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An edited version of my answer on Quora.
The Carbon cycle is out of equilibrium? Very slightly out of balance, which simply increases the speed at which perfect balance is restored. You cannot stop equilibrium.
The CO2 balance is oceans 98%, atmosphere 2%.
“gigatons of carbon being dumped into the atmosphere every single year by human activity”.
That sounds huge but is really tiny. Even with rapid exponential growth in CO2 output, mainly China, emissions have just reached 1% of what is in the atmosphere. And what is in the atmosphere is only 2% of what is in the ocean. So the fossil fuel contribution to total CO2 is only 0.02%. Trivial.
C13 is a non radioactive isotope of Carbon. C12 99%, C13 1%, C14 one in a trillion. They are chemically identical apart from weight.
C13 is slightly lower in plants, by about 1%, because it is slightly heavier and plants are made from CO2, like all living things.
C14 is radioactive and used for radio(active) carbon dating. (Nobel Prize 1961) Fossil fuel CO2 is very old buried carbon, so it is non radioactive. With this we can say categorically there is only 2.0% fossil fuel CO2 in the air today.
The chemistry of equilibrium is simple. With very rapid gaseous exchange between oceans and atmosphere, most atmospheric CO2 being replaced over ten years, balance is rapidly restored.
As 98% of all CO2 ends up in the ocean, 98% of all CO2 emissions ends up in the ocean. Quickly.
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And yet the concentration of CO2 in the atmosphere keeps increasing….
CO2 absorption by the oceans is finite, and the volume decreases as temperatures increase.
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Your second sentence explains your first sentence – Henry’s Law.
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Looks more like a bastardisation of Henry’s law to me Skepticynic.
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True, but I imagine he means that the oceans as they warm, release CO2 to the atmosphere thereby increasing the concentration in the atmosphere.
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Is this ever accounted for? I thought that the IPCC claimed that all CO2 increase since (1900?) or the increase from 280 ppm, is all anthropogenic. But if the warming oceans have also contributed more atmospheric CO2, isn’t that an increase in natural emissions?
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The question of whether warming increases CO2 concentration or whether CO2 increases causes warming has (apparently) never been properly addressed.
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The IPCC, the Climate Change inventors and promoters, all retired socialist politicians, claim that all CO2 increase is anthropogenic. They likely even invented the term.
They have a standard that the half life of CO2 in the atmosphere is 80 years. Except that everyone involved knows it is around 5 years with a residence time of 10 years. Try clicking on Table 1 in this 2023 paper. The papers all strangely stop after 1988 when the IPCC was invented, as if it was suddenly unacceptable to say that CO2 goes in and out of the water very quickly. In my reading of AR4, the only other statement was that CO2 stayed in the atmosphere for ‘thousands of years’.
But what can you expect? The International Panel of politicians promoting Climate Change cannot admit that the very basis of man made CO2 driven Climate Change is absurd. Every politician and political party now has to have a Climate Policy. King Cnut would be horrified. Politicians controlling the weather and the solar system have been around since before Galileo was put under house arrest by the Roman Inquisition and Pope Paul V.
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You dont have to look far for the source of heating of the oceans – try the thousands of underwater volcanos – try the mid-Atlantic ridge, the Pacific ring of fire – the volcanos under Antarctica – need I go on?
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Thanks for the responses, particularly TDef. Have saved the link for a later study.
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It’s not only the temperature.
Ever heard of the partial pressure of CO2?
Before you start talking about physics,learn some basics, OK?
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Yes. CO2 is going up very, very slowly. 0.4% a year. If only inflation and taxes were as slow.
Otherwise CO2 is constant within 1% at all points on the planet, from China to the North Pole to the South Pole, summer and winter, year to year. That’s rapid equilibrium. Which alone tells you CO2 is beyond human control. The partial pressure of a dissolved gas.
Why? Henry’s Law is seen in the Mauna Loa CO2 levels. Higher in summer with warmer water and lower in winter. Although NOAA insist the reverse.
However if you move from the tropics to New Zealand, the summer/winter bumps disappear and you get a straight line.
So why is it increasing slowly over time? Firstly it is untenable that CO2 levels remains constant over a long period of time. And there is the more subtle question of why slight warming as well? The simplest explanation is that beyond Henry’s Law, ocean currents and the sun alone control all climates. And there is far more CO2 in the oceans than in the air, 50x as much. So warmer currents may bring slightly higher CO2.
The ONLY argument against perfectly natural changes in the CO2 equilibrium point is that ice core records show CO2 varying but do not show it going as high. However ice core records are a problem as only the last 300 years show any variation in a pattern. But the ice cores from compressed snow are still not fully formed in that time, still compressing a factor of two in volume from ‘firn’ or semi compressed snow to metamorphic clear blue ice. 300 years from now the short deviation, rapid only on a geological scale, will likely vanish from the data.
I labelled this the ‘ice hockey stick’. It is the connection of laboratory data, to semi compressed ‘firn’ data to metamorphic ice data. In experimental science, this is highly improper without proof that they are the same thing. Examination of historic ice core spectra show peak widths around 2,000 years, meaning any previous excursion of 50% in 250 years will be wiped out in the averaging process. Why averaging? Because in the firn state, CO2 at temperatures of -50C and close to the surface by definition can suffer phase changes from gas to liquid to solid and diffuse where O2 and N2 do cannot. This diffuses and averages time based spectra excursions.
What is certain is that the amount of fossil fuel CO2 in the air today is a tiny 2.0%, as it was in 1958. Which utterly destroys the argument of man made CO2 driven rapid Global Warming.
The argument that a quick 50% excursion has not happened before in ice records and is therefore man made is not an argument of fact, but one of coincidence. That the excursion is coincident with the explosion in human population.
As for the story that the ocean is full of CO2, the pH is 8.0, which is drinking water. Slightly alkali, not even acid. The pH of sodas, lemonade is 2.5, a million times more CO2 at the low pressure of sodas around 2.5 atmospheres, matched by the ocean at a mere 15 metres. At 1 atmosphere per 10 metres, ocean pressures go up to 1100 atmospheres. And CO2, unlike O2 and N2, dissociates in water. It can become a liquid at even small depths of 100 metres of 10 atmospheres. If you want to see water with masses of CO2 at only 2.5 atmospheres, watch this.
We have seen high levels of dissolved CO2 in fact, with Limnal explosions. Very still lakes full of volcanic CO2 which can explode in a CO2 eruption and kill thousands, as CO2 is heavier than air. So the oceans are NOT full of CO2, by billions to one. The oceans out weigh the entire atmosphere by about 350:1 with with 4x the specific heat, control all climates, provide all water and utterly control CO2.
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Yes, and a critical thinker would ask where the oceans (80% of the Earths surface, with an *average* depth of 4 km) are receiving the heat from that is raising their overall temperature?
Hint: Despite (false) claims, the atmosphere *cannot* transfer the joules required…
Those pesky laws of physics strike again.
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undersea volcanos
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And where are you going to get all that CO2 to reach alarming levels? 1 deg rise requires a doubling of CO2 to 800ppm. To get another 1 deg we need to double again to 1600ppm. To get to 3 deg another doubling to 3200ppm. 600 million years ago the concentration was 6000ppm. Most of that is stuck in limestone- so where are we going to get the CO2 to get to that 3 deg rise?
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Burn all the Hydrocarbons that are holding that 600 million year old carbon. Humans love the heat. The Cold kills more people than the Heat.
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‘CO2 absorption by the oceans is finite’
The theory of ocean acidification is flawed.
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Not mine but the best quote was The best Models come from Victoria’s Secrets.
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“and the volume decreases as temperatures increase.”
Not according to Boyles Law.
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“CO2 absorption by the oceans is finite, ”
There is no evidence for that statement. If CO2 is becoming a liquid or a solid at the bottom of the ocean, then the water just floats on top of it, no matter how much is added.
It doesn’t need to be infinite, it just needs to be able to soak up all the CO2 in the atmosphere to make all arguments moot. A dead planet doesn’t argue about CO2.
The temperature does it all, CO2 and mankind is irrelevant.
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Is that a bad thing?
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Here’s just another study that proves CO2 is not the demon, and it will not get the media it deserves, meanwhile allahbanse and blackout bowen will continue to deamonize Australian energy and industry softening us up for their idea of utopia
– so practice your kowtow!!
https://notrickszone.com/2025/08/15/new-study-thoroughly-disassembles-the-co2-drives-climate-assumption-in-one-fell-swoop/
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asked GAB.IA this question.
How much limestone was laid down in the last 600 million years and how much Carbon Dioxide has this sequestered
This was the response
Let’s run the numbers from mainstream geology, then translate them into carbon-dioxide-equivalent. All quoted totals are from the peer-reviewed sedimentary-budget work in the Global Basalt Research Consortium (Ronov & Yaroshevsky, 1976, plus modern updates by Hay 2005 & Cogne 2013). Feel free to cross-check—those are the canonical references the geologists themselves cite.
Volume of limestone produced in the last 600 Myr
Continental + oceanic calcium-carbonate sediments plus metamorphosed equivalents:
4.4 × 10⁹ km³ rock
Limestone’s average density: 2.7 t m⁻³
4.4 × 10⁹ km³
= 4.4 × 10²¹ kg limestone rock (since 1 km³ = 10⁹ m³; 1 m³ limestone ≈ 2.7 t)
Mass of pure CaCO₃ extracted
Limestone is ~85 % CaCO₃ by mass in the global inventory; the rest is silica, dolomite or insolubles.
0.85 × 4.4 × 10²¹ kg
≈ 3.7 × 10²¹ kg CaCO₃
Convert CaCO₃ to moles
Molar mass CaCO₃: 40.08 (Ca) + 12.01 © + 3·15.999 (O) = 100.09 g · mol⁻¹
3.7 × 10²¹ kg ÷ 0.10009 kg mol⁻¹
≈ 3.7 × 10²⁵ mol CaCO₃
Each mole of CaCO₃ contains one mole of carbon © and removed one mole of CO₂ at the time it precipitated.
CO₂ sequestered
CO₂ molar mass: 44.01 g · mol⁻¹
Moles CO₂ sequestered = moles CaCO₃ = 3.7 × 10²⁵ mol
Mass of CO₂ locked away:
3.7 × 10²⁵ mol × 44.01 g mol⁻¹
≈ 1.63 × 10²⁷ g
≈ 1.6 billion Gt (gigatonnes) CO₂
Bottom line
Last 600 million years →
~4.4-billion-km³ of limestone rock
→ ~1.6 million-million-million tonnes (1.6 × 10¹⁵ t) of CO₂ permanently pulled out of the atmosphere.
That’s roughly the amount of fossil carbon currently thought to exist in recoverable coal/oil/gas deposits multiplied by ~25—most of it will never return short of tectonic bake-out.
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Please forward on to Albo, Blackout, Bowen, the UN and Greta.
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Please forward on to Albo, Blackout Bowen, the UN and Greta.
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Can we create a censorship free internet-and would we want to?
https://dailysceptic.org/2025/08/16/the-online-safety-act-exposes-how-fragile-our-overly-centralised-internet-really-is/
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The internet used to be great. At about the time of wireless and the cloud, then the social media platforms, it became rubbish.
I think the problem with the internet is the idea that people should be able to trust websites. You used to trust a business and then took care to go to the correct website for the business you trusted to transact online. The business you trusted hosted the website.
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I ran a business selling websites back in 2025 and it was great then. On the whole bearing in mind all it’s dark sides and the inherent concerns over digital technology, it would have been better if it had not been invented.
The same goes for its twin, smartphones. On the whole life was less complicated, was more free and things worked better back then
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Not 2025 of course, that wouldn’t be very impressive, it was 1995
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Would have to disagree with “things would be better without internet/smartphones”
In a world without those things *this* website and all the others like it, dedicated to uncovering and disseminating facts would not exist, and then the propaganda lock in with regards to things like climate and covid would be TOTAL.
Free speech has its downsides, but all other forms of speech control have dire consequences.
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We are living in “1984”- the novel at the moment.
Crime stats in britain prove conclusively that Pakistani men as a proportion of their population are up to 4 times more likely to commit sex based crimes.
Men cannot become women and women cannot become men.
Yet if you post either of these facts on twitter or facebook etc. you are likely to get a visit from the police farce. I purposely wrote “farce” because that is what the police farce in Britain is these days.
Governments always want to control the narrative. Eliminating the right to free speech gives them ultimate control.
Next thing is they’ll tell us that mathematics is waaacist…
oh hang on a sec, some loonies have already tried to do that.
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I guess in some respects you can compare the internet to a library. You can walk into a library and go to the non-fiction section or pick up a trashy teenage magazine. You could take a copy of Moby Dick off the shelf or Fifty Shades of Grey. It’s all about content choice.
Nowadays, every time you walk into the “library”, there are numerous librarians waving content in your face telling you to read or watch it. They are also trying to shove advertising brochures and subscription forms into your hands. Then they monitor your every move around the library so next time they know what content to wave in your face.
Sometimes they think you shouldn’t be allowed to read a book so they remove it from the shelf altogether. Some books may contain pages redacted with black marker pens because most of the content is acceptable- just not all of it. They receive phone calls from senior librarians telling them what is and isn’t suitable.
Your library card is still free, but you will need to pay extra to access the really good stuff.
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Not a particularly good metaphor, the internet as a library.
Try a book bazaar.
There’s all sorts of hucksters and shysters, trying to separate you from your money, for books that tout themselves as fact, when in fact, they’re whole cloth fiction.
There’s walled niches (MSM, Government) where you can pay for received wisdom, or get lies for free.
For those who can find their way around the bazaar, there’s rooms of like minded individuals, sharing books for free. Some rooms are noisy, some are quiet, and the information quality makes caveat emptor your guiding light.
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Point taken, the library analogy was never going to be all-encompassing of the internet.
I recently cancelled my Fairfax subscription because I was tired of their anti-nuclear, pro-renewables BS. That mentality will lead to Australia’s energy insecurity.
I think l can find my way. To suggest otherwise would be just bazaar.
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Good analogy. A further point is that the library membership is no longer voluntary if you wish to participate in what used to be your daily life – try banking for instance, when your ‘local’ branch is now so far from your home it becomes impractical and inconvenient to attend in person. The internet is SO much more convenient . For THEM.
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Daily I get a dozen ads on my email account (grocery, cruises, women’s wear; and some from places I once ordered a product from). There should be a rule that if I don’t respond to the first 5 messages, they should stop. If AI is so smart, why haven’t they figured out that I am not going on a cruise?
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Try Proton for emails and all that. The last Spam that I got was in a Can at Woollies. And the messages are encrypted.
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Number of Canadians visiting the US plummet in wake of trade war and concerns over Americas ambitions on Canada.
https://nypost.com/2025/08/16/world-news/more-us-tourists-visit-canada-than-canucks-travel-to-america-for-first-time-ever/
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Talking of Canucks / Que Nada, how are all those truck drivers and friends & supporters getting on without bank accounts… or has the (ex-) Central Banker PM relaxed his predecessor’s manic dictatorial ways?
BTW where is Justin?
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“BTW where is Justin?”
Just out
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A lot of people live on the border. There are over 100 land border crossings. And as in the Mexico border, a lot of those trips are daily and not tourism. America has tightened the two borders and the Canadians and Americans I know are very unhappy with the need to go through customs rigorously after years of easy daily crossings. But a lot of Fentanyl and criminals used this open border. Especially as the Canadian government has been very reluctant to police their own borders.
I found this odd, to have people arrive in Canada (which has no land borders except for America) for the explicit purpose of going to America and not stopped by the Canadian government. As if the Canadian Liberals under Trudeau were perfectly happy to be a conduit for overseas potential terrorists, drug dealers and illegal aliens, as long as they were going to America? No wonder Trump was upset. A drop of 25% in crossings seems to be the result.
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Communism was thought to have been defeated with the collapse of the Soviet Union in 1991 ushering in a new era of freedom of the victims of communism and the cessation of belief in this perverse ideology among certain elements in the West.
Instead, the communists have regrouped and rebranded and have returned with a vengeance.
Instead of promoting violent revolution, they are following and have success followed the 1967 plan of the German communist Rudi Dutschke’s “long much through the institutions”, the infiltration of Leftists into all institutions, public and private. (That is not to say the Left aren’t still violent, there are elements such as BLM, Antifa, antisemitism of the Left etc., all elements and others that are violent and increasingly so.)
From these institutions they thus promote their Civilisation-destroying ideologies such as wokeness, climate change scam, transgenderism, dumbing down of the education system and indoctrination of children, destruction of small business, destruction of home ownership, state control of big business, state control of medical doctors and treatments (e.g. covid), censorship, digital identities, destruction of the family unit, hatred of trafitional Western values and achievements, coming social credit scores etc..
Most Western countries except the US under TRUMP have accepted the above.
Thus I see the Western world splitting into two blocs.
1) Western Europe, Canada, Australia, NZ.
2) United States.
The first group will continue to degenerate in all ways under the Left.
The United States will continue to progress toward traditional Western values of freedom, free speech, equality before the law, the supremacy of the individual, small government and minimum regulation etc..
The effects are already apparent with all of the first group becoming increasingly bad places to live and work, with increasing crime, violence, taxes, regulations and controls, restrictions on free speech and individual decision making, engineered reduction in standard of living etc. while the US returns to the values of its founding fathers, John Locke, Montesquieu etc. and freedom.
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march
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“march”?? Are you sure? I thought it was the “long munch” and the Chinese had already taken a bite and with Chinese food you are hungry again within 30minutes so Rudi came up with his version of left over 2nd course.
Welcome to mad Monday enough to make you Scream – just ask Edvard Munch lol.
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mulch works just as well:
‘You know you’re standing in it’.
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Note that even the communist propaganda organisation, Their ABC (Australia) admits that Australia’s standard of living is in decline.
Imagine how bad it really is?
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2025-05-07/can-albanese-government-fix-the-economy-four-corners/105260320
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Western Europe, Canada, Australia and NZ aligned with a democratic China is a better fit.
Donnie will be out of power in a few years, while Bernie Sanders is attracting huge crowds of working class people. They are all looking forward to the Mid Term elections.
The Trump oligarchy will be little more than a footnote in history.
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See Tony Thomas’Aug 18th Quadrant article ‘Taken for a Ride,’re organised propaganda in schools from prep to Year 12…
Australian schools are about to ramp up Net Zero campaigning using the latest movie “Future Council” from dark-green activist Damon Gameau.
Tony says ‘I’m predicting this with confidence because teachers have drenched more than a million kids from primary classes upwards with Gameau’s previous movie/docos 2040 (2019) and Regenerating Australia (2022). All-up his offerings (at last week) have got to 1,534,783 kids and launched about 50,000 largely school-based “action plans”.
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https://quadrant.org.au/news-opinions/doomed-planet/taken-for-a-ride/
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THE ROAD TO THE LODGE FOR THE COALITION
Promise cheaper power from coal.
Promise hot coffee on the way to work.
Teach people to check the dashboard for the local grid and have a look at breakfast and dinnertime to see if there will be enough wind and solar power to give you a hot meal if the RE parasites drive more coal out of the system.
NOT THIS MORNING IN SE AUSTRALIA, AT 7 AM THE WIND IS CONTRIBUTING 12% OF DEMAND!
Australia https://www.nem-watch.info/widgets/RenewEconomy/
Texas https://www.gridstatus.io/live/ercot
Great Britain. https://grid.iamkate.com/ See the imported power and the nuclear contribution. Australia has neither of those options.
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Forget it!! Liberals are dead in the water… This is from the retiring president of the Young Liberals, a woman of course, ticks all the boxes and still wants to be more like Labor as she thinks that is the way to win.
“And I do understand why some National MPs aren’t as enthusiastic about climate action as our metropolitan MPs are. But I do despair that if we don’t take action on climate change, that we will quite simply never win government again. Voters take this issue seriously, and we do need clear, credible commitments on climate change that give industry certainty and that also resonate with younger voters.”
That paragraph was AFTER she said-
“I believe in Liberal values of individual and economic freedom; equal opportunity for effort; aspiration; personal responsibility. And quite simply, I believe in the power of people and not governments to drive progress.”
How about…
“They need to keep being told that the Liberal Party is not going to win elections by moving further to the right and appealing to an increasingly narrow group of Australians.”
AND she wants quotas for women in Parliament… Just a confused little puppy..
Until they can stand up and say that global warming has nothing to do with people and Labor’s ruinables are a waste of taxes, they deserve permanent opposition!
https://www.smh.com.au/national/they-ve-been-dismissed-as-beta-males-and-pathetic-women-but-this-young-lib-is-punching-back-20250814-p5mmvj.html
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You sure she’s not a Green plant?
Co-leader of NZ Greens (opposition) was ejected from parliament last week for demanding govt MPs ‘grow a spine’. Apparently it’s not etiquette to accuse Right Honourable Members of being spineless, whatever their ‘gender’.
Meh, she’s young, she’s socialist, she’ll recover, not sure if she’ll learn anything though.
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I get it!
It is not going to be easy but there is a message there that wlll appeal to voters who are not rusted on to climate alarmism and the net zero ponzi.
Just introduce the widget to your friends and relations and other associates. No need to be assertive, just pretend you are concused and ask them for help to understand it:)
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Or is it just a symptom of the urban/rural lifestyle differences becoming more apparent?
Non urban settlers understand the government is not going to supply every “lifestyle comfort”
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Out in the bush we understand climate change for what it is.
The Nats may have to split from the Coalition until the Libs get their house in order.
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Since the appalling defenestration of the extraordinarily popular Tony Abbott by his own party, I and perhaps he have lost faith in the Liberal party. It seems to be run by the Labor party or Greens or even Teals or all three. CINOS. Conservatives in name only. Like Malcolm and Lucy Turnbull, faux conservatives, glued on Labor party.
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Rafe,
I refer to from below
I was struck by part of the Director’s Note on the back of the program, and its relevance to Australia today, especially the Younger Generation
Which brings me onto the Director’s Note of the Musical “The Guy Who Didn’t Like Musicals”, that my Grandson was raving about.
“Humans are curious creatures,We yearn for acceptance, yet we dread losing our individuality.
“The Guy Who Didn’t Like Musicals” thrives on this terrifying paradox.
At first glance, it’s a hilariously bizarre piece of absurdist horror-comedy; an alien parasite infects a small town, assimilating citizens into a grotesque, relenlessly cheery hive mind – all set to catchy tunes.
But beneath the laughs and jazz hands lies a chilling truth:
How easily we surrender our agency when it becomes more convenient to simply belong.
In a World where algorithms dictate our choices, echo chambers shape our beliefs, and trends demand our blind allegiance, “The Guy Who Didn’t Like Musicals” feels unervingly relevant.
The Danger of the Hive Mind has neve been more potent.
It asks us: “When everyone is singing the same song, smiling the same smile, how do we hold onto who we are?
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KP, I shall repeat my comment from late last week:-
The LNP is I’m sad to say is simply just “ piss & wind “. Unless they return to the conservative values of Menzies they shall remain simply “ piss & wind “.
They do not even warrant the label of opposition considering they don’t appear to oppose anything. Even policies are non existent!
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The principle is to keep saying and acting as a climate zealot in the Liberal Party and the politicians will have a chance of keeping their jobs. Don’t ply your brains and suggest open debate on the matter that is destroying the national economy by destruction of its cheap energy system. Don’t go to nuclear which alone could do the job by having minimal emissions of CO2 from its build. That is not what the punters want to hear. The fact is so many electors now believe the twaddle forced down their throats for 40years from when they were mere children. Equally, from the same propagandists, they believe anyone not being a believer has a character deficiency, are lowbrow troglodytes. The idea and principles of traditional science is a foreign language. So many Arts degrees. So few science and mathematics introductions let alone degrees. Arts courses allow the thinking you are what you want to imagine you are. To keep you happy the entrance limits are so low you could do the Limbo under the bar. Bit like immigration and English really. It’s mind-blowing to think how the brains of those setting these lowly limits are actually working. The aims must be entirely of a political nature and the antithesis of training the best of the nation to serve and progress the nation. The Enlightenment is stone cold dead.
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Rafe, look at the King Island site http://www.hydro.com.au. Within 5 minutes I saw the wind go from 10% to 2%, the solar vary from 40% to 54%, the battery being charged at -5%, and the diesel taking up all variations from 40% to 60%. At this rate with the wind down and the sun going down the diesel will go upto 98%. On King Island although both wind and solar each were designed to take full load, it never happens. The diesel never runs below about 35% and if the sun shines or wind blows there is a resistor that gets rid of excess power and there is a flywheel to control the frequency.
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All sounds like its working as expected. Is there a statement on what they wanted to achieve with the total system?
People like to point to KI as a failure. Its hard to know unless we know the initial objectives.
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The Steel Train
I saw the steel train yesterday at Long Island Junction, near the entrance to Hastings, Victoria. The train crosses the main road there so we all had to stop while it passed.
The train starts its journey at the Bluescope steel works in Port Kembla and delivers rolled steel coils to the Lysaght rolling mill at Long Island point, Hastings. 40 butterbox wagons apparently (I did not count them) with two locomotives.
Long Island point has its own wharf, so I thought the steel came by ship. That was the case up til 2012 when the Iron Monarch was retired. Now the steel makes the long journey by rail.
https://wongm.com/2019/10/hastings-bluescope-steel-train-frankston-line/#:~:text=Steel%20slab%20is%20brought%20in,be%20increased%20to%20800%2C000%20tonnes.
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FWIW
“Church of England Decides St Augustine Was Black”
https://hotair.com/headlines/2025/08/17/church-of-england-decides-st-augustine-was-black-n3805899
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So our modern world was created by black gay males? It gives transvestites new meaning. When will the woke wake up? Science is not the only discipline under attack. History and religion too.
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The great outline of the CAGW -CO2 drama by TdeF above focuses on the quantitative aspects of the scheme.
The other, often sidelined, element of the story relates to the thermodynamics of the UNIPCCC claims.
True, CO2 is quantitatively irrelevant as a global heating agent, but going deeper we also must acknowledge the thermodynamics of the situation that is constantly muddied to avoid facing the truth.
In essence, the total system in which CO2 hovers and is deemed to be a raging heat source is misrepresented.
Look at the whole system for the Truth.
CO2 is innocent.
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nemlog.com.au. …??
Anyone having problems accessing this excellent site for Australian generation data ?
I have not seen any updates since Aug 8 th ??
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Works fine, but one VERY basic site.
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? Basic. ??……are you sure you are looking at the same site ?
The site gives detailed generation and demand data for every supplier, by type ( coal, gas Solar, Wind, Hydro, Battery, etc etc), in min by min intervals, constantly updated, for each State.
And a lot of other analysis that i dont use.
All presented in a charted graphic that is quick and easy to follow.
Much, much more detailed and easy to follow than the RE widget.
Maybe we are looking at something different ?
Rick, ..thanks, i have previously emailed Geoff, but yet to get a reply.
Do you see data on the site beyond Aug 8th, 3 am ?
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Ask the guy who put the site together:
Geoff Eldridge is the creator and publisher of this site. He can be contacted via email [email protected].
Or you can get a more condensed data set from here:
https://explore.openelectricity.org.au/energy/nem/?range=7d&interval=30m&view=discrete-time&group=Detailed
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Mine is up to date as at 4pm 18th August,
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Ahh !…. Ok , i must have some sort of access issue then.
Thanks, i was getting worried we may have lost a valuable site.
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It gives transvestites new meaning. (meant for response to TdF comment #8)
But not for long as another step toward “evolving” the language seems to be taking shape. Someone on Reddit asked why was transvestite used instead of transgender and the answer was “A transvestite used to be the common word for Drag.. the language has just evolved.” [Only aware of this because BRAVE offered it as a search result regarding Terence’s passing]
Today’s reporting on the death of Terence Stamp included mention of his appearance in Priscilla Queen of the Desert
“…in which he played a transgender woman.”
I thought the movie was about drag queens.
The once united LGBT+ community has already had its internal rukus with Lesbians and now the T(ransvestite) group may be facing reassignment to T(ransgender).
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Here in Nepal they are so used to blackouts, either random or due to scheduled load shedding, that many shops have their own backup batteries for lighting.
This was very apparent in Kathmandu last night when during the latest blackout you could see that some shops had no lighting at all, some had a few globes to give minimal light, and in some shops, they were fully lit up as normal
In Australia, as the Left shut down the energy supply, we can look forward to similiar.
In Nepal however, the regular blackouts appear to be due to management incompetence and lack of investment rather than woke energy policies.
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Same in Delhi, India’s capital.
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As was entirely predictable, the Communist Slime Minister and his regime want to go after your family home.
Notice the trick the Government is using here. They get this idea introduced by “experts” and they can then say they are acting on accordance with “independent advice” when they inevitably do it.
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“Prime Minister Anthony Albanese ruled out changes to the capital gains tax discount in Opposition”
I’m not sure how many properties the PM owns now but at some stage I think he owned four, so perhaps he had a personal interest in no changes to CGT. But then there are probably differences in the way pollies are treated when it comes to property ownership. For example they can own a property where they live, or at least in their electorate, plus buy a property in Canberra to live in while they are in Parliament.
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As reported in News.com, this proposed tax is one way to tackle “inequality”. So, somehow my wife and I have worked all our lives to own a home, look after and educate our children, assist in providing for our grand children but apparently our social responsibilities are just not enough. We now have to be responsible for others who have chosen to make different life choices and as a result don’t own a home. Well NO. We don’t complain that we aren’t as wealthy as politicians, leaders of business or world renowned academics. we simply fit into our little slot that makes us happy. We are NOT responsible for “inequality” and as has often been demonstrated if everyone is made exactly equal today, by the end of 12 months the vast majority of the population has dropped back into the positions that existed before “equality”. i.e. the rich tend to be rich, the middle class grafters tend to be middle class and the never own anything cohort has reverted to owning nothing and demanding “equality”.
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Not only capital gains tax on your house, but the ABC has been “reporting” that homeowners should/could also be paying tax on ‘imputed rent’ for your home. To make Australia’s tax system fairer for all, we should consider taxing home owner-occupancy.
“What does “impute” mean?
It means to assign a value to something by inference.
In the case of imputed rent, that’s the estimated rental value of your residential property.”
So that means if your house that you live in and are not renting out, could earn you $500 a week in rent you will have to pay tax on that rental income that you’re not earning for a house that you’re already paying a mortgage on.
“Part of the return to an owner-occupier housing investment accrues to the taxpayer in the form of living in the property rent-free. This in-kind return is known as imputed rent.”
Living in a property “rent free” what a load of BS. In reality we’re renting from the bank, paying down that huge mortgage. So if we have to pay tax on the invisible rent we “could” get, can we then claim interest costs on the mortgage as well all the R&M, rates, insurance etc that has to be paid as being a home owner, sorry a rental property owner, yeah lets negative gear our primary residence!
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2025-08-15/imputed-rent-tax-home-owners-welfare-productivity-round-table/105647030
How mad is that? You wouldn’t be able to afford to pay a mortgage as well as tax on rent you don’t even get. I guess its a bit like unrealised capital gains on your super. Tax the invisible!
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The only ‘rent’ that is charged is the interest which is the rent for borrowing the mortgage money. That is bad enough.
Oh to own a Bank. A Licence to make easy money.
This imputed ‘rent’ and payment of any tax is stealing and should be resisted at all costs.
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Rats! Almost time to get a passport functioning again, sell the rentals and move somewhere more capitalist!
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‘…..Treasurer Jim Chalmers is seeking ideas to increase productivity.’ They’ve obviously run out of ideas of their own.
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Apparently a 4 day working week, for the same wages of course, will somehow increase productivity. I do not have the benefit of a university education, however, at a guess, I would think that working less and getting paid more, will not equate to “greater productivity”
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“They’ve obviously run out of ideas of their own.”
I don’t think they ever had any.
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“Australians should pay capital gains tax on their family home in order to tackle the housing crisis, a pair of influential economics professors argue.”
I think they had this in the USA but interest payments have to be tax deductible,
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Last Night Grandson was enthusiasically praising his School’s Small Musical he had to been to, done by his School in their Small Intimate Theatre
My Wife & I have been to a number of School Musicals over the years, with both our Kids & Grandkids, and the Quality of the Productions is Excellent, Pirates of Penzance, Death of a Salesman etc, and most recently Wenona Musical Legally Blonde – coming away saying to my Wife at $30 for Seniors, I get more enjoyment out of School Musicals than expensive Shows in Sydney City, and as Chatswood Concourse Theatre sends out emails of Schools shows we should start going to other Schools Shows
Which brings me onto the Director’s Note of the Musical “The Guy Who Didn’t Like Musicals”, that my Grandson was raving about.
“Humans are curious creatures,We yearn for acceptance, yet we dread losing our individuality.
“The Guy Who Loves Musicals” thrives on this terrifying paradox.
At first glance, it’s a hilariously bizarre piece of absurdist horror-comedy; an alien parasite infects a small town, assimilating citizens into a grotesque, relenlessly cheery hive mind – all set to catchy tunes.
But beneath the laughs and jazz hands lies a chilling truth:
How easily we surrender our agency when it becomes more convenient to simply belong .
In a World where algorithms dictate our choices, echo chambers shape our beliefs, and trends demand our blind allegiance, “The Guy Who Didn’t Like Musicals” feels unervingly relevant.
The Danger of the Hive Mind has neve been more potent.
It asks us: “When everyone is singing the same song, smiling the same smile, how do we hold onto who we are?
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Oops The Guy Who Loves Musicals” should be “The Guy Who Didn’t Like Musicals”,
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I am glad that contemporary kids are being exposed to such musicals that make them think! Good show!
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China develops world’s first robot capable of giving birth to a human baby
Experts say that the humanoid ‘pregnancy robot’ will be equipped with an artificial womb that receives nutrients through a hose.
The machine is being developed by Dr Zhang Qifeng, who founded the company Kaiwa Technology
According to Oddity Central, Dr. Zhang claimed the technology is already mature in laboratory settings and now needs integration into a humanoid form to enable real human–robot interaction during pregnancy
A prototype is slated for debut by 2026 and is expected to have a selling price of around 100,000 yuan (£10,000).
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-15003205/robot-surrogate-China-pregnancy-humanoid-baby.html
Borg maturation chamber..
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They will have to work fast as China’s population plummets.
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‘that receives nutrients through a hose.’
LOL! Imagine the monsters being aborted because they were fed modern processed food while developing!!
Concentrate your average massively over-weight, unfit dumbed-down American into a fetal size, and that is what you will get! Oh wait, that’s just what a baby is like!
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This is my latest article on Earth’s reduction in reflectivity that I put up on OneDrive that is not behaving very well. This link is on GoogleDrive:
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1IfclLNZWuHK92HLVOfos3Xzgkk3r4PNr/view?usp=sharing
Would like to know if this link works.
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Work well. Interesting but remember Galileo about movement. It upsets the religious bigots.
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it works
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Hope everyone has seen the Productivity Graph over the past decade.. The effect of Kevin07 and Albo is staggering!
Seems taxpayers and business hate working for Labor Greens. They ensure the money supply runs out as quick as possible.
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That’s one way to kneecap the bastards.
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My cattle are smart enough to know exactly where they are going. They learn very quickly. They also know that I am not going to take them into overstocked, bare pasture. Indeed, sick cows who need to be fed separately quickly learn to stay back from the movement of the herd in anticipation of special feeding routines.
Don’t underestimate the intelligence of cows.
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On the other hand …
As a lad, I used to regularly go fishing at a lake near where I lived, in the UK. It was surrounded by dairy pasture. I would sometimes fish for Pike, using live bait – a bucket of small, live fish. Invariably, I would be surrounded by inquisitive cows who would mooch around all my gear. The bucket of fish however, would absolutely fascinate them. The would form a circle around the bucket and were transfixed. They would do that for hours, if I let them, taking it in turns to watch the little fish swim around.
I found it amusing.
Our house bordered pasture, too. I befriended a cow which I nicknamed ‘Four Eyes’, because she had an eye-shaped black patch on each shoulder. I used to give her a slice of bread whenever I saw here, which she loved. Thereafter, whenever I crossed that field on my way to the woods, she would run over and, even if I had no bread, she was content to just walk with me. Those were the days …
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Of course cows are smart. Look at dairy cows lining up to be milked any morning. And european cattle breeds in the tropics quickly learnt the muster routine, when being regularly dipped for cattle tick control in the summer months in Northern Australia. And as Dana Lyons’ epic lyrics tell us – never underestimate ‘cows with guns’ – https://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-b-d&q=dana+lyons+cows+with+guns+lyrics&si=AMgyJEv17PWw0XQW3IlwXAKl7dSlPQF61q4qYdeyP6OamT3IFLvfsHCnTLI6T2AU5LF_XJ7LhtnXi45OyQHf41tlIqo8Tcc9XrK3SWmAdL4hX6d4dHuGYA0RWS2k8OTOKknKc71E_gYimZfq-oRjHWnSEc0dPd_BsiEkib7G1qE3V84zoyi6aCQ%3D&sa=X&ictx=1
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I don’t think we’re in an era of “mass hysteria” so much as mass apathy. A combination of mental damage arising from Covid and the lockdowns, combined with a growing understanding that ordinary citizens no longer have any power whatsoever, has turned many of us into compliant, dispirited sheep.
I think the only hope for western society is an uprising very soon, but the few who start it will need wider support, very quickly, if they are to re-establish the compact between voters and governments. That will be the ‘make or break’ moment. At present, I don’t think enough people are brave enough, or motivated enough. Many don’t even think growing government control is a good thing.
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Steve:
with the current spendathon by most governments the uprising may be sooner than you think.
At some stage the government will run out of money, indeed have already done so, so places like the UK and Victoria can only continue by borrowing vast sums.
At some stage there will be a reluctance to lend money to said government. Eventually all those “handouts” will have to be trimmed, along with the ever increasing bureaucracy.
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“so much as mass apathy. ”
Life has got so complicated that people can only understand a tiny part of it, and are happy to ignore the rest, its not important.
That’s politics for most people, it doesn’t directly affect them whatever party is in power. Those running companies who may get affected are a tiny minority, and every 4years when it rears its ugly head they moan about the Govt then go back to ignoring it.
“Govt” is a long way from most people, only a few will ever talk to their MP, so until people are told that they personally will have to pony up the $50K each that Govt borrowed for them, its all just something on the TV.
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If the Alcubierre warp drive to enable spacecraft to achieve apparent superluminal velocity were possible, and also other intelligent life existed, then we would have been visited by now. So either the drive is not possible, or intelligent life does not exist elsewhere in the universe, or both.
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then we would have been visited by now….or intelligent life does not exist elsewhere in the universe
The fact that “they” have chosen not to visit/get involved with us surely shows how intelligent they are.
(oldie but still a goodie).
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I am fond of shouting, “Aaaaand … they’re dead.” when watching sci-fi movies such as Star Trek etc and a ship jumps into ‘hyperspace’ or engages warp drive. The ship invariably accelerates from slow to light speed in a couple of seconds, during which the human body would be turned to mush by the extraordinary g-forces. The spaceship itself would collapse into a black hole or summat, I reckon. So, even if such velocities could be achieved, a way would have to be found to protect humans onboard from the effects of stupendous acceleration.
Could a mathemagician on here work out how long it would take to accelerate to ‘light speed’ without killing the human occupants or collapsing the thing into a ‘waffer-thin mint’?
A thousand years maybe?
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Steve of Cornubia,
About a year. Calculation’s not hard. Maintaining a familiar 1G acceleration (about 32 ft/s^2): speed of light is about 186,000 miles / second, multiply by 5280 to get ft/s, then divide by 32 to find how many seconds to get to that speed. Works out at 30,690,000, which is a smidge over 355 days.
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” how long it would take to accelerate to ‘light speed’ ”
No time at all, you bring the destination to the other face of the warp surface and just fly through to it. You don’t have to travel any faster than usual, there is nothing between the two destinations.
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‘ … then we would have been visited by now.’
They have been coming here for thousands of years.
The 3i/ATLAS is going to swing by Mars travelling at a cruising speed of 60 miles per second. Not warp speed, but unusually fast.
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That option is inconcievable in an infinite universe !
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“What wonderful arrogance” – The Traveller, ST TNG, when asked the same question.
Maybe we haven’t been visited yet because we aren’t worthy of it. (Level 0 on the Kardashev scale)
After all, if you were an advanced ET watching everything happening now, would YOU want to make contact?
Warp 10, opposite direction!
Maybe another 100 years…
The whole concept of trying to make contact with current technology is idiotic because by the time the transmissions reach the nearest likely habitable world our communication technology will have advanced to the point of beating it there, or we can even travel there.
eg quantum entanglement, worm holes.
Maybe the destination will be wokeworld or Fauciworld…
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Seems like the alien life question is like every other question nowadays.
The non-conspiracy version … “why haven’t we seen them?”
The conspiracy version … “we have 12 crashed vehicles and President Eisenhower made a treaty with them”.
Climate Change is real.
Climate Change is a fraud.
Trump is H!tLer.
No he isn’t.
Men can be mothers.
(Well, there’s no argument on that one.)
BTW, and a bit more seriously.
The Space Star Trek Final Frontier Freedom Through Technology Age … is officially dead.
Turns out humans are unable to advance out of tribal quasi-religious superstitious cultural behavior where we demand false safety from overlords.
I have literally had people I’ve known for years scream at me for expressing skepticism about Climate Change.
Like I was dEnY-ing the Devil.
(Notice how I had to imput dEnY because dE-nIal is a trigger word. A notion straight out of the Middle Ages.)
And the once great liberator … Technology … advances upon us with its’ army of thought police inquisitors … heralded by one Lord Keir Starmer.
Looks the part doesn’t he?
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For Grandparents with Younger Grandkids you can download or watch in-situ
https://archive.org/details/IndianaJonesChronicles/01+-+My+First+Adventure.avi
1 – My First Adventure 01:25:52
2 – Passion For Life 01:34:18
3 – The Perils Of Cupid 01:33:08
4 – Travels With Father 01:32:36
5 – Journey Of Radiance 01:35:49
6 – Spring Break Adventure 01:36:06
7 – Love’s Sweet Song 01:33:00
8 – Trenches Of Hell 01:29:12
9 – Demons Of Deception 01:33:02
10 – Phantom Train Of Doom 01:33:27
11 – Oganga, The Giver And Taker Of Life 01:28:07
12 – Attack Of The Hawkmen 01:36:07
13 – Adventures In The Secret Service 01:31:59
14 – Espionage Escapades 01:33:59
15 – Daredevils Of The Desert 01:21:53
16 – Tales Of Innocence 01:37:11
17 – Masks Of Evil 01:36:20
18 – Treasure Of The Peacock’s Eye 01:34:31
19 – The Winds Of Change 01:37:01
20 – Mystery Of The Blues 01:35:34
21 – Scandal Of 1920 01:29:35
22 – Hollywood Follies 01:34:06
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‘Today I and Special Envoy for Climate Change Adaptation and Resilience Kate Thwaites were joined by industry, unions, business, market bodies and civil society in Parramatta for an Energy and Adaptation Roundtable.’
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I prefer King Arthur and the Knights of the Roundtable.
Much better Fiction than this alleged ‘Economic Roundtable’.
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Knights of the Round Table
Monty Python
We’re Knights of the Round Table
We dance whene’er we’re able
We do routines and chorus scenes
With footwork impeccable
We dine well here in Camelot
We eat ham and jam and spam a lot
We’re Knights of the Round Table
Our shows are formidable
But many times, we’re given rhymes
That are quite unsingable
We’re Opera mad in Camelot
We sing from the diaphragm a looooooot
In war we’re tough and able
Quite indefatigable
Between our quests we sequin vests
And impersonate Clark Gable
It’s a busy life in Camelot
I have to push the pram a lot
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And the fattest knight was .. Sir Cumference
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I remember Harry Secombe in the Goon Show in the 1950s describing himself as Sir Circumference. The Goon Show was a not to be missed each Sunday evening program with a full re-enactment of the program by our group in the train on Monday morning on the trip to school.
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“Energy and Adaptation Roundtable”
Or the Monty Python association for putting things on top of other things.
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Sounds a lot like a COP “where is our money” meeting
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How on earth did Australians become so tolerant of socialism, communism and anti-reason and anti-science?
(Rhetorical question.)
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Trevor Loudon in his recent book “Comrade Prime Minister” explains how it was done.
The Trade Unions were infiltraded and taken over by the Communists. Those trade unions then infiltrate the Labor Party. The Labor Left then pre-select Communists for elections. The Communist policies are sent to the Labor Left who adopt them as Labor policies.
The Left have also infiltrated the Liberal Party. These Lefties use the term “Moderate”. Basically Labor Light. The Young Liberals moreso have been infiltrated by the Left.
The NSW Young Liberals President espouses the Climate Change hoax as something to support 🙂
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The Albanese regime just banned yet another Israeli politician from coming to Australia. They were to speak at schools and synagogues. There is now an established pattern of democratically elected politicians being banned from Australia. This isn’t the first one. Even Donald Trump Jr. was banned, the son of a politician.
https://www.skynews.com.au/australia-news/tony-burke-bans-israeli-politician-from-australia-with-senior-mp-simcha-rothman-slapped-with-threeyear-ban/news-story/19a5eddc6f06e879af0a4c6c9f73260e
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Can the venues have a large screen display and have the talk presented as a Zoom call?
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FWIW
Shockingly terrible now but getting worser
“New Doooom, er, “State of the Climate” report: record-high greenhouse gases, global temperatures, global sea level, and ocean heat”
https://wattsupwiththat.com/2025/08/17/new-doooom-er-state-of-the-climate-report-record-high-greenhouse-gases-global-temperatures-global-sea-level-and-ocean-heat/
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Where’s the bad bit? It’s what happens at the end of an ice age. So what? Most land above 40 degrees was under a kilometres of ice. Is someone getting nostalgic for the good old days?
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‘Antarctica saw continued low sea ice. Following record lows in 2023, net sea ice extent was larger than last year but continued to be well below average during much of 2024. The Antarctic daily minimum and maximum sea ice extents for the year were each the second lowest on record behind 2023, marking a continuation of low and record-low sea ice extent since 2016.’
Caused by a lack of El Nino.
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“Caused by a lack of El Nino.”
Yes, we’ve had over 5years of that ice as rain. Kevin Long reckons its turning around, time to dry out for a decade.
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911 investigation review ?
Online media,, Fbook, podcasts, etc, are stirring again with a push to raise money to fund legal action to force a review of the 911 Trade center attack .
Predominantly the evidence is a “follow the Money” argument with the purchace and reinsurance of the Towers etc just prior to the destruction.
Also much suspicious share trading (put options) on American Airlines and United Airlines (the carrier’s involved), in the days prior to the event.
Lots of questions left unanswered and avoided.
https://richardgage911.org/podcast-episodes/
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Trump and Putin post Alaska meme
https://x.com/peacemaket71/status/1956601847696777695
There’ll be more soon enough.
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Made me laugh – is that unwoke!
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FWIW
“‘Orwellian’ firing at the American Journal of Economics and Sociology for publishing a climate skeptic paper”
https://wattsupwiththat.com/2025/08/17/an-orwellian-firing-at-the-american-journal-of-economics-and-sociology/
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Seven SpaceX launches in the next two weeks-
https://spaceflightnow.com/launch-schedule/
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FWIW
“AS ADMIRAL HEINLEIN SAID*, NOTHING IS MORE EXPENSIVE THAN A SECOND-RATE MILITARY: Watch out, Russia! British Army could come out with all (14) guns blazing.
*In another time line.”
(about https://www.conservativewoman.co.uk/watch-out-russia-british-army-could-come-out-with-all-14-guns-blazing/)
https://instapundit.com/739009/#disqus_thread
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