When the government agencies that approve drugs are actually 96% funded by Big Pharma

By Jo Nova

The Malhotra-Dowd-Wolf-Shipman event about the Corruption of Medicine in Perth was a smashing success. The crowd of nearly 2,500 was on fire, the speakers were excellent and you can still watch it (and help cover some of the costs) by buying tickets to watch it online. Four hours of some of the best and brightest of humanity.


 

TGA, MHRA. EMA, FDA, HC, health regulatory agency.

Fact-of-the-day (for me) was that the Australian TGA (drug approval agency) gets 96% of its budget from the industry it supposedly is a watchdog for. Hello? So when the TGA inexplicably banned the safe ivermectin and hydroxychloroquine options they were, it seems, just doing what any bought-and-paid corporate crony agency would, even if people died. Apparently the government agencies are not just a rubber stamp for profitable drugs, they are the iron mallet to crush the competition too.

Big Pharma, TGA, Pfizer, Regulatory Capture. Crony Agency. Big Government.

Cartoon thanks to Panda at FirstFactCheck

While Australia won the prize for the agency with the Biggest Conflict of Interest, there’s little material difference in the EU, the US or the UK (or Canada). The drug industry funds 89% of the EMA budget in Europe and 86% of the UK-MHRA’s. The giant US FDA is “only” 65% industry funded. Glory be — is $800 million enough of a conflict of interest?

From the British Medical Journal (BMJ) and Australian investigator — Maryanne Demasi:

Are drug regulators sufficiently independent from the companies they regulate?

Over the past decades, regulatory agencies have seen large proportions of their budgets funded by the industry they are sworn to regulate, explains investigative journalist Maryanne Demasi.

Industry fees to the US Food and Drug Administration (FDA) have increased 30 fold – from around $29m in 1993 to $884m in 2016, while in Europe, industry fees now fund 89% of the European Medicines Agency (EMA), up from 20% in 1995.

In 2005, the UK House of Commons’ health committee evaluated the influence of the drug industry on health policy. But nearly two decades on, little has changed, and industry funding of drug regulators has become the international norm.

The BMJ asked six leading regulators, in Australia, Canada, Europe, Japan, the UK, and US, a series of questions about their funding, transparency in their decision making (and of data), and the rate at which new drugs are approved.

Of these, Australia had the highest proportion of budget from industry fees (96%) and in 2020-2021 approved more than nine of every 10 drug company applications.

Just how deep and how wide is that river of drug money…

From FDA to MHRA: are drug regulators for hire? BMJ Pharmaceutical influence over government agencies.

Click to enlarge. (BMJ)

 

Corruption, graft, grift, money laundering cartoon.

These agencies control what you are allowed to take into your own body. Hours after ivermectin was banned in Australia, a legal script from a qualified doctor was worthless at any pharmacy. Three adults with university training in medical science were suddenly unable to get what they wanted (money, work or medicine). The power of these unelected agencies reigns — where is the accountability?  Nice racket you have there…

TGA certified. Australia. LogoSociologist Donald Light of Rowan University in New Jersey, US, who has spent decades studying drug regulation, says, “Like the FDA, the TGA was founded to be an independent institute. However, being largely funded by fees from the companies whose products it is charged to evaluate is a fundamental conflict of interest and a prime example of institutional corruption.”

“It’s the opposite of having a trustworthy organisation independently and rigorously assessing medicines. They’re not rigorous, they’re not independent, they are selective, and they withhold data. Doctors and patients must appreciate how deeply and extensively drug regulators can’t be trusted so long as they are captured by industry funding.”

It’s time to ask our elected members where they stand on corporate-regulatory-capture. For or against? But don’t just stop there, the media are culpable too — why aren’t they grilling the politicians, the TGA, the AMA? Do they get advertising money from BigPharma, or is it more that they lack the courage to speak the truth, or need to believe in a religious savior? Hail Mary for Big Government?

Meanwhile the GP’s, the specialists, the pharmacists didn’t ask for this test, but it is here. And if they want to keep their high status leadership roles, they need to earn it.  The brave ones speaking now are the heroes.

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AMPS Mainstream Media and Medical Convention

The comedian who opened was savagely good. Someone tell me his name…

REFERENCE

Maryanne Demasi (2022) From FDA to MHRA: are drug regulators for hire? BMJ 2022377 doi: https://doi.org/10.1136/bmj.o1538

Cartoon Image by Gordon Johnson from Pixabay

Dollars image by 3D Animation Production Company from Pixabay

 

 

 

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123 comments to When the government agencies that approve drugs are actually 96% funded by Big Pharma

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    Fascinating revelations. I had no idea these regulatory agencies were industry funded. Who else, one wonders? No doubt BOEM, the offshore wind agency, is funded out of the billions of dollars in lease sales.

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      Ted1.

      I knew. I emailed this to our local Federal rep on 4th August 2021. It wasn’t my first. It did no good.
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      The Hon Andrew Gee, MP.

      Dear Andrew,

      I have read a report that Youtube/Google has put a ban on Sky News because of what Sky News had to say about Ivermectin and Hydroxychloroquine. If this is true it should be subjected to a thorough investigation.

      I have written before of the huge conflict of interest problem that we have with regulation of pharmaceuticals, that almost all of the research is undertaken and published by the product suppliers. Regulators depend on the information given to them by the suppliers.

      Add to this that the Guilds protect themselves by protecting their system.

      I have read a summary of a substantial Lancet paper which declares HCQ to be ineffective. But it appears to me to not include the circumstances in which some people claim to have found it useful.

      Some highly respectable people have used the word efficacious in relation to Ivermectin.

      With these two cheap drugs taken out of consideration, I am told that the alternative in use is Remdesivir at a thousand times the cost.

      The motive there for corrupting the market is just immense. We need to know that this sidelining of these two drugs is not a corrupt act.

      Google should be asked sub peona if they have been lobbied by Gilead Sciences, the suppliers of Remdesivir. If so, then they should reveal the details of their communications, including any financial dealings.

      Yours faithfully,

      (Ted1),
      Mudgee.

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      Mikky

      The Big Pharma funding of regulators is a pretty weak argument IMHO. Who else should fund the regulation of their products? If Pfizer pays $1 million for the regulation of a particular pill, how does that bias the outcome? The money gets paid regardless of the outcome.

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        Ted1.

        MikKy. The system we have depends on the suppliers to be honest. It is a fact of life that vigilance is always required where money is flowing. There will always be people who, given the opportunity, will seek to rort the system.

        WE are seeing this at play right now. We have companies so big and powerful that they think that because they pay for the information and can control what gets published, they can get away with murder. To date they are getting away with it. We must make sure that this never happens again.

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        Mantaray

        You have it kinda correct…..

        I pay a fee for my driver’s licence…another for my car rego, and another for my boat and trailer = I fund Qld Transport = I OWN Qld Transport? = I can drive or cruise in any manner I like because I fund / run Qld Transport and as a result the cops will not enforce road rules / laws on me. This look correct to anyone saying the same thing about big Pharma and the TGA?

        OR. I pay council rates, and all manner of fees to council (dog rego, DA approval etc) = I fund council = I run council? = council will not bother me when I burn my old tyres in the backyard etc. I OWN them.

        Facts are that fees for approval CONSUDERATION are normal since the TGA / FDA etc spend money to study /assess new products. What’s NOT normal or legit is when EXTRA is paid in cash or kind above and beyond standard fees DIRECTLY to an examiner / assessor.

        BTW: Does a large transport company with several hundred trucks get treated “better” than a citizen with only one car….because the transport company pays thousands of times more in Regos etc?

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          Mantaray, not even close. For starters these “fees” are not normal — they were vastly smaller in the 1990s and even smaller still when the agencies were set up. Secondly — your own example proves my point. You pay Qld Transport and Qld transport serves you, making the roads you drive on. The TGA is meant to serve The People but because it’s funded by Big Pharma it predictably ends up “serving” Big Pharma (to “help” them get approval). — Jo ]

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            Jo,
            Thank you for highlighting this. And for all you do.
            I have passed a link to this story on to the UK’s Covid enquiry, in the active expectation that they will do nothing very much about it, very slowly [‘three years for the enquiry, which started this week – I don’t expect a final report until the 2030s, at best].

            I took hydrochloroquiine, [HCL], as a malarial prophylactic, on perhaps fifteen or twenty occasions during my working life, and I never had any side effects. I was never aware of side effects for others in my crews [when I had medical responsibilities]. Other ‘malaria’ drugs – like Mefloquine – do not have that reputation [a colleague was off work for IIRC ~10 days, with hallucinations, etc., after taking that].

            Yet HCL was branded unsafe.

            I recall reading a claim, or an estimation, or possibly a statement, that HCL was the single most given/taken drug in history. I have no idea if that is true, but, as it has been used for at least half a century [I first took it in 1973], globally, HCL may reasonably be in the top fifty drugs used.

            Yet HCL was branded unsafe.

            I hope this gets cleaned up.
            I don’t expect that this will actually be cleaned up.
            Whether in the UK or elsewhere.
            Sad, isn’t it.

            Auto

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            Ted1.

            Something very evil has been going on here, flyingduk posted on NeWCat….I copy my post there.

            Manta, you are off the track.
            It’s not fees that are the problem. The problem is that the pharma companies fund, and therefore control, almost all the research. Even the regulators do very little real research, they mainly just review the information given to them by the manufacturers. The manufacturers determine what research is done, and what results are published. Even hospital research is funded by “Industry grants”.

            Armed with that, they use the regulators as a marketing tool.

            This model has served us very badly with this epidemic.

            You should remember that early on a Dr Zelenko in NY announced that he had found an 80% reduction in hospitalisation with a protocol including early treatment with HCQ. For that he got run out of town.

            Others found a similar result using Ivermectin, then it was banned. After clinical observation noted that asthma patients were underrepresented in hospitalisation it was found that Budesinide seemed to give an 80% reduction too. It never even got a look in. All private research had been effectively prohibited.

            You should remember that the Big Stick that they threatened us with was that if we didn’t all get vaxed the hospitals would be flooded. And here they were suspending the registration of doctors who were telling them how they could cut hospitalisation by 80%.

            As written and repeated above, something very evil has been going on here.

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    Don B

    Dr. Pierre Kory’s book The War on Ivermectin gives detailed information on regulatory capture.

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    I blogged about this too last night

    Did a cartoon for it – feel free to use it if you like Jo

    https://firstfactcheck.substack.com/p/tga-is-96-funded-by-big-pharma

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    I was struck by how healthy everyone in the crowd looked last night! And that I felt comfortable in a crowd for the first time in a long time. Not sure if that was lack of mRNA shedding or just knowing that no one there hates me because I’m not jabbed….it was a great night

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      David Maddison

      It’s wonderful being among people who have not succumbed to covid vaccination.

      Apart from anything else, it tells you they are free and independent thinkers, free of the herd mentality and ask questions about the world around them.

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      Jon Rattin

      I attended one of the Melbourne events Friday week ago- not one person was wearing a mask. I can’t say the same for my local supermarket (not that l judge, I don’t know every masked person’s health situation)

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    David Maddison

    The regulated pay the regulators.

    What could possibly go wrong?

    I’m all for lowering the cost of government but there are far better ways to do this than cost recovery from the regulated.

    This model does not apply to any other industry the government regulates, at least not to this extent. Why should pharmaceuticals be unique?

    It’s difficult to understand where the original idea for this came from. Probably from the industry itself, I suspect, because no politician or public serpent would ever be normally concerned aout the cost of operating a government department. In fact, the more they spend (waste) the more important the individual public serpent and their department are considered to be.

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      John Michelmore

      I doubt there is any saving from having such a close association between regulators, government and manufacturer. One only has to compare the payments for the supply of Covid vaccines versus the big pharmaceutical “contributions to regulation”.
      Then compare the cost to approving an existing drug like IVM and supplying it free to the population. There is little doubt that the current situation can easily lead to corruption and poor decision making, to put it mildly!

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        Ted1.

        This case is very peculiar, because regulators appeared to make no effort to even have input into the decision making.

        Having declared an emergency, the regulators acted as enforcers for the monied drug suppliers.

        Very peculiar! Until you follow the dollar.

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      Rhys Jek-Ted

      This is the exact same model used to fund the APVMA, the Australian Pesticides and Veterinary Medicines Authority. As a registrant in the agricultural chemical industry I can tell everyone they do me, and the business I work for, no favours whatsoever. On the contrary, they can make the conduct of business unnecessarily difficult.

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    David Maddison

    Concerning the Pfizer document released by the TGA (Australia) after a long Freedom From Information struggle by an anonymous person:

    https://www.tga.gov.au/sites/default/files/foi-2389-06.pdf

    Dr John Campbell discusses it at:

    https://youtu.be/fVNFFtmb9gA

    It’s clear that people at the TGA simply didn’t understand the contents of the document and they went ahead with approval anyway or they didn’t care.

    Which was it?

    As it is an international corporation i.e. Big Pharma, it’s likely that the same information was also provided by Pfizer to other regulators such as the FDA etc..

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      Greg in NZ

      You can add New Zimbabwe’s Pharmac to that list, too, David.

      Direktor of (un)Health NZ, Dr Ashley Bloomfield – he who shared the daily Podium of Tooth® with ex-Dear Leader – resigned from his position last year, took his obligatory knighthood (he is now a ‘Sir’) then reappeared last month at the WHO’s launch of their GDHCN as co-chair with a Saudi Arabian doctor.

      Sumpfink stinks in zee state of Den-MARK.

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        RossP

        Greg in the NZ situation I think Medsafe tried to do it’s job and it did not or could not(initially) recommend the Pfizer product. But the rules said it had to send it’s opinion to another body (sorry I have forgotten it’s name) but it is a politically appointed committee and they just binned the Medsafe opinion and said it should get the provisional approval.

        When you read of this happening and assuming it is true then it does not take much to thinks there was a lot of backhanders being dished out in most countries around the world. Pfizer and co were making so much the funding of the backhanders would have been small changeto them.

        https://twitter.com/wolsned/status/1667954056201895938

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          mawm

          It’s all here (below), a fascinating read of the shenanigans of Arden’s government.

          Medsafe’s clinical assessment found:

          “The duration of the vaccine protection has not been established beyond two months.”
          “At this stage, there is limited evidence of protection against severe disease.”
          “There is no long term safety follow-up information.”
          “Vaccine prevention of asymptomatic infection and disease transmission has not been established.”

          The assessment was sent to the Medicines Assessment Advisory Committee, a statutory committee under the Medicines Act.

          Pharmac is responsible for purchasing and funding drugs.

          https://cranmer.substack.com/p/pfizer-vaccine-approval-in-nz-under

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            Greg in NZ

            Thanks for the clarification, and the further reading material: even though I lost two jobs and one flat, sure am glad I never ‘bowed’ to their politrickery. Cheers.

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    Saighdear

    International excess deaths
    Dr. John Campbell https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=95T2Bqht4Xg

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      Sambar

      It seems that a recent leader of the SNP might also have had a conflict of interest in poor old Scotia. Twill be interesting to see how that pans out.

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    David Maddison

    On a related note, Brett Sutton, Victoria’s chief covid cultist and responsible for the covid lockups* and covid policy in general, has now resigned and gone on to become “Director of Health and Biosecurity” at CSIRO from September.

    * https://www.theage.com.au/national/victoria/dan-was-so-furious-five-key-moments-in-brett-sutton-s-career-20230609-p5dfa3.html

    Based on Sutton’s advice, Melburnians were forced to stay home for six separate lockdowns – totalling 260 days – during 2020 and 2021, earning …

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      Simon Thompson ᵐᵇ ᵇˢ

      Do ya remember Slow learner Slugger bragging that cases would not get above 800 a day “On his watch”? Well from 21/9/2021 ( after 2,400,000 Victorians were Jab Jab), Victoria has had greater than 800 cases a day for all but ONe day peaking at 47 000 cases. So I guess Slugger moves at a snails pace .
      Never forget he was installed 3 years after qualifying with a deputy who had been qualified for 20 years. And don’t ask about his family ties! Oh, and he took 24 years to specialise in public health!
      Not only has the TGA failed, I have serious questions about AHPRA following slavishly the delusions of Slugger Sutton to defang doctors of conscience.
      Has anyone any recollection of Slugger mouthing the words “Vitamin D” or “Zinc”?

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        Ted1.

        Surely some day some body will read the St Basil’s report. The man is not competent to make a sandwich, let alone run a shop.

        A niece, a science teacher, bridled at my early criticism of Brett Sutton. “I won’t hear a word against him”.

        When the St Basil’s inquiry was being reported in the media I dropped her a line.

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      Vicki

      I heard just a short clip of Sutton’s comments on his resignation. Interestingly, he stated, somewhat quietly, that whatever decisions he made it was in the belief that he was doing the right thing.I may be imagining it, but I feel that he knows the truth behind the flawed decision to adopt an insufficiently trialled novel vaccine.

      The same could be read of the departing words of Prof. Brendan Murphy.

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        David Maddison

        There is no excuse for anyone having a “belief that (they were) doing the right thing”.

        Absolutely none.

        All the information was available and published about the dangers of the vaccines and the availability of effective treatment protocols.

        Don’t forgive. Don’t forget. Prosecute.

        Have no mercy.

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          Ted1.

          At least Brendan Murphy’s body language suggested his employment contract was forcing him to do and say what he didn’t believe, and he got out of the job.

          The other bloke was just too carefree for me.

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        Gob

        I agree; it’s their sphere of interest and they could hardly fail to have read what we have and drawn the same conclusion; some time soon a large scale malfeasance prosecution needs go on foot and scoop up all the top level officials who abetted the covid enormity.

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      John Connor II

      Victoria’s chief covid cultist

      Is that a typo?
      Shouldn’t it be “cullist”?
      ..and a new word enters the lexicon…

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    Robber

    DO any of our politicians care?

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      David Maddison

      Only about five or less politicians in all of Australia care. E.g. Senator Babet, Senator Roberts, Senator Rennick.

      The rest are clueless and don’t care in any case.

      No public serpents care, they would have been whistle blowers if they did.

      No police care what they did. Only one or two police in Victoria resigned in disgust over what they were asked to do.

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        Mike Jonas

        Being a whistleblower can be extremely challenging, and they can end up broke and psychological wrecks. The problem there is that the industry turns their full force on the whistleblower, and if they don’t get support from the media, the politicians, etc, they go under. So I have some sympathy with non-powerful people who see that things are wrong but dare not speak up. Sometimes, of course, it’s a suspicion but not a certainty, which makes it even more difficult. Leaks are a possible course of action, but if the media won’t report them they don’t get heard.

        I take my hat off to the two police in Victoria who resigned in disgust, as I do to those many workers who refused to be vaccinated. It takes a lot of courage, and they can expect to be the only ones hurt.

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          Ted1

          The chief whistleblowers are near or past retiring age. That is why they can afford to speak up. They have a degree of immunity to the regular punishment of deprivation of means.

          I thought it exquisite when Professor Robert Clancy thumbed his nose at the regulators by addressing a critical essay to. “The class of ’65.” Evidently his class, which would make him my age. Touch me if you dare!

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            Vicki

            Ted, you are right. But I know one of the chief whistleblowers, and I can tell you that the isolation, and avoidance by erstwhile colleagues and prior friends really hurt.

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              mawm

              As a retired medical specialist I had no work requirements for vaccination. Having realised early on that the whole covid narrative and response was absurd, when the vaccine arrived I refused it to the chagrin of many. Fortunately my closest friends, also medical and vaccinated, gave me unquestioned support. They will never be forgotten.

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    Neville

    But will last night’s Perth meeting generate any ongoing interest in the MSM?
    If it does we’ll probably see a condemnation of those people who attended and the speakers.
    I hope I’m wrong and we can only hope for some intelligent response and proper exposure to help the average voter to understand this very cosy and very profitable relationship. Who knows?

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    Peter Fitzroy

    You want ‘small government’ then this is the result. Make up your mind – do you want government involvement and regulation enforcement or do you want regulatory capture? You can only have one

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      b.nice

      And yet don’t have small government, do we.

      An odd thought which would never cross to your mind.

      They could have HONESTY and INTEGRITY, thus not allow themselves to be bought-off.

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      True, we have to make that choice. In the area of biosecurity I’ve seen State and Commonwealth agencies moving toward partnership with industry over the last 2-3 decades for the purpose of cost reduction. That’s a bit like police forces partnering with organised crime so they can cut costs to the taxpayers.

      There has been de-skilling and outsourcing of expertise in these agencies. As professional entomologists, botanists, mycologists, nematologists and so on retire they are not being replaced by new graduates in their fields. New positions are more likely to be junior staff who answer online applications, or higher paid specialists in the nebulous fields of equal opportunity, media studies, global policy etc.

      Well, I’d choose a return to the level of government involvement and regulation enforcement we had 50 years ago. Ayn Rand once wrote that the only legitimate functions of government are defence, police and the courts; I’d add regulatory bodies necessary to maintain minimum standards of safety in areas like building construction, medicine and biosecurity. Commercial interests can only be trusted to act in their own interests.

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      KP

      That’s a narrow view, there are more than two options, but outside your comfort zone-

      We could have Govt involved in writing regulations and enforcing them, which we have.
      We could have industries self-policing to meet Govt regulations, which we have in some areas.

      We could have no Govt involvement and no regulations, which is what the human race has had for the thousands of years that got us to where we are! If you had to pay the full price of your doctor and medication I’m sure you would be a lot more careful about how much money you spent. Some people might even take an interest in their health, how they got to where they are and what all the options for treatment are.

      Run the whole health system without Govt involvement, the doctors registration, the drugs available, the hospitals, the chemists shops.. The cost savings would be enough to pay off the national debt!

      As usual, the Govt is just an expensive distortion on the market, a panacea for people expecting the false hope that they will be safe, while unaware of how much that illusion of safety is costing them.

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        Peter Fitzroy

        are you speaking of the legislative department of PWC? – in past times this department was called the Federal govt of Australia. Can you name one gov which is not held in the thrall of business?

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      Broadie

      Make up your mind – do you want government involvement and regulation enforcement or do you want regulatory capture? You can only have one

      Thank-you for the opportunity PF. I have used experience to make up my mind. My experience is quite contrary to your idealistic perception of how the system works. We do have government involvement and regulation enforcement running along with industry funded regulatory capture. The correct term is Fascism. There is no small government as all that happens is the regulators move up a level to where they are accrediting the industry regulator.
      The regulator has to walk a fine line between sharing the original ‘budget saving’ and sourcing income from those being regulated.

      To demonstrate the quandary faced for those seeking to earn an income in assessing compliance.
      Who do you think a builder will call to assess their work? An assessor who stringently applied all aspects of the building code and forced the builder to suffer a large cost or the assessor who signs off and approves the works?
      The resulting poor standards generally means the bureaucracy are now twice as busy as not only are they having to regulate the accreditation industry, they are in court sorting out the defects and failures.

      The same situation occurred when we began paying Politicians. Will the Politicians act for the electors or will they act for the back room of the Party that control pre-selection and the narrative?

      To clear your confusion. ‘Small Government’ is not having the regulation in the first place.
      I would much rather live in building built in an unregulated environment by a reputable builder than a building built by a compliant builder in a regulated environment.

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        So well said. Thank you.

        Reputation is the test that matters in the court of public opinion. But that needs a real free media…

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          Peter Fitzroy

          so you post about big pharma and regulations (including doing its own oversight), and in another example, in Australia the way in which PWC took over huge parts of gov regulatory oversight, and now you talk about reputation? What then is the role of gov in regulation, and how will it manage that regulation

          What is the reputation of Big Phama, PWC?

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            Peter, the reputation of Big Pharma is growing to be that of psychopathic self-interested entities willing to kill people for profit.

            I have no comment on PWC. If you read my blog you’d know I have little interest in accounting.

            The role of government in regulation should be to serve the people (to say the bleeding obvious).

            Off the top of my head, here’s a rough draft, subject to change without notice:

            1. A taxpayer funded body could serve by analyzing the contents (randomly) of pharmacuetical drugs to make sure all companies (and supplement manufacturers) are supplying what they say they are, and their labels are correct. All results should be public. Companies that cheat or decieve will get “a reputation”.
            2. The public funded universities should run RCT drug tests that the Pharma industry has no involvement in.
            3. Universities need to choose, are they Private or Public institutions. They can’t be both. Any university taking money from Big Pharma or Big Pharma shareholders (BlackRock, Bill Gates etc, most of the ASX or NYSE) should be excluded from government grants of any sort. This will rule out 100% of Australian universities as is who are tools of their corporate donors/pension funds/etc. Their reputations will be reduced to being just schools for children aged 18-30. They should not receive taxpayer funds to educate Australian students (or foreign students) either. Let them sink or swim in the private market with best wishes from me. If they produce employable graduates they may survive on reputation.
            3. New research institutions that are 100% publicly funded may be useful (I’m not decided on this). Perhaps we are better off without them? They should accept $0 from private industry, philanthropy, alumi, or any source outside the taxpayer. The Vice Chancellor should be elected by taxpayers. Let them serve the people.

            Since you asked…

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              Hanrahan

              Jo, I have always been uneasy about bulk billed medical with no co-payment. It’s an open invitation for abuse and overuse.

              Some years ago, I think it was a lib government, proposed such a co-payment to fund medical research but that wasn’t accepted and I wasn’t in favour of gov. going out in competition to find the silver bullet for cancer anyway when there is so much low hanging fruit re-purposing old drugs.

              That money could easily fund what you say and do a definitive test on D3 on the side.

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                Broadie

                What,
                You didn’t like Edelsten’s Medical Centres

                – the forerunners of modern corporate medical practices – were open 24 hours, and were fitted with chandeliers, grand pianos, and mink-covered examination tables.[3]

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                PeterPetrum

                Yes Hanrahan, it was Tony Abbott who proposed a $7 copayment to fund medical research. It was shouted down by Labor and Greens and the idea withered on the vine.

                It would have been a minor cost for most and would have been a boon for medicine.

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              red edwards

              Jo, one useful, tax payer funded, research is testing public domain drugs for alternative functionality. Inasmuch as there is no other logical funding source, those sort of trials should be a public function. Otherwise, they won’t get done at all. . .

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                Yes red edwards, exactly my thoughts. As I keep saying when there is no profit incentive to study vitamins or out of patent drugs, that is exactly what the public researchers should be doing, and sometimes they do, but mostly their findings disappear like a stone.

                We need to get Big Corporations out of public universities. Get competition back into research and education. Private unis to compete with public universities. Not some quasi-blended monopoly where every institution is part owned by Big Money.

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              James

              The situation is worse in USA. We have Universities that do pharma trials. Plus they own hospitals and medical groups. University of Rochester is one such institution. There are lots of UR clinics for all sorts of specialities within 100km of Rochester. Good luck finding an independent Doctor.

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            Broadie

            I think we can work with this thought bubble of yours PF.

            PWC is a great example of what is called a public private partnership. The historic description would be a Fascist relationship with the bureaucracy, I use that as a description of a governing structure no way related to the Actors / Activists who were organised for the Women’s Rally in Melbourne.

            So imagine we have a Parliament full of Arts Law students whose generally better qualified mates are in private industry say as Lawyers and Accountants. Now let us imagine over time that one group evolved to write garbage legislation open to interpretation so that their mates in the private industry could make a packet sorting out the mess. In exchange those in private industry do not use their work ethics and brain power to remove their compatriots in cushy public funded leather from their historically (based on their skill level) unusually comfortable positions.

            Now this is very comfortable for the Administrative State and we call this Australia.

            There is one problem however and that is the industries that used to say for example make various chemicals and drugs no longer exist as they were unable to compete under the legislative burden of Environmental, HR, Tax, Super etc against tariff exempt slave labour products from overseas. The Production and research laboratories run by these companies exchanged samples as part of NATA compliance and would test competitor’s products. Bad products would receive bad publicity. They also funded scholarships in university and technical colleges to promote research and improve the standard of graduates.

            All gone!!! This structure has been replaced by headless chickens attempting to regulate using whatever is the trendy catch phrase of the time. Any surviving business will be currently undergoing assessment from some environmentally trained bank employee as to their ESG score for Scope 3. They will not be making a better product more efficiently. They will be sitting cap in hand hoping for enough borrowed funds to last another week.

            Good luck PF with whatever it is you eat, drink or are prescribed. No one is watching or cares!

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    Neville

    We should never forget that developing countries’ co2 emissions have SOARED for decades and TRILLIONs of $ have been WASTED by OECD countries for NOTHING.
    Just more proof that the MSM can easily ignore data and evidence for a very long time.
    Again I just hope somebody in the MSM reports positively on the Perth meeting and govts and big Pharma really start to feel the heat.

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    another ian

    More “light from the hill” –

    “White House Sends Out Guidance Mandating Face Masks and Social Distancing for the Unvaccinated”

    https://pjmedia.com/news-and-politics/rick-moran/2023/06/11/white-house-sends-out-guidance-mandating-face-masks-and-social-distancing-for-the-unvaccinated-n1702282

    (/s)

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    Doctor T

    I have followed closely Marianne Demasi since her work on statins, and later the officially sanctioned high carbohydrate low fat diet.
    Both were hugely profitable victories for multinational companies at the expense of population and individual health.
    The BMJ article certainly provided a plausible explanation for many otherwise inexplicable TGA decisions.

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      Simon Thompson ᵐᵇ ᵇˢ

      And which group of Boffins wrote a letter calculating the carnage resulting from Marianne’s statin reporting which never played out in the excess death statistics? Year one of COVID – no excess deaths in Australia, add the JAb Jab and suddenly muchos excess mortality.
      Statins can appease an insurance “Medical” to avoid loading.
      I recall they may even help men under 50 who have already had heart attacks.
      (almost certainly by pleiotropic antiinflammatory effect- not cholesterol lowering per se).
      All the money spent measuring cholesterol, prescribing cholesterol lowering agents
      is just a giant scam. It gives insight into the marketing- 50% of profit is backhanded
      to senior medicos to influence their followers. I suspect the recent rash of resignantions
      of Prime minister/Premier/CHO may be influenced by covert fabulous wealth in the form of
      Big Pharma doling out the cash to their loyal kommissars.
      Marianne is very approachable on social media too.

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      another ian

      “How Ancel Keys Brainwashed the Masses Into Fearing Meat (He’s Wrong)”

      https://carnivoreaurelius.com/ancel-keys/

      And

      “Records Found in Dusty Basement Undermine Decades of Dietary Advice
      Raw data from a 40-year-old study raises new questions about fats”

      https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/records-found-in-dusty-basement-undermine-decades-of-dietary-advice/

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    ianl

    Another aspect to this disgusting corruption through power:

    “What really went on inside the Wuhan lab weeks before Covid erupted

    https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/inside-wuhan-lab-covid-pandemic-china-america-qhjwwwvm0

    https://archive.is/V4pwW

    Fresh evidence drawn from confidential files reveals Chinese scientists spliced together deadly pathogens shortly before the pandemic, the Sunday Times Insight team report Sunday June 11, 2023″

    Sorry it’s paywalled, but I do tend to believe most of it. The basic reason I think some of it is still crab-walking B/S is that every few paragraphs an excuse for Western scientists (especially Fauci) not knowing what the Wuhan lab was actually doing is proffered.

    And of course the basic claim is that the Wuhan personnel hid most of the critical evidence from the US funders – yet, note that there are lab workers in Baric’s US pond who claim they did know.

    While this article is what the Americans call a “limited hangout” (we call it a partial whitewash), it is another big step forward, equivalent to the TGA being funded by those it is charged to regulate.

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      KP

      Yeah, it has a political bias evident from the start. Things like tossing in the ban on gain of function by Obama, but no mention of the ban being rescinded. I’m sure the Americans are working as hard as they can with ‘cultural specific’ diseases, the Russians threw up some very suspicious stuff from the Yank’s biolabs in Ukraine. Still, it was obvious from the start that its a lab creation, the crap about people eating bats was so pathetic.

      Luckily the Chinese didn’t manage to limit Covid to affecting non-Asians only, although its only a matter of time I expect. I wonder what happened to the biolab samples we had landed in Melbourne, is the same work now going on there?

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    NuThink

    I read this book about 30 years ago.

    There’s Gold in Them Thar Pills: An Enquiry into the Medical-Industrial Complex

    Alan Klass

    There is a lot of information out there, it just does NOT surface in the Main Stream Media.

    For more sources just search for There’s Gold in Them Thar Pills

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    Graham Richards

    Now let’s find out which “Big Pharma Company / Companies “ have the Government blessed with FUNDING / Tax Benefits “ to build the Australian based mRNA / Poison facility.

    Investigators get cracking, the cockroaches will be scattering as the light shines on them.

    Can someone help get this travesty made public. Can’t see the MSM rushing to help lest they lose advertising revenue!!!

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      Philip

      Lest they lose their advertising revenue.

      Ahhh, you see. This is where the ABC comes of value. Right? NO advertising revenue required there, just the TRUTH! Hmmm….

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      Vicki

      Agree. This facility is seriously worrying. Once again, it will be lauded as a fantastic advance for Medicine – particularly cancer treatment.

      But will the full story in respect to adequate RCTs having been conducted for the new mRNA drugs to emerge from this facility? Why am I sceptical????

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    David-of-Cooyal-in-Oz

    Morning Jo,
    In your post you include:

    ” But don’t just stop there, the media are culpable too — why aren’t they grilling the politicians, the TGA, the AMA? Do they get advertising money from BigPharma, or is it more that they lack the courage to speak the truth, or need…”

    Seems to me that control of the media is obtained through Mr Global’s control of the board rooms via its shareholdings. True? Who needs advertising?
    Cheers
    Dave B

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    Robert Swan

    Not convinced that the source of funding is the problem.

    In the mid-’90s, when Norman Swan’s Health Report was really good, I remember hearing how drug x had been approved by the FDA in America, but the TGA had declined to approve it because the new drug performed no better than already approved ones. Happened again for drug y. And z. We also heard comparisons of prices paid for the same drugs by different countries and how the TGA usually arranged very good prices for drugs that it did approve.

    At that time Australia’s TGA seemed to be doing a pretty good job, but the US FDA was already captured. What I think happened is that the drug companies got on the line to their contacts at the Republican Party who got onto George Bush who had a chat with his chum John Howard, urging him to see if he might convince the TGA to simply accept FDA rulings. Eager to please, a few judicious changes to the TGA advisory boards gets the job done.

    Speculation on my part, but it hangs together.

    My dad used to run a geriatric hospital, and had a comparable story. In those days, patients who weren’t up to looking after their own financial affairs could entrust them to the NSW Protective Office. They did a good job. Dad was used to fending off relatives of patients who clearly just wanted to get their hands on the old boy’s money. These relatives didn’t just complain to Dad. MPs received letters and got into action. In due course the Protective Office was wound up, and the Guardianship Board was created. Dad saw those very same greedy relatives being appointed as “guardians”.

    Patients lost their money, but the MPs heard far fewer complaints so could give themselves a pat on the back, knowing they had done some “good”.

    In that case, the problem was clueless politicians. In the TGA case I blame politicians as well, though this time some of them might well know what they’re doing.

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      Geoff Sherrington

      Robert,
      My wife and I met the NSW Protection people when her Mum died. We did not invite them to be involved. Nobody was contesting the tiny estate. We simply received a letter from them, out of the blue, demanding that we hand them the Deeds to her little home.
      We visited a guy in their very comfortable Sydney offices, where my wife told him in very plain terms that he could demand the Deeds until Hell froze over and that we would seek legal advice about extortion if they continued to contact us.

      End of story. Geoff S

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        Robert Swan

        Geoff Sherrington,

        I wasn’t claiming that they were perfect, and maybe complaints about officiousness over deceased (intestate, I guess) estates was really what got the MPs moving, but Dad’s complaint was that the Guardianship Board did a terrible job for his living patients. I don’t know whether it was any improvement for estates.

        Sorry if the little parable offended. It was only meant to illustrate the key point that there are few situations so bad that political intervention can’t make them worse.

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          From everything I know I think this description of the NSW Guardianship QUANGO is spoton
          https://www.medicalerroraustralia.com/public-trustee-untrustworthy-evil/

          read and enjoy –
          The lesson is keep your Wills up to date and give enduring P o A to a trusted person.

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          Guardianship is not a money maker for NSW Trustee & Guardian, on the contrary. Clients under the Trustee have assets stripped to pay for those under Guardianship but it isn’t enough. The self-funding model is a disgrace all around Australia.

          Here is a report from a few days ago on the current state in NSW https://aptagie.com.au/property

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          Robert Swan

          wazz, Mary Vecchio,

          Thanks. Worthwhile, though depressing. Dad’s story was from the first half of the ’80s and things have clearly gone badly downhill since then.

          One key message: when a body is described independent it should be read unaccountable and soon, if not already, off the rails.

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      Vicki

      At that time Australia’s TGA seemed to be doing a pretty good job

      Yes – from speaking to pharmacologists and others who worked in that era – this was the general consensus. Yet, there is ample evidence that there has been some sort of change in procedure and/or requisite investigative work.

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        Broadie

        The change is affectionately called the ‘March through the Institutions’. Socialism works until you run out of other peoples money according to Thatcher. The first thing the good socialist coming to power does is identifies the hollow logs. Funds provisioned for future needs. A good example was documented by Michael Smith regarding provisions for widows and orphans of those lost in mining accidents. Gillard and Wilson were better able to invest the funds.

        and here is a contemporaneous record of mining division secretary Vic Nicoletto denying that the miners who owned the fund approved on the Gillard/Wilson takeover plan.

        Mr Nicoletto said until Mr Wilson’s appointment the AWU hierarchy had nothing to do with the running of the fund.

        “It has been run from the Goldfields all its life”.

        “But now Mr Wilson, for whatever reason, wants it transferred to Perth”.

        Good intentions run well are a great target. Honourable institutions are a stepping stone for those marching through to positions of power.

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    Maptram

    The words were there all along. Early in the COVID debacle, whenever invermectin was suggested as a treatment, words such as “studies have shown no benefit etc”. But there was no mention of what was studied and who would benefit. Studies of the bottom lines of big pharma companies would indeed show no benefit.

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      David Maddison

      The Official Script of the Official Doctrine usually reads something like:

      ‘A study suggests’
      ‘Scientists find’
      ‘Experts agree’
      ‘Doctors are baffled ‘

      And other lies, spouted by the controlled corporate media, reading propaganda off a teleprompter, for grown ups to lap up without question.

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    David Maddison

    As readers here know, but not many others, correction of Vitamin D deficiency (among others) can dramatically reduce covid mortality and severity, but there wasn’t a word from “authorities” (sic) about it.

    Instead we get nonsense such as doctors are ordering too many Vitamin D tests and they cause global warming.

    https://www.sydney.edu.au/news-opinion/news/2022/08/24/cutting-down-vitamin-d-tests-could-help-lower-carbon-footprint-of-healthcare.html

    Cutting down vitamin D tests could help lower carbon cost of healthcare

    24 August 2022

    Unnecessary vitamin D testing in Australia is costing our healthcare system up to $87 million and is contributing to the sector’s significant but avoidable carbon footprint, say researchers.

    A study examining the climate impact of low-value healthcare activity in Australia has found that unnecessary vitamin D tests generated carbon emissions equivalent to a car driving from Sydney to Perth 59 times.

    Or that Vitamin D is toxic. Well, yes, in ridiculous doses, like 150,000 IU per day. But even then, not so bad.

    https://www.abc.net.au/news/health/2022-07-06/vitamin-d-overdosing-toxic-effect-how-much-should-you-take/101205656

    And you know it must be true when “Fact Checkers” (sic) say it isn’t.

    https://www.factcheck.org/2020/06/does-vitamin-d-protect-against-covid-19/

    Q: Does vitamin D help protect against COVID-19?

    A: Some scientists have hypothesized vitamin D might be helpful, but there is no direct evidence that vitamin D can prevent COVID-19 or lessen disease severity.

    ALSO SEE

    https://www.aap.com.au/factcheck/vitamin-d-claim-for-covid-19-fails-to-shine-light-on-evidence/

    THE VERDICT
    Based on the evidence, AAP FactCheck found the claims in the Facebook post to be false. There is currently no conclusive medical evidence that vitamin D can prevent COVID-19 or reduce its severity. There is also no evidence to support a recommendation of taking up to 5000IU of vitamin D supplements as a preventative for COVID-19.

    False – The primary claim of the content is factually inaccurate.

    * AAP FactCheck is accredited by the Poynter Institute’s International Fact-Checking Network, which promotes best practice through a stringent and transparent Code of Principles. https://aap.com.au/

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      wal1957

      Fact Checkers have as much credibility as politicians.
      It’s a pity that a lot of the general public actually believe Fact Checkers.

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      Vicki

      When I told my GP that my high levels of VitD3 were the result of taking supplements , she said very softly (& quickly), “Don’t stop!”

      Clearly, many GPs know the truth, but it is not in their interest to say so.

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    Grogery

    the Australian TGA (drug approval agency) gets 96% of its budget from the industry it supposedly is a watchdog for

    I’d be interested to know where the remaining 4% of funding comes from. I doubt it would be from sources with no skin in the game.

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    STJOHNOFGRAFTON

    The TGA is seemingly stymied by a conflict of interest where their role of protecting the public against shonky therapeutic goods may have become suborned by certain drug companies.

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    Paying budgets it seems secures,
    Approval of drugs as cures,
    For return favours paying,
    As we know from the saying,
    Scratch my back and I’ll scratch yours.

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    Honk R Smith

    “Captured”
    Pretty funny.
    Implies that they made an attempt to get away.

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    David Maddison

    Despite the incompetence and/or corruption at the TGA approving a poorly tested, ineffective and dangerous “vaccine” whilst banning known safe and effective treatments the consumer would still have been protected had the Government not done one thing both in Australia and elsewhere.

    The Government exempted covid vaccine manufacturers from liability for any harm their product might do.

    Had manufacturers been liable for the injuries and deaths their defective product would cause, it would be a different matter.

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    Robber

    Yet the TGA is part of the Australian Government Department of Health.
    “Medicines and medical devices associated with COVID-19 were prioritised and their safety and efficacy assessed through stringent pre-market assessments and thorough post-market safety monitoring.”

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    Philip

    As John Laws said repeatedly every morning, “we must trust the experts”.

    It’s an astonishing stupidity that plagues most people, even the non-stupid ones. It is perfectly logical after all. Why would you not trust an expert? An expert knows everything. You can’t blame people for doing it. It’s instinctual. But it’s just not true.

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    david

    At this convention was there any discussion not only of vaccine effectiveness and dangers, but also on the antivirals that are now being prescribed for new covid cases such as Molnupiravir, Nirmatrelvir and Ritonair?

    I assume with mild – moderate covid cases it could be prudent to avoid these antivirals because of poor risk/ benefit ?

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      Vicki

      David, I understand, at least in Australia, doctors in hospitals treating Covid patients are prescribing Paxlovid, which does appear to lessen symptoms in the very ill. However, I also understand it is thought to be responsible for some cases of relapse, or rebound.

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    Philip

    It’s interesting to remember that Trump was one of the main instigators of the quick fix vaccine. And it was his type of mindset, his political and philosophical framework, that enabled an experimental drug onto the public. Remember his speech, “I said how long can you get me the vaccine, they said X months I said that’s too long”. But his thinking would also facilitate existing cheap drugs to work as well. He just wanted solution.

    IT’s also interesting to note who was first in line for the vaccine when it appeared. Most centre right political pundits on Sky. Are our most acclaimed skeptical thinkers skeptical enough?

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      SimonB

      Trumps ego and fast action to decisions are problematic as his initial advice was that the upper echelons of medical bureaucracy were working for the public, rather than the reality of the self interest and now publicly visible malfeasance of Collins, Fauci et al!
      His gungho style is a liability in many ways, but in no way worse than the utter pliability of the dementia riddled puppet currently being manipulated because his ego and sense of entitlement demanded the position he’d been promised from 40 years of swamp deals!
      Political history is riddled with examples of actions from ego driven leaders, but the corrupt advisors is another level of peril for the masses.
      That point is amply demonstrated by the failure of Fauci in the ’80’s being still in the position forty years later!

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        Honk R Smith

        ‘Trump’ is a phenom of historical proportion.
        His current power, which keeps steadily growing, is almost entirely the product the hysterical reaction of the power structure he threatens.
        Did any of us understand the breath of the Global Deep State in 2016?
        This post is about the unbelievable corruption the Pan/Trump convergence has exposed.
        96%?!
        Half that is outrageous.
        (A corruption already visible in ‘Climate Science’ that we were all too polite to mention.)

        I don’t think Trump had any idea of the ‘depth’ of DC/Global/Corporate/Media Deep State.
        (So wantonly deranged they’ve been reduced to rolling out flying saucers.)
        Which apparently only crash in the US.

        Only the most TFH ‘conspiracy theorists’ anticipated their willingness to destroy all to destroy the Orange menace.

        Trump is seriously flawed.
        But IMHO, all we got.
        TRUMP 2024
        I see no other junk yard dogs capable of Alpha-ing this situation.

        Besides that, he’s funny.
        Recent speech …
        “Every time I fly over a Blue state, I get a a subpoena.”

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          Hanrahan

          Trump is seriously flawed.

          But not evil.

          This fiasco makes me think his biggest problem is choosing people to do a job. It’s most evident in his poor choice of personal lawyers. He also thought he could trust those who were not Trumpists to be professional and do the job they were paid to do.

          If he makes it back he will no longer be under this delusion. Many more heads will roll second time around.

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          Kalm Keith

          That’s it!

          The only question is, can all those who agree with you get an uncorrupted election count next year.

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            Honk R Smith

            ‘Twas in the back of my mind as I was pontificating.
            I think not.
            It’s like this blog, we talk as if there is an honest debate about atmospheric science.
            ‘They’ are magnificent in controlling the narrative.
            We argue about ‘vote’ counting integrity when Trump was really ousted via propagandistic information manipulation.
            Like 2020, 2024 will be an Installation.
            If that appears to be failing them, they’ll just use tanks.
            If they are not EV tanks, I will write a stern letter to my Congresspersonorother.

            [Can we take these off topic threads to an unthreaded? Thanks, but I’m glad you like the blog. — Jo]

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      At the beginning, as first requests for vaccination came out, everybody hoped they were talking about real vaccines not that what later was offerd as “vaccine”.

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    SimonB

    There’s no doubts the critical thinkers questions from 2016 US politics and 2020 covid capture are now being answered by events, research and facts.
    The real question now becomes are the majority of the upper echelons in the media going to return to investigative journalism using Musks fearless trail, or continue to believe the Marxist utopia is attainable?

    The proof of the future of a WEF utopia is in European blackouts, US Soros funded Blue state lawlessness, political corruption and the advance of the US 87,000 tax stormtroopers thru the middle class.

    The CCP 100 year plan to become the world superpower is ahead of schedule as their carefully laid tactics to have sovereign countries internally fighting on at least two fronts has exploded under millions of useful idiots in bureaucracy and woke corporations initially – and still -indoctrinated in our own education systems by Marxist ideologues.

    Communists, Socialists, Marxist, Fascists all come from the same school of thought; control your thoughts thru fear, control your advancement thru propaganda, control your money thru equity.

    Their biggest fear; free thinkers!
    Take your available buying power, takes your possibilities to affect their control, ensures you have nothing and then they don’t have to care if you are happy or not, you’re pliable!

    Time to get behind Musk and those who’ve followed his lead; The AMP doctors, the individuals who see the capture of the Wests and Australian ‘conservative’ parties who are no opposition at all, because the current Australian government has no desire to respond to the corruption of TGA, ATAGI, AHPRA and dozens of other bureaucrats in Alphabet departments.

    The Labor government saw the energy destruction of European countries and told Aussie voters it was Russia, the Labor government saw the efficacy of Ivermectin in Utta Pradesh and ignored results. They are cut from the same cloth as Marxists worldwide and fully intended to steamroll Australian economic advancement from the last quarter century to advantage globalist agendas, not national sovereignty. The stark reality is that the only utopia is for the top tier of the Marxist pyramid…….as it always has been thru history.

    (No separate paragraphs, long reading time causes my eyes to scream) CTS

    [Paragraphs added. Short comments with formatting are faster to approve. – Jo]

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    Dennis

    I was in a doctor’s surgery last week for a minor procedure and the senior nurse reminded me that I was due for influenza and covid vaccinations, and when I declined she said she would make sure my decision was recorded on my medical records.

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    Nick Werner

    Just one minor correction… we say Canada eh.

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    Len

    I noticed in today’s Western Australian that quite a few King’s Birthday Honours went to those who ran the Covid 19 responses

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    John Connor II

    Bombshell “Leaked” Pfizer “Confidential Report”: “Trading in Death and Disease”. 393 Pages of Vaccine “Adverse Events”

    These were not provided to me by Pfizer but through a source at the EMA (European Medicines Agency). I have no reason to doubt this document. Treat it as you wish. Assuming this source through the EMA is providing an accurate document and it sure appears as such, a lot of horrific conclusions should follow.

    Spend time looking at it.
    I do not know how to estimate the under-reporting factor with this data. This data is reflective of December 19, 2021 to June 18, 2022.

    Did Regulatory bodies have this and line people up like cans at a shooting range?

    If Blood disorders doesn’t get you, how about cardiac events? There are pages and pages of Congenital defects, genetic and familial disorders.

    Total Number of Adverse Events 1,591,026 (Interval) and 4,964,106 (Cumulative)!

    Blood and Lymphatic System Disorders Spontaneous Adverse Events: 100,970

    Cardiac Disorders Spontaneous Adverse Events: 126,193

    Congenital Familial and Genetic Disorders: 1143

    (on these numbers, you have to consider how many women might have been pregnant of child bearing age)

    Ear and Labyrinth Disorders: 47,038

    Endocrine Disorders: 4,115

    Eye Disorders: 61,518

    GastroIntestinal Orders: 317,811

    General Disorders and Administration Site Conditions: 1,605,985

    Hepatobiliary Disorders: 4,380

    Immune System Disorders: 31,895

    Infections and Infestations: 167,382

    Injury, Poisoning, Procedural, Complication: 241,342

    https://lawyerlisa.substack.com/api/v1/file/058b17cf-9b35-414e-8108-23cd4a5b37a9.pdf

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    Memoryvault

    Monday Monday
    What happened to Monday?

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h81Ojd3d2rY

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    NuThink

    Australia did NOT have to follow the lead of the USA, and should have done their own due diligence.

    After all we have for a long time being told by our pollies that we don’t want to go down the American Health Care route.

    This from the Queensland Goverment website.

    Due diligence involves taking reasonable steps to make sure that you are not making risky or poor decisions, paying too much or breaking any regulations or rules. When purchasing a business, you are responsible for assessing the business thoroughly to confirm that it is as ethical, compliant and profitable as claimed.

    Secondly, IIRC, Trump had the costs of drugs, which the Federal Government paid for, reduced so there would have been some rather miffed people in the drug industry.

    Same in Oz recently where the government has allowed doctors to prescribe some medications with extra repeats to save the patient some money and the hassle of going to the pharmacy so often, and there was a hue an cry from some pharmacists that they would lose money.

    So tongue in cheek, the safety and health of the patient is their top priority, not the money.

    They could of course purchase a robotic pill dispenser such as from these guys.

    https://www.gollmann.com.au/en_AU?gclid=EAIaIQobChMIx-qRmu28_wIVmRdgCh3ePgRvEAAYASAAEgKp0PD_BwE

    There are a few manufacturers of similar type machines.

    PS My mum would not accept the excuse from us kids when we did something wrong that John did it, with “So if John stuck his head in a fire, would you do the same”.

    But that was when we grew up in the fifties.

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    David Maddison

    The New Zimbabwe former PM went from Comrade to Dame remarkably quickly, presumably as a reward for her appalling performance over covid.

    The Spectator comments:

    https://www.spectator.com.au/2023/06/from-comrade-to-dame-in-a-new-york-minute/

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    John B

    Buying influence! Russell Brand with ex Pfizer exec Dr Peter Rost.
    Only 2 minutes.

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    Gerry, England

    The legacy media are certainly complicit in this. Yesterday’s Mail on Sunday had an article on a proposal to license Ivermectin to treat scabies, particularly given that other treatments are proving ineffective and case numbers are increasing. As we know here, Ivermectin is licensed in many countries for this purpose. The article’s title refers to it as horse de-wormer and the goes on to mention that it has been suggested as a treatment for Covid, followed by the outrageous lie that there are no studies to prove that it works. I personally know it does as after one dose as per the FLCCC protocol, all my symptoms cleared within 24 hours.

    Congratulations to Novak Djokovic for becoming the all time tennis Grand Slam winner – just need to add Wimbledon and the US Open for a clean sweep.

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