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Chinese Prof says US was defeated in 2020 “in a Biological War”

Bragging, so soon? This kind of talk will not endear:

The comments were made by Chen Ping, a Senior Researcher at The China Institute of Fudan University, a CCP affiliated think tank, and a professor at Peking University.

The video, which appeared online recently, was translated by New York-based Chinese blogger Jennifer Zeng:


Note the caveat. Professor Ping says that the Biological War was launched against China.

Ping states in the video that “In 2020, China won the trade war, science and technology war, and especially the biological war.”

…“the Western model has failed, the 500-year maritime civilization is doomed, the CCP has won and ‘will lead the way of the modernization in the new era after the biology revolution’ after the 2020 CCPVirus (COVID19) pandemic.”

The achievement is unprecedented. This is an epoch-making historical record,” he continues, adding “So for the liberal, America-worshiping cult within China, their worship of the U.S. is actually unfounded.”

When will the West find its feet and stop hating itself?

Speaking of Biological war:

There’s fruit from the Chinese 1000 Talents Plan: Song Guo Zheng was part of a team collecting $4m from the US NIH while he was also drawing in funding from the Chinese National Natural Science Foundation — something he failed to mention. He was caught attempting to fly to China with suitcases packed with laptops, memory sticks, silver and paperwork for what looked like a “new life”.

May 14th 2021: A former Ohio State University professor, renown for his research work, was sentenced to 37 months in prison after admitting he did not disclose his China affiliations when securing federal grant funding for medical research.

Song Guo Zheng, 58, of Hilliard, also will have to make restitution of $3.4 million to the National Institutes of Health and nearly $414,000 to Ohio State under a sentence announced Friday by Chief U.S. District Judge Algenon L. Marbley.

 Acting U.S. Attorney Vipal J. Patel said in a released statement. “Stealing is stealing, but stealing at the behest of a foreign government’s concerted effort to pilfer our nation’s innovations and technology takes things to a new and significantly worse level.”

Meanwhile, the Seychelles, which is already 60% vaccinated, is getting its first wave of Covid infections. Two vaccines were used, the Sinopharm Chinese vaccine, and an Indian made version of AstraZenica. While other vaccines may have higher efficacy, it’s a reminder that vaccines aren’t going to easily save us from a mutating pandemic which is a cluster spreading disease from a family of viruses that don’t seem to create lasting immunity. In the Seychelles, vaccinated people got infected at about half the rate of unvaccinated people. We’re told they have a lower chance of being hospitalized, which is good. But they can still infect others, and we’re risking the awful immune escape potentially leading to nastier mutants, plus other side effects like Antibody Dependent Enhancement, and Original Antigenic Sin which could both misdirect our immune responses so we a more severe disease.

Antivirals could change all that, but they are too cheap, and out of patent, for Big Pharma to profit from, hence, banned in “rich markets” but used in the third world. To expose this scandal, where are our publicly funded universities? What exactly do we pay them for?

h/t Charles M, Lance, David.

One third of those infected had had two doses, so the vaccines perhaps are 50% effective in stopping infections:

Around 37% of positive cases from the week to May 8 had been fully vaccinated, the government said, although it has not released data on which vaccines they received

Note the explanation:

It’s not clear what led to the spread, although Sylvestre Radegonde, the minister for foreign affairs and tourism, said the virus had likely been in the country all along and had spread as vaccination made people more complacent. Improved contact tracing and testing had also helped authorities catch more cases.

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122 comments to Chinese Prof says US was defeated in 2020 “in a Biological War”

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    OriginalSteve

    Yup.

    A speech allegedly given by a retiring PLA general outlined reducing the US population to zero via a biological weapon and taking the whole country or its land and resources. If true, it may put a this in context. However, the globalists in other countries work with the chinese.

    [Snip , to keep the thread on topic!]AD

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    Peter Fitzroy

    Speaking with one of my Chinese friends they other day about the pandemic, and the response was “we expect our government to help us in all things, the pandemic response was just one example”. In the area where my friend lives, vaccinators are not mandatory, but are freely available, and social pressure is driving the uptake. It is hard to criticise a system which delivers measurable improvements for its citizens year after year,

    They and their system is winning, and they have avoided the mistakes of Russia and the West – so far.

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      el gordo

      Does your friend believe the generals were developing a first strike weapon?

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        PeterS

        Aren’t all of them? In any case a far better first strike weapon would be based on a directed form of EMP in combination with a particle beam weapon.

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          el gordo

          The aim is to keep the infrastructure in place, Ji believes war is commercially destructive and a waste of resources. Their aim is to win a war without firing a shot.

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            PeterS

            A focused EMP on the US would do very nicely as the Chinese would replace all the electronic equipment with their own versions.

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            czechlist

            As long as they continue to win the political war in the west a military option is not required. If socialism continues to advance they will eventually just be elected into power. The only thing protecting us is the western nation’s ballistic submarine forces. Long range weapons, bombers and land based ICBMS, are more easily intercepted and defeated. Once they figure out how to track our sub we will be powerless. Take out the subs and it renders our other military options irrelevant.

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              el gordo

              ‘… they will eventually just be elected into power.’

              If they accept our democratic process and their candidate promises (in an Australian context) nuclear power plants and bullet trains. Would he get elected?

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        Peter Fitzroy

        They know as much as we do, el g. Speculation is rife, although the idea that the virus was imported from a biolab in the USA, has wide acceptance.

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          el gordo

          Beijing will eventually have to concede that the release of the virus was a crime of passion by a lone wolf.

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      The Soviet Union was multicultural. They broke up when they had no will to take tiny Estonia. The rest saw and followed.

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        Ronin

        The USSR got 72 years out of their ‘revolution’, I wonder how long the Chicomms will get.

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          Hard to tell. China is not communist. It has a Fascist 49.9% capitalist ownership model. It’s that capitalism that keeps it alive.

          USSR’s Glasnost and Perestroyka never came close to that level.

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            Flok

            difference is that sanctions put on USSR never allowed that to happen while China still has a free run.

            They only appear to be capitalistic as long as they producing cheap goods for the rest of the world. This has brought them to the position of having the capital required to flex their imagined dominance.

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              True, but Russia also has a poor record of letting Western capital flourish there. That’s why nobody buys Russian stuff except vodka, caviar, gas and steel. China makes all sorts of products.

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                Aloha!

                The CCP is a mafia! The CCP bosses get paid the most and the vig rises to the top! The CCP always gets its “cut” on all global projects! The CCP top prosper the bottom, the rural farmers and rural communities suffer. The CCP is a mafia military junta! Without the military, the generals support, Xi would have died long ago! He knows that! He has to have a military to enforce his will. But he can never really trust the military which means he lives in fear but has to project he has no fear! That is an exhausting task to be in denial 24/7/365!

                The CCP is a study in the severe flaws of human nature! That is where 30mil countrymen starve to death for the enrichment of the top CCP party members! Xi is the new Mao jr! I am amazed that the West has been foolish enough to let the CCP into the WTO! But then the West is a study in corruption also, just look at the Biden Crime family now in power! There are no poor people at the US Capital!

                EMPIRES AND THE 2ND AMENDMENT
                All Empires are built on cheap labor. The early empires were built on slavery! Egyptian and Roman Ottoman. The CCP still is! But then that too will pass because there is one big problem with the CCP Empire as is all empires. It can never lose face! That is the most loftiest unattainable law of human Empires ever! Look at the Thousand Year Reich! The British Empire! In all human history no Empire has ever not lost face, not failed! When the CCP collapses the big question is how many millions of Chinese will die with them?

                If it were not for the USA and the Brits 80 years ago China would be speaking Japanese. The Japanese Emperor would be Xi. Then sometimes I think how long would Xi last if the CCP had a 2nd amendment? Apples and oranges!

                [Snip for length, check your email. -J]

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      David Maddison

      Chairman Peter, do you like the Chi-comm ethnic cleansing, rape, torture and enslavement of the Uyghurs?

      How about lack of free speech and right to a fair trial?

      How about human rights in general?

      How about their “social credit” system that identifies people as good compliant people who strictly follow the decrees of Chairman Xi or not?

      I find it incredibly disturbing that the West is full of people like you that love Communism and hate the freedom of the West.

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        el gordo

        ‘How about their “social credit” system …’

        Admittedly its a bit harsh, but probably not much more severe than ours. For example, a man runs foul of the authorities, its a misdemeanour, but he is refused the opportunity of visiting his family by bullet train and has to travel on the old system for a year.

        This is a true story and presumably he has learnt his lesson.

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      robert rosicka

      When the virus first broke out the CCP were welding people in their homes , the CCP also banned internal flights while allowing external flights thus spreading the virus all over the world and with the help of the WHO .
      There is only circumstantial evidence that the CCP let the Virus loose but that evidence is substantial and numerous .
      PF refer’s to his friend but I say minder , we know every citizen has a social credit and the CCP will punish any citizen not vaccinated much like what our own Scomo wants to do.

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      John R Smith

      P Fitz,
      Please provide example of Chinese media criticism of government.
      I’ll wait.

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      Ronin

      “It is hard to criticise a system which delivers measurable improvements for its citizens year after year,”

      After all, they are coming off an extremely low base by Western standards, but spare a thought for all the people suffocating in the thick smog surrounding the industrial cities and the dead and dying rivers and contaminated farmland.

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        OriginalSteve

        Those who cause the chicom govt grief get an eternity of peace .. via firing squad….seems to be the model they use.

        Wonder what happens to thier social credit score after that?

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      shortie of greenbank

      I wonder how much social credit you get for taking the vaccine though?

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    PeterS

    It’s pretty much what some of have been saying for a long time, including myself. The real enemy of the West is within the West. Most people just haven’t realised it yet, and in fact more and more are unwittingly falling in line with them. It won’t last for long though. Eventually people will wake up and realise they have been treated for fools. It will be too late by then as the damage will be done.

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      David Maddison

      A great civilization is not conquered from without until it has destroyed itself within.

      Will Durant, The Story of Philosophy: The Lives and Opinions of the World’s Greatest Philosophers

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        PeterS

        That’s pretty much how most previous civilisations have fallen. It’s now the West’s turn. By their fruits ye shall know them, and going by the “fruits” of the West at the moment, it’s not looking good at all.

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          Serp

          Let’s not call it too soon. While crazed schoolchildren strike for climate is not the best day to be pondering the descent of Western Civilization. This could be our toughest decade as we shall spend some years under the yoke of ignorance bearing the cost of renewable energy policy but once Australia gets back to building coal fired power stations we’ll know recovery is inevitable.

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            PeterS

            The US had their chance under Trump but he let down the nation. He could have “crossed the Rubicon” and I must admit for a while I and many others thought he would but he didn’t. I’m now not surprised since Trump is human like the rest of us and so we can’t expect him to single-handled overwhelm to so called swamp; it’s just too big and powerful. It’s really up to the people to turn the tide as a nation, and not leave it all up to one person under a sort of democratic system even if it wasn’t tampered. That’s not going to happen due to widespread apathy and sleep walking, so to speak. The only other way is for a benevolent dictator to take over the nation, scrap democracy and convince the people it is necessary. Of course that’s very unlikely to happen as well.

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              Steve of Cornubia

              I believe that there is a huge number of people in the US, right now, who are deeply unhappy with how the Left are behaving, and the direction that western democracy is following.

              BUT

              The last election showed that they have no power if the other side is prepared to cheat on a national scale. The only way people’s power carries any weight is at the ballot box or, if that is lost, by force of arms.

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                PeterS

                That is true to an extent but there is also a huge proportion of people who are clueless, don’t give a damn or actually support the left. If enough Americans were truly awake, say 70%+ to what’s happening then Trump would have won in spite of voter fraud. The trouble we have in the West is the voters are pretty much split down the middle. That’s not good when the US has a leader such as Trump to continue his work, albeit too little too slow. In all other cases, it doesn’t really matter in the end. All other leaders are next to useless.

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              David A

              While it is true President Trump was not perfect, “Those of us to good for this world are adorning some other” I hardly fault him for the system that has him out of office.

              Besides, the fat lady has not yet sung, and he is not yet done.

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            sophocles

            David Maddison said:

            but once Australia gets back to building coal fired power stations

            How will Australia finance your coal burners?

            International sources of funds are:

            The World Bank
            The International Monetary Fund
            The Belt and Road (China)

            The first two will not lend on anything involving coal.
            The third will.

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      William Astley

      Peter,

      I totally agree.

      I think the point is bigger.

      What has happened is irrational….It did not happen naturally.

      Our governments are controlled and our universities are controlled. And our news outlets are controlled. And all of the smiley idiots are repeating and pushing the kill our country CAGW, hide the US election fraud, hide a very long list of things,…

      We are going to the sad world of ‘1984’ because of the power of China. And because our companies were unprotected from a unrestricted attacked by a super power and because of the internet, legal, government system technology.

      Almost all communication is now controlled. Governments like the UK are acting as if they plan to economically destroy the country. The Green ‘plans’/promises/lies are impossible to implement.

      This is an Evil plan just like in 1984. Where 2+2 no longer = 4. This is not random. There are only a few left who are awake.

      China is fighting a cold war with the West. And China has used fake carry ‘Causes’ like CAGW and ‘Critical Race’ to destroy our countries.

      That is why we need an issue like a covid cure which is from the people’s standpoint non political.

      We need a ‘win’ to get the people’s attention, that the system is rigged and rigged evil. Covid is an attack on joy, freedom, and fun. On attack on large groups of smiley people playing and singing and cheering.

      So very sad.

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        PeterS

        Sad but true. Reality bites. We just have to weather to coming storm as best we can. I want to stay around as long as possible to help my grown up boys and their families through it as best I can in case it all unfolds in my time. Those who have eyes to see and ears to hear can see the warning signs already. It’s not going to end nicely.

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    Boambee John

    “To expose this scandal, where are our publicly funded universities? What exactly do we pay them for?”

    Their entire business model seems to be based on selling permanent residency, largely to citizens of a foreign nation that is hostile to our culture and lifestyle.

    And reducing the quality of the “degrees” that come with the residency.

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      Ronin

      “To expose this scandal, where are our publicly funded universities? What exactly do we pay them for?”.

      They are working hand in glove with the perps.

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        Gary Simpson

        Yes, the agenda runs deep here. Our politicians no longer have policies – only agendas. Our journalists no longer have facts – only agendas. Our scientists no longer have knowledge – only agendas. Scary stuff.

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    GlenM

    Your vision of a totalitarian social credit regime whereby you prostate yourself before the Imperial emporer says it all. Nanny state advocates think all will be well. Foolish.

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    GlenM

    Meant in reply to Peter F.

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    Peter Fitz

    ” It is hard to criticise a system which delivers measurable improvements for its citizens year after year,

    They and their system is winning, and they have avoided the mistakes of Russia and the West – so far.”

    Western “progressives” said similar things about Germany and Italy in the 1930s.

    That worked out well (not)!

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      Peter Fitzroy

      got a link, or is this something Sky news told you?

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        Boambee John

        Try reading books. Start with Three New Deals.

        Why do lefties automatically assume that anything which contradicts their worldview comes from Sky (which I don’t watch)?

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          shortie of greenbank

          Because for a pay news service Sky News Australia is remarkably ‘based’ compared to free-to-air and government paid for news services.

          Rowan Deans Skeptics Ice Age watch as part of The Outsiders that airs each week is of particular interest in weather circles.

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    China is not a leader. Sure, they can catch up to the west by copying and stealing. What happens when they’re #1 military? Nothing. They command no respect outside of China, because they are completely self-serving.

    The West has liberated people, despite what wicked academics claim.

    If it wasn’t for the West, a third of China would be bowing to Tokyo.

    Totally ungrateful

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      Peter Fitzroy

      every word in this is wrong.

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        Forrest Gardener

        So glad you say so Peter.

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        Flok

        Peter, let’s say you move to China and express your half***$$ views in public. What do you think will happen to you?

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        Lance

        Your claim would be more credible if you actually clarified each part that is “wrong” and why.

        Preferably, with references.

        Otherwise, just mindless drivel.

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          Peter Fitzroy

          Who build the best 5G equipment?
          Who builds the best infrastructure
          Who leads in education
          Who has raised more people out of poverty
          Who is happy to fund infrastructure, medical and education via their belt and road

          Face it, China is winning, particularly in the projection of soft power

          ‘if it wasn’t for the West, a third of China would be bowing to Tokyo – you have this completely back to front, it was the war in China which weakened Japan against the west

          What the video discloses is true, China is winning, we are losing

          Why
          China’s education, infrastructure and innovation are ahead of the west.

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            David Maddison

            Do you know why some Chinese 5G equipment is banned in the US and Australia and elsewhere?

            Because of concerns it will be used to conduct espionage via “back doors”.

            https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Concerns_over_Chinese_involvement_in_5G_wireless_networks

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              Peter Fitzroy

              So what you are saying is that we are so far behind their technology that we can not analyse their 5G gear. This after they gave us a copy of the system software.

              See I told you they were better

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                You can make a hardware chip that has inaccessible code that still executes. That part of the ROM has Exec On and Read Off. That code would have a remote trigger to unleash more uploaded code.

                They can use a design where the signal is the code, not unlike what I do here:
                http://phzoe.com/2021/05/07/tiniest-useful-executable/

                We can analyze it at great expense. EVERY single chip would need to be checked – by hardware.

                May as well make it at home.

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            Serp

            Done largely through theft. Try an internet search on Nortel and Huawei to get the flavour of CCP turpitude.

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            OriginalSteve

            You havent acknowledged the critical part of the story which is people like Clnton gave china a huge amount of tech transfer , presumably to get it up to where it could challenge the west.

            People were alarmed, as it made no sense, but makes sense if you consider the CCP and the other globalists like the clntons are playing the globalist communist game, and do not support the USA or the west, but rather appear to be trying to destroy the west.

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            Oh yeah, all that extra industrial production Japan got out of China weakened it. Sure. Wonder why the US had to fight them there too. Afterall, they were getting weaker for being there all on their own!

            China leads in education?

            Do you use Q for the Ch sound?
            Or X for the Sh sound?

            They haven’t even figured out Latin letter phonetics in centuries!

            And they’re so insecure!
            Why else cover up pyramids with caucasians buried in them?

            Let’s face it, they’re great at copying and catching up. They treat their people like ants. Look at Japanese & Korean cities on google earth – lots of houses. China – nothing but apartment buildings.

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            “Who has raised more people out of poverty”

            Taiwan’s GDP PPP per capita is over 3 times higher than China’s.

            Had China avoided communism and fascism they would have done a 3x better job.

            Using nominal figures is misleading.

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            Boambee John

            Take the education issue up with ACARA and the AEU.

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            Boambee John

            Peter Fitz

            There is one area where the CCP gets it right. They are building lots of nuclear and coal fired power plants, so they will be able to keep the perimeter lights around the Uigher concentration camps on at all times.

            When the CCP needs reliable, continuous power, they don’t waste effort on solar, wind and batterirs.

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              Philip

              Well they’ve cleared a few mountains and put solar cells over them and took photos. That convinces their western leftist sympathizers that they do a lot.

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            Lucky

            Point 3- “Who leads in education” not yet squelched.

            Consider the number of Chinese national students studying in the west, even in Australia.
            The amount of money behind that large number has corrupted the education sector.
            The students, parents, and backers have given their opinion on who leads in education.

            QED

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        Disco Stu

        Got any evidence to back up that statement Peter?

        Who has China liberated? Or are you suggesting that the West has never liberated people? Ever heard of East Timor? The Gulf War? The Korean War? Kosovo? World War 1? World War 2?

        China’s rise has been built on stealing technology, not inventing it. Hard to be inventive free thinkers when free thinking is illegal.

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        Boambee John

        Baizou!

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      el gordo

      ‘ … If it wasn’t for the West, a third of China would be bowing to Tokyo.’

      That is untrue.

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        Mike Jonas

        el gordo – you are right – it is untrue that “if it wasn’t for the west, a third of China would be bowing to Tokyo”. It would have been all of China, not just a third.

        “During the eight years of the Second Sino-Japanese War (1937-45), China suffered continual crushing and humiliating defeats at the hands of Japan and was subject to a devastating, brutal occupation of much of the nation. Japanese behaviour in the conflict was the principal factor which distinguished the occupation from other wars of recent memory. Not since medieval times had such barbarity and brutality been witnessed. Most significantly, it was the deliberate targeting of the civilian population for murder, rape and terror which made this episode so different and so shocking. The Nazis would repeat this in Eastern Europe and Russia, but the Japanese preceded them by several years.” – https://openhistorysociety.org/members-articles/the-japanese-occupation-of-china-1937-45-events-effects-and-consequences-by-david-white/

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          el gordo

          The Japanese invasion was so inhumane that it attracted many converts to Maoism. The Long March was a pivotal moment in history.

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            David A

            So statism, in all its forms, is a miserable tale of group power and a lack of individual liberty.

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    Ronin

    Speaking with one of my Chinese friends they other day about the pandemic, and the response was “we expect our government to help us in all things, the pandemic response was just one example”.

    Isn’t that what communism is all about, you hand over control of your entire life to the controllers, when they say jump, you ask how high.

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      Forrest Gardener

      Yes. As Orwell wrote – War is peace. Freedom is slavery. Ignorance is strength.

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      el gordo

      ‘Isn’t that what communism is all about,’

      For the most part the West has been an undisciplined rabble and Australia, China and New Zealand are disciplined. Liberal democracies can survive and prosper in the new world order if we eliminate xenophobia.

      Anyway they are communist in name only, its history.

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        Kevin kilty

        EG sometime you sound like an authoritarian. Scary. The disciplined also included Germany of the 1930s and USSR from 1920s until its demise. The Zulu were disciplined, the Aztec I suppose also. No thanks to living like any of those. I’ll stick with your “undiscipline rabble.” As for Australia and NZ, I have heard they have a lot of sheep.

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          el gordo

          We are in the 21st century and history cannot repeat because everything has changed. Australia and New Zealand are Covid free zones, so in an uncertain world we are a tourist destination and quarry.

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            shortie of greenbank

            So why vaccinate for something we don’t have? why not just keep our borders closed and become the prosperous nations that we obviously are while the money printer goes brrrrrrr?

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    Ronin

    New reports that the premier Pluckaduk and chief medical officer, Jeanette Young have not had their flu or covid jabs yet, after telling all of us to get them asap. Too busy maybe.

    [Sorry this comment was delayed. – Jo]

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    John R Smith

    Please forgive repeat from last thread.
    Biden in a speech to US Coast Guard, quoted Mao.
    Doubt he knew that.
    Doubt the speech writers didn’t.
    (Mao, the leading population cleanser of all time.)
    Maybe Biden’s handlers can come up with some nice Pol Pot wisdoms for next time.
    Chinese Prof likely right.

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      David Maddison

      Some “wisdom” of Pol Pot appropriate for Biden.

      “Since he is of no use anymore, there is no gain if he lives and no loss if he dies.”

      “To kill the grass you must also remove the root”

      “He who protests is an enemy; he who opposes is a corpse.”

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    Saighdear

    I haven’t listened to the vid: am rather overloaded with all this UK nonsense, etc BUT ! deep coded messages in the Background perhaps? the Bookshelves, the other objects – sheep, as exampled here, etc. The psychology of all this. Have just been listening to part of what the NHS is getting up to in UK https://principia-scientific.com/leaked-nhs-docs-expose-cynical-sales-plan-to-boost-jab-uptake/ Just another useful distraction or something else ?

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    Flok

    By such statement, CCP has just admitted complete ownership of fabricated virus. This overrides any investigations of origins of the virus by the WHO. It does provide a direct answer as well as the intent.

    CCP can and will always claim supremacy in own controlled state. I have lived in a communist regime and brainwashing and control. They can think all they want but they are always shaking in their boots.

    Their network of spies directly influence freedom of Chinese citizens all over the world. This network has to be washed out, one by one.

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    John Hultquist

    Seychelles seem an unlikely candidate on which to make generalizations. I’m not equipped to make the argument, but would like to see a report of more depth.
    The small town and rural county (Kittitas – Washington State) where I live had about 30 deaths as of early August 2020. There have been just 2 since then. Again, a poor place to use for generalizations.
    John

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    “Great video”
    “You’re Fooling With Mother Nature”: Rand Paul And Fauci Clash In Viral Senate Moment
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nsJb5PNl9PQ
    “We have never sent money to the wuhan institute” literally 20 seconds later “here’s why sending them money was a good thing”

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    Custer Van Cleef

    So Ch1na thinks they’ll be top of the civilizational pile.

    This CCP-led country which has NO interest in individual rights and freedoms, is going to lord it over the rest of us … and we’re helping them to achieve that.
    What a future to look forward to. 🙁

    Consider how they rose so quickly: a massive shift of manufacturing to Ch1na, together with a Trade Imbalance favoring them, led to a massive increase in their wealth and technological know-how.

    To disrupt this advantage, my friend proposes a system of targeted tariffs. The West can make it so that other countries (Asian, at first) have a competitive advantage, and consequently a growing market share at the expense of the Golden Dragon.

    It’s not about impoverishing Ch1na … but they need to be contained, and denied the Winners of History Trophy.

    PS. Don’t expect Biden’s handlers to take any action. Or Boris. Maybe Scott Morrison? He’s more clued up anyway.

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    Ross

    There’s been lots of talk in the media etc regarding the efficacy of the individual vaccines. I note the author of this piece has done the same. Comparing one vaccine’s efficacy to another’s is not scientifically valid unless all those vaccines were in the same study at the same time. Which they weren’t- each company (Pfizer, Moderna, AZ, J&J) all completed their own individual trials. So totally different test groups, countries and timing. AZ vaccine is commonly regarded as having the lowest “reported” efficacy. But could the AZ trial have been better conducted than the other companies vs maybe a higher infectious group? Hence, the lower reported efficacy. Overall, there’s no doubt the COVID vaccine development has been rushed, particularly when you consider mRNA technology has never been fully safety tested. Not even animal trials. It’s all one big experiment with too many uncontrolled variables to make any real scientific sense.

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      Actually the author said this: ” While other vaccines may have higher efficacy...”

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      Klem

      Who cares about a vaccine manufacturers claims of efficacy? What matters is it’s effectiveness.

      I’ll bet the current cvd-19 vaccines will end up with a 50% effectiveness and we’ll be back to more lockdowns and jabs by the end of this year. Just watch.

      Governments have no intention of ever letting go of this new found power. They’re drunk with it.

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        sophocles

        Clem, that’s what efficacy means — the ability to have an effect — it’s effectiveness.

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        shortie of greenbank

        They continue to wind down how long the ‘immunity’ lasts so if they cannot even get the coverage length right before release what else have they stuffed up? 1-2 years now down to boosters every 6 months for some. By the time you start vaccinating a population you are back to boosting the early receivers all over again.

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    PeterS

    The Chinese professor might be right but I still think the US will be defeated from within, especially now that new evidence has just been released to show there is a shadow army in the US made up of some 60,000 operatives to carry out domestic and foreign operations.

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      The US defeated it’s self 40 years ago, offshoring all it’s tech lead advantage to country’s that hate the West.
      And then a big mystery why the Western populations fertility rates plummet after the introduction of certain medications to the population.

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    Back in the late 1960s when I was doing basic training for the RAAF, one of the subjects was NBC. (Nuclear Biological and Chemical Warfare) Now, while we were schooled on all of them, the basic ‘end result’ was bend over and kiss your @r$e goodbye.

    However, the N part and the C part were discussed as lose lose for absolutely everyone, no matter which side (momentarily) claimed victory, and here MAD came into play, Mutually Assured Destruction.

    The one we discussed most was that Biological Warfare, and hey, think about it for a minute. We were being taught this in the late 60s, now more than 50 years ago.

    This was not ballparking, but rational military thinking at the time, and something they schooled all members of the Military about during basic training. The perceived ‘advantage’ of Biological Warfare was the aspect of nothing being destroyed. The instigators of something like this were logically thought to have an antidote, or that it would be devastating at the outset, and then decay in quick time. All the umm, ‘winners’ of this form of warfare had to do was to move in, clean up all the dead bodies, and take over without a shot being fired in anger.

    You learned all this ‘stuff’, and then had to sit for, and pass, an exam at the end of this particular subject, well each of the individual subjects during the course leading up to the final overall exam at the end of basic training.

    But information like this stayed with me (well, all of us really, I suspect) not just during my RAAF career, but all my life.

    At the start of this whole Coronavirus thing, I thought to myself (very privately mind you) ….. “I wonder!”

    Tony.

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      PeterS

      When under pressure a country typically will use whatever it has at its disposal to avoid defeat in the face of an attacking enemy. What makes it different today is the weapons at their disposal is sufficient to destroy virtually all mankind. If cool heads do not prevail in any forthcoming and escalating confrontation; well it’s all over for all of us.

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    GARETH LEWIS

    Let’s evaluate China:
    1. Rapid demographic decline – ageing, no immigration, low birth rates and huge disparity between males & females around 20-45 years of age.
    2. Huge numbers of rural poor.
    3. Historical lack of trust between Beijing and its various “lesser” states, such as Guangdong, Manchuria etc.
    4. Virtually no allies beyond those bought by indiscriminate bribes – but plenty of enemies, including just about every nation bordering them.
    5. Huge debt at all levels.
    Xi is a desperate despot. He has only a few years left and his dictatorship shall collapse with him.

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      Chris

      To add to your list Gareth,

      China has had a very severe drought in the north which has wiped out the rice and wheat. Weeks of massive rain caused the Yangtze River to break its banks and wipe out millions of acres of prime farmland. The wall of the three gorges dam which sits on massive concrete rocks are not embedded into the bed rock has moved, many suspect the wall will break at the next major flood. Thousands of small villages have been flooded out and many people have disappeared. Others drowned in their beds, because the authorities released water from the three gorges dam in the middle of the night without any warnings. In 2019 four hundred million pigs died due to swine flu. France gave them more pigs for breeding stock and Germany now provides them with some meat. The Chinese have begun warning people to not waste food.
      As you noted , the banking system is in a serious financial mess.

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      Kalm Keith

      Interesting summary.

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    gowest

    Cant help but think china was lured into developing and releasing the virus by the US.

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      GlenM

      Possibly. There are covert powers at play -some call it deep state. I think the big issue for these is overpopulation as it’s been a high order issue for yonks. How one reads the play I guess.

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      el gordo

      The US said the biosecurity was poor, but I don’t think they were responsible for its release. Beijing would like that outcome, let them off the hook.

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    Furiously curious

    Ivermectin doctors in Australia — Sydney – The Centre for Digestive Diseases 2 9713 4011

    –Melbourne – Dr Mark Hobart 3 9311 5977
    – Dr Peter Lewis 3 9822 9996
    – Dr Shashikanth Mankappa 3 8768 1200
    The good old TGA has threatened to ban it if people start using it. Aren’t we blessed?

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      Peter C

      Thanks.

      Brave Doctors.

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      Klem

      They’ll ban Ivermectin because it is a threat to their power..I mean to public health.

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        sophocles

        Klem:

        Don’t broadcast it and buy your own while you can. Purchase some from a local agricultural supplier.

        Or scan your family tree for a stock farmer and find out if s/he uses ivermectin drench for the animals then obtain from there.

        Read the label carefully.

        However you do it, act before the gubbermint does.

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    FrankSW

    That a (botched!) biological War launched against China might just be a possibility if what Ron Unz says is true.
    https://www.unz.com/announcement/breaking-the-silence-on-the-origins-of-covid-19/

    His premise is that
    “the biowarfare attack was very likely a rogue operation unauthorized by President Donald Trump, but probably orchestrated by some of the Deep State Neocons whom he had placed in charge of our national security policy”

    and further down
    “….elements within our intelligence agencies have sought to demonstrate that they were not the ones asleep at the switch…….[ABC reported that] as far back as late November, a special medical intelligence unit within our Defense Intelligence Agency had produced a report warning that an out-of-control disease epidemic was occurring in the Wuhan area of China, and widely distributed that document throughout the top ranks of our government, warning that steps should be taken to protect US forces based in Asia……..Yet at that point, probably no more than a couple of dozen individuals had been infected in that city of 11 million, with few of those yet having any serious symptoms….”

    and his conclusion
    “It therefore appears that elements of the Defense Intelligence Agency were aware of the deadly viral outbreak in Wuhan more than a month before any officials in the Chinese government itself. Unless our intelligence agencies have pioneered the technology of precognition, I think this may have happened for the same reason that arsonists have the earliest knowledge of future fires. ”

    I know this is all deep rabbit-hole stuff but the concluding paragraphs to one of his previous articles is thought provoking
    https://www.unz.com/runz/american-pravda-our-coronavirus-catastrophe-as-biowarfare-blowback/

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      Doc

      Trump was the one that very quickly had the Pharmaceutical companies into developing vaccines and lifted the legal liabilities on usage once they came to fruition. However, Trump was also notable for promoting therapeutics, particularly hydroxychloroquine, for which he received a huge media orchestrated walloping. He was obviously unacquainted with what seems probable that restrictions were placed in contracts that forbids the promotion of any therapeutic treatment at all.

      So who signed off on those contracts with such profound restrictions if the President himself (who was in the thick of getting vaccines done) was, judging from his utterances, unaware of those limitations. It doesn’t make sense to believe Trump would be so open with promoting therapeutics at the same time the vaccines were being developed under such limitations. The logical inference then would be that American lives were treated as expendable to COVID-19 by total refusal to allow the use of therapeutics that were found effective outside of America. Who needs to explain the ‘understanding’ or the limitations?

      If one follows the logic, then one must also ask why Australia is following the same path against therapeutics, even when so many people are intent on not taking the vaccine. Are Australian lives also expendable? The question is particularly vital to be answered because the so called vaccines are apparently anything but, where they ameliorate viral illness but don’t stop getting the disease. This is the bottom line of this blog article. A few barbed questions need to be pointed against Mr Hunt and the PM, because, if vaccines do lead to the selecting out of more strongly pathogenic strains, just what is their answer to be in treating those strains when the vaccine doesn’t protect while they appear to actively shun alternate therapies that for some reason work overseas but not here nor in the USA.

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    MrGrimNasty

    The most likely scenario in the Seychelles, as I said when I cited it, is that the Chinese vaccine was next to useless.

    Your belief that antivirals can stop the epidemic dead is wishful thinking – you would have to treat the entire population or have a highly efficient track/trace/isolate/treat system in place which is clearly nonsense in places like India (or even the UK!).

    I’m sure antivirals could help limit a local outbreak, just as total quarantine can limit a local outbreak – but with a (country)wide-area outbreak it’s a completely different matter.

    It’s the same reason that lockdowns were useless in the UK but effective to an extent in NZ etc. Timing and horses for courses.

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    Philip

    The Prof’s account of things is accurate. The liberal west has been terrible at managing covid, which caused massive economical damage and general mayhem, and division of their societies.

    I don’t care if you think covid is dangerous or not, what worries me is what hope do we have if a serious bio weapon is unleashed ? China would handle it, but we would run around debating moralities.

    Of course the Chinese have noticed this. People like the Prof give us insights like these regularly. They know what matters, power, and production.

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    David A

    So statism, in all its forms, is a miserable tale of group power and a lack of individual liberty.

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    Deano

    “In 2020, China won the trade war, science and technology war, and especially the biological war.”

    What?

    Trade war – Australia has found new customers for many products China boycotted. And increasingly customers around the would will buy ‘ABC’ (anything but Chinese) thanks to their behavior.

    Science and technology war – They’re notorious I.P. thieves and have proven very short sighted in their activities. They have blatantly stolen from institutes that have hosted them and shown nothing but contempt for our laws. The result is increasing reluctance in dealing with them. A good spy plays dumb for as long as possible.

    Biological war – this war is far from over and China had better be careful what it starts.

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    CHRIS

    All this is only one battle in a war for control of the 21st and 22nd Centuries…and what will be the final outcome?

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    Roger Knights

    Origin of COVID-19
    anonymous
    May 20, 2021 TrialSite News

    (The following editorial is authored by a prominent physician and researcher employed at one of the most prestigious academic medical centers in the world. He has opted to remain anonymous.)
    ——

    Many questions remain unanswered about the origin of SARS-CoV-2, and I am certainly not the only scientists that have them. There are likely benign convincing explanations to everything, but to date, I have not seen them.
    [More follows]

    https://trialsitenews.com/origin-of-covid-19/

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    William Astley

    This is an excellent summary of the Ivermectin evidence/study results up to December 20, 2020.

    This summary provides both results and a scientific explanation/political explanation for study discrepancies and study Monkey business. Medical science is sort of a fixed game. The major players run the show and have de facto control over related government agencies/medical journal editors. Every country.

    Logically when there are billions of dollars on the ‘table’ and there are only Climate change Zombie governments to protect us…. The forces of evil win.

    We can change the game using covid fear and the public’s wish for covid protection as a power source. The ‘evidence’/logic/truth is on our side. The problem is the entire media system/internet control system/China and Big Pharma are doing everything they can to hide the ivermectin results. Covid is a money maker and it is causing economic damage in the Western countries. China’s economy has had the largest GDP increase in its history, post covid. What country is supply most of the masks?

    What is interesting is this summary explains how fake ‘scientific’ studies that are being done by ‘scientists’ who are openly receiving funds from big pharma, can be designed to stop/block the public and governments finding out that ivermectin is an effective treatment to prevent and treat covid.

    Fake studies select healthy people who have covid and then ‘treat’ the healthy people with ivermectin.

    The problem is: People who are Vit. D normal are almost immune/protected from getting covid.

    So if people are Vit D normal ….. Ivermectin cannot do better than a Vit D optimized, body’s full out optimized attack on covid.

    If on the other hand, the subjects were all Vit. D deficient (Vit D deficient people are the cohort who have type 2 diabetes, pre-diabetes, immune problems, they are overweight, and they are the first to go to nursing homes as they age), Ivermectin would have save lives because the Vit D people’s immune response/cell response does not function optimally. Which explains why there is a small group of people who die from covid and/or have serious side effects from gettig covid.

    The other problem is optimum dosage and time to reach biological optimum blood levels of the drug.

    The new injectable version of ivermectin is eight times more bio-effective than taking ivermectin via tablets and virus count reduction starts in 15 minutes for injection, versus roughly 6 hours for tablets. The injectable ivermectin has less side effects because less drug be used to achieve higher bio effectiveness than tablets.

    Review of the Emerging Evidence Demonstrating the Efficacy of Ivermectin in the Prophylaxis and Treatment of COVID-19

    https://assets-global.website-files.com/606d3dece4ec3c3866cc798a/609be2d665a92ea5cf61191f_Review_of_the_Emerging_Evidence_Demonstrating_the.4%20(2).pdf

    In 4 of the studies, ivermectin was identified as having the highest or among the highest of binding affinities to spike protein S1 binding domains of SARS-CoV-2 among hundreds of molecules collectively examined, with ivermectin not being the particular focus of study in 4 of these studies.27

    This is the same mechanism by which viral antibodies, in particular, those generated by the Pfizer and Moderna vaccines contain the SARS-CoV-2 virus.

    The high binding activity of ivermectin to the SARS-CoV-2 spike protein could limit binding to either the ACE-2 receptor or sialic acid receptors, respectively, either preventing cellular entry of the virus or preventing hemagglutination, a recently proposed pathologic mechanism in COVID-19.21,22,26–28 Ivermectin has also been shown to bind to or interfere with multiple essential structural and nonstructural proteins required by the virus to replicate.26,29

    Finally, ivermectin also binds to the SARS-CoV-2 RNA-dependent RNA polymerase (RdRp), thereby inhibiting viral replication.30

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      shortie of greenbank

      The thing is that if Vit D is one of the drivers of negative results in this why not provide Vit D upon admission?

      Well they already tested this back in April 2020 with massive benefits shown on a small sample size in a RCT done in Spain. Even if Ivermectin is found to be great we just know the governments will refuse to bring in these treatments to save people and thus show it is no longer a pandemic with incapacitation and death are no longer a major issue ….

      https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7456194/

      The above study is the one done on Vit D.

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    William Astley

    The link provided to my above comment did not work.

    This is a link to the site that has the link to the published paper… “Review of the Emerging Evidence Demonstrating the Efficacy of Ivermectin in the Prophylaxis and Treatment of COVID-19”

    https://www.americasfrontlinedoctors.org/files/review-of-the-emerging-evidence-demonstrating-the-efficacy-of-ivermectin-in-the-prophylaxis-and-treatment-of-covid-19

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    Simon B

    ‘…..it’s a reminder that vaccines aren’t going to easily save us from a mutating pandemic which is a cluster spreading disease from a family of viruses that don’t seem to create lasting immunity…’. I was under the understanding that these covid vaccines, like any vaccine are just a buffer against the severity of infection. Sadly we have political beliefs that it is a magic bullet and the whole populations freedom of movement will be held to ransom unless they acquiesce to political pressure. I’m no anti-vaxxer, we’ve made major inroads into disease eradication, but this can’t be the covid normal. This is politics, not science.

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