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    justjoshin

    Perth FIFO workers that don’t want the shot have a good legal standing (according to the FWC)

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HTCp5ITdFO4

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      The winner is…

      The Superb fairywren.

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        Raving

        Not only is the male fairywren one of Australia’s showiest birds, it is also one of the most promiscuous in the world, with infidelity rates that would put Hollywood to shame.

        In other words a total …

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        robert rosicka

        What did I win ?

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          Strop

          You earn the right to be cancelled by feminists for promoting toxic masculinity and suppressing women with your overt appreciation of just the male of the species.

          Actually, voting for a favourite bird on the basis of the male being “superb” (and promiscuous) could be the subject of a faked social science study paper about rape culture, used to highlight peer review failures.

          Oh, I apologise. Of course, you may have voted for the female who is also promiscuous. As a strong non make-up wearing feminist symbol who plays the dating game just as well as the showy male.

          .

          Sorry. Spent too much time on The Guardian having clicked on the voting results.

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    Chris

    The Secrets Behind Victoria’s Police State.
    I’m left speechless. How did a psychopath become a premier ?

    https://principia-scientific.com/the-secrets-behind-victorias-police-state/

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      Forrest Gardener

      How would anybody other than a psychopath become a premier?

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      OldOzzie

      And of course George Soros is involved with his insidious Open Society Foundations, along with nefarious Big Tech, but in addition, among ‘NGO’s and Think Tanks’ on ISD’s partners page is the dubious Brookings Institute, as well as Chatham House, and the UK’s RUSI – all NGO’s with the same mission statements; to influence public debate, and counter ‘extreme dialogue’, ‘hate speech’, ‘far-right extremism’ etc – all euphemisms for anticipated dissent.

      Of course, trying to find any sort of definition of ‘hate speech’ or ‘extreme dialogue’ on their websites is a fruitless task, as again, the language is deliberately vague so it may be applied when needed.

      The SCN riot squad never seem to be around when far-left extremism is on the loose though, such as the ongoing rioting.

      I’m sure a deep-dive into some of these NGOs would connect Bill & Melinda Gates and the Rockefeller Foundations everywhere. What we’re seeing is the globalists’ parallel governance network and structure at work, undermining the nation state, as they have been doing for a very long time, and as always, on the sly.

      So as Australia recently discovered, the curfews and lock-downs in Victoria are not based on the Chief Health Officer’s advice, but rather Premier Andrews put them in place of his own accord.

      Andrews has always been very interested in top-down authoritarian style governance – in 2016 Premier Andrews toured the New York Police Department’s ‘Real Time Crime Center‘ surveillance facility during a visit to the United States, tweeting that soon Victoria will have ‘one of our own’.

      In 2017 Victoria Police were set to bring in the twenty-four hour system to Australia, with a new $15 million Monitoring and Assessment Centre, modelled on the New York center. In addition to all of this, Andrews allocated almost $600 million AUD as part of a ‘public safety package’ in the 2016-17 budget. This was in addition to the $2 billion already spent on 3,200 new police officers.

      What was Andrews preparing for?

      Andrews spent $2.6 Billion of tax-payer’s money on stocking up on surveillance, riot equipment, and 3,200 extra police, then once in place he handed Victoria over to the globalists.

      Do you still Stand with Dan and his absolutely remarkable Nostradamus-like foresight?

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      Ronin

      What else has Dan signed up the hapless Melburnians to, first it was ‘Belt and Road, now it’s the SCN, what next.

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        this has been out there for a while now Ronin

        https://constitutionwatch.com.au/is-there-a-new-global-one-world-police-operating-in-victoria/

        https://constitutionwatch.com.au/australias-state-of-victoria-sold-out-to-the-soros-backed-strong-cities-network-scn-with-privatised-police/
        part of this is in Dans speech for the Strong Cities Network saying through Victoria he has opened the gate to Australia for the Chinese

        in the protest live reports you can hear protesters complaining about the international police
        there was a predator insignia on some of the Black shirts with the Vic police but there are Black shirts who do not display Australian or Victorian logos, just Velcro police badges on their backs
        their is a Victorian company as well that may be these guys hired by Dan with our money but being part of this scheme is privatised police, his private army

        https://brandnewtube.com/watch/australian-police-or-predator-security-company_TMcedzHov6al7H8.html

        another thing that is happening is that before covid the Chinese were buying property all over the place paying well over the worth of house prices in Victoria, since covid Melbourne is emptying out, it is a known fact that people from Melbourne are leaving in droves, if not interstate when they can to regional, l know my area has been flooded with people getting out of Melbourne, our houses are selling without being seen, a couple of hundred k over what l would consider a fair price and one l know of was listed a week ago at 9am sold at 12 noon without seeing the property and about 300k over what it would have sold at at the start of the year, a two bedroom fibro cement holiday house for $720k, unbelievable, but what l have been told by a very trusted friend is that the Chinese are buying up big in Melbourne like its a plan to make room for them, obviously its speculation but in these times l would believe anything involving Dan

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      Davidsb

      Oh, come on!

      You put up a teaser about Victoria’s Secret, and what do I get when I click on the link?

      Now I’m grumpy…..

      ;¬)

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    PeterS

    Crunch time is fast approaching. Around the world there are similar if not identical deadlines at or around October 15 when workers will be refused entry to their workplace unless they are vaccinated. Some critical areas, such as hospital wards, might have to be shut down as too many refuse to get vaccinated. Something is going to give and it doesn’t appear to be the unvaccinated. The timing itself is very interesting. Coincidence? Not likely.

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      Not in Canberra. Obviously no one told us about the plot.

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        RickWill

        That makes me doubt there is a plot! Canberra pollies and staffers leak like seives.

        On the other hand (there are always two), the AUKUS submarines was news to me. Maybe ScoMo is running a tighter ship and the plot to bring the human race to total destruction is very well guarded with a only a few really switched on people awake to it.

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      Forrest Gardener

      Yes. The first crunch will be whether governments and employers can “persuade” people to join the happy clappers. The second crunch will be when the happy clappers realize the “vaccines” aren’t worthy of that name.

      There are an awful lot of people who have stuck their necks out an awfully long way. I suspect that many have not done any sort of risk analysis of what happens if they are wrong.

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    John+R+Smith

    Dan is the New Model Tyrant.
    History’s central casting at it’s best.
    Dan will likely become shorthand for New Model Tyrant.
    Condolences to those named Dan.
    Same to Karens.

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      John+R+Smith

      Intended as reply to #3.

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      Mal

      The name for the new tyrants will be The TaliDan

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        John+R+Smith

        Dan as prefix, suffix, noun, verb, adjective, the possibilities are endless.
        Say Dan three times, and his apparition will appear behind you.
        Dress up as Dan for Halloween to scare adults and children.
        Or as an Australian police person.

        I’m guessing, Dan will become an unpopular name for new babies in Oz.
        Is he allowing his subjects to reproduce?
        Only with a vaccinated and pre determined genetic contributor, right?
        (New relations are verboten under lockdown. So if you didn’t have a special friend before 2020, too bad.)

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    PeterS

    Not condoning this sort of action but it’s not surprising:
    Big VICTORY! V⍺ccine opposers in a Guatemalan village captured two medical teams that arrived with C0VID-19 v⍺ccines. The wheels were lowered to cars, the exit road was blocked, refrigerators with v⍺ccines were destroyed, and doctors were locked up and threatened to burn.

    Then again after watching this I do wonder how I could restrain myself from kicking this guy’s head in….
    Fauci Makes SCARY Declaration To Canadians: ‘It’s Time To Give Up Your Individual Right of Making Your Own Decisions’

    Voxday gets to the point and throws no punches:

    That hissing sound you hear is the West’s ownership of the rhetorical high ground deflating like a balloon with a hole snipped out of it. A cartoonishly dystopian future when scientists, doctors, and pharmacists are hunted down like rabid dogs by vengeful victims and angry parents suddenly appears to considerably more probable than even a pessimist would have ever imagined just one year ago.

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      Rupert Ashford

      That scenario from Voxday is scary. I took the vaccine under protest as I hate this coercion going on, so I can fully understand if this turns out to be toxic and people then want to take the law into their own hands and pursue the ones who coerced them.

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        PeterS

        Yes it is and I sincerely hope it doesn’t eventuate but I suspect it could. Then again if it does I suspect governments will clamp down even harder with far more draconian powers, and if necessary with force, such as martial law. Alternatively, if people remain calm and happy, governments will continue to tighten the screws on us simply because they are now drunk with power, and they are convinced they know best, and woe betide anyone who says otherwise. It just goes to show how bad things will become either way before they turn around. Lots more pain to come no matter how one looks at it, sadly.

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      Forrest Gardener

      I wonder whether Fauci actually realises what he has said advocates a slide into authoritarianism. I’m yet to come across anybody in government who shows any awareness of that slide as anything other than a good thing.

      Four legs good. Two legs better.

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        PeterS

        People like him are so evil no matter what he says he will always sound good to himself (and others of like mind) no matter how authoritarian he sounds. The same can be said to most other leaders but they are at different levels of evil and authoritarianism. PM Morrison has been progressing a lot in those respects over the past couple of years. He’s rapidly catching up with the worst of the lot. Still, he might wake up and repent, but that is only possible under the circumstances if he resigns from politics.

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        RossP

        I think what Fauci did with Remdevisir is enough for him to be dragged into court and charged with some very serious crimes, but the US court system is so corrupt a “unbiased” court case would never happen.

        https://rumble.com/vn2vod-dr.-bryan-ardis.html?mref=6zof&mrefc=2

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    M Allinson

    My TV Told Me So

    I’m a propaganda meat-puppet doing what I’m told,
    I’m scared of being in the wrong and not very bold.
    When my television tells me that the seas are rising fast,
    I take it for the truth and verily I am aghast
    To know the trouble’s all my fault, I must give up my car,
    I must give up most everything – we’re evil, yes we are.

    And when my TV Lordship says I must roll up my sleeve
    An endless course of Covid vaccinations to receive,
    I never for a moment question whether this should be,
    Like images of rising seas the truth’s on my TV:
    I see the wards are overflowing, death is everywhere,
    Covid rules the world, although the flu’s no longer there.

    Some people who I know tell me my television’s wrong,
    I call these folks conspiracy theorists – they call me a nong.
    But my family and friends all swear the TV tells the truth,
    Why ever would it lie to us, I ask you now, but strewth,
    Imagine if the TV really has its own agenda?
    But the thought alone would make me a conspiracy offender.

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    Serp

    TedM posted this link on Thursday Open Thread and having downloaded and watched all sixty-five minutes of it https://rumble.com/vnbv86-winning-the-war-against-therapeutic-nihilism-and-trusted-treatments-vs-unte.html I agree that it is well worth the time.

    McCullough has assembled all the key data in a single address. I was tempted to write that this should be compulsory viewing for out chief health officers and then remembered it is about destroying our health; the pandemic is a calculated attack upon healthy people through the complementary agencies of mandating toxic inoculations and continually lengthening periods of house arrest.

    I’m at a loss to understand who the beneficiaries of this unprecedented outrage can be.

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    Ronin

    Their ABC, Foreign Correspondent 1PM, Chernobyl is now a tourist attraction. Wow.

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    Dave in the States

    I had to laugh at the media personalities talking among each other on Fox News today. They were racking their brains trying to explain why Americans hate Biden so much, with crowds at football games and car races chanting loudly in unison: “F$%# U Biden.” They had a bunch of 1/2 correct answers, such as gasoline prices going up by 100% in 6 months and the Afghanistan fiasco. But no one dared give the real answer that is so obvious.

    Americans hate Biden because they didn’t vote for him.

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      Great+Aunt+Janet

      I think they were actually chanting “F*** Joe Biden”, either that or the politer “Let’s Go Brandon”.

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        robert rosicka

        Democrats and MSM prefer “Let’s go Brandon” even though they were trying to bleep out the chant .

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          Hanrahan

          Ya gotta luv the “Let’s go Brandon” BS explanation.

          But while I find amusement in the OTHER chant it is also ominous. The US has the greatest attack of buyers’ remorse in history, especially if the majority don’t believe they were buyers in the first place. But in parliamentary democracies, which the Yanks deride, there is always a remedy. Sometimes it is messy such as our Refusal Of Supply for Whitlam, or repetitive in the Russ/Gillard/Rudd/Abbott/Turnbull/ScoMo era. But with the exception of Abbott who was dethroned by media, the changes were generally accepted as needed.

          What remedy is constitutionally available in America for this dilemma? None! Impeach Biden, get Heels-Up, impeach her and you get the most geriatric of all, Nancy.

          Terrible GDP and financial figures for the US are about to be announced but what can citizens do apart from shake their head? Do you think they are in the mood to wait over three years for constitutional change? I will listen to our American friends for that answer, I don’t know.

          But back to the start: These chants are coming from colleges, not bastions of conservatism or patience. Be scared Joe, very scared. There may be an unconstitutional fix coming your way.

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      PeterS

      That and the fact that Trump still draws in huge crowds while Biden barely manages to get anything of significance. It and all the other evidence certainly shows the election was stolen from Trump. But that’s all water under the bridge now as it’s too late to rectify the situation under the Constitution, unless I’m mistaken. I’m pretty sure even Trump came to that conclusion some time ago. The next elections are what he is focusing on right now. It could be a trigger though of a civil war if fowl play is repeated. Once is enough but twice? I doubt very much a large group of already angry Americans would put up with a repeat. Of course that assumes Trump runs for POTUS again, either as a Republican or an independent. It would be very interesting if he did run as an independent and he won. It’s not the first time that has happened but it is rare. I’m almost certain he would win, barring of course fowl play but if that happens then as I said the whole place could go up in smoke.

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        Hanrahan

        Peter, I luv “wot if” games and I have too much time to play them.

        Wot if Trump continued as King-maker challenging at preselection the haters, and, standing for a house seat himself had the numbers to depose the Turtle as speaker. [I heard once he could be elected speaker even if he didn’t win a seat, but that’s still not in my thinking] The first order of business would be impeachment of Biden. How poetic!

        If Trump then endorsed Ron DeSantis for President it would be a dem wipeout. Being a realist [sometimes] I think TDS could still cost Trump.

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    OldOzzie

    From today’s The Australian

    These meandering Covid road maps lead to a dead end

    Nyunggai Warren Mundine

    There’s a saying: if all you have is a hammer, everything looks like a nail.

    Some of us were shocked when Australian governments copied communist China imposing Covid-19 lockdowns. Some thought this was a too single-minded focus on health over the economy, jobs, education, social interaction, family relationships and civil rights.

    People tolerated it for various reasons. I’m past the point of tolerating it any more. After 20 months, all I see are desperate, tired people with frayed emotions, hanging on because they think it’s nearly over. So it was incredibly disappointing during the past few months to see state governments renege on allowing citizens a full, normal life.

    The so-called national plan signed off by all states and territories dangled rewards for 80 per cent of adults fully vaccinated. The rewards were illusory. Queensland and Western Australia threw the national plan out the window. And NSW and Victoria made their own, more restrictive, road maps.

    Under NSW’s original road map, substantial restrictions remained even after NSW reached 80 per cent, including limitations on household visitors and other gatherings; masks indoors; businesses subject to density restrictions; stadiums restricted to 5000 people; schools not fully open until November 1; funerals, weddings and churches subject to density restrictions. If one thing epitomises the cruelty of lockdowns, it’s grieving via streaming.

    These restrictions would not lift until December 1, with some density restrictions continuing indefinitely.

    On Thursday, new NSW Premier Dominic Perrottet announced an earlier easing of some of these restrictions, including increased caps on visitors and other gatherings, scrapping masks in offices, partial opening of nightclubs and schools fully open by October 25. But restrictions will still continue until December 1.

    Victoria remains under an iron fist. It will reach 80 per cent later and, after it does, will maintain even more restrictions than NSW’s original plan. Restrictions will continue until 80 per cent of people aged over 12 are vaccin­ated, likely Christmas Day. Then households can have 30 visitors.

    Businesses in both states must deploy staff as bouncers to keep out unvaccinated customers (in NSW until December 1, in Victoria indefinitely). Health bureaucrats may think this will increase vaccine rates. But spare a thought for small businesses, which already have borne most of the pain and cost of lockdown, now also deputised as Covid police.

    We’ve no idea when Australians will be allowed to travel freely within our country.

    It’s only a matter of time before Covid gets into the non-Covid affected states, prompting cycles of endless lockdowns and false promises. Queensland Premier Annastacia Palaszczuk has threatened to keep borders shut until the federal government gives her state more money. This is the Premier who banned dancing and mingling at school formals while permitting 40,000 people, leaping and shouting, at the football.

    Australians are like kids on a long car ride repeatedly asking when they’ll get there, with Mum fibbing it will be soon to tide them over until the next stop. I’m tired of being treated like a child; tired of rule by highly paid bureaucrats and their complex, contradictory and sometimes absurd edicts.

    How many of them have run a business or created a job? They seem to have no idea how hard it is to operate with constraints on income while trying to pay wages, rent and the rest.

    Health bureaucrats clearly don’t care about jobs or businesses or the economy, or reuniting families, or mourners being able to properly grieve, or children’s education, or civil liberties. They don’t even care about health.

    They only care about one disease: Covid-19. Scroll through the NSW or Victorian health department’s social media accounts and see how many posts are about anything else. What are they doing about other public health priorities? What are they doing about the health problems created by their own lockdowns, such as the deterioration of youth mental health and the significant decline in cancer screenings?

    Thursday’s announcement of earlier easing of restrictions in NSW was welcome. But it’s not enough. Why must NSW wait another five to six weeks after reaching 80 per cent for the return of freedoms and businesses operating near capacity? Why must density restrictions continue?

    How will small businesses cope with staff forced into isolation if a Covid case walks through the door?

    Mandatory isolation triggered by Britain’s contact-tracing app, dubbed the “pingdemic”, wreaked such havoc the UK largely abandoned isolation rules.

    And who will rein in the lockdown-addicted bureaucrats so we don’t have to go through this again?

    If Victorian Premier Daniel Andrews’ “go hard, go early” lockdown proved anything, it’s that lockdowns don’t work. Victoria’s latest outbreak soared higher and faster than NSW starting from the same point. Yet NSW’s chief health officer has refused to rule out lockdowns after reaching 80 per cent. Why is it up to her?

    Lockdown is the hammer. Covid is the nail. And health bureaucrats see nothing else.

    I think Perrottet understands this. Let’s hope he has the courage to lead the state out of this wilderness, not follow the bureaucrats deeper into the mire.

    From the Comments

    Andrew
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    Thank you Warren. In Western Australia the Aboriginal councils that jointly control access to the remote Canning Stock Route have inexplicably closed it to all travellers citing Covid as the reason. Travelling down the Canning would be one of the most isolating experiences one could possibly do. Keeping covid out of the communities is not an excuse as those community members are still travelling across the continent for cultural reasons. Whilst I don’t question the right of Aboriginal people to close their lands to visitors, I question the reasoning. Would be grateful if someone could shed some light on this.

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      M Allinson

      If the Communist-style lockdown we copied is a big factor in our low Covid death toll, I want someone to explain to me why Sweden which did not lock down, mask or distance, is not on the very top of the tables for deaths per 100k rather than down around number 40.

      Surely doing nothing should have seen the nation posting the highest death numbers on the planet.

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        Sorry this reply is so late. The lessons don’t translate from there to the rest of the world.

        In Sweden, an extraordinary 50% of the population live in single person households. They are living in a form of restriction permanently, unlike cities with high density, crowded homes, some — like in Italy — that span generations. Imagine how much harder it is to stop a virus spreading in Italy or London?

        If we look at mobility stats they were restricting their movements. Arguably, that’s great, because it was voluntary, but it also means fear was keeping people at home, away from shops and resturants. It’s not like a miracle cure for business and that kind of half lockdown goes on for months, whereas a short fast complete one (WA) lasts a few days. (Albeit, that which worked in 2020, doesn’t seem to be as effective against the Delta strain.)

        Sweden also fortify Vit D in foods. So Sweden should have had the lowest death toll in the West, but instead they did as badly as most other western nations, which is not success.

        I hear they kept their hospital ICU units from being overwhelmed by not even admitting people over 80.

        In medical science, if we don’t account for twenty variables, we don’t know what we’re doing.

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    John Connor II

    Meanwhile in Canada..

    Circling back to the restrictions for federal workers and contractors, the unvaccinated won’t even be permitted to work from home. Unvaccinated employees will be barred from going to work, either in person or remotely, and they will be put on administrative leave and denied pay, according to the CBC.

    A senior official told the CBC that unvaxxed employees wouldn’t even qualify for employment insurance benefits.

    https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/canada-unveils-vaccine-mandate-travelers-federal-employees

    What’s the bet..

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    TdeF

    On rocketing prices, you can forget hockey sticks, this is panic buying on a National scale. Gas prices have increased x10 in a year but doubled in a week!

    A LNG freighter load in transit has doubled in value from $US120M last week to $US225m this week! Local gas prices in Australia look like quadrupling. And thermal futures for Newcastle thermal coal are $US270 a tonne. Those load ruined at dock in China were only $75 a tonne.

    From The Australian this morning..

    “Asia’s energy importers are hurting more than most. Today, traded coal prices into north east Asia are soaring as stockpiles dwindle and supply tightens and this is even before the mercury starts to fall”

    “from India to South Korea, the spectre of electricity blackouts looms as buyers scramble to secure supplies

    So it is not just panic buying of petrol in the UK. This is world wide. No one believes in Global Warming when you run out of carbon fuels because it is colder and they know it.

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      TdeF

      And id*ots who blew up working coal power stations and banned fracking and gas exploration, like Victoria’s Daniel Andrews will find that electricity prices do not go up only twenty percent as he promised. Energy poverty is our immediate future.

      Diesel submarines were always ridiculous and taxpayer subsidized electric cars for the rich. But how can you make metals like aluminum and steel and nitrogen fertilizers when the cost of the energy far exceeds the price of the metal. The UK is now reeling from their anti CO2 policies as they cannot preserve food. Fertilizer prices will now rocket too.

      How did we get to the point where Australia with such reserves of coal will be energy impoverished and dependent on energy imports? And the wind, when it blows and the sun, when it shines.

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        Hanrahan

        Someone one described aluminium as “coagulated electricity” and Korea Zinc’s refinery installed 1 mill solar panels to defray electricity costs a couple of years back. [The last few days have been cloudless :)]

        Again, reading about China’s power crisis it quoted China’s electricity had been 4c/kWh before playing ducks and drakes with coal. This cheap power enabled them to produce cheap solar panels – no cheap power no cheap cells so the rooftop solar business might die.

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      OldOzzie

      A cargo ship of LNG costs $281m. It was just $10m in 2020.

      Soaring international gas prices have triggered a near 30-fold spike in the value of a single spot cargo ship of LNG to more than $US205 million ($281.8 million) in a price surge that delivers a windfall to gas producers but threatens to derail the global economic recovery.

      Woodside Petroleum, a beneficiary of soaring prices for liquefied natural gas, voiced worries about fall-out from the “extreme” prices as Asian tariffs took yet another leap higher.

      The 40 per cent surge in Asian benchmark LNG prices to more than $US56 per million British thermal units, while short lived, has sent shockwaves through the global gas market, given the cold Northern Hemisphere winter has yet to kick in.

      At that one-off price, a typical cargo of 70,000 tonnes of LNG costs about $US205 million, up from less than $US7.3 million in June last year, when Australian cargoes of LNG were sold at less than $US2/MMBTU and dozens of shipments were anchored in place around the world or were going around in circles amid a dearth of buyers. It makes gas several times more expensive than crude oil at roughly $US320 per barrel, Reuters calculated.

      The theoretical cargo value compares with a current value of a Capesize cargo of 170,000 tonnes of iron ore of about $US20 million at current iron ore prices of $US117 per tonne. That is down from about $US40 million at the iron ore price peak in May.

      The crisis has added heat to the debate about the pace of the transition to low-carbon energy and exposed the risks inherent in the massive transformation that needs to take place in energy supply to reach net zero carbon goals.

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        Hanrahan

        Curious about royalties which usually increase with price I found this:

        World champions in LNG: Great news for the economy, you might think, with those rivers of resource royalties flowing in to government coffers.

        The reality, though, is vastly different.

        In 2017-18, LNG companies in Australia had revenue totalling $29.7 billion, yet paid just $1.07 billion in royalties levied under the petroleum resource rent tax (PRRT).

        In 2016-17, from revenue of $22.7 billion, they paid only $970 million in PRRT.

        By comparison, Qatar, a close second behind Australia in production, received a staggering $26 billion in royalties.

        https://thenewdaily.com.au/finance/finance-news/2019/07/17/lng-industry-booming-no-royalties/

        It is a bit disingenuous to only speak of “revenue”. I don’t know much about costs but I think I read that the liquefaction trains are powered by their own gas so costs wouldn’t be high.

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          Ronin

          The gas is the fuel, refrigerant and the end product, it also fuels the tanker ship transporting it as they bleed off a little gas to keep it a refrigerated liquid and this gas fuels the engines.

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          Graeme#4

          Probably 1.5 to 2bn to build the LPG plant, excluding wharf facilities, more than 100k/day to run it. Not a cheap venture.

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            Hanrahan

            The costs to build a train were well over a bill when I was trading shares, obvious much more now.

            Joe Sixpack who has never invested in much other than his house doesn’t understand that bankers are not lining up to lend that money. that the gas company has to have taje off agreements signed in blood for the gas.

            Well waddayaknow, those who commit get 20 year contracts at favourable rates. A bit late for states to demand a slice of the action after the train is built and everyone else has taken the commercial risk.

            If you want the gas, contract for it as the Japanese did.

            That said, royalties are due after any honeymoon agreed upon.

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      Ronin

      I wonder if this got started when China banned Aussie coal and scoured the world to find substitutes and came up short.

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    OldOzzie

    Evidence clear’ booster needed for immunocompromised

    Chief Medical Officer Paul Kelly says that the “evidence is now clear” that a third booster shot of a Covid-19 vaccine was required to protect members of the population with an immune deficiency.

    “So the announcement today is about the start of this program, which starts from today, certainly from this week, in relation to people, its a very specific group of the population, with an issue with their immune system,” he said.

    “We know that vaccines work, by prompting the immune system to produce antibodies against Covid, that’s the same for all vaccines that’s how they work.

    “And unfortunately some people have immune systems that don’t work as well as the general population, those vaccine may not lead to that protection.

    “The evidence is now clear that the people in those categories of immune-compromised should receive a third dose that should happen at a period after the second dose.”

    Health Minister Greg Hunt said about 500,000 Australians are considered severely immunocompromised and would be eligible for the booster shot.

    He said Australia’s immunisation panel would provide advice about booster shots for the general population by the end of the month.

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      OldOzzie

      And just to cheer you up.

      New strain of Delta found in Sydney

      A new strain of the Delta variant has been discovered in NSW after eight cases were identified in Sydney, Chief Health Officer Kerry Chant has revealed.

      “We’ve been having a program throughout this response to the pandemic around genome sequencing,” Dr Chant said.

      “Also, we’ve been having a program throughout this response to the pandemic around genome sequencing, and those investigations have identified a strain of Delta which is a different genome sequencing to the current strain circulating in Sydney.

      “There’s no indication that this new strain presents any differences regarding transmission or vaccine effectiveness or severity.”

      Dr Chant said so far seven members of one household and one additional case had been identified with the new strain.

      “We’re undertaking investigations into the source and how the transmission occurred, and we’ll update you when any information is available,” she said.

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      OldOzzie

      ATAGI recommends boosters for vulnerable

      The federal vaccine advisory body has advised Covid-19 booster shots be made available to vulnerable community members, as an extra layer of protection to bolster their immunity against the virus.

      The Australian Technical Advisory Group on Immunisation announced that it was recommending a third dose, preferably of an mRNA vaccine, for those who are immunocompromised to “maximise the level of immune response”.

      “ATAGI recommends a 3rd dose of COVID-19 vaccine as part of the primary course in individuals who are severely immunocompromised,” the ATAGI said.

      “This is to address the risk of suboptimal or non-response to the standard 2 dose schedule.

      “The 3rd dose is intended to maximise the level of immune response to as close as possible to the general population.”

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      Brenda Spence

      Hah, its not the vaccine, fool, its the patient. Garbage!

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    OldOzzie

    Vic police examine footage of maskless Andrews

    Victoria Police are assessing footage of Premier Daniel Andrews not wearing a mask on the grounds of parliament.

    A spokeswoman said police would not provide further comment on the video as the incident was being reviewed by investigators.

    “Victoria Police are currently assessing a video circulating on social media of Premier Daniel Andrews walking across a carpark in Melbourne without a mask on, 7 October,” she said.

    “As the incident is being reviewed by investigators, we will not be providing further comment at this stage.”

    While Victoria Police say the incident occurred on Thursday, The Australian took a photo of Mr Andrews walking towards a media pack waiting at the doors of parliament on Wednesday.

    Mr Andrews is not wearing a mask and is wearing the same tie as in the video.

    The video was posted on Twitter by Channel 7, who said it was taken on Thursday. It appears Mr Andrews did not wear a mask on both days as he approached parliament.

    The Australian has approached Mr Andrews for comment.

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    Lance

    Pay attention, people. Maintain stocks of non perishable goods.

    “Conagra said Thursday it expects gross inflation—which doesn’t take into account hedging—to be about 11% for fiscal 2022, versus its earlier estimate of 9%. The company plans to continue adjusting prices and cutting costs, and said its prices likely will rise 4% or more during the current fiscal year.”

    It isn’t just the USA. It is worldwide. Elections, Decisions, and Actions, have consequences. Gonna be a rough ride for some time to come. Gonna be a rough ride.

    https://theconservativetreehouse.com/blog/2021/10/07/perfect-storm-coming-conagra-announces-food-price-inflation-likely-to-remain-around-11-percent-through-2022/#more-218136

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      PeterS

      Timing is always the tricky bit but I have recognised for some time that food prices are bound to sky-rocket. 11%? No, much more than that – much much more. I’m thinking well over 100%.

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        Tel

        I dropped into the chemist recently, doesn’t matter exactly what I was buying but something pretty mundane which I regularly use but at a pinch not essential … I ask the guy where it is, and why I can’t find it on the shelf … offhand he says, “We haven’t had a delivery of that for four months”.

        I could tell from his tone, he had been saying the same thing to a lot of people.

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      TedM

      “Pay attention, people. Maintain stocks of non perishable goods.”
      I’ve been doing that for a while Lance.

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    OldOzzie

    Perrottet appoints Coutts-Trotter to head NSW public service

    NSW Premier Dominic Perrottet has moved to put his stamp on the bureaucracy, appointing Communities and Justice secretary Michael Coutts-Trotter as the secretary of the Department of Premier and Cabinet (DPC).

    His appointment means Jim Betts will not take the DPC secretary role, after being appointed by former Premier Gladys Berejiklian. Mr Betts was in transition from the Planning department after Tim Reardon announced his he was leaving the DPC for the private sector.

    “I got fired.” Mr Betts told his staff in an overnight message to staff.

    “Our new Premier has decided to terminate my contract. I have no complaint about this; secretaries are appointed by and serve at the discretion of the Premier.”

    “What I won’t do is conceal the reality of my termination behind weasel words.”

    Mr Betts had been appointed to the DPC job after heading the planning department and had been the focus of criticism from NSW MP and former federal ALP leader Mark Latham.

    “One of the things that surprised me since coming into the NSW Parliament 2½ years ago is the woke virtue-signalling and self-indulgent identity politics that defines the culture of the NSW public sector,” Mr Latham wrote in the Spectator.

    “There isn’t an LGBTIQ staff committee, harmony council, reconciliation talkfest, de-gendered language guide, Bruce Pascoe book club or Indigenous urban design fantasy that Betts hasn’t embraced.”

    Mr Coutts-Trotter is married to federal ALP shadow minister Tanya Plibersek.

    Mr Coutts-Trotter has spoken openly about his conviction and three-year jail term as a teenager for a [email protected] importation offence in 1986.

    “We all make mistakes in life, mine was far more significant than a mistake anyone here will ever make. But you can’t carry it around like a ball and chain forever,” Coutts-Trotter said after being appointed to lead the education department.

    “And that’s true of me. Redemption is possible, a second chance is possible.”

    Mr Perrottet has worked with Mr Coutts-Trotter over several years and has been impressed by his dealings with the Community and Justice leader.

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    Lance

    NSW “may” obtain compensation for injuries resulting from requirements to be vaccinated:

    https://www.parliament.nsw.gov.au/bill/files/3835/First%20Print.pdf

    Introduced by Revd the Hon F J Nile, MLC First print
    New South Wales
    Public Health Amendment (Vaccination Compensation) Bill 2021
    b2021-001.d08
    Explanatory note: This explanatory note relates to this Bill as introduced into Parliament.
    Overview of Bill
    The object of this Bill is to amend the Public Health Act 2010 to provide for the payment of compensation to workers who suffer injury, loss or damage as a result of a requirement to be vaccinated.

    Page 2
    Public Health Amendment (Vaccination Compensation) Bill 2021 [NSW]

    The Legislature of New South Wales enacts—
    1 Name of Act This Act is the Public Health Amendment (Vaccination Compensation) Act 2021.
    2 Commencement This Act commences on the date of assent to this Act.
    3 Amendment of Public Health Act 2010 No 127 Section 137
    Insert after section 136—
    137 Liability to workers required to be vaccinated
    (1) This section applies if a relevant body requires a worker to be vaccinated against a disease prescribed by the regulations.
    (2) The relevant body is liable to pay compensation to the worker for any injury, loss or damage suffered by the worker as a result of the vaccine.
    (3) The relevant body continues to be
    liable to pay compensation to the worker until the worker’s death, even if the worker ceases to be employed or otherwise engaged by the relevant body.

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    l posted this up yesterday on Thursdays open thread and think some of the information in it is important enough to post again, it is on facebook and has not been uploaded to utube yet so sorry Hanrahan if you cant read it
    https://www.facebook.com/watch/live/?ref=watch_permalink&v=605446323891802

    it is a link to a report that has information about the NSW court case against Brad Hazard by Mike Palmer from the know your rights group

    some of what is reported as answers from questions under oath in court
    .Hazards side states workers are not being Forced to get the covid vaccine
    .Hazards side admits they probably have the power to force vaccination if some terrible disease like Ebola was threatening society
    some answers Christine Mcarthy gave in the court under oath
    .it is true that double vaccinated people are 13 times more likely to catch and spread the virus
    .the vaccines are dangerous to pregnant women or those planning to fall pregnant
    .the vaccines have never been studied for effectiveness and safety

    what l have written above is only a small portion of what is in the report from the know your rights group yesterday in the court case and is not an opinion, it is answers made under oath by our so called experts

    l was especially alarmed to hear the answer Christine Mcarthy gave about the Double vaxxed being 13 times more likely to catch and spread the virus

    l would be more than happy if someone can discredit the information

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    OldOzzie

    Directions from Acting Chief Health Officer in accordance with emergency powers arising from declared state of emergency

    COVID-19 Mandatory Vaccination (Workers) Directions
    Public Health and Wellbeing Act 2008 (Vic)
    Section 200

    PART 2 — EMPLOYER OBLIGATIONS

    4 Employer must collect, record and hold vaccination information

    Vaccination information

    (1) If a worker is, or may be, scheduled to work outside the worker’s ordinary
    place of residence on or after the relevant date, the employer of the worker
    must collect, record and hold vaccination information about the worker.

    5 Employer must ensure unvaccinated workers do not work outside ordinary
    place of residence

    No work outside ordinary place of residence

    (1) On or after the relevant date, an employer of a worker must not permit a
    worker who is unvaccinated to work for that employer outside the worker’s
    ordinary place of residence.

    (2) For the purposes of subclause (1), if an employer does not hold vaccination
    information about a worker, the employer must treat the worker as if the
    worker is unvaccinated.

    7 Disclosure to Authorised Officers

    (1) An Authorised Officer may request an employer to produce to the
    Authorised Officer any vaccination information held by the employer under
    clause 4.

    (2) If an Authorised Officer makes a request to a person under subclause (1),
    the person must comply with the request.

    Note: Authorised Officers may also be authorised to exercise the public health
    risk power in section 190(1)(d) of the PHW Act to require the provision of any
    information needed to investigate, eliminate or reduce the risk to public health.

    8 Key definitions

    Employers and workers
    (8) For the purpose of these directions:
    (a) employer in relation to a worker means:
    (i) the person who employs or engages the worker; or
    (ii) if the worker is self-employed—the worker.
    (b) worker means a person identified in Column 1 of Schedule 1, whether
    paid or unpaid,

    but does not include:

    (i) a Commonwealth employee; or
    (ii) a person who works in connection with court proceedings.

    To Quote – Mater’s Musings #33: Of course they are!

    Clearly, Covid has become aware and can now differentiate between Legal Eagles, Commonwealth Wonks and the average Bricklayer!

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      Coronavirus: Unvaccinated politicians and staffers set to banned from Victorian parliament

      The Victorian government is moving to prevent unvaccinated MPs and parliamentary staff from entering or voting in parliament, in a national first for Australia.

      The notice of motion – distributed to upper house MPs late Thursday night – would see parliamentarians barred from entering the chamber and their security access passes revoked if by October 15 they fail to show proof of their first dose or of an appointment within a week.

      Politicians and staffers will have to be fully vaccinated by November 26.

      Liberal Democrats upper house members David Limbrick and Tim Quilty have already flagged they will oppose the motion and will refuse to hand over their medical records, despite both being fully vaccinated.

      We think this a step too far, this is basically denying elected members of parliament the ability to represent people based on their medical status,” he said.

      Mr Limbrick said the notice of motion could be the first ever to prohibit members from parliament based on their medical status.

      The Australian approached Victorian Attorney-General Jaclyn Symes for comment.

      The move comes after the state government last week mandated vaccines for all authorised workers.

      From October 15, unvaccinated essential workers will be forbidden from working onsite unless they had received their first shot and are required to be double-dosed by November 26.

      Authorised workers carry permits allowing them to leave their homes in lockdown and operate in a wide range of industries including supermarkets and food, farmers, healthcare, transport, media, police and emergency services, faith leaders and retail workers operating click-and-collect services.

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        OldOzzie

        Will someone please explain to Daniel Andrews he can’t sack a judge who isn’t double-jabbed

        Caroline Di Russo

        In the case of Victoria, what possible danger do many of those working in the above-mentioned fields pose to vulnerable groups? Very little, if any. It’s a blunt-force policy which is unlikely to materially downgrade the level of public risk. In fact, overkill and coercion are likely to put people offside and cause them to dig in their heels. It’s a good thing we don’t have a labour shortage and those people can be stood down and replaced with new staff.

        Oh, wait…

        Anyway, the critical point is that vaccination should not be mandated wholesale simply to increase the overall vaccination rate. It should be a precision instrument to protect the vulnerable. Andrews says that the broader mandate for the vaccine is required so that in the event of a spike in COVID-19 cases, Victorian hospitals are not overwhelmed. Actually, instead of imposing this requirement on citizens, the Victorian government could’ve just done its job and spent the last 18 months getting the hospitals ready so that they could handle an outbreak.

        Four thousand ICU beds, anyone?

        While Daniel Andrews might think this is some policy stroke of genius which will save him from his latest COVID-19 related pickle, this public health order, followed by his usual belittling and gaslighting commentary, might not be enough to get him over the line.

        Firstly, there is this little peculiarity of our parliamentary democracy called the separation of powers. As the name suggests, the executive, the legislature and the judiciary operate separately, and as such, the executive tail can’t wag the judicial dog. Insofar as this relates to this latest policy brain fart, it means the Andrews government cannot interfere with the judiciary; it can’t fire judges or their staff or prevent them from undertaking their function. He may also want to flick through Chapter III of the federal Constitution before picking a fight that would likely wind up in the High Court.

        Similarly, query the extent to which state government laws can mandate the working conditions for a federal member of parliament or a federal public servant. This rub has wound up in the courts a few times and I don’t think Andrew’s going to like where the precedent resides.

        Ultimately, good public policy means using the smallest possible tool to create the best possible public outcome. This, like much of Andrews’ other policy frolics, is a sledgehammer which produces little public benefit.

        And so, like much of the last 18 months, Victoria continues to represent the worst that big government has to offer.

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        robert rosicka

        I’m sure it’s an offence to interfere with an MP from doing their job so good luck with that one Danistan .

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      Greg in NZ

      Not only aware, but ‘smart’, as in Artificial Intelligence? Just joking…

      Your QLD No.1 and NZ’s No.1 both said it’s going to “hunt down” unbelievers. Reminds me of old-time religions from way back in the days of yore, as opposed to science, or medicine.

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    David Maddison

    I can’t find this on a government website but in Afdanistan have you heard that workers who are sacked from their jobs for refusing to take the vaccine will receive payments from the government (i.e. taxpayer)?

    I think it’s fair enough. Nobody should be subject to medical treatment against their will and if Government laws cause someone to be sacked because they don’t recognise that principle, then they are entitled to compensation.

    The following article is paywalled but you can see some of it.

    https://www.heraldsun.com.au/coronavirus/victorians-who-flout-the-states-vaccine-mandate-to-be-allowed-dole-payments/news-story/0073917370952f1e823a4e36273336c0

    Victorians who flout the state’s vaccine mandate to be allowed Covid payments

    Workers who do not comply with the state’s vaccine mandate and are stood down from their jobs, will be eligible to claim Covid disaster payments.

    Tom Minear and Kieran Rooney

    2 min read

    October 7, 2021 – 7:38AM

    Victorians who flout the state government’s sweeping vaccine mandate from next Friday will be able to claim support payments worth up to $750 a week if they are stood down and forced to stay home.

    [REST IS PAYWALLED]

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    robert rosicka

    According to the Hodgetwins the big difference between the COVID shots and the companies that make them is the companies have “immunity” .

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    Analitik

    Joe Biden doesn’t know (ie fails to remember) that vaccinated people can still transmit CoviD

    We’re making sure healthcare workers are vaccinated because if you seek care at a healthcare facility, you should have the certainty that the people providing that care are protected from COVID and cannot spread it to you.

    https://twitter.com/Breaking911/status/1446211115738931209

    Even his Directorpolitical spokesperson at the CDC, Rochelle Walensky, admits the vaccines can’t stop transmission
    https://twitter.com/ANTHONYBLOGAN/status/1444390327884947461

    Yeah, he’s on the ball

    h/t ZeroHeadge

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    Forrest Gardener

    I look forward to a change in the conversation. The question isn’t whether you have been injected or not. The question is whether you are infected or not.

    And with the injections not guaranteeing freedom from infection, it is a foolish person indeed who asks about injection rather than infection.

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    Analitik

    40 new cases of CoViD today in the ACT after 41 yesterday (and 28 the day before)

    I guess that’s the vaccination kicking in – 97% with at least one dose now. Yay vax!!

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      Analitik

      Sorry, that should have been “40 new cases of CoViD yesterday in the ACT after 41 the day before (and 28 the day before that)”

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      OldOzzie

      The ACT has recorded 40 new local coronavirus cases in the latest 24-hour reporting period, bringing the national capital’s total outbreak to 1147.

      ACT Chief Minister Andrew Barr confirmed 16 Canberrans were now in hospital with Covid-19, including six people in the intensive care unit.

      Two of the hospitalisations are babies who contracted the virus while in the Neonatal Intensive Care Unit at Canberra Hospital.

      Health Minister Rachel Stephen-Smith confirmed no additional babies had tested positive, but five infants were currently in quarantine after being identified as close contacts.

      “This is an incredibly challenging and stressful situation for their parents and carers will be able to visit these infants after they return a negative test on day five,” Ms Stephen-Smith said.

      The two babies who are currently infected with the virus have now been moved to a special paediatric Covid-19 ward.

      A fully-vaccinated Canberra hospital worker who tested positive was confirmed to have cared for the first baby who began developed symptoms on Tuesday.

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      Tilba+Tilba

      DO you have figures on the number out of those 40 new cases who were vaccinated | unvaccinated?

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    Analitik

    Victoria kicking goals with CoViD – 1838 cases yesterday smashing the previous record of 1746 from a 2 days earlier.

    Again, yay vax!!

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    Analitik

    New strain of the Delta variant detected in NSW. Could it possibly due be the forced selection against the spike protein by the masses (89.4% with at least one shot) that have been vaccinated??

    Vax, vax, vax!

    https://www.9news.com.au/national/coronavirus-updates-nsw-case-numbers-covid19-deaths-sydney-news/480382fd-9a09-43ba-b5f6-3921fcf979bd

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      Tilba+Tilba

      New strains arise in the unvaccinated, not the vaccinated.

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        KP

        Gosh, that’s good. We won’t have any new variants arising after this Christmas. All the unvaxed will be killed by the virus and the vaccines will stop us getting infected with the current strains. We’ll be right back to normal by Australia Day!

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    el+gordo

    More on Antarctica, lots to discuss, but the standout for me is the drift into the LIA.

    https://notrickszone.com/2021/10/07/antarctic-temperatures-were-up-to-5c-above-modern-from-12000-2000-years-bp/

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    David Maddison

    Unfortunately Australia’s semi-compulsory (and compulsory for some) vaxx roll out coincides with increased sun and therefore increased Vitamin D (therefore lower susceptibility to covid although government and the medical establishment refuse to recognise that scientific fact), more time outdoors despite the world’s most totalitarian lockup policies (hence in a lower transmission environment than indoors) and the possibility of increasing herd immunity due to asymptomatic infections.

    The likely decline in covid infection will be falsely attributed to lockups working and the vaxx.

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      Dennis

      And a sun tan does give a healthy appearance.

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      Vicki

      One of the reasons we will probably see a decline in new infections from spring, through summer in Oz. I’m hoping it will be augmented by a natural evolutionary decline in the virus itself.

      My greatest fear is that this insane campaign of vaccination during the Delta wave will produce Antibody-Dependant Enhancement (ADE) & an virulent new surge.

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      another ian

      And if that doesn’t happen?

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    David Maddison

    Even far-Left oriented Wikipedia admits that most of those who die from ‘Rona have comorbities.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/COVID-19

    Most of those who die of COVID-19 have pre-existing (underlying) conditions, including hypertension, diabetes mellitus, and cardiovascular disease. According to March data from the United States, 89% of those hospitalised had preexisting conditions. The Italian Istituto Superiore di Sanità reported that out of 8.8% of deaths where medical charts were available, 96.1% of people had at least one comorbidity with the average person having 3.4 diseases. According to this report the most common comorbidities are hypertension (66% of deaths), type 2 diabetes (29.8% of deaths), Ischemic Heart Disease (27.6% of deaths), atrial fibrillation (23.1% of deaths) and chronic renal failure (20.2% of deaths).

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    PeterS

    The WEF are now painting a much brighter future for all of us. So much so it’s even starting to appeal to me – but of course I know better. It’s all a con job.

    WEF Announced They Won

    This new video from Schwab’s World Economic Forum is already declaring a partial victory showing that the objective of the virus lockdowns was really for the Great Reset and climate change agenda. Make no mistake about it; even Al Gore is on the board of the World Economic Forum. These people have conspired to change the world by crushing the economy, and the police are also so stupid to follow orders blindly. They want everyone to work from home: end offices and small businesses. You will buy everything from the giant retailers, and they will be delivered so ending the need to pollute the world by driving to the store or work.

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    David Maddison

    I’m sure he is only being fined because he was caught on camera. Otherwise the police would ignore this transgression of their Supreme Commander.

    https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-10-08/police-investigate-video-of-daniel-andrews-without-mask/100523614

    Victorian Premier Daniel Andrews fined for COVID rule breaches after being filmed without a mask

    Victorian police have issued Premier Daniel Andrews with $400 worth of fines for breaching COVID-19 directions after being filmed without a mask before attending Parliament.

    SEE LINK FOR REST

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    Vicki

    For those interested, the following case is currently testing vaccine mandates:

    Henry & Ors v Bradley Ronald Hazzard 2021/00252587 in the Supreme Court of NSW.

    https://www.gofundme.com/f/no-jab-no-job-no-way?viewupdates=1&rcid=r01-163357602207-935083387294496c&utm_medium=email&utm_source=customer&utm_campaign=p_email%2B1137-update-supporters-v5b

    G&B Lawyers of Haymarket Sydney are crowd funding this case. In a recent summary (after providing relevant argument) , they conclude that:

    “The Australian Constitution explicitly prohibits any form of legal compulsion upon the medical profession to carry out any form of medication, including vaccination. In fact, no Government, either Federal or State, can impose compulsory vaccination in this country, or prevent medical practitioners from remaining entirely free to choose whether or not to provide certain medical services, including vaccination. As Justice Webb emphasised: “If Parliament cannot lawfully do this directly by legal means it cannot lawfully do it indirectly by creating a situation, as distinct from merely taking advantage of one, in which the individual is left no real choice but compliance”. The situation here is the National Cabinet and its decision. Applying Justice Webb’s analysis, the Commonwealth Government cannot implement any mandatory vaccination scheme indirectly by creating a situation, i.e. establishing a National Cabinet and using that to direct the States to implement the Commonwealth’s demands, in which the individual person is left with no real choice but compliance (fear of losing their job, their livelihood, their career).

    This means that the State and Commonwealth Governments are unable to introduce any laws that compel individuals to have a flu shot or any mandatory COVID-19 vaccination. Any laws that try to do that are unlawful and should be struck out.

    It also means that the State and Commonwealth Governments are unable to enforce any laws that purport to say that a person is unable to be employed or work in a particular industry or refrain from entering into a particular premises for failing to have a flu shot or COVID-19 vaccination.”

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      Forrest Gardener

      If successful this would presumably nullify any compulsory childhood vaccination programs as well.

      And I’m scratching my head a little at why they are arguing commonwealth powers in a state court. I especially wonder when they say “no government, either Federal or State” because the states have entirely separate constitutions. In plain language the states can do what they like unless it conflicts with a commonwealth law.

      Then again constitutional law is littered with interpretations which say black is white.

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    Davk

    In the past few months up here in Townsville we have had two separate cases of COVID infected persons from out of State active in the community. Both times we have only had to mask up. My question is, how is it that there were no further community infections considering these individuals were moving about for days before becoming known. Any ideas?

    My sympathies to all who are still suffering through lockdowns. We have been relatively unaffected up here by them. My biggest frustration is not being able to see my family in Vic. Others have it much worse. Stay strong.

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    Strop


    How the IPCC buries evidence of the sun’s climate influence.

    Article by the IPA. Link to the report at the bottom of the article.
    https://ipa.org.au/research/climate-change-and-energy/how-the-ipcc-buries-evidence-of-the-suns-climate-influence

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      el+gordo

      Good article by John Abbot, but we still don’t know the mechanisms involved in the Maunder Minimum.

      Solar forcing on oceanic oscillations, particularly the PDO and NAO seem the most likely contenders.

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    John Connor II

    From Geert Vanden Bossche:

    Pandemics unveil major shortcoming in contemporary vaccine design: Too little, too late.
    2021 vaccine summit Sept 2021

    Pay attention to the embedded slideshow!
    How interesting…

    https://www.geertvandenbossche.org/post/pandemics-unveil-major-shortcoming-in-contemporary-vaccine-design-too-little-too-late

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      KP

      But wait! TilbaTilba just told me only the unvaxed give rise to new variants… or is this true?

      “Immune responses induced by contemporary vaccines are, therefore, prone to immune escape. Natural selection of immune escape variants is even more likely to occur when individuals exerting suboptimal immune pressure have a high chance of becoming exposed to circulating virus. Provided widespread immune selection pressure, these immune escape variants will even be able to adapt to the rising immune status of the vaccinated population. This already explains why classical vaccines fail to prevent variants from arising and further evolving when mass vaccination campaigns are conducted in populations that are continuously exposed to the circulating virus, a situation which typically occurs during a pandemic. “

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    Serp

    Is it the case that cancers in remission can flare up after covid vaccination?

    I’ve lost the reference; I thought it was one of the elements in the ever growing list of extremely rare side-effects but am unable to find it.

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      David Maddison

      I have seen the claim but not in any “scholarly” literature.

      But you wouldn’t see reported any adverse events of the vaccine in what passes for medical or scientific scholarship these days.

      Plus government medical databases seem to exclude a lot of adverse events.

      Don’t worry.

      The vaccine is the most perfect in history and the best tested. Nothing can go possibly go wrong. Have faith in Government, Big Pharma and the Left.

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      Hanrahan

      There was a thread on telegram of RN whistle blowers that suggested that. Someone else said the thread has been taken down. Figures.

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    another ian

    “Stop This NOW”

    “Further, an extraordinary level of cardiac adverse events are associated with these jabs. This is not uncommon or “rare” as claimed; there are in fact, as of July 9th, nearly 130,000 such reports for Covid-19 jabs. If we accept the CDC’s numbers for the number of Americans jabbed this puts the rate of cardiac adverse events are right around one in a hundred!”

    More at

    https://market-ticker.org/akcs-www?post=243826

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      Forrest Gardener

      Indeed. The happy clappers proclaiming that the injections are safe and effective already have some explaining to do. It can only get worse.

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        Serp

        And now the criminals are ramping up the vaccination programs for children and Brett Sutton is having kids wear masks in primary school which creates a legal conundrum around fining non-compliance in the population of nine year olds and younger who have no criminal responsibility which only kicks in at ten years of age.

        Again I am reminded of fuami.org, Florida Unites Against Mandated Insanity and the need for a sister organisation in Victoria, VUAMI.

        While Andrews’s Emergency Powers obtain Sutton can indulge himself in mandating whatever fol-de-rol takes his fancy. We’d be better served were these powers bestowed upon a committee rather than a flibbertigibbet would-be climate scientist incapable of straight talk.

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    Bruce+L

    Info from NSW Supreme Court case against mandatory vaccines

    Interesting post about the NSW supreme court case.

    it appears there was a $65 million grant after all.

    https://gab.com/Liz68/posts/107040137600351388

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      Vicki

      This is major – but of course not reported in mainstream media.

      If this is the action that is being crowd funded, (G&K Lawyers, Haymarket, I think in the Nsw Supreme Court ) it is well worth contributing to – which I have, & recommend all do. Sorry haven’t got the link handy but will find.

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    RightOverLabour

    You guys closer to the action… Has this story got legs… ?

    https://seemorerocks.is/why-did-gladys-berejikian-really-resign/

    Hope it’s true. We need to start digging here in the Land of the Long White (Cocaine) Cloud….

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    el+gordo

    Atmospheric blocking is a huge problem for wind power generators.

    ‘Calm conditions has meant wind power over the last few weeks has only made up about 7% of the U.K.’s electricity generation. This is compared to 18% for the whole of the months of August and May and 26% in February. This has meant more electricity has to be generated using gas-fired power stations to fill the gap and, also to a lesser extent, from coal-fired power stations too.’ (Nick Finnis)

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    Hanrahan

    The first video, I’ve read, is a photo shop. Videoshop?

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      Hanrahan

      Sitting in my jocks in darkest Nth Qld I have read similar stuff for ages. Take this:

      but you can also use Co Q10—which is the natural supplement made from tree bark—and the source of Hydroxychloroquine!

      Now I had heard that before and thought that it, along with other supplements, have kept me healthy for many years.

      Also mentioned was pineapple stems, the second time I’ve heard that lately.

      And N-acetyl Cystine is the new HOT supplement, but I looked at it in the diet and basically it’s in red meat and other good foods so I decided not to buy any.

      I’ve asked before with no responses: How are vegetarians going? Red meat, eggs and dairy are so basic in a good diet and the ‘rona will prolly catch them out.

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      OldOzzie

      I GET YOUR MESSAGES AND UNDERSTAND YOUR FEARS—BECAUSE I’M LIVING THEM TOO

      There is a reason for my passion about this issue. My wife took the jab. My partners in our organisation took the jab. Staff—most of them—took the jab. And all who did have had serious reactions, and one died.

      Intense joint pain, emotions, anger, complete lack of energy, headaches—some even had sores and blotches on their skin—this experimental gene therapy has completely changed their lives for the worse.

      As a doctor, my wife felt she did not have a choice—an issue on which we disagreed greatly—and now she regrets her decision, as most do.

      She hired a new nurse recently who did not appear for her first day of work, so she called her cellphone. A man answered, so my wife asked if he knew when she would be coming to work.

      The man began crying and shouted, “Never!”

      Shocked, my wife asked him, “Why?”

      “Because I buried her last week two days after she got that damn vaccine!”

      While I don’t know of a single person who died from Covid, I know of many who have been debilitated or worse by the ‘cure’.

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    I can not anymore

    In an open letter, an ARD employee is critical of one and a half years of Corona reporting: Ole Skambraks has been working as an editorial staff and editor at public broadcasting for 12 years.

    ARD is the German main public TV organisation, to compare with BBC.

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      PeterS

      Honest, sincere and truthful comments by him.

      His conclusion: “What is happening right now is not a sincere fight against “fake news”. Rather, it gives the impression that any information, evidence or discussions that are contrary to the official narrative are being suppressed.” Millions of times, Skambraks complains, content on Corona topics is now deleted: “Facebook and Co. are private companies and can therefore decide what is published on their platforms. But are they also allowed to control the discourse? Public service broadcasting could strike an important balance by ensuring an open exchange of views. But unfortunately no indication!”

      Imagine if others were that honest, sincere and truthful. Almost all news services would cease, which would be a good thing as so much of it is just BS. The only show that would left running would be ones like Outsiders and RT News.

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    Kim

    One thing that I’ve noticed strongly recently is that the CCP trolls are getting in bucket loads into the comment columns over anything involving China and Australia. Separately the wokies have been destroying objectivity all over the place – destroying firm meaning in the language. When you bring in CCP trolls into that mix they can’t see what is going on – can’t see Arthur from Martha.

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      Hanrahan

      There are many thousand CCP “students” throughout the world. I’m sure we have some here but I think it would be barren ground, but my anti China posts are red thumbed.

      Far more fertile ground is HotCopper where it seems they are not merely tolerated but encouraged if they are anti-Trump enough.

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    Deano

    Domestic lithium ion battery mains power systems: Are they still a thing?

    A few years ago I remember hearing they were all the rage and soon the power utilities would only be supplying industry as most of us would convert to the cheaper alternative of solar renewable energy. I have noticed this subject has gone very quiet in the MSM over the past year or so.

    Have they gone the way of self driving cars?

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    https://childrenshealthdefense.org/defender/covid-outbreak-vaccinated-patient-herd-immunity-theory/
    COVID Outbreak Sparked by Fully Vaccinated Patient Challenges Vaccine-Induced Herd Immunity Theory
    A paper published Sept. 30, in Eurosurveillance showed COVID spread rapidly by a fully vaccinated patient to fully vaccinated staff, patients and family members — despite a 96% vaccination rate and use of full personal protective equipment. Five patients died and nine had severe cases.

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    CHRIS

    There is no such thing as “renewable energy”, WRT current technology, except for wood and water. Solar panels, wind turbines and storage batteries are NOT made out of thin air. Does anyone really think that companies that make these things are doing so out of benevolence?? Get real. Welcome to future world, the realm of pure Capitalism IE: PLANNED OBSOLESCENCE. Really, who thinks that solar panels are going to last for 100+ years? Give me a break.

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