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Emma Thompson (actress) recites Greenpeace hymn specially for Australian PM

Congrats to Emma Thompson, she knows the litany perfectly.

It takes an Oscar winning actress to keep a smug face while saying something this inane.

“Tony Abbott Climate Change is REAL I’m standing on it!”

 

I hope she sends another message when she reaches the place called “climate sameness”.

Something tells me this is a high-carbon-footprint way to send a message. Perhaps an email to Tony Abbott might have saved some fish from becoming reckless in 2050?

Waxing Gibberish sends an alternative sign:

 

There are more gems of wisdom from economist scientist-actress Thompson. She must have  a Nanny McPhee trick or Sybill Trelawney divination up her sleeve: she thinks millions of letters can change the Arctic weather.

SBS

 ”Bear in mind that politicians often lose sight of issues that aren’t in front of them all the time.

“So we all need to be bold.

“If tens of millions of us wrote to our leaders demanding action on the Arctic and climate change, well – that could change everything.”

Royal Mail, a new climate forcing then?

In Thompson’s world, it’s all the governments fault. If only they would get out of the way, I mean, give us everything.

The Guardian

Thompson said: “We’re told that it is all our fault, global warming – we want the fuel, we want our cars, and that the oil industry is merely responding to the needs of a greedy public.

“But that’s simply not fair. Most of us want to live cleaner lives, but our governments don’t make these things easily available.

“The changes we need, that the Arctic needs, must come from the top as well as the bottom. We need electric cars to be cheaper and more accessible. We want safer bike lanes in every big city.

“We want plastic bags to be banned for good. We need governments to stand up to the dirty industries that have for so long funded and controlled them, and to give us all an affordable chance to live our lives in a more sustainable way.”

So David Cameron knows how to make cheap electric cars, but the selfish sod is keeping it a secret.

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    blackadderthe4th

    How every dare you dis the glorious Emma, my gast has never been so flabbered! Soon(ish) to be seen in ‘A Walk In The Woods’, she no doubt got her info off the author Bill Bryson, where the evidence for such is undeniable!


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      Rereke Whakaaro

      Even when compared to your usual level of erudition, that sentence is still totally incomprehensible.


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        Graeme No.3

        Reluctant to challenge you, but I am told there is good evidence for the existence of Bill Bryson.

        I am not sure who this Emma who spends her time talking to pieces of wood is, but that is probably how BD4 got to know her. At least I think that is what he means, as he appears somewhat ….even for 3 am.


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        sophocles

        shades of Lewis Carroll, but not as polished … his vorpal blade failed to snicker snack.


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        Jon

        http://www.heretical.com/miscella/munzen.html

        “Trotsky chose well in Münzenberg. Following the rise to power of the Bolsheviks, he pioneered most of the manipulative political techniques which are a feature of life in Britain today. Ad hoc committees for endless causes, politicized arts festivals, mock trials, celebrity letterheads, disinformation stunts and protest marches all sprang from Münzenberg’s sheer genius for propaganda.

        Stephen Koch, in his book Double Lives: Stalin, Willi Münzenberg and the Seduction of the Intellectuals, calls this “righteous politics.” Political issues are turned into a quasi-religion, which brooks no debate – witness the ‘no platform’ antics of left-wing students who can tolerate no outlook besides their own.

        During the 1920′s and most of the 1930′s Münzenberg played a leading role in the Comintern, Lenin’s front for world-wide co-ordination of the left under Russian control. Under Münzenberg’s direction, hundreds of groups, committees and publications cynically used and manipulated the devout radicals of the West.

        Most of this army of workers in what Münzenberg called ‘Innocents’ Clubs’ had no idea they were working for Stalin. They were led to believe that they were advancing the cause of a sort of socialist humanism. The descendents of the ‘Innocents’ Clubs’ are still hard at work in our universities and colleges. Every year a new cohort of impressionable students join groups like the Anti-Nazi League believing them to be benign opponents of oppression, rather than the Trotskyite fronts they really are. The old tricks certainly are the best!

        Münzenberg’s right-hand man, Otto Katz, established an Anti-Nazi League in Hollywood, placing the writer Dorothy Parker in charge as celebrity window-dressing. The novelist Thomas Mann was one of the few to detect a swindle, although it took him five years to grasp the realities. How familiar it all seems in a Britain in which extreme left-wing groups sport the names of duped and half-brained actors, sportsmen, etcetera as patrons!

        Katz worked hard in Britain to establish the Left Book Club. It networked the Stalinist influence and promoted the left as the chic fashion of the time. The Club ran camps, conferences and propaganda tours of Russia. As in all the Western countries in which ‘the Münzenberg men’ extended their networks, the ‘innocents’ believed that they were working to oppose Hitler. In reality the purpose was the undermine the West and pave the way for Soviet control.

        The Comintern were able to play upon the vanity of the elite for whom life could never reach their gilded expectations. The secret world offered a “wonderful restorative” – Koch’s phrase again – with a particular appeal to the homosexual milieu of Bloomsbury which made up its centre. A connection to power is an aphrodisiac to people of this ilk. Thus the Cambridge spies Blunt, Burgess et al.”


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          Jon

          “Despite the formal collapse of Communism in 1989, the legacy of Stalin’s strategy of destroying the West by propaganda has an increasing hold through the cult of ‘political correctness.’ The undermining of our society by the media has steadily intensified since then. Münzenberg’s spectre hovers as vital as ever in contemporary life. At a time when Communism has little remaining formal influence, Münzenberg’s techniques of propaganda and disinformation pervade our lives.

          His legacy had far outlasted the formal cause it served, and now works for new masters. The opinion-formers who so misjudged Communism still claim legitimacy in dictating political ideals. Their track record is little considered. Marx wrote in 1857, “It is possible I’ve made a fool of myself, but that can always be remedied with a little bit of dialectics.” The malady lingers on.”


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      the Griss

      Is he Drunk? Toked? anyone got any guesses.!


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      aussie pete

      Hey BA4, I suspect your gast, like mine is constantly flabbered lol, you got me off to great start on a very cold and foggy Saturday morning in Sydney. I’m a big fan of Bill Bryson but i’m constantly afraid he will let me down and go all nutbag on global warming sooner or later.


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      I thought it was a sarcastic comment and was about to give him a green thumb.


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        aussie pete

        Well i think it was mean’t to be sarcasm but i gave him a green thumb just for the laugh i got. Perhaps when he wakes up from an obviously late night he will enlighten us.


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        Roy Hogue

        Vic,

        I think that had BA4 included ;-) at the end of his comment it would have been understood exactly as you thought. I looked at it and thought as you did, that it was sarcasm and I left it alone.

        But you can never tell sometimes.


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      OriginalSteve

      Pity, I like her as an actress but no one ever said acting ability correlates with common sense


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        Olaf Koenders

        I think the makers of “Team America” got it perfect in describing “actors” as authorities on everything. In the words of Seinfeld – Who ARE these people?


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          OriginalSteve

          Maybe I’m just too logical for this world, but I fail to see how being an actor and therefore visible, equates to any form of authority on matters science.

          It uses the same logic of the louder you shout, the mroe correct you are.

          Thats just sheer mob rule by oiks/plebs/rabble/bolshies.


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      Roy Hogue

      In the end, actors are just someone doing a job like I did since graduating from high school and starting full time work. To a very high degree, any special status they acquire along the way is our fault as much as theirs. There’s nothing like an adoring public to swell someone’s head.

      The other half of the problem is all the other people who work in their industry. But if the public didn’t sign on to the celebrity worship I think it would put a big damper on the industry part of the problem as well. Haven’t you ever wondered what would happen if no one watched the Oscar and other award broadcasts, just for one year?


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        Roy Hogue

        And this isn’t a complaint about the high salaries good actors can get. Acting skill will always rise to the top just like skill at any other occupation.

        And by the way, I have a couple of actors whose autograph I might ask for if I ever had the chance to meet them. But to me it’s because they have given life on the screen to a couple of the most unique and compelling characters I’ve ever seen. And for at least one of them it’s a very difficult character to play and get right consistently, week after week. I do recognize skill and craftsmanship when I see it.

        None of these are actors with a high profile off the set. I don’t follow them, their fans or any other way. I just enjoy their work.


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          Roy Hogue

          And the writers have a big part in the success of the character as well. I’ll bet they never get asked for their autograph.


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          Safetyguy66

          Roy I have been have a recurring ponderance for about 20 years now on this topic.

          If you go back to medieval times, the entertainers, like actors and sports people were some of the lowest paid and lowest regarded members of society. Somewhere along the line we forgot that the court jesters should be reviled and consider themselves lucky to get table scraps. Instead we put them on the highest pedestal and now a nurse, a doctor, a soldier or a policeman earn a fraction of the pay of someone who lives their life impersonating others.

          Work that one out.


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            CameronH

            This was mostly because they were seen as untrustworthy. Somebody who could make stuff up and portray fact as fiction or fiction as fact and pretend to be somebody they are not was seen as dodgy, and rightly so.


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            Roy Hogue

            Drama — acting — finally came into its own as better written and presented material was developed and of course, as more of the common man could afford to pay the price of a ticket. The available audience is particularly critical. After all, the production of anything more than the “court jester’s” repertoire requires a lot of effort and more than just the cast to pull it off and is expensive.

            Gilbert and Sullivan come to mind as early successes on a fairly grand scale. Unfortunately, though they produced marvellous musical comedy they couldn’t stand each other and if I remember rightly, they died estranged from each other.

            I think personally that the advent of the motion picture is what finally enabled the mutual back patting kind of environment we see today in Hollyweird that feeds overstuffed egos.


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      Safetyguy66

      How unsurprising that you would defer your so called proof to someone who impersonates others for a living.

      What a silly person you are.


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      Safetyguy66

      Also read this http://cruise-handbook.npolar.no/en/nordvesthjornet/smeerenburg.html

      You can see the glacier in the background and the old whaling ruins in the foreground. Read the descriptions.

      The only thing Emma is doing in her picture is breaking the rules of the area that says don’t walk on the thawing ground lol. So she travelled all the way to the glacier to break local laws. Nice work Emma.


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    DayHay

    Dear Emma, shut up and act.
    Otherwise, provide your GCM predictions with error bars, code, data, and assumptions.


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      Hat Rack

      Why do actors know more than other trades about the climate? e.g. Why aren’t old, retired stonemasons consulted?


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      For Emma,

      Error bars are an indication on a graph of the range that 95% of the results of your modelling fall into, usually. The results vary because of the uncertainty in the data inputted. If these are too large and your plot looks silly, you use 68% confidence intervals. If real world data falls outside of the error bars, then you use 99% confidence intervals that pretty much encompass every possible result and then you claim that you are more certain that the mean is going to happen.

      Code is the instructions compiled into a computer program to calculate the results of your model. You need to show this so people can check that you haven’t put a line in to ignore everything and set the result to equal d[CO2]/dt.

      Data is what is what is measured in the real world and inputted into the models. In theory.

      Assumptions are the conclusions that your funding is dependent on.


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        REPLY FROM EMMA

        Vic, Thanks for this. You ask here,

        Error bars are an indication on a graph of the range that 95% of the results of your modelling fall into, usually. The results vary because of the uncertainty in the data inputted. If these are too large and your plot looks silly, you use 68% confidence intervals. If real world data falls outside of the error bars, then you use 99% confidence intervals that pretty much encompass every possible result and then you claim that you are more certain that the mean is going to happen.

        Code is the instructions compiled into a computer program to calculate the results of your model. You need to show this so people can check that you haven’t put a line in to ignore everything and set the result to equal d[CO2]/dt.

        Data is what is what is measured in the real world and inputted into the models. In theory.

        Assumptions are the conclusions that your funding is dependent on.

        What the hell are you talking about?????

        Emma.

        Tony.


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          Dear Emma,

          read about the 68,95,99 Rule.
          The extraordinary correlation with SH temperature anomalies and a poorer but still amazing correlation with NH sea temperatures.


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            REPLY FROM EMMA

            Vic, you say here:

            read about the 68,95,99 Rule.
            The extraordinary correlation with……..

            Oh look! A polar bear.

            Tony.


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            the Griss

            Gees, rough estimates there Vic !!

            68.27, 95.45, 99.73

            or should I be using 3 dp ??? ;-)

            ———-

            “The extraordinary correlation with SH temperature anomalies and a poorer but still amazing correlation with NH sea temperatures.”

            What are you saying Vic, are you saying the CO2 level drives the SH SST but not the NH SST’s as much? ;-)

            hey, wait there.. where is Mauna Loa, again ??

            I must say that I think this is a better explanation..


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              You need to show this so people can check that you haven’t put a line in to ignore everything and set the result to equal d[CO2]/dt.

              The link there shows how the inland areas of SH are the ones that were homogenized the most.


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          Ian

          TFO. As the comment to which you replied doesn’t mention wisdom, perhaps it is fair to say data aren’t information, information isn’t knowledge and knowledge isn’t wisdom. The last is conspicuously absent in climate science as the comment “the science is settled” very clearly demonstrates.


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          Peter Carabot

          You guys!!! Just a bunch of mean and nasty old men! Emma is doing what she does best: it’s called “acting”, it’s apparently an art and quite difficult. I have been told that you are expected to impersonate carachters in a book, fiction or otherwise, that you know nothing about. You, supposedly, assume their persona for a short period of time, speak their “mind” with a bit more sentiment then a parrot and you get paid some astronomical money. You can also win prices! You are not expected to be able to think or formulate thoughts and ideas, just a good short term memory and a very strong neck (the make up is very heavy) are requirements. Normally the dumbest the part the more perfect the body has to be, actors and actresses with stunning bodies are not required to be able to speak, in both cases a flashing of the pectorals is a requirement…….
          Sick of typing now, I could go on for hours. You get the gist!,


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        I became a sceptic because I hated feeling like a Pampolonian dung beetle.


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    Roy Hogue

    One more “scientist” heard from.

    Actors have always lived in a fantasy world, so why not keep that custom going? No good reason I can see that they should stick at climate change. Let ‘er rip!

    Some can’t tell whether they’re right side up or upside down.


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      Rereke Whakaaro

      The first time I saw a large crate with, “THIS SIDE DOWN” stenciled on it, I thought, “That’s stupid, because if that side was down, nobody could read it.”

      Then I realised that that was the whole point! Duh!

      Perhaps Emma has yet to learn, that the only thing politicians can actually do, is take money from the population through taxation. And they don’t actually do anything else, apart from talking to other politicians.


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      James Bradley

      Liked her better when she won Best Actor in a Famine Ravaged Country a few years back.


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    CP

    I love it when the scientific experts known as performers give their opinions as facts. Follows the long line of experts such as Neil Young, Robert Redford, Matt Damon, James Cameron and – oh yes – Daryl Hannah. Knowlesgeable in their land of make-believe.


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      Binny

      Yes I’ve always been bemused by the way people who’s primary skill is acting (aka – pretending to be someone your not, aka- lying)are given so much credibility.


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      speedy

      CP

      You’re wrong. You’re all wrong. The lovely Emma has such beautiful eyes and a pretty face – how can she speak anything but the finest truths? And I’ll bet that she has as much technical qualifications as 97.3% of the other climate scientists? /S

      On the other hand, perhaps the lovely Emma is simply arguing from Authority – minus the Authority?

      Cheers,

      Speedy


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    Kenneth Richard

    Perhaps Emma would be cheered by what the IPCC has to say about the Arctic.

    “There is little evidence in global climate models of a tipping point (or critical threshold) in the transition from a perennially ice-covered to a seasonally ice-free Arctic Ocean beyond which further sea ice loss is unstoppable and irreversible.” IPCC AR5 Chapter 12, page 7

    “Ice sheet collapse: Exceptionally unlikely (0-1%) that either Greenland or West Antarctic Ice sheets will suffer near-complete disintegration (high confidence).” IPCC AR5 Chapter 12, page 80

    And look at the Arctic sea ice recovery….

    https://stevengoddard.files.wordpress.com/2014/08/screenhunter_1732-aug-07-06-15.gif


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    Fox From Melbourne

    Poor little Emma some big bad climate scientist forget to tell her that is SUMMER TIME in the Arctic right this very minute. The very time of the year when Mother Nature melts some of the ice all on her very own. Emma it not Climate change that your standing on but the natural change of the seasons. Emma Thompson another victim of Climate Change scientists dishonesty. I’ve got brain damage and I can work out what season it is shame Emma Thompson can’t tell the difference between summer and winter. At leased some people still think she can act. At leased she still has that I guess.


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      the Griss

      Yes, its summer time up there.. and she is STANDING ON ICE !!! roflmao ..

      I wonder if she actually thought about that, or did someone else suggest that it was a meaningful thing to do.


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      Roy Hogue

      Fox,

      Given the world in which she lives I wonder if she could understand the concept involved in distinguishing normal ice melt from “abnormal”. I don’t know whether to laugh or cry when I see this degree ignorance of the way the world around her has been working all her life. But there’s plenty of it so at least she won’t be alone. Hollyweird is called that for a reason.


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      old44

      Did she paddle up there in a canoe or did she fly in a CO2 belching plane?

      With all these idiotic announcements by actors I begin to think there is something toxic in the makeup they wear.


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      Mike Jowsey

      Thompson was holding up a sign that said “Tony Abbott Climate Change Is Real I’m Standing On It” while she visited the Smeerenburg glacier, east of Greenland.

      She’s talking about retreating glaciers in Greenland. Not polar bears in the Arctic. The clue is the mountains behind her in the photo.

      Of course, she has a point – Tony Abbott is causing these glaciers to retreat because he refuses to tax Australians who live on the other side of the planet to the glaciers. The science is, after all, completely settled. Unprecedently so.


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        Fox From Melbourne

        Its Summer time in Greenland too. If the Science is settled as you say Mike please explain to me why we must spend a Billion Dollars a day on Climate research every single day? If the Science is settled then so is the need for the research to isn’t? Oh ya by the way Mike. My research show that we had Carbon Dioxide levels in the distant past 16 times greater than pre-industrial levels. So if doubling pre-industrial levels of Carbon Dioxide increase temperatures by 2-3 degrees by the end of this century. Then times it by 15 must, there of increased past temperatures by 30-45 degrees on top of current level temperatures mustn’t they Mike? What a shame when you look them up Mike they actually did nothing of the sort.
        Cambrian 16 times Co2 (4500 pmm) temperature mean 21 degrees. Plus 7 degree on current. Not 44-59 degrees. The world and all life as we know it didn’t come to a end also Mike.
        Ordovician 15 times Co2 (4200 pmm) temperature mean 16 degrees. Plus 2 degree on current. Not 44-59 degrees. The world and all life as we know it didn’t come to a end also Mike.
        Silurian 15 times Co2 (4500 pmm) temperature mean 17 degrees. Plus 3 degree on current. Not 44-59 degrees. The world and all life as we know it didn’t come to a end also Mike.
        So on and so on massive levels of Carbon Dioxide and no massive temperatures. History has spoken history says Global warming and we are all go to die if the Carbon Dioxide level increases by just a few hundreds of parts per million just is not going to happen Mike. Blame history not me or Tony Abbott or the lovely Jonova for that matter Mike.


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          Mike Jowsey

          Cool! Thanks, nice post, Fox. I apparently needed a /sarc tag. Thought it was obvious… ;-)


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          Fox From Melbourne

          “Then times it by 15 must, there of increased past temperatures by 30-45 degrees on top of current level temperatures mustn’t they Mike?” was meant to be “Then times it by 15 must, there for increased past temperatures by 30-45 degrees on top of current level temperatures mustn’t they Mike? My mistake.


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      Peter Carabot

      Realy Fox, you should know better. In winter it’s cold and miserable, you go skiing and scate on ice. How can you expect an impersonator to know this! In summer you go to the beach and there’s grass to cut!
      Can you see any grass? Duuuuh! It’s got to be winter!


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        Fox From Melbourne

        Peter sounds like you have a better travel agent than Emma Thompson. Good for you mate. But that’s what she gets for use Travel Greenpeace I guess ha.


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    rah

    She is an actress. Her job is drama and keeping herself in the public eye. Who I feel sorry for are the people that don’t understand that and take such bullshine seriously.


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      Robert

      Exactly, it is only the gullible with no life or self identity that care at all what actors/actresses/singers/musicians/etc think. It is the actors/actresses/etc who are so in love with themselves that they believe the rest of us care what they think.

      As with most things that involve actual thought they are wrong.


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    turnedoutnice

    Apart from the almost complete failure to get basic IR and radiative physics right, the IPCC Climate Models are fine.

    Give them all Nobel Peace Prizes for spending the most money on the least useful research, but for heaven’s sake, don’t consider it as Science.


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      What is the “almost” in the ‘complete failure to get basic IR and radiative physics right’?


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        Rereke Whakaaro

        Cut them some slack. The spelling in the IPCC reports was pretty good — especially in the non-technical bits.


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        turnedoutnice

        The two stream approximation works in the gas phase. They got the boundary conditions wrong though, and created a Perpetual Motion Machine of the 2nd Kind.

        238.5 W/m^2 SW heating + 333 W/m^2 imaginary ‘back radiation’ – 238.5 W/m^2 supposedly radiated downwards from the imaginary single -18 deg C ToA emitter ** = 333 W/m^2, a 40% increase in energy. Much is offset by the false claim that GHE = lapse rate; the rest by claiming ~30% increase of low level cloud albedo in hind-casting.

        **There is no -18 deg C emission zone; -18 deg C is the flux-weighted virtual mean of IR radiation spectral temperature from 0 to 20 km in the various wavebands. You can’t apply Kirchhoff’s law of radiation at ToA, as is claimed by the modellers.


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      James Bradley

      Ah yes the Nobel Laureate in Climate Change… the gift that keeps on giving.


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      Roy Hogue

      It might be good to add a Nobel Prize category for the most wasteful expenditure of money. On the other hand, the committee would then go nuts trying to decide the winner from among so many possibilities. But at least that would keep them busy and maybe they wouldn’t get so bloody much attention every year. ;-)


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    Renato Alessio

    She’s standing on the Arctic ice that was supposed to have disappeared last year. Doesn’t she ponder why it’s not all water?

    Maybe she could do a similar selfie in the Antarctic, it’s about time we had a sequel, “Ship Of Fools II”.
    Regards.


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      turnedoutnice

      Co-starring Emma Thompson and Leonardo di Caprio reprising the famous scene of the couple on the bow of The Titanic, except this time they look over a mess of broken sea ice stopping the ship from moving……

      Well, at least that’s a gain: you can’t hit an iceberg if your velocity is zero……


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      the Griss

      Let’s not make too many jokes about the Antarctic at this stage.

      There’s a group of people stuck down there with a dodgy power supply.

      Lets all hope they make it through the winter. !


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      bob parker

      She’s an actress right!!! and an obvious greeny right!!!
      I’m willing to bet she’s standing in front of a photo of some place in Norway. Maybe southern Norway at that.
      Gullible is only the half of it.


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      Roy Hogue

      She’s standing on the Arctic ice that was supposed to have disappeared last year. Doesn’t she ponder why it’s not all water?

      I’m not surprised. These warmists act like they can walk on water — maybe they’ve actually discovered how to do it. ;-)

      Now if they could just discover that their predictions aren’t coming true…


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        john robertson

        Roy. I live in Yellowknife NWT, I can walk on water from October till June.
        Either as ice or snow.
        Actors do not know how to walk on water.. they just believe they can.


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      speedy

      Should I post the Ship of Fools again? Or is the weekend already spoken for? :)

      Cheers,

      Speedy


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      Stylo

      I requested just such a sequel of @ProfChrisTurney on Twitter and he blocked me. I was only trying to be supportive. Sensitive lad.

      I especially liked the bit where the ship they were rescued from actually made it back to port weeks earlier than the ship they transferred to. You just can’t buy script writing like that.


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      Mike Jowsey

      She’s not standing on the Arctic ice – she’s standing on a Greenland glacier.


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    Pete of Perth

    According to the intawebs, she has named one of her children Gaia.


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    There’s nothing quite like being lectured to by an extremely rich well-heeled BBC-class mediocre luvvie hasbeen. Perhaps she should give it a try on the 25% of households in the UK, which even by a madly spinning government’s standards, live in fuel poverty.

    Mebbe those pensioners who spend all winter fully dressed in their beds in unheated homes because they can no longer afford to heat them. She’ll need to rush though, charities like Age Concern figure an extra 3000 or so of them froze to death to save Mother Gaia last year. They’re a vanishing breed.

    You hurry along there Emma.

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      Pointman,

      I doubt it would reach her even if she had to live through such a winter. That she’s out there standing on the ice speaks of a high degree of fervor and conviction about “her cause.”

      While this is not true of everyone with money, many with money live by the watchword, hypocrisy, lest they actually have to admit an unpleasant truth about themselves. And they can do contradictory things without hesitation. In this case, enjoy her money while supporting a cause that not only hurts those without her financial means but will drive more people to the poorhouse than are already there.


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        speedy

        Roy

        You’re probably right – a bunch similar people (Bono, Prince Charles, Most of Hollywood) would know in their heart of hearts that they’re nothing but worthless, high-living parasites; fighting for a cause gives them justification for their existence and salves their feeble conscience.

        On another note; we hear plenty of people who are “passionate” about the environment. How much better if they were “correct”?

        Cheers

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          Roy Hogue

          Speedy,

          It occurs to me that President Obama and his wife should be added to that list. They’re both doing much better at being celebrities than at doing the job they should be doing — him leading and her silent.

          Instead they’ve somehow managed to become celebrated and for what? Well, just empty words. The concept of celebrating good job performance is only just beginning to be understood.


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    Windsong

    Looks like more adventure tourism above 70N. Does anybody know when and where the photo was taken?


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      Mike Jowsey

      You could try reading the linked article…. “she visited the Smeerenburg glacier, east of Greenland.” She also tweeted something on the 8th August.


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    What a moron she is. Much like so many other actors, such as George Clooney who really made a fool of himself when he opened his mouth on climate change. What is it with these fools? They should just stick to acting and leave the real world to those who can think and understand the facts. There is one common element between actors and certain AGW alarmist leaders. They make lots of money from the gullible but add no real value to society (on the contrary they help to destroy society’s good values, morals and ethics). There are exceptions of course.


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    aussie pete

    This stupid person is standing on what the nutbags said would be long gone by now. Thank you Emma for highlighting how wrong the nutbags are about this stuff. Trouble is if you educate a nutbag like Emma what you get is an educated nutbag, a no win situation.


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    Graeme No.3

    Of course ten million letters would make some difference to the arctic climate, but only if they were sent there and burnt. What else could they be used for? Suggestions re BD4 not wanted.

    Seriously, I doubt the greens chances of getting that many letters. Leaving aside any gibes about (scientific) illiteracy, travelling through Bavaria has been interesting, not for the number of houses with solar panels, but for how few. Those who do, have many, from 36 to 144 so far, obviously planning to suck up those absurd subsidies. But with the majority demonstrating that they aren’t rabid ecoloons, it will be far less politically costly to slash those subsidies. Hard on the greedy maybe, but if it lowers electricity prices a probable vote winner.


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    Tom O

    I must admit that I think this picture has got to be the “poster child” for the correct position to take on climate change. Really. Think about what this ditz did. The only climate that is in that picture reminds me of a new ice age, it surely doesn’t remind me of a steaming jungle.


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    handjive

    “I argue that the modern liberal (democrat/labour) is the stupidest human to have ever lived.

    How much stupider can you be than not only always wrong, but as wrong as wrong can be.
    180 degrees from Right!”

    “If the liberal is as stupid as I believe them to be, how does (s)he keep rising to the tops of their profession.

    Then it dawned on me.

    Liberals reach the tops of their profession because they enter only those professions where you don’t ever actually DO ANYTHING.”

    “When you don’t do anything, what can go wrong?!”

    Every single profession that we associate with liberalism is all talk. But, no action.

    And the thing is, when you don’t do anything, you don’t need to know what your talking about.

    So the liberal flocks to acting. Why?
    Because you don’t do anything.

    The job of the actor is to pretend to be doing those things.
    The actor is all talk, no action, which is interesting, because in order for the actor to start talking, the director yells, “action.”

    But the second there is any action, they send the actor to their trailer to talk with their entourage, and they bring in the stuntman.”
    Comedian and Conservative Evan Sayet


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    Mark D.

    Emma who?

    She and her opinions are of little of importance to me.


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    James Bradley

    Actors, scientists, ecologists, greenies, lefties, loonies, alternative technologists… anyone who spends the majority of their time canvassing for tax payer funded donations, subsidies and grants before save the world just aren’t serious are they.


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    Eco “Absolutlly Fabulous” darlings!


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      “Too right darlings…”
      “Now, Emma darling that was just beautiful, fabulous – really. ”
      “But if we could have just one more take, and this time could you emote more feelings of shattered ennui mixed with contiued personal decimation – but from the penguin’s point of view?”

      “Ready – go for it!”

      “…and hold that pose…”


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    TdeF

    I saw the headline on new.com.au and thought, who is Emma Thomson and why does her opinion rate a headline? Unfortunately, now I know. Why do actors and actresses matter? Are they real people? After all, they spend their lives being someone else. We can only assume they mean well and think they are supporting the 97% of scientists who believe we are all going to die, killed by the carbon dioxide from jet travel and breathing.

    It is interesting how in the Anglosphere, the media are desperate to give women the same professional title as men, so actors not actresses. So we have lost a useful and obvious but apparently quite discriminatory distinction. In French, where almost all professions have only one name, so pompier for fireman (pumper) and medicin for doctor, they are busy inventing female forms for the professions as having only male forms is seen as male centric oppression.

    So what we have is a drive, not from the public, but from members of the media for social change. We are told that we should do something urgently about Global Warming and we are told that Ms Thomson is an actor not an actress. It is a case of people in the media telling a population what to think and pretending it is what everyone thinks. It isn’t.


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      tom0mason

      Acting? That’s dressing-up (physically and mentally), putting on make-up, and making a performance from other peoples’ ideas.
      Ummm..

      IMO they are wrong naming all in the acting lark ‘ators’, surely to be politically and objectively correct they are all ‘actresses’.


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      Allen Ford

      we are told that Ms Thomson is an actor not an actress

      … except when she might be in the running for an OSCAR, when it is perfectly permissible to be an actress.


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      Roy Hogue

      Fortunately actors and actresses are real people. Otherwise we’d be watching nothing but a sorry imitation of Walt Disney’s work on the TV and movie screen every evening. Disney was fine and animation is now something very impressive. But all the time? Not for me anyway.

      What happens as I see it is that celebrity affects some people one way and some another. Some can retain their humility and good judgment and some can’t.

      Emma Thompson is a name I already knew from some time ago as a very good actress. What I didn’t know is her politics — until now. She’s one of those in show business who let her celebrity go to her head.


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    John M

    If she wants to change the climate and thinks CO2 reduction is the answer, then why hold up a ‘Tony Abbott’ placard ?. Surely it would be better to target the really big emitters such as China, who contribute 26% to global CO2 compared with our tiny 1%.

    Or perhaps this just another lame leftist political stunt ?


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    agwnonsense

    “There are more gems of wisdom from economist scientist-actress Thompson. She must have a Nanny McPhee trick or Sybill Trelawney divination up her sleeve: she thinks millions of letters can change the Arctic weather.”

    Surely you meant Sybill Fawlty <:o)


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    MadJak

    Sorry – Emma who?


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    Ross

    Back off you guys. It is changing in the Arctic. Its getting colder than it was and subsequently there is more ice up there.

    http://stevengoddard.wordpress.com/2014/08/08/denier-arctic-to-be-prosecuted-for-hate-crimes/


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    Joe V.

    You gotta luv ‘em, the luvvies, but noone serious takes them seriously.

    This may be more serious, for those who take economic predictions by academic institutions seriously anyway.
    OT

    A study by University of Southampton warns,

    Air traffic growth set to outpace carbon reduction efforts

    and predicts:
    Ticket prices must rise by at least 1.4 per cent a year for emission levels to fall. Study calls for international agreement enforced by a global regulator because they know Airlines and most National Governments are unlikely to go for it.


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      Right.

      So increasing fares will cause a decrease in emissions. How does that work?

      Will it discourage people from flying? Possibly. Will that reduce the number of flights? No, because each flight carries a full load of freight, as well as passengers, and the real profit is in the freight. If the plane flies with empty seats, will that reduce CO2 emissions? Possibly, but the decrease will be marginal at best. International trade is dependent upon regular transport schedules, will cancelling flights impact the international economy? You bet, it will.

      So, the conclusion we can draw from this is that the academics at the University of Southamption, don’t know diddly-swat about how international trade actually works. Will somebody please tell them that camels plodding along the silk road, were phased out a while ago.


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    I wonder if that placard counts as carbon credits to offset the jet flight and boat.


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    agwnonsense

    Alternative Sign “Tony Abbott please send batteries B.o.B. is dead.”


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    Richo

    Another green hypocrite with a carbon footprint as big as their over inflated self opinionated ego.


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    Susan Fraser

    And that’s the job of an actor: to read a script somebody else wrote.


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    Spotted Reptile

    Be heartened, fellow skeptics. If the warmmongers are reduced to drumming up actors to flog their dying horse, then they have a problem. This little stunt is aimed right at the masses through the MSM. Evidently the ‘message’ isn’t getting across. We should be glad.


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    Thankyou Jo for including that bracketed item “[ actress ] ” in Emma Thompson’s description because frankly I would not have had a clue as to why or who such a nonentity was to get a mention on JoNova’s blog.

    At least the title of “[ actress ]” goes a long way towards answering the questions on the utter lack of any visible intellectual content at any level and the juvenility of the whole episode.

    And as an “[ actress]” plus Greenpeace are involved then take the supposed vestiges of “intellectual content” displayed down at least another couple of octaves to the point of immeasurability


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    bazza

    Just look at the head tilt,what a fool.


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    Reinder van Til

    Of course, don’t you know that ice and snow now starts to form at 10°C? The climate is changing you know. That is why. :-)


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    Tim

    “…the oil industry is merely responding to the needs of a greedy public.”

    How greedy we must all be to want to stay warm and not die from exposure. Greed is good, Emma.


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    nfw

    How terribly sad for her.


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    pat

    dear emma -

    other countries don’t appreciate being bossed around by the likes of you or the EU:

    8 Aug: Reuters: Ben Garside: EU governments chase up unpaid airline emission fines
    Airlines balk at fines despite scaled-down EU emission rules
    Chinese, Indian carriers told to boycott
    Both have all along opposed the scheme, arguing their inclusion in the EU’s Emissions Trading System breached sovereignty rules.
    “We oppose unilateral measures in this regard,” a spokeswoman from China’s representation to the EU told Reuters by email, adding Beijing wanted a global approach to regulating emissions led by the United Nations.
    Germany, one of the main governments chasing up unpaid fines, in April issued 2.7 million euros ($3.62 million) in penalties to 61 carriers.
    Russia’s Aeroflot has also balked at paying a 215,600 euro fine to Germany…
    Required by EU law to enforce the penalties, like Germany, Britain, France and the Netherlands as the bloc’s main air transport hubs also lead the search for payments…
    http://uk.reuters.com/article/2014/08/08/eu-carbon-airlines-idUKL6N0QE4JS20140808

    Reuters Point Carbon: Carbon Market Europe 8 August
    This week’s edition explains why the longstanding diplomatic row over the EU’s aviation emissions regulation may not be over despite massive European concessions. Plus, bidding in Europe’s carbon auctions has fallen to its lowest for two years as investor returns fall flat.
    http://www.pointcarbon.com/news/cme/1.6274418


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    john robertson

    Funnily enough, she seems to have assumed the right position.
    As retributive justice implies to my POV that idiotic alarmists shall be granted what they wished upon the rest of us.
    Set adrift on an ice-pan in the Arctic summer seems fair.
    I cannot imagine a more carbon free lifestyle.
    But whats with all the hi-tech synthetic fabrics this shill is wearing?
    All manufactured from oil based fabrics no doubt.
    If she was not so stupid and greedy she would have walked to the Arctic using zero carbon based products along the way.


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    Raven

    Looking at Emma Thompson’s Biography

    Outside of acting, Thompson is a supporter of numerous environmental and social causes. She has served as an international ambassador for ActionAid and she joined Greenpeace in its action to stop the expansion of London’s Heathrow Airport.

    Given Emma doesn’t like aircraft, I expect she rode her bicycle to the Arctic.


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      Oooops – Correction.
      She didn’t ride her bicycle at all. *smacks self on wrist*
      From Jo’s SBS Link

      Greenpeace said Thompson was on the organisation’s ship Esperanza with Canadian actress Michelle Thrush, best known for her role as Gail Stone in Blackstone, and her 14-year-old daughter.

      So, just the oil burning Greenpeace version of Arctic tourism, really.
      If only they’d only thought to invite Chris Turney, this could have been, well, you know . . . ‘science’.


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    pat

    a CAGW draft report leaked to Reuters – how amazing is that?

    7 Aug: Reuters: Deep emissions cuts needed by 2050 to limit warming: U.N. draft
    (Reporting by Alister Doyle; Editing by Sonya Hepinstall)
    Deep cuts in greenhouse gas emissions of 40 to 70 percent by mid-century will be needed to avert the worst of global warming that is already harming all continents, a draft U.N. report showed.
    The 26-page draft, obtained by Reuters on Thursday, sums up three U.N. scientific reports published over the past year as a guide for almost 200 governments which are due to agree a deal to combat climate change at a summit in Paris in late 2015.
    It says existing national pledges to restrict greenhouse gas emissions are insufficient to limit warming to 2 degrees Celsius (3.6 Fahrenheit) above pre-industrial times, a U.N. ceiling set in 2010 to limit heatwaves, floods, storms and rising seas…
    “Deep cuts in greenhouse gas emissions to limit warming to 2 degrees C … remain possible, yet will entail substantial technological, economic, institutional, and behavioral challenges,” according to the draft due for publication in Copenhagen on Nov. 2 after rounds of editing…
    Such a shift would also require a tripling or a quadrupling of the share of low-carbon energies including solar, wind or nuclear power, it said.
    That would be a radical change. Emissions, buoyed by coal-fuelled industrial growth in emerging economies led by China and India, rose to 49 billion tonnes in 2010 from 40 billion in 2000…
    “Human influence on the climate system is clear, and is estimated to have been the dominant cause of the warming observed since 1950,” the draft says…
    IPCC spokesman Jonathan Lynn said the draft obtained by Reuters had already “undergone thorough revision since the authors met at the end of June/beginning of July.”…
    Unchecked climate change was projected to damage economic growth and can even indirectly increase risks of armed conflict by aggravating underlying causes such as poverty, it says…

    ***The IPCC focuses on consumption, which is gross domestic product minus investments, in case big investments are needed to shift from fossil fuels to renewable energies. That could stoke GDP and give a misleading impression of economic benefits.

    The IPCC says it is impossible to compare costs and benefits of action for any given temperature level. Many factors are hard to quantify – a shift from fossil fuels, for instance, could curb health bills by reducing air pollution.
    http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/08/07/us-climatechange-solutions-idUSKBN0G71SF20140807a

    what a load of BS.


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    Roy Watt

    What a lovely leftist head tilt….apologies to Tim Blair


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    MudCrab

    Emma Thompson – Pointlessly inflated power bills are real. WE are paying them.


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    pat

    plenty of space at ABC for science journo, Bianca (CAGW is even scarier than ever) Nogrady; no space for Joanne Nova:

    6 Aug: ABC: Bianca Nogrady: Hot and bothered: our health under climate change
    But what will happen to our relatively healthy way-of-life under climate change? What good, for example, would a painkiller be in the face of a prolonged heatwave? Or a cholesterol-lowering drug, when the crops we rely on for nourishment are deficient in nutrients? Or an anti-viral drug against dengue fever or Chikungunya virus, if populations of carrier-mosquitoes were to become widespread down the east coast of Australia?…
    Emeritus Professor Tony McMichael from the Australian National University’s (ANU’s) Research School of Population Health: “Where we’ve struggled is to have the community and decision-makers understand that the wellbeing, health, and physical survival of human populations is, sooner or later, the bottom line in all the adverse effects of climate change,” says Professor McMichael…
    Dr Elizabeth Hanna, an ANU research fellow and president of the Climate and Health Alliance, says Australia’s urban design process is poorly adapted to extremes of temperature.
    “You see the same housing design from Hobart to Emerald to even Darwin, and that’s madness.”…
    Rae Walker, Emeritus Professor at Latrobe University, has been researching the impact of climate change on these communities and the institutional changes needed to the primary health care system in Australia to reduce this impact.
    “The existing emergency planning response and recovery is premised on the assumption that everybody is like us,” says Professor Walker. “So the needs of people with disabilities are poorly addressed, and the mortality rate among people with disability is probably very high.”…
    “The overarching pattern we see is [that] if we have more of the right kind of rainfall for mosquitoes, we see more endemic arboviruses, such as Ross River virus, Murray Valley encephalitis, and Kunjin virus,” says Dr Nigel Beebe, senior lecturer in the School of Biological Sciences at the University of Queensland…
    While Australia has so far escaped the worst of these, that’s likely to change…
    “That may change because the longer the periods of no rain, the more chance of our native fauna generating and breeding young animals that are completely naive to these viruses,” says Dr Beebe, who is involved with CSIRO’s Biosecurity Flagship…
    Plant physiologist Professor Michael Tausz and a team of University of Melbourne and Victorian Department of Environment and Primary Industry researchers have been investigating the ‘carbon dioxide fertilisation effect’, and found that it’s not quite the silver lining it was first thought to be.
    “Just imagine you change your diet by eating 40 per cent more sugar, but everything else is the same,” says Professor Tausz, program leader at the University of Melbourne. The consequence of increased yield — predicted to be around a 25 per cent boost from a 40 per cent increase in carbon dioxide concentrations — is a decrease in vital nutrients such as iron, zinc, and most importantly, protein…
    Professor Helen Berry, from the University of Canberra, says the idea that climate change will affect mental health is relatively new, but is intuitively obvious.
    “When you talk about it a bit, people can pretty easily start to see that if climate change means more unstable weather conditions — and that means more extremes of one sort or another, and more weather disasters among other things — they could see that as well as [being affected] physically through injury or starvation or disease, they could also be traumatised.”
    This would be compounded in people with existing mental health issues, not only because they are more vulnerable to stress and anxiety, but because even their medications may be compromised. For example, lithium, a treatment for bipolar disorder, is unstable at higher temperatures…
    Professor Tony McMichael says the scientific evidence to date shows that climate change will make a mockery of our illusion of control over our health and wellbeing.
    “We’re imbued with this idea that health is about personal choice and access to hospitals and doctors, whether you’re lucky with the genes you inherit,” he says. “All those are important at the individual level, but climate change doesn’t pick out individuals, it impinges on whole communities.”
    “It disrupts the ecology of human life and livelihoods. Somehow we’ve got to understand that the risks to human health are not some sort of regrettable side show, some collateral damage: they’re a signal that things are going wrong at a pretty fundamental level.”
    ***This article courtesy of Ecos Magazine
    http://www.abc.net.au/environment/articles/2014/08/06/4061463.htm

    ***NOT MENTIONED: ECOS is published by CSIRO Publishing.

    does the MSM love Bianca?

    LinkedIn: Bianca Nogrady
    Freelance science journalist and author
    Past:
    Australian Doctor, Reed Business Information,
    CSIRO National Awareness Program,
    CSIRO Education
    Education: The Australian National University
    Bianca Nogrady is a freelance science journalist and broadcaster whose work has appeared in publications such as Scientific American, New Scientist, The Australian, ABC Science Online, ABC Health and Wellbeing, Ecos, Medicine Today, Australian Doctor, G magazine and the Swinburne University and Monash magazines.
    She has spoken, chaired and been a member of panels at events such as the Sydney Festival of Dangerous Ideas, the Brisbane Writers Festival, the ABARES Outlook conference and the Council on the Ageing’s ‘Let’s Talk About Dying’ forum. Bianca is also a regular guest on radio talking about science, medicine and her books.
    Bianca is the author of The End: The Human Experience of Death (Random House Australia, May 2013) – a book that attempts to answer the question ‘what is death like?’
    She is also co-author of The Sixth Wave (Random House Australia, 2010) – a book on how to succeed in a resource-limited world.
    http://au.linkedin.com/in/biancanogrady


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    John Of Cloverdale WA

    Has she looked at the Ice Charts lately?


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    Here’s a couple I prepared earlier. One is an actual tweet from the ‘mission’. Doing it tough up there, for the climate.

    http://imgur.com/yQFqG9W

    http://imgur.com/akczpa0


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    John Of Cloverdale WA

    Sorry posted before checking: “Maybe she should try the warming Antarctic next” :-)


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    Tim

    Antarctic Sea Ice rising. Record low temps.
    http://www.climatedepot.com/?s=Antarctic

    Arctic Sea Ice highest for a decade:
    http://www.climatedepot.com/2014/08/04/arctic-sea-ice-extent-remains-highest-in-a-decade/

    Their conning you, Emma.


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    Pete

    Emma Thompson makes a fool of herself at the Arctic!!!!!!!


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    pat

    looks like people in developing countries should also set aside any dreams of plane travel!

    8 Aug: UK Daily Mail: Nicky Harley: Is this the end of cheap air travel? Airlines may need to increase fares to reduce passenger numbers and hit ‘carbon neutral’ targets
    Airlines pledge to cut emissions – but passenger numbers keep rising
    Prices need to rise to reduce those numbers, experts warn
    Study predicts fares to rise by a third to reduce carbon footprint
    Airfares will need to increase by a third over the next 30 years if airlines are to hit their ‘carbon neutral’ targets, experts predict…
    The research by the University of Southampton reveals that the reduction in the cost of air travel needs to be reversed to discourage passengers from travelling…
    It says the annual rise in passenger numbers of 4.8 per cent will need to be halved to 2.4 per cent if the emission cap is to be met by 2020…
    Matt Grote, one of the report’s authors, said airlines had given themselves the option of ‘offsetting’ by paying other industries to reduce their emissions…
    By 2020, global international aviation emissions are projected to be around 70 per cent higher than in 2005 even if fuel efficiency improves by 2 per cent per year.
    ICAO forecasts that by 2050 emissions could grow by up to 700 per cent…
    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/travel/travel_news/article-2719738/Is-end-cheap-air-travel-Airlines-need-increase-fares-reduce-passenger-numbers-hit-carbon-neutral-targets.html

    linked from the above article. i had a thought. why not get Bill to buy up all the carbon offsets in the world and bingo, we’ll have saved the planet from CAGW:

    8 Aug: UK Daily Mail: Thanks dad! Bill Gates treats his family to a Mediterranean vacation on board a 450-ft superyacht complete with a submarine, 12 state rooms and a helicopter to fly them to and from tennis
    Is renting superyacht for $5million-a-week that cost $330million to build
    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2719109/Thanks-dad-Bill-Gates-treats-family-Mediterranean-vacation-board-450-ft-superyacht-complete-submarine-12-state-rooms-helicopter-fly-tennis.html


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    Krudd Gillard of the Commondebt of Australia

    I don’t want to watch any movie she is in.


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    Geoff Williams

    Gone right off Emma Thompson and all those other actors who confuse their acting careers with reality and climate change!!!
    Geoff W.
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    Neville

    This MacDonald et al study shows that forests once grew up to the Arctic coastline in the earlier Holocene. Temps then are estimated to have been up to 7c higher than today. The trees retreated after temps dropped about 4,000 to 3,000 years ago. Just more proof of a much warmer earlier holocene and a much warmer Arctic than today.

    http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0033589499921233

    Here is the study’s abstract————-

    Abstract

    Radiocarbon-dated macrofossils are used to document Holocene treeline history across northern Russia (including Siberia). Boreal forest development in this region commenced by 10,000 yr B.P. Over most of Russia, forest advanced to or near the current arctic coastline between 9000 and 7000 yr B.P. and retreated to its present position by between 4000 and 3000 yr B.P. Forest establishment and retreat was roughly synchronous across most of northern Russia. Treeline advance on the Kola Peninsula, however, appears to have occurred later than in other regions. During the period of maximum forest extension, the mean July temperatures along the northern coastline of Russia may have been 2.5° to 7.0°C warmer than modern. The development of forest and expansion of treeline likely reflects a number of complimentary environmental conditions, including heightened summer insolation, the demise of Eurasian ice sheets, reduced sea-ice cover, greater continentality with eustatically lower sea level, and extreme Arctic penetration of warm North Atlantic waters. The late Holocene retreat of Eurasian treeline coincides with declining summer insolation, cooling arctic waters, and neoglaciation.


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      the Griss

      Just imagine how much agricultural land would have been opened up by a couple more degrees of warming..

      and these MORONIC TURKEYS called climate scientists want to try and stop it. !!!!

      Its all TOTAL IDIOCY !

      ——–

      WARMER IS ONLY BENFICIAL !

      RAISED ATMOSPHERIC CO2 LEVELS is ONLY BENEFICIAL !

      ——–

      WAKE UP, WORLD !!!!

      ITS TIME TO END THIS MADNESS !


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    Neville

    Dr Chris Schluchter’s findings on Glacier retreat thousands of years ago just confirms that our so called slight modern warming is very normal and has happened many times in the past few thousand years.
    In fact glacier retreat and advance has happened many times during the Holocene and tree lines were found at much higher elevations thousands of years ago during much warmer periods than today.

    http://wattsupwiththat.com/2014/08/08/receding-swiss-glaciers-incoveniently-reveal-4000-year-old-forests-and-make-it-clear-that-glacier-retreat-is-nothing-new/#more-114223


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    Somehow, poor Emma may have misinterpreted “we must act now:-)

    Many of the popular performers for screen and stage are empty vessels, filled by the roles they are given to play by writers and directors. Unfortunately, nobody bothers to properly drain and scrub the vessels after the camera stops “rolling” and the curtain falls.

    It’s like a kitchen sink’s drain that seldom gets a good flush; eventually, you have to open the trap and let all the gunge out underneath the sink. Or worse dig around the back of the house and give the grease trap a “going over”. Otherwise the effluent ceases to be fluent; and just sits around unpleasantly in the vessel.


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    Farmer Gez

    Always found Emma particularly irritating, off screen and on. For centuries acting was regarded as a low profession and actors often begged for pay and food from the public. In the history of mankind has there ever been a time when the fundamentally useless and pointless have had more of a say? Just ignore Emma and her overacting. I do love her frowny face though, what skill!


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      Andrew

      It IS disproportionate – isn’t it?

      I keep asking warmies, “So why do you, 1st year law students, Hollywood actors, and tobacco farmers know more than Lindzen? 74 founding atmospheric scientist who did his thesis on climatology in 1965 and doesn’t believe the stuff you’ve just claimed? I’d back his knowledge over that of bank teller Sarah Sea-Patrol.”

      Turns out argument from authority only applied to SELECTED authorities.


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    Farmer Gez

    I almost forgot. Note the head tilt of concern.


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    Adrian O

    It goes to show that only when each of the 7 billion people on Earth will follow the example and lifestyle of our leading actors will our Earth be saved!


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    Popeye26

    Yet another “ship of FOOLS”

    This time in the northern hemisphere.

    I hope they sailed there & didn’t use DIESEL FUEL???

    Cheers,


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    “If tens of millions of us wrote to our leaders demanding action on the Arctic and climate change, well – that could change everything.”

    Only King Cnut would have an adequate, honest response.


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    old44

    I just did an experiment and need technical type to do some calculations:

    If a 3cc ice cube immersed in cola takes 75 minutes to melt at a room temperature of 14 degrees C. how long does it take to melt the 26,600,000 cubic kilometre Antarctic ice cap with an average air temperature of minus 30C?


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      Andrew

      LOL. Well, since the warmies tell me that were losing (OMG) 70 gigatons a year, which is of course worse than we thought, and a gigaton is approximately 1 km³, I’m going to suggest 380,000 years.


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      bob parker

      I did a back of the envelope calculation a few years ago and come up with a number of 15000 years before it reached zero degrees and then perhaps it would start to melt.


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      The Backslider

      how long does it take to melt the 26,600,000 cubic kilometre Antarctic ice cap with an average air temperature of minus 30C

      Air temperature has nothing to do with it! Don’t you know that all that “back radiation” from CO2 is just the same as holding a bar heater over the ice?


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        old44

        1: Is that a 3 bar heater or a 5 bar heater?

        2: At what height is the heater held?

        3: What is the area the heater covers?

        4: Why didn’t I burn my hand when I picked up the tumbler?

        5: If the CO2 is the same in my lounge room as it is in the Antarctic how does this alter the experiment?

        Are you one of those idiots that thinks if the Arctic ice melts it will raise the level of the oceans?


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    Ah, yes, Emma is standing in front of Smeerenburg Glacier in Svalbard. Smeerenburg (“Greaseborough”) used to be a dutch biofuel factory where they converted whales to oil. Until fossil fuel made whale hunting uneconomic.

    Fossil fuel therefore saved the whales, does Greenpeace perhaps intent reintroducing whale hunting for biofuel manufacturing?


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    Peter C

    Greenpeace and Actors!

    Well I have just got off a long plane flight. I watched a movie called NOAH. This was a most extraordinary mish mash of the Bible story with a more than a liberal dose of Greenpeace philospohy. It featured Russell Crowe as Noah and Anthony Hopkins as Methusalah. They both must be desperate for money.

    They all live in a post apocalyptic world, where there is not a drop of water or any visible plant life at all. Somehow after Cain murdered his brother, his issue spread like wild fire, living in cities and destroying the world. They are supported by fallen angels called the Watchers who have been banished from heaven and turned into rock monsters with cores of molten lava. Noah’s small tribe are descended from Cain’s other brother Seth.

    After a lot of examples of man’s inhumanity by the tribe of Cain, Noah gets the message from The Creator (God is not specifically mentioned) and gets to work on the ark, assisted by the Watchers. A special little paradise springs in the barren bllackened landscape up after Noah plants a seed from the garden of Eden, given to him by Methusalah. Otherwise I don’t know how he would have found any timber to construct it with.

    Finally animals turn up from no where and get on board the Ark in an orderly fashion, and all lie down quietly on the floor, existing in perfect harmony, even though they have nothing to eat of drink for 40 days. Once the animals are all aboard the rains start in earnest.

    The Tribe of Cain however is not finished with yet. The chief of the tribe gives them a rousing speech, telling them that they are not doomed, even if the Creator wills it, because they are men and if men get together and act co-operatively there is nothing they cannot achieve. All they have to do is kill all the fearsome Watchers, then Noah and his family and get on board the Ark to save themselves. At this stage I am beginning to warm to the Tribe of Cain, rather than Noah who by now has become seriously loopy, but he gets worse. And the Cainanites almost pull if off. In the end only the chief makes it on board, where he keeps his strength up by eating some of the beasts, thereby causing extinctions and upsetting the balance of Nature.

    Once safely afloat Noah sits down to tell his family the creation story. After 5 days of hard work the Creator has got it just right and Nature and all the animals were living in perfect harmony, but on the 6th day he made a serious mistake and created Man the Destroyer. But Noah has got it all worked out, because his wife is too old to have more children and he only has 3 sons. So once they have delivered the animals, they will live on for a bit, then Noah and his wife will die, followed by the sons in progression. The youngest son will have to bury the second last one and then he will be the last man on Earth, and when he is gone, the Creator ‘s world will be back as intended.

    But as Malcolm the mathematician in Jurassic Park explained “Nature will find a way”. In this case Noah’s oldest son has a girlfriend. They all think that she is barren because of injuries she received from the dreadful Cainanites, but of course this turns out not to be the case and she delivers twins. Noah of course is not too happy that his plan has been derailed like this and decides that he must kill the two babes with a sharp knife and fix up the mum so that it cannot happen again. By now I can see the Greens philosophy described in all it’s dreadful detail.

    I cannot recommend that anyone else watches this movie. I hope this short summary will save you all the bother. In the end, as we all know Noah gets the correct message, humanity is saved and the Tribe of Seth morphs into the Tribe of Cain and gets back to spoiling creation.


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    motvikten

    If Emma joins FEMEN more people (men) will get the message.
    http://femen.org/

    They are active in Sweden, where the female spokesperson for the green party said. “It is white heterosexual middle aged men that creates all problems”.
    The green party however excluded a femen activist!?


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    Andrew

    If it’s so melty and climate changey, why all the thermals? I was in Launceston last week – it was -2 and the locals were outside smoking without even a shirt on!


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    Her failing clairvoyance as Potter character Sybil Trelawney also does not give much hope:

    “Sybill Trelawney has predicted the death of a student every year since she came to this school. None of them have died yet.”
    —Minerva McGonagall on Trelawney.


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    Martin S

    I’m reminded of what craig ferguson of the late late show said of the diffrence between doctors and the actors who play them;

    Doctors go to college, actors go to rehab.


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    Roy Hogue

    I tried writing a letter to the climate yesterday to test the “Emma Thompson Thesis”. I worked on it for several hours to make sure it would be as persuasive as possible without getting the climate mad at me. I took it to the post office and stuck it in the mail slot.

    The darned thing spit my letter back at me.

    I think that mail slot was trying to tell me something.


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    DeltaCharlie

    Hello Jo and All. New here so will be especially civil.. Very entertaining responses but also thought-provoking. First thing I did was Google “Spitzbergen Summer”. Looked nice to me. Has Emma’s placard been Photoshopped?


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    the Griss

    “Has Emma’s placard been Photoshopped?”

    The very top one is hand written.

    There are now several Photoshopped versions available. :-)


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      DeltaCharlie

      Thank you Griss – or do you prefer TG? Summer photos of where Emma was allegedly posed, also showed less ice, but then again, it is summer. To me, it lacks credibility. What a surprise. BTW – love the second photo option ie: gullible fools. Correct me if wrong, but I seem to remember submarines popping their periscopes up at the North Pole some 40 to 50 years ago. A check of more recent tent satellite photos shows nothing outside normal seasonal variations.. Or am I being too sceptical? There have been numerous attempts in recent years to paddle to the North Pole in kayaks to prove their point, but all have failed well short of the mark and required rescue – at others expense of course.


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        DeltaCharlie

        Sorry – I meant to write “ice extent satellite photos shows nothing outside normal seasonal variations”. Apologies where applicable.


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    john robertson

    That spiel of this character impersonating a thinking human, that Government can “release” the captive technologies.Then all will be wonderful.
    This is the same loser philosophy we have all heard since high school.
    If only the “government” would release their iron grip upon the pixie dust. alien secrets and unicorn herds, we could each have two unicorns.
    This explains this child like faith in government, that government is made up of fool;s and bandits AKA Bureaucrats.. always seems to escape them.
    Any thing is better than personal responsibility for this type.
    She is just like the thief who complains about the victim thwarting their theft and putting them in jail.


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    Robert of Ottawa

    The silly champagne socialist is standing on ice, isn’t she? How does that prove global warming?


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    Sean McHugh

    Actors are people who manage to read and recite lines. Emma didn’t even need to do that.


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    richsrd

    Just musing again,

    It”s interesting to note that over the last 5000 years all the civilized populations lived in hotter temps than we do today and were able to thrive, their populations were smaller but there again there crop yields were smaller. They forged on and built reservoirs and aqueducts to keep their populations clean and watered and stores for grain when there were lean years. We have a projected couple of degrees increase on the next hundred years and the alarmists think the world will come to an end.

    Interesting to note that as the temps declined so did these great civilizations.


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    richsrd

    Of course some will point out the MAyans!


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    steverichards1984

    I think we may be too hard on Emma!

    She, like so many in the ‘media’ are targeted by the Global Warming salespeople into believing this nonsense.

    Just look at all of the ‘clever’ people who believe it, Phds and the like.

    Its the salesmen and women who should be targeted with our anger.


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    richsrd

    more musing on this quiet Sunday, sorry Jo using up bandwidth.

    Be aware the effects of a strong El Nino year, the alarmists will use it to really bash co2.

    Obviously weak and moderate will have an effect-

    weak 2004-05
    weak 2006-07
    moderate 2002-03
    moderate 2009-10

    the last strong one was 1997-98 when global warming started its pause, also the time coral took a bashing the same as back in 1982-83.

    “A CASE STUDY

    The 1982-83 El Niño, by many measures the strongest thus far this century, was not predicted and not even recognized by scientists during its early stages. In retrospect, its beginnings can be traced back to May 1982, when the easterly (east to west) surface winds, that usually extend nearly all the way across the equatorial Pacific from the Galapagos Islands to Indonesia, began to weaken. West of the dateline, winds shifted to westerly and a period of stormy weather set in.

    Within the next few weeks, the ocean began to react to the changes in wind speed and direction. Sea level at Christmas Island in the mid-Pacific (see map) rose several inches. By October, sea-level rises of up to a foot had spread 6000 miles eastward to Ecuador. As sea level rose in the east, it simultaneously dropped in the western Pacific, exposing and destroying the upper layers of the fragile coral reefs surrounding many islands. Sea-surface temperatures at the Galapagos Islands and along the coast of Ecuador rose from typical levels in the low 70s (degrees Fahrenheit) well up into the 80s.

    In the face of these Pacific Ocean-wide changes, marine life soon responded. Following the sea-level rises at Christmas Island, sea birds abandoned their young and scattered over a wide expanse of the ocean in a desperate search for food. By the time conditions along the coast of Peru returned to normal in mid-1983, 25% of the year’s fur seal and sea lion adults and all of the pups had died. Many species of fish suffered similar losses. Along the expanse of Pacific coastline stretching from Chile to British Columbia, water temperatures were above normal, and fish that normally live in the tropical and subtropical waters either migrated or were displaced poleward. Yet some marine creatures also benefited from the turmoil, as evidenced by the unexpected harvest of warm-water scallops that washed ashore on the coast of Ecuador”


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    I really feel sorry for these Hollywood types, talking heads in front of the TV camera, and other emotionally charged, intellectually bankrupt entertainers who, without a teleprompter or cue cards, cannot carry a complete a sentence without a few spasmatic “you know”s. To aid these poor folks I submit the following for their consideration.

    Global Warming is Dead

    The argument about global warming has morphed into climate change. This subtle shift was necessary because the warming has stopped over the last 17+ years, even while CO2 concentrations have continued to increase. It has become obvious CO2 is not driving the warming or the climate.

    The hysteria about melting ice caps, sea level rise, stronger storms, droughts, floods, forest fires, etc., has not materialized:
    * ice continues to accumulate at record levels in the Antarctic wherein lies 90% of the world’s ice inventory. Meanwhile, the Arctic Ice Cap has survived decades of predictions of its demise.
    * sea level rise according to Nils-Axil Morner, the world’s leading authority on sea level change, has not changed at all.
    * annual accumulated cyclonic energy is at historical lows, as are the overall number and strength of hurricanes and tornadoes.
    * Droughts and floods continue their march in tune with oceanic oscillations, such as, La Ninas and the Indian Ocean Dipole.
    * Forest fire activity remains at the mercy of lightning strikes, underbrush stockpiles and human interferences.

    Climate Change has no Evidence

    There is not one piece of empirical evidence linking human activities to the climate – NOT ONE. The only arguments for climate change besides the usual logical fallacies are anecdotes, computer projections, Hockey Sticks, and consensus.
    * Anecdotes are short, obscure historical or biographical accounts. Anecdotes cannot be traced to one another. Anecdotes are not proof.
    * Computer projections are Ludic fallacies based on dubious initial conditions. The computer projections have failed, because their only input is greenhouse gases. Computer projections are not proof.
    * Hockey Sticks are the cobbling together of two unrelated proxy data sets. These FrankenGraphs, which would have received an “F” in Junior High School science class 50 years ago, are incredibly embraced by many scientists today. Hockey Sticks are artifical fabrications, not proof.
    * Consensus is an opinion or position reached by a group as a whole. Millenia and centuries ago the consensus believed the Earth was the center of the Universe and Solar System. Consensus is not proof.

    To the contrary, there is abundant evidence proving the climate has changed often and sometimes violently, all without any human influence.

    The Temperature Record

    For the last 600,000,000 years temperatures have hovered around 12C about 14% of the time, around 22C about 50% of the time, and somewhere in between 36% of the time. Right now we are at 14.5C, about 25% above the bottom of the historical range. (Ref: Dr. Christopher R. Scotese‘s PALEOMAP Project at http://www.scotese.com/climate.htm). We are no where near any temperature tipping point.

    The 0.4C rise in temperature since the Industrial Revolution (IR) pales in comparison to the 1.6C increase of the Medieval Warming Period (WP), the 2.5C increase of the Roman WP, and the 3.2C increase of the Minoan WP using the IR as a baseline. The average temperature has been declining for the last 6,000 years. (Alley, R.B. 2000, The Younger Dryas cold interval as viewed from central Greenland, Quaternary Science Reviews, 19:213-226.) We are at the very end of the present 10,500 year old Interglacial WP. After this comes about 90,000 years of snow, ice, advancing glaciers and incredible loss of life. Enjoy the warmth while you can.

    The CO2 Record

    About 550,000,000 years ago CO2 was 7,000 ppm and has wound it‘s way down to where it is today, near it’s historic low (Berner, R.A. and Z. Kothavala, 2001. GEOCARB III: A Revised Model of Atmospheric CO2 over Phanerozoic Time, American Journal of Science, v.301, pp.182-204, February 2001.) Below 100 ppm photosynthesis ceases. We are very close to the tipping point of Earth turning into a lifeless snowball with too little CO2 for plants to reproduce. On the other hand, plants thrive in nurseries kept at CO2 concentrations of 1,000 ppm. Thanks to recent CO2 increases, vegetation has increased 11% in arid areas of the world.

    The famous Mauna Loa CO2 measurements began in 1958, coincidentally at a historic low CO2 level of 315 ppm. In 1942 and again in 1822 CO2 was 440 ppm, 40 ppm higher than today. (Ernst-Georg Beck, 180 Years of Atmospheric CO2 Gas Analysis By Chemical Methods, Energy & Environment, Volume 18 No. 2, 2007, Fig. 2).

    To say we are nearing runaway, irreversible global warming due to recent paltry CO2 increases is ludicrous.

    Temperatures and Fossil Fuel Use

    For the last 150 years there has not always been a correlation between fossil fuel use and temperature. Between 1940 and 1970 while CO2 increased, fossil fuel use leveled off and slightly decreased. (Klyashtorin and Lyubushim, Energy & Environment, Vol 14, No 6, Fig 1). If all the world’s known fossil fuel reserves were burned overnight, the resulting CO2 temperature increase would be no more than 5C.

    Temperatures and Solar Irradiance

    There have been three global cooling and three global warming periods within the last 250 years, all marching to the tune of changing solar irradiance, not CO2 concentrations. (Douglas V. Hoyt and Kenneth H. Schatten, A Discussion of Plausible Solar Irradiance Variations, 1700-1992, Journal of Geophysical Research, Vol. 98, No. All, Pages 18,895-18,906, November 1, 1993).

    Greenhouse Gas Effect (GGE)

    Only 3.27% of all CO2 generated comes from man, the other 96.73% comes from nature. Only 0.001% of water vapor comes from man; the other 99.999% comes from nature. Water vapor by a factor of 26 has more of a spectral absorption bandwidth or GGE than does CO2. After adding the contributions of methane, nitrous oxide, and CFCs it turns out only 0.28% of the GGE comes from man, the other 99.72% comes from nature. If man ceased to exist, the reduction in the GGE would be barely noticeable.

    Planetary Mechanics – THE Driver of Climate Change

    Planetary mechanics is the study of orbiting celestial bodies, including changes to the solar system barycenter, spin orbit coupling, and changes in angular momentum. It is the very interaction of the motion of the planets, Sun and moon which dictate our climate and our weather. This isn’t theory. This is astrophysics.

    Jupiter, Venus and Earth are called the Tidal Planets for good reason. They control the Sun’s tide and its 11 year sunspot cycle. There are many harmonics of this basic 11 year Schwab cycle. There is the 22 year Hale magnetic cycle. There is the 44 year Solar Conveyor Belt cycle. Every 88 years there is the Gleisberg cycle – an amplitude modulation of Schwab cycles. There is the 208 year Suess/deVries cycle. The 1,440 year Bond or Ice Debris Cycle. The 2,200 year Hallstadt Cycle.

    There are numerous other cycles built from combinations of solar, lunar and planetary cycles. Every 18 years there is the Lunar Tidal Cycle which corresponds to abundance cycles on Earth. About every 60 years there is the Pacific Decadal Oscillation cycle, the most powerful climate force on the planet.

    Then there is Uranus and Neptune (U-N) with their 178 year orbit beat cycle. The Sun also operates in 360 year cycles, a harmonic of the U-N cycle. Each 360 year cycle is composed of Regular Oscillations, followed by a Grand Solar Maximum, followed by a Grand Solar Minimum. This totally predictable 360 year cycle has resulted in the Oort, Sporer, Maunder, Dalton and other unnamed Minimums within the past two millennia.

    In 2009, we entered the next Grand Solar Minimum – the Landscheidt Minimum. This isn’t unfounded speculation. This is traceable, predictable planetary mechanics (Duhau and de Jager, The Forthcoming Grand Minimum of Solar Activity, Journal of Cosmology, 2010, Vol 8, 1983-1999). From this point forward be prepared for relentless colder winter temperatures which will reach bottom around 2040. Along the way there will be ever-increasing fuel scarcity, crop failures, food shortages, famines and loss of life of millions. The next Little Ice Age has begun. No amount of pithy CO2 increase is going to provide enough life-saving warmth. Prepare for decades of bone-chilling cold winters.

    Planetary mechanics is the elephant in the room of climate change. The planets control the climate of the Sun which, combined with the Moon, control the climate on the Earth. CO2 is only a flea on the elephant’s ass coming along for the ride.

    Climate Change is Big Business

    The myth of global warming, climate change, climate change catastrophe – or whatever they are calling it today – continues, because of the trillions of dollars that would be lost and millions of leaf-raking jobs eliminated, if this charade were to be exposed.
    * Banks and brokerage houses reap huge commissions from it.
    * Scam artists like Maurice Strong thrive on it, creating schemes like carbon trading which suck billions of dollars from consumers’ wallets.
    * Politicians need it to save us from imaginary hobgoblins and to justify tax increases to fund largesse programs that garner votes.
    * Scientists keep busy by grazing at the trough of free grant money made available, but only if it can be shown that man is the cause.
    * Corporations need it to sell cures for which there is no disease, and fatten up their bottom lines.
    * The alternative energy, Green Building and sustainability industries came into existence and thrive off of it.
    * The news media needs it to keep the frenzy going, the ratings up, and ad revenue coming in.
    * The United Nations needs it to forge its role as the leader in One World Governance.
    * Environmentalists, anti-industrialists, and other Communists need it in order to cut the legs out from underneath the evil, Capitalist United States and level the playing field for the world‘s less fortunate nations.

    This is the hideous symbiosis of individuals, groups, businesses and governments that need the myth of climate change kept alive for their very financial survival. They are not going to go away, so long as they can continue to mainline on the juice. It is time to yank the tube out of their arms.

    Get the facts visit:
    http://www.windpowerfraud.com
    http://www.aconvenientfabrication.com


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    Safetyguy66

    So Emma is convinced Tony can change the weather?

    Has she had her pills?


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    Agnostic

    I find this post and the subsequent comments very disappointing. Is this really how you want to go about changing people’s minds wrt the science behind climate change? There are much much smarter and far better informed people than Emma Thompson who genuinely beleive man made climate change is an urgent threat. I would bet that most people posting here, and certainly Jo herself, at one stage was very concerned about the issue and would do what they could if the opportunity arose to promote action on it. I am pretty sure she thinks she is doing the right thing and using her celebrity status for something worthwhile other than as a photo op for gossip magazine or whatever.

    Suppose she were to read this blog post and comments? How would the condescension affect her views? Most people, reasonable people, once confronted with the evidence that undermines the case for catastrophic human influence on the climate begin a process of shifting their views – it takes quite a long time for the whole thing to sink in, as it should. There is a lot of complex information to digest, and you have to go against a prevailing orthodoxy, and get to the bottom of memes such as 97%, the worlds institutions, the IPCC, arctic sea ice, as well as the very strong and generally desirable Eco-concern about not causing harm. Here, she would read the derision and just think that skeptics are a bunch of idiots and “flat-earthers” who want to be free to trash the planet, and who could blame her?

    And what is wrong with using celebrity status to promote a cause? Would any of you object if it was to raise awareness of female genital mutilation in Africa, or drinking water quality, or land mines, or care of the elderly? That she (and others like her) is informed enough to be worried about climate change, but not sufficiently informed enough not to be is hardly unique or surprising. Deriding her for trying to promote an important environmental issue is hardly constructive to the debate. The challenge is to try to communicate to people like her of the policy consequences of an over confident conclusion based on highly uncertain and immature science.


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      Dagfinn

      Agnostic, you’re raising an interesting question when you ask “what is wrong with using celebrity status to promote a cause”? Or perhaps, when is it wrong? And how do you what you’re actually supporting? During the 1970s here in Norway, I was sometimes accosted by Maoists who wanted me to join them in a demonstration on the anniversary of the 1968 Soviet invasion of Czechoslovakia. Although I agreed with the cause, I always said no because I realized that I would be supporting their worship of Maoist China and the then current Chinese view of the world (World War Three imminent and other weird stuff).

      I think a minimum of skepticism should be applied before supporting any cause, no matter how obvious it seems. Female genital mutilation? I would certainly take the time to consider whether there was some plan of action that would realistically help reduce the problem. And make sure the cure isn’t worse than the disease. That’s the main problem with climate policy, anyway.


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        Agnostic

        You make 2 good points:

        1. What if that cause is wrong?
        2. One should educate yourself thoroughly before championing a cause.

        1. Well, you could say that about anything. But we all have a morale compass and ought to be able to apply it whatever the circumstances. Hers is telling her that humans are negatively impacting the environment via CAGW (or however she understands it). That seems far more productive way to approach celebrity than for marrying some vapid socialite in order to get her picture in ok or something, even if she is wrong.

        2. By far the stronger point IMO. Climate change unfortunately is a case where a little information is a dangerous thing. I would be much happier seeing her being criticised for not taking the trouble for understanding the justification for tony abbots policy. IMO the biggest problem with the debate is the mischaracterisation of the skeptical reservations about the conclusions of the science. But this blog post and the comments aren’t really framed that way. What good would it do if she or her fans were to happen along? Would the reaction be; “oh that’s a point I hadn’t tight of” or “what a bunch of arseholes”.


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          Dagfinn

          I appreciate your point about Emma and her fans. And you’re probably right that that would be their reaction. As a general consideration, it’s an excellent point. So it comes down to what audience you’re addressing. I’m sure Jo would have chosen a less sarcastic tone if she were intending or expecting to persuade those people. She may prefer to entertain her regular audience rather than be diplomatic toward another, hypothetical audience. You may question the wisdom of that choice. I don’t know or care too much; they would probably be saying “what a bunch of arseholes” in any case.


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      Dagfinn

      In this particular case, she’s objecting to policy decisions by a named politician. Wouldn’t it be reasonable to at least expect her to hear his point of view and his reasons for those decisions? I haven’t heard them, but I’m fairly certain it isn’t “there is no such thing as climate change”. And given that, the argument she’s holding up is a straw man.


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        Eddie

        A straw man made of paper with feet of clay. To be fair she has probably just been handed it from the GP deck of rallying cards. (If you can pardon the mixing of metaphors).


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    gbees

    is her exact position known? I’ve surfed up that way in the past and I miss it. it was real fun …. http://www.arcticsurfers.is/


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    gbees

    she’s 55 y.o. seems the socialist brain hasn’t left as yet …


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    Michael

    While an actors are idiots, we can’t really expect them to be interested intelligent or interested in the evidence.
    Its more interesting to find why these decorated people are desperate to throw their credibility away.

    https://www.mja.com.au/journal/2014/201/5/open-letter-hon-tony-abbott-mp


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      what is wrong with these eminent doctors? Aren’t they versed in the mathematics of epidemiology? Aren’t they aware that evidence needs to be empirically based and not failed models? What is their agenda?

      “limiting coal-fired power plant emissions are explicitly linked to the protection of health.”

      This is just complete rubbish …. where is the empirical evidence supporting such a statement?


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    Dear Jo, I reckon you may have the spelling checker turned off; e.g. winning should have an ‘h’ in there somewhere, along with an ‘e’.


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    [...] Nova waxes sarcastic about actress Emma Thompson for her “card” to Australian Prime Minister Tony Abbot: “It [...]


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