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Farewell, Knights of Delingpole? Say it isn’t so!

Damn but we’ll miss you Dellers. Here today, what tomorrow? (See the Update #3: Brietbart.com? Plus note the story today on Spectator. Move those bookmarks eh?)

Of course we know we will keep tripping across your wake (I’m referring to the waves your words leave as they cut through the raging wash.)  I absolutely can’t believe we won’t be hearing more of you. The Delingpole will not be silenced… somehow, someway, those impish, wicked thoughts and savage put-downs will make their way out in to the world.

 

Farewell, Knights of Delingpole – and thank you, trolls

And thank you most of all to those of you who have supported me through thick and thin. Thanks for your technical expertise and advice (it prevented anyone ever noticing that I’m an English graduate and know NOTHING about science apart from, maybe, how to grow copper sulphate crystals); thanks for your jokes, links and irrelevant asides; thanks for your friendship and loyalty and courage in the face of sometimes, near insuperable odds, against the dark forces of statism, political correctness, and green-left-liberal lunacy. You are like brothers to me: all of you; apart from the ones who are more like sisters.

–   James Delingpole

Dear James, it wouldn’t have been the same without you, and it’s been a blast. No one else unleashed the English language with the Dellers-finesse to cut down the self-rightous, the pompous and the parasites. (And no one else got 2,000 comments a post either). I do believe you, GWPF and the Bishop transformed the lost Isles after November 2009.  Do make sure you tell us when your next book is out, or your next project. Whatever it is.

As for your expertise, you are far too modest. You have a much better grip on the scientific method than, say, Paul Nurse. The shame is that you are not running the Royal Society.

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For readers suffering withdrawal, go buy all of  James’ Books (use this link): (Darn, the link is now dead! James James, honestly?!)

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eg: Killing the Earth to Save It (How Environmentalists are ruining the planet, destroying the economy and stealing your jobs)

 

POST NOTE: My reply just posted in comments to a critic.

 

“Delingpole is playing the toughest game and doing it extremely well. There is no “rough justice” when the fully funded state uses dishonest editing to portray him as something that he is not.

Delingpole’s ego is merely necessary armour and the entertaining magnet used to spread the message. Indeed part of his success is his disarming candor. Another is his bravery at fighting a battle on hostile foreign ground (science). How many would put their professional reputation on the line in an area where others spend their whole lives being prepared and rewarded for learning intricate details to defend their opinion. He had no such luxury, but saw the crookedness and corruption and did something about it.

If the world had more Delingpoles, we would all be richer, healthier and happier because common sense would reign.

UPDATE #3: Could be Dellers had an offer from Brietbart.com which is setting up a branch in the UK? Thanks to Janet and Peter for the tip.

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    LevelGaze

    Lord, I’ll miss him.

    But he didn’t come across well in these cunningly and maliciously edited BBC TV programs. (Jo has some personal experience of the process.)


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      It was actually because of James’s ambush interview that David and I knew we had to independently film the ABC filming us. When asked, we mentioned “dellers” and the BBC to the Director, he got it straight away.

      It worked out pretty well in the end. We got the video proof that there was not even the pretense of impartial editing, and they scored no gaffe, no big mistake to wave. Instead after four hours in our house they had to edit me down to 18 non sequential words, and rearrange the words in one of David’s sentences. It must have taken them hours…


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        Roy Hogue

        Jo,

        I’m amazed at your self control when you talk about such treatment. I could not resist letting my anger show through as you do. How do you manage it?


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          Yonniestone

          For anyone reading this blog and doesn’t know much about Jo & David this unedited footage of “I can Change your mind” speaks volumes of the deceit of the ABC in Australia but especially the professionalism of Jo & David. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W2myom3cLI0

          This is what went to air and take notice of the outright insult towards Jo & david by Anna Rose before entering their home.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IqO7lGKYU0Q
          as my old Mum would have said “they have the patience of a saint.”


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            Dave N

            Thanks for the links. I have acquaintances who put the ABC in the ranks of sainthood; this would silence them entirely.


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            Bulldust

            I would not have that patience. I do not tolerate dumb very well … nay, at all. Unfortunately that plays into their hands because they would then edit out all but the ‘blue’ parts and paint me as a looney. This is how the media is. If you think they aren’t biased, filtered, etc think again.

            I watched a good TED talk this morning about the tabloid media failing democracy. I highly recommend it. The obvious solution is the internet. Blogs without heavy censorship, such as this one, allow open discussion of ideas. Democracy is meaningless unless people participate … blogging is a type of participation. Change the way people think and you change how they talk to and vote for their representatives.


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            Andrew McRae

            Smith & Nasht (S&N) were the production company who actually did the editing, possibly under ABC supervision.
            star comment
            One of the more egregious examples (it’s the one Jo mentions in the youtube description) is the fabrication of a sentence using David’s words.
            At Uncut 0:24:40 David says “The 2nd bit of evidence which shows the climate models are fundamentally flawed. Most of the heat in the climate is contained in the oceans, relatively small amount in the air, right?” and he shows the Argo OHC graphs.
            A brief portion of the discussion that follows about Argo, including the graph, are shown in S&N’s TV edit at 4:05, but the first sentence of his Argo introduction was not. Instead at 4:30 his previous statement (introducing Argo) is played over the top of footage of him pointing to the Rome airport weather station photo, implying the models are wrong because of weather station site quality.

            What David actually said to introduce the relevance of the Rome photo at Uncut 0:41:01 was: “We reckon the climate scientists have got a failed model on their hands, and they’re cheating and concealing the failure of their model. One of the ways they can conceal the failure is to mis-measure the temperature”. That sentence was never broadcast but a closeup of his hand movements on the photo were, with audio from the previous discussion about Argo.

            If it’s not obvious as to why this is an egregious fabrication, it helps to look at the edited clip as the scientific method gone wrong. You can only use accurate measurements (eg Argo) to establish that a model is wrong, no measurements can ever tell you a model is 100% right. Inaccurate measurements don’t tell you anything either way. Knowing measurement inaccuracies are present is useful for casting doubt on any model which has been trained or validated against those measurements, in this case the scary CAGW models being validated by UHI-contaminated data. To say the models are wrong because of UHI-contaminated land measurements is illogical, and to depict David as saying this is a fabrication.
            To completely cut Jo out of the clip altogether must surely be done out of jealousy and public relations, if it’s not an attitude much less egalitarian.

            All in a day’s work for the ABC and their fellow travellers at Smith & Nasht.


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            Bulldust

            So to be clear … did she say something like:

            “I’d really like to do this (entry/interview?) without this loopy, paranoid stuff going on?”


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        It shouldn’t be overlooked that Delingpole has an ego problem, so there was an element of rough justice in his video ambush and subsequent ‘look very stupid’ moment. A similar accusation would have no validity against our host on this blog… :)


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          Delingpole is playing the toughest game and doing it extremely well. There is no rough justice when the fully funded state uses dishonest editing to portray him as something that he is not.

          Delingpole’s ego is merely necessary armour and the entertaining magnet used to spread the message. Indeed part of his success is his disarming candor. Another is his bravery at fighting a battle on hostile foreign ground (science). How many would put their professional reputation on the line in an area where others spend their whole lives being prepared and rewarded for learning intricate details to defend their opinion. He had no such luxury, but saw the crookedness and corruption and did something about it.

          If the world had more Delingpole’s, we would all be richer, healthier and happier because common sense would reign.


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            “If the world had more Delingpole’s, we would all be richer, healthier and happier because common sense would reign.”

            On the contrary, if we had more scientists, who we know are out there in significant numbers, stick their heads up above the parapet and point out the falsity of the AGW argument, then the world would tend towards your desired conditions prevailing…


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              Roy Hogue

              On the contrary, if we had more scientists, who we know are out there in significant numbers, stick their heads up above the parapet and point out the falsity of the AGW argument, then the world would tend towards your desired conditions prevailing…

              Jabba,

              This looks so good on paper doesn’t it? And if it could be true, might indeed solve the problem.

              But are you willing to hold your breath while trying to accomplish your ideal situation? And then, how do you maintain that ideal?

              The real problem here is how to hold authority figures, any kind of authority figure, accountable and keep them honest. And human society has yet to figure out even the fact that it needs to hold them accountable, much less how.

              Delingpole’s ego wasn’t a problem to me nor to anyone I know. In fact it was part of what made him an effective defense against all the nonsense. We need a few of him in our major journalistic outlets — more than a few.


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                “This looks so good on paper doesn’t it? And if it could be true, might indeed solve the problem.”

                We have a very good indicator from the quantity and scope of the Oregon petition signatories, dating from a time before the warmists had organized enough push back to make these scientists feel for the safety of their jobs and hence the signatories had no problems taking a public position on this issue. It is also reasonable to assume that as the AGW topic has received greater media exposure, other scientists across the broad spectrum of the sciences would draw similar skeptical conclusions about anthropogenic climate theories, based on mathematical model projections, that don’t have any realistic bearing on actual world events…


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                Roy Hogue

                Jabbe,

                I think maybe you’ve inadvertently made my point for me. The Petition Project went nowhere, in good measure because of intimidation, not just of the scientists but of those who fund their work also.

                You be the final judge. I’m not interested in forcing my view on you. But I’d say you made my point.


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          Vic G Gallus

          Jabba, how old are you to be trying to cut down tall poppies? The biggest ego problem in a teenager.


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        bullocky

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        Delingpole, with his sub-cutaneous humour, has tormented the cAGW elite incessantly. The BBC and Royal Society’s (in the form of Sir Paul Nurse) shoddy journalistic trick, targeting Delingpole, is testimony to his effectiveness.
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        Somehow, I feel their respite will be short.


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        Malcolm Hill

        I am staggered to believe that their ABC committed such brazen act of fraud and misrepresentation, and then actually admitted they did…

        …”edit me down to 18 non sequential words, and rearrange the words in one of David’s sentences. It must have taken them hours…”

        That’s not journalism, its bare faced lying

        What a unique breed of scum bags they are.


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        janama

        The fascinating part is that after all their deceitful editing and hanky panky with that “I CAN CHANGE YOUR MIND ABOUT..CLIMATE” ABCTV program they changed no one’s mind – Those dismissive well outnumbered the alarmed in the end.

        But of course the ABC kept quiet about that.


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        PhilJourdan

        I think they got models to do that now. So they can come up with the wrong words and out of context statements much faster.


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    ExWarmist

    I don’t know anyone else who writes with such a distinctive style as James Delingpole.

    His entertaining exposes of all things leftard will be missed.

    Good luck to his next venture.


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      mc

      Oh no! This is sad news. What an uplifting voice Delingpole has been to me and no doubt many others when spirits have been flagging in the face of overwhelming collectivist/establishment forces, strangling and distorting science, reasoned discourse and social/economic policy.
      A rational and humane society cannot afford to lose too many of his likes. I hope we get to hear his voice again soon.


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    Delingpole learned a lot from the Paul Nurse interview, after that the gloves came off and he took no prisoners, he took Richard Bacon apart in a radio interview and then the opportunitis dried up, he wasn’t going to be allowed to flower.

    I hope he does well and same thing goes for Mark Steyn.


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      Morph

      Sorry, no he realy didn’t in this instance – I heard it live in the UK.

      Bacon is a full on warmist (although he drives (or drove) a Porsche 911 – hey saving the planet only goes so far…) but he is also an expert interviewer and very good at winding people up.

      Dellingpole allowed Bacon to get under his skin and ended up sounding like someone foaming at the mouth – it was not his finest hour despite what he might like to think and post on his blog – which I will miss too by the way even if I didn’t always agree with him.


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      blackadderthe4th

      @ tim spence
      February 14, 2014

      ‘Delingpole learned a lot from the Paul Nurse interview’ like what? Because he doesn’t do science!

      The Telegraph, UK newspaper, James Delingpole blogger and climate change denier, as interviewed by Sir Paul Nurse.

      [and people like me who haven’t got scientific background but are interested] just back to the evidence again…we get a source of evidence through the internet, books, prime publications is not your thing [it is not my job to sit down and read peer reviewed papers because I simply haven’t got the time, haven’t got the scientific knowledge…what I rely on is people who have got the time…I am an interpreter of interpretations]

      Watch at:-

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0cw7MS12flU


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    Roy Hogue

    Delingpole could hit exactly the right point with the sharpest spear and drive it deeper than anyone. His detractors must be rejoicing. :-(


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      klem

      They may rejoice for a bit, but I know he’s going to pop up somewhere else, another newspaper maybe. And when he does, I’ll be reading his page regularly just like I read this one regularly. Give him time.

      BTW, you Ozzies are lucky to have Jo Nova. If she were positioned on he other side of the climate issue, I’d hate to imagine where you’d be right now. Seriously.


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        KinkyKeith

        klem

        First impressions can be deceptive.

        Roy is an “honorary” Aussie as are all who post here!

        KK


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          Roy Hogue

          Roy is an “honorary” Aussie as are all who post here!

          KK,

          It’s a great privilege to be referred to as an honorary Aussie. Thank you very much.


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            KinkyKeith

            Hi Roy,

            Just be careful; if our government finds out your new status as an “honorary” they may want you to pay tax to help fund “their” ABC and other climate related projects.

            I’ve just come back from 3 weeks in Vietnam.

            One of the big let downs on coming back was the frantic, aggressive nature of our driving here in Aus.

            By contrast the driving in VN is also a bit frantic, but there is a noticeable absence of aggression and risk taking and a signal to me that we in the west need to chill out a little bit.

            On the political(money?) side of things Communism has gone full circle and become capitalist. The Prime Ministers son in law is going to be the “name” on the first MacDonalds franchises in Saigon.

            KK


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              Roy Hogue

              KK,

              Not that this will be much consolation but driving has become a problem here too, with more and more people taking risks, including running a red light. The funny thing is that along with this, freeway speeds have slowed down, not increased. Of course that makes the hurry or die people do even crazier things to get a car or two ahead of where they were. I’m very happy to be retired and not have to make that 27 mile trip to work in the morning and repeat it again in the evening.

              I’m glad to hear that VN is succeeding economically. As the Chinese finally learned, individual initiative and the ability to keep the wealth you create is always the winner. Too bad our “leaders” here think the failed policies of the past should be imposed on America.


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              Roy Hogue

              I don’t think they’ll be able to tax me, however. :-)


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          Kevin Lohse

          Fair Dinkum, sport. At least I get to support a decent, though ephemeral, cricket team.


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    I’ve offered him an honorary title of Doctor from the “University of Sceptics” for his role in making scepticism respectable.

    The worst, thing is that it is the success of people like Delingpole in changing the debate and forcing those in authority to admit that there’s been a pause or that the climate models have not worked, which I think has taken the edge out of the debate.

    You certainly can’t get the kind of warmist commenters that one used to get before Climategate. The quality has gone out, their enthusiam has died and there really isn’t that much left for someone like Delingpole as everyone starts to agree with us sceptics.


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      Vic G Gallus

      You don’t know how depressed that has made me. It is so obvious that people have been rewarded with titles, jobs and money to peddle what they must have realised, by now, is not true. These titles have gone from singling out people who you could trust to do the hard graft in figuring out the truth, to giving an ego boost to someone reading off a script.


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    Stuart Elliot

    His blog, WUWT, Jo’s fine blog here, Bishop Hill, Small Dead Animals and Real Science are part of my daily circuit around the interwebs. In some agency’s profile of internet users I probably get rated as an extremist based on my page viewing.

    The lessons I learn from all of these? Being correct is necessary but not sufficient. The climate discussion like all politics requires messaging and combat skills, not just charts and analysis. Delingpole was good at this.

    Because of him, when alarmists making outrageous claims were exposed to humiliation, not just correction, some probably thought twice before making outrageous claims again. More please!

    Delingpole is one of a kind, and has helped move the indicator away from the Extreme Alarm side of the dial. Still a ways to go yet, though, and his contribution will be missed.


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    Carbon500

    James Delingpole says: “Thanks for your technical expertise and advice (it prevented anyone ever noticing that I’m an English graduate and know NOTHING about science apart from, maybe, how to grow copper sulphate crystals)”
    I would say that on the contrary James, you are much more of a scientist than many of those who claim to be, despite their science degrees. You have an enquiring mind, asked questions and sought answers, and have the courage to stand up, say what you think and argue your corner.
    For me, science is also a flexible state of mind – if something doesn’t seem right, accept it and go for another line of investigation. Don’t waste time flogging a dead horse, explore new avenues – a vital lesson I learned from my truly wonderful and gifted supervisors in my Ph.D. studies.
    Good luck in whatever you do in the future!


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    William Baird

    On the contrary I think that the BBC ambush was so very poorly done that it was clear to viewers what they were up to.

    At the time I felt the editing was SO bad that whoever was doing it was trying to let it be known that he or she wasnt exactly keen to be a part of the attempted mugging by the Royal Society (someday that organisation, like several other so called learned societies will be wound up when ‘the cause’ is finally defeated).

    Good on you James, you have been a light in the darkness of climate advocacy.


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    Thank you James for all your sterling work over the years at the Telegraph. You do realise how many paid trolls are now out of a job because of your departure.

    I’m sure you’ll keep up the good work in fields anew.

    Pointman


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    Manfred

    Delingpole, this interlude better be confined to three days of rest before your Resurrection.

    God Speed and thank you.


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    Yonniestone

    James Delingpole was one of my first contacts to the skeptical world of AGW via “Climate Change Dispatch” his insights and wit brought a whiff of (dare I say it) Oscar Wilde to journalism and the internet, thankfully men of this caliber don’t just go away.


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    Stephen Richards

    Where are you going Dellers? Come back!!


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    It’s been an interesting ride at the London Tele, that’s for sure. But James is merely moving a few blocks away. He’ll still be about.


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    mike

    A “ditty” from a “poetaster” admirer on the occasion:

    Perhaps only
    A Delingpole
    Could have assumed
    The thankless role

    Of class traitor
    To green-shirt schemes
    Bent on the hive’s
    Eugenics dreams


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    john robertson

    What do you bet Dellers is going where most of us will be forced to follow?
    Politics.
    The days of deliberately allowing fools to appoint the parasites are over.
    Our civic structures failed completely in the face of CAGW.
    Mostly because these structures are infested, with fools and bandits.
    As the scam fades away, as the new meme grows, what will you do with your rage?

    As sickening as it sounds, the only way civil society can be maintained is by having competent people at the controls.
    We have deferred to the axe-grinders, delusional nitwits and bandits for far to long.
    Unless we clear the institutions of these parasitic infestations, where is the hope for your children?
    Stop it now, or watch it continue to slide into chaos.

    Ponder this; Can you negotiate with a parasite?

    Is the progressive mindset a mental disorder?


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      Roy Hogue

      John,

      An interesting point. But some can hack it in politics and some can’t. So there’s plenty of room for both.

      And consider this — in any self governing society the people at the real controls are the voters, not those who govern. We send people to public office from our own ranks when it comes right down to it. So as I see it, if the voters can’t make better choices then all is lost. It’s our problem to figure out how to get a better class of voters as well as getting a better class of office holders. Otherwise the same old scoundrels keep getting back in at the front door as fast as you can sweep them out the back door.


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        john robertson

        To quote the Obamanation; The collapse of CAGW scam can be a teachable moment.
        We have had it easy for 3 generations, as a group we westerners have never had it so good.
        Good times= low guard.
        Low guard= more fools.
        More fools= destruction of public wealth & freedoms.
        Don’t know about USA but in Canada up to 50% do not vote, a pox on all your houses, being their mantra. What % of the Australian vote gets spoilt?
        Voters need to believe in the game .
        I have been exploring the cost of civilization.
        While civil society brings benefits such as more wealth than living tribal, there are costs.
        We pay these until they exceed the benefit.
        Then we go tribal again, leave the official economy, stop contributing taxes.
        But civilization is an illusion.

        I have begun to believe we can make politics both entertaining and beneficial, if we convince citizens to regard government as a morality play, with only one function, that of maintaining the illusion.
        Then the comic aspect, over the top punishment for failure to keep to the script, Obama would be before a squad by now, under this understanding.
        Theft would not be rewarded.


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          crakar24

          What % of the Australian vote gets spoilt?

          We all vote, if we dont we get a fine its the price of livng in a democracy :-) , of the 100% of votes i would say approx 7% are informal, this would be from people noy understanding how to fill out the form properly to intentional informal vote (protest vote).


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          Roy Hogue

          Voting isn’t compulsory in the U.S. as it is in Australia, so that leaves those who aren’t motivated enough to figure out how to register and then get out and do it, free to avoid the responsibility. What percentage of the population falls in that group I can’t say and it varies from election to election I’m sure. Now to me that’s a desirable thing. If you aren’t motivated enough to actually go to the local fire station and register, if you’re not motivated enough to actually go to the local polling place and cast your ballot, then you’re not motivated enough to learn what’s really going on and I’m quite happy that you stay away on election day.

          Only the left worries about that non participation but the right is too cowardly to stand up and say what I just did. So they go merrily along with the left and they’ve gotten laws passed or allowed them to be passed allowing registration by mail and at the DMV. Aha! There is motivation to get your car registered, isn’t there? So why not register to vote at the same time? They have volunteers pick up people and take them to register, then take them to the polls and I’ve no doubt they also tell them how to vote — Democrat’s desired slate of candidates and measures only — and of course this amounts to the same person voting multiple times which drives me right up the wall. Obama got elected this way and once in office has been pouring favors ($$$$) on his “food stamp” army ever since. I wonder why. And the Obama justice department fights any and all attempts by the states to clean up their voter lists as required by law. They sue in Federal Court to stop the states from following federal law (imagine that!).

          Voter fraud is rampant in some precincts and in one well documented case 100 or more ballots were found in the trunk of an election worker’s car, completely outside of the prescribed chain of custody. But of course, they were not “found” until after the Democrat was about to lose a very close election and then the final 100 were trotted out. Lo and behold, all 100 were votes for the Democrat and it turned the tide for him. Now even in a heavily Democrat precinct, which it was, there would be some Republican votes. Nope, all Democrat. But the real problem is that those ballots are of completely unknown origin. Did someone make them up to save the day after a recount was begun? Any honest person would suspect so and reject those ballots. I would be ashamed to try to pull off something like that.

          Then there’s the practice of trying to determine the voter’s intent when the ballot is spoiled regarding that particular candidate or issue (also a new benefit from our beneficent political far left). How nice, right? Now stop me if I’m wrong but an election is, by definition, entirely objective. If the voter marked the ballot clearly then it’s counted and if not then it isn’t. But now we enter the realm of the subjective and try to figure out what the voter meant. How do you define criteria for doing that? I have no idea. Has anyone?

          Then we have the case of the woman who voted at her old address in Florida and again at her new address in another state. She was and no doubt still is a government official too. As far as I’ve heard she’s still not in jail, not even in any danger of prosecution, though what she did is clearly a crime. It did derail her nomination for a federal appointed office at least. This is a benefit of being so easily able to vote by mail by the way.

          Did I mention that they would also like non citizens to vote? Did I mention that the dead have voted? Did I mention that they have managed to have the same person vote more than once (and I mean for real)? Did I mention that my local paper, in an editorial talked about our illegal alien population as illegal citizens?

          We foolishly lowered the voting age from 21 to 18 and if you’ve read the UN Convention on the Rights of the Child you may well suspect they would like to have a voting age of about 10, just the point where they start to know everything. Think about it. Voters who know everything could run the country without any problem. Right?

          This is what the last 100+ years of not paying attention has done to these United States of America. And we did it to ourselves, no one forced us to make such foolish and stupid decisions.

          John, you’re right about how things go. We pay the cost until it exceeds the benefit. But by now the cost has far exceeded the benefit so when do we stop paying the cost?

          There’s no need to have Obama in front of a squad. What I want would be better all the way around. I’ll settle for tossing him out the front White House gate onto Pennsylvania Avenue on his ass, the sidewalk will do (although traffic in the street is now blocked so he’d be in no danger even in the street), in broad daylight in full public view.

          How can we get rid of this abomination gripping the country?


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            john robertson

            Roy at risk of further wandering off topic, it has already begun.
            Participation rate, falling.
            Welfare rolls way up.(All state payout plans)
            Production shrinking.
            Investment down.
            What I fail to produce can not be taxed.
            Wilful ignorance of stupid laws.
            As the state works to define us all as criminals, our compliance quota drops like a stone.
            Civilization teaters on the edge of collapse.
            Pretty simple government can only govern those who agree to respect their authority.
            Once the government breaches all contracts, its authority is gone.
            That is the rule of law.


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              John,

              I know it’s happening but my reply to this,

              Pretty simple government can only govern those who agree to respect their authority.

              unfortunately has to be that they’re showing plenty of evidence of being willing to literally use force to control those who don’t comply. Military leaders have been asked if they would fire on American citizens. That can only end badly for everyone.

              Roy


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                john robertson

                Roy, of course it ends badly for all.
                That is what one of your founders was saying;We have given you a republic if you can keep it.
                Then on to the blood of tyrants.
                Our history, human nature seems to tell us, these things will happen.
                The governing elites lose touch, believe their own BS, steal ever more, stealing gets harder, so they use more force, damage production ever further, more force, enrage more citizens, and spiral is set.
                We are unique in history, in that we have near instantaneous communication world wide.
                Whether this will help or hinder? The next generations might know.
                But we hesitate to react, is the mendacity we observe real? Or me projecting my fears?
                It is always the way, conservers are cursed with caution.
                The certainty of youth,madness and or fear are only available to those who abandon reason.


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    William

    I read his farewell yesterday but am still reluctant to take his link out of my Favourites. I am hoping it is just a “pausing” or a “hiatus” rather than a stoppage!


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    The Griss

    Wouldn’t it be nice if he could give us a visit :-)


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    g1lgam3sh

    I’ll definitely miss him.

    So many opportunities to skewer so many witless trolls.

    Fish in a barrel is one thing, our trolls were more minnows in teacups.


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    crakar24

    OT kinda,

    I am reporting to you once again from ground zero and as i look around me the scene can only be described as horrible every where i look there are people flapping their wings and laying eggs it is a truly horrific scene.

    To detail what transpired to create such mayhem i need to go back to 1897/98 Dec/Feb. In this year we had 11 days above 40C and on Wednesday last this record was broken. This record caused the flapping but cause of the laying was what happened next.

    In the next 24 hours Adelaide shattered a 40 year rainfall record (In Feburary) in (24 hours), this second record sent local companies into a frenzy jostling for who would be named the “most effected” currently the whine industry is leading the pack with tourism a close second.

    It is rumoured Christine Milne will be flown in to prop up flagging spirits and lift the troops moral with a stirring rendition of “The great gig in the sky” accompanied by Bob “i blame the coal miners” Brown on piano.

    More news as it comes to hand


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      Update,

      The eggs are thick on ground here as news has come through the record breaking rain now extends back 45 years with more rain forecast for today. Adelaide received its monthly rain fall yesterday with another monthly fall expected today with more rain forecast for tomorrow.

      The cricketers are up in arms as they were told two weeks in a row that it was too hot to play and now they wont be able to due to rain. On a sour note Christine Milne’s performance has been cast into doubt due to flooding.


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        Bob Malloy

        Records, Records,records and more records on a daily basis. It all fits in with our projections going back to 1988, 1995, 2000, 2005, 2010, 2011, 2012, 2013, January, February 1st, February 10th, they came as a revelation yesterday. See we have been telling you for years, your all condemned as heretics.

        sarc/


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        The Griss

        “with more rain forecast for tomorrow.”

        BOM forecast ?

        Good luck with that :-)


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          crakar24

          The first i heard we were getting 100mm of rain was about an hour after it started raining, up until then it was Thursday 70% chance of rain, Friday 80% chance of rain.

          Thats how good the BOM are…………….

          I have learnt to take there “its gunna be hot” predictions with a grain of salt and there “we might get some rain” as a harbinger of impending floods.

          Once you do this adjustment i find they are very accurate.


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            Vic G Gallus

            I might have screwed my crop by trusting the BOM. Light showers last evening and some rain today turned into evening rain and then two days of heavy rain after it started raining!


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            Roy Hogue

            Unless you have some compelling reason to need an accurate forecast — like crops to worry about or driving potentially icy roads — I’ve found it sufficient to simply ignore the forecasters, take with me a suitable jacket and an umbrella and then simply take what comes at me. I’d be a little more careful if I lived in snow country. But still, you have no choice but to take whatever comes at you. So I learned to be prepared.

            I can look out the window and make a “forecast” as good as some by those TV personality types with their high tech maps and graphics.

            If you have access to aviation weather info, that tends to be better in the short term than your TV set. But even there it’s not ironclad.


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        Rereke Whakaaro

        I fail to see what all the fuss is about. Rain is only grown-up water vapour, after all. Just think of all that global warming, in the form of latent heat, that it is withdrawing from the climate.


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        Bones

        On a sour note Christine Milne’s performance has been cast into doubt due to flooding.

        Crakup,you twisted demented soul,the non appearance of christine milne would be a blessing for any community,particularly one that is already blessed with one of earth’s truly great oxygen thieves shy.


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          Bones,

          You do realise it was a joke?

          The great gig in the sky is a song by Pink Floyd sung by an opera singer who does not actually vovalise any words, she just kind of screams into the microphone which is what Milne does of course.

          Also the Adeliade Fringe festival is on in Adelaide, currently under water, the fringe as the name suggests is a gathering of freaks that call themselves artists just the place where you will find a green MP/voter, as i said it was a joke.

          This link will take you to a picture which should also be considered a joke but unfortunately it is not.

          http://jennifermarohasy.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/02/IMG_2485.jpg

          This pic forces ones self to confront the stupidity of others at a level never before thought of.


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            Bones

            You do realise it was a joke?

            Crakar24,this would be one of those gotcha moments because anything with milne or shyoung being mentioned is always going to be a joke on someone.Keep working on your ground zero reporting,the ABC may be looking for new talent.How do I put a quote in without the whole comment being the same,bloody computers.


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              crakar24

              They offered Speedy and myself jobs but we declined, decided to stay here at Blog central, the pays crap but the company is better.


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                Bones

                ABC probably not a good option anyway,working in a plastic coat and wellingtons would not be too comfy,not a good look either.
                The worlds best Floyd cover band is from S.A.


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            Kevin Lohse

            Should somebody tell them that the growth of the coral making the cay is a function of the level of the sea water surrounding it, or shall we let them find out for themselves?


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        crakar24

        Update II,

        The Port Wakefield road (major arterial road north of Adelaide) has now become a long large straight carpark due to people laying eggs flooding.


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        Matty from England

        The cricketers are up in arms as they were told two weeks in a row that it was too hot to play and now they wont be able to due to rain.

        Over here the cricketers are quite happy to stay in the Arms. Here’s a nice one I tried the other day. Cricketer’s Arms, Wisborough Green.


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    pat

    thanx james for helping to blaze the sceptical trail. without you, i doubt today we’d be reading articles such as the following:

    13 Feb: UK Daily Mail: Matt Chorley: ‘Unthinking climate change worship harms UK’: Tory energy minister hits back at Lib Dem attack on ‘diabolical’ coalition partners
    Energy Secretary Ed Davey used floods crisis to launch attack on Tories
    Climate change denial and Euro-scepticism are a ‘diabolical cocktail’
    Tory energy minister Michael Fallon warns against coalition squabbling
    Claims rush to be green has harmed industry and pushed up bills
    Lib Dem Energy Secretary Ed Davey is using the floods crisis to launch an extraordinary attack on ‘diabolical’ and ‘wilfully ignorant, head in the sand, nimbyist’ Conservatives who question global warming.
    But Conservative energy minister Michael Fallon has hit back, insisting now is not the time for ‘political’ squabbling…
    Mr Davey said climate change denial and Euro-scepticism are a ‘diabolical cocktail’ that threatens efforts to tackle global warming…
    Mr Davey’s intervention will be seen as an attack on Environment Secretary Owen Paterson in particular, who harbours doubts about the degree to which man has contributed to global warming…
    Former Conservative Chancellor Lord Lawson insisted there was no evidence that extreme weather was linked to climate change, and urged scientists to admit they did not know what was happening.
    He told BBC Radio 4′s Today programme: ‘I think we want to focus not on this extremely speculative and uncertain area. I don’t blame the climate scientists for not knowing.
    ‘Climate and weather is quite extraordinarily complex and this is a very new form of science. All I blame them for is pretending they know when they don’t.’…
    ‘I think this is a wake-up call. We need to abandon this crazy and costly policy of spending untold millions on littering the countryside with useless wind turbines and solar panels and moving from a sensible energy policy of having cheap and reliable forms of energy to a policy of having unreliable and costly energy – give up that…
    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2558577/Tory-energy-minister-Michael-Fallon-hits-Lib-Dem-Ed-Daveys-attack-diabolical-coalition-partners.html


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    Marty from England

    Where is he going ? Why won’t he tell us ? Is it to be President of the Girl Guides ?


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      Matty from England

      OK, perhaps that seemed a bit rough to many of the delicate souls here but Dellers would get it.

      What a communicator and a thinker. He will be sadly missed.


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    Neville

    I often zipped over to read Delingpole’s latest offer and I’ll miss him as well.

    But we still have the Bolter who’ll be starting up a new 1 hour TV show soon.
    I just posted this at Jen’s blog.

    The Bolter has had a hard time getting BM Flannery and the SMH to stop telling lies about him.

    http://blogs.news.com.au/heraldsun/andrewbolt/index.php/heraldsun/comments/on_trying_to_correct_tim_flannerys_smear/#commentsmore

    That video at Bolt’s link is a beauty, showing Tim’s stupid exaggerated BS about rising SLs and the bizarre idea that you should either eat your pooch or sleep with him.
    You definitely couldn’t make this stuff up.


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      18/03/2008
      Act now or repent forever
      The consequences of complacency on climate change will be dire. By Dr Tim Flannery
      Last year, Earth Hour demonstrated just how many of us really do care about our common future.
      I hope that the initiative can be expanded until one day the people of big cities such as Sydney and Melbourne can once again enjoy the light of the heavens on many days each year, unobscured by a wasteful blaze fuelled by a black, polluting rock.
      ~ ~ ~
      June 16, 2011
      Professor Flannery said the science was settled that humans were causing the world to warm.
      ~ ~ ~
      20 Sep 2013
      Professor Flannery says, despite the difficulties he experienced as commissioner, he would gladly do it all again.
      “[For us] that’s making sure that my children, your children and even the sceptics’ children have a decent quality of life into the future.”
      ~ ~ ~
      8 Feb, 2014-
      Tim Flannery: a man for all climates

      Is there anything he does that isn’t environmentally sound?

      ‘Bless me father, for I have sinned,” he says.
      ”It’s been 45 years since my last confession: I probably eat too much meat and fly too much.
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    12 Feb: UK Dailly Mail: Daniel Martin: So why wasn’t Thames dredged? In case a rare mollusc was disturbed – despite the region being described as one of the most ‘undefended flood plains in England’
    The endangered mollusc halted calls to dredge strife-hit stretch of water
    Environment Agency put welfare of ‘aquatic species’ before residents
    In a 2010 report, seen by the Mail, they ruled out dredging between Datchet and Staines because the river bed was home to the vulnerable creatures.
    And even though a public consultation indicated support for de-silting work, the quango said it would be ‘environmentally unacceptable’ due to the ‘high impact on aquatic species’…
    But last night a spokesman at the Environment Agency said the report on mussels was ‘badly worded’ and the presence of the mussels would not have been the only argument against dredging…
    The revelation came as it emerged that EU waste regulations have made regular dredging on Britain’s rivers uneconomic.
    Documents released under the Freedom of Information Act revealed that the disposal of silt became so complex and expensive that it was more attractive to take advantage of financial incentives given by Brussels to conservation schemes…
    However, the previous year the Agency held a public consultation with residents along the banks of the Thames, and the official report shows that they thought ‘dredging of pinch points of the River Thames is essential to provide interim relief from flooding’…
    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2558087/So-wasnt-Thames-dredged-In-case-rare-mollusc-disturbed-despite-region-described-one-undefended-flood-plains-England.html


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      The Griss

      On the ‘biblical floods” thread, I said (or maybe, implied) that lack of dredging would surface as an issue.

      They had things under control mostly..

      Then the green, anti-human agenda, accompanied by the EU, arrived !


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        Steve

        Yes well the greenies had to suck it up when lack of back burning turned parts of australia into a flora equivelent of supertankers of petrol – needless to say the above mentioned dimwits crowed on cue pavlovian-like to “its caused by global warming”, only to be followed by the sound of much squarking and shrieking – as those with common sense came after them with the sharp “axe” of science-based logic.

        Oddly enough – much backburning has occurred around the previous Green Shangri-la fiefdom of the A.C.T.

        Silence has ensued from the green camp for quite some time.

        We love science.


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      And even though a public consultation indicated support for de-silting work, the quango said it would be ‘environmentally unacceptable’ due to the ‘high impact on aquatic species’…

      If it goes on like this Britain will be developing new aquatic species in the residents of :-

      Worst areas affected by weather:

      Herefordshire and Worcestershire Buckinghamshire
      Somerset levels Oxford
      Reading Bristol
      Weymouth Bournemouth
      Surrey Aberystwyth
      Berkshire Hampshire
      Suffolk Essex
      Hertfordshire South Cornwall
      South Devon Liverpool
      Porthcawl, Wales


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    pat

    lucky David Rose is still at work:

    9 Feb: UK Daily Mail: David Rose: Agency for flooding that puts greater water parsnips and voles before local people
    A 250-page Environment Agency document on flood risk has emerged
    It shows the agency deliberately increased flooding in wost affected areas
    Paper says from an environmental point of view flooding is not a bad thing
    Document argues flooding in some areas would be beneficial to wildlife
    Director of operations David Jordan called flood defences a ‘success story’
    The Environment Agency put water voles, greater water parsnips, silver diving beetles and large marsh grasshoppers ahead of people in the flood-ravaged Somerset Levels, The Mail on Sunday can reveal.
    A 250-page agency document issued in 2008 shows that years of neglecting vital dredging which used to let water drain away much faster is part of a deliberate policy to increase flooding in the areas now worst affected.
    The policy was revealed as agency director of operations David Jordan angered residents yesterday by calling the flood defences a ‘success story’…
    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2554940/Agency-flooding-puts-greater-water-parsnips-voles-local-people.html

    will anyone involved in this scam ever be prosecuted?

    it will be interesting to see where Delingpole pops up next.


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      Listen, I fully understand how emotive the cooked birds are, and how this goes completely against environmentalism, but by far the most important thing is that these plants just fail to deliver electrical power.

      Look at this.

      The plant has a Nameplate Capacity of 392MW, and even now, is still only half constructed, running at only one third of that proposed Nameplate, and hey, doesn’t that indicate something to you. It does to me, but you see, 99% of the lemmings general public have no concept of what is actually being done here.

      These types of power plant, concentrating solar power (CSP) use mirrors focused to a central point, where there is a compound. The heat then makes that compound molten. This molten compound then boils water to steam to drive a turbine, which then drives the generator.

      Now, because the compound can only make so much steam, then all that can be used is a small turbine, and because of that, a small generator, and most plants operate a 50MW generator. Hopefully, soon, they think they may be able to drive a turbine capable of driving a single 250MW generator, still probably 5 to ten years away, if they can ever attain that. (and compare that to existing old tech coal fired power, 660MW generator, new tech coal fired power 1300MW, and big nukes from 900 to 1200MW generators) Currently CSP plants drive a 50 MW generator.

      So, here at this yet to be completed Ivanpah plant, we have around 126MW (Nameplate) and that’s one of the new Siemens turbines capable of driving a single 126MW generator, and the rest will be added later to take it up to 392MW (Nameplate)

      This plant has ….. NO ….. heat diversion, so the plant only delivers power during daylight hours.

      So, the hoped for theoretical power actually being delivered upon completion.

      1,079,232MWH, and hey, that sounds like an astronomical amount of power.

      That power gives this plant a Capacity Factor of, hey, wait for it ….. 31%, around the same as for Wind Power, and again, there’s no way known this plant can even be considered to supply power to cover an absolute Base Load requirement.

      So, at that 31% (still theoretical mind you) that means this plant will deliver the equivalent of it’s full rated power (on average) for 31% of the year, and while more in Summer than Winter, that average 31% on a daily basis equates to 7.44 hours. Conversely, it’s also the equivalent of what could be delivered from a (31% remember) 121MW generator.

      And all this for only $2.2 Billion, which includes a $1.6 Billion loan guarantee from the U.S. Government’s Department of Energy, and again, please don’t tell me that they’ll get cheaper as you build more of them.

      I know that people will want to concentrate on the poor cooked birds, because that has an emotional aspect attached to it, but these plants should be remorselessly criticised for their absolute failure to do what they claim ….. to be able to take the place of coal fired power, something they patently cannot do, and can never be made to do, not because of the wish of me the blogger, but because of simple engineering, something that the public is not being told.

      Tony.

      Post Script. What do you get for your $2.2 Billion? You get power delivered over A FULL YEAR that is the equivalent of what is already being delivered by Bayswater in ….. umm, 23 days. Hey, I’m impressed! (/sarc)


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        Incidentally, just on this point here, where I say this:

        Hopefully, soon, they think they may be able to drive a turbine capable of driving a single 250MW generator, still probably 5 to ten years away, if they can ever attain that.

        In March of 2008, six years ago now, I started the Series that got me going on this. The intent was this.

        Let’s actually pretend for a minute that I actually believed that CO2 was the problem it was being made out to be.

        Then, what was required was the replacement of (large scale, 2000MW+) coal fired power plants. So, effectively that meant finding renewable power plants which could generate huge amounts of power and do that on a 24/7/365 basis.

        That prospect (even in just 2008) was still in the formative stages and the great white hope was that it could actually be achieved with Concentrating Solar Power (CSP, or Solar Thermal Power)

        Luckily, my background in the electrical trade enabled me to understand what I was actually reading, and the more I looked, the more problematic it (all of it) became.

        It was difficult at times to write Posts explaining the methods of electrical power generation, because I knew no-one would believe a word of it, and that of itself made me a little worried, because it seemed I was Robinson Crusoe, because the only opinions around were all (and here I mean ALL) in favour of renewable power and all stated, virtually categorically, that this could be achieved. I researched, and visited so many sites I was becoming a little bewildered myself, and I had a general idea of what they were actually all about.

        However, one (of so many) site on CSP I did visit said that CSP would indeed be the way of the future. At the time, they were barely managing to run a 50MW generator without heat diversion, and even then for barely 4 hours a day at best in Mid Summer even. However, they were confident (in 2008) that within five years they would be able to run a 250MW generator, and using heat diversion, so that it would be generating power for the full 24 hour period, and that this WOULD be achieved within five years, which meant 2013, and that as soon as three to five years after that, a single generator of 500MW, and that meant as early as 2016.

        As has now transpired, the best that can be achieved is in fact barely 125MW, and only on that limited five or so hours a day basis, because as soon as they attempt to use heat diversion that 125MW generator does not even begin to turn over.

        So far, all that has been managed, using heat diversion is 20MW, and feasibly, they might be able to do it with a 50MW generator in perhaps a year or two.

        But 250MW and 500MW, well, they still cannot even manage to turn one of them over, let alone do it 3000RPM or 3600RPM ….. because they cannot make enough steam to turn over a turbine capable of driving a generator of that output.

        So, larger plants have series of 50MW generators operating as they come on line, and in fact, in nearly every case, they use a natural gas fired turbine as start up to get the turbine/generator unit operating and then the steam takes over, if it can.

        They are still 5 to 10 years away from achieving 250MW let alone 500MW ….. because of ENGINEERING.

        Wishing does not make it so.

        CSP, on a World wide basis, is currently managing around that 30 to 32% Capacity Factor, the same as for Wind Power.

        The only way they can make these types of plant palatable to the general populace is by using Spin, and never actually explaining the process to people in a correct manner, not that most of them would understand it anyway.

        All you see is Nameplate Capacity, homes supplied, and CO2 saved.

        People will believe what they want to believe.

        Tony.


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          Tony , I worked for NZ Electricity in late 70s, oil embargo panic days, wind, solar the new saviours.
          Saner minds held the engineering sections then.
          But the hive mind was full of great schemes to go renewable.
          Luckily for NZ the engineering side was able to get the obvious across.Hydroelectric is renewable.
          Other two not adequate for task.

          Now 30 + years on, same hysteria same engineering realities, different types of people manning the bureaus.
          Yes minister comes to mind.
          Hell in some parts(North America) they dismiss hydro as renewable energy.
          As for base load, these minions think you mean base note, is there an app for that?
          For the future of wind, look to the south tip of Hawaii Hawaii.(Big Island)
          For solar? I suspect the panels will make stylish cladding for squatters shacks.


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        diogenese2

        The best part of the report is the claim “it will light up 146,000 homes”. When do homes need lighting up? Hint – when the sun isn’t shining>
        Oh the irony!


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      Roy Hogue

      One more reason to hate them. :-(


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    Neville

    It seems that clueless Green power either minces the birds or cooks them.

    http://wattsupwiththat.com/2014/02/13/the-2-2-billion-bird-scorching-solar-project-at-californias-ivanpah-plant/#more-103171

    What an insane waste of billions $ to produce unreliable, super expensive and wild life destroying electricity. And ZIP change to climate and temp by 2100. Why not invest in new SAFE thorium reactors instead?


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      Truthseeker

      Neville,

      So if you had a Wind Power Plant with a number of turbines and this Solar Power Plant with the heat-ray of death working together you could have something that would chop and cook passing birds. Sounds like a fast food winner to me.


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      Turns out some of these green ideas are really, really bad in a drought: http://www.technologyreview.com/news/523856/solar-thermal-technology-poses-challenges-for-drought-stricken-california/

      Most news articles say solar is going to be the way of the future–and in a move destined to clear even more out of California, the city of Lancaster has mandated all homes be “net-zero energy” by 2020. This should raise the cost of homes right out of the general purchasing public’s ranges. They want industry to follow in another decade. One suspects the population of Lancaster will be smaller and completely without industry by 2030. (Unless, of course, through “creative accounting” employed by car companies and others, they manage to keep a power line still coming in while fudge-factoring out any use of it. Remember, NO house is “net-zero energy” if there is a power line leading into the home.)

      I’m curious what acres and acres of HOT panels in an already hot state does to extending the drought? Wind turbines can warm the areas below them, simply by stirring up the air. How much heat is emitted by these panels. I know it’s more than what the ground emitted because I haven’t read of birds getting cooked sitting on ground lately. Anyone know?


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        Roy Hogue

        Stupidity is eventually a fatal disease. This will, as you point out, backfire on Lancaster. Residents who can will leave. Residents who can’t will vote down the fools in charge. The only open question is how long it will take and how far it will spread before the fall.

        Come to think of it, stupid isn’t a strong enough word for it. Mentally unbalanced maybe? Or how about lobotomized?


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    Tim

    I was a constant follower of James Delingpole. I admired his courageous lone stand on so many issues the MSM ignored because of their unconscionable political bias. His recent uncovering of this major story took guts. I hope it didn’t take his job.

    http://jamesdelingpole.com/wordpress/wordpress/blog/how-the-blair-government-paid-for-the-subversion-of-our-state-broadcaster-2319/


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    Sean McHugh

    It might be harder for Delingpole to stay away, than he thinks.


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      scaper...

      Maybe he believes his job is done and resuming his life. When I had a chat with James awhile back in Brisbane, he struck me as more of a wit than his writings.

      Gee Sean, you have quite a collection of autographed books now. When this scam is all over a re-read would be an appreciation of the struggle of the movement against the warmists.

      It brings me to the question, what are us people going to do after the scam is smashed? It is my belief that the question bears serious consideration.

      Me? Might try to rebuild my modest wealth as the journey has basically cost everything that was accrued through toil. Might not, as never been much of a capitalist and getting a bit long in the tooth to recover.

      Such is life.


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        scaper, I so promise you that ‘when the scam is smashed’ it’ll have morphed inconveniently into the next project. The fight for freedom it would seem, is never done. There are always those that would use it to further their own agendas. For my money, I suggest there will be a creeping growth of influence from the Big Government Public Health activists, the epidemiologists, who having peddled their wares against Big Tobacco will line up against Big Fat, Big Sugar, Big Alcohol, Big Cars et al. Their mission to save us from ourselves is never ended. Strangely, they will not take up the cudgel against Big Weed, the current flavour de jour.

        I have always maintained that when humanity gazes into its umbilicus, it is lost. Others better known than I have suggested that the abyss gazes back. It’s time to get a project bigger than ourselves. If we don’t, we’re more in trouble than at present. And I don’t mean a war; we’re in the throes of that now. I mean a damn big project…like Mars.


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    Probably means the Ricochet podcast – always a highlight – is over, too. On the current one Dellers mentions he was having financial issues, so this is actually good news. I’m sure he’ll be back one way or another.


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    The battle goes on.

    Is recycling good or bad for the environment?

    THE world’s largest listed metals recycler, Sims Metal Management, says its performance for the rest of the financial year will depend partly on how it reacts to a severe cold snap in the United States.”

    Severe winter weather in North America, Sims’ largest scrap sourcing market, had restricted the ability to collect and process scrap at normal levels.

    “Our ability to react as temperatures warm and scrap metal availability loosens will be a key determining factor for success in (the second half of the financial year),” Sims said.
    . . .

    Maybe they should recycle less so they can recycle more?


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    Big sad face at this news :(

    But eternal happiness gained from being *truly* enlightened by James Delingpole, who cuts through the political madness that so drives AGW and other topics he explores.

    Even with his bold ego (so infuriating to his critics), Delingpole never talks down to you, never insults your intelligence. He allows you to have a viewpoint for yourself, based on first-rate evidence provided. He respects others’ opinion in a free-speech world. He is a vicious defender of free-speech. He doesn’t ram ideology into you. He lets you question ideology and the meaning behind it. He therefore opens up your own intellect and powers of scepticism (which we all must must employ).

    Such masterful and powerful communicatory talent. A talent so devoid from the “This is what is right for you because i said so” teachings of the left.

    I implore anyone who hasn’t read “Watermelons” to do so. It is by far the most important book I have and probably will ever read.

    Thanks James, you’re a champion and good luck with your future endeavours. And I shall now purchase your new book ‘The Little Green Book of Eco-Fascism’

    Cheers James and nice tribute Jo,
    Jamie


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    There is a certain UK political party that he may enjoy working with.


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    14 Feb: SMH: Peter Hannam: Intense marine heatwaves destroy 400-year-old reefs off WA’s Pilbara coast
    “Probably half the total area there has seen quite severe bleaching of some or all of the corals over the past couple of years,” said Russ Babcock, CSIRO’s lead scientist for the joint survey with the University of Western Australia…
    The bleached coral discoveries came as the CSIRO and the UWA began research on the region as part of a $12 million, five-year survey project partly funded by environmental offsets from Chevron’s $60 billion Gorgon Liquefied Natural Gas project…
    http://www.smh.com.au/environment/climate-change/intense-marine-heatwaves-destroy-400yearold-reefs-off-was-pilbara-coast-20140213-32n40.html

    UWA following in a fine tradition, benefitting from Big Oil:

    2002: NYT: Andrew C. Revkin: Exxon-Led Group Is Giving A Climate Grant to
    Stanford
    Four big international companies, including the oil giant Exxon Mobil, said
    yesterday that they would give Stanford University $225 million over 10
    years for research on ways to meet growing energy needs without worsening
    global warming.
    Exxon Mobil, whose pledge of $100 million makes it the biggest of the four
    contributors, issued a statement saying new techniques for producing energy
    while reducing emissions of heat-trapping greenhouse gases were ”vital to
    meeting energy needs in the industrialized and developing world.”…
    With the new corporate money, Stanford will create the Global Climate and
    Energy Project, an independent research group controlled by the university.
    Any resulting technologies or patents will belong to the university,
    Stanford officials said…
    In addition to Exxon Mobil, the contributors are General Electric, which
    said it would give $50 million; E.ON, a large German energy company with
    nuclear and conventional power plants, giving $50 million; and Schlumberger,
    the oil-field technology company, giving $25 million…
    The money for climate research is ”only one-tenth of 1 percent of what
    Exxon Mobil will spend over the same time exploring and developing new
    sources of oil and gas,” said ***Pete Altman, the coordinator of a
    shareholder group pressing to change the company’s environmental practices.
    That development, Mr. Altman said, ”is what is causing global warming in
    the first place.”
    http://www.nytimes.com/2002/11/21/us/exxon-led-group-is-giving-a-climate-grant-to-stanford.html

    ***wonder where Pete Altman ended up?

    LinkedIn: Peter Altman
    Climate Campaign Director NRDC
    Nonprofit; 201-500 employees; Environmental Services industry
    December 2007 – Present (6 years 3 months) …
    Past Experience:
    Executive Director Texas Fund for Energy and Environmental Education
    March 1996 – August 2003 (7 years 6 months)
    Projects included:
    Campaign ExxonMobil, a shareholder campaign and coalition of faith, investor
    and environmental groups to change the company’s position on global
    warming…
    http://www.linkedin.com/in/peteraltman

    notice Revkin didn’t bother to mention who Altman worked for back then.


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    and it’s only part 1! ABC can’t bear to say Chevron!

    13 Feb: ABC: Coral reef off Pilbara coast in Western Australia decimated by marine heatwave, scientists say
    The results from the first part of a five-year, $12 million study of the coastline are due to be released today…
    Western Australian Environment Minister Albert Jacob says the bleaching is a concern, but that much of it appeared to be a response to a recent La Nina event.
    “It’s a very good example, I think, of where this research project will be of great assistance,” he said…
    The funding for the study came from the Gorgon development, which is required to contribute $60 million over 30 years for conservation projects across WA…
    http://www.abc.net.au/news/2014-02-13/ancient-coral-off-wa-coast-decimated-by-marine-heatwave/5255804


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    o/t but very important:

    12 Feb: Reuters: Huw Jones: Exclusive: EU executive sees personal savings
    used to plug long-term financing gap
    The savings of the European Union’s 500 million citizens could be used to
    fund long-term investments to boost the economy and help plug the gap left
    by banks since the financial crisis, an EU document says.
    The EU is looking for ways to wean the 28-country bloc from its heavy
    reliance on bank financing and find other means of funding small companies,
    infrastructure projects and other investment…
    The Commission will ask the bloc’s insurance watchdog in the second half of
    this year for advice on a possible draft law “to mobilize more personal
    pension savings for long-term financing”, the document said…
    It is also seeking to revive the securitization market, which pools loans
    like mortgages into bonds that banks can sell to raise funding for
    themselves or companies. The market was tarnished by the financial crisis
    when bonds linked to U.S. home loans began defaulting in 2007, sparking the
    broader global markets meltdown over the ensuing two years…
    More controversially, the Commission will consider whether the use of fair
    value or pricing assets at the going rate in a new globally agreed
    accounting rule “is appropriate, in particular regarding long-term investing
    business models”.
    http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/02/12/us-eu-banks-savings-idUSBREA1B1ZI20140212

    5 pages: 12 Feb: Rolling Stone: Matt Taibbi: The Vampire Squid Strikes
    Again: The Mega Banks’ Most Devious Scam Yet
    Today, banks like Morgan Stanley, JPMorgan Chase and Goldman Sachs own oil
    tankers, run airports and control huge quantities of coal, natural gas,
    heating oil, electric power and precious metals. They likewise can now be
    found exerting direct control over the supply of a whole galaxy of raw
    materials crucial to world industry and to society in general, including
    everything from food products to metals like zinc, copper, tin, nickel and,
    most infamously thanks to a recent high-profile scandal, aluminum… And
    they’re doing it not just here but abroad as well: In Denmark, thousands
    took to the streets in protest in recent weeks, vampire-squid banners in
    hand, when news came out that Goldman Sachs was about to buy a 19 percent
    stake in Dong Energy, a national electric provider. The furor inspired mass
    resignations of ministers from the government’s ruling coalition, as the
    Danish public wondered how an American investment bank could possibly hold
    so much influence over the state energy grid.
    There are more eclectic interests, too…
    But banks aren’t just buying stuff, they’re buying whole industrial
    processes. They’re buying oil that’s still in the ground, the tankers that
    move it across the sea, the refineries that turn it into fuel, and the
    pipelines that bring it to your home. Then, just for kicks, they’re also
    betting on the timing and efficiency of these same industrial processes in
    the financial markets – buying and selling oil stocks on the stock exchange,
    oil futures on the futures market, swaps on the swaps market, etc.
    Allowing one company to control the supply of crucial physical commodities,
    and also trade in the financial products that might be related to those
    markets, is an open invitation to commit mass manipulation. It’s something
    akin to letting casino owners who take book on NFL games during the week
    also coach all the teams on Sundays….
    In just the past few years we’ve seen an explosion of scandals – from the
    multitrillion-dollar Libor saga (major international banks gaming world
    interest rates), to the more recent foreign-currency-exchange fiasco (many
    of the same banks suspected of rigging prices in the $5.3-trillion-a-day
    currency markets), to lesser scandals involving manipulation of
    interest-rate swaps, and gold and silver prices.
    But those are purely financial schemes. In these new, even scarier kinds of
    manipulations, banks that own whole chains of physical business interests
    have been caught rigging prices in those industries…
    Long before Goldman and Chase started buying up metals warehouses, for
    instance, Morgan Stanley had already bought up a substantial empire of
    physical businesses – electricity plants in a number of states, a firm that
    trades in heating oil, jet fuels, fertilizers, asphalt, chemicals, pipelines
    and a global operator of oil tankers…
    http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/news/the-vampire-squid-strikes-again-the-mega-banks-most-devious-scam-yet-20140212

    8 Feb: Bloomberg: Bank of England Staff Said to Have Condoned Currency
    Traders’ Conduct
    Bank of England officials told currency traders it wasn’t improper to share
    impending customer orders with counterparts at other firms, a practice at
    the heart of a widening probe into alleged market manipulation, according to
    a person who has seen notes turned over to regulators…
    Two traders at the meetings Citibank’s Rohan Ramchandani and UBS’s Niall O’Riordan
    — are among at least 20 employees of global banks who have been fired,
    suspended or put on leave since Bloomberg News first reported in June that
    dealers said they shared information about client orders to manipulate
    benchmark rates used in the $5 trillion-a-day currency market, the world’s
    biggest…
    http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2014-02-07/boe-staff-said-to-have-condoned-currency-traders-conduct.html

    12 Feb: UK Evening Standard: Forex scandal widens as Bank of England
    launches probe
    The Bank of England has launched a “full legal review” into claims that its
    officials gave tacit approval to collusion among foreign-exchange traders,
    now part of a major international investigation.
    Deputy governor Andrew Bailey told MPs on the Treasury Select Committee that
    the review was being carried out by ***in-house lawyers “supported by outside
    counsel”…
    Questions over the mounting foreign-exchange trading scandal that involves
    regulators in Switzerland and the US as well as Britain, were tabled by MPs
    before what was the final session of the committee’s inquiry into the near
    collapse of Co-operative Bank…
    http://www.standard.co.uk/business/business-news/forex-scandal-widens-as-bank-of-england-launches-probe-9122903.html


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    just how insane are these people?

    VIDEO: 13 Feb: Democracy Now: Meteorologist Jeff Masters: Climate Change Affecting Weather Patterns Regardless of Season
    TRANSCRIPT:
    AMY GOODMAN: You’ve written that if Philadelphia International Airport receives six inches or more of snow from this system, it would be the first time since record keeping began during the winter of 1884 to ’85 that Philadelphia has had four separate six-inch or greater snowstorms in the winter. Talk about what the trend—and can you relate—you know, so often the climate change deniers mock anyone who connects this kind of freezing weather with global warming. But what kind of links would you make?
    JEFF MASTERS: Yeah, we have to understand that climate change is affecting all weather patterns, regardless of the season. Yes, winter still occurs. But we do expect climate change to affect jet stream patterns in winter storms. Now, in particular, this kind of very unusual jet stream pattern that’s been so persistent is something that could arise out of climate change. We don’t often see the jet stream lock into place like this and not budge for a period of months. And we make that more likely—is one research avenue being explored now—if we remove a lot of sea ice in the Arctic, warming up the Arctic more than the rest of the planet. That can have impacts on the jet stream, causing it to slow down and to not move quite as quickly, and lock in place for these extended periods like we’ve seen.
    AMY GOODMAN: Well, Jeff, we want to thank you for being with us, director of meteorology at Weather Underground. When we come back from break, we’re going to go to Vermont, another place that is going to see a lot of snow, to Middlebury, Vermont, to speak with Bill McKibben, director of 350.org, author of Oil and Honey. And then we head to North Carolina, which has seen the greatest coal ash spill, one of the largest in history.
    http://www.democracynow.org/2014/2/13/meteorologist_jeff_masters_climate_change_affecting

    VIDEO: 13 Feb: Democracy Now: “This Should Not Come as a Surprise”: Bill McKibben on Global Extreme Weather from U.S. to Sochi
    TRANSCRIPT:
    (SONG PLAYS) AMY GOODMAN: “Do It Now: Sing for the Climate,” recorded in August of 2012 by Flemish musicians as part of the Big Ask campaign, a grassroots movement to get industrialized countries to reduce carbon emissions every year. This is Democracy Now!…
    AMY GOODMAN: Joining us now is 350.org co-founder Bill McKibben. He’s joining us from his home in Middlebury, Vermont. His latest book is Oil and Honey: The Education of an Unlikely Activist . You can go to democracynow.org to read the first chapter…
    Bill, start off by just talking about this extreme weather that both the East Coast is facing with this massive ice storm called Pax, yet the West Coast experiencing a drought like they haven’t seen in some 500 years.
    BILL McKIBBEN: Yes, and, of course, the continental U.S. is only about one-and-a-half percent of the surface of the planet. Jeff Masters and his great colleague Christopher Burt at the Weather Underground have done a remarkable job of chronicling what’s going on all over the world. And what happens now is pretty much every day, someplace on this planet, we are breaking records that have stood for centuries, or in the case of California now, we think perhaps millennia…
    The situation in the U.K. is really unbelievable…
    This is the kind of crazy weather that scientists have said will mark the advent of climate change in its early stages. And it should be the warning that we need to actually do something, though so far our leaders haven’t taken up that challenge…
    BILL McKIBBEN: None of this should come as a surprise if people have been paying attention. It’s exactly what climate scientists and climate campaigners have been saying now for the better part of two decades. I mean, I wrote the first book about this for a general audience literally 25 years ago. And these are exactly the sort of things scientists said would happen. They’re happening somewhat more quickly and on a somewhat larger scale, mostly because scientists are, by their nature, conservative and underpredict. But the fear of scientists is palpable. That’s why so many of them are out there getting arrested to stop things like the Keystone pipeline, speaking out in all the ways that they can think of…
    If the scientists are correct—and so far they’ve been, as I say, underestimating—then before this century is out, that will be closer to seven or eight degrees Fahrenheit. And every computer model we have shows that the planet then just becomes the scene of ongoing emergency response effort. That’s what civilization will amount to…
    BILL McKIBBEN: This is an existential problem for winter athletes. You know, I’ve been, for many years, the faculty adviser to the Nordic ski team here at Middlebury College. And, you know, there are young people that I watched come up who are skiing over there in Sochi. The reports are unbelievable…
    http://www.democracynow.org/2014/2/13/this_should_not_come_as_a


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      If the scientists are correct—and so far they’ve been, as I say, underestimating—then before this century is out, that will be closer to seven or eight degrees Fahrenheit. And every computer model we have shows that the planet then just becomes the scene of ongoing emergency response effort. That’s what civilization will amount to…

      Can someone save this for the next time a warmist troll comes here and says that nobody is talking alarmism?

      Radical frigging nutjobs……..


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    much, much more at the link:

    much, much more at the link:

    VIDEO: 13 Feb: Democracy Now: Bill McKibben on Fight Against Keystone XL, Fossil Fuel Divestment and Obama’s Failures on Climate
    Hundreds of college students are expected to risk arrest on March 2 outside the White House to pressure President Obama to reject the Keystone XL tar sands oil pipeline project…
    McKibben describes how the effort to confront global warming is growing worldwide. “The one place where we’ve really been able to go on the offense is this divestment movement. It has now spread around the world. Oxford University published a study in October saying it was the fastest-growing such corporate campaign in history. Universities, colleges, churches, city and state governments, pension funds — all now starting with an exhilarating pace to cut their ties with fossil fuel industries. It is one place where there is some real hope.”…
    McKIBBEN: For progressives, there’s one other not-so-small thing. There was a study last year showing that the Koch brothers might make as much as $100 billion in profit off this pipeline over its 40-year lifespan, $100 billion, even for the Koch brothers a lot of money. And one doesn’t have to guess very widely what some of that money—what political use it will be put to in this country…
    CINDY SCHILD (a senior manager of the American Petroleum Institute’s refining and oil sands program): I mean, first of all, you know, we had the debate about whether it’s oil sands or tar sands, and quite simply, we’re producing oil and oil and gas products. We are not—there’s no tar being produced here, so that’s just a terminology depending what side of the fence you sit on…
    BILL McKIBBEN: Well, I don’t know. Geologists always called it tar sands…
    BILL McKIBBEN: Well, it’s a big challenge. 350.org is, I guess, the only group really that works only on the climate crisis around the world. And we work in pretty much every country except North Korea…
    We can’t bankrupt Exxon, but we can begin to politically bankrupt them. And we have to. We can no longer solve this problem one light bulb at a time…
    http://www.democracynow.org/2014/2/13/bill_mckibben_on_fight_against_keystone


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      McKibben was fully aware from day one that “one light bulb at time” would NEVER work. It was a lie told to stupid people who did not understand math in the hopes of gaining little cult members to recite the green mantra. Anyone who could do 3rd grade math knew full well it was a lie. I’ve been “chastised” by trolls for saying the greens want us back to the hunter/gatherer level of life–even SkS tries to lie about what would really be needed. Maybe if people actually understood math, this wouldn’t be so easy. Of course if they did understand, McKibben would be dumpster diving for lunch instead of jetting around the world complaining about CO2 and how bad it is.


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    Turtle of WA

    Jo, don’t forget his latest book, The Little Green Book of Eco-Fascism. It’s a great light read, in a glossary style – the A-Z of Delingpole.


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    Owen Morgan

    James Delingpole is a classic “wish-I-had-said-that” writer. He really has an eye, or an ear, for a phrase. I wish I could say that he is leaving the battlefield in the moment of victory, but the Daily Telegraph seems to have replaced Louise Gray with some character who is even more unfeasibly gullible and the paper still employs Geoffrey Lean, while Ed Davey and Chris Smith both remain, to borrow a metaphor from Baroness Young, like limpet mines, in their places, ready to do their worst. I wish James Delingpole the very best. He has fought heroically against the Newspeak crowd, ever since Climategate, and he is a writer of great talent.


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    Google notes that “this site may have been hacked” when you google James’ name.


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    Missing the h from brietbart.com hyperlink.

    ttp://blogs.spectator.co.uk/coffeehouse/2014/02/delingpole-quites-telegraph-ahead-of-uk-launch-of-brietbart-com/?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=delingpole-quites-telegraph-ahead-of-uk-launch-of-brietbart-com&utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter

    http://blogs.spectator.co.uk/coffeehouse/2014/02/delingpole-quites-telegraph-ahead-of-uk-launch-of-brietbart-com/?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=delingpole-quites-telegraph-ahead-of-uk-launch-of-brietbart-com&utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter


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    clipe

    Spectator screws-up quit/quiet. I swear I’m going to “loose” my mind.
    Happens “alot” I know.


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    clipe “Gets To the Point Shocker” – Ooops, no – he never does.


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      I was referring to the link in the main article for Brietbart.com

      “UPDATE #3: Could be Dellers had an offer from Brietbart.com which is setting up a branch in the UK? Thanks to Janet and Peter for the tip.”

      Which gets you

      “The address wasn’t understood

      Firefox doesn’t know how to open this address, because the protocol (ttp) isn’t associated with any program.”

      Also, in the URL, “delingpole-quites-telegraph”

      Quite how you quite something is beyond me.

      Luckily for you my mother was a Morgan


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    I’m sorry but I don’t get it? Why is James Delingpole leaving and where is he going? It just seems to me he’s jumping ship for something more lucrative and perhaps rewarding?


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    Did James go, or was he pushed?

    Eco-sophistry is not a mere sideshow, it is at the very centre of the NWO/cultural-marxist/EUSSR/world government/LibLabCON nexus. JD has been hugely influential as the nemesis of that nexus, possibly more influential than even he realises. James has employed entertaining and constantly original journalistic flair to drive a coach and horses through the faux environmental claptrap and the imposition of economically suicidal (his words) barking mad renewable energy projects in the UK. On top of that he has been a constant highly visible libertarian presence in a country where personal freedom is under the cosh more than ever before.

    Just now the ecotards of the UK Environment Agency have succeeded in creating enormous confusion by flooding quite large areas of the country by purposely abandoning traditional water resource management practices at enormous cost to local communities. In doing so they have enabled AGW fanatics once again to bring climate change BS centre stage just when thinking people were increasingly seeing through it. We need the James’ of this world more than ever now to mount the counter attack and cut through the noise and bewilderment.

    Sadly there is no doubt that all this is a setback at the moment. JD has been successfully removed from a highly visible forum on the national stage. He has clearly been a thorn in the side of David Camoron’s not-the-Conservative Party and of a Daily Telegraph moving ever leftward into Graun territory under a new editor and sporting a bevy of lefty retards for journos who have no place in what was once a reasonably sensible right wing quality under Conrad Black. Lets hope he can rise above this apparent coup and resume his mission on a new stage.


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