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South Pole has coldest winter ever, but it’s just “a blip”

The sun has just risen on South Pole after the coldest six month period on record since 1956. The last winter there was suddenly 2.2 degrees Celsius colder than the average for the last 30 years.

Remember when Polar Amplification meant Antarctica was melting?

South Pole Sunrise from the coldest winter ever.

Thanks to NoTricksZone

South Pole Sees Record Cold Winter, Smashing 1976 Record …“Chill Was Exceptional”

Jason Samenow and Kasha Patel, Washington Post

The chill was exceptional, even for the coldest location on the planet.

The average temperature at the Amundsen–Scott South Pole Station between April and September, a frigid minus-78 degrees (minus-61 Celsius), was the coldest on record, dating back to 1957. This was 4.5 degrees lower than the most recent 30-year average at this remote station, which is operated by United States Antarctic Program and administered by the National Science Foundation.

One hot weekend in Miami is Climate change but the coldest six months in Antarctic records is a blip:

While impressive and unexpected, scientists characterized this record as a mere blip and curiosity as both Antarctica and the planet continue to rapidly warm amid escalating extreme weather.

Antarctica has been cooling for a thousand years (or maybe 2,000). That’s a long blip.

Antarctic temperature trends, cooling,

Cooling for a thousand years.

Climate change has been making Antarctic summers cooler too. Blips are everywhere.

antarctica cooling summers

Surface Air temperature over East Antarctica (presumably in summer) from Hsu et al 2021.

And the ocean around Antarctica is cooler too:

The extreme cold over Antarctica helped push sea ice levels surrounding the continent to their fifth-highest level on record in August, according to the National Snow and Ice Data Center.

As usual, scientists didn’t predict the record cold — but they knew why it happened:

“Basically, the winds in the polar stratosphere have been stronger than normal, which is associated with shifting the jet stream toward the pole,” Amy Butler, an atmospheric scientist at NOAA, wrote in a message. “This keeps the cold air locked up over much of Antarctica.”

No climate story is complete without the cult litany:

Scientists stressed that the record cold over the South Pole in no way refutes or lessens the seriousness of global warming. Antarctica is notorious for its wild swings in weather and climate, which can run counter to global trends.

At minus 60C even the planes don’t go:

Matthew Lazzara, Antarctic scientist said “At these temperatures, it is difficult to operate aircraft,” he wrote in an email. “[B]etween -50°C and -58°C you put the aircraft at risk with the hydraulics freezing up or fuel turning into a jelly.”

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118 comments to South Pole has coldest winter ever, but it’s just “a blip”

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    TdeF

    It’s all part of ‘hide the decline’. Only warm events or storms will be reported. But you cannot hide the truth.

    For example after the Chinese government ban on Australian coal, leaving it to rot on the docks, coal prices have never been higher. Thermal coal has gone up x3 in price and metallurgical coal for making steel x4. And across China, energy is being rationed. Factories are slowing and elevators are turned off. Why?

    Buried in the report in the Australian newspaper yesterday was the simple explanation that last year was very cold. You will not hear that from NASA or the IPCC or the BOM.

    And today that news has vanished.

    Today the illogical explanation “Energy prices have jumped around the world as big industrial economies ramp up as the impact of the coronavirus fades.”

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      TdeF

      The exact quote from the lead article in the Business Australian yesterday was

      “Importers in North Asia, particularly China are keen not to repeat their experience from last winter, where colder than usual temperatures..”

      They go on to talk about LPG gas prices rising even more.

      There is only one reason for energy prices to spike x3. A massive mismatch of supply and demand.

      So you get the disconnect between the Green energy view of cheaper, adequate, reliable windmill and solar and the tough reality of a coal and gas dependent world rapidly cooling as predicted by real scientists.

      Can AGL please not shut Liddell? After a loss of $2Billion last year, accept the $250 million cash offer for the free power station bought for $1. Last summer in Melbourne was the coldest in living memory.

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        Sambar

        TdeF, I’m having difficulties believing that the weather is getting colder anywhere. As reported in News.com yesterday

        “THE NATIONS EAST COAST IS SET TO SIZZLE THIS WEEK AS A HEATWAVE SWEEPS ACROSS NSW AND QUEENSLAND. SYDNEY WAS BRACING FOR ITS HOTTEST DAY IN THREE WEEKS, WHILE BRISBANE RESIDENTS COULD GET THEIR WARMEST WEATHER SINCE APRIL, AS THE COUNT DOWN TO SUMMER BEGINS.”

        Sydney is expecting clear skies and a top of 28 degrees on Monday, while Brisbane is expected to get to 32 degrees. Temperatures for the rest of the week for both cities are expected to be in the high twenties!
        What with temperatures running out of control like this people will soon be able to freeze an egg on the footpath.

        k

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      The climate change scare chickens are really coming home to roost.

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      Lance

      Minnesotans 4 Warming: Hide The Decline

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WMqc7PCJ-nc

      🙂

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    Peter Fitzroy

    While the ice extent was at its 5th highest level in August, it is rapidly declining and is well below average for both September and October according to the same source quoted in the post.

    But I do like to optimism of seeing one anomalous data point and calling it a trend.

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      TdeF

      An anomalous data point? “the coldest six month period on record since 1956“. The official story is rapid Global Warming. It looks like rapid global cooling.

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        Peter+Fitzroy

        Yes you nailed it.
        Consider this: why do we have to go back as far as 1956, or 1938 (coldest ever)

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          TdeF

          The record cold was the coldest recorded at the Amundsen–Scott South Pole Station, established in 1957. Our own Mawson base was established in 1956. There was no permanent base until after 1944. Who was measuring the temperature in 1938? And where in Antartica, an area twice the size of Australia and our Mawson base is only at latitude 67South. Amundsen is at the South Pole and this is a 4.5 degree drop in an average, not a sudden event or single measurement at a single location.

          Apart from territorial claims and disputes, the significance is that our cold weather comes from Antarctica. As with the ‘polar vortexes’ which froze the US and Europe last year, there is no colder place. So the temperature in Antarctica cannot be explained by pointing to somewhere else.

          This is huge sudden cooling of the Southern Hemisphere at least. And the Southern oceans are reporting temperatures which look to be the lowest in 10,000 years. Rapid Global Cooling is underway, as predicted. Which is why the price of coal has tripled.

          Global Warming is busted.

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          clarence.t

          Antarctic continues its long term cooling

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          R.B.

          Because of short records, and it’s weather partially determined by ocean currents oscillating. La Nina/El Nino along with a 60 year oscillation.

          Australia is in a cold snap, because of weather. The cold from Antartica has come up, which means that the heat meant for us went down there.

          The heat wave of the NE of North America last summer affected 1.5% of Earth’s land mass. A one in 100 year event happens like that, on average, every one and a half years somewhere in the world. With every weather event being due to global warming and global television country, you can easily deceive people.

          That heat wave was similar to one 80 years ago. It might have been slightly hotter but since records are poor from 80 years ago, we can’t be sure and we have no idea if that 1 in 100 event was a little cooler than normal.

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            TdeF

            The South Pole is as far from an ocean as you can get, on average about 1500 miles although it gets as close as 800 mils. Antarctica is the size of South America, the pole is in the middle. And the height is about 3.5 km of solid ice. Heat waves?

            What we are seeing is a real dip in solar intensity as expected. And the Pacific oscillations will also dip, but that is more significant at much higher latitudes. Combined we expect a drop of a few degrees in global temperature by 2030. Perhaps those windmills will turn faster, but then they will overload and drop out.

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            William

            R.B, the Federation Drought was hotter and longer than anything we have experienced lately. And that is why our official records start in 1910 – if you include the late 1800s, there is no overall increase in temperature in Australia since then (other than the ACORN-Sat adjustments).

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              R.B.

              And we don’t know if it was a lot more common than once in 100 years before European settlement, a bit over 200 years ago.

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      John+R+Smith

      If only the glaciers were advancing, we could stop wearing masks.

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      Tilba+Tilba

      The sea ice “mélange” is thinning as a result of warmer oceans, and therefore its capacity to hold glaciers together declines.

      https://au.news.yahoo.com/ice-melange-antarctica-153539140.html

      So one cold winter means Global Warming is a myth? Not convincing.

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        Do point to all the times you protested that “one hot summer doesn’t prove Global Warming”.

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          I suppose after one becomes 6 or 7 you stop protesting.

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          Tilba+Tilba

          Do point to all the times you protested that “one hot summer doesn’t prove Global Warming”.

          But I’ve never had to do that – average global temperatures have been rising for years and years. Ten hottest measured years are in the last fifteen.

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            And fifteen “paused” years in the last 25 show the models are worthless.

            You’ve never noticed 1 of the 100,000 media stories saying or implying the hottest summer/state/region/town/site in the records/last 30 years/last ten years/since six months ago, does not show “Climate change” and prove CO2 is causing storms/floods/droughts/heatwaves and hot long weekends?

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              Simon

              The “pause” was never anything more than cherry-picking of natural variation. Any statistical test of a change or break in global surface or tropospheric temperature post 1960 (e.g. using the Chow test https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chow_test) will fail.
              Tamino has several good posts on the matter.
              https://tamino.wordpress.com/2018/01/31/global-warming-the-relentless-trend/
              https://tamino.wordpress.com/2016/11/07/testing-for-change/
              https://tamino.wordpress.com/2016/04/15/global-warming-basics-trend-games/

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                clarence.t

                Actually , most of the last 43 years has been “trendless”

                There have been two major warming events at the two major El Nino events
                between those events there was basically no warming.

                From 1980-1997 basically no trend, and from 2001 – 2015, zero trend

                So for 33 of the last 43 years.. zero trend.

                These are not cherry picked, the two El Nino events are obvious small step changes in the temperature data that can only be denied by closing your eyes and pretending they don’t exist.

                And yes , they are “natural” events, with absolutely zero human influence.

                As we all know, CO2 does not cause atmospheric warming , it does not “trap” heat.
                That is a scientifically unsupportable fallacy.

                From 1980-1997 basically no trend, and from 2001 – 2015, zero trend

                So for 33 of the last 43 years.. zero trend.

                Oh, and Tamino is the very last person to go to for anything resembling climate reality.!

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                clarence.t

                It should also be noted that the graph in Tamino’s first link is using once-was-data, that has undergone relentless adjustment.

                Relentless adjustment is where most of the warming in GISS et al come from.

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            clarence.t

            “Ten hottest measured years are in the last fifteen.”

            And yet they are far below most of the last 10,000 years.

            Current global temperatures are but a small bump above the coldest period in those 10,000 years, and a has been the period of human expansion and abundance, just like all warm periods have been in the past.

            Increased solar energy will always cause warming.. be very thankful we are not still back in the LIA !

            https://i.postimg.cc/8PjKLB02/Solar-Activity-Proxies.png

            And of course, there is no evidence that atmospheric CO2 causes warming.

            It does not “trap” heat or energy, that is shown by the fact that OLR follows atmospheric temperature.

            https://i.postimg.cc/76VcwYzV/OLR-increase.jpg

            We also see that the increased absorption by extra plant food gas in the atmosphere is channeled to the atmospheric window.

            https://i.postimg.cc/FRtCjkyG/Radiative-change.jpg

            There is absolutely zero science to back up the fairy-tale of CO2 warming.

            It only exists in baseless conjectures and climate models.

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        clarence.t

        “Not convincing.”

        Yep, your comment is totally unconvincing.

        Antarctic cooling for last 40 years

        https://notrickszone.com/2021/09/27/more-evidence-antarctica-has-been-cooling-regional-sea-ice-increasing-for-over-40-years/

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      clarence.t

      Meanwhile, The Arctic sea ice is growing rapidly.

      Since Antarctic “topped-out 2 weeks ago , it has lost 0.143 km²

      While since it bottomed out 8 days ago, the Arctic has gained 0.613 km²

      So the growth of sea ice in the Arctic is about 7 time faster than the loss in the Antarctic.

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        clarence.t

        Oops… missed the top and bottom points on both.., pre-morning coffee !

        Let’s look just at the last 2 weeks of Sidads data, see which is changing more rapidly.

        Antarctic change is minus 0.17 km²

        Arctic change is plus 0.655 km².

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          Tilba+Tilba

          Antarctic change is minus 0.17 km²

          Arctic change is plus 0.655 km².

          Well you would expect that – Antarctica is heading into summer, and the Arctic is heading into winter. Nothing surprising here.

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            clarence.t

            PF made the statement that Antarctic was “rapidly declining”.

            It isn’t. He was fact-checked and shown to be factually incorrect.. as usual.

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      TedM

      “One anomalous data point.” Can you read a graph? Unnecessary question because the answer is obviously, NO!

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      a+happy+little+debunker

      But I do like to optimism of seeing one anomalous data point and calling it a trend

      Just like calling a couple of warm days in Portland unprecedented warming thusly proving a climate emergency…

      Except this is about a WHOLE continent that can fit 41100+ “Portlands”…

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      el+gordo

      ‘ … well below average for both September and October …’

      That is true, so what are the mechanisms involved?

      https://sunshinehours.net

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    PeterS

    Not only that but Siberia set for extreme winter deep freeze, Russian experts predict, as Europe faces energy shortages with cooler weather on way.

    So, where’s the global warming, and why are our world leaders, including Putin working together to tackle so called climate change? Putin says “that Russia and the US have “common interests” when it comes to combating climate change in a move to team up against global warming, and the pair agreed to work together to improve the situation”. Could those common interests be a NWO? I can’t see it being anything else going by what’s been happening over the past 2 years with the way the pandemic has arrived to the scene.

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      TdeF

      The Russians would love a warmer climate! There is a reason most of Russia is uninhabited.

      For Putin it’s about the massive income the Russians can generate from their gas pipelines, especially Nordstream.
      And that in turn is about CO2 per Btu. Incidentally note that evil German and Victorian ‘brown’ coal or lignite is almost identical to high quality ‘black’ coal in CO2 per unit energy.

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      William Astley

      The Russians are predicting record cold in Siberia and … …Twice as much snow as average.
      The extra snow cover causes significant regional cooling which will adversely affect Chinese crops and cause extreme climate events in China. This specific climate change has happened before.

      The sudden in the Northern hemisphere is caused by consequences of the sudden and direct movement of the North geomagnetic pole out of the Canadian archipelagois and is now on its way to Siberia.

      For the climate in the Northern hemisphere (and Southern hemisphere) the location of the geomagnetic pole physically controls the location of the polar vortex because the geomagnetic pole is a location very high GCR. The polar vortex changes results in climate change amplification (in the paleo record and now it is starting to happen in the same locations).

      Imagine a large circulating vortex. The North polar vortex location has now moved so that it is now (this year starting…. and this exact change is the paleo record … no explanation) so that it created summer storms over Greenland last summer. The persistent summer storms over the Greenland Ice Sheet caused significant cooling on the Greenland Ice Sheet and large snowfall events.

      In Siberia the change in the location of the polar vortex causes spring storms over Siberia which causes cooling in that region, and causes an increase in snow cover that causes colder springs and a delay in melting (which amplifies the change).due to the delay in melting. This is a large area.

      This paper was written in 2010. At that time the North geomagnetic pole was moving 55 km/year. It is now moving at 83 km/year.
      What Caused Recent Acceleration of the North Magnetic Pole Drift?

      http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1029/2010EO510001/pdf

      The north magnetic pole (NMP) is the point at the Earth’s surface where the geomagnetic field is directed vertically downward. It drifts in time as a result of core convection, which sustains the Earth’s main magnetic field through the geodynamo process. During the 1990s the NMP drift speed suddenly increased from 15 kilometers per year at the start of the decade to 55 kilometers per year by the decade’s end.
      This acceleration was all the more surprising given that the NMP drift speed had remained less than 15 kilometers per year over the previous 150 years of observation. Why did NMP drift accelerate in the 1990s?

      https://blogs.sas.com/content/graphicallyspeaking/2020/01/31/magnetic-north-moved-50-miles-last-year-lets-map-it/
      Magnetic north moved 50 miles last year (let’s map it!)

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      Tilba+Tilba

      From the same TR link:

      Russia’s president, Vladimir Putin, said earlier this year that a series of increasingly extreme weather events, including devastating wildfires and floods, are “at least to a large extent due to global climate change in our nation.” Putin also told US climate envoy John Kerry that Russia and the US have “common interests” when it comes to combating climate change in a move to team up against global warming, and the pair agreed to work together to improve the situation.

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        clarence.t

        Putin is playing games with John Kerry, and Kerry is dumb enough to believe what was said.

        It would be a race between Kerry and Biden as to which is most unaware of what is going on around him. !

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    Lawrie

    Much as I prefer warm weather I am praying for a cold Northern Winter. The plebs will not rise up until enough of them are lying shivering in their beds. I know that sounds mean but the climate warriors have made life miserable for everyone else since this economic reset began. Not until there is real suffering will politicians realise their ineptitude. It is coming and hopefully it will arrive soon- in Glasgow preferably.

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      Geoffrey+Williams

      Indeed, Glasgow in October could be interesting . .
      GeoffW

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        PeterPetrum

        As a Glaswegian born Aussie who was at Uni over 4 October’s in Glasgow I can assure you that October is anything but interesting! However, this year ……..

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      Tilba+Tilba

      the climate warriors have made life miserable for everyone else since this economic reset began. Not until there is real suffering will politicians realise their ineptitude.

      The shortage of gas has been caused by bad economic planning – in other words a mix of raw capitalism, inept conservative governments, and Euro geopolitics. The pixies at the bottom of the garden have not caused it.

      And I do wish people would stop wishing cold and misery on the most vulnerable people – those least able to afford adequate gas and electricity in winter. Happens rather too often on here for my liking.

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        clarence.t

        If only they had stuck with the plant food producing, ultra-reliable coal, located under their very feed. As used the huge resevoirs of gas within the UK.

        Instead the greenie agenda got into their vacant skulls and made them destroy that reliability of local energy supplies.

        Now they are stuck with totally erratic wind and solar, reliance of power form underwater cables and gas from a country that could turn it off on a whim.

        I do wish the greenie agenda had considered the cold and misery they were bring to the most vulnerability people with their anti-science agenda.

        Happens all the time with the leftist agendas, always hurts those with least… by intent.

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    R.B.

    The canary on the coal mine has just done 100 push ups. Nothing to see, folks. Move along.

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    Geoffrey+Williams

    Antartic Winter coldest by 2.2 deg C below last 30 years average . .
    Well isn’t that what you would expect if man-made CO2 was warming the planet ?!
    No, not at all, and now the alarmist are doing back flips thro’ hoops to show otherwise.
    GeoffW

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      Forrest Gardener

      But Geoffrey, as everybody knows warming causes cooling, more rain, less rain, more wind, less wind, and Richmond’s failure to make the AFL finals. All clearly predicted after the event.

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      Gary S

      The stupidity is on full display in the latest propaganda T.V. advert for Volvo cars, where we see the highly surprised and alarmed muppet gazing in shock at the calving of massive chunks of ice from the snout of a glacier and pointing the finger at ‘climate change’. You would think that someone from Scandinavia might catch on that the phenomenon is actually a sign of a healthy glacier and that is how it is supposed to function – as a river of ice being pushed downhill by accumulating snow and ice at the top. A truly shrinking glacier would be retreating from the bottom.
      Anyone want to buy an electric Volvo?

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    Neville

    The UN Sec Gen now tells us that we must act on Climate Change or condemn humanity to a “HELLISH future”.
    What a pity he’s referring to their FANTASY world AGAIN and not the real planet Earth.
    Just LOOK up the DATA.
    Thanks again Jo for providing us with up to date data about the real planet Earth.
    Just leave their fantasy world to the world’s govts in a few weeks as they PREACH their Goldilock’s frolics in Glasgow COP 26.

    https://menafn.com/1102902640/UN-Chief-Warns-Of-Hellish-Future-Ahead-Of-Key-Climate-Summit

    “As well as progress on the three pillars of mitigation, finance and adaptation, we must finalize negotiations on the Paris rulebook – especially to break the deadlock on article 6 on carbon markets and the transparency framework. We have a few days here in Milan and a month of work ahead before Glasgow. I urge everyone to use them wisely and productively. Let us rebuild the trust that is needed to make COP26 a success for everyone. We have immense power. We can either save our world or condemn humanity to a hellish future. We must take the long view – and the moral high ground – so that this and future generations can look forward to peace, opportunity and dignity for all on a healthy planet. Thank you and I wish the best success to this Pre‑COP”.

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      David Maddison

      That’s a bit rich a UN clown telling us to follow him or we’ll have a “hellish future”. Following him will actually guarantee it.

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    Neville

    Willis also looked at the latest DATA from Greenland and Antarctica when he tried to discover their CLIMATE EMERGENCY.
    Don’t forget these two ICE deposits add up to 99% of our planet’s ice.

    https://wattsupwiththat.com/2021/04/25/wheres-the-emergency/

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    clarence.t

    ” We can either save our world….”

    By dropping all the anti-CO2 nonsense, drop unreliable power sources, that will pollute the landfills of the future and provide erratic non-electricity…

    or condemn humanity to a hellish future. “

    By continuing with our destruction of the world’s (except China) reliability of energy supply.

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      TdeF

      As I often write, it’s far worse than erratic power, it’s not commandable. A car which goes at the speed it decides and often not at all. Solar is guaranteed not to work for at least half the day and in winter in London, the days are only 8 hours, so a third of a day. Erratic is only half of the problem.

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    Alarmism is a language game:

    The crafty language of climate alarmism
    By David Wojick
    https://www.cfact.org/2021/10/04/the-crafty-language-of-climate-alarmism/

    The beginning:

    “I am constantly entertained by the artful ways alarmists bend language to their will. This often happens as science stories percolate through the media. Each step is a bit of a stretch, maybe not an obvious lie. But the sequence of stretches takes us so very far from the truth that we wind up in alarmville.

    We just had a beauty kicked off by the great green Washington Post. What makes this especially funny is they are reporting their very own research, so there is no question of misunderstanding it. Just stretching it bit by bit, here and there.

    The study itself is simple enough. When really bad, damaging weather hits it is normal to declare a federal disaster. This which allows Federal agencies to take certain actions, including loans and tax relief. This is done at the county scale. So WashPo looked at all of the disaster declarations in the last three months and determined the cumulative fraction of the US population that lived in those counties.

    Since some disasters, especially from hurricanes, cover more than one entire state, it is no surprise that this added up to about a third of the national population. So far so good. This is science of a crude sort, basically adding stuff up.

    The stretching begins when they report their study. First we get the headline, which is all that most people will read. Here is the main headline:

    “Nearly 1 in 3 Americans experienced a weather disaster this summer“

    This assumes that somehow every person living in every county “experienced” the local disaster. The number of people that physically experienced these disasters is actually quite small.

    In some cases, like flash floods, most of the county never knew it had happened until they heard the news. In the hurricane cases a lot of people were not there, while others simply watched it rain really hard. Losing electricity, while unpleasant, is hardly experiencing a disaster. Where I live it happens several times a year.

    I am not minimizing the tragic horrors that those who actually experienced these disasters went through. Just pointing out that they are nothing like 1 in 3 Americans.

    Then we get the sub-headline blaming climate change:

    “Climate change has turbocharged severe storms, fires, hurricanes, coastal storms and floods — threatening millions“

    “Turbocharged”? This is not science, just a meaningless metaphor. As such it is not quite a lie, just almost. There have been computer based attribution studies saying climate change might have had something to do with these disasters. But turbocharged sounds very impressive.

    Mind you “threatening millions” seems a bit odd, given we are talking about over 100 million people supposedly experiencing this stuff. Perhaps whoever wrote this never read the article. It happens.

    And wildfires are now weather. That is really stretching the word.”

    A lot more in the article. Please share it.

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      Neville

      Very good article David but I think you should include the global deaths from extreme weather events over the last 100 years.
      Willis, Dr Christy, Lomborg, Shellenberger, Koonin, Goklany etc often use the graph to support their claims. See Willis’ emergency link below.
      And I understand that USA tornadoes also show a lower trend since 1950.
      And global population in 1920 was just 1.8 bn and today is 7.8 bn people and deaths from extreme weather events have dropped by 95% since 1920s.
      Keep up your good work.

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      PeterS

      Yes, good article but you are still missing the bigger picture. It’s all over for now. They have won and moved on. Our leaders have committed themselves to the scam and there is nothing we can do about it apart from not electing them back into power, and that’s the real point. Either the public refute their claims and stop voting them, or keep voting them back in and stop complaining. We have the democratic right and power to put a stop to all this but sadly not enough voters seam to care, are clueless, don’t give a damn or in fact on the side of the scam. I suspect the last group, who are the hard core believers in the scam, are in the minority compared to the other types. So, how do we wake the rest up? We all have tried to spread the truth but it’s repeatedly being drowned out by the bigger voices of the MSM and big business. It sort of proves what I’ve been saying a long time; most people are too lazy to think for themselves to do their own research, and instead allow others to do the thinking for them. As a result they hear what our politicians and MSM say, and accept the BS. One way to turn things around is to change what the MSM are saying – fat chance! So, the only alternative left is to let it be and learn the hard way. The sooner the better.

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        PeterPetrum

        All very well, Peter, but as both major parties now support Net Zero 2050, who is there left to vote for? We’ll all be rooned.

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    Neville

    Modern Iceland’s temps are now the coldest for the last 8000 years, EXCEPT the LIA.
    But the modern temps are very cold and this is the case for the land and surrounding SSTs.

    https://notrickszone.com/2020/12/14/modern-icelands-climate-is-colder-with-more-ice-than-any-other-time-in-the-last-8000-years-except-the-1800s/

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    Kalm Keith

    Geology; the truth teller.

    Almost six decades ago before global warming, we had an excursion as part of our first year geology course.

    Standing on the ocean front rock platform we were told that the oceans had fallen four foot in the previous two thousand years. That’s a drop of 1.2 metres.

    In more recent reading it is shown that “sea level”™ has dropped by 4.2 metres minimum in the last seven thousand years, and possibly by up to six metres.

    It wasn’t a straight line fall, there were oscillations and small reversals but the down trend was undeniable.

    The focus on the temperature rise of the last two hundred years is disingenuous, to say the least, but it’s a minor anomaly in the overall picture. Despite this it is used to show “sea level rise” which in reality is an irrelevance and misleading.

    Obviously using sea levels as a proxy we can be sure that temperatures have dropped in the last seven thousand years.

    Fort Denison has shown that sea level change in recent times has been little more than natural fluctuations expected in a chaotic weather system and confirms stable sea levels.

    But for the IPCCCCC dodgy data and theatrical hysteria rules the waves.

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      David Maddison

      KK, see my reply to you below. It didn’t come out at the right place even though I refreshed the page immediately before posting.

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      David Maddison

      Kalm Keith, what was the status of plate tectonics when you did your studies? It wasn’t fully accepted until 1968 according to one writer although plenty of evidence was becoming available during and after the International Geophysical Year 1957-1958?

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        Kalm Keith

        Hi David, I only did one geology subject as part of the metallurgy degree.
        Our excursion leader was Beryl Nashar who was also the professor, which in those days meant head of the faculty.
        As to plate tectonics I don’t specifically remember anything.
        Between the geology course and second year physics which included a good deal of astronomy it was obvious that the Earth was a big ball of molten material inside and it was slowly cooling with associated messing around at the surface.

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      el+gordo

      Sea level has been dropping since the Holocene Climate Max and sometimes it falls dramatically, around 1300 AD there was a 70–80‐centimeter sea‐level fall.

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    David Maddison

    I remember when some anti-scientist was telling us that due to Global WarmingTM (as it was called before the marketing people changed it to Climate ChangeTM) in just a few years Antarctica would be green and the only habitable place in earth.

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      Greg in NZ

      Sixty-below-zero Celsius… crack out the gin and tonics and put on yer shades – you can FEEEEEL the heat 😎

      Their BoM is calling for SNOW on Victoria’s hills today, Thursday, and all weekend: spring skiing anyone? Oh right, Dick Dantator has welded everyone’s front-door shut: don’t go outside, the freezing snow will burrrrrrn you…

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    David Maddison

    Kalm Keith, you were lucky to have done your geology course when real science was still being taught in universities. Back then universities used to teach existing knowledge and generate new knowledge, not destroy it and brainwash susceptible minds as they do now.

    I did similar field trips to you studying geology of the Sydney Basin and looking at features such as marine platforms, fossils (e.g. glossopteres, trilobites), coal measures, peat, road side cuttings showing faults and folding etc and even where an old copper mine once was in the 1880’s at Long Reef on the Northern Beaches (not kidding, most would be surprised).

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    Ronin

    When did they change from Global Warming to ‘climate change’, must have been about the time they realised the globe wasn’t warming.

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    Don+Vickers

    Sorry, little off topic but has anyone heard why WUWT has been offline for about a week?

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    sophocles

    Neville said: “What a pity he’s referring to their FANTASY world AGAIN and not the real planet Earth.”

    It takes time for changes in temperature trends to penetrate solid ivory. Remember: the Sec Gen is advised by the IPCC and they can’t be called “realistic.”

    I’m enjoying watching their beliefs heading even further from reality and the longer it takes to penetrate the more I’ll be enjoying it.

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      sophocles

      Sigh! the blog software bites again.

      … this was to Neville at #7.

      Love the blog software … ties my shoelaces together more and more often 😀

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    David Maddison

    ***Breaking*** Facebook is down with a major outage… Just sayin.

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    Neville

    There is NO HELLISH CLIMATE EMERGENCY and I couldn’t care less what the UN SEC GEN BELIEVES.
    Fortunately Dr Hans Rosling’s BBC 5 minute video dispels all the extremist’s fears and asks us to focus on his relevant 120,000 DATA points from 1810 to 2010.
    I know this video is anathema to the silly UN Malthusians, but that just proves that the real world DATA is correct. AGAIN.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jbkSRLYSojo

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    David Maddison

    Back in the day they used to know about the cyclic nature of climate and it was generally understood that we were coming to the end of the present Holocene interglacial period which starred 11,500 years ago. The party is over, the world is cooling and we won’t have any reliable energy to keep us warm in the West.

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      David Maddison

      Started not starred.

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      Simon

      Did you know that the climate is affected by the concentration of greenhouse gases in the atmosphere? I’m surprised that you don’t know this, the governing principles were well defined by the end of the 19th Century.

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        el+gordo

        That is only a theory which has come to prominence over half a century, but unfortunately carbon dioxide doesn’t cause warming in the real world environment. AGW is falsified and I’ll prove it.

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          Serp

          He’s having a laugh; ignore it.

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            el+gordo

            Simon fervently believes what he says and is on safe ground.

            ‘Each Australian state and territory was above average in September. All of them were more than a degree above the long-term norm, except for Tassie, which was only marginally warmer.’ (Weatherzone)

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        Did you know that you may be at least partly wrong ? 😀

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        Neville

        Simon can you show us the damage your so called global warming has caused since 1950 or 1970? Or since the start of the Ind REV if you prefer?
        Surely you can provide us with a list so we can check your DATA point by point?

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        Kalm Keith

        FactChekkd.
        No facts found.
        Passed for disregarding at 12:34 pm.

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        clarence.t

        “Did you know that the climate is affected by the concentration of greenhouse gases in the atmosphere?”

        H2O has some minor effect on the weather.

        CO2 does not.. If you think it does, produce the scientific evidence.

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        clarence.t

        The principle of “radiative gases” was discovered a couple.

        Proving that radiative gases in the atmosphere cause warming, is only a baseless non-scientific assumption.

        In fact , the increase in absorption by increased CO2 is proven by measurement to be channeled to the atmospheric window.

        https://i.postimg.cc/FRtCjkyG/Radiative-change.jpg

        And that OLR is only affected by the natural warming due to increased solar input.

        https://i.postimg.cc/76VcwYzV/OLR-increase.jpg

        https://i.postimg.cc/8PjKLB02/Solar-Activity-Proxies.png

        But we know you won’t let reality or facts get in the way of your non-science comments.

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        Tilba+Tilba

        Did you know that the climate is affected by the concentration of greenhouse gases in the atmosphere?

        Yes – I know that – you only have to stroll into a greenhouse in a cold city (Ballarat or Bendigo, say) in winter to understand how the greenhouse gas effect works. I’m surprised more people don’t realise this. Whatever.

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          clarence.t

          Really! now that’s just funny.

          You have just exposed how little you understand about anything to do with the so called “greenhouse” effect.

          A real greenhouse warms by blocking convective heat loss. You cool it down by opening the roof vents

          Atmospheric CO2 does not affect convection in any way whatsoever.

          The analogy between a physical “greenhouse” and the “greenhouse effect” is wrong from the very start. It is non-science.

          The only thing you can say about CO2 and actual greenhouses, is that CO2 is a gas used in greenhouses to enhance plant growth.

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      el+gordo

      There is talk that the Holocene should have ended by now, but the world has been saved by the Anthropocene (sic).

      The LIA should have continued into desertification and glaciation by now, except for human ingenuity.

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        Tilba+Tilba

        The LIA should have continued into desertification and glaciation by now, except for human ingenuity.

        So you’re conceding that CO2 emissions in the industrial era have caused Global Warming? Sure sounds like it. The challenge is to keep it under control without wrecking the world’s economies – when you have 7.8 billion people to feed and keep warm.

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          clarence.t

          They are certainly doing a bang-up job of wrecking the economies of countries stupid enough to go along with the AGW farce.

          The destruction of once-reliable electricity supplies is coming home to roost.

          Thank goodness China and India and many other countries continue to contribute to world supplies of atmospheric CO2..

          That allows for the ever increasing yield from crops to feed the world.

          And no, you are making silly, scientifically-unsupportable statements yet again

          CO2 does not contribute to atmospheric warming
          , there is no scientific evidence of that, just conjecture and models.

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    Ronin

    It seems even the Chinese aren’t immune to the idiots who run the place, industry shutting down, power cuts galore, people freezing in their homes.

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    Neville

    Here’s Dr Rosling’s TED talk where he tries to fight the global ignorance about GLOBAL health etc.
    It’s very funny and even his youngish audience laugh at their silly answers to his questions.
    Jo’s bloggers should be able to easily answer his questions correctly.
    Just watch the first few minutes, but first 8 minutes if you have the time.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sm5xF-UYgdg

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    el+gordo

    Our drift into the LIA is clearly visible in the Antarctic graph, approximately 1270 AD.

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    Neville

    Andrew Bolt interviews Daniel Fitzhenry about SLs since 1914 at Fort Denison Sydney.
    So where’s their DANGEROUS SLR over the last 107 years? So much for Antarctica+ Greenland MELTING scare over the last 117 years.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9mjOmsqIibk

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      Neville

      Sorry, the relevant time for Bolt’s interview of Fitzhenry above is August 2019.
      Therefore they are discussing 1914 to 2019 or the past 105 years.
      NOT 107 or 117 years, GRRRRR.

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    Uber

    Is it just me or did this winter on the east coast seem a lot more consistently cold than usual? There didn’t seem to be any letup from the cold, and even now in October we’re still struggling to find a ‘nice’ day that doesn’t end in strong winds.

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      Tilba+Tilba

      Is it just me or did this winter on the east coast seem a lot more consistently cold than usual?

      I don’t know whether you consider Melbourne “East Coast”, but we had a pretty mild winter, with no sub-zero temps, and only one or two of the lightest frosts. I thought it was wet though.

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      PeterPetrum

      Up here in the Blue Mountains it was 6C at 7:00am and only 10C now at 5:00pm. Not what you would call lovely spring weather.

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    Philip

    I don’t care if the earth heats up. Ecosystem functions will continue.

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    Explanation Type 1 – Model Driven Analysis:
    A colder South Pole is in full agreement with the radiative greenhouse gas hypothesis. There is a measured Negative Greenhouse Effect over Antarctica which means that as the CO2 levels rise in the atmosphere the winter thermal radiation to space becomes stronger and so the surface temperature falls.

    Explanation Type 2 – Data Driven Analysis:
    Demystifying the Atmospheric Greenhouse Effect: Toward a New Physical Paradigm in Climate Science
    By Ned Nikolov

    Comparison of mean annual surface temperatures between Antarctica and the Moon’s South Pole.
    The difference of about 144 Kelvin quantifies the thermal effect of the Earth’s atmosphere at the South Pole.

    Why is the Definition of the “Greenhouse Effect” Physically Meaningless?

    Make your choice: Politics or Science.

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    SimonB

    No surprise in the reaction from the cult, while they have a propaganda media on speed dial the actual facts won’t matter, that’s why we are spending trillions and our elected conservative government is going to circle jerks like cop26.
    It’s the same fear and scare which is allowing vaccines to be jammed into 98% of covid recovered Australians, just in case! We have lost our way and the koolaid is getting more tempting for people every day. Just to get along, of course, who wants to be the conspiracy nut sitting on a park bench, stood down from a job because they thought they had a right to individual choice and then to top it off they actually also think that a 4 deg warmer day is Armageddon, but a 4 deg cooler winter is a blip in the data? Our country is in massive trouble!

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    Carbon500

    The following was written by Alistair Fothergill in his book ‘Life in the Freezer’, published in 1993 before the current climate change hysteria. The foreward is by none other than Sir David Attenborough.
    ‘Beneath your feet at the South pole lie over 3000 metres (about 9800 feet) of ice, 4000 metres (13,123 feet) in parts, which rests not on the sea but on land. Antarctica is a frozen continent larger than Europe, larger even than the United States and Mexico combined. A massive icecap covers 98 percent of that land, swallowing a continent higher than any on Earth. The length of the polar winter night increases with latitude until at the pole itself, the sun sets just once a year. For a while after it disappears, the setting sun provides aglow above the horizon, and then leaves the polar world in complete darkness for half the year.
    The warmth the polar regions absorb in the summer is far less than the heat they lose in the winter. Only in November and December, the very height of the Antarctic summer, does the South pole actually gain heat. The Antarctic is much colder than the Arctic. The average winter temperature in the Antarctic is minus 60 degrees Celsius. Even on a good summer’s day it’s minus 30 degrees Celsius, colder than the coldest winter’s night at the North Pole. Antarctica is the highest continent on Earth, three times higher than any other.
    There are larger waves, stronger winds, and more powerful currents in the Southern Ocean than anywhere else on the globe. Icebergs are a real threat to shipping. At times they show up on the radar screen as hundreds of tiny white dots, which in reality could be an iceberg which could easily sink the largest vessel. It is absolutely essential to keep a lookout posted around the clock, and many captains prefer to avoid travelling at night whenever there are lots of icebergs about. On land, cold air from the high continental plateau rushes down the gradient to the sea causing katabatic winds. These can reach over 300 kilometres an hour and add terrifying windchill to the already freezing conditions.
    If you sail around Antarctica, you will see mainly white ice. Sometimes it towers over you as mighty ice shelves. Elsewhere great glaciers tumble into the ocean, calving off icebergs which make navigation very dangerous.’
    Fast forward to the present. Greenpeace on its website states that ‘… parts of the Antarctic are warming three times as fast as other parts of our planet. Scientists recently recorded its warmest day ever – a distinctly not-freezing 17.5°C’ and also that ‘Changing ocean temperatures are also important, because they warm the massive Antarctic glaciers from below, making them less stable.’
    Quite how changing ocean temperatures are warming the Antarctic glaciers from below given that the Antarctic is a land mass below ten thousand feet or so of ice is not explained – but then, who needs explanations, the scary story is what counts. And where exactly was the claimed temperature of 17.5 degrees measured, and under what circumstances? The British Antarctic survey states; ‘Around the coasts of Antarctica, temperatures are generally close to freezing in the summer (December-February) months, or even slightly positive in the northern part of the Antarctic Peninsula. During winter, monthly mean temperatures at coastal stations are between -10°C and -30°C but temperatures may briefly rise towards freezing when winter storms bring warm air towards the Antarctic coast. Conditions on the high interior plateau are much colder as a result of its higher elevation, higher latitude and greater distance from the ocean. Here, summer temperatures struggle to get above -20°C and monthly means fall below -60°C in winter. Vostok station holds the record for the lowest ever temperature recorded on the surface of the Earth (-89.2°C).
    Greenpeace also says that ‘ Glaciers form on the Antarctic landmass as snowfall compresses into ice over time, and they flow under their own weight towards the ocean – like a very slow river. But as these glaciers feel the heat of a warmer ocean underneath them, they speed up their slow march to the coast, causing big chunks of ice to break off into the sea as icebergs at a faster speed. The melting and break down of glaciers into the ocean raises sea levels all around the world. Antarctic glaciers are now losing ice faster than snow is falling to add new ice. The rate at which Antarctic ice sheets melt under increasing temperatures will affect coastal communities globally, whether living in small island states or mega-cities.’
    Yet there have clearly always been plenty of icebergs in the Southern Ocean. Greenpeace are yet again telling us fairy stories (to put it politely).

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      Lucky

      Greenpeace also says:

      Glaciers ‘speed up their slow march’ – referred to near the end-
      such an effect would be due to the weight of ice under pressure, thousands of metres of it, causing ice to turn into liquid at the bottom, not from heat coming from the warm ocean underneath. There is land underneath, not ocean.
      Greenpeace is wrong again.

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