Thursday Open Thread

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    Peter Fitzroy

    Trump has shut down his blog website, as it was only getting 1500 views a day. Show how fickle the right wring is don’t you think?

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      Peter C

      Which website?

      This one is still active.
      https://gab.com/realdonaldtrump

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      Trump claims to be getting 36 million views over the last month so even allowing for exaggeration I think your figure is way out

      https://www.newsweek.com/donald-trump-says-his-website-drew-367m-views-over-past-month-more-traffic-2020-1594371

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        Ian

        There is no independent evidence supporting that claim which is not unusual for Trump who has made many false claims, the latest being that “boring” Twitter has lost users since he was banned.

        In fact the platform has gained over 7 million new daily users since Trump was banned.

        https://www.newsweek.com/trump-claims-boring-twitter-losing-users-platform-gains-millions-them-1588051

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          R.B.

          They lost tens of millions of ‘our supporters’is the claim. He got over 70 million votes, had 88 million followers on twitter and you think 10 million wouldn’t have been angry enough to stop using twitter? And its not just unsubstantiated but false because its not confirmed by Snopes?

          7 million is world wide for the quarter. Up about 2%. 4/5ths are not US citizens.

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            Ian

            What is the relevance of “over 70 million votes”? Biden got over 81 million. With regard to “lost twitter users” from your figures 1/5th of 7 million is 1.4 million which is very different fromTrump’s claim of a loss

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              R.B.

              Are you told to pull out that line every time it’s mentioned? As if 70 million votes is irrelevant. We are talking about a claim of around 10 million.

              Again. Loss of his supporters is the claim. People do use Twitter for non political purposes. Many ‘users’ are probably like myself, they click on a link to a video on another site. I never access it by its app. The greater use by other sites might be the reason for the up tick. It also explains the average time spent on Twitter of three and half minutes.

              Growth has slowed down so that it is expected to be half of 2019 and a third of 2020, which was higher because of the pandemic and possibly US elections. That it’s half of 2019 might be because it grew so much in 2020 but could be due to pissing off conservatives. The 3% less than 2019 is about 10 million.

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                Ian

                Let me explain Your mention of Trump getting 70 million votes is entirely irrelevant to my comment that Trump falsely claimed twitter had lost users since he was thrown off. Using your figures not mine, it seems as if 1.4 million users joined twitter after Trump left. The numbers are for the in first quarter in 2021 which is when Trump ws dismissed and user numbers did not fall as Trump claimed but rose . That’s pretty straightforward.

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                R.B.

                Let me explain Your mention of Trump getting 70 million votes is entirely irrelevant to my comment that Trump falsely claimed twitter had lost users since he was thrown off.

                You are asserting rather than explaining anything. How can it be irrelevant that there are 70 m who voted for him and that you assert, with no evidence, that there can’t be 10 m, not necessarily US voters, who left twitter because of their treatment of him? It is plausible. Where is your evidence of it being false?

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              Br0adie

              Ian

              Here are Biden’s votes being counted. Nice of his supporters to do a little overtime and count the votes from under the table after the scrutineers were sent home.

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                Ian

                Maybe you should send your comment and the video to the courts who dismissed all but one of the 60+ submissions made by Trump and his utterly inept team of Rudy and Sidney and Jenna.

                The Judges’ reasons, which were made public for most of the dismissals, were that the dismissals were due to lack of any supporting evidence for the claims made.

                So far no one has been able to verify Trump’s claims that the election was flawed.

                As the video has been in the public domain for 6 months I wonder why no action has been taken? Why was it not presented to the judges? Why did Trump’s team not bring it forward? Perhaps you will explain?

                How’s Mike Lindell going? Not too well I see. The Republican Governors Association on Tuesday threw him out after he showed up to its spring conference in Tennessee and he has accused Fox News of a conspiracy against him, perhaps to keep hidden the “absolute proof” he insists he has that Trump’s defeat by Joe Biden was rigged.

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                Ian

                The video has been in the public domain for 6 months. Why was it forwarded to the courts by Trump and his utterly inept team of Rudi, Sidney and Jenna? Why did the judges dismiss all but one of the 60+ claims that useless trio put forward? In the main because of lack of supporting evidence.

                Still perhaps Make Liddell will have some success although at the moment that seems unlikely as he was turned away a couple of days ago from the Republican Governors Association Conference and he is no longer popular wit Fox News.

                Looks as though in the final analysis the verdict will be there was no fraud except in Trump’s mind

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                Ian

                Apologies for the duplication I have no idea why it occurred

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                Analitik

                That the courts did not choose to investigate any of the claims before dismissing the cases demonstrates a lack of diligence on their part. The excuses, including “the amount of cheating wouldn’t have asked altered the result”, have deservedly lowered the trust in the courts.

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                Br0adie

                Ian, why should I send a video I am sure they have already seen.

                My comment was with regard to your votes for Biden. I thought you may like to congratulate the people who diligently fed the votes through the tabulator again and again and again.

                Did you learn anything from the cctv footage or are you happy with such a system?

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                Lucky

                Suggestion-
                send the vid to the court as evidence of election fraud.

                The court, in particular the Supreme Court decided not to look at it. The court does not see it has a role in election fraud. Your next recommendation please?

                Note that this evidence has been seen and considered by the ‘court of public opinion’, and that ‘court’ has formed an opinion of the court system.

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      yarpos

      Classic lefty focus on appearance and facade rather than real actions, dont you think?

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      R.B.

      Donald Trump dumps personal blog designed to circumvent social media ban

      Their ABC. Are Twitter and FB private companies or the only legal social media outlets?

      Anyway. It was 15 000

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    Net zero? Here is the report that sets out how that will be achieved .worth reading the comments.

    https://notalotofpeopleknowthat.wordpress.com/2021/06/02/iea-roadmap-to-net-zero/#comments

    Terrifyingly stupid, impossible and expensive but is the road ap for all those countries who foolishly plan to get to net zero by 2050

    It’s all as mad as a mad mouse who went to mad university and got a phd in madness.

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      Serp

      I followed Mad Mike link to https://budbromley.blog/2021/05/27/how-much-co2-is-in-a-raindrop-how-much-co2-is-in-the-ocean-how-much-co2-is-in-the-air/ and lit upon an acolyte of Murry Salby who reprises the material TdeF tirelessly reminds us of. My only reservation is his claim 26°C is the threshold temperature for carbon dioxide exit flux from water according to Henry –I’ll try to remember to research that.

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        tonyb

        Serp

        Yes, that temperature jarred with me. This link is useful

        https://notrickszone.com/2013/10/08/carbon-dioxide-and-the-ocean-temperature-is-driving-co2-and-not-vice-versa/

        The discussion is as interesting as the article. I am not sure Salby has got it all correct and Engelbeen is more logical (despite appearances Ferdinand is a sceptic)

        I think the cut off point is the definition of a tropical ocean which is defined as 20C.So that quoted 26C seems high. Mind you logically outgassing should occur in any body of water that reaches 20C which would be many seas such as the mediteranean in the summer plus many lakes. It would be an exceptional year for the seas around Northern Europe to reach that temperature. So out gassing and breathing in occurs in different places at different times

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          Serp

          26C on the solubility curve is roughly the nearest neighbourhood of the convex set above the plot to the origin suggestive of a boundary condition where bailiffs are teaming up and evicting carbon dioxide molecules.

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        TdeF

        Love the quote at the end..

        “The pace and intensity of the propaganda campaign will increase as the date approaches for the next UN IPCC climate conference. This is a dangerous, gigantic global fraud. “Stop treating it [i.e. AGW…human-caused global warming/climate change] as a worthy opponent. Do not ascribe reasonableness to the other side. It is not reasonable, not true, not even plausible.” ~ Richard Lindzen, Professor Emeritus, Alfred P. Sloan Professor of Meteorology, Massachusetts Institute of Technology. (31 March 2021. Zoom call Clintel Foundation)”

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          TdeF

          And my two points always are that you can measure absolutely the amount of fossil fuel CO2 in the air. Almost none. In 1958 it was 2.3%, after two world wars and half way through the 20th century.

          Then from the sudden doubling of C14 world wide after the nuclear atmospheric tests you can see on a world scale that the half life for CO2 exchange with the ocean is around 6 years, as was also suggested back in 1958. Tagged CO2 with a half life of 5200 years just vanishes forever and quickly. Where? So atom bomb CO2 is another industrial CO2 we can follow. The concept is similar to medical tracers.

          So CO2 is in rapid equilibrium with the 98% which is in the oceans which cover our planet. There are two principles in Chemistry. First is stoichiometry where both sides of an equation add up in atmomic numbers and the second is that a chemical equation is an expression of equilibrium. In contrast physics is about absolutes. Equilibrium dominates our world which is why we have averages and everything is so predictable. To propose that our tiny CO2 from factories and cars and planes dominates our aerial CO2 and even the ocean CO2 (ocean acidification) is just fraud.

          I guess my more recent observation is that as the oceans contain 1400x the heat of the atmopshere, if we want to understand the weather, we have to understand the oceans. They and the sun control our long term weather totally. Not tiny CO2.

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      UK-Weather Lass

      This is a rather perceptive explanation of John Tyndall’s experiment which Al Gore and others suggested every schoolchild could do to prove The Greenhouse Gas Effect. Their claims are just twisted words like so much of the stuff that many in climate science state as evidence.

      https://principia-scientific.com/john-tyndalls-experiment-not-prove-greenhouse-gas-effect/

      The tragedy for all of us is that the costs of going down a road that goes nowhere near zero carbon is huge for all of us and means less money for worthwhile stuff that really would improve quality of life on the planet.

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    MP

    22,000 adverse events reported and 210 deaths. Don’t worry its mainly the old people and the Rona would of got them anyway.
    Only two things kill old people, the Virus and the not a vaccine. Its manly happening to the elderly to date according to the TGA, the fact that these were the first groups to be vaccinated has nothing to do with it.
    The department that authorised these poisons has investigated the deaths/itself (funny how this works) and said they would of died someday anyway.

    Roll up and roll up for your magical mystery tour.

    https://www.tga.gov.au/periodic/covid-19-vaccine-weekly-safety-report-27-05-2021

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    MP

    Shhhh don’t tell anyone Jackie https://youtu.be/_NbVcCKJ-Ds

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    In the UK 40% of covid deaths are actually through other causes

    Also only one in 100 deaths in the UK are currently due to covid

    https://lockdownsceptics.org/2021/06/02/almost-40-of-recent-covid-victims-died-primarily-of-other-conditions/

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    (sarc) YooHoo! Hey Queensland Government. Anyone home? You awake yet?

    Say here’s your big chance to get (the tiniest part of the way) towards even getting within a bull’s roar of 50% Renewables by 2030.

    Callide Unit 3, totally destroyed, Turbine and generator.

    Hmm! Why not just clean it all away.

    Lat’s not hear all this talk of repairing replacing it back to operational.

    It’s just 429MW,

    Surely you’re not going to tell me that you need that power, surely. (/sarc)

    Oh, and all FOUR Units are still offline.

    In my Submission to Government on that 50% Renewables joke plan, I postulated that to achieve it, they would have to close down at least THREE to FOUR plants in Queensland, PLANTS, not just Units, but whole plants.

    This helps, surely.

    Tony.

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      MP

      Strange the destruction caused. I work with big motors, many megawatts driving big Mills, they have protection interlocked at every level to shutdown, temps at multiple points on every bearing, lube flows, cooling temps, flows, pressures and on and on they go.

      JBS are still down due to the Russian hack (who would of thought). Another container ship sunk, Iran’s navy vessel has blown up, container shortages. Slow steaming to reduce CO2 from ocean freight has increased transit times by 15%, need 15% more ships and containers to replace these to maintain supply to the world.

      Supply chain?

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        MP

        There is also vibration monitoring all over these things

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        Hanrahan

        Another constricted supply chain will soon be toner cartridges, they use CHIPS. If you use them think toilet paper and stock up.

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          MP

          That’s where I went wrong, I tried using toner as toilet paper and it explains the constant jamming of my printer.

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      Richard Owen No.3

      Tony,
      or anyone else who can help.
      Brown coal plants (or at least those installed in Victoria) are supposedly less ‘flexible’ in operation compared to black coal ones. e.g. slower to start-up after shut down etc.
      You have explained that coal stations can ramp up and down, and have been doing so for over 80 years, but how quickly can they respond to variations in supply? I am thinking of the situation where there is a sudden surge in generation from wind. Obviously coal-fired cannot respond in minutes, but does that surplus supply get diverted into hydro? Or do the coal plants divert steam into the cooling towers (from Analitik) while they reduce coal feed-in?
      Question 1: Do the brown coal plants keep going full ahead?
      Question 2: Do any coal-fired plants shut down or do they go on stand-by (i.e. kept hot ready for rapid ramping up when the wind drops)?
      Question 3: With steam diversion or stand-by, CO2 emissions would continue. Why shouldn’t these be counted as due to renewables?

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        Richard,

        what I have noticed when it comes to Victoria is that those brown coal fired Units are operating at maximum power delivery as soon as they come back on line after maintenance.

        Since the closure of Hazelwood, all remaining ten Units deliver their maximum output virtually all the time, so their power delivery is a flat line across the page.

        They are not ramping up and down as they once did prior to Hazelwood closing.

        Now that is not a function of them ….. NOT being able to ramp.

        It’s just that they (Victoria) are pretty much strapped for power, so they need those ten Units, whilst ever they are on line to be operating at their maximum.

        All the ramping at the usual morning and evening Peaks is achieved using those Natural gas fired plants and other plants. They come on line and go off line as they are required to top up the power required.

        In N.S.W. those black coal plants ramp up and down with the peaks. They know (with complete exactitude) when those peaks are, and the coal fired Units ramp up and down as they always have to accommodate those peaks, As well, they add in the natural gas fired plants and all other plants to add to what is required, when it is required.

        If wind is there, or solar is there, then all that happens is they use a little (tiny really) LESS of that Natural Gas fired power.

        But those big coal fired Units just hum along as they always have.

        Incidentally, as most of you are aware, I’m doing a Series on the future for coal fired power, and in an upcoming part in that series, the latest technology level for coal fired power, Advanced UltraSuperCritical.

        This development now sees a coal fired Unit able to ramp up ….. FROM COLD to maximum power delivery in under half an hour, and any other changes, up or down as required, in minutes, and emitting less CO2 than even USC, and way way less than those older technologies.

        As to your other question, once on line, they are ALWAYS delivering power, just ramping back a little during the night, and after the morning peak. It seems like a large loss of power when they ramp back, but with Units averaging 400MW+, then each Unit’s ‘little bit’ adds up to a lot in total.

        Currently, in Victoria, all ten Units are on line. A couple of them are reduced a little in output, but all ten Units are delivering (a flat line power delivery) around 4300MW, so they are operating at around 93% Capacity Factor.

        Tony.

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          OriginalSteve

          Tony

          Are these units able to go flat out all day every day, or should they be slightly wound back to reduces stresses on the machinery?

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            I look at the output on a daily basis, sometimes more often than that.

            Those Units in Victoria run at maximum output virtually all the time. (umm, as designed)

            Tony.

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          Richard Owen No.3

          Thanks Tony.

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          Hanrahan

          What I don’t understand Tony is why NSW ever throttles back their coal burning. I have never seen them match their own consumption on Nem Watch. As I type they are 1 gW short.

          What does SA hope to gain with the second interconnector to NSW?

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            Yarpos

            A place to dump energy that is produced at the wrong time and that they can’t absorb.

            Further back up from a more reliable source (may be a short term statement) reduce reliance on the VIC interconnect.

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        Chad

        Richard, if you look at the monitoring sites…nemlog, or anero, etc
        https://anero.id/energy/fossil-energy
        You can see the interaction between individual plant outputs and get a “feel” for how they are , or demand “hiccups” ….. are usually compensated for using Hydro and/or Gas , which can respond very quickly, whilst the biger coal generators adjust to the situation.
        There is also the “rolling reserve” of idling generators ready to control voltage and frequency deviations etc

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        BriantheEngineer

        They are online 100% that’s why it is called baseload.

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      Chad

      Tony , MP,…
      I assume you have seen the pictures of the turbine as posted recently.
      The “damage” seems to be more a total destruction of the turbine section, with the main shaft torn to pieces and ejected from the casing !.
      I know we are guessing, but it does seem to be something much more than just a blade or two failing would be required to result in that level of destruction. Even imagining a “cascade” effect of many blades being blended into trash, still seems small beer compared to the result we see there.
      Any speculation ? ..seized bearing ? (Unlikely) ,..fatigue failure of main shaft ? ( highly improbable ). Keen to see the official report on this one….if it is ever released.!

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        Chad,

        I had umm, (confidential) ‘inside’ information, and I saw early images of the damage to the shaft, 18 inches diameter, (solid hardened stainless) and also, a little later, some early insight into what happened.

        I postulated in my Post the day after it all happened that the generator was destroyed, and that was prior to any of that information.

        As it was confidential, I wasn’t ever going to say anything.

        Think 429MW rotating at 3000RPM and suddenly freewheeling while one end was grinding to a halt, and you can just imagine what that did to the shaft.

        Both the generator and the turbine would have been destroyed in seconds.

        Oh, and where you mentioned bearings, there’s a big clue, eh!

        And, umm, I doubt that you will NOT ever see an official report.

        Tony.

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        Robber

        Wow, this photo of the Callide explosion looks catastrophic.
        “A 3000 kilogram piece of shrapnel has been removed from the roof.” Is that the steam turbine on the right?
        “Three generating units were due to come back online this week but have been pushed back to later this month.”

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          The ABC has cropped the image. (at the left)

          Here’s a better image at this link.

          As you look at ….. this image, the turbine is at the right, high pressure and medium pressure turbine at far right end of the Unit. The Low Pressure turbine is the larger orange cover. The Big pipe at the top is the steam pipe.

          At left under the smaller orange cover is the generator.

          Note that there’s no shaft between the turbine and the Generator, and I’m reasonably sure that’s just part of the shaft, that steel ‘thing’ embedded in the floor in the foreground.

          Also, on the image I linked to, at the far left, and up that nearby wall, you can see scorch marks, probably due to the Hydrogen fire.

          You wonder if the ABC might have cropped the image to not show this, and ask questions about, umm ‘green’ Hydrogen.

          Also, look closely at the holes in the roof above, where blade section went through it.

          Tony.

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          MP

          Look at the roof purlins, can’t see a three tonne hole through them or how they would support that weight, as a matter of fact there is very little debris of any size?

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          Chad

          It was actually reported as a “300 kg piece of schrapnel”…..but either way , not something you want flying around your workplace !
          As i said previously, its very lucky no one was injured !
          It is going to take a very brave H & S Manager to sign off on restarting those other turbines without having a very convincing report on the root cause of this failure.

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            Chad

            There is a technical term engineers use to describe the state of this unit..
            …”Buggered !”..
            Its going to take more than an “oil change and a tune up”. to get her runnin’ again !

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            MP

            The poster stated 3000 kg, I did not look at the link until now.
            I actually posted a bit with multiple links to Toshiba turbines, hit post and it is now in nowhere land?

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      MP

      In the first mine I worked at the boss was a Mr Foley, we called him Bridgett Foley, every time we had an interlock take down a part (which is all) of the process he would call for it to be bridged. Wondered where he was working now!

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        Chad

        QLD Greens propose to replace the broken Callide C with a big battery !??

        State Greens MP Michael Berkman told NCA NewsWire that “spending $200 million on propping up coal would be throwing good money after bad”.

        “Coal is increasingly expensive and unreliable – for the cost of patching up this out-of-date technology, Queensland could have another big battery,” he said.

        ..i dont think they have a good understanding of electricity supply ..?

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      Hanrahan

      Tony, looking at this
      https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/449073025510277120/849543420090515506/60cda4f7ac57f0b0649f686eb317aab20354e6d6.png
      the generator looks OK, at least it doesn’t look like a H2 explosion but if the shaft is broken like that I guess it is ruined.

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        Hanrahan

        Sorry Tony I’m a bit colourblind, didn’t see you had linked to the pic yourself.

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        Ronin

        Strange, the low pressure turbine looks ok but that piece of shaft on the deck and the damage evident to the right, where the HP turbine should be, looks bad.

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          NigelW

          From left to right (and as Tony has partly mentioned) you have Generator (under yellow crane), HP turbine (appears intact) IP turbine (wrecked) and LP turbine (totally kaboom). That piece of shaft with tape attached (!)…..that was a BIG boom. Obviously no one nearby, or even in the hall.

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            Chad

            Nigel,.. i believe you have your HP and LP reversed ?
            Pretty sure its the HP that is fully trashed…
            …..not that the rest of it is likely much use either !p

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      Raven

      Inside the Callide C power station disaster.

      See the piece of coupling shaft embedded in the floor with the tape tied around it?
      It’s not a bollard!

      https://www.afr.com/companies/energy/inside-the-callide-c-power-station-disaster-20210602-p57xai

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    Peter C

    The efforts to save the Republic and overturn the fraudulent election are progressing steadily and gaining strength. America’s audit of the Maricopa County (Arizona) votes should be complete in less than 2 weeks. Meanwhile Georgia, Wisconsin and Pennsylvania seem to be joining in.

    The final battle?
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pis3veqKl8k

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      MP

      After 2 months of the election fraud covered by this blog its strange this is ignored by this blog. The American visitors at that time appreciated the news they obtained from this site. Can’t imagine the news has improved over there now.

      What will happen if its proved fraudulent, same judges, politicians and media as the last time, same result…..crickets.

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        Peter C

        Jo’s last post on the US election was on April 23, 2021.
        https://joannenova.com.au/2021/04/the-new-battlefront-in-war-is-election-machines/

        If the America’s Audit proves the election was stolen, I don’t know what will happen.

        However, as mentioned above, other states are starting to look at similar audits and some individuals have court action going. Still hoping.

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          MP

          I know what will happen………….nothing.

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          Richard Ilfeld

          The election was absolutely “stolen”;
          but we don’t really have a framework to discuss what happened;
          A better term might be “result altered”. Here’s the problem as I see it.
          At least 220 million Americans live in “normal” American towns, that cast and counted their ballots in
          the normal way. They elected, without muss of fuss, literally thousands of local and state officials,
          and cast all of their federal votes without a hint of scandal or worry.
          About 100 million Americans live in states or cities where there were factors that could influence
          the outcome to be different than what might have been expected in a normal voting year from normal voters going to the polls in
          a normal fashion. But even here, probably about 80 million of these Americans voted, some under circumstances a bit different than normal, yet were satisfied that the process was OK, and the results were no jarring.

          But the result of all of this at the presidential level was pretty close to 50-50 at the electoral college and senatorial level,
          leaving a small number of outlier districts to determine the outcome. Electoral administration, courts, and civil administration in these areas is either a monoculture or cowed by racism charges, so unusual things happened.

          The thing that convinces me that the election was tilted is the resistance to audit, because this is not a he said – she said matter. Auditability of elections is a legal requirement.

          Any perps are well aware that after a period of time, the results are set; Enough time has passed that the law will now be
          followed, in an amazingly foot-dragging manner. Somehow, evidence, will be tarnished, people will move on, outcomes will be fuzzy.
          But if there aren’t cases, a newly elected group in a year or so can come down hard, so the appearance of justice must obtain.

          Not the US legislation being proposed. It institutionalizes the type of irregularity alleged.

          There are few legitimate elections in the world held without voter identification and a paper trail. That cannot be well audited for the anamalous districts in the last US election, and the Democrats wish to eliminate both for future elections.

          Like using a technicality in court to get a perp off even if he is guilty, the left don’t consider it fraud, they consider it using the system to maximum advantage until the other side successfully resists. Those of us approaching the issua with a morally compass are hopelessly lost

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        yarpos

        Its unclear what you expect from an Australian, nominally climate alarm centric, with occasional libertarian content. The are many US Conservative blogs if you want news on their audit.

        The telling point to me is why the Dems fight it. You would think they would welcome it to clear the air. Routine random audits , or targeted ones if anomalies arise should be standard business. I wonder if we have any?

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        John Hultquist

        What will happen if its proved fraudulent ..

        In this case proper use would be “it is”, not its.
        So then the question becomes – What “it” are you talking about?

        There is not national voting. Each state is responsible for voting and that is done quite differently. Many states still have voting places where people go and stand in line, then vote. Other states have a near 100% mail-out and return system.
        There will likely be issues found as audits take place. The states’ election commission (whatever it is called) will then take measures to improve their system for the next election.
        There will not be an overturning of the national election. Biden is president and will remain so. Trump is in Florida and will remain so.
        The best hope for us right-thinking Americans is to stall the current government and retake the House and Senate via the elections of Tuesday, November 8, 2022.
        The “hope” of anything else is delusional.

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          MP

          couldnt understand it eh, next time I will write it in brail.

          Oh you think the electoral process will work next time, good on you!

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        wokebuster

        Mike Lindell was mouthing off on War Room Pandemic today about 100% this and 100% that and that it would be 9-0 in the Supreme Court. Even With legitimate evidence the path to the Supreme Court will be long and drawn out. It’s go to be entertaining though.

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      Peter C

      Excellent! Thanks.

      The best part was this: A 2006 epidemic of Pertussis (whooping cough) in the USA was sparked by a single case in a doctor who had an intractable cough. PCR testing found positives everywhere. However there was not one single case which met the Gold Standard (isolating the pertussis bacteria from a supposedly infected person).

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    OldOzzie

    Life is Ruined!!!

    Aussies vow to boycott Snickers after learning the chocolate bar is made in CHINA – but manufacturer insists the move is not permanent
    TikTok video revealed Snickers is manufactured in China turning consumers off

    Number of social media users said they will now no longer eat the chocolate bar
    Snickers is just one of many chocolate bars made by manufacturer giant Mars
    Much-loved Twix bar is made in Egypt while Maltesers blocks are made in China

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      MP

      As long as China aren’t making our farm equipment and electricity generators we are still good. But making our chocolate is a bit hard to swallow!

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      Melissa

      There’s bound to be bamboo fibres in them

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        MP

        Your just Pandaing now.

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        TdeF

        My experience with Chinese manufacturing is that if they can cheat, cut corners, substitute, they will. It’s a national pasttime, cheating and substitution.

        One son bought a set of spices, twice the volume at the same cost as Masterfoods but they cut everything, like drugs. Ground Olive leaves in the Thyme. And red iron oxide in the paprika. Everything was fake. And they sold well. This was exposed by Choice Magazine. We threw them out.

        Consider China is a country where manufacturers of baby formula thought substituting white plastic melamine for milk powder was a great idea. This would be unthinkable in most countries. What they put in a Snikers bar I dread to think! Even Cadbury’s chocolate is no longer chocolate, so we stick to Lindt. I assume fat substitutes for milk too.

        I have never seen a lot of cows in China, so from chocolate to baby formula, you have to wonder not if but what they substitute. I would never buy a latte in China, just tea. And the Chinese value our baby formula because it is real, which is why you take it as a present.

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    Neville

    The latest BOM data for ENSO is neutral and slightly more hopeful for a negative IOD for winter, spring. Who knows?
    Next update 15 th June.

    http://www.bom.gov.au/climate/model-summary/index.shtml#region=NINO34

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    Environment Sceptic

    Questions….and more questions…

    Naturally, mutations in viruses are faster than in bacteria and respond more quickly to selective pressure. This has been known for some time by way of examples like that of Mareks disease. By putting incredible selective pressure on a virus by mass vaccination, what then is a likely outcome if the vaccine does not produce sterilizing immunity (leaky) or the immunity is sub-optimal?

    “Evolution of Marek’s disease

    From youtube:
    Some Vaccines Support Evolution of More-Virulent Viruses: Video
    4,325 views
    •Jul 28, 2015
    “Scientific experiments with the herpes virus such as the one that causes Marek’s disease in poultry have confirmed, for the first time, the highly controversial theory that some vaccines could allow more-virulent versions of a virus to survive, putting unvaccinated individuals at greater risk of severe illness. The research has important implications for food-chain security and food-chain economics, as well as for other diseases that affect humans and agricultural animals.”
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=haRMKsI-jKY

    And Geert Vanden Bossche’s final appeal.
    The insidious face of a pandemic of variants
    40,885 views
    •Jun 2, 2021
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vGBDETOPAJA

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    OldOzzie

    Bombshell emails over what Anthony Fauci knew

    America’s top medical adviser Anthony Fauci was informed as early as February 2020 that Covid-19 exhibited unusual viral characteristics which could have potentially been engineered in a lab, according to emails published.

    A trove of private correspondence, obtained by The Washington Post and Buzzfeed, reveal some of the crucial moments leading up to the pandemic in early 2020 when Dr Fauci, the director of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases, sought urgent information regarding the nature and origins of Covid-19.

    Dr Fauci, who led the US response to the outbreak, previously rejected claims that Covid-19 leaked from a laboratory setting, but reversed his position in May, admitting that he was “not convinced” the virus had developed naturally and more needed to be done to investigate its precise origins. In one email from Kristian Andersen, a virologist at the Scripps Research Institute in California, Dr Fauci was told that Dr Andersen and his fellow scientists had to “look really closely at all the sequences to see that some of the features (potentially) look engineered”.

    From the Comments

    Jeffery West*
    22 minutes ago

    Trump can take some small comfort in a 16th century philosopher’s observation:

    “All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident.”

    – Arthur Schopenhauer, Philosopher

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      another ian

      More explosions

      “Update: And Just Like That, Dr. Fauci’s Book Has Been Pulled From Presales

      Since yesterday’s announcement, and the release of the cover art, the news cycle has exploded over the release of thousands of pages of emails from Fauci, and the news — as we have been covering here at RedState — has not been good. While the press has done a noble job in trying to burnish the doctor’s image with cherry-plucked instances from the thousands of pages of communications, there have been a number of realities coming to light since the release of those emails.

      And it appears the publisher of his book is now scrambling to avoid trouble. Over at Amazon, where yesterday they had been enthusiastically pimping the release for this coming November, the title is nowhere to be found.”

      http://www.smalldeadanimals.com/2021/06/02/one-flu-out-of-the-wuhan-nest-39/

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    another ian

    Bloody Hell!

    “Now boys and girls, The Guide for US schools, journalists, police etc on why you’re not boys or girls.”

    https://www.michaelsmithnews.com/2021/06/now-boys-and-girls-the-guide-for-us-schools-journalists-police-etc-on-why-youre-not-boys-or-girls.html

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    Neville

    Here’s NOAA’s decadal growth rates for co2 since 1960.
    What a fra-dulent, corrupt sick joke the OECD govts are playing on their long suffering taxpayers.
    Yet hardly anyone understands or bothers to seek out this data? When will we wake up?
    And China and Russia plus non OECD countries are laughing all the way to their banks.
    They just sit back and watch the so called developed world flush TRILLIONS $ down the drain for a GUARANTEED ZERO return by 2050 or 2100 and beyond.

    https://gml.noaa.gov/ccgg/trends/gr.html

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    another ian

    “COVID, Ivermectin, and the Crime of the Century”

    http://www.smalldeadanimals.com/2021/06/02/covid-ivermectin-and-the-crime-of-the-century/#comments

    AND

    “Report: White House Actively Looking to Dump Anthony Fauci Amid Revealed Emails and Flip-Flopping”

    https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2021/06/02/report-white-house-actively-looking-to-dump-anthony-fauci-amid-revealed-emails-and-flip-flopping/

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    STJOHNOFGRAFTON

    Jeroen Weimar, ex British Police Transport Authority, ex Victoria Department of Transport now “commander” of Victoria’s lockdown mania, where lockdowns of everyone are employed as the only method of epidemic control. In the past, managing an epidemic meant quarantining the sick. Now, in the upside down thinking of today’s latest “expert”, the healthy are also quarantined, along with their productivity, and the economy suffers more irreparable damage. Is there a vaccine for stupid?

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      Not so. In the past people quarantined whole ships, cut off whole villages, and sealed themselves in safe fortresses all the time.

      In 1665 in London during the plague, they painted crosses on doors and sealed in families for 40 days if there was a rumour one of them was sick. Typhoid Mary wasn’t sick but she was locked up for years.

      Don’t take this personally, because many people say the same thing, but there are 1,000 examples of quarantine in history there for anyone who wants to read about how desperate humans dealt with frightening situations. And a lot of it is miserable reading except it makes me feel grateful we are not dealing with what they did.

      I really feel for Victorians. In lockdown 4 though, as far as I can tell, the only things that would have prevented these restrictions are specialist remote camps for returnees and the use of ivermectin in quarantine. Both of which are worth protesting for. At a billion dollars a week, a new quarantine facility only has to prevent one lockdown to pay for itself.

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        Raving

        “With 100M inoculations in just 9 days, a fresh batch of Covid cases finally helped China combat vaccine hesitancy”
        https://www.cnn.com/2021/05/19/china/china-vaccination-drive-mic-intl-hnk/index.html

        Suggest that Aus gets on with the job of immunization. Can see Canada moving to a 3rd dose fine tuned top up before the end of the year

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          MP

          What the hell are you lot putting in the vials over there, Heroin?
          You are a vaccine junky.

          Great name by the way, very fitting.

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        STJOHNOFGRAFTON

        Jo,
        In the (recent) past, Quarantine stations were set up in ports, for instance, to keep virulent infections localized so that the rest of the country could keep commerce functioning. Sure, also in the past, whole ships and villages were quarantined. But they had small populations. Proximity required everyone to be in, forgive the pun, the same boat. In the (way back) past, superstition and fear, not science, ruled thinking. People didn’t understand what they were up against so they resorted to drastic measures that also shut most of the economy down. Today, most of us have a basic knowledge of how disease spreads and we responsibly take measures when sick like self quarantine at home, plenty of rest, good hygiene, medication, medical help if necessary. Although this method isn’t foolproof it goes a long way to keep disease away from the rest of the community. Another way would be to order a lockdown for everyone, sick or not. Naturally disease spread is halted but so is the economy. I maintain that quarantining the sick, based on the science of epidemiology, works by stopping disease spread at the source. Lockdowns are based on fear not science. Whilst they stop disease spread, lockdowns also lock healthy productive people out of the economy.

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          Analitik

          Absolutely correct. Our lockdowns were originally about “flattening the curve” so that when the infection inevitably spread through the general population, the hospitals would not be swamped so we wouldn’t have the triage situations that took place in Italy.

          Now we in Victoria are under the 4th crippling lockdown in yet another attempt at total elimination so we can be good little bots and get “the jab” to prevent us getting what should be a highly survivable disease where only the truly vulnerable should be isolated and possibly take experimental, emergency approved vaccines.

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        TdeF

        Josh Frydenberg put it well. The average lockdown for Australian States is 6 days. Victoria is at 6 months. That’s 30x worse. It cannot be the same Chinese virus.

        ‘Incompetence’ on that scale is appalling and needs explanation. The fact is that Dictator Daniel Andrews did not want the Australian army in his country after his deal with the Chinese Communist Belt and Road. And he allowed the BLM marchin in the middle of the pandemic and recently 78,000 people at a football game but only 5,000 at the ANZAC day ceremony.

        Victoria is also in lockdown right now because on 6th June 2021 Daniel Andrews wants an extension to his absolute power, meaning Victoria continues to operate as a dictatorship without parliament. However he smashed his back, we have no explanation but he remains in absolute power. Even the police have limits, so his attempt to pass a Victorian law giving him his own red shirts with the ability to indefinitely and arbitrarily detain people without legal oversight was defeated by two Green votes in the upper house. Nothing like this has happened in a democracy since Idi Amin and before that, 1933 in Berlin.

        We are in a police state after six months. For those outside Victoria, you cannot have any idea how crippling this is, having only five reasons to be allowed to leave your house, police enforced. And even then, a distance of 5km.

        This is not about a pandemic. It is a mechanism to take absolute control of Victoria and it nearly succeeded. It still could.

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      OldOzzie

      ‘This has never been seen before’: Common illnesses wiped out in fight against COVID-19

      Cases of common illnesses have hit record lows as hygiene measures used to stop the spread of COVID-19 have put the brakes on the transmission of many childhood viruses and diseases.

      As few as three cases of whooping cough were recorded in NSW last month, compared to 565 in May 2019. More than 1000 cases of the highly contagious infection were recorded in the same month in 2011.

      Only 110 cases of stomach flu, or rotavirus, have been recorded up to May this year. More than triple that was recorded in the same period in 2019. Cases of measles have been wiped out in NSW, with none recorded after the pandemic hit in March 2020.

      Professor of infectious diseases at the Australian National University Peter Collignon said closing international borders, hand washing, social distancing and other health protocols have interrupted the transmission of many other illnesses, not just COVID-19.

      “This has never been seen before. I think many infections are being imported from overseas in large numbers every year and we’ve really decreased movement of people in and out of countries, which has made a huge difference in disease spread.”

      The most striking fall has been in cases of influenza. There have been only 30 cases recorded in the state up to May this year, compared to 41,669 for the same period in 2019.

      Cases of measles have been obliterated in NSW up to May this year, and no cases recorded after the pandemic hit in March 2020. There were 62 cases of measles in 2019. Chickenpox has bounced back, but at only about half the numbers reported in 2019.

      Professor Collignon said factors such as the role of local and imported spread need to be examined to better understand trends and warned that increased complacency could lead to a rebound in illness.

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        Tel

        Wouldn’t the simple explanation be that hardly anyone is going to the doctor … when it’s too tedious to get the necessary COVID test done before you even show up?

        The hospitals have been rejecting patients for 12 months and most people who were going to die have died and the rest shrug and get on with life.

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          mobihci

          there is the added effect of reporting by GPs etc. I remember having a virus about 20 years ago that really knocked me for 6, in bed for days and when going to the doctor was told, you have a virus, rest and it will pass. more recently one where i really had bad symptoms which could be considered a flu, but who knows, the doctors sure didnt care, and no tests were done to specify the type of flu or if indeed it was a flu. they never reported such events unless it went to a hospital setting, until covid that is.

          since covi19 there has been a solid regime of testing for type, and this will show clearly in drops in unspecified flu to a specific type.

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          Lucky

          Yes! Going to your doctor when you have flu symptoms could be a very serious mistake.
          There could be a WuHu finding, true or false, so a risk of incarceration. No treatment will be given, at least anything that works as described on this site. If you are given the WuHu vaccination it is too late, even if they work. I understand that all the vax options reduce immunity (as measured by antibody count) for 3 or 4 weeks.
          Some of this is getting thru to the public.

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          Tel, But it isn’t true. Check the figures. This week in WA there were 500 tests for influenza, as there have been for probably every week for the last year.
          Like the last 52 weeks the result was again zero.

          https://ww2.health.wa.gov.au/Articles/F_I/Infectious-disease-data/Virus-WAtch

          If you look at presentations to GP’s and ED’s, people are going in.

          And if Influenza was circulating fairly often it will strike someone down badly enough to need hospital. We just can’t hide a disease like influenza for very long.

          It is entirely predictable that a 14 day quarantine would wipe out influenza.

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      Klem

      “…along with their productivity, and the economy suffers more irreparable damage. Is there a vaccine for stupid?”

      The word stupid can be replaced with Marxism.

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    another ian

    More rounding up the sheeple?

    “Destroy Camping One Fuel At A Time?”

    https://chiefio.wordpress.com/2021/05/31/destroy-camping-one-fuel-at-a-time/

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    Flok

    Alarmists should start to relax

    https://www.co2.earth/daily-co2

    Jun. 1, 2021 = 417.04 ppm

    Jun. 1, 2020 = 418.32 ppm

    -1.28 ppm

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      John R Smith

      I’ve never talked to an alarmist that had any idea how much CO2 was actually in the atmosphere.
      Or cared.

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      Chad

      Flok
      June 3, 2021 at 2:15 pm · Reply
      Alarmists should start to relax

      https://www.co2.earth/daily-co2

      Jun. 1, 2021 = 417.04 ppm

      Jun. 1, 2020 = 418.32 ppm

      -1.28 ppm

      No !…..it will just convince them that their actions and efforts are being successful !
      And Probably say that the Covid shutdown of air travel has caused this reduction !

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      Chad

      BUT……from the same site ..
      Daily CO2

      Jun. 2, 2021 = 420.44 ppm

      Jun. 2, 2020 = 417.7 ppm

      Up 2.7 ppm ??

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        measurement error.

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          check this page to get an idea of daily variation.

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          Chad

          Gee Aye
          June 4, 2021 at 11:07 am ·
          measurement error.

          …which one .? ….or both ?
          But no, i believe the “measurement” is accurate, its just that there is a lot of variation in the CO2 concentrations as seen in the frequent recordings.
          Monthly averages are obviously more consistent, but May always seems to have more “scatter” than other months. .?
          Were you intending to link to a different page ?

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            sorry… in science error is not necessarily an error as such and not necessarily instrumental in origin. Fluctuations are expressed as an error – SE, SEM, SD etc express this.

            Here is a view of the data when you graph it over a number of years instead of looking day to day

            https://keelingcurve.ucsd.edu/

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              Chad

              Yes, i have seen the Keeling chart often and am fsmiliar with the annual cyclic variations.
              But when you look closer at the data, its apparent there are other “sub variations” ..also cyclic …on a monthly and even daily cycle ?
              Have these repetitive “minor” cycles been explained ?

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    Robber

    Just as well SA still has gas generators to keep the lights on.
    At 8pm last night, solar delivered 0 MW, wind 100 MW, battery 50 MW, and gas 1,730 MW.
    Getting to 100% renewables – in their dreams.

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    OldOzzie

    Eight new cases of AstraZeneca clotting condition

    By Rachel Clun

    One person is in intensive care after developing a case of the rare clotting disorder linked to the AstraZeneca vaccine.

    There have been eight more cases of the rare clotting condition linked to that vaccine, taking the total number of confirmed or probable cases so far to 41.

    In its weekly vaccine safety report, Australia’s medical regulator encouraged people to continue to come forward for vaccinations.

    “With the ongoing risk of COVID outbreaks in Australia and the potential for severe long-term effects or fatal consequences of infection, the benefits for the AstraZeneca vaccine continue to outweigh the risks,” the Therapeutic Goods Administration said.

    The TGA has determined there are four new confirmed cases of the serious blood clots with a low blood platelet count (thrombosis with thrombocytopenia syndrome), and four new probable cases.

    The confirmed cases are:

    A 40-year-old Victorian woman being treated in NSW
    A 70-year-old Victorian woman
    An 82-year-old NSW woman and
    A 70-year-old Queensland man
    The probable cases are:

    A 72-year-old South Australian man
    A 61-year-old NSW woman
    A 73-year-old Queensland man
    An 67-year-old Queensland man
    One of the new cases is critically unwell and in intensive care, the TGA said.

    Of the total 31 confirmed and 10 probable cases:

    23 have been discharged from hospital and are recovering
    Four have left hospital but require outpatient medical care
    13 patients remain in hospital
    One patient died in hospital
    Nine of the cases were more serious, requiring treatment in intensive care.

    As of yesterday, more than 4.64 million doses of the Pfizer and AstraZeneca vaccines have been administered nationally, with a record 630,547 vaccines administered last week. In that time, the TGA received 1825 reports of adverse events following vaccinations.

    Since the start of the rollout, the TGA has received 24,402 reports of adverse events (0.53 per cent of total vaccinations). But most are side effects seen with most vaccines, including headache, muscle and joint aches, and fever. Dizziness and fainting are also common vaccination side effects, and has been reported in slightly higher numbers after the Pfizer vaccine than the AstraZeneca.

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      Hanrahan

      the benefits for the AstraZeneca vaccine continue to outweigh the risks,

      Depends somewhat on what hat he is wearing. Officially “he would say that” to quote Mandy Rice-Davies. ‘Tis better to have people die from a non-infectious cause than to have any die AFTER they have been infectious for some time.

      I’m not one to sacrifice myself for the greater good.

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    Jit

    John Ridgway’s latest piece at Cliscep is an interesting perspective on the way companies quantify climate risks (the dangers to them of the threatened future climate state) vs transition risks (the dangers to them of Net Zero regulations etc). You may guess the opinions of those for whom sentiment is a luxury they can’t afford.

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    George McFly......I'm your density

    Jo, I wonder if I could email a Word document to you? (I don’t have your email address)

    It is titled Dear Prime Minister and it is my latest attempt to appeal to the decision makers regarding the climate debacle.

    I have included some graphs in the letter including one of yours (the R B Alley graph of the Holocece)

    Many thanks,

    Robert Bourke aka George McFly

    [Email coming your way. :- ) – Jo]

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    Aunty Pravda’s rolling news feed of unacceptable articles for the 3rd June – https://thepointman.wordpress.com/rolling-headlines/  #freepointy

    Pointman

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    William Astley

    A freedom of information request has gotten Fauci’s emails concerning Covid origins and gain of function research.

    We find that Fauci helped get funds for gain of function research into covid like viruses.

    See attached link to Tucker Carson transcript of discussions of Fauci emails and a link to the Nature paper warning of the dangers of doing gain of function research.

    It appears Fauci lied to congress concerning whether the US funded gain of function research to make covid like viruses that do not occur in nature. It also appears that the gain of function research into covid like viruses was done at the Wuhan laboratory.

    This Nature paper has written, in 2015, by virus researchers who were specifically warning of the dangers of creating deadly viruses (gain of function research) that do not occur in nature.

    Engineered bat virus stirs debate over risky research

    https://www.nature.com/articles/nature.2015.18787.pdff

    This is an excerpt from Tucker Carlson’s discussion of the Fauci emails.

    https://www.breitbart.com/clips/2021/06/03/fncs-carlson-fauci-deserves-to-be-under-criminal-investigation/

    “E-mails prove that Fauci lied about this under oath. Consider this exchange, which began the evening of January 31st, 2020. It was a Friday just before midnight. The first e-mail came from an immunologist called, Kristian Andersen, who works at the Scripps Research Institute in La Jolla, California.

    Andersen warned Fauci that COVID appeared to have been possibly manipulated in a laboratory, quote, “The unusual features of the virus make up a really small part of the genome, less than 0.1 percent. So one has to look really closely at all the sequences to see that some of the features potentially look engineered.”

    The next day, on February 1st, Tony Fauci wrote back, “Thanks, Kristian. Talk soon on the call.” Fauci then sent an urgent e-mail to his deputy, a man called Hugh Auchincloss, the subject of that e-mail in all caps was “Important.” “Hugh, it is essential that we speak this AM. Keep your cell phone on. Read this paper as well as the e-mail that I will forward. You will have tasks today that must be done.”

    Attached to that email was a document it was entitled, quote, “Baric, Shi et al, nature medicine, SARS, gain-of-function.pdf.” Now the Baric in the attachment referred to Ralph Baric, a virologist based in the U.S. who collaborated with the Wuhan Institute for Virology.

    Baric worked with a woman called Dr. Shi Zhengli known as the bat lady because she manipulates coronaviruses that infect bats. She was the Shi in the attachment.

    Now keep in mind that during the questioning from Senator Rand Paul of Kentucky fairly recently, Tony Fauci denied that this same Ralph Baric had conducted gain-of-function research. Again, this is the Ralph Baric in Fauci’s attachment, which was entitled “Baric, Shi et al SARS gain-of- function.pdf.” And yet under oath before the United States Congress, Fauci denied this.
    (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)

    DR. ANTHONY FAUCI, DIRECTOR, NATIONAL INSTITUTE OF ALLERGY AND INFECTIOUS DISEASES: Dr. Baric does not do any gain-of-function research. And if it is, it’s according to the guidelines and it is being conducted in North Carolina. And if you look at the grant, and you look at the progress reports, it is not gain-of-function despite the fact that people tweet that.
    (END VIDEO CLIP)

    CARLSON: Oh, it wasn’t just on Twitter, it was in Fauci’s own e-mails. In retrospect, that looks a lot like perjury. We do know that starting early last year, a lot of people at N.I.H. were worried that COVID had not occurred naturally. They were concerned it had been instead manipulated in a lab in China. And yet they seemed determined to hide those facts from the public. Again, why?”

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      William Astley

      This is the link to the Nature paper that warns about the dangers of gain of function research (the above link did not work). The same paper notes there is no benefit to gain of function research. Gain of function research to make weaponized viruses does not help humanity. it appears gain of function research created covid, it did not help us treat covid.

      https://www.nature.com/articles/nature.2015.18787.pdf

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    John R Smith

    Dear friends at Jonova,
    It is important that we acknowledge our bettors.
    The great Dr. Fauci, whilst busy the past year saving us all, also managed to find time to write a book about his ordeal.
    I certainly hope Jo will read every word and give us a review.
    The man is a marvel.
    A master of science and time management.
    At the age of 80.
    I’m sure he will reveal his secret to active aging.
    (Provided that I am not mistakenly presuming that the National Institute of Health is supposed to guide us to healthful living.)
    I must leave you now for it is time for my afternoon nap.

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    RicDre

    Oreskes and the climate gang penned a smear in Scientific American @sciam refuses to print response by Koonin

    Foreword: I was sent this by email, apparently “Scientific American” doesn’t believe in fairness. I stopped subscribing to SciAm years ago because they’ve turned into a socialist cesspool of opinion, with science as an afterthought. Steve Koonin writes:

    I attach a response that I submitted yesterday to Scientific American. Not surprisingly, they declined to publish it.
    Please do distribute my response freely among your contacts or websites.
    Steve Koonin

    https://wattsupwiththat.com/2021/06/03/oreskes-and-the-climate-gang-penned-a-smear-in-scientific-american-sciam-refuses-to-print-response-by-koonin/

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      another ian

      Go to just below this paragraph in that thread

      “Interestingly, while Oreskes and her gang of slimers stooped really low, and SciAm even lower for not allowing a rebuttal, one climate scientist decided to ask the question on Twitter:”

      For Ken Caldeira’s Twitter question

      And note Steve McIntyre’s reply

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        el gordo

        Fair enough, the record minimum in 2012 is a standout. What were the mechanisms involved?

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            In the Arctic there was a cyclone which helped to break up the ice.

            ‘Recent research showed that the Arctic cyclone was the most powerful ever seen during the month of August, and the 13th most powerful of all Arctic storms in more than three decades of satellite records.

            “The storm was enormous,” said co-author Axel Schweiger, a polar scientist in the Applied Physics Laboratory. “The impact on the ice was immediately obvious, but the question was whether the ice that went away during the storm would have melted anyway because it was thin to begin with.” (UW News)

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            el gordo

            Antartica was the polar opposite.

            “The year 2012 continues a long-term contrast between the two hemispheres, with decreasing sea ice coverage in the Arctic and increasing sea ice coverage in the Antarctic,” Parkinson added. “Both hemispheres have considerable inter-annual variability, so that in either hemisphere, next year could have either more or less sea ice than this year. Still, the long-term trends are clear, but not equal: the magnitude of the ice losses in the Arctic considerably exceed the magnitude of the ice gains in the Antarctic.” (Parkinson and Cavalleri 2012)

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          Kalm Keith

          Heat loss?

          Energy gain?

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    Furiously Curious

    This site has a lot of seemingly fairly in depth info on Ivermectin trials, along with many other sorts of medical trials. It has been closely following Ivermectin for at least a year. It’s definitely got it’s finger on the pulse.
    https://www.youtube.com/c/TrialSiteNews/videos

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    Robber

    That little battery in SA seems to be a good cash cow.
    In the last week, bought 2,400 MWhr at $48/MWhr, sold 2,000 MWhr at $133/MWhr.
    Net income $150,000 per week.

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      Broadie

      In 2018

      “It actually costs taxpayers’ money. There’s a cost of $4-5 million a year to have the battery in place … There are more costs than that involved.”

      Cost say $100,000,000 and lasts 10 years before being a waste problem.
      Therefore for fun – Depreciate at $10,000,000 a year and earns on a good week like this one $7,800,000 per year and assuming there are no other running costs in this earning other than buy in costs for electricity.

      So, $42,000 loss per week on a good week.
      No wonder the Chinese and Indians are sending goods here made by coal fired power.

      Cash Cow? No daylight ‘Robber’!

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        yarpos

        We dont really know who paid what and what contracts exist for its operation and where the cash flows go. I doubt the commercial parties are running at a lost , the taxpayers maybe another story.

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          Chad

          It is owned and operated by Aeon,.the French company that operates the Hornsdale Wind Farm.
          Commercial/financial details may not be clear, but you can bet it makes plenty of profit since they just shelled out another $91 million for an additional 64 MWh capacity !

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    CHRIS

    I liken Fauci to someone of a similar name…FAUST. Fauci definitely sold his soul to the Devil of “Make a Quick Buck”.

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    Analitik

    This is a new concept for nuclear power (although I did discuss it a few years back on the Brave New Climate site) – molten salt for the transfer loop of a nuclear reactor which would allow the heat to be “banked” as often postulated for solar thermal. The reactor complex could then load follow more quickly as the molten salt store would act as a buffer between the reactor’s heat output and the steam turbines driving the generators.

    https://www.terrapower.com/our-work/natriumpower/

    Interestingly, the Natrium design uses a fast sodium cooled reactor which could throw the non-proliferation crowd into a tizz.

    All up, it seems a much more practical concept than the “wave” reactor design the TerraPower has been working on for a decade or so. Bill Gates may just have funded something that will be truly useful and have a lasting legacy.

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    Hanrahan

    The new US military budget includes $75 mill [so my son says] to design an air-transportable nuclear power plant.

    A quick search comes up with this from a few years ago:

    https://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zone/26152/the-u-s-military-wants-tiny-road-mobile-nuclear-reactors-that-can-fit-in-a-c-17

    It seems fuel is a major logistical issue and much of what they shipped into Afghanistan was burnt for electricity. One container for endless power sounds good value.

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      Hanrahan

      I wonder what response I would get when asked for my phone at the airport: What phone?* Would they believe me or would I be in for a hard time?

      * I tossed my phone after years on call.

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      yarpos

      Really is police State stuff when they want to troll through your location history, regard you as suspicious if you have it turned off like me, and expect access to you bank account transaction on a whim. What about the damn law??

      and they hide behind that “we make no apologies” BS

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    Hanrahan

    Not a good day on the markets for bitcoin, down $3.500 today. I’m no chartist but I see $40,000 as resistance but three lows each lower than the previous do not show a floor.

    Not as good as the paper it isn’t printed on.

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    another ian

    https://reclaimthenet.org/babyon-bee-demands-retraction-new-york-times/

    Babyon Bee’s legal counsel demands retraction of NYT article that paints satire as “misinformation”

    Via Chiefio

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    another ian

    Probably coming to an Australian Green with a microphone

    “California May Be Crazy In Its “Climate” Initiatives, But New York Wants To Be Even Crazier”

    https://wattsupwiththat.com/2021/06/04/california-may-be-crazy-in-its-climate-initiatives-but-new-york-wants-to-be-even-crazier/

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    another ian

    Sounds somewhat familiar

    “Joel O’Bryan

    Reply to Gerald Hanner
    June 4, 2021 7:35 pm

    I have a PhD in immunology-virology. As such, I have actual years of long days of lab experience passaging and growing community-acquired influenza A strains in various pharmeuceutical treatments and working with others (molecular geneticists, quantitative biologists) then to analyze how the RNA virus evolves at the nucleotide level to cell culture selective pressures. That equips me with knowledge and understanding at a deep level about human respiratory viruses.

    What I have seen in the media about COIVD-19 (SAR-CoV-2), the lack of understanding of basic principles by all reporters tells me if they get all that wrong, what about all that other stuff I am not a subject matter expert on? Most of what we read by main-stream media about science topics is probably 50% garbage, and unless you an expert in that field, knowing which half is the garbage is difficult.”

    https://wattsupwiththat.com/2021/06/04/cjr-climate-reporting-is-like-covering-the-invasion-of-poland/

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      yarpos

      Very good observation and one Anton highlights here quite often on the energy front.

      I expect their lack of expertise , what I have trouble with is their complete gullibility and lack of enquiry. They are supposed to journalists FFS! I guess they are part of the dumbing down process like everyone else.

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