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Red pill #1: The “Armed Insurrection” was entirely unarmed

When is an Armed Insurrection an Unarmed Protest?

Armed with arms and legs?

Your mission, should you choose to accept it: Red-pill the West. No guns were found on any of the protesters who went into the US Capitol on January 6th. The most important part of this message is not about guns, or the lack of. It’s about The Media. People need to know they are being sold elite propaganda every night on TV — fake news that serves the Upper Class Swamp.

What are the odds that a group without a single gun would be able to overturn the US Government?  And on one of the most important sitting days in the history of Capital Hill, with possibly the largest rally in history happening at the same time, all known weeks in advance. Clearly Capitol Hill would be well protected. Clearly we would expect they had tighter security than normal. Oh wait…?

What does this say about the people in charge of Capitol Hill security — which was Nancy Pelosi.

What does it say about the intent of the protesters. Were they there to overthrow the government, or were they just citizens who want free and fair elections?

If they’d had bows and arrows they would have been a bigger threat.

FBI Counterterrorism Official: No Firearms Recovered During Jan. 6 Capitol Breach

Jack Phillips, Epoch Times

An FBI official on Wednesday testified at a Senate hearing that she has no knowledge of any guns being recovered from suspects who were arrested during the Jan. 6 Capitol breach.

When asked by Sen. Ron Johnson (R-Wis.) about whether firearms were recovered or if any suspect was charged with firearms offenses, FBI counterterrorism official Jill Sanborn responded: “To my knowledge, none.”

But in the hearing, Sanborn also said that before the Jan. 6 incident, “We knew they would be armed, we had intelligence that they would be coming to DC, but we did not have intelligence that they would be breaching the Capitol.”

“I believe that the only shots that were fired were the ones that resulted in the death of the lady,” Sanborn also testified, referring to the officer-involved shooting of Ashli Babbit.

So the FBI “knew” they would be armed, but no one thought to add extra security or to tell Capitol Police not to let them walk into the building? Five people died and all of them were Trump supporters. The policeman, Officer Sicknick was fine on the night of the protest, but died, possibly of a stroke (his family think) the next day.

Other stories about the Capitol Hill storming and corruption in US politics: 

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117 comments to Red pill #1: The “Armed Insurrection” was entirely unarmed

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      Analitik

      Trump should really start a new party and bring Tulsi on as his running mate. The party should be named The Constitutionalist Party.

      The GOP is just too embedded in the swamp.

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      Curious George

      Security was tightened around the Capitol for March 4, because Intelligence Agencies determined that another insurrection had been planned for that day.

      I speculate that the trigger must have been rising sales of fire extinguishers, a favorite (and the only known) weapon of insurgents.

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    Klem

    The capital riot was just politics, no one really takes it seriously. It has real repercussions of course for all of us, it is being used to justify hunting down American citizens who dont share the opinions of the Left. But be patient folks, the great thing about Leftists is eventually they always eat their own.

    I recently saw a great clip from Bill Maher expressing his dislike for Cancel Culture. You can almost see the fear in his eyes, he knows eventually they will come for him.

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      The media and the political left made a big deal of it in an attempt to distinguish the capital riot from the massive amount of violence their supporters caused over the summer.

      There can be no doubt the summer riots were far worse. No Congressmen lost their life or lively hood as a result of the Capital riot, while the summer riots featuring wide spread arson, looting and murder negatively affected many thousands of innocents (I’m not inferring that those in Congress were innocent …).

      As I see it, the Capital riot was an expression of no confidence in our government while the summer riots were driven by blind hate reinforced by a corrupt and highly biased media.

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        Leonard

        There have been indications, and facts supporting them in the conservative media, that Antifa and BLM was there rioting and damaging things long before any Republican came over to the Capitol. Also, the Capitol Police opened the doors and let unauthorized people inside, And as mentioned, Nancy Pelosi made no attempts to guard the Capitol or invoke any security measures,

        Sadly, I think Pelosi out planned and out suckered the Republicans and set things up to blame the Trump supporters.

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          Gail Combs

          “…Sadly, I think Pelosi AND RINO Mtch McConnell out planned and out suckered the Republicans Deplorables and set things up to blame the Trump supporters…”

          There fixed it.

          The Repiblican party and the Democrat party are two branches of the Ruling Class party. The US serf class had NO representation until the Tea Party (destroyed by the Ruling Class party) and then Trump came along.

          Voters were always given a choice of Bad and worse.

          “A controlled opposition is a protest movement that is actually being led by government agents. Nearly all governments in history have employed this technique to trick and subdue their adversaries.” Notably Vladimir Lenin said:”The best way to control the opposition is to lead it ourselves.”

          this article has Excerpts from various books.

          https://www.barrypopik.com/index.php/new_york_city/entry/the_best_way_to_control_the_opposition_is_to_lead_it

          An Example:

          Nevada Studies in History and Political Science
          1962

          Issues 1-6
          Pg. 34:

          Both Marx and Lenin emphasized the need for and prophesied the emergence of what Communist ideology terms the “controlled opposition.” Under such a concept opposition parties are permitted to continue in existence, to publish their own newspapers, to make their own speeches, and to propose their own slates of candidates. The crucial difference is, however, that the coalition formed in the second stage is a sham. Newspapers are subject to strictest control, speakers are censored and harrassed or even arrested for deviation from the prescribed Communist party line, and slates of candidates are set up only with prior Communist approval.

          Looks like the USA is transitioning into the second stage.

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            Dave in the States

            I think we were already about there by the end of Obama’s first term. The fact that they still had to do an end run around the Constitution with Paris indicates that, while being almost there, they were not quite there. We had been teetering on the edge of this but the TEA party put the brakes on temporarily. This is why such a visceral reaction against Trump. Now they are trying to reset to 2015, and do a redo.

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      ColA

      First, they came for the Communists,
      and I didn’t speak up,
      because I wasn’t a Communist.
      Then they came for the Jews,
      and I didn’t speak up,
      because I wasn’t a Jew.
      Then they came for the Catholics,
      and I didn’t speak up,
      because I was a Protestant.
      Then they came for me,
      and by that time there was no one
      left to speak up for me.

      Martin Niemoller, a former junior officer in the German Navy.

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    Sceptical Sam

    An armed insurrection is an armed insurrection when the socialists and their media running dogs tell you it’s an armed insurrection.

    Does anybody find that somewhat disarming?

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      Jojodogfacedboy

      Had President Trump stayed in office on January 20…
      He would have been Impeached as a massive riot was forming by the media and Democrats.
      Don’t think for a second these politicians would have jumped all over President Trump as being his fault.
      So, him leaving the Whitehouse really challenged the politicians.
      He is President in power but not in office as they have Biden in there.
      This is why President Trump lawyers kept pushing the not in office and the media claimed he was citizen Trump.

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      Hasbeen

      Come on fellers. A lot of them were carrying US flags.

      What more dangerous weapons to the Democrats, could they possibly carry.

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        williamx

        Hasbeen, possibly, 74,222,958 correct and valid vote ballots.

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        Henning Nielsen

        “What more dangerous weapons to the Democrats, could they possibly carry.”

        Of course. It was a…Nationalistic Flagged Insurrection. All those stripes, they make people get crazy and violent! And then those stars, can’t you see they symbolize explosions from firearms, so nobody needed any real guns in order to be guilty of armed insurrection.

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    Cheshire Red

    Security was deliberately kept lax to allow an incident to occur, which was then re-framed as ‘Insurrection’ to impeach Trump.

    Just more evidence of The Steal. Plain as day.

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      Ian

      “Security was deliberately kept lax to allow an incident to occur, which was then re-framed as ‘Insurrection’ to impeach Trump.”

      Or was it deliberately kept lax as the bulk of the insurgents were white?

      It is reported In the arrests that have followed one person arrested was charged with possessing a “military style automatic weapon”.

      I wonder if that weapon was a firearm.

      https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/legal-issues/capitol-siege-arrests/2021/01/07/661292a2-5105-11eb-bda4-615aaefd0555_story.html

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        Ian, you may pay for the Washington Post (which would explain rather a lot), but the rest of us don’t. So you’ll have to tell us what the article said. Was the weapon locked in his car boot, or was it actually at the Rally? Is the police officer quoted in the blog above wrong, or is it still the case that there were no armed protesters at Capitol Hill as she said?

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          Carrying firearms you mean. No one is disputing that they were armed. one guy killed himself with his own taser.

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          Peter Fitzroy

          The director of the FBI flat out contradicts the no guns version

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            OldOzzie

            So much for ‘armed insurrection’: FBI official says no guns confiscated at Jan. 6 Capitol riot

            An FBI official had some bad news for Democrats at a congressional hearing Wednesday on the Jan. 6 Capitol riot.

            Here’s the Daily Caller:

            “How many firearms were confiscated in the Capitol or on Capitol grounds during that day?” Wisconsin Sen. Ron Johnson asked Jill Sanborn, the FBI official, during a Senate Homeland Security hearing.

            “To my knowledge, we have not recovered any on that day from any other arrests at the scene at this point,” replied Sanborn, who serves as FBI assistant director for counterterrorism.

            This rather ruins a Democrat narrative.

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              Ian

              OldOzzie You are not giving either the full quote or the full context which is :

              “Rioters who stormed the U.S. Capitol on Jan. 6 to try to prevent Congress from counting electoral votes that would declare President Joe Biden the winner of the 2020 election carried baseball bats, brought zip-cuffs and used flagpoles to break into the building.

              Law enforcement officials have said some also had guns.

              After a March 3 meeting of a joint oversight Senate committee investigating the riot, some outlets seized on testimony from the FBI counterterrorism division’s assistant director that the bureau had not recovered any guns during the incident.

              Sen. Ron Johnson, R-Wis., asked Jill Sanborn, assistant director of the FBI’s counterterrorism division, how many guns the FBI had confiscated in the Capitol or on its grounds on Jan. 6.

              “To my knowledge, none,” Sanborn is quoted as saying in several outlets, including The Epoch Times. At least one other outlet quoted The Epoch Times coverage.

              But that leaves part of Sanborn’s response, when she declined to speak for the D.C. Metropolitan Police Department or U.S. Capitol Police. The full quote is

              “Asked how many firearms were confiscated in the Capitol or on its grounds on Jan. 6, Sanborn said, “To my knowledge we have not recovered any on that day from any of the arrests at the scene at this point. But I don’t want to speak on behalf of Metro and Capitol police, but to my knowledge none.”

              Sanborn later noted that investigators found a firearm in a search of a vehicle that also had Molotov cocktails. The only shots fired that day, she said, were from an officer who shot and killed a woman inside the Capitol.

              https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/factcheck/2021/03/04/fact-check-fbi-says-bureau-didnt-recover-guns-capitol-riot/4578286001/

              It is totally unsurprising but telling, that the Epoch Times chose not give the full quote. No one wants to spoil a good story with the facts do they?

              The U.S. Department of Justice has charged at least three people on gun charges stemming from the Jan. 6 riot, including one whom prosecutors said Metro police found carrying a loaded handgun with an extra magazine.

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                mobihci

                hmm stemming from probably means not at the riot.. am i right?

                seriously though, what sort of armed insurrection is a bunch of people with zip ties and a single spear?? i mean, is this a joke?? i did hear there were some pipe bombs left on some building (never described, so must not be near the riot using msm misreporting logic) but obviously even they were not meant for ‘the riot’ regardless.

                the media will always put their own spin on things, and it pays to never trust any of them including the so called fact checkers. just look at the years of misquoting, or what was it you said “chose not give the full quote”, to the likes of trump.

                scoring political points with the media is more the lefties game and it would be good if it stayed that way, but it seems that some in the new media want to play the same game. wont affect people (the majority) who take everything claimed by the msm with a healthy dose of salt.

                welcome to the sceptics club, just make sure you apply it to both sides of the argument, correct?

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                Henning Nielsen

                Vow. So they found ONE gun, OUTSIDE the Capitol, in a vehicle? And who are known for using Molotov cocktails, Antifa or Trump supporters?

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                Analitik

                Sanborn later noted that investigators found a firearm in a search of a vehicle

                Thanks for confirming that Sanborn absolutely knows of no firearms being brought into the Capitol Building by the protesters.

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            Harves

            And that cop was killed by a fire extinguisher, right? Is anything you say ever true?

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          ColA

          Jo, I read of 3 separate incidents of fire arms on Jan 6th;

          3 Antifa were arested and released for a gun in their car boot

          1 off duty Official (DHS I think) in the crowd who admitted carrying his service revolver, he is currently susspended

          2 Trump supporters, security guards, who had their service revolver in the car advised the car parking attendent blocks away from the Capital the gun was brought for protection while traveling from interstate, they were arrested and charged!!

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          Ian

          “Ian, you may pay for the Washington Post (which would explain rather a lot)”

          I think you are implying my comments are entirely based on Left wing sources. They are not.

          Before commenting I usually put into a search engine a phrase I think is likely to produce relevant results. After scanning 6 or 7 I select what seems the most appropriate. As I sometimes disagree with commenters here the material I select may reflect that but I do not exclusively use material from any particular source either Left or Right.

          To answer your question the article stated

          “Several dozen people arrested in the violent chaos at the U.S. Capitol made their first appearances in court Thursday as authorities vowed to track down additional suspects. One person arrested was charged with possessing a “military style automatic weapon” and 11 molotov cocktails, prosecutors said.”
          You also ask:

          “Is the police officer quoted in the blog above wrong, or is it still the case that there were no armed protesters at Capitol Hill as she said?

          It seems she may well have been wrong.

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            OldOzzie

            What We Know And Don’t Know About The Events Of January 6th

            and

            So much for ‘armed insurrection’: FBI official says no guns confiscated at Jan. 6 Capitol riot

            “How many firearms were confiscated in the Capitol or on Capitol grounds during that day?” Wisconsin Sen. Ron Johnson asked Jill Sanborn, the FBI official, during a Senate Homeland Security hearing.

            “To my knowledge, we have not recovered any on that day from any other arrests at the scene at this point,” replied Sanborn, who serves as FBI assistant director for counterterrorism.

            This rather ruins a Democrat narrative.

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              Ian

              “To my knowledge, we have not recovered any on that day from any other arrests at the scene at this point,” replied Sanborn, who serves as FBI assistant director for counterterrorism.

              This rather ruins a Democrat narrative.

              It sure does but only when the full text of what Ms Sanborn is omitted. She also made it plain she was n speaking for other law enforcement agencies Metro and Capitol police

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                Analitik

                From your earlier comment

                Sanborn later noted that investigators found a firearm I n a search of a vehicle

                So Sanborn herself ruins the Democrat narrative.

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          OldOzzie

          Jo – Bypass Paywalls web browser extension for Chrome and Firefox.

          From – https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/legal-issues/capitol-siege-arrests/2021/01/07/661292a2-5105-11eb-bda4-615aaefd0555_story.html

          Dozens arrested after mob storms Capitol; officials vow that more will be charged

          But

          What’s Happened to Many of the Federal Cases Against Portland Rioters Should Infuriate You

          “Make no mistake: those who commit violence in the name of protest, will be investigated, arrested, prosecuted, and face prison time,” the-then U.S. Attorney Billy Williams promised in September.

          Unfortunately, not only doesn’t he seem to have kept that promise, now there’s been a sea change at the DOJ as well as across other aspects of the federal government because of Joe Biden.

          So when a KGW reporter went to check on where some of those federal charges were at, he found a pretty troubling statistic.

          Federal prosecutors have dismissed more than one-third of cases, 31 of the 90 cases including both misdemeanor and felony charges. Most of the dismissed cases were “dismissed with prejudice” meaning the case cannot be refiled, it’s done. One of the more serious cases dismissed was against four defendants who allegedly assaulted a federal officer.

          At least 11 of the 31 cases were dismissed under Biden and many more cases are likely to get dismissed soon, according to the report.

          According to Williams:

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          The article said:
          “One person arrested was charged with possessing a “military style automatic weapon” and 11 molotov cocktails, prosecutors said.”

          There is no indication those weapons were anywhere near the Capitol building, on the day of the riot. If they had been, the Compost would have mentioned that.

          However, one man inside the Capitol wore some kind of headpiece with two big horns.
          He could have poked out someones eye!

          After 275 “peaceful protests” in 2020, one riot in Washington DC was no big deal. Not one Senator was ever in any danger. Except AOC, but only in her overactive “I’m a victim” imagination.

          Only in America can a young lady like AOC get paid %174,000 a year, and get lots of media attention, for being a dingbat.

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        Gail Combs

        Or was it deliberately kept lax as the bulk of the insurgents were white?

        ….

        OH, good grief Ian, do some research first please?

        Here are the facts:

        #1. 63% are White + 17% Hispanic = EIGHTY PERCENT WHITE SKINNED!

        #2. 13% African-American + 3% mixed other = 17%

        So that takes care of you ‘Bulk White’ argument.

        https://urigubu.net/wp-content/uploads/sites/29/2015/01/US-By-Race1.jpg

        >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

        Washington DC mayor IS African-American. In 2019, ONLY 42.5 percent of residents of the District of Columbia were White.

        DC COPS (wiki)

        ….As of the end of 2017, the department had 3,837 sworn personnel and 658 civilian personnel. Of the sworn personnel, there are 3,075 officers and detectives, 146 recruits, 437 sergeants, 116 lieutenants, 35 captains, and 28 command personnel.[8] Among sworn personnel as of 2017, about 78% were men and 22% were women. As of 2017, about 52% of sworn personnel were black, 36% were white, 9% were Hispanic, and 4% were Asian.[8] The proportion of African American officers has increased over time…
        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Metropolitan_Police_Department_of_the_District_of_Columbia

        So the majority of the Cops were African American AND most of the cops were likely DEMOCRATS.

        WIKI
        As of March 31, 2016, Democrats make up 76 percent of the registered voters in the District of Columbia, while 6 percent are registered with the Republican Party…

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      Richard Jenkins

      It was planned to frighten Republicans and prevent debate about the stolen ballots and election irregularity.
      The police are controlled there by Pelosi. She had to know about the email intelligence.
      I suspect she knew before the emails were even written.
      It was the only way to avoid debate and debate on the first stolen state would have brought the whole fraud into public view.
      The other 6 states would have crashed.
      Sadly a few Trump supporters got sucked in to it. We must note that people were trying to stop it, calling police and that the ‘rioters’ in the invasion were ANTIFA.

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        shortie of greenbank

        https://www.lotuseaters.com/a-chance-to-be-heard-a-citizen-journalists-account-of-the-capitol-protest-20-01-21

        From people on the ground it was obvious that there were planted agitators From the ‘trump supporters’ arrested more than one have been highly active antifa members. The cases of people stopping damage to the building due to suspicion of being antifa is also not uncommon.

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        Mr. Jenkins
        Every statement in your comment is misleading or wrong.

        Some protests at the Capitol were planned in advance and started before Trump’s speech. But people at those protests do not account most of the for roughly 10,000 people who eventually surrounded the Capitol.

        The protests DID prevent a needed debate inside the Senate, which was counterproductive for Republicans.

        A lot of Trump supporters got “sucked into it”, not jut “a few”, as you claimed.

        The Trump rally on January 6, 2021 was one of the biggest political mistakes in American history. It ended Trump’s political career.

        His claim of winning the election was not supported by evidence. The unsupported claim made him appear stupid.

        A rally on January 6 was three weeks AFTER the election was decided, BY THE STATES, on December 16, 2020.

        It served no logical purpose. The Senate that day had the formality of “counting” the electoral votes from the states. Nothing could have been done to change the results.

        VP Pence was unfairly demonized. Trump made himself look like an irrational sore loser. For no possible gain.

        Note: I Voted for Trump in 2020, and am NOT biased against him. But I believe the truth is more important than favoring a political party.

        While free speech is no crime, Trump’s speech on January 6 was like hollering “fire” in a movie theater to a very small percentage of the people listening. And that was a HUGE political mistake that will go down in the history books.

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          It’s Pences political career that ended on Jan 6th. Nearly half of America has seen the evidence you seem to have missed (or chose not to see?). Pence could have abstained and given the States (who were asking for it) another chance to vote on the electoral college again as was absolutely their right.

          The Truth is more important than any political party. Obviously if Mr Biden had 80 million real legal voting fans, the elections in the dodgiest states should have been run again and Biden would have won easily.

          Every child older than five knows why the democrats didn’t do that.

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            Ian

            “The Truth is more important than any political party. ‘

            What is the Truth?

            Trump’s truth that the election was fraudulent?

            The former Attorney General’s truth that it wasn’t?

            Election officials in every State including swing States truth that it wasn’t?

            Trump’s legal team’s truth that it was?

            Judges’ truth when dismissing 60+ Trump lawsuits citing election fraud, had no substantiated evidence?

            What new evidence has come to light that has backed Trump’s claims of fraud?

            “The elections in the dodgiest states should have been run again and Biden would have won easily.”

            By “dodgiest states” do you mean swing states? If so the recounts in these states made no difference to their initial results.

            I recommend this report to you and of course to any child older, or indeed younger, than five that might be interested,

            As for “Every child older than five knows why the democrats didn’t do that.” the answer is there was no need to

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          Richard Jenkins

          Richard,
          I do not create opinions. I observe evidence and MSM fake news about it.
          The first and most important fact you fail to realize is that it is not over until approved on tht 6th January.
          Legally each state has to be accepted individualy.A member can object. If the objection is seconded a debate of up to 2 hours is the procedure. Talk at the time was there could be 14 hours from 7 states. I believe 1 would have been sufficient.
          Courts having prevented hearing the evidence a debate in the parliment would have destroyed the ‘no evidence’ fake news.
          Pelosi knew that as did the other fraudsters that Biden referrenced before the election.
          Videos show police removing barricades and waving people in before Trump supporters could have arrived. Those police had to be involved. The emails are on record. The sergant at arms had to be told. It seems that his responsibility to advise Pelosi was unnecessary. I think she knew before the emails were posted. It was a way to stop the debates.
          AOC was supposedly threatened in her office and she was not even there.
          The fraud is blantantly obvious and David CLEMENTS of New Mexico has saved some before it was removed.
          Clearly there were not many people in the building. Some are filmed changing into ANTIFA gear after the event.
          Footwear is also good evidence as it does not change. There are 5 buses for ANTIFA. That’s a big % of those in the building. Trump supporters were videoed screaming “don’t do that ANTIFA!” to those smashing windows.
          They were trying to get disinterested polce to stop the damage.
          Prof Clements explains you would have to be a fool to believe there was no good evidence of the election fraud.
          I have watched some of the witnesses explain what they stated in sworn documents.
          Truck drivers took ballots over state lines in early morning hours. Postal ballots without folds. Ballots on wrong paper.
          Ballots marked by printer. Pipes closing counting that actually continued. Changes to voting rules not being legal.
          Pelosi had to prevent debate on the fraudulent states and that riot was ingenious.
          I am not suggesting there were not a lot of Trump supporters in the building but there is evidence that those encouraging damage and vandalism that we know of were ANTIFA. We saw what they were doing and in interviews they bragged about ANTIFA.
          Check the detail Richard.

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        Gail Combs

        Not only trying to stop it. One fellow plus helpers caught a guy planting a bomb. they turned the guy and the bomb over to the cops only to see the same guy back out breaking windows. — (First hand account but I did not archive the URL.)

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    Jim

    Interesting. The man in charge, of the gathering, is also the man in charge of the security present. Like any concert. Do you expect a riot at a concert? This was a political gathering of hotheads, would you expect them to do your bidding? To have enough security to outplay the group?
    We have seen since about 1938, there are people in the americas, in our military, who do not like america, or the way it is run. And like usual, they are high up in the command structures. and a few are american heros after the facts are released. Shmedly, where are you when we need you.

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    Fuel Filter

    No guns. Period.

    And…

    The FBI is now refusing to release the results of the autopsy of that cop who a) died due to blunt force trauma from a fire extinguisher, b) and when that was proven to be a lie, they started stonewalling the actual COD.

    Gee, golly, gosh, I wonder why? Time to look for another COD related to the protest? You be the judge…

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      Ian

      “No guns. Period.”

      Only in the Epoch Times that failed to publish the full quote

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        Analitik

        Where are the formal charges for illegal firearms on Federal property,Ian? They should be prominent in the press reports.(if any had been found)

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      Henning Nielsen

      And the body of officer Sicknick was very conveniently cremated (not, AFAIK, after a request by his family), nor has the autopsy report (if any) been made public. Same with Alisha Babbit, hastily cremated and no autopsy report, which is perhaps just as well, as the authorities seem to be in two minds about whether she was killed by a shot in the neck or the chest.

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    Clyde Spencer

    It strains credulity that any group of people seriously intent on insurrection — overthrowing the constitutional government — would be unarmed and carrying American flags. Had that actually been their intent, it would have been a suicide mission.

    It got out of hand, which is what usually happens with mobs, and went ‘an office too far.’ However, in context, there was less damage done than by any of the “mostly peaceful” riots and looting episodes during the Summer. There were no reports of any TVs being stolen, congressional liquor cabinets being raided, or EVs being burned.

    The House of Representatives and Media have over-reacted, probably with the intent of using it as an excuse to tighten restrictions on conservative opposition, and further the gun control agenda, despite guns not being involved.

    Whether significant voting fraud took place or not, a large proportion of the electorate believes it did. Thus, there is a cloud over the legitimacy of Biden’s election. Further, the public’s trust in the election process has been shaken. Yet, neither Biden or Pelosi have done anything to remove the cloud or restore trust. Instead, they have relied on the Lame Stream Media to denounce the accusations of fraud with editorial screeds repeatedly using the words “baseless” and “unsupported.” Yahoo News has suspended reader comments, so the public has no open forum to counter their “baseless” claims and omission of facts.

    It is becoming a test of wills to see just how much the public will stand before demanding voting reform that will actually restore trust, instead of reinforcing the ability to stuff the ‘ballot boxes,’ such as was just passed by the House.

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      Gary Simpson

      I am baffled by the reports of the number of guns reported, seized or allegedly witnessed at the Capitol. It seems to be particularly low. From what we are led to believe,I would suspect any random sample of 10,000 Americans on the street would turn up a greater number.

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    Global Cooling

    Swamp and oligarchy are good synonyms for supremacists who oppress the people. They use identity politics to divide the people who could as united easily overcome them.

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    Graeme P.

    Hat tip to the shift in language in accordance to the article a few days back Jo. Hopefully it will be picked up.

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      Graeme P.

      To clarify my comment, Jo has taken it apon herself to use the vernacular promoted in the article a few days ago,

      Finally, instead of lefty globalist collective marxists: just call them “upper class”

      This is a positive shift towards calling out the msm and their affiliates for what they really are.

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    Peter Fitzroy

    £No guns say FBI?

    Epoch times proved its ineptitude before during and after the last federal election.
    https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-03-03/fbi-chief-accuses-us-capitol-attackers-of-domestic-terrorism/13209738

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      Gail Combs

      Hundreds of thousands if not more than a million and ONE GUN? No Shots?

      …In a newly unsealed search warrant, investigators said rioters carried weapons inside the Capitol including tyre irons, sledgehammers, tasers, bear spray and, in at least one case, a handgun with an extended magazine….

      Some of those people have been IDed as ANTIFA and BLM and there is plenty of film footage of Deplorables trying to PREVENT damage. They even picked up the knocked over trash cans and put the trash back into the cans!
      ….

      ONE handgun THAT WAS NOT USED an insurrection does not make.

      ….

      If Rural Deplorables had really planned an ‘insurrection’ DC would have been FLATTENED!!!

      This is what ONE really angry guy can do to a bunch of politicans.
      The Story Of Marvin Heemeyer’s Revenge

      Oh and do not forget the DEMOCRAT that wounded five Republican Congress critters.

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      Analitik

      How about the ineptitude of the MSM sources that you put your full faith in, Peter? They ALL predicted a “Blue Wave” that would give the Democrats absolute control of both houses of Congress as well as the presidency.

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    John R Smith

    They are probably working on ‘The Gulf of Washington’ incident.
    Lyndon Johnson recorded his phone calls.
    I have heard him telling Robert McNamara he has the Gulf of Tonkin Resolution “ready to go in the Senate when the incident happens tomorrow.”
    This time the target is wrong thinking Americans.

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    Custer Van Cleef

    Take note MSM:
    If everyone forgets to bring a firearm – then it’s not an insurrection.

    It was an act of mass trespass by some angry protesters.

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      Steve of Cornubia

      They should have set fire to a few cars and stolen a few TV sets, then it would have been a ‘mostly peaceful’ protest.

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        Custer Van Cleef

        And Steve,

        They’re also America’s most enthusiastic gun-owners, they could’ve armed-up if they chose to.

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      Henning Nielsen

      I wonder if “Trespass by invitation” will be defined as a new federal crime?

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    Steve of Cornubia

    First they have to make it appear that those on the right are basically dangerous terrorists, hell-bent on destroying democracy. Once that is achieved and conservatives defined as enemies of the state, they can target them with any kind of oppression and punishment they wish. They are, after all, ‘protecting democracy’. The militarisation of the capitol is just one such tactic – creating the appearance that right-wing, armed insurrectionists/terrorists are everywhere, ready to rebel and shoot-up the place.

    It reminds me of an old joke, where some guy is walking down a street throwing blue powder everywhere. When asked what he’s doing, he says he’s using a special powder that repels Martians.

    “But there are no Martians here.”

    “You see? It works!”

    I worry that this tactic has already been picked up in Australia, after watching Channel 7’s (I think) story about a Nazi group in Australia the other night. If I didn’t know better, I would have formed the impression that far-right terrorists were the principal threat here in Oz, not Islamists or Antifa. They gave the impression that right-wing extremists are numerous, and our security services are terribly worried about this threat, never once pointing out that the ACTUAL incidence of violence from these few nutjobs pales in comparison to the violence and civil disobedience perpetrated by Leftists. It was all about creating the perception that right-wing terrorism is a huge danger – which they need to do in order to justify their own actions against conservatives in the future.

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    and yet, from the very small number of protesters who were arrested at the scene, who did not have guns, many weapons were recovered. Do you really need me to provide links or can you find this out for yourself?

    Stay skeptical folks.

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      ghl

      Portland, Seattle, Chicago and others, riots, arson, looting, with the police restrained by their administrations, who supported the rioters.

      The Capitol riots were just more of the exactly the same. If it looks like Antifa and acts like Antifa, even if it says it’s a Proud Boy, it’s still Antifa. Some were arrested and identified.

      Parts of their government support political riots. America is a failed state.

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        Gail Combs

        “…even if it says it’s a Proud Boy it’s still Antifa…..”

        Actually it was the FBI.

        UK Guardian: Proud Boys leader Enrique Tarrio was an FBI informant

        The OHIO OathKeepers – FBI connection is a bit more convoluted.

        March 2009 — OathKeepers formed.
        April 2009 — Napolitano stands by controversial report

        April 16, 2009
        “Homeland Security Secretary Janet Napolitano said Wednesday that she was briefed before the release of a controversial intelligence assessment and that she stands by the report, which lists returning veterans among terrorist risks to the U.S…..”

        2009 – 2010 Thomas E. Caldwell works for FBI. (Did he then go undercover as Carter Page did???)

        This has to be read carefully.

        Washington Post: The feds say he’s an extremist leader who directed rioters. He also had top-secret clearance and worked for the FBI, attorney says.
        Navy veteran Thomas Edward Caldwell led a band of the Oath Keepers extremist group to Washington on Jan. 6 to storm the U.S. Capitol, federal prosecutors allege…

        Caldwell also had a top-secret security clearance and served as a section chief for the FBI after leaving the armed forces in 2009 [NOTE THE DATE!]

        …Caldwell lives in Berryville, Va.

        Another story:

        ….US authorities have charged two more alleged members of the self-styled Oath Keepers militia in Ohio with participating in the Jan. 6 breach of the US Capitol….

        …asserting that a married Cincinnati-area couple was recruited by previously indicted retired Army captain Jessica Watkins.

        FBI charging papers say that Parker was recruited by Watkins,…

        In audio recordings obtained by the FBI, Watkins allegedly said while in the Capitol that she was leading a group of 30 to 40 others who forced entry and overran police.

        Three US military veterans – Watkins, 38, and Donovan Ray Crowl, 50, both of Woodstock, Ohio, and Thomas E. Caldwell, 66, of Berryville, Va., allegedly began recruiting in November for the action, trained in Ohio and North Carolina and coordinated plans to bring a bus of other members and weapons to Washington…
        https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/us-alleges-wider-oath-keepers-conspiracy-adds-more-charges-in-jan-6-capitol-riot/ar-BB1dQewR

        The FBI is KNOWN for being Agents Provocateur. They have been caught at it more than once. The even tried to entrap a friend of mine who was wise enough to smell the trap and escape.

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      Furiously curious

      I had a look at some links Gee Aye, they were great. The acting attorney general stated – “The lawless destruction of the U.S. Capitol building….”! I hadn’t realized they’d unsuccessfully tried the old 747 trick again, but I’m amazed they succeeded in the building’s destruction using just a baseball bat, flagpoles, crutches, a spear, a fire extinguisher, a few knives, and a wooden beam. Hey and they found some use for a hockey stick!! That’s ingenuity in full flower.
      To me it smelt like a trap from the beginning. I’ve never seen a time line when the first barriers were taken down, and when Trump finished speaking. The total lack of preparedness was ridiculous. That smells.

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      Peter Fitzroy

      I’m unsure how to parse your comment Gee Aye, Oh, I see, the clue is in the spelling!

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    Travis T. Jones

    And, the facist democrat elites are claiming they have intelligence the deplorable domestic terrorists will attack again, perhaps on the 5th, closing congress early!

    Those deplorable domestic terrorists are gonna need a bigger gun.

    And bigger ladders.

    Have you seen the wall and guards the facist democrat elites built around themselves?

    The most popular POTUS since Obama sure has lots of enemies.

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      shortie of greenbank

      The national guard are getting pretty fed up with their treatment so far, might be a coupe from within at this rate. They have received undercooked to almost raw chicken, food that contain worms and also some with metal shavings in it. It is like by hook or by crook they want some violence in the capital.

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        Gail Combs

        Shortie the wanna be totalitarians running our government WANT AN EXCUSE TO DESTROY OUR SECOND AMENDMENT!

        So far the Deplorables have REFUSED to take the bail and remained peaceful DESPITE the Agents Provocateur used to bait them.

        The Capital mess was the most successful but was still a complete dud despite all the planning by the left. (I know five people who were there. One performed CPR on one of the five who died.)

        THINK! We have over 300 Million people in the USA and the totalitarian wannabes STILL haven’t managed to bait the ‘Far-Right Extremists’ in to major violence despite ten years of effort.

        I am very very PROUD of the Deplorables in the amount of restraint they have shown.

        This is WHY they want to destroy our 2nd Amendment and WHY the UN has a ‘small arms treaty’

        1911 Turkey Gun control — from 1915 to 1917 – 1.5 million Arminans killed

        1935 China gun control — from 1948 to 1952 – 20 million killed

        1938 Germany Gun control — from 1935 to 1945 – 20,946,000 murdered.

        1956 Cambodia gun control — from 1975 to 1977 – 1 to 2 million educated people murdered.

        1964 Guatamala Gun Control — from 1964 to 1981 – 100,000 Mayan Indians killed.

        1970 Uganda gun control in — from 1971 to 1979 – 300,000 Christians killed, a total of 2 to 3 million murdered.

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    Furiously curious

    Does anyone else remember the video of the ‘riot’ where a ‘rioter’ filmed a convoy of possibly 4, maybe 5 mid sized busses, escorted by black SUVs in front and behind, arriving and parking across the street. A bunch of men got out and melted into the crowd. The videoer was yelling, ‘who are these people?’ There might have been a second video. Was anyone bright enough to get number plates?? I’ll see if it’s still on my you tube history?

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    David-of-Cooyal-in-Oz

    Afternoon all,
    I decided to do a personal fact check on this article from today’s ABC Just In, and didn’t get past the second paragraph:
    ” National Guard troops patrolled inside a large black fence encircling the Capitol, the scene of a deadly insurrection by supporters of Mr Trump that killed five people in January. ”

    https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-03-05/donald-trump-supporters-hope-for-return-high-us-capitol-security/13218528

    Only three errors in that ksentence:
    “deadly”; “insurrection”; and “…that killed…”.
    Or perhaps it’s four? Shouldn’t he still be addressed as “President Trump”, like other previous presidents?

    Quite clever bastardry by the ABC really.

    Cheers
    Dave B

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      calling former presidents “President” is not the ABC’s habit. viz-

      10 May 2020 — Barack Obama accuses the US President of approaching the coronavirus pandemic with a “what’s in it for me?” attitude, saying Washington’s …

      4 June 2020 — In his first remarks since the death of George Floyd in police custody, Mr Obama says the protests offer an opportunity for people to be …

      1 Nov 2020 — Barack Obama and his former vice-president share a stage for the first time during the US election campaign, as Joe Biden and Donald Trump …

      etc etc

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    John R Smith

    I wonder if Biden, the Dems, and the MSM will celebrate July 4th?

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    The Prison on the Potomac.
    The street theatre of January 6th,barely matters,the breathless Narrative was all they really wanted..
    Weeks of Media blatantly insisting Donald Trump caused a violent riot, an insurrection.
    And all the actors were those nasty deplorable conservatives..
    Truthiness and propaganda.
    None of which mades sense.
    Now the truth has finally got its boots on,the Presstitutes are claiming”Thats old news” Our lies do not matter…
    “Look! a Squirrel”.

    Nothing we have been “Assured of” since Nov 3rd has a shred of credibility.

    Think about that “Insurrection Meme”.

    So the tool using members of society turned up “In their thousands” to destroy the Capitol..
    That was the official story.

    Yet even an idiot can see,if the productive members of society wanted the Capitol destroyed, it would have been a burning grease spot Dec 7th.
    The media cannot even grant us competentcy.

    Could be, they really are projecting their own stupidity,evil and incompetence onto everyone who laughs at them.

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      Bozotheclown

      Good observations John.

      The media cannot even grant us competentcy.

      They would not know how to identify competency as they lack experience.

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      While history doesn’t repeat itself, some parallels do exist such as guvaments calling fire in a crowded theatre Never let a good crisis go to waste…

      On February 27, 1933, 24-year-old Dutch militant Marinus van der Lubbe set fire to the German parliament (Reichstag), causing extensive damage to the building that had long been the symbol of German unity. The government falsely portrayed the incident as part of a Communist plot to overthrow the state in response to Adolf Hitler’s appointment as Reich Chancellor by President Paul von Hindenburg on January 30, 1933.

      On February 4, Hitler’s cabinet authorised the police to ban political meetings and marches. Nazi leaders then exploited the Reichstag fire to gain President von Hindenburg’s approval for a more extreme measure called the Decree for the Protection of the People and the State.

      Popularly known as the Reichstag Fire Decree, the regulations suspended important provisions of the German constitution, especially those safeguarding individual rights and due process of law. The decree permitted the restriction of the right to assembly, freedom of speech, and freedom of the press, among other rights, and it removed all restraints on police investigations. With the decree in place, the regime was free to arrest and incarcerate political opponents without specific charge, dissolve political organizations, and suppress publications. It also gave the central government the authority to overrule state and local laws and overthrow state and local governments. This law became a permanent feature of the Nazi police state.

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        sophocles

        One has to wonder if that was all lined up in the wings for use after the `credible attack‘ on the 3rd of March (this month). All to be brought in on the 4th.

        Whatever it was, I missed it.

        But that didn’t stop the Democraps squealing about another one on March 4th …

        The Kermadec Islands earthquakes and the North Island East Coast tsunamis (a very Natural attack) took my attention on the 5th of March. I was woken at 2:30 am that morning when something went `bump.’ I wandered outside to see if I could see anything. There was a very `fluffy’ cat — all its fur was standing on end — on the opposite pavement which didn’t know which direction to run in. But that was all.

        It’s now the 6th and lockdown ends tomorrow at 6am — we go back to `Semi-lockdown.’

        All those who fled Auckland to Rotorua and then went `hunting’ around Queenstown (lower South Island) to avoid the lockdown, will sneak back into Auckland. Of course they didn’t “have Covid” having been “tested six weeks” earlier. Typhoid Mary and her big “brother.”

        What else have I missed?

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      Henning Nielsen

      There is something very, very strange about the way the Democrats in charge are acting. They have full power, yet give the impression of being in a mad rush to wreak as much havoc in the USA as possible before…what? They behave like guilt-ridden kids in a candy shop. Like something bad and huge is looming over their shoulders. Like a flea on a table that knows extinction is coming fast.

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    Yonniestone

    I know this will raise some eyebrows but I saw this a few weeks ago and its still being circulated THE CAPITOL HILL SHOOTING PSY-OP CONFIRMED

    It shows a breakdown of events happening with possible explanations of why some things seem off or out of context, I’m not claiming anything but looking at all the evidence and views is still a good way to work out the truth isn’t it?

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      Gail Combs

      Yonnie,
      On another site I frequent, several of whom were at the capital, they have dissected that ‘shooting’ As a group we decided it was ‘theatre’ There were just too many things that were out of kilter.

      From memory:
      The cops getting out of the way so ‘Furry hat’ could break the window in the door.

      The cops flattening themselves against the wall so they did not get sh0t.

      NO ONE running away when the girl was sh0t.

      No hysterics or fainting by anyone in the crowd.

      The cops ALLOWING amateurs to deal with the wound INCLUDING allowing the woman to be lifted. (A real no-no for someone who has fallen.)

      The cops ALLOWING furry hat to walk pass them and stop and change his cloths a few feet away. (WHY wasn’t he arrested on the spot?)

      I have watched several videos at 25% speed and the whole mess stinks of set-up.

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        Yonniestone

        Another one was the young man on video outside shortly after yelling to anyone that listened about a woman getting shot inside and how angry everyone should be, I’ve seen plenty of genuine angry people and he wasn’t one of them, it was poor acting intended to incite a reaction from the crowd, remember it goes from a group to a gathering to a protest to a mob, the players involved were desperately trying to turn what was a gathering into a mob and if that didn’t succeed then they’d play the part for fake news.

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    Aloha! As a bloody yank after what the FBI, CIA, NSA, WHO, UN, BLM, DEM, CNN et al did during Trump’s four year impeachment I now have new thought process whenever I see anyone from those entities on tv.

    MY 2021 FIRST THOUGHTS WHEN I WATCH TV NOW
    1-FBI is now untrustworthy and highly political
    2-CIA is owned by Brennan and should be disbanded for corruption and dishonesty
    3-NSA I believe everything Snowden said years ago and is anti-American
    4-WHO is owned by the CCP and will say anything the CCP wants for the right price
    5-UN ditto #4
    6-BLM if you’re Marxist and white otherwise blacks are backs own worst enemy not even Karl would join them
    7-DEM is a party that would make Mussolini and Khrushchev proud as not even JFK would be a Democrat today
    8-Clinton News Network is now Corrupt News Network owned by the modern version of the East India Trading Company as not even Putin could create a better Pravda

    During the Trump era you would hear on FOX that it was only the upper echelon of the FBI that was corrupt as all the lower field agents were still hardworking honest employees. I always say BS! They are all just as corrupt because they are too afraid to speak out since if they did they’d lose their pensions. Same with the police. Their oath they took was meaningless if it means they have to give up their pensions! Instead of the motto “To protect and serve” they need to change it to “Pension above Law”! Why else would cops obey known corrupt politicians and go out and beat law abiding citizens carrying out unconstitutional lockdown decrees?

    It’s not new. It happened in ancient Rome … it’s human nature, greed and survival all rolled into one failure!

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      Gail Combs

      I think there are a heck of a lot of us yanks who think the same.

      However you left out the corrupt District Attorneys and Judges — bought and paid for by G. Soros.

      As I found out on more than one occasion, if you are a registered (R) you are fair game for the drug addict thieves and nothing will be done even if you catch them red handed. Our county is so corrupt the cop who lives near me refuses to work here!

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        Aloha! Right! I did not want to turn into a 12 stepper! If the top three on my list are corrupt then it’s understood the rest of the legal system is corrupt as well! lol!

        “Corruption is why we win!” What movie was that line in?

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    YallaYPoora Kid

    Spelling – We’re they there to overthrow

    should be Were . . .

    [Thank you for finding that]ED

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    Peter C

    “I believe that the only shots that were fired were the ones that resulted in the death of the lady,” Sanborn also testified, referring to the officer-involved shooting of Ashli Babbit.

    So far I have not heard of any inquiry into the death of this lady. Nor inquest, nor coroners investigation, not autopsy.

    Is it possible that nothing will be done?

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      David-of-Cooyal-in-Oz

      G’day Peter C,
      Do you really expect an inquiry into a rather poorly acted segment of street fiction?
      Cheers
      Dave B

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      Clyde Spencer

      From what I have seen and read, it was excessive use of force. There was no attempt to use non-lethal force before resorting to deadly force on an unarmed woman. However, I don’t expect any charges to be filed.

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      Yonniestone

      Peter C my link above gives a good perspective of what might have happened that day, Grant posted the same one #29 and his link has better comments that gives the video more validity.

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      Henning Nielsen

      Peter C, it is very possible that nothing will be done concerning Ashli Babbit. Because everything has been done already, though it was very low-class theatre. Now that her ash(li)es are in the sea, I bet she enjoys a well-funded new life, courtesy of Pelosi herself.

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        Peter C

        Thanks Yonnie and Henning and Grant,

        I have seen the video. It is pretty obvious that a young woman was not shot and did not die. Consequently I think Ashli Babbit must have been invented.
        However given that the FBI is saying publicly that she was shot and killed I would have expected that inquiries were mandatory. Strangely they are not happening.

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          Yonniestone

          I recall you suggesting this at the time Peter and was cautioned by a Mod for being too radical in thought?

          Nothing against the Mods as they have to curtail any conversations that could go into murky legal territory but you’re instincts are good.

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      Gail Combs

      The person who shot her was never named and was cleared of all wrong doing.

      After all she was white and supposedly a Republican not an African-American druggie. (And yes I am getting very cynical at this point.)

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    roman

    If they had bows and arrows they would have been given a standing ovation on entry, free land, and an apology for not having their amazing awesomeness recognised sooner.

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    Mark Smith

    An insurrection that achieved everything it set out to do and achieved almost nothing. A coup that totally succeeded but didn’t change the government. Multiple groups have no idea what it takes to have a coup in a modern country. Fuss is made of Nancy Pelosi whereabout being put on Twitter- there are these called the Secret Service who carry guns at all times who accompanying her- the insider why didn’t that person give the insurrectionist heavy shotguns to kill Nancy. Far more the insider was one of her dumb aides trying to make Nancy look good. The pipe bombs- the FBI bomb squad regularly sweeps the Capitol Building and the White House.

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    Grant

    Hi Jo:
    Not sure if you saw this post on The Richardson Post, but its worth having a look at:

    https://forbiddenknowledgetv.net/everything-wrong-with-the-capitol-shooting-in-21-minutes-or-less/

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      UK-Weather Lass

      I had to watch parts of this footage three or more times to really comprehend the narrator’s commentary because there is so much going on that really doesn’t equate with what I have experienced in real emergencies. It doesn’t convince me that what I am watching is for real, but perhaps I am being far too cynical or biased.

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        David-of-Cooyal-in-Oz

        G’day UK Lass,
        I found I had to watch it at half speed to get a solid understanding of what was happening. The sound is distorted, but understandable. And it takes about 45 minutes to watch it all, but is time usefully spent in my view.
        Cheers
        Dave B

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    Ed Zuiderwijk

    The problem the Democrats face is that the next mass protest by conservatives will be [Snip. Sorry Ed that is a little too close to suggesting violence. That may not have been your intent but these days we have to consider how things will be interpreted through woke colored glasses]ED

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    Sibyl

    People reported poles, knives, bear spray being used as weapons by the Antifa posing as MAGA.

    Wray has lied twice before Congress:
    1. Saying that the biggest danger and source of violence in our country is white supremacists….he said this while BLM and Antifa were burning, looting and assaulting freely in Democrat hell-holes.
    2. Saying there were no Antifa involved in the January 6 ‘insurrection’ at the Capitol while they have the head of Antifa in custody for entering the Capitol.

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    Zigmaster

    It was clear from the Time magazine that everything the Democrats did was orchestrated to achieve one thing . To get Donald Trump. But they also planned the circumstances not only to rig the election but to plan actions if Trump refused to hand over power. They admitted that they had planned for Antica and BLM protests if Trump failed to concede. There is no doubt in my mind that the breach of the Capital whether due to failure to shore up security or to infiltrate the protestors with Antica and BLM stooges.
    Politically they would’ve been aware that election integrity could not be discussed at the confirmation of the electoral vote as anyone who is forced to hear the evidence cannot be but suspicious that all was not kosher. Not just all the affidavits but the huge number of statistical Ana molies that favoured Joe Biden. If you were an auditor faced with such statistical anomalies these would be a red flag that a forensic audit was required. This was the exact thing that the Republicans were going to demand and whilst that was unlikely because of the Rinos it was vital that this did not occur. Once the breech of the Capital occurred then any discussion of forensic audit disappeared. The benefit of the riot was to clearly to the benefit of the Democrats, having already admitted to rigging the election it would be logical to assume that the Jan 6 riots were equally rigged.
    The Times magazine makes it very clear that the Democrats influence over leftist special interest groups, lawyers, judges and politicians , media and big tech would be used to implement their steal. No doubts it worked.

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      Gail Combs

      Here is more:

      Capitol Police Were Sent Home Early On Insurrection Day So They Couldn’t Help

      According to officers with the Capitol Police force, many of them were actually sent home EARLY last Wednesday, even though they had all been warned about the incoming threat to the Capitol….

      Transcript:

      *This transcript was generated by a third-party transcription software company, so please excuse any typos.

      According to one of the police officers who works on Capitol Hill, he and many of his colleagues were actually actually sent home early, early last Wednesday, January six, the day of that stopped the steel riot. And then he says in an interview with business insider, uh, while he remained anonymous, uh, he says that we were never called back. We were just sitting, watching this from home, wondering why our phones weren’t ringing telling us, hi, um, kind of a situation we’re going to need you to come back into, But nothing. The officer says nothing. I think to me, the biggest problem with us obviously is they were sent home early. There is no excuse for what happened on the Capitol last week or the lack luster. You could call it response from Capitol Hill police. We have all known that this was going to happen. Okay? These stop, the steel people were very adamant that they post every, every detail about what they were going to do online. Prior to the event happening. It didn’t take a super sleuth. You didn’t have to have Sherlock Holmes come out and try to crack the case of what may or may not happen on January six….

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        Simon B

        Quite right Gail, you don’t need a super slueth, but isn’t that the basis of the last 4 years in the States? The left, including using the tech oligarchs, trashmedia activists and the useful idiots of blm and antifa haven’t been hiding their intentions! They have been using open character assassination of any conservative who they think may get traction with moderates, they have bombarded the world with propaganda and moved from calling opponents deniers to branding everyone tacist and or mysogynists, so they are forced into an unwinnable cycle of trying to defend against blatant lies, all the while doing exactly what they claim to be fighting against and then combating opposition with ‘ridiculous, they’re trying to deflect from their crimes. Remember, we already told you about that?’ It has been well orchestrated and has a large number of components on many fronts.
        The problem is Gail, those who saw what was happening and worse to come were alienated from support, because conservatives wouldn’t fight fire with fire. Trump was an outsider and the conservative swamp dwellers closed ranks to protect their own future. Kavanaugh was sacrificed , with accusers emboldened enough to come out afterwards and say they deliberately made it up for political reasons! THAT’S the extent they are prepared to go to win their goal of Marxist one party rule.
        Thankfully Australia stood up to Facebook and Google and showed the 48 US states with lawsuits pending how to fight , but they will fight back and with Harris as President in 12 months or so when Joe is Amendment 25 into the home for the terminally bewildered, the Lefts agenda will go into overdrive with a compliant House and Senate and the full use of the tech oligarchs propaganda.

        Weak conservatives, led by Pence are at fault here for providing no support for Trump while they had the Senate, if they don’t stand up soon, the writing is on the wall for democracy world wide.

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    graham dunton

    An extremely interesting interview, by Jason Goodman, of CSTT, of John Earle Sullivan.
    Mar 6, 2021 at 1:01 AM
    John Earle Sullivan in His Own Words
    (SIC)John Earle Sullivan has gained notoriety in the wake of George Floyd’s death, BLM protests and the events of January 6 (EQ)

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ujgEcTGWaPI&t=833s

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    Richard Ilfeld

    Being involved in a news story can leave one a bit disgusted.
    Vaccination in Florida has generally gone very well.
    There was a recent story, however, that the appointment system at on center had somehow failed,
    and that seniors had to wait up to four hours to get vaccinated.
    Big play on the nation evening news: “see folks, Florida is not so great”.

    The ground truth; the local affiliate of the network announced, in error, the day before, that
    shots would be available at the site in question to all over 65, even without appointments.
    The Country folks, through an extraordinary effort, scrambled and collected enough shots to
    take care of all who showed up; they did give priority to those with appointments. Those willing to
    wait did get a shot and a legitimate appointment for the second. Somehow, the source of the problem
    escaped network notice. Yes, the extreme wait time was four hours. Not only did the county folks
    scramble for vaccine, but, with the help of a couple of local businesses, they got snacks and water to
    seniors waiting in their cars; nd got those needing facilities to them. Sometimes, at the human level, its
    enough to make one believe in local government.

    What did you see? “FLorida seniors wait four hours in car for shots as system bogs down.”

    There is another story, so typical, that the governor has set up pop-up centers in a couple of rural, but
    wealthy locations. The featured complainant is the agricultural commissioner, somehow the only statewide official
    of the opposing party. Again the networks gleefully picked up jabbing the rich and not the poor, doncha know.
    Somehow missing from the news was the fact that there were similar pop-up centers in every single Florida county, based
    solely on population centers of elderly more than 20 miles from mass sites.

    If the story isn’t what you want it to be, make something up!

    Perhaps (or perhaps not), like the gun(s)? in DC, there was truth in the story.
    At least one person did wait at least four hours.

    Does one piece of truth in a story make the story true?

    AS I read the arguments for and against above, I think we have all lost our minds, or our perspective….
    Armed insurrection, or not — how many guns?

    We came here to talk about climate change and common sense.
    WE are skeptics, because if, over a mere 15 Millenia, we can see a full ice age disappear, a mile of ice covering a continent melt, sea levels move hundreds of feet,
    and continents sculpted without an SUV in sight; 50 years of burning petro & emitting magic molecules is not likely to swamp the planet.

    Same mind set, what exactly was the threat, and the response (or presponse) in DC. In a city that went through what I might call real rioting just last summer?

    The force set up to protect DC have been argued to be one some of the most sophisticated in the world, and we’ve certainly spent as if they were. Why aren’t we talking about
    one of the more massive security force failures in history? An our good luck that the folks who “breached” the building weren’t actually especially violent.

    In your minds eye, remember a few armed terrorist in a modern hotel in Mumbai….or any other such incident.

    And for God’s sake get back to using common sense before buying into and arguing about a contrived narrative.

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    Harves

    Just saw the 60 minutes interview with cow-horn guy. They asked him what he did and he said that he was a Shaman, so he sang a song, prayed and tried to stop someone stealing food. Said his biggest mistake was believing that when security waived them into the Capitol that this meant they were legally allowed to be there.
    So this guy is still in jail, while the ABC’s paid Antifa terrorist John Sullivan (who just happened to know where to be filming when an unarmed woman was murdered) was immediately released. Go figure.

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      Harves

      So since 6 Jan we have seen only BLM and Antifa riots across the US, yet somehow the only place locked down is DC … because of potential right wing protestors. Yeah, right.
      New theory: they are just trying to keep the noise down because Biden needs his afternoon nap.

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        Simon B

        It’s like Dan’s covid power extension in Victoria to December, well past the October timeframe that the Federal government indicated will be time the vaccine will have shown its effect. These leftwing totalitarian ‘instruments of control’ are designed to con the weakminded left wing apologists into believing the strong leaders are doing everything to curb the imminent threat.

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      Kalm Keith

      You got it.

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    Simon B

    Has the American public and indeed the West been swallowing this trashmedia drivel for so long now that they needed ‘confirmation’ of what their own eyes told them at the time?
    Have we become so lazy as a species that we are going to allow a rewrite of history and ignore the tenet; ‘a picture paints a thousand words’? It was plainly obvious that the vision of camera phones and flags showed the crowds intent and any thinking adult knows if guns were present then the world would have known about it on the day.
    If we continue to allow the trashmedia to disemminate excrement, then we will become a sewer.
    It was obvious that the crowd was screaming for Pence to stand up. It is now obvious in light of his comments this week that Pence was protecting his position in the swamp like every other expedient career politician. He knew there was enough to work with at the time, he just proved he was a coward, because media perception is all that swamp dwellers respond to.

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