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    Reader

    World Leaders Must Be ‘Ringmasters’ to Push Green Agenda, Says U.N. Climate Chief in ‘Doomsday’ Interview

    https://www.breitbart.com/europe/2023/08/09/world-leaders-must-be-ringmasters-to-push-green-agenda-says-un-climate-chief/

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    Honk R Smith

    Please indulge some thoughts on our current situation.

    Those of us that have worked at understanding the Climate debate, and have come to understand that the alleged catastrophic impact of the release of ‘sequestered fossil carbon’, is well … a lie …
    have utterly lost the debate.

    Just speaking with people in my own world, any attempt to persuade of the depth of the sinister propaganda campaign that has been waged for decades is pointless, and I must resolve to stop any discussion of the matter if I am to maintain human contact. (Although hermitery is feeling more attractive with each passing day.)

    It is interesting to observe that ordinary working people are hip to the fraud, but the educated classes are hopelessly indoctrinated.
    And the educated classes are very willing to impoverish everyone else, if not outright eliminate them to ‘save the planet’ from ‘boiling’.

    The ‘renewable’ Net Zero fiasco, and political lie, and known lie to the true proponents of the scheme, is baked in. The effect of these policies is the true catastrophe, and it will take decades to recover even if we could start now.
    I can’t decide whether the economic or the cultural psychological damage is greater.

    This destruction was the intention of the perpetrators.
    The purpose was to create a Global/Corporate authoritarian order, and it has worked.
    The Pandemic was a major offensive in that campaign.

    Private jets clog airspace and airports at every ‘Climate’ elite confab.
    Number 10 Downing Street held raging parties during lockdown.
    Australia and Canada never ‘forced’ anyone to be vaccinated.

    How much more obvious can it get?
    What turns it around short of spontaneous night gatherings of deplorables with pre-industrial night vison and manual pronged hay redistribution implements?

    Elections are a joke when a massive global political alliance of Media, Intelligence Apparatuses, and unknown controllers keep the the public ignorant.
    And have turned universities into indoctrination centers that the Medieval Church would envy.

    Just the opinion of nobody.
    Thanks to Jo for maintaining a forum for nobodies such as I.

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      Honk R Smith

      Jeez, I seem to get moded every time, which does not help in trying to claw my way back to optimism.
      I suppose I could replace ‘lie’ with ‘fib’ or ‘mislead’.
      Perhaps replace ‘force’ with ‘coercion’.
      I certainly would not want to use an antiquated definition of immunity or vaccine.

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        Ted1.

        How about we match their arrogance?

        Just keep repeating that carbon dioxide does no harm, and those who believe it does have been misled.

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          Ted1.

          How about shift the argument to the first of the three great scams?

          The Hole in The Ozone Layer.

          I think it’s about to come back onto the table with patents expiring.

          Don’t let them forget that the link between the three is public ignorance of science.

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      Saighdear

      Pity the people in your world aren’t NAILS …. You’ve just hit them on the head: But the wood, ah, the wood and it’s no j’oak
      That is the BIG Problem. Ask Solomon. What does A.I. say ? OH Noes … do NOT ask Chat… worrever it’s called – you’ll only sow more negative ideas.

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      Bruce

      In their own words:

      No matter if the science of global warming is all phony… climate change provides the greatest opportunity to bring about justice and equality in the world.”
      Christine Stewart, former Canadian Minister of the Environment

      “It doesn’t matter what is true, it only matters what people believe is true.”
      Paul Watson, co-founder of Greenpiece

      “I believe it is appropriate to have an ‘over-representation’ of the facts on how dangerous it is, as a predicate for opening up the audience.”
      Al Gore, all-round hypocrite and scumbag

      “The models are convenient fictions that provide something very useful.”
      David Frame, climate modeler, Oxford University

      “The data doesn’t matter. We’re not basing our recommendations on the data. We’re basing them on the climate models.”
      Prof. Chris Folland, Hadley Centre for Climate Prediction and Research.

      “But one must say clearly that we redistribute de-facto the world’s wealth by climate policy. Obviously, the owners of coal and oil will not be enthusiastic about this. One has to free oneself from the illusion that international climate policy is environmental policy. This has almost nothing to do with environmental policy anymore, with problems such as deforestation or the ozone hole”.
      Ottmar Edenhofer, UN IPCC OFFICIAL

      This is the first time in the history of mankind that we are setting ourselves the task of intentionally, within a defined period of time, to change the economic development model that has been reigning for at least 150 years, since the Industrial Revolution.
      Christiana Figueres, Executive Secretary of United Nation’s Framework Convention on Climate Change (UNFCCC), from 2010 to 2016.

      In searching for a new enemy to unite us, we came up with the idea that pollution, the threat of global warming, water shortages, famine and the like would fit the bill….All these dangers are caused by human intervention . . . and thus the “real enemy, then, is humanity itself . . . humanity requires a common motivation, namely a common adversary in order to realize world government. It does not matter if this common enemy is a real one or . . . one invented for the purpose.
      Alexander King & Bertrand Schneider, The First Global Revolution, The Club of Rome, p70, 1993

      Government in the future will be based upon . . . a supreme office of the biosphere. The office will comprise specially trained philosopher/ecologists. These guardians will either rule themselves or advise an authoritarian government of policies based on their ecological training and philosophical sensitivities. These guardians will be specially trained for the task.
      David Shearman & Joseph Wayne Smith, The Climate Change Challenge and the Failure of Democracy, p134, Praeger, Westport, Connecticut, USA, 2007. David Shearman was an IPCC Assessor for the third and fourth climate change reports.

      ”My three goals would be to reduce human population to about 100 million worldwide, destroy the industrial infrastructure and see wilderness, with its full complement of species, returning throughout the world.”
      David Foreman, co-founder of Earth First!

      ”A total population of 250-300 million people, a 95% decline from present levels, would be ideal.”
      Ted Turner, Founder of CNN and major UN donor

      “Unless we announce disasters no one will listen.”
      Sir John Houghton, First chairman of the IPCC

      Is anyone “feeling the vibe”, yet?

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        Honk R Smith

        I appreciate this.
        Thank you.
        I’m not making an accusation.
        They say it, as you show.

        Funny, it’s like the vaccine.
        They force you to get it.
        And then say to your face you had a ‘choice’.
        Difficult to think anything but evil.
        I think we’re running out of hills.

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        Lance

        I wonder what they might think if they were placed first upon the plank?

        When actual survival skills matter, the elitists have nothing in hand but vanity.

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          Bruce

          Unfortunately, the “authorities” have more than “vanity”.

          They have “Force Majeur” (Might is Right, but only for US, not you peasants).

          VicDanistan IS the “role model”.

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      R.B.

      At fault are the people who don’t want the full extent of the fraud to be known. It makes a massive mockery of our academic institutions.

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    Tesla Model Y Owner Says His Car Trapped Him Inside on Hot Arizona Summer Day When Battery Died
    https://www.westernjournal.com/tesla-model-y-owner-says-car-trapped-inside-hot-arizona-summer-day-battery-died/

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        Bruce

        Like most “moderns” he does not grasp the concept of digging the user’s manual out of the bin and READING IT.

        The “clue” is often in the use of the word, “intuitive”. If someone starts sprouting about “intuitive equipment or software”, RUN AWAY! FAST!

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        Ronin

        Manual, it’s probably a CD.

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          Earl

          A “business” I worked for in 2004 had their emergency procedures on CD which included a list of telephone numbers of who to contact so other centres knew we were/going off line and could compensate. Business next door had big fire which knocked out the centre’s power supply….. within a day we got paper copies of the emergency procedures in bright orange folders distributed around the office.

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          yarpos

          Ahhhh CDs, those were the days

          When my wife picked up her new car a couple of years ago , I had a look at the manual. It has over 400 pages. I’m not surprised many/most don’t pore over their manuals to familiarize with the cars systems. So far we have only consulted it to turn off most of the driver assist stuff, and believe it or not how to adjust the clock.

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            PADRE

            On our recent visit to UK we hired a car (two actually as the A/C didn’t work on the first one). Surprisingly they both came with handbooks but it would have taken days to come to terms with all the electronic ‘aids’. The second car, with working A/C, a Nissan Juke, was quite good but some aspects of the various ‘assists’ were quite dangerous, especially on motorway driving. In terms of safe ergonomics, the best car we have had, and still have, is our late 2006 Volvo V70 D5 manual. The controls rely on simple knobs and warning messages are clear. My main criticism is that with my long fingers I find it impossible to change the bulb in the left headlight.

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            Philip

            You could work out how to adjust the clock? Ive read the manual and still cant do it.

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        Hanrahan

        The manual for my 13 yr old Camry is thick. There are still lights and functions I don’t know about but if I haven’t had to learn about them yet – why bother?

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          KP

          I reckon car tech peaked in the late 1990s and since then they have just fooled around with the styling and added useless bells & whistles for the dumb.

          Driver assist functions just put dolts on the road who shouldn’t be allowed there, and make me a danger on the road driving my wife’s/daughter’s cars when I don’t have a clue what anything does except the pedals & the gear-lever.

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      Graham Richards

      Stop complaining!! Nobody forced you to buy the death trap. You’re lucky it didn’t explode for a curtain call!!

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      envirOnment sCeptiC

      Heat is the enemy of batteries in general. In my opinion, black is the poorest choice for the colour of the EV. High irradiance white is best.

      I refuse to be in a Tesla or other EV…too dangerous in my opinion.

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    ESG: Treasury Dept. Hires Climate Czar to Use ‘Full Force’ of Dept. to Impose ‘Climate Finance Agenda,’ Control Investment

    https://mrctv.org/blog/esg-treasury-dept-hires-climate-czar-use-full-force-dept-impose-climate-finance-agenda-control

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      Bruce

      ”Isn’t the only hope for the planet that the industrialized civilizations collapse? Isn’t it our responsibility to bring that about?”
      Maurice Strong, Founder of the UN Environmental Program

      ”Global Sustainability requires the deliberate quest of poverty, reduced resource consumption and set levels of mortality control.”
      Professor Maurice King.

      ”I suspect that eradicating small pox was wrong. it played an important part in balancing ecosystems.”
      John Davis, Editor of Earth First! Journal

      Wake up, girls and boys; this caper has been underway for over half a century. “Eugenics” was rebranded after WW2. Their nazi role models rather gave the game away.

      Our Vodka-propelled cousins in the USSR crowed mightily about it while founding a swathe of “Eco concern / “Peace” organizations, as a way to erode reality in the West. They succeeded beyond their wildest dreams, even if they also caught their own “virus”. Such a touch of “Karma” was not surprising, given the REAL environmental horrors visited upon vast swathes of the old USSR.

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      yarpos

      Seems any “Czar” this administration appoints, be it Border, Transport, Energy etc they turn out to be functionally hopeless. Still, we have Chris Bowen in charge of Energy so I guess I shouldnt throw stones.

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    “YES” only edition of Q&A lowest rating ever.

    Diversity celebrity Dan Bourchier’s rise and rise at the ABC continues.

    He now holds the hotly contested record for the least watched edition of Q&A of all time.

    93,000 people across Australia’s capital cities tuned in – a share of 4% of the available audience.

    And who would be surprised?

    The show was all “YES” supporters (including the host), broadcast at enormous expense from the Garma festival in the outback.

    The ABC just keeps going further down the chute.

    https://www.michaelsmithnews.com/2023/08/yes-only-edition-of-qa-lowest-rating-ever-.html

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      James Murphy

      That restores my faith in humanity – ever so slightly

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      another ian

      One might sarcastically say “By popular request”?

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      KP

      The excuse is that the women were playing soccer on another channel at the same time…

      However the fact that ABC audiences are below a quarter of a million people is amazing, we pay over a thousand million dollars a year for that 1/4million people?? I’d make it a pay-per view organisation tomorrow!

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        Forrest Gardener

        Does that work out at $4,000 taxpayer money per viewer?

        Changing to a subscription service would be very short lived before their ABC went broke.

        Maybe just shut it down?

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        yarpos

        People have made up their minds and half as fascinated in this topic as the luvvies at the ABC are. You see it often with the media , the pick a topic to latch onto (even worse if its media related) and do it to death while the public just yawns.

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        el+gordo

        The organisation needs a good audit.

        ‘The ABC is “totally divorced from the real world” as they continue to create content with a left-wing bias and lose ratings, says Sky News host Chris Kenny. “This is just terrific satire, this is better satire than anything we’ve seen from the never endling line of green-left and un-funny ABC comedians,” Mr Kenny said. “The joke of course is on us. “It’s supposed to be your ABC, our ABC, but they all know it’s really their ABC.” (Sky)

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      Stuart Jones

      are they going to have an all No show soon, you know, for balance?

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    another ian

    FWIW

    “Joe Rogan and Patrick Bet David Begin to Figure it out – “There are Trillions at Stake”…
    August 9, 2023 | Sundance | 17 Comments”

    https://theconservativetreehouse.com/blog/2023/08/09/joe-rogan-and-patrick-bet-david-begin-to-figure-it-out-there-are-trillions-at-stake/

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    another ian

    Achieving the ultimate (/s) –

    “Wind produces zero power in Sask three times on Sunday”

    http://www.smalldeadanimals.com/2023/08/09/wind-produces-zero-power-in-sask-three-times-on-sunday/

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    Robber

    Industry, jobs on hold as Tasmania ‘runs out of power’ and Marinus Link stalls
    The proposed Marinus Link, which was to spark an on-island renewables boom to power Victoria and beyond, was on Wednesday confirmed to have blown out beyond the state’s debt-­financing capability.
    And a state that prides itself on 100 per cent renewable energy self-sufficiency was reportedly being forced to run an old gas-fired power plant.

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      yarpos

      The over zealous dills were planning to ditch that power plant years ago. It has proven its worth a few times now.

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    another ian

    More “Big Censoring”

    “This Is Getting So Ridiculous. Check Out What the Big Tech Goons Are up to Now.”

    https://pjmedia.com/news-and-politics/paula-bolyard/2023/08/09/this-is-getting-so-ridiculous-check-out-what-the-big-tech-goons-are-up-to-now-n1717652

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    KP

    While we moan about the bad effects of inflation & high interest rates, it appears we are meant to moan about the bad effects of deflation and low interest rates..

    China is experiencing deflation and apparently falling prices are a bad thing. I’d reckon Keynesian economic theory is the problem, not the results they talk about!

    “Prices fell across the world’s second-largest economy in July, bucking the trend of high global inflation as Chinese consumers shut their wallets and hoarded savings over fears of another economic crisis.”

    https://www.smh.com.au/world/asia/worrisome-china-s-economy-falls-into-deflation-20230809-p5dv5j.html

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      Custer Van Cleef

      It’s part of economic orthodoxy that deflation is a ‘bad thing’.

      Could it be a falsehood spread by the people who get rich from inflating the Money Supply?

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      Hanrahan

      This is not a high interest rate environment, it is a high debt/short memory one.

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      Graeme No.3

      KP:
      It’s really Neo-Keynesian theory. Keynes proposed a short term solution to the great depression but realised it would cause inflation, but thought that an increased economy would offset that with time.
      It was only after he was dead that economists and politicians started agreeing that they could control the economy and that increasing debt would be no problem (while they were around to take the blame).
      The more debt, the more inflation has to occur to pay for it, but you have to be cautious otherwise the economy collapses e.g. Zimbabwe, Venuzuala etc. Deflation means that the amount to pay off the debt goes up, and people start looking for assets e.g. rope and lamp posts for use on politicians and their advisers.

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    another ian

    FWIW

    “Biden Admin Concedes No Evidence Behind Recommendation for 6 Annual COVID Booster Shots”

    https://www.zerohedge.com/political/biden-admin-concedes-no-evidence-behind-recommendation-6-annual-covid-booster-shots

    But, no doubt, this will be unknown to the TGA et al

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    another ian

    FWIW

    “Western Sanctions Not Impacting Russian Economy as Much as Expected
    August 9, 2023 | Sundance | 8 Comments”

    https://theconservativetreehouse.com/blog/2023/08/09/western-sanctions-not-impacting-russian-economy-as-much-as-expected/#more-249761

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      Hanrahan

      but more broadly looking to see what happens to self-sustainability when essentially locked out from the world of commercial imports.

      The US is the most self-sufficient nation on Earth, but everyone says they’re doomed. Odd!

      The cause for this is “autarchy” or self-sufficiency. Indeed, as the timeline of the sanctions closes in on the second year completing, the Russian production economy is even stronger than when the sanctions began. Quite simply, they are making even more of their own goods now.

      Guns and tanks are included in a country’s GDP.

      Russia is stuffed.

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    Wind is deadly, oil harmless.

    Offshore wind a greater threat to whales than oil
    By David Wojick
    https://www.cfact.org/2023/08/07/offshore-wind-a-greater-threat-to-whales-than-oil/

    The beginning: “Defenders of Atlantic offshore wind have taken to saying that offshore oil and gas development is more dangerous to whales and other marine mammals. This is wildly false. Here is a recent example in the DC Journal: “To Protect Whales, We Should Ban Offshore Oil and Gas, Not Wind Farms”. https://dcjournal.com/to-protect-whales-we-should-ban-offshore-oil-and-gas-not-wind-farms/

    To begin with these authors, including a whale expert, have the same problem we see repeatedly in the mainstream articles trying to defend offshore wind. They do not acknowledge the nature of the threat. It is not the noise that kills the whales; it is what the noise causes the whales to do, especially get hit by ships. This then depends heavily on the location, duration and size of the noise. Here the offshore wind threat is enormous compared of oil and gas. But no mention is made of this stark fact, so let’s look at it a bit.”

    Lots more in the article. Please share it.

    Save the whales from offshore wind!

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      Lance

      California has diverted trillions of liters of water each year to maintain the habitat of a dubious colony of smelt fish.

      But the Greens and Govt cannot lift a finger to save endangered whales from manmade sonic threats.

      That’s a conundrum. Green when leftists want it, and crickets when they don’t.

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    STJOHNOFGRAFTON

    From THE EXPOSÉ:

    Pharma-funded Australian drug regulator grants full approval to Pfizer for its harmful covid injection

    On 13 July, Australia’s drug regulator quietly granted full approval for Pfizer’s Comirnaty “vaccine.” This is the same product that currently has 81,361 reported adverse events, with 443 deaths.

    Why would the Australian Therapeutic Goods Administration (“TGA”) give full approval to a drug that has a bad safety profile? Is it because the TGA receives nearly all its funding from the companies that it is supposed to regulate?

    https://expose-news.com/2023/08/07/australian-regulator-grants-full-approval-to-pfizer/

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    Lance
    August 9, 2023 at 2:18 pm
    Talk about evasion, Chad. You’ve got that in spades.

    EVs do not have “dramatically reduced energy requirements” vs ICE. The energy to charge an EV currently requires 70% + fossil fuel generation
    The current grid is powered by 60% to 80% fossil fuels. Avg 70%
    So, I will ignore your comment as uninformed and baseless.

    Lance,…you seem to have lost the plot on this !…
    It has NOTHING to do with electricity generation efficiency or method, coal, gas, Nuk, wind or solar. ( but excluding oil )
    It is about finding the equivalent ELECTRICITY DEMAND if EVs were to replace ICEs that consume…. in your words… “ 13 MBbl/day = 22092 Gw/day = 920.5 GW/hr.”..( an incorrect figure by the way !)
    So,…. Assuming typical ICE returns 25mpg (usa) …
    https://www.epa.gov/automotive-trends/highlights-automotive-trends-report
    . And a typical EV uses 0.26 kWh/km , or an equivalent of 129 empg..
    https://www.fueleconomy.gov/feg/PowerSearch.do?action=noform&year1=2021&make=Tesla&baseModel=Model%20Y&srchtyp=ymm
    And understanding that the annual total miles traveled in the usa is 3.2 trillion last year, or 8.8 billion per day,..(14 bn kms/day)
    Then an entire USA vehicle fleet substution to EVs would consume ..
    …..14 bn kms x 0.26 kWh/km =3,640 GWh per day..
    …somewhat less than the 22,092 GWh you suggested it would be ! (
    (13 MBbl/day = 22092 Gw/day ).
    That,…was your fundamental error leading on to the subsequent “wild and inaccurate” statements about how much extra generation capacity would be required….

    If you want to charge all those EVs in 8 hours, you need new generation capacity of 2,760 GW in addition to the existing 1000 GW. Or else the grid will collapse.

    . ?Why would you ever want to fully recharge all the EVs at once ??

    The rest is mostly irrelevant statements about grid efficiency, full EV recharges daily and powertrain efficiency of EVs , etc etc….ALL irrelevant when you understand that the “empg” figure for an EV takes it all into account.
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      Annie

      Very good interview. I missed it last night as the off switch was operated while Joe H was waffling on irritatingly.

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    Philip

    So what do you all make of the low Antarctic sea ice? One anomaly for a year and it has been decided the ice will never return and Antarctica will turn from a cooler to a radiator – yes I saw that written.

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    KP

    Seems the World Bank doesn’t just do banking, its a thug-boy for the weirds and their world-wide political agenda.. Do as we tell you or there’s no cookies.

    “The World Bank has announced a halt to new funding for Uganda, citing the country’s anti-homosexuality bill passed earlier this year as the reason for the decision.”

    https://www.rt.com/africa/581035-uganda-lgbtq-law-world-bank-funding/

    ..and we’re back to being the dumping ground for The Empire, from nuclear bombs to hypersonic missiles. I’m impressed that the Govt could convince everyone their skin cancer came from sunlight, not the thousands of tons of radioactive dust from the 1950s. Still, they all took the vax too.

    “The US could test its hypersonic missiles in Australia, Army Secretary Christine Wormuth said on Wednesday. Such a move, under the three-member Australia, UK, US (AUKUS) pact, would represent a significant expansion of Washington’s presence in the Asia-Pacific region.”

    https://www.rt.com/news/581042-australia-hypersonic-missile-testing/

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    another ian

    “Wild Happenings In Hawaii – Fires!”

    Some video links

    https://chiefio.wordpress.com/2023/08/10/wild-happenings-in-hawaii-fires/

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    Ronin

    The firebugs are active in Maui.

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    John Connor II

    Just push the button!

    A mother is contemplating the idea of pressing charges agains a vet because he would not treat he son who identifies as a cat

    https://twitter.com/JohnMappin/status/1689061513955315712/

    I don’t think I can take much more of this nonsense…

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      Hanrahan

      If she wanted nutrition advice she was prolly going to the right place. [Somehow I doubt that’s what she wanted]

      Nutrition is a BIG part of large animal veterinary practice.

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    John Connor II

    Has Britain finally reached peak vegan? How consumers are switching back to real meat amid claims pricier plant-based alternatives are no better for your health – as Beyond Meat sales slump and stores ditch vegan products

    This week Beyond Meat – one of the best known players in the meat alternative business – announced a 30.3 per cent drop in sales and further financial losses for the last quarter.

    Industry experts believe that companies producing animal-free foods are facing a reckoning because their products are typically more expensive than their meaty inspirations – and because of concerns over whether they’re good for you.

    MailOnline analysis of some of the most common vegan products in supermarkets and sold by fast food chains found that some, including Beyond Meat products, were packed with calories, saturated fat and salt.

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12388771/Has-Britain-finally-reached-peak-vegan-consumers-switching-real-meat-amid-claims-pricier-plant-based-alternatives-no-better-health-Meat-sales-slump-stores-ditch-vegan-products-amid-cost-living-crisis.html

    GOOD!!

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    John Connor II

    Families that inject mRNA together, develop Turbo Cancer together? – 12 unbelievable stories of two or three family members developing aggressive cancer at the same time!

    On May 27, 2023, I wrote a substack article about multiple COVID-19 vaccinated family members, who died suddenly.
    Now, I am starting to see multiple COVID-19 vaccinated family members develop Turbo Cancers (often stage 4) and their stories are shocking and difficult to believe.

    https://makismd.substack.com/p/families-that-inject-mrna-together
    Paywalled…

    What is the probability eh…
    About zero.

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    another ian

    “Luxury Electric Vehicle Startup Loses Over $500,000 on Every Vehicle It Sells”

    https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2023/08/luxury-electric-vehicle-startup-loses-500000-every-vehicle/

    Econ 101 done with “modern maths”?

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    another ian

    FWIW

    “”Significantly Worse Outcomes” – Scottish COVID Inquiry Savages Lockdowns And Vaccines”

    https://www.zerohedge.com/covid-19/significantly-worse-outcomes-scottish-covid-inquiry-savages-lockdowns-and-vaccines

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    Ronin

    The ‘Battery Of The Nation’ has gone flat, Tassie having to burn gas to keep the lights on.

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