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Hypnotised by media hate. Donald Trump is a polarising, divisive, sexist, racist (don’t watch these videos).

Is there anyone online that hasn’t seen angry Democrats rioting, and beating up voters who made the “wrong” choice? In the land of meaningless slogans, this must be what happens when Love Trumps Hate. Presumably they are teaching Hitler’s disciples a lesson. As Mark Steyn says, every Republican candidate is called Hitler, and when everyone’s Hitler, nobody’s Hitler.

Around the world many people remain baffled as to how 60 million US citizens could vote for the sexist, racist, trash talking Trump.  In one survey only 4% of Germans said they would vote for him. Here in Australia I don’t know the numbers, but The Flummoxed are everywhere.  Thank the media for the one-dimensional caricature they sell.

Things are so bad here that The Sydney Morning Herald (SMH) put out a story saying there were “reports from Trump Tower in New York on Tuesday evening” with crowds of thousands chanting: “We hate Muslims, we hate blacks, we want our great country back”. Michael Smith found a tweet pointing out that their entire source for this was a guy who runs a known parody account on Twitter @sRowntreeNews. Smith clocked up the screenshot, sure that the newspaper would correct their inflammatory uber embarassing mistake in minutes. But hours ticked by with nothing. Tonight, long after Smith did the last update on his site, apparently the SMH page has gone 404. Is that it? Will the SMH let their readers know, or leave the entirely false impression out there to fester in the minds of people looking for an  excuse to get violent?

Twitter has suspended @sRowntreeNews.

Here’s a view of Trump and blacks you won’t see on the ABC / BBC / CNN

These video shorts, give us some idea of how different the story could look if 96% of media donations were going to the Trump campaign. Granted, all these videos star people employed by Trump, so run that through your mental filter as you watch. Bias, bias, bias. But the narrative they create is a parallel universe to the one running in the mainstream press.  These adverts (I assume they are ads)  are great examples of the power of editing…

It follows that if the media had higher standards, we’d get better politicians. The media IS the problem.

We can’t force the media to do the right thing, but we can make sure people are aware of the bias. We can teach our children to seek out both sides of every story.

William Campudoni’s story about how Trump hired him off the street, gave him suits and said “welcome to the family”.

“The film was made by political filmmaker Lucas Baiano without the backing of any political action committee or major donors because he felt like the story needed to be told.”

 – Breitbart

Black Trump Supporters Explain Why They are Voting for Trump

I like this sentiment from the woman doing most of the talking here:

“We’ve got to stop thinking as black and white and purple and Arab. We’ve got to start thinking as Americans.”

Brunell Donald-Kyei

The divisive people are the ones dividing by race.

Brunell Donald-Kyei, is vice-chair of the National Diversity Coalition for Trump. Probably Australians would have never seen anything like her on any of our “national talk programs”.

______________________________

Trump the sexist-racist hires non-white woman as executive.

She seems pretty happy about it.

How to dehypnotise a nation?

Scott Adams, the creator of Dilbert, writes about  De-Hitlerization and also has suggestions on on ways to dehypnotize. Sounds like some fun party tricks, though Adams is not suggesting you wear Trump T-shirts and try these out in dangerous neighborhoods.

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      Mark D.

      Ivan, I didn’t think I’d like it at first but it’s good.

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      Radical Rodent

      Please do not forget that Trump is not the president yet – his inauguration is a full 2 months away. A lot can happen in 2 months. And that worries me.

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        Rereke Whakaaro

        I presume that he already has Secret Service protection already?

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          Rick Will

          Yes – he thanked them in his victory speech. From memory praised their professionalism and smarts. Most of his victory speech was praise and thanks for all the people in his team; mostly singling them out and telling how they had contributed. It was about them not him.

          Maybe this was politicking because it has been reported that Hillary treated her official protectors with disdain:
          http://www.angrypatriotmovement.com/secret-service-confirmed-this/

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          Vlad the Impaler

          Once a person declares their candidacy for President, they are assigned a level of Secret Service protection. There were once some dozen or so Republican candidates, and all would have had some detail assigned to them, until such time as their candidacy ended.

          Same for the Vice-Presidential candidates; once nominated, they receive about the same level of protection as the nominee who chose them.

          Speaker of the House, President of the Senate, and cabinet officers (nominated and serving) all receive very high level protection.

          Many, many years ago, when Richard Cheney was serving as Wyoming’s lone Representative, I attended a luncheon where he was speaking. As best as I could tell, there was a single agent present; there may have been more, but I could only zero one in the room. Generally speaking, Wyomingites tend to like their public officials. Do know that our motto is, “Welcome to Wyoming. Consider everyone armed.”

          Regards,

          Vlad

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        cedarhill

        Recall how Obama created his own “Office of the President-Elect”. Trump might do that but the equations are very simple. The GOP, especially the ones currently serving, are not going to “cave in and compromise” with Obama even it that’s the charade they would play. That would be 100% political suicide.

        The real issue is how Obama can further screw up the world by doing spiteful things like getting the UN Security Council to condemn Israel. Then there’s the possibility he could do a Bill Clinton and pardon all Democrats now living.

        Other than that, he’ll be giving speeches to prepare to be the “loyal opposition” that the media will quote likely every day. He’ll return to his roots of community socialist activitist along with William Holder to further stir up his signature accomplishment – racial hatred in America.

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        Mari C

        Dems are more afraid of Pence, he’s not well admired even in his state. And even if both are out, the next in line is well and truly hated.

        Trump will make it, and maybe he’ll do some good – if he doesn’t get grief Just Because.

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      Gary in Erko

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      If I was Trump …..

      If I was Trump I’d spend a few thousand million setting up and enhancing small businesses and industries in towns across the country. Send experienced management crews to research and assist what’s going on and what can be established to suit local resources. Timber. Agricultural co-operatives. Subsidise local medical support. Transport to markets. Call it an investment in a second term. Do it through a genuine charity trust to gain tax write offs. Pitch in to the country’s well being. Redefine the present’s office to be like an altruistic old world squire.

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      Leo Morgan

      Thanks for that, ivan.
      It’s a great read.
      I recommend it to all of us.
      I was wrong to say all the Pro-Democrat media were clueless. Here’s one guy who understands his opponents. I disagree with his conclusions, but he’s someone you can have a rational conversation with. And he makes some of the points BETTER than his opponents.

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    Analitik

    My 11 year old daughter has been telling me how so any of her friends are sad/mad that Trump won the US election. When I asked why, the major reason was him wanting to build walls.

    I took the time to explain to her that the wall would have doors where people could be be let in once you could see who they were and it was like the difference between leaving the front door of the house open or having it locked. Hearing that, she thought that a wall was OK.

    One step at a time.

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      PhilJourdan

      Might want to also tell her that the Whitehouse has walls. And Mexico is building a wall – on ITS southern border

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      ua nau ke ea o ka aina i ka pono This phrase was first spoken by Kamehameha III, the King of Hawaii, on July 31, 1843, on Thomas Square, Oʻahu….
      Some of the words contained in this phrase have greater, more difficult to define meaning than is commonly ascribed. Mau, for example, implies an unending continuation; Ea means not only “life”, but “breath” and, more importantly, “sovereignty”.[4] Pono is a well-used Hawaiian word that cannot be concisely translated. It includes aspects of goodness, excellence, fairness, order, propriety, completeness, care, value, organization, purpose, and hope.[4]

      this phrase is the Hawaiian state motto and Hawaii is thought by some to be in the usa, while some realize it is simultaneously in deep water, alot of deep water

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        ua mau… –that is

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        KinkyKeith

        Come on Dunn, don’t leave us in suspense.

        What’s happening there.

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          KinkyKeith

          Autocorrect, Dinn.

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            KinkyKeith

            O.K.

            I read that but didn’t get anything to work on ?

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              ocean is deep in many places, life is deep in many places, parts of politics go into the cosmos, some of the cosmos is incoming, China is deep basically, the surface of things is often illusion.
              review a bit of Tolkien, see whether it is purely a work of fiction, if you like; better yet, do some rock climbing or a long hike, visit Singapore and see the new Interpol bldg there; whatever. if you have time.

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                KinkyKeith

                O.K.

                Starting to get the picture.

                Is there something about the politics of Hawaii that is at odds with the rest of the U.S.

                Been there aces times and enjoyed the gentle surf at Waikiki but can understand how its population could have different views to the mainland.

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                KinkyKeith

                Autocorrect

                A couple of times

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                past waikiki, mate
                11/12/2012 by Dane Wigington: Why would the Rothschild’s be so interested in owning the largest and most recognized weather modeling organization out there? Why would E.L. Rothschild LLC wish to have the controlling interest in the worlds leading provider of interactive weather graphics and data services for television, web, and mobil? Because when you are involved in climate decimating geoengineering programs, you must also control the “forecast” models to cover your tracks.

                The scope and scale of the global spraying of our skies can hardly be comprehended. SAG (stratospheric aerosol geoengineering) and SRM (solar radiation management). The massive web of supporting structures for these programs is mind bending. What is even more difficult to understand is how all of this happens in plain sight, and almost none seem to connect the dots.

                Defense contractor “Raytheon” does all the “forecast” modeling for the National Weather Service and NOAA. Lockheed Martin does the modeling for the FAA. Since both of these private defense contractors are up to there necks in weather modification patents and programs, the “forecasts” are more or less the “scheduled” weather. Now, with the Rothschild’s acquisition of the dominant private modeling organization, the control of weather “modeling” seems complete. This control of “forecasts” and “graphics” provides for the constant visual conditioning that makes the population more likely to accept the constant spraying and manipulation of our weather as “normal”. When the nightly weather “forecast animation” matches what the public sees in the sky, right down to the upper level “haze” or “overcast” from the constant spraying, all seems to correlate, so nothing more is questioned. When the “forecasters” predict a hurricane will make an unprecedented 90 degree turn, and it does, nothing seems wrong. When they say there will be “heavy wet snow” at 40+ degrees, and there is, all appears OK. The global elites have, it seems, “covered all the bases”.

                Rothschild_LogoE.L. Rothschild LLC Acquires a Majority Stake in Weather Central, LP

                Sir Evelyn and Lynn Forester de Rothschild’s Firm Sees Opportunity for Growth in Multi-Platform Weather SolutionsCompany

                NEW YORK–(BUSINESS WIRE)–E.L. Rothschild LLC, a private investmentcompany led by Chairman Sir Evelyn de Rothschild and CEO Lynn Forester de Rothschild, today announced the signing of a definitive agreement to acquire a 70% interest in Weather Central, LP (www.wxc.com). The world’s leading provider of interactive weather graphics and data services for television, web, and mobile, Weather Central’s highly accurate and personalized forecasting offers businesses and consumers a truly unique suite of science-driven weather information products. http://prepareforchange.net/2015/12/15/how-the-rothschilds-and-monsanto-control-global-climate-engineering/

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        Len

        Hawaii has the Union Jack on their flag.

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      nc

      Also there are sections of the wall already built. Did Obama tear them down, nope. Ask the city of El Paso if they want their wall torn down?

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      Dennis

      Point out that China built a wall a long time ago and since not one Mexican has entered China illegally.

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    KinkyKeith

    Anti Trump riots in the USA being shown on TV are indicative of a generation or two which has had little contact with reality apart from their smart phones and pop culture.

    With some luck Trumps new administration may have them all working at something useful within a year.

    Idle minds.

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      Vlad the Impaler

      An apt description: “Idle minds.”

      They’ve never had to use them (their minds) so they are easily duped. I’m not sure they’ll know what to do if they ever have to actually use those minds.

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        KinkyKeith

        Idle minds are easily en-trained by the next noble cause that some politician invents;

        the main beneficiary may appear to be the recipient of the “compassionate action” but always the real beneficiary is the pollie.

        The media generation have no background from which to assess the community they live in and so are left to be easily led away from a more sensible path.

        I’m writing a lot of rot tonight. Maybe I need a sleep.

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          TedM

          “Idle minds are easily en-trained”. unfortunately not so easily re-trained as to be productive rather that destructive.

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      Mark D.

      KK, what I’d like to know is first, how many of these rioters are also the illegals here (therefore worried) and second how many are paid to be doing this?

      Decent working people would not have the time to waste acting so childishly. Clinton should be ashamed and the first one to publicly denounce these troublemakers. She likely won’t, the Media won’t.

      A spanking is what they all need……

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      Svend Ferdinandsen

      What kind of peoble are these students?
      Have they ever heard of democracy and how it is done the best way.
      According to some reports the students have never been confronted with views outside their eccochamber. Deviating views was not allowed to confront the students, so it must have been very terrifying to find out that half the voters had an other agenda.

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        Rereke Whakaaro

        … students have never been confronted with views outside their echo chamber.

        It is an artifact of social media. Everybody tweets and re-tweets within their social group, and quickly arrive at a consensus. The consensus is formed by people not expressing ideas that might appear to be “off the wall”, and counter to the evolving consensus. It is self-censored in that way.

        It is an attribute of the herd mentality that we inherit from our ancestors as part of the fight or flight instinct.

        Clinton used it to convince people that any vote that was not for her, would be a wasted vote; and nobody wants to waste their vote, do they? People clambering for the “total” vote, to over-ride the Electoral College, are using the same psychological techniques, because they want their vote to count.

        Trump on the other hand, talked to people about what he would do, to better their lives, and he started several such threads depending on which different audience he was addressing. Each thread “went viral” for each audience that could identify with the message.

        And we all assume that we are the sole arbiters of what we think, and believe? Sorry folks.

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          Mark D.

          Social media is so much better than socializing don’t you think?

          I’m heading to my local tavern to have dinner and socialize.

          No MEDIA required!

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          Raven

          Yeah, and here in Oz we see people arguing that a particular party only received xx% of the primary vote and therefor don’t have a mandate for whatever they are arguing about.

          The same tactic is used to divide and shame, also.
          How often do we hear that Oz will become backward or a pariah nation on subjects ranging from ‘tackling’ (love that term) climate change, marriage ‘equality’, human rights and many more.
          Barry Obama tried this angle over Brexit telling the Brits they would be at the end of the line on trade.
          It’s a guilt trip.

          It’s as if self determination is OK provided it’s perfectly aligned with some one else’s idea of self determination.

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        Yonniestone

        Bill Leak sums up the current plight of democracy perfectly http://cdn.newsapi.com.au/image/v1/a992f09ff9abc33261210f79429d9b29 :)

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          Rereke Whakaaro

          Very sad. And unfortunately, very true.

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          Ross

          For obvious reasons ( see who the letter is addressed to) we saw this in NZ news papers/sites

          https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/richard-dawkins-and-other-prominent-scientists-react-to-trump-rsquo-s-win/

          Dawkins is held out as a “great thinker” and yet he comes out with this, talking about Brexit and the USA elections :

          “The two largest nations in the English-speaking world have just suffered catastrophes at the hands of voters—in both cases the uneducated, anti-intellectual portion of voters.
          In the one case, by the xenophobically inspired severing of painstakingly built-up relationships with European partners; in the other case by the election of an unqualified, narcissistic, misogynistic sick joke as president. ”

          The guy seriously needs help !!

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            KinkyKeith

            Tragic

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            Grant (NZ)

            Dear Richard Dawkins

            We don’t need people like you in New Zealand. You need to get a dose of reality, and the best place to acquire that is where you are right now. Hold tight! You will eventually confront reality.

            Love New Zealand

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            Rereke Whakaaro

            Dear New Zealand, you are a deeply civilized small nation, with a low population in a pair of beautiful, spacious islands.

            You get marks for finding the reference to New Zealand in an Atlas. Also, you get further marks for copying and pasting the text correctly.

            You care about climate change, the future of the planet and other scientifically important issues.

            Do we? What is your source for that information? We certainly care about science, but science is based on careful observation, precise measurement, and a deep understanding of the mechanisms involved. We observe very little empirical science, but a lot of politics, when it comes to climate change.

            Why not write to all the Nobel Prize winners in Britain and America, write to the Fields medalists, Kyoto and Crafoord Prize and International Cosmos Prize winners, the Fellows of the Royal Society, the elite scientists in the National Academy of Sciences, the Fellows of the British Academy and similar bodies in America. Offer them citizenship.

            An interesting question. But I am inclined to test the implied benefit, by also testing the counter question: “What could a group of cloistered academics add to the already extensive and rich culture of New Zealand? Not much, I feel, especially in the field of climate change, which is not really an issue in our part of the world, except as a hypothetical talking point at dinner parties. Besides, with a population of three or four millions or thereabouts, we couldn’t afford to pay the taxes required to cover the combined salaries and perquisites of a group of academic climate modellers.

            The contribution that creative intellectuals can make to the prosperity and cultural life of a nation is out of all proportion to their numbers.

            To improve the prosperity of New Zealand we need to produce more meat, cheese, and vegetables, and the occasional blockbuster movie. Subjects that do not attract attention from the Nobel Committee. Besides, the majority of New Zealanders can read, and our per capita ratio of university degrees is higher than that of Europe as a whole. I think we can read sufficient scientific literature to improve our prosperity. We already have a culture, but thank you for offering.

            You could make New Zealand the Athens of the modern world.

            Yes, that would certainly be a risk that we should consider carefully. Have you experienced the pollution in Athens, recently?

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              Ross

              Rereke

              He obviously hasn’t heard about the state of the Greek economy. We need that like a “hole in the head.”

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                Rereke Whakaaro

                For all his theoretical qualifications, Dawkins is incredibly ill-informed about the real world, where the rest of us live, and sooner or later, die.

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                AndyG55

                I wonder if Dawkins have ever produced anything based on actual empirical evidence.

                Or is it just hallucinogenic based thought-bubbles buried by fancy wording.

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                ЯΞ√ΩLUT↑☼N

                Rereke:

                Very similar to Attenborough, Degrasse-Tyson, Brian Cox et.al. Either they’ve been brainwashed by the “democratic” media machine or paid off. Such a sad state of affairs when those you looked up to all those years suddenly go mentally bankrupt.

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              Grant (NZ)

              Dawkins and his ilk should accept the democratic results of Brexit and Trumpin as those who voted them in would have accepted the the results if the vote had have gone the other way.

              Many of those who voted Brexit/Trumpin would not have had the option of moving elsewhere in the world to find somewhere that suited their desired future. They have felt the oppression at the heel of the political elite and are not as privileged as the likes of Dawkins.

              For an intelligent person, Dawkins has a very low “social quotient”. These democratic results seem to have taken him by surprise – which brings his IQ into question in my mind.

              He should apply his intellect to solving the problems confronting his fellow voters.

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              Akatsukami

              New Zealand could certainly be made the Athens of the modern world. However, I suspect that most New Zealanders would object to their navy being destroyed and their country conquered and occupied by the army of a fascist oligarchy.

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          KinkyKeith

          A great pic.

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        clive

        And if it wasn’t for “democracy”,these”snowflakes”wouldn’t be allowed to protest.

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      Yonniestone

      KK I believe we are also witnessing the results of years of social engineering via the globalist ideology through pillars of society, the complete lack of empathy is something to fear amongst your own citizens especially when they won’t empathise with your views.

      This reactive conditioning has come about through the mediums mentioned and more so social activism which is far more difficult to criticise as it usually revolves around charitable fundraisers, helping the vulnerable in society is a good thing however this activism has infringed on athletic events that once gave accolades to people that displayed great physical efforts and competitive spirit.

      When you can condition a large number of people to wear the same clothes, chant the same lines, not question the ideal, then you have an impressive social militia at your disposal that ‘B’ would be proud of, I’ve encountered a few hundred socialists venting hatred at me through police lines but would dread to see a few thousand of the same mindset motivated by the state.

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    Ron Clutz

    Scott Adams insights into Trump, the election and the presidency:

    https://rclutz.wordpress.com/2016/11/10/trump-appreciation-the-wisdom-of-dilbert/

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      Bulldust

      I know I talked of this a few weeks back, but serves to repeat it here… Rubin Report interview with Scott Adams, in which the latter recognises Trump’s powers of persuasion:

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4AMV6SLT9KI

      63 minutes long but a lot of good content IMO. You can easily skip the Alt-Right discussion at the start as the interviews are generally spplit into topical segments.

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    redress

    An analysis you will not see on NOT MY ABC

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yhUXSX3ZnpE

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    Mark D.

    The Left are still reeling from the Right hook to the nose. They’ve just realized they are bleeding. In a moment they will hear the bell and have time to sit in their corner for some more coaching and ice on the face.

    What they do not yet realize is that right now, worldwide it seems, the Right has a weight advantage and a longer reach.

    I’ll be most happy when Soros and company lose their wagers in this match. When they have gambled and lost everything they have……….

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      ianl8888

      … when Soros and company lose their wagers …

      These people always lay off their bets. That’s why they run HEDGE funds.

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      Graham Richards

      I normally buy a news paper on Saturdays & Sundays, but now having seen the reactions to Trumps victory & the medias denial of reality I will no longer bother with the lefty lies & propaganda.

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    pat

    Barry Gibb told The Times newspaper on 30/9/2016 in an article titled “Dancing out of the shadows” by Ed Potton, that
    he is a fan of Trump’s and would probably vote for him in November. “I want to see a big character,” he said.
    he also said he had met Trump at a charity event in the 90s and found him “very pleasant. Behind this big, rich guy is probably a really big heart.”

    technically all three below haven’t been officially announced as yet but…check it out:

    PIC: Here are the first three members of Trump’s administration team
    Kellyanne Conway, Peter Thiel, Dr. Ben Carson
    How is he a woman-hating, racist, homophobe?
    Consider that the media lied about more than just the polls.
    https://i.redd.it/pzq40c9qjwwx.jpg

    anyone see the following on ABC or anywhere in our MSM?

    Kellyanne Conway Says She’s Been Offered a Job at the White House
    Townhall – ‎15 hours ago‎
    Kellyanne made HISTORY and the lame steam media doesn’t even want to give her credit for it! The first woman to successfully run a presidential campaign all the way to the White House! (and they claim Donald is sexist)…

    Kellyanne Conway shatters glass ceiling as first woman to run a successful presidential campaign
    Washington Examiner (blog) – ‎Nov 9, 2016‎

    10 Nov: CNET: Brian Bennett: Peter Thiel to enter Trump inner circle as tech adviser
    Although an informal arrangement for now, Silicon Valley investor Peter Thiel will have the incoming president’s ear.
    Thiel told The New York Times on Wednesday that he will have the president-elect’s ear on matters of technology and innovation at least as an informal adviser…

    Dr. Ben Carson: I’ll help Trump with Obamacare replacement plan
    Politico – ‎Nov 9, 2016‎
    Ben Carson says he’s still ironing out his role in the incoming administration of President-elect Donald Trump, but one thing’s certain: He’ll have a role in helping craft the replacement plan for Obamacare…

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      Raven

      Kellyanne Conway shatters glass ceiling as first woman to run a successful presidential campaign

      Hillary Clinton had a mock “glass ceiling” at her campaign HQ.
      The idea was to celebrate breaking that glass ceiling on national TV when she won the election. It would have been quite specular for sure.

      She should’ve invited Kellyanne Conway over to celebrate the sisterhood becauseI don’t expect there’s much call for second hand glass ceilings.

      I’m having a dig, of course, but wonder what Kellyanne would make of the glass ceiling thing. I imagine she doesn’t spend a lot of time thinking about it.

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    TdeF

    News.com.au is run by children and has been in total meltdown for two days. They are so cross! Their world is ending. Trump is the devil incarnate. Everything bad said about him is true he means the end of the world. Simple. How dare Americans elect someone who is not a Democrat! Still, you can choose not to read their childish stuff.

    What annoys is when we are paying big money for balanced independent reporting and we get the massive ABC bias, a group of 1,000 cossetted journalists who between them spend $1,300,000,000 a year on themselves and award themselves pay rises from other people’s hard work. As for their charter of balance, they just ignore it. There is only one opinion allowed at their ABC and they hate Trump and Abbott and BREXIT and love Climate Change and Malcolm Turnbull and the IPCC. A giant lovein where they take their big holidays across Christmas because they can. They have no boss and they are so exhausted from agreeing with each other and so much hating.

    Please someone needs to sell the ABC/SBS. It is so pointless, so wasteful, so irresponsible. If it is truly worthless, why should we pay? If it is worth a fortune, pay off some debts and people can choose. SBS is utterly pointless for ‘multiculturalism’. People can watch any program they want from around the world for free. Why are we still paying $350Million a year for Al Grassby’s 1970s idea? We are being ripped off. Trump would just sell them off.

    Turnbull however will do nothing about his ABC because they are the only ones who feed his ego, even though not one would vote for him. Turnbull is very cross about Trump. However he assures us that no bad politicians last forever. He is right.

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    Oliver K. Manuel

    Trump can easily defeat the

    1. Global Climate Scam;
    2. Media Hate Campaign; and
    3. UN & UNAS Matrix of Deceit

    By asking globalist UN and the UNAS (United National Academies of Sciences) scientists to answer one simple question in public:

    https://jonrappoport.wordpress.com/2016/11/09/the-matrix-revealed-my-interviews-on-space-time-manipulation-3/#comments

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    pat

    redress -

    your Ezra Levant video (u beat me to it) – PROOF: Blacks, women, Hispanics voted for “racist, sexist” Trump – is a ***MUST WATCH for everyone:

    meantime, the ‘WHITELASH’ that went viral (relevant to Levant’s piece). google results for Trump whitelash has 146,000 results:

    10 Nov: ABC Australia: US election: How US political commentators responded to Donald Trump’s victory
    National daily newspaper USA Today said a “WHITELASH” was partially to blame for Barack Obama supporters switching their allegiances to the New York billionaire.

    10 Nov: AFR: Ronald Mizen: US election: Pollsters start a ‘huge post-mortem’
    According to Australia’s leading pollsters, it could be because of low voter turnout – down around seven per cent on 2012; it could be because of a ***”WHITE-LASH” against President Obama; or it could be the polls weren’t wrong at all, people were just reading them incorrectly…
    Ipsos was estimating voter turnout to be around 60 per cent, which is “relatively typical” – the turnout in 2012 was 59 per cent.
    “The assumptions based on that, had that turnout taken place, would have led to a stronger performance for Clinton, whereas at the moment the figures suggest the turnout was nearer to 52 per cent of eligible voters who actually went along to vote,” Elgood said…
    Galaxy pollster David Briggs: “When you look at the binary of: Is Clinton going to win or Trump? Then clearly the polls got it wrong,” Briggs said.
    But when you take a closer look “the poll numbers were not massively wrong in a whole lot of ways”…
    http://www.afr.com/news/politics/election/us-election-pollsters-start-a-huge-post-mortem-20161110-gsm7g1

    9 Nov: ABC America: CNN’s Van Jones Says Trump’s Win Is ‘White-Lash’ Against Black President

    Brexit and Trump mark a whitelash. Politicians must not pander to it | Polly Toynbee
    The Guardian‎ – 1 day ago

    the source for ‘WHITELASH’:

    ‘This was a WHITELASH’: Van Jones’ take on the election results
    CNN-8 Nov. 2016
    “It was whitelash against a black president in part. And that’s the part where the pain comes.”

    did Van suffer remorse for the part his words might have played in inciting the riots?

    10 Nov: Mediaite: Van Jones: ‘You Could Not Script a Better Human Being’ Than Trump Has Been Since Winning
    by Josh Feldman
    Despite his issues with Trump and the meaning of his victory, Jones said that Trump has been very on-message: VIDEO/CNN
    “You could not script a better human being than Donald Trump has been. If you sat down and tried to come up with it. He has been spectacular and there are more things he can do to carry this momentum forward.”…
    http://www.mediaite.com/tv/van-jones-you-could-not-script-a-better-human-being-than-trump-has-been-since-winning/

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      Annie

      White lash my foot! I just think a lot of people saw through Clinton and didn’t want an even worse version of what the Democrats have already given them. Nothing to do with Obama’s skin shade.

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        ЯΞ√ΩLUT↑☼N

        Not just that Annie, but more of the same – except the change in corruption, lies and disappointment only becoming worse. Trump supporters were tired of being told what to do, say and think to avoid being labelled with hateful descriptors, and not just by their peers. I believe they saw the rising tide of full-stupid Communism behind the Socialist elitism.

        The Dummocrat-controlled MSM-brainwashed ones are currently running up and down the streets with foul mouths doing exactly what they purport Trump to be. They dare not say anything deemed offensive by their peers, which changes almost constantly. They’re trapped by each other, at the dinner table or at work.

        It’s no different to being called a “scab” by your workmates if you change your tune about the union. The only way out is to STHU and let it die down until attitudes change, or board themselves up at home with no social media to attract bullying, or worse.

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    comment is in moderation.

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    PeterS

    Both Obama and Clinton must now get on TV with Trump and plead for calm and state categorically that such violent behaviour is a threat to the Constitution and will be treated accordingly. They must reiterate the fact Trump has been elected as the next President and there is no need for the violent behaviour. This could turn more serious if they do not do this. They have to nip it in the bud before it’s too late.

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    There was an article at The Daily Signal from Katrina Trinko, and one thing which stood out for me was the following comment from another site she had been watching in the period after the election.

    This sort of says it all really.

    I also deleted everyone who supported Trump from FB. Thankfully, it wasn’t that many people. Unfortunately, it included my step-dad. I don’t think these people don’t get it – I think they don’t care. I think that to take rights from women, from people of color, from the LGBT+ community, from non-Christians is what they want.

    I love my step-dad. But I cannot stand by and pretend like he didn’t just proudly support racism and misogyny. I will not be speaking to him. I will not be seeing him. It’s a hard thing for me, but in this case my values and principals are more important and I will not invite someone at war with those to be part of my life.

    What a shame that people think like this.

    Tony.

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      Yonniestone

      I bet it was all roses and unicorns for the left when Obama got his second term without a thought for what it meant for their country but when tables are turned the childish minds cannot cope with what’s happened, ever seen a spoilt kid hear the word NO for the first time?, first confusion then realisation then the tantrum.

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      KinkyKeith

      The person is talking about “my values and principles “.

      Principles modeled by Hillary, pop stars and their ABC and the media generally.

      KK

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      John Michelmore

      While the MSM give space to biased and unbalanced reports the western world has a problem, because there are too many who believe what they read blindly. The same happens in Australia especially where the media or group is funded by our taxes whether that is the ABC or through government funded bodies like green groups, and even Meat and Livestock Australia which masquerades as a cattle producer organisation. The tentacles of control are everywhere and most people cannot see them; then they blindly believe the information they receive is balanced.
      If government support (consolidated revenue/taxes) for media, and non charities, was removed we might see a change and better balanced reporting, because the biased media must change or go broke.

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    TdeF

    Looking at the figures, Clinton won hugely in California, Illinois and New York and New England, typically 60% to 40%, except for New Hampshire which was won by 0.2%.

    California as easily the biggest state with 61.5% wants to secede now, which means their bankruptcy might just be a problem, but socialists can always get the money by taxing the poor, as usually happens. There are just a lot more poor people.

    What is interesting though is the extraordinary % who voted for Clinton in the District of Columbia with a population of 658,000. Trump received only 4.1% of the vote!

    Hilary received three electoral college seats from DC too, which is only 220,000 per seat. In California it is 40 million for 55 seats, so 720,000 people per seat. That’s not one man one vote but Washington sets the rules.

    You would have to think every public servant just loved Hilary. One of us. One of us.

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      List of Smallest States with 3 Electoral College Votes and their population, and percentage vote.

      Wyoming – 586,000. Trump 70.1% Clinton 22.5%
      Vermont – 626,000. Clinton 61.1% Trump 32.6%
      DC – 672,000. Clinton 92.8% Trump 4.1%
      Alaska – 738,000. Trump 52.9% Clinton 37.7%
      North Dakota – 757,000. Trump 64.1% Clinton 27.8%
      South Dakota – 858,000. Trump 61.5% Clinton 31.7%
      Delaware – 946,000. Clinton 53.4% Trump41.9%
      Montana – 1,033,000. Trump 56.5% Clinton 36%

      Popular Vote in those 7 States and DC – Trump 1,414,083 Clinton 1,208,186

      Source – Politico

      Tony.

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      ivan

      TdeF, take the time to look at the site I posted in the first comment. There you will see the disparity between the cities and the countryside. The city populations are well and truly brainwashed by the MSM while those in the countryside have work to do and don’t have the time to pander to the elite worshiping MSM.

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        TdeF

        Brainwashed or the same people? City people have prospered in much of the world and cities are growing rapidly. Mechanization is not only destroying manufacturing jobs, it is reducing labour in the country. Service industries are booming in the cities where everything is possible where the small country towns are suffering, unable to attract people. So Trump’s concerns about the America of his memory are not echoed in the big cities where food is delivered during the night, the shelves are stocked by magic and prices have never been lower as farmers fight to make a living oppressed by the big supermarkets. So the city folk are very receptive to the message of the MSM. The people who have to do more than talk or tap on a computer for a living have revolted.

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      Rereke Whakaaro

      The DC intelligentsia is a big club, of which, Bill and Hilary are fully paid up members. There is an endless round of social engagements, where they all discuss every issue of the day, and all agree with each other on the optimum solution to every problem.

      Trump, on the other hand, is seen as a carpetbagger who probably doesn’t know nor care which spoon to use when taking a serving of the Mongolian chutney.

      Of course they are going to vote for their erudite and humorous friends so they can bask in the knowledge that they, personally, have helped elect the first female president.

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        RW

        Find yourself a copy of John Steinbeck’s “Once there was a War” and read the section “Mussolini” – it isn’t exactly done in chapters.

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        TdeF

        “The DC intelligentsia is a big club”

        98.3% of DC voted for Hillary.

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          AndyG55

          “98.3% of DC voted for Hillary.”

          Then they are FOOLING themselves if they think they are intelligent.

          GULLIBLE, NON-THINKING FOOLS !!

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      Akatsukami

      Hilary received three electoral college seats from DC too, which is only 220,000 per seat. In California it is 40 million for 55 seats, so 720,000 people per seat. That’s not one man one vote but Washington sets the rules.

      That happens not to be the case. That rule is set by the U.S. Constitution; see Article II, Section 1 and Amendment XXIII.

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    Fantail

    I can’t remember the actual figure, but NBC had some figure on election night (and I’m paraphrasing) that something like 1 in 5 voters was disappointed in both candidates and in that group, the vast majority of individuals would absolutely not vote for Clinton. The emails, the private server and the DNC sham election had a huge affect on those voters.

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    O/T; mods feel free to remove:

    Watching Fox News this morning, a news article came on. The CEO of a restaurant chain called GrubHub, Mike Maloney, advised employees who supported, voted for, or speak favorably of Trump should resign.

    Love the left’s definition of free speech … … …

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    pat

    hopefully, I’ve got everything together for this tale now, then I can go to bed! AP/CNN/NYT simply will not call Michigan for Trump. still playing games:

    Trump leads in Michigan; AP not calling race
    2 days ago

    from Breitbart (see comment #72 jo’s “Trump Victory” thread):
    Michigan Election Official: ‘No Reason to Believe Large Numbers of Votes Will Be Found’ to Change Trump 13,107 Vote Win
    The Michigan Secretary of State’s official election results website shows Donald Trump with a 13,107 vote lead over Hillary Clinton, with 100 percent of precincts reporting…
    Woodhams would not speculate as to why media outlets have not yet called Michigan for Trump. “You would have to ask the media outlets that question.”
    Similarly, Woodhams could not explain why Politico is currently reporting a few thousand more votes in the state than the Michigan Secretary of State website is reporting, with a slightly different margin for Trump (11,423 versus 13,107)…
    The Detroit Free Press on Wednesday declared Trump the victor in Michigan by 13,225 votes, after prematurely and incorrectly calling the state for Hillary Clinton on Election Night with only 11 percent of the state’s precincts reporting.
    A 13,107 vote margin of victory is not close enough to trigger a vote recount under Michigan law, as Citizens for Election Integrity reports:..

    (THIS ARTICLE WAS ALSO ORIGINALLY “Trump leads in Michigan; AP not calling race” AS ARE A NUMBER OF GOOGLE RESULTS, BUT THEY ALL SEEM TO HAVE CHANGED. WHEN U CLICK ON THIS ONE, IT IS NOW: “The Latest: Democratic state House leader steps down” DATED 9 NOV)
    The Associated Press is not naming a winner because the unofficial election night vote count almost always is slightly different than the final, certified count, which will come ***later this month.
    David Pace, the AP’s news editor for elections and special projects, said Wednesday the AP always waits for the official count “in races this close.”…
    http://journalstar.com/news/national/govt-and-politics/the-latest-trump-leads-in-michigan-ap-not-calling-race/article_1468ca99-dde6-556a-bc21-f624d4e984b5.html

    10 Nov: ABC: AP: Correction: 2016-Election-Popular Vote Story
    In a story Nov. 9 about the popular vote in the presidential election, The Associated Press reported erroneously that Donald Trump had criticized the Electoral College in a tweet two days before Election Day. Trump sent the tweet on Nov. 6, 2012.
    A corrected version of the story is below:
    Clinton on pace to win popular vote, despite losing election
    By STEPHEN OHLEMACHER…
    A day after Election Day, Clinton held a narrow lead in the popular vote, according to unofficial results tallied by The Associated Press. With nearly 125 million votes counted, Clinton had 47.7 percent of the vote and Trump had 47.5 percent.
    That’s a lead of about 236,000 votes.
    Many states count votes after Election Day, so Clinton isn’t guaranteed to keep her lead. However, most of the outstanding votes appear to be in Democratic-leaning states, making it very likely she will become the second Democratic candidate for president this century to win the popular vote but lose the presidency.
    The biggest chunk of uncounted votes is in California. Washington state, New York, Oregon and Maryland also have large numbers of uncounted votes.
    ***Clinton won all those states, and if the trends continue, she will pad her lead by more than ***1 million votes.
    There are also votes to be counted in Arizona and Alaska, two Republican-leaning states. But they are far outnumbered by uncounted votes in Democratic states…
    MASSIVE ANTI-TRUMP PROTEST COVERAGE FOLLOW THIS PIECE
    http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/wireStory/correction-2016-election-popular-vote-story-43451288

    even tho I smell a rat, particularly regarding the popular vote, I don’t believe Trump will contest anything, because he has won no matter what, & Clinton can’t contest, because I believe there has been fraud in multiple States.

    more to come.

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    graphicconception

    As a Brit, I just see a re-run of the aftermath of Brexit. The media luvvies are apoplectic. They asked all their friends if anyone voted the “wrong” way and no one had. Strangely, they took this as a meaningful and representative sample of the population. They just have no idea how far from the general public they are. Can’t everyone earn £400,000 pa for reading the news?

    The useful idiots are running round saying the vote does not apply to them. The billionaires are busy gaming the financial markets, firstly, to salvage as much in the way of winnings as they can and then to show that the finance markets do not like the decision.

    Now we will get weeks of media articles that will point out every Trump foible they can remember while, curiously, not mentioning any of Hillary’s. This is the same kind of one-sided reporting that they use to highlight climate issues.

    Then they look for loop-holes, ways to do what they wanted, instead: http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-elections/donald-trump-president-electoral-college-faithless-electors-hillary-clinton-mike-pence-a7410636.html In the UK, the court cases started after that.

    We even have areas like the capitals, London and DC, being outliers and one other major area in each country, Scotland and California. Both are into renewables but I bet Scotland wishes it had California’s “global warming”.

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      graphicconception

      Oh, I forgot these:

      Pictures of the main protagonists appear which have been doctored to show him with a small, dark moustache, preferably with a raised right arm,and the main dissenting areas say they want to separate from the others.

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    pat

    first part of this tale has been posted, but is in moderation. as I am going to bed, i’ll post the second part now, even if it ends up going through before the previous comment comes out of moderation.

    hmmm!

    10 Nov: BusinessInsider: Mark Abadi: One metric puts into perspective how unpopular Donald Trump and Hillary Clinton were with voters
    In 14 states, down-ballot candidates received more votes than presidential candidates — even when you factor in third-party candidates…
    The 14 states where down-ballot races saw more votes than the presidential race are: READ ALL
    http://www.businessinsider.com.au/more-votes-for-down-ballot-than-president-2016-11

    some of the States above show up in the early analysis by Bev Harris of BlackBoxVoting, see video below.
    she has concerns about Wisconsin, Pennsylvania, New Hampshire but, in order to detect fraud, she still has to get the ballot images. Virginia, which Clinton won, is now refusing to hand theirs over; Washington State, Utah, Kansas, Nevada, Indiana, have also refused.

    btw Bev is wrong about when Clinton cancelled the fireworks; they were cancelled Monday 7 (Daily Mail & other MSM – Hillary Clinton’s campaign has called off its planned election night firework display, it emerged Monday), but i agree with Bev’s analysis nonetheless: that the Clinton campaign knew from their own internal polling that they could not beat Trump’s landslide, so cancelled the celebration.
    i also suspect, as she does, that they went ahead with the “steal” anyway, but it was not enough. Nevada, New Hampshire (both won by Clinton) would be two i’d like to see checked thoroughly. Bev’s concern for Wisconsin & Pennsylvania worth checking too because, although Trump won, they were close.
    watch from 3mins.

    9 Nov: Youtube: 11mins14secs: Hillary Tried To Steal Election From Trump But Failed: Bev Harris (BlackBoxVoting)
    Infowars: interview with Alex Jones
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=is5GrQwevhg

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    pat

    Pts 1 & 2 now in moderation. this is Pt 3, the finale:

    National Review hates Trump, but worth noting they have accepted Trump won Michigan:

    10 Nov: NationalReview: Henry Payne: How Blue-Collar Democrats Turned Michigan Red for Trump
    On Tuesday, the Republican presidential nominee rode a wave of opposition to NAFTA to a stunning upset victory in a state that had not voted for a Republican president since the Reagan-Bush elections of 1980–88…
    In his successful 2014 Senate race, Democrat Gary Peters of Michigan was rewarded with hefty campaign contributions from California billionaire environmentalist Tom Steyer after adopting a global-warming agenda that threatens the state’s lifeblood, coal power. Steyer had promised the Democratic party $100 million in return for eliminating carbon-based industrial jobs. These are the voters that Trump courted in West Virginia, Ohio, Pennsylvania, and Macomb County, drawing huge crowds. Trump took 75 of Michigan’s 83 counties, with Clinton’s vote isolated in urban areas such as metro Detroit and the state capital, Lansing. The working-class counties of Michigan’s tenth congressional district — it includes Macomb and lawn after lawn planted with Trump-Pence signs — was a marked contrast to tonier, Democrat-leaning Oakland County northwest of Detroit…

    from the bowels of prog-left NPR no less! unbelievable tale. it shocked a RedditThe_Donald reader who heard it, & many dem crossovers have been commenting how it fits their personal experience & that of friends, etc.
    Click Arrow top left to play AUDIO 3mins45secs (a short promo may play at the start):

    10 Nov: NPR All Things Considered: Transcript: An App Saw Trump Winning Swing States When Polls Didn’t
    In this election, polls failed to predict that President-elect Donald Trump was winning key battleground states, but a start-up in San Francisco had spotted that advantage well in advance. It wasn’t because of an enthusiasm gap – Republicans turning out, and Democrats staying at home. Instead, the start-up’s data pointed to a big crossover effect – Democrats voting for Trump in droves. NPR’s Aarti Shahani reports…
    MAHAN: On the Democratic side, we saw something entirely different. Of our universe of registered voters, only 55 percent of registered Democrats pledged to vote for Hillary Clinton.
    SHAHANI: Repeat – 55 percent, just a little more than half. I ask for a clarification.
    And is this while Bernie was still in the race?
    MAHAN: This is during the general election.
    SHAHANI: So it’s not the Bernie Sanders effect. It’s Trump.
    MAHAN: Forty percent of registered Democrats pledged to vote for Donald Trump.
    SHAHANI: I’m sorry. How many?
    MAHAN: Forty percent.
    SHAHANI: Brigade saw this pattern back in September, but they didn’t trust it because their user base skews conservative. Even though the company was started by liberals in San Francisco, it went viral in Republican circles. Once the election happened, brigade realized, oh, yeah, we were on to something. Let’s take the swing state North Carolina. Brigade’s Aleks Mistratov…READ ALL
    http://www.npr.org/templates/transcript/transcript.php?storyId=501613521

    separate article:

    10 Nov: NPR: Aarti Shahani: All Things Considered: An App Saw Trump Winning Swing States When Polls Didn’t
    In 2016, the polls got it wrong. They failed to predict that Donald Trump was winning key battleground states. But a startup in San Francisco says it spotted it well in advance, not because of the “enthusiasm gap” — Republicans turning out and Democrats staying at home. Instead, the startup Brigade’s data pointed to a big crossover effect: Democrats voting for Trump in droves…READ ALL
    http://www.npr.org/sections/alltechconsidered/2016/11/10/501613521/an-app-saw-trump-winning-swing-states-when-polls-didnt

    Tuesday 8th election day & after: like many others, I read thousands, perhaps tens of thousands, of anecdotal reports about unprecedented, massive lines at the polls, lots of red clothing, dems voting Trump, blacks & Latinos voting Trump, etc etc. so, how come, with an increase in population, the alleged turnout figures are not higher?

    unless the Clintons & cronies (incl neverTrump Republicans for all I know) shaved of some millions of votes across the country, affecting who won the Popular Vote, which was, in turn, used to spark violent riots across America.

    I smell a big rat/s. goodnight.

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    my lengthy tale in three parts is in moderation. not complaining, just saying.

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    Mark Fraser

    “Mr. Obama, we can do this one of two ways; in only one of them do you get to save a little bit of face and legacy. That one involves throwing a few people under the bus, and I think you know who they are….”
    I suspect the unexpectedly long meeting may have included this type of discussion.

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    oops forgot this – which jo was wondering about – but I don’t believe it, even tho the MSM continuing propaganda is responsible if it’s even half true:

    11 Nov: SMH: Matt Wade: Ipsos poll shows what Australians feel about President Donald Trump
    Australians have reacted with alarm to Donald Trump’s election as US president, with a significant majority saying it will hurt the economy, make the world less safe and worsen relations between Canberra and Washington.
    A nationwide poll by Ipsos taken after this week’s US election found two-thirds were opposed to Mr Trump’s election as president…
    However, there was a significant gender split, with 75 per cent of women opposed, compared with 57 per cent of men. More than eight in 10 young voters (18-24 years) were also opposed to Mr Trump’s presidency…
    The Ipsos survey of 921 voters revealed a high level of concern about global security under President Trump…
    A significant majority felt Mr Trump’s presidency will be negative for America, with 62 per cent saying the country will be worse off …
    http://www.smh.com.au/national/ipsos-poll-shows-what-australians-really-feel-about-donald-trump-20161111-gsnbdt.html

    so INcredible:

    7 Nov: SMH: Clinton has 90 per cent chance of defeating Republican Donald Trump in the race for the White House, according to the final Reuters/Ipsos poll…

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      Thanks Pat! So 80% of 18 – 24 year olds in Australia and 75% of women have probably only heard one side of the story here. That fits with feedback I’m getting from schools and others.

      Jo

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        Jo

        About fits our clan too – though a neighbour did say “You picked it”

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        Bulldust

        Hardly surprising that the SMH and The Age (and whatever other Fairfax papers are out there) lurched strongly to the left after the alliance with HuffPo early last year:

        http://www.smh.com.au/business/media-and-marketing/fairfax-inks-partnership-with-huffington-post-20150208-139aod.html

        I noticed the Sydney Morning HuffPo gradually quickly sank into the morrass of regressive leftist thought after that … to be honest it was knee-deep to start with, but the end was inevitable with the HuffPo anchor around it’s neck.

        You don’t have to spend more than ten seconds browsing to find Soros’ fingerprints all over the media as well:

        http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2011/05/11/dont-hear-george-soros-ties-30-major-news-organizations.html

        This is why internet blogs are taking over. Sites like this, and WUWT, Rubin Report, wikileaks etc (I know that is a paltry list – others could add numerous valuable sites to the list) become so valuable as they ask questions and report facts that the bought-and-paid-for media won’t touch.

        In the mid- to late-90s I said the internet would be a great force for democracy. I had no idea it would unfold like this. It is tearing away the blinkers with which the failed fourth estate seeks to blind the people. I had no idea of the wisdom of my comment at the time … but I had a sense of the freedoms it would bring. None too soon either.

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    pat

    yikes back again with THE HYPNOTISED MEDIA:

    links upon links upon links for the insomniacs & those in other Time Zones. goodnight again:

    10 Nov: New Yorker: Cover Story: Bob Staake’s “The Wall”
    By Françoise Mouly
    When we first received the results of the election, we felt as though we had hit a brick wall, full force. “The election of Donald Trump to the Presidency is nothing less than a tragedy for the American republic, a tragedy for the Constitution, and a triumph for the forces, at home and abroad, of nativism, authoritarianism, misogyny, and racism,” David Remnick wrote in a piece posted shortly after the announcement. “The pathos—the disappointment at waking up on Wednesday morning and not finding a woman President-elect—is undeniable, and heartbreaking,” added Amy Davidson. Our Web site is now continually updated with reactions like these, to the news of Trump’s victory. “To combat authoritarianism, to call out lies, to struggle honorably and fiercely in the name of American ideals—that is what is left to do. That is all there is to do,” Remnick concluded. And so we must go on—with words and images such as this cover by Bob Staake for next week’s issue.
    More on Donald Trump’s victory: David Remnick on an American tragedy, Amy Davidson on Trump’s stunning win, Evan Osnos on Trump’s supporters, Adam Gopnik on talking to kids about Trump’s victory, John Cassidy on how Trump prevailed, Benjamin Wallace-Wells on Clinton’s concession and who is to blame, Jelani Cobb on the end of Obama’s Presidency, and Adam Davidson on the faces of Clinton supporters.
    Françoise Mouly has been the art editor at The New Yorker since 1993
    http://www.newyorker.com/culture/culture-desk/cover-story-2016-11-21

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    PhilJourdan

    WUWT had a snowflake out of England that was whining about how ANYONE could vote for Trump because he was “racist, sexist, homophobe, etc.”. The usual MSM and left descriptions for half the US (the deplorables). It is becoming second nature to us to hear those labels applied because we do not agree with their vision. What is noteworthy, is that Willis slammed her down hard! Willis has about as much in common with the right in this country as a rainbow has to B&W TV. While I doubt he voted for Trump, and has said he does not care for him, the one thing you will find is that most TRUE Americans (not the clowns wanting to migrate to another English speaking country due to the results) hate ignorant foreigners voicing ignorant opinions.

    We welcome informed ones (we may not like them, and we will then argue those opinions), but if you are going to slam us, do it with facts, not hyperbole and lies. The alternative is you are going to find not 50% of the nation coming down your throat, but 75%. The other 25% you can have, but I would warn you not to take them. Snowflakes are the same regardless of the country they live in.

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      . . the one thing you will find is that most TRUE Americans [. . . .] hate ignorant foreigners voicing ignorant opinions.

      Yep . . and it is ignorance in many ways. I struggle a bit to ‘get’ US political nuance correct.
      In Oz we see things in terms of left and right and “liberal” over here means the opposite of the US. That said, much of the underlying US/Oz ideals are the same on both sides of the political sphere.

      Also, we have very different demographics. We don’t have even a semblance of a coloured/white vote thang going on . . . and practically no one here goes to church. I’m always amazed how often US commentators of any stripe end their media piece and inject some form of Christian values. That almost never happens here.

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        PhilJourdan

        That is perhaps the worst part of America, and those who propagate it are those that profess to be “helping”. Yet the help is always the same, more onerous burdens on those they claim to be helping.

        Most “new” countries have a very mixed population, of all races. Yet the “racism” charge is limited to the US (or so the narrative goes). Why? Because the government perpetuates it!

        The reality is that slavery cannot exist and thrive without the explicit cooperation of the government. The true racists in the US lost a war 150 years ago. But they did not die out. Instead they created a new form. They call it many things, but the truth is it is the “lower expectations” which says your race determines how far you can go.

        Those yelling “racist” in the US are the only racists left.

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    mesoman

    Can’t wait until this blog gets back to climate change. There are tens of thousands of other blogs for politics.

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      Graeme No.3

      Climate change is politics, foisted on us by those who want to control what we think.
      For a typical example see https://notalotofpeopleknowthat.wordpress.com/2016/11/10/jet-set-life-of-wwf-wanker/

      Germany has just reduced its target for renewables in 2030. That won’t go down well at COP22.

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        Rick Will

        Myron Ebell has provided the best description of Climate Change I have heard – an alternate reality. The supporters are so tangled in the output of their models and the need for ever increasing funding that they have altered reality to align with the models. You see their survival instincts motivating all manner of unethical actions.

        I hope one day to hear evidence from some pleb in one of the weather monitoring authorities the conversation around altering the historical temperature records. “John, we need to make the past cooler. Can you devise a little routine that will subtly adjust the past records so there is a steadier upward trend. It can vary but must always show a nice upward trend. Come back to me with what you can do so I can give it the OK”

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      Albert

      Surely ‘climate change’ is dead, RIP

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      Yonniestone

      mesoman the science of our climate is what drew me here in 2008 it soon became apparent the politics of our climate was heavily entwined.

      The sooner this scam is crushed the sooner science can be advanced through open debate.

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      PeterS

      What are you talking about mesoman - Trump’s victory is the best news ever for us man-made climate change skeptics. I hope we will keep talking about his plans and progress in destroying the man-made climate change hoax. Why cover it up now when it’s the best time ever to keep tabs with his plans as they unfold?

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      Raven

      Can’t wait until this blog gets back to climate change. There are tens of thousands of other blogs for politics.

      Hey, we can walk and chew gum at the same time!
      The common thread running through politics and Climate Change™ is the hilarity.
      Everyone likes a laugh . .

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    Robert Rosicka

    Mesoman this is about climate change and what the Don will do about the scam .
    Interesting question Jo about how many Aussies would vote for Trump , I believe it’s more than some people think .

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      Another Ian

      If ever you needed an example of Mark Twain’s

      “It’s not the things you don’t know that get you into trouble, it’s the things you know that just aren’t so”

      I’m having to do a re-education on some of my clan and, in that endeavour,

      Jo – thanks for this thread

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    Albert

    He’s got my vote

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    Albert

    They got their Black President and they went so far backwards that unarmed Blacks are shot by Police and nothing happens. Black communities are like Afghanistan with no hope of future employment. Some say Trump is like a train wreck but at least he is going in the right direction.

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    Another Ian

    WRT Trump’s EPA appointment

    https://wattsupwiththat.com/2016/11/11/friday-funny-liberals-are-in-such-disbeliefshock-on-myron-ebell-appointment-for-epa-transition-he-has-a-snopes-page/

    And the comments! Particularly


    Duygle
    November 11, 2016 at 9:48 am”

    and following

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    Joanne and friends:

    You’ll definitely want to watch this video by Ezra Levant:

    No, it wasn’t the “white vote”: Trump’s big gains with blacks, Hispanics, women*, youth, poor

    *the headline is wrong here: Trump gained more male support than Romney, not female

    EVERYONE will want to watch this video for pure entertainment:

    Johnathan Pie – Who Is Responsible for Trump? It’s Us [the Left], Stupid [paraphrasing]

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    clipe

    Coming up sometime between 18:00-19:00 EST: CBS Executive Producer for “Sixty Minutes” will be on Newstalk-1010 in an “exclusive” interview about DJT’s appearence on Sunday’s program. That’s within the next hour.

    http://www.iheartradio.ca/newstalk-1010

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    Robert Rosicka

    Just watched the high priest of the Greens on their ABC commenting about voter apathy for the mainstream political parties , he reckons the greens will be the beneficiary of any protest vote in the future .
    I’m predicting the next federal election will see the end of these green id 10 ts.

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      Raven

      Richard Di Natale? . . . cripes, what is he smoking.
      Mainstream political apathy went to Pauline Hanson who used to run her family fish ’n chip shop.

      On the strength of that, I suggest The Greens were beaten by a piece of flake and a small serve of chips.

      Seriously for a moment . . . when Di Natale came on board and replaced Christine Milne as leader, I thought he’d gain more voter appeal if only because he didn’t look so sour all the time. That didn’t happen either.

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      Graeme No.3

      Robert:
      their vote is only as high as it is because of the protest vote.
      Getting a green only vote would reduce them to 2%.

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    David Maddison

    I wish Obama would just fast track himself out of the White House so Trump can get to work right away. Can’t wait to Jan 20!

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    doubtingdave

    I’m fuming at this minute , just watched a football match between England and Scotland , just before rememberance sunday , where both teams and their supporters are wearing poppies to remember those that have fallen , we even had a bugler and a minutes silence before the match , as much as we English and the Scots have a rivalry we are all British and we remember those that sacrificed their lives in the second world war , and yet the EU AND UEFA { the European football union } want to penalize and sanction us for wearing poppies because its not politically correct , its a disgrace , who the f++k do they think they are , I’m so glad I voted Brexit , other wise we might still be ruled by a Marxist bunch of w!nk!rs from Brussels , I’m so pissed off with these useless +”@@#

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    redress

    Michael Moore…..has posted his post election to do list…
    No.5….. You must say this sentence to everyone you meet today: “HILLARY CLINTON WON THE POPULAR VOTE!” The MAJORITY of our fellow Americans preferred Hillary Clinton over Donald Trump. Period. Fact. If you woke up this morning thinking you live in an effed-up country, you don’t. The majority of your fellow Americans wanted Hillary, not Trump. The only reason he’s president is because of an arcane, insane, 18th-century idea called the Electoral College. Until we change that, we’ll continue to have presidents we didn’t elect and didn’t want.

    Clinton is currently winning the popular vote by 00.03% or 465,769 votes only because of her huge California vote.
    If you take out the 5,691,199 votes lodged for her in California, and the 3,052,184 lodged for Trump, Trump is winning the popular vote by 2,173,246……….I will repeat that by over 2 million votes.
    So, Michael Moore, the majority of fellow Americans do NOT want Clinton, only those in California and your statement is factually incorrect.

    One state does not a nation make even though Hollywood thinks it does.

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      Roy Hogue

      Isn’t it peculiar how who you are determines what constitutes a mandate to govern?

      The only thing that counts in a presidential election is the number of electoral college votes and Michael Moore knows that as surely as I do. But of course, poor baby that he is, his candidate didn’t win the electoral votes she needed to become president. So now he must make noise to make sure we all recognize that Donald Trump isn’t really legitimately the president Elect.

      Then there are the real facts as you outlined them. Some people never learn.

      I think we can safely ignore him for at least the next 4 and probably 8 more years.

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        Vlad the Impaler

        Two things:

        1) Hitllery received more votes than Donald Trump. This is a true statement.

        2) Hitllery did NOT get a majority of the votes cast. This is also a true statement.

        Both of these statements refer to the ‘popular’ vote, not the Electoral College vote.

        Here is what we saw in the voting: a citizen either voted for Hitllery, or they cast a vote for some other Presidential candidate (in Colorado, there were some two dozen candidates for President on the ballot); or, in about a half-percent of ballots across the nation, NO candidate received a vote from the person casting a vote. Some ballots contained only votes for elections of local interest: Representative, Senator(if applicable), Governor (if applicable), county offices, city offices, etc …

        If we compile all the votes for Hitllery, and give them to her, and all the votes for ‘anyone-but-clinton’ (popularly known in my state as ABC), then Hitllery did NOT receive 50% of the vote, plus one vote, to make a majority.

        I did a rough analysis, and I came up with a preliminary figure of about 42% of the popular vote went to Clinton; she still received more votes than Trump, but she did not get a majority by any stretch of the imagination. Most of the states she won, by wide majorities, were the states she was going to win, along with their Electoral College votes. Most of the states that Trump ‘flipped’, and likely would not have won, he won by narrow margins, a few percent at best, and several by a small decimal point or two. I specifically pointed out to the Demoncrats that the independent candidate, Jill Stein, of the “Green Party”, siphoned about 50,000 votes from Clinton in Michigan, where the difference between her and Trump was less than 10,000 votes. Clinton would have taken Michigan if Stein had not been on the ballot. Johnson did a similar amount of damage to Trump in Michigan, and Trump would have taken New Hampshire if Johnson had not been on the ballot.

        Make what you will of these thoughts; the information is public and can be analyzed by anyone. I welcome dissenting opinion, and correction of my figures, which were all done in haste.

        Regards,

        Vlad

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          Roy Hogue

          Vlad,

          I offer no dissent. You have it all correct. And I admit to not having analyzed the details the way you have.

          I would simply point out that a win by a slim margin is still a legitimate win, Michael Moore notwithstanding. The result is the same as if no one voted for Clinton at all but instead, every vote cast was for Trump.

          Moore’s noise making is to stir up trouble by generating even more anger and of course, the will to oppose Trump in those who call themselves Democrats. The funny thing is that over the years the Republicans have been far more democratic than the Democrats.

          Winning the election for president is not about who gets the most votes but about getting the right votes. And both camps knew this and worked desperately to win in the right set of states.

          Ain’t life wunnerful?

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            Roy Hogue

            Here in California my vote for Trump had no more than protest value since California voters lean left to such an extent that they outnumber conservative voters so much that it simply didn’t matter that I voted for Trump.

            Along with that “problem”, with California’s new method of determining who appears on the ballot the choices for senator to replace Barbara Boxer were both Democrats. Even worse, there was no write-in choice I could make either. I’m considering whether I can get a class action suit going with the argument that the current method disenfranchises me by preventing me from voting for the winner of the Republican primary, someone who is a member of the same political party I’m a member of. I believe I have that right as a voter and I’m angry about it to an even greater extent than I’ve been angry about the direction the country has been going. I have been deliberately shut out of any chance to make my vote count for anything.

            California’s thinking is controlled by a few who want to rule the state and extend their rule to the country as surely as the sun came up this morning. And the voters fall for it at every election. I wish them nothing but defeat and failure. If a class action suit is viable I intend to try it.

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              Vlad the Impaler

              My sincere sympathies to you and yours, Roy.

              My older brother and his wife live in Saratoga, California. I understand your need to ‘stay put’, as I understand theirs. That said, as far as I am concerned, California is welcome to secede from the Union. I think the minute we cut off all the Federal dollars flowing there, and make them stand on their own two feet (as it were), they’ll figure out how dependent they are on the rest of the country.

              When the wall gets built, it’s fine if it makes a sharp right at the Arizona/California border, and runs right up through Lake Tahoe, taking another sharp left at the Oregon/California border, all the way to the Pacific. Takes away the Democrats largest voting bloc in one fell swoop.

              Any Democrat who wants to leave will be given free passage to the third world country of their choice, with the clothes on their back, and nothing else. Any Republican/Conservative who wants to leave will be allowed to have any assets they own, personal property, and a resettlement allowance in the state of their choice. Assistance with finding gainful employment, and other issues related to ‘starting over’, will all be paid by the Democrat Party, until every Conservative is adequately able to take care of him/her self, since that’s what the Demoncrats are all about anyway.

              Or so they say.

              Vlad

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                Roy Hogue

                At the rate those businesses and individuals who can are leaving California I’m surprised that nothing is ticlked in the heads of the governor or the legislature. To me that wouldn’t be just a tickle but a bomb going off, complete with flashing red lights and sirens.

                I’m more and more leaning toward the view of some that liberalism is a mental or personality disorder. Otherwise how can they miss the bloody obvious fact that California is being abandoned by the very same people it needs the most to keep it a viable economy and a viable state to live in.

                Go figure.

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          PhilJourdan

          1) Hitllery received more votes than Donald Trump. This is a true statement.

          Actually that is not a true statement. Hitlery received more votes of the counted votes than Donald Trump – is a true statement. However, when a state has counted enough votes to decide a winner, they stop counting. There is no need to count the absentee votes if the margin exceeds the number of them. Since popular votes do not elect the president, it is not needed.

          Given that Trump won 30 states to Clintons 20, there are a lot more “uncounted” votes for Donald than for Hillary. Just as there were in 2000.

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            Roy Hogue

            And no doubt correct. But we don’t know what those numbers are so it seems an academic point at best. So I’ll stick with my statement that,

            Winning the election for president is not about who gets the most votes but about getting the right votes. And both camps knew this and worked desperately to win in the right set of states.

            No offense intended but all else is mostly worthless to even argue about as far as I can see. Those who worry about the changing demographics and opinions from one year to the next will no doubt be gong over it for at least the next 4 years. But not your’s truly.

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              PhilJourdan

              I have no problem with your “Winning” statement. It is true. I only brought up my point because some of the losers (like Boxer and Reid) are whining about who got the most.

              But a better lesson for them is the World Series. Runs win games. And Cleveland scored more runs than Chicago, so by their logic, Cleveland should have won. It is not fair (their term) that Chicago won 4 games with less runs.

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      Another Ian

      AFIK the final count isn’t in and Hillary’s lead there is shaky – but that will only come out after the headlines!

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      clive

      Fact?We don’t need no steenking facts.

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    David Maddison

    We have become so used to a world governed by the global socialist elites it seemed these civilisation destroyers would stay in power for ever. President Trump has restored hope for the whole world. A true world leader.

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      el gordo

      A charismatic world leader capable of bringing about peace and prosperity. This is truly the new world order and Beijing can adjust.

      ‘And even if Trump places imposed tariffs on goods imported from China, the response from the Middle Kingdom could be to further stimulate its own economy.’

      Liz Knight / SMH

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    I have been watching the ABC trucking out all the familiar old talking heads from the Left, both from Oz, and also from the U.S. and all of them are saying that President Elect Trump now needs to temper what he said during the campaign, and roll back (almost) everything he said he was going to do.

    So, let me see if I’ve got this right.

    The people elected someone to euphemistically drain the swamp of DC, and now all those media left luvvies expect him to go to Washington and become one of those people he vowed to replace.

    Would they say the same things had Hillary won. You can bet they wouldn’t even remotely suggest it.

    Imagine now if you will a politician promising one thing and then doing the opposite.

    The media would crucify them, and yet, that’s what they expect President Elect Trump to do.

    Tony.

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      Lord Jim

      The MSM want him to backflip and then they will crucify him for it.

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      ianl8888

      The pain of watching the reversal of the CO2 regulations will be too much for them.

      They have spent decades building those regulations, against the will of the populations (who most certainly want reliable, affordable 24/7/365 power supply). Now all Trump has to do is sign pieces of paper undoing Obama’s pieces of paper (Executive fiat, no need for Congress or the Senate). Oh, the agony, the agony …

      I’m quite pleased I was wrong about Trump winning. This could be fun.

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      Roy Hogue

      Tony,

      You have it nailed down perfectly. But now that Trump is going to be inaugurated on January 20th, he’s facing major disturbances in the streets all over the country. I know how I would handle it. But I don’t know what Trump will do.

      I would nationalize the national guard in each state with protests going on and put them in the streets to enforce laws against blocking the streets, disorderly conduct and whatever else they’re doing and make it clear that the disruption to daily life must stop or there will be wholesale arrests for failure to disperse. And if they are looking for violence I would have nothing against the guard or the police defending themselves in kind. You may not attack legitimate authority with impunity.

      I would also invite them to send me representatives to talk to me and I would talk to them honestly and openly about my intentions and what they’re doing. We might come to some understanding and settle the matter. But if not, the only antidote to lawless behavior is law enforcement. A couple of nights under guard in a local gymnasium or other suitable place might be enough to discourage more of the same. I would not like to have to file formal complaints but I would if necessary.

      This is an approach something like Ronald Reagan’s firing of striking air traffic controllers when they failed to return to work after he issued a valid order to them requiring them to do so. That move put it into the minds of everyone that here was a president who would not tolerate lawless behavior. I think Trump needs to do the same. And yes, federal law legitimately prohibits them from striking for safety reasons. If you do something critical to safety of the public, you cannot strike.

      Unfortunately Trump doesn’t take office until January 20th. And probably fortunately, I’m not president elect.

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        PhilJourdan

        I have no idea what Trump will do either, but your suggestion raised a smile for me. Not in connection with the protesters (they will soon be gone and forgotten), but with the “Sanctuary” cities! How ironic should Trump do an Eisenhower and activate the national guard to enforce the law, and in both cases, it would be to enforce equal rights for “Citizens” of the country.

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    doubtingdave

    Here is a post election interview from CNN with a muslim American woman that voted TRUMP , she dismisses ideology in all its forms , which is music to my ears , but she articulates her self so well that CNN cut her off , says it all doesn’t it ,https://youtu.be/RG6rNcsVOaA

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    crakar24

    Military members I know were banging on about all the crazy things about trump. They even claimed he will start ww3 WHAT THE!!!!!

    I reminded them about hillarys no fly zone in Syria and I got blank faces, so I had to go through the whole thing how Russia is invited to bomb Isis and as no one else is everytime oz /usa/uk forces enter Syria they committing an act of war.

    So Hillary builds her illegal no fly zone to protect Isis and she shoots down a Russian plane what do you think will happen next.

    These military people are dumb but not that dumb to understand what will happen so now I move on to the next group on indoctrinated morons.

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      I agree, the no-fly-zone was a red flag. If a Russian flew through it, either she didn’t enforce it, and told the world the US was weak, or she did enforce it and they shoot down a Russian. It was a high risk scenario.

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        clive

        Leftards don’t think about “Consequences”

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        Roy Hogue

        Jo,

        I keep remembering how John Kennedy dealt with Nikita Khrushchev over his attempt to put Soviet missiles in Cuba. And looking back on it I think Khrushchev realized that he had as much to lose in a shooting war with the Unite States as we had, possibly even more than we would lose since the Soviet Union was still recovering from a devastating war and whatever progress had been made would come to an end and set them back to who knows where. After all, there were all those U.S. missiles in Turkey. I can’t know what was in either man’s mind but Kennedy made a good compromise considering that if I were Khrushchev I would not like all those U.S. missiles sitting there so close, all pointing at me. The de escalation was a good thing.

        Putin is harder to read but frankly I don’t think he wants a shooting war with the U.S. any more than Khrushchev did. So I think the risk might turn out to be worthwhile. But Hillary Clinton lacks the intestinal fortitude to take such a risk and probably lacks even the capability to evaluate that risk realistically. She hid from the world throughout most of this campaign, preferring to play it safe and count on her being a woman and being entitled, etc., etc., ad nauseam. And that’s not a risk taker, that’s a kid hiding under the blanket from the monster under the bed.

        I hope Trump is better able to evaluate risk because he’ll need that ability.

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          Roy Hogue

          Just to help make my point about Khrushchev, that was about the point in history when the Soviet Union was, as we now know, parading empty missile canisters around Red Square in a big public show that was probably more bluff than an actual worthwhile handful of cards.

          JFK couldn’t know that, of course. But he knew he needed to stand up to Khrushchev and he pulled it off masterfully. And I suspect he was a scared as the rest of the country and the world was at the time. But I have always thought Khrushchev was not willing to go to war and a good compromise along with the determination to tell him we would sink any ship that tried to run the blockade convinced him to back down.

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      PeterS

      As typical about the left they tell lies and turn things up side down. It was Clinton who was threatening war with Russia and if anyone watched what was happening with NATO, US and Russian forces all around Europe and the middle east it was clear the chess pieces were being placed in preparation for war – and that included tactical nuclear missiles. Trump was trying his best to keep things cool before the elections given his limited capacity to do so. I’m almost convinced that if Clinton was elected the US would be dragging us to a world war with Russia. This reason alone is enough to be happy that Trump won. All the other issues including the economy and climate change were secondary. Now that a war has been discounted at least for the foreseeable future we can now focus on the secondary issues as they are now primary. Thank you President Elect Trump.

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    crakar24

    Can the mods please explain why my comment #41 is in moderation

    Regards

    Crakar24

    [No Idea there isn't anything in moderation right now. I don't think the numbering is right either.] ED

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    Mark Fraser

    I don’t recall any riots after Obama’s wins. The political “right” prefer to grit their teeth and put the boots to the crazies at the ballot box. the left/green seem to always be the sore losers. Why do they have to turn every setback into a bedwetting victimized pity-pot party? Grow up.

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    Ruairi

    The losers protest and decry,
    The election result they deny,
    While behaving like apes,
    As they eat sour grapes,
    When they really should eat humble pie.

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    pat

    Geraldine Doogue, ABC Saturday Extra had a pro-Clinton journo on (having had her on prior to the election) – Maria Pena, senior political correspondent for Impremedia Spanish newspapers. she argued that influential pollsters, Latino Decisions, dispute Trump got 29% of the Latina vote. best to lay out their case here. not that I agree until I see proof:

    11 Nov: WaPo: In record numbers, Latinos voted overwhelmingly against Trump. We did the research.
    By Gabriel Sanchez and Matt A. Barreto
    (Gabriel R. Sanchez is a professor of political science at the University of New Mexico and principal at 8**Latino Decisions; Matt A. Barreto is a professor of Chicano studies and political science at UCLA and co-founder of ***Latino Decisions)
    ***The national exit surveys’ deeply flawed methodology distorts the Latino vote. Even the exits, however, find that the Latino electorate gave a supermajority of its vote to Clinton. Figuring in the increase in Latino voters, Donald Trump received only 18 percent of the Latino vote, the lowest level on record for any presidential candidate…
    Our polling throughout the election season indicated that the high levels of Latino enthusiasm about voting were driven largely by fear of a Trump victory, which we have called “Trump Bump.”…READ ALL PLUS COMMENTS
    https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/monkey-cage/wp/2016/11/11/in-record-numbers-latinos-voted-overwhelmingly-against-trump-we-did-the-research/

    11 Nov: WaPo: Trump got more votes from people of color than Romney did. Here’s the data.
    By Karthick Ramakrishnan
    (Karthick Ramakrishnan is professor of public policy and political science at the University of California, Riverside, and author, most recently, of “Framing Immigrants: News Coverage, Public Opinion and Policy.”)
    It’s also important to note that polling firms ***Latino Decisions and Asian American Decisions found much higher support for Clinton among Latinos and Asian American voters in a survey fielded in the week prior to Election Day. As I’ve noted before, it’s possible that differential turnout on Election Day among Democrats and Republicans might account for part of this discrepancy…
    Comparing yesterday’s results with 2012, as this Washington Post feature does, shows that Trump actually performed slightly worse among white voters than Mitt Romney did. He did, however, perform better than Romney among blacks, Latinos and Asian Americans, making it more difficult to claim that racial resentment was the dominant factor explaining Trump’s support nationally…READ ALL PLUS COMMENTS
    https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/monkey-cage/wp/2016/11/11/trump-got-more-votes-from-people-of-color-than-romney-did-heres-the-data/?tid=hybrid_collaborative_1_na

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    pat

    science gone mad…not to mention Trump is skeptical of “climate”:

    11 Nov: Yahoo Sports(?): Michael Walsh: Major physicists’ group retracts Trump-friendly press release
    After considerable pushback from the scientific community, the American Physical Society retracted a recent press release this week that congratulated ***climate skeptic**** Donald Trump on winning the presidential election.
    “The American Physical Society (APS) congratulates Donald Trump on being elected president of the United States of America,” the Wednesday statement read.
    APS, the world’s second-largest organization of physicists, urged the president-elect to adopt policies that prioritize science so the United States can reclaim its leadership role. The release noted that the Information Technology and Innovation Foundation ranked the U.S. just 10th in innovation worldwide, largely because it lacked adequate funding for scientific research.
    “APS urges President-elect Trump to incorporate the necessary policies that will enable our nation to reclaim its scientific leadership, which it has lost during the past decade,” the statement continued. “APS believes that such policies will help the Trump administration achieve its goal captured by its slogan, ‘Make America Great Again.’”
    The page that once hosted the press release now reads, “APS has retracted the recent press release. We apologize and regret the offense it has caused.”
    Reaction to the press release, which Retraction Watch has archived, was swift after it was first posted online…READ ALL THE MADNESS
    http://sports.yahoo.com/news/major-physicists-group-retracts-trump-friendly-press-release-215349023.html

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    pat

    11 Nov: DCist: Rachel Sadon: Million Woman March Planned in D.C. For the Day After Inauguration
    Add a massive mobilization of feminists in D.C. to the list of ways that people hope to combat the presidency of a man who has repeatedly insulted, shamed, and bragged about assaulting women.
    Several people came up with the idea independently and created different event pages. As they spread on Facebook, they found each other and agreed to team up on a Million Woman March.
    “It’s the most organic thing you’ve ever heard of,” says Bob Bland, a New York-based entrepreneur, fashion designer, and activist. “We made the decision to collaborate and consolidate early yesterday—right after we found out about each other.” She teamed up with Fontaine Pearson, who is based in Tennessee, and Evie Harmon, in South Carolina—none of whom knew each other previously—to help lead the growing interest in showing up en masse in Washington.
    Within hours of consolidating their efforts, tens of thousands of women (and men) said they planned to attend a march from the Lincoln Memorial to the White House on January 21, Donald Trump’s first full day in office. State-level coordinators are helping lead efforts to bring people in, and a group in D.C. is already working on permitting and other logistics…
    http://dcist.com/2016/11/million_woman_march_planned_in_dc_f.php

    a shout-out from kindred spirit, Moore:

    VIDEO: 11 Nov: Hollywood Reporter: Hilary Lewis: Michael Moore Explains Why Trump Won in 45-Minute Commercial-Free ‘Morning Joe’ Appearance
    During the wide-ranging discussion, Moore talked about why Trump connected with working people in states like Wisconsin and Michigan, why he and others will continue to oppose the president-elect and wondered aloud, as he has in the past, why the Democratic party doesn’t “run more beloved Americans,” like Tom Hanks and Oprah Winfrey…
    And he went on to say that people who voted for Obama in 2008 and 2012 changed their mind in 2016, not wanting another eight years with “no middle class jobs, where they’re struggling to get by.”…
    And Moore himself saw that Clinton wasn’t going to win hours before the election results came in.
    “I was there. I was there up until 2 a.m. on Election Day, holding rallies, trying to turn it around on my own,” he said. “I’m not part of the campaign, I was just doing my own thing. And I could see that this wasn’t going to happen and that what I’d said back in the summer was sadly going to be true.”…
    “We are going to resist. We are going to oppose,” he said. “Those demonstrations you’re seeing on the streets. When it’s in places like Milwaukee — that’s not Berkeley and Ann Arbor. This is going to continue tonight and the next night. All he has to do is start nominating Rudy Giuliani as attorney general and things like that. Or [make] his Supreme Court [picks]. This is going to be a massive resistance. ***There’s already — women are calling for a million woman march on the Inauguration Day. There’s going to be the largest demonstration ever on Inauguration Day. We’re also going to organize.”
    Moore also suggested that Trump could wind up getting impeached before his first term is up, saying, “He doesn’t support any ideology except the ideology of Donald J. Trump. And when you have a narcissist like that who’s so narcissistic where it’s all about him. He will break laws. He will break laws, because he’s only thinking about what’s best for him.”…
    The filmmaker also suggested that Democrats do as the Republicans have done and run Hollywood stars, something he also suggested in 2010.
    “Why don’t Democrats run more beloved Americans? Why don’t we run Tom Hanks? Why don’t we run Oprah? Tell me Oprah would lose,” he said.
    http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/michael-moore-morning-joe-why-donald-trump-won-45-minute-commercial-free-panel-946622

    but Michael, all those celebrities didn’t help Clinton, did they?

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    Dennis

    Who could possibly argue against this comment, that I changed …

    “We’ve got to stop thinking as black and white and purple and Arab. We’ve got to start thinking as Australians.”

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      PeterS

      Tell that to the leftists. They will never give up on identity politics – in fact they will try even harder from now on as they have the capacity to do nothing else – except to tell lies very well. Turnbull also better change face or else he will be perceived by everyone to be part of that evil group. I know – some already do but that’s in the minority so far. He has a window of opportunity to reflect on what’s happened with BREXIT and Trump, and to change his attitude. I personally doubt he will because he’s from the very same corrupt establishment that Trump has been and still is fighting. After all he worked at Goldman Sachs at very senior levels. Doesn’t mean he can’t change – people sometimes do. He has time to change so let’s wait and see.

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    pat

    true but very funny too…for those who have watched “Dirty Jobs”:

    12 Nov: WesternJournalism: Awesome Mike Rowe Explains The ‘Dirty Jobs’ Lesson Of This Election And Its Aftermath
    With his typical wit and wisdom …
    The former host of “Dirty Jobs” speaks blunt truth with uncommon joviality and earnestness…
    http://www.westernjournalism.com/thepoint/2016/11/11/awesome-mike-rowe-explains-the-dirty-jobs-lesson-of-this-election-and-its-aftermath/

    who do they think they are?

    11 Nov: Yahoo: AFP: Obama to meet Xi, European allies next week: White House
    In Athens, Greece, the birthplace of democracy, Obama will deliver a speech that now ***throbs with historical significance.
    Across America and the world, questions are being raised about Trump’s respect for the rule of law and the separation of powers.
    Rhodes said that Obama would address “the need to respond effectively to the issues that have been raised by globalization.”
    That, he said, includes the fallout from Britain’s vote to leave the European Union and America’s own election.
    https://www.yahoo.com/news/obama-meet-xi-european-allies-next-week-164822218.html

    articles on same page – imagine if the media was equally interested in the Trump supporters who are celebrating his win?

    Samantha Bee has a few choice words for white people after this election – Mashable
    Like most other late night TV hosts, Samantha Bee is reeling from Donald Trump’s victory in the presidential election.
    “The Caucasian nation showed up in droves to vote for Trump,” she said, “so I don’t want to hear a goddamn word about black voter turnout”.

    Dwayne ‘The Rock’ Johnson’s heartfelt message following Donald Trump win: ‘Lead by example’ – International Business Times UK

    ‘Subway Therapy’: Artist creates an outlet for post-presidential-election venting in NYC – Yahoo
    New York commuters are venting anger and frustration over Donald Trump’s surprising victory in the presidential election by indulging in collective therapy — writing messages on Post-it notes and sticking them on a subway wall. “Am I the only one who is scared?” reads one message…

    Trump’s Victory Buoying White Nationalists, Anti-Discrimination Advocates Say

    Ku Klux Klan to Hold Donald Trump Victory Parade in North Carolina

    Megyn Kelly Memoir Bombshell: Was the Fox News Anchor Poisoned Prior to First Republican Primary Debate?

    Stunned By Trump, The New York Times Finds Time For Some Soul-Searching

    Melania Trump Wore a Funereal Black Dress at the White House

    Hold on a second: An analyst sees path to Trump-Clinton tie – Newsweek

    Millions sign petition urging Electoral College to elect Hillary Clinton

    Protests after Donald Trump’s victory Yahoo News Photo

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    Kurtz himself was unfair to The Donald, but his call for fairness now is welcome nonetheless:

    VIDEO: 3mins57secs: 11 Nov: RealClearPolitics: Howard Kurtz: The Media Has Got To Come To Grips That Clinton Lost And Trump Won
    In a commentary for FOX News, media reporter Howard Kurtz said it is time for the press to accept a President Trump and to cover him fairly. Kurtz said the media’s credibility has taken a hit and it will be difficult to win back the truth(should be “trust”) of readers and viewers…READ ALL
    http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2016/11/11/kurtz_the_media_has_got_to_come_to_grips_with_fact_that_clinton_lost_and_trump_won.html

    11 Nov: RealClearPolitics: Ian Schwartz: CNN Investigates Why Latinos In Florida Voted For Trump: “Silent Majority Has Won”
    CNN’s Randi Kaye goes to a Cuban diner in Orlando to get the Latino reaction to a Trump victory. CNN found that Latinos in Florida have a problem with people illegally entering the country…
    The stunned CNN anchor said Florida Latinos “loved that he isn’t politically correct.”…
    “Do you think everyone should go through the front door as you say like you did?” the CNN correspondent asked.
    “If you go to somebody’s house, you go through the front door,” he responded…
    Transcript:
    AMAPOLA HANSBERGER, VOTED FOR DONALD TRUMP: To me, it’s a miracle. It’s a miracle.
    D. TRUMP: Thank you.
    KAYE: CNN’s exit polls showed 35 percent of Latino voters in Florida chose Trump…
    SANTIAGO: I am very happy about the wall and I hope it does happen…
    SANTIAGO: He is a businessman and that to me was very important because I am a businesswoman myself…
    KAYE: …They love this country, Anderson (Cooper), and they believe that he does too.
    http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2016/11/11/cnn_investigates_why_latinos_in_florida_voted_for_trump_silent_majority_has_won.html

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    philthegeek

    Lol! Yup the poor misunderstood DLDonald.

    Its not really fair to accuse the media of bias when sooooooooooooo much of the impression of Trump as a sexist, misogynist racist macroeconomic illiterate is based on what he has been actually, provably said and taken positions on.

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      AndyG55

      PRESIDENT ELECT TRUMP :-)

      Cry me a river, phloptheguk.

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      AndyG55

      And guess what, phloppy little petal…

      There is absolutely NOTHING you, or the biased, lying MSM can do about it.

      The REAL people have spoken :-)

      Get used to it. :-)

      He is no sexist or racist, he employs strong common-sense people of both genders and of many races. Race and gender just don’t come into it.
      ABILITY does.. something you could never comprehend.

      You get your ignorance from the massively biased, lying, MSM…
      … and you fall for that base-level propaganda every time.
      because you are GULLIBLE.. BRAIN-WASHED.. and NON-THINKING.

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        ROM

        Its OK “AndyG55″

        We are merely seeing what appears to be another low level form of elitist ******* who is a very strong believer in our system of Democracy when his personal choice of candidate is voted into a position.

        As we are now seeing and experiencing across the whole spectrum of the increasingly arrogant and despicable elites, when another candidate the elists don’t approve of is voted in by a majority of other members of the community under an accepted and functioning and fair and democratic voting system then the whole democratic voting system is completely stuffed up and must be changed immediately because those other ignorant voting dipsticks were too stupid to elect the elitist’s choice of candidates.

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      AndyG55

      I’d be willing to bet that Trump’s knowledge of every sort of economics was several magnitudes higher that yours, phloptheguk.

      You are EMPTY, as usual.

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        philthegeek

        Come in you reliable little spinner. :)

        The good thing about you Andy is you can always be relied upon to not address anything actually posted, (like that DLDonald has actually on the record said and how that informs opinion about him) but just erupt like a popped boil into entertainingly dribbly abuse.

        ROM.

        then the whole democratic voting system is completely stuffed up and must be changed immediately because those other ignorant voting dipsticks were too stupid to elect the elitist’s choice of candidates.

        I have neither said nor imputed that in any of my comments. I don’t believe that American voters are ” ignorant voting dipsticks” and firmly believe they have the right to chose as they will, and of course the responsibility to live with the consequences. In the US the “Leftie” protesters should pull their heads in and, the KKK types feeling all puffed up and proud of their bile at the moment should do the same.

        Still, fear not deplorable little ones, normal programming and the march towards One World Gov and complete control of the world by the dark and spooky forces ( that people here here seem to be rather familiar with strangely enough?? hmmmm) will no doubt resume shortly. The Collective will let DLDonald run free for a while and then negotiate with or just outright reprogram his hair. Unless his 10 year old cyber-security super son thwarts the plan outlined last meeting……..??

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          AndyG55

          So yet again, another empty meaningless rant from phlop in a vain attempt to hide his utter despair.

          GET OVER IT, and get your nappy changed, phloptheguk !

          President elect DONALD TRUMP. !!

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            clive

            “Politicians are like nappies. They should be changed often and for the same reason”
            God Bless America and Trump/Pence as they right this ship

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          AndyG55

          “the march towards One World Gov ”

          Your life controlled for you in every aspect by UN-elected totalitarian bureaucrats.

          Being told when and what to think by a far-left MSM guided by those unelected swill.

          I do understand why a child-mind like yours would find that a way to exist.

          Not much change from your current pathetic life.

          Zero thought needed, just do as you are told.. follow your orders.

          You do know that you would be right at the very bottom of that chain, don’t you.

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          AndyG55

          ““ the KKK types feeling all puffed up and proud of their bile at the moment should do the same.”

          So we both agree that Hillary’s troops should cease and desist their incessant bile… good.

          You still haven’t figured out that is the far left that is constantly pushing the racist angle, have you, little non-observant child.

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          Raven

          Come in you reliable little spinner. :)

          So, you admit you’re merely trolling.
          Thanks for that.

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            AndyG55

            Poor little flip-phlop STILL hasn’t seen me holding the other end of the line and giving it little tweaks.

            So hilarious to watch his baseless ego taking control and giving up his troll agenda.

            Even the name I selected for him was a hint.

            Poor little flip-phlop.. played like a little mullet every time. :-)

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            philthegeek

            And here is just so easy. Post any word. Seriously, almost any word will do, pretty much anything and he reacts several posts for one. Trolling yup, :) but today actually more of an experimental nature while a bit bored to see just how much or little it takes. The angry dumpf is strong with this one.

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            AndyG55

            roflmao. !

            I told you that you couldn’t escape.

            Again your baseless ego and false intelligence proves I was correct.. thanks. :-)

            I am now IN YOUR MIND.

            Sleep well little minnow. :-)

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      Philthegeek, missed the main reason why Trump won,a 6:11 long Video:

      President Trump: How & Why…

      Leftists has a bad habit of calling anyone who didn’t agree with them, Racists,climate denier and so on.The overpowering fear of a rational debate was simply not considered to be a detriment to their message.Better to just call non democrats,Racists,Homophobes and so on.

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        philthegeek

        Meh… not so much. Every one on all sides will want to simplify, get it down to “This is the REASON” and make sure that “reason ” is an issue that is dear to them. I reckon its more complex than that and stuff that has been building for a long time. Democrats and others just didn’t recognize it and if they did, considered Trump such an egregiously unelectable git he wasn’t a threat.

        I mean, you wouldn’t let your dog ride alone in a limo with Trump, much less your daughter.

        Trump has said some words people about 25 / 26% of the US really wanted to hear (basic sales) and now he has to try and satisfy his new “customers”. Be an interesting ride, but, the “Branding of Trump as a misogynist, racist, climate denier and so on …… is all based on his actual words an positions the has publicly taken. He seems fine owning that or he wouldn’t have said the stuff he has.

        Lol! Saw some discussion today about pardons. :) Word is that Obama should issue a Nixon style pardon to Trump to make sure he has a chance to try and prove himself.

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          AndyG55

          Another BASELESS RANT from flip-phlop.

          Stay on the line, little fishy.. too much fun ! :-)

          Donald Trump is President Elect..

          He is neither racist or a misogynist. The staff he hires proves that.

          He hire on ability.. something you are massively jealous of because you will never have it.

          You have again been SUCKED IN by the MSM, because you are a GULLIBLE non-thinking little minnow.

          Get your nappy changed and get over it, little child.

          ( now prove you are not my little plaything ;-) )

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            AndyG55

            Come on phloppy !!

            You can’t resist me…

            come on, little phloppy. :-)

            Sleep now, sweet dreams….. but you will return ..

            .. because you are now baited and on my hook :-)

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          Mark D.

          I mean, you wouldn’t let your dog ride alone in a limo with Trump, much less your daughter.

          ALl wrong Geek. My dog is big and mean he’ll have no problem. I wouldn’t let my daughter anywhere near Bill Clinton. I wouldn’t let my son anywhere near you.

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          PhilJourdan

          Your ignorance of America and the American people is duly noted. While only about half of the eligible voters actually vote, you can consider them part of a huge statistical sample representing the entire nation. So at least half heard and liked what they heard.

          Second, your information comes exclusively from the MSM, which hates him. Since when did your enemies define who you were? You bleat the same old tired and trite ad hominems against him like all the good sheep of the left. And yet, when challenged to produce ANY evidence, much less proof, you come up short. You know what you believe to be true because someone told you it was true. And you never bother to research the actual truth, instead bleating in line with the rest of the sheep.

          I know you think you are clever, and you go around patting yourself on your back. But when you speak, the rest look at you like a fool. Children think they are so clever as well, and loving adults merely nod and let them believe so because it is the illusion of childhood. But children must grow up. Yet some never do.

          It is time for you to grow up. If you want to discuss issues about foreign lands, learn about them. Do not get your talking points and think you know everything. Talking points are nothing. And indeed they show a lack of intelligence and knowledge to those using them.

          You are the reason that a pregnant woman was attacked and denied access to a hospital. You are the reason that murderers are now celebrated as victims. You are the reason for the attacks on innocent people solely due to their race. You are the reason for the hate.

          And the worst part is, this will go right over your head as you jump to deny responsibility, while at the same time perpetuating the violence and hate.

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    ROM

    I could go on at my usual length on this subject. [ I have!!! ]

    Suffice to say that through out my life as I look back, whenever the mass of the populace begins to talk about, discuss and vigorously wave every appendage both for and against some previously well hidden or never discussed or debated aspect of our society and culture but which has been recently recognised as a growing societal problem, an increasingly nasty societal tumour, then change, often big changes are already underway in our society and culture as far as that societal problem, that potential societal tumour are concerned.

    We are seeing gross hypocrisy from the elites along with a massive breakdown in the media’s impartiality in every department along with a huge load of pure unadulterated bigotry against anybody who doesn’t follow the bigoted pathway of most of the elitists and it’s ethics and moral free propaganda arm, the MSM.

    Possibly soon to be dramatically reduced as people just simply stop buying, reading and looking at the MSM .

    Already the elitist controlled MSM is rapidly losing its control over the news and information systems as over 60% of Americans now get most of their news and information from the social media which itself is now coming under very heavy fire from numerous sources for the way in which it is presenting that news and information and allowing dramatically false, misleading, denigrating and fake information to be propagated through its channels.

    The open discussion, the open scorn, the distaste and the increasingly vicious sarcasm being directed at the elites in whatever sphere in society they occupy is another very recent development indeed.
    The power of the backlash against the elites is becoming such that politicians will be forced to begin to find ways to neuter or even eliminate, re-democratise the elites hold on the levers of power in our democracy.
    Trump’s election is another indicator of this backlash against the elites

    In this context and with regard to all those elite and MSM promoted and engineered riots against Trump’s election, it is now being pointed out by some pollsters and some political analysts that a lot of those low income whites who are being so savagely disparaged by the media and Soros’s minions actually voted for Obama at the last two presidential elections.
    They just had had enough of the Democrats forcing of somebody unwanted by most of those low income whites onto them as a almost guaranteed President who offered no hope of any change to their lives and circumstances .
    So they voted for Trump who at least offered change and perhaps Hope!

    So much for any analysis or impartiality or even any minute level of research by the bigoted progressive, hard left American and Australian MSM as they disparage and denigrate at every turn the Trump voters.

    We are seeing a similar gross unfettered hypocrisy and bigotry from the inner city greens and Silicon Valley types who assume they are the unchallengeable masters of the universe.

    For the first time the Silicon Valley type, high income, academically orientated bigot’s attitudes is being openly talked about in numerous blogs and publicly accessible web sites.
    And the Silicon Valley types are beginning to writhe as the spotlight is put on them and they are being forced to justify their attitudes or wear the consequences further along in time.
    Failure to halt their arrogance and condescending attitudes towards citizens not as lucky or fortunate or blessed or supported academically by the taxes of those same denigrated low status citizens will invariably lead to a high level of distaste and ultimately contempt leading to a reduction in vital funding and a lowering of respect and regard for Silicon Valley type individuals.

    All this and and so much more are all now coming out and being forced out into the open by a society overturning and democratically elected Trump to the US Presidency.

    The very fact that all this previously non discussed but now rapidly unraveling of attitudes, bigotry, bias, mis-information, deliberate slandering and gross denigration of individuals is now coming into the open and is going to have very far reaching consequences for the perpetrators of these attitudes and the arrogant culture of such a group.

    It will drive new far more citizen orientated leaders into emergence and prominence who will probably decide that the worst of those entrenched elitist elements which are steadily decaying into quasi criminal sectors of society will be defanged and even eliminated as new societal counters emerge from the overturning of the supposedly well established elitist / MSM societal structures and the old increasingly based on bigotry and deliberate ignoring and exclusion cultures are degraded and dismantled.

    It is only when we look back can many of these major societal events and changes in our society, subtle as they are, be readily identified.

    Brexit was the harbinger of major change for the western world.
    Trump’s overturning of what was the elites guaranteed continued access to raw unlimited influence and power will be another driver of societal change across the western world with unpredictable consequences for the nations of the world everywhere.

    We here in Australia were amongst the first with the election of Abbott but Abbott and the Australian electors were ahead of the times and there will be other chances and other times still ahead.
    We will repeat this Australian societal change in the not so distant future as the impact of Trump and Brexit and who knows what is to come once again changes the way we look at our political and social culture.

    When and how and what shape the changes will take, Who knows but it will happen.

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    definitely not fair, and not what taxpayers pay ABC to do:

    ABC’s Rod Quinn “Overnights” – “This audio is not available” is says at ABC link for 12 Nov program – heard 2 anti-Trump correspondents from US. at various times, Trump = rubbish, nonsense, said one correspondent. Quinn hopes Obama told Trump he is disgusting and to stop using Twitter when he moves into the White House.
    (Rod – perhaps Obama could tell Trump to replace Twitter with golf).
    correspondent on reaction in NYC on election night – people cried, were in shock. disbelief. cried. cried.

    AUDIO: 3mins09secs: 12 Nov: ABC The Science Show: The scientific literacy of president-elect Trump
    In almost two years of campaigning, Donald Trump said little about the value of science to our understanding of our world or economic growth. The editors of Scientific American selected tweets from president-elect Trump on scientific issues. They are read by Jonathan Webb. (Introduced by the smug Robyn Williams)
    Further Information: Trump’s Views on Science Are Shockingly Ignorant – Scientific American November 2016

    Nov Issue: Scientific American Editorial: Trump’s Views on Science Are Shockingly Ignorant
    His statements show a disregard for science that is alarming in a candidate for high office
    One of the major-party presidential candidates has had plenty to say during this year’s campaign. But almost none of the words from Donald J. Trump have been about the importance of science and science literacy to the nation’s economic growth, security and international prestige—as well as to the health and well-being of the American people and the future of the planet itself. Trump has, however, made statements about science over the years, many of them in the form of tweets. They betray his beliefs about scientific issues, so we are reprinting a selection of them here. We have not fact-checked them…TWEETS
    https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/trump-comments-on-science-are-shockingly-ignorant/

    LinkedIn: Jonathan Webb: Science writer and broadaster, lapsed neuroscientist – Sydney
    Content Director for Science and Health, ABC Radio National
    Australian Broadcasting Corporation (ABC)
    October 2016 – Present …
    Previous: BBC News, Freelance; University of Oxford
    I have just moved from London to Sydney to take up the new role of Content Director for the science unit at ABC RN.
    Back in the UK, I was a science reporter working across online, radio and TV for BBC News. I started at the BBC on a bursary in May 2014, after completing a PhD in neuroscience at the University of Oxford…

    the ABC boss needs to inform the staff to pull their heads in. the mocking is getting very tired & can have consequences. Pauline might have to be appointed a Donald Trump go-between for Canberra!

    10 Nov: UK Telegraph: Nigel Farage to be Donald Trump’s go-between as Boris Johnson rejects ‘collective whinge-o-rama’ By Christopher Hope, Chief Political Correspondent; Peter Dominiczak, Political Editor; Ruth Sherlock and Barney Henderson
    It came as it emerged that ministers will use Nigel Farage as an unofficial intermediary to build bridges with Donald Trump to ensure the “special relationship” does not falter in the wake of his election.
    The Telegraph understands that ministers will be forced to seek Mr Farage’s advice because they have no links to the President-elect’s inner circle…
    Mr Farage – who joined Mr Trump on the campaign trail – told the Telegraph the relationship between Mr Trump’s Republican Party and the Conservatives has “completely broken down”.
    It is understood that Liam Fox, the International Trade Secretary who has links to the Republican Party, now intends to speak to Mr Farage before attempting to hold talks with senior Trump advisers…
    On Thursday it emerged that senior figures in Whitehall have in recent months warned that the Government was not taking seriously enough the prospect of a Trump presidency…
    It has also been claimed that Sir Kim Darroch, Britain’s ambassador to the US, did not do enough to develop close links with Mr Trump’s campaign in the build-up to the presidential election…
    But Mr Farage says that he is the only British politician who has “offered help or support” to Mr Trump.
    Mr Farage says that he perceived snubs towards Mr Trump have damaged the relationship between the UK and USA.
    He says: “Of Britain’s relationship there is going to be a slightly difficult start. Nobody in the British government has reached out to his campaign, believing as with our referendum that he could not possibly win.
    “The traditional relationship between the British Conservative party and the Republicans has completely broken down.”…
    Any issue between Mr Trump and Mrs May goes back to December 2015, when Mr Trump was criticised by the then Home Secretary…
    Mr Johnson, who was mayor of London at the time, said his views were “ill-informed” and “complete and utter nonsense”.
    Mr Trump was also left furious after MPs in Parliament debated whether Mr Trump should be banned from the UK, even threatening to withdraw £600 million of planned investment in Scotland.
    Before speaking to Mrs May at 1.45pm on Thursday, Mr Trump spoke to the leaders of Egypt, Ireland, Mexico, Israel, Turkey, India, Japan, Australia and South Korea.
    It is traditional for one of a President-elect’s first calls to be to the British prime minister in recognition of the long-standing “special relationship”.
    Sources close to Mr Trump insisted that the order of the calls was random…

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    Peter C

    Around the world many people remain baffled as to how 60 million US citizens could vote for the sexist, racist, trash talking Trump. In one survey only 4% of Germans said they would vote for him. Here in Australia I don’t know the numbers,

    Surveys can be strangely misleading. I do not now how valid this survey is because the voters were self selecting. Some one here on the blog put me on to it about 3 posts ago.
    https://worldwide.vote/hillary-vs-trump/#/results/total

    Germany (10,203 votes) and 67% for Trump.
    Australia (15261 votes) and 63% for Trump

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      Ian Hill

      That’s consistent with a ninemsn poll which started out strongly favouring Clinton 67% to Trump 33% but as the day went on it switched to 40% to 60% respectively before settling down at about 45% to 55%. I didn’t write down the numbers but there would have been over 100,000 votes cast.

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    Ollie

    Long time lurker. I quite love the site for its insight and gives me quite a lot of information on topics I have not the knowledge or specialisation. My point I wish to make though is on facebook I suffer unbelievable abuse as I try to make sense of supposed friends meme’s and political thought by engaging in debate on subjects that quite frankly dismay me as to their thought process’s. I have been threatened, abused, blocked and add to it all, unfriended. From reading this blog and othersin sesrch of knoweledge, I am totally frustrated as to my next step. What to do.

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      Ollie, a really good question. Have you got a link so we can see the examples. I’m sure there are a lot of people who would like to know what to do with that…

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      AndyG55

      Easy, Don’t use FacePlant..

      It is a totally unnecessary part of life.

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      Rick Will

      Maybe 10 years ago the weather was a safe topic for polite conversation in open company. That is no longer the case. Facebook is useful for communicating your special activities you might want to share with a group of others possibly interested in what you are doing. It is not a good place to offer opinions on politics, religion and weather if you want the conversation to remain polite.

      Suggest that you discuss those topics with others either face-to-face, via email, private chat or telephone. The majority of people are well intentioned but many are quite naive on topics that involve maths and science. It no longer surprises me the poor correlation between credentials and talent. I have seen so-called experts in their field regurgitating what they were taught that has been long since proven wrong. They have never made the effort to verify/test what they read in a book or their teacher/lecturer/professor told them. We have a whole generation of kids being brainwashed on Climate Change and they are not equipped with the reasoning ability to make their own assessment.

      I offer some thoughts for discussing the “weather” with “Friends”.

      With regard to climate, the earth is cooled by its atmosphere. This is even acknowledged by the IPCC:
      http://www.ipcc.ch/ipccreports/far/wg_I/ipcc_far_wg_I_chapter_02.pdf
      page 48 second paragraph
      “The strength of the greenhouse effect can be gauged by the difference between the effective emitting temperature of the Earth as seen from space (about 255K) and globally-averaged surface temperature (about 285K). The principal components of the greenhouse effect are the atmospheric gases (Section 2 2 2), clouds and aerosols also absorb and emit thermal infrared radiation but they also increase the planetary albedo, and it is believed that the net effect is to cool the surface ..”
      my bold-

      The first part regarding the 255K emitting temperature is based on some mythical black body radiator that has no bearing to anything on or above earth. How could anyone make a realistic assumption that the blue marble is anything like a black body:
      https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/d/db/Nasa_blue_marble.jpg/585px-Nasa_blue_marble.jpg

      The final sentence in the IPCC report about believing the atmosphere cools is correct. The atmosphere acts as a refrigerant, taking heat from the surface mostly through evaporation of water but also conduction and radiation, then expanding and cooling as it rises through the troposphere ultimately radiating the energy to space rises due to the presence of water vapour and other radiative gases like CO2 as it thins and reabsorption reduces.

      The cooling effect of evaporation is something we all experience when we perspire. That heat is taken into the atmosphere and eventually radiated to space.

      The surface of Earth, which is dominated by water, would be much hotter if the atmosphere did not cool it. Water is a highly selective surface to radiation. High energy radiation penetrates to significant depth but low energy infrared is only transmitted from the surface. Solar ponds exploit this property of water and they reach temperatures approaching boiling point:
      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Solar_pond

      The whole story on greenhouse gas is bogus because it starts out treating the earth as a black body, neglecting the radiative selectivity of water on the surface, to determine the mythical “greenhouse effect” of the atmosphere heating the surface then, irrationally applying the radiation selectivity to the water vapour and other radiative gases in the atmosphere to postulate they cause the heating – it is clearly inconsistent nonsense where radiation selectivity is used in one way and then simply neglected when it matters. Particularly when they state their belief that the atmosphere cools the surface!

      Earth’s atmosphere was much denser when the planet was forming. It was predominantly CO2 with roughly existing levels of nitrogen and oxygen by weight but, apart from a tiny trace of CO2 now, it has all been sequestered predominantly through various life forms that have existed throughout the ages. Vast amounts as limestone and subsequently marble and a smaller but still huge amount in carbon and hydrocarbon fossil fuels. Over time plant life has evolved to get by on reducing concentration of CO2 but over the last few decades plant growth is more vigorous due to the increasing level of CO2.

      Climate Change is an alternate reality evolving from primitive weather models that has managed to garner political force due to the ability of governments to gain tax revenue from the deception, the banks to operate markets that trade carbon credits, creaming their margin on the exchange and the renewable energy industry to get fat and lazy suckling on the teat of transfer payments for so-called clean energy.

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      toorightmate

      The USA saved us in WW2.
      They might just save us all from the CO2 hoax.

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      Vlad the Impaler

      At the ripe old age of 68, I’ve never used any of the so-called, “social media” (and, BTW, do not even have a cell phone). I have a wonderful, full and active life. Consider what you can/would do w/o FaceTube.

      Regards,

      Vlad

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        PhilJourdan

        I have yet to reach that ripe old age (but not by much), and like you have none of those accounts. My reasoning is simple. There is no expectation of privacy on those sites. And unlike the snowflakes, I do not want my entire life on the Internet.

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    the hypnotised media:

    originally, Why did Hillary and Bill Clinton wear purple during her concession speech? now changed to:

    9 Nov: Quartz: Marc Bain: SARTORIAL SYMBOLISM: Hillary Clinton chose to deliver her inspiring concession speech in bipartisan purple
    Democrat Hillary Clinton faced the most difficult task of her run for the presidency today… She appeared in a black suit with lapels and lining in bold purple.
    It suggested a mix of the red and blue that represent the Republican and Democratic parties, a poignant choice indicating bipartisanship and a need for Americans on both sides of the aisle to come together to work toward a common goal…
    On CNN, journalist and commentator Carl Bernstein reflected that purple is “the color of spirituality, the color of mourning, the color of mystery,” and called the image of Hillary and Bill Clinton standing side by side in matching purple “a tableaux of the Clintons and the best of what they stand for.”…
    Like white, purple was also a color favored by the suffrage movement. And in Clinton’s Methodist faith, purple signifies royalty and penitence…

    compare with:

    11 Nov: Yahoo: Lauren Tuck: Melania Trump Wore A Funereal Black Dress At The White House
    For the occasion, FLOTUS wore a navy blue Narciso Rodriguez dress with an artful orange and yellow stripe (this is her second time wearing the piece publicly; she chose it for her arrival in Argentina for an official state visit in March). She paired it with metallic Jimmy Choo heels. ***As for the former model***, her look was bit more simple, opting for a sleeveless black sheath…
    Melania, who usually favors clothing in light colors such as white, powder blue, and pink, wore a black ensemble at the third presidential debate in October. The Ralph Lauren jumpsuit with a pussy-bow tie detail had many social media users wondering if the dark shade symbolized that Melania was in mourning ***in anticipation of her husband losing the election
    And while he actually won and the presumption was premature, Twitter users found that the black look post-win actually symbolized something similar.
    TWEET: Melania looks like she is going to a funeral
    — Zelda dan (@Zeldadan2) November 10, 2016

    TWEET: melania mourning

    TWEET: MoreMichelle (our lovely First Lady ????) is wearing a nice colored dress. Melania the next flotus looks dressed for a funeral. How metaphorical https://t.co/yv4xwl0Ycd
    — Megan (@MHawkney) November 10, 2016

    @CBSNews I see Melania’s in mourning with most of the country.
    — Whitney (@WhitWright) November 10, 2016

    Melania, whose name comes from a Greek word meaning black or dark, has inspired lots of theories surrounding her wardrobe choices. Notably, to cast her vote on Election Day, she wore a white sheath dress from Michael Kors with a camel coat designed by Balmain. “Can’t help but wonder who she’s really voting for,” Susan Lamontagne asked, referencing the fact that lots of women showed up to the polls in white ensembles as a show of support for Hillary Clinton, because American suffragists protesting for the right to vote more than a century ago wore the color. The former Democratic presidential nominee wore the shade on multiple occasions to send just that message, and many assumed that Melania doing the same revealed she was ***secretly supporting Clinton. Melania also wore a $3,990 white jumpsuit early Wednesday morning as her husband delivered his victory speech. The one-piece was made by Ralph Lauren, the label of the majority of Clinton’s pantsuits throughout her campaign.
    https://www.yahoo.com/style/melania-trump-wore-a-funereal-black-dress-to-the-white-house-020357949.html

    it’s a sickness.

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    TdeF

    “sexist, racist, trash talking Trump”

    You can be sure that the very worst Trump was presented by the media, by the Clinton campaign. If he had done something really wrong, looked sideways at any woman, said something in a locker room, it would be front page news, done a fraction of what Bill is known to have done, we would have heard about it.

    Imagine if everyone’s life was under such immense scrutiny. They even had people coming out of his past with amazing stories which did not add up. We had the same here with a rival of Tony Abbotts from university days claiming he punched a wall. No witnesses, no confirmation, no report at the time, a sudden recollection backed up by a vague recollection from her campaign manager. Now a real boxer, an Oxford Blue in boxing would no more punch a wall than a pianist would, but it was headline news and hard questions had to be asked. Rubbish!

    So we can be sure we know Trump, the very worst things he could have said or things he has done in his past. If that’s all they have, they have nothing. He certainly did not attack the Clintons on sex, an easy target. He kept it about the country and the future.

    However no one examined the Clintons and there is just so much that is clearly criminal, irresponsible, dangerous, suspect but nothing was said except the the FBI and the NYPD and the server in the garage, the close relationship with Huma for twenty years and her connections with the Saudis and then Mr Weiner.

    Trump openly called her a criminal who was going to jail and there was nothing Hilary could say in response.

    It is clear that Trump is a clean skin, so they went the Abbott path. Mysogynist, sexist. I doubt his wives and children and friends would agree, or Abbott’s for that matter. When the attack gets down to sex, you know they have nothing.

    Either Obama or Trump may yet pardon Hilary when she is indicted. The Clinton financial empire is already collapsing because these old timers are past it, out of the corridors of power, discredited has beens who have no influence now. The very idea that Hilary would make a good President was amazing. How many people wanted her elected because she was a woman, not because she was the best for the job. That is how Obama was elected and a lot of people did not want another four year of Obama but worse.

    As with Gillard, it would have been great to have had a really good woman Prime Minister or a really good woman President, a Golda Meir or Margaret Thatcher or Indira Ghandi, but not Clinton and Gillard. It would hard to imagine people who could do a worse job. That is not equality of the sexes, it is in fact a form of sexism to give these women the job because they are women and despite the trail of criminality behind them.

    So we know all about Trump. Everything. If that’s the worst, he will be great at the job because we can see what he has done because his track record is amazing and he is not a crook.

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    11 Nov: UK Telegraph: More than 80 MPs join Lib Dem plot to force Government to hold a second referendum on Brexit terms
    By Christopher Hope, Chief Political Correspondent and Peter Dominiczak, Political Editor
    In a move that prompted anger from Conservative ministers a coalition of MPs led by Tim Farron, the Liberal Democrat leader, said that they now intend to force a vote calling for another referendum of the terms of Britain’s exit from the EU…
    However, Mr Farron on Friday went further and told the BBC: “Article 50 would proceed but only if there is a referendum on the terms of the deal and if the British people are not respected then, yes, that is a red line and we would vote against the government.”…
    One Lib Dem source said: “We are laying down a marker that we are the alternative voice on Brexit. We will vote for Article 50 as long as the public get a vote on the deal.
    “There will be two options – you accept the deal as it is or you vote to remain.”
    Labour has pledged not to block Article 50, but a number of Jeremy Corbyn’s backbenchers intend to defy him by calling for a second referendum.
    It came as it emerged that Government lawyers intend to use their appeal in the Supreme Court to argue that Brexit can be stopped…READ ON
    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/11/11/more-than-80-mps-join-lib-dem-plot-to-force-government-to-hold-a/

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    pat

    read all:

    11 Nov: GatewayPundit: Jim Hoft: Soros-funded Orgs behind violent anti-Trump protests across America
    http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2016/11/soros-funded-orgs-behind-violent-anti-trump-protests-across-america/

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    Dennis

    Defund All CSIRO Climate Change Research

    Viv Forbes

    It’s time to defund all CSIRO climate activities.
    For years now CSIRO and their UN/IPCC puppet-masters have claimed that “climate science is settled”. If so, why are Australian governments still wasting some $150M annually on creating climate scares and producing propaganda for a political war on carbon energy and carbon dioxide?
    CSIRO’s Larry Marshall (above) is besotted with developing water divining techniques and has taken over the CSIRO on a salary of $800,000 plus add-ons.
    Australia should cease all government funding for global warming “research” and carbon-centric climate models and leave the honest, useful and difficult business of weather forecasting to the BOM, which should revert to its once-proud name and role as “The Weather Bureau”.
    The neurotic focus of Australian politicians and their research puppets on the UN man-made global warming agenda has starved useful research into real factors that do affect global climate. These include cycles and oscillations in solar activity, cosmic rays and clouds, crustal and magmatic movements, volcanic eruptions, and the periodic changes in planetary orbits and axial tilts within the solar system.
    Australia is an island surrounded by the vast oceans of the Southern Hemisphere. But CSIRO is mesmerised by atmospheric greenhouse mirages and largely ignores the causes and timing of ENSO oscillations, the amount and locations of submarine volcanism, and the timing, drivers and locations of deep ocean currents and upwellings.
    If CSIRO and the government universities cannot do such basic research in our region their funds should be diverted to the deficit, or applied to weather-proofing our infrastructure.
    (Written today in Canberra while visiting the Australian Parliament to meet 65 global warming sceptics from Australia, Canada and USA at the invitation of Australian Senator Malcolm Roberts. The chair reserved for CSIRO was vacant all night as they declined an invitation to participate, and sent no apology.)

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      TdeF

      The very good point among others is to question why the CSIRO was competing with the BOM?

      When was the CSIRO about the weather, apart from the 50 year attempt to make it rain by cloud seeding, their most notorious project?

      Why did the CSIRO have 300 people ‘working’ on Climate Change? They say they are problem solvers. What exactly was the problem with the climate? An alleged 0.8C increase in a mean? Where are the drowned cities? Where in fact is the subsequent temperature rise? Any real scientist would have yelled ‘instrumentation change’.

      They seem as unaccountable as the ABC. Similarly with the absurd $300Million a year for a multi ethnic SBS charged with bringing ethnic content to the masses when they all get what they want by satellite or the internet. Sell the lot. Keep our AAA rating.

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        TdeF

        Where is the return on the $1.3Billion budget of the CSIRO? The $1.3Billion budget of the ABC. The $300Million budget of the SBS? What do we get for the $25Million budget of the disastrous Human Right Commission. As for the Renewable Energy Target, words fail. Why are we Australians paying billions and billions for absolutely nothing?

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          Dennis

          Because once upon a time we had elected representatives working for their constituents, now too many believe that they are the master class and they impose their will on the electorate with little regard for what constituents want or think about issues. Unless there is an election on the horizon and the master class sense that the voters are awake.

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        toorightmate

        Has the BoM managed to get those two rain gauges working in WA yet? It’s only been a few months.
        I guess it’s hard to find time to purchase a couple of rain gauges when everyone is so busy homogenising.
        Busy, busy, busy – wasting most of $1.3bn.

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    Another Ian

    “The President of the European Commission, Jean Claude Juncker, has unleashed a mean-spirited assault on President-elect Donald Trump, claiming that Mr. Trump didn’t know about Europe and that it would waste two years while he learned.”

    http://www.breitbart.com/london/2016/11/11/juncker-well-need-teach-trump-europe/

    Methinks he’s going to find out what Trump has in mind a damn site quicker than that!

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    ROM

    I smile!

    Back in Jo’s “US election results; Brexit” post a week or so back in Comment # 28.5 I suggested that the western world’s citizens generally turn to the political Right when the OPM runs out for the Left and the elites of the hard left become unbearably arrogant and overweening to the point that the ordinary citizen becomes totally fed up and wants something different that will give him/ her a better hope for the future.

    Seems there are others who are now beginning to think along the same lines in the lists establishments and socialistic media and are becoming very fearful of the probable political Right revenge outcomes for themselves.

    From the normally quite politically [ and climatically ] dishonest British BBC.

    Will Trump-style revolt engulf Europe?

    First Brexit, then US President-elect Donald Trump. Now the political earthquake rattling the West threatens liberal democratic leaders in Europe,

    Italy’s make-or-break vote

    Populist push in the Netherlands

    New French revolution?

    Resurgent German nationalists[ AfD; Alternative for Germany ]

    Suddenly the European Left Elitists are becoming scared, very scared indeed as are the EU dictators in Brussels as they can foresee the possibility / probability of their long decades of entrenching themselves as the leading power brokers in the world just unravelling within a very short period of time with a possibility of some quite serious political, legal and corruption revealing revenge implications

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    Analitik

    It’s really quite strange how the media keep banging on about Trump supporters being uninformed and uneducated. I have found the reverse to be true – those who have thoroughly investigated the candidates are more likely to support Trump and understand his approach during the primaries and the election.

    I will admit that I initially thought Trump was a self-seeking lightweight and hoped Ted Cruz would be the Republican nominee. It was only as the Republican primaries came towards its conclusion that I began to properly assess Trump’s statements and put them in context of a businessman in negotiation rather than a politician selling a message.

    Interestingly, I spoke today with a woman who used to be in commercial banking and found she fully grasped the reasons Trump won and why the media was totally caught unawares. I was initially restrained when we began discussing the US election as there are so many who are caught up in the “demagogue” meme but was able to frankly discuss the election and the likely consequences.

    I shouldn’t have been surprised as she is no one’s fool and fully aware of the current financial bubble (well recognised by Trump in the second debate) and she agrees with me that Yellen will finally lift the US Fed’s rates in the near future, now that a Republican will be taking office, and the economic correction will be global. Despite the pain that the recession will cause, there will be massive upsides (besides the revaluations) with the upcoming correction as there simply won’t be the easy financing available for stupidities like carbon taxes, renewables and EV subsidies. When times are tight, you have to get back to fundamentals so say goodbye to The Third Way.

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      toorightmate

      I find it intriguing that Trump’s main themes have not changed since he did the interview with Oprah in 1988. Most of us alter our stance on major issues to some degree over a 30 year time frame.

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      Raven

      I will admit that I initially thought Trump was a self-seeking lightweight and hoped Ted Cruz would be the Republican nominee.

      Yep . . me too, and mainly because Ted Cruz looked like a good performer on the global warming front.
      Similarly, I think what clinched Trump for me was that he was going to run the USA like a business.
      By contrast, Hillary would obviously continue running it like her piggy bank.

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    pat

    11 Nov: GatewayPundit: Jim Hoft: Far Left Group ANSWER Coalition Plans MASSIVE DEMONSTRATION Unrest during Trump Inauguration
    The group claimed to be an ***ANTI-WAR goup but remained silent during the Obama years as he drone bombed country after country across the Muslim world…
    The far left group announced the protest (LINK) on Wednesday…
    “Progressive people from all over the country will be descending on Washington DC on January 20 2017…READ ON
    http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2016/11/far-left-group-answer-coalition-plans-massive-demonstration-unrest-trump-inauguration/

    ***Aug 2013: WaPo: Brad Plumer: How Obama demobilized the antiwar movement

    PDF: 20 pages: 2011: THE PARTISAN DYNAMICS OF CONTENTION: DEMOBILIZATION OF THE ANTIWAR MOVEMENT IN THE UNITED STATES, 2007-2009
    Michael T. Heaney and Fabio Rojas
    (Assistant Professor of Organizational Studies and Political Science at the University of Michigan. Fabio Rojas is Associate Professor of Sociology at Indiana University, Bloomington)
    Drawing upon 5,398 surveys of demonstrators at antiwar protests, interviews with movement leaders, and ethnographic observation, this article argues that the antiwar movement demobilized as Democrats, who had been motivated to participate by anti-Republican sentiments, withdrew from antiwar protests when the Democratic Party achieved electoral success…
    While the election of Barack Obama had been heralded as a victory for the antiwar movement, Obama’s election, in fact, thwarted the ability of the movement to achieve critical mass…
    http://www-personal.umich.edu/~mheaney/Partisan_Dynamics_of_Contention.pdf

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    pat

    11 Nov: ClimateDepot: Marc Morano: Kerry’s personal ‘Bucket List’? No ‘real technically diplomatic’ reason for South Pole trip
    Reporters not buying explanations for Kerry ‘official’ visit to Antarctica
    Reporter to State Dept: Does Kerry ‘want to knock Antarctica off his bucket list’ at taxpayer expense?
    Update: ‘Bad weather’ cancels part of Antarctic tour – taken instead ‘to one of the few parts of Antarctica that are largely free of ice year-round’ (LINK)
    Earlier, a planned visit to the South Pole was scrapped because of bad weather. Instead, Kerry and members of his entourage were taken on a helicopter tour of the McMurdo Dry Valleys, one of the few parts of Antarctica that are largely free of ice year-round…
    State Department spokesman John Kirby on the cost to taxpayers of Secretary Kerry’s trip to the South Pole:
    “I– I– will see if I can get you– uh– an estimate. I don’t have that, but– uh– uh– I think– you know– eh– any basic understanding or attempt to understand climate change you have to understand what’s going on in the Arctic and the Antarctic, especially with melting glaciers and ice and the sea level rise that can come from that. […] He wanted to go down there and see that for himself.”…
    http://www.climatedepot.com/2016/11/11/kerrys-personal-bucket-list-no-real-technically-diplomatic-reason-for-south-pole-trip/

    what a difference an election makes!

    12 Nov: Guardian: Trump victory may embolden other nations to obstruct Paris climate deal
    EU concerns are growing that some oil-rich nations that have not yet ratified the deal could now try and slow action on reducing emissions
    by Arthur Neslen and Adam Vaughan
    Saudi Arabia has tried to obstruct informal meetings at the UN climate summit in Marrakech this week, and worries are rife that states which have not yet ratified the agreement could seek to slow action on carbon emissions. Trump has called global warming a hoax and promised to withdraw the US from the Paris accord…
    But Trump’s win spurred the EU president Jean-Claude Juncker to call for an urgent clarification by the president elect of the new US climate position.
    “We must know what climate policies he intends to pursue,” Juncker said in a speech in Berlin on Thursday. “This must be cleared up in the next few months.”.
    Some NGOs said that the potential ending of the US-China alliance that pushed through a deal in Paris has already spurred Saudi Arabia to step up disruptive efforts in talks.
    Safa al-Jayoussi, Climate Action Network’s Arab world co-coordinator, said that officials from Saudi Arabia, Qatar and other states had expressed relief at Trump’s victory because of his support for fossil fuels in his 100 days plan…
    While Russia is also a part of the “awkward squad” on climate issues – frequently raising unpredictable last-minute demands – these were usually more manageable within the UN talks process, Gallagher added…READ ALL
    https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2016/nov/11/trump-victory-may-embolden-other-nations-to-obstruct-paris-climate-deal?CMP=twt_gu

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    Oh my goodness! … I still can’t believe that TPTB let Donald Trump win. Now it is up to the Secret Service to consolidate the win over the next 4 years by keeping him safe and away from the grassy knolls.

    Totally shocked, and absolutely delighted! (for a change). Yes, the Establishment media, including the ABC, not only look totally discredited, but they seem in many ways to be doubling down on their hubris, which can only mean that their total annihilation will be even more total during the long game – AWESOME! Keep lying and distorting the truth MSM, you’ll just be making your graves much deeper, and impossible to get out of.

    When he reverses the ‘non-treaty-climate-treaty’ that Obama didn’t even ratify as a Constitutional Treaty, then all the CAGW alarmists will melt, and the cabal that seeks control over every human being using this fraud, will melt, and then we will all know that this man was truly a gift from God … but if he doesn’t, and I was getting used to feeling stabbed in the back (thanks Julia Gillard and Malcolm Turnbull), then we will know we have been conned.

    But until that hypothetical sad moment, Donald Trump has the benefit of the doubt, and if I wasn’t mistaken, Malcolm Turnbull looked like he had seen a ghost for the last few days – CLASSIC!!! I hope Tony Abbott is sharpening his political knives and getting ready for the AUSEXIT from the globalist trade treaty and carbon trading hell ride that Turnbull has been readying for our beautiful country.

    Never been more proud to be a ‘climate denier’ (aka, realist on paleo-climate truths, and brains before emotional manipulation – SJW disease).

    Thank you God! … and thank you Jo Nova for speaking the truth when 99% of the Aussie MSM was vomiting lie, after lie, after lie, after lie.

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    PeterS

    Have I missed something? I thought the elections are over, Clinton has admitted defeat and Trump is now President Elect who has already met President Obama to begin the transition. So what the hell are these protestors talking about? Go home you fools. If Trump does a bad job you will all have an opportunity to get rid of him in 4 years time at the next elections. Unless I’m mistaken the US Constitution still stands and so the people have spoken.

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      toorightmate

      The Left fully supports democracy, except when they lose.
      The said that if I voted for Trump, the streets would be full of riot police. They were correct.

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        philthegeek

        The Left fully supports democracy, except when they lose.

        Bit like DLDonald then. completely willing to accept the election result as long as he wins. :)

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          AndyG55

          So you support all those pathetic far-left LOSERS that refuse to accept that..

          DONALD TRUMP is PRESIDENT ELECT.

          Of course you accept the violence and totalitarian thuggery…

          ….. you are one of those puerile, anti-democracy cretins.

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          AndyG55

          Seems you actually condone this fascist, totalitarian, violence and thuggery organised by Soros and his mates.

          Why is that not a surprise.

          That is what losers do. !

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            Andrew McRae

            Oddly enough, the anti-Trump protests in Richmond contained some Antifascist Action flags being flown.
            http://imgur.com/gallery/HwZz4
            No three guesses as to which side they were on.

            It’s probably not too late to point out to the rabid Left that the same reason that many of Trump’s election promises could not be believed is the same reason electing Trump can’t result in fascism: no matter who holds it, the executive office of President has both powers and limitations which are policed by the courts and legislature and so many things Trump wanted to do require Congressional approval first. The USA government system was constructed in such as manner as to make Fascism very difficult, so it doesn’t rely upon the individual being elected.

            Sorry, I’m making sense again, aren’t I? Very unfashionable.

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              AndyG55

              “Not my President”

              Nope… your PRESIDENT ELECT,

              Grow up and get over it, little weasels. :-)

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              PhilJourdan

              The only thing they did not tell you was that the protesters at that rally were all from out of town, except for a couple of folks whose only job is protesting.

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          AndyG55

          Fortunately, TRUMP is PRESIDENT ELECT, so we will never know.

          He certainly wouldn’t have organised thug mobs even if Clinton and her cronies had been able to rig and falsify the election enough to overcome THE WILL OF THE PEOPLE.

          That is very much a left totalitarian activity.

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    pat

    12 Nov: AsiaSentinel: Marrakech Climate Talks Thrown into Confusion by US Election
    “The Paris Agreement was signed and ratified not by a President, but by the United States itself,” said Jean Su from the Center for Biological Diversity. “One man alone, especially in the 21st Century, should not strip the globe of the climate progress that it has made and should continue to make.”…
    US Secretary of State John Kerry is due here next week to lead the US delegation’s participation in the discussions…
    Concerns have already emerged in Marrakech that despite the Paris agreement, the major developed countries have not begun to earmark the billions of dollars that will be necessary for the world to meet its commitments. With the danger that the US will pull out, the talks have been thrown into confusion…
    Carol Muffet, president of the Center for International Environmental Law, agreed. “As a matter of international law, and as a matter of human survival, the nations of the world can, must, and will hold the United States to its climate commitments.”…
    Becky Chung, a first-time voter and who is currently participating in the conference says she will not tolerate Trump’s denial of the action needed for climate justice…
    Similarly, the World Wildlife Fund’s (WWF) senior director of international climate cooperation Marianna Panuncio-Feldman says this is “a new administration and a new opportunity to surge forward on climate action.”…
    Others, however, remind the newly elected president that climate change will not wait for anyone before it strikes and that ***in some countries, climate change is happening right now.
    http://www.asiasentinel.com/politics/marrakech-climate-talks-confusion-us-election/

    10 Nov: InvestorsBusinessDaily: Kerry Jackson: As Many As Half Of Global Warming Alarmist Research Papers Might Be Wrong
    According to the foreword of “Peer Review: Why Skepticism Is Essential,” written by Donna Laframboise for the Global Warming Policy Foundation, “a significant part of the references in the fourth assessment” of the United Nations’ Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change report were made “to ‘gray literature.’ ”
    “That is, press releases, ‘reports’ from pressure groups and the like, which are not remotely the normal peer-reviewed scientific literature.” In other words, IPCC-referenced propaganda…
    Laframboise says science is plagued with an “reproducibility crisis,” meaning that published findings cannot be independently verified. She believes that “there is no reason to believe that the politically charged arena of climate science is exempt from” the problems found in other scientific research, “or that it doesn’t share the alarming rates of irreproducibility observed in medicine, economics and psychology.”
    “Currently, climate research is not subjected to meaningful due diligence prior to the IPCC presenting it as sound in its reports,” Laframboise writes.
    “Until key climate findings meet a higher standard than mere peer review, we cannot claim that our climate policies are evidence-based.”…
    But the alarmist community isn’t interested in evidence. It is consumed with fueling panic and creating a climate of fear, and goes out of its way to bully those who don’t agree with its narrative…
    http://www.investors.com/politics/columnists/as-many-as-half-of-global-warming-alarmist-research-papers-might-be-wrong/

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    john

    Tears, angst as workforce braces for Trump takeover

    http://www.eenews.net/stories/1060045642

    U.S. EPA employees were in tears. Worried Energy Department staffers were offered counseling. Some federal employees were so depressed, they took time off. Others might retire early.

    And some employees are in downright panic mode in the aftermath of Donald Trump’s victory.

    “People are upset. Some people took the day off because they were depressed,” said John O’Grady, president of American Federation of Government Employees Council 238, a union that represents thousands of EPA employees. After Election Day, “people were crying,” added O’Grady, who works in EPA’s Region 5 office in Chicago. “They were recommending that people take sick leave and go home.”

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    Mark D.

    A friend set me the following. I have not verified it but heck he’s already won the election. If this information is true then the reason the media and the lame Left can’t stand Trump is that he’s so NORMAL! He’s living the American dream. He’s successful.

    All things that the Left hates

    Read and enjoy:

    ********************************************
    * Donald John Trump, was born June 14, 1946.
    * He will be 70 years old on election day.
    * From the Internet, he is 6’2″ or 6’3′ and weighs between 195 and 200 lbs.
    * He has a full head of blond/brown hair (which is long and
    elaborately combed) and blue eyes.
    * The Internet tells us he wears a size 12 shoe.
    * Donald Trump was born the fourth of five children who were born over eleven years.
    * The oldest, Mary Ann, was born in 1937 and is currently a Federal Judge.
    *& nbsp; His older brother, Fred Jr, died in early adulthood as a result of
    complications from alcoholism.
    * He has another older sister, Elizabeth and a younger brother,
    Robert.
    * Donald Trump has been married three times.
    * Trump’s first wife, Ivana, was an immigrant from Czechoslovakia and a divorcee who has been married 4 times in her life. She is a lifelong avid skier and worked in design at the Trump Organization.
    * Marla Maples, Trump’s second wife is an actress and model
    * Trump’s third wife, Melania is an immigrant from Slovenia (born in Yugoslavia) and has been a super model.
    * Two of Trump’s children, Donald Jr and Ivanka, have gone to Penn. Son Eric, went to Georgetown.
    * Donald Trump tells us that he is Presbyterian.
    * Donald Trump does not appear to have had any interest in occults, mysticism or exotic mythologies.
    * Donald Trump’s oldest daughter, Ivank a, and her three children are Jewish.
    * Trump’s oldest daughter, Ivanka, is married to Jared Kushner who is, among other things, a newspaper publisher. The Kushner family is very successful in New York City area real estate.
    * Donald’s grandmother, mother, first wife, and third wife are all
    immigrants.
    * Donald Trump was born and raised in Queens NY.
    * Though his family was very wealthy, Trump’s boyhood home in the Jamaica Estates section of Queens was not a grand mansion. The Trump home was a larger version of the homes Fred Trump was building for his tenants.
    * There are no indications that the Trump family lived among the
    wealthy elites on vacations or country clubs.
    * Queens is the largest of New York’s five boroughs and the most
    ethnically diverse.
    * Trump attended a local private day school, the Kew Forrest School, in Queens until about 8th grade.
    * His secondary schooling was at New York Military Academy which is about 60 miles north of NYC in Cornwall on the Hudson. He was the class of 1964.
    * Trump was never a “Preppie”.
    * Trump never embraced any aspect of the “Hippie” movement of the time.
    * Trump was a very good high school athlete – football, soccer, and especially baseball He had potential to become a professional baseball player.
    * Even in high school – Trump liked women and women liked him.
    * Trump was generally popular in high school.
    * Trump’s boarding school room mate liked him.
    * He attended Fordham University in NYC for two years and
    transferred to the University of Pennsylvania’s Wharton School of Business.
    * At that time, the Wharton School offered a rare program for Real
    Estate Business.
    * Though he was of age, Donald Trump did not serve in Vietnam.
    * He was not drafted due to bone spurs in his heels (4F) and also
    student deferments.
    * Ultimately, in the draft lottery, he drew a high number.
    * By all we know, Donald Trump does not smoke, drink or use
    recreational drugs. He’ll be the first President in more than 25 years who hasn’t smoked weed.
    * BTW: Trump’s children don’t smoke or drink.
    * I am unaware that Donald Trump is a recreational gambler.
    * His doctor publicly announced Donald to be in excellent health.
    I think that to really know Donald Trump, you must know his family
    background. The Trump family story is a very American story.

    Trump family history – concise version.
    * Donald Trump’s grandparents immigrated to the U.S. from Alsace (Kallstadt, Germany) which throughout history has been alternately French and German. The Trumps are German, originally speaking the same German dialect as the Amish of Lancaster County, PA. & nbsp;
    * His maternal grandparents lived in Scotland.
    * Freiderich (Drumph) Trump made a small but respectable fortune in
    the late 19th Century in the mining boom towns of the American Northwest.
    * He returned to Germany to marry his childhood neighbor, Elizabeth Christ.
    * The newly married Trumps resettled in the Borough of Queens NY.
    * Freidrich was establishing a real estate business in Queens when he died suddenly at age 49 (1918).
    * In 1920, at the age of 15, Fred Trump (Freiderich’s son and
    Donald’s father), started a business partnership with his widowed mother called
    Elizabeth Trump & Son.
    * This business was built upon the real estate holdings that his
    father, Frederich, had amassed (worth about $500,000.00 in today’s dollars).
    This is the original “seed money” of the current Trump organization.
    * Elizabeth & Fred remained close business partne rs her entire life (she died in 1966).
    * In 1936 Fred Trump (age 31) married Mary Ann MacLeod (age 24) of Stoneaway Scotland.
    * During the depression, Fred Trump built and successfully operated a supermarket (a new concept at the time) which was sold to King Kullen Co. and operates this day.
    * Fred Trump made a lot of money building housing for the military during WWII.
    * Fred Trump was investigated by the Justice Department for making
    “excessive profits” from government contracts.
    * All (or nearly all) of the building of Elizabeth Trump & Son’s
    non-government building was residential property in Queens.
    * Fred Trump died in 1999 (age 94) – beloved and worth between $250
    million and $300 million. His wife died a year later.

    “The Donald’s” career:
    Donald Trump is the greatest career achiever of the “baby boomer”
    genera tion. Donald Trump has reached the zenith in his careers as book author, TV entertainer, sports entertainer, real estate developer, and currently politician.

    * Donald Trump has authored more than 18 books. At least one of them, “The Art of the Deal” was a top seller.
    * Donald says that the Holy Bible is his favorite book. “The Art of
    the Deal” is his 2nd favorite book. And “The Power of Positive Thinking” by
    Norman Vincent Peale is his third favorite book.
    * He likes golf. Donald Trump has developed more than 11 golf
    courses which bear his name.
    * Donald Trump has twice been nominated for an Emmy Award
    * Donald Trump has a star on the Hollywood Walk of Fame.
    * Donald Trump has been inducted into the Professional Wrestling Hall of Fame.
    * Donald Trump has appeared in more than a dozen movies such as “Home Alone 2″, “Zoolander”, and “Little Rascals”.
    * &nb sp; Donald Trump has been a guest actor in more than 6 TV shows such as “Fresh Prince of Bel Aire”, “Days of Our Lives”, “Sex and the City”, and others.
    * Trump has been the executive producer of 7 TV shows.
    * Trump has been the guest host of 5 TV shows such as Extra, Larry King Live, Saturday Night Live and more.
    * Donald Trump has been co-producer of the longest running reality TV show.
    * Donald Trump performed in several WWE wrestling shows.
    * Donald performed in Wrestlemania 23 which set attendance records and revenue records up til that time.
    * In his first candidacy for public office, Donald Trump received
    the most popular votes for the President of the United States out of a field of experienced and successful politicians. And in most cases, he achieved this with less money than any of his opponents.

    Keeping in mind that 90% of start up businesses fail, Trump’s record of enterprise is nothing short of amazing. Trump has enjoyed success in at least 11 very different
    enterprises: Professional football, ice skating rinks, fragrance, ice, steaks, wines, model management, airline, blenders, men’s wear, bicycle races, world class beauty contests, and many others. In some of these, such as model management, his firm has risen to the top of that particular industry.
    * There are 31 buildings that bear his name.
    * The largest private real estate development in New York is Trump Riverside. Drive down the Henry Hudson Blvd. – you can’t miss them.
    * There are at least 12 Trump Towers
    * There are at least 6 Trump Plazas.
    * There are at least 11 Trump Golf Course developments.
    * And much, much, more in real estate.
    * Trump Entertainment, Casinos and Resorts was recently sold to Carl Ichan.
    * Donald Trump’s personal managing of the Wollman Ice Skating Rink project in the early 1980′s is the quintessential case study for MBA students in Wharton, Harvard, and other business schools. His performance there was phenomenal.
    * Donald Trump’s privately held businesses have e mployed more than 200,000 people.
    * In the casino business in Atlantic City, Trump had to do business
    with known mobsters – and he stayed “clean” and alive.
    * Aside from his personal investments, Donald Trump has never been a Wall Street “player”.
    The Political Trump:
    about 1967 – 1987 – Democrat (he was a supporter of Ronald Reagan)
    1987 – 1999 – Republican
    1999 – 2001 – Reform Party (he supported Ross Perot)
    2001 – 2009 – Democrat
    2009 – 2011 – Republican
    2011 – 2012 – Independent
    2012 – Present – Republican
    Donald Trump was openly supportive of Mitt Romney’s candidacy.
    Donald Trump does not seem to hold political party organizations in high regard.
    For the most part, his political involvement has been for practical reasons. Donald Trump does not appear to be held to political ideology.

    Some of my take aways:
    * Trump has an extraordinarily energetic central nervous system much like Teddy Roosevelt but more targeted to industry and enterprise.
    * Trump’s presidency will be very energetic, transparent, and
    communicative.
    * Trump will be a very hard working President.
    * His interaction with his older brother (who everybody loved) tells me that he thinks that everybody is like him – or wants to be – or should be.
    * His relationship with his older brother was a hard lesson in
    tolerance for him.
    * Trump is the Babe Ruth of career achievements.
    * He is dumb like a fox. When you think he just said something
    stupid – he didn’t. It’s just that you were not his target audience.
    * Trump knows the people – the folk.
    * His son, Donald Jr. is right. Trump is a “Blue Collar
    Billionaire”.
    * More than anything, his TV show, The Apprentice, was his passion. He wants all Americans to have confidence (like he does) to venture.
    * Donald Trump is attracted to and marries smart, high achieving
    women.
    * The highest levels of a Trump Administration is certain to have
    many women – and they will be bright and assertive.
    * Donald Trump’s children are very important to him. And it shows.

    PS. And we know almost nothing about our current president with 2 terms in office.

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    pat

    Mark D – u might enjoy this:

    Youtube: 1:44:06 History Channel The Making of Donald Trump HD (2016)
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cgawv-3oDcQ

    Tammy Bruce on Fox News’s Varney & Co: calls out the protests as organised; calls out the MSM for claiming they aren’t; asks where are Obama/Clinton/Dems to say ***enough is enough?

    11 Nov: Youtube: 1min05secs: Tammy Bruce on the anti-#Trump protests
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6DaFOhQzIiM

    ***”enough is enough”? not for Dirty Harry. read his whole, sickening rant:

    12 Nov: UK Daily Mail: Clemence Michallon: ‘A sexual predator who lost the popular vote’: Senator Harry Reid slams President-elect Donald Trump’s victory for leaving law-abiding Americans ‘wracked with fear’
    Senate minority leader Harry Reid released searing statement on Friday
    Reid, having served since 1987, has ‘never seen anything’ like the present
    Reid, 73, who has been a Nevada senator since 1987 and has held some form of public office since 1969, said the president situation resembled nothing he had ever seen before.
    ‘White nationalists, Vladimir Putin and ISIS are celebrating Donald Trump’s victory, while innocent, law-abiding Americans are wracked with fear – especially African Americans, Hispanic Americans, Muslim Americans, LGBT Americans and Asian Americans,’ Reid, now the senate minority leader, wrote.
    ‘Watching white nationalists celebrate while innocent Americans cry tears of fear does not feel like America.’…
    “I have personally been on the ballot in Nevada for ***26 elections and I have never seen anything like the reaction to the election completed last Tuesday.”…
    COMMENTS:
    Harry Reid is one of the angriest,vilest men to ever grace the floor of the Senate. He was primarily responsible for blocking almost everything that the Republicans put in front of the Senate while he was Senate Majority leader. His vitriol against Trump is typical. He is one of the dividers in our government. A bitter, bitter man…
    Shut up and go home Harry. YOU’RE FIRED!…
    Thank God he’s retiring.
    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3928886/Harry-Reid-slams-Donald-Trump-statement.html

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      Mark D.

      thanks Pat it was an interesting video though perhaps 45 minutes too long.

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      PhilJourdan

      “Dirty Harry” is a Clint Eastwood character (Do you feel lucky, punk? Well do you?). Harry Reid is “Dingy Harry”.

      Just American colloquialisms.

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    pat

    former NYT reporter, Goodwin:

    11 Nov: NY Post: Michael Goodwin: New York Times: We blew it on Trump
    The Gray Lady feels the agony of political defeat — in her reputation and in her wallet.
    After taking a beating almost as brutal as Hillary Clinton’s, the New York Times on Friday made an extraordinary appeal to its readers to stand by her. The publisher’s letter to subscribers was part apology and part defense of its campaign coverage, but the key takeaway was a pledge to do better.
    Times publisher Arthur Sulzberger Jr. admitted the paper failed to appreciate Donald Trump’s appeal…
    While insisting his staff had ***“reported on both candidates fairly,” he also vowed that the paper would “rededicate ourselves to the fundamental mission of Times journalism. That is to report America and the world honestly, without fear or favor.”
    Ah, there’s the rub. Had the paper actually been fair to both candidates, it wouldn’t need to rededicate itself to honest reporting. And it wouldn’t have been totally blindsided by Trump’s victory.
    Instead, because it demonized Trump from start to finish, it failed to realize he was onto something. And because the paper decided that Trump’s supporters were a rabble of racist rednecks and homophobes, it didn’t have a clue about what was happening in the lives of the Americans who elected the new president…
    Now the bill is coming due. Shocked by Trump’s victory and mocked even by liberals for its bias, the paper is also apparently bleeding readers — and money.
    I’ve gotten letters from people who say they cancelled their Times subscriptions and, to judge from a cryptic line in a Thursday article, the problem is more than anecdotal…ETC
    TEXT OF NYT LETTER
    http://nypost.com/2016/11/11/new-york-times-we-blew-it-on-trump/

    comments freerepublic:
    ‘When they say “they blew it on Trump”, what they mean is they failed to steal the election for hillary. Why do people who worked so hard to defeat Trump from their lofty media and news positions still have jobs? Because if they really “blew it” that badly, they’d be fired as incompetents!…
    The NYT found ways to bash Trump even in articles about gardening and potato salad…
    The NYT like most of the MSM just doesn’t get it.

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      Rick Will

      I monitored the NYTimes election count web site from the times the polls closed. Within 2 hours of count beginning they were predicting a Trump win 306 to 232. It stayed that way for 5 hours with minor flip flops at the close states until Trump was declared with 272 EC votes. It provided an excellent forecasting capability with as little as 30% of the count in most states. They were generally spot on with regard to the way the states would shift as the counting proceeded.

      This site is far ahead of any coverage provided by talking heads. I was able to look at each state down to individual poling locations as I chose. This link is to the web page but it obviously now shows the near final position but you can dig down into individual states and counties:
      http://www.nytimes.com/elections/results/president

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    pat

    11 Nov: Daily Caller: Peter Hasson: Anti-Trump Protests Funded By Left-Wing ‘Charity’
    A left-wing charity organization with unknown sources of money is providing the funding for protests around the country — some of which have turned into violent riots…
    The Progress Unity Fund is a tax-exempt 501(c)3 organization — the same classification as the Red Cross. The group’s mission is to “provide a progressive alternative to mainstream charities,” according to its IRS filings.
    The fund provides the financial backing for Act Now To Stop War & End Racism (ANSWER) Coalition, a left-wing activist group that began organizing “emergency protests” immediately after Trump’s election…
    But ANSWER describes Progress Unity Fund as its “fiscal sponsor.”…
    The fund’s 2015 IRS filings list just one payment to ANSWER: $9,700 for “educational programs.”
    It’s unclear where Progress Unity Fund gets its money — the fund doesn’t publicly list its donors and didn’t respond to a list of questions submitted by The Daily Caller…
    http://dailycaller.com/2016/11/11/anti-trump-protests-funded-by-left-wing-charity/

    DiscoverTheNetworks: PROGRESS UNITY FUND
    Progress Unity Fund has close ties to the Workers World Party (WWP), the Marxist-Leninist vanguard that guides Ramsey Clark’s International Action Center (IAC) and its affiliated International ANSWER coalition. PUF’s co-directors—Brenda Sandburg, Keith Pavlik, and Rosa Penate—are WWP members who have written for the Party’s weekly newspaper, Workers World. Another of PUF’s principal employees, Muna Coobtee, is a steering-committee member of ANSWER’s Los Angeles chapter…
    PUF claims to have “helped found” International ANSWER in the wake of the 9/11 terrorist attacks, to “promote a peaceful alternative to racism and war.” The Fund also serves as ANSWER’s “fiscal sponsor.” Credit-card and check donations to ANSWER are made payable to PUF, whose tax-exempt status allows the donors to claim tax deductions on their contributions.
    Since its inception, PUF has made ANSWER and IAC the major beneficiaries of its philanthropy. Between September 2001 and May 2006, for example, the Fund gave a total of $147,987 to ANSWER. Of the $270,000 in grants that PUF subsequently issued in 2007, almost $230,000 went to ANSWER regional chapters. And in 2008, more than $80,000 of the $140,000 in grants awarded by PUF were likewise earmarked for ANSWER.

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    11 Nov: In Memoriam: The Fall of the House of Clinton
    How a political dynasty lost its way.
    by Todd S. Purdum
    With the exception of 2014, when Hillary Clinton was already plotting her second presidential campaign, at least one of the Clintons, Bill or Hillary, has been on a ballot or in public office on every November Election Day since 1974. Twenty-one elections, over 42 years, one of the longest dynastic runs in American politics.
    Last Tuesday, the voters decided that the man from Hope, and the woman from Park Ridge, Fayetteville, Little Rock, and Chappaqua who followed him, had stayed too long at the fair. At ages 69 and 70, it’s a safe bet that neither will ever again stand for elective office, or at the center of the national stage…
    http://www.vanityfair.com/news/2016/11/the-fall-of-the-house-of-clinton

    Chelsea Clinton being groomed to run for Congress
    New York Post‎ – 1 day ago
    Chelsea Clinton is being groomed for the New York seat held by Rep. Nita Lowey…

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    pat

    Pilita & Alister not enjoying their “vacation” in Morocco?

    12 Nov: Financial Times: China warns Trump against abandoning climate change deal
    by Pilita Clark in Marrakesh
    India also joined in the warnings, saying Mr. Trump’s appointment would force countries to reassess an accord hailed as an end to the fossil fuel era.
    “Everyone will rethink how this whole process is going to unfold,” India’s chief negotiator, Ravi Prasad, told the Financial Times…
    “They were in absolute shock” said one person who saw Moroccan officials on Wednesday morning…
    READ ON FOR DAZED AND CONFUSED
    https://www.ft.com/content/35803636-a82a-11e6-8898-79a99e2a4de6

    12 Nov: Reuters: Alister Doyle: Trump win threatens climate funds for poor, a key to Paris accord
    MARRAKESH, Morocco: Without extra money, they say they won’t be able to do so much…
    If he follows through, that will threaten a collective pledge by rich nations in Paris to raise climate finance from both public and private sources from a combined $100 billion a year promised for 2020…
    But there is widespread unease about finance at the Nov. 7-18 talks on climate change among almost 200 nations being held in Marrakesh, Morocco.
    “My only worry is the money,” said Tosi Mpanu Mpanu of Democratic Republic of Congo, who heads a group of the 48 least developed nations. “It’s worrying when you know that Trump is a climate change sceptic,” he told Reuters.
    “Investments in green growth can be braked … green finance can be braked,” under Trump, French Environment Minister Segolene Royal told Reuters, calling some of Trump’s climate policies “catastrophic”…
    Among the first casualties could be the Green Climate Fund (GCF)…
    President Barack Obama’s administration has only made $500 million available so far, and Trump may withhold the rest…
    http://in.reuters.com/article/usa-election-climatechange-trump-idINKBN1370B7

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    john

    On the solar front: Fire Chief expresses concern about installations.

    http://www.unionleader.com/article/20161108/NEWS07/161109304

    Note: As a former Chief myself (with experience in this industry), I agree with his analysis and Insurance companies are not going to like what is said. If a home with panels is on fire, the priority would be rescue of individuals inside and protect surrounding property.

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    RAH

    In case anyone here hasn’t figured out what is happening with these riots. These are not grass roots in origin. They’re planned and supported. People being bussed in some cases. What we call “Astro Turf”. The left is working to try and delegitimize or at least intimidate Trump to keep him carrying out his stated agenda even before he takes office. They are being facilitated in this by the press in the what it chooses to cover or not cover. It won’t work. We are not scared nor intimidated and the rejection of Hillary was a rejection of the corporate medias influence. IMHO they will end up hurting themselves because there will be plenty of good citizens not enamored with Trump that are seeing who the real opponents of liberty are.

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    Uncle Gus

    If I didn’t know better…

    But then, you know, I *don’t* know better! All I really know of DJT is that he tends to riff at random in interviews(and then take it back if he knows it’s not going to run), and that he favours [[snip] groping women]. I can’t recall him making a single racist remark, apart from the stuff about the Wall.

    Speaking of which, we have a paradox here which I’m amazed the Clinton team were not more aware of. Black American voters are the *last* people to be pro-immigration! As the only remaining distinct American working class, they are the ones whose jobs are threatened by illegal immigrants. Same goes for established Latinos, Asians, etc. Those communities are not known for their liberal views in general, either. So, Blacks for Trump doesn’t surprise me in the least.

    As an aside, didn’t they make a lot out of Trump’s facial resemblance to that eagle! (Although personally I think he’s more Sam the American Eagle from the Muppet show…)

    [Editorial discretion has been applied.] AZ

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