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    OldOzzie

    From Ivermectin thread but relevant to all Jo’s Bloggers

    Ross/RickWill,

    Re It is not amazing, it is how big brother works. I imagine you were doing searches on medications and Covid. You only need to know one thing “get vaccinated”. No one is going to advertise Ivermectin unless you do a search for animal drench and parasites. Every time you press the enter key or click on your web browser, it is being monitored by big brother and they are just helping you to find what you really need.

    if using Chrome, click on 3 dots on right of web address,

    In drop down, select more tools

    From that Drop Down select extensions

    In the Search Extensions at the top Type Cookie Remover

    Add as Extension

    While you are there In the Search Extensions at the top Type “Bypass Paywalls” and also “Adblock Plus” and Add

    and why not search IBA Opt-out (by Google)Opt out of Google’s interest-based ads as you browse the web with Chrome.

    and Unpaywall Legally get full text of scholarly articles as you browse.

    Note with AdBlock Plus blocks eg DailyMail. so I use Safari Browser (which I leave without AdBlock Plus) to view sites that object to AdBlock and I see then why I use AdBlock – Ads on Daily Mail site are ridiculous – basically unreadable

    Also have AdBlockPlus on Firefox

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      Forrest Gardener

      Interesting stuff. Big Brother is indeed watching you.

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      OldOzzie

      DST Root CA X3 Expiration (September 2021)

      On September 30 2021, there will be a small change in how older browsers and devices trust Let’s Encrypt certificates. If you run a typical website, you won’t notice a difference – the vast majority of your visitors will still accept your Let’s Encrypt certificate. If you provide an API or have to support IoT devices, you might have to pay a little more attention to the change.

      Let’s Encrypt has a “root certificate” called ISRG Root X1. Modern browsers and devices trust the Let’s Encrypt certificate installed on your website because they include ISRG Root X1 in their list of root certificates. To make sure the certificates we issue are trusted on older devices, we also have a “cross-signature” from an older root certificate: DST Root CA X3.

      When we got started, that older root certificate (DST Root CA X3) helped us get off the ground and be trusted by almost every device immediately. The newer root certificate (ISRG Root X1) is now widely trusted too – but some older devices won’t ever trust it because they don’t get software updates (for example, an iPhone 4 or an HTC Dream). Click here for a list of which platforms trust ISRG Root X1.

      DST Root CA X3 will expire on September 30, 2021. That means those older devices that don’t trust ISRG Root X1 will start getting certificate warnings when visiting sites that use Let’s Encrypt certificates. There’s one important exception: older Android devices that don’t trust ISRG Root X1 will continue to work with Let’s Encrypt, thanks to a special cross-sign from DST Root CA X3 that extends past that root’s expiration. This exception only works for Android.

      What should you do? For most people, nothing at all! We’ve set up our certificate issuance so your web site will do the right thing in most cases, favoring broad compatibility. If you provide an API or have to support IoT devices, you’ll need to make sure of two things: (1) all clients of your API must trust ISRG Root X1 (not just DST Root CA X3), and (2) if clients of your API are using OpenSSL, they must use version 1.1.0 or later. In OpenSSL 1.0.x, a quirk in certificate verification means that even clients that trust ISRG Root X1 will fail when presented with the Android-compatible certificate chain we are recommending by default.

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      Bozotheclown

      Old Ozzie, if you think you are being stealthy by following the steps you list above you are but a babe in the woods.
      If you are worried about anyone tracking your paths on the internet you must be much much more diligent. I suggest that you watch about 15 of Rob Braxman https://www.youtube.com/c/BraxMe videos as a start, then stop using Chrome at all, load Firefox (free) and go look for Tor browser (also free). Beyond that subscribe to a VPN service and use it.

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        OldOzzie

        Bozotheclown

        I use Chrome with DuckDuckgo, Firefox with DuckDuckGo, Safari without AdBlock and have Opera – I have been using AVG since 1998 – Originally in Business with Microsoft, now with Apple Products and Android Samsung Note(only member in family who does not have an iphone)

        I have AVG multiple Device Subscriptions for AVG AntiTrack, Antivirus, SecureVPN & TuneUp

        I always have VPN on.

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      Ross

      Wasn’t amazed about the ads – I was amazed about the waste of money by the Vic govt in promoting vaccines. Its part of their Voices for Vaccines push – makes them look all concerned etc. Basically window dressing to show up their terrible lockdown stuff ups!! I quite like the pop ads actually – very often they highlight a product that I need. So, even though I have considered getting rid of them, no thanks. Like your work OldOzzie.

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    OldOzzie

    ‘Police like storm troopers’: Abbott defends Vic protesters

    Former Prime Minister Tony Abbott has defended the actions of protesters who stormed Melbourne’s Shrine of Remembrance last week, as violent rallies engulfed the city over the course of three days.

    Mr Abbott, speaking on the Institute of Public Affairs Australia’s Heartland podcast, said that although “obviously people shouldn’t break the law”, he believed the protesters were within their rights to express their opposition to “unreasonable” health restrictions.

    “You’ve got people there at the Shrine of Remembrance, with flags, with placards, with the best of my observation they were simply there to make a point,” he said.

    “They weren’t being violent, they weren’t being vandalistic, they weren’t being destructive.

    “Then you had the Victorian police being lined up like storm troopers, eventually charging them with rubber bullets and teargas.

    “Now I don’t think you can say all the right was on one side there.”

    Mr Abbott said he believed the group – which Labor and CFMEU boss John Setka branded as neo-Nazis and not genuine construction workers – were people who were “sick and tired” of arduous health orders.

    “I saw a lot of people who were maybe a little misguided, maybe a little over the top, but I saw a lot of people who are sick and tired of restrictions, which frankly are now becoming absolutely unreasonable,” he said.

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      David Maddison

      Abbott believed in individual rights (to an extent) and was opposed to the Anthropogenic Global Warming fraud and look what the Left did to him.

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        Dennis

        To begin with the left misquoted PM Abbott when he actually commented that UN IPCC climate modelling was “cr*p”, his political opponents including left leaning media claimed that he was in denial about climate change.

        PM Abbott made it quite clear that he understands that climate changing is natural, he rightly criticised the creatively accounted figures that were contained in the modelling, exposed as such from various sources including hacked emails released around the time of the IPCC Copenhagen Conference revealing the discussions between the people who produced the modelling. Another was mathematician Christopher Monckton who audited those figures and produced the result showing that they were deceptive.

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          Ian

          PM Abbott was the PM who initiated the 26-28% emissions targe.

          Abbott said the new target – to reduce emissions by 26% to 28% of 2005 levels by 2030 – was “foursquare in the middle” of the pledges comparable economies will take to the United Nations meeting in Paris in December”.

          “It’s better than Japan. It’s almost the same as New Zealand. It’s a whisker below Canada. It’s a little below Europe. It’s about the same as the United States. It’s vastly better than Korea. Of course, it is unimaginably better than China,” Abbott said after gaining the approval of his party room for the new post-2020 goal.

          https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2015/aug/11/tony-abbott-defends-2030-emissions-target-criticised-as-pathetically-low

          Ex PM Abbott was the LNP candidate for Warringah in the 2019 election.

          “At the time Abbott, who signed up to Paris when he was prime minister but then declared that Australia should pull out during the prime ministership of Malcolm Turnbull, confirmed he had changed his mind again during a debate on Friday morning with the independent challenger Zali Steggall and other federal election candidates in his seat of Warringah”

          https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2019/mar/08/tony-abbott-pull-out-paris-climate-agreement-after-all

          Fortunately the voters of Warringah threw him out

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            Dennis

            How many times must it be refuted, PM Abbott lost the leadership in 2015 months before the Paris Conference was held late November into December 2015, the leader of the Federal Government was PM Turnbull. It was Minister Greg Hunt who signed the Paris Agreement for Australia in New York USA in early 2016.

            In November 2016 Hunt was sent back to New York to unnecessarily ratify the Paris Agreement, apparently PM Turnbull of the “Turnbull Government” was concerned about President Trump announcing that the US would not sign the Paris Agreement.

            PM Abbott had been undermined from the day he became PM in September 2013 by the same “Black Hand Faction” (Liberals In Name Only globalists) who had been undermining him from 2009 when he replaced Turnbull as Opposition Leader. The Abbott Cabinet leaked anonymously and regularly against him. His Cabinet was divided between his supporters and Turnbull supporters.

            The point here being that PM Abbott negotiated to ignore the Paris Conference emissions target demand unsuccessfully but managed to get Cabinet to agree to a new target (first being Kyoto Agreement) as you have outlined.

            The Guardian Australia was invited to Australia by Malcolm Turnbull according to media reports so I am wary of their political commentary for accuracy as compared to propaganda spin.

            And at the 2019 Federal Election Abbott MP the former PM was opposed by so called renewables business investors and the using Union Movement’s GetUp activist organisation supporting a candidate masquerading as Independent and claiming to be a trustworthy for Warringah voters “sensible right candidate”. I think most here realise that she is a left leaning person. The campaign against Abbott MP began long before the election date was announced. The campaign has been described by experienced campaigners including former Liberal Cabinet Minister and later Speaker Bronwyn Bishop as the dirtiest campaign ever.

            However the other real Liberal and real National MPs targeted with “Independent” candidates retained their seats despite the GetUp supported campaign against them.

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            Kalm Keith

            This comment was Fact Checked at 10:30 pm.
            The results will be sequestered for seven days prior to release in the usual manner.

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        Dennis

        As Christopher Monckton warned Australians would happen in a video explaining that PM Abbott and a couple of others including in Canada and New Zealand were also being targeted because they would not cooperate with the globalist UN infiltrator climate hoaxers’ agenda.

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    OldOzzie

    ‘Police like storm troopers’: Abbott defends Vic protesters

    Former Prime Minister Tony Abbott has defended the actions of protesters who stormed Melbourne’s Shrine of Remembrance last week, as violent rallies engulfed the city over the course of three days.

    Mr Abbott, speaking on the Institute of Public Affairs Australia’s Heartland podcast, said that although “obviously people shouldn’t break the law”, he believed the protesters were within their rights to express their opposition to “unreasonable” health restrictions.

    “You’ve got people there at the Shrine of Remembrance, with flags, with placards, with the best of my observation they were simply there to make a point,” he said.

    “They weren’t being violent, they weren’t being vandalistic, they weren’t being destructive.

    “Then you had the Victorian police being lined up like storm troopers, eventually charging them with rubber bullets and teargas.

    “Now I don’t think you can say all the right was on one side there.”

    Mr Abbott said he believed the group – which Labor and CFMEU boss John Setka branded as [email protected]@is and not genuine construction workers – were people who were “sick and tired” of arduous health orders.

    “I saw a lot of people who were maybe a little misguided, maybe a little over the top, but I saw a lot of people who are sick and tired of restrictions, which frankly are now becoming absolutely unreasonable,” he said.

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      Forrest Gardener

      And then there were the nurses sitting socially distanced in a park without any apparent speeches or leaders. And they needed to be shooed away by the storm troopers at well.

      The families of the police officers involved must be so proud.

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        SimonB

        50 Nurses and one of the best spoken protesters who has been ‘front line’ and is vaccinated supporting those who she is still happy to work alongside not even heard on Australian mainstream trashmedia, then ringed by 500 blackshirt police bussed in to intimidate. Made their point and left. Classy, well organised, speaking for hundreds of workers silenced by AMA, ADA, APHRA.
        Victoria is let down by their opposition not speaking up loud enough or often enough, left to a former PM to call out disproportionate political tactics to a health issue.

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      PeterS

      I wonder what will happen when the police (and military) who mostly keep following orders from their masters mainly because they want to keep having a living looking forward to their retirement find out there is no money left to pay for the retirement? This is the stuff of major uprisings WITH arms against governments.

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      Ian

      ‘Course he did. The protesters were mainly right wing

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        clarence.t

        First time I’ve heard genuine working-class tradies described as right-wing.

        To the right of Karl, Che and Mao, perhaps.

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        Bozotheclown

        The protesters were mainly right wing

        Hmm. Labor Unions have a big problem. They’ve lead their rank and file down a lefty path and looking back on that path, they have more and more members thinking and voting right wing. More and more union members are in disagreement with the policies of the left and those supported by the union hierarchy.

        Troubled times coming for all things lefty.

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    John Connor II

    UK GOVERNMENT REPORT: VAST MAJORITY OF DELTA VARIANT DEATHS ARE VACCINATED PEOPLE, NOT UNVACCINATED PEOPLE.
    A Public Health England Technical briefing released in September 2021 entitled “SARS-CoV-2 variants of concern and variants under investigation in England” has some findings that do not bode well for vaccine supporters. The numbers show vaccinated people contracted and died of the so-called “Delta” variant of Coronavirus at a far greater rate than unvaccinated people.

    https://nationalfile.com/uk-government-report-vast-majority-of-delta-variant-deaths-are-vaccinated-people-not-unvaccinated-people/

    [18 C edit to protect the host. Otherwise, Agree with you. – LVA ]

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      OldOzzie

      From Page 19

      Table 5. Attendance to emergency care and deaths of sequenced and genotyped Delta cases in England by vaccination status
      (1 February 2021 to 12 September 2021)

      and top of page 20

      Deaths within 28 days of
      positive specimen date.

      Number of Deaths over 50≥14 days post vaccinated dose 2 = 1,565
      – unvaccinated = 590

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        TdeF

        At first sight this could be misread to argue that vaccination is ineffective as far more vaccinated people are dying than unvaccinated.
        That would be completely wrong.

        The vaccination rate in the over 50s is 95%. The 5% unvaccinated group has 600 deaths out of 2100 deaths or 28% of deaths, six times higher than the vaccinated group. So the vaccine is over 84% effective in preventing death in the very vulnerable over 50 age group.

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        Graeme No.3

        I suggest you check their sums in that Table. Sloppy work.

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      not surprising at all
      the Delta variant is a vaccine failure

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      Ian

      “Overall, we rate National File an extreme right Tin-Foil Hat Conspiracy website based on the promotion of unproven/debunked claims and a Strong Pseudoscience purveyor based on using junk science to support claims.”

      https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/national-file/

      Fully vaccinated people are much less likely to die with Covid-19 than those who aren’t, or have had only one dose, figures from the Office for National Statistics (ONS) show.

      https://www.bbc.com/news/health-58545548

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        clarence.t

        We rate “mediabiasfactcheck” as ultra-left website based on the promotion of virtue-seeking empty opinions and claims, and an anti-science purveyor based on using empty science to support degenerate and anti-human marxist propaganda..”

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    OldOzzie

    Anti-green backlash is brewing on energy squeeze

    The Australian Editorial

    The Morrison government’s deliberations ahead of the Glasgow conference come as an energy squeeze in Europe and Britain is concentrating the minds of leaders everywhere. In recent weeks, the price of liquefied natural gas has risen fourfold and the price of thermal coal has doubled to $US200 ($276) a tonne. A combination of high demand for gas in Asia and restricted exports from Russia is causing chaos in electricity markets around the world. Meanwhile, a ban on imports of high-quality thermal coal from Australia is contributing to rolling blackouts in China.

    The European crisis has been made worse by an unexpected absence of wind across the northern summer. In Germany, routinely touted as a climate action exemplar, coal unseated wind power as the biggest energy contributor in the first six months of this year. Data published by the Federal Statistical Office (Destatis) shows burning coal produced more than 27 per cent of Germany’s electricity. Wind power’s contribution to the electric grid, on the other hand, dropped from 29 per cent to 22 per cent. Meanwhile, The Economist magazine editorialised this week that, poorly handled, Britain could be on the cusp of a Brexit-style revolt over green policies. Brexit transformed Britain by tapping into ordinary people’s resentment of distant elites, and anti-greenery could do the same, the magazine said. In the public mind, greenery is coming to mean global confabs that produce yet more directives and protesters who block city centres and motorways.

    Nigel Farage, the former leader of the UK Independence Party and a major force behind Brexit, says he’s in favour of “sensible environmentalism” rather than the establishment kind that taxes “poor people to give money to rich people and big corporations while China’s going to ignore it all”. The seeds of revolt from high energy prices already have been seen in France’s fuel-price-rise-inspired yellow vest protests, along with Germany’s Alternative for Germany and Finland’s Finns Party, which have lambasted green hysteria. On top of it all is a building fight over the failure of British advisers to properly assess the cost of making a transition to net zero by 2050.

    Events overseas provide solid reasons for Australia to be cautious in how it proceeds. All things considered, Australia has a good story to tell on climate action. The federal government’s commitment to a technology-driven agenda is a sensible response to the obvious problems involved in a global shift away from fossil fuels.

    These problems loom large on the minds of world leaders who face the prospect of blackouts and a loss of public support. The Morrison government’s challenge is to maintain economic and political credibility across the board as it sets out its objectives for the future. A commitment to gas and perfecting new energy technologies to supply the rest of the world is definitely in Australia’s best interests.

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      In Germany, routinely touted as a climate action exemplar, coal unseated wind power as the biggest energy contributor in the first six months of this year. Data published by the Federal Statistical Office (Destatis) shows burning coal produced more than 27 per cent of Germany’s electricity. Wind power’s contribution to the electric grid, on the other hand, dropped from 29 per cent to 22 per cent…….

      …..I am pretty sure most bystanders ( and Politicians/decision makers),.. do not comprehend the full reality of that situation.
      Germany has more than enough Wind generation installed to supply 100% of demand ..if the weather cooperates , and is given supply priority to the grid, whilst the Coal plants are maintained on standby as backup incase the RE generation falls short of demand.
      So, for coal to exceed wind supply over a period of months is very telling because it is not just a simple competition,…..Coal is only used when necessary.
      Its a little like a football team with the Wind generators being the First choice players , and the Coal plants kept on the bench as substitutes.
      When one or two of the Wind players “run out of puff” and a couple of Coal sub’s are brought on, and the Coal players score more points than the entire Wind team managed.
      Then when the “Winded” players recover, they are brought back on and the Coal players retired again……but no more points scored.
      Its a poor team selection from a useless coach !

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        TdeF

        “Germany has more than enough Wind generation installed to supply 100% of demand”.

        The problems I never read about are commandability and reliability. You would not drive a car which was unable to respond to the accelerator or the brake. I had one friend who bought a new Jaguar XJS V12. He loved it. And he was forever amazed at the incredible variety of ways in which it broke down. So he also bought a basic Mercedes which guaranteed he could get to work.

        We all pay for this insanity. Wind, solar, biomass, ethanol and hydrogen. Unreliable, non commandable and obviously very expensive despite being told the opposite. But we are saving the planet from a massive 1.5C increase in temperature by 2100. Why?

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          Graham Richards

          Too right TdeF,
          When the wind dies out, that’s like a Coal fired plant running out of coal!!! When did we last hear of a generator running out of coal, which is a tangible commodity, stored in large heaps.
          When wind generators run out of wind there is no “heap of wind” to take your shovels to.
          Everyone shouts climate change…….so supposing the Climate does change & wind patterns diminish temporarily or in ever increasing frequency ….. at least the coal storage heap will still be there.
          Unicorns will never store that much wind no matter what BS you feed them on!

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            Dennis

            Wind turbines are described as being like a motor vehicle that is guaranteed to start running 2.1 days a week on average.

            But there is another problem, nobody can accurately predict what days.

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          “Germany has more than enough Wind generation installed to supply 100% of demand”. All of the time???

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            Dennis

            Of course, enough to supply 100% of demand when the wind blows at all installation sites around Germany at the same time.

            lol

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            FIFO
            September 30, 2021 at 6:22 pm · Reply
            “Germany has more than enough Wind generation installed to supply 100% of demand”. All of the time???

            Hmm ? I guess i was not clear enough..
            Germany has enough wind generation installed to THEORETICALLY supply 100% of demand
            Of course it very rarely does !

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              No Prob. Chad I thought that was what you meant. My reply was intended for the imbeciles who support the ludicrous notion that “renewables” can supply adequate and reliable electric power.

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      Raven

      The Morrison government’s deliberations ahead of the Glasgow conference come as an energy squeeze in Europe and Britain is concentrating the minds of leaders everywhere.

      Three More U.K. Power Suppliers Collapse as Energy Crisis Deepens.

      Igloo Energy Supply Ltd., Enstroga Ltd. and Symbio Energy Ltd. announced their collapse on Wednesday, representing a total of about 233,000 households. Those customers will be allocated another supplier by energy regulator Ofgem. Since the start of August, 10 utilities in the country have gone under.

      https://finance.yahoo.com/news/three-more-u-k-power-142516770.html

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    OldOzzie

    London policeman Wayne Couzens used Covid powers to detain Sarah Everard before [email protected], murder

    Sarah Everard’s mother silently screams “Don‘t get in the car, Sarah. Don’t believe him. Run” every night at the time her daughter was abducted, [email protected] and murdered by a London policeman.

    The Old Bailey was shown chilling video footage of the moment that the 33-year-old marketing executive was conned and detained while walking home from dinner at a friend’s house in southwest London on March 3 this year by a serving police officer, Wayne Couzens, who had used Covid powers to handcuff her and force her into his vehicle.

    The court heard how Couzens, who had two prior complaints of [email protected] misconduct filed against him, had used knowledge of Covid powers to lure Ms Everard.

    Couzens had worked Covid patrol shifts in January 2021, and the prosecutor said he “was therefore aware of the regulations and what language to use to those who may have breached them”.

    Prosecutor Tom Little QC said: “The fact she had been to a friend’s house for dinner at the height of the early 2021 lockdown made her more vulnerable to, and, or more likely to, submit to an accusation that she had acted in breach of the regulations in some way.”

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    OldOzzie

    Scott Morrison needs to show us what his government really stands for

    PETA CREDLIN

    On the pandemic, though, at least so far, his conviction has been that safety trumps freedom so lockdowns have been justified; and his judgment has been that he can’t win a fight with the premiers over state border closures.

    That probably was the case last year, but not any more, particularly given that state decisions to order people to stay at home and to close businesses have forced a federal government committed to budget repair into the biggest debt and deficit in our peacetime history.

    That also has forced a Liberal Party committed to individual freedom to acquiesce to restrictions unprecedented even in wartime.

    There’s no doubt that this has perplexed the Liberal base. Hence the importance of the submarine deal as a reset that finally has given committed conservatives, who have wanted this for years, a reason to re-elect the government that goes beyond “the alternative would be worse”.

    Yet despite the wind the submarines issue has put in Morrison’s sails, it won’t be front of mind for most voters come next May. After two years when everyone’s life has been liable to constant up-ending, and half the country has been subject to intermittent house arrest, most voters will want to put this purgatory behind them. The danger for Morrison if borders are not well and truly open and lockdowns are not wholly in the past will be his indelible association with the most miserable time in voters’ lives.

    It was never going to be easy to win a fourth term, coming from behind after the redistribution. As well, any prime minister would struggle to be re-elected after presiding over the most chaotic breakdown in the federation in a century. After 18 months of a national cabinet where Morrison has been more the chairman of a committee than a national leader, his challenge is to take charge of domestic policy the way he has taken charge of national security policy. But that will mean being ready for the fight with the premiers that he has shirked since the start of the pandemic.

    All the premiers are putting their own construction on what was announced as the national cabinet decision to end general lockdowns at 70 per cent vaccina­tion and to end state border closures at 80 per cent vaccination.

    Western Australia and Queensland are reserving their right to pursue a Covid-zero policy with lockdowns in response to any outbreak and to keep their borders closed as long as there are significant Covid numbers anywhere else. Apart from the resentment rampant in NSW and Victoria about the health authoritarianism that has ruled our lives since the pandemic hit – and the ineptitude highlighted by Wednesday’s workplace charges against the Victorian Health Department over last year’s hotel quarantine debacle – I can’t see Australians wanting to re-elect any prime minister who says the unity of the nation is out of his hands or none of his business.

    Almost by definition, a prime minister’s job is to tackle the issues that are too hard for everyone else; the issues where there will never be a consensus until someone has had the courage to make a decision and then make it stick. Because Morrison has clung to “safety before freedom” public opinion on the pandemic, my fear is that his next choice will be for a popular decision rather than the right one; that he’ll opt for the easy headlines on net zero rather than the hard graft of taking on the premiers who have locked people up and locked people out for far longer than needed.

    Stopping federal payments to the states in breach of national cabinet decisions (which has been flagged) and launching a High Court challenge to continued border closures (which hasn’t been flagged) would make more electoral sense than joining Malcolm Turnbull (as flagged in Wednesday’s press club speech) at Glasgow where no commitment Morrison could make would win over the climate alarmists.

    Net zero may please the so-called “modern (left-wing) Liberals” and their dinner-party mates in woke boardrooms momentarily. But it will dismay every Liberal who thought this government was first elected to end Labor’s emissions obsession and therefore should not sign up to a Labor-lite climate agenda that means, across time, almost 100 per cent intermittent, renewable energy, only electric cars and almost no meat in our diets because of the emissions from agriculture. And their feelings have only got stronger with the Prime Minister ruling out nuclear power in recent weeks.

    For any successful Liberal government, the important thing is to make our country stronger. Morrison undeniably has made us stronger with nuclear submarines and AUKUS; and he certainly would help our strength were he to end lockdowns forever.

    But any opting for net zero would make us substantially weaker and poorer in the face of a China that won’t cut its own emissions and invokes climate change only to damage its foes.

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      Serp

      It will make sense to vote when a party appears having as its principal priority a full purge of the woke in the armed forces followed by universal conscription for twelve months so we can at last begin Australia’s decades overdue move to self reliance on a hybrid Swiss-Israeli model in order that within five years we’ll have a population which can defend itself at household level.

      Allocated by shoreline length thirty-five virtual subs would be apportioned two each to Victoria and New South Wales and twelve to Western Australia; the rest would be Tasmania three, South Australia four, Northern Territory five and Queensland seven. So make it thirty-six and give one to Jervis Bay for its meagre thirty-nine kilometre frontage. https://www.ga.gov.au/scientific-topics/national-location-information/dimensions/border-lengths

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    OldOzzie

    IOC Says Only Chinese Citizens Allowed to Attend 2022 Winter Games in Beijing

    The International Olympic Committee announced on Wednesday that only Chinese citizens will be permitted to buy tickets to attend the 2022 Winter Games in Beijing.

    The IOC made its decision after “wide-ranging consultations” with China’s communist government, the committee said in a statement.

    “Tickets will be sold exclusively to spectators residing in China’s mainland, who meet the requirements of the COVID-19 countermeasures,” the IOC said on Wednesday. “Specific requirements on COVID-19 countermeasures for spectators from China’s mainland and the details of ticketing arrangements are under discussion and development and will be released to the public in due course once they are finalized.”

    “The IOC and IPC welcome the decision to allow for the sale of tickets to spectators residing in China’s mainland,” the committee added. “This will facilitate the growth of winter sports in China by giving those spectators a first-hand Olympic and Paralympic experience of elite winter sports, as well as bringing a favourable atmosphere to the venues. However, all parties feel for the athletes and the spectators from around the world, knowing that the restriction on spectators from outside mainland China had to be put in place in order to ensure the safe holding of the Games this winter.”

    The committee also reiterated the full vaccination policy for all participants. But the IOC added that “Athletes who can provide a justified medical exemption will have their cases considered.”

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    OldOzzie

    The Societal Impacts of COVID Propaganda Using the Promotion of Irrational Fear

    September 29, 2021 Sundance

    Neil Oliver gives a well considered perspective of how millions of people within each nation’s population are prone to being psychologically manipulated by fear. As a consequence there is a general outlook of anxiety amid those ordinary people who are not internally strong, psychologically independent, or carrying a strong stable mind.

    Good discussion….. Many good points made about how multinational corporations and Big Tech are merged ideologically with government to create one big mess of anxious and panicked people.

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      Old Goat

      Old Ozzie,
      In the same vein:https://youtu.be/yVF03WTeyj8 . This is Martin Foley advising that 78% of covid cases in hospital are double vaccinated. Food for thought. The australian media is covering up the coverage of overseas condemnation of our lockdowns . This is double pluss ungood….

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        OldOzzie

        Old Goat as per above re UK
        From Page 19

        Table 5. Attendance to emergency care and deaths of sequenced and genotyped Delta cases in England by vaccination status
        (1 February 2021 to 12 September 2021)

        and top of page 20

        Deaths within 28 days of
        positive specimen date.

        Number of Deaths over 50 – ≥14 days post vaccinated dose 2 = 1,565
        – unvaccinated = 590

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          GARETH+LEWIS

          You must factor in the percentage of vaccinated v unvaccinated as well, which is about 88/12, so there are about 7 times as many vaccinated in the group. If my thinking is anywhere near right, that still means the death rate in the unvaccinated is a bit under 3 times worse. I realise that there might be a range of other factors behind the raw data that might distort this apparent number.
          If my thinking is awry, I’d appreciate being put straight.

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            Old Goat

            Gareth,
            The relevant point here is that the vaccine is SUPPOSED to prevent severe illness and death . There should not be any or at least very few . Defence rests your honour….

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              Strop

              I don’t think there has been any creditable claim that vaccination prevents severe illness and death. Even the drug companies don’t claim 100% effectiveness.

              The figures that Old Aussie has above relate to cases presenting to emergency and includes cases that may have been presenting for reasons other than covid. e.g. The deaths in those figures are not necessarily deaths from covid. They’re deaths where there was a positive covid test in some period preceeding the death.

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          TedM

          To do a better interpretation of the data it would be good to have % vaxxed by age group, at a reasonably high resolution.

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        Strop

        I think you’ll find that Martin Foley mis-spoke and meant to say 78% of covid cases in hospital are not vaccinated, but he just said vaccinated.
        He certainly didn’t say “double vaccinated”. That’s your interpretation of him saying 78% vaccinated and 17% (or was it 18%) single vaccinated.

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          TedM

          He said 78% fully vaccinated and 17% partially vaccinated.

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            Strop

            Yes, I said that’s what he said. I believe it was a mistake by him. A slip of the tongue omitting the word “not”.
            Here are the stats https://covidlive.com.au/report/daily-vaccination-status/vic

            I don’t know how official those stats are but they use the same numbers Foley mentioned but allocate the 78% to not vaccinated.

            Plus given Victoria has less that 50% of the population fully vaccinated, and most of the covid cases are from the areas that have a lower vaccination rate, and we have seen data that shows the vaccination reduces hospitalisation rates, what do you think the chances are that 78% of those in hospital are fully vaccinated, with just 17% 1 dose, and 5% unvaccinated versus the chance of Foley accidentally omitting “not”?

            I know he said what he said. But you know it’s most likely an error on his part.

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              Strop

              Correction. Foley did not say “78% fully vaccinated”. At 3:00 mins into the video posted by Old Goat Foley said, “Of the people who were in hospital yesterday, 78% were vaccinated and 17 were partially vaccinated.”

              Note the absence of the word FULLY. You will also note the absence of the word NOT.
              But clearly the word “not” was intended to precede the word vaccinated rather than the word “fully”.

              All the data and commentary in the days/weeks leading up to Foley’s presser had the hospitalisations as a very high percentage of NOT vaccinated.

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                Serp

                Which is to say the remaining five percent were the fully vaccinated; more likely is that the Victorian Department of Health doesn’t believe in white arithmetic where it always adds up to one hundred percent.

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                Strop

                Yes. Surely they can admit that some fully vaccinated people require hospitalisation for covid effects. It’s all about narrative with that lot.

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          Sceptical+Sam

          You are correct Strop.

          And, as I’ve stated elsewhere, yesterday the Acting Chief medical Officer for Victoria corrected Minister Foley’s incompetence and gave the correct statistics.

          https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-09-29/unvaccinated-make-up-98-per-cent-of-total-icu-covid-cases/13563118

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            Old Goat

            Strop and Sam,
            One minuite we have a govt minister saying “78% are vaccinated ” and then the assistant health officer stating that “98% are unvaccinated” . I call shenanigans . Overseas data as old ozzie has pointed out does not show this.

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              Strop

              A week ago the hospital cases were 98% not fully vaccinated. (a figure that combines unvacs with single dose vacs) So the ass health officer was probably a few days out of date or you only saw them say it a few days after they said it.

              Overseas data also shows a much higher rate of vaccination. So of course there’ll be a higher % of those in hospital being fully vaccination.
              If 100% of people are vaccinate them 100% of people in hospital will be vaccinated.

              Overseas data shows the vaccination reduces the chance of hospitalisation and those not vaccinated are proportionally more likely to be hospitalised from covid.

              All the evidence suggests Foley mis-spoke.
              I don’t like the Vic govt. I don’t like the lockdowns. I hate the idea of compulsory vaccination. I hate the idea of vacs passports. But I don’t let that cloud my judgement as to what it’s likely Foley meant to say vs what he actually said.

              See stats for Sept 28
              https://covidlive.com.au/report/daily-vaccination-status/vic

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              Strop

              I’ve just seen the video of the Acting Chief Health Officer stating the 98% you heard. I was after Foley’s numbers but the acting CHO was referring to the percentage of people who were admitted to ICU. Not people who were admitted to hospital.
              Foley was referring to people admitted to hospital. Not all of the hospital admissions need to be in ICU.

              No shenanigans.
              https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ok85BmPyl_I

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      l have seen for a long time that sooner or later content will disappear and your searches will be nothing but rubbish that suits the narrative they are wanting put out there, it ends up a waste of time

      the same can be said of government websites eg… TGA or DHHS that have after realising the data does not show what they want to show take the data down and change it to suit,
      you cannot unsee what you saw though LOL

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    Richard+Ilfeld

    Judging only from what I can see locally, our internal migration in the US, especially of a quite productive cohort,
    is accelerating. Some jurisdictions are threatening to terminate or actually terminating medical workers, law enforcement,
    teachers,and corporate employees dues to vaccination status. Companies in my area in Florida are actively recruiting them, offering
    bonuses, retention of seniority, and moving aid. UHaul and Penske are offering premiums to folks who will deadhead trucks pulling
    trailers back to the northeast and take public transport home.
    Not many mandates here.
    No state income tax is just a happy bonus for these folks, and they probably didn’t want to move, but feel forced to.
    I don’t worry much about how folks who are forced to move by this kind of politics will vote in the future.
    I will refrain from speculating on whom we may to encourage to move back north to fill the vacuum.

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    OldOzzie

    Florida Governor Ron DeSantis Drops Truth Bomb On Australian Response To COVID, Questions if Diplomatic Relations Should Be Reviewed

    Anyone who has watched events unfold in Victoria (Melbourne), or New South Wales (Sydney) in Australia, will admit no other westernized nation on earth has responded to COVID-19 with such extreme brutality by government toward their citizens. The view of Australia as a place of respect for minority rights, expressions of liberty, and the principle of inherent freedom has been destroyed.

    Looking from the outside, Australia is now viewed as a totalitarian dictatorship more akin to North Korea than the U.K.

    No democratic nation on earth has become more draconian and totalitarian in their effort to control their citizens than Australia. Quarantine camps, international and inter-state travel bans, harsh lock-downs and proximity limits, physical checkpoints operated by police and military, and brutal police tactics where violence is frequently used against their own citizens. The entire landscape of democracy in Australia has slowly been destroyed in the past 18 months, and it is only getting worse.

    Australian citizens are now forced to have their physical location monitored through electronic passports and check-in points where a central government database can watch where people are. Additionally, all six states have now announced that only vaccinated people will be permitted to engage in society when/if they ever make the decision to open their economy.

    Yesterday, a major U.S. politician finally had the nerve to address the issue. Speaking at the International Boat Builders’ Exhibition and Conference in Tampa, Florida Governor Ron DeSantis warned that Australia has gone too far when it comes to restricting freedoms, as it battles an outbreak of the highly contagious Delta variant.

    Governor DeSantis called out the brutality of Australia and questioned if the United States should reassess our diplomatic relationship with the regime down-under, if we are to now accept Australia as more ideologically aligned with the communist Chinese system instead of the principles of freedom and individual liberty. WATCH:

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    dinn, rob

    How modern biology’s mad mad synthetic biology, synthetic DNA, synthetic viruses/vaccines arrived via Stanford University as humanized mice https://balance10.blogspot.com/2021/09/how-modern-biologys-mad-mad-synthetic.htmld

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    OldOzzie

    Dr. Robert Malone, mRNA Vaccines Inventor, Tweetstorm Warning Goes Viral

    SEPTEMBER 12, 2021

    Here’s a screenshot of the tweet storm, or series of rapid tweets, from Dr. Robert W. Malone, MD, who is credited as the inventor of mRNA vaccine technology, and mRNA as a drug-like mechanism.

    As we reported earlier in the year, Dr. Malone was the subject of a deplatforming attempt by major search engines and some social media platforms as his anti-vaccine message began to take off — he has apparently taken the vaccine, but has concerns about long-term safety, especially in the young.

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    OldOzzie

    dinn, rob

    says – Sorry, the page you were looking for in this blog does not exist.

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    Brenda Spence

    You tube is blatant with its censorship now.

    Google-YouTube is now banning any claims that the COVID vaccines are “ineffective or dangerous” from their platform.

    YouTube doesn’t allow content about COVID-19 that poses a serious risk of egregious harm. 

    YouTube doesn’t allow content that spreads medical misinformation that contradicts local health authorities’ or the World Health Organization’s (WHO) medical information about COVID-19. This is limited to content that contradicts WHO or local health authorities’ guidance on:

    Treatment Prevention
    Diagnosis
    Transmission
    Social distancing and self isolation guidelines
    The existence of COVID-19

    https://support.google.com/youtube/answer/9891785?hl=en

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      I am sure its been said before, but why doesnt the “Intelegencia” realise that this form od censorship is a direct equivalent to the Nartsi’s. “burning of the books”. in the 1930s !
      Any trustworthy administration would jump on this behaviour quick smart !

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        Forrest Gardener

        Perhaps Fahrenheit 451 has now been added to the list of how to guides like 1984.

        The US administration won’t jump on any of this behaviour because it favours their interests.

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        Bruce

        Simple, Chad: Most of them share the same deranged politics as the gate-keepers. Or even more disgustingly statist and totalitarian.

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      PeterS

      Is it any wonder various alternative platforms and sites are popping up? There’s still one avenue though the tyrannical powers can curtail our freedoms to speak our mind – control the internet via content. It’s already being done in countries like China and NK. Although there are plans to overcome that likely eventuality in the West, such as the Nym project, the tyrannical powers will always find a way to block them. Unless a completely separate internet is created, which would be a massive undertaking and very unlikely, we might have to resort to the old ways of communications in times of tyranny – secret meetings in person with messages hand delivered to other groups meeting in secret.

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        shortie+of+greenbank

        the left are increasingly unaware of sarcasm. We could communicate in the open using overly sarcastic language in ‘support’ of their narrative to convey information to other members we need to communicate with.

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        David-of-Cooyal-in-Oz

        G’day PeterS,
        They’ve already stopped coffee shop meetings with their “lockdowns”. That would’ve been part of their plan I suspect. No chance to spread the good news of vitamin D, or of zinc or of the various ionophores in casual conversations, or even to family. And especially to family in aged care homes.

        Or perhaps they were more scared of our conversations about the lack of CO2 warming? Or is it the poor performance of the unreliable power sources? Little chance to influence the COP talks over the past year.

        Cheers
        Dave B

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    PeterS

    At leat the CCP got one thing right.

    Xi Jinping, general secretary of the Communist Party of China, is currently kneecapping his country’s most successful private companies. Why? Because they can see the associated problems by seeing the same thing happening in the US when big tech companies gain too much power, and it’s destroying the West. China doesn’t want the same thing to happen to them. Sounds reasonable. Trouble is of course the CCP is also evil so it’s ending up between a war between two evils. Who will win? Too early to tell.

    Xi Jinping Grasps for Power, Even If It Means Hurting Business

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      Former Alibaba CEO Jack Ma pointed out this discrepancy in his own resignation letter. Effectively ousted from the tech powerhouse he helped create, Ma lamented, “Simply relying on individuals or blindly following a system will not solve our problems,” and highlighted the benefits of the governance structure he created at Alibaba, saying, “I have full confidence that our partnership system and efforts to safeguard our culture will in time win over the love and support from customers, employees and shareholders.”

      It’s exactly that collaborative attitude that prompted the recent about-face from the CPC. As China’s economy has grown, the Chinese people increasingly see businessmen like Ma as the heroes of Chinese prosperity — and that has clearly become a headache for the CPC. Speaking of the measures the party has taken against Ma and his business empire—including blocking the Ant IPO—one apparatchik likened them to “putting a bridle on a horse.”

      Why’s that? Because these billionaires and their companies know the Chinese people better than the CPC and they genuinely value—and respond to—their individual needs and wants. This service and reliability is completely antithetical to the communist ideology.

      But on the other hand, the recent crackdown provides evidence not of the Party’s strength, but of its weakness. Its efforts to bridle China’s tech stallions may be just the outcropping of a tectonic power struggle. And that raises some important questions: Has China’s Big Tech already stolen the hearts and minds of Chinese people away from the Party? And how far is the Party willing to go to reassert its dominance, whether over domestic companies or in the South China Sea and Taiwan?

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      Old Goat

      Peter S,
      China is acknowledging that money is a powerfull force and ensuring their control over the people who can wield that force . They have used that weapon (and propaganda) to subjugate the USA . In the near future the USA will implode due to spending creating stagflation and idealogical paralisis . I am hoping this may transform into the people of the USA becoming colour blind and egalitarian as they are forced to help each other to survive. I can hope…

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        PeterS

        That’s pretty much it as the article hints. Whether Americans wake up soon enough to effect a change is doubtful. It’s all heading the wrong way, partly because of the heavy indoctrination being propagated in schools and MSM, and partly because people have become too lazy to think for themselves and find it hurts their brains so they leave it up to the politicians and MSM to do the thinking for them. I can’t see how that nexus can be broken, apart from the obvious one being when the public can’t withstand the greater pain by tyrannical governments. Even a nice and friendly dog will bite back if prodded too much and too hard. I suspect though even if that happens it will too late as our governments would have grown far more tyrannical and powerful, and would clamp down on the public even harder. It would be very much like the Roman Empire, Naz1 Germany, CCP, Pol Pot, NK, etc. all combined and on steroids. I seriously hope I’m not alive when it happens but if I am I will live and die with the knowledge I have a true Saviour, Jesus Christ.

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    M Allinson

    Apologies if this item has been posted on an earlier thread, but for me this is the most comprehensive and detailed examination of the Covid issue I have yet seen, from all perspectives – medical, social and psychological:

    https://www.theautomaticearth.com/2021/09/spartacus/

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      yarpos

      Worth repeating, not everyone is on every thread

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      very interesting
      l have been hearing about ventilators not being the right treatment for covid lately like is described in the summery point two
      when l have had a couple of people telling me the benefits of the jab it usually ends with “you dont want to end up in ICU on a ventilator do you?” LOL

      thanks for posting

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    Vicki

    We are now learning that UTUBE intends to down any content which criticises or negates COVID vaccines.

    I am a digital subscriber to The Australian, which I particularly prefer because it provides complete coverage of the Letters page, as I am a regular contributor. Today, when attempting to access this page, I received a warning that the connection, subs.theaustralian.com was not secure for me to access.

    Any idea, people, what this is all about? Is it just a everyday hacker scam, or something more sinister?

    Nothing would surprise me anymore. BTW I have notified The Australian – although contact is very difficult.

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      el+gordo

      He overdosed.

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      Hanrahan

      According to Heisler’s obituary, she died of “cancer-related complications” on September 19.

      It seems to me that the concept of immunising the vulnerable is flawed. Those vulnerable to rona are also vulnerable to the jab and “whistle blower” nurses have noticed that cancers in remission flare after the jab.

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        Brenda Spence

        But her Twitter feed said that she was under a cardiologist looking for a hospital place, couldn’t get it and had to wait hours in ED. 🙁

        [That “ED” definitely not this ED] ED

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        “Those vulnerable to rona are also vulnerable to the jab”

        the TGA has a warning for this

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      shortie+of+greenbank

      that there is 100% ‘protection’ from covid. You just feel a little ‘lifeless’ though.

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    M Allinson

    A Wish

    I wish I were a Leftie,
    How wonderful it would be:
    A rational thought bereftie
    Chanting mindlessly.

    So cozy in the hive-mind
    I’d buzz with all my peers:
    Though dark within we’d strive-blind
    And chant to numb our fears.

    No need to think again
    When answers are provided;
    No trace of doubter’s pain
    When by propaganda guided.

    I wish I were a Leftie
    Absolved from human thought,
    For human thought’s too hefty
    So I’d chant what I was taught.

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    el+gordo

    Any thoughts of biological warfare are now in the bottom draw.

    ‘Xi called for stronger measures to prevent and curb biological risks, stressing the need to build up the nation’s governance system and capacities to establish a sturdy biological shield.’ (China Daily)

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      Forrest Gardener

      Hmmm. I wonder what I would say if I was dictator and intending to launch another bioweapon.

      Or as Sir Humphrey would say, never believe anything until it has been officially denied.

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        Sceptical+Sam

        Biological shield against whom?

        If you were General Milley you’d pick up the phone and tell your enemy the opposite of what you intended to do. Unless of course you are General Milley, and then you’d tell your enemy what you didn’t intend to do.

        A bit like Major Major in Catch 22; when he’s in he’s out, and when he’s out he’s in.

        “Major Major never sees anyone in his office while he’s in his office.”

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    l have spoken to plenty of people who have recently been jabbed who have told me their reasons for getting the jab, not one has said because they are scared of covid although l do believe some are the main reason has been either to keep there jobs or so they can get back to what used to be our normal and travel
    nobody has told me they did it to stop the effects of covid

    anyone looking at being vaxxed for there job should watch this first IMHO
    https://www.facebook.com/watch/live/?ref=watch_permalink&v=607241924053438

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      Strop

      I got vaccinated because I would prefer to have a mild reaction to covid than a possible severe reaction. But mainly because my parents are 93 and 87 and I’d like to minimise the risk of me bringing the virus to them when I visit them. Sure, a vaccinated person can still carry the virus. But evidence suggests the contagious period and load is less for vaccinated than unvaccinated.

      Plus, there’s a good chance one or both my parents will be in an aged care facility in the near future and vaccination is likely to be a requirement for visitors.

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        Vicki

        I support any decision that others make regarding vaccination. And I sympathise with your concern for your elderly folk. And there is evidence that the “vaccines” may lessen the severity of infection.

        However, there is no evidence that I am aware of, that the viral load is less is vaccinated, than unvaccinated carriers. Indeed, Fauci himself confirmed that nose titres show that the viral load is about the same for both.

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          Forrest Gardener

          And viral loads being equal the injected are far more likely to be clueless about their condition.

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          Pulltheotherone

          Further to your comment regarding viral loads this report is hot off the press (issued yesterday in US). It has not been peer reviewed so take it as you will. ” No significant difference in viral load between vaccinated & unvaccinated”
          https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2021.09.28.21264262v1

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            John+R+Smith

            Harr … ‘viral load’… euphemism for infected.
            It’s a ‘load’ … no doubt.

            Mass Psychosis … the educated are the most vulnerable.
            We’re smart, ’cause we invent fancy terms, often from a dead languages, for stuff.
            I’m off to do ‘anthropogenic’ activities … all day.
            I’ve been anthropogenically altering my existence for … well … since evolution produced me.
            How dare me.

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              John+R+Smith

              “Sir …
              you cannot work because your nasal swab is positive for the V”

              “But, but …
              I’ve been vaccinated! See .. here are my papers.”

              “Oh! …
              in that case, no problem, I mislabeled your status, you are not infected, you just have a ‘viral load’.
              You may continue to work.”

              Kee .. rist Almighty.

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          Strop

          This study suggests there is less viral load in vaccinated people.
          https://www.nature.com/articles/s41591-021-01316-7

          If there’s not then the lesser period of infection is still worth it for my situation.

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    Strop

    From Friends of Science

    New Yorker Magazine Has a Moral Obligation to Open the Climate Debate Before COP26, says Friends of Science Society

    In response to a recent podcast by David Remnick with Swedish climate activist Andreas Malm, who advocates sabotage for critical infrastructure that underpins modern society, The New Yorker has a moral obligation to open up the climate debate and demonstrate that fears of a hellscape world are exaggerated, says Friends of Science Society. Swedish climate scientists Hans Jelbring and Gösta Petterson and the more than 900 scientists and scholars of CLINTEL say there is no climate emergency.

    https://www.prweb.com/releases/new_yorker_magazine_has_a_moral_obligation_to_open_the_climate_debate_before_cop26_says_friends_of_science_society/prweb18229438.htm

    The above link goes into more detail and includes some relevant links.

    Upcoming online event (2 Oct)
    https://friendsofscience.org/index.php?id=2588

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    Vicki

    Great commentary from American writer who was opposed to the COVID “vaccines”, contracted COVID, a little nervous about what would happen, was moderately sick, recovered speedily & is even more opposed to the vax program.

    https://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2021/09/an_antivaxxer_catches_covid.html

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      OldOzzie

      Meanwhile, reports from highly vaccinated Israel (where Pfizer has the COVID drug monopoly) indicate that, compared with fully vaccinated people, unvaccinated Israelis with prior COVID infections enjoy seven times better protection against COVID hospitalization.

      Israel is already moving along with booster shots, as daily cases hit an all-time high in August.

      It appears to me that these mRNA vaccines will prove to be like heroin, requiring more and more to get your “fix,” while doing more and more harm with each episode.

      And as Microsoft has done with its software, Pfizer and Moderna are now happily achieving a subscription business model for their drugs. Millions or billions of people will be forced to become regular pharma customers, as government mandates guarantee a steady cash flow for the quasi-monopolies.

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      Kalm Keith

      That linked post is a great piece of work.
      Covers everything in a very believable and sensible way

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    Graeme#4

    For EG, or anybody that can provide info:
    EG mentioned 50 nuclear reactors in China. Can anybody provide links to details about these reactors, including build times and build costs. I have some data, but would appreciate more.

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        Thanks EG. That site seems to provide more information. One interesting tidbit is the relative costs of energy in China, showing that coal and nuclear were cheaper than wind and so,at.

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      Graeme No.3

      Graeme #4:

      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nuclear_power_in_China

      Has details of the type of reactors & some dates but nothing about costs.

      NOTE that sometimes lists can include research reactors such as Lucas heights which don’t add much to the grid (typically 1 – 5MWh).

      The following was about the latest reactor a liquid fuel thorium (fluoride) type being built near the Gobi desert and supposedly starting up in August this year. The comments aren’t mine and I don’t know whether the MOU is still in existence.

      And a little piece found by accident “Other international collaboration with China’s TMSR program has come from Australia. One of the nation’s chief advocates for nuclear power, Dr Adrian (Adi) Paterson, former CEO of the Australian Nuclear Science and Technology Organisation (ANSTO), headed discussions with China’s Shanghai Institute of Applied Physics which saw Australia sign a memorandum of understanding (MOU) for collaboration on the next generation nuclear reactors. The MOU was signed in 2012 and renewed in 2019. The world desperately needs more of such win-win initiatives in technological development!”
      Who was the P.M. in 2012?

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        MP

        Are you pair related, older brother?

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        Graeme#4

        Thanks Graeme. Have been exploring the Wikipedia data, but as you say, no info on build times and costs. Another interesting piece of info was the construction startup of the world’s first SMR, planned for completion in five years. Perhaps Australia has to wait another five years at least to see how this SMR works out before embarking on a nuclear program.

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    Erasmus

    Well done Jo, covering the major issues of these troubled times. The over-reaction of our various governments to the virus has done so much damage, and although the VicPol take the prize for brutality and unnecessary stringency, all state police forces might ponder their roles. The mandate for masks outdoors is peak idiocy, and we will never forget how the authorities and police soft-pedalled the BLIM/Antifa style protests and then turned on the more normal citizenry in an entirely different fashion.
    There should also be more discussion of the alternative to mRNA vaccines, namely the viral vector technology in Astra-Zeneca. The dead virus approach is used every year in our annual flu shots and is a safer course to follow than these new “experimental” and not properly approved gene technologies. They have been given “emergency” approval, and the major suppliers I believe have immunity of a different sort – against lawsuits as and when side effects are categorised and proven.

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      Thanks Erasmus. Bear in mind I think the government underreacted — they should have stopped the flights and kept Chinese bioweapons in China. Gladys was incompetent, and locked down far to late, too little, and thus doomed NSW to the worst kind of lockdown — the long slow horrible one. And also infected every other state of Australia causing more lockdowns.

      One hazmat suit could have stopped all this.

      No virus = no excuse for incompetent governments to use their ghastly state power and do mandatory vaxxing etc.

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        PeterS

        So are you advocating 100% and permanent lockdowns from day 1? No nation has ever actually completely stopped all travel in and out their nation, at least not in any Western nation. Be realistic.

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          MP

          I believe she would of done exactly what is being done now, only earlier, had us all in hazmat suits to boot.

          Science.

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          MP

          The $50 hazmat suit continually mentioned as the solution, we call tyvek overalls. Nurses face covering, as the blogger tells us would do as they are both safe and effective’ unless the driver is sweating virus, but then the suits are breathable.
          The stuff is called PPE for a reason, (personal protective equipment) it is to protect the wearer only.

          Hazmat suit specifications
          A covered zipper is at the front
          A hood with a tightening strap.
          Elasticised wrist and ankle cuffs.
          Oversized to fit over clothing
          Ergonomic Protective Design
          Light weight and breathable. (breathable, just so you understand)
          Made from woven sealed polypropylene – SMS material which provides a combination of breathability and protection from paint, liquids, sprays, powders, and dust.
          Individually packaged
          Colours are Orange, White or Blue
          Complying to the following Standards: Type 5. Particle-tight clothing (Meets EN13982-1); Type 6. Limited splash tight clothing (Meets EN13034.2005)
          Australia wide delivery available

          A real Hazmat suit for a virus would require an air source, probably a snorkel off a land cruiser would suffice, with a nurses mask over the intake, pumped when waiting at the lights.
          Exhausted air would need to be expelled outside.
          The suit would need to be positive pressure, which sort of misses the point. Would look like the Michelin Man, driving nah, I will walk thanks.

          They can fly a plane, I’m sure they can drive a Mini bus.

          I would put links to the suits mentioned, but naaaa

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      MP

      Our police do not discriminate as it appears on overseas news.
      Our police took a knee for the BLM protests and to this day they take a knee into any other protestors, for their safety.

      Its all about a virus don’t you know.

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        Kalm+Keith

        Just watched that clip of the Vic policeman who approached from behind, pinned the guys arms and smashed him to the ground head first.
        Vic authorities are investigating and the policeman is suspended.

        This assault is one of many.

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          David Maddison

          And it’s only being “investigated” because it was caught on video and went viral.

          I think the officer is suspended for two weeks on full pay.

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    Analitik

    China’s electricity shortages are caused by coal shortages; not emissions reductions

    https://www.reuters.com/business/energy/chinas-widening-electricity-crisis-caused-by-coal-shortage-kemp-2021-09-28/

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      Graeme No.3

      Reduced output from hydro (weather related) and increased output by generators struggling to satisfy increased demand from industry and consumers leading to shortage of stocks, and probable rationing.
      Just like Germany and the UK where output from wind has almost halved (weather related) and they’re running out of gas.

      PROOF: China is a developed country hence needs to make stupid decisions (like buying less australian coal?) and stop burning coal. Sarc/

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    another ian

    A refresher course for moderators – start here

    http://www.smalldeadanimals.com/2021/09/29/blog-notes-29/#comment-1509834

    “Bob”

    and fo;;ow down the thread

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    OldOzzie

    James Morrow: Sydneysiders are still coming to grips with what the future holds

    We must hold politicians and other public figures to account to make sure we get the freedoms we have been promised after lockdown, writes James Morrow.

    More than getting back to the pub or having a haircut or catching up with friends and relations, Australians should demand a return to the era when words had meaning.

    Because while the nation has done an admirable job getting jabs in arms after what can politely be called a rocky start, we have done somewhat less well getting our heads around what comes next.

    Take Gladys Berejiklian’s road map for reopening, which frankly only looks good to us in Sydney because we’re not in Melbourne dodging the CFMEU’s Dan-tifada.

    When the Premier said there would be no freedom day, she meant it.

    Never mind the national plan she signed up to calls for ­“(exempting) vaccinated residents from all domestic restrictions” at 80 per cent.

    Even when we hit that goal, we will still be restricted in the number of visitors to the home, at the cinema, at funerals, at weddings and countless other places – and we’ll still have to wear those cursed masks indoors.

    Instead, we will have to wait until the next milestone, 90 per cent, for a further easing – but not, as the plan calls for, an ending – of restrictions for the vaccinated.

    Capacity limits will still apply, and even your family barbecue will be limited to one person per two square metres.

    Can you taste the freedom yet?

    The notion that we in NSW (or anywhere else in Australia) will ever hit that endemic phase, where we do like the Danes and so many other nations and get on with our lives, seems impossible to imagine.

    It’s all Alice In Wonderland stuff, where 80 per cent means 90 per cent and an end to restrictions means venue owners forever keeping their tape measures handy to stay on the right side of the 2sq m rule.

    And it foreshadows a world where our freedoms are from here on going to be subject to the whims of the Kerry Chants of the world, endlessly pursuing higher vaccination rates or lower case numbers or whatever their post-pandemic obsession is.

    Decades of indoctrination in the schools plus a latent suspicion of American-style appeals to liberty have made it easy for fans of the ­public health lobby, which has long been encroaching on our rights to enjoy life as we see fit, to mock ­people for wanting their “free-dumbs”.

    The media must also take its share of blame, particularly the ABC and some commercial television networks.

    They must be held to blame for platforming the most alarmist of epidemiologists and never correcting the record when their dire predictions don’t come true.

    But our politicians – and the health bureaucrats who have cowed them – are able to get away with this because we seem to have lost any language with which to have a ­proper and constructive debate about the extent we trade all of our rights and risks.

    Instead, the triumph of what might be called therapeutic culture has turned the public square into some sort of giant marriage counselling session.

    Feelings like fear are given prominence over rational discussions about what is and isn’t dangerous, and so no one can go to the beach without being shamed on Twitter – though, happily, police have not taken Therese Rein’s recent call to arrest Bondi sunbathers to heart.

    Yet.

    And speaking of police, this is also why so many have been so silent about what has been occurring in Melbourne.

    While the left would normally be aghast at scenes of cops spraying crowds with “nonlethal munitions” and beating down civilians with rifle butts as occurred last week in Melbourne, instead all we have heard is criticism of the “entitlement” of protesters but those who complain about lockdowns and restrictions in general.

    Of course, no one is more entitled than the Covid-Zero crew, which believes all of us must give up years of our lives and experiences and opportunities and schooling to indulge their neurotic fears around the pandemic.

    Either way, it’s the language of the psychiatrist’s couch or the daytime talk show set, not the serious policy debate.

    This is also why the lockdowns’ toll on mental health has come into such sharp focus – not just because of their real and devastating impacts, but because talk of emotional wellbeing has a currency that mere appeals to liberty no longer do.

    The great danger, then, is that even when the physical threat of the pandemic is gone, the political one remains.

    While people were rightly terrified of the Spanish flu and took on board whatever health advice they had at the time to try to get through it, there was also a desire to get back to normal.

    Today, though, there is a lot less sense even of what normal was – or is to be

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      tom

      I still stop by daily to check this site. Amazed that each & every article is not screaming for citizens to take back their freedoms.
      I can only assume the owner of the site fears what the govt may do, or worse…agrees.

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      OriginalSteve

      Unless people demand thier freedoms back, they will keep shifting the goalposts until every person is held down and forcibly injected by gumint agents…and even then they wont do it.

      You are dealing with jackals in human form.

      People need to wake up….40 police with riot gear to crush a freedom protest is not about medical issues….

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    Grogery

    So the puddleduck gestapo have imposed restrictions on the Townsville LGA due to 1 covid case (allegedly).

    Townsville was “plan B” if the NRL final needed to be moved from Suncorp Stadium due to covid issues in brisbane.

    Mmmm, how convenient that the game cannot be shifted to Townsville now.

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    David Maddison

    Did you know Vicdanistan now has an electric vehicle tax? It is in the form of a road usage charge and if internal combustion engine drivers have to pay it I don’t know why EV drivers shouldn’t have to. I just hope it works out about the same for both vehicle types and subsidies aren’t directed to the EV’s by way of lesser tax for the same driving.

    https://www.drive.com.au/news/victoria-passes-road-user-tax-for-electric-vehicle-owners-industry-reacts/

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      Dennis

      The answer is simple, drivers of vehicles using public roads with internal combustion engines, and therefore 99 per cent of vehicles, pay fuel excise/tax on every litre of fuel they buy which is for roads maintenance.

      Contrary to one of the favourite leftist responses when renewable specific subsidies are mentioned, that mining subsidies include fuel excise rebate (not a subsidy but refund), tax for fuel not used in vehicles on public roads, farmers and other off road vehicle users are also eligible for the rebate, electric vehicles do not use petrol or diesel fuels.

      Therefore EV drivers will pay a road usage charge/tax instead.

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        Hanrahan

        Therefore EV ICE drivers will pay a road usage charge/tax instead. as well as fuel tax.

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            Dennis

            No they charge tolls for using the tollroads they now own until a long term future date when the roads are handed back to state governments.

            But the road usage charge for EV is similar but would be charged on total kilometres driven, but how that would work and be charged I am not aware.

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          Dennis

          No, fuel excise and GST will continue be charged on liquid fuels sold, the road use tax is for EV to collect revenue that is lost because the EV does not use liquid fuel.

          However, go back to 2013 and here is an example of how the EV “revolution” has been gradually imposed on Australians, with the assistance of organisations like the NRMA promoting them.

          The sales pitch often fails to explain the substantial price difference between an EV and an equivalent ICEV, and how much fuel and servicing costs that difference would pay for before the EV buyer could begin to claim lower running costs, the inconvenience of recharging time and fastest only to 80 per cent capacity and range reduction that represents, the significant loss of range at highway speed limits and the other variable energy loss factors, and therefore what the real range of a particular EV model is. My drive from home to Sydney is over 300 kilometres and I can drive there and around the suburbs and return home without refuelling my diesel 4WD, no EV can achieve that.

          Note the reference to former NSW Labor Premier K.Keneally.

          https://www.drive.com.au/news/the-rise-and-fall-of-better-place-20130218-2emmn/

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            Hanrahan

            No, fuel excise and GST will continue be charged on liquid fuels sold, the road use tax is for EV to collect revenue that is lost because the EV does not use liquid fuel.

            Never stand between a politician and a pot of money. ICE drivers will pay both “for your own good” or as a penalty, take your pick.

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      shortie+of+greenbank

      I didn’t think we had an ‘EV Industry’, we have a ‘EV Lobbyist Group’, quite vocal with nothing to support them but maybe putting money in officials pockets from what I could see. I sit about 20 – 30 m from a EV recharging point that was put in about 2015, never seen a vehicle charged from it.

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        Dennis

        Many of whom are “crony capitalists” who invest in wind and solar businesses, so called renewable energy unreliables.

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        Ross

        They installed one near my supermarket. Very inconvenient as it took up my favourite parking spot!!.

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          Dennis

          The local shopping centre near where I live has an EV recharge station but I have not yet sighted one parked there recharging.

          Same at Heatherbrae near Raymond Terrace north of Newcastle on the highway, one service station has six Tesla charging stations and they are not often used.

          Fair enough, until shorter range EV drivers compared to ICEV equivalents can travel country roads without too much range anxiety EV sales will remain a fraction of annual new vehicle sales in Australia.

          Even then I am not prepared to pay on average twice as much for an EV than for an equivalent in size and capability ICEV or spend time waiting for an 80 per cent of battery capacity recharge when travelling long distances.

          And if I was a climate hoax victim I would be appalled that the recharge electricity comes from coal fired power stations 70 per cent on average.

          However, the China new emissions growth exceeds Australia’s output a year so whatever sacrifices including expenses we make to save the planet from natural climate and weather conditions, otherwise known as an exercise in futility, are pointless.

          Politicians in general must be so gullible.

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    David Maddison

    Today I wrote to “our” TGA asking about when or if Novavax will ever be available here.

    Excerpts from letter:

    I note that having passed clinical trials, Novavax is preparing to submit their NVX-CoV2373 vaccine to the US FDA for emergency use authorization.

    It is a protein subunit vaccine which is well established technology and will be far more acceptable to people who have concerns about the mRNA vaccines on offer and would thus solve the problem of “vaccine hesitancy” among such people.

    Your urgent attention to this matter would be greatly appreciated.

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      OldOzzie

      David,

      thanks for that – if you can keep updated when you receive a reply – as I am getting intense pressure from Family, helps me explaim why I am waiting

      It is a protein subunit vaccine which is well established technology

      What are protein subunit vaccines and how could they be used against COVID-19?

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        David Maddison

        Will do OldOzzie.

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          OldOzzie

          Thanks David,

          Applied for Novavax Trial here in Sydney – yesterday afternoon – non vaccinated no covid previously, – very happy young lady, who is the Patient Recruitment Coordinator (BSc Hons) advised that the trial was full and long waiting list, and also as I am already on a Cancer Trial, cannot be on 2 Trials at once

          She agreed protein subunit vaccine way to go.

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        Serp

        Anybody’d think being enrolled in the worldwide covid investigative trial (WWCIT) is an essential attribute of personhood after absorbing the verbal exertions of our more rabid politicians such as the Member for Maranoa Mister Littleproud a fellow who regularly auditions to be the Inspector of Covid Gulags.

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      Lucky

      I imagine TGA taking great care as it will take sales away from Pfizer.
      I have great confidence in them asking for information, on trial data, on manufacturing techniques, delivery schedules, trials on Eskimo ethnics of age 80 plus and much else. The US FDA are masters at this and may send people to train TGA.

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    another ian

    “Anthony Furey – The Ontario government is now recommending the use of Pfizer over Moderna for 18-24yo males, due to their findings that Moderna has a 1 in 5,000 risk of myocarditis for that category.”

    http://www.smalldeadanimals.com/2021/09/29/safe-and-effective-12/

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    David Maddison

    If SARS-CoV-2 came from bats or other animals as CCP apologists keep telling us, why does it possess nearly optimal binding to the human ACE2 receptor? It was very likely genetically altered to optimise transmission among humans.

    https://faseb.onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1096/fj.202001808R

    “Predicting susceptibility to SARS-CoV-2 infection based on structural differences in ACE2 across species”

    In this manuscript, we combined in-depth structural analyses with knowledge of varying species susceptibility to SARS-CoV-2 infection to determine key structural determinants of infection susceptibility. First, we identified multiple key residues mediating structural interactions between ACE2 and SARS-CoV-2 RBD. Differences in these residues were used to generate a susceptibility score that can help predict animals with an elevated risk of infection for which we do not yet have experimental evidence of susceptibility, including horses and camels. Finally, we have demonstrated that SARS-CoV-2 is nearly optimal for binding ACE2 of humans compared to other animals, which may underlie the highly contagious transmissibility of this virus among humans.

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      Here is an existential problem for you. It is highly likely that many diseases have crossed to humans from other animals, most of them prior to the days of genetic engineering and lab culturing.

      How did this happen? The answer is that we encountered a vast number of viruses that do absolutely nothing or just a little bit. Some do better and some persist for long enough to do a bit of mutating and natural selecting.

      Another thought – who said it wasn’t circulating and evolving prior to the outbreak?

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        David Maddison

        So no “gain of function” research? And why weren’t predecessors of this virus ever identified if it was a natural mutation?

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          I don’t even know how to begin to address this as it suggests you have given it no thought. First of all your “weren’t” implies that it should have been found by now when someone looked somewhere it should have been. This is simply false.

          If you mean relatives, there are plenty. The direct ancestor has not been found but access has made an exhaustive investigation difficult (conveniently I am sure you want to claim).

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        David Maddison

        So no “gain of function” research? And why weren’t predecessors of this virus ever identified if it was a natural mutation?

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          Again, a ridiculous statement, rather like the creationist arguement that says that “missing links” (sic) prove (sic) that evolution (sic) is false.

          Just as easy to throw back at you – if it is gain of function, why weren’t predecessors of this virus ever identified?

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            clarence.t

            ” why weren’t predecessors of this virus ever identified”

            So, you are saying there were no natural predecessors of this virus…

            OK, thanks. 🙂

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        el+gordo

        ‘ …. changes in amino acids in the Spike protein can contribute to enhanced infection and transmission efficiency.’ (Low et al 2020)

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    Dennis

    I have emailed my State and Federal Members of Parliament and asked when we the people will be able to access the Economic Impact Report the governments based their decision to proceed with zero net emissions.

    Please ask your representatives.

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    another ian

    Hi Jo – FYI

    Seems SDA has had some hacking problems

    http://www.smalldeadanimals.com/2021/09/29/blog-notes-29/

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    David Maddison

    Are they serious?

    This is unbelievable!

    It doesn’t seem to be a joke and too early for April Fools.

    Is this where our $440 million of taxes Turnbull gave for reef “research” went?

    https://www.reuters.com/business/environment/little-fluffy-clouds-may-help-save-australias-great-barrier-reef-2021-09-28/

    Little fluffy clouds may help save Australia’s Great Barrier Reef

    To slow the speed at which high temperatures and warm waters bleach the corals of the Great Barrier Reef, Australian scientists are spraying droplets of ocean water into the sky to form clouds to protect the environmental treasure.

    Researchers working on the so-called Cloud Brightening project said they use a turbine to spray microscopic sea particles to thicken existing clouds and reduce sunlight on the world’s largest coral reef ecosystem located off Australia’s northeast coast.

    The water droplets evaporate leaving only tiny salt crystals which float up into the atmosphere allowing water vapour to condense around them, forming clouds, said Daniel Harrison, a senior lecturer at Southern Cross University, who runs the project.

    “If we do it over an extended period of time for a few weeks to a couple of months when the corals are experiencing a marine heatwave we can actually start to lower the water temperature over the Reef,” said Harrison.

    The project had its second trial in March, the end of the Southern Hemisphere summer when the Reef off Australia’s northeast is at its hottest, gathering valuable data on the atmosphere when corals are at most risk of bleaching.

    A combination of light and warm water causes coral bleaching. By cutting light over the reef by 6% in summer, “bleaching stress” would be cut by 50% to 60% on the undersea ecosystem, Harrison said.

    SEE LINK FOR REST

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      MP

      The great coral bleaching event way back before $444 million was laundered through a foundation back to Turdbull.
      The over educated over paid professional snorkelers came up with a brilliant plan to protect the reef from CO2. Solar pumps, too pump water from off the reef edge onto the reef during cyclone season. This would of required 100 000’s of pumps and panels mounted on pontoons and anchored to the reef and a huge fleet of fossil fuelled craft to move them if the weather got a bit choppy. $1.5 million was awarded to the science to do a trial project.
      After years of careful trials, (none) the solution, I believe only appeared on Cairns local news to much fanfare.
      The solution was, (I kid you not) A large rented diesel barge with a large rented diesel snow blower blowing fog about 100 meters. The trial was declared a huge, something, then forgotten.
      The renting would of cost 10s of thousands of dollars, the change went to god knows where.

      Science.

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        David Maddison

        Here is a video of the current research. It looks like this version still uses a commercial snow making machine…

        I wonder how many hundreds of thousands or millions of machines would be required to produce the desired effect and how much fossil fuel would be used doing so?

        According to Wikipedia snow making machines (pump and fan) require a lot of power, 1–2 kWh/m3 for a fan gun.

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      TedM

      “To slow the speed at which high temperatures and warm waters bleach the corals of the Great Barrier Reef, Australian scientists are spraying droplets of ocean water into the sky to form clouds to protect the environmental treasure.”

      So Svensmark is right, clouds do control; the climte.

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        Serp

        And ultimately it is the cosmic rays creating the clouds as shown by Nir Shaviv in the youtube video “The Cloud Mystery -Svensmark, Shaviv & Veizer” which I first saw in 2015 and may still exist.

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    yarpos

    Saw a small media kerfuffle about ScoMo attending the Galsgow Climate Snoutfest. I dont think he should attend, he should send Barnaby instead. It would be great.

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      robert rosicka

      No Yarpos send Matt Canavan .

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      Dennis

      By private executive jet I suspect as reports indicate that he will be with Andrew “Twiggy” Forest who is another of the wind and solar investmen lobby group community here.

      Maybe they will provide seats on their return flight for Australian citizens now stranded in the UK?

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    David Maddison

    YouTube was already highly censorious but now is completely blocking all material that questions the efficacy or safety of covid vaccines.

    What are these ideas the Left are so terrified of?

    And if it can’t be questioned, it’s not science.

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      shortie+of+greenbank

      with Google’s parent owning a 12% slice of pfizer it would only make sense to protect their investment, no matter how many lives it costs….

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    robert rosicka

    No Slim Dusty fan but just seen a mention of his song about Indigo Jones which seems to be about the drought in the 80’s and the recognition of Indigo’s accuracy in long term weather predictions .

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    OldOzzie

    Biden’s Energy Price Shock

    His policies are already contributing to global oil supply shortages.

    By The WSJ Editorial Board

    Europe’s climate follies have created fuel shortages and price spikes that are rippling through global energy markets. Demand for liquefied natural gas in Europe has soared due to waning wind production, the shutdown of coal and nuclear plants, and lower Russian gas deliveries. But there’s not enough LNG to supply Europe and the world.

    Asia and Europe are having to burn more coal to keep their lights on. But coal is also in short supply, and factories in China are shutting down as local governments ration power. Gas-powered generators in Asia are switching to burning oil, which is also pushing up crude prices.

    Goldman Sachs projects that crude could hit $90 a barrel by year end, which could add 10 to 20 cents a gallon to gasoline prices at the pump. White House Press Secretary Jen Psaki on Tuesday assured Americans that the Administration is speaking “to international partners, including OPEC” about “doing more to support the recovery.” How about encouraging more U.S. production?

    OPEC and Russia are gradually ramping up supply, but U.S. oil production remains 15% below pre-pandemic levels. About 20% of production in the Gulf of Mexico remains knocked out from Hurricane Ida. Even before the storm, U.S. oil and gas producers were curtailing investment amid a hostile political climate.

    On Monday energy companies scrapped a 116-mile pipeline to deliver gas from Pennsylvania

    to New Jersey due to regulatory obstructions. Pipeline blockades by Democratic states in the Northeast have depressed gas prices and investment in the Marcellus shale in Pennsylvania. One ironic result is that, with gas in short supply, New York and New Jersey may wind up burning more oil for electricity this winter.

    Meantime, permits issued by the Interior Department for drilling on federal land declined to 171 in August from 671 in April. Democrats’ $3.5 trillion-plus spending bill includes royalty and fee increases that would make U.S. oil and gas producers globally uncompetitive. Less U.S. production will make global oil and gas prices higher for longer than necessary.

    OPEC and Russia might compensate for reduced U.S. supply. But there could still be an enormous oil shortage if U.S. and European giants scale back global production under pressure from green investors. That’s the takeaway from OPEC’s annual report on Tuesday, which projects $11.8 trillion in new oil investment will be needed through 2045 to meet demand growth and compensate for production declines at existing fields.

    OPEC estimates that global oil demand will increase 28% over the next two decades from pre-pandemic levels as low-income countries industrialize. Even as the West pushes renewables and electric cars, oil and gas are forecast to make up roughly the same share of global energy in 2045 as they do today. Nigerians and Guatemalans won’t be driving Teslas.

    From the Comments

    OPEC and Russia are gradually ramping up supply, but U.S. oil production remains 15% below pre-pandemic levels.

    48 years in government and this is what we get from the new president???

    I am totally in favor of solar energy, it’s just that I prefer my solar energy be aged a few hundred million years.

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      RickWill

      Australia can be thankful for Random Energy fruitcakes who infest the governments of the developed economies. ScoMo should be front and centre in Glasgow giving his full suppor to h religious fervour. There has NEVER been a better time to be an Australian commodity exporter.

      Thermal coal is nudging a 3-fold increase since last year:
      https://markets.businessinsider.com/commodities/coal-price?op=1
      Current price USD208/tonne (AUD288/tonne) and not just skyrocketing but going vertical.

      LNG has also made strong gains:
      https://ycharts.com/indicators/europe_natural_gas_price
      Now at USD15.49/MMBtu.

      The only way any developed country will achieve “Net Zero” is to offshore all their manufacturing to places like China and India. I wonder which country supplies the bulk of their raw materials and a good slice of their energy?
      https://tradingeconomics.com/australia/current-account
      Australia can bring in a few low paid workers to load the ships while the rest of us take overseas trips. Just be careful that you do not get caught in a some cold hole running short of real fuel.

      It is so funny that Europe has invested so much money on power generating infrastructure that occasionally produces ZERO. I wonder if I will live to see the death of the climate religion?

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    redress

    A court case which is directly relevant to the legality of mandatory vaccinations is currently being screened live here

    https://youtu.be/RRJYXZn7HPE

    They are currently at lunch and will resume at 2.00pm AEST.

    I caught the last half hour of cross examination before the lunch break. Very interesting. It seems that the person, [a practicing doctor] who is the major advisor to ATAGI and the TGA has no experience in treating covid 19 patients.

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      David Maddison

      Thanks.

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      OldOzzie

      Enjoyed 2 1/2 hours after lunch – the Professor and Doctor as Govt Defence Witnesses were not particularly impressive

      Interesting a lot of the Material Raised by the Plaintiffs Barrister was the sort of material raised here on Jo’s Blog

      The Judge raised some interesting questions of the Defence Witnesses

      Justice Robert Beech-Jones will oversee a three-day trial in which Health Minister Brad Hazzard will defend the state government’s response to the Covid-19 pandemic.

      Two plaintiffs, Al-Munir Kassam and Natasha Henry, have filed civil suits challenging ­aspects of the public health ­orders instituted in response to the latest outbreak fuelled by the Delta variant.

      Starting this Thursday, Justice Beech-Jones will hear the challenge to the rules that state essential workers must receive their first vaccinations by September 19 if they are to leave an LGA of concern for work purposes.

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    David Maddison

    In Florida (Red State), everyone who is exposed to C-19 has access to monoclonal antibody treatment if deemed to be a high risk patient, not just high risk and hospitalised patients as in Australia.

    https://floridahealthcovid19.gov/monoclonal-antibody-therapy/

    Monoclonal Antibody Therapy for COVID-19

    Monoclonal antibody therapy can prevent severe illness, hospitalization and death in high-risk patients who have contracted or been exposed to COVID-19. These treatments are widely available in Florida.

    Treatment is free and vaccination status does not matter. If you are 12 years and older and are at high risk for severe illness due to COVID-19, you are eligible for this treatment.In clinical trials, monoclonal antibody treatment showed a 70% reduction in hospitalization and death.For high-risk patients who have been exposed to someone with COVID19, Regeneron can give you temporary immunity to decrease your odds of catching the infection by over 80%.

    Monoclonal antibody treatments can be prescribed by health care providers to individuals 12 years of age and older who have been diagnosed with COVID-19 and who have been exposed to someone with COVID-19 and are at high risk for severe illness and hospitalization.

    However, to support Governor DeSantis’ initiative, there is currently a standing order in Florida signed by the State Surgeon General that allows patients to receive this treatment without a prescription or referral if administered by an eligible health care provider. Such referrals are not required at any of the State of Florida monoclonal antibody treatment sites and treatments are available at no cost to patients.

    The antibodies help the immune system recognize and respond effectively to the virus. According to the treatment guidelines, they should be administered as soon as possible after diagnosis. By providing access to these treatments at these new sites, Governor DeSantis is alleviating demand on hospital resources and further making sure that Floridians have access to all potential treatments that can help them recover from COVID-19.

    For more information, call the Florida Department of Health Monoclonal Antibody Treatment Support Line: 850-344-9637.

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      TdeF

      Mind bogglingly sensible. No wonder he considers Australia is not a democracy at all but off the rails. Interesting that he says we are more like Communist China, but he would be talking about Belt and Road Comrade Daniel Andrews who gets his instructions directly from China.

      And it’s looking more and more that he stopped the essential ready to go and funded tunnel under Melbourne so he could give new contracts to his friends. Won’t cost us a penny ended up being over $2Billion dollars of dead loss. And 800 dead people because Andrews wouldn’t allow Australian troops on the street. So how long before the Chinese Army turns up to assist him in putting down the rebel Fascists who pretend to be Melbourne workers?

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        David Maddison

        And here’s a video of DeSantis saying that.

        https://youtu.be/0XwtX4PTToI

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        Dennis

        Another big question for VicGov is where the $1.3 billion they allocated for 4,000 ICU beds went.

        Recently Chairman Dan has become agitated when questioned about this by journalists and even attempted to deny that the beds (and money) had been promised, but Sky News have broadcast the media conference images and voices involving the Minister for Health in making that announcement and then the Premier speaking in support.

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          Dennis

          What a farce in Victoria, one state government department suing another government department for breaches involving the hotel quarantine debacle.

          What about the Cabinet Ministers and other people responsible for the decisions and failures?

          Another pass the buck exercise to obtain a get out of gaol card.

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        David Maddison

        I believe one of the reasons Chairman Dan cancelled the East West tunnel because the Liberals had built very strong union anti-rorting clauses into the contract.

        Now tunnelling workers earn $300,000 per year on the other tunnel.

        https://www.theage.com.au/national/victoria/west-gate-tunnel-workers-reach-pay-deal-300k-a-year-20210610-p57zu8.html

        Tunnelling workers on the $6.7 billion West Gate Tunnel will earn more than $300,000 a year after the project’s builders cut a pay deal with one of Victoria’s powerful building unions.

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    Dennis

    COVID-19 Politics ….

    Build Back Better – be informed about the political agenda spreading since the last G7 Meeting.

    https://www.breitbart.com/europe/2020/05/31/delingpole-build-back-better-the-latest-code-phrase-for-green-global-tyranny/

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    OldOzzie

    From newcatallaxy blog Guest Post: Gab – “No jab, no job?” There is some hope

    On 27 September, 2021, the Fair Work Commission handed down its decision in the matter of Jennifer Kimber v Sapphire Coast Community Aged Care Ltd(C2021/2676).

    While the case concerned the ‘flu injection’, the Commission in its Decision, focused on COVID-19 mandatory vaccinations.

    The following verbatim excerpts taken from the Decision and brought to the public’s attention by Tanya Davies BAppSc (Phty) MP (Liberal), possibly the only politician who is concerned enough to speak up about this matter. Certainly, incurious Australian journalists can’t be bothered.

    The document can be read in full here:

    On 27 September, 2021, the Fair Work Commission handed down its decision in the matter of Jennifer Kimber v Sapphire Coast Community Aged Care Ltd(C2021/2676).

    While the case concerned the ‘flu injection’, the Commission in its Decision, focused on COVID-19 mandatory vaccinations.

    The following verbatim excerpts taken from the Decision and brought to the public’s attention by Tanya Davies BAppSc (Phty) MP (Liberal), possibly the only politician who is concerned enough to speak up about this matter. Certainly, incurious Australian journalists can’t be bothered.

    The document can be read in full here:

    The following is from the dissent, by Deputy President DEAN:

    Final comments

    [179] Research in the context of COVID-19 has shown that many who are ‘vaccine-hesitant’ are well educated, work in the health care industry and have questions about how effective the vaccines are in stopping transmission, whether they are safe to take during pregnancy, or if they affect fertility. 37 A far safer and more democratic approach to addressing vaccine hesitancy, and therefore increasing voluntary vaccination uptake, lies in better education, addressing specific and often legitimate concerns that people may hold, and promoting genuine informed consent. It does not lie in censoring differing opinions or removing rights and civil liberties that are fundamental in a democratic nation. It certainly does not lie in the use of highly coercive, undemocratic and unethical mandates.

    [180] The statements by politicians that those who are not vaccinated are a threat to public health and should be “locked out of society” and denied the ability to work are not measures to protect public health. They are not about public health and not justified because they do not address the actual risk of COVID. These measures can only be about punishing those who choose not to be vaccinated. If the purpose of the PHOs is genuinely to reduce the spread of COVID, there is no basis for locking out people who do not have COVID, which is easily established by a rapid antigen test. Conversely, a vaccinated person who contracts COVID should be required to isolate until such time as they have recovered.

    [181] Blanket rules, such as mandating vaccinations for everyone across a whole profession or industry regardless of the actual risk, fail the tests of proportionality, necessity and reasonableness. It is more than the absolute minimum necessary to combat the crisis and cannot be justified on health grounds. It is a lazy and fundamentally flawed approach to risk management and should be soundly rejected by courts when challenged.

    [182] All Australians should vigorously oppose the introduction of a system of medical apartheid and segregation in Australia. It is an abhorrent concept and is morally and ethically wrong, and the antithesis of our democratic way of life and everything we value.

    [183] Australians should also vigorously oppose the ongoing censorship of any views that question the current policies regarding COVID. Science is no longer science if it a person is not allowed to question it.

    [184] Finally, all Australians, including those who hold or are suspected of holding “anti-vaccination sentiments”, are entitled to the protection of our laws, including the protections afforded by the Fair Work Act. In this regard, one can only hope that the Majority Decision is recognised as an anomaly and not followed by others.

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      TedM

      Particularly like paragraph {180}.

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      Hanrahan

      [182] All Australians should vigorously oppose the introduction of a system of medical apartheid and segregation in Australia.

      I wonder if all the cricketing and rugby nations will boycott us.

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      Philip

      yeah me Missus got vaccinated today, had to for work. She didnt want to, but when it comes down to it, most cant afford the hassle of going to court. Its good these people do.

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      PeterS

      This is actually a slap in the face of all politicians coercing vaccinations, state and federal. It however doesn’t mean the courts will take any notice of it. They should but courts should do a lot of other things but they don’t. It now needs to be tested in the courts by taking governments there and charging them for breach of the Fair Work Commission, if that carries any weight these days.

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    TedM

    RelCoVax: a new covid vaccine under development. Sounds like a much safer and possibly more effective product.

    Dr. Robert Malone explains.

    RelCovax
    https://youtu.be/_OygHCE9F2A

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      Serp

      Why would anybody need to be fortified I’ll call it because immunisation is not possible against a virus which is 99.9x% survivable?

      The search for a more benign “vax” is driven by the lure of the profits to be made from tens of billions of mandated and indemnified doses and has nothing to do with saving humanity.

      Look at Sri Lanka suffering the consequences of banning fertilizer. Look at the northern hemisphere developed nations going into the deepening solar minimum without adequate power generation having essentially banned all hydrocarbon energy. We’ll starve in short order when the fuel runs out over coming months; the virus is a very low order concern.

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    Dennis

    Have you considered the push for zero net emissions by 2050 to become 2030?

    UN Agenda 30, that was originally Agenda 21.

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    John Connor II

    How the tide turns and how the projected failure of The Great Reset is ramping up…
    Maybe Qantas FINALLY woke up to the fact that part of Agenda 2030 was to DESTROY international travel.

    Australia’s corporate sector has finally had enough of the ongoing lockdowns that have left the country’s economy hobbled and its people cut off from the rest of the world for months.

    Increasingly frustrated by a slow vaccine rollout and the ongoing lockdowns, the leaders of many of Australia’s biggest companies, including BHP, Macquarie and Qantas have signed a letter demanding that the government acknowledge it’s time to “learn to live with the virus,” as many other countries have done, since “COVIDZero” has finally been exposed as an impossible dream.

    https://www.zerohedge.com/covid-19/australias-corporations-rebel-against-governments-draconian-covid-lockdowns

    Yep. Live with a low risk virus and an absolutely non-lethal vaccine.

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      Yet somehow Western Australia, Tasmania and the NT and SA still exist in reality. No matter how many people say we are an impossible fantasy.

      No virus = freedom. No need to vax. No need to do lockdowns.

      CovidZero is and always was the best way to deal with Chinese bioweapons, as I predicted. Thank Gladys for screwing it up for most of Australia.

      Pray that the government learns to use this against the next bioweapon from the CCP. It’s coming.

      President Xi thanks Gladys, Dan and Scott for their help spreading his disease.

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        Philip

        here here. Spot on.

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        Annie

        I haven’t seen my 99 year old mother for 2 years; that’s not freedom to me and would still be so if I lived in WA, NT or Tasmania.

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          Annie, and I have great sympathy for you and your poor mum. Where does she live?

          Bear in mind, my original hope circa Feb 2020 was that the UK would also stop the flights, keep out Covid and we could have been flying to and fro between all safe zone countries in a travel bubble.

          And if we had done the studies it might be that if travellers took preventative ivermectin we could allow travel to risky places without quarantine. I don’t know if ivermectin is that good, but if we had a triple therapy of a few antivirals it might work. Certainly, an injection of monoclonal antibodies can provide up to 8 weeks protection. Why didn’t we do that?

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            Annie

            She lives in England Jo. I have just ‘phoned her and she could hardly talk. She has just been given the 3rd shot; at 99? My opinion of that is unprintable; my poor mother.
            The UK is a huge air traffic hub; what was done here is far from easy there.
            I’m very upset that we have been deprived of commonsense treatments (commonsense, what’s that?).
            For the record, our pilot son has been flying his A380s to points near and far, except here, and is just on his way back from North America for at least the 7th time since recommencing flying this year, (if not the 8th).

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        John Connor II

        I don’t know if you believe all that or you’re just being facetious.
        I’m not having a go at you – I just can’t tell !
        I hope it’s facetious as CovidZero is pure nonsense given that it’s in the animal kingdom and indeed being deliberately injected into same.
        Oh well..move on…

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          Not facetious.

          I’m living the reality. Does WA exist?

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            PeterS

            Does the moon exist?

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            Sceptical+Sam

            I’m living the reality. Does WA exist?

            Yes. It exists.

            And, it has no Covid currently. There’s not a pub. club, bar, restaurant, footy ground or school that is unable to be visited currently. We don’t wear masks. We can do whatever we like – provided we don’t speed getting there. They’re pretty tough on speeding. Got one on my way to Margaret River last week for a mere 7 KPH over the limit. Cripes. What’s the joint coming too. I can walk that fast.

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            John Connor II

            Yes WA exists. So does Tasmania.
            So…down there in Tassie they have zero active cases. They also have mandatory social distancing, protective shields still in place, a police blitz on QR scanning compliance, (and quite a few people have had to buy new phones because the crappy app doesn’t work on older ones even though it doesn’t require any special features to run) and have actually introduced a mask mandate for events over 1,000 people.
            All for zero cases.
            Gotta love freedom.
            Wait until their borders re-open and all those double jabbed tourists flock in.
            ZeroCovid is fine in theory but not at the expense of a global socio-economic catastrophe totally avoidable by letting nature run its course.

            Continued mass vaccination will only lead to a further increase in morbidity and hospitalization rates, which will subsequently culminate in a huge case fatality wave when expansion of more infectious, vaccine-resistant variants will explode

            https://www.geertvandenbossche.org/post/a-last-word-of-caution-to-all-those-pretending-the-covid-19-pandemic-is-toning-down

            That no doubt explains to supposedly Delta based rise in hospitalisations.
            VIC – Vaccine Induced Covid

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        PeterS

        Jo, I’m surprised you would make such a silly statement that no virus means no vaccine and no lockdowns as if we could ever possibly stop the virus entering the country.

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        Gabriel Pentelie

        “No virus = freedom.”

        Is it “freedom” to not be able to travel outside Australia for pleasure, business, to visit relatives/friends, etc.?

        Is it “freedom” to not be able to receive visitors from outside Australia and/or other states/territories within it?

        Is it “freedom”, as a business owner, to face the prospect of a $250,000 fine or a year in jail if you fail to properly record the name, address and phone number of each person who enters your business’s premises?

        Etc.?

        Or is the Quixotic pursuit of ZeroCovid worth blurring (in the case of WA) or even obliterating (in the case of VA) the difference between merely “existing” (a reference to your “Does WA exist?” in a subsequent post” and “living”?

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    Philip

    The rapid uptake of vaccines in Australia is quite astonishing to me. Has there been a country in the world quicker to become vaccinated than Australia, once vaccines were available to them ? It shows one thing definitely, that is, Australians would have to be the most compliant population on the face of the earth.

    It is also no accident that we are probably the least christian nation in the western world. Australians have killed God, but they didn’t really, they replaced God with a new one, your GP.

    I have had several interactions with GPs recently, and they have all re-enforced my distrust in them. I received quite a serious neck injury, and Doctors and their Physiotherapist cousins were quite happy to just let it roll and take some pain killers, it’ll be right, was their attitude. No xrya no ct, nothing. After a few weeks and only minor improvement, my skepticism kicked in and I luckily found a very good Chiropractor who whipped me into the x ray room and is working on the problem, without drugs, and achieving very good results. Doctors hate chiropractors.

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      Australia is the lucky country. We’ve never fought on our own land against totalitarians. We’ve also not had a vax go bad in a big way either. Plus our media is more controlled and in a way that people don’t realize the lack of alternate views. There was only a small anti-vax movement here. Not like in the US.

      Perhaps we have been too lucky.

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      Destroyer D69

      My GP yesterday …A blood serum antibody test,when I requested one, is “not available” ” All vaccines leave the body” The covid vaccine is the worlds “most tested vaccine,considering the number of doses administered” WTF……Also on ABC radio this morning it is now being referred to an “innoculation”in all comments about the resistance with more attention to be given to those who resist the “Innoculation”…

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    BruceC

    What is this reporting regarding our hospitals being ‘over-loaded’ with COVID cases???

    According to June 30, 2018 (the latest I could find in a rush) figures, there are ~61,680 hospital beds in Australia, of those we have;

    NSW – ~21,250
    VIC – ~14,820
    (again, June 2018 figures)

    Now according to the Sydney Morning Herald’s latest COVID data (updated @ 9:00am daily) there are;

    1514 people in hospital nation-wide
    1090 people in NSW hospitals
    398 people in VIC hospitals

    of those;

    there are 303 nation-wide cases in ICU (total ICU capacity – 3905)
    there are 213 NSW cases in ICU (total ICU capacity – 1550)
    there are 87 VIC cases in ICU (total ICU capacity – 1476)

    Am I missing something?

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      RickWill

      Am I missing something?

      Yes. The challenge of dealing with Covid infected people in a hospital.

      Once the virus is in the community, every patient that presents has to be treated as a Covid case until proven otherwise. Anyone who comes into contact with a Covid patient without appropriate PPE needs to get tested and isolate for 14 days. Emergency department personnel are still being caught out on that one. The quarantine takes a lot of qualified people out of the hospital.

      Every patient needs to be treated as suspected Covid until a test verifies that they are not. Presenting ward needs to have the same separation as a Covid ward.

      All the hospital staff working in the Covid wards need to wear protective PPE for the entire time they are on duty and go through a careful change of gear for any break. One of my sons was the night physician at a large Melbourne hospital working the Covid wards at the peak last year. He spent up to 14 hours in PPE without any break. It is weary work. He was literally making life and death decisions. Last year were mostly old people and a key decision was whether they could endure invasive procedures in ICU. This year most in hospital in Victoria are under 40yo so I expect a higher proportion get into ICU before recovery or passing away.

      Covid is very taxing on hospitals. There have been examples in Melbourne where hospitals thought they were out of Covid risk only to be caught out and hundreds of staff requiring to self-isolate. There have also been quite a few examples of non Covid patients getting the virus in hospital.

      I can see the attitude of hospital staff hardening this year. They are over it and not willing to put their own health at risk doing the extra yards to treat people who could have been vaccinated. It is a tough job. Covid patients tend to have longer hospital stays as well.

      Victoria may be lucky enough that vaccinations are moving ahead of infections. The number in hospital is so far about half of the 2020 peak despite daily cases being higher.

      The number of beds mean nothing without qualified staff to make decisions on care.

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        Earl

        “The quarantine takes a lot of qualified people out of the hospital.”

        Seems the “vaccine” puts a lot of otherwise healthy people into the hospital. To qualify I know more people that have had the vaccine (at least one shot) than I know of people who themselves or a relative or friend have had covid. The “icing on the cake” occurred this week when a friend of my wife’s mother who had been badgering the mother to get the vaccine to the extent of saying they would no longer be their friend was taken to hospital with heart issues. This vaccinated “friend” (also in her 90s like the m-i-l) had never had issues with heart. Only this week some 3 weeks after the shot has she experienced and is now in hospital with no indication of how long her stay will be.

        For the most of last year the daughter of another friend who is an emergency ward nurse was allocated to her hospital’s covid ward. They got the grand total of 1 (one, uno, solo, singular) patient all year. Go figure.

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    Analitik

    Top pro cyclists mysteriously lose form after vaccination

    Greg Van Avermaet – https://road.cc/content/news/van-avermaet-suspects-vaccine-could-explain-loss-form-286043

    Jakob Fuglsang – https://www.fr24news.com/a/2021/07/fuglsangs-tour-de-france-destroyed-by-covid-vac

    3 teenage neopro cyclists develop heart conditions after being shot with the Pfizer vaccine.
    https://www.italy24news.com/business/167330.html

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      Philip

      For sure. Valentino Rossi had covid and his form collapsed, he’d be vaxxed too Id say. There is a hypothesis that covid is affecting impulse control too.

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    Analitik

    Senior Army flight surgeon warns pilots could die in mid-flight from vaccine side effects

    https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2021/sep/28/senior-army-flight-surgeon-warns-pilots-could-die-/

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      Just goes to show that some newspapers will publish any old thing.

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      Annie

      Like the 4 British Airways pilots; an unusual clump, all shortly after vaxx.

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        Earl

        And as I understand it the 4 deaths (I think only 3 were still active pilots) made the British aviation authorities publish some rules on when pilots were to be allowed to fly after their vax and ensuring pilots and co-pilots were well spaced as far as when each had had their shot(s).

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    Analitik

    Valentino Rossi faster in 2021 pre-season testing after recovering from CoViD and happy to get vaccinated at the test session
    https://netral.news/en/valentino-rossi-has-been-vaccinated-against-covid-19-in-qatar-so-happy.html

    Valentino Rossi to retire at the end of a disappointing season 2021
    https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2021/aug/05/nine-times-motogp-champion-valentino-rossi-to-retire-at-end-of-season

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    OldOzzie

    Did supermarkets’ closure fears fall on deaf ears?

    Rachel Baxendale

    The Australian has been told major supermarkets have met with the Victorian government several times over recent days, but feel their requests for a review of isolation protocol for fully vaccinated casual contacts are not being treated with sufficient urgency.

    The NSW government has amended isolation protocols so that fully-vaccinated workers in essential service industries are generally not required to isolate as a result of casual contact.

    Asked to respond to the issue at his press conference on Thursday, Premier Daniel Andrews said consideration was being given to reviewing isolation requirements, but he “had not been briefed” on where the issue was up to.

    “It may well be that a furloughing protocol, like a different iso protocol, is possible,” Mr Andrews said.

    Asked whether the issue should be treated with greater urgency, given the imminent threat of closed stores and empty shelves, Mr Andrews said: “They certainly haven’t picked up the phone, and given the relationship, I’m not aware of them having voiced that concern to us.”

    The Australian put it to Mr Andrews that supermarkets had met with his government twice in recent days, and felt their concerns were falling on deaf ears.

    “I’ve spoken to the CEOs and senior people in all of those businesses, and they know where I am and how to talk to me, and none of them have rung me to say that,” he said.

    “Let me get into that, and I’ll come back to you.”

    READ the full story here.

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      OldOzzie

      We can live without supermarkets , it’s Dan Murphy’s we should all be worried about ..I’ll be praying to the patron saint of drunks as soon as I can find out who it is

      Suggestions were – St. Jude Lost causes – Bacchus

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    Dave

    Has anyone seen the Guardian Article!

    It’s called

    Electricity from Clive Palmer’s coal power station would cost four times current price, report says

    Ben Smee the Author says:

    “The analysis says the cost of power from the proposed Galilee power station would be about $1/MWh. The current market price in Queensland is 25c/MWh.”

    So electricity in Queensland is currently at 25 cents per MWh?

    WOW – even at Clive’s $1.00 it is still the CHEAPEST in the WORLD!

    Why do journalist not EVER check facts!
    They just write CRAP!

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      Looks like typical reporting without editorial checking. I’m sure the headline is correctly stating the report’s contents but getting units right is probably not something they even think about.

      Anyway,

      give the Guardian a bit of slack and vote here

      https://www.theguardian.com/environment/ng-interactive/2021/sep/27/australian-bird-of-the-year-2021-vote-now-for-your-favourite

      I voted hooded plover in the first round and it was cut so I went emu wren.

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        OldOzzie

        I voted for

        Gang-gang cockatoo
        Callocephalon fimbriatum

        The smallest of our black cockatoos, with a distinctive call that sounds like a creaky door being opened, these much-loved birds are the bird emblem of Canberra. Already declining in areas like the Blue Mountains, bushfires have had a huge impact, driving these birds towards a listing on the endangered list.

        But the picture looked like a Budgerigar.

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        Dave

        Gee Eye

        I’m sure the headline is correctly stating the report’s contents but getting units right is probably not something they even think about.

        So Clive’s plant will produce electricity at 4 times normal coal power stations?

        What you’re saying is roughly $240 plus per MWh?

        I think you should also check facts!

        Be skeptical for this this one please.

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          Dave- I didn’t say anything about what I tohught the price was. Don’t misrepresent me.

          The newspaper is reporting on a report. If I look at the report (which interests me not) I am sure I will find that it has a summary that states the 4x figure, in which case the headline is 100% accurate. That is a fact. Whether the report is right or not I’ll let you worry about.

          I actually just butted in to promote the bird vote.

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            Dave

            Rubbish Gee Eye

            There is no report about the cost of electricity production!

            Try google, Bing or what ever you you.

            You stated

            “I’m sure the headline is correctly stating the report’s contents but getting units right is probably not something they even think about

            What is the current cost of coal powered electricity!

            Look over there – it’s Britney Jean Spears

            Go away, you’re WRONG!

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        Dave

        The Chlamydera nuchalis should have been in the Bird of the Year!

        It was a great error also.

        It collects more plastic rubbish than any other bird in North Queensland!

        Shame

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          there’s always next year.

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          Hanrahan

          Cheerful bird that hops rather than walk and enjoys my mulberries.

          I’d down vote the scrub turkey. Most are OK but the boss male is a real pest. I trapped mine last year and took him to the Uni. Either he, or his replacement, is back raking my yard again.

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            OldOzzie

            Yep Loads of Bush Turkeys – no nests and New Beagle pub enjoys chasing them – Resident Tawny Frogmouth Owl, thankfully no Cockatoos, though they fly over regularly, Black Cockatoos, big Families of Kookaburras who always start loudly 1 hour before Sunrise, lots Magpies, Currawongs and Lorikeets

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              Hanrahan

              My favourites are the nutmeg mannikins but they are exotic so can’t be listed. I feed them panicum and they have a ball in the birdbath. One year they were joined by domestic chestnut breasted but not since. I think they were bull finches when I was young.

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              Hanrahan

              Had 7 in my yard and 3 over the fence. Can I get a firearm licence on the grounds that I want to be self sufficient?

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        Hanrahan

        The fact that 773 voted for the Stone Curlew proves Aussies are a forgiving lot.

        They’re OK for locals but this call

        https://oeh-external.publish.viostream.com/singlevideo?v=4wbj8hb9qab3j

        scares the bejeebers outta kids trying to go to sleep. They used to carry on right under my window in my last house. You get used to it.

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          robert rosicka

          When the backpackers camp too close while up north as soon as I hear the curlew I very loudly tell the missus that the drop bears are close and not to go too far from the camper just in case they attack . I then watch for the reaction of the backpackers .

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      Hanrahan

      Wow Dave, when I read this: “The analysis says the cost of power from the proposed Galilee power station would be about $1/MWh. The current market price in Queensland is 25c/MWh.” i was about to give you a spray. Fortunately I read to the end. 🙂

      Galilee makes sense, it will be on a coal field and a lot further north than existing large scale generators. In fact it’s close to the big draglines that use oodles of electricity.

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      Tel

      I checked the article.

      Ben Smee the Author says:

      “The analysis says the cost of power from the proposed Galilee power station would be about $1/MWh. The current market price in Queensland is 25c/MWh.”

      Right now it says kWh not MWh.

      The analysis says the cost of power from the proposed Galilee power station would be about $1/kWh. The current market price in Queensland is 25c/kWh.

      I checked the web archive but the page is not in there, might have been stealth edited … can’t prove that.

      How they got to $1 per kWh is beyond me, there’s no calculation nor any link to a calculation … they don’t even say whether this is wholesale price or retail price, whether LRET is included. One might presume it’s a retail price because of the kWh units, but that might imply that LRET is the majority of what makes is so expensive, in which case there is a lie by omission there. These kind of articles are useless in as much as no matter how badly they get it wrong there’s no consequence to the author or the newspaper and they never back up their results by showing enough information to reproduce it.

      I doubt whether anyone at the Guardian has the slightest idea about power prices, they probably don’t even know there is a difference between wholesale and retail.

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        Tel

        Astounding.

        I found the original report and it has a different number again.

        Galilee Power Station would push up prices

        In the week beginning 13 September 2021, Queensland’s average wholesale electricity price was only $25/MWh. By 2025-26, when the first unit of the Galilee power station is projected to come online, AEMO and CSIRO estimate that the levelised cost of electricity (LCOE) from a new black coal fired generator in central Queensland would be $100/MWh. There are no major cost changes forecast by the time the second unit would be commissioned in 2029-30. By contrast, CSIRO found that new renewables and storage could be built to meet up to 90% of Queensland’s demand for between $50 – $60/MWh by 2030. Figure 1 shows that Galilee Power Station could never compete with new renewables and storage on price.

        So the typical Guardian journalist can’t do basic math and would have been better simply citing the original source.

        Ignoring that, is it really fair to compare a levelized cost projected for 2025 against a spot price in 2021?

        Studying the report further, it’s strange that they see cost of capital as a problem for coal plant, but not for any other kind of electricity generation … they all require capital, and wind, solar and additional transmission lines end up costing a lot more in capital in terms of their typical average contribution. They compare coal-fired generation capital costs against a battery capital costs on the basis of $ per kWh but those are doing different things. They also ignore inflation in calculating the costs of capital … for example if I’m paying 5% interest on a loan, and inflation is 3% during the time of the repayments then in real terms I’m only paying 2% on that loan. That is of course a bit of an oversimplification, but you get the general idea.

        https://www.queenslandconservation.org.au/news_and_resources#galilee_ps_financial_analysis

        There’s the link, and you can click through at the bottom for the full report.

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    MP

    The latest TGA adverse events. https://www.tga.gov.au/periodic/covid-19-vaccine-weekly-safety-report-30-09-2021

    They appear to of removed deaths.

    64 293 injured

    We are closely monitoring rare reports of blood clots with low blood platelets (also called thrombosis with thrombocytopenia syndrome or TTS) linked to Vaxzevria (AstraZeneca).

    In the last week, an additional 7 reports of blood clots and low blood platelets have been assessed as confirmed or probable TTS, bringing the total number of cases to 148.

    Now the vaccines are being rolled out more widely, we are receiving more reports in younger individuals. The TGA is monitoring these reports closely. We know from the Comirnaty (Pfizer)(link is external) and Spikevax (Moderna)(link is external) clinical trials that the most common adverse reactions in adolescents are similar to those in older people and include injection-site pain, fatigue and headache. Most of these side effects were mild and resolved within a day or two. For both vaccines, they were more common after the second vaccine dose than the first.

    We also continue to carefully monitor reports of suspected myocarditis following the Comirnaty (Pfizer) vaccine, particularly in the younger age groups. To 26 September 2021, we have received 115 reports which were classified as likely to be myocarditis.

    The Spikevax (Moderna) vaccine is now being rolled out in Australia. To 26 September 2021, we have received 5 reports of suspected adverse events.

    Pretty sure nobody is reporting a sore arm.

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      They appear to of removed deaths.

      I’m sure you meant “have” not “of”

      There is a heading explicitly about deaths with a couple of paragraphs including this one…

      Since the beginning of the vaccine rollout to 26 September 2021, over 26.8 million doses of COVID-19 vaccines have been given. So far, the TGA has found 9 reports of death that were linked to immunisation from 564 reports received and reviewed. The overwhelming majority of deaths reported to the TGA following vaccination occurred in people aged 65 years and older. The deaths linked to immunisation occurred after the first dose of Vaxzevria (AstraZeneca) – 8 were TTS cases and one was a case of immune thrombocytopenia (ITP).

      So the answer is 9.

      To quote Dave from the post above

      Why do journalist not EVER check facts!
      They just write CRAP!

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        MP

        Your right, they moved it to below the tallies.
        564 total deaths reported, they only fessed up to 9. Only up 8 since last week, been rising 20 a week before that.

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          Scientists cover their asses – and this is something we learn from bitter experience – don’t write an absolute.

          They appear to of removed deaths.

          Is absolute. And wrong.

          I can’t see any mention of deaths and unless I missed it, I summise that it has been removed.

          It is boring but it is what I have to deal with all the time, but it is how science is written.

          It is also, I am guessing (see what I did there?), more like what you did. If so, it is a factual statement of your position and your research effort.

          It blunts the impact of your statement and does not prevent my response however, you look less like a dill.

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        Hanrahan

        I’ve been called many things but never a pedant.

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    OldOzzie

    COVID MORGUE, RIP

    We (Scott, mostly) have chronicled the inept and destructive reaction to covid by Minnesota’s Governor Tim Walz. That response began with a campaign to scare the daylights out of Minnesotans that was second, perhaps, only to what has happened in Australia. A key element of the campaign of fear was the “Minnesota model,” touted by Walz and his minions as the “scientific” basis for the extreme actions they took. Never mind that, as it later developed, the model was constructed by a couple of students over a weekend. If it was made in Minnesota, it must be superior!

    The Minnesota model projected that without a draconian shutdown, 74,000 Minnesotans would die from covid. With an extreme shutdown, 50,000 would die. Those projections were the basis for the radical restrictions on our lives imposed by Walz under a never-ending “emergency.” (The emergency finally stopped when even Democrats in the Minnesota House had had enough, and voted to end it.) Of course, it turned out that the model was wildly off the mark, and, having gone through versions 2.0 and 3.0, it has now been quietly shelved and forgotten.

    As part of the Walz administration’s campaign to scare Minnesotans into compliance, the state spent millions on a refrigerated fruit warehouse. Why? To turn it into a morgue. Because there wouldn’t be room in the state’s mortuaries for the thousands of bodies that would pile up on account of covid, we needed a facility to house the corpses while they awaited a backlogged burial.

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    Jock

    Just wondering what evs will draw from the grid. A 80kwh battery recharged every say 5 days say. Say 100 thousand evs. Let’s say they all recharge at same time. That’s 8gw dispatch required. If you assume say a quarter recharge on any 1 day then 2 gw. But you can’t forecast. And that’s 100k. These things will need a lot of power.

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      Jock,
      This has been raised here several times in the past year, ..here are some facts..
      The average distance driven daily in Oz is approx 30 km.
      That would require 6 kWh of battery given a typical 5 km per kWh for an EV.
      For your 100,000 EVs that would imply a daily electricity recharge load of 600,000 kWh..
      …or 600 MWh (0.6 GWh)
      Since the normal daily grid demand is approx 600 GWh, i think you can see that the additional demand for charging those 100,000 EVs, is just 0.1% increase….IE insignificant !
      Even a million EVs would hardly be noticeable (+1.0%) from a grid demand viewpoint
      And that is before you allow for those “EV’ angelists”…who will recharge from their roof top solar rather than the grid supply.!
      PS:- how long do you think it will take to reach 1 million EVs in Australia ?

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        Raving

        For your 100,000 EVs that would imply a daily electricity recharge load of 600,000 kWh..

        Excepting holiday weekends and very cold/hot days

        Averages can go to pot

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          Sure, a concentrated panic charge event is always possible….
          But even if all 100,000 decide to charge at once, thats a total of 0.6GW. additional at worst.
          Hardly a worry compared to the daily swing between peaks and troughs of the power supply. (10+ GW)
          But more likely it would be spread over a 2-6 hour period, thus diluting the extra peak load.
          EVs are not going to crash the grid….that is already happening with the addition of Solar and Windmills !

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        Raving

        Have you been in a fuel shorage and thought about it? Take this one for example. Insufficient drivers to deliver fuel to stations

        https://www.bbc.com/news/business-58747281

        You can look at it two,ways …

        1) EVs get their power off the grid so no need for delivery trucks
        2) Those Petrol stations have large underground tanks which fuel many cars before running empty

        YMMV

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          And..
          3).. the possibility of a black out resulting in no grid or RT solar power to recharge the EV
          ……….especially if the EVs are used for “Car to grid” house supply.

          In the proposed Green future, a power supply failure is more likely than a fuel supply failure.

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          Hanrahan

          Insufficient drivers to deliver fuel to stations

          https://www.bbc.com/news/business-58747281

          If that was the whole story fuel would be overstocked in the refineries, their buying would slow and the POO would drop. It isn’t.

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        Hanrahan

        And I have often said that no engineer designs for average load. The grid must be able to cater for Easter, Xmas, school holidays AND grey nomads in their RVs on the road less travelled. Do you ever get out of the city to see how others live?

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          Do you ever get out of the city to see how others live?

          ? Who are you talking to there H ?
          …it cannot be me, as i dont live in a city. !
          And i do not see the relevance of city living ?
          But just incase i will make something clear because i have detected a resistance to EVs in these threads with various people desperately trying to find a reason to disciurage their introduction.
          Electric drive is a long overdue, and logical change for personal transportation (cars).
          There have been, ..and still are,..various reasons delaying their adoption…EG ..cost, battery technology, recharging infrastructure, service support, and fundamental lack of choice. But there is real progress on most of those to the point that an EV is a practical, even sensible choice for commuters and city dwellers.
          Of all their issues, lack of grid capacity for charging IS NOT one of them.
          For me, an EV is still too costly, and not practical where i live, but they do make sense for many in and around the cities, they can work.
          Anyone who can argue that ICE petrol is a better car for city use than an EV needs to put up a convincing argument.
          And i am NOT even concerned with emissions etc, just the everyday ownership and driving factors.

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            Hanrahan

            For me, an EV is still too costly, and not practical where i live,

            So you don’t live in the city. Don’t get your knickers in a knot. You know that country drivers don’t drive 35 kms EVERY day. They travel long distances to race meets, football games, the daughter’s eisteddfod but irregularly. How is that average? How do they get a recharge in that little town’s big weekend?

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              Why do you struggle with the concept of “average” ?
              I could go over the same process using the TOTAL kms driven and the TOTAL registered cars on the road….but the result is the same.
              Sure, for country drivers have to travel long distances for work and footy etc,..but for every one of those there are several city car owners only traveling a few kms for the same result…and even some who park the car and take the train .!
              Even me, some days i may drive 500-700 kms,….then other times i dont drive at all for days. But over the year i average about that 30-40 kms per day.
              Yours will be different, but the National AVERAGE is around 30km/day.
              Check it out on the ABS data.
              So, on AVERAGE it works out to around 30km per day each……got it ?
              And , your country boy driving his EV to remote towns without a charger……well , he chose the wrong vehicle !
              As did the city dude who bought the jacked up diesel ute, only to find it wont fit in his underground parking space, !
              Horses for courses……. understand ?

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    KevJ

    Not sure if this has already been mentioned.

    Just seems like a massive undertaking. But how many solar farms do we really need? Plus only Darwin seems to benefit on the local front.

    A colossal $22-billion infrastructure project will send Australian sunshine roughly 3,100 miles (5,000 km) to Singapore in one of the most massive and ambitious renewable energy projects ever attempted.

    Led by the Australian firm Sun Cable, the project aims to activate its high-voltage undersea cable in 2027. But first, it needs to build the world’s largest solar farm and battery storage facility, with construction set to begin in 2023.

    https://tinyurl.com/y4h7fxhu

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      David Maddison

      I’m surprised they’re still talking about this fantasy project.

      The fact that they are must mean they are harvesting taxpayer subsidies somewhere.

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        Graeme#4

        They have now obtained Indonesian approval for the undersea cable to pass through their territorial waters. Still don’t believe it will go ahead though, as the cable would be the longest by far in the world. Interestingly, losses from HVDC cables are quite low.

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          robert rosicka

          To get around the massive losses in power due to distance they will run portable floating coal fired power stations every 500 kilometres . (Sarc)

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          Hanrahan

          Reactive losses are low but resistive losses are the same as with AC. The final cable will be a complex weave of steel core for strength, an aluminium inner and prolly a copper sheath. To reduce resistive losses the voltage will/would be the highest ever engineered which will need really thick insulation. There are two cables and ANY leakage between them would eventually form a carbon track ie short.

          I cannot comprehend how such a cable would be handled but I accept that it can be done, at a cost.

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      Hanrahan

      I’m a believer on a coal/hydro grid but if Singapore wants to do this, Who am I to argue?

      Two obvious provisos:

      1/ They fund it 100%

      2/ A large performance guarantee be lodged with the feds lest it falls over and a massive cleanup is needed.

      Besides there is a major disconnect: The greens say the Carmichael coal power station will cost an “outlandish” $5.4 bill as a stand alone project but those smart Singaporians can build a 5.000 m HVDC cable and the solar farm to go with it for a piddlin’ $22 bill.

      The obvious compromise is to have those smart Singaporians build our ultra super high critical coal fired plant for a fraction of what our contractors can do.

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        Hanrahan

        I used the wrong units, this cable is only 3,100 M but that is still X15 Basslink which cost nearly $1 B in old money. Maybe they have a cheap bridge to sell instead.

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          Guys,
          We covered this earlier this week..
          Its a $100 bn project !
          The Solar farm is proposed to be 20 GW !….( yea, sure !)
          I know Cannon-Brooks is a dip stick, but i thought Twiggy had his feet on the ground better than to back this hair brained idea. ,

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      yarpos

      Fantastic , this will be an even bigger RE success/icon/benchmark RE project than Energiewende, Ivanpah, SA and Texas wind power and Flannery hot rocks combined. I am sure this will be a showpiece project for the ages.

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    el+gordo

    ‘Weather events like this summer’s heat wave in the Pacific Northwest and the floods in Europe are some recent examples of how the jet stream affects weather patterns based on its intensity or location in the short term, Osman says. But societally significant changes also occur across longer time scales; reconstructing the jet stream’s past revealed that in some years, it could be far north, only to venture more than 10 degrees farther south a few years later.

    “Such variations have huge implications on the types of weather that people might experience at a given place,” Osman says. (The World Economic Forum)

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    David Maddison

    For those that didn’t see it when I posted it a couple of days ago you might want to look at Dr John Campbell’s video on cardiac events associated with inadvertent IV injection of covid vaccines instead of intended IM (intramuscular).

    I was surprised that it was not standard procedure to aspirate a needle to ensure it wasn’t lodged in a blood vessel.

    Watch it before YouTube deletes it and he doesn’t have a platform on any free speech sites. They are on a rampage deleting anything critical of the vaccines.

    https://youtu.be/nBaIRm4610o

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    el+gordo

    Hmmm ….

    ‘YouTube ban won’t shut down most Aussie anti-vax channels.

    ‘… its content crackdown is only targeting misinformation regarding the efficacy and side effects of COVID-19 vaccines.’ (SMH)

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      clarence.t

      “its content crackdown is only targeting misinformation regarding the efficacy and side effects of COVID-19 vaccines.”

      So, the TGA, WHO, the Governments, as well as most of the MSM, are going to be blocked on YouTube ?

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    Gabriel Pentelie

    Jo wrote above (comment 27.1): “ … I think the government underreacted — they should have stopped the flights and kept Chinese bioweapons in China. Gladys was incompetent, and locked down far to late, too little, and thus doomed NSW to the worst kind of lockdown — the long slow horrible one. And also infected every other state of Australia causing more lockdowns.
    One hazmat suit could have stopped all this.
    No virus = no excuse for incompetent governments to use their ghastly state power and do mandatory vaxxing etc.”

    The above analysis relies on 2 fatally flawed premises:

    1.
    That Australia could have ever isolated itself with anywhere close to 100% efficacy. That’s an impossibility even for a tiny island like Taiwan, let alone a continent-size one like Australia.

    2.
    That, having failed to implement the above “Bubble Boy”-type measure, the only other option left to the national and/or state/territory governments was to impose, and keep imposing with ever increasing ferocity, all sorts of restrictions/mandates.

    But all that is further based on yet another fatally flawed premise: that “Zero Covid” could be achieved. That was a reasonable hope to hold on to for, say, the first 2-3 months of this pandemic. But by the summer of 2020, it was already more than amply obvious that it was no longer a realistic goal to pursue vis-a-vis this virus. And at THIS point, more than a year later, it is simply delusional.

    It would be easy to simply blame the government(s) for making such promises to the public. But making “pie in the sky” type promises, after all, is what politicians do. What’s much more troubling, rather, is the percentage of the Australian public who also believed that “Zero Covid” was ever a realistic goal, and thus supported these politicians (first by re-electing them, then actually cheering on the increasingly oppressive measures they implemented). And many, too many, continue to believe it. Ugh.

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      Serp

      Yes, just another postmodern absurdity for us to live with but without Jo where would we go to grizzle?

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      Fran

      It is instructive to think of the sort of isolation that would be required to completely block entry of the virus. All shipping would have to be blocked since ships and aircraft are operated by people. If any shipping came in, there would have to be zero contact between crew on the incoming vessel and those on land who have to handle cargo. All crew would have to be totally isolated from local people. The lady with the teeth did this in NZ for months, blocking even first class mail.

      Then, in case of a slip, anyone who was even suspected to have been close to a person from the “outside” would have to be isolated and not allowed to go home. Even a negative test at 40 cycles might turn out to be a case a few hours later, so tests would have to be several times a day. Just the tests would cause significant damage as the swabs used are hardened to actually scratch the mucosa. Quarantine facilities would have to be prisons far away from local population, and all workers treated the same as dock workers.

      It boggles the mind that a bug that obviously affects the aged and infirm (we knew this by March 2020) and unlike HxNx flus spares the young has got so many people dead scared. Here in BC, the median age of death from/with covid is 84: life expectancy is 82. The most common comorbidity is dementia. Sure we need to protect the elderly, but it is a fact that respiratory illnesses contribute heavily to a large proportion of deaths “from old age”.

      Seems the problem is the denial of the fact that life does end, and a denial of the fact that we lack full control of our lives.

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      Kalm Keith

      Thanks Gabriel.

      It’s interesting that the three wonder states that Jo identifies all have one thing in common: they are very isolated.

      The other errant states have populations that are a bit more densely packed and live with greater through traffic than the three wonder states.

      So many factors that it’s tempting to focus on the ones that seem to fit one particular view of the “best” way out.
      Gladys gets kicked while the WA Premiere is seen as some sort of demigod.
      Stockholm Syndrome.

      I have no empathy with any of our politicians in the way they’ve dealt with the COVID19 crisis and am deeply concerned about the damage done to small businesses, education and society in general.

      The harshness evident in border closures is appalling with three year olds separated from parents, students unable to return home when school finishes and ailing family members left to leave this Earth without a final goodbye.

      This is ugly stuff and has been covered over to some extent by the liberal application of Jobby type funding which will have a day of reckoning.

      In the meantime, real killer problems like diabetes 2 / obesity take a huge number of lives and are ignored?

      Why? Is it that you can’t vaccinate against these other killers?

      As far as I’m concerned, our politicians can all “go and get Jabbed.

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    Raving

    “The hugely indebted Chinese property giant Evergrande has missed interest payments to overseas investors for the second time in a week, reports say.”

    https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-china-58749594

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    another ian

    “STOP HORSING AROUND WITH IVERMECTIN”

    https://richardsonpost.com/tyler-durden/23702/stop-horsing-around-with-ivermectin/

    AND – DID THE TGA ACTUALLY READ ANY DATA SHEETS ON IVM PRODUCTS FOR ANIMAL USE?

    A couple I checked give the contents as the IVM content made up to 100% with NON-TOXIC SUBSTANCES!

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      another ian

      With treatment for “by ingestion” being basically drink water and there should be no further complications. If there are contact medical or poisons advice.

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    Tel

    Brewing your own alcohol is not so difficult, getting it consistently good is a challenge.

    Just about every winery in Australia delivers now, but usually slightly more expensive than Mc Durfies.

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