Tuesday Open Thread

Please report here any site glitches and or speed issues. I hope to have fixed at least the strange lack of updating that occurred on some browsers in the last week but not in others.

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    Matty

    So the leader of the free world at the moment is an Italian kid from new York….??
    Here we are……Go Rudy….

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    For a while the posts on my computer (through Telsta NBN) would not update (about 4 days behind) on Firefox, Chrome or Edge but my Samsung 7ins pad on Wifi was OK. The joannenova.com site seems to be OK today. Jo you are doing a great job keeping everyone informed. Did you notice the study on masks by a Danish lead team. It appears Fauci in US, and the health team in VIc. did not. Luckily here in Qld we have not been forced to wear masks which do not work unless they are sealed and oxygen is suppiled (maybe scuba gear)

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    OriginalSteve

    Here you go…exactly as predicted…..no vaccine, no travel.

    Never mind it crushes your human rights….and the virus is mostly harmless. But hey, we knew that.

    So if you have a bad reaction to a DNA altering vaccine, what then?

    I wonder if you get a complementary nano-RFID chip implanted via vaccine as well?

    So what alternatives are there?

    People are gagging to travel, so in a typical Problem-Reaction-Solution that the NWO does well, they are letting you travel ( hey..how kind…) as long as you bow before them as a serf and let them violate your person with an unnecessary, and possibly unknown & dangerous medical procedure, youre a “good” and obedient sheep…er…serf….er….subject….er….citizen…..

    Soma, anyone?

    Guess I will stay in australia bound the rest of my life. And if it means missing out of going to the footy, and flying etc, I honestly dont really care.

    https://www.msn.com/en-au/news/australia/qantas-looks-at-smartphone-app-for-covid-19-vaccine-passport/ar-BB1biFH4?ocid=mailsignout&li=AAgfLCP

    “A COVID-19 “vaccination passport” that Qantas and other airlines will likely require for international flights is set to be contained within a smartphone app, as positive news about the development of several vaccines buoys hopes of a return to quarantine-free travel.

    “Qantas chief executive Alan Joyce said on Monday his airline was looking to make it compulsory for passengers to prove they are vaccinated against COVID-19 before boarding flights to or from Australia, and that he expected this to become common across the industry.

    ……………..

    “American carrier United Airlines is trialing an alternative system called CommonPass app, which was developed by the World Economic Forum, on flights between London and New York. Hong Kong and Singapore are considering using the same app when they establish a “travel bubble”.

    Notice the American one was developed by the World Economic Forum……no suprises there…..

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      Annie

      What happens if, like me, you have an Australia-only SIM?

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        Gary Simpson

        Or, like me, you do not have or want a smartphone?

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          Hanrahan

          I had been on call for years. When I retired I binned my phone.

          To charge an EV in the US you NEED a smart phone, I assume it will be similar here, so I will never own an EV.

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            Gary Simpson

            My ambition, Hanrahan, is to do precisely that on retirement in the next couple of years. I refuse to be on call 24 hrs. a day and hopefully, I will have a life to live that I have looked forward to for years. Just because a particular technology is available to you, it does not automatically follow that it is good, necessary or even desirable. I know that these thoughts may be heretical to non baby boomers, but we remember when life was so much better BECAUSE it was simpler. I raise a glass to you. Slainte.

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            PeterPetrum

            I was the Crisis Controller for the company I worked with for 13 years. Mobile phones were just coming in the (late 1970’s) and they weighed a ton. Then we had Blackberries that were a lot easier to carry about 24/7. Glad all that was over a long time ago.

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      greggg

      With surveys showing a majority of people do not intend to get a covid vaccine, airlines that require a vaccine passport will lose customers.
      ‘Mr Joyce said whether Qantas passengers would need to be vaccinated for domestic flights would depend on rates of COVID-19 infection in Australia.’ If they are stupid enough to try it with domestic flights their profits will take a huge hit. Road trip anyone?

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      greggg

      “CommonPass is a cog in this Great Reset plan. It’s the beginning stage of mass tracking and tracing, under the guise of keeping everyone safe from infectious disease. Rest assured, it will not be limited to COVID-19. The pandemic is just the justification for ushering in this radical new way of life.”
      https://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2020/11/24/commonpass.aspx

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      Spetzer86

      And what will you do when you need the vaccine to get groceries or money from the ATM? The new 666 vaccine could be all the rage across the entire economy.

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      glen Michel

      Like you OS I’m suspicious of any modern vaccine- especially one for this virus. Too many insidious things are compiling in this brave new world of ours. Stand firm against the emergent tyranny.

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      Hanrahan

      There was a woman on Fox Au defending QANTAS’s mandate that every passenger must be vaccinated. She said she didn’t want to be on a plane with other un-vaxed passengers.

      Why should she care? She has HAD the vax [I assume] so is immune. Why does she insist everyone “Show me your papers”?

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      DonS

      Yes Steve well spotted. This is just the start. Next, no jab no job, then no jab no shop etc. etc.

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      Kalm Keith

      Just a monstrous dose of Verbalism: confused and way too long.

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      David Wojick

      Andy, if you accept the term “fad” for this kind of cultural factor then I agree. Renewables are a fad.

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        Hi David. Partially. Fads are are culture writ small, and are typically thought of as quick, plus often within a very narrow domain context. As Renewables Deployment (RD) has been increasing over very many years, that it ends up dominated by an easily measurable cultural trend, means that the cultural effect must have applied throughout. Plus the trend is robust across different ethnicities, geographies, governments of every system and regime type, and every main Faith. Indeed bypassing the trend of the climate-change attitude and looking at RD motivation against national religiosities (Postscript 2), also shows a very strong trend (r=0.65 ranked, 0.6 for GDP normalised MW per Capita values). Given religions are the most entrenched cultures we have, it’s hard to call corresponding RD a fad, unless we stretch the definition to include decadal phenomena. Plus, the climate attitudes shown in Chart 1 dictate much more than RD, but many other effects in the climate domain (see the ‘Summary’ file linked at the end). For instance the amount of climate advocacy, per XR and children’s strikes. I can kind of see XR being called a ‘fad’, but this is not usually used for something so seriously addressed or indeed (by many) seriously received. A ‘secular religion’ is more what I would call this, and indeed David Archibald plus others quoted use exactly the term ‘religion’.

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    Jojodogfacedboy

    Our new piece of crap forced to buy new electric cars are proving to be another bad government policy. The computer components are breaking down much earlier than anticipated. The battery overloads are needing to reset to 90% of charge. The manufacturer has control of your computer components to set when it’s time to need a new one.
    It is dangerous to work on with electrocution concerns.
    Batteries are explosive and can catch fire.
    Our biggest cargo carriers still use fuel. How will this change over?
    It will be illegal by government imposed laws.

    And yet our governments hate our current vehicles.

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      MrGrimNasty

      I don’t want to insult anyone, but obviously it’s worth trying reloading, or clearing your browser history for the site, when owners have been tinkering. It can untwist the knickers.

      Not had any problems myself running stoneage system & browser, just slightly slow to load/refresh sometimes.

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      Spetzer86

      You forgot that the car’s owner (you’re only renting it if you don’t have full control) can determine how you’ll charge and will know where you’ve been. After your phone, your electric car will be your biggest leash on life.

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    Chad

    This is for Anton (Tony Oz) and others interested in the RE vs Fossil generation debate…
    You may find this report on LCOE Costs from the US institute for Energy Reserch , interesting as it paints a very different,… (more realistic ?), picture compared to the “ conventional” picture….
    Their LCOE costs in US$ per kWh are re calculated at….
    Coal…$71
    CC Gas..$50
    Nuclear..$75
    Wind..$90
    Solar..$89

    The report utilises the concept of “Firm Generation Contribution” to show the true effective capability and relative “Overnight cost” of installing new capacity for various technologies in US$/W such that
    CCGas is 1.1 $/W
    Coal is 2.9 $/W
    Nuclear is 6.3 $/W
    Solar is. 7.8 $/W
    Wind is 23.8 $/W !
    … rather different to conventional understanding ?

    Further , they introduce the concept of “Imposed Cost” to quantify the financial effect of intermittent power sources (Wind and Solar) into a dispactchable system.
    They calculate this on cost at..
    Wind..$24 /MWh
    Solar ..$21 /Mwh
    …this in addition to all other generation costs for those technologies. .

    https://www.instituteforenergyresearch.org/wp-content/uploads/2019/06/IER_LCOE2019Final-.pdf

    Our report has two principal findings:
    First:…. that, on average, continuing to operate existing natural gas, coal, nuclear and hydroelectric resources
    is far less costly than building and operating new plants to replace them. Existing coal-fired power plants, for example, can generate electricity at an average LCOE of $41 per megawatt-hour, whereas we project the LCOE
    of a new coal plant operating at a similar duty cycle to be $71 per MWh. Similarly, we estimate existing combined- cycle (CC) gas power plants can generate electricity at an average LCOE of $36 per MWh, whereas we project the LCOE of a new CC gas plant to be $50 per MWh.
    Second: ….is a calculation of the costs that non-dispatchable wind and solar generation resources impose on the dispatchable generation resources which are required
    to remain in service but are forced to generate less in combination with them. Non-dispatchable means that the level of output from wind and solar resources depends on factors beyond our control and cannot be relied upon to follow load fluctuations nor consistently perform during peak loads. Wind and solar resources increase the LCOE of dispatchable resources they cannot replace by reducing their utilization rates without reducing their fixed costs, resulting in a levelized fixed cost increase.
    Our calculations estimate that the “imposed cost” of wind
    generation is about $24 per MWh (of wind generation) when we model the cost against new CC gas generation it might displace, and the imposed cost of solar generation is about $21 per MWh (of solar generation) when we model the CC and combustion turbine (CT) gas generation it might displace. The average LCOEs from existing coal ($41), CC gas ($36), nuclear ($33) and hydro ($38) resources are less than half the cost of new wind resources ($90) or new PV solar resources ($88.7) with imposed costs included.

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      Shad
      I’m not reading the report you mentioned because I’ve read enough reports on the cost of solar and wind. Almost all of them understate those costs.

      This one is written by a business degree person and a computer degree person = not qualified.

      In general, these reports fail to include ALL costs of solar and wind energy. Missed costs may include:

      — Cost of closing old fossil fuel plants, including environmental clean-up, plus paying off their debt (money is owed, even if the plant are shut down).

      — Government subsidies and mandates for solar and wind power, paid for by the taxpayers and the utility customers, respectively.

      — Batteries for up to a week of power = EXTREMELY expensive

      — The need for staffed and ready to go fossil fuel 100 percent backup … operating at low efficiency because of intermittent use

      — Land for new wind and solar farms — lots of land — plus long transmission lines to where the electricity is needed

      — Bazillions of dead birds and bats

      — Cost to dispose of worn out solar panels and wind turbines

      Replacing cheap, reliable sources of power with expensive, intermittent, unreliable sources of electric power = shooting yourself in the foot.

      The current electric grid is the foundation of economic growth. Why spend a huge amount of money to make it worse?

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        Hard social data shows that across many nations, actual Renewables Deployment is due to a cultural attitude, so not due so to say the climate or climate exposure of nations, or climate science or energy pragmatics. And a consequence of this is that national Renewables Deployments also anti-correlate very strongly with national religiosities, an entirely cultural phenomenon. See the link at #4 above 🙂

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          P.S. another consequence is that the smaller is the annual sunshine duration of nations, the more nations there are that deploy more Solar Power, i.e. exactly where it is least useful. For why see Postscript 2 at the link in comment #4, plus Chart 4 (also below).
          https://wearenarrative.files.wordpress.com/2020/10/solar-deployment-versus-sunshine-hours-1-e1602064647929.jpg

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            Chad

            Ii do not believe you can call that a “Cultural” factor…
            Remember ..”Green” is a political movement, not a cultural one
            .hence .it is much more accurate to see it as a “Political” factor ..which in turn could be influenced by financial links etc

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              Hi Chad. Look at the data. The trends are very robust across many nations having all sorts of different political systems and regimes, and indeed very different economic systems and sizes too. The national attitudes to climate-change, including the weak-reality-constrained one that drives Renewables, have a stable relationship with national religiosities across all of those nations, and no matter which main Faith they foster. (Religions are just examples of cultural entities, and will interact with other cultural entities, such as catastrophic climate-change culture). So per the David Archibald plus Michael Schellenberger quotes in the Post, this social data completely backs their assumption that there is essentially a ‘secular religion’ around climate-change. Any political movements inspired by same, are secondary.

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          P.P.S. ‘deploy more Solar Power’ – GDP-per-capita normalised and per capita

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        Kalm Keith

        Right on.

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        Chad

        Richard,…i share your distrust of any “official” data but we often need a common reference to compare data.
        This is the first report that i have seen which includes factors for both indirect costs and “repercussion” cost ( they term it “Imposed cost”) of RE in a Utility grid
        IAs a result, it is the first LCOE asessment i have come across that suggests Coal and Nuclear as being lower cost that Wind or Solar ..
        I am sure it does not cover ALL the possible cost factors, but it is a big step away from the sterile versions previously presented.

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      Kalm Keith

      These figures show very little separation in costing which I find hard to believe.

      Previous estimates I’ve seen put nuclear way ahead of coal in cost but much cheaper than wind and solar.

      In this assessment the costings seem to be too close and one might be suspicious that it’s purpose is to paint renewables as being “within reach” in 2020.

      No comment on gas because I don’t know what quantities are available long term.

      When costings are done there’s a big difference in estimates made by politicians on the one hand and engineers on the other.

      KK

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        Chad

        KK,
        I dont know which previous LCOE assesments you have seen , but the common data from the EIA and Lazzards have always put Solar and wind as the cheapest ..generally under $50/MWh with coal and Nuclear as the most expensive at above $75+ /MWh ?
        This report completely reverses that view, infact putting “new” wind installations at the most expensive by far !
        Note… the report has LCOE costs for existing generation plants , and “new” build plants.
        Their concept of “Firm Generation” also puts to be the distortion of “nameplate” and “average” generation from intermittent generators, to the extent that they show the Total contribution of Solar ..including all Roof top capacity,…at just 0.4% of power generated in the USA . !

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      Graeme#4

      Interesting. Last time these LCOE figures were done, they were only across a 30-year period, and didn’t include any solar or wind replacement costs. Also didn’t include the longer lifetimes of coal, gas and nuclear power stations. Haven’t read the report yet, but I’m hoping that the comparison time period is 50 years.

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    greggg

    “Of all tyrannies, a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron’s cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end…To be ‘cured’ against one’s will and cured of states which we may not regard as disease is to be put on a level of those who have not yet reached the age of reason or those who never will; to be classed with infants, imbeciles, and domestic animals.” CS Lewis, 1948.

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      John R Smith

      Trudeau seems giddy with delight in anticipation the of visionary Great Reset.
      Biden just thinks it’s a benign ‘idea’ like Antifa.
      Most of the casualties, like moi, do not anticipate the happiness he and his fellow Saviors plan on inflicting.
      So the the unhappy will have to be dealt with.
      Some non-believers will have to be removed from society if we are save the planet and create an Eden of Inclusion and Diversity (of skin color not of thought, of course)… oh, and we can’t forget universal Empathy.
      Made easier by removal of the non-empathic (like moi).
      If only the poor folk of Heracleion could have known about decarbonization and been ruled by such benevolent overlords as Trudeau and the IPCC.
      Thankfully, Mr. Obama’s seaside estate will be saved.

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    First there was very slow loading of the home page. Then no loading at all.

    I used three types of internet browser software (Safari, Chrome and Firefox) on an old Apple MacBook Pro (from 1953, with vacuum tubes).

    Then the home page was always the “1775” article, which I have now read 15 times.

    Now the home page is up to date, and loads quickly.

    But the comments take up to 10 seconds to load, with 10 seconds equivalent to 10 minutes of pre-internet time. I go berserk after four seconds.

    I was very surprised this morning when the Jo Nova home page started with an “article” featuring scantily clad photographs of Jo Nova, in her days as a swimsuit model (last year).

    If that’s a new glitch, I don’t mind it at all. Hubba hubba.

    I can’t wait for the next glitch.

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      PeterPetrum

      Same for me, time wise, on an iPad (latest model Air 2). Takes at least 10 seconds to load comments, even after posting. Has been worse, and is acceptable but I suppose could be better, Jo.

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    Re reporting glitches: After pushing ‘post’, takes about a minute before everything is done and the page comes back up with all the comments displayed. Doesn’t actually stop, but vey slow. I’m on Win 10 / Chrome.

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      Yes. It appears we get the latest pages now, but at night time AU time it’s very slow. So I’m still in need of another solution./

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        EJW

        It sounds like it is server side.
        Questions like:
        *Not what the stated connected speed is. What is the actual recorded speed, incoming and outgoing of all data.
        *What are the precise times that glitches occur.
        *Are there log files that record comprehensible, granular data.
        *The processing (CPU) load on the server in real time.
        *How old is the hardware.
        *What virus/hacker protection do you use and what its resource load, when running.
        *If there is one, what is the limit of traffic your server can handle before it slows.
        *Denial of Service attacks
        *Is your publishing software up to date.
        *Is your site tested in all browsers and consider Mac/Windows issues.
        *What is the server company’s maintenance cycle and what software they use may have an impact by its own processing load.
        *What is the status/experience of other company’s that use your provider.
        *Users may have country/region traffic capacity issues on their side.
        What is the backup power for the servers given Australia’s interesting power (frequency/voltage) dynamics. As well as further down the data delivery stream within Australia.

        *What is the political “bent” of the company provider and the technicians on your staff. It only takes one technician/coder to throw in some spurious code that can be quite innocuous that could affect traffic and/or processing (had to throw in a conspiracy theory lump). 🙂

        I have not had issues with your site other than font size to small for my old eyes.

        Nothing works right 100% of the time.
        Impatience is not a virtue.

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          EJW

          I lied. I posted the previous comment and the engine that handles that request hung for a while. Seems to me like the subroutine process(es) for comments may be at the root.
          Patience a likely cure.

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        robert rosicka

        No right side of screen options on startup and very slow this is early in the morning on the east coast using Safari .
        Reset a few times no change tried again after an hour and all good but still slow .

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    I though it was worth another look at eisenhowers great speech from 1961 where he talks about the undue influence of the science technological elite which we certainly see with the mad actions to combat climate change and covid 19

    https://avalon.law.yale.edu/20th_century/eisenhower001.asp

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    RicDre

    Famous Failed Predictions: UK Offshore Wind Edition

    The Grauniad:

    Wind energy to power UK by 2020, government says

    Louise Radnofsky and agencies

    Mon 10 Dec 2007 11.20 EST

    Thousands of new offshore wind turbines could power every home in Britain by 2020, the government announced today, as it set out new wind-energy plans.

    According to BP’s 2020 Statistical Review of World Energy, in 2019 the UK generated about 20% of its electricity from wind power.

    https://wattsupwiththat.com/2020/11/24/famous-failed-predictions-uk-offshore-wind-edition/

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    Richard

    Inspired by Jo’s handbook, I made a little handbook of my own if anyone wants to check it out: https://chipstero7.wordpress.com/2020/11/14/the-skeptical-cagw-handbook/

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      Richard, you did a very good job.
      I would suggest an additional page of several popular coming climate crisis predictions, showing they have been 100 percent wrong since the 1960s. The coming climate crisis is nothing more than 50+ years of scary predictions, supported by computer games that grossly over predict actual global warming.

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    Richard Ilfeld

    The walking corpse has announced a bunch of appointments.
    Their little fifth grade speeches all boiled down to the same thing.

    American isn’t really all the important so we are going to go out to make sure we kow tow to the rest of the world in international organizations again.
    All of the failed policies of the Obama administration will be reinstated as quickly as possible.
    We need to get really serious about the climate crisis, which impacts everything we do and is an existential issue.
    But you’ll all be fine because we’re getting the band back together.

    AMENDMENT X

    The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people.

    We’ll see. I hope for a constitution separation of those who have no wish to be governed by Democrat fiat. I expect Civil Disobedience will be required. This is not unprecedented.

    The most egregious and fastest “dear colleague” letters will likely come from the Education Department, FERC, and the Labor Department.
    Essentially, these will constitute executive orders without the need of any formality beyond a second or third level bureaucrat’s wish and a single hack circuit judge’s consent.
    I’d expect Gov deSantis of Florida and Gov Abbot of Texas to be among those to say “pound sand” — if their citizens support them we’ll find out if the Supreme Court still makes a difference.

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    yarpos

    Re speed and browsers:

    Firefox = page template loads quickly , long delay 20sec ish till comments load

    Brave = page and comments load quickly

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      Peter C

      I have similar load times using Chrome.

      Is Brave a server?

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        Hanrahan

        Brave is a browser with a built in ad-blocker. On my old Mac mini with 4 gb of memory the only downside is that you can’t have many windows open. Each open window has its own file in memory using up to 250 mb.

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    Peter C

    Jo was featured on a Webinar last night, hosted by the Australian Environmental Foundation and the GWPF.
    She made some very pertinent comments about bushfires.

    The other speakers were Peter Ridd (great barrier reef) and Alan Moran.

    I don’t know how she manages it all.

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    David Wojick

    Here is something warm and fuzzy for a change. A new way to look at animal behavior.

    My research on animal reasoning:

    https://www.cfact.org/2020/11/24/animal-instincts-could-be-inherited-expert-knowledge/

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    DonS

    Hi Jo

    On this mandatory vaccine requirement that QANTAS is planning to implement. Will they also be requiring us to prove we have been vaccinated for small pox, measles, polio, diphtheria, hepatitis etc. before we fly? These are all far more deadly than Wuhan-19 and actually have effective vaccines. Of course members of any socialist or green party are assumed to have a natural immunity so they will not need to be tested will they?

    I can not help but wonder why a company like QANTAS, that has been in recept of 100’s of millions of dollars in taxpayer funds to keep them going for the last 6 months, have now decided that the are going so well financially that they can reduce their possible customer base from 7.5 billion to possibly a few million, if a vaccine works, if it can distributed, if, if, if. Alan Joyce is the king of woke corporate culture in Australia but I think this announcement is nothing but a publicity stunt. Will QANTAS really just sit by and watch its customers fly on other airlines? The shareholders might not like that and the government might cut off their corporate welfare!

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    Alice Thermopolis

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KpT2Rz4rTWM&feature=emb_rel_end

    BREAKING NEWS: Sidney Powell Tells Lou Dobbs Her Lawsuit In Georgia May Be Filed As Soon As Tomorrow
    329,232 views
    •Nov 24, 2020

    SP: “widespread election fraud” uncovered, “absolutely no doubt”. Trump won “in a landslide”. His presidency “will be saved”.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iTCWszR-6mU

    BREAKING: President Trump Legal Team To Do PUBLIC HEARINGS On Election 2020 | NewsNOW From FOX
    503,193 views
    •Nov 25, 2020

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    Another Ian

    “13th Rule For Life”

    “”Shut the fcuk up before I fire you.”

    http://www.smalldeadanimals.com/index.php/2020/11/24/13th-rule-for-life/

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    Another Ian

    Pointman on

    “FIGHTING BIG TECH – SOME GENERAL THOUGHTS ON PROTECTING YOUR PERSONAL DATA”

    https://thepointman.wordpress.com/2020/11/24/fighting-big-tech-some-general-thoughts-on-protecting-your-personal-data/

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    robert rosicka

    Fire at the new solar subsidy farm at Winton near Glenrowan , not much in the way of detail yet .

    http://emergency.vic.gov.au/respond/?=&bbox=146.16618633270264%2C-36.48231248467595%2C146.19210720062256%2C-36.465713478618426&tm=1606373528015#

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