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The CCP in China has managed to alienate nearly the whole advanced world

China just doesn’t know how to make friends in a free world

China lion statues, Taiwan.

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China’s great weakness — or rather the Chinese Communist Party’s is that no one likes authoritarian rulers, or people that lie, steal, spy and send out bioweapons. As I said over a year ago, The one thing China may have achieved with the Covid is to rally the rest of the world against it.  It’s taken a year because the craven media couldn’t admit Trump was right about the lab leak, but there’s no hiding it now.

China has few friends. As well as infecting the whole world, it has fought with Indians, threatened the Philippines and Malaysia over the South Sea, flown fighter jets over Taiwan, and bullied Australia, even saying our weak military would be the first hit in a war.  China is leaning on Japan to give it strategic islands, and to distance itself from the US. Like a mafia state, the threat is blunt:  “no rational country would want to contain or offend its biggest trading partner” says Beijing.  Nice economy you have there, be a shame if something happened to it. The PRC even took on a boy band in South Korea last year and lost.

To give just a taste of the pushback coming: In Budapest, Mayor Gergely Karacsony said he will rename all the streets around the planned Fudan Chinese University. One will be named after a Chinese Catholic Bishop who was jailed. The rest will be called Free Hong Kong Road, Dalai Lama street, and Uyghur Martyrs’ Road. It shows a great sense of humour. Every day the administration at the Fudan Uni will have to tell people to park at “Free Hong Kong Road” and such. Like a shot of daily pain.

With the world showing signs of rallying against it, Xi’s new big plan is an advertising campaign on global media to boost the image of China and create a loveable trustworthy image. It’s straight out of a communist propaganda book. As if a few nice adverts will undo the threats, petty trade wars, and the creation of a deadly disease.

As Thomas Lifson argues, it may sound hard to believe but President Xi may be mismanaging things even more than Joe Biden.

China’s Xi may be screwing up as badly as Biden, maybe even worse

American Thinker

But China under the near-dictatorial rule of Xi Jinping is alienating most of the world’s great economies.

Late last week, as veteran China-watcher Katsuji Nakazawa of Nikkei Asia wrote:

The European Parliament has voted overwhelmingly to freeze the ratification process of an investment pact with China — a deal that Beijing six months ago considered a big strategic victory.

It has sent shock waves throughout China, with only one month and change before arguably the most important event in President Xi Jinping’s era, the 100th anniversary of the Chinese Communist Party’s establishment, on July 1.

It is not just the U.S. and the E.U. that China has alienated.  The entire world has been traumatized by the COVID pandemic that we now know (after over a year of media and tech complicity in pushing the cover story of wet market origins) came out of the Wuhan Institute of Virology’s lab.  And we know that when people got sick in Wuhan, China shut down travel to the rest of China while allowing Chinese to travel overseas, a near–smoking gun bit of evidence that China saw it as a bioweapon, whether or not it was deliberately engineered as such.

Australia has had the effrontery to demand a reckoning from China on COVID’s origins and has been mercilessly bullied by China for doing so.

Symbol China Map.Lifson points out that China has no experience in modern diplomacy, only in coercion:

I predict China will have grave difficulties in leading the world into a post-American new world order with itself at the top [because of] China’s own multiple millennia of history…

China had no experience at all of diplomacy as the relationship of sovereign states with equal standing as such — the so-called Westphalian state system.  China was the “central kingdom” to which all others paid tribute as vassals of a sort if they wished to engage in relations.

The 100th anniversary of the founding of the Chinese Communist Party comes in one month.

We can only hope China matures into a modern free trading citizen of the world as fast as possible.

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119 comments to The CCP in China has managed to alienate nearly the whole advanced world

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    Peter Fitzroy

    This is the China that is not allowed on the International Space Station, the one who watches the USA arm its neighbours like Taiwan, the one who watches the USA, and it lapdogs, Britain and Australia invade Afghanistan, hang around for 20 years, and then leave said country pretty much destroyed.

    The headline should read China upsets the USA and Australia by refusing to be a colonial outpost.

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      Murray Shaw

      No mention of Tibet in that lot Peter. Nor the events in Hong Kong. Oh, and about the Uyghurs!
      Yes the US has made mistakes, but overall it has been an overwhelming force for good in the world since it threw off the shackles of isolationism after WW1. Ridding the world of the likes of Hitler, Tojo, Saddam, Osama, those that would upset the world order, and then give them back their country whilst restoring their economy.
      Now tell me about the record of the Communist regimes of note around the globe.

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        ColA

        No 1: More bodies than any other regime

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        robert rosicka

        At least now we know who is paying Fitz to be here , honestly China runs over their own citizens with tanks , locks up a million plus for re education and harvests their organs many never to be heard from again .
        Taiwan is a neighbour country yes but it’s independent of China and no threat , I’m not so sure that’s the same the other way around .
        Then we get to the Wuhan virus , made in China that is now fairly clear and by the way they welded people into their own homes to die like experimental rats really shows how cruel this dictatorship has become .
        How many social credits do you earn Fitz for excusing the human rights abuse that the CCP are responsible for ? Or is it just forty pieces of silver!

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          Hanrahan

          At least now we know who is paying Fitz to be here

          Finally Fitz has nailed his colours to the mast for all to see.

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            Ronin

            Just another marxist useful idiot.

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              Hanrahan

              Let’s not be fooled by the western name, he/she may well be from mainland China working in a uni or embassy somewhere.

              I’m don’t claim any knowledge just speaking of possibilities when accepting the superficial anonymity of the web.

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                Why speculate such a thing? Is everyone who has a different opinion part of some conspiracy or a foreign agent?

                He has been identified before – I wont give you the specific links to him but others will verify – he revealed a lot of his background during last year’s fire season.

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                Kalm Keith

                As Gee Aye said, he claimed to have been a Koala Karer in a swamp up north of Sydney.
                Surprised that more recently he claims to have a degree, iirc.

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                if you feel like stalking, google finds him with peter fitzroy koala

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                Klem

                I agree Hanrahan, I have the same suspicion regarding the troll Fitzroy.

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            TedM

            “Finally Fitz has nailed his colours to the mast for all to see.”

            Yes RED.

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          OldOzzie

          As someone who has done business in China, TdeF’s comment on Snickers being made in China sums up the morality, and that is forgetting outright Intellectual Property Theft and “What’s a Contract”

          TdeF

          June 3, 2021 at 10:46 pm · Reply

          My experience with Chinese manufacturing is that if they can cheat, cut corners, substitute, they will. It’s a national pasttime, cheating and substitution.

          One son bought a set of spices, twice the volume at the same cost as Masterfoods but they cut everything, like drugs. Ground Olive leaves in the Thyme. And red iron oxide in the paprika. Everything was fake. And they sold well. This was exposed by Choice Magazine.

          We threw them out.

          Consider China is a country where manufacturers of baby formula thought substituting white plastic melamine for milk powder was a great idea. This would be unthinkable in most countries. What they put in a Snikers bar I dread to think! Even Cadbury’s chocolate is no longer chocolate, so we stick to Lindt. I assume fat substitutes for milk too.

          I have never seen a lot of cows in China, so from chocolate to baby formula, you have to wonder not if but what they substitute. I would never buy a latte in China, just tea. And the Chinese value our baby formula because it is real, which is why you take it as a present.

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          Tony Dique

          They are paying people all over this country and others, including the US. Politicians – Dastyari was just the tip of the ice berg; universities and their communist propaganda confucious institutes; media. The CCP must be eradicated at any cost.

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            Ted1

            Around 40 years ago I was told by somebody I take seriously that some of the local Greenies were professional demonstrators and collected pay from a Chinese restaurant.

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        boof

        Sheridan and the rest of the “I have been to Bali twice foreign correspondents have never realised that the carefully distanced North Korean rockets are swing left and turn Beijing into glass, they don’t need a million troops on their borders.

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          Forrest Gardener

          At a guess I would say that the rocket control software was written in China and has several safeguards in place. After all NK is just a useful puppet state for China.

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      Serge Wright

      No one is asking China to be a colonial outpost and why would they?. The only request is that they become part of the civilised world and behave accordingly. If you take a quick look at Japan and South Korea you’ll get the picture. With comments such as this you should seriously consider changing your name to Peter Fitzchina.

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      el gordo

      The US is quitting adventurism, so its a good time to walk away from the American Alliance. At the same time we should join the Non Aligned movement and make sure we don’t become a Chinese colony.

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      PeterS

      It was known for a long time what your true colours were. Your comment above only confirms it.

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      exsteelworker

      100 Years of Communism—and 100 Million Dead..The Bolshevik plague that began in Russia was the greatest catastrophe in human history.
      Hey Pete, that’s 100 million political deaths. Imagine your own government sending your family to a death camp because they don’t agree with the government’s agenda. Great company you have there Pete, scum of the earth.

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      exsteelworker

      The Western Democratic system isn’t perfect Pete, but at least the US government didn’t roll up with tanks and an army to shoot its own citizens dead because of non stop political protest of the last 4 years( TIANANMEN SQUARE!)

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      Melissa

      All this ‘thinking’ from a stolen election conspiracy theorist kraken hunter.

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      Geoff Croker

      In a democracy the government represents the people. Democratic government can change.

      In a communist dictatorship the government does NOT represent the people. It always gets to a point when it MUST remain in power to survive. It can only do this by appealing to racism (see US Democrats), Patriotism (see CCP), Socialism (see ALP Vic) or Fear (see guv Covid response everywhere).

      We must nuance any statement about China with this in mind. We do NOT have an issue with the people of China. We wish them well.

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      Yarpos

      Colonial outpost? you are really struggling for material now.

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      Peter Fitzroy

      None of you want to answer the question I posed, which means I am right on the money

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        Kalm Keith

        That’s phallacious.

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        Gary Simpson

        Sorry, can’t see a question mark.

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        Raving

        Yes you are correct to being lame. Poor pitiful hard done by China eh. Peak carbon emissions a mere 9 aspirational years away. Suppose that is insufficient payback for the ‘Opium Wars’ in your eyes.

        Your injustices are outdated and counterpoised to more recent recipricol slights.

        I think better of both China and the West than to engage in debate on your proposed topics

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        TedM

        “which means I am right on the money” You mean yuan of course.

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          Raving

          Bitcoin would be more like it

          Flakey world economics concerning ownership of money and levying of tarrifss is at play here

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    Penguinite

    China reduced to crock-ery

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    Serge Wright

    I think the alienation is part of Xi’s plan. Once the rest of the world is hostile to China, then Xi will have the people’s support for his planned military actions. It’s a crude strategy but from the same playbook as Hitler prior to WW2.

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      el gordo

      Xi has no plans for military adventurism and in a dictatorship he doesn’t need the people’s support. There maybe similarities between the Beijing fascists and the rise of Hitler, but history cannot repeat because everything is different.

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        Serge Wright

        Xi certainly has plans for military assisted expansion. The man made island bases in the south China were not built for his family holidays. And all leaders need popular support for any military action, even dictatorships. If you can remember back to the 1980s when they had the people’s uprising ?. A population of 1.5 billion turning against their leader is a scary thought.

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          el gordo

          Xi has to keep a lid on things, the recent uprising in Hong Kong was embarrassing and not in the script. Taiwan can wait, Beijing is playing the long game and they need a legitimate commercial face to replace HK, which has been swallowed up.

          Military action to seize Taiwan is not in the interest of the Princelings, who only need shelf companies to take over the world.

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        PeterS

        el gordo you are such a naive person. Grow up!

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      OriginalSteve

      Dont forget its potentially not just China. I think the plan is to goad the world onto attacking China, then as planned, China calls on her likely treaty with Russia to assist. Bad news. Russia has some very advanced military tech.

      Gog and Magog begins….

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        el gordo

        ‘Gog and Magog begins…. ‘

        Millenarian madness, the end of days but not the end of the world. Russian hackers are like Viking raiders, history repeats in a strange way. Anyway, the US president is about to announce that we are not alone, which should distract us for awhile.

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          PeterS

          el gordo you and so many will be fooled by the grand deception that’s about to be hoisted upon us. Good luck following Satan and his demons masquerading as aliens coming to help us.

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          MP

          “but history cannot repeat because everything is different.”

          “history repeats in a strange way.”

          New record, normally you take half a thread to do a 180 on your own skewed views, now you got it down to single digit posts. Well done you.

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            el gordo

            Nothing is ever the same in detail, but there are major influences which produce similar results.

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        Earl

        You say tomato and I say tomarto, You say “and Magog” and Ezekiel says “from Magog”.

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        Hanrahan

        I think the plan is to goad the world onto attacking China, then as planned, China calls on her likely treaty with Russia to assist.

        I beg to differ. Should China alienate ALL its neighbours and pushes them into retaliatory action [retaliation to the incursions China is making into Taiwan, Japan and India] a multi front war would be a nightmare.

        India is well versed in high altitude warfare, they have been practicing against Pakistan for years.
        Japan is a very well equipped force capable of matching it with China, as long as they don’t put boots on the ground in mainland China.
        Taiwan, similar to Japan.

        China MAY have the missiles to make life hard for a US carrier force but they can stand off so far the carrier force can move a long way during the missile flight time. China’s artificial islands can’t move an inch. I think China thinks the Yanks have no stomach for war and would retreat home after a carrier is lost. That’s what Tojo thought too. How did that work out?

        There is a saying “A combat ready unit is never inspection ready. An inspection ready unit is never combat ready”. Look at the Chinese military, as smart as a rat with a gold tooth, battalions of women who look like china dolls. They probably are about as useful too. And China still can’t build military jet engines, their domestic ones are not as powerful nor as robust as American and Russian engines and Russia is leery of having their technology reverse engineered. In a toe to toe battle with a Nimitz carrier China’s carrier [singular] would be destroyed in minutes. Without powerful engines or launch catapult their aircraft could take off with fual or munitions, not both. They would have no AWACs or air to air refuelling or growlers.

        I think Xi is as dangerous and as hegemonic as Germany was in the ’30s.

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      Deano

      The CCP might be evil, but they’re not so stupid as to make enemies with their customers and rally potential military adversaries into a coalition. Perhaps Xi’s plan might be:

      Test just how strong western alliances are, and how determined USA is to back nations like Taiwan, Japan, Australia, etc under a weak leader like Biden.

      Firstly herd competitor nations into a coalition, then start trying to play them off against each other by offering generous trade agreements to the weaker ones but insist they turn their backs on their coalition partners – causing bitter feelings and distrust among supposed allies.

      After China has established itself as the ‘Bad Boy’, it suddenly announces it has repented and will now undergo a process of redemption. This will be a bluff but will most likely work because organizations like the U.N.and left-wing parties favour China. Sanctions and restrictions on their businesses working intimately with sensitive data in the west etc will be removed. But they will still be the same old China behind the scenes.

      They will use out weaknesses against us unless we wake up and face the reality.

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    Travis T. Jones

    China released the virus and knows it is about to be proven it to be the mass murderer …

    Xu Jinping seeks “loveable” image for China in sign of diplomatic rethink

    https://hotair.com/headlines/2021/06/02/xi-jinping-seeks-lovable-image-for-china-in-sign-of-diplomatic-rethink-n393999

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      el gordo

      ‘ … a “big country diplomacy.”

      That won’t work. It would be better if they admitted Covid was designed not designed as a first strike weapon, but as a last resort. Most importantly they also need to tell the world that a lone wolf started the pandemic.

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        I’m willing to give China the benefit of doubt that the initial release was accidental and that while Covid seems to have properties akin to weaponization, I don’t think it was designed as a bioweapon, but as an extension of the gain of function research that’s falsely rationalized to guard against a virus like this occurring naturally.

        Where they get no pass is for allowing Covid to escape Wuhan and propagate throughout the world while doing all they could to prevent it from running rampant through China. Whether the purpose was to hurt the Trump administration, initiate global chaos, insure other economies are hurt by the virus as much or more than theirs or it was the result of any other kind of malice, Xi and the CCP must be held to account. I can’t see any innocent or ignorant reason for why China enabled a pandemic that was known would lead to millions of deaths and trillions in lost and otherwise wasted economic activity.

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          el gordo

          Okay, accidental release through gain of function research should pass muster.

          The problem from the start was the shabby behaviour of the local authorities trying to hush it up, telling doctors at the Wuhan hospital not to wear masks or it might start a panic.

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            TdeF

            So they welded people in their apartments in Wuhan but more than 750,000 Chinese tourists went to the US and more to Italy. And then the communist mayor of Florence introduced hug a Chinese person day? This was all very calculated.

            What is the point of developing a bioweapon and then telling everyone you are using it, even when it is obvious? Your first strategy is to deny utterly and then use your friends to maximize the effects, like Daniel Andrews in Victoria. The second strategy is to punish anyone who suggests you released this to the world, knowing full well what it would do. Why else has Australia been punished?

            820 dead in Victoria and no one knows who made the decision made between 12am and 6am on a Sunday morning to use unqualified people, an unlisted contractor and hire students over the internet as security? Even the Police Commissioner denied any involvement, until his phone records showed otherwise. Daniel Andrews should be prosecuted under his own new law for causing the deaths, manslaughter of over 800 people.

            And now the two cases used to prolong the shut down have shown to be false positives?

            Is it all about Dictator Daniel getting his absolute power renewed on Sunday 6th. This must not happen. We have been locked in our homes for 6 months and the rest of Australia only 6 days. Why?

            This death toll of 3,000,000 people can be laid at the front door of President Xi. But in a country where 50-80 million were murdered by his hero Max Tse Tung, who cares about foreigners? All the flowers bloomed, on the graves of the innocent.

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              TdeF

              And Trump demands China pays $10Trillion in reparations. That is not enough but it is a start. And even the Democrats have to admit Trump was right all along, even about Fauci.

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                PeterS

                Why only China? What about the US now that we know they helped fund the research at the Wuhan lab in China?

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                TdeF

                Many countries have nuclear. Many have bioweapons.

                It is about using them and making sure the infection spread across the planet.

                And the Chinese puppet WHO President Tedros Adhonem reassured the world on 16th January 2020 that it was ‘not infective, human to human’. The role of the UN department WHO is solely to prevent a pandemic, not be complicit in spreading one.

                And why did China do it? The list is long and evil. The death toll could have exceeded 500 million, based on the Spanish Flu. Some countries moved very quickly, particularly the US under Trump. Without him, the US would still not have a vaccine.

                Wu Flu could have left China free to act against all its neighbours, including Australia and the US and their interests. The perpetrators should be on trial in the Hague for crimes against Humanity, including our own Daniel Andrews and the mayor of Florence.

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              stevem

              The Victorian Government is currently under investigation for indictable criminal offences by Worksafe Victoria. The investigation by WorkSafe Victoria relates to the failed hotel quarantine program of 2020 and alleged breaches of health and safety laws. It has been alleged they committed 142 breaches of the work safety laws. All 142 offences we identified are indictable criminal offences.
              Worksafe Victoria have delayed things about as long as they can. Under the legislation they have until the end of June to either place charges or explain the reasons they will not be pursuing charges – they cannot just sweep it under the carpet and ignore it.

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              el gordo

              Local government authorities were terrified of Beijing’s reaction, but it eventually swung into place once Xi got the memo. The interesting aspect is how the masses behaved.

              https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-china-53077072

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      Earl

      Xi Jinping doesn’t do loveable.

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    David Maddison

    China might have few friends among thinking people but it has PLENTY of friends in all the right (wrong) places.

    E.g. virtually every Leftist politician; the socialist billionaires; and their Army of useful idiots; are working tirelessly for the interests of the CCP dictators.

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      Deano

      China also appears to have a lot of influence in our media. The way India is reported in the Australian media seems to be an example of this. Can you recall seeing one positive report about India in recent years? Every news item about India revolves around rapes, indentured labor, violence against women, institutionalized poverty etc. India has problems for sure, but it also has many successes and is the (by far) the world’s biggest democracy pulling itself out of 3rd world status with incredible determination.

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    Antoine D'Arche

    “We can only hope China matures into a modern free trading citizen of the world as fast as possible.”
    Won’t happen with Xi at the helm. Nope. What will happen is that Xi will have a “stroke” and suddenly die, when the rest of the central committee realise the folly of his reign. Then the CCP might return to a more rational approach to internation relations. I give it about 2 years or less, depending on how things play out. We’ll see.

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    OriginalSteve

    You reap what you sow…..

    Thus endeth the Lesson.

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    YallaYPoora Kid

    Totally agree Jo. China has no one to support it other than pandering left leaning communist sympathisers and anti-Western culture media groups. Still that leaves a substantial sized group still making excuses for the CCP every day.

    Dan Andrews in Victoria has created his political model based on the support of and from the CCP to prop up his finances and to get projects done. The end of the BR influence in Australia will leave big holes in the Victorian ALP strategy and finances. Get ready for the implosion.

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    David Maddison

    I was sent the following, will the Chicomms be sending out hundreds of thousands of infected people like they did with C-19? :

    Breaking News

    -China is reporting bird to human transmission of the H10N3 influenza variant.

    -risk for a global pandemic is unknown

    -Good news is the H10 is less pathogenic than H5 and H7 subtypes.

    -More good news is that H10N3 influenza virus uses RNA Dependent RNA Polymerase to replicate. This is the same pathway that Covid-19 uses.

    -This means that the Zelenko Protocol using a zinc Ionophore together with zinc should work against H10N3

    -Conclusion: Don’t panic

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    Ronin

    The Chicomms have one friend that I know of, Dan the Man from Victoriastan.

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      Serp

      Surely not after he lost the Belt and Road; I wondered if his fall had been a bastinado delivered courtesy of the CCP politburo for having betrayed its trust.

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    another ian

    “H.R. says:
    3 June 2021 at 10:18 am
    I like how you think, jim2. 👍

    Hmmmmm…. well then, here’s a tweak. How about FauXi’s Flu?”

    https://chiefio.wordpress.com/2021/06/03/w-o-o-d-3-june-2021/#comment-145952

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    Geoffrey Williams

    ‘China’s great weakness . . . that no one likes authoritarian rulers’. . .
    Yes, well we know all about that in the West don’t we !!
    Need I give any examples.
    GeoffW

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    Binny Pegler

    I’ve said before the CCPs biggest worry is just keeping control of an increasingly well off and educated Chinese population.
    Alienating them for the rest of the world is one way of doing that.
    They are going to extreme lengths to control the flow of information into and out off China.
    Combined with the ‘Strongman’ syndrome typical of totalitarians, gives you the sort of belligerent rhetoric we’re now seeing.

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    another ian

    For those who do anagrams

    https://chiefio.wordpress.com/2021/06/03/w-o-o-d-3-june-2021/#comment-145965

    “Dr Anthony Fauci

    China Fraud Tony”

    And more

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    John R Smith

    There was a struggle between communism and capitalism.
    Didn’t capitalism win?
    Corporations are no longer limited by their nation state borders.
    International corporate capitalism seems a done deal.
    The struggle is now social.
    The supranational capitalists appear to be interested in communist style social control.
    The need for a distinction to maintain popular support went away.
    Western philosophy, religious values, and social structures are antithetical to centralized social authoritarianism.
    The CCP is just another corporation.
    With population control products and expertise to sell.
    Sometimes capitalists disperse their products for free to help create a new market for their other products.
    The only folks the CCP is going to alienate is those that were taught Western values.
    And we’re dying off.
    At least we can go down ranting and raving.
    At we are lucky enough to know what to rant and rave about.

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      Old Goat

      John – I think you are essentially correct . The biggest threat is from “supranational” companies as they have the power to control the information flow and can silence opposition and control politicians through social and mainstream media . We are living in a climate of fear generated by manipulation of science to fool the gullible . Money is power in the capitalist system and these companies can spend millions and not miss it.Politics is essentially a popularity competition and has been corrupted by fraud and misinformation.The only defence is to be a skeptic in all things – (A)accept nothing (B) believe no one (C) check everything…

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    Flok

    China school report card:

    Does not play well with others, No sense of humour whatsoever, Caught cheating on every exam.

    Now what about all the Chinatowns around the world? A display of rich cultural heritage for Chinese diaspora, could they be the outposts for CCP to use?

    100 years of oppression by the CCP, is oppression with intent. This is domination by evil CCP and sick appealing idealism of Marxists but not the promotion of the rich cultural heritage. China was given a free card to manufacture goods, now they have grown to provide services as well. Many countries power stations are owned or operated by Chinese staff who cannot speak any other language but Mandarin with one translator.

    In their own country they use enormous amount to energy and natural resources to manufacture substandard goods that fill the waste dumps around the world. With 100 years of oppression it is not a surprise that Chinese people try to survive by cutting corners as any means to earn a living.

    Sad part of communist propaganda is that last 50 years of schooling in China is all about brainwashing and propaganda. Every one of those citizens can learn more about beautiful Chinese customs and heritage elsewhere in the world than in own country and for the lucky few through whisperings of elderly family members.

    CCP must be dismantled and the longer it clings to power it will never venture further or grow passed the juvenile behaviour. It will only become more isolated by creating false enemies and use that narrative and propaganda to keep own people in control.

    Chinese leaders must realise that their heritage, culture and history have an enormous appeal to the world to come and visit. Perhaps earning them more in tourism than any other country.

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    John

    What about WWE wrestler John Cena’s apology to China spoken in Mandarin. Apparently Cena is learning Mandarin to help publicize the WWE’s presence in China.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XI2IkPNteO4

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    Aloha! What “credibility” can a country have when all their money has a mass murderer on it? Mao is on all Chinese currency. Mao killed at least 30mil Chinese, but who counts after 10mil? That is like the Euro with Hitler on it! Actually Hitler didn’t kill as many as Mao did. Or maybe the Russian Ruble with Stalin. Oops!

    The CCP is just mafia. Ever seen the operational flow chart of the mafia? Where the associates and soldiers send a cut from their crimes to the lieutenants and capos and the lieutenants and capos from their crimes send a cut to the under boss etc until the “family” the Tippy Top Don gets his! The Don is Xi! https://albertpeia.com/mafiafamilytreeflowchartFBIarrests_files/image003.jpg

    Here is how it all works explained by a guy who has analyzed the CCP and China for 15 years who worked in education and tech in China. He speaks, reads and writes Mandarin, a prerequisite to reporting accurately on China and the CCP. This is an eye opening video. Give it a shot. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2FjGDCgcBBE

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    Mike Jonas

    Am I right in thinking that Chinese culture has no win-win concept, so they think that the only way for them to get ahead is to drag down everyone else? Yes I know that they talk a lot about Belt & Road being win-win, but they know it isn’t. The Australian says “It is important to know that in Chinese culture, both at the level of the ordinary people and the ruling elite, there is no such thing as win-win. There is only the churning of families trying to gain wealth and power who “only sweep the snow from their own doorsteps”. There is no concept of civil society or fairness.” – https://www.theaustralian.com.au/commentary/letters/while-we-trade-with-china-we-cant-ignore-its-authoritarianism/news-story/e8741355f264b7a5d899a946f05239c6 (paywalled, unfortunately)

    China claims that their culture and intentions are peaceful – https://www.scmp.com/comment/insight-opinion/article/2008900/china-has-all-ended-charade-peaceful-rise – yet one of the most successful books ever written was The Art of War by Sun Tzu, and I don’t recall there being any concept of win-win anywhere in that, only that if you can’t win by bullying (“diplomacy”) and if you can’t win by muscle, then you can still win by deception. It’s a great book, BTW, thoroughly recommended, but chilling in today’s context.

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    Zigmaster

    If China gets put into a corner over this virus the US will be not free from guilt because of Faucis gain of function funding of the institute. It will be interesting to see how quickly the Democrats and Joe hang Fauci out to dry. China will claim that if there is a problem the US is to blame as they paid for it. It’s uncanny how every dishonest narrative of the left is being unravelled one by one first Cuomo , next Fauci . Maybe the Biden family will be next or maybe these election audits if they ever happen will provide proof of the magnitude of cheating that took place. Whatever happens one feels that for conservatives maybe things are slowly turning

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    Ruairi

    The C.C.P. will do all that it can,
    To deny that a lab in Wuhan,
    Let a virus be hatched,
    And then worldwide dispatched,
    As the place where Covid began.q

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    Robber

    China’s biggest threat is its own middle class. As more and more people become financially secure and well educated, they will seek freedom.

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      Hanrahan

      For years now China watchers have said the thing that keeps the CCP head honchos awake at night is civilian unrest and I believe it, hence their relentless pursuit of GDP growth – to keep standard of living improving. Trump threatened that GDP growth so had to be removed.

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        Mike Jonas

        I doubt that the idea of civil unrest keeps the CCP leadership awake at night at all. With total surveillance of the population via government-controlled phones and facial-recognition cameras, an uprising is about as close to impossible as you can get. Mao Tse Tung killed about 100,000,000 of his people via one of the most oppressive regimes ever known to mankind, and even with the low-tech intelligence-gathering of his time there appears to have been only one attempt to assassinate him, and that was by a father and son with no accomplices.

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      YallaYPoora Kid

      Chinese entities only prosper if the CCP allow them to since private ownership is non-existent. Wealth can be accumulated but it can also be taken away if the rules are not followed.

      Ever had a discussion with a Chinese national? They are too scared to speak out since any other Chinese person near them could be listening. Just try using the word Taiwan or discussing the South China Sea ‘ownership’.

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    RoHa

    China is emulating the US far too much.

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    Hanrahan

    Jack Ma and Jackie Chan are discovering this.

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    Aloha!
    CHINA STUFF TO CONSIDER
    THE WHO AND WHY

    Is China to blame or was it a group effort? Is Xi being promised a seat at the World Bank table to replace the USA? I always thought the Chinese Capitalism would appeal a lot to elite billionaires with global domination dreams! Half socialism and half mafia capitalism!

    When I heard Bill and Melinda were getting a divorce it was strange to me. After hearing Bill Gates was a pal of Jeffrey Epstein I did a double take. You know it is true of else Gates would be suing the media for slander! Now I wonder what Melinda knows and I would not be too surprised to see her early death like in a car accident.

    Now this virus stuff is unraveling about the Wuhan lab. Maybe Xi isn’t 100% guilty! Now magically Fauci emails come up but Fauci does not deny those are his emails instead he goes into a massive media CYA campaign mostly on MSNBC, Microsoft, and CNN and media favorable to him because that same media put him on a pedestal. The media knows the CYA routine since nothing happened to Hillary either as in her “resist” because Trump stole the election.

    Then why is Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation second largest donor to WHO? Is there a reason Gates wouldn’t know what Fauci was doing since Obama days? In 2015 Gates did a TED speech about dangerous virus. Warning the world! Then in 2020 people hailed Gates as the great predictor of viruses from that speech! The covid lab stuff was going on then in 2015. Gates funds all these vaccine companies like BLUE and many more. He and Melinda get rich again! Has Melinda’s conscience and morals got the best of her? Why is she leaving the marriage now? The real reason.

    Now all we need is Bill Gates emails leaked! Melinda? Xi?

    That’s a lot of coincidence there!

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    CHRIS

    Recently noticed something when buying clothes. No longer does the label say “Made in China”, it says “Made in PRC”. Or should it really be “Made in PDRC”? When are the Neville Chamberlains of this world (and there are many) going to stand up to this dictatorship? Unfortunately, I see too many parallels between 1938 and the present day.

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      Aloha! I renovated a house in 1983 in Houston TX in the Heights. The house was built in 1920. Back then they used nat gas to heat each room. In each room was a gas valve that you connected to a heater. The valves in the house were all painted over so I soaked them in paint thinner for a day and came back the next day. When I pulled those valves out of the paint thinner they were like new. Shiny silver chrome with a swastika on each one. I asked an old guy that lived there in the neighborhood and he told me in the early 1930s that was Nazi Germany trademark Made in Germany then was a swastika.

      I agree way too many Nevilles not enough Winstons!

      There are a lot of people in science and politics now that should be [snip “held accountable”, “investigated” etc. – Jo]

      [Going a bit off topic here… 🙂 ]

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    Philip

    Interesting argument. But I think while China pivots itself as the only place of production – advocating green energy for everyone else while it burns coal from Russia and locally – shear economic factors will allow it to behave like a bully and be respected. It is the only way they know after all.

    That’s why Trump was good against China, he played the alpha bull strong man role and that’s what they respect.

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    John of Cloverdale

    Big Tech are still its friend.

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    Ordinary people might not be enamored with China but we have seen clearly over the last year that ordinary people do not matter. The only people who matter are the decision makers. China has bought many friends in high places. Joe Biden, Kamala Harris, and Mitch MCconnell all have deep financial ties to China. China owns the top elected officials in the US from both parties. In Canada our Prime Minister stated that China is the country he admires the most. What he admired was their dictatorship. He said this during an election campaign and Canadians still voted for him. Since taking office Justin Trudeau has allowed Chinese troops to train on Canadian soil, he gave China an abandoned military base in Alberta for their unsupervised use, and he allows a Canadian contractor to train Chinese fighter pilots over major Canadian metropolitan areas. China has bought the right people in the right places. China is playing this game better than any other country right now and they are winning.

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      YallaYPoora Kid

      As an Australian I am truly shocked to read your comments. If true then the Canadian government under Trudeau is either totally naive or traitors to their people and to the wider Western world.

      As Australia begins the cleansing process of CCP influence in our regional Government administrations I sincerely hope that Canadians will wake up and do the same in the near future.

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        Serp

        It seems to be too late to extricate New Zealand which has become a reluctant participant in Five Eyes and deep in the mire of Belt and Road.

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    DMA

    How does all this discussion change as we realise that the CCP hacked and threw the US election? This link gets you to exhibit 12 in Lindell’s law suit. It details recorded hacks. The affiants swear it is true and correct.

    https://t.me/PatrickMByrne/1210

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    El

    “We can only hope China matures into a modern free trading citizen of the world as fast as possible.”

    WRONG!

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