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‘Underground Climate Change’ Threatens to Destabilize BuildingsBy Jo Nova Fossil Fuels destroy skyscrapers nowThe storms of 2,100 have gone underground and are wrecking your city as we speak. Climate Change has is weakening the foundations, shifting the ground underneath you. If you don’t install enough solar panels, soon buildings will fall on your head. Horror movie at 8pm. News headline for breakfast. What’s the difference?
This is the headline tonight in Scientific American, and many other media outlets: Underground Climate Change Is Weakening Buildings in Slow MotionAllison Parshall, Scientific American, July 11th 2023 The headline makes no sense at all unless you view it through the lens of the climate cult. It’s as if the words “climate change” have become a substitute for the word “warming”. This story doesn’t mention carbon emissions, and doesn’t talk about “the climate” either. It’s just a click-bait headline about the urban heat island effect and how apparently it is causing subsidence or shifting which may lead to cracks in buildings. We could write it off as the daft result of thirty years of propaganda on one university press team, except that it’s appearing simultaneously tonight in Scientific American, Daily Mail, Metro UK, SciTech Daily, andScienceAlert. Presumably some engineers who wrote a paper on subsidence and other subterranean issues decided they were missing out on attention, grants and UN junkets, and are shamelessly trying to jump on the green gravy train. They invented the term “underground climate change” and the newspapers mostly soaked it up. Bizarrely, they don’t even mention “fossil fuels” and the main reasoning in Scientific American was that it was “like climate change” because it took decades to happen and involved, well, temperatures. It’s that weak. Nobody mentions, of course, that skeptics have been talking about the Urban Heat Island Effect for twenty years because then they’d have to mention how city thermometers are not remotely reliable, or how all those heatwave deaths are really due to the lack of green trees, shade and parks rather than the type of power plants. But “Underground climate change” must have been a bit much even for the The New York Times, which is the only newspaper so far to balk at using the term in a headline. Though it did make it to the subheader. The NYT team is also the only one that mentioned “fossil fuels” — explicitly blaming them. What a stretch… We’re talking about heat underneath our biggest cities. As if the emissions of a coal fired plant 500 miles away are even remotely comparable to the effect of black asphalt, six feet above and soaking up the sun. In big cities worldwide, humans’ burning of fossil fuels is raising the mercury at the surface. But heat is also pouring out of basements, parking garages, train tunnels, pipes, sewers and electrical cables and into the surrounding earth, a phenomenon that scientists have taken to calling “underground climate change.” Rising underground temperatures lead to warmer subway tunnels, which can cause overheated tracks and steam-bath conditions for commuters. And, over time, they cause tiny shifts in the ground beneath buildings, which can induce structural strain, whose effects aren’t noticeable for a long time until suddenly they are. The engineers and geoscientists at the core of this are strangely not calling for windmills and solar panels. Really, they just want a few schemes to recapture wasted heat, but dressed it up in Climate lingo. Since their schemes will not make anyone rich, and can’t be used to destroy independent businesses or help our enemies, presumably these ideas will vanish into the night… But Ferguson and the other researchers interviewed for this story all say this wasted energy [underground] could also be reharnessed, presenting an opportunity to both cool the subsurface and save on energy costs. Subway tunnels and basements could be retrofitted with geothermal technologies to recapture the heat. For example, water pipes could be installed to run through underground hotspots and pick up some of the thermal energy. While that energy wouldn’t be hot enough to turn the water into steam and create electricity, it could still be used to heat buildings and other civil infrastructure. This approach may or may not be worth the effort because it would require a high up-front cost and, in the case of the Loop district, may add up to less than 1 percent of local energy demand. — Scientific American, Our news media just cut and paste nonsense. Train the children. –Original image by Solitare from Pixabay, Words by Jo Nova.
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They would have done better calling out that huge ground worms caused by climate change, like in the movie “Dune”, would cause the subsidence. Just sayin, they are getting lazy with the click bait.
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I’m sure a lot of those who seek to enslave us believe that the Sandworms of “Dune” are real. Or, at least they are as real as all the other fiction they believe or want those to be enslaved to believe.
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When in about 1954 the wonderful Father Vincent Casey was moved from Merrriwa to New Lambton, tasked with the job of building a new church, the first thing they had to do was find a suitable block of land which had not been undermined for coal.
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And up in lower Merewether Heights, Morgan Street, where the exposed coal seam was allowed to burn itself out before being built over.
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You mean “Tremors” i think
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Wait, what?
Who knew?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K_7ByiYbCYM
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My best guess is the “climate change”followers will say anything to grab a headline and get some publicity. No claim too outrageous like recent “hottest day everrrrr…” which has now been debunked by NOAH. Then there is the Stop Oil Now mob who just want a total ban on oil/gas NOW! I wonder do these morons have any idea what they are saying. We have untold thousands of items made from by products of oil alone, everything from medicine to the very popular puffer jackets, computer and phone components etc. Can’t wait for the next episode of their drama!
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The guilty bastards changed the mantra from “Man-Made Global Warming” to “Anthropogenic Climate Change ” as a pseudo-scientific “hedge” / “catch all”.
The vaguely sentient among them possibly noticed the temperature “ripples” evident as a planet comes out of an Ice Age.
We are lucky that the Moon acts as a gigantic “rock-catcher”. as evidenced by its seriously impact-shattered surface. “Planet Killers” are REAL. They do NOT always arrive from the ecliptic plane. There is a LOT of evidence for the arrival of serious bolides from along the Polar axis. When rock-doctoring starts including aerodynamics and ballistics, it gets really interesting.
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Do you have a link to NOAH’s debunk
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Climate Change Dispatch site, July 10
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This is getting ridiculous now.
Alleged “climate change” is now an issue of psychology and social control, not science. (It was never about the science, if it was, dissenting scientific opinions would not have been and continue to be censored. The scientific method is incompatible with censorship.)
The videos I posted yesterday about keeping the masses broadly in a permanent state of fear as a prelude to totalitarian rule to “solve” the problem are highly relevant to this issue and highly recommended. We are witnessing the behaviour, past and present, of all totalitarian regimes that have ever existed, but this time we get to blog about it in real time, at least until we are banned, which is why the Australian Government (and similar regimes) are trying to outlaw so-called “misinformation” and “disinformation” (i.e. the truth or alternative opinions).
But remember, they will only succeed if we let them.
Please watch and share these two videos:
1) “The Manufacturing of a Mass Psychosis…” https://youtu.be/fdzW-S8MwbI (16.5 min)
2) “Is 1984 Becoming a Reality…” https://youtu.be/vEMlvpMY7yw (15.5 min)
I really, strongly, urge everyone to watch these videos.
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Just as I always remind members of the thinking community to:
Don’t forgive. Don’t forget. Prosecute.
when dealing with individuals who have destroyed so many lives and caused so much economic destruction with their wilful and/or incompetent covid and “climate change” mismanagement and lies.
So too, there is no excuse for members of the thinking community to remain silent about our freedoms, including our freedom to think, being stripped away.
1) Make a submission about the Australian Government’s proposed laws against so-called misinformation and disinformation:
https://www.infrastructure.gov.au/have-your-say/new-acma-powers-combat-misinformation-and-disinformation
2) Sign Senator Babet’s petition:
https://senatorbabet.com.au/petition-censorship-bill/
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David,
Both completed – thanks for the links.
Cheers,
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Not just “Don’t forgive. Don’t forget. Prosecute.” But: “Don’t forgive. Don’t forget. Make sure the law and the penalty are appropriate. Then prosecute.”
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Fear and absolute devotion to the cause. Not the Inquistion of yore, but still the same. The lights are dimming in our civilisation as the globalist ghouls wait. Our government is in on it as well – subverting the national foundations in order to comply with the One World Order. The people must stand up.
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I think that the distinction between so-called free democratic societies and authoritarian ones can be somewhat blurred. I had relations in Germany who wrote to family in Australia in the pre-war years that life was wonderful there. A national dynamic had appeared that gave people focus and national drive. I have friends in Rostov on Don who say that they have great freedom and it is interesting to compare what relative societies will allow their citizens to engage in. So, it is possible that a gentler, more compassionate form of authoritarian rule may exist in the universe. After witnessing what went on in the last few years in Australia with its form of parliamentary democracy I couldn’t be sure about anything.
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In about 2009 I heard Peter Cundle, who had recently retired aged 82 from the ABCYV’s gardening show, being interviewed on ABC radio.
He said he was born in Manchester in 1927, which means his earliest memories would be of The Great Depression.
He said” I had a wonderful childhood, playing in the streets with the other kids.. We were very poor, but we didn’t know we were poor”.
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Time to airbush out those planes hitting the Twin Towers
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‘Underground Climate Change’
Sounds more like “Subterfuge”.
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A very weird subterfuge- reporting an underground climate change movement and raising fears of a volcanic rise of subterranean heatwaves.
Is Scientific American mocking its readers?
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I prefer “desperation”.
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Not a new idea, London already has underground energy recovery heating schemes.
https://www.islington.media/news/bunhill-2-launch-pr
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I was struck by the claim that low temperature heat would be used to generate electricity, but it seems a fantasy as they use heat pumps to boost temperature to 80℃. Are these standard heat pumps using electricity or those special ones using fairy dust?
And what was the cost of this project?
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Fairy dust it is!
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Stirling engine? Some can run on a temperature differential as low as 0.5K. (But they have to be quite large which possibly makes this unworkable in a city).
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stirling_engine
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Great idea Grim. Even better results could be achieved by bringing back the original trains, which were powered by luverly coal(carbon) and produced much more useful heat. An added benefit would be a bit more life-giving carbon (dioxide).
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In the same vein, living within 100 yards of the narrow gauge railway (Puffing Billy) in the Dandenong ranges, Victoria, provides enormous entertainment value to our youngest crop of grandsons. They are absolutely spellbound at the sight and sound of these superlative examples of engineering and are a must see for them every single time they visit our house. They even love to pick up stray lumps of coal along the tracks and bring it home. Some primeval attraction at work there!
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The idea works very well to extract money from Islington taxpayers.
As described, warm air from the Tube heats water by a couple of degrees – let’s estimate from 10 C to 13 C. Then they heat it to 80 C with a heat pump and heat homes with it. What a fantastic efficiency!
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Ukraine must bomb the Russians with huge lumps of coal. That’ll be a definite victory in record time. If only we had known about the effects of coal!!
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Climate change destabilizing buildings?
We are seeing the destruction of scientific analysis.
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More proof that “climate change” is the get out of jail free card for inadequate planning and poor civil engineering.
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It’s strange that the inner city is always the centre of the most expensive real estate and yet this area is also the centre of their heat island effect?
You’d think that everyone would vacate these degraded areas and big companies would locate their centres of commerce in the outer suburbs or the countryside?
And until that happens I won’t believe the con merchants and liars latest BS and fraud.
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Perhaps they are in San Francisco where the city centre is without functioning office blocks, hotels or businesses (legal ones that is).
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ILAYlTLdGvA
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I have lived inner city and definitely prefer suburbs or rural. With modern communication it makes sense to decentralise and live regionally. There is no need to emulate Singaporean tower block living unless one emulates from a cargo cult mentality. Australia has 2 planes of permanent arrivals a day needing housing, cooping people in high density dwellings does not make any sense.
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But you are much easier to control in a city and in a tower block.
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Notice how this fits in with the story recently reported by Jo about how New Zimbabwe wants to stop teaching science?
It’s all part of THE PLAN.
Ignorant, dumbed-down people are easier to enslave.
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The only thing Climate Change is destabilizing is people’s minds.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eCtJbCqCEaU
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Note: “presenting an opportunity…”
Kl!mate Kah-ching! $ $ $ $ $ $
They could always move to Antarctica.
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Every politician under about 55-60 years age has been raised within a dumbed-down, Marxified “education” system and lacks critical thinking skills, general knowledge of science and history (and most things), has no respect for the achievements of Western Civilisation, has a racist hatred for the world’s smallest racial group (white people, 15% of world population, even though they may be a member themselves), and have absolutely no reverence for free speech or freedom of opinion.
Plus, they have been taught by Regressives/Leftists that “scientific fact is established by consensus opinion”.
There are but one handful of politicians in Australia that aren’t members of this shameful group, e.g. Senator Babet, Senator Antic, Senator Roberts, Senator Pauline Hanson, George Christenson.
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Still worse than that David most are lawyers by trade
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The effects of infrastructure on cracking buildings is nothing compared to Nature’s drought then flood! The shrinking then swelling of the ground since 2018 has cracked every house in town.
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There are parts of Melbournistan, Australia, that were built after WW2 such as around parts of Maribyrnong and Footscray, that were built on clay deposits.
The cheap construction method of the cheap houses at the time, poured-in-place concrete, could not withstand the constant expansion and contraction of the clay that occurred when the weather changed and the houses cracked and fell apart.
Nothing to do with “underground climate change” just inappropriate design and location.
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There were early suburbs in Adelaide where the soil was named (afterwards) as Bay of Biscay soil. Houses were reinforced (afterwards) with steel through them, with large steel plates on the outer walls.
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Gilgai country? Where the water runs to the low ground causing it to swell and become the high ground, till the process repeats.
Somertimes the doors at one end of the house jam, sometimes at the other end of the house.
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Hence steel stumps with threaded adjusters
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Never forget how extreme the delusional loonies have become because they actually BELIEVE their ongoing extremist positions on so called climate change.
Matt Ridley has therefore made a decision to purchase a new ICE car before 2030 as a response to the UK banning these vehicles in just seven years.
Again I’ll believe it when it happens, but will the voters have a say in the meantime?
Anyway Matt covers all of the TOXIC EV lunacy and why it will have no measurable change on the climate at all. Big surprise NOT.
https://notalotofpeopleknowthat.wordpress.com/2023/07/08/ill-be-buying-a-brand-new-petrol-car-just-before-the-2030-ban-matt-ridley/#more-65509
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To be clear, only the useful idiots are delusional and believe it.
The leaders of the useful idiots know EXACTLY what they are doing and what their objectives are.
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VERY closely related:
http://www.smalldeadanimals.com/2023/07/11/you-will-live-in-pods-eat-bugs-own-nothing-and-you-will-like-it-2/
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Those who advocate eating bugs are not the ones who intend to eat them. The Elites will continue to enjoy their Le Cordon Bleu chef cooked juicy steaks, on private jets, flying to Klimate Krisis Konferences.
Eating bugs is intended for the serfs/slaves.
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I’ve heard that an alternative cooking style to “Cordon Bleu” is “Cordon Rough”.
Bugs would have to rate as “Cordon Roughest”
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Did anyone actually ready the Scientific American article? Does it contain any substantive errors? The answer to both questions appears to be No.
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Yes.
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Simon, did you read my post? My problem is with “the title”.
They barely even attempted to justify the bizarre term. What part of “underground climate change” relates to the proper use of English in your mind? What does the word “underground” or “climate” mean? Even if we pretend (as the UN wants us to) that “climate change” means “man made global catastrophe due to CO2 emissions” it still doesn’t make sense.
Not even wrong…
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Simon,
That magazine may be American but it isn’t “Scientific” – and hasn’t been since the 1990’s. I see them in the local newsagents much smaller than before but apparently surviving with much less purchasers with limited scientific knowledge but high gullibility.
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Scientific American is yet another Psyop limited hangout for operation Mockingbird, like the wire services that are Kontrolled by the Elite wealth that owns them. If you believe the propaganda seeded into Scientific American Simon, that is your prerogative, however curious folk will notice the bias in stories that benefit the interests of the corporate elite.
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That term “pysop limited hangout” is now my latest favourite. My other one is “controlled opposition” 🙂
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So Simon, what would you do about the NON OECD SOARING co2 emissions since 1988?
See my link to OWI Data.
https://ourworldindata.org/grapher/annual-co2-emissions-per-country?facet=none&country=OWID_WRL~Non-OECD+%28GCP%29~OECD+%28GCP%29
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The observations of rising heat have been propelled via computer models to change the ground structure into the future with no current observations that is actually happening.
Furthermore we are not clear the surface infrastructure has not been built upon over the observation period or changes in external conditions, notably groundwater which will have a major influence in heat transfer.
Agree it’s not very scientific.
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The Dumbing Down of Scientific American
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All of these scare stores and yet they approve of the Chinese to keep driving up global CO2 without any cap.
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When you measure the difference in co2 emissions since Dr Hansen’s DC speech in 1988 you’ll find that the wealthy OECD countries’ co2 emissions have dropped while the NON OECD countries’ co2 emissions have SOARED.
Here’s the link from OWI Data.
https://ourworldindata.org/grapher/annual-co2-emissions-per-country?facet=none&country=OWID_WRL~Non-OECD+%28GCP%29~OECD+%28GCP%29
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It’s all phlogiston to me.
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No mention of course that buildings will be weakened by being subjected to greater pressures that they were designed and constructed for. A couple of weeks ago, the UK correspondent of a radio station I listen to, talked about multi story carparks built in the 1970s, that were designed for cars up to about 750 kg. Now these carparks are supposed to be able to accommodate EVs that weigh 1500 kg.
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750 kg, that’s about the weight of a Mini.
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Jo did a story on that a few weeks ago.
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I remember the 70s. Before the “oil crisis”, the family car just kept getting larger and larger. But when the price of oil went through the roof (or it just became unavailable due to OPEC’s refusal to sell to the West), car makers started making small cars. I remember someone was heard on CB radio describing a small car he saw as a “roller skate”. Heh-heh!
When I was growing up, the first car I remember our family having was a white Desoto. I think it had 2 doors. Then we had a blue and white Buick (Special?). I think it had 4 doors. We usually inherited my dad’s parents’ hand-me-downs. Next, I remember a long, white Oldsmobile. Wait! I think it had 2 doors! It didn’t have power steering. I was the 4th driver in the family, so it fell to me to drive that big “tank” of a car. No power steering (SHUDDER)! Then I remember a gold Buick Lesabre that my mom drove. It had a lovely radio and power steering and air conditioning! Eventually, the only new car my family ever bought was a Toyota Tercel. Now, that was a little car! My dad always said he didn’t want anyone in our family driving anything smaller than a Ford Mustang. Well, eventually when I bought my first car, it was a 1970 Toyota Corona. I think it was smaller than a Mustang, but Dad didn’t complain to me about its size. It was something I could afford. That mattered the most. Anyway, I can understand why multistory carparks were built to accommodate small cars back then.
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” is raising the mercury at the surface. ”
When is the last time you have seen a thermometer filled with Mercury? Check one:
{ } 50 years ago;
{ } 25 years ago;
{ } never.
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I have one in my bathroom, more reliable that those digital junk.
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Maybe 20 years ago. It was made in Germany. I had to special order it.
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When climate changes causes everything, it causes nothing…This is a just an embarrassing cult now, begging for more borrowed money. Trillions spent to date for what? No measurable change to temperatures or climate – just destruction of our cheap and reliable power system. How many more trillions are needed to reduce the temperature? What a sick joke.
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Scientific American – isn’t that just a Marvel comic now?
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A leftwing rag.
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How would this be any different if all of our electrical power came from renewables?
There would still be “basements, parking garages, train tunnels, pipes, sewers and electrical cables”.
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I’ve got to get myself one of these research grants. You just have to relate it to climate change and you’re good to go. May as well get your snout in the trough. The reality is there are huge wads of money swimming around for the right thing, so give me some of it.
I’m actually thinking of becoming one of those house energy rating certifier type things, one of those nonsense bureaucratic processes. Saw it on the tv the other day and thought I could do that easily. 6K for a course and become certified, and then money for jam, perhaps.
The bushfire report for development is a good one too. Churn out cut and paste reports and charge heaps, its compulsory. Total scam.
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Surely the Scientific American has been following the advice of the United Nations (a misnomer if ever there was one) and so should rightfully be known as United Nations Scientific American, or UN Scientific American, as in “unscientific”.
The UN has a bob each way by having an organization to stop wars and if that does work they have a refugee agency.
So what they lose on the swings they win on the roundabouts.
And if you sit on the fence you are a sitting duck for stones thrown by both sides.
For those who do not know what a “bob” is
https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/a_bob_each_way
https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/what_you_lose_on_the_swings_you_gain_on_the_roundabouts
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How about this one? Climate change harms local dairy industry. They’d throw money at that. Hypothesis (I mean conclusion) is rising temperatures shorten the rye grass season. Victorians would have to switch to annual rye grass and ditch the perennial, resulting in months of lost production. That would multiply out to a very large shocking figure.
Write me the cheque.
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Don’t worry, the next Ice Age will lower the temperature of Chicago’s ground to approved levels.
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Subsidence is caused by changing groundwater conditions. Shifting ground is caused by expansive clay soils expanding and contracting because of ground moisture content. None of this has anything to do with Climate Change, and everything to do with aquifer pumping, soils engineering, improper drainage design, and unthinking ill informed, science free, ideology.
Next up, they’ll claim that flat tires or gambling losses are caused by Climate Change. Is there anything it cannot do?
Supposedly, the optimal CO2 content is 350 ppm (no basis or proof, but that’s the claim). Currently 420 ppm reigns. So 70 ppm is the reduction goal. 97% of that is naturally occurring. AU is some 1.2% of world emissions. OK. Do the maths. 0.00007 x 0.03 x 0.012 = 0.00000000252 or 0.000000252% of world CO2 emissions are the AU contribution. And some idiot clown thinks this is meaningful or controls anything? Much less impacts soil expansion or groundwater aquifer depletion? This is such drivel as to be a mockery of logic and science. There is no global dynamic system where 2.52 EE -8 parts controls anything. These people are certifiably insane. Fire up the Barbie, drive the ute, take hot showers and turn on the aircon because nothing you do will change any aspect of the system. This is all about power, control, profits, wealth redistribution and propaganda.
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The climate change cult is very similar to the evolutionist cult. Climate change is all-powerful and works miracles, just as ‘chance’ is all-powerful and works miracles (against the odds – go figure). It’s all just superstitious nature-worship.
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The ‘ground’ is heating up under cities? Because of warm air in tunnels and basements? This is nonsense on steroids.
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If it was true, just like the equally mythical increase in severe weather events, it would make it even more idiotic to depend on immense wind turbines, PV solar “farms,” and hydroelectric dams.
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This is the level of stupid we are dealing with:
People like Simon et al wont understand the irony of the above statement, it will be lost on them and so we know have the latest stupidity about underground CC in Chicago.
After a 3 second google search i found this:
https://wgntv.com/weather/weather-blog/what-is-chicagos-largest-temperature-change-in-a-single-day/
In 1990 the temperature swing in Chicago was 28.6C the largest swing since records began, do “dopey dopes” like Simon think temp swings like these for 33 years would have an effect on the building infrastructure or just the climate change kind.
I am getting real sick and tired of having to deal with people sporting a <50 IQ
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Don’t disrespect your superiors 🙂
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“Our news media just cut and paste nonsense. Train the children.”
Indeed. Just saw this story from our “esteemed” ABC on gluing coral back together (in an environmentally friendly way, of course).
I thought it was The Babylon Bee when I first saw it.
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2023-07-12/scientists-invent-glue-to-repair-great-barrier-reef/102572794
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Scams are not a new invention.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sawing-off_of_Manhattan_Island
Largely unverified but not totally?
The main concern was not the futility of the idea but of Long Island’s being in the way.
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Why did they not just move Long Island first?
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Oh Gawd! More “Guamising”
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Big modern buildings are often engineered to withstand the movement from earthquakes, a movement typically much larger than this slow drift mentioned here, which might not even be real. End of story.
Geoff S
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