Vaccine injury groups reduced to talking in “carrots”. BBC dobs them in for WrongSpeak, so Facebook can shut them down

by Jo Nova

Will Jones at the Daily Sceptic noticed that the BBC was very pleased with itself for dobbing in the vaccine victims who were using carrot emojis as a code for “vaccine” on Facebook. Feel the power! Some 250,000 people had come together to discuss their injuries or the deaths of loved ones on Facebook, but after the BBC reported them, Facebook shut them down. Bravo BBC.  We wouldn’t want the riff raff to have an unpermitted conversation.

If ever there was a prime example of how publicly funded media would inevitably grow to be a communist pox on the nation, this would be it. A quarter of a million people were finding some comfort in discussing their suffering and losses on Facebook. The BBC of course, should be giving them a voice — telling their stories — and letting the world know these victims are so oppressed they have to use cartoon codes instead of words like “vaccine” to even have a conversation.

Unhappy emojiIf the victims are British, they are probably paying the BBC licensing fee and not only are they getting nothing for their money, they’re paying the salary of BBC smug know-nothings to silence them.  Does Zoe Kleinman, BBC erstwhile “commissar of permitted language” realize she has just created at least 250,000 more protesters to end the license fee”?

Anti-vax groups use carrot emojis to hide Facebook posts

By Zoe Kleinman, BBC

The BBC has seen several groups, one with hundreds of thousands of members, in which the emoji appears in place of the word “vaccine”.

Facebook’s algorithms tend to focus on words rather than images.

The groups are being used to share unverified claims of people being either injured or killed by vaccines.
Once the BBC alerted Facebook’s parent company, Meta, the groups were removed.

“We have removed this group for violating our harmful misinformation policies and will review any other similar content in line with this policy. We continue to work closely with public health experts and the UK government to further tackle Covid vaccine misinformation,” the firm said in a statement.

However, the groups have since re-appeared in our searches.

The rules of the very large group state: “Use code words for everything”. It adds: “Do not use the c word, v word or b word ever” (covid, vaccine, booster). It was created more than a year ago and has more than 250,000 members.

Obviously with Facebook censoring vaccine critics, people have had to find a way to communicate in code.

Will Jones points out how weak the excuses are:

The BBC helpfully explains that the ONS stated the risk of fatal vaccine injury last year [as one in five million] – thus implying these people must all be wrong, or at least ought not to be allowed to talk to one another.

But of course, newer data shows excess deaths are now accruing not just in the UK, but in the USA and Germany too. Even New Scientist admits there are thousands more deaths than usual, though it has no idea why. Not all the people speaking in carrots on Facebook will be relatives of a vaccine related death, some may be mistaken, but thousands of people are out there who are suffering and thousands more are not-dead but they have nerve disorders, rashes, pain and where are they allowed to talk?

If the BBC had sought out and reported their stories from the beginning, it could have saved lives instead of using state power to silence them.

On Twitter it took about 5 seconds searching for vaccinesideeffects to find this tweet.


The BBC cancels people in so many ways. Time to cancel the BBC.  There is no saving those public broadcasters.

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87 comments to Vaccine injury groups reduced to talking in “carrots”. BBC dobs them in for WrongSpeak, so Facebook can shut them down

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    R.B.

    All this protection from exposing the side effects of a vaccine that doesn’t even stop the spread of the virus. The BBC pretend as if it is like a small pox vaccine when it’s few benefits wane after a few months. There is something horribly wrong.

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      It is NOT a vaccine. It is an experimental gene therapy emergency (initially that is) approved drug that have all had very minimal testing prior to being released for use on Humans. The Human Trials are ongoing and the adverse results and side effects are shocking.

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      Mantaray Yunupingu

      Got me beat what all this talk abut gene-jabs-induced harm is all about, really….

      Kinda like whining that someone did not expect smoking 50-a-day would damage their health…WTF?

      Guys….the gene-jabs have always been known to be killers. I have no sympathy / empathy whatsoever with people who chose to be suicided from the world. None at all!

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    David Maddison

    A certain YouTuber I follow doesn’t want to be cancelled so when talking about covid vaccine killings he refers to the number of “cups of tea” the victim had.

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      Graeme+P.

      I believe that’s Swedish tea?

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      Mike Jonas

      I had a cup of tea (M*d*rn* mRN* b**st*r) just before Christmas 2021 and have since seen multiple doctors and specialists who have been unable to explain my symptoms. Initially, they were equally divided between those who could see that the v*cc*n* had somehow caused the symptoms and those who simply asserted that the symptoms had nothing to do with the v*cc*n*. But more recently, there has been a change: it seems fairly obvious to me that doctors have been restrained from making any statement that could be interpreted as being critical of the v*cc*n*. I am lucky, my symptoms do not include death (should that be d**th?).

      I did a scan of the US’s VAERS (Vaccine Adverse Events) database, and found over 30,000 cases that appeared to be in the same category as mine, yet some medical professionals still will not accept that as a possibility. As I see it, the medical system is no longer run by medical people for the benefit of patients but is now run entirely by and for bureaucrats. Just like every other government department?

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        jelly34

        I refer to the”vaccine as the”Clotshot”. After all the cases that were fatal after the”Clotshot” that I showed my wife,she still went ahead and had the first and second dose. Now all I can do is hope and pray that she doesn’t become another victim. I have no idea why so many people who I would have thought would NEVER fall for this BS,including DOCTORS have proven me so wrong.

        [wee edit. – LVA]

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    Dave of Gold Coast, Qld.

    Begs the question about here in Queensland. Not one iota of information from the “premier” or “health ministers” about the woes here. So many people have died, people are injured, some for life and we are told ZERO! The increase in average death rate tells us more than anyone. Then there’s the absurd SADS rubbish when everyone I know immediately say vaccine deaths, who do they think they are kidding?

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      Earl

      Just up the road from you and all through this exercise the most disturbing reports came from those that ate carrots ranging from m-i-l elderly friends being rushed to hospital with respiratory or heart issues (one of each in her weekly lunch circle of 5 ie 40%) to clots on the lung (a family friend currently unable to run his own business and employed a manager) while another has suddenly developed sight problems. Yes clots and sight issues are a grey area but these rare events have both afflicted those that have eaten carrots.

      Meantime life goes on with our non carrot friends though to be fair a couple have been visited by Ivan when they felt the need which soon restored their faith in avoiding carrots.

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      Terry

      and we are told ZERO!

      Waiting to be “told”, I think, is a major part of the problem we face as a society.

      The “telling” is flowing in precisely the opposite direction to that required of a healthy and just society.

      Passivity, indifference, compliance, and obedience – sheeplike – to undeserving and unqualified authoritarians is the real pandemic we continue to face.

      Australians, at least the majority, have recklessly outsourced responsibility for themselves, their families, their communities, their states, their country, their society, and their civilisation to incompetent and nefarious, malfeasants (aka The Cartel).

      Until we retake that responsibility (individually, and then collectively) and bring the belligerent bureaucracy back under civilian control, we will continue to reap the “benefits”, inflicted upon us by the rulers (yes, rulers) we deserve.

      They must be returned to servant status before any of this can begin to be repaired. It is a long, long, long road back from here.

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        jelly34

        Were going to find it difficult to return the”Public Serpents” and politicians back to their”Servent” status since”Little Johnny Howard”took away OUR rights to own fire-arms.It seems he was a closet WEF member and was”Just following orders”

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    David Maddison

    In Australia we have Their ABC as the propaganda arm of Big Government and Big Pharma.

    They too promote the official narrative that the supposed covid vaccine is safe and effective.

    The previous pretend conservative PM Morrison made an enormous mistake by appointing Ita Buttrose as ABC Chair. (More likely deliberate and not a mistake.) She was supposedly going to correct one-sided bias but instead, one of her first pronouncements is she could find no bias.

    https://www.theaustralian.com.au/business/media/ita-buttrose-defends-abc-against-bias-claims-promises-proper-stable-management/news-story/e4862393158ed10a7f7a4f5576440701

    Ita Buttrose defends ABC against bias claims, promises ‘proper stable management’

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      Ronin

      She obviously has never watched ‘Insiders’ or ‘Q&A’.

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      John R T

      “Stable management” ?!
      Managing a sheltered enclosure/pen, used protect stock – sheep, perchance?
      Narrow casting: what i$ the duty of ‘public’/official ‘new$ puppet$?

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    David Maddison

    It’s sad that conservatives and fellow rational thinkers need to develop their own language and symbolism to avoid censorship by the Left who have zero tolerance of alternative ideas.

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      Earl

      In some ways maybe but I would suggest if used correctly the benefits far outweigh the negatives. Consider “Lets go Brandon”. It very quickly got a life of its own and was even chanted on the streets of London on Monday when Brandon got stuck in a traffic jam.

      Had the real sentiment been expressed the noddies would have been in like Flynn to shut it down. Instead they are faced with showing themselves up for over reacting to something very innocuous in itself. The additional benefit is any who still do not know the meaning of the statement would immediately ask why are people saying that and so the message still gets passed on and since the asker is involved in seeking an answer when that answer is given it may trigger further conversation/questions. Suddenly we go from a passing interest into serious consideration of why/who/when/where and this deeper involvement is more likely to have an impact on them which they are more likely to remember and perhaps even ponder. After all this is the ideal aim of any advertising to plant a memory/association to generate a reaction when that memory/association is triggered.

      Control the language and you control the masses or at least the talking points of the masses.

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    Graeme+P.

    And this is what evil looks like.

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    OldOzzie

    Shades of Mengele

    Paul Dowling

    Is a Doctors’ Trial needed in America?

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      Kalm Keith

      In a true and just world that’s where the job would be properly completed: in an uncorrupted court with a path direct to permanent incarceration; at the very least.

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      John nz

      Good article, just replace US or America with your own country and government and you have a blueprint to fit most of the world.

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    David Maddison

    In Australia the Government claims the vaccine is safe and effective.

    And yet they have:

    COVID-19 Vaccine Claims Scheme

    The Australian Government has implemented a claims scheme to enable eligible claimants who have received a TGA-approved COVID-19 vaccine to obtain compensation for recognised moderate to severe vaccine-related adverse events.

    https://www.health.gov.au/initiatives-and-programs/covid-19-vaccine-claims-scheme

    Deceased COVID-19 vaccine recipient payments and funeral costs

    In cases involving death you may be eligible for payment and support for funeral costs. We’ll make this payment to the deceased’s estate.

    https://www.servicesaustralia.gov.au/deceased-covid-19-vaccine-recipient-payments-and-funeral-costs-you-can-claim-through-covid-19?context=55953

    Government wouldn’t voluntarily have schemes like that unless the number of claimants was huge.

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      Mike Jonas

      I doubt that there will be more than a token number of successful claims, given that the onus of proof is clearly on the patient (or their surviving relatives) to prove that the vaccine was the cause. Bureaucrats do not consider Blind Freddie to be a reliable witness.

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      Sambar

      The local radio runs an advert to get your children vaccinated, the claim is the vacine has been “rigorously tested”and is safe for children 5 years and above.
      This same council also offers endless advise to “get vaccinated” to protect everyone else in the community. These people, from the council CEO through the elected councillors and even radio announcers all speak as though they have a position of authority and thorough medical understanding and are therefore “to be listened to”.
      None of these people have medical backgrounds but to hear them talk you would be convinced they were all highly qualified medical professionals.

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        Gerry, England

        And yet in the UK since the beginning of this month it is illegal to jab children aged 11 and under. Only in exceptional circumstances can it be used which includes weakened immune system ironically. Many thought that the programme was just being discontinued but the approval has been revoked. The adult sheep are going to be urged to get the new Moderna jab that is designed to work on the original strain and the BA.1 strain, neither of which are in circulation.

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        jelly34

        I would think that (God Forbid) you ever have to go to court, that you would be able to SUE all those who induced people to have the “Clotshot” in a court of law?

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      Earl

      Further incongruence. In Woolworthland, until recently, they included the term “Covid Safe” at the end of their TV adverts.

      Since they dismissed all those staff who wouldn’t eat their “fresh food people” carrots (sticking with the theme of the thread) it would be a reasonable claim. This message has since ceased and maybe its because to be truly “covid safe” controls needed to not only be placed on staff working there but also customers coming and going given some 10% of the population have not taken even one carrot. When you get to a second or third serving of carrot the percentages increase further.

      But hang on asking customers to prove their carotene levels would be a turnoff and a turned off customer is less likely to want to part with their money so keep it incestuous and just stuff your own loyal staff.

      It would be interesting to know how much, across all major retail chains, was saved in long service and redundancy payouts as far as those approaching 10 years service and those chains that will be closing non-economic stores now that the dead cat retail bounce is coming to an end. And don’t forget all the rhetoric from unions on their concerns regarding the increased casualisation of the workforce – how many permanent staff were pushed out the door and replaced by casuals and not a peep from the carrot eating bruvers?

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    Penguinite

    Cancel the BBC and its off-shoot “Their ABC!” Slowly but surely the World is waking up to the surreptitious way these organs of public discourse are manipulating our lives. The current ABC project is about an Aboriginal Voice. Bring on the Referendum so we can get back to a semblance of entertainment and value from what should be a Voice for Australia without the racism.

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    Honk R Smith

    Time is safety for those that may end up looking bad for their pandemic decisions … and fibs.
    Especially if the populace is forced to focus on basic survival.
    If information suppression can slow roll public awareness, reputations and political careers can survive.
    Social Media/Tech censors a little, apologizes.
    Then censors again and apologizes.
    Until the unfortunate lobsters are boiled.
    They’re getting good at this.
    The Biden Construction does this weekly, pushing the rhetorical envelope and walking it back, or proclaiming the opposite, the next day.
    Unbalancing public opposition via gaslighting.

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    Climate Heretic

    I’m very sorry that these people are being cancelled. They need to be told that the current crop of social media Facebook, Twitter, and Tik Tok just to name a few are not their friends in fact they are their enemies, period.
     
    That’s not to say they have not been told already. An example of this egregious behavior is that Facebook listened in on people’s private conversations and reported them to the FBI  [1] [2]
     
    These people need to find alternative social media, that does not restrict their freedom of speech and spread the word.
     
    Regards
    Climate Heretic
    [1] https://nypost.com/2022/09/14/facebook-spied-on-private-messages-of-americans-who-questioned-2020-election/
    [2] https://www.neoseeker.com/news/13378-facebook-aiding-fbi-investigations-with-info/

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      Sceptical+Sam

      Do you ever say: “Hey Seri”?

      She’s listening all the time. Otherwise how would she know when you ask “Hey Seri, what’s the square root of 42?”

      Back she comes, quick as a flash. “6.4807”.

      And you think they’re not listening?

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    David Maddison

    I knew an extremely fit medical doctor that died of heart failure shortly after the covid vaccine she was required to have.

    Another young woman I know spent two weeks in hospital with vaccine side effects.

    Another older male has developed blood clots including stroke after the covid vaccine he was forced to have.

    And I don’t really know a huge number of people. Surely these numbers are prima facie worth investigating?

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      ando

      Similar story here.

      My wifes friend, fit healthy mid 30s almost died after her 2 cups of tea, off work for several months, now ongoing immune system issues.
      My cousin 40, blackbelt instructor, rushed to hospital in ambulance thinking he was having a heart attack day after 2nd cup of tea.
      My mate late 30s, fit healthy, developed blurred vision in one eye and chest pains for months following coercion to get 2 cups of tea.
      That same mates friend a nurse, developed serious heart issues after her 2 cups of tea, naturally refusing the 3rd cup so will be sacked (during a hospital staff crisis in Vic)
      A family member in ambulance vic admitted hospitals were filling with myocarditis cases when the mandates began, mainly younger males and remarked ‘myocarditis was better than covid’!
      Thats just in my small circle. Hearing plenty of other stories, including from my GP who warned me not to take any of the tea and refused to inject anyone who was coerced.

      These people were all at pretty much zero risk from covid – My self and another were the only refuseniks in our office, neither of us has had covid or off with colds/flus over the last 12 months, unlike all the other double/triple/quad vaxxed, leading to off the chart sick leave in the company.

      My wife is about to be sacked if she doesnt agree to infinity ‘boosters’ after being coerced into the first two shots, for an office job with no public interaction but can go to the MCG with 100K other people screaming their lungs out…’The science’ lol.

      This needs a royal commission and jail time for the sellouts that have allowed this to happen.

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        jelly34

        Forget the royal commission Ando,we need something like the Nuremberg Trials.That will make them all sit up and take notice.

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      Ross

      I have no doubt every family has similar stories to tell. Mine-personally, after 2 x AZ’s my psoriasis went crazy. New patches and where previous small patches now bigger. Wife, 2 days in bed after her AZ booster. Brothers and sisters (60’s) all spent probably at least a day ” sick” or in bed following their initial vaccines. My son ( 20’s) had a weird weekend after his 2nd Pfizer where he felt like he was on high level drugs. My DIL has experienced prolonged paralysis in one leg and other pain symptoms following her Pfizer booster back in February. Spent days in hospital, ED’s and numerous consults with neurologist, rheumatologist etc. No one can pinpoint the cause. She was a staunch critic of “anti-vaxxers” , but now is starting to realise the vaccine may have amplified her symptoms. She had always had bad migraines and symptoms of MS in previous years. But they were only transient prior. Now she’s had 7 months of continual pain and immobility. My theory, she still has spike protein floating around her body, causing all sorts of inflammation.

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        Ross, just a thought — your DIL may benefit from B12. Not necessarily cyanocobalamin (cheap, synthetic and common form), but one of the other forms methyl/adeno/hydroxo-cobalamin. Deficiency in B12 can increase migraines, and cause nerve damage. It’s a big molecule, and hard to absorb. As we age deficiency is more common. We only absorb 0.1% of a tablet. Sublingual is better. IM Injections are $5, no script needed. (Though we should all google side effects and contraindications, talk to a doc). Testing B12 levels is only so useful. Doesn’t always mean what people think. B12 is involved in restoring myelination (the insulation) on our nerves. Periferal nerve damage is one symptom of B12 deficiency.

        I’m glad people are sharing their stories here, wish there were no stories that needed telling.

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          Ross

          Thanks Jo for your kind suggestion. That treatment should have been well and truly in the wheelhouse of the nerurologist the DIL has consulted. The best he can can come up with is Functional Neurological Disorders ( FND ), which sounds like one of those “catch all” descriptors. I think she may have had some injections. I will ask ( very diplomatically ) as to possible B 12 injections etc.

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    TIP

    do we need modern day “guarantee of service” rules

    Telecom was not allowed to withhold service to a telephone line (or maybe even mobile) for political or social reasons – a LAW would have to be broken to do so.

    Social media has placed itself as the center of modern-day communications (reaping the billions of profits in doing so)…now responsibility should come with such power.

    Rather – you can now break all kinds of LAW and Facebook/Twitter etc wont inhibit your use of their service in ANY way….in fact may still PROMOTE it.

    The TECH reaction, to Andrew Tate (love him or loathe him) is frightening….even UBER banned him..WTF.

    RESPONSIBILTY to guarantee service based on the actual LAW of the land and judicial system (paypal and financial tech included).

    One day yourself or your family WILL be on the outside of the GROUP THINK (not the LAW) – you will be CRUSHED into SUBMISSION.

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      David Maddison

      Texas has a law that stops social(ist) media with more than a certain number of million subscribers from banning people on the basis of their viewpoint.

      This has just been tested in court and found valid but the socialist media is appealing.

      It is discussed by Steve Turley:

      https://youtu.be/GC1WFOpcZe8

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      Murray Shaw

      Well TIP, not being on Twitter, FB, ticktok, etc, they will not crush me.
      Having said that, they are probably monitoring me on JoNova, so maybe I can expect a knock on the door.

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        bobn

        Be sure to boycott Paypal as well. They are blocking and banning people and groups that support free speech.
        Fight against the cashless conspiracy. If you are cashless then a bank or similar is in control of your money and transactions. They can block your account and payments anytime they like (as with the Canadian truckers).
        The cashless conspiracy is to take full control of all your money and your life. Be warned! Use cash!

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        Sceptical+Sam

        “Hey Seri, whadaya got on Murray Shaw?”

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    Rosco

    What I can’t wait for is when the loony climatistas take on Labor for failing to fix the climate. It won’t be long for these impatient gullibles – they’ve already given us a taste before Parliament.

    What’ll the ABC do then ?

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    Dennis

    Based on advice from my GP, from family pharmacist conversations and others I was convinced that the Astra Zeneca vaccine for COVID-19 was worthwhile to reduce the potential impact of the virus and therefore possibly avoid intensive care. But I also continued to take Vitamin D, Zinc, C and other supplements and to spend time most days sitting in the sunshine. I have not had COVID, and I have had three vaccinations.

    I posted here a while ago that in between the first and second injection I noticed on my blood pressure monitor that BP was higher than my average normal and then that the irregular heartbeat symbol was flashing often but not every time I checked BP. After consulting my GP and several heart checks he referred me to specialists to have done it was confirmed that I had non-valvular atrial fibrillation but it is irregular. So my BP medication was changed (Atenolol doubled to twice a day) and blood thinner added (Alquist).

    My BP remains slightly higher now but lower than it was and the irregular heartbeat is still intermittent.

    I have been advised by the Pharmacist that she knows of another male of my age who had the same experience and I have been reading more acknowledgements that AF is not uncommon after the vaccine.

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      David Maddison

      Can you believe that in a supposed scientific paper they blame vaccine-related atrial fibrillation on fear of covid vaccination?

      Beyond belief. This is what rational thinkers are up against.

      I don’t doubt such cases may exist but they detract from proper investigation or diagnosis of cases actually caused by the defective vaccine, not fear

      Covid-vaccine-fear-induced paroxysmal atrial fibrillation causing multiple acute arterial infarctions: a case report

      Negative emotions such as stressful stimuli, sadness, or anger have been suggested as triggers for atrial arrhythmias. Covid vaccination fear, as an acute stress situation, could lead to atrial arrhythmias with devastating consequences. Herein, we report a case with multiple acute arterial infarctions, which were caused by covid-vaccine-fear-induced paroxysmal atrial fibrillation (AF).

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    The elite snobs are the people keeping the BBC and the ABC alive.

    They don’t understand that if they get what they want they will be among the proles.

    It only takes a handful of people to run a global military dictatorship.

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    David Maddison

    “Journalists” should actually do their jobs and not participate in the propaganda campaign.

    They need to follow the money trail which is exactly what US politician Senator Dr Rand Paul intends to do when the Republicans get into power.

    The Senator is doing the job the journalists are meant to be doing.

    In the following video from a few days ago Senator Dr Rand Paul grills Fauci.

    Among other things Senator Paul says (starting at about 5 mins):

    and furthermore we’ve been asking you and you refuse to answer whether anybody on the vaccine committees gets royalties from the pharmaceutical companies – I asked you last time and what was your response? “We don’t have to tell you.” Right. We’ve demanded them through the freedom of information act and what have you said “We’re not going to tell you.”. But I tell you this: When we get in charge we’re going to change the rules and you’ll have to divulge where you get your royalties – from what companies – and if anybody on the committee has a conflict of interest we’re going to learn about it – I promise you that.

    No wonder Fauci has decided to “retire”.

    https://youtu.be/ppVW5ANM1t8

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      Scissor

      They are all getting paid to promote certain narratives and to downplay others. Mainstream journalism hardly exists anymore.

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    David Maddison

    So…

    A “carrot” emoji is not OK.

    But a “pregnant man” emoji is OK…..?

    https://spectator.com.au/2022/05/the-pregnant-man-emoji-and-other-absurdities/

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    “Meta” means “death” in Hebrew

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      David Maddison

      Yes.

      It’s an interesting contrast to Trump’s “Truth” platform.

      The Hebrew word for truth is “emet”.

      The Hebrew word for death (or specifically “she is dead”) is “meta”. It’s almost a rearrangement of the same word.

      Emet אמת and Meta מטא. Truth or death.

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    Kevin Kilty

    “no-nothings.” know-nothings?

    [Indeed! Twas a 4am finish. 🙁 Luckily proof-reading editor volunteer fixed. – Jo]

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    Rupert Ashford

    Boggles my mind that there are still people surprised by the fact that it “seems the media only let you read what they want you to”. It’s Chomsky 101. And the biggest joke is if you mention the statement by Chomsky about “controlling the narrative and allowing “robust debate” around that narrative to sustain the impression that there’s a lively debate going on in the media” on any MSM comments string your post gets censored away in no time.

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    Grogery

    Maybe some of these people silencing “wrongspeak” should read some recent info on how this situation happened to us in the first place.

    Maybe if these people silencing “wrongspeak” comprehend (I doubt it) that there are evil people doing evil things in this world, which led (maybe intentionally) to the obsession to mass inject human subjects with experimental substances, they might allow people to have educated alternative views.

    This document would be a good start: https://renz-law.com/wp-content/uploads/Senator-Johnson-Final.pdf

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      Steve of Cornubia

      As in other matters, there will be plenty of leftists who understand that silencing/censuring people who simply want an open discussion about the ‘vaccines’ is wrong but, because those critics are predominantly conservatives, they will turn a blind eye. It’s never the principle that matters to lefties, only the side.

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    Ross

    This is just ridiculous that we (the people)have to go to such clandestine lengths to hide discussion about the COVID vaccines. This group used “carrots”, other commentators use all sorts of code to hide the word “vaccine”, if it’s in written form. Some use \/ (backward/ forward slash together). JP Sears in his Youtube/Rumble satirical pieces just coughs when the word is “vaccine”. It’s up there with Harry Potter and “he who must not be mentioned” (Voldemort). Another word starting with V.

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    David Maddison

    Why aren’t the usual resident Leftoids here defending this assault on free speech?

    Come on guys, don’t be shy, conservatives don’t silence people like the Left do…

    Let’s hear your defence.

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    Steve of Cornubia

    Calls for a real investigation into Covid crimes will be overtaken by new fear campaigns, whether they be energy shortages, food shortages, more pandemics, fighting ‘right-wing terrorism’ or China being goaded into war with Taiwan.

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      David Maddison

      I agree. I fear that there is little likelihood of covid mismanagement being investigated.

      All guilty parties have the Government, Deep State, the Enemedia, the social(ist) media, “academics”, public serpents and others protecting them.

      There is one exception though. See the video I posted above of Rand Paul interrogating Fauci. If Trump becomes President again (which he will if there is no election fraud and he runs, or the Dems don’t exercise the “nuclear option” against Trump) the GOP will be going for a full investigation of Fauci and his comrades and who has been taking “royalty” money. Fauci will be investigated whether he is retired or not.

      But I tell you this: When we get in charge we’re going to change the rules and you’ll have to divulge where you get your royalties – from what companies – and if anybody on the committee has a conflict of interest we’re going to learn about it – I promise you that.

      If that investigation happens, it might trigger investigations in other countries.

      The guilty parties are probably destroying evidence already but they won’t be able to destroy all of it.

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    Brenda Spence

    Rebecca Weiser in Spectator has written an extensive article saying the same

    Death by Carrot

    https://www.spectator.com.au/2022/09/death-by-carrot/?utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=UNFI%20%2020220920%20%20GK&utm_content=UNFI%20%2020220920%20%20GK+CID_12970168d29358ae4d137b55df218c9b&utm_source=CampaignMonitor_Australia&utm_term=Death%20by%20carrot

    A private Facebook group about people who died suddenly is growing suddenly. It had less than 10,000 members in early August but now has 256,000 members with 6,000 joining in the last week. The group allows members to share personal testimonies of injuries and deaths they have witnessed after eating carrots. Carrots? The first rule of the group is that you will only be published if you write in code. Members must not use the C word, the V word, the B word, that rhymes with rooster, or the J word, which sounds and looks like a shish kebab.

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    Adellad

    And now the deeply New World Order Marxists at Their ABC have unearthed yet another “White People Are Horrible to Poor Aborigines” story to damage the footy in Grand Final week. It it’s normal Australian culture, it’s in the sights of the evil public broadcaster to destroy it. And us.

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    Kalm Keith

    Several people above have related stories of close personal contacts who have suffered VaXXine Adverse effects.

    It’s heartbreaking to read them and deal with the reality of what caused all that pain.

    The world is in a state of crisis that’s almost incomprehensible.

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    Gerry, England

    I gave up the licence over 10 years ago following the disgraceful Ross-Brand insulting of the late great Andrew Sachs on BBC radio. Of course these days with streaming services it is easy not to watch broadcast TV.

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      Ronin

      159 pounds to watch crap tv, bet there will be plenty who will drop it in favour of cooking or heating this winter.

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    Can we stop calling it a Vax and call it what it really is. “Gene therapy”.

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    SamT108

    Define ‘vaccine’? It has been centuries since any ‘vaccines’ have had anything to do with cows. Eh what, you say?

    Although it was already well known in the Subcontinent, the connection between cowpox and smallpox was not discovered in the West until it was observed that milkmaids infected with cowpox were immune to smallpox. That is how the Latin word for cow ‘vacca’ was adapted (Anglicised) and adopted for the new ‘vaccine’ treatment that was developed.

    Actually, way before this, a practice called variolation was used in India (since who knows when!) where a tiny amount of the crusty scab of a recovered smallpox patient was scraped and smeared into a small cut in the arm of someone wishing to develop immunity. This process transferred antibodies from the healed person to the other. Technically this is a type of inoculation.

    Although the words inoculation, immunisation and vaccination are nowadays bandied about and used interchangeably they are distinct, separate medical procedures. Perhaps ‘immunisation’ is the best word to use in the broadest sense, although these days shot, jab, vax or vaccination are increasingly popular. Variolation is a type of inoculation. Vaccination was originally immunity to smallpox acquired by developing antibodies from having cowpox. Using the general terms, Vaccination, inoculation and immunisation (acquiring and/or developing immunity) these days can be split up into many techniques:

    1. Active and Passive
    Passive- Immunisation such as for diphtheria and tetanus (eg the tetanus booster where antibodies are transferred from a healthy host). Also extended to antitoxins;
    Active-
    Inactivated (“killed” particles that cannot replicate);
    Attenuated (“live” particles such as weakened microbes that induce antibody production but aren’t strong enough to make you sick);
    [ *The first Polio vaccines (nothing to do with cows!) Salk and Sabin used either method. The latter was oral and the former was injected.]

    2. Nanoparticle technology
    Modern viral vector and messenger ribonucleic acid vaccines that use harmless genetic encoding in a part of the virus (the spike protein) that stimulate an immune response in host cells. They never enter the nucleus of the cell and therefore cannot alter the DNA which is only strictly inside the nucleus. It is only the RNA which is outside the cell. The antibodies thus produced later recognise the real virus and attack and kill it.
    There are also other platforms and research into Subunit, Recombinant proteins, Peptides and other types of vaccines in development in many countries around the world.

    It has been centuries since any ‘vaccines’ have had anything to do with cows.

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      milkmaids did not get “Sick” because they drank fresh milk, is that what really happened?
      A healthy diet leads to less infections or what looks like an infection?

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      Kalm Keith

      I seem to have read all that before somewhere.

      As you say, the language changes with time and usage so that only very old people like us would associate “cows” with the word “vaccine”.

      The meaning of the word for the average person implies a treatment that helps fend off a noxious spreading low life form and reduces spread.

      If, as in the case of CV19 “jabs”, there is no protection against spread and no other apparent benefit there are a lot of questions that government must answer.

      The jab is obviously causing much damage and giving little discernible benefit to recipients.

      That doesn’t seem to qualify as a Vaccine.

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        It may not have been milkmaids but was probably farmers catching Cowpox and getting immune that gave Edward Jenner the idea.
        https://www.npr.org/sections/goatsandsoda/2018/02/01/582370199/whats-the-real-story-about-the-milkmaid-and-the-smallpox-vaccine

        Keith, I’m not suggesting the current “so-called” vaccine is much use, or more than barely worth the name, just that people are getting hung up on the semantic name battle and definitions of vaccine, but it’s not a war worth fighting. There are so many important battles, let’s stick with the crimes — forced injections, banning of safe drugs, lack of informed consent, suppression of early treatment, suppression of preventative medicine, nutrients, diet and exercise etc. Suppression of victims voices…

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          Kalm Keith

          I agree Jo that we need to front the primary issues you mentioned.

          Applying that idea to the CAGW, Man Made Global Warming and death by incineration due to excess CO2 levels issue, would also be a great move.

          The primary feature of the UNIPCCC push for Zero Carbon is that there is Absolutely and Incontrovertibly no Scientific basis for the claim of human causation of Global Warming.

          It’s a total scientific nonsense to suggest that Man can heat the atmosphere in the manner claimed.

          The fact that the “Warmers” push a scientific episode from a hundred years ago as “proof” of CO2’s super thermodynamic powers is mind boggling and defies all considerations of current understanding in the area of atomic physics. Arhenius would be appalled at the misuse of his speculation, which he later recanted.

          In the CAGW thing we really should be adopting the same approach to completely nullify all of the Planet Saving measures that have been dumped on us.

          It astounds me that this CO2 stupidity has stood untouched for so long while enormous damage is inflicted on society.

          There IS NO way that CO2 can heat the Planet.

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      Kalm Keith

      Hi Sam,
      Correction, I had read most of that before, but Item 2 was interesting.

      The text suggests that the new vaccines based on this concept are harmless in terms of side effects. I vaguely remember reports of the “testing” of a Gates related polio vaccine in Africa which was very damaging to recipients.

      Recent introduction of the Flu vaccine has me worried and the performance of the CV19 Vaxxines has me terrified.

      Vaccines are meant to save live, not end them.

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    The trillion dollar question, there is no procedure to find a complete virus in the lungs of a so called infected person?
    Or a procedure to find a complete virus in a mask?
    Why are we wearing masks if we cannot find a complete virus or virus mono culture in a mask?

    If we cannot find a complete virus mono culture at the so called SITE of infection the human lungs, then at what point can we safely say they do not exist?

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      Kevin has been informed that the virus has been isolated in code in full many times. (See my links in reply above in this thread to the last rounds of this same argument.) Indeed the exact sequence has been done more than five million times. He’s been asked to look at Nextstrain open source data to see that — its all there — listed in samples, in full code, with all the mutations described at every single one of the 29,000 bases of RNA, and the name of the labs, the town, the pathologist, the date, etc etc. (Yes, those numbers are all real, not made up for effect).

      The virus has been photographed — individually. It’s been isolated in plaque assays. I’ve asked him to learn what a plaque assay is. We also use Eliza tests, symptoms, d-dimer blood tests, oxygen saturation levels and contact trace those infections. There must be a billion observations that Kevin has no explanation for.

      Dr Sam Bailey and others talk about Koch’s postulates which are from the 1800s and applied to bacteria. They are outdated, irrelevant and viruses are not bacteria.

      There is no such thing as a virus “monoculture”. A virus is not living, it is just a code. It can’t propagate without a cell. Therefore there is only one virus in a test tube for two weeks til it degrades to component parts, or there is tissue culture with a swamp of cells, debris and food and it’s very expensive to separate them all out. We do separate them out all teh time though, we do it with DNA or RNA assays, not with chemical extraction. A virus is a code and we’ve isolated the code.

      You can’t find a computer virus monoculture either, because they don’t exist. Like we don’t have a box of gravity, but it seems to be real.

      See my other replies to Kevin

      I am weary to the end of explaining this to someone who apparently has no interest in even reading my replies. Seems kinda rude really.

      We who battle the UN and a wall of money need all the voices we can get, but some battles are worse than a waste of time. The “virus can’t be isolated” misunderstanding is one of them. Though it may make some people feel better to believe a myth, but I’m sorry I can’t help those folk if that’s what they want.

      No fantasies fed here…

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