By Jo Nova
Ironies don’t get better than this: Thanks to the renewable energy transition, Europe can’t afford to make renewable energy.
When will the message get through that renewable energy is not sustainable?
European photovoltaic plants and battery cell factors are temporarily closing or quitting altogether because of obscenely high electricity prices. When the plants were built they expected to pay €50/MWh, but now they are €300 – 400/MWh. And the situation may last another couple of years, so it’s hard to see how these manufacturers can avoid leaving permanently.
So much for all the solar jobs. Europeans are being reduced to being installers while the production of panels shifts to coal fired China because electricity is so much cheaper. Most of the wind turbine industry has already moved to China.
European solar PV manufacturing at risk from soaring power prices – Rystad
Jules Scully, PV Tech
Around 35GW of PV manufacturing projects in Europe are at risk of being mothballed as elevated power prices damage the continent’s efforts to build a solar supply chain, research from Rystad Energy suggests.
The consultancy noted that the energy-intensive nature of both solar PV and battery cell manufacturing processes is leading some operators to temporarily close or abandon production facilities as the cost of doing business escalates.
It’s not the only thing in jeopardy:
“Building a reliable domestic low-carbon supply chain is essential if the continent is going to stick to its goals, including the REPowerEU plan, but as things stand, that is in serious jeopardy,” [said Audun Martinsen, Rystad Energy’s head of energy service research].
Tell us what “affordable means:
The consultancy revealed that while power prices in Europe have retreated significantly since record highs in August, rates remain in the €300 – 400/MWh (US$297 – 396/MWh) range, many multiples above pre-energy crisis norms.
While Europeans have benefitted from reliable and affordable electricity, the research suggested that low-carbon manufacturers have based their build-up of production capacity on stable power prices of around €50/MWh.
And the country with the most fossil fuels wins:
The high costs of European PV manufacturing were revealed in a recent report from the International Energy Agency (IEA), which found China is the most cost-competitive location to manufacture all components of the solar PV supply chain, with costs in the country 35% lower than in Europe.
Photo: August 24, 2017 – Submodule Packout (Ohio) (Photo by Dennis Schroeder / NREL) U.S. Department of Energy
This is by design! It cannot be a surprise to anyone not pushing an agenda. China is now positioned to dominate production of solar and wind equipment. Once they own the industry prices will go up. And the world will transition back to fossil fuels but not before those pushing green have become very, very wealthy.
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As far as I am aware china already makes 85% of global solar panels. You would find it very difficult to find a European made solar panel as they are already too expensive for the mass markets of solar farms and domestic installation
The way the rare earths are mined and processed also contravenes the eu strict rules so that reduces the number of suppliers and pushes up prices. China has no such scruples and greens, desperate for solar panels, seem unconcerned that china mines rare earths using child labour and assembles panels using Uighur coerced labour
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The US Congress overwhelmingly adopted the Uyghur Forced Labor Prevention Act ‘with strong bipartisan support, passing the House 428–1 and adopted in the Senate by unanimous consent.’
No doubt other countries will go down that path and presumably solar panels may become more expensive when Beijing is forced to give up semi-slavery.
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The greens want solar panels and want them as cheap as possible so either that will push up prices of installations or the act will be conveniently sidelined
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China will be forced give up slavery??
How will that be achieved? Thru sanctions & boycotts??
The whole of the west is already dependant on China for more than is healthy for the
Western economies. So suck it up western world! It was your choice😵💫😵💫😵💫!
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Beijing hates losing face on the world stage, so I imagine they will clean up their act and pay their workers a living wage. Naturally this will force up prices, but as they have already cornered the market the buyers have to absorb that.
China is Australia’s biggest trading partner and the western economies are in decline, best to stay with the strength.
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China will lie and the west will buy the lies….
In what area of the relationship between China and the west has this not been the case?
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In your dreams.
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Pick out the lies in Beijing’s rebuttal.
http://global.chinadaily.com.cn/a/202206/23/WS62b3bf3ea310fd2b29e6805c.html
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You’re joking, right?
Clean up their act?
Maybe paint it green too.
What they will do is lie, cheat, fake products and arrest anyone they see fit to.
THAT is how China operates.
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The US lies like a ig in mud.
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… pig in mud.
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A well targeted shot in the own foot, bravo… 😀
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Yes, and with a howitzer!
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If “green” solar and wind energy was truly useful and cheap, don’t you think as an act of virtue signaling a green energy manufacturer would produce and uss electricity from their own product?
If it doesn’t even work for the manufacturer with their own product, then who could it possibly work for?
The Chicomms are laughing all the way to the bank and imminent world domination. They can’t believe that the West is deliberately destroying itself. They send a hearty thankyou to Leftists everywhere.
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Other fun thing with hurricanes is what they do to wind turbines and solar panels. 1 min 21 secs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1AAHJs-j3uw
That’s from 2017 in Puerto Rico, which is a very lefty US territory. They love their green icons. Be interesting to know how the rebuilt turbines and panels did during hurricane Fiona which went through there on 18 Sep. Seems rather pointless to build a bunch of wind turbines and solar panels only for them to be blown away every five years or so.
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FINAL SCORE
Hurricane 2
Wind subsidy farm 0
Solar subsidy farm 0
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I’ve never heard of a proper coal, gas, nuclear or hydro power station destroyed by a weather event.
(*An exception was damage, not destruction, of the Oroville Dam in California. That was a management problem and the dam was not destroyed. QUOTE The Association of State Dam Safety Officials (ASDSO) stated that, “The Oroville Dam spillway incident was caused by a long-term systemic failure to recognize and address inherent spillway design and construction weaknesses, poor foundation bedrock quality, and deteriorated service spillway chute conditions.” END QUOTE
*Fukushima was a geological event and only happened because of a known bad design and failure to correct the design issue.)
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Factories not only need cheap electricity, as does all manfacturing. It’s what ended millenia of slavery. That and Christianity.
Manufacturing needs reliable, adequate, commandable electricity to be able to make things cheaper. I was in India in a factory when it all stopped. The windmills stopped. And you waited, workers standing around, being paid, not able to do a thing. And of course the machines forgot where they were, processing lines forgot, everything had to be restarted when and if the windmills started. This is not simple. In the case of some processes like smelting, it is a disaster as happened at Alcoa, Portland, Victoria. Destroying the place.
And some processes are simply the use of energy to transform materials. Energy goes up and material prices go up. So you get the cost of making the material, then forming, joining and labour. This all compounds so along with the massive drop in productivity, you get a massive increase in cost of manufacture multiplying all these costs.
Our 21 century world was build on cheap, commandable, plentiful, reliable energy. None of these things are true with windmills. And solar panels are a very bad joke. You have to cover all of Victoria in solar panels to generate the energy Melbourne requires just to exist.
And what else is there? Hydro existed two centuries ago, but does not suit flat countries. And thanks to the Greens there are no more dams, even in lands of endless droughts and flooding rain like Australia.
With fake climate experts, like Professor Tim Flannery we have crippled our country to save the planet. And the greatest rain in a hundred years is being wasted because ‘even the rain which falls will not fill the dams’, which are all at 100%.
Imagine if the government had been advised by real weather experts like meteorologists? Or even an 18 year old poet from a century ago, Dorothea McKellar. Droughts and flooding rains is the climate, not the one defined by the BOM and the absurdly wrong Climate Council.
And the people of Sydney are still arguing about raising the height of the Warrangamba dam. Victoria’s huge Thomson dam built after the drought of the 1970s, is now at 98.1%. And no major dam has been built in Australia in 50 years, thanks to the communist Greens.
The government and legacy media are all too focused on being Woke to be awake. And the only power they care about is political power and the latest fringe fashion.
Where in Australia is there a political party of real science, real common sense and with a desire to improve the place?
We have undone, blown up, stopped everything achieved in the 20th century and replaced it with nothing. Luckily the rest of the world still wants our coal and iron ore, even if our government does not want to sell either. Solar panels should be banned as useless. And we should be building coal power stations as fast as we can.
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I can think of 4 major dams that should have been built.
Welcome Reef (near Goulburn NSW), Wolfdene (partner to Wyvenhoe in SE Qld) Martins Creek (Victoria), Tillegra (NE of Newcastle).
Probably others on the northern NSW coast rivers, but feeding west, would also be a big plus.
I’m sure the brains trust here can name a few others.
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Welcome Reef. Very unwelcome. It was proposed in 2004 and rejected. They are seeking support to build the dam.
Wolfdene was stopped by activists.
Tillegra was another proposal rejected.
In this land of droughts and flooding rains, we prefer both, one after the other in a predictable cycle of misery. Europe would look very different if no one did a thing. The landscapes of most of Europe have been completely changed by dams, agriculture, forestry and they no longer have wolves and bears in the forest, as in Russia.
Given their way, the Greens would ban all farming, manufacturing, forestry, food processing, metal making and take us back to the stone age and hunter gathering. And recreate the time before sewerage when no cities were over 1 million people. Which is absurd as the bulk of today’s caring Greens live in the inner city off the hard work of others and having their fresh food delivered while they charge their electric cars from coal. Green is a modern parasitic culture and Green politicians are the best example of utterly destructive opportunists in a modern world.
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Cheer up, TdeF.
Look what the German Greens Leader (and vice-Chancellor in the coalition) has to put up with. He cannot show his face in public, something of a handicap in an election. see https://notrickszone.com/2022/10/08/germanys-green-party-in-die-straits-isolates-its-hapless-leader-in-run-up-to-lower-saxony-elections/
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The no nonsense hard working Protestant work ethic Germans will have had enough of this.
Apologising for WWII is wearing very thin as they find themselves shackled to Russia because they will not use their own plentiful brown coal or nuclear. Some people will remember they have been there before. There is going to be a huge backlash against Green idi*cy.
The EU has given them political power and integrated them with Europe again eighty years after Hitler, but at the cost of their industry. That’s not a great deal. And when Germany shifts, everyone else follows.
As billionaire Kanye West calls BLM just a scam. The denunciation of Green lunacy is not far behind. And all the rest of the Woke gospel according to Pope Francis.
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“they no longer have wolves and bears in the forest, as in Russia.”
There has been a marked recovery by wolves, bears, lynx, etc in Europe. Their numbers are increasing in eastern countries and they are spreading west. While on holiday in the French Alps last winter I overheard a local shepherd recounting how he had lost 22 sheep to wolves.
It’s a lonely glimmer of good news!
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Imagine if the billions or trillions of dollars Australia had THROWN AWAY on all the solar, wind, Big Battery and desalination subsidy harvesting projects had been spent on something useful.
-Australia could have been drought proofed.
-Have up to date coal and gas power stations.
-Could have built some nuclear reactors.
-Could have reformed the education system so that It was restored to teaching fundamental subjects like reading, writing, arithmetic, science, real history, an appreciation of Western Civilisation and Western religion and moral values (rather than hatred of it) and no woke Leftist nonsense.
-Built some very needed roads and railways (but not ultra high speed railways), ultra high speed rail is just for the subsidy harvesters, tracked trains on properly installed straight tracks can go 350kph which should be adequate for most Australian routes, if you want faster, then fly.
Etc.
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The waste is what keeps the game going.
The lead teams in Australian political Parties, apart from Pauline’s mob, will fight tooth and nail to continue the gross waste – and destruction – as they claim to regulate the Earth’s temperature rather than have to face responsibility for the unforgivable damage they’ve brought down on the nation.
I dare say the same response holds throughout the Western nations. They will all go down in the almanacs of history as the most damaging, ideologically and power driven people to ever have ruled on the planet. To do so, they totally defied scientific methodology that had developed since the middle ages. They are ego driven. They decided they were controllers of the universe, and their opinions were more powerful and accurate than those needing proof before acceptability.
My guess is, the Europeans will use the years getting fossil fuel and nuclear energy flowing free again to try to crab-walk away from the mess, knowing people have short attention spans and just living occupies most of their thinking.
Just consider getting cheap energy back and nations working again and then trying to again go renewables knowing everything one knows now. They will simply say that was all based on ‘what if’ and the world hasn’t warmed as was prophesised, or has warmed and look at the benefits.
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Hi TdeF
Yes, A lot of what our self-proclaimed moral superiors are proposing for us reminds me of the story about the goose that laid the golden egg. In this story, the people were so dumb that they destroyed the source of their prosperity.
It sounds like we haven’t changed much over the years.
Cheers,
Speedy
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Ironic that Qld are talking about building a desalination plant plus recycling waste water as they are running out of potable water at the same time they are proposing a pumped water ‘renewable’ energy system.
They can build a dam for ruinables but not for life-sustaining potable water.
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Australia already has Net Zero.
The trouble those ‘Pollies’ with a Net Zero IQ are too thick to get that message into their thick skull.
We are doomed and it will be Crash and Burn for us while they nip off to some safe South Sea Island. Errrrrrrrrrrrr. Maybe not as aren’t the seas supposed to be rising……………….Of course not Mr. Flannery.
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We are a carbon sink and during times like now, with so much water about, we are soaking up CO2 at a rapid rate.
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Anyone with a reasonable ability to reason where the rush to RE would end up had worked out where it was headed a long time ago, but those with an agenda are not reasoned and reasonable persons ( Chris Bowen, Adam Bandt, Bob Brown, being exhibit A types)
One must ask the obvious question, if Wind and Solar are so good, why do not the manufacturers of these products power their factories with their own product?
This should be a self-evident answer for our thought leaders and political leaders.
If not, why no?
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“If not, why no?”
Remember the “wisdom of Trudeau” that “the budget will balance itself” and go from there
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All sums balance when you multiply both sides of the equation by zero.
Result? You have nothing left.
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hardly an obvious question in most cases it wouldnt be a consideration for practical reasons like real estate and grid ownership, and there is nothing to say they beleive any one piece they make is the 100% silver bullet.
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After Hurricane Ian’s Floods, Florida Battling Fires from Water-Damaged Electric Vehicles
This week’s fun chemistry lesson.
People are beginning to discover a significant, new challenge in post-disaster recovery following a major storm.
Fire department officials across Southwest Florida are urging electric vehicle owners to take action after multiple EVs caught fire due to water damage from Hurricane Ian – a hazard costing emergency services precious time in recovery efforts.
“It’s just the allocation of resources that we have to put towards these fires,” North Collier Assistant Fire Chief James Hammond told FOX Business’ Madison Alworth in an appearance on “Varney & Co.” Friday. “And it just ties up resources a lot longer.”
The batteries in electric vehicles are lithium-ion (using lithium compounds rather than pure lithium metal). Once a EV-battery fire ignites, it is very hard to extinguish.
Once alight, lithium-ion battery fires are very hard to extinguish. Common fire suppressants don’t work and the fire can burn very fiercely. In some circumstances, the battery can explode.
“If you have a problem with one cell, it’s going to start spreading,” says Magrabi.
This unstoppable fire is called “thermal runaway” which is carefully explained in this video from emergency responder training company evfiresafe.com.
Then, as Florida’s fire fighters discovered, other materials in the car ignite to generate toxic substances.
[Broward Sheriff’s Office Fire Rescue Hazmat Strike team] responded to Friday morning’s fire and say the cause was actually interior atmospheric monitoring which found elevated carbon monoxide levels, and hydrogen cyanide levels, along with multiple batteries with high heat signatures.
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Dont worry OldOzzie, there isnt enough lithium to go around for everyone to own an electric car. So you wont own one, and you’ll be happy…. /sarc
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RobB the data shows you are on the money, but just watch the Bowen and Albo donkeys + the Greens loonies as they pull out all the stoppers to force up the price of popular ICE cars in Australia.
In fact its already happening and more legislation will quickly follow with the support of the Teals idiots.
And enough clueless Aussies actually voted for these ignorant fools and I’m sure that “permanent drought Flannery” numbskull etc will be whooping for joy.
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Our local SES/CFA guys tell me the main plan is let them burn, stay out of the smoke, stop the fire spreading.
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I am still waiting for a Leftist to admit they made a huge mistake.
But it was no mistake was it?
This is about destroying Western Civilisation.
Obama increased the destruction when he decided to massively weaken American and empower countries like Iran with nuclear weapons. He wanted to bring American supremacy, and thus Western supremacy, “down a notch”, or ten. A very evil man.
China (a threat to the West plus also the world’s largest CO2 emitter) and India (not a threat) wouldn’t be exempt from emissions otherwise, would they?
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I wish Leftists would suffer as much as normal people.
But mostly they are wealthy Elites, highly overpaid senior public serpents or politicians or members of the slave army of useful idiots that believe everything they are told and are content to suffer “for their own good”.
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Green energy can’t produce green infrastructure cost effectively. I have been pointing this out to folks for a long time, but what the heck is the writer of the magazine article attempting to say here?
Is this an attempt to link reliable and affordable to renewables without a negative in the sentence?
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Perhaps not coincidentally, a very important paper by Mark Mills was reproduced in full at Stop These Things yesterday at:
http://stopthesethings.com/2022/10/08/grand-renewables-delusion-hard-reality-keeps-smashing-wind-solar-transition-myth/
The paper can be downloaded in full at:
https://media4.manhattan-institute.org/sites/default/files/the-energy-transition-delusion_a-reality-reset.pdf
Readers here excepted, who’d have thought that solar PV cells require vast amounts of fossil-fuelled energy in their manufacture? Aren’t they supposed to just, well, pop into existence?
Well done Jo!
Regards,
Paul Miskelly
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Most of this discussion is predicated (based) on the notion that Renewable Energy IS supposed to work: to be viable and maybe affordable. However this can only be correct of those in control actually want it thus. They do not.
Reality is that 99% of “the elites” are totally self-obsessed: wanting as much wealth and luxury for themselves as possible, and they do not want RE to ever “make sense” for the masses.
The proofs are legion. The getting about in fleets of private jets; the $100 steaks while bemoaning methane production from cows, and on and on…..
Here’s an Aussie example: Snowy 2.0, a project whereby water in a higher-altitude dam (Tantangara at 1220 metres) will flow via tunnel at peak periods (morning and dusk), downhill through the Lob’s Hole power station at about 550 metres and then on to Talbingo/Blowering Reservoir at around 400 metres.
The water will then be pumped back uphill to Tantangara through the tunnels by day when renewable power is not needed, and is cheap. There will be $20 billion spent on this project by the time it is completed.
Meanwhile, when EVs become more popular there will be no cheap renewable energy by day as that will be peak charging time for EVs. It’s all a dud…or more likely a deliberate fraud.
So, we know who will NOT get the promised peak-period power; the little people. And we also know who will get the lion’s share of the $20 Billion.: govt operatives and large corporations paying these govt operatives.
This is ALL RE’s are about everywhere.
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it’s ok, just send all manufacturing to china. [/sarc]
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DLK,
You say your comment is /sarc.
Sadly it is history – most of the ‘West’ cannot make power stations, never mind solar panels, cost-effectively.
And our political classes, with few exceptions, have encouraged this shift – “Globalism” they called it.
And where is our energy security?
Aren’t highly paid civil servants meant to see the risks, and at least propose policies that work?
But their golden pensions are secure, and Honours, in the UK! For humiliating failure.
Keep warm this winter – burn a Green!!
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The “nitrogen war” in Netherlands, an anticipation of times to come
Farmers in the Netherlands are revolting over the government’s plan to drastically reduce nitrogen emissions by 2030 and is pointing to agriculture and farmers as the worst offenders. But farmers have taken to the streets, blocking roads, and distribution centers, and there has been some serious incidents, including police opening fire on protestors,
It all looks as the “nitrogen war” in the Netherlands is an anticipation of the conflict between environment awareness organizations and agriculture, industry over production systems and its consequences.
“I really understand their anger,” Marcel Crok, a Dutch science writer and co-founder of the Climate Intelligence Foundation, said in an interview. “The farmers are also angry because they say, ‘we are the only sector who get all the blame.’ What about industry? What about the traffic? Maybe we should just ban all the cars in the Netherlands because they also emit nitrogen.”
“This plan as announced in practice means that, in certain areas, farmers have to reduce their nitrogen emissions by 70%,” he continued. “That means they simply have to quit.”
The proposal to sharply cut nitrogen emissions is tied to a 2019 Dutch court decision forcing the nation’s government to take more aggressive measures to curb nitrogen emissions. The Netherlands, though, has heavily regulated agriculture emissions since the 1990s and farmers have largely complied with such rules, Crok said.
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Beyond the war on “nitogen” (sic), the Left wants non-Elites to depopulate.
In Belgium they are killing 23 year olds just because they are “depressed”.
https://www.bbc.com/news/stories-45117163
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Extraordinary photos in that article. one when she was a child, very happy, and older, completely transformed, taken on a feminist type appearance looks like she’d lost her soul, most likely to leftism. Very dangerous stuff.
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OldOzzie; at first I thought the article was about emissions of gaseous nitrogen which seemed monumentally stupid, even for greens. It’s actually about Ammonia which they appear to call “Nitrogen” in the same way that CO2 is labelled “Carbon”. Does ammonia have much of a greenhouse effect, or does it oxidise to NOx?
Presumably this is a consequence of using nitrogenous fertilisers. Since they are made from natural gas, the current shortages and horrendous prices will cause huge cutbacks anyway – and yields will drop in consequence.
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Not unique to Europe. This from all the way back in 2017.
South Australia’s sky-high electricity prices have forced an Adelaide plastics recycling business to shut its doors, costing 35 workers their jobs, its managing director says.
Plastics Granulating Services (PGS), based in Kilburn in Adelaide’s inner-north, said it had seen its monthly power bills increase from $80,000 to $180,000 over the past 18 months.
Managing director Stephen Scherer said the high cost of power had crippled his business of 38 years and plans for expansion, and had led to his company being placed in liquidation.
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Hilarious. China winning the long war against the so very stupid and self-destructive West, by selling them coal-fired Solar Panels and Windmills.
It’s a chicken and egg problem. Do we build the cheap, reliable energy (Coal, Oil, Gas, Nuclear) we need first, or the asylums needed to house those preventing us from doing so?
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…which is why the pipe dreams for the return of local manufacturing won’t materislise. No-one wants or can afford the premium prices.
So the biggest polluter in Earth gets to make the “planet saving” green tech.
Irony part 2…What would “psycho chick” Greta say?
Btw – does everyone know that China leads the world in cancer rates, sickness and death?
The people are as sick as their ecosystem and you can’t just paint people green.
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I wonder how desperate Europeans will get in their quest to find things to burn to keep warm?
Will they start tearing down historic buildings to burn them, or artworks? There is not many forests left to take/steal wood from.
I guess they could find some peat or coal at surface outcrops if there’s any left.
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the assumption that they all have fireplaces is odd
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I never assumed that. They can improvise.
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So let’s fix it all by having an election!
The winners will appoint a prime minister and a cabinet, the majority of whom will be clueless, but will depend on the media and “expert” advisers for all their information. Anyone in the cabinet who actually has a clue will be outvoted, and if too insistent, ejected.
So, the country is actually run from the back room by people who are indoctrinated or in debt to the enemies of the Nation. As a result, we have demolished our power stations, insist on windmills, solar panels, electric cars without electricity, we prohibit nuclear power and new dams, encourage depravity, abortion, and the demonizing of dissent. And the associated COV-19 virus and vaccines look suspiciously genocidal.
Surely, all these are wins for the enemies of the nation?
But then, I am white and 87 years old, so what would I know?
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Look where the current crop of sycophant pollies has got us all, and where they want to take us.
The people we NEED in politics are ironically the ones that don’t want to lower themselves to that level.
After the big collapse and rebirth of a “new” society…
Rinse, repeat.
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Agree. bit let’s start with an educated “enlightened” population. If we start by allowing our kids to be indoctrinated by dumb teachers, then there’s no point in having a democratic vote. Democracy needs a voting public that is logically, scientifically and morally informed.
None of which is likely to eventuate from the present crop of teachers.
Cheers,
Speedy.
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The real problem is the media. They dictate almost everything, by either pushing or suppressing stories and narratives.
Politicians have to comply, otherwise they are destroyed by adverse and biased media publicity. That’s why Morrison went to COP26. That’s why Boris Johnson went woke. To avoid being burned by the media.
I consider that most center to right politicians are aware that Net Zero is insanity, but they can no longer speak against it.
It’s the same in all Western countries, and may remain so until chaos happens – such as rolling blackouts, systems shutting down, etc.
Even still, the media will try and keep the lid on it, like what they did by failing to report on anti-lockdown protests in Melbourne. When chaos is happening everywhere, the media will blame it on insufficient investment in renewables. Inverting things is what the left does best.
The Great Reset that we do we need is a Great Reset of the mainstream media.
But, good people, how do we achieve that?
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And I should add, elections don’t change the media…
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Western Civilisation is in the process of collapse because of (a) some of the world’s most evil people, the Elites of the Left and (b) some of the world’s most ignorant and/or stupid people, the slave army of useful idiots of the Elites of the Left.
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Haha. So true.
Still, I think the average person thinks of jobs as in electricians, trades. They expect these things to be made in China. And if you’re a green or leftist you can’t criticise China.
So, I think we will have to keep looking for something to convince them wind and solar is rubbish. We are not dealing with rational minds, but purely ideological minds.
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What about the jobs in removing the “beautiful plumage” panels?
Or will the failed experiments be left standing as a memorial to low iq loony left pipe dreams?
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they will soon find that ideology doesn’t make stuff come out of power points.
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Remember it was the National Socialists that started the “green” movement as documented in Rupert Darwall’s book “Green Tyranny: Exposing the Totalitarian Roots of the Climate Industrial Complex”.
Pagan nature worship is also a good part of it.
wrote National Socialist Professor of Biology Ernst Lehmann in 1934. Sixty percent of German biologists joined the National Socialists.
Just like today’s Left, the National Socialists saw their role as subservience to nature and rejection of Enlightenment values such as ongoing material progress.
And National Socialism came about in the context of an advanced scientific culture, just as the modern Left has again developed today. It can happen again.
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It continues to this day. Keith Woods is a very popular national socialist youtuber. An intelligent, well read, scholarly type who is a philosophical demigod to his followers and many on the far right. He preaches environmentalism 101, climate change, sixth extinction.
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I for one have very little sympathy for the grave that EU/Europeans have dug for themselves in this regard.
The Russians provided them affordable gas by mutual agreement via join investment programmes and long-term gas pricing contracts. Nothing was forced upon them. The Germans were able to on-sell this energy at spot rates to neighboring countries and make a tidy profit in the process.
Then the Germans and other European countries decided to suicide their economies via mad policies and now sanctions.
So it is them who must now suffer the consequences, and pity other countries who watch this folly but proceed off the same cliff.
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I must be reading this differently than your green thumbers. You seem, to me at least, to be saying that Germany, having signed a contract with the devil, in good faith, are no better than the devil if they don’t honour it ergo: Blame the victim.
They were warned after all.
I’m a mechanic, not a philosopher, the point is difficult to express. Bear with me.
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The Germans are not victims vis-a-vis the Russians.
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MSM: climate change threatens humanity
MSM: renewables work
MSM: vaccines are safe
MSM: ivermectin is horse medicine
MSM: Putin is the devil
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This was the plan all along. There’s a reason Sun Tzu was a Chinese.
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They will never admit a mistake or change direction. Instead they will huddle in their church, praying ever more loudly to their God. Until it collapses on top of them.
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Isn’t it part of Newton’s law that green energy is too expensive to make green generators with?
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As they say, it’s the ironing…
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Oh my…
http://www.smalldeadanimals.com/2022/10/09/spinny-things-in-alta-produce-18-ten-thousandths-of-their-capacity/
Batteries only lasted 9 and 10 minutes in 24 hours before being sucked dry.
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And this is supposed to recharge a ‘fleet’ of Electric Vehicles in the evening?
Looks like alot of walking and carrying by hand may be in the future…
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What Net-Zero by 2050 (28 yrs out) means:
Oct 7, 2022 (Reuters) – Investments of $270 trillion are needed for the planet to meet a climate target of net-zero emissions by 2050 (28 yrs), Swiss Re said in a study that underscores the daunting challenge of the effort.
Is that roughly $38K per person?
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If you reached that number by simply dividing the cost by total population then no, it isn’t $38K. It’s far, far more, at least for those of us living in advanced and ‘wealthy’ nations. You see, most of the people in the world simply don’t have that money, so it would fall on those of us who allegedly can afford to pay up. It would therefore be at least double that amount, probably quadruple.
It goes without saying of course that we won’t be handed an invoice. The money will be taken from us without our consent, through extra taxation and levies placed on things we buy. The inflation we’re facing now pales in comparison.
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But then
“Common Dreams: Rooftop Solar Would have Prevented Hurricane Ian Power Outages”
https://wattsupwiththat.com/2022/10/07/common-dreams-rooftop-solar-would-have-prevented-hurricane-ian-power-outages/
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They learnt nothing about being overly dependent on a “less than friendly entity”, like from the recent Russia experience with gas. And meanwhile the people pushing and bankrolling this stuff are getting fabulously rich from their morally bankrupt investments in said country. All while the sheeple are being told to focus on the nasty capitalists – in your dreams will capitalism be destroyed, the current big players will just be replaced by a new, even less unscrupulous bunch. Don’t tell me the likes (on a local level) of Cannon-Brookes, Holmes-a-Court, Turnbull are going to be Angels to deal with.
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The WEF Fourth Reich renewables investors SEEM like an intelligent group, but of course when you exist in a Marxist groupthink bubble you miss the obvious.
Of course critical thinking isn’t permitted in a Marxist enclave as the leaders paranoia dictates that any individual not accepting their drone status MUST be a leadership rival!
So nod to obviously stupid decisions and watch the utopia crumble…….like every socialist, communist and marxist utopia in history!
First destroy your energy, then your ability to feed yourselves, then your ability to defend yourselves, but never, NEVER admit it was your ideology that destroyed your utopia!
It would be even more hilarious if they weren’t indocrinating sycophantic world leaders!
Thankfully Sweden, Hungary, Poland and Italy has voters who see the middle and small businesses are the lifeblood of democracy and capitalism and are undermining the EU overlords. Time for them to tear apart that bureaucracy.
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Have to hand it to you, Jo, the headline are words that need to be repeated loud and clear to every western leader over and over again until they know them off by heart, know what they mean, know they make absolute sense and act accordingly.
If you were lucky rooftop PV panelling was supposed to knock a few bob off an electricity bill in the UK twenty years ago but was never listed with a ghost of a chance of saving the Planet (if it ever did need saving).
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