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    dinn, rob

    3 timely articles:
    7-10-20  Yan had an extensive network of professional contacts in various medical facilities in mainland China, having grown up and completed much of her studies there.  She says that is the precise reason she was asked to conduct this kind of research, especially at a time when she says her team knew they weren’t getting the whole truth from the government.   One friend, a scientist at the Center for Disease Control and Prevention in China had firsthand knowledge of the cases and purportedly told Yan on Dec. 31 about human-to-human transmission well before China or the WHO admitted such spread was possible.
      She reported some of these early findings back to her boss, Yan said.  “He just nodded,” she recalled and told her to keep working.  A few days later, on Jan. 9, 2020, the WHO put out a statement:  “According to Chinese authorities, the virus in question can cause severe illness in some patients and does not transmit readily between people…There is limited information to determine the overall risk of this reported cluster.”
      That, of course, was a lie as Dr. Yan’s research was done for the university and the WHO.  After the January 9th announcement, her virology contacts who she had been talking about COVID with went quiet.  Some of them warned Yan not to ask about details.  https://lidblog.com/dr-li-meng-yan/
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    7-10-20    Yan said (Chinese) “”hospital doctors are scared, but they cannot talk.  CDC staff are scared.”  She said she reported her findings to her supervisor (Poon) again on Jan. 16 but that’s when he allegedly told her “to keep silent and be careful.  As he warned me before, ‘Don’t touch the red line,’” Yan said referring to the government.  “We will get in trouble and we’ll be disappeared.”
      The WHO has also denied that Yan, Poon or Peiris ever worked directly for the organization.  “Professor Malik Peiris is an infectious disease expert who has been on WHO missions and expert groups–as are many people eminent in their fields,” WHO spokeswoman Margaret Ann Harris said in an email.  “That does not make him a WHO staff member nor does he represent WHO.”…
      Yan decided to speak out against China; she discovered her life was apparently in jeopardy as well as that of those closest to her.
    It was a fear directly relayed to her and seemingly confirmed by U.S.-based Hong Kong blogger Lu Deh, she says.  https://www.foxnews.com/world/chinese-virologist-coronavirus-cover-up-flee-hong-kong-whistleblower  
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    Yan received her bachelor degree from Qufu Normal University and MD degree from XiangYa Medical College of Central South University, China, and her PhD from Southern Medical University, China….In July 2020 HKU said:  “Yan never conducted any research on human-to-human transmission of the novel coronavirus at HKU during December 2019 and January 2020, her central assertion of the said interview.  We further observe that what she might have emphasised in the reported interview has no scientific basis but resembles hearsay.”[22] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Li-Meng_Yan
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    Chinese consular missions in the United States, in sharp contrast, have been secured against U.S. counterintelligence monitoring, said China expert Mr. Tkacik….
      “At least since the 1980s, counterintelligence professionals and other national security experts have realized that the large number of Chinese intelligence officers operating in the United States under diplomatic cover simply overwhelms our relatively modest counterintelligence capabilities,” Mr. deGraffenreid said….
      China has been using its diplomatic outposts to conduct illegal operations that employ what the FBI calls “fox hunt” teams — groups of Chinese agents who harass and intimidate Chinese dissidents and others whom the regime perceives to be threats. https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2020/jul/28/us-china-standoff-trump-administration-order-reduc/
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    As a senior official at the Treasury Department*, which oversees CFIUS, put it: “Any time we see a company that has lots of data on Americans — health care, personal financial data — that’s a vulnerability.” When CFIUS was formed in the 1970s the companies safeguarding important technology were so large that any takeover attempt by foreigners would be certain to attract attention. Now much of the cutting-edge technology in the United States is in the hands of much smaller firms, including Silicon Valley startups that are hungry for cash from investors.
    The gap in oversight became a more urgent problem in 2015, when China unveiled its “Made in China 2025” strategy of working with private investors to buy overseas tech firms. A year earlier Chinese investments in U.S. tech startups had totaled $2.3 billion, according to the economic research firm CB Insights. Such investments immediately skyrocketed to $9.9 billion in 2015. These amounts dipped the following year, as the Obama administration voided a high-profile deal, but analysts say China’s appetite to buy U.S. firms and technology is still strong. In 2017 there were 165 Chinese-backed deals closed with American startups, only 12 percent less than the 2015 peak….
    Chinese investor-backed deals with U.S. tech startups jumped 185 percent from 2013 to 2015, though the cash influx has recently tapered off: in 2017, deals fell 12 percent from their 2015 peak. https://www.politico.com/story/2018/05/22/china-us-tech-companies-cfius-572413
    *almost always headed by a ery deep Wall Streeter

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    Jojodogfacedboy

    The charity business is getting a rude awakening now in Canada.
    In Canada, the Prime Minister is being caught giving almost a billion dollars to a charity scam where the two founders are pocketing 38 million from this and the charity is having a difficult time trying to explain it’s purpose. The Prime Minister and Finance Minister have family members receiving jobs or paid speaking engagements.
    Conflict of Interest would be the pure definition of what they are doing.
    Brings to question how many of these charity scams out there
    The charity also has many different companies and affiliations attach to the board of directors.
    This board of directors can be replaced at any time by the founding brothers as well. It is in their charter.

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    Rafe Champion

    CHOKE POINT BRIEFING NOTE NUMBER 2 FOUR ICEBERGS IN THE PATH OF THE RENEWABLE ENERGY TITANIC

    This will be sent to all Federal politicians and also NSW and QLD state members in the next day or two.

    They are not obliged to take any notice or reply because I am not in their electorate (I am in Zali Steggall’s electorate and I am exchanging notes with her chief of staff but don’t expect her to change her mind any time soon). So please feel free to get in touch with your local member, because they have to pretend to care about you, and ask if they appreciate the information in this briefing note!

    Purpose. To explain that the transition to renewable energy will be very difficult in Australia with existing storage technology

    Background. All the major parties are in favour of increasing the supply of electric power from wind and solar energy.

    Critical Issues.

    Four features of the Australian situation will make the RE transition very difficult and maybe impossible with existing storage technology.

    1. Wind droughts. There are frequent and prolonged “wind droughts” when there is next to no wind across SE Australia for many hours and even days at a time.

    2. The “choke point” factor. The grid needs a continuous input of power and the critical value of the input from intermittent sources is the lowest level. The RE transition is limited by the lowest points in the supply of wind, not the installed capacity, the high points or the average performance of the wind fleet.

    3. Australia is an island. Almost every other place in the developed world has access to neighbours to supply power from many sources when domestic RE is in short supply.

    4. The Chief Scientist has advised strongly that batteries do not have the capacity to store the amount of power required to even out the peaks and troughs in the supply of wind and solar power.
    Recommendation.

    That these critical issues be discussed in the party rooms, in the media and among the general public.


    SUPPORTING INFORMATION

    Wind Droughts.

    Records from the Australian Energy Market Operator (AEMO) show the amount of wind power delivered to the grid from every wind farm in SE Australia. Every month there are periods when the input is less than 10% of the installed capacity of the wind fleet and the input can fall below 2%.

    In June there were three long periods with the wind fleet under 10% of capacity – 33 hours between the 5th and 6th, 18 hours on the 11th and 16 hours on the 17th.

    The lowest points during those periods were 3.4%, 1.1% and 2.3% for the whole system.

    Individual states experienced long periods at zero or even negative numbers when the turbines drained power from the grid instead of contributing to it.

    The source https://anero.id/energy/wind-energy

    Real time http://www.nem-watch.info/widgets/reneweconomy/

    The choke point factor.

    This is a shorthand term to summarize the fact that the grid needs to receive enough input to supply 100% of demand 100% of the time. We are in the same situation because we need a continuous supply of air to our lungs. If the supply is cut off by choking or drowning, we are dead in a few minutes.

    At present wind droughts do not threaten to choke the electricity supply because we have enough conventional power to provide all our needs. This situation will change when more coal-fired power stations are closed, starting with Liddell in NSW in 2023.

    Isolation from neighbours. As an island nation we do not have neighbours to assist with power when we have a wind drought. All the European nations and the states in the US can tap into massive continental grids with input from all the different sources of power including nuclear energy.

    Wind power in Denmark can supply almost all their electricity on windy days but over the year they import almost half of their power. Similarly Germany can produce up to 70% of their electricity from wind power but over the year the average capacity factor of their 28,000 turbines is less than 20% and they recently opened a new coal mine to cover the impending closure of their nuclear facilities.

    Limited capacity of batteries.

    Batteries like the Elon Musk Tesla facility in South Australia are supposed to even out the peaks and troughs in the supply of wind and solar power but the Chief Scientist Dr Alan Finkel issued a very clear statement that conventional power will be required to support additional solar and wind power because “…Maybe 20 or 30 years from now we’ll have new kinds of batteries, vastly powerful, more extensive batteries and we can do it with batteries.” https://www.pv-magazine-australia.com/2020/05/28/chief-scientist-says-big-batteries-are-not-ready-to-fast-track-energy-transition/

    The capacity of the Tesla batteries is too small compared with the demand from the grid to count as storage. Household batteries can be called storage because they permit more or less normal use of electrical appliances for a day or two depending on the size of the battery and the number of appliances in use.

    Moore’s law does not apply to energy. When people first started to talk about using batteries to support intermittent power there was a general expectation that the storage capacity would expand in the way that data storage increased by “Moore’s Law” – doubling every couple of years. This will not happen due to the fundamental difference between storing electronic data and storing energy.

    The Musk battery attached to the Hornsdale No 3 wind farm occupies a hectare, with a capacity of 109MWhrs and a $60Million price tag. The demand for power in SA ranges from 8000 MW to 2500MW and the 109MW that the battery can deliver for one hour is negligible by comparison. It is not even regarded as storage, it is used to stabilize the supply from one wind farm for a few minutes while gas turbines pick up the load when the wind dies.

    Recommendation 1: This this information be filed for reference when RE becomes a live issue again after the pandemic.

    2. That everyone monitors the state of the wind supply.

    YOU TOO CAN BE A WINDWATCHER

    The information on wind resources in this brief should not be controversial because it is readily available on the site of the Australian Energy Marketing Authority (AEMO) and in a processed form on the Aneroid site and the Nem-Watch Widget.

    Anyone can access these sites to become a windwatcher in their own right and monitor the wind supply daily or even minute by minute.

    The Nem-Watch Widget conveys the nationwide situation at a glance. http://www.nem-watch.info/widgets/reneweconomy/

    The length of the bars signals the amount of generation in each state and the green segments show how much the wind is contributing at the time. The cursor can be moved along the bars to find the precise value for each contributor (48MW for Wind in Victoria in the example shown). The total for the state can read on a scale below the bars (6,271MW) and the Demand is show at the bottom of the table (7046MW).

    For the situation in SE Australia (the NEM) see the AEMO Data Dashboard and the Aneroid site that draws on it to provide a rolling 24-hour picture. Also be sure to visit the site of Tony from Oz to see how a real wind watcher does it. See the link below!

    The Data Dashboard https://aemo.com.au/en/energy-systems/electricity/national-electricity-market-nem/data-nem/data-dashboard-nem

    The Dispatch Summary indicates the amount of demand and generation in each state. It also shows the amount of power flowing across state boundaries. It is updated at five-minute intervals.

    The Fuel Mix is particularly interesting but it lags by a day or more so you don’t get to see the contribution of the different sources at the present time until tomorrow or the next day.

    Rooftop solar does not register in the fuel mix because the rooftops are not connected to AEMO data base like the registered generators and that means a lot of the power generated on rooftops during the day is invisible on the display.

    Be warned that the AEMO fuel mix shows wind is the blue band at the top and hydro is a green band lower down. The Aneroid display shows the wind in green and the hydro in blue.
    Aneroid Energy https://anero.id/energy

    The entry page of the Aneroid site is a rolling 24 hour display showing the sources of supply in various categories – coal, gas, water, wind and sun. It shows the daily demand cycle with twin peaks at breakfast and dinnertime.

    On the entry page are buttons to access more detailed information about each source. Windwatchers of course go straight to https://anero.id/energy/wind-energy

    This shows the supply of wind with a rolling 24-hour display. There are buttons to access the % of installed capacity and the volume (MW). There are figures for each state and there are displays for whole months and an archive for past days and months.

    Tony from Oz is a veteran wind watcher and he has provided an introduction to the displays on the Aneroid site. https://papundits.wordpress.com/2018/05/13/australian-daily-electrical-power-generation-data-introduction-with-permanent-link-to-daily-and-weekly-posts/

    He also provides daily and weekly summaries of the power situation.

    https://papundits.wordpress.com/2019/07/22/australian-daily-electrical-power-generation-data-sunday-21st-july-2019-plus-weekly-and-rolling-totals/

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    Jojodogfacedboy

    I think my “common-sense” is broken.
    The Toronto Mayor has the city locked down for 3 months with no parks or any recreation open and fines for anybody breaking this law. He is now paying 2 million for youth crisis councillors all across the city for increased youth violence. As the city parks are now being reopened.
    Not allowing youth to burn off energy will create all sorts of problems and now he feels that counselling will cure the violence.

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      OriginalSteve

      Well its a simple tactic…put pressure on a population, wait for the explosion of frustation, then use the force you needed an excuse to use, to crush “dissent”…..

      Canadas main problem sounds like its govt…..

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      Bulldust

      Not to mention that going outdoors is vital for vitamin D generation, which is critical in fighting the CCP virus.

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    Travis T. Jones

    Carbon (sic) induced drought food shortage update:

    Aussie “mid-season crops..as lush as some industry veterans can remember.

    “Just months after rains broke Australia’s crippling three-year drought, fields of grain have sprung to life, lifting forecasts for a bumper wheat harvest and reviving the beaten up agricultural sector through roaring tractor sales and increased lending.

    “I moved here 30 years ago, and I’ve never seen it this good. It is magnificent. It is wheat, barley, everywhere as far as your eye can see”

    https://www.reuters.com/article/us-health-coronavirus-australia-wheat/australia-hopes-for-magnificent-wheat-crop-in-pandemic-economy-idUSKCN24U14C

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      RickWill

      Just months after rains broke Australia’s crippling three-year drought, fields of grain have sprung to life,

      Has anything changed?
      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o5bNhQrKay0

      Core of my heart, my country!
      Land of the Rainbow Gold,
      For flood and fire and famine,
      She pays us back threefold -
      Over the thirsty paddocks,
      Watch, after many days,
      The filmy veil of greenness
      That thickens as we gaze.

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        glen Michel

        Great wheat crop up here in NW NSW. Canola and dry land cotton too. Just about a cert for the wheat – only a heavy frost September will bring it down. Lots of long,dry grass will pose a threat in summer
        Fires being a risk.

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          Another Ian

          South west Qld is still awaiting the BOM’s wet winter.

          But now it seems we’re in for a wet spring.

          (/s)

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    David Maddison

    A US Congressman had a live press conference with about a dozen medical doctors from all over the US who were advocating for hydroxychloroquine, zinc and azithromycin administered exactly as per the Zelenko protocol (as soon as early stage C-19 infection is suspected) or for prophylaxis.

    The interview immediately went viral on Facebook and was censored there and Twitter and YouTube. President Donald Trump had three Tweets referring to it censored. Donald Trump Jr also had his Twitter account suspended and his comments deleted.

    It’s extremely concerning how the Marxist legacy media and social media are censoring the opinion of qualified medical doctors. Others might not agree with their views but medical doctors have a variety of different opinions on most drugs and treatments. And who are media censors to decide if they’re wrong or not?

    The Left’s censorship of science that doesn’t fit their narrative is a familiar story to us all, and most recently for us, Prof. Ridd’s story. The Marxists are against the Zelenko protocol because Trump’s experts advocated for it for further investigation and the great man himself took it.

    No clinical trial has yet tested the Zelenko protocol exactly even though it is seemingly a very simple trial. All trials involving HCQ have been sabotaged by either way to late administration (it is almost useless once the infection develops in lungs), an inappropriately high toxic dose of HCQ or no zinc. It is intended for early stage infection immediately upon suspicion of infection or for prophylaxis.

    References:

    https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2020/07/28/donald-trump-defends-censored-doctors-for-recommending-hydroxychloroquine/

    https://www.breitbart.com/tech/2020/07/27/facebook-censors-viral-video-of-doctors-capitol-hill-coronavirus-press-conference/

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      RickWill

      No clinical trial has yet tested the Zelenko protocol exactly even though it is seemingly a very simple trial

      There are retrospective studies like the linked one that show it reduces mortality by about 50% if given early in the progression of the infection:
      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WZq-K1wpur8

      HCQ and zinc are certainly being used by clinicians otherwise they would not be able to produce these retrospective results. Interestingly this HCQ/zinc protocol had no benefit on those in ICUs.

      It appears that treatment protocols have improved because the death rate is reducing. Dexamethasone results in about a 30% reduction in mortality.

      I wonder why this Tea Party sponsored group is being so heavily censored. The GP from Texas is only stating what she has experienced and it sort of matches what the controlled studies are achieving; albeit she might be overstating the benefit based on her very small sample. No deaths in 300 patients is about what Australian hospitals are achieving now. Maybe better than that in Sweden.

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        David Maddison

        It is a two stage disease. 1) A relatively simple viral infection treatable with the Zelenko protocol. 2) If not treated early an extremely serious second stage with lung infection and a deadly “cytokine storm”.

        Sadly the Zelenko protocol for Stage 1 is mostly ignored.

        Once people are in ICU it is too late for HCQ and different protocols are required.

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      TedM

      I no longer use google to search for anything relevant to HCQ. I use duckduckgo.

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        OriginalSteve

        Agreed.

        Gurge is fine for commercial stuff, but if you sctually want a non-woke/non censoring seach engine, duckduckgo is thd go.

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          OriginalSteve

          This is an interesting article – covid as trauma based mind control.

          It fits. May also explains why info on cause of deaths is being with held.

          This article even mentions the MSM flooding of peoples minds with the message to be absorbed.

          Teminds me of the scene in The Matrix about the red/blue pill option……

          https://blog.nomorefakenews.com/2020/07/27/covid-trauma-based-mind-control/

          “The government and media messaging about the “pandemic” was immediate, and it was launched as a wall-to-wall campaign. News reports, ads, public service announcements, talk shows, newspaper articles, press conferences, etc.

          No room was permitted for counter-opinion and evidence or intelligent discussion and debate. The messaging flood plays a major role in the trauma effect.

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            OriginalSteve

            7th para needs quotes

            “No room was permitted for counter-opinion and evidence or intelligent discussion and debate. The messaging flood plays a major role in the trauma effect.

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        yarpos

        Mmmm, similar except I dont limit is to HCQ. I no longer use google to search for anything.

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    David Maddison

    Another pre-existing approved drug that shows promise in in-vitro tests for COVID-19 activity.

    Fenifibrate is an approved anti-cholesterol drug.

    It will have a fair chance of being investigated further as long as President Trump doesn’t mention it.

    “Study finds fenofibrate may downgrade Covid-19 to common cold level”

    https://www.pharmaceutical-technology.com/news/study-fenofibrate-covid-19/

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      Lucky

      Chance of further investigation is low. No big money in it for Big Pharma.
      They will only support trials designed to fail, denigrate proper researchers, and get news of any competitor to vaccines suppressed. There are almost no large independent testing agencies as the major labs, institutes and universities are dependent on Big Pharma money.

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    Another Ian

    ‘Hump Day Hilarity – BANNED by Big Tech”

    https://wattsupwiththat.com/2020/07/29/hump-day-hilarity-banned-by-big-tech/

    Comments like a bad wheat crop IMO – some grains, much chaff

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    David Maddison

    Conservative fight back time!

    In the US there is a new job website for companies that wish to hire people for their job-related skills, not their woke political activism. How unique!

    https://www.unwoke.hr/

    Hire thinkers.
    Not activists.
    Hire courageous, free thinking and freedom loving individuals. Not ideologues whose only agenda is to weaponise your brand and business to further a radical cause.

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      PeterS

      We need one here in Australia. Also one that doesn’t use age discrimination. In spite of it being illegal, it’s rampant and out of control. It’s part of a woke culture that started a long time ago.

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      Analitik

      Watch out for news reports about them being besieged by activists…

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      Another Ian

      Years ago Mad Magazine ran a series on “You have arrived when -”

      Examples I remember are

      “you can afford to leave your Ferrari out in the rain”

      And, related to this,

      “you can afford to hire an efficient secretary to get the work done”

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    David Maddison

    From all the claims of economic depression, this certainly doesn’t apply to the building trades. I am currently renovating a house and most tradesmen seem far to busy to be interested in taking on any new work. I’m finding difficulty even finding someone to do a small quick paving job of just 2.4m x 3.9m. (In Melbournistan.)

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      David Maddison

      *too busy, no to…

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      RickWill

      All the apprentices are home “sick” getting paid more than they would on the job. That means the tradesmen are no longer supervising but actually having to do physical work. It is a tough calling these days in times of intense money creation.

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        David Maddison

        One of my tradesmen failed to turn up for a job. When I called to ask where he was he told me he didn’t feel like working now and had decided to take time off and get paid with the Jobkeeper allowance (for doing nothing) which even self-employed people can get if they can navigate the system…

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          GD

          the Jobkeeper allowance (for doing nothing) which even self-employed people can get if they can navigate the system…

          I was surprised to hear this from colleagues in the music industry. I had thought that self-employed musicians and entertainers would register for Jobseeker, but apparently, as you say, if navigated carefully, the higher Jobkeeper payment is available to the self-employed.

          Presumably, people under the Jobkeeper scheme are to be recalled to work when the business is once again viable.

          For those self-employed people who qualified for Jobkeeper, who decides when their business is once again viable?

          Could they simply sit out on Jobkeeper until the scheme ends?

          Nice work if you can get it.

          (Almost unrelated link with beautiful music from Tony Bennett and Diana Krall.)

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    Reed Coray

    Is anyone else experiencing long “access times” (and I mean on the order of minutes) to either Jo’s blog as a whole or to individual threads/thread comments? It is getting frustrating.

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      David Maddison

      Yes. I thought it was just me… It is indeed frustrating.

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      RickWill

      Last post took 4:40, to be precise. It seems to go faster if you look at a second tab while a comment is uploading. Although I have not actually timed the difference.

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      JanEarth

      Yes yes yes

      Glad its not just me. No matter what browser it is I am using it takes ages to load a page on this site…10 minutes plus. So bad this morning I thought the site was offline.

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        Ted O'Brien.

        Was always a bit slow here. But nothing was ever fast. At long last the NBN has arrived, so in a few days I hope to waste less time waiting.

        I have always wondered if the system might be loaded against Apple gear. You would think nobody would be silly enough to not service the iPad. Until you looked around, that is.

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      Kalm Keith

      Yeeees.

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      Graeme No.3

      Yes. Extremely slow this morning (404 error or blank screen). I thought it might have been because I changed my search engine (away from Google). Slow getting in this afternoon.

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      Hasbeen

      Yes ,me too, for about the last 40 hours.

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      Yes, I’ve noticed that too and it seems to be the connections to vocus.com.au where all the delay is coming from. The traceroute packet delay jumps from less than 20ms to over 200ms from multiple ISP’s routing across both the Pacific and the Atlantic.

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    PeterS

    Jo, lately your site is very slow more often than not. Is your site suffering a cyber attack?

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      Chad

      Jo site is always the slowest to load or refresh…..always…of all the sites i use,..thats normal !
      …BUT today is 10+times slower still, !
      I actually set it to reload and went to make breakfast whilst it loaded this page.
      Now i dread what the uoplad will be like ?
      What is going on ?..obviously a inherent site design problem.

      [Yes its bad this morning Chad , out of our control at the moment but is being worked on.]AD

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      Chad

      ?? Hmm ?
      Yes 10x slower than its normally “Rediculously slow” load time.
      Managed to make breakfast , and 2 cups of espresso, whilst waiting for page to load !
      I guess i can prep lunch ( and eat it ?). Before this message uploads .

      PS.. this is the second reply attempt….the first eventually loaded, but then disapeared the next time the page refreshed ??
      WTF ??

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    MP

    This is being proposed by the Vic Gov while everyone is under house arrest.

    https://engage.vic.gov.au/lgbtiqstrategy

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      David Maddison

      I couldn’t believe this “trigger warning”:

      We appreciate that this content may trigger distress for some readers. To seek support please contact Switchboard on 1800 184 527 or:

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      GD

      At the head of the page it states:

      Department of Premier and Cabinet.

      So this is what Andrews and his cronies have been doing lately?

      Meanwhile, back in April, with the nation already two months into the pandemic, the Victorian Health Minister was busy writing about ‘climate change’.

      His report was published in May.

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        yarpos

        and who could forget the Deputy Medical Officer lecturing us about Capt Cook and the plight of indigenous peoples

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    robert rosicka

    New record for Victoriastan with a doubling from yesterday .

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      Speedy

      It can’t be too long before Chairman Dan resigns, eh? Just after the apology, I guess. But perhaps he got distracted by more important things, such as the Belt and Road Initiative with the CCP?
      The man’s a menace to society.

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        stevem

        There’s no way he can resign. He’ll have to see it through before they’ll give him the boot and get to use the buzz words about how there a fresh face and new priorities and invigorated leadership and such like. They won’t risk smearing a new leader while the old one can be blamed.

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      RickWill

      My wife predicted this and it was just a simple matter of allowing 3 days for results from the record 43k COVID tests carried out on Monday.

      I was more hopeful that the 500+ was the top but Monday was a massive day for testing; probably related to the situation in aged care homes.

      The Queensland visitors who came to Melbourne for their shoplifting spree give some idea how widely spread it is through a certain group of recent immigrants in Melbourne.

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    Cracking good day in Melbourne today – blue sky and sunshine. The sun is getting closer to Earth by about 20,000km per day now, and its declination is moving south at around 15′ per day.

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      GD

      I hear you, David. The last couple of days in Geelong have been glorious. I did some bike riding to Eastern Beach and the Barwon River. Absolutely breathtaking. People out and about, enjoying life, and then came the announcement from Chairman Dan:

      “Back to lockdown, stop enjoying your life.”

      I was invited to a dinner this Friday at the next-door neighbour’s home. The gentleman, who turned 83 yesterday knocked on my door today to inform me that sadly, I am not allowed to visit him and his wife for the time being.

      It was only yesterday, that a group of my neighbours, in the open air and socially distanced, were saying that wasn’t it wonderful that Geelong wasn’t included in the Melbourne lockdown.

      What a difference a day makes.

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    Analitik

    Great presentation about proper scientific discussion, focusing on Greta Thunberg’s misconceptios, by Willie Soon – the phrase “scientism” (using scientific terms to justify a position without really understanding) is terrific

    https://youtu.be/Me3aPGRfRgg

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      Serp

      Fascinating that twenty-eight minutes into his talk when he asks what is the amount of oxygen in the air and waits answer came there none; the composition of air was basic science back in the day but, alas, no more.

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    dinn, rob

    get this one: author David Talbot on Allen Dulles and JFK–most excellent video; try at 19 minutes in; don’t miss at 50-52 minutes into video
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ujlZpdGnP4k
    recorded Oct 22, 2015

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    Crakar24

    USA doc puts up video about how good malaria drug is for covid , video taken down within a day but fraudulent study endorsed by WHO still remains. TDS is now killing people.

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    dinn, rob

    at 19 minutes of video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ujlZpdGnP4k
    David Talbot, author, on Allen Dulles and JFK; don’t miss at 50-52 minutes as well; very crucial

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    Chad

    Im wondering what motivates news editors to prioritise and promote certain items ..
    2GB ( Channel 9 ?) news this morning , reported that the AEMO had predicted that Australia could have 100% renewable electricity supply within 15 years ….
    Laughable , even on face value, but more so when you realise that prediction was made by the AEMO back in 2012 ! ..
    So why has someone decided to resurrect it today ?

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      Graeme No.3

      Also similar in The Australian today.

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      robert rosicka

      I see the largest windfarm in Queensland has not produced any power for a week , reported by the Cairns post but behind paywall .

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      Another Ian

      A good night to bring up

      https://anero.id/energy

      bring up the “Day’s energy production ” graph

      Tick “Total”, then untick all but “Solar”, “Wind” and “Rooftop solar”

      And have a look at what choke points do to the “Great Renewable Dream”

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      yarpos

      The next big IPCC meeting is coming up in a few months, with the inevitable predictions of unprecedented tipping point doom of various sorts. The climate alarm pace will steadily ramp up in the MSM as we approach the conference date. Stories like this will appear, the ABC has ramped sea level stories lately , I expect Greta and the rest of the alarmist elite will rise to prominence again over the coming months to ride the wave.

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    Murray Shaw

    HCQ banned for use in Victoria for a further three months. This product has shown beneficial results from early use, and no toxic effects using the 400mg a day dosage.
    Why the Anti-HCQ stance from the Left and the Dems in the US.
    Oh, that’s right, Donald Trump said it needed looking at!

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      David Maddison

      I thought that sort of thing was regulated by the Feds, not the State Government. But they do make it up as they go…

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      Serp

      What happened to Palmer’s shipment? https://www.miragenews.com/palmer-buys-32-900-000-doses-of-hydroxychloroquine-for-australians/ Since when have quacks had the Victorian government overseeing their treatment decisions?

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        TedM

        From Serp’s link: “On the 2 April 2020, Australia’s Minister for Health, Greg Hunt announced hydroxychloroquine would be made available if doctors wish to use it to treat COVID-19 patients who are in Australian hospitals”.

        So it’s only available to hospitalised patients, when all the positive observational studies of which there are now many, say that it should be given at the first sign of symptoms. Is this just another attempt to reduce the effectiveness of HCQ in a study? I also suspect that Dr.s will be hesitant to use it because of the negative press and what I consider to be fra*dulent studies that appear to be deliberate attempts to debunk it.

        I just looked at the study in Brazil that concluded that HCQ did not improve outcomes for covid-19 patients. As I expected there was no zinc, and the HCQ dosage was at toxic levels. Fourteen times the dosage recommended by many of the Drs. that claim it has the potential to hugely reduce not only deaths but also hospitalisation.

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          Serp

          Thanks TedM. I hadn’t spotted that and I agree with your other observations.

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            Serp

            So, taking on board Michael Smith’s post mentioned by Beowulf, I had better not get crook before October 22nd when the banning of hydroxychloroquine expires in Victoria.

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    robert rosicka

    In just 15 years we will have 90% renewables powering the country ! , also worth a read is a link down the bottom about ” Solar Headwinds” which disagrees with AEMO from what I can see .

    https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-07-30/australian-energy-market-operator-report-renewables-power/12507384

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      TedM

      On which day of which year is renewable energy supposed to do this, and for just how much of that day.

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      PeterS

      In 15 years I doubt anyone will care. No doubt there will be far more important issues, such as trying to dig ourselves out of a depression.

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    robert rosicka

    Just to prove how brainwashed the left are I have someone claiming on Facebook that all windfarms pay for themselves in the first year of operation .

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      Or how brainwashed the right is assuming that everyone who is either stupid or holds an opposing view is to the left.

      Maybe show us this quote in context to make yours a less than vapid comment.

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        OriginalSteve

        Leaf, often the Left is stupid, it just cant see it, which is tragic really….and they get upset when it gets pointed out….

        * Climate Change
        * Wind farms

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          David Maddison

          I’d say a majority of Leftists are stupid and naive, except for their Elite leaders who are smart but evil.

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            Kalm Keith

            That’s a good view point describing the led and the manipulators.

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            OriginalSteve

            I would agree with that

            Being that bad is a deliberate, evil act.

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              PeterS

              Evil is correct. Otherwise how else would one describe a group that hates the West so much they want to tear it down? If a foreign country tried to do the exact same thing we would declare war and shoot them. Go figure.

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                el gordo

                Somebody on Facebook said ‘ … all windfarms pay for themselves in the first year of operation.’

                True of false? I want to see links to support the proposition.

                All this nonsense about the evil left is so last century, in the new world order the waters are muddied.

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                robert rosicka

                Enel Green power is the Facebook page .

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        robert rosicka

        Ahh leaf talking about the left , context was me rubbishing renewables using AEMO facts and figures plus snippets from Rowjay and Tony from Oz which show how unreliable renewables are but focused on Nameplate .
        Someone by the name of Philip hit back with that exact comment and the fact you’re annoyed by it either means you agree with Philpot or your mad your green dream can’t power Australia in any meaningful way .

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          AndyG55

          That’s what is so “goofy” about this whole “renewable” garbage.

          The data, the reality, the lack of performance for large percentages of the time, all point to the fact that they are the ultimate waste of time and money, but the greenies and other far-leftist drones just continue to pretend.

          Quite bizarre really, and shows a weird and almost complete lack of any rational thought process.

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        Kalm Keith

        I agree with you Gee Aye.

        There has to be another descriptor; The Left is so charged it has become meaningless.

        The Right, and so on, are just blunt instruments because they don’t fully describe the full picture.

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        AndyG55

        Poor Gee-aye, Your views are not so much stupid, but just empty blah !

        Meaningless prattle, at best.

        And totally unbacked by anything approaching reality.

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        robert rosicka

        Big difference between “Stupid” and “Brainwashed” Gee Aye , for instance I consider you brainwashed not stupid !

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      Peter Fitzroy

      A new study published in the International Journal of Sustainable Manufacturing looks at the cumulative energy payback of 2-megawatt wind turbines that are used in the Pacific Northwest, precisely calculating the lifecycle energy required for manufacturing, installation, maintenance, and turbine end-of-life processing, and looking at how that stacks up against energy production over the life of the turbines (a working life of 20 years or more is not unusual). The payback for the associated energy use is within about 5-8 months, and even in the worst case scenario, lifetime energy requirements for each turbine only takes 1 year of operation. So for the next 19 years, each turbine will, in effect, power over 500 households without consuming electricity generated using conventional energy sources, and if the turbines end up operating for over 20 years, that’s just a bonus.

      So according to the above journal 1 year is correct

      However, the actual capacity factor as recorded by the EIA (and this data is in the USA) is 36% (average for July 2019-June 2020)

      So with rounding it would take 3 years to fully pay back the costs for a such a turbine.

      You are quite correct Robert, it is more than one year.

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        another study of one irish wind farm got 3.9 years.

        So, in conclusion: the facebook guy was a left wing brainwashed NJ nyah nyah ha ha look at how they are all wrong and we are right. Ha ha. They are so childish.

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          Kalm Keith

          What does that mean: could you translate that for us?

          Wind and solar, from an engineering point of view, are a sad misrepresentation of environmentalism.

          Scenario.
          We have a small isolated Bush town recently constructed which is to use only wind and solar power without any connection to the coal fired power grid.

          How much does the power cost?

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        David Maddison

        Good news indeed if true. So why do they need subsidies or other regulations preventing market forces from operating? Why can’t they operate in a free market competing with coal, gas, nuclear and traditional properly engineered hydro?

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          AndyG55

          Because the cost of integrating them into the grid is enormous, and they are quite often a non-productive element, meaning you have to have 100% back-up anyway.

          These costs are NEVER added into the “sustianability” calculations.

          ie .. its a CON !

          And there is absolutely zero need for wind in a gird situation…

          …. there is absolutely ZERO positive benefit.

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            John Watt

            So can anyone point us to a balanced real world study that considers the key variables….demand /supply for residential electricity, proper distinction between nameplate capacity vs actual supply of energy to meet real consumer needs,peak period battery back-up, location of viable wind farms vs location of consumers, country of manufacture of hardware…does Oz have the energy resources to power a wind turbine manufacturing industry etc. etc.

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              Kalm Keith

              Wind turbines produce variable DC power which is incompatible with industrial and household A.C. supply used in normal society.

              Wind turbines produce expensive DC power and have the very well hidden vlf pulsing issue which overrides the cns and induces all sorts of unpleasant outcomes for those in line. But, they’re expendable.

              KK

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          Peter Fitzroy

          There are some old ROI calculations which specify a 3 year payback with subsidies, and a 3.5 year payback without. However, as these are old studies, if you look at the changes in the manufacturing cost, and the associated changes in generation revenue, the ROI is looking closer to those figures I quoted at 23.2

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            David Maddison

            If the ROI is so good, why are subsidies and anti-competition regulations required? Let them operate in a free market with no forced purchases of their dirty, wildly fluctuating power.

            The reality is that the power is so useless that in a free market you’d have to pay to have the power taken away.

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              AndyG55

              Current renewable NON-contribution

              NSW: Wind 2%, solar ZERO

              Qld: Wind 1%, solar ZERO

              Vic: Wind 1%, solar ZERO

              SA: Wind 1%, Solar 1%

              Tas: an enormous 4% wind. !!

              It really is a POINTLESS form of non-energy !!

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          AndyG55

          Can’t find the link to the study at the moment..

          … but this gives an idea of the REAL cost of putting solar and wind into a grid. !!

          LCOE is enormous compared to coal. !

          And some explanation

          Cost of integrating wind and solar INCREASES as their share goes up.

          And let’s not forget all the social, environmental and health issues in third world countries associated with the mining and extraction of all the toxic chemicals required in the manufacture of wind and solar.

          But they don’t matter, does it….. they are somewhere else. !

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            robert rosicka

            Mentioned this further down the page that the largest windfarm in Queensland has not contributed anything to the grid for a week .
            Article is behind paywall at the Cairns post.

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        Rob Kennedy

        The Industrial Revolution was floated on the availability of cheap reliable power. When James Watt’s steam engine began powering factories those bloody useless windmills were abandoned because they were totally unreliable and therefore commercially unviable in the new economy. Millers had a lot of leisure time and were not prosperous unless they had fallback jobs. Nothing will ever change that.

        Batteries? No past, present or near future technology has an economical solution. South Australia’s “Big Batteries” are an accountant’s nightmare. How do you justify such expenditure for so little gain?

        Arthur C. Clarke, the science fiction writer wrote a more serious book many years ago outlining the physical limitations (impossibilities) in achieving certain dreams mankind has espoused over the years – intergalactic travel or even intersolar system travel, (Elon Musk never read his book) due to the limited lifespan of human beings.
        Even simple ideas such as scaling up or down some object falls foul of things like doubling the diameter of a cylinder does not double the volume but quadruples it, and also quadruples its weight. Could we make a machine to replicate the efficiency and strength of an ant 10 metres in length? No, although we have made ssome wonderful machines.

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          Graeme No.3

          Rob K:

          A different story. Watts and Boulton ‘sold’ (actually rented) their engines to mine owners on the basis of a share in the savings from operating a Newcomen steam engine. As the W&B engine was at least 3 times as efficient their share of the saving made them rich, and the mine owners were very keen to buy an engine. Nor did Watt stop improving his engine so they replaced water power for weaving machines.

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        Graeme#4

        Peter, I’ve been monitoring the two-turbine Hepburn wind farm over the last few years. Based on their annual reports, without subsidies I believe that they would be losing around $200,000 a year. If you look at the last report, you will see that alarm bells have been sounded about the farm’s long-term economics, with requests for their folks to lobby the Govt for more subsidies. I cannot see this wind farm ever recovering their initial cost over the lifetime of the turbines.

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        greggg

        This 2014 study on TWO wind turbines?
        https://www.inderscience.com/info/inarticle.php?artid=62496
        The study is irrelevant if it doesn’t include everything else that is required to supply reliable supply several hours ahead, and the extra infrastructure, and, well, TWO wind turbines?

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        yarpos

        You seem to be conflating the energy budget and the construction budget

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      Peter Fitzroy

      Could you explain what is the baseline for the temperature anomaly (LHS)? is it the 1960-1990 average?

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      AndyG55

      ““There’s no correlation between earth temperature and CO2,” “

      And there is also absolutely ZERO empirical data showing atmospheric CO2 causes warming.

      It has never been observed or measured anywhere on the planet.

      Even Peter knows that.

      Does he have the honesty or integrity to admit it, though ? ;-)

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    David Maddison

    Did you see how Matt Kean, the ultra Green and woke NSW Environment Minister and a LINO, Liberal In Name Only, made a Soviet style decree to double koala numbers by 2030? And what if they don’t want to breed, is he going to shoot them?

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      Chad

      ..or maybe he will climb the tree and show them how to do it !
      Didnt they cull thousands of the little cuddly fellows, a few years ago down in Victoria ?
      And wasnt there a report last month suggesting they breed like rabbits if you are not careful ?
      Why does someone always want to play God with nature ?

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      sophocles

      I don’t think even Oxford uni can come up with a vaccine capable of doing that, despite their best wishes/efforts!

      How on earth does Matt Keen think he can make it? Keen by name and keen by nature but even the koalas must be more fussy than that :-D

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    OriginalSteve

    All victorians no matter inbthe back of beyond or in a city now have to wear a face diaper.

    Its a political rear end saving exercise. Unless the numbers are completely fabricated, i suspect the rear issue ( hospitalizations and deaths ) may not change much.

    What then? If numbers are honest and we see no real change in deaths etc, its end of the line for the covid psyop….

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    Bill Hall

    #5

    Gilead: Twenty-one billion reasons to discredit hydroxychloroquine (ORIGINAL ARTICLE)

    https://omnij.org/Gilead:_Twenty-one_billion_reasons_to_discredit_hydroxychloroquine_(ORIGINAL_ARTICLE)

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    Bill Hall

    Rush to trash hydroxychloroquine based on faulty Surgisphere data exposes fundamental flaws in profit-based medical ‘science’.

    https://www.rt.com/news/490734-hydroxychloroquine-faulty-data-science-flaw/

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    OriginalSteve

    And look…from “our” caring ABC….

    Victoristan – the prison State?

    https://www.theage.com.au/national/victoria/daniel-andrews-needs-to-seriously-consider-locking-people-up-20200730-p55gwa.html

    “Anyone who thinks this is simple needs to pause and consider the magnitude of the task. Absent the nonsense from conspiracy theorists and covidiots; the global consensus is that only the clearest of messages and the strictest of compliance offers any chance.

    And yet we still don’t have any info released about the actual underlying cause of death in those slated as “covid19″.

    Why?

    So to re-iterate:

    * No autopsy reports of those that have “died from covid19″ - possibly they had existing co-morbidities that were the actual cause of death, but the bug just put enough pressure on their bodies so they succumbed. This info is critical, and we get lots of screaming and people running around with their hair on fire ( so to speak ) but this bit of info is always left out, but its the key.
    Time for an FOI request.

    * Victoria has a suspended parliament – no rule of law per se and medical martial law in effect

    * People have to navigate police and ADF check points to go anywhere – like in China

    * No amount of efforts has stemmed the problem ( i.e. time to call “lost ball”…)

    * The constant drum beat through the MSM is wall to wall hysteria, just like 9 / 11.
    This is the signature its an Establishment planned psyop.

    * A call to basically imprison people over a problem that actually still isnt as bad as last yeatrs flu season in terms of deaths

    * A simple reality that this bug isn’t as bad as we think, but the theatre is hyped to the max to keep people scared

    * Is Victoria the trial run to see how much freedom people will give up?

    * The woman who stood her ground at the police checkpoint, was arrested by a TAC team to make an example of her lest people grow backbones if dare question the Big Lie…..are we seeing the true colours showing?

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    Annie

    Would some more chocolate speed things up for you Jo? :)

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    el gordo

    Interstadial warming caused the extinction of Australia’s megafauna, humans played a minor role.

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    Peter Fitzroy

    Comments are closed? On a post about censorship?

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    Rick Kinsman

    Hmmm… interesting that the July 30th article on social media and search engine censorship has no “comments” section attached in the usual place.
    Looks like an axiomatic exposure of the truth that free speech is dead and buried.

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    Rick Kargaard

    Jo – Why are comments closed on your newest post. Your doing or another attempt at censorship by the powers that be?

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    Rick Kargaard

    [Duplicate]

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    Serge Wright

    This sensorship and cancel culture of both the MSM and SM is a clear signal that we need someone to create a conservative search engine and social media platform to allow free speech to continue. If such online products were created you would see a huge migration of users, along with billions of dollars in advertising revenues.

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      yarpos

      Parler, BitChute seem to be a start. Duck Duck Go isnt perfect but better than supporting Google directly

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    Dave in the States

    I saw a sign posted today. It was about child slavery and trafficking. It said there were 10,000 children enslaved world wide.

    Unfortunately, it said nothing about the exploitation of children in support of renewable energy. Nor the children suffering in fuel poverty with little hope because of green efforts to reduce the supply of energy and increase the costs of energy.

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    David Wojick

    Biden’s false climate promises

    By David Wojick
    https://www.cfact.org/2020/07/30/bidens-false-climate-promises/?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=bidens-false-climate-promises

    Biden’s multi-trillion dollar climate action plan is full of promises that the law says he cannot keep. Promising to do what you cannot do is a false promise. Here are some big ticket examples.

    Biden says “If I am elected I will do the following:

    Create millions of good, union jobs rebuilding America’s crumbling infrastructure from roads and bridges to green spaces and water systems to electricity grids and universal broadband…

    Create 1 million new jobs in the American auto industry, domestic auto supply chains, and auto infrastructure, from parts to materials to electric vehicle charging stations…

    Provide every American city with 100,000 or more residents with high-quality, zero-emissions public transportation options through flexible federal investments with strong labor protections that create good, union jobs and meet the needs of these cities…”

    What is wrong with these grand promises? Simple. The President of the United States has no authority, or the money, to do any of these things. That authority (and money) belongs solely to the U.S. Congress. So here is what these promises really amount to.

    Biden really says “If elected I promise to do the following:

    Beg Congress to do something about America’s crumbling infrastructure. I will propose a big plan but what they do is up to them.

    Implore Congress to somehow create a lot of jobs in the American auto industry. How they do it is up to them.

    Repeatedly ask Congress to build a lot of zero-emissions public transit stuff. I will bug the hell out of them. (What they do is up to them.)”

    Not quite so grand sounding, are they? In fact they are pretty humble, because Congress, not the President, runs the U.S. Government. That who is President is all important is just a myth, albeit a seemingly universal myth.

    Nor is the Congress likely to do much of this hugely expensive stuff, even if the Democrats win both houses, which is also unlikely. Unlikely + unlikely = very unlikely. This is especially true because Biden’s undocumented cost estimate of two trillion dollars is way low. It is more like twenty trillion.

    It would require trillions of dollars in new taxes, which is political suicide, especially in the House where every seat is voted on every two years. The symbolic House Climate Crisis Committee put out an even grander plan than Biden’s, but like the toothless Committee that plan is just symbolic.

    Note by the way that there is no mention of all these jobs being union in the real promises. Even Congress cannot make that happen. There are “Buy American” clauses in Federal contracts, but no “Only Unions Shops Can Bid On This” clauses. That would be truly unconstitutional.

    It has been suggested that all this pro-union rhetoric is to make up for Biden’s unacceptably truthful admission that killing the fossil fuel industry would kill hundreds of thousands of jobs. Or it may be because AOC, who is hot on unions, is his top climate plan planner. In any case it is yet another false promise.

    People running for President should only promise to do what Presidents can actually do. They cannot speak for Congress so should not pretend to. Biden’s climate promises are so false they are absurd. You can’t get there from here.

    (There are working links in the article on CFACT.)

    Fun stuff! Letting the hot air out of the Biden bag.

    David

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      Kalm Keith

      Yes. Hot air.
      Let it out.

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      AndyG55

      Biden really says “If elected I promise to do the following…

      Biden will always be always the follower, of what the swamp tells him to do…

      USA needs a LEADER !!!

      eg Trump .

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    Betapug

    Moderators, the 30 July “Censorship” post has no “comment” button. The site has become progressively slower to load over the last couple of months with my Chrome browser advising me it is “not secure” and Google displaying an “Info” button warning it is a “Denier” site.
    To reach the comments section, you might as well go make tea while waiting.

    [Interesting information Betapug, I'll make sure Jo gets your message .
    Speed is better for me today and the issue is being worked on.]AD

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    Betapug

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    Craig Strange

    https://www.forbes.com/sites/gracemarieturner/2020/05/22/600-physicians-say-lockdowns-are-a-mass-casualty-incident/#54cb1ade50fa
    600 Physicians Say Lockdowns Are A ‘Mass Casualty Incident’

    Lockdowns are a cure worse than the disease

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    Slithers

    The ‘Live feed’ from china’s 3GD has stopped, WHY?

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      el gordo

      Its not newsworthy.

      ‘The chief forecaster at the National Climate Center (NCC), attributed the intense rainfall this year to the Eastern Asia rainy season, or “meiyu” (literally plum rain) as it is known in China. It started a week earlier than previous years with higher than usual intensity.

      ‘The plum rain, which usually starts in June and can last until August, is the result of a weather front that forms as moist air from the Pacific Ocean meets the cooler continental air mass.’ SCMP

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    Slithers

    Twitter Rules.
    My twitter account has been terminated cos I dared to say ‘It will get Worse’
    /sigh

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    AndyG55

    LOL..

    When will this sort of idiotic nonsense stop. !!!

    https://notalotofpeopleknowthat.wordpress.com/2020/07/30/hull-to-be-wiped-out-by-9m-of-sea-level-rise-says-telegraph/#comments

    How can people with supposed brains, makes such FOOLS of themselves ?

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    robert rosicka

    Whenever I see someone offering $0.45 feed in Tariff I have to wonder where the scam is ?

    https://welcome.shinehubsolar.com.au/nsw-200-vpp?fbclid=IwAR1W4FFqOstYXuGn_RZyx667lv3BBdB92wzK0jXqM6qgwO2Vf-aljaiVtM8

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    el gordo

    ‘James Murdoch has resigned from the board of News Corp, the media giant said on Friday, citing “disagreements” over editorial content.

    ‘In a letter of resignation filed Friday afternoon, Murdoch wrote: “My resignation is due to disagreements over certain editorial content published by the company’s news outlets and certain other strategic decisions.”

    Guardian

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      Hilarious the claims made and seems more a pitch for investors than anything else , not sure if it will even remotely return a fraction of the cost to build it .

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    Slithers

    Did the dam go?
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    Mark Pawelek

    We urgently need a new climate thread due to publication of important new paper.

    Changes in the sun’s activity cause earthquakes which cool earth’s climate by ejecting tiny particles into the upper atmosphere which reflect sunlight away from earth. The last time we saw it dramatically was 29 years ago with the eruption of Mount Pinatubo, the second largest volcanic eruption of the 20th century. It cooled the Northern hemisphere by at least ½ °C for more than 1 year.

    Links: Salon | Nature (paper, open access)

    “We found clear correlation between proton density and the occurrence of large earthquakes [of magnitude greater than 5.6], with a time shift of one day. The significance of such correlation is very high, with probability to be wrong lower than 10-5″ [meaning one in 10000].

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