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    another ian

    What you’re in for

    “World Government Summit Introduces the New Financial World Order – The Intent of the Digital ID That Follows the Vaccination Passport
    March 31, 2022 | Sundance | 21 Comments
    The World Government Summit 2022 took place on March 29 and 30 in Dubai, hosting more than 4,000 individuals from 190 countries including senior government officials, heads of international organizations, and global “experts.” The invited participants presented ideas and worldviews from within their various fields of specialty.

    One presentation that needs to be highlighted was from Dr. Pippa Malmgren, an American economist who served as special advisor on Economic Policy to President George W. Bush.”

    More at

    https://theconservativetreehouse.com/blog/2022/03/31/world-government-summit-introduces-the-new-financial-world-order-the-intent-of-the-digital-id-that-follows-the-vaccination-passport/

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      Peter Fitzroy

      could not possible be a symptom of AGW, just a fluke really?
      I mean I have 1 major and 2 minor floods in the last 13 months
      Lismore has had 1 minor and 2 major floods in the last 13 months

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        another ian

        No, as pointed out in Jennifer Marohasy’s March email

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        Furiously+Curious

        Dark mutterings…correlations, causation? Would you give us a run down on the mechanisms? I’ve been right in the middle of it, and the set up is a wonder; but how you get from CO2, to warming, to hitting this tiny piece of the earth’s surface with low pressure cells, and a surface onshore atmospheric river. Step by step. Come on give it to us. I reckon it’s much easier to just chant ‘climate change, climate change, climate change.’ And it does the job — the destruction of Western Civilisation.

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          ghl

          And ak=lso pertinent, have the East Coast temperatures risen?
          No rise, no CO2 effect.

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          Peter Fitzroy

          Read any IPCC report it is all explained in those, with references to each and every paper, so you can backtrack to the physics, the observations and the models.

          Note: do not fall for the line that models are inaccurate- events are proving that they have been remarkably prescient. The naysayers will point to the extreme scenarios in the ensemble and whine about those. Try to understand that those extremes are used to validate the model in a statistical process, which is also described in the IPCC reports

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            b.nice

            You are the one saying the IPCC contains science.
            You should be the one presenting actual hard scientific references.

            But you know that you can’t
            because the IPCC is a political organisation, not a scientific one.

            You have absolutely nothing but your nebulous anti-science pleas to a load of politically based nonsense.

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            b.nice

            Climate models have been proven to be a load of absolute junk .. by reality.
            The reason you are so easily fooled by the ramblings of the AGW farce is because you are essentially devoid of any scientific or mathematical understanding.
            That shows in every post you make. Its all just low level fantasy to you.

            “those extremes are used to validate the model “
            What a load of anti-science tosh.
            Extreme fantasies cannot be used to validate anything.
            A model is validated against real data.

            The climate models have failed spectacularly !

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            el+gordo

            ‘Read any IPCC report it is all explained … ‘

            The general argument is that as the world warms it will become wetter, I accept that, but on this occasion we are dealing with ENSO.

            In my digging around it seems that most of last century La Nina came in packets: 1910, 1916, 1917 ….. 1950, 1955,1956 ….. 1971, 1973, 1975 and the only standout was 1938.

            But after the great climate shift of 1976, when the PDO became positive, La Nina settled into a different pattern … 1988, 1998, 2010 and 2020. The PDO has moved back to its negative phase and we get back to back la Nina 2021 and 2022.

            If there is a third consecutive La Nina, practically unprecedented, should we blame industrial CO2?

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            Note: do not fall for the line that models are inaccurate- events are proving that they have been remarkably prescient.

            Yeah! April the First.

            Who would have thought?

            Tony.

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        Lewis P Buckingham

        Well looking around the cause of two La Ninas is obvious.
        Everyone put solar panels on their rooves, in fact the penetration of solar panels in Australia is the highest in the world.
        This then caused a change of climate so that now the dams, instead of lying empty and full of dust are filling again.
        To reverse the trend we need to take down the solar panels and store them so we may reinstall them when we need rain again.

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        b.nice

        This is because of the triple La Nina… all in quick succession.
        Humans don’t cause La Ninas

        Try again, this time with some actual science, if you can find any.
        IPCC is the last place you will find actual science..

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        R.B.

        Intelligent and honest people do not extrapolate that an unusual weather event could be due to climate change to we must all eat crickets to save the world.

        Don’t confuse intelligence with those lucky enough to get good taxpayer money and give nothing useful in return.

        We had a good drenching six years ago. The “scientists say” that it could be due to climate change came out. Turns out that it was one of the wettest years in nearly 140 years of records, but 9 years of the 14 wettest were in a 19 year period 100 years ago – 3 years in a row as wet or wetter 1908-1910. Any “scientist” could have attributed that unusual event to plethora of gnomes in gardens and it reported as “scientists say”, but it was only weather.

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          Peter Fitzroy

          One event taken on its own, is as you say, not proof of anything.

          However add more energy into a La Niña, and that will produce the double whammy floods we say this month. That is what the models are predicting, that is what is occurring. Note: this is a word wide phenomenon, unusually intense rainfall, storms, fires (those in WA will know that personally) not to mention longer than normal droughts.

          /read the IPCC reports, or the summaries, or anything but Murdoch

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            b.nice

            You have no proof of anything..
            In fact you vigorously avoid presenting anything actually relevant.
            It is not a world-wide phenomenon, there is no measured evidence of that.
            All data relative to cyclone, tornadoes , hurricane, shows no trend whatsoever.

            This picking on natural weather events, caused by known natural patterns, as some sort of “proof” of human impacts, really is utter stupidity bordering on complete farce.

            The IPCC reports are a politically based construct, based on activist grey science. There is actually not much real science in them, as you continue to show by your complete inability to produce any.

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            b.nice

            “add more energy into a La Niña,”

            Making up junk-science again, I see.

            CO2 cannot and does not add energy to anything.

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            el+gordo

            ‘However add more energy into a La Niña …’

            We should focus on natural variables, quasi cyclic patterns, wheels within wheels, then it’ll be possible to eliminate the supposed build up of energy as the main driver.

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            R.B.

            Peter, your argument is absurd. Putting more energy into a system does not explain anything. Putting more energy into kinetic energy of winds, for example, could lead to more wind shear that stops very strong cyclonic winds forming. It’s what more complex modelling suggests will happen, more than negating a few percent stronger winds if they do form, while the increase in breeze strength might make those stupid windmills actually earn their keep.

            As for rain, it’s how much water laden air cools that determines how much rain falls. Weather patterns determine where. If the system kept moving, we would be reporting that the dams were full again in the outback instead of Lismore flooding.

            “Putting more energy into the system” is more likely to increase rainfall in light showers than heavy downpours, which is a good thing. Alas, there is no such trend, either.

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        Kevin T Kilty

        Refer to the Joseph effect per Benoit Mandelbrot.

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        yarpos

        You are most likely correct, but i guess because its happened in NSW and to Sydney then it is of course a big deal. Amazingly the rest of Australia has weather also.

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      b.nice

      “could not possible be a symptom of AGW”

      WOW, you got something right for once… by accident !

      La Ninas are a sign of cooling, so not AGW.

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        Scott

        He hit on two things by accident… ”read the IPCC reports, or the summaries…” The summaries don’t reflect what is in the actual report. The IPCC report says there are no trends in floods, fires, tornados, hurricanes/cyclones, etc. Perhaps he should read the report.

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          b.nice

          “Perhaps he should read the report.”
          He has “heard of it”, is about as far as he has managed.
          If he had actually read and comprehended any of it, he would know its not science, but paid activism with very little actual science intruding.

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        el+gordo

        ‘La Ninas are a sign of cooling … ‘

        Yes, but El Nino usually bounces back with renewed vigour, driving temperatures higher. Why is it not going to happen this time?

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          b.nice

          “Why is it not going to happen this time?”

          Hint: What is the over-riding source of energy for an ocean energy recharge! 😉

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            el+gordo

            A quiet sun and cool PDO should keep equatorial Pacific SSTs at neutral level for the foreseeable future.

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      el+gordo

      This article was written a month ago, so the present ECL is not included.

      https://theconversation.com/nsw-is-being-hit-by-a-one-two-of-east-coast-lows-but-arent-those-a-winter-thing-178419

      Also, according to BoM there is no apparent trend.

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    wayne job

    Went to the local Dr today to get some referals to specialists and asked him for a script for ivermectin he just said no. I will not take anymore BS injections I ended up in hospital for a week after Astra jabs then my woman insisted I have the fiffer I broke out all over in rashes like clusters of large flea bites as itchy as.No more for me.

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      PeterS

      More mRNA vaccines to come.

      Moderna Developing Dangerous Flu Vaccine

      Moderna, the company that produced its first vaccine amid Operation Warp Speed, has plans to release another risky injectable. The company is working on another mRNA vaccine to combat the common flu called mRNA-1010. Moderna is currently in phase two of the trial for the unnecessary vaccine, and there are already major red flags. Those who received the mRNA-1010 vaccine were twice as likely to experience side effects than those who received Afluria, the standard flu vaccine. The adverse side effects were experienced across every age group.

      Why would the most vulnerable in our population take a vaccine that is proven to cause twice as much harm as the currently available one? Answer: coercion and fear for profits.

      The company also plans to develop a vaccine that combines the unknown chemicals of the COVID vaccine with its flu vaccine. Novavax is already in phase one of a trial for a combination vaccine. The COVID narrative suddenly disappeared from the mainstream media the day Russian troops lined the border of Ukraine, but do not forget governments still plan to use the virus as a significant component of their toolkit to control the people.

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      James

      Tell him you are going to a malaria infested region and ask for a script for HCQ! If Australia still had a postal service you could order ivermectin from India like I do!

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        Graeme No.3

        There are reports that the Australian Customs are confiscating parcels of ivermectin.

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          Neil+Crafter

          I have had two deliveries of Ivermectin get to me through the mail.

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            ozfred

            sounds like a reason to visit a chemist shop in SE Asia now that the borders are “open”
            Wonder how well arrivals are being checked for pharmacy medicines?

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    TedM

    Very useful paper here by Geert Vandeen Bossche. Where he believes that this epidemic is leading. If he proves to be correct it won’t be good news for the much vaccinated.

    “Poor virus-neutralizing capacity in highly C-19 vaccinated populations could soon lead to a fulminant spread of Sars-CoV-2 super variants that are highly infectious and highly virulent in vaccinees while being fully resistant to all existing and future spike-based C- 19 vaccines
    “I SERIOUSLY expect that a series of new highly virulent and highly infectious SARS-CoV-2 (SC-2) variants will now rapidly and independently emerge in highly vaccinated countries all over the world and that they will soon spread at high pace. I expect the current pattern of repetitive infections and relatively mild disease in vaccinees to soon aggravate and be replaced by severe disease and death. Unfortunately, there is no way vaccinees can rely on assistance from their innate immune system to protect against coronaviruses as their relevant innate IgM antibodies are increasingly being outcompeted by infection-enhancing vaccinal Abs, which are continuously recalled due to the circulation of highly infectious Omicron variants. In contrast, Omicron’s high infectiousness would enable the non-vaccinated to train their innate immune defense against SC-2 while the infectious and pathogenic capacity of the new SC-2 variants would be debilitated in the non-vaccinated for lack of infection-enhancing Abs in their blood. Unless…”
    Full paper here.
    https://uploads-ssl.webflow.com/616004c52e87ed08692f5692/6244c3b09ad5701f3ec17765_GVB_s%2Banalysis%2Bof%2BC-19%2Bevolutionary%2Bdynamics.pdf

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      William Astley

      Geert Vandeen Bossche paper’s assertion that we are not going to all have herd immunity due to getting infected with Omicron is incorrect.

      From Bosche’s ‘paper’
      “Why should we care about lack of herd immunity when infections in vaccines barely cause any severe disease, let alone death?
      – There isn’t even any hope that the current epidemiological situation could lead to herd immunity any time soon”

      is Bah… Bah…Bah because the statement “any hope the current epidemiological situation could lead to herd immunity any time soon.” is false. I would assume that statement is a lie… As the data/analysis of the ‘epidemiological situation’ to support what I state below is unequivocal. Data supports what is factually true, what is true at a concept level. See John Campbell’s Youtube videos.

      Omicron is as contagious as the measles and Omicron BA.2 is the mildest of all covid strains causing a mild cold. In countries like India, the almost the entire population has been exposed to Omicron. Every country of the world is following India. Omicron is defeating covid. The faith base community are calling Omicron a miracle.

      https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/india/

      In the UK roughly 1 out 15 people now have the mild cold covid. There are 350,000 new covid daily covid cases recorded yesterday in the UK Zoe covid tracker. That is the highest daily covid case count ever in recorded in UK. The UK government no longer reports the true number of covid cases. Same for Canada and many other countries. Why count covid cases when the solution to the covid pandemic is for everyone to become infected with Omicron?

      The RNA vaccines only provide short term ‘protection’ against getting covid. The first release covid RNA vaccines cause serious side effects and deaths. Omicron BA.2 covid is called stealth covid because so many people get it and have mild or no symptoms.

      Covid.. The biological package. Has been defeated by Omicron BA.1 and BA.2. BA.2 is the most contagious virus that can biologically be made using the covid virus package. For that reason, it is not possible for a lab based more dangerous version of Omicron BA.2 to spread among the general population. Omicron is endemic in the population. Always circulating.

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    Peter C

    Analysis of Government Covid Stats shows a remarkable correlation.

    Bevan Dockery has taken offical goverment Covid stats and shows a remarkable correlation.

    Firstly he claims that the vaccine death rates are far higher than acknowledged.
    Then he takes the official Government stats on vaccinations and Covid hospital admissions, Covid ICU admissions and Covid deaths.
    Not only is there a clear correlation but the Covid hospital admissions lag the vaccine by 4 days, the ICU admissions lag the vaccine by 7 days and the Covid deaths BY 11 days.
    https://principia-scientific.com/australian-covid-19-data-analysis/

    It looks like a smoking gun to me.
    What do others think?

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      Graham Richards

      Below is a cut and paste from the American thinker.
      Alarming vax side effects reported by military whistleblowers. This story made a few waves last week when Sen. Ron Johnson (R-Wis.) included a mention in his five-hour Senate hearing. The information came from the Defense Medical Epidemiology Database (DMED), a mundane accounting tool used to track all medical diagnoses of military personnel and dependents for insurance billing purposes. DMED did better than the CDC’s ineffective Vaccine Adverse Event Reporting System (VAERS). Following is a summary of the most alarming vax side effects:
      Myocardial infarction (heart attack) — 269% increase
Cancer diagnoses — 300% increase
Miscarriage — 300% increase
Bell’s palsy — 291% increase
Congenital malformations (for children of military personnel) – 156% increase
Female infertility — 471% increase
Pulmonary embolisms — 467% increase
Neurological issues — 1,000% increase

      I’ve been hospitalised with stroke like symptoms. Approximately 2 weeks after Astra Zeneca jab in June last year. Still haven’t recovered. 8 Weeks ago a friend ended up in hospital twice in 10 days with similar symptoms to mine. His occurred 3 days after a fizzed jab.

      In both our cases, neither the hospitals, our GPs or vascular specialists will discuss the cause. They obviously don’t want trouble from Governments or Government institutions.

      Relate our problems to the above article…. Neurological cases increased in USA defence departments by 1000%!!!! Go figure. Don’t inject any poison people, your life is on the line!,

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      Leo G

      It looks like a smoking gun to me.
      What do others think?

      We now know that the unconventional vaccines can cause low grade inflammation for at least 2 months after vaccination sufficient to elevate parathyroid hormone (PTH) and thereby reduce natural, innate immunity- and not just against SARS-CoV-2 infection.

      Ever wondered why our health officials have never encouraged the public to ensure adequate vitamin D status to protect against the infection and, when infected, against its potential virulence?

      Both vitamin D and PTH are involved in regulating calcium and phosphate balance. If vitamin D levels are suboptimal, parathyroid increases to compensate at the cost of impairing natural immunity.

      The mRNA vaccines (including the Astrazeneca viral vector vaccine) induce low grade inflammation for much longer periods than conventional vaccines, increasing histamine activity etc and, as I indicated above, elevating PTH.

      One important way high vitamin D levels protect against Covid-19 is by ensuring PTH levels are minimised and natural immunity is optimised. The mRNA vaccines tend to defeat that protection.

      The vaccines dramatically reduce the virulence of Covid for the majority of the vaccinated at the cost of increasing both susceptibility to infection and virulence for many people.

      It appears to me that countries where older people have reasonably good vitamin D levels and where those people are far less likely to be immunised, have much lower Covid morbidity and mortality than countries like Australia and the UK which have high rates of immunisation.

      I believe our health officials made the wrong choice but remain committed to the error.

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      Honk R Smith

      Yes, smoking gun.
      We can all guess the multiple fingerprints that are on it.
      We will tend our wounds.
      The owners of the fingerprints will become owners of new beach front mansions.
      The ‘journalists’ will call it a conspiracy or Russian disinformation, citing ‘intelligence experts’.
      The FBI will lose the gun.
      The politicians will say you shouldn’t have a gun.
      The entertainers will dismiss the study because the authors of the study were not from a marginalized demographic.
      The polite among us will complain the we aren’t focused on debating scientific evidence.

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      “Firstly he claims that the vaccine death rates are far higher than acknowledged.”
      Peter C. all of the figures used were taken directly from the TGA web site at:
      https://apps.tga.gov.au/Prod/daen/daen-report.aspx
      Here are the results from tonight’s check of the site, quote:
      Selected medicines
      Trade name Active ingredients
      COMIRNATY COVID-19 vaccine tozinameran
      COVID-19 Vaccine (TNS) COVID-19 Vaccine (Type not specified)
      COVID-19 Vaccine AstraZeneca ChAdOx1-S (Viral vector)
      NUVAXOVID COVID-19 Vaccine SARS-CoV-2 rS (NVX-CoV2373)
      Spikevax COVID-19 vaccine Elasomeran (mRNA)
      Search results
      The results are shown in two tabs.
      Number of reports (cases): 117010
      Number of cases with a single suspected medicine: 114856
      Number of cases where death was a reported outcome: 802
      end quote.
      It is our media and the politicians (excluding Senator Malcolm Roberts) who fail to acknowledge the very serious death rate.

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        Peter C

        Thanks. Bevan,

        Not meaning to cast any doubt on your death figures.
        TGA DAERS are claiming only 11 dead us from the vaccines . All the other deaths wer e dismissed as incidental.
        Your analysis gives some insight into the true death figures,

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      Furiously+Curious

      Isn’t it amazing that any study debunking IVM gets immediate publicity on major media, it’s almost like there’s there is some sort of a campaign? I’m pretty sure this has been out for a while, and the study has major questions, like small dose, short duration, on an empty stomach (IVM needs to be taken with food), in an area where IVM is available over the counter, paid for through McMaster uni, who get major vaccine study grants from Gates, headed by Bill Gates’ favourite drug tester. What could go wrong?
      IVM is kryptonite for big pharma. It shows way too much promise on too many fronts.

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        Simon

        The higher quality trials consistently show no benefit of ivermectin. The NEJM refereeing system is independent and extremely rigorous, which is why the paper took so long to get through peer review.

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          Independent of what? Do they need government grants / expect Big Pharma jobs / want sweet roles ten years from now / need to keep up registration?

          Who says they were “higher quality” trials and why?

          Rigor does not = slow.

          This is nothing but argument from authority.

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            So what is your assessment of the methods?

            We conducted a double-blind, randomized, placebo-controlled, adaptive platform trial involving symptomatic SARS-CoV-2–positive adults recruited from 12 public health clinics in Brazil. Patients who had had symptoms of Covid-19 for up to 7 days and had at least one risk factor for disease progression were randomly assigned to receive ivermectin (400 μg per kilogram of body weight) once daily for 3 days or placebo. (The trial also involved other interventions that are not reported here.) The primary composite outcome was hospitalization due to Covid-19 within 28 days after randomization or an emergency department visit due to clinical worsening of Covid-19 (defined as the participant remaining under observation for >6 hours) within 28 days after randomization.

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              Methods? Dismal. Rigged to fail. Too late to be useful. People who had “symptoms for up to seven days”. Only three days of treatment. Biased selection. Wrong trial method. It’s an RCT on a community that already knows ivermectin works. etc See How Parachutes don’t work in an RCT paper.

              This is just another revamp of the useless, deliberately hobbled TOGETHER trial I have already blogged on. Is this just them finally publishing the results that they’ve scored press headlines on since August last year?

              See

              How to design a study to fail, and create bad PR for Ivermectin: Plus a lesson in white lies from the Wall Street Journal

              How to design a study to fail:Early Treatment of COVID-19 with Repurposed Therapies: The TOGETHER Adaptive Platform Trial

              1. 1. Give the control group a head start.  It helps to begin collecting data on the control group weeks earlier when there is a less deadly variant around. That way more of the control group “do well” which makes the test group less likely to outdo them.
              2. 2. Give people ivermectin on an empty stomach so it is not absorbed well. It works against worms, but lowers the effective antiviral dose to about one fifth of the current clinical treatment protocol.
              3. 3. Limit the trial to three days, just in case all the other handicaps weren’t enough.
              4. 4. Start the treatment late — maybe as late as 8 days after symptoms start. It’s not clear exactly how late the treatments ended up being on average. We just have to wait for the paper, eh?
              5. 5. Use a randomized control trial in a community that already knows how useful ivermectin is.  That way the really sick people will rule themselves out of the trial, because they won’t want the useless placebo. By comparing groups that are already low risk, ivermectin is less likely to shine. RCT trials work best in communities where the drug is not normally known or used.
              6. 6. Ivermectin was so widely known in Minas Gerais, Brazil that some of the control group may have been using ivermectin before they started the trial. No one asked. Nevermind if they were the lucky ones who actually got the right dose at the right time, we can call them “controls”.
              7. 7. Use vague primary outcomes like “events” that are subject to bias and exaggeration.
              8. 8. Rule out sick people (if they haven’t already ruled themselves out first) by only including patients with an “expected stay of less than 5 days. “
              9. 9. Tweak the protocol in the middle of the experiment:  “we hypothesize that younger patients will benefit more than older patients.” Perhaps the results weren’t going well enough?

              Do you read my site Gee Aye?

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              b.nice

              “Patients who had had symptoms of Covid-19 for up to 7 days “

              So even the title of the study is incorrect.. . making the whole paper meaningless.

              People I know have kicked CV-19 in a few days. This study is giving IVM after that.. oops !!

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          R.B

          You claimed it was conclusive proof and yet you need to be very subjective as to what is a high quality trial in order to put forward a convincing argument.

          And even that paper you reference says “unclear” rather than claims that it was conclusive.

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            Bozotheclown

            I agree.

            Simon is the worst of the unrepentant free speech cons here. He suggests: “conclusive proof” and then there is none.

            I suggest he is not interested in proof at all.

            He has been a regular and unrepentant liar. I would like to know why he is allowed here at all.

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          Leo G

          The NEJM refereeing system is independent and extremely rigorous, which is why the paper took so long to get through peer review.

          Once two suitable reviewers are found, the NEJM requires each review to be completed within 2 weeks.
          There is however a logical inconsistency in the requirements of the refereeing system: professional conflicts of interest by a referee to a paper’s topic are disallowed. More of a convenient absurdity in my view.

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      Peter C

      The article is titled : Early Treatment of Covid 19, yet Ivermectin was not used until at least day 7.

      Therefore the trial proves nothing.

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        RightOverLabour

        Precisely The real proof is the low rates of Covid in Africa who are virtually unvaxed, and the successes of trials in India and Brazil and other parts of the world. The anti-Ivermectin bunch are just nutters.

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      another ian

      This one by any chance?

      https://joannenova.com.au/2022/03/how-to-design-a-study-to-fail-to-create-bad-pr-on-ivermectin-plus-a-lesson-in-white-lies-from-the-wall-street-journal/

      IIRC don’t both NEJM and the Lancet have a retraction history in that area?

      And for those “gold standard trials” there is the one on the non-effectiveness of parachutes

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      Leo G

      Patients who had had symptoms of Covid-19 for up to 7 days and had at least one risk factor for disease progression were randomly assigned to receive ivermectin (400 μg per kilogram of body weight) once daily for 3 days or placebo.

      The standard for conclusive proof isn’t what it used to be.
      That total dosage is at least 3 times the dosage used to treat parasitic infections in humans, far in excess of its FDA-approved usage, and approaching the lower threshold of the hypothecated 50% Lethal Dose range in humans.

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        Furiously+Curious

        If it was 3X the recommended dose for parasites, they were giving the dose that FLCCC was recommending for delta. But FLCCC give a for longer time period. According to Dr Jackie Stone people have taken massive doses in Africa with minor effects.

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          Leo G

          According to Dr Jackie Stone people have taken massive doses in Africa with minor effects.

          Parasitic infections and SARS-CoV-2 can each can elevate liver enzymes- a situation that increases risk with ivermectin use. Treatment for parasitic infections in Africa is overwhelmingly for people who have latent infections whereas more than 30% of hospitalised covid patients have active liver involvement.

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        another ian

        IIRC with Vitamin I the recommended dose is about 1/250th of the LD50

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      b.nice

      First study discredits itself in its first paragraph. see #5.2

      Second one is a paid NYT opinion piece.

      Missed again !

      Now off you stagger to get your 4th and 5th vax jab… enjoy your little game of pseudo Russian Roulette.

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    Dave

    I was thinking of the question Jo asked a couple of articles ago.
    What does NWO stand for.
    Everyone may have a different take on this New World Order.

    But for me it’s fairly simple.

    Why does Australia bow down to IPCC about CO2 reduction
    Why do we pay huge amounts for investment by taxpayers to Wind, Solar and Batteries.
    Plus the new Savoir of the world Hydrogen.

    All because BOM, ABC & CSIRO tell us we going to burn up.

    They couldn’t even predict last floods in Gympie and now Lismore etc.

    But these dipsticks can tell us the temperature in 100 years using Thermomixed data and computer models.

    FFS, they have to be audited and quickly before we’re all back to gensets, wood and kero lights.

    That’s my take on NWO, and it means we’re listening to garbage from rich little bureaucrats that never leave their A/C offices and get chauffeur driven home in Tesla’s.

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    Furiously+Curious

    Trying to be a bit creative, thinking about “climate change”, that is being tossed out there so mindlessly.
    https://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected]/51972608039/in/dateposted-public/
    I was thinking about going through my house, and sticking “climate change” labels on everything. Why not? It seems to pop up with any change of the weather. It is becoming ubiquitous. Surely there is a $25 000 arts grant available. just waiting for some high concept art?
    https://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected]/51972607659/in/dateposted-public/

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    mike+reed

    mike reed
    Hi Simon then the real world experiment in the Indian state of Uttar Pradesh with 241 million people means nothing !! However rates of infection /cases after introducing
    Ivermectin as a treatment made western countries with superior health care systems look positively Third World.
    Cheers Mike Reed

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    Furiously+Curious

    Ventusky weather maps of the two events. What a lovely set up. Anyone want to explain the AGW mechanisms at work here. We could make it a bit more complicated, by wondering why Nth Qland has so far had no cyclones this year. Just making the challenge a bit more juicy. Some blinding insights will be very welcome.
    https://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected]/51973482060/in/dateposted-public/

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    TedM

    Felt lousy this morning so I did a rats test at 6am as I knew that I had been exposed. Test came back negative. Later in the day started to feel like Cr** so did another test at 4pm. Strong positive. Got to isolate for 7 days. I won’t bee sorry for this to be over. Just started to run a temperature. Update later. I’m doing everything that Simon and PF say is useless, so I know I’m on the right track.

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      I trust that means aggressive early treatment to keep the viral loads down? Nasal sprays, mouthwash, Big D3, Vit A dosing for a few days. I would also consider curcumin, melatonin, quercetin, NAC, Zinc, C. Licorice and Lavender tea. Ginger, Garlic, Green tea. Mostly because “what’s the harm” — but there are medical papers, in silico and in vitro studies suggesting they might help. Let us know how you get on. Best wishes.

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        TedM

        Pretty good summary Jo. Need to throw quercetin + bromelain in with the mix. I have yet to try the lavender or the licorice. I introduced a previously sceptical friend to gargle, mouthwash and nasal spray to day. Also to vitamin D. It was interesting to see the attitude change when they tested positive. The person is diabetic, and was obviously concerned.

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        TedM

        I’ll keep you posted. I am pretty sick. Headache, spine and hips on fire, strong chills. The truth is that this is exactly how I was affected whenever I have had a bad flu. Interesting that the medical advice that I was given was paracetemol, ibuprofen and lots of water. I have progressively accumulated natural medications as I have listened to FLCCC Drs. I’ve accumulated more than I need in case I need to help others. By the way if anyone needs to get a nasal sprayer you can get them online from “snottynoses”. $9.95 a sprayer.

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          robert rosicka

          The wifey tested positive and was suffering flu symptoms while I also got a touch of something but just enough for a runny nose for half a day and aches and pains . I was ok after two days and the only things I did different were mouthwash before getting sick and an anti histamine after first symptom. I never ended up testing positive after several rat tests over a week . Wife still has some symptoms after a month or so and I was unvaxxed . Wife had two shots and was due for booster when she got sick .

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          I hope it improves for you Ted

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        Don B

        Jo, did you intentionally not mention Ivermectin?

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          b.nice

          I think Jo has concentrated on what is actually available easily.
          Not what is essentially an illegal remedy, because of the fact that it works.. 😉

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        Jim+Barker

        I think you left out antihistamines. Claritin, etc.

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        TedM

        It’s the morning after Jo and all who comment here. Still got the aches but ameliorated with medications. I’ve got gastro this morning, my transverse colon is on fire. Yesterday I had a dry cough, this morning I’m coughing up mucus. Not a lot though, at least not as yet. So I’ve increased my NAC, and have bromhexine on standby.

        This thing (Omicron) is just so easy to transmit. Just a bit of history of my case. On Monday I did a return trip to Busselton (SW Western Australia), about an hour and a half each way. I travelled with a friend Wayne. While there we spent about an hour having coffee with mutual friends. On Tuesday Morning, Wayne myself and three others spent about an hour and a half prepping our local RSL kitchen for tiling. On Wednesday Morning I was travelling out of town to visit a friend who is 5 months off his 100th birthday. I then got a call from Wayne telling me that he had tested positive. Obviously I didn’t visit my almost 100 year old friend. Went home tested myself: negative. Got a call from a lady who had helped with the tiling prep that she was positive. Then a call from another one that they were positive. All who were involved in the tiling prep now have covid. All in our 70’s almost all veterans.

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          Thanks for the update Ted. Interesting. Certainly there is a lot more evidence of “peak” covid conditions here in WA. You sound like you are well prepared.

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        John Connor II

        Just a side note here. The “licorice” you typically buy is more licorice flavour candy than the real thing. If you do happen to get the real thing then be sure NOT to consume to excess. Covid will be pleasant in comparison to what you risk..

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    another ian

    “Now Russian TV host calls for ‘regime change’ in US after Biden demanded Putin be removed from power – and clamors for ‘partner’ Donald Trump to be reinstated as president”

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10666625/Russian-state-TV-host-called-former-President-Donald-Trump-reinstated.html

    Via SDA

    Just a sporting reply to “Biden’s inadvertent sporting gesture”

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      PeterS

      What’s good for the goose is good for the gander. To be honest though it makes a lot more sense to remove Biden than to remove Putin beacuse Biden is more of a threat to world peace than anyone else on the planet. Whether he is just a demented fool or is steered by puppet masters (very likely both) makes no difference. He is extremely dangerous given he is supposed to be the leader of the most powerful nation. Then again, after reading this article below, one wonders would it matter who is the POTUS? Probably not.
      The World’s Evil Factory
      I have to disagree with him on one point he made: “USA is not the good guys and neither the Russians nor the Chinese are the bad guys anymore.” They are all the bad guys.

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      TedM

      One smart TV host.

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    Ian

    Yesterday I, regrettably, commented on the difference between sex and gender. I say regrettably because it was off topic and stimulated rather more interest than I had imagined. Quite properly I was taken to task by Jo to whom I apologised. The comment I made was in response to David Maddison with whom I had some discussion. This post recaps upon and continues with yesterday’s discussion.

    “DM iet me begin by saying how much I appreciate your civility in this exchange of opinions. It is so very different from many of such exchanges here.

    On March 31 at 10.28 am In 1.2.1.1.1 you wrote:

    “It’s a 2005 article. Not that old. The woke agenda was thoroughly set in by then.

    Show me something from last century that makes the distinction, well, say pre-1990.”

    Although the article was published in 2005 its content reaches much further back than that as the material below shows.

    “In the journals of the American Physiological Society, gender was first introduced into a title in 1982, whereas sex had been used since the early 1920s. It was not until the mid-1990s that use of the term gender began to exceed use of the term sex in APS titles,
    The term gender appears to have undergone appropriation by some scientists as a politically correct way to talk about sex. This may be because some scientists are sensitive to the verity that discussing sex often means discussing difference and gender may be construed as a less loaded term.

    Accordingly, it is imperative that scientists and editors come to a consensus on these terms to alleviate any confusion in their usage. These words have specifically different etymologies and meanings. In the most basic sense, sex is biologically determined and gender is culturally determined.
    After the late 20th century legislation on sex-based research initiatives, the IOM established the Committee on Understanding the Biology of Sex and Gender Difference to outline the most important issues and establish future direction for sex-based research (1). Included in this essential IOM report was a recommendation for using the terms sex and gender in research.
    The recommendation identified by the 2001 IOM report calls for researchers to clarify and be specific in their use of the terms sex and gender in publications and, by doing so, create consistency across the literature. The Committee provided three guidelines for using sex and gender correctly in human and animal research. First, in the study of human subjects, the term sex should be used as a classification according to the reproductive organs and functions that derive from the chromosomal complement. Second, in the study of human subjects, the term gender should be used to refer to a person’s self-representation as male or female, or how that person is responded to by social institutions on the basis of the individual’s gender presentation. Third, in most studies of nonhuman animals the term sex should be used.”
    As is apparent the use the term gender has been in use since before 1990 and was not coined by or foisted on society by Leftists.

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      Grogery

      Wow Ian, lots of words. How did today’s society get so confused?

      Let’s simplify things:

      Penis=Male
      Vagina=Female

      Now if parents just get back to teaching that to their children early in life, everything will be ok.

      In reality, the “gender” issue applies to an absolute minority.

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        Hanrahan

        Maybe “Show me yours and I’ll show you mine” had more going for it than we imagined.

        Wouldn’t it be nice if younguns could be that innocent still.

        BTW I hope I’m only talking about the US.

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        Destroyer D69

        Sex is in your pants— Gender is in your mind????

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      YWNBAW

      Dr John Money coined the theory of gender as a way of obfuscating the boundary between genuine transsexuals and fetishist transvestites
      He was also a paedo

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        Fran

        Money thought that you could change a person’s gender identity such that babies with anomolous genitalia could be brought up the sex that was easiest to achieve with surgical intervention. When on of a pair of male twins was severely damaged during circumcision, he advised castration and bringing the child up as a girl, complete with female hormones at the time of puberty. Money’s problems emerged when the “girl” was unhappy and reverted to being a man. He eventually committed suicide.

        His experiments are now seen as proof that gender (sexual) identity is based on biology. It is likely that pre and post birth hormone are the basis for >99% congruency between identity and biological sex. The botched circumcision was performed at 8 months. Male babies have very high testosterone levels during this period which must contribute to male brain development.

        There is no evidence that Money was a pedophile, although his therapy sessions did utilize sexual play. Was he any worse than those promoting teaching multiple genders to kindergarden kids?

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          Kalm Keith

          Hi Fran.

          In my deleted comment I described very briefly the origins of sexual dysmorphia as being damage done to the phoetus during the time in the womb.

          Broadly speaking the damage can result in two extremes with a range of incomplete organ formation in between.
          You can have a male body with female brain or female body with male brain.
          This detail has been available for about 25 years but I think that very few doctors currently are familiar with it and we even have specialists playing super heroes and using hormone therapy and other nip and tuck interventions that are mostly pointless.
          Structural damage in the womb is most likely too complex to repair by surgery or hormone therapy.
          Male and female brains are structurally and functionally different.

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          Kalm Keith

          Another attempt to post.

          As with the word gay the term gender has been hijacked and modernised so as to become either incomprehensible or meaningless.

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      Kalm Keith

      I also would like to Apologise to all who read and contribute to this blog and to all who have read and contributed and will read and contribute in the past, present and future.

      True, my comment which was “redacted” yesterday for its proximity to the top of the blog, was tangentially related to the thread topic but still very pertinent to illustrating how “misinformation” is woven through the fabric of modern society.

      Many comments appear at the top but are untouched; this example from KK up north, not me as I don’t live near Koalas, has been seen as inappropriate by many here;

      Count the reds,
      https://joannenova.com.au/2022/03/thursday-open-thread-95/#comment-2533654

      KK

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      Fran

      Gender was not originally introduced to indicate identity that was culturally derived – it started out as simply a synonym for sex. The concept of gender identity was introduced because it became apparent that in rare cases sexual identification could be divergent from biological sex. From a theoretical perspective, this implied that it was separate from biological sex. Gender identity emerges in early childhood and its expression depends on the surrounding culture: it is not a product of the culture.

      The term “gender” without the qualifying “identity” has been high jacked to refer to everything from sexual preferences to cross dressing for fun, and on into deciding to “be” the other sex following full surgical conversion with hormonal treatments.

      The fact that >99% of the time gender identity and biological sex are congruent is strong support for the notion that it has a biological basis. It is also independent of things like higher levels of activity in some girls (tomboys) or “artistic” tendencies in girls. These latter may indicate a higher likelyhood of sexual attraction to the same sex, but they do not predict being unsure about whether you are a man or a woman. This is the core of the conflict between the “transgender” camp and the straightforward homosexual group (nb,the latter is far more frequent and it is possible that disgust toward homosexuality is partially driving the current fashion to try to be the opposite sex.)

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        Kalm Keith

        Well put Fran.

        What amazes and disturbs me is the studied ignorance of the issue by society at large.

        Sadly this includes the medical fraternity which seems unwilling to comprehend the fact that damaged people are biologically damaged at birth and are not to blame for their plight.
        The highly emotional and politicised LGBTQIR uprising a few years back did nothing for those suffering but certainly helped further polarize the community which only benefited the political class.

        If a person in a male body speaks like a woman because they have a female brain then they are only doing what was natural for them.

        The damage was done during pregnancy and if any fault is to be allocated it is to the situation which caused the damaging stress in the mother. Conflict and alcohol are to be avoided during pregnancy.

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        Kalm Keith

        As with the word gay the term gender has been hijacked and modernised so as to become either incomprehensible or meaningless.

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          Serp

          Try telling that to proponents of SOGI which last time I looked is an intrinsic part of Labor’s political platform.

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      b.nice

      “sex” is description of DNA and how the body is built.. it is reality. (except in rare cases)

      “gender” is about what you want to “feeeel” you are…
      It is all in the mind, hence the confusion of “genders”.

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        Ian

        ““gender” is about what you want to “feeeel” you are…
        It is all in the mind, hence the confusion of “genders”.”

        Well put

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      Serp

      It’s all of a piece with the activities of the crew which superseded BC with BCE in the process adding nothing to overall understanding of the area of study; reminiscent of the Leunig cartoon on care of your cocky recommending one “cut off his crest to make him look neat”.

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    RicDre

    White House Walks Back Statement That No One Is Walking Back Statements, Ripping Open Hole In Space-Time Continuum

    March 30th, 2022 – BabylonBee.com

    https://babylonbee.com/news/white-house-walks-back-statement-that-no-one-is-walking-back-statements-ripping-open-hole-in-space-time-continuum?utm_source=Gab&utm_medium=link&utm_campaign=Gab

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    RicDre

    Part 5 of the series Australia’s Broken Temperature Record – All 224 Homogenised Temperature Series – Including the Bombing of Darwin

    Reposted from Jennifer Marohasy’s Blog

    https://wattsupwiththat.com/2022/03/31/all-224-homogenised-temperature-series-including-the-bombing-of-darwin/

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    RicDre

    Fox Corp’s Lachlan Murdoch slams Big Tech censorship, COVID lockdowns in speech touting Australian ‘identity’

    By Joseph A. Wulfsohn | Fox News

    The Fox Corporation CEO defended Australian freedom, something he said was being restricted during the pandemic

    https://www.foxnews.com/media/lachlan-murdoch-big-tech-censorship-covid-lockdowns-australia-speech

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    To look at the Covid situation worldwide:
    https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/
    gives the Covid deaths per million of population for 200 countries.
    For the 48 countries with the lowest death rates, the range is minimum 3 deaths, maximum 131 deaths and mean 51 deaths.
    For the 48 countries with the highest death rates, the range is minimum 1967 deaths, maximum 6281 deaths and mean 2976 deaths, clearly an entirely different cohort.

    The website:
    https://www.pharmaceutical-technology.com/covid-19-vaccination-tracker/
    gives the vaccination total doses, doses/1000 and % fully vaccinated for 218 countries.
    From these files, the 48 countries with the lowest deaths had a minimum doses/1000 of zero, maximum 2332 and mean 463.
    For the 48 countries with the greatest number of deaths, the minimum doses/1000 was 248, maximum 3451 and mean 1451.
    The 48 countries with the least deaths had a minimum % fully vaccinated of zero%, maximum 88% and mean 19%.
    For the 48 countries with the most deaths, the minimum % fully vaccinated was 2%, maximum 122% and mean 59%.

    These clearly show that the Covid deaths arose in proportion to the number of doses of vaccine given or the percentage of the population that are vaccinated, that is, the vaccine has possibly been the cause of the Covid deaths.

    [Bevan, the spam filter took a liking to you today. No particular reason I could see. ]ED

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    Hanrahan

    Lachlan who?

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    CHRIS

    I give up. I use Minties to keep the COVID virus at bay. Just as good as ginger tea etc etc etc. Really, this COVID garbage is yesterday’s news. It’s a virus…so what?? GET OVER IT, and GET ON WITH YOUR LIFE.

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    Lance

    An interesting animation ( 2.5 min ) about society’s relationship with mobile phones.

    Mobile World by Steve Cutts, 2 sources:

    https://vimeo.com/236203142

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wUW1wjlKvmY

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      David Maddison

      Yes, that’s very good.

      There’s a reason they are called “cell” phones. (As in prison cell.)

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    David Maddison

    If you let the government break the law because of an “emergency”, they will always create an “emergency” to break the law.

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      PeterS

      Excellent point. Yet people keep voting for one or the other major party to perpetuate the downward spiral. Go figure.

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    David Maddison

    Jesse Waters talks about the Biden laptop, under 11mins.

    https://youtu.be/26IgNQ4RaCQ

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    David Maddison

    NOTICE!
    April Fools’ Day has been cancelled as it’s no longer a challenge to fool anybody.

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    PeterS

    Ironic how the tables have turned. Russia not long ago was a communist country that failed and turned back to their roots to be a Christian one again albeit with many flaws. The West founded on Christian values albeit with many flaws is now turning to a mixture of socialism/communism/fascism. The West hates Russia as it always has “to destroy, break, annihilate, strangle the Russian economy, and Russia on the whole.”
    Russia was once a communist state where its economic theory sought to impose on the entire world just as Klaus Schwab is doing right now through the World Economic Forum and the “Great Reset” which required the submission of the entire world just as Khruschev once said. Those days are gone but the Neocons need an enemy and despite the fact that Russia is no longer a communist threat, they do not care – Russia will always be their enemy.

    Biden has launched a proxy war against Russia, that could turn into a full scale war. God help us all.

    Biden Needs to Be Impeached for Violating the Constitution Impacting the World

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    PeterS

    It’s not that hard to see much if not all of the following is true.

    Sanctions Against Oligarchs Are Doing Putin a Favor

    Some losses are incurred by those whose accounts are frozen or whose businesses are handicapped. A few Russian oligarchs may lose their yachts, but guess what? Putin doesn’t like the oligarchs anyway.

    We’re actually doing Putin a favor by clipping the oligarchs’ wings. Putin’s power comes from the military and security services, not the oligarchs.
    ….

    Putin’s Many Moves Ahead of Biden

    This is how judo works. You use your enemy’s power against him by avoiding the main attack and turning the tables. Putin’s a judo expert in real life and he just demonstrated that he can practice it in economic warfare. The West will now be engaged in propping up the ruble after they did so much to destroy it.

    Putin thinks many moves ahead on the chessboard while Biden is playing pin the tail on the donkey, blindfolded.

    Sanctions ultimately harm everyday citizens and consumers most. Inflation is surging in Russia and the United States because of the sanctions. But the pain on the American people has only begun. It’s about to get much worse.

    U.S. consumers and investors will suffer as prices soar, growth lags and stocks collapse.

    This is all unpleasant news for Western warmongers. But it’s critical for investors to know what’s actually going on so they don’t lose money in the chaos to come.

    The best information is that the war in Ukraine will last longer than most expect, will produce supply chain disruptions and will amplify the inflation that’s already present.

    In the end, Putin will prevail in Ukraine, while the Ukrainian people and Western consumers will pay the heaviest price.

    I’ve Never Heard So Many Lies

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      b.nice

      “Biden is playing pin the tail on the donkey,”

      Is he a contortionist ?

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        PeterS

        He’s blindfolded so he wouldn’t even know. We might watch and laugh but don’t forget he is the “leader” of the Western world, and he’s doing a great job trying to crash and burn it, with the help of a lot of other people, including our very own PM Morrison, and perhaps soon Albanese who fits in with the Western cabal’s agenda even more closely. Doesn’t anyone else see how odd it is the people vote in more draconian and more left leaning leaders of late? Instead we should be voting for more real conservative right of centre people in our parliaments, not the other way. There is certainly no shortage of such candidates in our nation – there are a few good candidates who would kick both major parties in a real fight for our rights and freedoms in the name of libertarianism against the manipulative and deceitful leaders of late.

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      Fran

      Today’s Daily Mail says Putin is now insisting Europe pay for gas in roubles. Now the fun will really begin.

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        PeterS

        It gets stranger than that. Russia, China and a growing list of other countries are looking at dispensing with the US dollar and trading with each other using another currency of their own. The sanctions are only going to backfire on the West BIG TIME in so many ways Russia and China won’t need to declare war on the West. They can just sit it out and possibly see the West crash and burn from within. SOme would say that’s the intent all along. Perhaps but the end result is the issue, not so much how we get there. The real problem then is how do we stop it? The ballot box is fast becoming useless given how most people are still asleep.

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        b.nice

        And the only place they can get a big supply of roubles, are Russian banks 🙂

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          RicDre

          I read that Russsia is offering a compromise by allowing the EU to pay in euros or dollars to the Gazprom bank which they would then convert to rubles. Assuming that they use the current exchange rates, I don’t see how that would be a problem for the EU.

          … However, in a call with German Chancellor Olaf Scholz on Wednesday, Putin said European companies could continue paying for gas supplies in euros or dollars.

          The money will be paid into Gazprom Bank and transferred in rubles to Russia, German broadcaster Deutsche Well reported. …

          https://www.cnbc.com/2022/03/31/europe-energy-russia-appears-to-soften-its-gas-for-rubles-demand.html

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    PeterS

    But OUR Public School is Great

    No, it isn’t. It really, really isn’t. The public schools have further degenerated from providing intellectual lobotomies to outright pushing open satanry…..

    Too a large extent I have to agree given what I know as a husband of a casual teacher and what she has been telling me over the years about her experiences at some schools, especially very recently.

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    PeterS

    Needs greater scrutiny as correlation is not causation but it’s too much of a coincidence to neglect the obvious given the rest of the articles below, and much more about the alarming number and severity of ill side effects being reported from victims of the COVID-19 vaccines.
    Bruce Willis Developed Aphasia After Being Vaccinated: “Aphasia is a Language Disorder caused by Damage in a Specific Area of the Brain.”

    Other articles…

    Pfizer Docs Reveal Fraud, Racketeering, RICO & More – Could Face Serious Legal Repercussions

    “The lights are going out all over Europe,” with governments ARRESTING “vaccine” dissidents

    Most of those “sudden deaths” from Covid Vaccines go unreported by the media

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    PeterS

    It has been said on a number of sites that the Covid-19 pandemic + Climate change “crisis” = The Great Reset.
    More accurate to say the Covid-19 pandemic + Climate change “crisis” + war on Russia + The Great Reset = a NWO engineered by the West, which might fail and allow Russia and China to instigate their own version of a NWO. Time will tell.

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      David Maddison

      Yesterday, Jo wanted a tighter definition of NWO (New World Order), and fair enough. Conservatives have to strive to be facts oriented at all times, unlike our opponents.

      One element of the NWO, a term freely used for a long time since WW1 and most prominently in more recent times by George H.W. Bush and many other mainstream politicians, is The Great Reset. That is not a conspiracy theory and was in fact the name given to the 50th annual meeting of the World Economic Forum (WEF), held in June 2020.

      Herr Klaus Schwabb, the US$1 million per year salary champion of the Left also wrote a book by the same name.

      Schwab, Klaus; Malleret, Thierry (2020). COVID-19 : the great reset (1 ed.). Cologny/Geneva Schweiz: Forum Publishing. ISBN 9782940631124. OCLC 1193302829.

      He describes (quoting Wikipedia):

      -The creation of a “stakeholder economy”.

      -Building in a more “resilient, equitable, and sustainable” way—based on environmental, social, and governance (ESG) metrics which would incorporate more green public infrastructure projects.

      -The third component is to “harness the innovations of the Fourth Industrial Revolution” for public good.

      END OF QUOTE.

      Like all good propaganda, all of those elements are designed to sound innocent enough but will allow the Left/Elites to exercise the total control of society they so desperately seek and which COVID and the supposed “climate emergency” have given them the excuse to exploit.

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        PeterS

        It is impossible to get a tight definition of NWO without experiencing it yet. We will just have wait and see what it will look like. We can and I have discussed a variety of them at a high level but I repeat, it is a waste of time defining it now in too much detail. It’s simply not here yet. Be patient 🙂

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          PeterS — we can always rely on you to surrender now, surrender later, surrender again.

          Yes people, says PeterS — don’t even try to figure out definitions or fight back, or aim for a rational conversation “just wait”, “be patient” til it’s too late, then obey your masters like fatalistic PeterS apparently wants to.

          Peter, you may be tired and worried, and you may want forgiveness for giving up. You won’t find it on this site.

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            PeterS

            Still twisting things around I see. I’ve only surrendered to God.

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              No Peter. I only asked you to define your terms in English, and you said it’s a waste of time — “just be patient” and wait and see what the NWO will be.

              If you were at least praying for a good outcome that would be better than forecasts of doom and passive acceptance.

              Proverbs 12:24 “The hand of the diligent will rule, while the slothful will be put to forced labor.”

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        el+gordo

        ‘Like all good propaganda, all of those elements are designed to sound innocent enough … ‘

        All too often we mix political culture and economics, so if we accept (for argument sake) that the NWO will be socialism with Chinese characteristics, we can focus on commerce in a digital world.

        ‘The Stakeholder Economy & The Prospects Of Collective Ownership

        ‘Brands have become decentralized — the memes, content, and daily conversations of the masses increasingly define a brand. The next generation of projects and businesses are also on a path to becoming decentralized — where new blockchain-driven organizational constructs turn owners and customers into a community of stakeholders. This confluence of decentralization will advantage emerging brands and local businesses, and could prove to be the most disruptive force against the internet behemoths and global marketplaces that rule the world. Yes, a bold proclamation, but bear with me here… ‘ (Scott Belsky)

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    PeterS

    The Devil Mouse is not appropriate for the children of the West. It is unrepentant, inversive evil.

    Disney Executives Admit: Of Course We’re Grooming Your Children

    The on top of all that they want them vaccinated with deadly experiential vaccines! Is it any wonder why those who are awake can see how evil the West along with the rest of the world is becoming?

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    PeterS

    Just as I thought politicians are becoming more and more narcissistic against those who desire to reveal the truth. I can see the day when people here on this blog and may other sites like it who speak out against the government of the day will be tracked down and arrested. That might appear to be far fetched but let’s wait and see how far we go down the plug hole over the coming years. I would not be at all surprised if that’s how low we go.
    Illegal To Criticize Politicians In Germany

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    PeterS

    Applebee’s Uses High Gas Prices To Lower Wages

    He actually gives a good explanation as to why the wages of ordinary people (ie, excluding politicians, business executives and the like) are being capped as much as possible while the cost of living is going through the roof. We are rapidly approaching a regime change using China and others as models.

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    David Maddison

    Are the uninjected (for covid), who don’t have an almost-impossible-to-get exemption, ever going to be allowed to leave Australia?

    If not, why not?

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    another ian

    “Up From The Memory Hole”

    “One year ago today – Biden’s CDC Director “Vaccinated people do not carry the virus”

    http://www.smalldeadanimals.com/2022/03/31/up-from-the-memory-hole-3/

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    Neville

    More proof that their so called EXISTENTIAL THREAT or CRISIS etc is just more man made nonsense and we should doubt everything about this CON TRICK by the CON merchants.
    Another new satellite is now available to monitor SLR data and yet there seems to be ZIP real difference to the present satellites.
    The global tide gauges still show about 1 to 2 mm SLR year ( 4 inches to 8 inches by 2122) and are more important and accurate for all countries than their adjusted satellite data.
    Even Josh Willis'( NOAA) statement about losing track of the satellite data is beyond belief and we can thank Kip Hansen for trying to unravel this ongoing mystery for us.
    I hope Jo and David have the time to read this article and the many interesting comments from Dave Burton and Rud Istvan etc.

    https://wattsupwiththat.com/2022/03/31/sentinel-6-new-international-sea-level-satellite/

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      Neville

      BTW here’s Prof Humlum’s and some other references about Satellite and tide gauges differences for SLR.

      “Data from tide gauges all over the world
      suggest an average global sea-level rise of
      1–2mm/year, while the satellite-derived record
      (Figure 35) suggests a rise of about 3.3mm/
      year, or more. The difference between the two
      datasets (a ratio of about 1:2) is remarkable but
      has no generally accepted explanation. It is,
      however, known that satellite observations face
      complications in coastal areas. Vignudelli et al.
      (2019) provide an updated overview of the current limitations of classical satellite altimetry in
      coastal regions. Goklany (2021) provides several additional reflections on ongoing sea-level
      change”. page 37, End of quote.

      https://www.thegwpf.org/content/uploads/2021/05/State-of-the-Climate-2020.pdf

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        Neville

        To add to the hubris or exaggeration of the accuracy of SLR as measured by satellites we must remember that even low level orbit satellites have a height of 180 klms to 2,000 klms above the Earth.
        And never forget that wave heights of the oceans can vary by many metres and yet they still claim an accuracy of 1 mm?
        Who believes this nonsense and why wouldn’t we just take the reliable, observable tide gauge data on the coastlines from around the world?
        Who would trust the satellite SL data and why do we want to waste endless TRILLIONs of $ on this fantasy?
        Here’s the link to NASA satellite orbits.
        So far we’re fairly sure that the global tide gauge SLR will be about 4 to 8 inches by 2122 or about the same as the last 100 years.
        Does anyone not understand the data?

        https://earthobservatory.nasa.gov/features/OrbitsCatalog

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          Leo G

          Who believes this nonsense and why wouldn’t we just take the reliable, observable tide gauge data on the coastlines from around the world?

          Indeed. It’s apparent that even the agencies using satellite altimetry to measure ocean topography don’t trust the use of the data to measure sea level rise. Every few years the satellite mean sea level rise measurement results are “recalibrated” so that the gradient of the series matches a select set of ground stations and tide gauges.

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    Kalm Keith

    Why does this continue.

    https://joannenova.com.au/2022/03/thursday-open-thread-95/#comment-2533763

    It’s pure and simple Verbalism.

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    RicDre

    ‘I Can’t Work With This Man’—After Repeated Gaffes, Biden’s Teleprompter Resigns In Disgust

    March 31st, 2022 – BabylonBee.com

    https://babylonbee.com/news/i-cant-work-with-this-man–after-repeated-gaffes-bidens-teleprompter-resigns-in-disgust?utm_source=Gab&utm_medium=link&utm_campaign=Gab

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      yarpos

      I wonder how people who do signing for the deaf wade through the garbage coming from Biden and Harris.

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    OldOzzie

    US thanks Russia for returning astronaut to earth

    NASA grateful for Roscosmos’ safe return of astronaut Mark Vande Hei

    NASA has thanked its Russian counterpart, Roscosmos, for safely returning American astronaut Mark Vande Hei to Earth from the International Space Station on schedule.

    Vande Hei returned to earth with his fellow ISS passengers, Pyotr Dubrov and Anton Shkaplerov of Russia, on Wednesday, arriving in a Soyuz capsule right on schedule. The trio were flown back to the Russian launch facilities at Baikonur, Kazakhstan, and Vande Hei will return home to Houston from there.

    Vande Hei has officially become the longest-traveling American astronaut in space since launching to the ISS with Dubrov in April 2021. Both have orbited Earth 5,680 times, traveling over 150 million miles.

    Thanking “our Roscosmos partners,” NASA Associate Administrator of the Human Exploration and Operations Mission Directorate Kathy Lueders spoke of the two countries’ space teams as a single unit, declaring in a virtual press conference on Thursday that, “We safely brought Mark Vande Hei home.”

    Even as Washington has struggled to prohibit Russian access to aerospace and technology goods with round after round of punishing sanctions, NASA does not appear to have changed its plans regarding sending American crew members to the ISS, and apparently still hopes to keep the space station “international.”

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      OldOzzie

      US exempts critical Russian commodity from sanctions

      Washington aims to protect farmers from fertilizer shortages

      Washington has eased sanctions on Russian agricultural products, including fertilizers, placed on Moscow over the crisis in Ukraine. The move aims to protect US farmers from a shortage of chemical products as food prices in the country continue to soar.

      The Office of Foreign Assets Control (OFAC) of the US Treasury recently published a new general license dated March 24, which effectively removed restrictions on the import of Russian fertilizers.

      The document authorized transactions relating to the exportation and re-exportation of agricultural commodities, banned last month by Washington’s ‘Russian Harmful Foreign Activities Sanctions Regulations’.

      The list of agro-related products now exempt from sanctions includes food for humans, live animals, vitamins and minerals, food additives and supplements, seeds for food crops, fertilizers, and reproductive materials.

      Exemptions also cover medicine, medical devices, software updates, and replacement parts for medical devices and Covid-19-related medical components.

      Analysts say the EU may soon mirror the measure.

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    Furiously+Curious

    Nurse sent to jail for medical mistake. This will help their medical system!?

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7hKy0y3RbZw

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    OldOzzie

    What happens if Russia turns off the gas taps to Europe

    Deadline approaches for switching payments to rubles

    1. What will happen after March 31?
    2. How much does Europe depend on Russian gas?
    3. What happens in Europe without Russian gas?
    4. What are the wider implications?
    5. Will oil prices be affected?
    6. Will Russia sell other commodities in rubles?
    7. Who will blink first as the payment deadline approaches?

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    OldOzzie

    China Takes Over the Solomon Islands — And the Pacific

    by Gordon G. Chang
    March 31, 2022

    For decades, Washington allowed Canberra and Wellington to manage the Solomons and its region, and both Western powers, through the corrosive combination of neglect and condescension, allowed China to make significant inroads. Beijing, through payoffs now detailed in public, essentially owns Sogavare’s government.

    The Framework Agreement also provides, in Article 1, that the “Solomon Islands, may, according to its own needs, request China to send police, armed police, military personnel, and other law enforcement and armed forces to Solomon Islands to assist in maintaining social order, protecting people’s lives and property, providing humanitarian assistance, carrying out disaster response, or providing assistance on other tasks agreed upon by the Parties.”

    Honiara on the 25th said it would keep its 2018 security agreement with Canberra in place, but it is evident that Sogavare is looking only to China for police and military assistance.

    Sogavare, backed by Beijing’s military and the Framework Agreement, can effectively end democracy in the Solomons. Paskal, who closely follows the Pacific, reports that the prime minister is trying to postpone elections. “If Sogavare can trigger a domestic security crisis, he will use that as an excuse to keep himself in power,” she notes. “China will help the prime minister provoke a civil war. That war will provide Sogavare an excuse to call in the Chinese military, according to the new agreement.”

    The Solomons are not an isolated instance of Chinese penetration of Pacific governments. There is now talk that China will ink a security agreement with Papua New Guinea, just north of Australia.

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    PeterS

    The way I see things at the moment the world would be a far better place if all our Western leaders chilled out and stopped their warmongering against us and the rest of the world. Their hatred of people everywhere is going off the charts.
    Vladimir Putin asks Australia who is really crazy

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    PeterS

    We just lost a good person who tried his best fighting against bad political decisions. I wish him well.
    George Christensen’s final SCORCHING speech to the Federal Parliament
    Can start at 15:00 but the rest is worth watching too.

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    John Connor II

    ‘Dark matter’ of human genome finally decoded, sequencing entirety of human DNA

    Scientists say they have finally assembled the full genetic blueprint for human life, adding the missing pieces to a puzzle nearly completed two decades ago.

    An international team described the first-ever sequencing of a complete human genome – the set of instructions to build and sustain a human being – in research published Thursday in the journal Science. The previous effort, celebrated across the world, was incomplete because DNA sequencing technologies of the day weren’t able to read certain parts of it. Even after updates, it was missing about 8% of the genome.

    “Some of the genes that make us uniquely human were actually in this ‘dark matter of the genome’ and they were totally missed,” said Evan Eichler, a University of Washington researcher who participated in the current effort and the original Human Genome Project. “It took 20-plus years, but we finally got it done.”

    https://www.kgw.com/article/tech/science/scientists-finish-decoding-entire-human-genome/507-a51debe2-064a-4320-a271-6f8b8948bd00

    Good! Now tell me what a woman is 😜

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    Robber

    Interesting to look at the contribution of solar to the AEMO grid over the last 12 months per OpenNEM.
    In the last week of June, solar delivered just 262 GWh, or an hourly average of 1,560 MW.
    And the lowest month was June, delivering 1,216 GWh, average 1,690 MW, while total average demand was 24,680 MW.
    Fortunately there were sufficient dispatchable generators available to keep the lights on.
    Not surprisingly, the biggest month for solar was December, 3,314 GWh, or 4,454 MW.
    But of course solar switched off in the evening, so dispatchable generators had to be ready to deliver to meet the evening demand.

    Now AGL has announced it is beginning the process of closing the first of four coal generator units at Liddell, taking 500 MW of dispatchable supply out of the grid by April 2023. In the last 24 hours, Liddell has been delivering a reliable 1,300 MW, with all four units operating.
    AGL says to replace Liddell: “As part of the new energy hub, AGL has announced a memorandum of understanding with Andrew Forrest’s Fortescue Future Industries to explore green hydrogen, a 500MW grid-scale battery and a hydro power station.” “AGL earlier this year said it would also bring forward the closure windows for its other coal-fired power stations – Bayswater (2,600 MW) and Loy Yang A (2,200MW).”

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    Ronin

    It was announced on ABC news today that Liddell had taken one unit offline and would decommission it.

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    Chris

    Alex Bereson has again posted an article relating to the failure of Ivermectin and again he has failed to notice the dosage given to the patients.

    In this trial people were given Ivermectin for three days at a dose of 400 ug per kilogram bodyweight / day. An ug is a microgram ; it is 1millionth of a gram or 1thousandth of a milligram. Normal dosages given are 3 or 4 milligrams / kilogram bodyweight.

    These poor people were given 1thousandth of the dosage given to people in other trials – no wonder it failed.

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      Lucky

      My info, largely from this site, is that the usual dose of ivermectin for viral conditions, is 200 microgram per kg of body weight.
      Note- packs come in 3mg and 12 mg sizes. 12mg would suit a 60kg adult, tho’ most adults could take 12mg with sufficient effectiveness and safety.

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      Serp

      Occasionally his behaviour justifies his having been nominated by Atlantic magazine as The Wrongest Man On The Internet; at such times one can only sigh and shake the head.

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    John Connor II

    …and another altruistic anti-human group pops up…

    There’s no shortage of already existing humans and other animals in need of safe and loving homes, as well as so many other forms of support.

    Let’s minimize our harm and maximize our goodwill and solidarity with living beings and the planet.

    http://www.stophavingkids.org

    There’s the added bonus that they’re bacon-hating vegans too…
    …and have ties to Gates/Schwab/WEF no doubt.

    Perhaps they should change the url to http://www.stophavingliberalloonies.com

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    John Connor II

    Vaxxed By Machines, Tracked By Machines: Humanity To Be Augmented One Cell At A Time

    This global mRNA vaxx experiment is about to ramp up dramatically. Pulling ahead of the pack, Moderna is currently developing mRNA vaccines for fifteen different diseases, from HIV and tuberculosis to malaria and the common flu. That means an endless array of experimental, barely tested vaccines will soon flood the market. If recent history is any guide, institutional mandates and digital vaxxport updates will follow close behind.

    This potential for rapid production and near-instant regulatory approval, reckless as it may be, was celebrated by the transhumanists at Singularity Hub:

    [mRNA is] faster, simpler, and more adaptable than any previous vaccine technology. Because they no longer rely on physical target proteins from a virus—rather, just the genetic code for those proteins—designing a vaccine just requires a laptop and some ingenuity. “The era of the digital vaccine is here,” wrote a team from GlaxoSmithKline.

    https://joebot.substack.com/p/vaxxed-by-machines-tracked-by-machines

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    John Connor II

    On the robotics front, AMECA is looking good. Give it a few years.
    Shades of Ex Machina…

    https://youtube.com/watch?v=Vg8uQcVDl2w

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    Thank you! I posted it from your attempt on the other not-quite-right-thread and gave you a hat tip.
    https://joannenova.com.au/2022/04/money-world-splits-into-two-is-this-the-end-of-an-era-of-us-dollar-as-reserve-currency/

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