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How did that happen? Two minutes of open discussion of vaccine side effects on National TV

What’s remarkable is that a conversation had by so many on the internet has finally made it, for a moment, onto television. No surprise it happened on a footy show. It certainly wasn’t going to happen on The 7:30 Report, Four Corners, or 60 minutes.

A star Australian football player had a “scary” incident with nausea, dizziness, and heart irregularities and missed a lot of the game this weekend. The hosts of the show casually asked if it was the booster shot — saying “that’s obviously the word going around.” Possibly they were relaxed about discussing it because one of the shows hosts even has Bells Palsy, and they had discussed it off camera with him. So they let down their guard:

“Exactly, heart issues and Bell’s palsy has gone through the roof since the boosters and Covid issues,” Lloyd said.”

“We had (sports journalist) Michelangelo Rucci on (3AW) on Friday night and he said that there’s a ward in Adelaide filled with people with similar symptoms to Ollie Wines – nausea, heart issues – so there has to be something more to it.”

 

John Ruddick

 They still rush to add they’re proudly triple jabbed because they live in fear of the medico-fascists.

A day later and the pushback has begun

News stories are appearing everywhere with Ollie Wines saying he’s now 100% fine, and “nothing to do with the vaccines”.

Brownlow medallist speaks after Footy Show stars’ shock medical claim

Wines spoke for the first time on Monday. “I’m 100 per cent back to normal, thanks to the Calvary staff the doctors and nurses there,” he said. “They really looked after me, and now I’m 100 per cent fine. There were a few little issues but they have been rectified now.” He said his heart issue is not related his Covid vaccination or vaccine complications, including myocarditis.

Ollie Wines hits back at claims his heart irregularity is linked to the COVID jab as Port Adelaide star insists his health scare is ‘completely unrelated’ to the vaccine

It’s more a heart rhythm issue that is pretty common in elderly people and elite athletes.

It’s only pericarditis, and he’s only 27 and spent the night in hospital. We hope it works out well.

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78 comments to How did that happen? Two minutes of open discussion of vaccine side effects on National TV

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    Annie

    Hmmm….the small beginnings of a tsunami of truth, or will it be heavily denied and suppressed?

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      Terry

      a tsunami of truth…

      …and as the waterline suddenly recedes toward the ocean, we get “don’t worry, she’ll be right mate. Nothing to see here. Absolutely no reason to invoke the precautionary principle and get to high ground (You know, just in case ‘n’ all). Just sit there on the beach in blissful ignorance. What could possibly go wrong? It’s safe and effective after all!”

      These same clowns want to shut down modern society because of a degree of warming and a few mm of sea-level rise (“It’s a catastrophe I tells ya!”).

      Talk about a broken risk sensor – these people are the LAST people you would want to listen to…about ANYTHING!

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    As usual, sweep it under the carpet along with all of the other dirt.

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      Deano

      Usually, whenever a footy show guest talks reality he gets trotted out the following week to humbly apologize.

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    OldOzzie

    A doctor explains why you haven’t caught Covid yet

    If you’ve been lucky enough to get through the pandemic without a dreaded double red line, this is probably why.

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      Honk R Smith

      That doctor must have taken the same 9th grade biology class that I did.
      Small world.

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        paul courtney

        Mr. Smith: I had that same thought, and went to see that doctor. He was older, tired-looking, grey haired and paunchy, much too old to be my classmate, but I asked him if he went to [my old high school] and he said “yes.” Then I told him, “hey, you were in my 9th grade class!” and he leaned in, squinted as he looked me over, and asked, “what did ya teach?”
        h/t Car Talk Guys.

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      Shy Ted

      Nonsense IMHO. These doctors will be struck off if they contradict the narrative and they’re using the PCR as proof of Convid. It is not and never has been a diagnostic test. And this little gem supporting vaxxes – or if you’re vaccinated and have been exposed, your vaccine may have been working more strongly at the time.
      It’s News.com.au after all.

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      David-of-Cooyal-in-Oz

      G’day OO,
      Thanks for that, but I think it’s a pretty poor analysis, and of little value in helping people do anything positive to prepare themselves to repel infection. No mention of role of vitamin D in the immune system. No mention of desirable levels of vitamin D. No mention of zinc, and its need for an ionophore, let alone what ionophores are readily available.
      And at a secondary level, no mention of the need to support vitamin D with vitamin K2, iron and probably vitamin A.
      And no detail about the “genetic” factor, how to recognise it, or how to compensate for its absence.
      But I suppose we should be grateful they’ve started, belatedly, to investigate.
      Cheers
      Dave B

      [Caught in the spam filter. Sorry! – Jo]

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      In response to the apparent conundrum – none of the commentators offered healthy diet/exercise/prophpylactic vitamins etc, or even treatment at the earliest sign, as the reason for some people not contracting COVID.

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    OldOzzie

    If Monoclonal Antibody EUAs Are Being Revoked, Shouldn’t COVID Vaccine Approvals Be as Well?

    On January 24, 2022, The FDA revoked Emergency Use Authorizations (EUAs) for two COVID monoclonal antibody (McAb) treatments, bamlanivimab and etesevimab (administered together) and REGEN-COV (casirivimab and imdevimab), made by Eli Lilly and Regeneron respectively.

    Again on March 25, the FDA revoked the EUA for sotrovimab, which is no longer authorized for use at this time in specified states and territories due to its ineffectiveness against the prevalence of Omicron sub-variants, such as BA.2 in those regions, brought in from overseas. Even these state-of-the-art McAbs can’t keep up with the rapidly mutating, highly transmissible COVID-19 variants.

    In doing so, the FDA is admitting that these expensive treatments, do not work against Omicron and chose to pull the plug in the face of incontestable evidence. An adjustment to scientific reality is normally welcome, but in this case, it appears to heighten the FDA’s hypocrisy in obstinately pushing the COVID vaccines as “the only solution.”

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      OldOzzie

      COVID-19 treatments

      Australian guidelines

      The Australian Government has convened a large group of clinical experts to form the National COVID-19 Clinical Evidence Taskforce. The role of the Taskforce is to create evidence-based Australian guidelines for the clinical care of people with COVID-19.

      Healthcare workers in Australia treat patients with COVID-19 according to these guidelines.

      The Clinical Evidence Taskforce continuously reviews the latest evidence in maintaining and updating its treatment recommendations.

      Treatments available from the NMS

      The TGA has provisionally approved the following treatments for COVID-19. The National Medical Stockpile (NMS) distributes these treatments to state and territory governments for use in their health systems. For more information, visit the TGA website.

      Sotrovimab (Xevudy)
      The TGA provisionally approved Xevudy® on 20 August 2021. Xevudy can be used within the first 5 days of symptoms starting in patients aged 12 years or older with mild to moderate COVID-19 who are at high risk of progression to severe disease.

      Remdesivir (Veklury)
      The TGA provisionally approved Veklury® on 10 July 2020. Veklury can be used in adults hospitalised with moderate to severe COVID-19.

      Tixagevimab and cilgavimab (Evusheld)

      On 24 February 2022 TGA granted provisional approval for tixagevimab and cilgavimab (Evusheld®) for the prevention of COVID-19 in people who are at risk of infection but have not been exposed to the virus. This is known as pre-exposure prevention of COVID-19.

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        Annie

        I see from your link that IVM and HCQ are still being demonised.

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        Ross

        Also, add in Paxlovid, which has recently been approved for the same group of people. In fact, my son has just been prescribed Paxlovid for his rare leukaemia (CML) after now contracting COVID. 5 day course of 6 tablets 3 morning/ 3 night). He had originally been promised monoclonal antibodies, but I dont think there is a product available of that for Omicron. Paxlovid is much better, he can take them at home in ISO. For monoclonal antibodies, that was time in hospital.

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          Ross

          Paxlovid is an antiviral therapy that consists of two separate medications packaged together. When you take your three-pill dose, two of those pills will be nirmatrelvir, the drug that inhibits the SARS-CoV-2 protein from replicating. The other is ritonavir, a drug that was once used to treat HIV/AIDS but is now used to boost levels of antiviral medicines. 
          As a COVID-19 treatment, ritonavir essentially shuts down nirmatrelvir’s metabolism in the liver, so that it doesn’t move out of your body as quickly, which means it can work longer—giving it a boost to help fight the infection.

          You have to take Paxlovid within five days of developing symptoms.

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    its about time 😉

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    OldOzzie

    Proof that blue states DID fail their people during pandemic: Harsh lockdowns caused huge deaths rates, ruined kids’ education and destroyed business, bombshell research FINALLY shows – with NY, NJ, CA and IL all receiving an F-grade

    – New York, California, New Jersey and Illinois were panned for their pandemic performance in the new study
    – Democrat Governors’ policies ’caused huge death rates, ruined children’s studies and destroyed businesses’
    – Meanwhile states that allowed residents more freedom as coronavirus swept across the country faired better
    – Utah, Nebraska, Vermont, Montana and South Dakota were praised by analysts for their pandemic response
    – It comes amid fears restrictions may be phased back in as Philadelphia brings back its indoor mask mandate

    States that imposed the harshest lockdowns had the most devastating impact on the public, the most wide-ranging study into Covid restrictions in the US to date has found.

    New York, California, New Jersey and Illinois were panned for their pandemic performance after bringing in draconian measures to shut their citizens in their homes.

    Those states’ Democrat Governors’ policies caused high death rates, ruined children’s education and destroyed businesses due to the severe curbs on freedom, researchers found as they slapped them with an F-grade.

    Nine out of the ten worst responses to the pandemic were in blue states, the report said, with only Republican-run Maryland bucking that trend and coming seventh last.

    Meanwhile places that allowed their residents more freedom as coronavirus swept across the country appeared to fair better over the last two years.

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      OldOzzie

      A FINAL REPORT CARD ON THE STATES’ RESPONSE TO COVID-19 – 22 page PDF

      Phil Kerpen. Stephen Moore. Casey B. Mulligan

      Working Paper 29928 http://www.nber.org/papers/w29928

      NATIONAL BUREAU OF ECONOMIC RESEARCH
      1050 Massachusetts Avenue
      Cambridge, MA 02138
      April 2022

      ABSTRACT

      Almost exactly two years ago COVID-19 spread to the United States. Following the federalism
      model, the 50 states and their governors and legislators made many of their own pandemic policy
      choices to mitigate the damage from the virus. States learned from one another over time about
      what policies worked most and least effectively in terms of containing the virus while minimizing
      the negative effects of lockdown strategies on businesses and children.

      This study is an expanded and updated version of an October 2020 report card of how pandemic
      health, economy, and policy varied across the 50 states and the District of Columbia (Committee
      to Unleash Prosperity 2020). It examines three variables: health outcomes, economic performance
      throughout the pandemic, and impact on education.

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        RickWill

        The actual performance is more an inverse correlation with population density.

        DC and New Jersey were ranked bottom two on Covid performance. Population density 4361/sq.km and 488.

        Eight of the top 10 states have population density lower than 20/sq.km. Montana lowest population density of the Covid top 10 with just 2.9/sq.km.

        Population density also gives a clue to the sort of activities undertaken in the State and the way they vote. There are not many potato farmers in NJ and DC, for example.

        Maine was the only Democrat State in the top 10. It has a population density of 17.1/sq.km.

        No State in the USA compares favourably against Australia. Australia’s Covid deaths are one to two orders of magnitude fewer per population than any USA State. Australia improved its current account throughout Covid. From an education perspective, parents were more involved in their children’s schooling during Covid than any other time in recent history. That is far more valuable than having public administrators in sole control of the schooling of children.

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          mawm

          It’s not that simple. How would you account for the disparity between California and Florida?

          One of the reasons that the US has figures worse than Australia is that hospitals were getting paid to have a “covid” diagnosis and/or on the death certificate. The amount varied from state to state but the highest was about US$1/4 million per patient diagnosis. That is some incentive to over diagnose the disease. They are also given additional amounts if the patient was put on a ventilator or the patient was treated with remdesivir – both probably increased the death toll. Something really stinks about this disease!

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            RickWill

            How would you account for the disparity between California and Florida?

            Covid mortality in California was 270.4/100k and 277.1/100k in Forida. This is in line with population density CA 98/sq.km and FL 155/sq.km. The reason for the higher rank in Florida is that kids were kept at school 96.2% of the time compared with 19.2% in California.

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              Rick
              You cannot say that kids in school was the difference at all. There are a myriad of factors here.

              Sweden keep their kids in school all the time and fared far better than most of the European countries.

              the more radical and repressive the measures, the higher the death rates is the story around the world.

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          KP

          Yeah, so many unknown factors in it- how may potato farmers eat the same food as the East Coast yuppies?? Maybe small town USA has far more nutritional food than the big cities.

          Australia is probably an order of magnitude better in our food too, the worry is only just starting with their GM canola spreading through the food chain.

          As for the actual topic, maybe the hoi polloi in Aussie will be woken through its sports addiction. You can talk politics of medicine all day and no-one listens, but have a few big sportsmen collapse after a jab and it grabs the attention.

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          Tel

          New Hampshire and Maine both have low population density and are reported as 1.5 standard deviations worse than average in mortality (see page 20).

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    OldOzzie

    And Just Like That, Doctors Have Their Autonomy Back
    By Brian C. Joondeph, M.D.

    Medical knowledge changes rapidly, like the technology in your smartphone. According to Harvard Medical School,

    In science, the term “half-life” refers to the time it takes for a quantity of a substance to reduce itself by one-half. Today, the half-life of medical knowledge is currently about 18-24 months, and it is projected that in about four years that half-life will be only 73 days.

    The COVID pandemic brought this to light. Diagnostic and therapeutic protocols were developed by the behemoth medical and government bureaucracies at the pace one would expect from such organizations. Where are we on early outpatient treatment, designed to keep early and mild cases out of the hospital and ICU, where the risk of death and disability rises dramatically? COVID has been with us for over two years now and there are no officially sanctioned early treatment protocols.

    Those physicians attempting to use their autonomy to offer what in their opinion is the best care for their patients, have been ridiculed, castigated, and threatened with loss of license or job. Here is one example, “A Texas doctor who defended ivermectin as a treatment for COVID-19 and criticized vaccine mandates has been suspended.”

    Or this, “A warning to doctors — spreading COVID misinformation could cost you your license.” Who decides what is “misinformation”?

    So with COVID, “medically necessary, lifesaving healthcare,” as in off-label therapeutics, is prohibited and potentially criminalized. But when applied to teaching young children about [email protected] orientation or gender identity, autonomy is encouraged, and any resistance is now criminalized. How does that work?

    Using physicians as pawns to promote political agendas demeans the entire medical profession, and not unexpectedly is causing patients to lose trust in their doctors, trust once lost difficult to recover.

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      Where are we on early outpatient treatment, designed to keep early and mild cases out of the hospital and ICU, where the risk of death and disability rises dramatically? COVID has been with us for over two years now and there are no officially sanctioned early treatment protocols.

      Absolutely, Old Ozzie! I have been saying this for over a year now. It is astonishing that the medical profession has failed to recommend any sort of early treatment. I still think it is one of the most outrageous aspects of the whole debacle.

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        b.nice

        “the medical profession has failed to recommend any sort of early treatment.”

        That’s what made me so highly suspicious of the whole debacle.

        They say people are “sick” but refuse to treat them until they need to go to hospital..

        Ridiculous, immoral, unethical behaviour from all.

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    OldOzzie

    Scientists Confirm Pfizer & Moderna COVID Gene Therapies Triggering AIDS-Like Syndrome

    Millennials, about ages 25 to 40, experienced an 84% increase in excess mortality in the fall, the highest increase in excess deaths of any age group in 2021.

    We now live in a world where the hidden 1,291 adverse effects according to a Pfizer document are popping up everywhere.

    What is killing the millenials? – Drugs? Suicide? Injections? Cancer?

    On the subject of excess deaths of youths, enter Edward Dowd. He is an interesting fellow. He was a portfolio manager for the multinational investment firm BlackRock and a former analyst and Wall Street executive. We spoke at a meeting together not long ago. He has more recently spoken about the young deaths in a very specific way: in the context of the Vietnam War.

    The Millennials, about ages 25 to 40, experienced an 84% increase in excess mortality in the fall, he said, describing it as the “worst-ever excess mortality, I think, in history.” It was the highest increase in excess deaths of any age group last year, seven times higher than the Silent Generation, those who are older than 85.

    And the increase coincided with the vaccine mandates and the approval of the booster shots.

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      RickWill

      And the increase coincided with the vaccine mandates and the approval of the booster shots.

      So-called “long-covid” was identified in the first few months of 2020. It is interesting that USA is showing the increased mortality of younger people but not Australia. If increased mortality was solely related to the vaccines then the same picture or worse would be observed around the world – it isn’t global. Australia has a higher proportion of the millennial vaccinated than the USA and yet there were no excess deaths in Australia in 2021.

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        KP

        “If increased mortality was solely related to the vaccines then the same picture or worse would be observed around the world –”

        Depends on the batch you got. The figures are out there showing some cause far more ‘adverse events’ than others, and Pfizer reserved special batches for their staff.

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          RickWill’s point is valid, as a partial influence on Excess Deaths. There was an excess death increase shown in 2020 for people who caught Covid — they were more likely to die of something in the next six months than people who didn’t get Covid. The bioweapon did leave a mark on lungs and arteries. It was the same dangerous spike that the vaccines use, after all.

          I’ve not seen any data on that for Omicron. It may not be much of a factor at the moment, but for earlier variants it was relevant. The vaccines may well be worse for those younger age groups, but the excess deaths will have some effect from Covid as well.

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            Peter C

            There was an excess death increase shown in 2020 for people who caught Covid

            Bevan Dockery published an analysis of Covid Deaths in Australia following the start of the Vaccination program (starting April 2021). His data is taken from the Australian Governement published figures and subjected to his own analytical technique. Covid deaths increased after vaccination with a lag of about 10 days. Much worse after the second shot. Fortunately it seems that the mortality is about 1/3400 post vaccination (still way too high)

            https://principia-scientific.com/australian-covid-19-data-analysis/

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        Mark Allinson

        Many of those who are now suffering from cardiac and other symptoms never had a Covid infection from which to get “long Covid.”

        ” … then the same picture or worse would be observed around the world – it isn’t global.”

        There was over a year time difference between the northern vaxx rollout and Australia’s rollout – check the stats again this time next year.

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        Long covid is not a surprise, as we have always had people with the flu (like my wife) who have experienced a very long recovery.

        But quite frankly claims of 10% suffering long covid need to be viewed with some suspicion. With the addition in this group of those with altered taste or smell, I really think this is padding to try, as usual with covid, to try to push the panic button.

        I am quite prepared to believe its real but like the yuppie flu of some years back this one is more puff than reality.

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    Ronin

    Has Ollie been warned off

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    Ronin

    Our own homegrown donkey, Albo the rub and tug inspector has apologised for making a mistake, no Albo, the only mistake you made was attempting to answer a question you had absolutely no idea about.

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      Terry

      Question: What’s unemployment?
      Albo: Something that affects the “little people”.

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      b.nice

      Is Albo the Aussie equivalent of Brandon ?

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        Albo is Anthony Albanese, leader of the Labor Opposition here and given opinion polls — likely to be PM in 6 weeks time. But then he did screw up majorly yesterday, it was so bad, they are now vociferously declaring it “was not a fatal mistake”. That bad. He didn’t know the unemployment rate, or the official interest rate, and possibly worse, he stumbled, made a bad guess, and looked “caught in the headlights”.

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          Mark Allinson

          “… looked “caught in the headlights”.

          The same look Bill shorten wore when asked (repeatedly without response) to cost his nation-killing “climate change” policy.

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          Having met Albo in his younger years I would be advising people to run a mile. The most arrogant person I have ever met.

          Add to that his psychotic demands that all journalists travelling with him wear N95 masks and are triple vaxxed, and one gets an idea of what is in store here. Instead of commonsense and science finally getting a look in we will have a great leap backwards into covid voodoo as useless and dangerous vaxxes are pushed heavily, mandates are dramatically extended and masking is the order of the day. Its past time to stop the flagellation and destruction of our livelihoods and society – for no benefit. Albo claims to want to “bring us together” but in order to do so we need to jettison these ridiculous policies which only drive us all apart.

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        Albo needs to be debriefed daily. Maybe he should be wearing the red underwear on his head just like Conroy did…………

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    Just+Thinkin'

    Didn’t take long for them to be got at.

    We should have seen that coming.

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    Ross

    The “experts” will say that the incidence of such adverse reactions are really low, and typical of population statistics. But, that is little consolation if you are the minor statistic with that reaction. These vaccines should have been “black boxed” in the first 6 months of use. That would have happened if they were a normal “new” type pharmaceutical. New, meaning new active ingredient chemistry or totally new use for an existing active ingredient. So that would include mRNA technology in Pfizer and Moderna jabs.

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      The Pfizer data should have been published as it came in. That’s what informed consent would look like. Morrison and all national leaders let down their nations by signing away liability and yet not even demanding the data.

      No emergency is so bad that the data needs to be hidden, except for military secrecy in times of war.

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    GlenFromAus

    I hope WINES has a BIG life insurance policy.

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      Mark Allinson

      Life insurance policies in many countries are being rejected by Insurance companies on the basis that entering an experimental drug programme invalidates the policy.

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    Strop

    This was spoken about on Neil Mitchell’s 3AW morning program (11/4/2022) with stand in host Tony Jones.

    This included talking to Dr Ross Walker who hosts one of 3AW’s medical shows. Dr Walker is a cardiologist and talks about the increase of cardiovascular events he has seen in his practice. Anecdotal observations.
    His recommendation is to be vaccinated against covid but prefers Astrazeneca and Novovax over the “experimental” mRNA vaccinations.

    Link to show here
    https://apps.apple.com/au/app/radio-3aw/id443063438

    Listen from 1hr 48min into the show.
    Tony spends a couple of minutes on intro then talks to Dr Walker for several minutes.

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      Mark Allinson

      It’s hard to see why there would be less trauma for the patient being forcibly restrained to receive a sedative prior to vaccination.

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        Strop

        Where does the forcibly restrained come into it? Didn’t see any mention of restraint in the document. Apologies if i missed it.

        This document appears to just be to indicate sedation doesn’t impact the effectiveness of the vaccination or add to adverse events. Although not sure how they know given their references don’t seem to include any covid vaccination and sedation experience or study.

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          Mark Allinson

          True, the document warns against using sedation to relax and then vaxx the “vaccine-hesitant.”

          Thus “Informed consent must be obtained prior to each dose from the patient themselves”

          But we know that this doesn’t happen.

          How many on this forum who have received the vaxx were, for example, read the nine pages of possible side effects which Pfizer recently released?

          And how many more pages to come?

          Unless those receiving the vaxx were advised of all these potential issues their consent WAS NOT AN INFORMED CONSENT.

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      KP

      I’m waiting for the first nurse whistle-blower to announce they were given a policy to update everyone’s vaccine status while under anesthetic for any operation…
      Especially as the Kiwi who had 10 jabs in a row for other people has been upstaged by the guy who had 60!

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    Mark Allinson

    ” … his health scare is ‘completely unrelated’ to the vaccine.”

    Yep, and the 779 athletes who have collapsed with heart issues (500 + dead) all over the world are also totally unrelated.

    It must be the umpire whistles – they are just too loud.

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    STJOHNOFGRAFTON

    In the least, that two minutes will be rewritten as ‘good thing we wus boosted or it would have been a lot worse’ or the whole two minute episode will be disappeared by dark forces back below the event horizon.

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    Doctor T

    In the sport and exercise medicine community there are numerous reports of vaccine adverse effects- musculoskeletal, cardiac, neurological, etc.
    Doctors are certainly talking amongst themselves- many are reporting suspected adverse effects.
    Of course no one will publicly state this is occurring- fear of losing one’s career remains a powerful motivator.

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      Leo G

      Doctors are certainly talking amongst themselves- many are reporting suspected adverse effects.

      Doctors now are talking more openly.

      I have been visiting a Sydney cardiologist after developing a significant heart irregularity last year (commencing 10 days after my second AZ jab). At the most recent consult he remarked that he has several patients with similar conditions that he also regards as caused or triggered by a Covid vaccination.

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        Doctor T

        I wish you all the best with you cardiac problems. I agree that the best option for my medical colleagues and I is to speak honestly to our patients about what we are seeing.
        Anything less is an abrogation of our Hippocratic responsibilities.

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    Philip

    My goodness you read the XYZ ? Im shocked. Dave is a smart well spoken guy, a better writer, I’ve been watching his work on nationalism for 5 or more years now. But he has made a big mistake I believe in falling in with the genuine Austrian Painter worship crowd of Melbourne. But I regularly follow his Telegram, it just has the news of the world you need to hear and decent commentary.

    [Caught in the spam filter. Sorry! – Jo]

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    Philip

    Basically it has hit the sporting world so hard these guys cant but help see it. Must be pretty bad.

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    Philip

    How funny is that guy on the panel with bell’s palsy and he just carries on like it’s nothing. My goodness I would be outraged if that happened to me. There’s something very funny about that, I could easily see a Monty Python comedy where they all have awful obvious injuries but ignore them as they talk to each other, and support the thing that did that to them.

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      Stockholm Syndrome or Mass Formation: How The Left Got Duped On COVID: They invested their trust and faith in the government and politicians who they previously called “liars and charlatans”

      Propaganda has given them this mental representation of a deadly pathogen that kills everyone, with vaccines as the only cure. The
      free-flowing anxiety connects this train of thought and in order to disconnect the two, you have to turn up the heat
      and create even more anxiety. Therefore they act like headless chickens with blind trust in authority.

      So as with National Socialism and Soviet Socialism, the Socialists embraced mandatory segregation, coerced medical procedures, government surveillance, and the censoring of scientists. Giving pharmaceutical corporations a free pass on multi-billion-dollar experimental injections. The Left is leading the charge against those who decline to get a Jab every few weeks or months.

      So what happened? How did the Left get subverted into being the enforcers for Big Pharma and dystopian government. One reason appears to be deliberate targeting of the Left with pseudo-collectivist messaging designed to resonate with Left sensibilities.

      Stockholm Syndrome Group Think: https://unitedpushback.com/mass-formation-how-the-left-got-duped-on-covid/ or Mass Formation as Dr Malone calls it: https://rwmalonemd.substack.com/p/mass-formation-psychosis?s=r

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      andrew

      The panelist Matthew Lloyd has been diagnosed with Bells Palsy, as has his mother in law and a former team mate of his – must be something in water in Essendon – couldnt possibly be the faux vaxx! We saw two health ministers (one in Australia and one in Canada) with drooping faces at press conferences. So many coincidences…

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    Chris

    Australia

    2020 – 905 Covid Deaths in an un-vaccinated population
    2021 – 1229 Covid Deaths in a partially vaccinated population
    2022 – 4435 Covid Deaths in a highly vaccinated population (Only 3 1/12 months in)

    This seems likes a massive failure to me. One can argue the point about case numbers and variants, but given the point of the vaccine was to eliminate the “Covid Threat” I interpret this as a massive failure.

    Adding in the side effects from taking the vaccine and the extent of the failure is barely believable. Yet the authorities are still saying get boosted, the vaccine is safe and effective with no long term health issues.

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    philemon

    The “vaccine” is pretty scary: https://meaninginhistory.substack.com/p/stunning-mccullough-on-reverse-transcription

    No vexxing kids or wildlife! The people pushing this stuff are insane.

    https://rwmalonemd.substack.com/p/the-illusion-of-evidence-based-medicine

    “What happens if the ‘good gene’ lands in a ‘bad place’ in your genome? It turns out that the structure of our genome is highly evolved, and we are still relative neophytes in our current level of understanding.  Despite having sequenced the human genome. The method of ‘insertional mutagenesis’ (sticking genetic information in the form of viral DNA or other ways) has long been one of the leading methods to generate new insights into genetics – from fruit flies to frogs to fish to mice.  When new DNA is inserted into chromosomes it can cause many unexpected things to happen.  Like development of cancers, for example. This is why there is so much concern about the possibility that the mRNA-like polynucleotides used in the ‘RNA vaccines’ may travel into the nucleus (where the DNA chromosomes reside) and insert or recombine with a cellular genome after reverse transcription (RNA-> DNA).  Normally, with DNA-based gene therapy technologies, the FDA requires genotoxicity studies for this reason, but the FDA did not treat the ‘mRNA vaccine’ technology as a gene therapy product.”

    No informed consent, no liability, no successful animal trials, no limited RCT Phase I trials for at least a year or 18 months, no genotoxicity studies, no chemotoxicity studies, absolutely no long-term studies, Gee, what could go wrong?

    Back in the day, treatments for terminal cancers had more stringent FDA approval. Mea culpa, back in the day, I did criticize Climate Science vis à vis Medical Science. Oh well, I suppose it couldn’t last. Medical science is kaput. And probably back in the day, there were promising therapies that couldn’t get funded simply because there was no money in ‘em.

    This guy is keeping track of “died suddenly”: https://markcrispinmiller.substack.com/p/as-young-mayors-drop-dead-all-over

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