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Totalitarian Medicine: The US government is effectively “fining” hospitals if they use Ivermectin or anything not approved

Finally, a detailed explanation of how bureaucrats are effectively deciding doctor patient decisions in hospitals throughout the US. Something that explains why hospitals are bafflingly working so hard to stop doctors using alternate protocols. Money.

There is a system of payments to hospitals that effectively punish them for using ivermectin or any other treatment outside the one permitted protocol. The amount of money involved is not disclosed but “Attorney Thomas Renz and CMS whistleblowers have calculated a total payment of at least $100,000 per patient.”

Hospitals must pay back these “bonus” payments if they use drugs outside the one approved protocol. Does it apply to vitamins too?

If the payments really are of this size, hospital management would be very effectively controlled, and there would be little competition, no free market, and only the illusion of choice.

The AAPS or Association of American Physicians and Surgeons started in 1943, and after 75 years, astonishingly still seems to be sticking to the original intent — speaking for doctors who want to serve patients and the freedom to do what they believe is best.

AAPS Logo, The Association of American Physicians and Surgeons

 

 

Biden’s Bounty on Your Life: Hospitals’ Incentive Payments for COVID-19

By Elizabeth Lee Vliet, M.D. and Ali Shultz, J.D.https://www.truthforhealth.org/

Patients are being imprisoned in hospitals:

The combination that enables this tragic and avoidable loss of hundreds of thousands of lives includes (1) The CARES Act, which provides hospitals with bonus incentive payments for all things related to COVID-19 (testing, diagnosing, admitting to hospital, use of remdesivir and ventilators, reporting COVID-19 deaths, and vaccinations) and (2) waivers of customary and long-standing patient rights by the Centers for Medicare and Medicaid Services (CMS).

Creating a “National Pandemic Emergency” provided justification for such sweeping actions that override individual physician medical decision-making and patients’ rights. The CARES Act provides incentives for hospitals to use treatments dictated solely by the federal government under the auspices of the NIH. These “bounties” must paid back if not “earned” by making the COVID-19 diagnosis and following the COVID-19 protocol.

The hospital payments include:

      • A “free” required PCR test in the Emergency Room or upon admission for every patient, with government-paid fee to hospital.
      • Added bonus payment for each positive COVID-19 diagnosis.
      • Another bonus for a COVID-19 admission to the hospital.
      • A 20 percent “boost” bonus payment from Medicare on the entire hospital bill for use of remdesivir instead of medicines such as Ivermectin.
      • Another and larger bonus payment to the hospital if a COVID-19 patient is mechanically ventilated.
      • More money to the hospital if cause of death is listed as COVID-19, even if patient did not die directly of COVID-19.
      • A COVID-19 diagnosis also provides extra payments to coroners.

Outside hospitals, physician MIPS quality metrics link doctors’ income to performance-based pay for treating patients with COVID-19 EUA drugs. Failure to report information to CMS can cost the physician 4% of reimbursement.

Because of obfuscation with medical coding and legal jargon, we cannot be certain of the actual amount each hospital receives per COVID-19 patient. But Attorney Thomas Renz and CMS whistleblowers have calculated a total payment of at least $100,000 per patient.

ht dadgervais

Some of the stories are truly harrowing

Veronica Wolski was effectively imprisoned in hospital for three weeks, denied the treatments her doctors ordered, forced to take treatments she did not want. A whole team of outside medical specialists came on board, hired lawyers, and did everything they could to get her out of the hospital. They even set up a team with an ambulance with equipment and medicines ready to transport her but the hospital would not release her and she died alone.

There is now a program called the Veronica Wolinski mobile care team — they are responding to requests from other patients trapped in hospitals they don’t want to be in around the US.

Final word: Obviously statistics in the US have been compromised hopelessly by these incentive payments, but bear in mind that statistics from other nations with other systems show the CCP coronavirus is a problem. The world is watching the Omicron numbers unfold and hoping that the new variant will be “the variant we’ve all been waiting for” and less malicious. We’re looking for hospitalization data from populations with older patients of both the vaccinated and unvaccinated kind. And it takes eight days for people to need hospital, and it may take longer for ADE reactions (where vaccinated people suffer a worse outcome.) Tick, tick, tick…

Beyond all that, the shocking corruption has to exposed. Spread the word.

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150 comments to Totalitarian Medicine: The US government is effectively “fining” hospitals if they use Ivermectin or anything not approved

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    LloydWW

    The NIH again? Did Fauci have a hand in drafting the CARES Act? It seems structured like an experimental protocol. Probably set up to look innocuous but once Trump was defeated it experienced a “gain of function?”…

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    Jo, I started following you when you focussed on the climate scam. But now you have added the COVID scam. Please keep at it!

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      Ted1

      If I remember right, Microbiology is Jo’s primary field of expertise. This is right up her alley.

      That is why she was right on the ball from the first days.

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        Analitik

        If anything, she is too close to the subject

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          Clear thinkers with a deep background in a controversial subject are bound to discover truths that were buried for political reasons and this is truly upsetting to anyone who needs those truths hidden to justify their position.

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            Analitik

            My issue with Jo is her continual insistence on quarantine as the only means of dealing with Covid. She uses WA as the example of a “proper” quarantine and never acknowledges that the eastern states act as WA’s extended quarantine zone so that WA can enjoy the goods and services obtained with international travelers in the eastern states.

            Plus she refuses to take a proper look at the UK data that shows that the Delta variant is significantly attenuated vs the earlier Alpha and original Wuhan variants so she keeps up the “abundance of caution” argument for dealing with the Delta outbreaks that have had Victoria and NSW locked down and isolated from other states.

            Even now with the Omicron variant, she continues to stress reports of recent increased hospitalisation in South Africa without investigating whether the increases have been due to seasonal variations of the Delta strain that is being displaced by Omicron but is still present in the South African population.

            This abject fear she displays for Covid is why I made the comment about her being possibly too close to the subject.

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              Wirebird

              Does Jo feels fear about a deadly pandemic that has already killed millions? I don’t know, although it would be justified if she did. But I do know she has used her knowledge of the subject by facing up to COVID, analysing and talking about it and the responses to it, and providing leadership with strategies out of it. Hardly ‘abject’. Highly courageous, I would say.

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                Analitik

                Again, she refuses to take a proper look at the UK data that shows that the Delta variant is significantly attenuated vs the earlier Alpha and original Wuhan variants so she keeps up the “abundance of caution” argument for dealing with the Delta outbreaks that have had Victoria and NSW locked down and isolated from other states.

                Even now with the Omicron variant, she continues to stress reports of recent increased hospitalisation in South Africa without investigating whether the increases have been due to seasonal variations of the Delta strain that is being displaced by Omicron but is still present in the South African population.

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                Analitik here is something i expect Jo could understand quickly but you would struggle with. Why i think the real pandemic does not start for a few months yet.
                ““Even if the probability is very low, 1 in 10,000 or 100,000, that this drug would induce an escape mutant from which the vaccines we have do not cover, that could be catastrophic for the whole world actually,” Dr. James Hildreth, CEO of Meharry Medical College in Nashville, Tenn., told the panel.”
                https://www.cnbc.com/2021/11/30/fda-advisory-panel-narrowly-endorses-mercks-oral-covid-treatment-pill-despite-reduced-efficacy.html
                Now with Australia ordering 300,000 doses is that 3 or 30 variants with the potential of omicron that we have ordered.
                The answer i expect you to struggle with is that further variants are not going to occur at covid zero. It requires community spread for Molnupiravir, the vaccines and dumb luck to create enough incubators. For endless unpredictable variants that may be worse or better at random. Now we wait to find out what omicron will do to the under five year olds who are the first of many victims of “learn to live with it”. No problem for the UK to provide enough incubators at 45,500 new cases per day.
                Also not a problem for Sweden to provide enough seeing that prior infection does not stop omicron. DR John C https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3ml9kYeOPeg
                No problem for Israel either seeing triple vaccination does not stop doctors giving it to each other and “learning to live with it” has closed their borders.
                https://www.reuters.com/business/healthcare-pharmaceuticals/two-israeli-doctors-infected-with-omicron-hospital-says-2021-11-30/
                Omicron itself is not the problem. The problem is how quickly it is creating incubators.

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                Analitik

                Incubators that do not provide unusual selection pressures will not produce dominant variants that are more harmful. If Omicron has a high level of immune escape from both vaccines and those recovered from other variants, then there are no such unusual selection pressures

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              Gnrnr

              Yeah there is a significant difference between the outcomes from Alpha and Delta. Alpha had a CFR pushing around 3%. Delta is around 0.1% Omicron will likely be lower again.

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          Kalm Keith

          Before the invention of the Guillotine, executions of political opponents or out of date wives were sent off while standing.

          The swordsman, standing out of sight of the victim waited for his assistant to distract the target before striking.

          The assistant would call out unexpectedly “to me”.

          The subject would look to this distraction and never look at anything again.

          Moral of this story is always keep your eye on the bigger picture, distraction by minor detail may be unproductive.

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            Graeme No.3

            Nonsense KK.

            In England they got to kneel face down with their head on the block. Like Mary Queen of Scots and Ann Boleyn.
            The more courageous men checked to see if the sword (or ax blade was sharp enough) before getting in position.

            And the Guillotine was named after the doctor (and member of the Constituent Assembly) who wanted to avoid the bungling when the headsman was drunk or incompetent and the suffering was prolonged. **
            A similar invention was in use in Scotland before that, called The Maiden.

            **And contrary to foklore he didn’t become a customer and survived the Terror, the Directory, the Consulship, the Empire, The return of the Boubons, the Return of Napoleon and the next return of the Bourbons. Who said politics were a mess here?

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          Kalm Keith

          Not sure why there are so many reds?
          Not seeing the bigger picture can be a big problem.

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          Hanrahan

          If anything, she is too close to the subject

          I think Analitik is right, but that doesn’t mean I love her less. Her assertion that everyone in a hospital setting wears masks, eg, is wrong. I can live with that.

          Let’s pretend we have enshrined freedom of speech and refrain from down-thumbing.

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      John+R+Smith

      This is the climate scam.
      The latest head of the multiheaded beast.
      If you have any interest in the rescue of science, the battle has shifted.
      What they did to Meteorology, they are now doing to Microbiology and Medicine.
      Science is close to being irreparably politicized.

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        Serp

        Time to break out the Science Justice placards and picket somebody.

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        Greg in NZ

        C’mon man – those Hydra/Octopus creature things are stuff of myth, legends from long ago, The Science says so, because.

        Methinks Medicine was the beast’s first trophy prize out of your three ‘M’s: would you like some drugs in your food? Some medicine in your drink? Take 12 times a day and watch TV/media 24/7/365.

        Once the audience was well & truly sick hooked, how about taxing the air they breathe: step right up Meteorology! Whaddaya mean, we’re killing the planet? It’s on fire? Guilty.

        Now down to the finer details, those little things we can’t see with our own eyes, better leave it to Beaver the ‘expert’; hello Microbiology!

        The multiheaded beast slithered into the room while the crowd was watching the performing elephants and clapping like barking seals. This ‘reset’ is not so ‘great’ methinks – no, I don’t like it at all.

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    Vicki

    A world now beyond my comprehension. In one country (Oz) hard to get admitted to ER because of so many cases. In US hard to get out!

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      Alan

      In one country (Oz) hard to get admitted to ER because of so many cases

      Cases of what? Here in WA we have no COVID but yes ER is stretched due to lack of medical resources and people who don’t take responsibility for there own health. If you are a genuine emergency you will be admitted, even if you are “ramped” first

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        Chris

        Alan, The entire second floor of the Midland Hospital ( St John of God) is now inhabited by stoke victims . Our friend and neighbour had a stoke at home after his second jab, the ambulance took him to Charlie Gardner and after 2 days he was transferred to Midland. He said he was surprised that most of the people, all stroke victims, were so young and all had been transferred there. Apparently Midland has the best stroke doctors.

        Previously, like March and April, the second floor were wards for elderly people and wards for children.
        Mark McGowan said about a month ago that the hospitals were full and “we don’t know what is going on”.

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          Alan

          Sorry but I call that crap

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            And the rest of us call it interesting but unverified. I’m glad Chris shared it. It gives me some questions to ask of local medics.

            Some of the most useful anecdotes start with “my friend and neighbour”, or equivalent first hand contact.

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            MP

            I saw the presser where McGowan said that. He has personal experience, first hand.

            Your crap is crap.

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              Alan

              Didn’t know McGowan had a medical qualification

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                Kalm Keith

                President McGowan is a great leader.

                Do you know where he’s going?

                Does he?

                Fame and drama, the ultimate political drawcards.

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                MP

                You did not state you had any qualification either.
                I guessing he (MM) in his position is far more knowledgeable of the situation in hospitals under his control, you on the other hand naaah.
                That is just a plain stupid statement.

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        Kalm Keith

        To W.A.

        COVID is coming, big pharma’s getting fat.
        Please put a penny in the old Fauci’s hat.
        If you haven’t got a penny, a ha’penny will do.
        If you haven’t got a ha’penny, then God bless you!

        When the rest of Australia opens?

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        Mantaray Yunupingu

        Alan. WA is about 80% “fully vaxed”. However such an ongoing process is determined (are those who’ve been second-jabbed 3-6 months ago still fully vaxed?) we can run with this…

        Now you know why with no “Covid” cases the WA hospitals are packed. Dramatically weakening a person’s immune system has the all-too-predictable consequence that they become increasingly susceptible to all-causes illness. Allcause deaths will not be far behind.

        This expectation is fulfilled by the ABS in Oz; “There were 98,913 deaths that occurred between 1 January and 31 August 2021 and were registered by 31 October. This is 4,791 deaths (5.1%) more than the 2015-19 average and 3,542 deaths (3.7%) more than in 2020

        In Britain by the ONS…..
        “In the week ending 5 November 2021 (Week 44), 11,550 deaths were registered in England and Wales; this was 563 more deaths than the previous week (Week 43) and 16.8% above the five-year average (1,659 more deaths).

        In Britain there are deaths written off as “Covid Deaths”: “Of the deaths registered in Week 44 in England and Wales, 995 mentioned “novel coronavirus (COVID-19)” which means about 660 extra deaths NOT Covid-“related”.

        Tells you all you really need to know!

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          Graeme No.3

          And in Scotland – still part of the UK I think though hard to find in the dark** – the statistics show that getting double jabbed reduces your chances of getting Covid by a third (and by 20% by one jab). Unfortunately the death rate for the singly jabbed is up 23% and for double (or more) jabs your chances of dying go up to 3.4 times that of the unvaccinated.
          A statistical anomoly probably in that the elderly and ill were more likely to get jabbed and the young and fit less so.

          **After the Storm. I’m sure everyone without electricity will be thrilled by Whitehall’s promise to have power restored by Christmas.

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        Kalm Keith

        I agree.
        If people took responsibility for their own health, we wouldn’t need hospitals.

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        A reason the WA are so isolationist re borders is that their health system is a basket case,similar in Queensland.If the virus gets a foothold in these states the health system underfunding will be exposed for all to see!

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      OldOzzie

      Vicki,

      Here in NSW Operations have been still happening over past 2 years, and I have only missed one 3 weekly Cancer Appointment in last 1 1/2 years

      Today I go for my first ever PCR test, feelinging fine but have to have for 1st time for Cancer Immunotherapy next Tuesday

      It just struck me, that you put yourself at risk having the PCR test as the PCR Tester is testing all day, and may have tested positive Covid Cases?

      Am I wrong?

      Further at Hospital for Bloods Friday no question re Vaccination as Patient, and at Hospital tomorrow morning for Pre Op Admissions (Major Op in New Year – deferred by my request to have Xmas with Family) – they sent message that as long as have not been in outbreak area, no need for test if Unvaccinated and feeling fine.

      All 3 appointments at same Hospital.

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        OldOzzie

        PS that was really easy – straight up the road – then turn right to Aquatic Centre Parking Area – fill out Details on Scan QR Code – then straight into Tent Area with multiple test parking bays – quick brush inside mouth, then gentle swab of nostrils.

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    Enthalpy

    Think Sustainability!! Climate Change meets Covid. Because windmills and solar panels cannot ever provide enough energy for all the people on the planet then mathematically speaking the number of people on the planet should equate to the amount of renewable energy able to be continually produced to sustain them in the manner in which they have become accustomed.

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      Ted1

      Just what is it that you are wanting to sustain?

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        Enthalpy

        Sustainability, the catch cry of the day, not my idea.

        I prefer a creative world where we use the resources available to us to make a better place for us all. Although I fear those who prefer to control populations by strict rules, moral posturing and regulations are winning the war, and the sustainable world they desire will be achieved. Some of the tools in play, not in any particular order, are Covid, Net Zero, gene therapy vaccines, vaccine passports, media control, selection not election of political leaders, the bureaucratic class no care and no responsibility, etc.,. Please feel free to add to the list

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          Greg in NZ

          Ooh-ooh, anagram fun time:

          “media control” = ‘delta omicron’

          “sustainable” is a tricky one, however just for the Greenies:

          sustainable = bust in a seal.

          Righto, must be on my way…

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      Leo G

      Has the US CARES Act led to ventilator death-camp units in hospitals with a bounty for every CoViD-related death?
      It really does read like a crime against humanity.

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        Kalm Keith

        I would not like to be put on a Ventilator.

        Invasion isn’t the right word; something more sinister.

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          John+R+Smith

          KK,
          as I’ve mentioned before, my fathers last words to me were, “I haven’t been right since that damn flu shot”.
          The last time I saw him he was conscious, but unable to speak due to the tube down his throat.
          They tie your hands to the bed to keep you from pulling it out from the gag reflex.
          Frigging torture.
          I have often felt guilty about not cutting him loose and taking him out to die in the parking lot like the man he was.
          In the prime of his magnificent youth, he was a 24 year old, hard as nails infantry platoon sergeant that once destroyed two Tiger tanks with Molotov cocktails. (His buddy AJ got the other three.)
          He had been signed to a professional Baseball contract at 17.
          In January 1945 he fought the field hospital doctors in surgery because he thought the were taking his leg.
          In the 1980s he nearly died in a veterans hospital because surgery to repair his 40 year old wounds resulted in a nosocomial infection and he refused to allow them to amputate.
          I’m worried about being allowed into Valhalla.
          At least to visit.

          I don’t have a good attitude about Ventilators.

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            Kalm Keith

            What can you say to that.

            The sense of perspective needed by medical staff just wasn’t there.

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            marksman

            thanks for sharing that john+R+Smith 😉
            it must have been torture for you being the spectator wanting the best for your Dad

            RIP to your father

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      David-of-Cooyal-in-Oz

      G’day Beth,
      Not sure we can count on Nuremberg:
      ” Ursula Van Der Leyen, the head of the EU commission, told the press on Wednesday that she is in favour of scrapping the long-standing Nuremburg Code and forcing people to get vaccinated against COVID. ” , dated Dec 3, 2021.

      https://thepostmillennial.com/eu-chief-nuremberg-code

      (Sorry person X, I can’t remember who posted this link. But thanks.
      Another Ian has a similar sounding comment below, but I’ve not accessed that link yet.)

      Cheers
      Dave B

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        John+R+Smith

        I have looked and have not seen where she says ‘Nuremburg code’ in her mandate statement.
        She certainly supports forced mandates, which I think would violate Nuremberg.
        But ‘scrapping Nuremberg code’ seems an implied extrapolation … like historical global temps.

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          David-of-Cooyal-in-Oz

          G’day J R S
          Try this:
          ” Ursula Van Der Leyen, the head of the EU commission, told the press on Wednesday that she is in favour of scrapping the long-standing Nuremburg Code and forcing people to get vaccinated against COVID. ”

          Cheers
          Dave B

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    Will

    In actual fact the above is just expected totalitarian policy “by other means”.
    This is far more dangerous to those incoming from the front line:
    https://freebeacon.com/campus/doctors-warn-new-medical-school-guidance-would-lead-to-unqualified-physicians-and-unscientific-medicine/

    How many of these incompetents will migrate upwards into the bureaucracy (where such incompetence is never noticed) or even into “pure” politics? we already have the “competence” backwash running our health departments. Tomorow the sun won’t even try to shine.

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    Kalm Keith

    Back on the earlier thread “Dad” put up a good outline of this financial intrusion into the treatment of CV19.

    https://joannenova.com.au/2021/12/weekend-unthreaded-390/#comment-2497101

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      David Maddison

      Remember how Leftist “fact checkers” downplayed orvdenied these payments for covid? And this was also first mentioned by President Trump. He was right yet again.

      E.g. https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2020/apr/21/facebook-posts/Fact-check-Hospitals-COVID-19-payments/

      TRUMP:
      https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2020/nov/01/donald-trump/donald-trumps-false-claim-doctors-inflate-covid-19/

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        Kalm Keith

        What a strange world we live in, where deceit is covered over and put out of sight by, of all things; Truthseekers.

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        Interested

        Yes David, you’re absolutely right. I remember all the claims about financial inducements to:-
        1.) Find COVID-19 victims under every rock
        2.) Admit them to hospital
        3.) Put them on Remdesivir and a ventilator (which even Fauci’s papers at that time admitted, in links, is a life-threatening combination)
        4.) And put COVID-19 as the cause-of-death in as many cases as possible … and then some!

        This latest revelation from the AAPS comes as no surprise at all to me, and so many others like me I’m sure. It comes only as a relief that what was so obvious for so long is finally being brought out into the open.

        Since 2009, I’ve been investigating the climate deception – in common with probably everyone else at this site – and the extent and depth of that deception has been painfully clear during all of those years. The lies have been piled one on top of the other relentlessly, and by “scientists”, politicians, and media outlets across the whole world.
        And every part of the deception has been to the detriment of humanity everywhere.
        Hundreds of thousands of people, especially in places like Africa, have suffered and died from the lack of cheap reliable fossil-fuel energy, denied them by the UN and their subsidiary, the EU. The diversion of 40% of America’s corn crop to the production of fuel for cars has, alone, caused countless deaths as the price of corn as food on the international market pushed the price beyond the capacity of the poorest people to pay for it.
        The appalling consequences of the climate scam go on and on. Books have been written about it.

        Now we have the COVID deception. And this one is a real beauty! The gift that keeps on giving.
        It’s patently clear, to me at least, that this latest scheme by ‘the powers that be’ is also purposely designed to be detrimental to humanity … and how!!
        This is anti-humanism on steroids.
        The whole thing is rotten to the core and so plainly deliberate even blind Freddy can’t help but see it.

        Either that or I’m completely delusional and should be on medication and strapped down in a secure psychiatric facility.

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          KP

          “Either that or I’m completely delusional and should be on medication and strapped down in a secure psychiatric facility.”

          You’re not, and that’s why you will be!

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            Interested

            Thanks for the welcome vote of confidence in my sanity, ‘KP’.
            And I have to say I do admire your witty way with words!

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    Analitik

    Just like here, it’s better to stay out of the hospitals and organise the treatment you need yourself to administer at home.

    The hospitals only provide oxygen, steroids and then intubation as you progressively decline under their “care”.

    Get yourself diagnosed as depressed (Prozac/fluvoxamine), with lupus (hydroxychloriquine) or scabies (ivermectin) plus get some aspirin. And take quercetin, zinc and vitamin D and C to fortify your system so any infection is likely to be mild (or unnoticeable if omicron really gets going here)

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      Analitik

      And further to Omicron, here is an interview with Dr Angelique Coetzee wondering what all the worldwide fuss is about given all the experiences she has had treating Omicron cases. She tells how mild the cases have been with no one requiring oxygen nor hospitalisation which is in stark contrast to her experiences treating Delta cases.

      She didn’t even diagnose her initial cases of Omicron as CoViD because the symptoms were so mild for the whole family that was infected and only the Covid test that indicated what the infection was (she didn’t say if it was PCR or sero)

      https://twitter.com/talkRADIO/status/1465235992722423808

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      Klem

      Administering your own treatment at home does not reward you with a vaccine passport. You’ll never be part of the social credit herd that way.

      The vaccine passport: freedom through government control.

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    John+R+Smith

    “A 20 percent “boost” bonus payment from Medicare on the entire hospital bill for use of remdesivir instead of medicines such as Ivermectin.”

    Again, hard to believe.
    What could the possible justification for this be … except corruption?
    Will we see a bonus for organ removal?

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    Jo
    Keep on exposing the lies and corruption. But here in Australia add the corruption and hiding of the true impact of the treatments masquerading as vaccines.

    Here the TGA statistics are completely bogus and underestimate the problems . Huge nos of adverse reactions – everybody I know knows people directly who have been in bed over a week trying to recover or hospitalised . Other friends know directly people who have died of the vaxx. But apart from Gerard Rennicks tireless advocacy on this, little from very few others.

    Did you hear that those who have had a severe adverse reaction can finally get an exemption from the second jab? This quite logical measure was denied in a completely wrong policy from all our Govts.

    One down…

    Now just act on the others;

    Pregnant women should be automatically banned and only able to get a vaxx with a doctors recommendation
    An immediate end to all vaccine mandates (illogical and with transmission no different to unvaxxed completely wrong)
    Stop the ban on being able to check if you have had covid or are naturally immune (this is soley to boost Pharma profits – nothing else)
    Stop the ban on HCQ and Ivermectin. (as you Jo have tirelessly pushed)

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      Scissor

      Pfizer is being legally forced to release data on safety and efficacy. It never was safe.

      https://phmpt.org/wp-content/uploads/2021/11/5.3.6-postmarketing-experience.pdf

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      Mantaray Yunupingu

      Prophet. The TGA’s DAEN register had about 700 reported vax-related deaths last time I looked: nearly all of which were written-up by doctors, who should know an “unexpected reaction leading to death” when they see it.

      At that time the TGA was claiming they’d investigated them all and had found only seven were vax-induced….which indicates either the TGA are liars, or else that 99% of doctors in Oz do not have a clue: are reporting nonsense events as adverse event deaths.

      I do not like either of these possibilities!

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        Mantaray
        My mother in law was hospitalised in hours after her jab, and her doctor classed it as vaxx related. But she is not in the TGA database as neither the hospital or doctor reported it. I can’t report it as I am not a doctor…

        My uncle complained almost immediately after his vaxx of balance issues and disorientation. This worsened and he had a bad fall 3 weeks later and ended up in hospital with extensive rehab (over 6 weeks worth). I spoke at length to his doctor and he had not reported it, but agreed with me that the vaxx appeared to be a clear factor. Again though he has done nothing and neither has the hospital. He has a whole day a week where he churns through 6 vaxxes per hour from 8 to 6pm. A “nice earner” and probably he is not wanting to upset that river of gold.

        its clear to me that there is huge underreporting of issues as many are afraid as AHPRA wants all to sing the praises of the vaxx, and any who question may lose registration. It appears reporting a severe adverse reaction is seen as questioning the almighty vaxx, which cannot be questioned.

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    Selwyn+H

    Unbelievable the lengths that Big Pharma will devise to stop Ivermectin being used to treat Covid-19. I have been following the countries which are successfully controlling the virus and invariably they are using Ivermectin in various degrees. India is particularly interesting as it is difficult to find which States have adopted it fully.

    The “Indian Council of Medical Research” removed Ivermectin and Hydroxychloroquine from Covid-19 treatment guidelines on 23 September 2021 saying it doesn’t work. Big Pharma influence again. Looking at Covid Tracker India it becomes obvious that most states disagree with them.

    https://www.ndtv.com/coronavirus/india-covid-19-tracker“>

    Unfortunately it doesn’t show the population of each state but look at the two states with the largest populations. Uttar Pradesh with 241 million people and Bihar with 129 million. Uttar Pradesh has 8 new cases and 93 active while Bihar has no new cases and 32 active. Both states have extremely active Ivermectin treatment programs and the results speak for themselves.

    And to think that Professor Thomas Borody devised this treatment for Australia back in August 2020 and then proved that it worked with Dr Robert Clancy on a total of 600 patients before our TGA banned its use. Big Pharma again?

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    John Hultquist

    I am increasingly of the opinion that almost all the covid reporting, cases, deaths, money and so on, is flaky.
    How can anyone pick the truth from such a morass?

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      John+R+Smith

      Well, the US Gov was/is paying extra $ for ‘positive’ covid diagnoses, so …
      I would consider monetary encouragement for the production of desired result ‘flaky’.
      Fauci calls it Science.

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      Indeed it is fog-soup. But there are a lot of doctors working with patients. Not the desktop ones, the committees, the academics.
      Seek out those doctors. There are patterns and similar reports from every continent.

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        Mantaray Yunupingu

        Just commented above on this aspect.

        The deaths being reported on the DAEN site (TGA-run) are almost all from doctors who believe their patients have ben killed by the vax. Hardly anyone else knows about the site, nor how to do an actual report….other than medical types.

        Then the TGA says only about 1% ARE adverse vax effects.

        Where I live, ALL the doctors (I visit a couple, and my associates visit the rest)caution against vaccination unless you are in a VERY vulnerable situation.

        I’m guessing this is because they know their patients pretty well, and because there are so few extra people to cover for the ones they inject. A rural doctor does not so easily find new customers if he / she injects the regulars already supporting their practices. Kinda like killing golden gooses for them!

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      FarmerDoug2

      With ivermectin, in all its forms, so widely available a black market will be there distorting the reporting. Even the honest bits.

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    Kalm Keith

    TWC comments above and points out what a great blog this is; thanks Jo.

    Then some comments that illustrate why the blog is so much on target; basically, it’s because we can reinforce and support each other when needed.

    I have suffered from Stockholm Syndrome in some parts of my life and it’s a perfectly normal thing.

    In the case of Global Warming the deceivers used the trick of getting all sciency with the revelation that CO2, but only human origin CO2, could somehow store heat and boil the atmosphere.

    The proper approach, as the geologists eventually showed us, is to pull back and inspect the big picture.

    In this particular thread we are shown the financial incentives that were put in place, and let’s be honest, they are extraordinary.

    Getting inside the micro detail of the structure of CV19 has a place but the macro view of any problem is where we should start.

    The lady in South Africa has led the way with her comments on the danger of this New Variant. She observed that it was mild.

    Process analysis from the Macro to the Micro.

    https://joannenova.com.au/2021/12/totalitarian-medicine-the-us-government-is-effectively-fining-hospitals-if-they-use-ivermectin-or-anything-not-approved/#comment-2497420

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    another ian

    And then

    “European Union Debates Reconstituting Nazi Medical Policy With Mandatory Medical Procedures and Abolishing Nuremberg Code
    December 4, 2021 | Sundance | 26 Comments”

    https://theconservativetreehouse.com/blog/2021/12/04/european-union-debates-reconstituting-nazi-medical-policy-with-mandatory-medical-procedures-and-abolishing-nuremberg-code/

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    PeterS

    It’s good to see that we’ve finally recognised the covid-19 scam is at least as significant as the climate change scam.

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    Ronin

    Putin must be going to meet Biden to ask for some tips on how to run totalitarian medicine.

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    gowest

    Partner noted the increase in SHINGLES adverts on TV. According to google Shingles is triggered by a weakened or compromised immune system.

    First of many adverts to make money off Vax complications?

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      Analitik

      Yes, I noticed and mentioned this a couple of months ago and then the ads disappeared. I also believe they are looking to frontrun adverse effects by “normalizing” them in the minds of people before the boosters really get momentum.

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    gowest

    Seems the TGA is allowing all the vax junkies to jab their kids… Its got to be the end of this political pandemic one way or the other!

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    Tony Dick

    How are variants discovered? Is there a special test to determine variants because my understanding was that the regular RT-PCR test cannot tell variants apart.

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    Philip

    I was just told 5 – 11 year olds approved for vaccine use in Aus. True ? In Canada I know they want to go even younger.

    Extraordinary that the narrative 2 years ago was all about how CV mainly effects older people. That seems to have been completely forgotten about. Parents are lining up around my way to get their kids vaccinated.

    People’s propensity to take a pill to fix everything is an extraordinary pothole of the mind that never ceases to amaze me.

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      KP

      I think I read the USA has a vaccine program for every child born that includes 34 jabs before they’re 5yrs old.

      Maybe it was more, I figured it was a lot at the time & certainly explained how easily they die with Covid.

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      Analitik

      The doc is certain that his vaccination and booster prevented him from ending up in hospital.
      But the severity of his symptoms vs those generally experienced in South Africa suggests ADE making Omicron worse for those with the vaccine anti-bodies.

      Meanwhile, Maor, who remains in isolation at home, did express concern that despite having no underlying medical issues and being triple-vaccinated, he has been hit hard by the bug with fever, a sore throat and muscle aches.

      “Despite everything, despite the vaccines and the booster, I was in bed for 48 hours,” he told the Times. “If I didn’t have the vaccine, I probably would have ended up in the hospital.”

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    Rod

    You have to learn to trust the science Jo.

    Here’s proof the science works and the experts are trustworthy:

    Fully Vaccinated accounted for 4 in every 5 Covid-19 Deaths in England during November despite Booster Jab Campaign

    https://dailyexpose.uk/2021/12/04/4-in-5-covid-deaths-fully-vaccinated-november/

    MONSTER: Fauci runs “secret island of monkeys” to conduct cruel animal experiments to enrich Big Pharma

    https://www.newstarget.com/2021-12-03-fauci-secret-island-monkeys-cruel-animal-experiments.html

    Now for an idea: let anyone who wants to take Ivermectin for Covid have it but on the condition they can’t access medical treatment for Ivermectin related injuries.
    Who’d sign up I wonder? I would!

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    Ivor

    Banning the use of ivermectin or hydroxychloroquine makes perfect sense; if the Government has made a secret deal with the vaccine companies. OF course I have no evidence of such a deal.

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      another ian

      “If you don’t trust the government you are no longer a conspiricy theorist.

      You are a history buff”

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      ozfred

      The (Australian Competition and Consumer Commission) ACCC should be able to get access to the Pfizer/Australia Government agreement without jeopardizing the commercial in confidence aspects.

      There is one question I would ask the ACCC to simply answer yes or no.
      Does any part of the agreement, if the it were created between two corporate parties, violate Australian antitrust regulations? Particular evidence of illegal restriction of entering into alternative agreements or sources.

      If yes, how does the ACCC suggest that Australian citizens pursue “redress”. If no, many conspiracy theories would no longer be valid.

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    Truthseeker

    Jo, actually it is Rumble because YouTube would not allow you talk about Ivermectin or about medical corruption. He is also referring to information he got from a “very, very reliable source” which is not an “anonymous tweet”. It sounds like direct whistleblower information and definitely fits in with the “vaccine at all costs” narrative that has been pushed.

    BTW, most of the comments on this blog are by anonymous guys on the internet …

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    Truthseeker

    Jo,

    It is medical quarantine when you isolate the sick. It is tyranny when you isolate the healthy. How about getting a positive test before enforcing the quarantine? How about not coercing medical treatment with $5,000 dollar fines? How long is NT going to isolate itself from the world? It has been proven in the USA, India, South America, SE Asia and Europe that lockdowns and masks do not work. It has been shown that treating the disease is the correct response to it. Using military personnel to enforce internment is tyranny regardless of the the excuse used to justify it. Regardless of that, Claire knowingly and deliberately lied and then tried to smear Tim Pool who exposed her. The worst way to stop COVID is to keep people indoors. The best way to stop COVID is to get people exercising outside, getting Vitamin D and if they are symptomatic, treating them with an array of available medicines that actually work.

    Move this post to “Unthreaded” if you feel it is “off topic”.

    -TS

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    max

    The premier of Western Australia has suggested US-based “white supremacist groups” may be to blame for low Covid vaccination rates among Aboriginals, claiming the Indigenous community has been targeted with anti-vaxx propaganda.

    https://www.rt.com/news/542172-australia-white-supremacists-indigenous/

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      justjoshin

      McGowan was never burdened with an abundance of grey matter. The vast majority of people don’t want it are are only getting it because they were promised normality. He could never do anything for them anyway, so he has no leverage on them.

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    another ian

    “Neil Oliver: Pandora’s Box – Brute Force is Ultimately at the End of Government Compulsory Vaccinations
    December 4, 2021 | Sundance | 343 Comments”

    https://theconservativetreehouse.com/blog/2021/12/04/neil-oliver-pandoras-box-brute-force-is-ultimately-at-the-end-of-government-compulsory-vaccinations/

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    “… it takes eight days for people to need hospital…” There is the money shot in the above post, and predictively only at the end, just barely edged in before the close.

    The only power covid19 and its supposed offspring have is quickness of internal infection, getting past the outer defenses of nose and mouth. I got it twice, in January and March 2020 — before all the blatant political tyranny from May 2020 on — and kept it from making me actually sick, by ocnfronting it instantly, within hours of catching it. So I am informing you all, not unknowing personal prejudice.

    And you don’t need ivermectin, hydroxychloroquine, vitamins, zinc, etc. ad infinitum. Just have two or three bottles of echinacea with goldenseal on hand, to use as CURATIVE MEDICINE, NOT “SUPPLEMENT” (at supplement dosages); that’s why I recommend having two (or more) bottles on hand, because I followed the herbal company’s (Oriental Herb Company) guidelines, about not being at all limited by “recommended dosage”, of an absolutely harmless herb, of three times a day (the “supplemental” dosage, which is a worthless, “one size fits all” prescription), and easily beat the virus by dosing every 20 MINUTES, the first time for a full week, and second (two months later) for just 2 days. Bottom line, take echinacea with goldenseal as your body needs it, and you will never get sick enough to even stay at home, much less flat on your back (and keeping your hands sanitized, and not actually getting in other peoples’ faces (not yelling and spitting at them) while out and about, absolutely negates any need for masks in public (or at home with the family).

    Hit it quick — none of that waiting for 8 days, before going to the hospital for rigorous, ignorant abuse of your body and health — and hit it right. And DON’T obey “lockdowns”, of any sort; your mind and body will thank you for your cooperation.

    [Best add disclaimers: “Do you own research” etc. Get medical advice. ;- ) — Jo ]

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      Hitting it quickly is important but if symptoms don’t start for 2-14 days how do you know which day you are infected?

      Bear in mind that viral load curves often peak before symptoms begin, so without doing prophylactic measures, most people will miss the most important few days when exponential growth is occurring. It’s good if you know you might have been exposed, but I assume a lot of infections run ahead of the knowledge?

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      Annie

      Jo is correct. You should check before taking echinacea if you are on certain other medications.

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    Analitik

    Another effective early treatment drug for Covid that has passed the RCTI “Gold Standard” .
    (which is an invention of big pharma), fluvoxamine gets totally ignored by the CDC, FDA, NIH etc. since they can’t tar and feather it like they did with the designed to fail trials that were set up for hydroxychloroquine and ivermectin.

    When the fluvoxamine Phase 3 study published in Lancet showed the drug worked better than any other drug (including the new antiviral pills from Merck and Pfizer), the NIH simply ignored the study. They didn’t even mention it.

    https://stevekirsch.substack.com/p/do-you-know-why-there-isnt-an-eua

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    […] Totalitarian Medicine: The US government is effectively “fining” hospitals if they use Ivermecti…–  joannenova.com.au […]

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    another ian

    “Does the Data Really Matter to the Usual Suspects?”

    “Leftists and their allies in the media, academia, and politics constantly espouse that they “follow the data & science” and thus, anyone who disagrees with them does not. We’ll soon see if they walk their talk:

    The question is this: If the vaccines work, what’s going on?”

    More at

    http://www.smalldeadanimals.com/2021/12/05/does-the-data-really-matter-to-the-usual-suspects/#comments

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    Yonason

    Hospital tries, and fails, to run out the clock. Stubborn patient holds on long enough for judge to require hospital to allow his personal physician to administrator Ivermectin, thereby saving his life.
    https://www.israpundit.org/court-orders-hospital-to-administer-ivermectin-dying-covid-19-patient-recovers/

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    Analitik

    More evidence that Omicron is the variant we want – a detailed report of current cases from South Africa

    Tshwane has been the global epicentre of the Omicron Outbreak

    A key question regarding the new Omicron outbreak is whether disease severity is similar, milder or more severe than with the other variants, given the large number of Omicron mutations.

    The best indicator of disease severity is measured by the in-hospital death rate. There were 10 deaths in the SBAH/TDH cohort in the past two weeks, making up 6.6% of the 166 admissions. Four deaths were in adults aged 26 – 36 and five (5) deaths were in adults over 60. One death was in a child in whom the cause of deaths was unrelated to COVID. There were no COVID related deaths among 34 admissions in the paediatric COVID wards over the last two weeks. This compares favorably to the proportion of deaths at the complex over the past 18 months which was 17%. The trend over the next two weeks will be clarified as the number of deaths is currently low, and sufficient time will have elapsed for the development of greater severity of disease and the number of deaths might be expected to increase. For now, the death rates over the last two weeks.as well as over the past 18 months at the SBAH/TDH complex are lower than the overall in-hospital death rate of 23% for the country over all previous waves, as reported by the NICD.

    Figure 2 below shows the absence of any significant increase in in-hospitals deaths in relation to the dramatic rise in the case rate for the Gauteng Province as a whole.
    ..
    There were only 2 patients in the COVID ICU in the last 14 days, neither of whom had a primary diagnosis of COVID pneumonia. Sixty-three patients were admitted to high care, but our anecdotal information is that the majority of high care admissions were for a diagnosis other than COVID.
    ..
    A significant early finding in this analysis is the much shorter average length of stay of 2.8 days for SARS-CoV-2 positive patients admitted to the COVID wards over the last two weeks compared to an average length of stay of 8.5 days for the past 18 months. The NICD reports a similar shorter length of stay for all hospitals in Tshwane in its weekly report. It is also less than the Gauteng or National average length of stay reported by the NICD in previous waves.

    In summary, the first impression on examination of the 166 patients admitted since the Omicron variant made an appearance, together with the snapshot of the clinical profile of 42 patients currently in the COVID wards at the SBAH/TDH complex, is that the majority of hospital admissions are for diagnoses unrelated to COVID-19. The SARS-CoV-2 positivity is an incidental finding in these patients and is largely driven by hospital policy requiring testing of all patients requiring admission to the hospital.

    https://www.samrc.ac.za/news/tshwane-district-omicron-variant-patient-profile-early-features

    Omicron? Bring it on!

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    Interested

    The latest figures from the U.S. based Vaccine Adverse Event Reporting System (VAERS) are now available.
    Since Dec. 2020, the COVID ‘vaccines’ have caused:
    19,532 deaths
    927,740 injuries

    And we must remember that the ‘powers-that-be’ are strongly against the reporting by medical staff of anything which portrays the ‘vaccines’ as dangerous – to the point of loss of employment and/or de-registration.
    This explains the probable under-reporting factor of up to 100x
    This in turn indicates that the real VAERS figures for deaths and injuries are very possibly 1.95 million deaths and 92.7 million injuries.

    How many deaths and injuries have been reported this year – or any year! – in association with the use of Ivermectin?

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      Leo G

      How many deaths and injuries have been reported this year – or any year! – in association with the use of Ivermectin?

      What proportion of deaths and injuries associated with the use of any drug is reported?
      A close relative died earlier this year after an adverse reaction to low-dose Olanzapine treatment. His death certificate did not mention the drug reaction despite its unequivocal role.
      Nor did the prescribing doctor or the hospital report the adverse drug reaction to Australia’s Therapeutic Drugs Administration (TGA).
      Both groups claimed it was a strict policy not to report such events on legal advice.
      It is mostly left to the victim to report the reaction to the TGA (or their next-of-kin). Death certificates are consequently very poor sources of cause of death data where any therapies are involved.

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        Interested

        ‘Leo G’: “Both groups claimed it was a strict policy not to report such events on legal advice.”

        Lawyers, lawsuits, and money!
        Pharmaceutical companies can earmark tens of millions of dollars for court cases. Individual doctors, nurses, and even large hospitals, would invariably run out of cash long before someone like Pfizer.
        Drawing attention to shortcomings in the safety of a lucrative pharmaceutical product could result in a very expensive court case lasting years.
        So unfortunately, it seems your chances of winning such a legal battle are directly proportional to the size of your bank account.

        As far as Ivermectin is concerned, I’d hazard the opinion that it hasn’t killed or injured nearly as many people during 2021 as the four main COVID ‘vaccines’, and it’s actually effective against COVID while the ‘vaccines’ aren’t.
        Nevertheless, Ivermectin’s been banned while the ‘vaccines’ are being forced into us.
        How long before everyone wakes up?

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    NZer

    Shocking corruption and control of hospitals, doctors, and denial of patient rights… but why are the same wrongful restrictions and controls and abuse being imposed in Australia and New Zealand ?

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    Analitik

    Interesting admissions in this Feb 2021 Pfizer report on adverse events

    They had to upgrade their systems, processes and staffing to deal with the large increase in adverse event reports after their vaccine was unleashed. Obviously the trials were too short and were not representative of the general population. They would have been aware of their own fudging of the data to minimise the events in their trial studies so this increase was a surprise else they would have been prepared for the number of events.

    Pfizer has also taken a multiple actions to help alleviate the large increase of adverse event reports. This includes significant technology enhancements, and process and workflow solutions, as well as increasing the number of data entry and case processing colleagues. To date, Pfizer has onboarded approximately [redacted] additional fulltime employees (FTEs). More are joining each month with an expected total of more than [redacted]additional resources by the end of June 2021.

    https://phmpt.org/wp-content/uploads/2021/11/5.3.6-postmarketing-experience.pdf

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      They had to upgrade their systems, processes and staffing to deal with the large increase in adverse event reports after their vaccine was unleashed. Obviously the trials were too short and were not representative of the general population.

      And how many of our general population, let alone the media, are aware of this happening? But if you mention it – you are a conspiracy theorist.

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    SimonB

    Control the language and the narrative, control the population right under their noses!
    Claims of the January 6 ‘insurrection’ has given Ole Dementia Joe and his Marxists the carte blanche to march thru society with impunity.
    ANYONE who speaks or acts against the current administration and gleefully useful idiots in the bureaucracy, regulatory bodies and woke corporations is an ‘anarchist intent on destroying the fabric of the US’.
    It’s insidious and it’s coming to a Western country near you at light speed.

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    Furiously+Curious

    Dr Jackie Stone in a treatment video (You tube “Sharing health empowerment presentation by Dr Jackie Stone.” I cant link as my net connection is cr.p since a storm.) says an oximeter ($50) will give a warning before symptoms appear. And even if you have symptoms, don’t wait for a covid test. Hit it.

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      Pulsemeters are cheaper on Ebay. Look for ones that do PI (Pulse Index) as well. ~ $30AU. Some of the $20 ones appear to work as well, but some dont (We have 5 and I cross check, and one $20 is unreliable, but 2 others aren’t). PI gives you a % between 0 and 14 or so, and it’s a measure of good blood flow, warm fingers, and an accurate reading. So if the PI is low, the reading might not be accurate. (But I’m no expert in this, so someone may want to add more.) I highly recommend getting one or two of these and using them for a while to get a baseline. Handy for exercise. Really useful for asthma.

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        Scottish doctor Malcolm Kendrick, who has treated many many COVID patients was unsettled by the cases who seemed fine one minute, and were dead the next, due to the rapid loss of oxygen following the sudden cytokine storms.He took to personally wearing an oxygen detector (I assume a Pulsemeter, or some such) on his finger, as I recall.

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    Yonason

    S. African Dr Chetty has successfully treated over 7,000 COVID patients.
    https://breakingviewsnz.blogspot.com/2021/12/dr-shankara-chetty-outpatient-therapy.html?m=1

    He opposes the shot, for many of the same reasons Dr Zelenko does.
    https://jeffreydachmd.com/2021/11/inventing-the-c0-ld-lrus-and-a/

    Very informative videos.

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    AZ1971

    Beyond all that, the shocking corruption has to exposed. Spread the word.

    Jo, this is old news. We in the States have known for a long time that the actual data is being hopelessly corrupted by pencil-pushing bureaucrats who go back into death records to amend the medical examiner’s cause of death. And the incentives — sorry, “reimbursements” — to hospitals and doctors, while disgusting and morally bastardized, provide a cautionary tale on the corruptive influence of the federalization of medicine and science. “Follow the science” is a siren call to shut down dissent or debate, whether in medicine or climate science.

    “Spread the word” will get you nowhere. The corruption has gone too deep and across too many sectors for little people to effect change. Only through the outright rebellion against the corruption will we be able to take our overlords to task.

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    https://t.co/ChxIVzVs7h pic.twitter.com/PIkA4fVxBH

    Sorry – re deaths related to vaccines.

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    another ian

    Clot Shot for What?

    “COVID-19 Outbreak Reported on US Cruise Ship Despite Fully Vaccinated Passengers

    A Norwegian Cruise Line ship with over 3,000 passengers bound for New Orleans has reported a COVID-19 outbreak on board.

    Despite the requirement that all ship’s passengers and crew had to be vaccinated prior to boarding, 10 people have tested positive for COVID-19 on board the Norwegian Breakaway cruise liner.

    https://eturbonews.com/3010799/major-covid-19-outbreak-on-fully-vaccinated-norwegian-cruise-line-ship/

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    dp

    We are a nation of laws and law makers. And, of course, law breakers. Recently we’ve moved toward avoiding enforcing those laws and defunding law enforcement. See the spiral yet?

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      Yonason

      They don’t want to get rid of police. They want to get rid of local police and replace them with federally controlled police, accountable only to them. You know, like the CIA and FBI are now. Having all “law enforcement “ under their control removes the last obstacle to total control, and thightens the final screw of their control over us.

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    another ian

    More noticed from overseas

    “Adam Carolla on Australia’s (And America’s) Crazy COVID Crackdown | The Megyn Kelly Show – YouTube”

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RolkHNFBesA

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    Yonason

    Good source of information on the molecular biology of the virus and the shot.
    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=CAhgsnu7geM

    Also, he presents a paper showing that antibodies drive selection of new variants.
    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Chlp99IXUp0
    So, it’s not the unvaccinated who are the problem. It’s the vaccinated. That’s exactly what Geert Vanden Bossche and others said would happen, based on what has happened before with non-sterilizing immunity.

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