threat is from the so called “vaccines”, which are EXPERIMENTAL AND UNPROVEN, gene technology! From the manufacturers own data, states it does not prevent or provide immunisation against the CCP virus.
        In Europe, the “vaccines” have resulted in over 18,000 deaths, and approximately 1,000,000 adverse reactions. In the USA, over 9,000 deaths, and well over 400,000 adverse reactions! This is just from over 6 months since the this great experiment on humans began!

        The risk is not from the CCP virus, it is from the EXPERIMENTAL AND UNPROVEN, gene technology, that is being injected into anyone who wishes to VOLUNTARILY participitate in this world wide experiment!

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      el gordo

      ‘So much self-indulgent ignorance and inertia in Australia resembles precisely what happened prior to WW2 when it was nazism that wanted to control the world.’

      Rhe rise of Nazism was a typical European affair, with a demagogue replacing monarchial wars. Australia was drawn into the mess because of our alliance with Britain, which is why I’m advocating we drop out of the American Alliance.

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      Fuel Filter

      Speaking of Hitlers, large and small, Say his name….

      The black cop who shot Ashli Babbitt. One of the small ones. Some excerpts:

      “Generally when a cop shoots and kills an unarmed civilian, the media jumps all over it and we get the name of the cop released fairly quickly.”

      “At least that is how it works when the person shot is black.”

      “When the person shot and killed is a White woman who was murdered in cold blood during the January 6th “insurrection?”

      “Apparently the cop gets away with it without so much as a slap on the wrist.”

      “That has been the story of Ashli Babbitt, an Air Force veteran who was shot by a trigger happy black cop on January 6th. She wasn’t a threat to him but he gunned her down anyway. There weren’t multiple funerals attended by celebrities and featuring golden coffins. That is reserved for useless pieces of s*!t like George Floyd. She barely warrants mention by most of the media and her killer has been protected by the Federal government to the point of not even being named.”

      “Not anymore.”

      “Lieutenant Michael Leroy Byrd of the Capitol Police, a man who had previously been noted for leaving his loaded Glock 22 in a bathroom in the Capitol building.”

      RTWT here: https://www.arthursido.com/2021/07/say-his-name-lieutenant-michael-leroy.html

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    tonyb

    All in all, you’re just another brick in the wall

    https://genius.com/Pink-floyd-another-brick-in-the-wall-pt-2-lyrics

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      PeterS

      Only if we keep pretending to be bricks. In fact we are more than that but we need to first wake up.

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    Mark Allinson

    “A Department of Homeland Security training program has provided a model for the federal government and its armed enforcers to normalize mass public quarantine measures despite the fact infections and deaths are dropping in the U.S. A website by the Rural Domestic Preparedness Consortium (RDPC), a training provider for the Department of Homeland Security, outlines how to begin rounding up unvaccinated American citizens for mass quarantine centers.”

    https://ussanews.com/News1/2021/07/14/dhs-training-course-prepare-for-mass-public-quarantine-of-unvaccinated-rural-americans-2/

    Puts a different slant on the proposed “quarantine centres” here in Oz.

    I bet these “quarantine centres” all come equipped with lovely big shower blocks, so everyone can stay nice and clean.

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      R.B.

      Why do it?

      around 90% of newly infected people over the age of 50 are fully vaccinated.

      Vaccination has lead to about 1/6th drop serious hospitalization for the same number of injections (probably less if corrected for more young people being infected now). This is for Israel.
      https://m.jpost.com/breaking-news/for-first-time-since-march-855-new-coronavirus-cases-in-israel-674084

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        PeterS

        Why do it? Because they can. Draconian power has gone to their heads. It’s like a drug. The more power they have the more they want.

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          Saighdear

          And as I keep saying: they expect us to have a Hunger for Compliance

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            PeterS

            And as I keep saying more will be fooled and hunger for compliance.

            The masses repeatedly have been tricked into believing benevolent power actually exists and we ought to strive for it. The reality is power mad and evil leaders start off by appearing benevolent only to reveal their true colours later. Hitler is a classic example but there are many others.

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              Greg Cavanagh

              This needs to be printed in very large print at every busy intersection so people will read it.
              Well stated PeterS. Clear and succinct.

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                PeterS

                Yes that would be nice but the reality is not many people would understand it, not until it’s too late. That’s why we always eventually end up with draconian leaders throughout history. It will happen again. We never learn from the lessons of history.

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              Michael Hammer

              I think Lord Acton said it succinctly “power corrupts, absolute power corrupts absolutely”.

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                PeterS

                Yes but it’s only a small part of the big picture. It doesn’t highlight the reasons it snowballs.

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        RB
        Its the northern hemisphere summer, wait till we get through winter without more lockdowns before we break out the champagne.

        There is Dr Malone, mRNA inventor, warning about these “vaccines” and now Dr Hoffe warning on micro blood clots. (On this one the “fact check” radar is telling me there is truth here. The more the fact checkers claim its not true the more truth there is. Don’t believe me? All those Leftist fact checkers agree with the alarmists saying we have catastrophic climate change, never before seen temperatures etc.

        Somehow I think that the vaccines may cause a whole lot more issues before we are done, but covid will get the blame…then more lockdowns… Where is that Ivermectin…?

        https://gumshoenews.com/2021/07/15/dr-charles-hoffe-talks-about-microscopic-blood-clots-in-the-brain-heart-and-lungs/

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        Analitik

        R.B., how much of that is due to the Delta variant being less debilitating vs the vaccines attenuating the infection?

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    tonyb

    “If you want a picture of the future, imagine a boot stamping on a human face—for ever.”
    ― George Orwell, 1984

    Clover also notices that the wall on which the Seven Commandments were written has been repainted: Now, the wall simply reads, “ALL ANIMALS ARE EQUAL / BUT SOME ANIMALS ARE MORE EQUAL THAN OTHERS.” George Orwell Animal Farm

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      John R Smith

      They are two feet in that boot.
      The imbecile wearing the boot and the mid wit that paid for the boot.
      Both are weak, actually pathetic.
      They depend solely on convincing the public to believe a construct of lies.
      The construct of lies will inevitably collapse and the rage built up in public by that time will explode.
      And the ugliness of history repeats.

      (Tonyb, historical aside, I think maybe the internet makes no difference, it’s all social waves. In 1095 Urban issued a call to liberate the Holy Land and within four years two nearly spontaneous, self funded, waves of humans (didn’t go well for the first) had done so … when memes traveled by horse and sail. Thoughts?)

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        tonyb

        Social waves? Yes I think you have something there. In the past it was mostly religious fervour and the belief that god had ordained an action and everything was for his glory and you would find salvation.

        But there are lots of other motivations for people to think and act in social waves, of which fear is an obvious one -as with covid- and passionate ideology another, as in climate.

        AS the wave gathers force some collective instability then seems to grip people and those passions then spread to the camp followers, in the past by word of mouth-the kings messenger for instance- then by the media and now instantly by the internet.

        This hysteria has been documented for centuries and probably most famously in the book “Extraordinary Popular Delusions and the Madness of Crowds’ an early study of crowd psychology by Scottish journalist Charles Mackay, first published in 1841.

        Two quotes stand out from Mackay’s book;
        ‘Men, it has been well said, think in herds; it will be seen that they go mad in herds, while they only recover their senses slowly, and one by one.”

        ‘We find that whole communities suddenly fix their minds upon one object, and go mad in its pursuit; that millions of people become simultaneously impressed with one delusion, and run after it, till their attention is caught by some new folly more captivating than the first.”

        So in that respect we can liken social waves to real waves which gradually gather force, rise higher and higher then tumble over onto the shore only to be followed by another and another. Lets hope the climate wave is soon spent but if so what will follow it?.

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      Environment Skeptic

      George Orwell tried to warm us about this. There have been many who have tried to warm us in the past. In my opinion, history has been replete with warmings. There have been warmings globally about this.

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        MrGrimNasty

        Or is it becoming more real every day because he wrote it, a blueprint if you will?

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        Greg Cavanagh

        History itself “is” the warning. That’s whey they are changing history in schools right now.

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          PeterS

          Yes they do that but only because they want to complete the indoctrination so that an evil regime is fully implanted. It then takes another nation who hasn’t been “evilised” to fight that new evil regime, as was the case in past major wars. Who will that be next time? I think we’ve run out and so the NWO will take effect.

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    Anton

    “The Nazi Seizure of Power: The experience of a single German town” is a jusstly famous book on this subject, by W.S. Allen.

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    Old Goat

    Jordan Peterson has also spoken about how the Nazi regime became so powerfull. You just push the boundaries a little more each time and soon you have ordinary people committing atrocities and everyone cheering. When we are afraid , for most people their ethical and moral code is subverted by our hardwired desire for the survival of ourselves and the ones we love. A worldwide crash is being engineered and this will create the conditions for authoritarian rule. History repeats …….

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      Anton

      Here is what Jordan Peterson has said on the subject, almost verbatim but expanded very slightly:

      If you have been brutalised by four years in the trenches, then return to a defeated country, then your savings are wiped out by hyperinflation while communism threatens from the east, then just as you are getting on your feet again a depression increases unemployment to one in three, after which a charismatic orator tells you that you didn’t really lose that war but your armed forces were stabbed in the back and the people who were secretly responsible for it are living among you, and he will make your nation great again, then you are likely to fall for his views.

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    Saighdear

    Oh, Jo, this is TERRIBLY thought provoking stuff. and going back to the War, ….. If only ifonly if only... but I have moths to feed, ( & mouths too!) Taxes to pay, Bills to pay. A LIFE to live! Animals to feed, crops to spray and harvest. Just no time to protest. Live too far away to protest. Excuses ? Long hours on the Tractor seat or speaking to the Cattle at the troughin the Winter time …. maketh Jack a dull boy? NO? he has plenty time to THINK and reason out – but in a Nation governed by Idiots …. ( late night re-watching “Braveheart” ) could make one VERY obstinate & Bullish towards Authority. …. bt is it worth losing one’s head for it? So you live in Northern Central Europe and get flooded out, – because …..and the blamegame sets in. MAaybe the Gov’ts and Media should be spending more time INSPECTING how countries are run for our safety – and not dancing around imagined threats of Climate and viruses.

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      PeterS

      There is no profit in inspecting how countries are run for safety. Profit motives drive climate change projects, mass vaccinations, wars and various other unsafe pursuits.

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    dk_

    The reading seems to be straight from the 1966 book, which I was required to read in high school. But the video is modern propaganda. There is probably a copyright problem with this, since the book is still in recent republication and the video is not apparently made with the authors’ or publisher’s permission. Perhaps this is why you can’t find it elsewhere.

    Late in the video there are very unsubtle inclusions of modern “right” news clips interspersed with the Nazi films, and no inclusions of modern, so-called “leftist” attrocities and propaganda. No BLM, no Portland or other U.S. or U.K. riots, none of the climate extinction demonstrations or anti-free speech of the new orthodoxy.

    Even while decrying Nazi propaganda, the modern “Thought They Were Free” video (really a multi-media collage) engages in a modern version with seemingly quite similar ideological and political goals in mind.

    The only other YouTube presentation from the same channel is a reading from Kurt Vonnegut’s 1964 “God Bless You Mr. Rosewater.” In that video, the reading is presented as a testimonial about present day wealth inequality, instead of as an allegorical speech from a character in a book, written with Vonnegut’s somewhat damaged, socialist, outlook and sharp critical humor.

    I happen to like Vonnegut, but he is an acquired taste, and don’t think much of anything he wrote about is really pertinent to even his contemporary yet alone modern politics. He didn’t endorse communism, as the video seems to imply.

    Taking, and slanting, excerpts from these books in such a way is a disservice to both works of literature, and a deliberate falsehood. If either video isn’t a copyright violation, maybe they ought to be.

    So sorry, not a fan, Jo, as both YouTube offerings are recent videos cut with the propaganda of the modern “left” using un-original interpretations of someone else’s work.

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    David Maddison

    One of the greatest propaganda coups the Left ever pulled was to present Nazism and Fascism as of the “right”, not the Left. The logic was that anyone of the right was automatically more evil as they were closer to these two evil ideologies than the Left. Therefore, Left was good, right was bad.

    In fact Nazism and Fascism have the same ideological roots as Marxism/Communism but one is National Socialism and the other International Socialism.

    The philosopher behind it all has been written out of history by the Left. His name is Giovanni Gentile. It is discussed by Dinesh D’Souza.

    https://www.bitchute.com/video/vCWR4PjmUREF/

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    Broadie

    My search for your video lead to this.

    There is no conspiracy, we are simply being directed to demonstrate our submission to the ‘New Normal’.

    So far this beats bringing your children to the High priest to have their hearts ripped out on the Altar to the Sun God in order to guarantee a good harvest.

    You are very brave Jo. I hope we can keep the ‘window’ open long enough for the High Priests to rip each others hearts out in the struggle to be the last Totalitarian standing.

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      David Maddison

      I made a comment on another site in relation to the climate fraud to the effect that the ancients used to practice human sacrifice to try and change the climate and the reply I got from a Leftist was that there was no evidence that the Aztecs ever practiced human sacrfice.

      There is no credible scholarly claim that I have heard that the the Aztecs didn’t practice human sacrifice.

      But since the Left are constantly rewriting history, keep a look out for this historical fact to be “revised”.

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        Broadie

        Cortes letters to the King

        they take many boys or girls, and even grown men and women, and in the presence of those idols they open their breasts, while they are alive, and take out the hearts and entrails, and burn the said entrails and hearts before the idols, offering that smoke in sacrifice to them. Some of us who have seen this say that it is the most terrible and frightful thing to behold that has ever been seen.

        I would normally rely on that as a source document only the descriptions we have received of the deaths by Covid19 seem to be worse and yet those testing positive appear to be able to renovate, exercise and drink coffee, visiting nearly 10 venues a day! Difficult to trust expert opinion nowadays.

        Despite the interpretation Cortes was justifying his own atrocities and those of his Indian allies, he was concerned for the Mexicans and asked the King not to send Solicitors and to request the Franciscans as they lived with the locals and did not grow rich exploiting them.

        He appears to have had it in for parasites!

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        James Murphy

        That’s the problem really. a lot of people cannot, or refuse to comprehend that human cultures have been radically different to what we classify as “acceptable” today. Then, just because they feel emotional about it, and they are inherently self-centred and think they know what’s best for everyone else (because, to them, “the masses” are ignorant brain-dead drones), they get into positions of authority where they can force changes on the rest of us.

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    GlenM

    I remember a few of my antecedents who migrated to Australia post-war 2 telling me that life 8n Germany during the 1930s as the best of times. Fun and hope for a good future – a country full of adventure compared to the stagnation of the previous decade. They were great admirers of Hitler until they found the truth. The truth was hard to find.

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    Antoine D’Arche

    Every single person who desires freedom must hold a firearms licence. We’re already the largest voting bloc in this country. The bigger the better.

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      Kalm Keith

      Is it really that simple.

      Using my home of NovoCastria as an example, the citizens of this town have stood by as waves of users used incremental manipulation to acquire and profit from influence and control in high places.

      What do you shoot at?

      Our local government now has a city representative flying to United Bloody Nations conferences overseas while the basic issue of potholes in the roads and streets is put aside until funds are available.

      One young “connected” climber had worked himself into a position with a salary of over $400,000 a year when his basic skills might possibly get home a quarter of that in the real world.

      And the rorting continues with a new, modern Taj Mahal rising above the dummies who fund it.

      Sadly, most of those being exploited can’t see or understand that they are being abused.

      Council rates collection might be a problem for a while now following the CV19 lockdowns. The number of empty shops, offices and other business premises points to serious financial concerns for many citizens and ultimately The Council.
      And don’t mention the Dockyard, the perfect example of how to use and damage and destroy the goodwill of the average worker for personal gain for the few.

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        MP

        How about we start at mass protests, mass non compliance. Start by being more concerned about what we can see, then by what we can’t see.
        Start by believing what we know to be real, rather then what we are told is real.

        What do you shoot at?

        They will the ones shooting at you.

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          el gordo

          Thankfully we have strict gun controls in Oz, only gangsters and the authorities have weapons.

          ‘Start by believing what we know to be real, rather then what we are told is real.’

          This has been the problem down the ages and let me assure you that the Utopian Socialists are working towards a definitive solution.

          Adolph went to jail for his beliefs and when released he followed the democratic path, but got few votes. Then came the Wall Street Crash which gave the demagogue a boost in popularity.

          Keep in mind you have a minority voice in society and there won’t be any mass protests.

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            MP

            Utopian Socialists, Minority voice. That small a minority they don’t exist except in your head.

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              el gordo

              The USP is a shadowy group and difficult to define, but they can be recognised by their optimistic viewpoint.

              The green left and far right are a pessimistic lot, they are in the majority.

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    David Maddison

    Interestingly this was posted on the date 9th Av in the Hebrew luni-solar calendar, a day when many great tragedies have befallen the Jewish people such as the destruction of both Temples (the first by Nebuchadnezzar in 586BCE and the second by the Romans in 70CE) and the crushing of the Bar Kokhba revolt, by the Roman Turnus Rufus in 135 CE.

    In more modern times on this same Hebrew date 2nd Aug 1941 Heinrich Himmler formally received approval from the Nazi Party for “The Final Solution”.

    On 23rd July 1942 (again, the same Hebrew date) Nazis started deporting Jews from the Warsaw Ghetto to Treblinka for mass murder.

    Again today we see the rise of the Left along with their antisemitism. They don’t identify as Nazis and don’t wear the same uniforms but their underlying ideologies are just the same and the consequences will be just as devastating.

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    Rupert Ashford

    Like Jordan Petersen says in his videos. 80% of us today, who claim to be abhorred by what the Nazis did, would have enthusiastically become members of the Nazi party if we lived in Germany of those days. We are not half as smart or pious as we think or claim to be. We see it play out in front of us.

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      James Murphy

      Just report that neighbour to the authorities, it’s only 1 person, and they deserve to be punished. Of course this is the exception, I wont do it again…

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    Flok

    I am just one man.
    I hold just one vote.
    I only kneel to one God in my prayer.
    I look next to me I see those kneeling in true faith and I smile, I am not alone.

    Where are we? Flying through the cosmos on a planet we know somethings about just as much we know about ourselves. Let’s settle for much less in that understanding for now.

    As species of this planet, we have leaped through time to develop in taught ignorance. Our actions are reactive in such high development. We are progressing yet we are leaving ourselves behind.

    This new roaming animal of a human hasn’t got a name, it cannot recognise itself. It has gone too far from basic needs and it has embraced a machine instead of own mother.

    As we avidly read we are not realising that this time in history we are more connected than ever before.

    If our ancestors had the same access to global connectivity what would our today look like?

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    Jim

    Interesting. Another attempt to redefine history of the world. Was or were the Nazi’s fun to live under? Were they profitable for the masses? Or as the leaders did they fight imaginary foes? Enslave their workers, and create institutions of pogams, just as their political rivals.
    I cannot tell, my relatives left the countries involved early. When they saw religious and political control going to a few, the corrupt few leaders. They sold everything to escape the repeat of history. A few did not make it. A few had to stay behind the curtain.
    In the United States, we just had a few, revolt, to overthrow the will of the people. Was it fair? They were working for the same few people who say people do not count or matter. That two plus two equal five. That feed misinformation. That say only they count or should be counted, other ideals are wrong. They are not of the people, a shame, that we have to listen to the same ideas that created strife in the last century. Walking down that same road again. Did we not learn from the last encounter, that hate creates hate, freedom for one, does not create freedom for all.

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    JD

    I think the current situation in South Africa might be more relevant than Germany 70 years ago.

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      Kalm Keith

      Or, are they the same thing?

      When will they ever learn.

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        MP

        Bet their are a lot of people in South Africa glad for their right to own large calibre, semi auto rifles with large capacity magazines.

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          MP

          Bet there are a lot of people in South Africa glad for their right to own large calibre, semi auto rifles with large capacity magazines.

          Any chance of getting the above 21.1.1 purged.

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            Kalm Keith

            I think that I’ve asked you this before.

            Please don’t misrepresent me.

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              MP

              Misrepresent, then I shall present what you said.

              Why haven’t politicians risen to the task of cleaning up criminals, taking their guns away and putting those unregistered firearm holders in gaol. (so your a criminal for the crime of un-government registered weapons and should be in Jail, because the government made it so)(peace be upon them)

              Like many others I would prefer to live in a society where only the police had guns but at the moment there are areas of Sydney and Melbourne which are seemingly left by politicians who need the votes and as a consequence the public suffers. (you want the people you yourself state are corrupt to be the only gun holders)

              If I lived on an isolated farm I would like to have a gun and no doubt many living in those city areas would be justified in wanting one.

              The police would also be a lot happier if criminals were disarmed but it’s a political matter so status quo. (Which police, the ones in Melbourne, Sydney, the ones with guns strapped to their sides, attack dogs, batons and riot gear to police people walking in parks exercising their rights.

              There are many benefits to having a gun free society, especially when people get a bit down; a number of farmers might still be with us if the government had been considerate in managing their predicament and if guns hadn’t seemed to be the nearest option. (lets ban guns cause people commit suicide, no guns no suicide?)

              Remember Del Shannon. (Cause he would be alive today except “guns”)

              Give up my right because you don’t use it. How have you been directly effected by any firearm holder. (I know the answer)

              I understand what you wrote.

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                Kalm Keith

                MP.

                That’s a melange of conflated fluff.

                All that’s happening is that you are using my specific comments about guns in the community to launch a non related blast about guns.

                When was the last time you used your registered/unregistered gun to confront a dishonest, slimey, underhanded politician; ever? If so, did it fix the problem.

                As to the last question; do you know Glenrock Lagoon?

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                MP

                Yes I was using your specific comments.

                When was the last time you used your registered/unregistered gun to confront a dishonest, slimey, underhanded politician; ever? If so, did it fix the problem.

                That’s a melange of conflated fluff.

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                Kalm Keith

                So, you don’t know Glenrock and you have never used your “weapons” to sort out the corrupt politicians in our country who are robbing us blind.

                Since you claim to have read all of my comments you would understand that I would fully endorse the ownership of protective weapons for those who are likely to be targeted and who do not have nearby police available.

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                MP

                Glenrock Lagoon?

                The 200 years ago bit, the Coal bit, the convicts had guns bit?

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                MP

                KK. What have you done to “to sort out the corrupt politicians in our country who are robbing us blind.” or is this my job?

                Good to be employed again.

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                Kalm Keith

                You really are thick.

                The club wasn’t open that day, and they were limited to shot guns.

                Obviously there’s a big difference between the report of what was most likely a 22 and a shot gun.

                It was funny running along the track half way up that hill and listening to the rain of lead pellets in the bush nearby when they were shooting clay targets.

                Bang bang.

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                MP

                Yep I am no Einstein.
                So I am also supposed to know the gun club was closed that day, you have added gun shots to the detail and defined the calibre, I am supposed to know all this from before I was born…how?

                You knowingly run along a track under a hail of lead shot and I am the thick one.

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              Kalm Keith

              In 1964 I was running along the southern edge of Glenrock and two bullets landed in the water only two or three yards from me.
              The shots obviously came from high up on the opposite hill adjacent to the Gun Club.

              And the other bit? No answer, you are starting to sound like an echo chamber.

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                MP

                How the hell am I supposed to know that before I was born, you had two splashes 2 to 3 yards from you that you assumed were projectiles that you assumed came from high up from a gun club, are you an expert in trajectory? Having shot at gun clubs I doubt that, very strict safety rules, you are only allowed to shoot in one direction large back stop, one accidental discharge and they kick you off the range.
                Glenrock indeed.

                The echo is your own words bouncing around.

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          Rupert Ashford

          The populace in South Africa are not allowed to own large calibre, semi-automatic rifles with large capacity magazines. Those are mainly illegal, even though there are a high number of it in circulation and I would venture mainly in the hands of the ones that are driving the riots and looting. You are allowed to own semi-automatic handguns though, but they hardly pass for large calibre in the sense you are referring to I’d guess. I think the largest semi-auto handguns sold over there are 45s. You can get 357 Magnum in revolvers.

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    Nezysquared

    The biggest enabler for ever increasing government control is the welfare state. It’s gravitational force pulls in those whose incomes become ever more marginal and require assistance to meet future needs. Think about the implications of the stealth tax we call inflation. Questioning the same government who provides this sustenance / protection risks an eventual reduction in support and hence they create a captive and submissive society. Worked very well for Labor in the last state election in WA. Sadly many of those within this sphere of influence are from the lower socio economic groups who are either unable or unwilling to question as a result of generally lower intelligence. When a majority of the voting population are nett beneficiaries of the welfare system you don’t need to be a rocket scientist to work out where this will end….

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      Broadie

      Interestingly the thin edge of the wedge is the National Health Systems. This introduction of bureaucratic madness and waiting lists was ushered into Australia by the Fabian Socialist Bill Hayden. Bill like the Chief Health Officer in Queensland was rewarded with a Governorship for his destruction of what had been one of the finest Public Health systems in the world.
      Bureaucratic control of welfare leads to the surrender of liberty by the individual.
      So once you have finished queuing for your Genetic Modification to produce a stick protein that may cross the blood brain barrier or the placenta, you should cross to the queue for the squirt of eucalyptus that will solve most health problems like in the Soviet Era.

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      Sceptical Sam

      It shows no such thing.

      You clearly have not read the paper or have failed to understand it.

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        PeterS

        Clearly you didn’t listen to the whole presentation.

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          Sceptical Sam

          Clearly you didn’t read the paper published by the Lancet group, on which his nonsense is based.

          The lead in sentence gives his game away:

          Professor Bhakdi refers to new studies published by The Lancet which show that this is not such an unusual virus that the body does not recognize. It responds to the virus quickly showing vaccination is not necessary.

          The study (not studies) that he based his nonsense on, does not show that “vaccination is not necessary”. All it shows is that SARS-CoV-2 elicits robust adaptive immune responses regardless of disease severity. That’s all.

          How did Nielsen et al ​detect this outcome?

          By testing people who survived the disease. The study makes no reference to mortality. If they died, they weren’t available to test.

          And fancy? The survivors elicited an adaptive immune response. That’s what bodies do. If they survive.

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            PeterS

            So you have done similar studies and know more than he does. Where are your papers? What are your credentials?

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              Sceptical Sam

              Trite response.

              I suggest you closely read the study Bhakti relied on as the hook onto which he unsuccessfully tried to hang his ill-fitted cap.

              My credentials? You’ve lost the argument with such a silly rejoinder.

              But, for what it’s worth, I’m a graduate of a top Australian university with final year in non-parametric statistics and research design. I’ve spent my working life assessing the integrity of turkeys trying to sell their idiocies. Bhakdi is just the latest of hundreds.

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              Sceptical Sam

              Bhakdi? Now there’s a scam artist.

              And, you don’t do too badly yourself, with your pushing of your paranoid propaganda.

              Unfortunately for you, on this site at least, people are capable of thinking, and making their own assessments.

              I note that you have not countered with a skerrick of additional information in support of the nonsense you promote.

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        Broadie

        Dear Sam,

        I agree on your comment highlighting that Bhakdi was very general in his reference to support for his argument.
        Your credentials may be helpful.

        I’m a graduate of a top Australian university with final year in non-parametric statistics and research design.

        Just for the information of the people who follow this blog.

        By testing people who survived the disease. The study makes no reference to mortality. If they died, they weren’t available to test.

        And fancy? The survivors elicited an adaptive immune response. That’s what bodies do. If they survive.

        What is the test for this disease? How many replications do you calculate are required to determine the presence of the virus? What is the control used to calibrate these ‘Gold Standard’ tests?

        My understanding from viewing a previous Bhakdi video was he was of the opinion that it would be nearly impossible to draw any statistical conclusions regarding this Pandemic as >99% of those testing positive were asymptomatic.

        Bhakdi is clearly concerned and has used the only technique available in the absence of any statistics either way. We can only go on the information we are being presented. Right from the beginning the University of Washington Virology Department has presented Covid19 as ~5% of those presenting with P&I symptoms and it appears excess mortality is unrelated to the variant.

        With no information either way he can come up with a hypothesis based on the information at hand? The correct phrase he maybe should have used was, “Expert Opinion based on the Science”.

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      Lucky

      I read the article and looked at the links. The article well written is quite unconvincing. The links are difficult and not convincing.
      I think the main premises are wrong.
      I did not (and do not) listen to any presentation.

      I started out being sympathetic from the title. After the above my opinions have not changed at all.
      The current vaccinations necessary or not, may have a place if they worked and were safe.
      Prof. Bhakdi provides no enlightenment on the issue.

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    Serge Wright

    Perhaps the best description of Wokeism is that it is reverse Nazism. Nazism used nationalism to foster support for the extremism and blamed the Jewish migrants for their problems, whereas Wokeism rejects nationalism and supports migrants and minority groups, blaming their plight on the incumbent culture. However, despite one being the reverse of the other, they use the same tools, such as indoctrination of the children in schools and universities, the censorship of speech and the rewriting of history, etc. Certainly both of these ideologies are seen as religions by their followers and the level of the extreme belief in the ideologies means that followers cane easily be made to perform violent acts which are viewed as worthy and righteous, such as we saw with the BLM riots that raged across the USA last year.

    I think it’s important to do the Nazism / Wokeism comparison, as it allows us to understand where Wokeism is going and how it will end if we allow it to continue. IMO – Wokeism is really just a tool that is being used to bring about the great reset to Marxism. Its goal is the create division and hatred within society and to destroy the systems of learning and the culture that underpins western democracies. It is no coincidence that every claimed ill within society is caused by white people, because white people are the ones that perpetuate western society and culture around the globe. What is certain about Wokeism is that it will be terminated once the great reset has occurred because it’s not a real ideology, but simply a tool being used to bring about Marxism. We know this because China is the proof, being a Marxist country and we note that China can do what it wants when it comes to CO2 emissions and abuse of human rights, including on minority groups. Once Marxism is established you can expect that all land and assets will be confiscated by the state, including those held by Indigenous people, which are ironically the ones that are given maximum privilege and reward under Wokism. As we already see in China, Marxism is all about providing for the ruling elites and the rest of the people are the working slaves that are permanently oppressed and fed BS propaganda to maintain status quo.

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      John R Smith

      “I think it’s important to do the Nazism / Wokeism comparison”.
      Me too.
      How much is cultural trend and how much is propaganda fabrication?
      Seems like an important aspect is fanaticism.
      Adulation of a leader can cause fanaticism.
      Trump derangement syndrome seems to have produced the new fanatics.
      One can debate with a Trump supporter, anti-Trump folk have a fanaticism like I’ve never experienced and is frightening.
      I am careful to avoid even a tangential reference to politics around them.
      And it my experience the most educated are the most uniformed and most vulnerable to TDS.

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        PeterS

        Fanaticism is just an extreme and often unquestioning enthusiasm, devotion, or zeal for something. That something can be for good or evil, or both depending on the stage of their agenda being played out. As such it’s often impossible to know up front if people are doing good or bad when they start being fanatical about their pursuits. Eventually though their true colours come to light by their fruits; they will be clearly either good or bad. Some of us can detect the direction earlier than others based on experience and historical knowledge. As fas as I’m concerned we have far too many people in high places who are of the evil form of Fanaticism and not enough of the good ones. The balance is going the wrong way as well and eventually things will get really scary.

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      Kalm Keith

      🙂 🙂 🙂

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    CHRIS

    One of the Nazi’s core values was “Strength through Joy”, which attempted to unite the German people with the message that Germany was superior to other nations. As with all totalitarian dictatorships, the Nazis kept the truth from the German people. This was especially true in late 1942/early 1943, when the German Sixth Army was surrounded and eventually annihilated at Stalingrad. This was the beginning of the end of Germany, but the ordinary German had no idea (until the Russians were at the gates of Berlin).

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    Environment Skeptic

    There was plenty of warmings. How many warmings are needed for people to see?? No excuse as we have been warmed too often in the past by those who are knowledgeable in such matters.

    This is a wake up call and we have been warmed 🙂

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    Lucky

    At that time, in that country, it was possible to leave.
    Now, year 2021, in Australia, who can leave?

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      OriginalSteve

      It appears the reason is to ensure no one can escape their nasty little vaccines. They are even flying docs into remote communities to ensure the depop agenda moves forward….its thorough.

      Hype the danger beyond reality and peopkes minds get bushwhacked into going into an emotional response rather than a logical one. Its also called Trauma Based Mind Control, where you create an emotional impact so significant, the subject is rendered mentally disabled and left in a disoriented state – this emotive state is then maintained by the hype in the media. If the media is shut down , the effect stops.

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        el gordo

        Your grasp of political science is woeful.

        The MSM in Oz is alive and well, Murdoch gives us a voice and eventually it’ll work out fine.

        With the vaccines, its my right to remain unvaccinated and that is how it will pan out.

        A lot of people here seem to think history repeats itself. A hundred years ago a young man with artistic talent was paid to become an agent provocateur in a small radical group, the rest is history.

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          Kalm Keith

          “A hundred years ago a young man with artistic talent was paid to become an agent provocateur in a small radical group, the rest is history.”

          Why bring Bob Hawke into this?

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            el gordo

            Much amusement, Bob was a man of letters without (back in the day) artistic talent.

            In the modern era Adolf could have become a graphic designer or architectural draftsman, but instead (back in the day) he became a megalomaniac and mass murderer.

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          OriginalSteve

          I have quite a good grasp of how the world actually really works, political science is theoretical at best.

          This is why we have Sydney and Melbourne in lockdown again , to bludgeon the sheeple around the head, so they take the nasty little globalist but vax. If you think about it, it appears to be systemic abuse of the entire population.

          My cousin in Melbourne was relaying that a few of his compatriots had taken thier lives because of the oppressive and crushing covid lockdowns. The human cost, that the globalist thugs in control would be well aware of, is being ignored, thus is the strength of thier sat.anist convictions and need to push thier twisted and corrupt agenda forward.

          Its worth pointing out that covid itself is a nuisance, and not much worse than a bad flu in terms of deaths.

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            PeterS

            Whether it is by design or by accident, there is most definitely an agenda going on to convert the West into some dictatorial and evil regime. My understanding is it’s both by design and by accident, depending on who it is. The followers of Hitler were not all clueless and gullible. Many were just as evil, if not more so. Murdering millions of men, women and children just because they had some physical deformity doesn’t come about naturally. That’s pure evil.

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            el gordo

            Yeah well, lockdowns are for the common good, herd immunity.

            Who are these globalist thugs you talk of? There is no universal conspiracy, its a complete mist mash as usual. Petty conflicts between humans with weapons of mass destruction.

            Which is why the galactic brotherhood is offering us the opportunity to think before destroying our beautiful planet.

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          MP

          Coming from someone who can’t carry a point of view the length of a sentence.

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          GlenM

          We got one-sided reporting on the GBR in the Australian today. Only spouted reef alarmism from agriculture and global warming. 80% crap from Murdoch. Read Ergas on Friday and a few others. A dismal newspaper generally.

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    Mike-SMO

    Facts should not be viewed in isolation. Compton, California was a successful experiment. The Hispanic invaders colonized Compton and drove the Ghetto People into the surround. Those that survived, anyway. The destruction of the urban centers by the Democratic Antifa(BLM) clears the ground for the new crop. The new crop of illegals whose purpose is to drive the Ghetto people into the suburban surround to preserve the investment in property and infrastructure owned by the financiers. And there is a lot of grift in even a primitive economy even after the gangs get their “cut”.

    The attacks on firearms ownership are designed to prevent the suburbs from resisting the Ghetto flood. In South Africa, it didn’t take much to blunt the looting in selected areas. I enjoyed the description of the elderly “Indian” woman carreying a “cane-machette”, which sounds like what would be called a “sling blade”, or “Kaiser Blade”, or, maybe a “brush hook”, back in the west. There were lots of “goodies” in the shop, but not too many of the potential looters were willing to discuss terms with the old gal. “Zulu” are savages, but they aren’t dumb.

    If the suburbs resist and/or scare off the Ghetto People, the plan will fail and the city corruptocrats will have two dependant populations and endless ethnic/racial wars. Thus the White suburbs must be disarmed.

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      PeterS

      It’s starting to look like getting rid of Apartheid wasn’t enough, and matters are becoming worse than before simply because they didn’t go to the next step and take seriously the expression from and the meaning by Thomas Jefferson when he stated “all men are created equal”. Just getting rid of Apartheid and doing nothing else is like letting the cat out of the bag amongst the pigeons.

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        Rupert Ashford

        Please elaborate? What are you suggesting – the Zim option or true economic development as opposed to a typical African kleptocracy?

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          PeterS

          I’m saying what is clear from the events that followed on from the moment that Apartheid was ended, and rightly so. It’s not enough. Equality goes both ways. At the moment they have a form of reverse Apartheid, which is just as evil. When are people going to treat each other the same way regardless of their skin colour, etc.? Never by the looks of it. Another example is that by normal standards of reasoning and logic, the BLM movement and all who support it are racists.

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    OriginalSteve

    The whole covid scam collapses once people realize that while it does have some occasional unusual side effects, the core boogeyman component, its dangerousness is actually not much worse than a bad flu.

    Turn off the tv and media and no one would really notice its impact. And this is the reason why its always screaming at you from the “news” and the “newsreaders” are just appear to be paid vaccination pushers….

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      PeterS

      So true. The mania over the virus using lockdowns and widespread vaccinations is completely disproportion to the facts, much like the mania over climate change. The world has certainly gone mad, not in a funny way but in an evil sense. To keep the tempo up and fool more and more people, the next scare will have to be even bigger, and the “solution” far more disproportionate and evil.

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      John R Smith

      Seems like the clock to watch is France.

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        PeterS

        The mass protests against the coerced vaccinations are increasing in size and frequency – except here in Australia where we remain silent and instead praise our “leaders” for locking us down again and again, or at the most just whinge and whine about it. I wonder how many times we will have lockdowns before Australians join the real world and rise up? I suspect never since we tend to be an aloof mob of people, with a few exceptions that can’t make a difference.

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          el gordo

          Ummm … the government has a plan to phase out lockdowns within due course, patience and perseverance is required until the clusters are stamped out.

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            Analitik

            And the plan is….. VACCINATE, VACCINATE, VACCINATE, VACCINATE, VACCINATE!!!!

            One wonders how they will pivot when they have to face up to the infection of large numbers of those fully vaccinated?

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            PeterS

            Yes I know their game plan and you just proved my point. Coerced vaccinations are not the right solution to the virus but is the right solution for using Classical Conditioning to steer us to accepting a dictatorship.

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            GlenM

            I’m about to reject my social contract very soon. Government has failed at every level and excel at obscurantist nonsense. Put myself in the best position for the unraveling and watch. What a waste of a good country.

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          Analitik

          Yep, I’m getting harassed by relatives for not getting “the jab”.
          The government fear campaign is hugely successful given our population’s ignorance of what is occurring on the ground overseas.

          Yet another cut of the thousands that will eventually sever our freedom

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            OriginalSteve

            Be prepared to lose family members as the vaccine starts its work, is all I woukd say. The true awfulness of the vaccines is that the more jabs people have, appears to have a compoundibg and accelerating affect, which appears to be the design.

            Stay away from the vaccine. It seems the globalists think in terms of decades, so 40+ years of training a population to jab itself and its children regularly pavlovian style, has lead up to unthinking obedience right now, where the money shot is….if you look around the place, covid itself is relatively harmless, yet were are subject to 24×7 pro-vax harrassment via the media. Does this not seem unbalanced and other worldly and nightmarish? I suspect any invaded population watching the na*ies march in and set up camp and start ordering the population around would have thought the same as us right now….we have been occupied but its happened at a blitzkrieg pace and people’s brains deliberately overloaded so they stop thinking abd just obey….by design…

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              Analitik

              Novavax seems the one to hold out for if we absolutely need to get vaccinated since it uses recombinant nanoparticles for a broader response rather than only being a spike protein vaccine.

              Then again, it’s yet another new tech vaccine with emergency approval so the actual rollout (as opposed to the limited trial results) still needs to be monitored.

              Still, I’d rather be fortified by existing medications and supplements to deal with the disease.

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                Analitik

                Sorry, it seems that Novavax is still a spike protein vaccine but it is a direct injection of these (from an insect cell) rather than getting your cells to grow them. Also the injected spike proteins arrange themselves in a manner similar to the surface of a coronavirus so the body recognizes the structure as well as the protein.

                There is (promo) video here that demonstrates the concept

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                David Maddison

                The good think about Novavax is that it doesn’t turn your body into a spike protein factory. With Novavax your body can only react to produce antibidies to what’s injected, nothing more. In that sense it is more like a traditional vaccine approach.

                Drbeen speaks favourably of Novavax.

                https://youtu.be/Q00lyd3gyy4

                Supposedly the Australian Government has ordered doses of this but how accessible it will be to thinking people, I don’t know.

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                Analitik

                Millions of doses have been contracted by our government since Novavax was one of the original 3 selected vaccines should it should be widely available once approved.

                According to the RACGP site, it should be available somewhere between 3 months from now and early next year. The emergency approval hasn’t been given overseas yet so our TGA has nothing to work on.

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              MP

              Yep, I’m getting harassed by relatives for not getting “the jab”.
              The government fear campaign is hugely successful given our population’s ignorance of what is occurring on the ground overseas.

              Either way the injection will do its job.

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            David Maddison

            I don’t like the expression “the jab”. The social engineers use this expression because it sounds innocent and playful.

            I call it The Injection which far more effectively conveys the fact that you are being treated with a little tested unconventional “vaccine” with unknown long term or other side effects and for which manufacturers have been exempted from liability.

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              PeterS

              In time it might be referred to as menticide, and even genocide.

              menticide:
              the systematic effort to undermine and destroy a person’s values and beliefs, as by the use of prolonged interrogation, drugs, torture, etc., and to induce radically different ideas.

              Isn’t this exactly what our Western governments are doing? Of course it is. All that remains to be seen is will they end up committing genocide as defined under our current international rule of law. Time will tell.

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              Tides of Mudgee

              David M, an article in today’s Telegraph reports on a “leading epidemiologist” Tony Blakely who says it is a “no brainer” to vaccinate Aussie kids against Covid-19. It also states that “Australia’s drug regulator considers giving the jab the green light for children as young as 12.” And further “I’m assuming by the end of this year it’ll be licensed for 5 – 12 year olds as well”. Again this was described as a “no-brainer”. He adds, “although there were some concerns about inflammation around the heart” he expected most parents would opt to vaccinate their child. Yeah let’s not worry about heart inflammation in little kids, just get it into’em. Perhaps having no brain is the solution.

              This is apparently why they’re working hard on a vaccine for Strep A (it is thought it will take 5 – 10 years at least, fancy that). Strep A is highly virulent and subverts innate and acquired immunity and can lead to rheumatic heart disease in children. ToM

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              Analitik

              How about “the shot” ?

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        James Murphy

        Protests are normal for France though. 100000 people is not that many, unfortunately.

        The new rules by Macron are incredibly harsh if you ask me, needing papers to travel outside the metropolitan area, to eat, or have a beer at a cafe, to visit a museum.

        In places outside of large cities, the only real options left for food are shopping malls, places where, next month, you’ll have to have papers to be able to go about your daily business. If you aren’t vaccinated, you can get a PCR test, but you’ll have to pay for them yourself now.

        Last year they the announced that they wanted to make it compulsory to have papers to use public transport, but so far, thankfully, this is not the case (would not be surprised if it happens though).

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    Kevin T Kilty

    The transformation of Weimar Germany took place quite quickly — from January to late Spring 1933 essentially. The Reichstag fire was a pivotal event, and the enabling laws the final coup. Now a building is not a nation or a “democracy”, but the NSDAP would have had Germans believe otherwise, and the U.S. Democrats would would have Americans believe otherwise, too. The people making the biggest noise about the Reichstag fire were the NSDAP, and those trying to make the most of the “insurrection” of January 6 are the Democrats. Democrats have often told us, explicitly, they operate on the principle of never let a crisis go to waste. The crisis needn’t even be real. The Reichstag fire and the riot of January 6 are full of unknowns — were the NAZIs involved in setting the fire? We don’t know but suspect so. Were elements of BLM, Antifa, FBI, Capitol police or other groups involved in the January 6 riot? Well, if the Reichstag fire offers any guidance we will probably never know this either, but there are many suspicious observations.

    People have described the Democrats’ new voting laws H.R.1 and S.1 as a “federalization” of U.S. Elections; but, in fact, they are more accurately a Democratic party take over of elections because once the ludicrous standards of those laws are in place all important elections forevermore will be decided by late arriving votes that have been collected, harvested, by urban political machines. They are a near equivalent to enabling laws.

    That the politically left people on this site, who appear to be Australians, can weigh-in from half-way round the planet on how resisting these laws is just an effort by “right-wing” people trying to suppress minority votes only underscores the abject ignorance and duplicity of the world-wide left. Period.

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    David Maddison

    I could never understand how normal people embraced Nazism. Hitler was even legally elected, assuming there was no election fraud and I have never seen fraud claimed.

    Now thanks to the Anthropogenic Global Warming fraud and Covid, I can see how easily people are manipulated by politicians and the main stream media.

    The Nazis were elected when normal people had better quality education than they have today, had more general knowledge and knew more history, had (un)common sense and when the main stream media more or less did their job.

    Today the “education” is appalling and Leftist oriented from K to university, people have poor general knowledge and know little, if any, history and the main stream media and the billionaire-owned social(ist) media work in collusion with the Left.

    It is terrifying what might happen if a Leftist charismatic leader arises, which they will, sooner or later.

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      GlenM

      Normal people voted for a strong leader who got things done. Back to work, remiltarise the Rhineland, build autobahns etc. And to get rid of indecision in government. That is why Putin is respected.

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    another ian

    History says

    ““Issue assignats” is always the answer to the economic ignoramuses of the left”

    https://catallaxyfiles.com/2021/07/19/issue-assignats-is-always-the-answer-to-the-economic-ignoramuses-of-the-left/

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    Kalm Keith

    The acronyms.

    MAGA and AM and AMV and GOBO have been backgrounded and are ready for action.

    The tide is at the beginning of the beginning of the turn.

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      Kalm Keith

      Make Angela Go Away, The EU.

      Allez MaCron. The French.

      Allez MaCron Vite. The exasperated French.

      GO BORIS. The British.

      The scale of arousal around the world with BLM, defund de police, conflicted South Africa, French and British gatherings is huge.

      Is there any place that’s quiet and at peace with itself?

      If all that I’ve worked for, saved for and suffered for over my lifetime is wiped out by this craziness, I can tell you, I am going to be a very unhappy and active man.

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    Alistair Crooks

    The other night I was watching one of those endless programs on SBS about the Nazis – it was about how it all started and how it all went pear-shaped. The narrator-commentator was describing the slide into fascism and gushing about how terrible it was … but I couldn’t help noticing that each of the steps he was describing, the take over of the media, the alliance with the industrialist/technocrats, the setting up of the Gestapo, and encouraging people to dob each other in, was exactly the situation we are witnessing now in the present day. No doubt the narrator/commentator actually approves of these measures now – but he could not see that given that – back in 1937, he would have approved of all the measures Nazis were taking. He could not see how easy the slide into totalitarianism is.

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    Steve of Cornubia

    This is all getting serious because the Left – in its various forms – has reached ‘critical mass’ in all the organisations and institutions that wield power over ordinary citizens but, even more importantly, those that were supposed to act as checks on political power. This includes the highest courts in Western nations and, of course, the mainstream media.

    This isn’t a conspiracy however, nor is it totally controlled by some secret, mysterious figure(s), though of course this movement does have some extremely wealthy and powerful people in its midst.

    Instead, what we have is a convergence of interest. Various groups are pulling and pushing in the same direction, though for different reasons and with somewhat different outcomes in mind. This is why critical mass is important, because whereas there used to be a ‘balance of power’, acting a little like a balanced ecology of political forces, sufficient interest groups and powerful individuals are now working together and this threatens to destroy that balance, wrecking the ‘ecosystem’.

    My fear is that, with legal recourse unavailable, with the police and armed services controlled (or at least emasculated), with the media complicit, the internet controlled and our voting rights neutralised, we will eventually find ourselves with just one way out of the corner we’ve been herded into, and that’s to come out swinging.

    Could the West really descend into large-scale civil war? And if so, what’s the betting that China will take every advantage of the West’s chaos? One way or another, socialism is headed our way.

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      OriginalSteve

      The USA must not become divided into 5 separate countries, or its a case of divide and conquer….. and the globalist bully boys will still be in control whatever the result.

      The only way the stranglehold can be broken is peaceful resistance to the agenda….just refuse. They cant put a whole population in jail.

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        PeterS

        They won’t need to put them all in prison if they manage to achieve one of the goals by the extreme left: terminate most of the population and restrain the rest. However, they are cleverer that that. They will keep on using various means to train us to accept their “total” solution of a ruthless NWO dictatorship. It’s working well so far for them. Time will tell if the people wake up and put a halt to all of it. I personally doubt it as the evil tide coming in is too big. That’s OK, it will sort out to weak and the strong, as always.

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    John R Smith

    Just watched a compilation of Biden and Harris during the campaign saying that people should be distrustful of the vax because it’s DJT’s project..
    Now they want those they prompted to be distrustful to be silenced.
    The hypocrisy is truly stunning.
    Godwin’s now null and void.

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      John R Smith

      Awaiting moderation … yes … truly.
      Powerful forces beyond my control are heck bent on hamstringing my moderation.

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      David Maddison

      And yet the World Homicide Organisation continues to propagate the lie that the “vaccines” are effective against the variants.

      The Australian Government fanatically believes every lie from the WHO just like they fanatically follow the IPCC lies about supposed global warming.

      https://www.who.int/news-room/feature-stories/detail/vaccine-efficacy-effectiveness-and-protection

      Based on what we know so far, vaccines are proving effective against existing variants, especially at preventing severe disease, hospitalization and death. However, some variants are having a slight impact on the ability of vaccines to guard against mild disease and infection.

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        PeterS

        Indeed our own governments at all levels have turned to the dark side. Studies confirm those who already had the virus do not need to be vaccinated, which makes sense in any case because that’s how immunity works. So, those who are already immune to the virus who get vaccinated and suffer some illness if not death are then victims of a deliberate and evil agenda by our own very governments. So, who is our real enemy? We need not look beyond our borders to find our true enemies.

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          OriginalSteve

          It appears the Oz govt is just a UN globalist outpost…

          Dont forget we are targetted for a 60% population reduction.

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            Serp

            The paper cat.

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            PeterS

            I suspect it has been that way longer than we thought. As for the 60% reduction, some propose 90%. I welcome it if they first elect to go first and the rest of us can wait. Of ounce they are all gone we can change our minds.

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      PeterS

      In spite of the deliberate campaign by our governments to censor all the truth about the virus and vaccinations, in time the scam will be exposed just as the CAGW scam was exposed. Still, that doesn’t mean it will be finished, just as the CAGW scam isn’t finished, and in fact is still going on at break-neck speed. Please remind me who our real enemies are? It’s certainly not the Chinese nor the Russians.

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    STJOHNOFGRAFTON

    My grandfather stood up to NAZI tyranny in an occupied European country during WW2. A normally placid man, he had finally reached the limit of grudging tolerance and gave an oafish bureaucrat NAZI collaborator a good belting. Three of his sons had already been taken off to forced labour in Germany. No doubt this contributed to his righteous anger. Anyway, he was imprisoned with the possibility of dire future consequences but was finally released after my grandmother importuned the authorities on the grounds that their three boys were already in custody doing forced labour and that as their father was the breadwinner, my grandmother and two daughters would be left destitute.

    I have related an interesting family history, altered by the onslaught of totalitarian oafish tyranny. Based on reading the currently developing situation in Australia and elsewhere, my conclusion is that our lives are once again being impacted by yet another totalitarian waking nightmare. How long before we, as decent people, reach the limits of grudging tolerance of the absurd totalitarian actions of health bureaucrats, and Premiers and and say enough’s enough, we demand our freedom.

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      PeterS

      As I keep saying, it won’t end until the pain threshold is reached, and that means it will be too late yet again. We are far from that now. Too many are too comfortable in their cosy environments to step out and demand the freedoms we’ve lost so far. I’m afraid history will repeat yet again. Be warned and be prepared. Only people like you who had more direct experience than most, and people like me who study history can see where we are heading as clear as a bell. It’s like watching a movie being made in real-time, and having the script in your hands thus knowing how it will all be played out in general.

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    Simon B

    The quote is interesting in so much as the part of,’who could have thought 6 years ago….’. It’s instructive to know that the US left and the WEF/UN/EU have been laying the groundwork for this long march for more than that.
    The global warming ‘crisis’ with deadlines to the end of the world was designed to shake the West from capitalism and expose it as the root of all evil when combined with the 2008 GFC. The CCP has been undermining capitalism from inside the periphery by supplanting the West manufacturing and making it dependent on Socialist slave labour, while signing the 3rd world up to generational debt thru African belt and road.
    Meanwhile the Hard left in the US have been eroding the foundation of that country by picking away at the race relation advancements to return the country to the 60’s when so many activists of actual character fought for equality. The hard left, like the hard right don’t care about results, they are irrelevant without the fight and will continue to be useful idiots for those who are after 2 things; power and money.
    Right now the social media propaganda campaign and cancel culture are doing exactly what happened in the ’30’s, brainwashing an apathetic mass into believing the exact opposite of what is happening. Radical power shifts need time, as time brings ‘legitimacy’ to arguments and propaganda. 3 word mantras built on false premises become real because they’ve been heard regularly and enter the lexicon to add a sense of relevance.
    One important point which isn’t highlighted enough, because of the highly successful character assassination of Trump, is that the US left with the assistance of the tech oligarchs, had already planned this before Trump announced he’d run. The left was ready to character assassinate whoever was running as the plan is for one party rule with the Democrats rewarding their own and entering the annals of history with historical Presidental victories for the first African American, first woman – Hillary, first woman of color – Elizabeth Warren trying to claim Native American ancestry.
    the people destroyed that by choosing Trump and the moderates have now joined the lunatics having drunk the koolaid and been appalled at the distasteful decision of choosing an outsider from politics altogether.
    The election audit in Arizona is already being destroyed by the propaganda machine to ensure any finding of impropriety will have been discredited before it is announced and the ‘headline and bullet points media for the time poor reader’ will convince a large swathe of the apathetic that up is down and wrong is right.
    This didn’t start yesterday!

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    C. Paul Barreira

    I see the point that Jo is making here. But I am far from convinced of the historical example. PeterS (#4 above) suggests and one or two others commenters agree that “history repeats [itself]”. I don’t think I’ve ever believed that but have long found Mark Twains’ suggestion that it rhymes compelling. The Enabling Act passed by the Reichstag on 23 March 1933, less than two months after the appointment of Adolf Hitler as Chancellor, was critical. Most of what followed stemmed from that surrender of legislative responsibility to the executive, which then proceeded to merge with, indeed perhaps submerge the state within the Party. Choice thus passed from view. There were moments when on specific issues, for example, euthanasia (in 1935), when dissent was possible. Government continued with its policy regardless, just quietly.

    In our time the critical point is the (increasing) prohibition of questioning. Our culture has largely died, wrecked by various institutions. Rebuilding, think education for starters, could only occur outside the law. I doubt that that is possible. And I am sorry about that.

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      Simon B

      I think I get what you are alluding to, but the current US descent into Marxist thought police and indoctrination of the education system and corporate workplaces was advancing while a conservative inhabited the White House. The Republicans were fighting hard to get rid of the toxic elements in the bureaucracy where it was part of their inservices to have white workers apologise for their ‘privilege’. That was happening while government went about business as usual.
      The long march was happening under the noses of career conservative politicians, just as it is in Europe with conservative national governments bending to Marxist EU dictates. The members like Britian have the right to leave, so a semblance of democracy seems to be in place, but there are clauses for greater powers to the central dictate, which those same members ratified as a sign on in the first place. That to me looks a lot like history repeating itself, as the Marxists learn from the mistakes and the West sits comfortably believing they defeated tyranny and the fights are now esoteric, like climate change cults.

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    MP

    Pre Melbourne solitary confinement order. How about we set a date that we end it.

    https://www.bitchute.com/video/zzOzcNvg9xGD/

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    Analitik

    OT – Germany disregarded warnings about impending floods

    a team of scientists sent the German authorities a series of forecasts so accurate that they now read like a macabre prophecy: the Rhineland was about to be hit by “extreme” flooding, particularly along the Erft and Ahr rivers, and in towns such as Hagen and Altena

    Negligence or deliberately enforcing the narrative?

    https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/germany-knew-the-floods-were-coming-but-the-warnings-didnt-work-cn99wjxzs

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    David Maddison

    ‘The whole aim of practical politics is to keep the populace alarmed (and hence clamorous to be led to safety) by menacing it with an endless series of hobgoblins, all of them imaginary’, observed H.L. Mencken.

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      C. Paul Barreira

      I watched “Inherit the Wind” not so long ago and found a number of comments made by Fredric March’s character, William Jennings Bryan, to be compelling. Mencken, I think, knew a good deal of what he spoke contemptuously.

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    PeterS

    This get to the core of the predicament we are now facing.

    While everyone is focused on COVID and arguing that there is no virus or that it is easily treated without vaccination, they are missing the real objective – our descent into a state of tyrannical psychosis that creates the totalitarian rule. The totalitarian state has a standard playbook. First, they need to create fear. This is then followed by terrorizing the people. Lastly, they will then seek power by offering solutions that require the surrender of all your rights for security. This is what Ben Franklin was really referring to.

    more here: https://www.armstrongeconomics.com/armstrongeconomics101/opinion/we-can-win-if-we-understand-the-game-plan/

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      PeterS

      He concludes that resistance is not futile. In the end that is true but as history tries to each us but not many bother to listen is the resistance is always violent and dangerous to both sides. It’s inevitable, unless we want to be the first in history and surrender completely and remain as total slaves forever.

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    PeterS

    It would be useful if this was examined properly:

    British funeral director: ‘Number of deaths skyrocketed after start of corona vaccination’

    If “leaders” wanted to disprove this they can do so by being open and honest of the real stats and stop dishing out doctored ones, no pun intended, at least not much.

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    RossP

    Have the Aussie’s lost their sense of humour ? Katie Hopkin’s questions a few things, takes ‘the piss” a bit and now she is being deported immediately.

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    https://press.uchicago.edu/Misc/Chicago/511928.html text is better without music and emotion
    Analysis and thought – not pulling at heart strings. Learning, developing.

    Deep corruption and ignorance abounds in humans https://humanistman.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/07/Zen-and-the-Art-of-Golf.pdf

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    David Maddison

    Australia is an extreme Nanny State and as far as I can tell she is being deported for joking about answering the door naked whilst in hotel quarantine.

    She committed no actual quarantine violations that I can see.

    She is guilty of Thought Crime only.

    We are dominated by Leftists and Leftist-oriented thinkers who have no tolerance for alternative opinions or even jokes.

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      David Maddison

      That was meant to be a reply to #47.

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      Maptram

      I thought she was joking about answering the door naked and without a mask. It’s the mask that’s important so perhaps she should have joked about answering the door with nothing on but a mask.

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    greggg

    “Biden allied groups, including the Democratic National Committee, are also planning to engage fact-checkers more aggressively and work with SMS carriers to dispel misinformation about vaccines that is sent over social media and text messages,”

    https://www.foxnews.com/media/biden-slammed-plans-monitor-text-messages-vaccine-misinformation

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      PeterS

      Memory holes as depicted in the novel 1984 is where every record is destroyed or falsified to cover-up the truth. We are not at that point where every record is destroyed or falsified but it has certainly started. Long way to go though and I can’t see it being possible given the wide variety of communication technologies. Still, they can and have to a large degree already done that with the MSM. This is where I am highly critical of our government for not funding an alternative broadcaster to provide balance (and the truth) instead of only funding one that is clearly providing very little balance and lots of lies. An alternative broadcaster would be a better option than defunidng the ABC as it would at least be fair for our taxes to go to both sides of the arguments and not only supporting one side, then let the audience make their own decisions which side is telling the truth.

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    greggg

    ‘this health scenario of the past year, is creating a justification to both assign people a unique identifier number, so that would be like a barcode on an item that you would buy at a grocery store or an RFID chip, to track and control people’
    ‘They have the control mechanism, but then they’re actually going to find a way to commodify people and bet on their lives to keep them busy, so that they can’t organize and create a different outcome.
    And that’s what most people are not quite understanding. They understand the mobility control element, and I think they understand the rights and privileges element, and that’s something that’s come through very clearly with the Green Pass in Israel and the pass in the EU, and the daily pass in Los Angeles and the Excelsior Pass Systems.
    They understand the control. They do not understand the way in which it’s tied to financial markets. And that’s the way in which the health access system is going to interface with many other social welfare benefits.
    And so that would be, you’ve been put out of work because of lockdowns, or because your job is gone, and they’ve automated it.
    Maybe you will get a universal basic income, a chunk of money, not very much money, really, to try to scrape by. But it will be conditional on if anyone has spent time in the welfare system. There are all sorts of rules. It’s almost a full-time job just to navigate all the rules of the welfare state, the bureaucracy.
    So, in order to access this affordable housing, a food subsidy, education, you’re going to be expected to jump through these hoops, and that will be part of your unique identifier. It will not simply be, here, you need to be able to demonstrate your medical compliance. That’s it.
    No. It’s once you have the unique identifier tied to the medical compliance, then they will link it over, and we’ve seen-I think in The Economist, they just issued-the cover story was Govcoin. It will not simply ever just stop with managing your body and managing your “health.”
    It will be about managing your access to training, managing your access to food, to housing, to many other situations. And it will all be about, essentially, predictably, profiling you all the time, and then monitoring your compliance.’

    https://www.greenmedinfo.com/blog/vaccine-passports-aren-t-about-vaccines-all

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      PeterS

      I’m not so concerned about vaccine passports as I am if they decided to mark us on the hand or head. That’s where I draw the line and say no way! I rather be executed.

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        GlenM

        That is why the populace should be well armed. For peaceful deterrence of course. Be careful and prescient people.

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          PeterS

          At least in the US they are allowed to have and use guns to defend themselves as per their Constitution. We miss out and have to defend ourselves with other means.

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    PeterS

    “Democracy isn’t perfect, but we have never had to build a wall to keep our people in” -John F. Kennedy in reference to the Berlin Wall.

    Well now the West is doing it as well. Going by how long this might take here in our major cities they might as well build walls around them to save them the effort of controlling people’s movements. Of course technology is such these days they don’t have to do that as there are now other means to control the movement of people. Welcome to the communisation of the West.

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    PeterS

    Calls for Australians who refuse Covid vaccinations to be BANNED from pubs, restaurants, offices, planes, and even leaving their own homes

    So soon? Boy things are really going at break-neck speed. Are we going to see people being dragged out of their homes and shot soon too?

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    PeterS

    VAERS Whistleblower: “45,000 Dead From Covid-19 Vaccines Within 3 Days”, Sparks Lawsuit Against Federal Government

    Interesting to see how that goes. I suspect the MSM will not release this news as it goes against their agenda.

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    Phil O'Sophical

    Most of the testimonies to Reiner Fuellmach’s Coronavirus enquiry are from scientists and medics across a broad range of expertise, and investigative journalists like Brian Gerrish of UK Column and Witney Webb (she is especially worth listening to – encyclopaedic knowledge of the cat’s cradle of the WEF and supranational bodies and private ‘philanthropists’; names, dates, money, she seamlessly links them all.)

    But Vera Sharav, comes from a different background. This is deeply moving, and shocking I expect, for those who haven’t already let their mind go that far. It is 45mins, but riveting. Amazing lady.

    If Dr David Martin’s dry factual, recitation of all the patents did not convince you that evil is afoot, perhaps this testimony, from personal lived experience, will.

    https://odysee.com/@LongXXvids:c/Holocaust-Survivor—CA–44:4

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