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“It will be biblical.” Corruption so big even some Democrats will object

UPDATE: Sidney Powell now not in Trump official Team. Suspended from Twitter (Why?). She agrees with this distancing and says she will fight on.

The big question — where her Kraken claims or accusations too much for Trump or is there some legal, financial reason she needed official distancing? She’s raising funds at DefendingTheRepublic.Org.  Her rather significant reputation depends upon coming up with the goods to match the claims.

@JennaEllisEsq: Sidney Powell is practicing law on her own. She is not a member of the Trump Legal Team. She is also not a lawyer for the President in his personal capacity.

General Flynn: @Sidney Powell1 has been suspended from Twitter for 12 hours. She understands the WH press release and agrees with it. She is staying the course to prove the massive deliberate election fraud that robbed #WeThePeople of our votes for President Trump and other Republican candidates.

@mflynnJR: Cannot confirm yet but I’m confident this has to do w money coming in for legal defense fund sppt. …. Frees SP 2 do her own thing… which will still be biblical. Give this the 24 hour rule…

The only thing we can be sure of is that the stakes are high and corruption is deep.

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The Octopus Swamp

Welcome to 2020: Living The Odyssey, the year that is like living a movie script. Today’s installment is another Sidney Powell interview, and among the continued allusions to a biblical avalanche of  dark questions, we find out Dominion or Smartmatic type software was not only used in Venezuela and other nations but that the Democrats used Dominion or equivalent in the 2016 Primaries allegedly so Hillary could defeat Bernie Sanders. He was even told this, apparently, but did nothing about it, so the story goes. Powell claims the use of electronic vote rigging probably crosses party lines: “we just don’t know who bought their position”.

Corruption is the enemy of both Patriots and the Occupy crowd

This could be quite the seizmic flip. Suddenly this is not about Trump versus the Democrats — it’s Trump versus deep corruption and in this narrative many Democrats have had their votes stolen too and it hurt. Bernie Sanders fans cried when he lost preselection to Hillary. The Occupy kind of Democrat was driven by the sense that something is deeply wrong with “the system”. The Party Machine on both sides of politics looks corrupt to the end. This could be the one factor where parts of the Left and the Right can agree on something. The Swamp has to be drained.

Speaking of the Deep Swamp: Powell wonders how much the CIA knew and if the Hammer and Scorecard system may underlie the Dominion software as developed for Hugo Chavez.

So follow me down this tantalizing path of speculation. If the Democrats used electronic voting to rig things in the Primaries in 2016, how could they not have used it in the 2016 national election? If so, this puts the epic scale of the Hillary loss in perspective. Not only did she have the media and pollsters on her side, but the cheating software too. She didn’t just think she was going to win, she knew she would. Then when she lost, perhaps it made sense to shout The-Russians, The-Russians, and wonder if the Trump team had just rigged things even more than she did.

 

We can only guess, but Hammer and Scorecard once apparently had a 3% limit on vote switching — presumably to avoid detection. Perhaps in 2016, the 3% rigging just wasn’t enough and the Trump vote took them by surprise. The night ran away from them and Trump was accidentally declared the winner too quickly.  Then Hillary and the Dems spent the next four years alleging foreign interference. Remember Hillary’s warning to Joe: Whatever happens don’t concede on the night? 

And of course, it explains why the DNC could put forward two such truly awful candidates in a row. Neither could draw a crowd, but it didn’t really matter.

There is a deep irony about legislation designed to interfere with foreign elections being used to interfere with their own domestic ones.

Other Powell claims:

  • Georgia is “extremely bad”. It’s the first state she’ll “blow up”
  •  35,000 votes were added to every Democrat in one state and she says “she’d bet” every Democrat candidate across the nation.
  • Votes were weighted so that a Biden vote was worth, say, 1.25 compared to a Trump vote of 0.75.
  • allegedly Mr Kemp and the Secretary of State in Georgia are “in on it”, with a $100 million dollar deal to Dominion.

The votes are recorded in decimal points. We found that out last week, but let that sink in. How is it that votes in the US should be anything other than whole numbers?

9.7 out of 10 based on 60 ratings

267 comments to “It will be biblical.” Corruption so big even some Democrats will object

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    ImranCan

    Am watching very carefully because indeed it could be a story of biblical proportions. If there really is evidence out there I am assuming it’s just a matter of waiting for exactly the right moment. But why keep tantalising everyone with a ‘wait for it’ line ? Why not just get it out …. or keep very quiet and then let release it all. What’s the strategy here ?

    [Original Comment #1 and 20 replies about site speed and loading was moved to Weekend Unthreaded #13. Thanks for the feedback. We have switched off an ap that may have been causing it. Please refresh Shift_Ctrl+R or Shift_F5. Sorry all nested comments had to be moved in a group. – Jo]

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      David Wojick

      They cannot release the evidence before trial. They can talk about it but not show it.

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        Jojodogfacedboy

        If it was President Trump, they’d have all kinds of invisible fairy dust evidence….hmmmm reminds me of something…oh ya, 3 or 4 years of Russian Collusion accusations without proof.
        But the media made it sound like fact based reporting.

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          Jojodogfacedboy

          The mainstream media in Canada are getting caught embellishing on this Pandemic crisis by stating how packed and backed up some hospitals are…problem is that citizens now have their own cellphones and cameras to catch their lies when they try to be specific on the hospitals.
          Need to keep everyone locked down for this minor virus.
          Even President Trump caught it and it wasn’t a big deal that this media has blown way out of proportion.

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            Saighdear

            Hoh, like the UK idiots in the MSM too. Hope they will choke well after it all. Schadenfreud can’t be felt strongly enough …. but I am NOT counting my chickens. Just look at what’s happening here with Covid & Boris & his filly.

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        Sidney Powell is NOT on the Trump legal team it was announced this afternoon.
        Or she was never on the official Trump legal team.
        Or she is a crackpot who loves face time on the news.

        There’s not enough time to prove election fraud to change the November 3 election but there is enough time to prosecute people and gain some control for the January run-off election in Georgia. Or else the fraud in Georgia will set new records. Democraps will win by any means necessary.

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          Democraps will win by any means necessary.

          Hey, maybe they planted Powell as a way to distract attention away from the real fraud. Those Democrats sure are wily.

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        Graham Richards

        Trump has always maintained that you never tell your enemies what you’re actually doing, nor do you even give them a hint of when you’ll do it. You never tell them anything that’ll give them even a hint of what is coming.
        It worked in the fighting with ISIS & others in M.E.!

        Wonder how many extremely nervous Democrat officials, MSM personnel there are??

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    I have not come across any credible explanation (other than the obvious) as to why the Democrats won’t co-operate. This surely is the smoking gun. The US is looking increasingly like that respectable family with a dark secret that no one wants to talk about. The Swamp (including the MSM) is going shoosh!! Donald, we don’t talk about those things in public.

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      PeterS

      That’s a good analogy. The trouble is all other Western leaders are in it too. I do hope to see them all get tons of eggs on their faces once the truth comes out for all to see and not be possible to ignore any longer. That’s assuming all these stories coming out so far that the election was stolen are true. So far all we can do is wait for the evidence to be presented at the courts. Then and only then can we finally see the depth and spread of the fraud. If it’s as bad if not worse than what we fear then all hell will break loose in the streets of US. That’s the next fear.

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      Greg Cavanagh

      It’s been known for decades that dead people vote. It’s so ingrained that it’s a running joke that everyone is in on.

      But it does point to real fraud somewhere which nobody wants to know about. Just how does someone who’s been buried for 10 years still vote? Clearly somebody is filling in those ballots.

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        PeterS

        That’s only a small part of the alleged fraud. The major part is the flipping of the votes from one side to another. The system is flawed and open to fraud. All that is needed to do is prove that is the case in the Supreme Court and the whole election can be rejected and nullified. Then they have to fall back to the single voter per state process to elect the President, which will be Trump. That’s how it is explained by various legal experts. Let’s see if they can prove that to the Supreme Court. It should be fairly easy because the Dominion voting system has been proven to be vulnerable to fraud. Whether fraud was actually committed on a scale large enough to swing the election is not necessarily the point, but they might be able to prove that as well. Let’s wait and see.

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        markx

        It’s been known for decades that dead people vote.

        I’m sure we could always find a few.
        Unfortunately the few the Trump campaign found have all been debunked.

        C’mon, you guys know that this story cannot possibly be significant, and bringing up such a minor and badly researched claim when you know you “have the server” 🙂 just completely reinforces the impression that there are a whole bunch of people out there busy making up detailed cr#p to feed you.

        CNN examined 50 of the more than 14,000 names on the list by taking the first 25 names on the list and then 25 more picked at random. We ran the names through Michigan’s Voter Information database to see if they requested or returned a ballot. We then checked the names against publicly available records to see if they were indeed dead.
        Of the 50, 37 were indeed dead and had not voted, according to the voter information database. Five people out of the 50 had voted — and they are all still alive, according to public records accessed by CNN. The remaining eight are also alive but didn’t vote.

        https://edition.cnn.com/2020/11/08/tech/michigan-dead-voter-fact-debunking/index.html

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      why the Democrats won’t co-operate

      simple. There is nothing to cooperate with.

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    Harry Passfield

    Jo, if this turns to cow-pat I do hope you will survive it. These b’strds will go for anyone. If they can protect Hunter and his father, not to mention the Dem’s fifth reich, no-one is safe. We will all have to take the knee – and be sniffed.
    (you deserve a medal, Jo!!!)

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      Greg Cavanagh

      The level of protection is indeed epic. Weinstein, Epstein, the Clintons and the Clinton Foundation. The FBI, CIA, judges, the MSM, and it seems the majority of the government itself.

      Such utter corruption at every level. They don’t need to coordinate, it’s become the natural order of things.

      If they don’t do a good thorough clean up of this system, the citizens will do it the old fashioned way.

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      PeterS

      Not sure what you are referring to. Are you saying that Jo’s blog will be under attack if the left take complete control of the Western world? If we ever get to the point like it is in China and NK where internet traffic is monitored and censored then we will have to move to an alternative means of communicating with each other. I’m certain we will find a suitable means.

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        Greg Cavanagh

        I’m keeping my ear to the ground for another internet protocol to develop. It seems inevitable that a shadow web will eventually form. We can have the commercial version for web pages and business, and an underground one for chat and politics.

        Either that or VPN will become so popular that it itself will be outlawed or come under control of the governments.

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          William

          I have downloaded the Dissenter web browser with Duck Duck Go as my search engine. The only issue is that it is not updating Jo’s posts in a timely fashion, with the 1775 story being the most recent.

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          PeterS

          Anything that goes through the existing internet routers will be of no use to us, even with VPN. They will be able to trace the packets to determine where they are coming from to block what is required. They don’t care about what’s in the packets, only where they are coming from. Perhaps one can set up a sophisticated site that uses high-quality VPN to evade the blockers by dynamically shuffling around the world where the packets appear to be coming from. I doubt that would still be enough to evade the hard core CIA types to block.

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        John R Smith

        I came back here ’cause I think it might be one of the the last redoubts.
        Although I have no clue about the level of censorship in OZ.
        Is Jonova avoiding trouble by focusing on American politics?
        My impression is that OZ has already been overrun by the same G-list horde that is about to trample us.
        Brexit looks like a joke.
        Canada … Fidel junior.
        When they’re done here, they’ll tidy loose ends down there.
        But I am a mushroom.

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    Peter C

    The story keeps getting bigger and bigger.
    Sidney Powell is incredible. She is trying to pull her cases together for multiple court filings but she also spends hours of every day giving interviews.

    The two NewsMax anchors are almost incredulous, but they do note each point that Sidney makes so that the viewers get each one.

    Meantime our Australian papers have mostly completely ignored the story. The Weekend Australian gave the US election one whole page (page 15 of the main paper). Two articles by Cameron Stewart and one by Michael Mathies were openly hostile to the election fraud story. Each allegation is introduced then interspersed with commentary to negate the claim.
    A fourth article by Cameron McWhiter and Alexa Corse announce that Biden is the ‘President Elect”. He is regarded as the President elect based on counts and projections by AP (Associated Press). They use the terms manual recount and audit in Georgia interchangeably, even though they are not the same thing.

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      RossP

      The media will be as big a loser as the Democrats if Team Trump win. Pollsters are already dead and buried !!

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      Analitik

      Ignored? Far from it. Our MSM (ABC and SBS in particular) go to great lengths to report how Trump is continuing to make “baseless accusations” of electoral fraud.

      I SERIOUSLY want Sidney Powell (and by extension, Rudy Gulliani and Donald J. Trump) to be proven correct over time so I can watch the backtracking that the talking heads would be forced to make; in particular, the vacuous announcers like Tamara Oudyn and Janice Petersen plus political “correspondents” such as Lara Tingle and that ultimate muppet of wokeness, Wahleed Aly.

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        Kalm Keith

        Walheed Aly pays no respect to the historic building of this country by generations of hardworking people.

        Not having watched T.V. for several years I’ve been spared having to see it in operation and when the face is occasionally put in front of me on internet searches I pay no heed and move on quickly to avoid throwing up.

        The Epitome of Woke, whatever that might mean.

        KK

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          Keith
          I have given up TV as a source of news. Occasionally I go on the ABC or Channel 9 and immediately get angry and make complaints over inaccuracy, lying or misreporting. Both are so biased as to be a joke.

          I look back to the past when newspaper editors and TV managers prided themselves on accuracy. Todays TV news is so frequently non factual as to be worthless. At least on the internet I have regular reliable sites I go to, and get the news I need.

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      Peter C

      I just went back and looked through the articles on page 15 of the Weekend Australian again to check if the allegations of rigged electronic voting machines was mentioned specifically. No it was not. They referred to ‘baseless allegations’ and mentioned some possible dead people voting and an electoral counting officer.

      So No reader of Australian newspapers can know about this huge story! There is a total blanket cover up. Why?

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      Ian

      She’ll have more spare time now that’s she been given the flick by Trump although she may get a lot less attention than she has been used to of late/

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    Another Ian

    Around this area

    “SDA regular ‘ET’ shared some brilliant thoughts this morning. Everyone should carefully think about what she had to say:

    Is it just that the population have chosen ‘communism’ or that the population are so manipulated that they really are not choosing but instead are pawns in an enormous power-grab?”

    More at

    http://www.smalldeadanimals.com/index.php/2020/11/22/featured-comment-9/

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    Richard Ilfeld

    Deep Breath! Vote fraud has been an integral part of the US election scene for many years.

    Paraphrasing Johnny Rocco: “It doesn’t mater who they vote for. You just take the ballots into the back room and count them, and you count them
    and count them until you get what you need”. Watch the movie. Key Largo, Humphrey Bogart, Edward G Robinson, 1948. In those days, the mob owned the vote
    in the big cities. Whether it’s buying an election, or stealing an election, or manipulating an election for purposes of racial discrimination “vote fraud”,
    that is elections that are not free and fair, have been with us forever. And thousands, literally, of small local officials have paid fines or done time, because
    small scale fraud has been proven in court.

    But look, if 100% of Americans know the Democrats are going to get huge majorities in, say, California, regardless of the execrable performance of the party in power; the fraudsters know they can get away with it. And there is a time limit, they only have to bob and weave around the law for a couple of months and then its a done deal….their guy or gal has the
    power, and life will go on.

    In some places, the system will get cleaned. In some places, the other side will learn to cheat just as well. and in some places, the bad practices will persist, against the
    will of the voters, for generations. You might know where they are by driving through, except nowadays many are virtual no-go zones for folks like me.

    Sidney was right about General Flynn; study that case and its still not decided outcome carefully.

    Decide what you are going to do if fraud can be demonstrated to your satisfaction, with public data, disclosure and even some favorable court decisions, and the swamp ignore this
    completely. Like it ignores and evidence on climate change and proceeds as if it were real….Like it ignores evidence on the impact of minimum wages and proceeds, like it ignores Chinese behaviour and proceeds. What is our strategy, fellow speed bumps?

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      RickWill

      If 6bn people can be deluded over the “greenhouse effect” fairy tale, it is trivial to delude the 30% or so of American voters needed to swing an election.

      I doubt there would be a handful of Australians aware of the potential issue with voting machines. There is no legacy press reporting on those aspects here.

      I note in #10 below that Sidney Powell’s comments on voting parallel so much of the climate fraud.

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    Binny Pegler

    On one hand I’m looking at this and thinking ‘No way’ On the other hand Jo was onto the corona virus months before it blew up in the news network faces.
    I’ve asked about the return envelopes before, it seems they have been kept. But there is resistance to doing an audit, mainly because no one wants risk what they will find. 1% mismatches and the election has to have a do over, because there’s no way to tie the ballot paper to the envelope and not way to tell ‘good’ votes from ‘bad’. I see the race card has been played minorities, don’t know how to sign their names.

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    David Wojick

    I love Powell’s zeal and it sounds like they have a great case, but keep in mind that this is a trial. Every bit of evidence will be attacked in depth by the defense expert witnesses. The legacy press will side with the defense, calling it a crazy conspiracy theory, as they already do.

    The first rule of litigation is every trial is a crap shoot. We should win but we can lose.

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    RickWill

    Listening to Sidney Powell on the voting system gives the impression that the scale of fraud is similar to that in Climate Change. Reality has gone missing.

    What could be simpler than counting paper ballots! Then there is these automated counting systems that create opportunities for programmers to change the result; a fraudster’s perfect match.

    The idea that there is a “greenhouse effect” has achieved a level of currency so far beyond reality that it is incomprehensible for me. It is not science.

    There was a recent thread that talked about deprogramming 75M Americans. To get reality back into the current understanding of climate would require educating about 6bn people. They have been misled on a biblical scale.

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    Simon

    So follow me down this tantalizing path of speculation.

    In other words, this is all been made up. Facts and proof please, not what-ifs.

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      Greg Cavanagh

      Do you purposefully read the opposite into everything that is stated?

      Surely even you Simon must be suspicious of some of the events that have unfolded. Putting up barricades so that poll watchers can’t even look into the room? A van pulling up at 4am in the morning and dropping off 120,000 ballots with 98% Biden votes in the pile? The computer system which was purposefully built do rig an election in a foreign country, being used within America?

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        Analitik

        Simon must take the MSM feed as pure, objective, factual reporting

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        Ian

        I can only speak for myself but as far as I am concerned given that the dictionary definition of speculation is “the forming of a theory or conjecture without firm evidence” there can be only one interpretation of “follow me down this tantalising path of speculation”.

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          Exactly. Dictionary Definitions indeed. Honest and upfront.

          You are free Simon to explain why the hypothetical didn’t happen, but I see you are still learning English.

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      Small Footprint

      Like every case (bar one) this is going to fail and fail spectacularly viz https://edition.cnn.com/2020/11/21/politics/pennsylvania-trump-lawsuit-dismissal/index.html

      petulance, lies and misdirection are not working

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    nb

    When I arrive at the page I see only one or two comments. If I post a comment I get to see more. Richard Greene, comment #1, says ‘I blame the Russians’. That’s not what the science says. The science says it is caused by climate change.

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      Another Ian

      IIRC

      In John Steinbeck’s “Travels with Charlie” there was a situation where he suggested that blaming the Russians” become “Blaming the Democrats”

      And on “Blaming the Democrats”

      “On this, the 57th anniversary of Dallas, we’re reminded that had it not been for Democrat voter fraud in the 1960 presidential election there would’ve been no #JFK riding in an open air convertible for Lee Harvey Oswald to assassinate. https://t.co/uC9FOOO7oi

      http://www.smalldeadanimals.com/index.php/2020/11/22/i-amuse-myself-14/

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        Chad

        I hope Steinbecks source for 1960 voter fraud was more reliable than his source for info on the assasination of JFK.
        Aswald’s involvement has been disproved multiple times.

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    Scott

    Hi Jo,

    Installed DuckDuckGo and had to search for the website to see the last few stories, otherwise I have been stuck on 15 comments for this story. https://joannenova.com.au/2020/11/teh-battle-for-the-republic-this-is-the-1775-of-our-generation/

    Someone really doesn’t like you reporting on this

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      Another Ian

      Does #1.2 help?

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        Scott

        Thanks Another Ian,

        when I posted there was only one comment on this page so never saw it until just now

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        PeterS

        It helps but it’s the solution. Jo, you need to get things working properly for all users, especially given the current crisis developing in the US.

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          PeterS

          I meant to say “It helps but it’s not the solution”, which brings up another point. We need a better blog service that allows users to edit/delete their own posts.

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            Chad

            …and has a better topic post structure with index and search capability ?

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              PeterS

              Yes that would be useful secondary features, but the ability for users to edit/delete their own posts is paramount, not to mention the problem at hand with a dysfunctional blog that fails to display correctly for a significant proportion of users.

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                I moved site comments to Weekend Unthreaded #13, and Switched off what I think was causing the problem. So hopefully the site will work more normally again. Though it may be slower.

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                Sceptical Sam

                Perhaps if we all threw in a 100 bucks or so before Christmas, Jo might have some added resources to help her deal with the problem.

                Mouth. Money. Put.

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      RickWill

      I am now using DuckDuckGo as a search engine. Google was doing some STRANGE things. I expect there is an overhead to all the monitoring for advertising and censoring that is slowing down the result.

      I use Safari as the browser and this blog has worked OK this week. It was a mess last week as I could not get updates for three days. I tried Chrome and it was the same result.

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      tom0mason

      As another search engine alternative to Google try https://www.startpage.com. The advanced seach allows you to easily tailor your search terms.

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        dadgervais

        Not a solution! I’ve used Firefox and Startpage on Linux for years for security reasons, but Startpage is affiliated with Google, and beginning last week I started having the same problems as many of you have reported. I only started seeing posts and comments from the last three days when i cleared the cache and changed my home page and default search engine to DuckDuckGo this morning. The Deep-State is even deeper than I realized.

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    David Maddison

    My concern is that even though President Trump’s case has merit, the whole legal system is so corrupt and dominated by the Left that no effective remedy will be obtained.

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      PeterS

      Then as pointed out before that’s what the Second Amendment of the US Constitution is for.

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        David Maddison

        Agreed, which is why if the Marxists are successful in their coup they’ll be immediately targeting the First and Second Amendments. The First has already been destroyed due to the actions of the Billionaire Socialists who control social(ist) and the legacy media. The Second can be done through legislation such as already done in New York City and State where it’s already almost impossible for law abiding citizens to exercise their SA rights. The provisions of the Constitution are simply ignored. Let’s hope Americans don’t have to exercise those rights, however, and hope it can be resolved in the courts.

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      I’ve been waiting for this.

      1. Make up a case.
      2. Lose in courts.
      3. Blame courts.

      This presidency has done nothing but blame others. It will be a relief to have someone in office who is accountable.

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        PeterS

        4. Second Amendment.

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          el gordo

          They should get rid of the Second Amendment, it was framed over 230 years ago and is well passed its used by date.

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            David Maddison

            It is as valid now as it was then. It is the ultimate reset button for the Constitution and also makes it clear that “the people”, not the government, are the ultimate holders of power in the United States. No one will be packing off Americans to death camps anytime soon due to this wonderful and unique Constitutional provision.

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              The people with the guns you mean – way too easy for a well armed minority to usurp power.

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                Russ Wood

                I have an image of a Revolutionary soldier, with the text: “Legal gun owners have 400 million guns, and 24 trillion rounds of ammunition. If we were a problem, you would know already!”

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              David Maddison

              The Second Amendment is there because it is symbolic of the fact that the whole concept of the United States is that “the people” and not the Sovereign or the President, PM, Government or military have the ultimate power. The people are not slaves or serfs.

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            Greg Cavanagh

            Defend against all enemies, foreign and domestic.

            It’s pretty clear; and not going out of date anytime soon.

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            PeterS

            Why? You like dictatorships to take over a nation and run wild?

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              el gordo

              Australia is fine, while our cousins across the big lake should think about the dysfunctional nature of US democracy in the 21st century.

              Nobody wants to take over America by military force, the Second Amendment needs to be scrapped and a gun buy back program instigated.

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          given that you didn’t amend 1. then 4. is the sort of thing I’d expect next.

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        Neil Crafter

        Accountability from Joe Biden? That’s a good one! Pull the other one it plays Jingle Bells.

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      Ian

      I think the legal system bases its actions on evidence. As Mr Trump appears to have none of any legal significance he can hardly expect to have the judiciary on his side

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    Richard Ilfeld

    I installed a rather old version of Opera, that most “smart” sites report needs to be updated, but that loads this site just fine.
    Sort of like a plain old home thermostat might work “better” than a smart one connected to the power company via the internet.

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    RossP

    This article has two videos showing how easy it is to play around with the voting machines and counting machines. The problems are not new as they explain.
    The second video has a guy who bought two used voting machines online and he goes through the hardware finding security issue within seconds of opening them up.

    https://100percentfedup.com/breaking-video-dominion-spokesperson-claims-votes-cant-be-flipped-watch-hacker-demonstrate-how-easily-voting-machines-can-be-forced-to-change-votes-in-1-minute/

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    Tel

    The votes are recorded in decimal points. We found that out last week, but let that sink in. How is it that votes in the US should ve anything other s than whole numbers?

    I doubt they are recorded as fractions, however many people are looking at the edison data time series where they only have the total votes and then the percentages. For example like this:


    {
    'timestamp' => '2020-11-06T18:23:36Z',
    'eevp_source' => 'edison',
    'vote_shares' => {
    'trumpd' => '0.479',
    'bidenj' => '0.505'
    },
    'eevp' => 99,
    'votes' => 5530390
    }

    If you want the trumpd votes you need to do:

    5530390 * 0.479 = 2649056.810

    However, for the edison data for overall totals per county those votes are integers again. It’s only an artifact of the time series data. People are looking at this stuff simply because it’s easy to obtain and it documents the rapid midnight swing from Trump to Biden which is what looks so suspicious.

    https://www.edisonresearch.com/election-polling/

    That company does exit polls and also provides data for the news reporting, and that’s why this particular dataset is widely available. It’s not an “official” part of the election process.

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      crakar24

      Incorrect Tel, they are initially recorded as an integer and then converted to a floating point number. You see you cant times an integer by 0.75 or 1.25 hence the conversion. Ergo the conversion to floating point indicates fraud

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        Thanks to both of you. I want to get to the bottom of the decimal places, so anyone with insight is welcome to comment.

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          crakar24

          The example above:

          5530390 * 0.479 = 2649056.810

          If 5530390 is an integer the answer would be 2649056 no decimal point and no 810

          By the way i have seen negative numbers in spread sheets if the smartmatic SW can produce negative numbers then it can also convert integers in 2’s compliment.

          For example did it take 10K votes integer from trump and add 10K votes integer to Biden or did it subtract 10K votes 2’s compliment from trump and add 10K votes integer to Biden?

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            crakar24

            My last comment was not very clear:

            If you have vote tallies say 10000 and 5000 these are integers, if you want to subtract them then you need to convert them into their 2’s compliment (the most significant bit is the sign bit) ergo give them a sign.

            So 10000 minus (-)5000, CNN clearly shows Trump total in PA decreasing by 19958 votes the only way that could have happened would be if the SW converts the data into 2’s compliment and as detailed above also into a floating point number. These machines are far more sophisticated than they will lead you to believe.

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              Tel

              The time series data is for display purposes only.

              They are selling election reports to news media … none of it is official. Thus they do things like kicking out the small percentage that Jo Jorgensen won, and rounding off the fractions to the nearest three sig figs.

              Thanks to the round off you cannot multiply it back out to get the precise integer result. It’s wrong by approx 1 part in a thousand.

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                crakar24

                there is no round off you dont get less than one vote!!

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                Tel

                There is a round off, every time the data is used for graphical display. You cannot plot a graph precisely to 7 significant figures … no device can show this and anyway your eyes cannot see that resolution.

                Suppose I held up a stick and the length of that stick was 1000mm exactly, then I held another stick which was only 999mm long. That’s a difference of 1 part in a thousand, or 3 significant figures. Could you tell me which stick was longer? Probably not.

                I’m trying to find a way to explain that these numbers are not intended to be the original votes, and never were. That’s what “display purposes” means.

                Lets suppose we have those numbers:
                TOTAL VOTES: 5530390
                TRUMP PERCENTAGE: 47.9%
                BIDEN PERCENTAGE: 50.5%

                Then along comes just 1 more vote, yes a whole vote not a partial vote. What happens to the total?

                5530390 + 1 = 5530391

                Yay! The whole vote shows as one whole vote in the total.

                What happens to the percentages? What will change if that was a Trump vote vs a Biden vote?

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          Mikky

          The software is general purpose (Dr Shaviv said so), and it allows votes to be weighted, which is something you might do in a vote for a block of flats, weighted by (say) floor space. The weights for elections would be set to 1.0, converting vote counts from integers to floating point numbers. That may be the innocent explanation of decimal points.

          The software configuration file for the election should have been stored, it should give the weights used.

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    David Maddison

    Comments by Mark Levin.

    https://www.marklevinshow.com/2020/11/22/this-obama-judge-in-pennsylvania-is-outrageous/

    This Obama judge in Pennsylvania is outrageous

    Posted on November 22, 2020

    This Obama judge in Pennsylvania is outrageous. I read the complaint. It was full of affidavits and serious constitutional issues that absolutely overcame a motion to dismiss. There was unquestionably a reasonable basis in fact and law to proceed, and to allow the Trump campaign’s lawyers to conduct immediate discovery. This is a miscarriage of justice. And the judge’s opinion reads as if it was written for the media. The problem the Trump campaign is facing now is the unwillingness of judges to actually do their jobs, certainly in this case, and certainly in the case of the U.S. Supreme Court, where the chief justice failed to do his job and uphold Article II, Section 1, Clause 2 of the Constitution, which states explicitly that the state legislatures, not judges or governors, make election laws. I hope the Trump campaign seeks an emergency appeal to the circuit court. But I am increasingly worried about the judiciary buckling to the media and Democrat Party pressure. After all, it is a lot easier for a judge to kill a case then take it up and follow it through, particularly in these critical cases.

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      Seedy

      Pennsylvania’s Republican Senator Pat Toomey responded to the ruling by Judge Mathew Brann, ” saying Mr Trump had “exhausted all plausible legal options” to overturn Joe Biden’s lead in the state.
      and
      “With today’s decision by Judge Matthew Brann, a longtime conservative Republican whom I know to be a fair and unbiased jurist, to dismiss the Trump campaign’s lawsuit, President Trump has exhausted all plausible legal options to challenge the result of the presidential race in Pennsylvania,” said Mr Toomey.

      Jo it seems that the post election discussion here is a fact free universe.
      And frankly very boring.
      It’s sad to see the blog reduced to this.

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        David Maddison

        Even though that judge does have apparent solid conservative credentials such as once having been an official in the Republican Party, and once having been involved in the Federalist Society and the National Rifle Association, the fact that Obama appointed someone with such conservative credentials implies he no longer thinks along conservative lines.

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          Ian

          “the fact that Obama appointed someone with such conservative credentials implies he no longer thinks along conservative lines.”

          It is far more likely that he was appointed by Obama because Obama was able to recognise his capabilities. This is of course in direct contrast ro President Trump who appoints sycophants and then dismisses them when they fail to provide the requisite fawning and oleaginous praise.

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        Kalm Keith

        Seedy,

        Sorry to hear that you are disappointed so why don’t you go and plant yourself somewhere else.

        If you tell us where you’re planted I’m sure we could arrange visits to make sure you remain well watered.

        All the best.

        KK

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          Seedy

          Keith you and all your fellow denizens of this foggy hollow
          Have a right to your opinions.
          However this blog once was a useful source of real information about important issues
          Like ‘Climate Change’ & ‘global warming” the BOM, the GBR, the ABC
          And the Corona Virus.
          Now it has become a Cheer Squad blog for trump.
          Now that’s real pity.

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            Kalm Keith

            You still don’t get it.

            This mess IS the core of Climate change.

            Politics, control, money.

            Crimate Change is a science free tool for the elites.

            KK

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            Ian

            Spot on Seedy I’m with you. The blog once was a place where science was presented and discussed rationally and respectfully. It is at the moment a travesty of its former self as it panders to the right wing Conservatives who believe that they and only they are the bearers of the truth

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              Ian, Seedy, you are welcome at any time to provide data or relevant arguments.

              There is no science if rampant voter fraud goes through without consequence.

              Science is a monopsony funded by the government. If the government has no accountability, then government funded science is nothing more than a propaganda tool. That has been the case in the stale and stuck climate science rut for 25 years or more, but now all areas of science and every important aspect of life faces the same censorship and cancel culture as climate science.

              That’s why the only issue that matters in the science world now is whether corruption in the election process will have any consequences.

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              Kalm Keith

              Cant
              Really
              Accept that
              Proposition

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        bobl

        President Trump has exhausted all plausible legal options to challenge the result of the presidential race in Pennsylvania

        You may be right and this may be true but the Senator did say “In Pennsylvania” this doesn’t preclude the possibility of a supreme court intervention. The fast dismissal in Pa does open a quick path through the appeals court to the Supreme court. If I understand the US judicial system.

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        RossP

        We still have not had the follow up of the SC decision, prior to the election, where the Justice said any votes after 8.00pm had to be separated so they could look at the issue after the election. The way it all went they have probably been all mixed together. I’d be surprised if the Justice would be happy with that and could easily just say remove all votes added to the total after 8.00pm and settle it from that.

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          Given that they likely backdated ballot and added late ballots to early ballot piles and without observers present I cannot see how they can unscramble this egg.

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    PeterS

    Some time next year when the dust has all settled, we will look back at this time and the coming weeks with much amazement. Regardless of which way it all falls, the Western world will be a completely different place. Things have already gone too far to pretend it won’t. Obviously, it’s too early to tell what that will be but mark my words, it will be very different. I hope it’s for the better but only time will tell.

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      David Maddison

      If the Marxists win in the United States, the future of life in the Western World living as slaves for the benefit of the Billionaire Socialists is barely worth contemplating. Or we could become slaves to the Chinese Socialists. At least we have a choice….

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        Small Footprint

        Marxists now is it, just for fun, can you explain why there are marxists, socialists, and communists, and why they are different, because you seem to have no idea that what they are and what their philosophy is.

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          David Maddison

          They are all variations on the same theme. It makes little difference if they are described as Marxists, socialists or communists. Perhaps you are the one that needs to learn about them? As Ayn Rand said:

          There is no difference between communism and socialism, except in the means of achieving the same ultimate end: communism proposes to enslave men by force, socialism—by vote. It is merely the difference between murder and suicide.

          “Foreign Policy Drains U.S. of Main Weapon,” The Los Angeles times, Sept. 9, 1962, G2

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          Kalm Keith

          It just depends on the time of day.

          Early morning they’re referred to as Marxist.

          About lunchtime they’re seen as Socialists, and when it gets dark, the designation becomes Communist.

          And after dealing with that all day you have really bad nightmares.

          KK

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          PeterS

          Evil is evil not matter which of those labels you prefer to use. But then again people in such groups don’t believe in evil, or flip the definition to mean the opposite using their relativism nonsense to alter the meaning of words to suit their agenda.

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            Small Footprint

            I see, so everyone in Sweden is evil? They run a self proclaimed socialist government.

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              David Maddison

              Nonsense. It is a myth that Sweden is socialist. They wouldn’t be relatively wealthy unless they had substantial capitalism to produce the wealth to tax and provide a welfare state not dissimilar to most others in Europe. The dream of a socialist utopia in Sweden ran from the 1960’s to 1994 during which time wealth creation mostly stopped then they returned to the capitalist path.

              https://fee.org/articles/is-sweden-socialist-no-but/

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                Small Footprint

                digging yourself deeper. Capitalism has nothing to do with the way the government runs a country. democracy, socialism, marxism etc are philosophies about how a society is organsied.

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                Gary Simpson

                The way a society is organised is a direct result of the way it is governed and vice versa.

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        el gordo

        ‘Or we could become slaves to the Chinese Socialists.’

        It doesn’t work that way comrade, China is not cultivating slaves, they are moving toward a two party state and the total elimination of poverty.

        Beijing might be upset with us now, but we can deal with the heathens and they will let us be.

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    David Maddison

    I wonder if the Useful Idiot slaves of the Billionaire Socialists will ever become aware of the huge crime against the United States and Civilisation in general that they have participated in?

    Probably not, because if their coup against the United States is successful, they will be among the enforcers working for the Billionaire Socialists. The Useful Idiots will still be required.

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    David Maddison

    It wasn’t overnight that the Left came to inhabit the Swamp. It’s been a concerted program for decades. Donald Trump made a super human effort to remove the Swamp creatures, but even Superman can’t function in the presence of Kryptonite.

    I am however still hopeful for Trump 2020.

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      Serp

      “I am however still hopeful for Trump 2020.” As am I.

      Trump being re-elected stymies the Geriatrics’ Reset to a future of perpetual serfdom for the Anglosphere and on that basis alone is an absolute necessity; moreover he will continue to harry that overweening international bully the PRC.

      You’d think that these members of the globalist mini task force whose cavilling posts litter Jo’s blog would be astute enough to comprehend that they are advocating tyranny, an end to a world in which the doctrine of live and let live is active. Ah well, each to his own (while we may).

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    Graeme P.

    I hope the Kraken is released soon because I’m starting to fear it might just be a cuttlefish with delusions of grandeur.

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      PeterS

      We should know soon enough as time is running out. If it turns out that Trump’s legal team is just all hot air then it will be the end of Trump. If on the other hand it is all true then it will be the end of Biden. Stay tuned!

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        Ian

        But how for how long will the Trump legal team exist? Sidney Powell is now off the scene, thankfully. Who will be nex to be axedt?

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    nc

    The Trump organization now seems to be backing away from Sidney Powell. Whats with that?

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    Lachlan

    https://twitter.com/andrewfeinberg/status/1330638725362163712?s=21

    INBOX: @RudyGiuliani and ⁦@JennaEllisEsq⁩ have officially thrown Sidney Powell under the bus: “Sidney Powell is practicing law on her own. She is not a member of the Trump Legal Team. She is also not a lawyer for the President in his personal capacity.” pic.twitter.com/Z1vcRelYFe— Andrew Feinberg (@AndrewFeinberg) November 22, 2020

    I sometimes wonder if you’re trolling us and just pretending to take these Trump clowns seriously.

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      PeterS

      So what? You are jumping the gun. If they can prove in the courts what they are claiming to be true is true then it’s game over for Biden, and he might even go to prison in due course along with others. If on the other hand they can’t and it’s all a whole lot of hot air then Trump will have to leave, either to run for the next election or go back to what he was doing before.

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      crakar24

      And your point is? You must be very scared and extremely desperate to be clutching at straws this flimsy

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      Peter C

      I just read that. I am astounded if it is true. Sidney Powell is the front person for the whole Trump legal challenge.

      What does it mean?

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        Kalm Keith

        I need some betel nut.

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          Chad

          How much would you like ?
          I have a few hundred kilo’s falling around my plot !

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          Kalm Keith

          Chad
          I only ever tried it once.
          Crushed through the skin and felt like I’d been given an instantaneous transfusion of half a bottle of scotch.

          Powerful isn’t the word.

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            Chad

            You give ne an idea !….
            I have been wondering what to do with this continuous crop of bat attracting nuts…..
            Maybe i could distil them into a “Bettel Nut Gin”: for the trendy cocktail market ?

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        Ian

        It means she got the flick and is no longer toughed front person and possibly, that the whole Trump edifice is about to fall.

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      David Maddison

      It’s difficult to find an impartial news report that doesn’t involve severe Trump bashing but apparently it’s true that Sidney Powell is no longer considered part of the Trump legal team, either for Trump personally or the Trump Campaign.

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      yep. Trump has dumped the kraken.

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      markx

      That pretty well cuts the guts out of most of the recent posts on this blog eh?
      Apparently the kraken was a cuttlefish with delusions of grandeur, and since he quietly died, they decided they did not like the smell.

      The Trump campaign is disavowing its association with attorney Sidney Powell after the far-fetched Trump campaign Thursday press conference when she claimed without evidence that the deceased Hugo Chávez, among others, was responsible for rigging the election. The campaign claimed that she “is not a member of the Trump legal team,” even though the president and Trump attorney Rudy Giuliani had previously identified her as being on the team.

      “Sidney Powell is practicing law on her own. She is not a member of the Trump Legal Team. She is also not a lawyer for the President in his personal capacity,” said a statement from Giuliani and Trump campaign senior legal adviser Jenna Ellis.

      Powell issued this statement to CBS News:

      “I understand today’s press release,” she said. “I will continue to represent #WeThePeople who had their votes for Trump and other Republicans stolen by massive fraud through Dominion and Smartmatic, and we will be filing suit soon. The chips will fall where they may, and we will defend the foundations of this great Republic. #KrakenOnSteroids”

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        In the world where Trump never loses (he never lost 30 cases, they were not official Trump team cases) or never loses in a fair fight, she had to go before she lost.

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        William Astley

        It is logically over when it is over. There are two scripts concerning what will happen.

        You are reading from the Dems script. It has been superseded. Trump will not give up, Why? Why will Trump never give up? Why is Trump fighting what seems to be a certain losing legal battle? Poor old guy standing alone. What does Trump know that we do not? This is kind of like a movie script.

        The Trump ‘campaign’ is staying to the US Military’s script. Trump is buying time for the Military to complete sufficient investigations to arrest and get quick convictions when they go public in January. The second script is to be announced when the Milt announce their findings.

        From the Milt’s standpoint it is absolutely essential that their team must be organized when they go public with a couple of their investigations.

        No one except US Military now have access to the Frankfort CIA server. The Military are investigating the Frankfort server and developing their plan of action. Trump is at arms length to the Military’s investigation.

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          el gordo

          ‘The Trump ‘campaign’ is staying to the US Military’s script.’

          The gang of four stopped Donald bombing an Iranian nuclear power plant. He was miffed and would have sacked the lot of them, but they took away his red button so he knew the game was up.

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        Ian

        “That pretty well cuts the guts out of most of the recent posts on this blog eh?”

        It certainly hasn’t enhanced them that’s for sure but I doubt if anyone will admit Powell was a lot less value to Trump than she or they, believed

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      Brenda Spence

      It doesnt say she has been dropped. Lin Wood is working independently too.

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      markx

      Link here:

      https://www.cbsnews.com/news/sidney-powell-trump-legal-team-disavows-association/

      I have a feeling Sidney Powell also had delusions of grandeur, and got a bit too excited about the power of the ‘big lie’.

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    crakar24

    Can anyone tell me what this woman is doing

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4gdhlDsgz2E

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    David Maddison

    I received this in an email:

    Fast forward to about 16 minutes in as there’s a long interval of people waiting for things to kick off. Giuliani puts his case forward citing the various methods of voter fraud employed during the most recent election. Lots of commercials and it’s a long recording, but the message needs to get out.

    The leftist message is that there is no evidence of voter fraud, including from the CBC. Giuliani presents multiple instances of evidence, and makes his case to demand that it be investigated. Scary stuff.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sq7TeUJwQD4

    THIS IS A MUST SEE….

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      crakar24

      4 secs in (after 16 mins) and Rudy G says these people represent our legal team with SP standing behind him oh wait a second i think Lachlan above is as always FOS!!!! LOL

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      Brenda Spence

      Sidney Powell was definitely part of tha news conference. What has changed?

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        At the risk of sounding like a concern troll… my question is, did you have no doubts or skepticism about what she was saying?

        The acceptance of these multiple fantastic fraud theories boggles my mind. The fact that it leads people to suggest civil war as a solution is even more bizarre.

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          crakar24

          There is/was and still is skepticism GA, thats different to your approach of “well i have not seen any evidence therefore there is none” thats denial

          You can have evidence but still not win a court case or not enough to prove your case so you withdraw your case, many variables to this process. The problem is most eople are now nothing more than petulant children that demand this immediately and dont understand the process at hand.

          Another consideration is that old saying “More lies are told in court than out”

          Regardless of the result i believe the American are owed an explanation as to how/why hundreds of thousands of votes can be switched, swapped, disappeared and reappeared in a matter of minutes and i dont think the MSM approach of “It never happened” will cut the mustard this time

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            markx

            hundreds of thousands of votes can be switched, swapped, disappeared and reappeared in a matter of minutes

            Can someone please lay this out in a few easy tables, charts or at least links please?
            I’d very much like to examine this.

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            Ian

            Regardless of the result i believe the American are owed an explanation as to how/why hundreds of thousands of votes can be switched, swapped, disappeared and reappeared in a matter of minutes and i dont think the MSM approach of “It never happened” will cut the mustard this time

            The whole point is that were votes switched and or swapped? Did they appear and disappear?

            Is their incontrovertible evidence for any of that? Without it the claims have no veracity.

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          Kalm Keith

          Gee Aye,

          Civil war? How do you describe the horrific actions of the BLM and Antifart groups just before the election.

          America was being torn apart and this was mainly in Democrat states.

          That wasn’t war?

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            Ian

            “America was being torn apart and this was mainly in Democrat states.”

            Thagt’s because many black Afro-Americans live in democratic states

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          Evidence Please Please

          Gee Aye,
          Ockham’s Razor, some people will swallow anything so support their beliefs, the truth is just an inconvenience.

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    David Maddison

    Some more on Sidney Powell.

    https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/trump-legal-team-shuns-sidney-powell-as-insiders-and-national-security-officials-see-no-evidence-supporting-her-voting-machine-claims

    Trump legal team shuns Sidney Powell as insiders and national security officials see no evidence supporting her voting machine claims

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      Brenda Spence

      Its a worry.

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      now you have someone to blame. It doesn’t excuse your credulity though.

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      crakar24

      So whats the latest plan? Looks like we have exhausted the blind man approach of “there is no evidence of voter fraud” and are now trying to destroy the reputation of the person about to present evidence in a court of law showing voter fraud.

      Prediction: If it moves to the SCOTUS we will be inundated with fake news about Barrett/SCOTUS et al, If SCOTUS rules in republican favor then we will ignore ruling and the military arm of the Democratic party ANTIFA/BLM will burn the whole thing down.

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      Ian

      “Trump legal team shuns Sidney Powell as insiders and national security officials see no evidence supporting her voting machine claims”

      But the thread here on November 21 said “Flood of evidence of voter fraud c coming in the next two weeks.”

      “Powell: “we will start putting documents online this week”

      So what happened to this flood of evidence? Where has it gone? Did it ever exist? Why us it Powell that has gone along with the flood of evidence of voter fraud?

      How long will it take for these continual changes in the story to register on the minds of many readers? Is their refusal to believe that the evidence so far is negligible and constantly being reversed to naivity or s misplaced belief in Trump?

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    crakar24

    Just out of interest, a question to all

    GA stated (you raised an interesting point GA):

    At the risk of sounding like a concern troll… my question is, did you have no doubts or skepticism about what she was saying?

    The acceptance of these multiple fantastic fraud theories boggles my mind. The fact that it leads people to suggest civil war as a solution is even more bizarre.

    I would be interested to know just how mush of this is considered fantastic fraud theories:

    Do we accept Chavez could of rigged elections?

    Do we accept the CIA is most likely involved?

    Do we accept it is possible the same system could be used in other countries?

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      Crakar. Why do you use “we” as though everyone here is part of a team that acts as one. Maybe let everyone ask themselves those question without having to answer to everyone else.

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      markx

      Do we accept Chavez could of rigged elections?
      Do we accept the CIA is most likely involved?

      Absolutely Chavez was involved in rigged elections. Although the most likely scenario is he out-rigged the CIA, who have traditionally tried to be involved in every South American election, either by rigging them against those who they see as left-wingers (ie, those not supporting dominance of their economy by US corporations) or simply arranging and funding coups after the event.

      Yes, the CIA have gone to considerable trouble to carry this out in other areas of the world.

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    Stephen @Aus

    I feel sorrow and pity for you Jo, you have gone out on a limb attempting to defend the indefensible, only to have the Kraken and his fellow denizens of the cess-pit of his own making saw the branch off behind you with lies, innuendo and outright slander:
    https://mobile.twitter.com/nowthisnews/status/1329914781386616835?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1329914781386616835%7Ctwgr%5E&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fau.news.yahoo.com%2Fkayleigh-mcenany-latest-trump-lie-074850367.html

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    crakar24

    Powell has been suspended by twitter for 12 hours, this is how any normal democracy usually works of course.

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    Bonne Chance

    Sidney can’t provide the evidence because the Dems have hidden it so well.

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      Kalm Keith

      Are they really that smart?

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      Ian

      “Sidney can’t provide the evidence because the Dems have hidden it so well.”

      How can that possibly be true?

      JoNova’s thread of November 21 stated “So many American patriots have come forward Sidney Powell, one of Trumps senior legal team, can’t even put a number on the affidavits.”

      So how did the Democrats get this multitude of affidavits? Did Powell leave them in a taxi? On the bus? On her desk?

      When is going to dawn on the Trumpsters that Trump’s rhetoric and that of his campaigners has never been confirmed by any tangible evidence.

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    Phillip Sweeney

    Jo

    Not getting updated webpages on Google Chrome

    When I use Microsoft Edge I get the updates

    Cheers

    Phil

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    Lance

    Let’s just see what can be User altered in a Dominion system, shall we?

    https://www.sos.state.co.us/pubs/elections/VotingSystems/DVS-DemocracySuite511/documentation/2-03-EMS-FunctionalityDescription-5-11-CO.pdf

    Open to edit an existing ballot object. Any Role
    Associate one or more tabulators with a given voting location. Operator
    Data import and export from external systems. Configurable by User

    3.5.1.2

    In some cases, there is a need to manually type-in the election results. In this case, EMS RTR provides a manual data entry screen where the user can enter the number of votes (and other significant data, such as the number of overvotes, undervotes, etc.) for each choice and each contest on the ballot.

    3.5.2.2 Analyze A user will only declare election results files as valid if he/she does not identify any unusual data within the file. If the user spots any illogical data (i.e. too many overvotes), the user has the ability to reject the file. In this case, the file’s status will reverse to ‘rejected’. However, if results appear normal, the user will proceed with file validation.

    3.5.2.3 Validate File validation is the action in which a user declares an election file to be valid. This action will in turn change the state of the election file from ‘initial’ to ‘validated’, and at the same time, update the current result totals within the EMS Database. The results can be validated per selected tabulator (Validate option), all results can be validated at once (Validate All option) or validated and published (Validate and Publish option).

    3.7.6 Spoiling Batches Spoiling a batch is a last-resort remedy for completely removing an in-progress batch from Adjudication when there is something wrong with the batch.

    Just about everything has an over ride, can be deleted, invalidated, or changed.

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    Stephen @Aus

    Well, there goes Sidney Powell and her Kraken, cut loose and slithering back into the cess-pit that will be Trump’s only legacy:
    https://mobile.twitter.com/JennaEllisEsq/status/1330638034619035655/photo/1

    So Jo, so much for you saying: “I have great respect for attorney Sidney Powell, and I do not think she would risk her reputation by making false allegations…” …say that again…. slowly….
    https://joannenova.com.au/2020/11/i-am-going-to-release-the-kraken-trump-won-in-a-landslide-says-sidney-powell/

    Meanwhile, Maryland Governor, Republican Larry Hogan has said “that he thought Trump’s pressuring last week of state legislators “to somehow try to change the outcome” was “completely outrageous”.

    The US used to supervise elections around the world but was now “beginning to look like we’re in a banana republic,” Hogan told CNN’s State of the Union politics show.

    https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2020/nov/22/trump-republicans-pressure-fight-overturn-election

    How much longer will you continue to defend this narcissistic draft-dodging, tax avoiding, dangerous fraudster and compulsive liar, Jo? How do you come back from the path you have chosen to follow behind him into the pit?

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      John

      Please Stephen explain how (after watching the following) accusations of fraud through these voting machines is “completely outrageous”… Chanel Rion on “Dominion-izing the Vote” https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=746HTjhFifA

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      Meglort

      “Set up decoys and feign confusion, and give the enemy the impression we are about to quit our position. Then select our elite mounted troops, and send them on ahead into enemy territory under a cloak of silence.” (Sun Tzu, 5CE)

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    PeterS

    A lot of people jumping the gun here. Give it a little more time please. I don’t see the point of making a definite decision either way at this time. There is simply no way of knowing the precise details of what will be revealed at the courts over the coming weeks. Anyone who thinks they can is just being an idi0t. Not even those preparing the cases know it all yet. They are still collating, analysing and preparing their cases. So be patient. Sure, we can discuss what’s being announced over time but let’s be honest about all this and remain sceptical and open minded for a while longer until all the information is released and the courts have made their decisions.

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    Simon

    Sidney’s conspiracy theories have proved to be too crazy even for Giuliani and Trump. Her accusations weren’t blatantly false and never would have stood up in a court of law. Perhaps Jo will think twice next time before publishing unsubstantiated rubbish like this.

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      PeterS

      Is that your opinion or has Trump openly stated all that? Do you have a link if Trump announced that because I can’t fine one? All I can find is a statement below, which has nothing to say about so called conspiracies theories from Sidney:

      – November 22, 2020 –
      Trump Campaign Statement on Legal Team
      “Sidney Powell is practicing law on her own. She is not a member of the Trump Legal Team. She is also not a lawyer for the President in his personal capacity.”
      – Rudy Giuliani, Attorney for President Trump, and Jenna Ellis, Trump Campaign Senior Legal Adviser and Attorney for President Trump

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        crakar24

        I think you will find Powell is working on evidence for the executive order which needs to be finalised 45 days after the election, ergo you may not see her evidence in a court of law well maybe when people are on trial but the evidence will be used to execute the EO

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      crakar24

      Wow……just wow, you have any evidence to support your statement, of course not so why should i believe a word you say?

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        PeterS

        I think Simon is just pontificating, which I myself have done at times. From now on I just like to stick to the facts and not go down the road of conspiracy theories scattered all over with innuendos, suspicions and delusions. Is that fair enough to everyone? Otherwise, go somewhere else to play games of peek a boo. This is supposed to be a blog for serious discussions based on factual evidence, and I like it to stay that way. There are plenty of other sites where conspiracy theories can be blurted out ad nauseam.

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      Hanrahan

      Simon, a personal question if I may: What do corrupt politicians who promote globalism have on offer to you?

      I assume most here are “middle class”. Globalists and democrats have the middle class in their cross hairs. Obama shrunk this group, Trump restored some of the displaced, it was always his aim.

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        Ian

        I reckon I’m middle class. I’m a scientist with a PhD two sons a mortgage and a, small, research team>Personally I think YTrmp has been a total disaster and his actions at the moment could well lead to civiil unrest and disobedience. He and hs tgesam have so far not backed up any of their rhetoric with checkable facts. Yet readers here still believe their v=narrative. Amazing?

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      Lance

      Separation of venues and claims. Go to law school.

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      Simon

      Sidney alleged that the two top Republicans in Georgia – Gov. Brian Kemp and Secretary of State Brad Raffensperger were taking payoffs as part of the conspiracy. She had to go.
      Trump is down 0 – 34 deep into the second half.

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    Apparently, going on the official (whatever that means) numbers, Trump increased his vote by 10 million. Can someone point me to a website that actually looks at that please. I would like to see a chart along the following lines, preferably not including California and New York because they don’t mean anything.
    Trump Clinton Total
    2016 xxxx xxxx xxxx
    Trump Biden Total
    2020 xxxx xxxx xxxx

    For me, credibility hangs on this. A situation where the incumbent increases his vote by 20% or so and yet loses to perhaps the most lacklustre opponent in many years surely warrants some scrutiny.

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    RossP

    Lot of people jumping to conclusions here about the Sidney Powell matter. There could be all sorts of reasons for it BUT it will not be because the Trump Team do not believe what she has said. If that was the case Trump would have conceded and THAT IS NOT GOING TO HAPPEN.

    General Flynn’s son has tweeted he thinks it is to do with funding –each team has separate funding channels.
    It could also be so Sidney can release information which the Trump Team may have issues with releasing at this stage.

    But it probably is a classic Trump distraction play.

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    Peter C

    Howell Woltz lays out some of the evidence and makes a prediction.
    https://richardsonpost.com/howellwoltz/19022/hey-soros-meet-americas-new-president/

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    Peter C

    I’m not tired of winning yet

    Donald Trump!

    Direct uncensored quotes from Donald Trump here at the gab;
    https://gab.com/realdonaldtrump

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    David Maddison

    I’ve never seen a satisfactory explanation of the true reason Zuckerberg donated a total of US$400 million toward the election infrastructure. Surely that should rightfully be wholly the domain of the government? How can a private individual be allowed to contribute to a government operation and why?

    https://justthenews.com/politics-policy/elections/mark-zuckerberg-donates-100-million-election-security-after-300-million

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    Hanrahan

    Could it be that Dominion Systems are nothing more than a gun for hire?

    If so there is no reason to believe many GOP senators and congressmen haven’t been the highest bidder for their services. These swamp creatures would be front of the line demanding that Trump concede lest their own phraud be exposed.

    Speculation on my part of course.

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    RossP

    I don’t know how to link tweets but Sidney Powell has put out a message (via an associate because she is on a 12hr ban from Twitter) which put all the conspiracy theories to bed.

    ” I agree with the campaign’s statement that I am not part of the campaign’s legal team. I never signed a retainer agreement or sent the President or the campaign a bill for my expenses or fees.

    My intent has always been to expose the fraud I could find and let the chips fall where they may –whether it be upon Republicans or Democrats.

    The evidence I’m compiling is overwhelming that this software tool was used to shift millions of votes from President Trump and other Republican candidates to Biden and other Democratic candidates. We are proceeding to prepare our lawsuit and plan to file it this week. It will be epic.

    We will not allow this great Republic to be stolen by communists from without or within or our votes altered or manipulated by foreign actors in Hong Kong, Iran, Venezuela or Serbia, for example, who have neither regard for human life nor the people who are the engine of this exceptional country.

    #WeThePeople elected Donald Trump and other Republican candidates to restore the vision of America as a place of life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness.

    You may assist this effort by making a non tax-deductible contribution to http://www.DefendingTheRepublic.org #KrakenOnSteriods

    Sidney Powell”

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    Mike-SMO

    This is not a video download with potty breaks and breaks for snacks. I have it on good authority that there will not be a half-time show or costume malfunctions. The Democratic Media is screaming but the actual players are quiet since if “you” know, “they” know. General Soleimani probably wished he knew the plan before his airport “accident”. Have patience. All will become clear. Just because this all may involve the end of life in our Republic as we have known it doesn’t mean you get to peak at the script. Chill!

    Thank you, Jo.

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    KevJ

    So has the over dimensional, non defined binary human, uttered melodious, musical modulations?? 😉
    Or is there more to come..

    Appreciate your site Jo.
    Thank you.

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    OldOzzie

    UPDATED 8:23 PM – K A B O O M! Governor and Secretary of State in Georgia Took Money From China (To Steal Election from Trump)
    NATION


    HAL TURNER
    22 NOVEMBER 2020

    UPDATED 8:23 PM EST See Bottom — Georgia’s Republican Governor Brian Kemp and the Georgia Secretary of State Brad Raffensperger both allegedly took money from Communist China, perhaps to intentionally THROW or STEAL the November 3 Election in that state, to Joe Biden.

    According to very high level sources from my years working National Security Intelligence with the FBI Joint Terrorism Task Force, the feds have PROOF of the payments to both Kemp and Raffensperger.

    The Trump election legal team forced the President to WAIT before revealing this, until both Kemp and Raffensperger CERTIFIED the Election results.

    According to those same sources, once Kemp and Raffensperger CERTIFIED the results, their crime was complete. Both men certified those election results this week. By law, Mr. Raffensperger was obliged to certify the election results before 5 p.m. on Friday. Gov. Kemp, had to then certify the results by 5 p.m. on Saturday. Both men did exactly those acts.

    The implications of this revelation are staggering. First, that a sitting REPUBLICAN Governor would stab his Party’s President, and our nation, in the back, for a foreign government, is utterly horrifying. People are already asking ” My God, what could they have offered that he would sell out his own people? His own country?”

    That a foreign nation would DARE to pay money in order to rig or steal a U.S. Presidential Election is . . . a casus belli (Cause for war.) China appears to have tried to STEAL our freedom by STEALING our Elections. War is justified.

    Again, the national security intelligence sources with whom I have spoken, assure me this information is solid and the proof is already in government hands.

    MORE . . .

    Georgia Governor Brian P. Kemp ordered state agencies to buy from Chinese Lenovo and interlocking vendors on Mar. 28, 2019, undermining U.S. sovereignty, the citizens of Georgia, and the 2020 election

    The interlocking vendors include members of Obama’s Technology Council and members of the IBM Eclipse Foundation (incl. Chinese Tsinghua University) that stole the invention of social networking from Columbus-OH-based Leader Technologies, including IBM, Dell, EMC, HP and NetApp.

    THESE SYSTEMS WERE USED IN THE 2020 GEORGIA ELECTION!

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      Greg Cavanagh

      Bla bla bla. The FBI aren’t credible anymore.

      They had proof that Flynn wasn’t guilty. They’ve had Hunter’s lap top for 10 months. They did nothing with Epstein for 20 years, and they did nothing about him dying in Federal Prison whilst being guarded 24/7. They’ve done nothing about Clinton selling uranium to the Russians, or her private server, or her deleting 32 thousand emails etc.

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    OldOzzie

    ***** BULLETIN *****

    UPDATED 8:23 PM EST —

    Intel sources now also confirm that “Other Governors, Secretaries of State, State Election officials, County Election officials and even several big city Mayors also allegedly received payments from Communist China and those payments have been tracked as well.”

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      crakar24

      Could it be? Could the Kraken have is first victim LOL.

      Lets wait and see

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      RossP

      I think the statement about Sidney Powell today has something to do with this. They had to make it very clear that RNC HO was not funding Sidney’s attack on the Georgia Republicans at the top. She said yesterday Georgia was going to be the first place she would “blow up”.

      In effect they are “distancing” themselves from Sidney to allow her to do the work they WANT her to do.

      This is also where the Executive Order of 2018 comes into play !!!

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      Peter C

      Thanks Old Aussie.

      IF this is true the theory that Trump set a trap for his enemies is starting to grow some legs.

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    David Maddison

    It has been suggested that Sidney Powell was not fired by Trump but by making it clear that she doesn’t work for him but is an “independent”, that allows her to persue certain other legal actions that couldn’t be done if she was seen to be working for him. I’m not sure what actions they might be, however.

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      David Maddison

      Sidney Powell has her own legal defence fund to unleash the Kraken.

      It could be an incredible smart move but I don’t know what she and Trump have in mind.

      https://defendingtherepublic.org/

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        PeterS

        All I care about is one or both get to the bottom of all this and uncover the truth. The US dare not gloss over this election as though everything is fine. Clearly it’s not. The question is how dodgy is it? They need to find out whatever it takes.

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    David Maddison

    I came across this interesting Q and A.

    QUESTION
    Was Benjamin Franklin only referring to a war when he was quoted saying, “a Republic…if you can keep it?”

    ANSWER
    Franklin’s reference had nothing to do with war. He was familiar with political writings, including Polybius on the Roman constitution, and Aristotle’s politics.

    Aristotle argued that a strong dictator can establish a dynasty, leading to monarchy. The monarch’s descendants, relatives, and in laws all push for a share of that power. Monarchies are unstable and may lead to aristocracy. As the aristocracy expands through marriage, etc. a sort of Democracy may be reached. Once the population realizes they can vote themselves the treasury, there may be a breakdown in government. Sooner or later a new tyrant establishes order, starting the monarchy- aristocracy- democracy cycle all over again.

    After showing flaws in Athenian democracy, Carthagenian oligarchy, and the Spartan dual monarchy, among others, Polybius argued that the Roman constitution was the best of all possible governments. They combined elements of monarchy in the power of the consuls, aristocracy in the power of the senate, and democracy in the judicial and voting power of the citizens.

    Polybius’ arguments were persuasive to Frenchmen of the enlightenment period, and to Americans who wrote our Constitution, which ALSO contained elements of monarchy in the power of the President, aristocracy in the power of the Senate, and democracy in the House.

    As Ben Franklin knew, Polybius’ ideal republic collapsed in the next century or so, resulting in civil war, and ultimately the dictatorship of Julius Caesar. What happened before could happen again.

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    Peter C

    Amazing Polly has been deplatformed by You Tube but has her own website.

    She adds some new angles. This story has more loose ends than a tangled fishing line.
    http://www.amazingpolly.net/

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    crakar24

    This is for Aussie Pete (well everyone really) i put it here as he may not see it up thread

    Go here

    https://pastebin.com/gfdRQgeS

    Example from Michigan here

    https://static01.nyt.com/elections-assets/2020/data/api/2020-11-03/race-page/michigan/president.json

    Hope you are good at stats LOL

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    Louise

    Powell has said she continues to work this case and that she will file in court next week. Is that correct?

    So the only thing that’s changed is an official position representing The POTUS. The statements from both seems to be in accordance and mutual. I don’t pick up any rancor at this stage.

    Maybe this does afford freedom to pursue a case without constraints?

    She’s made some pretty big allegations, saying both Democrats and Republicans may be guilty of using the system to secure election outcomes. Any review of what went on must be without fear or favour.

    She has been less than complimentary about the CIA and talked openly about their use of Hammer and Scorecard to interfere in other countries elections. Can’t imagine CIA would be thrilled to have that revealed, if true. Obviously scathing also of FBI as a result of Flynn’s case. Keep in mind she’s a private lawyer, not a political appointee. She won’t be interested in covering anyone’s backside, irrespective of side.

    I think we need to see what happens this week. It’s still only Sunday in the US and only 3 weeks since the election in a multi-state challenge. Gore took 37 days for one state challenge.

    There are a few cases to be filed this week and I recall they were aiming for Wednesday – Friday. Others that are making their way to the Supreme Court, as expected, and why having ACB was a crucial achievement in case of deadlock.

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    crakar24

    How dominion works

    https://imgbb.com/h1x3Xds

    Data downloads

    https://gofile.io/d/qZcQl6

    Awwwww thats not evidence LOL

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    wokebuster

    Robert Barnes explains the reasoning behind the distancing from Powell.

    https://m.youtube.com/watch?feature=youtu.be&v=YYJUjkpjZbo

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    CHRIS

    I have but one thing to contribute to this discussion…Abraham Maslow

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    Blueytoo

    The weighted race feature and fractional voting wont be fully understood until someone leaks the code from the voting system.

    My guess is this. A swing in a marginal electorate is only a small percentage 0.5-2%. So if the boting system tweaks the result by 1%, it is invisible like the white collar criminals harvesting cents. A vote for red could count as 0.99 and a vote for blue as 1.01. A rounded total looks normal on a minute by minute count, but the overall total ends up with a 2% margin tweak. If race is close the total will look real. If its a landslide, the a few manufactured votes are required to permit the tweak to be bigger and the total vote count to look real and survive suggested audit.

    Given the Dominion patent holder has a PhD in maths, it is likely the tweaks could be way more sophisticated.

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