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    It is late at night or early morning depending on your time frame. I am watching a good film on TV about a virus that is transmitted from animals to humans. So far into the film, there is no known cure. But I’m sure that Hollywood will find a cure by the end of the film. They must have done as Dustin Hoffman and others are still with us.

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      Kevin T Kilty

      I saw that terrible movie I can’t even recall how long ago. It represents the worst of Hollywood beliefs about how science works. Jut get the scientits together to decide on consensus, and the problem solution will be available in about a day.

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    tonyb

    There are far fewer transgender, black, gay, muslims etc in the UK than the population believes.

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-10890631/MICK-HUME-argues-little-wonder-swallowed-distorted-view-UK-demographics.html

    I don’t know if the same applies to Australia. Around June 2020 the Telegraph did a survey where a significant proportion 0f the UK population thought 100 times more people had died of covid than had done so.

    This sort of misconception could of course also explain the hysteria about climate change

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    Honk R Smith

    American news.
    Likely worldwide implications.
    Leading GOP gubernatorial candidate in Michigan is arrested by FBI for Jan 6th.
    This is the state where undercover FBI prompted an alleged attempt to kidnap the governor, resulting in the accused being found not guilty.
    This FBI SWAT arrest… for misdemeanors … was coincidentally on the same day as the House Democrats Jan 6th televised show trial.

    https://nypost.com/2022/06/09/fbi-arrests-gop-michigan-gov-candidate-ryan-kelley-over-jan-6-riot/

    Democrats actually put on a network TV political infomercial about Jan 6th as most Americans are beginning to worry about affording food.
    Long TDS.
    I guess this time the first symbolic rounds are fired in Michigan instead of South Carolina.

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    tonyb

    The headline to the link needs no further explanation other than we all knew it would refer to New Zealand (and probably other countries shortly)

    https://www.breitbart.com/europe/2022/06/09/cow-farts-and-burps-to-be-taxed-for-climate-change-in-backdoor-meat-tax/

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      MrGrimNasty

      Oops fat thumb!

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      Klem

      A meat tax, thats hilarious. I want to see Jacinda and her Marxist cronies eat insects and grubs first.

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      Sambar

      I keep asking why cow farts are a problem in my rural area ( hell bent on introducing controls on anything other than rates rises ) The question that will not be answered is what do the uneaten grasses decay to. No answers, lots of obfuscation. When its pointed out that said grasses produce “green house gases tm” as part of the decay process, eyes glaze over and people walk away. I will do as I am told, stop questioning decisions made by zealots.

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        Zane

        It’s Agenda 2030. By you know who. Eating meat is not part of the Great Reset.

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        Murray Shaw

        Sam, methane (cow burps and farts) is a volatile gas that is burnt up in the atmosphere by lightning, without methane lightning would not be as visible. Probably why lightning displays are more spectacular over highly populated areas such as cities

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    Richard C (NZ)

    I missed this so I’m guessing others did too:

    Atmospheric Temperature and CO2: Hen-Or-Egg Causality?
    Demetris Koutsoyiannis, and Zbigniew W. Kundzewicz
    2020
    https://www.mdpi.com/2413-4155/2/4/83/htm

    We examine the relationship of global temperature and atmospheric carbon dioxide concentration in monthly time steps, covering the time interval 1980–2019 during which reliable instrumental measurements are available. While both causality directions exist, the results of our study support the hypothesis that the dominant direction is T → CO2. Changes in CO2 follow changes in T by about six months on a monthly scale, or about one year on an annual scale.

    And what happens when T goes negative change?

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      Bruce

      “And what happens when T goes negative change?”

      If the temperature goes negative far or long enough, there are these events called “Ice Ages”.

      Typical onset time? About a century.

      Typical “recovery” time?

      One thousand to ten THOUSAND years.

      “T” goes down, so does life on the planet. Entire continents are scrubbed clean by miles-thick ice sheets grinding their way cross country. Hard for vegetation ti thrive under a couple of miles of ice. Also, because of the cold, little or NO evaporation and thus little or NO precipitation; the “ice-free” reduced tropics become DESERTS.

      Planetary “reset”.

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      Chris

      Oxygen levels also go down. The oxygen molecule that is expelled in the photosynthesis process comes from the water molecule. Apparently if oxygen falls to 17% then it’s curtains for everything. 60% of our oxygen comes from phytoplankton such as diatoms in the oceans. These get a CO2 super boost from volcanic activity , tectonic movement and dirty big bushfires in Australia. Fortunately all a bit beyond human control.

      If oxygen levels in the atmosphere rise then free molecules are captured by the breakdown of methane . We have a choice of theories . NASA says hydroxyl molecules break down methane around nine years after it’s been hanging around. British scientists say it breaks down via UV light near the equator after a few months to form CO2 and H2O.

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    My latest little bit of scepticism: https://www.cfact.org/2022/06/08/backup-battery-cost-fantasies-abound/

    The graphic is great. Not my doing.

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    Hanrahan

    How a battery shortage is hampering the U.S. switch to wind, solar power
    Reuters
    Thursday June 09, 2022 11:24

    Kitco NewsShare this article:
    June 9 (Reuters) – U.S. renewable energy developers have delayed or scrapped several big battery projects meant to store electrical power on the grid in recent months, scuttling plans to replace fossil fuels with wind and solar energy.

    At least a dozen storage projects meant to support growing renewable energy supplies have been postponed, canceled or renegotiated as labor and transport bottlenecks, soaring minerals prices, and competition from the electric vehicle industry crimp supply.

    One previously unreported dispute over a delayed California storage project has even wound up in court.

    The slowdown in utility-scale battery installations threatens the pace of the U.S. transition away from fossil fuels as the Biden administration seeks to decarbonize the grid by 2035. The delays could pose a threat to power reliability in states that already depend heavily on renewable energy like California.

    Storing power is considered vital to the expansion of solar and wind energy because it allows electricity generated when the sun is shining or wind is blowing to be used at the end of the day when consumers need it most.

    The delays span states including California, Hawaii and Georgia, with battery providers including Tesla (TSLA.O) and Fluence (FLC.AX) warning of disruptions to supply, according to a review of regulatory documents, corporate statements and interviews with project developers and power providers.

    More at: https://www.kitco.com/news/2022-06-09/How-a-battery-shortage-is-hampering-the-U-S-switch-to-wind-solar-power.html

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      Graeme#4

      Thanks for that article. We knew that Lithium Carbonate’s prices had risen by 419% in the last 12 months, and that cost increase, plus others, is now showing up in lithium batteries. At a projected 10TWh of storage required if Australia went all-renewables and tried to use mainly batteries, these battery cost increases would surely blow out the cost of battery storage in Australia.

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    farmerbraun

    Hmm. Kim surfaces.
    Alexandra Bruce quotes Kim Dot Com and others in an article at ZH .

    Interesting propositions doncha’ think?

    ” that the entire COVID sham was created as a cover for the financial collapse and that new lockdowns are coming, to try [to] mitigate the inevitable violence and chaos that we can expect to be witnessing in the streets. ”

    ” that COVID and the death [sic] shot are an elaborate hoax to engineer a collapse of sovereign currencies , to bring in the Great Reset and the introduction of programmable central bank digital currencies (CBDCs), for a wholly-controlled population, in which people will not be able to buy food, etc. unless the algorithms permit and the undesirables can basically be starved to death via artificial intelligence.”

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      Zane

      I take Kim Dot Com’s musings with a large pinch of salt.

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        farmerbraun

        “with a large pinch of salt.”
        Of course – believe none of what you hear , and half of what you see – the song goes.
        Kim was quoted along with others.
        Best you don’t read it 🙂

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    farmerbraun

    “the undesirables can basically be starved to death”
    “Deplorables . . .” , surely?

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    robert rosicka

    AGL have announced trouble with a few wind farms in Victoriastan, I think some reduced capacity and some close for urgent maintenance? ( just caught the end of the story on the abc) but no story about it yet .

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      Peter C

      SADS (Sudden Adult Death Syndrome).
      Two days ago Jo put up a post on SADS.
      I only encountered the term a day or so earlier. Her post included the case of a young woman in Dublin who died in her sleep ( 7 months ago, it now appears). There was very little detail it on case numbers.
      The source article quoted by others as well seems to be the Day Mail;
      https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10895067/Doctors-trying-determine-young-people-suddenly-dying.html
      More detail is coming to light.
      Dr Ryan Cole reports 100s of recent cases the he is aware of.

      Meanwhile Channel 7 writes a piece that tries to deflect attention by refraining the term SADS as sudden arrhythmic death syndrome which they say has been around for years, thereby avoiding any link with the Covid vaccines.

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    Furiously+Curious

    I dont think things are looking rosey for the Ukraine. Now the war has become fixed battle fronts, rather than a moving guerrilla style fight, things are very different. Artillery becomes dominant, and for every shell Ukraine fires, they are getting 20 back.
    Russia is able to attack Ukraine’s supply lines, while having unimpeded supply to their own fronts. Maybe the Ukraine military is getting diesel, but I’m hearing for the rest of the country it’s hen’s teeth. Forget planting or harvesting.
    How the hell do trenched defences survive thermobaric explosives?
    The russians have devolved to the ancient playbook. Forget about paying wages, they get to loot.

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    Peter Fitzroy

    Weird things that happen in The Western Australian energy market

    The 82MW Merredin Energy peaking generator is an example. It was built almost exactly 10 years ago – June 22, 2012 it came “on line” – and they might just as well have built a Lego set for all the good it’s done.

    It has run – on average – about five hours a year, according to AEMO data, and most of that was just for testing. And this outcome was entirely predictable, and predicted, as RenewEconomy observed at the time: Dumb and dumber energy choices in the wild West.

    This year, Merredin Energy’s allocation under the capacity mechanism has been trimmed slightly to around $12 million for the year. Its total payments in the 10 years it has been sitting around doing sweet FA must now be close to $150 million. The plant cost $95 million to build and plans to “operate”, or at least be there, for 30 years.

    This year, Merredin Energy’s allocation under the capacity mechanism has been trimmed slightly to around $12 million for the year. Its total payments in the 10 years it has been sitting around doing sweet FA must now be close to $150 million. The plant cost $95 million to build and plans to “operate”, or at least be there, for 30 years.

    Renew Economy is the source for this

    Mind you, WA power is still about the cheapest in the Western world

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      At 28c KWh if you think it’s cheap electricity here, it shows how little you know.

      You are the one telling us Big Gov is the genius solution. Did you mean to provide another example of how they screw up? Was that your aim?

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        Peter Fitzroy

        You asked, I provided, are you saying the east coast is better? The renewables mix is the same.

        This is all in your metaphorical backyard, and yet you know nothing about it

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          You hate it when I’m right don’t you?

          You’ve proved nothing but all governments screw up and I’m not the one saying the WA government has the answer, you are.

          WA commentary is virtually non-existent. Am I supposed to be that sole expert?. The “National” grid ignores WA. The “Australian Energy Regulator” thinks Australia ends at the border of SA and QLD. The Australian media is only mentioning WA now because it serves some purpose for the Eastern debate. Same for you. Whatever. And people wonder why WA voted so differently to all the other Australian states?

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            Hanrahan

            WA is currently generating 1.3 gW from gas and 0.25gW from wind. That’s no triumph of RE. How would their costs compare if they were paying the same for gas as the East?

            Don’t get me wrong I applaud their foresight for ensuring this supply, but it does mean it is not an apples/apples comparison.

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              Graeme#4

              Yep, it’s the very low gas cost that enables WA to use a lot of gas for both its SWIS and northern NWIS grids, and to pipe gas 1400 kms right down to Esperance on the south-east coast. And we can use gas peakers without adding extra costs.

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            Peter Fitzroy

            And the price? Why is the WA market not at the mercy of renewables as you claim?

            After all it should be, if everything you post is correct

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              Graeme#4

              So far SWIS grid energy users are not at the mercy of renewables, as on average, very little power comes from wind or large solar. But being a sunny state, we have around 25% of homes using their own solar to further power costs. Naturally this very nice comfortable situation could change, but hopefully all state governments will learn to leave it be.

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                Peter Fitzroy

                rubbish – the AEMO dashboard shows wind at 28% of the WA supply atm. – nice try

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                Graeme#4

                Just looked at my own solar daily output for the last few days, as Perth has been having some of days of wet weather. Two days ago, my solar only delivered 4.67kWh all day, out of a summer total of around 35kWh, or 13% of max possible. For over a week now, it’s never risen about 10kWh, or 29%. It’s this unreliability that will prevent renewables from ever being useful for baseload energy.

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                b.nice

                Wind really is a hit and miss proposition, isn’t it PF.

                Did you know that German’s huge wind fleet is below 15% capacity for nearly half the time.

                That really is pathetic if you expect it to be actually useful for anything.

                No doubt about it wind is a total waste of time and money..

                Did I mention that the other day, GAS and COAL were each producing FIVE TIME what wind was producing in WA.

                You have made a feeble weak-minded effort, and FAILED DISMALLY, yet again.

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              b.nice

              “Why is the WA market not at the mercy of renewables as you claim”

              Because they have enough reliable COAL and GAS to cover the demand when wind and solar are at zero.

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            Peter Fitzroy

            AER? The figures were from AEMO. Nice try.

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              Nice try at what? Again, my point is that Big Gov bureaucracies are bloated, incompetent, (and also heavily biased against WA) and you reply that at least the AEMO recognises that the state exists (well, yippee), even if it calls the east coast grid “The National Energy Market (NEM)” and issues endless press releases and reports to that effect.

              You have nothing but banal trivialities that prove my point.

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                Peter Fitzroy

                I still misunderstand your point, WA policy is holding down prices, even though they have lots of renewables, if you are correct those renewables should be having the same effect on WA prices as asserted prices east coast

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                WA is behind in the train wrecking because it did not have the rest of the Eastern States to hold their hand while they vandalized their grid (See SA, which is years ahead).

                SA Blew up Playford/North in 2015. we still have Muja coal in 2022. Give us time.

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                b.nice

                You are ignoring the point, PF, and making none of your own…. as you always do.

                WA still enough reliable COAL and GAS to cover the demand when wind and solar are at zero.

                Plus they are not a big user of electricity like the Eastern states. (about the same as SA or Tas.)

                A small self-sufficient electricity supply that hasn’t been allowed to degrade because of the implementation of unreliable wind and solar…. yet.

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          b.nice

          “Renewable mix is the same”

          Yep, Currently both COAL and GAS are each producing just over FIVE TIMES what wind is producing.

          Wind is a regular failure wherever it is allowed to infect the grid.

          Seems PF knows nothing about … well, anything !

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          Graeme#4

          Peter, the WA SWIS grid is very efficient, obtaining on average 40% coal, 40% gas energy. And the cost of the gas energy is a fraction of gas costs in other states. Also the main gas pipeline runs north-south through Perth, thus making it very easy to add gas peakers along this pipeline in Perth’s suburbs, right where the energy is needed, and without extra expensive transmission lines. Not only is SWIS grid power cheap, but there is plenty of it and it’s very reliable. There is absolutely no way SWIS grid users would ever want to be connected to the “National” grid.

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        ozfred

        Well those are Australian cents…..
        If I recall correctly after allowing for currency exchanges, most of the USA would have less expensive electric power.

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      robert rosicka

      Must be true if it’s published by Reneweconomy!

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      yarpos

      So, such is a the cost of insurance for a vital sector. The geniuses in Tassie were about the dismatle the gas turbine near Launceston as well, the Basslink failed and suddenly it seemed to be a really good idea again.

      Its laughable for “RE” fanboys to critique the presence of real generators while they destabilise the grid with “RE” which requires the presence of real generators.

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    crakar24

    Cheney could not even accurately quote trump tweet in disinfo attempt in opening unselect committee statement.

    We have people arrested and put in leg irons whilst boarding planes who weren’t even in DC.

    We have people in prison without charges paid for over 12 months.

    How much longer before we witness a night of the long knives event?

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    Zane

    For rational energy policy refer US company Duke Energy, listed on the NYSE. It has generation capacity of about 58GW, the size of the entire Australian grid. It’s energy mix is about a third each coal, nuclear, and gas, with maybe 3% coming from “renewables” being hydro, wind, and solar assets which are nevertheless prominently mentioned in all the company’s PR, thus neutralizing the green nutsos whilst getting on with the business of providing electricity and earning a reasonable return on capital. Simply put, there is not much about generating power that Duke engineers and management do not know about.

    Here’s their latest power station, a two unit CCGT operation of a combined 1640MW, built in two and a half years at a capital cost of $1.5 billion USD.

    https://www.duke-energy.com/our-company/about-us/new-generation/natural-gas/citrus-natural-gas

    Gas comes from a 500 mile pipeline from Alabama. Pipelines! Whoda thunk dat? Gas! Cleaner than coal. Cheap in America, too. One-fifth the price Europe pays for LNG or Soviet (oops, Russian) gas. I seem to recall Australia has some natural gas reserves here and there as well, although perhaps it’s only when Daniel Andrews eats baked beans for breakfast.

    Maybe AGL can send an intern on a study tour to Duke’s HQ in Charlotte, North Carolina, to find out how to provide reliable energy at a reasonable price.

    Albo or Bowen will be too busy attending a “climate” conference somewhere.

    I guess there’s a reason why Duke Energy has a stock market capitalization of US$83 billion, while AGL is worth less than A$6 billion. Some countries seem to deliberately go out of their way to discourage rational investment and sabotage their energy sector.

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      Kevin T Kilty

      I think it is Duke who operates the Top-o-the-world wind ebnergy plant in Wyoming. Second only to Altamont pass for killing eagles — big bruhaha.

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    crakar24

    There is an outbreak of cholera in Mariupol, initial reactions will be to blame Russia because there is no way it came from one of these bio labs is there?

    https://www.defense.gov/News/Releases/Release/Article/3057517/fact-sheet-on-wmd-threat-reduction-efforts-with-ukraine-russia-and-other-former/

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    another ian

    For something different

    “Not your average insurance claim!”

    https://bayourenaissanceman.blogspot.com/2022/06/not-your-average-insurance-claim.html

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      robert rosicka

      They say we follow America on such things , I hope not .

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        Hanrahan

        We may have preceded them.

        A public servant out of town staying in a motel got so involved in the sex act that a painting fell on her. She got compo, not millions.

        Some years ago, some details have slipped.

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    another ian

    A BLOODY MAGNIFICENT HEADING (IMO)

    “They Can’t Power A Smartphone For More Than A Day”

    “But the battery scam geniuses would power the grid.”

    http://www.smalldeadanimals.com/2022/06/11/they-cant-power-a-smartphone-for-more-than-a-day/

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    yarpos

    A tale of water levels on the Great Lakes

    High, low or just right its always climate change

    https://www.zerohedge.com/markets/lake-michigan-water-levels-have-dropped-near-normal-so-yet-another-climate-explanation

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    DLK

    coal power has been used since 1750.
    that’s 273 years.
    no catastrophic warming has been observed in that time.
    there is thus no evidence to warrant rejection of the null hypothesis
    that co2 has no or no significant effect on temperature.

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      Honk R Smith

      Considering our little space rock, and what appears to be the freezing butt cold endless void it floats in …

      hysterical that ‘catastrophic’ and ‘warming’ are paired.

      A mile and half of ice on top of Chicago … now that’s ‘catastrophic’.
      But the real catastrophe, is that we have become morons.

      Hey DLK, I have invented (via revelation) my own religion.
      Styrofoamianism.
      (You are invited to join, only a large monetary contribution is required.)
      Imagine a discarded Styrofoam cooler containing a lost picnic, infiltrated by a colony of ants, floating in a lake.
      Ant generations survive in the cooler.
      Question …
      are the ants capable of understanding the origin of the cooler and its’ true purpose?
      This is our situation. 🙂

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    John Connor II

    New corona virus detected in Sweden, ‘don’t know if it is dangerous to people’

    A new corona virus named Grimsö has been detected in a type of red-backed hamster and scientists are still figuring out whether they have the ability to “jump” to humans.

    “We have not yet identified what potential threat the Grimsö virus poses to public health. However, based on our previous observations of other coronaviruses reported in rats community, there is good reason to continue monitoring,” – Science Alert quoted virologist Åke Lundkvist from Uppsala University – Sweden.

    The new corona virus Grimsö was identified in the body of Myodes glamolus, a species of red-backed hamster.

    https://scienceinfo.net/new-corona-virus-detected-in-sweden-dont-know-if-it-is-dangerous-to-people.html

    (My posts here will now be limited in view of looming events.)

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      b.nice

      “and scientists are still figuring out whether they have how they can give it the ability to “jump” to humans.”

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      b.nice

      Question though…

      Are red-backed hamsters as dangerous as red-backed spiders ?

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    red edwards

    nuclear power to go? . . .

    The US Army is going to test one in 2024 (hopefully). And it fits in a shipping container.

    https://interestingengineering.com/us-army-portable-nuclear-reactor-2024

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      red edwards

      Constructed under a cost-type contract worth roughly $300 million, contingent on options selected, this small nuclear device is set to be delivered for testing at Idaho National Laboratory in 2024. It will also mark the highly anticipated outcome of the Defense Department Strategic Capabilities Office’s (SCO) years-in-the-making Project Pele.

      “The cost of construction is not $300M. Part of the money is finalizing design, part is modeling/experimentation to answer regulatory questions, and part is to stand up new manufacturing capabilities,” Project Pele Program Manager Jeff Waksman clarified on LinkedIn shortly after the announcement.

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    another ian

    Chiefio looks at “Jan 6”

    “Nice Fantasy You Got There, IF You Can Keep It…”

    https://chiefio.wordpress.com/2022/06/11/nice-fantasy-you-got-there-if-you-can-keep-it/

    He was there on the day

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