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I believe this post from yesterday is worthy of much more exposure
Anyone who has not heard what this guy Mayo has to say, need to take the time to listen and understand what the Voice is about… ,
I really do not understand how so many people in authority and influential positions are supporting this proposal.
My faith in the Australian voter reaches ne lows !
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So you don’t like what one guy says (Mayo) years ago and throw out what every other proponent has to say .
You link to an undated, pre-legislative article that mixes up recognition with the voice and throws in some hysteria about communism to boot. Recognition is linked to a voice but precedes it and stands on its own.
The Australian voters are not voting for the things you’ve just written about. Time to do your own research and find out what passed parliament to be the referendum proposal.
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Most indigenous people die from circulatory disease brought about by unhealthy food.
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It’s not one guy. There are at least a few voice advocates who have (in a brazen or unguarded moment of candoor) expressed a greater purpose for the voice than simply recognition and advising govt on Aborignal issues. Sorry I don’t have the quotes handy. No, that’s not a cop-out.
In terms of the referendum it does not stand on its own. We are being asked to recognise the First Peoples of Australia by establishing an Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander Voice. We are not being offered another way to recognise ATSI peoples. We are not being asked to recognise ATSI peoples AND/OR establish a Voice. It is BY establishing a Voice. The Voice and recognition are not simply linked. It is the one same thing in the referendum.
Many Australian voters are unaware they are voting on the things you’ve just written about. There. Fixed it for you.
In reality, Austrlians don’t know what they’re voting for. The government has not yet determined The Voice’s composition, functions, powers and procedures. The govt thinks it can present it as a lovely recognition only vote. But one thing we know about the electrorate is it is shy about writing blank cheques. One that can’t be later cancelled will have the electorate particularly concerned.
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..I throw out the entire “Voice” prposal as being a corruption of the democratc system that we depend on to govern our society.
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“..I throw out the entire “Voice” proposal as being a corruption of the democratic system that we depend on to govern our society.”
What Chad said. x 100.
“The Voice” is a corruption. It is deep-seated racism built into the constitution.
It is morally, ethically and humanly wrong at every level.
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throw out what every other proponent has to say
Even my leftwing brother reckons that there is not even one point that is not just airy fairy stuff lacking in actual logic of why it’s a good idea, in the 200 or so pages he read.
If such stuff would improve the life of any Australian in need, we should have had Emily Dickinson write the Constitution then we all would have been living in clover. As it is, although things can be better, we are one of the better countries because of sticklers for laws that can’t just mean anything you want them to mean wrote the Constitution.
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I have faith in the voters sufficient to differentiate them from people in authority and influential positions who are supporting the voice.
Without dismissing democracy and the right for people to vote as they see fit, I reserve the right to change my opinion if the referendum returns a Yes result. My lack of faith in those in authority and influential positions won’t change.
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The polls suggest that a significant % of potential voters either do not see the implications of this proposal, or they actually want the outcome that will result.
Very dissapointing !
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Yes, there will be a significant number who vote Yes.
I know there are many who don’t understand the implications and many who actually want the result with the implications.
It will be less than 50%.
The polls will overstate the Yes vote. The fear of being labelled a racist will have a portion of voters saying they’ll vote Yes when polled.
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The extraordinary element missing from the division of every society by race is gratitude.
I am so tired of thanking aboriginals for everything we have given them. And offended by the welcome to our own country when celebrating everything we have done.
Most Australians are descended from people who arrived with nothing at all. Just a desire for a better life. Not as oppressors in any way. And the generosity to aborigines has been non stop. And what aboriginals have done with it all is their responsibility, not ours. So is the blame.
But Mayo is blaming everyone else for everything wrong in aboriginal culture. There is a fundamental problem with introducing a paleolithic people to a modern world. Now he demands rent, reparations, rights beyond those of everyone else and above all, more money. And would aboriginals as a people be better off? No.
And around the world we see this attempt to disrupt democratic cultures by race. In the UK, throughout Europe, New Zealand, most of Africa. Just when these countries finally had governments which were blind to race.
I see it as planned disruption of Western democracies, just like Climate Change, massive unwelcome migration and the disruption of sport, films, theatre, literature, history and culture by extremists like LGBTIQ++++, reversing the real progress on women’s rights, children’s rights and even gay rights.
And “The Voice” is another attempt to split Australia down the middle as with New Zealand.
Just once I would like to hear an aboriginal group thank everyone for all the support over two centuries and a fair, equal society. The rest is up to them. We are all Australians and it should stay that way in the Constitution.
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And if I had a wish it is for all politicians to recognize that the failure to stop killer alcohol in aboriginal camps and towns is genocide. They have no resistance to alcohol. None.
You have a right to drink yourself to death, but it should be recognized as the biggest single problem destroying aboriginal lives and families and happiness.
We generally severely limit access to dangerous drugs including alcohol across all society but for some reason Labor and the Greens think it is some measure of freedom for aborigines, not the single most destructive thing they could do. This government removed the controls put in place by the previous government. And it caused total devastation until they were forced to put them back. So what’s going on?
If there is a cry from the heart, it is stop the alcohol. Recognize the biggest single problem. And what would changing the Constitution do? Absolutely nothing for aboriginals. It’s fake like the fake compassion which nearly wrecked Alice Springs. Ask Jacinta Price.
It is heart breaking and what does Canberra want to do? Change the Constitution? So what’s the real agenda?
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We are all human and share 99% or so of DNA characteristics. Alcohol is chemically no different to them as it is to us, it is rather a matter of individual responsibility [SNIP. We have no free speech in Australia.]
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It’s likely much higher than 99%. The differences are tiny. But alcohol is a poison for aborgines and not for others.
Human yes, but in the 50,000 years since the aborigines were isolated Darwinian selection has produced different characteristics such as white skin for survival in snow and black skin for survival in equatorial regions. Plus people are mobile especially in Europe where it is rare for two people to look the same. And you get rapid selection. Generally you can look at someone and pick the country of origin.
But Alcohol is new for aborigines. It came with fruit and then with stored grain about 10,000 years ago. But that’s long enough for adaption in the rest of the world as with resistance to many European viruses. Aboriginals never had fruit or crops. And they cannot digest it.
Ethanol is a very simple molecule, almost the cheapest and easiest chemical to manufacture, CH3CH2OH. Which is why it is poisoned commercially with methanol. Raw alcohol is strictly controlled in society. Even manufacturers need a licence. The wholesale destruction of families was well known in Europe, especially for the poor in Ireland. And the gin houses in London. The absinthe bars in Paris.
But alcohol is poisonous, devastating for aborigines. The stories are just horrendous.
However a mixed race in the Western suburbs of Sydney where most aboriginals live would have the survival characteristics but not the original natives in the bush. So it’s fine for the successful part aboriginal elites. But they are condemning others to a terrible existence. In the name of freedom? As I said, it is genocide now being legalized.
As Jacinta Price says, this is all about the Canberra Elites. We certainly had enough of ATSIC and Geoff Clarke who was 1/16th aborigine and a lifelong thug and ran ATSIC as his own private bank. I knew one ATSIC commissioner, a rich tall white lawyer. It was all a rort.
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“But Alcohol is new for aborigines.”
Another example may well be lactose intolerance. Europeans having used milk and cheese products for numberous generations have no issues (generally) with lactose. New world people had great difficulties adapting with at lease some Nth American Indians attacking settlers who had provided them with cheese to eat and then suffering the unpleasant consequences, thought they had been poisoned. Many oriental races have very low lactose tolerance as well. Nut intolerance may well be the reverse with Asians having a greater tolerance than western peoples.
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Intolerances are becoming far more common. One woman I employed was half Choctaw Indian and she had an extreme allergic reaction to European vegetables, especially onions. Even the smell in the street from a restaurant could cause her throat to close over. And Europeans to American Indian vegetables. What is delicious to one can be fatal to the other.
Peanuts for example, from South America. And chilli can be a disaster.
Alcohol is a drug which has become endemic in most societies as it is largely natural where there are fruit trees in symbiosis with monkeys. And I found this video on drunk elephants who cannot metabolize alcohol.
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” Many oriental races have very low lactose tolerance as well.”
..and alcohol. An inefficient alcohol dehydrogenase means they have alcohol sensitivity, get drunk & suffer terrible hangovers.
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Not sure if it’s “intolerance” or just familiarity.
My wife loved garlic while I liked to be at least twenty feet away when someone was eating it.
She hated onions in the same way, never having grown up with them in her youth.
I love onions, they were always around when I was young. Raw or cooked.
But, we never let onions or garlic come between us :-).
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Alcohol is converted to acetaldehyde by alcohol dehydrogenase (ALD), and further metabolized to acetate by acetaldehyde dehydrogenase (ALDH). The genetic basis for the “Oriental” alcohol intolerance (flushing and nausea) is a less efficient variant of ALDH which causes acetaldehyde to build up.
One would think that flushing and nausea would cause decreased intake of alcohol, ie, protective for alcoholism. However there is evidence that much of the reinforcing (read positive mood effects) are mediated by acetaldehyde (See a number of papers by Zalman Amit from the 1990’s). This is supported by the fact that the risk for alcoholism in Japan is higher for the Oriental ALDH version. North American natives are another example of a population that has a high frequency of this gene and a tendency for alcohol problems.
One of the important findings in research into reinforcement is that positive effects of actions control behaviour even when there are associated negative effects. The earliest example is Pavlov’s dogs. Despite the signal indicating they would be shocked, if it the shock signalled food, they would salivate.
The principle of positive reinforcement controlling behaviour extends to other addictions. Some users of opiates experience strong nausea on injection, but they continue nevertheless. Also, if drug taking was to avoid withdrawal, it would be possible to “dry” out an addict and permanently cure him. Instead, the first thing he does is try to score.
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Thanks Fran. Interesting answer.
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Incorrect Adellad, a single base change can alter enzyme function (efficacy) or expression (degree) profoundly. So we can be almost completely identical but have population wide differences with little change at all.
Here is a long read https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alcohol_dehydrogenase
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Some of our “inheritance” has no connection to DNA.
An example is that we receive the appropriate insulin capacity for the environment we are coming into, and who better to give us that “setting” than our own mother who is living in that environment.
I was taught this concept more than twenty years ago but it may now have a “scientific” name for the process. Does anybody know what “epigenetics” is about?
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If the aborinals get most of Oz back, then that benefits the big agenda by displacing(!!) white folk into gulag mega cities where our benevolent benefactors surveil us 24/7 and feed us yummy insects to protect us, ‘cos they care…
Stalag Luft Victoria – has a nice ring to it…
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This gets past the moderators? Gulag mega cities? Is it meant to be funny?
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That’s hillariarious.
Apologies for the Americanisation, but I’m sure Bill wouldn’t mind.
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Search, ‘the Voice Australia’ … you get the TV talent show.
We are not in Kansas anymore.
Damn … these people are seriously pro at obfuscation via deceptive labeling.
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I saw a t-shirt the other day that read:
Government. 1 star. Would not recommend.
Says it all.😉
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Has anyone watched the new propaganda series:
The First Inventors.
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Tried to DM. Only got to the point where enlarging wet lands and billabongs to enable better hunting became “aquaculture”. It appears the main species exploited was the short finned eel, which requires a return to salt water to breed so no “husbandry” was applied to the system just harvesting. By my definition this is not aquaculture.
Turned it off at that point.
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Was that Indigenous Australian from the UK Bruce Pascoe involved?
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Ancient mysteries …
“Who invented the boomerang?
By Len Fisher
The history of the boomerang is difficult to determine and our understanding relies heavily on what these weapons were made fro
It’s hard to tell, because wooden boomerangs, such as those used by Australian aborigines, don’t last forever and don’t leave long-term traces. An ivory boomerang with gold tips was found in the tomb of Tutankhamun, together with a picture showing it was used to kill birds, but the record goes to a 23,000-year-old boomerang made from a mammoth tusk, and that one was found in Poland.
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And post-modernist history says Aborigines invented the aerofoil and therefore the first aircraft.
I am quite certain they weren’t solving the Navier-Stokes equations.
And I think Tutankhamun’s tomb had four boomerangs in it.
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They didn’t invent the F-35 Lightning?
sarc.
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No no, that was Joe Biden, silly. He was also a truck driver, an astronaut and he walked with ML King across the Edmond Pettus Bridge in 1963. Didn’t you know that?
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DM
Re “I am quite certain they weren’t solving the Navier-Stokes equations.”
I’d take some convincing that the likes of Lawrence Hargraves and the Wright Brothers were too concerned either
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“Who invented the boomerang?”
That’s a question that keeps coming back…
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🙂
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Now now DM.
They obviously had a solid grasp of physics, aerodynamics and gyroscopic precession to create the boomerang.
No just lobbing a stick into the sky there.😁
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Why would anyone want to watch propaganda willingly?
I live in Australia, not Nth Korea… although lately….mmmmm.
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I’ve seen the promos for it…that was enough to convince me I don’t need to watch it.
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Well, you can all watch the next series of “The hunt” in which complete idiots seek to elude proclaimed “experts” tasked with hunting them down.
I came close to throwing a brick at the tv in the first series as the hunted were so utterly stupid and ignorant from the first minute.
What didn’t they do wrong.
The hunters ONLY succeeded because the hunted had ZERO understanding of surveillance & counter-surveillance or the ability to actually think.
I would have disappeared in the first 30 minutes.
Mind you, that’d make a very boring show.
Bricks on standby.
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Hey Second coming if you haven’t already have a read of Ion Idriess’ book “Over the Range”. He describes how he went on a 3 month patrol with police from Broome looking for alleged murderers. Aboriginal men who had killed other aboriginal men for real or imagined indiscretions. The patrol was of some size with police, trackers and observers, all on horse back. They managed to apprehend all of the people they were looking for, in tribal country that the locals had lived all their lives in.
How did they do this? Well while Idriess is essesentially a novelist, his books relate his own experiences and observations of living many years in the outback. Missing in his works are any sort of political agenda, simply “this is what I have observed.”.
He comments about aboriginal loyalty to group, unless there is “other” advantage and no particular regard for opposition groups. Sort of a 1930’s version of how “First Nations”will not be able to cooperate with each other let alone the modern Australia.
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The first thing I learned from the web page is that another 5,000 years have passed since I last learned that the Aboriginals have been around for 60,000 years.
Time flies when you’re having fun. I arrived in Brisbane 34 years & 2 days ago.
That was when I learned that the Aboriginals had.been here for 30,000 years.
Somebody is telling a lot of big, dream time, porkies!!!
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I have been watching something way more important. The cricket. But I did notice that according to the program, instead of 60 K years the aboriginals (I’m not using that crazy term – first nations) have been here 65 K years. So they’ve added an extra 5 K.
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Must be inflation!
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The Voice Architect, Video presentation …
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=655mzGRmkZw
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FWIW – More “Voice”
“In their own words – the simple truth behind Albanese’s Vanity Voice”
https://www.michaelsmithnews.com/2023/06/in-their-own-words-the-simple-truth-behind-albaneses-vanity-voice.html
“Professional, hard-hitting & unforgettable video on The Architect Behind The Voice”
https://www.michaelsmithnews.com/2023/06/professional-hard-hitting-unforgettable-video-on-the-architect-behind-the-voice.html
“Great research from Seeker of Truth on The Voice architect Thomas Mayo & his communist roots.”
https://www.michaelsmithnews.com/2023/06/great-research-from-seeker-of-truth-on-the-voice-architect-thomas-mayo-his-communist-roots.html
Bumped – I posted a couple of items on “Monday” thread and this one is more suited to “Tuesday” IMO
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Dr Suneel Dhand looks at an 11% increase in deaths of 15-19 yr old in UK in 2021 and 2022 compared to previous years.
What could it be?
https://youtu.be/_EmIt50Fhxo
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AI now overriding decisions made by human care nurses at hospitals
Actual human beings are getting phased out of health care in exchange for artificial intelligence (AI) robots that are now reportedly overruling nurses at hospitals.
The life-or-death decisions that have long been made by real people at health care facilities are now being made by computers that have been programmed with who-knows-what to do God-only-knows to patients.
One oncology nurse by the name of Melissa Beebe who relies on her observational skills to help patients in need of emergency care spoke with The Wall Street Journal about the changes she is seeing in the way care is administered due to the AI infiltration.
“I’ve been working with cancer patients for 15 years so I know a septic patient when I see one,” Beebe said about an alert she recently received in the oncology unit at UC Davis Medical Center in California that she knew was wrong. “I knew this patient wasn’t septic.”
The alert Beebe received had been created by AI based on an elevated white blood cell count it observed in said patient, which it correlated with a septic infection. What the AI system failed to recognize is that the patient in question also had leukemia, which can also cause similar elevated white blood cell counts.
“The algorithm, which was based on artificial intelligence, triggers the alert when it detects patterns that match previous patients with sepsis,” the Journal reported.
http://www.yourdestinationnow.com/2023/06/ai-now-overriding-decisions-made-by.html
Fake AI will be the death of how many when this nonsense rolls out?
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Food, drug shortage crisis rages on: Numerous pharmaceuticals to run out before end of 2023
The “experts” promised us this would never be a problem, but the lingering effects of the Wuhan coronavirus (Covid-19) “pandemic” – or so we are being told – have created a persistent shortage of food and pharmaceutical drugs across the United States.
CNN published a piece recently stating that we are currently in “the worst food crisis in modern history” while common drugs like antibiotics and specifically penicillin are slated to run out entirely, in some cases, before the end of 2023 – just a few short months away.
Pfizer announced that several kinds of penicillin, used to treat syphilis, strep throat, and other infections, will no longer be available after the third quarter of this year, which ends on September 30.
“The company anticipates running out of the children’s dose of the syphilis drug Bicillin L-A by the end of June, according to a letter Pfizer posted Tuesday on the Food and Drug Administration’s website,” reports explain.
Then we have the cocoa crisis with global cocoa supplies being extremely tight. Prices have already soared 44 percent over the last nine months to reach seven-year highs.
“The cocoa market has experienced a remarkable surge in prices,” said S&P Global Commodity Insights’ Principal Research Analyst Sergey Chetvertakov. “This season marks the second consecutive deficit, with cocoa ending stocks expected to dwindle to unusually low levels.”
There are also supply issues with both sugar and coffee as sugar and coffee prices hit decade highs and record highs, respectively, in recent days. Food banks are also seeing “the biggest food shortage in 40 years,” to quote Frank Sheppard, CEO of Feeding the Valley Food Bank.
http://www.stationgossip.com/2023/06/food-drug-shortage-crisis-rages-on.html
Natural health cures are more effective, cheaper, have virtually no side effects AND the industry makes WAY more money than pharmaceuticals do, which is why big pharma is constantly trying to shut them down.
Better start stocking up ppl.
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” running out of the children’s dose of the syphilis drug Bicillin L-A”
Dunno why, how big is the market for kids with syphilis?? Maybe all the LGBt trans crap…
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There is a place for natural medicine, but not for syphilis, strep and various pneumonias. In the 1950’s the basic antibiotics became available in India, all of a sudden babies and children started surviving and the mothers came to the clinic asking about ways to space babies.
From the drugs mentioned, they are all out of patent and not profitable. It is time that the basics were made in the country rather than outsourced to other countries.
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Canada-Breaking down every letter in 2SLGBTQQIPAA+ | CBC Kids News
https://youtu.be/4Fn5sKfy-vU
So why do gender reassignment surgeries only have TWO choices – male or female?
How can surgery alter a psychological condition (gender)?
Why are “ambivalent pink unicorn” or “squirrel without nuts” not an option?
Ha! Got ya. 😆
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Apparently when Joe Biden said God Save The Queen, man, he had sighted a rainbow gay pride flag.
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Explaining the ‘birds and bees’ to kids has become more difficult nowadays
You have to be able to explain the birds and the bees, the bees and the bees, the birds and the birds, the birds that used to be bees, the bees that used to be birds, the birds that look like bees, and the bees that look like birds but still have a stinger! 😁
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And people wonder why NZ’s govt is housed in a building called ‘the Beehive’. Never visited it myself and don’t plan to.
A 14-year-old girl ‘transitioning to a boy’ has caused her (male, Christian) maths teacher to resign – as well as be struck-off by the Education Board – as he wouldn’t call her/him/it by its ‘preferred pronoun’. Year Zero has arrived… again. Or was it Mao’s Giant Leap Backwards.
Fourteen ffs.
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Coming late to the party, but if Betelgeuse is now fusing Carbon to heavier elements, then we have proof that this element is so destructive that it causes suns to explode.
I for one, am very happy that the government is trying to save us from such a destructive and dangerous thing…
(do I really need to say that this is joke?)
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I wonder what the Greens think about ‘forest gardening’?
https://www.vicforests.com.au/publications-media/latest-news/we-are-forest-people
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Should we mention the incongruity of using “Greens” and “think” in the same sentence. 😉
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In my area the forest produced high quality saw logs, ash, mess mate, wooly butt, etc. yet a local zealot was convinced that this timber was solely used in paper production.
Nothing could convince him otherwise. He had no idea where the timber for any use came from. In his words “probably Tassie” He simply could not understand that Vic ash was timber from the local forests. Tassie Oak, same timber, came from Tassie.
He is delighted responsible timber harvesting has been stopped. He also complains bitterly about the cost of living yet cannot join the dots.
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I caught some of a show called Coyote Crazy Smart Science show on NITV. It’s a show from Canada.
They put egg shells in lemon juice, vinegar and a cola drink. The egg shells bleached a little and we’re more brittle in the lemon juice. They pretty much disintegrated in the vinegar, and the cola only affected the shells a little, according to them. It appeared not to be affected at all.
I though that they were blowing up the myth that cola drinks eat away your teeth and stomach because they are acidic, but no. They went on to talk about how ocean acidification will destroy the shells of animals in the sea. So much for nobody will misrepresent ocean acidification as making the seas acidic. Burning all the coal in the world would not be enough to to drop the pH of the oceans to the cola levels that appeared to do bugger all, squared, to the egg shell. Not even below 7.
This “science” show pretty much teaches kids to ignore the experimental results and cling to your religious beliefs.
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ph of vinegar 2-3 (acidic)
pH of lemon juice about 2 (acidic)
pH of cola 2.6-2.7 (acidic)
pH of sea water 8.1 (i.e.alkaline)
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Exactly. And 8.1 is the pH of drinking water as delivered by concrete pipes. Fresh water. And somehow this is acid? Or ‘acidifying’? There is no problem.
As it is a logarithmic scale, the difference between pH of 8.1 and Vinegar is 8.1-2.3 or 10^6. 1,000,000 times the concentration of H+. The ocean cannot even pass 7.0 at which point it technically becomes acid but that’s not going to happen.
‘Acidification’ is such deliberate deceit and blatant sophistry that the role of the science teacher is to point it out. Unless they have no idea about Ph, acids and alkali or logarithms. In which case they should not be teaching science.
And the fact that Australia’s publicly funded National science group CSIRO ran an international conference in Hobart on Ocean Acidification shows how it’s all about the money.
Sell the ABC, SBS, CSIRO, BOM and close the Chief Scientist department. And if you get nothing for them, that’s what they are worth but they cost about $60 million a week of taxpayer money. They should be in the front line of debunking this nonsense, not profiteering from it.
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What they have demonstrated is the reverse of what they think. Before you could make the oceans acid first you would have to dissolve all the shells.
Common limestone is also calcium carbonate, made from shells. And it is in huge abundance on the ocean floor. The Nullabor Plain is Limestone. The cost in South Australia, the Limestone coast. The White Cliffs of Dover. The whole city of Odessa on a limestone plateau and even Westminster Abbey, marble but this is metamorphic limestone. Plus the Great Barrier reef.
So for the ocean to go acidic, all this would have to go first. It’s called a buffered solution.
And the oceans are massively buffered by billions of years of generating shells, all of which are just sitting there.
It would be nice if science teachers knew their science. And taught buffered equilibrium. Like Carbon Dioxide which has an equilibrium between the 98% in the ocean and the thin air above. At no time have humans demonstrated that we can actually change the amount of CO2 in the air, which ignores our forest fires and world wars and shutdowns as if we don’t exist. Because we are utterly irrelevant to the equilibrium.
And all the CO2 we output is just sucked up in the vast exchange which goes on every second of every day so that half of all CO2 in the air is replaced every five years. Al Gore is a billionaire. Tim Flannery is not. But both are innumerate and made their fame from a lie.
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The other obvious aspect is that as everyone agrees 98% of free CO2 is dissolved in the ocean, the last 2% would make no difference. But it is part of the appeal to the modern delusion of grandeur that we humans control the planet and our tiny CO2 is significant and therefore we humans can even change the pH of the oceans.
These alleged science people need to be a bit more humble about their science of the domination of mankind over the oceans. The oceans have 350x the mass of the thin atmosphere and 4x the heat capacity. They completely control our world. All water is from the ocean. All air is from the ocean. All the heat is in the ocean. And it is largely ignored in our all powerful climate models despite covering 72% of the planet, 75% if you count Antarctica which is an iceblock 3.5Km high and the size of South America.
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The other obvious aspect is that as everyone agrees 98% of free CO2 is dissolved in the ocean, the last 2% would make no difference. Change the pH of the oceans? How?
But it is part of the appeal to the modern delusion of grandeur that we humans control the planet and our tiny CO2 is significant and therefore we humans can even change the pH of the oceans.
These alleged science people need to be a bit more humble about their science of the domination of mankind over the oceans. The oceans have 350x the mass of the thin atmosphere and 4x the heat capacity. They completely control our world. All water is from the ocean. All air is from the ocean. All the heat is in the ocean. And it is largely ignored in our all powerful climate models despite covering 72% of the planet, 75% if you count Antarctica which is an iceblock 3.5Km high and the size of South America.
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Globul Warming – reviewed in Five Fits.
Fit One: whereas there are many missing outcomes such as melting ice,
dangerously rising seas and the IPCC signature missing hot spot, (Ref.
Dr David Evans)
Fit Two, those flawed models … Whereas climate models are
the crystal ball of cli-sci, they fail bigly to match real-world
observations…
et-ceter-ah http://beththeserf.wordpress.com/2019/05/17/special-edition-global-warming/
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I have never been there, but methought the White Cliffs of Dover were calcium sulphate, not carbonate. Chalk or gypsum.
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Limestone. Calcium Carbonate. Made from CO2.
Sulphates are rare. These deposits are from the shells of invertebrates. We humans as well have bones made from calcium and which is are 1.5% of our weight.
The bulk of our weight as carbon lifeforms made from CO2 is oxygen 65%, carbon 18.5% and hydrogen 10% or 93.5% by weight. But that’s because hydrogen is so light, 1/18th of oxygen in weight the atomic ratios are 24,12,62 or 98%. That’s 98% CO2 with 5 hydrogens over. You can see that humans are a blend of H2O and CO2. Roughly HC (Hydrocarbon) + H2O. It’s why we burn like wood.
And somehow we are being told CO2 is toxic pollution. Which means humans and all live on earth is toxic pollution. That would require a redefinition of toxic if life is toxic.
There are almost no lifeforms based on sulphur. In humans it is 0.3% by weight and 1 atom in 4,000.
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And I expect calcium sulfate is associated with volcanic activity, like geysers. Calcium carbonate made from CO2 is a sign of life and CO2 sourced from the atmosphere or the ocean. But sulfur is relatively uncommon. You could however propose a living world based on sulfur and not carbon (dioxide) but it didn’t happen.
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Chalk is calcium carbonate. Chalk used for blackboards is the softer calcium sulfate (I was taught to use the f word).
Calcium sulphate comes from water with high levels dissolved calcium and sulfate drying out. Carbonate blows off as CO2 coming off the acidic water, leaving just sulfate as the anion. Hence, only small deposits.
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Australian Government to ban payment by cheque.
No doubt the real reason is to further digitalise the financial system to further enable everyone to be traced and tracked 24/7.
https://www.sbs.com.au/news/article/the-death-of-the-cheque-book-australia-to-phase-out-cheques/qu0e4xf55
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Might have to look closer at alternative means.
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Barter.
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DM,
Silly me thought a cheque book/account was a private contract between my bank and me, nothing to do with governments.
Those who have not already studied the concept of Property Rights should do so, then resist this widespread govt belief that governments own everything because of quasi-religious concepts like eminent domain.
Another example is Victorian govt telling people what they can and cannot do with trees. Like banning forestry. Trees have always belonged to the people, not governments. Read up on the classic case of Tragedy of the Commons. Geoff S
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Some rare good news.
From Canada, school students protest because they are sick of the LGBT agenda being shoved down their throats plus they get in trouble for stating the scientific fact that there ARE ONLY TWO GENDERS.
https://youtu.be/T0ctCZCzcck
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And I am reading that Gays are getting really angry that they are being treated as an oddity as the really rare weird people clamour for attention. Similarly feminists who fought for equality and are now being told to put up with men dressed as women being legal women.
The successes of the 20th century are being destroyed by extreme males who demand its all about them, from drag queens to men impersonating Audrey Hepburn. Even Germaine Greer is not welcome at universities simply because she said chopping your d*ck off doesn’t make you a woman. And most of them do not even do that. And 6’4″ male swimmer Lia Thomas not able to win in the men’s events beats all the women and parades around the women’s change room making a point of it. That’s sick.
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QUESTION 1
Why are we holding a standalone referendum in October 2023 at a cost of half a billion dollars when it could be held in conjunction with the general election due in the following six months – by May 2024 – at minimal cost?
QUESTION 2
Why has NO member of parliament – Liberal, Labor, Nationals, Greens, PHON or anyone else raised this rather pertinent and expensive point?
QUESTION 3
Why was it so important to include the term “executive government” in the referendum question that a proposed amendment deleting the term was howled down by virtually the entire senate?
The answers to those three questions explain how we will “legally” become a dictatorship by the end of next year – 2024, and who was responsible.
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1. In general this is not done because
a) the date is not predictable. It is actually unconstitutional to constrain the election date apart from the full term date (you angrily made this point recently), see section 28, so the referendum date cant set the election date. The election could be used to set the referendum so long as legislation is passed and at least 2 month have elapsed. Kind of not a real world senario.
b) An election and a referendum debate happening at the same time is confounding.
2. See 1. They are not as dumb as you think
3. A good question. It differentiates itself from just plain old lobbying to members and senators. It means that ministers listen to the voice.
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It’s all to the tune of the UN/CCP/EU. Divide Western Democracies by race. And get them to vote to remove their own government and constitution. Compassion is the real weakness of Christians. And it can be used to destroy them.
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Good answer TdeF but sorry, wrong.
Perhaps readers would like to phone their local members tomorrow and ask them question 1. The answers would be interesting when reported back here and compared.
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well I answered it earlier. You’ll see it some time.
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Is this the same government spending now over $20Bn on Snowy II? It was supposed to be under $2Bn and finished by now. They do not care about the cost of anything. It’s not their money. What’s half a billion?
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They’re not worried about the 280 billion on Snowy 2 for the same reason they’re not worried about billions on subs or billions on social housing or anything else like that. Because it’s not going to happen. None of it.
But the transfer of constitutional power from the people to the executive MUST happen before the next federal election. So they will spend whatever it takes of YOUR money to ensure it does.
Society as we know it ends August / September 2025. Everything else happening in the meantime is merely preparation, prelude or distraction.
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The modern political world runs on polling, which is often wrong. And in this case especially wrong because people say one thing and do another in a secret ballot. And in a country created by mass migration over 200 years where 40% of adults are still from overseas, no one wants to change the system because it works. And the places from which they came do not work.
And the polling is showing a narrow loss a long way ahead of the vote. It can only get worse for Alabanese.
He is gambling on the youth vote and young aspirational people want to have meaning in their life and are very generous with other people’s money because that is all they know how to do. His only hope is to lower the voting age to ten.
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“Good answer TdeF but sorry, wrong.”
Maybe this is more on target;
“Good answer TdeF, and there’s more”
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I also dispute the cost argument. The AEC running two elections at once over the whole of Australia requires a much different set up to a normal election and a big new workforce for supervising implementation and counting. Further is that they wont want a ballot paper with numbers sitting alongside one where you write No or Yes.
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“It’s all to the tune of the UN/CCP/EU. Divide Western Democracies by race.”
Dang Tdef, I was about to say the same thing, except less succinctly.
It’s Upside Down World now.
We can tell just by political brand names.
As per your statement, nowadays giving ‘voice’ to the marginalized requires the silencing of the marginalizers.*
After all, opposition to ‘The Voice’ is ‘hate’ and ‘misinformation’.
(Which government cannot allow to be voiced).
Searching the proposed referendum, I found it suspiciously vague.
Just like when my POTUS waxes eloquently (see what I did there 🙂 ) about “Our Democracy”, he doesn’t mean me.
I am excluded from inclusion.
*(Saw a neighbor wearing a T-shirt saying “Black Women Vote”, I would say ‘good’. Only problem is, were I to don a T-shit saying “White Men Vote”, I might be arrested for provoking a marginalized person to assault me. )
Good luck to us all, we’re going to need it.
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Funny, getting netted by the mod seems like proof to my point.
Yeah, we’re going to need it.
It feels a little more unsafe everyday to have a contrary opinion.
‘Voice’ … harr.
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At least we wont be troubled by news from Alice Springs or Wadeye between now and the referendum. Everything must appear rosey and harmonious in the run up.
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Every local Council could send it out with the rates demand, tally the results as people mail it back in and send totals to the Govt.
The Tax Dept could put it on your tax papers to be filled in next year… There’s a lot of ways the Govt touches us.
Is filling it in compulsory for Australian citizens, like voting?
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If The Voice goes through the moment that it is enacted Australia will cease to be a Common Law nation.
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Video, less than 3 mins.
US Congressman Dan Crenshaw grills a doctor who is a transgenderism promoter.
She can cite no evidence supporting transgender procedures.
https://youtu.be/0JG87k8AWwQ
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SAM isn’t positive because of ozone depletion.
‘Here we present a stratigraphic record from Lago Cipreses (51°S), southwestern Patagonia, that reveals recurrent ~200-year long dry/warm phases over the last three millennia, which we interpret as positive SAM-like states.
‘These correspond in timing with the Industrial revolution, the Mediaeval Climate Anomaly, the Roman and Late Bronze Age Warm Periods and alternate with cold/wet multi-centennial phases in European palaeoclimate records.
‘We conclude that SAM-like changes at centennial timescales in southwestern Patagonia represent in-phase interhemispheric coupling of palaeoclimate over the last 3,000 years through atmospheric teleconnections.’ (Moreno et al 2014)
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Curious – are “first nations” or original inhabitants specifically mentioned or recognised in the constitutions of any other nation?
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Some reading for around the “Voice” –
“Empires and colonialism are considered reactionary forces—that’s what you might hear in all the “decolonization” nonsense at Anglosphere universities. This, of course, is the gravest and most insidious myth that is perpetuated in international relations.
The reality is that empires have always been a progressive force throughout history. Empires brought modernity to continents. Empires were often multicultural, ordered under an imperial elite. Empires charted sea routes. Empires went to the poles, discovered island chains, and expanded frontiers. Empires explored and conquered. Anthropology, evolutionary biology, and archaeology had their heydays as academic disciplines under empires.”
More at
https://www.theamericanconservative.com/imperial-progress-at-the-smithsonian/
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Well, looks like we were all wrong..
“”We do not support the independence of Taiwan,” – US Secretary of State Blinken during the talks in Beijing”
https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/xi-blinken-hold-high-stakes-meeting-effort-stabilize-us-china-relations
Although if you REALLY want to hear someone talk incomprehensibly out both sides of their mouth at once, you just can’t beat the Irish!
” chairwoman Pauline O’Reilly called for “restricting freedom” to protect it. .. The legislation that would criminalize “incitement to violence or hatred against” people with “protected characteristics,” as well as “condoning, denying or grossly trivialising genocide, war crimes, crimes against humanity and crimes against peace.”
https://www.freedomsphoenix.com/News/345588-2023-06-19-we-are-restricting-freedom-for-the-common-good.htm
Protected characteristics…?? Anyone except a normal white male I am sure!
Crimes against peace.. eh? I figure they are aiming to make it illegal to say anything supporting Russia, shortly followed by widespread internet censorship.
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“Evil messenger RNA being pushed hard for livestock”
Rumble link at
https://thenewamerican.com/evil-messenger-rna-being-pushed-hard-for-livestock/
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UK to introduce voluntary rationing next winter.
https://notalotofpeopleknowthat.wordpress.com/2023/06/18/grid-asks-factories-to-use-less-energy-next-winter-under-blackout-prevention-plan/
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FYI – more “Voice”
“The Voice to Parliament Handbook with Thomas Mayo and Kerry O’Brien
Join First Nations leader Thomas Mayo and acclaimed journalist Kerry O’Brien to launch The Voice to Parliament Handbook as part of their national tour. ”
Via State Library of Qld
https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=pfbid0oWmeFgSqh7GLiKy9PhFwNtbzwtAEr4inuPkZ4MbL5URo2cnazDwA1WjS6LChUoxfl&id=100064568204687&mibextid=qC1gEa
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A different voice –
“Oh Gawd, Wiki Has Gone Pronoun Crazy / Blind”
https://chiefio.wordpress.com/2023/06/20/oh-gawd-wiki-has-gone-pronoun-crazy-blind/
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Trigger Warning!!! — Lotus Eater poms being totally politically incorrectly irreverent about WA’s new Aboriginal Heritage laws. It’s almost too much. You cant say that!!!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5-DnrITIySU&t=197s
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Peter Ridd with an excellent take on The Great Barrier Reef’s non destruction by agricultural run off. Great gifs of the GBR’s ocean currents, which constantly pump in 100X the nutrients, that rivers bring down occasionally.(when in flood) The constant tumbling by waves, of the inner reef’s shallow bottom, creates another 100X the agricultural nutrients.
But really it’s just another arrow shot into western agriculture, to help bring down western civilisation.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L0drdlXac7A&t=22s
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So, if one disagrees with the premise that the foundation of one’s nation is fundamentally r@cist, and therefore requires fundamental deconstruction ….
then one is by default a r@cist.
Is this not true across the Western ‘democratic’ nations?
I would like to shown the error in my observation.
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The Left have so overuse the term “racist” that they have now rendered it essentially meaningless.
The facts are that European nations brought civilisation to much of the world and supplanted existing primitive societies living lives equivalent to Europeans many thousands or tens of thousands of years prior.
If one considers advancing the human condition to be a moral imperative, then there was nothing wrong with what Europeans did, especially the British who of all Europeans conducted the most peaceful colonisations, usually with strict instructions not to harm the natives. That is not to say there were never injustices, of course, especially by non-British colonisers.
The speed with which native populations adopted the ways and technology of Europeans demonstrates that they saw it as a superior civilisation as well. They immediately replaced their stone axes with steel ones from Europeans, for one simple example.
The myth of the Noble Savage is just thst. Being a native in places settled by Europeans was no utopia. Life was harsh, horrible and cruel and native tribes were in endless wars with their neighbours. That can’t have been a good thing.
Now the Left are trying to revert us to the conditions of the Stone Age, just how European colonisers found native societies 300-500 years ago. Not even the natives want that.
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Nicely put.
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Despite the fact that the Left keep expressing their hatred toward the racial and ethnic minority, white Europeans, and blaming them for slavery, it was white Europeans who led the world in abolishing the practice, against opposition from the rest of the world.
You never hear the Left complain about slavery in the Mohammedan world, which exists until this day and was far more extensive than in Western nations, and who also enslaved 1-2 million Europeans and 12-15 million Africans vs 600,000 African slaves sent to the US (See my post from yesterday).
The following excellent video is by Dr Thomas Sowell, himself a black conservative a group especially hated by the Left.
How the West destroyed slavery.
https://youtu.be/UJV6Thtsr8U
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Video about real life Bond Super Villan, Klaus Schwab. What does he believe?
https://youtu.be/Z5TxtJ0Dbsg
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Well, la de da …
US funded Wuhan lab scientist CONFIRMED (caps from YouTube) as patient zero.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LjXuKDZ4mQc
from The Hill Rising
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Nietzsche as summarised by Douglas Murray. It seems like a good description of the Left.
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Re fires in California
“Y2Kyoto: Down In Flames”
http://www.smalldeadanimals.com/2023/06/20/y2kyoto-down-in-flames/
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“Connect the dots”
“Further to yesterday’s post about Dr. Peter Hotez, David Rubin really hit it out of the park with this episode of his show. He connects the dots over the past 3+ years. You’ll learn lots of solid information to share with all you call you a conspiracy theorist.”
Link at https://youtu.be/1A7emkyYX68
Via http://www.smalldeadanimals.com/2023/06/20/connecting-the-dots/
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FWIW
“The incompetent society: lessons from South Africa”
https://bayourenaissanceman.blogspot.com/2023/06/the-incompetent-society-lessons-from.html
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Marine heatwave unprecedented.
‘The Met Office said global sea surface temperatures in April and May reached an all-time high for those months, according to records dating to 1850, with June also on course to hit record heat levels.
‘The US National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration has categorised parts of the North Sea as being in a category four marine heatwave, which is considered “extreme”, with areas off the coast of England up to 5C above what is usual.’ (Guardian)
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‘Incredibly Deadly’: E-Bike Blaze Kills Four Amid Surge Of Lethal Battery Fires In New York City
“A number of lithium-ion batteries caught fire early Tuesday morning, killing four and leaving two in critical condition, the latest in a series of deadly blazes in New York City, according to the New York City Fire Department (FDNY).”
https://dailycaller.com/2023/06/20/e-bike-blaze-kills-four-lethal-batteries-nyc/
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Labor grilled for ‘ten hours straight’ in parliament on the Voice but gave ‘no detail’
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