If coal is a planet wrecking problem, if it really mattered, about 30 countries are beating themselves up in acts of grandiose public flagellation, while one country is wrecking the planet and nobody cares. The truth is that no one is behaving like they think CO2 is causing a crisis. All over the West everyone wears the hippie-care coat while buying the cheapest fridges, phones and fashion they can get from the global coal furnace. And China nods the nod then keeps on adding coal power plants.
Climate change: China at risk of missing its goals unless it takes drastic action to rein in coal expansion, new research finds
Eric Ng, South China Morning Post
Last year, the Chinese energy sector’s carbon dioxide emissions increased 5.2 per cent, the same as gross domestic product, highlighting a failure to rein in energy-intensive growth, they estimated.
According to the Global Coal Plant Tracker 70 gigawatts of new coal power was built around the world in 2023. Of the 107 countries they tracked, one country built 47 gigawatts. The other 106 countries combined built 22 gigawatts. The distribution of new coal plants is thus:
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Or put another way:
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And this pattern has been repeated for 23 years.
This is the combined total of coal power installed around the world since the turn of the century:
(Click to see the bigger graph)
So the rulers of the West buy their transformers, solar panels and wind turbines from The Coal Giant, while pretending they sincerely want to reduce coal use. And the populace buy their cheap t-shirts, lemon squeezers and avocado-slicers (and their fridges and freezers). And no one in polite society suggests sanctions or boycotts. (No one suggests “checking the science” either). Everyone wants their cheap stuff.
And so the charade continues, China pretends it will reduce emissions, and the West pretends it could happen:
“Another year of rapidly rising emissions in 2023 leaves China way off track against its target of cutting carbon intensity by 18 per cent between 2021 and 2025,” said Lauri Myllyvirta, lead analyst at the Centre for Research on Energy and Clean Air (CREA). “As a result, carbon dioxide emissions would now need to fall by 4 to 6 per cent by 2025 to hit the goal.”
And everyone pretends that it matters.
Really puts the hypocisy of our lying gummint out there for all the world to see!
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Everyone can see the hypocrisy of governments everywhere, all of the time.
We do not need any more proof of this (but every little bit helps)
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Also research UN Lima Agreement signed by Whitlam Labor in 1975 and UN Agenda 21 signed by Keating Labor in late 1980s.
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Why should China, a technologically advanced, rich country, be allowed to build two coal power stations per week while the West, and especially the most fanatical followers of UN/WEF decrees such as Australia, destroy their economies, energy supplies and societies because of such decrees?
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Because China isn’t as bad the West 😀
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Not as stupid, I’d say … remember ‘we’ don’t need to be doing this but our leaders choose to do so, why’s that ?
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Correct ! Thx, was on the wrong path.
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Wrong word KG. The word you were looking for is “mad”. China is smart but our governments are and have been stupid.
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I think the word you are looking for is evil . Those involved are were not stupid and knew exactly what they were doing .
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Size matters
Datang Tuoketuo power station is the largest operational coal power plant in China as of 2023, with a capacity of roughly 6.1 gigawatts. This power plant is owned by Datang International Power Generation Co, and is also the largest coal power plant in the world.
Australia’s largest coal fired power station is Eraring in NSW commissioned in 1982 – it has a power capacity of 2.88 gigawatts
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CO2 Lover,
Size of what exactly? The largest unit in Tuoketuo is 660 MW. The largest in Eraring is 720 MW.
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That’s not a steam turbine – this is a steam turbine
Arabelle has been the largest turbine in operation worldwide for the past 20 years and has two units in China which each produce up to 1,750 MW.
At a nuclear plant
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58% of China’s coal generation is coal. In Australia, it is 60%. Why isn’t Australia doing more?
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How do you “generate” coal? Does it beat mining it?
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I cannot imagine any reason why Australia is not doing more coal.
Other than ignorance and politics which usually go hand in hand.
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“Why should China… be allowed”
Because China is much better for wealthy elites. It has totalitarian dictatorship and virtual slave labour or worse, whereas the West has a thousand year long embedded history of fighting to acheive individual sovereignty, property ownership, human rights, freedom of expression and assembly, decent standard of living, and a fair day’s pay for a fair day’s work. So cumbersome. It must be destroyed.
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And pronouns! Don’t forget the pronouns!
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Because China and other countries are officially developing nations according to the United Nations, so they must be assisted to grow their economies and we all know that means reliable and cheap electricity supply.
sarc.
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We are ‘allowed’ to do it too. But we have decided not to.
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I feel sorry for you Dave asking such a silly a question.
The implied answer to your question that they (China) should NOT be allowed to build 2 power stations per week is self evident. And whyever not?
Indeed do we in here Australia do as China wants?
Answer ; No and quite rightly so . .
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He didn’t ask the question in a “literal” sense (obviously). He pointing at hypocrisy.
Those who say they care about CO2 barely lift a finger to boycott, punish or even say un-nice things about the Greatest Coal Polluter of Earth. Do they care about coal, or are they faking it? Perhaps they are paid off by China to whip up anti coal sentiment in the West and deflect attention from the rampant coal use of the CCP?
If I were a communist dictator trying to weaken the West that’s what I’d do. 😉
We know you like China and communism but you don’t have any answer to the question — why does the West ignore China’s coal use?
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David … every country is allowed to do that.
We are our own enemy, don’t go looking at the other guy somewhere else.
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Tel’s got it right. Who’s going to stop them?
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Surprise!
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Since Western manufacturing has been relocated from Western countries to China, it would be interesting to know how the closure of coal, gas, nuclear and hydro plants in the West corresponds to the building of such plant in China.
In other words, the practical forms of energy production have just been transferred from the West to China leaving the West with fanciful and useless wind and solar plantations, good only for subsistence living such as one or two lights and an Internet connected appliance to receive government propaganda.
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A sign of the times
Volkswagen wants low costs to make sure its electric cars can be priced competitively. So it plans to start production in Hefei in the coming weeks of its new Tavascan sport utility vehicle for sale in China and export to Europe.30 Dec 2023
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I guess VW will also be transferring much of its intellectual property to China.
In addition, notice the focus on “fully connected vehicles”. Part of that functionality is to enable even more government tracing, tracking and control of our lives, including, no doubt, the ability to lock you in the car and deliver you to a re-education or punishment facility if you commit any crimes of free thought.
The Left drool at this stuff.
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Then maybe we shouldn’t buy Volkswagen cars.
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morning all, where do I find the total of Australia’s current coal generating capacity? Thanks in advance
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Google:
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If you trust Wikipedia, this page lists Aus coal powered generators and their capacities.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_coal-fired_power_stations_in_Australia
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Here is a list of current operational coal fired power stations – their capacities and when they are due to close
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_coal-fired_power_stations_in_Australia
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Annual electrical energy produced from Coal in 2022 was 130.9 Terrawatt-hours or 48% of total production of 273.6 Terrawatt-hours
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Tony,
back in July of 2017, I compiles a list of coal fired power plants here in Australia.
That list is at the Post of mine at this link.
Base Load Electrical Power – Introduction And The Permanent Link To The Data For Australia
Those plants are listed on a State by State basis about half way down the Post, and this list also indicates the number of Units at each plant, and the Plant’s total Nameplate.
The only change is that the Liddell plant in NSW is now closed.
As an example the total Nameplate for these plants (now minus Liddell) is 21,000MW.
The total Nameplate for the two Renewables of choice (Industrial Wind and Solar Power Plants) is 21,642MW, so a little more than ALL of those coal fired plants.
In the year just finished, (2023) the total energy delivered to the main AEMO grid from both of those renewable sources was 42,267GWH. (42TWH)
In that same year, the total energy delivered to the same grid from these coal fired power plants was 118,143GWH, (118TWH) and that was ….. 2.8 TIMES MORE than both renewables.
Tony.
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thanks very much Tony, that’s just what I needed. I regularly post this blog to my Facebook page, to make sure that my friends and relatives are kept in the loop as to what’s really happening. This is the one figure I was missing. Much appreciated, and always appreciate and look forward to reading your contributions to the blog
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China only claims it will reduce its carbon intensity vs. GDP. So if they move up the value chain, like making silicon solar cells or electric vehicles, they grow their GDP faster as they emit more CO2. But they move up that value chain by taking business from the high-tech manufacturers in the west. Between 2020 and 2023 China’s emissions grew by 12%. Their GDP grew by 16%. It’s working as they said it would but much of their GDP growth has been at the expense of industries in the west.
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It’s curious, although not surprising, how the Left idolise the Chicomms (including some posters here).
-They ignore them being by far the world’s largest CO2 emitter, more than twice that of the next biggest emitter, the USA.
-They ignore them being one of the most racist societies on earth.
https://www.hrw.org/news/2021/02/18/covid-blackface-tv-chinas-racism-problem-runs-deep
-They ignore them colonising Africa, and the Chinese do little to build functional societies there, unlike European colonisers such as Once Great Britain once did.
https://intpolicydigest.org/china-and-neocolonialism-in-africa/
-They are committing genocide against the Uyghurs.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uyghur_genocide?wprov=sfla1
-They have cheap and reliable electricity, which the Left don’t want for the West.
-It is a totally controlled, monitored society with Social Credit scores dominating the lives of non-Elites. Actually, that’s what the Left want for us in the West.
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Australia’s destiny is to be Hong Kong MkII and Commmrade Andrews (aka Dictator Dan) signed up the People’s Republic of Victoriastan to China’s “Belt and Road” program.
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This year the population of India surpassed that of China
However, India’s per capita CO2 emissions are only a quarter of China’s
India will need to catch up
India scrambles to add coal-fired power capacity, avoid outages
https://www.reuters.com/world/india/india-scrambles-add-coal-fired-power-capacity-avoid-outages-sources-2023-11-29/#
India’s love of Australian coal is one that dare not speak its name
As the International Energy Agency concluded just a few months ago, “India’s coal consumption has doubled since 2007 at an annual growth rate of 6 per cent – and it is set to continue to be the growth engine of global coal demand.” India has more than 50 coal-fired power stations in construction or planning at the moment.
Over the next few decades, the World Bank predicts that almost 300 million Indians will move to cities. That will require more than 10 billion square metres of new housing. To build that, about 1 billion tonnes of steel will be required; more than 500 million tonnes of coking coal will be needed to make that steel.
Australia has the best coking coal in the world so we are in a unique position to help Indians improve their lives and move to a good house in a city. (On a side note, India has excellent resources of iron ore so our potential to expand iron ore exports to it is more limited.)
https://www.afr.com/policy/foreign-affairs/india-s-love-of-australian-coal-is-one-that-dare-not-speak-its-name-20230309-p5cqml
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Meanwhile.
“A group of 73 major companies from 17 sectors including chemicals, pharmaceuticals and engineering have launched the ‘Antwerp declaration’, calling on the EU to relax Net Zero regulations, lower energy costs and increase investment, while it still has some industry left.”
https://dailysceptic.org/2024/02/22/europe-faces-industrial-wipeout-from-net-zero-73-major-companies-warn/
We don’t need to relax the regulations, we need to STOP this crazy shit ASAP.
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“The Cheapest form of Electrishity”
According to our Minister for Power, Chrissy Bowen and his lackeys at the CSIRO “firmed variable renewables” are the cheapest form of electricity and so more Australian taxpayers dollars will be provided in subsidies to purchase more Chinese made solar panels, wind turbines and batteries.
If this is true, why haven’t the Chinese discovered the “truth”.
In George Orwell’s 1984, the protagonist encounters situations that show the government’s fear of the truth. Orwell once wrote that “in a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act.” Orwell uses the fear of truth to show that it is both consequential and valuable.
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Because they already know the truth.
Why would they be building two coal power stations per week if they were “dirty, expensive and unreliable” (sic) as the Left claim?
Wouldn’t they be going with the “cheapest and most reliable” (sic) form of electricity production, wind and solar plantations?
They are not stupid.
Of course, they know wind and solar is unworkable and unsustainable. They also know that the only reason it’s being promoted by the slave army of useful idiots of the Left is to 1) benefit the Chicomms and 2) destroy Western Civilisation.
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“firmed variable renewables”
An oxymoron uttered by morons
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It really is this simple. Suck on it ABC watchers.
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ABC watchers can’t suck on anything that isn’t in ABC propaganda in the first place.
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Yes, including me. Protectionism vs free trade has been a long argument. The colony of Victoria was protectionist, NSW free trade. But as a musician, I remember protectionism and the expense of musical and recording equipment which made it unattainable. I prefer the present.
People forget that to buy a camera you once had to wait for an Uncle to take a trip to Singapore for a much better price. This was common culture. They forget each family had only one car, including teenage children asking to borrow “the car”. I prefer being able to buy a fridge at no financial concern whatsoever, not having to save up.
So I’m all for free trade, including for agriculture, but there is a simple provision, that national security be maintained, so energy, certain industry, food, whatever it is, all maintained for matters of security.
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The once mighty IBM
It was Apple that kicked off the personal computer, however it was IBM that made it a must have for every business.
In 1984 IBM had three times the market share of Apple
The overall market leader in the global personal computer market in 2022 was Lenovo with a market share of 24.1 percent
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I used to work for IBM.
They bragged that they spent more on research,
than their nearest competitors sales.
(wasn’t really a brag, just a matter of fact….)
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Phillip, I’m all for free trade too — but only with countries that have acceptable human rights conditions and that are honest good citizen players.
If a nation, say, used slave labor and we have free trade with them, we cannot compete on any goods that use labor. Soon all our cheap fridges will be made by slaves. Are we OK with that?
If a nation, hypothetically, makes our antibiotics but lies to us about bioweapons that leak from their labs, telling us they are not spread human to human — do we really want to be dependent on them?
If we ask for the details of those dangerous lab experiments and the country destroys the records and aggressively cancels free trade in wine, lobster, beef, anything they can, are we really in a “free trade” agreement, or just making ourselves vulnerable?
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Jo, I agree with the thrust of your argument and I assume logically you also would not advocate free trade with the majority of western countries, such as the USA, UK and Israel, to mention three, that have appalling human rights records and other practices that you highlight ?
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Jo, didn’t the Chinese scrape some scum from a food market drain, twizzle in some Pangolin skin flakes, then spray the fetid mix into the air conditioning? All to Uncle Samuel’s specifications?
Or, p’raps I dreamt that up.
“There was a virus goin’ round.
Papa caught it, and he died last spring”.
So sang Bobby Gentry.
In 1967.
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China at risk of missing its emissions goals? Oh shock horror. Australia will no doubt help the struggling Chinese energy economy by reducing what’s left of our emissions. Quick, Super-Bowen, high priest in the order of Al Gore, to the rescue to make the tradies and farmers pay with even bigger carbon tax imposts.
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Over the last decade Australia Australia reduced its annual CO2 emissions by 5% {Applause} with electricity prices doubling
Meanwhile, China and India increased their CO2 emsiions by 118 times Ausralia’s reduction!
Has anyone informed our Minsiter for Power, Chrissy Bowen, of this reality?
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The answer is to count China’s CO2 emissions (NB. they are CO2 emissions, not ’emissions’) as our own when we import from China.
No answer is final, of course.
Then the answer is to recognise that CO2 emissions are about as irrelevant as you can get, and to stop measuring them, estimating them, imagining them, or worrying about them.
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So CO2 in the atmosphere is currently at around 0.04% , and we know that around 96% of that is from nature so that leaves humans responsible for just 4% of 0.04% .
Australia’s chief scientist admitted in senate estimates that Australia’s share of CO2 emissions was effectively zero and I believe at the moment China is responsible for roughly 30 times our effort but I have to ask the question is 30 times effectively zero really a significant number ?
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We’re “responsible for just 4% of 0.04%” – that’s CO2 or what some ****s call ‘deadly air pollution’, as Tristan Meyer, MOM and AI modeller for NIWA, refers to it?
Man-made “heat that is stuck in the atmosphere [is] heating up the oceans and it’s causing a lot of things to destabilise [especially alarmists’ brains] … in 10 years that heat will be normal”, via RNZ.
Where do you start with such nonsensical drivel that has failed year after year after decades. Tristan is a young American who gained a BSc from UNSW, then a Master Of Meteorology (MOM) from Victoria Uni in NZ, who now models AI [sic] ‘models’ for NIWA: a true & faithful follower of the gospel of James Renwick and Kevin Trenberth and other UN/WEF ****s.
Just don’t mention C h _ _ a.
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.4 of .04 … .016.?
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I’m a maths dunce I get .000016% as being 4% of 0.04% , doesn’t seem right though .
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Robert , that is a most important point that is deliberately forgotten by the carbon zealots .
They tell us repeatedly that Australia has 1% of ” emissions ” but that is misleading .
1% of the 4% of CO2 that enters the atmosphere each year means we are contributing 0.0004 of the total CO2 going into the atmosphere .
Put aside the argument that either CO2 is harmful to the weather or that a slight rise in temp would be bad ( neither is the case ) .
This slight increase in CO2 going into the atmosphere does not produce a linear increase in CO2 percentage in the atmosphere .
Don’t forget Henry’s gas law .
The higher you push the CO2 content in the atmosphere the faster it will be absorbed by the oceans which means it is a self governing system .
The temperature of the oceans has more influence on resident CO2 in the atmosphere than anything else .
Long term ocean temp is more affected by solar activity and our position relative to the sun than by anything else .
Someone mentioned that the readings in the new smaller Stevenson screens is 0.5 degrees C higher than the old larger Stevenson screens _ There’s ya glowbull warming !
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Thanks Another Delcon , and yes I keep hearing the 1% to 3% figures but for what it is it’s effectively zero .
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When China’s building of new coal fired generators gets mentioned to someone advocating “we need to close ours”, they usually respond with, “but they’ve also closed X number and the new coal plants just replace those”.
The global coal plant tracker linked by Jo shows total generating capacity retired by China as 122,727 MW. Total new capacity added 1,079,982 MW.
I don’t know what that means in terms of numbers of plants. But added capacity is 880% of retired capacity.
Closures don’t really feature in any meaningful way.
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What the Chinese know and any thinking person knows without being told, is that the weather hasn’t change significantly in their lifetime. And not much in 250 years, up or down. The idea that a very slow and small 50% increase in CO2 over 250 years is going to change suddenly change the weather seems completely outrageous. Which it is. Forget those hockey sticks. A change like 1.5C in a temperate zone average is only one side of the street to the other. A single day sees changes of 20C and winter to summer another 20C.
And if you knew that, you would do exactly what China was doing. Playing along and undercutting every manufacturing country by using ultra cheap coal energy. After all, no one else wants it. Use the superprofits to game everyone, build the world biggest army and navy and airforce and work on nuclear, missiles(space exploration) and bioweapons.
Meanwhile undermine every Western country with mass migration and Fentanyl, bribing every bent socialist and that’s all of them. What were the Biden family doing in China and Ukraine?
It’s all so obvious. A bit like Hitler’s build up in the 1930s, which Winston Churchill said was obvious, but was ignored until war broke out. And we Australians have already had a small taste of the games our biggest trading partner can play overnight if we dare to question their actions.
Meanwhile, the UK has announced it will stop making steel from raw materials, a watershed moment for the country which started the industrial revolution, all based on the invention and mastery of steel.
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Any change is in the direction that we don’t get nearly as many hot days as we used to.
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There is an implicit assumption in all this Climate guff that the weather should be the same one year to the next, one decade to the next, one century to the next and true in every location on the planet. That has never been the case.
And the upshot of that absurd proposition is that if anything changes, someone has done something. We only have to find it, blame someone and fix it. It’s all so childish in a world of enlightened rational science.
So people watch documentaries on dinosaurs, Krakatoa, mass extinctions, ice ages, moving continents, supervolcanoes, the world vanishing into the Red giant which used to be our sun. And they want to know who changed the weather? A bit.
And politicians now have a Climate Policy which determines all aspects of our lives from how we move to what we eat and how much we pay for electricity in a free market. I am almost past having a calm discussion about this madness.
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And my other point is that the War on the West by the West is very obvious. In a nuclear age it is exactly how a rival to American and Europe would achieve world domination, by undermining your enemies. Or better still, getting them to undermine themselves. And that’s going beautifully.
Yesterday Kentucky police found enough Fentanyl to kill two million people. And where does it start? The same country which gave us the Wuhan Flu.
Climate policy? What a crock! The UN is our enemy, just as the EU is the enemy of all Europeans and is trying to kill their farmers. In the view of tens of thousands of farmers who have blockaded many cities.
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China has read and are applying Sun Tzu’s Art of War
“Never interrupt your enemy when he is making a mistake”
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Agreed, but it was Napolean Bonaparte who said that not Sun Tzu.
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That’s Global Warming. All cooling is caused by warming. Warming disturbs the arctic jet stream which displaces cold air which cools. It’s all pretty obvious to a Climate Scientist like Michael Mann or Tim Flannery.
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‘ … the weather hasn’t change significantly …’
According to some Netizens the weather is changing, the other day in northern China the temperature reached -52 C.
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A stalled Siberian high pressure has been funnelling COLD south to China (and the Koreas & Japan) resulting in near-continuous SNOW from just inland of Shanghai (on the coast) westwards to Wuhan, the Yangtze Gorge, and on up to Tibet. Even all their coal-burning can’t ‘change the weather’. Brrrrrrrrr…
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As I have experienced, there are people who actually believe this is a result of global warming. Scandinavia has had a record cold winter. And as previously explained their story is that warming disturbs the patterns as you indicate and that forces the cold air down, so warming causes freezing. It is past ludicrous but presented as serious science.
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It must work like a kero fridge. LOL
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UK electricity prices up 425% since 2000.
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GG7YOnVWkAAghgf?format=jpg&name=medium
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“Competitive Markets”
Where are all those TVs, Commputer and Cameras made and using what form of energy?
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AGAIN here’s the Wiki link for co2 emissions for the OECD and NON OECD since 1970 or 1990.
India, China and all of the NON OECD countries’ co2 emissions have SOARED over the last 30 years.
But the USA and EU co2 emissions per year are about the same as they were in 1970 and lower than 1990.
When will these donkeys WAKE UP and start to THINK?
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/1/15/World_fossil_carbon_dioxide_emissions_six_top_countries_and_confederations.png
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On one of my visits to the UK I visted Ironbridge Gorge and walked over the first iron bridge.
There is also a wealth of history related to the Industrial Revolution plus some great country pubs such as “Ye Olde Robin Hood Inn”
Highly recommeded if you vist the UK – stay away from London though/
The Coalbrookdale blast furnace perpetuates in situ the creative effort of Abraham Darby I who discovered the production technique of smelting iron using coke instead of charcoal in 1709. It is a masterpiece of man’s creative genius in the same way as the Iron Bridge, which is the first known metal bridge. It was built in 1779 by Abraham Darby III from the drawings of the architect Thomas Farnolls Pritchard.
By the 18th century, the availability of wood for making charcoal limited the expansion of iron production, so England became increasingly dependent on imports from Sweden and Russia. Smelting with coal (or its derivative coke) was a long-sought objective.
https://whc.unesco.org/en/list/371/
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China no surprises now dominates steel making – how long can Germany remain in the top 10? The UK has just thrown in the towel.
China: 831,728,000 tonnes.
Japan: 104,661,000 tonnes.
India: 101,455,000 tonnes.
United States: 81,612,000 tonnes.
Russia: 71,491,000 tonnes.
South Korea: 71,030,000 tonnes.
Germany: 43,297,000 tonnes.
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Willis Eschenbach has proven there’s no Climate Emergency and his updates have covered 2023 and now into 2024.
So why are they lying to us and why do OECD voters take so long to wake up?
BTW the co2 Coalition Scientists all agree with Willis’ accurate data and evidence , just check it out.
https://wattsupwiththat.com/2021/04/25/wheres-the-emergency/
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G’day Neville,
I started out as a Jo follower convinced that all we had to do was establish that CO2 is a plant food, not a pollutant and its occupancy in the atmosphere is regulated by temperature and Henry’s Law. And that that all we had to do was have scientists promulgate that message. But try to get a dissenting opinion on this topic published in SMH or ABC.
But that’s not enough.
True science has been corrupted by puppeteers who now control the publication industry at all levels and produce false information while censoring ideas and individuals across the western world. Their indoctrination starts as early as first schooling and proceeds through our universities and extends to lawfare against respected professors who dare to tell the truth.
I fear that their control of what’s available to your average citizen is so strong and so widely practised that they’re unstoppable.
I hope I’m wrong.
Cheers
Dave B
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That’s an excellent outline David.
To change the current mess in a democratic manner is just not possible but we can’t continue like this
The destruction caused by the Covid episode was immense but mostly hidden from view for while. Now that some of us can see and count the damage we need urgent action to stop, delay minimise the next assault.
Perhaps we should keep in mind the fact that Klaus Schwab and his sister Analise don’t care about the average human.
And please don’t use the shortened version of his sister’s name..
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Isn’t that what politicians do?
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Carbon Dioxide emmissions per country for the past century:
https://64.media.tumblr.com/56071a2afe31963287486e66a8f26961/7c3cf1976d9cc7f9-9d/s1280x1920/76a15345abbfc087fd87ec8ddf91ec08bf3fd874.gif
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If we look at just the past decade (to 2022)
Australia reduced its local CO2 emissions from fossil fuels by 5%, Germany by 20% and the UK by 31%
for a total annual reduction of 334 million tonnes per annum
Meanwhile, China increased its emissions by 14.5 % or 1,336 million of tonnes per annum or 4 times the savings of these 3 de-industrialising countries.
India increased its emissions by 37% or 703 million tonnes per annum
Add this to China and this is six times the reduction of these three de-industrialising countries.
So who is winning the war?
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And no doubt that’s only the coal.
The unmeasured and out of sight stuff is deemed Irrelevant, see;
https://joannenova.com.au/2024/02/china-built-47gw-of-coal-power-last-year-and-is-way-off-track-to-meet-emissions-targets/#comment-2738811
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Why aren’t the greens, brainwashed school kids and teachers and other climate apocalyptics all picketing the Chinese embassy and Chinese government owned businesses in Australia, in Europe and in USA … is it because they are all ‘watermelons’?
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Yes, it’s not about saving the planet. It is about destroying western civilization.
Only the real daft ones think that there’s a real co2 emergency. But, that could be many.
A few think that a symbolic reduction on the part of the west could magically cause the nature gods to magically change the weather.
Then there are those who know it will do nothing, but think it’s “social justice” that the west should be punished, but that brings us back to destroying western civilization again.
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Consider this for a minute.
At the current rate that China is Commissioning (not constructing nor planning, but actually bringing on line) new coal fired power plants, then China is constructing the TOTAL NAMEPLATE of Australia’s entire coal fired power plant fleet ….. every TEN WEEKS.
However, those plants will deliver much more energy to the Chinese grid than all of those plants here in Oz.
Those new Chinese plants are four levels of technology higher than those Australian plants.
I started contributing Posts at my home site back in March of 2008, 16 years ago now. The first thing I did was a series of more than 50 Posts over 14 weeks. There was so much research I did in that time, and I learned so many things on a daily basis. For some of them, I had to find numerous sources, because I just did not believe most of it, and ‘committing that to print’ in a number of cases was heart in hand stuff, as, if I didn’t think it was true, then how would ordinary members of the public, untrained in electrical power generation believe it.
One of those things I found and did not quite believe (until after many days of checking so many sources) was that China was indeed bringing on line one new coal fired plant on a weekly basis, and would continue to do so into the foreseeable future. (and NOW, sixteen years later, it continues ….. at the same rate.)
That actually led to disbelief from a number of readers wherever I mentioned it, and it required specific explanation.
The first time I mentioned it was at the Post at the following link, dated 1st May 2008.
Kyoto – A Perspective (Part 19)
I had only been writing Posts for around four weeks at this time, so this ‘reads’ as a little amateurish.
Even so, many of the things I do write about in that Post are as relevant today as they were back in 2008.
Tony.
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Tony thanks again for your hard work and I hope I can follow your maths some day in the future.
But I understand you think Aussie wind capacity factor is about 30% and Solar is 14 or 15%? Is that correct?
But is it accurate to then add W and S together and divide by 2 to get an accurate W and S COMBINED capacity factor?
For example 44.5 divided by 2 = 22.2 combined capacity factor. Is this accurate and if not why not?
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A weighted average would be slightly more accurate
In 2022, 32% of Australia’s total electricity generation was from renewable energy sources, including solar (14%), wind (11%) and hydro (6%)
Also a seasonal factor would be more accurate again as solar capacity is higher in summer and lower in winter.
Not sure of the variablity of wind but this is also likely to be season and location dependent.
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Thanks Co2 Lover and you could be correct. I haven’t even attempted a back of the envelope check yet.
But electricity is only a part of the problem and I’ve linked to OWI Data below to show that in 2022 W & S only generate about 2.13% of PRIMARY global energy by SOURCE.
IOW how many 100s of TRILLIONs of $ would we need to WASTE for their definite ZERO RETURN? Bloomberg thinks about 200 TRILLION $, but I think he’s just being very optimistic. And of course ZERO change to CLIMATE or WEATHER by 2050 or 2100 or FOREVER. But the religious donkeys still BELIEVE in this BS and lunacy.
https://ourworldindata.org/grapher/global-primary-energy-share-inc-biomass
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Good to see coal making a comeback
Back up batteries for Australia alone would be around A$10 Trillion with no fossil fuel on stand-by
Current installed Grid Batteries have 4 minute back up of national demand if called on – but they are there for grid stabilisation
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And the most likely supplier of all those batteries would be?
perhaps China?
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As important as total generation is when the power is generated.
Ruinables generating at night with low demand is useless but this is probably included in the total generated power data.
Perhaps someone more knowledgeable than me could confirm/deny this
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It is of interest that the wind capacity factor in Germany is only around 20% given the amount of money that Germany has thrown at Wind Turbines.
Germany is land locked apart from the North Sea which is some distance from the Atlanic Ocean
Germany can also experience periods of low wind, dunkelflaute, in Jan/Feb 2017 there was a 5 week period in winter with very low winds
In winter, the solar capacity factor collapses given the high latitude and cloudy and snowy weather.
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It’s almost as if the Energy bureaucrats and politicians in Australia live in an information vacuum. When you surmise that couldn’t be possible, you have to come to the conclusion that the degradation of our country’s energy grid is intentional. Can’t be just bad luck either. So, a bit like COVID – where from the get:go every policy or supplied information was just wrong. If it was dumb luck then you would expect to eventually get something correct. So, a bit like the old broken clock saying. Nothing in Net Zero actually works or is feasible or is affordable.
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The only one who truly understood was Tony Abbott … look what happened to him.
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If weren’t as mature and serious I am, I could make jokes about ’emissions targets’.
Then again, as this post illustrates, emissions targets are a joke.
(Ok, I typed out a couple of sophomoric ’emissions targets’ jokes, but was able to restrain myself. A serious discussion about Saving the Planet is no place for toilet humor. How dare me.*)
* Or should it be ‘How dare me?’… ?
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This is no joke
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AGAIN here’s OWI Data primary energy by SOURCE.
This is TOTAL global energy, not just electricity and note that fossil fuels + biomass etc are still over 90% of global energy.
BUT combined W & S are just 2.13% in 2022. The graphs are active so check it out for yourselves.
So why do the OECD countries want to WASTE endless TRILLIONs of $ for a GUARANTEED ZERO DIVIDEND FOREVER?
Anyone have any ideas?
https://ourworldindata.org/grapher/global-primary-energy-share-inc-biomass
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The Chinese have a long history of understanding the benefits of fossil fuels.
Around 500 B.C., the Chinese started using crude bamboo “pipelines” to transport gas that seeped to the surface and to use it to boil sea water to get drinkable water.
The first commercialized gas distribution occurred in Britain. Around 1785, the British used “town gas” produced from coal to light houses and streets.
The burnable component of town gas consisted of mixture of carbon monoxide and hydrogen in roughly equal quantities by volume. Thus, coal gas is highly toxic and explosive.
Gasometers were use to store the town gas.
At 10.30 AM on Easter Sunday 4th April 1920 the gasometer on the corner of Pickles Street and Graham Street Port Melbourne burst into flames. The flames were estimated at 130 ft (40 meters) high and 130ft (40 meters) in diameter.
https://www.pmhps.org.au/2020/10/the-gasometer-explodes
Melbournians may be familiar with the Gasometer Hotel {Gaso} in Smith St Collingwood named after three large gasometers opposite at the Fitzroy Gas Works. The gasometers were dismantled in 1978.
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That was the period when Environment Protection laws and agencies were created around Australian states and in othe developed nations.
Another example was closure of city suburban coal fired power stations and replacements of later technology built in country areas, the power stations now closed or reaching the fifty year planned operating life for asset write off purposes.
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Ancient Melburnians might also remember the huge gasometers near the Box Hill Hospital.
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I note that the only developed country to build any significant amount of coal generation this century is Japan, which has received very little criticism.
The reason is that the bien pensants believe the nuclear power it replaced is even more evil. This proves they are more concerned about their own moral imperatives than reducing the CO2 emissions they claim as the greatest threat to the world.
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Germany shut down its {CO2 emmission free} nuclear reactors in 2023!
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China is a developed country, no matter what the UN describe it as.
Any country with the defence forces they have and a space program should not be classified as ‘developing’.
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As China carries on its merry coal-powered way, young folk are being permitted to address Parliament on the matter of “climate harm to future generations” as of yesterday. I’m sure the address focused on how bad Australia is for using fossil fuels whilst totally ignoring the fact of China’s far greater CO2 output. Scary thing is they want to make this law.
https://www.reuters.com/world/asia-pacific/young-activists-lobby-australian-law-climate-harm-2024-02-22/
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Greens voters should be asking why their politicians are not opposing the environmental damage caused by opening new forest and farmland for new transmission lines from many wind and solar installations, recent discovery that VicGov expects seventy per cent of Victoria to be impacted.
The far better alternative is to continue to use the existing main grid and upgraded as needed and existing power station locations, choice of fuel another discussion.
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Over one hundred coal fired power stations in the USA have been converted to natural gas
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with the corresponding reduction in particulate pollution….
And minor reduction in production of CO2
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What a pity we can’t ask their Piltdown Mann about capacity factors and returns(???) on investment (???) when we in the OECD WASTE many more TRILLIONs of $ on TOXIC W & S in the coming decades?
Or what damage we’ll do to our environments both onshore and offshore and all for no benefit to the stupid OECD countries by 2050 or 2100.
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Australia (26m) has 1/54th the population of China (1.41b).
Australians produce 2.45 times the amount of CO2, per person, that the Chinese people do.
Maybe you should think about that for a while.
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When China catches up in CO2 per capita with Australia,
(on this restricted definition of CO2) then the global atmospheric CO2 content may approach the optimal level for plant growth.
This is an optimistic view however, as the content of CO2 in the atmosphere is controlled by the oceans.
Are you thinking about that?
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Can’t agree with that Peter.
Certainly a great many Chinese live in very modern circumstances with electricity provided by the ubiquitous very modern coal fired generators.
Undoubtedly that “CO2” is reported.
The unreported CO2,’and other stuff produced by those who don’t have electricity and live in the countryside would be very significant.
Think also India, South America, etc where electricity isn’t there and then think of local timber, local coal, local scuba and even dried animal droppings.
It’s a con.
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That should read as; “local scrub”.
Another example of unmeasured co2 can be seen, smelt and damaged by in places like Indonesia and its neighbour Papua Niu Guinea. A smokey chokey life.
Cooking and winter heating is not according to UN dreams.
Supercritical and even ordinary coal fired power is much healthier but for some reason the the UNIPCCC just wants to ignore the plight of these masses and leave the isolated ones to breathe airborne methane,tars and particulate matter over their shortened lives.
Is this hyper hypocritical or what!
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