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    Tides of Mudgee

    This is a tweet from Democrat Senator Chris Murphy of Connecticut in response to Sen. Josh Hawley speaking out after announcing plan to object to electors. The lack of insight is breathtaking. ToM

    “Let’s be clear – those contesting the Electoral College are trying to overthrow democracy. They want to turn America into a state akin to Russia or China, where elections are for show and one party rules. They won’t succeed this time, but the wound to democracy is severe”

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      Democrats always accuse the Right of what they are doing themselves.

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        Chrism

        Socrates would draw out the qualities of democracy, how they may be established and then contrast that with the behaviours of each group
        and I’m guessing each would have things that count as for, neutral and against democracy

        It is probable that the Left more carry the desire to constrain choice of the ‘deplorables’ than the Right
        (and we then get into a debate as to what characterises Lt v Rt)

        imho the things that make the left more likely to constrain democracy are : belief in superior intellect and information; motivated by ‘doing good for others’ ; consider that freedom for the unwashed lead to many vices (pick any); and the better option is to have a bureacracy advised by ‘science’ making the choices for us :: think masks, immunisation, smoking, voting for other parties … the list goes on

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          Steve of Cornubia

          The defining characteristic of the Left, IMO, is their tendency to see themselves as members of an organised collective, or ‘gang’. Conservatives, OTOH, see themselves as individuals with individual rights AND responsibilities, who fight their own battles. Conservatives are not naturally herd members and it takes an awful lot to get them organised.

          Leftists know that conservatives typically don’t have the protection of a gang and so can be targeted for bullying, abuse or actual harm, with little fear of retribution. Even quite weak and pathetic Lefties can feel strong when they’re part of a baying mob.

          Put simply, it’s playground politics.

          This is the Left’s strength, and they know it. However, they are clearly terrified by the prospect of an organised Right. Why, they’re so scared of that prospect they have spent the last four years trying desperately to destroy the man who looked like he might get ordinary conservative Americans organised into a real resistance and they won’t give up till he’s been shot, beheaded, a stake put through his heart and his body burned – twice.

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            OriginalSteve

            Its simpler than that…

            Hyenas hunt in packs.

            Treat accordingly…..

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            Hanrahan

            The defining characteristic of the Left, IMO, is their tendency to see themselves as members of an organised collective, or ‘gang’. Conservatives, OTOH, see themselves as individuals with individual rights AND responsibilities, who fight their own battles. Conservatives are not naturally herd members and it takes an awful lot to get them organised.

            By your definition I’m a natural conservative but I voted until labor Rudd/Gillard/Rudd. I will never vote for them again as long as my bum points to the ground.

            My excuse is that I was working said bum off, listening to Their ABC. Time and broad band cured that.

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            Ted O'Brien.

            Their hatred is rabid. Mind you, he never did anything to engender their love. It seemed that he thought it was best to draw them out, and there I think he was right.

            Four years ago their Nirvana was just over the hill. He came along and threw a spanner in their gears. So why wouldn’t they hate him?

            But there was more. Their hatred led them to perform some criminal acts in an attempt to thwart his policies. To date they have escaped being charged with those crimes by drawing the process out. But they know that if they don’t achieve the presidency some of them will be going to gaol. If they fail to destroy Trump they won’t escape even with the presidency.

            The hysteria in Brennan’s tweet tells me that he is in mortal fear.

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        Ian

        What evidence do you have that Democrats want to turn America into a state akin to Russia or China, where elections are for show and one party rules?

        Certainly Trump’s insistence that he won the election is a prime example of an election being just for show as he was soundly drubbed by Biden losing by some 7 million popular votes and getting 46.9% of the vote comared to Biden’s 51.3%.

        If Mike Spence had listened to Trump that would have been making the election a farcical show. Fortunately he had the guts to stand up to Trump’s bullying as did Brad Raffensperger when he refused to “find 11780 votes” for Trump.

        Despite courts up and down the US rejecting all butt one of Trump’s 50+ lawsuits on the basis that the evidence was merely hearsay or incorrect due to the lack of knowledge or understanding of the election process, Trump insisted the election was rigged.

        You’re a scientist Jo used to evaluating the evidence for various claims. Do you really believe courts from SCOTUS down were deliberately lying when they gave written reasons as to why the evidence was unacceptable?

        Look at the furore over 169000 votes suddenly appearing. That was due to the fact that Michigan insists all absentee votes must be counted before the total is submitted. That took till 3am and the results were then taken to the central counting chamber. Nothing sinister there.
        Why not face facts? The evidence for fraud just isn’t there so claims by Trump are totally without foundation. He is the one wanting only one party to rule.

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          Hanrahan

          If you don’t know the Veep’s name, what else don’t you know?

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            Ian

            Yeah I have to agree that was a stupid and careless error that, as you comment, doesn’t do anything for my credibility. But I am fairly sure that the rest of my comment is factually correct as I did check those facts

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              Hanrahan

              Where did you “fact check” that there was no election frawd, CNN or snopes?

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                Ian

                Neither actually. Some from AP News. Some from the ABC. Some from the Washington Post of which there are examples below. There are plenty of others

                Trump has spread claims that voting software is “used in states where tens of thousands of votes were stolen from us and given to Biden.” He said in repeated tweets that Dominion Voting Systems is “horrible, inaccurate and anything but secure,” all of which were flagged by Twitter as disputed. He retweeted a baseless report that the voting-machine system had “deleted 2.7 million Trump votes nationwide.”

                Reality: There is no evidence that any voting systems were compromised, according to the Cybersecurity and Infrastructure Security Agency, which is part of the Department of Homeland Security. “The systems and processes used by election officials to tabulate votes and certify official results are protected by various safeguards that help ensure the accuracy of election results,” the agency notes on its “Rumor Control” page that refutes disinformation and misinformation about the accuracy of the election results. “These safeguards include measures that help ensure tabulation systems function as intended, protect against malicious software, and enable the identification and correction of any irregularities.”

                Over and over again, Trump and his allies failed to convince judges that their complaints overcame some of these hurdles. In many cases, they failed to demonstrate that they cleared any of them. Instead, judges repeatedly found that plaintiffs without standing filed cases that, per past precedent, were lodged too late, sometimes in the wrong courts, asking for disproportionate relief based on unsubstantiated claims.
                Witness statements submitted by the campaign, for instance, were “self-serving statements of little or no evidentiary value,”wrote Russell in Nevada. So-called expert testimony “was of little to no value,” and a claim of ballot-stuffing in broad daylight asserted by an anonymous witness with no corroboration he termed “not credible.”

                One of the most strongly worded opinions came from Wisconsin state Justice Brian Hagedorn, a onetime president of Northwestern University Law School’s chapter of the conservative Federalist Society, who served for more than four years as chief legal counsel to former Wisconsin Gov. Scott Walker (R).

                “Something far more fundamental than the winner of Wisconsin’s electoral votes is implicated in this case,” Hagedorn wrote, in declining to hear a case brought by a conservative group that asked the court to overturn the election results. “At stake, in some measure, is faith in our system of free and fair elections, a feature central to the enduring strength of our constitutional republic.”
                “Once the door is opened to judicial invalidation of presidential election results, it will be awfully hard to close that door again. This is a dangerous path we are being asked to tread,” Hagedorn added.

                In Pennsylvania, U.S. District Court Judge Matthew W. Brann, who served as the chairman of the Bradford County Republican Committee for more than a decade before taking the bench, compared the Trump campaign’s stitched-together legal theories to “Frankenstein’s monster.”
                “This Court has been presented with strained legal arguments without merit and speculative accusations, unpled in the operative complaint and unsupported by evidence,” wrote Brann, days after he heard Trump’s attorney Rudolph W. Giuliani personally argue the case. “In the United States of America, this cannot justify the disenfranchisement of a single voter, let alone all the voters of its sixth most populated state. Our people, laws, and institutions demand more,” he concluded.

                As is apparent Trump and his lawyers didn’t cut any ice with the judges in the examples cited not in any other court including SCOTUS which has 6 republican appointed judges and 3 judges appointed by the Democrats

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              Hanrahan

              Neither actually. Some from AP News. Some from the ABC. Some from the Washington Post

              All of which will tell you EXACTLY the same as CNN and Snopes.

              Reading a dozen MSM sources does NOT mean you have have read a variety of opinion. They are a circle squad, pissing in each others’ pockets, all getting that nice warm feeling.

              Sadly, unlike a circular firing squad no one is culled.

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                Ian

                As the examples I have given are written by the judges who assessed the lawsuits. Where the report is accessed from is immaterial as the words ain’t gonna change because the law is not going to change from court to court. The reports are all very similar as the judges legal opinions are based on the law and the law is the same for all the judges. The condemnation of the lawsuits in having no worthwhile evidence is the same as the lawsuits were all the same. It ain’t pissing in one anothers’ pockets but ruling according to the letter of the law. And as that is consistent so are the verdicts.

                Don’t like the verdicts? Don’t shoot the messenger but blame Trump and his useless campaign team who seem utterly incompetent as is apparent from the judges scathing remarks. Sorry you don’tlike the law Hanrahan but that ain’t my fault

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                OriginalSteve

                Or, the issue could be that it appears the courts are now so hopelessly corrupt they no longer function….this would be consistent with the other rot within the US weve seen.

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            Ian

            Actually after checking to make sure, the VP is Mike Pence so I did in fact use the correct name. This clearly shows you don’ know his right name which is as I initially wrote, Mike Pence. So to quote your words “If you don’t know the Veep’s name, what else don’t you know?”

            Having read two more of your comments the answer to that question is self evident

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              Yarpos

              Didnt read what you wrote upthread then, never mind I doubt Mr Spence will ever read this thread. You can remain comfortable on the self annointed intellectual and morale high ground.

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              Hanrahan

              If Mike Spence had listened to Trump…….

              This is what you wrote.

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          sophocles

          Because they (the Democraps) are now drafting legislation to take away the people’s Constitutional right of assembly, and their Constitutional Right of Free Speach. That’s what, Legislation to remove people’s constitutional rights is evil.

          I can’t be bothered trying to correct your ignorant statement about election fraud, because Jo has already done it. She did you the courtesy of posting a video — especially for the addlepates like you — to watch and learn from. What? It was just a video? You couldn’t be bothered watching it? Cheeze. You waste everyone’s time with your stupidity I will say: Trump now has the hard (<— note that word, little Ian, it's irrefutable) evidence of how it was done.

          The two MI6 agents from the UK who helped with it all in Rome, yes Rome, are now on the run. They won't last long. All the baddies as well as the goodies want them …

          The data went through the Italian govt's Leoardo (military) satellites. The Prime Minister Renzii, I believe, has been arrested. and the Acting Prime Minister Conti(?) was also involved
          and is on very shaky ground. The Italians are asking — down on their knees and begging — to be able to say to the world "the Leoardo Satellites were hacked." The US may let them … as long as they do exactly what the US want.

          Do you really believe courts from SCOTUS down were deliberately lying

          Yes. They were and still are.

          It’s all in the second video Jo posted on jan 11th. You have no excuse for not watching it.
          The funding came through Obama. He will enjoy Gitmo — he will find lots of friends there.

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            sophocles

            Darn. Spelling, sometimes I hate this keyboard:

            Leonardo satellites.

            Leonardo Spa is also Italy’s largest military contractor.

            Italy is in turmoil ATM (= At The Moment) across its government circles.

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              Wet Mountains

              I have Dyslexia. Have devil of a time seeing misspelled words or words used in the wrong context. Recently, quite by accident, I discovered a feature on WORD/REVIEW/READ ALOUD. I now write something in WORD, have it read back to me and any error stand out. It is also great for long articles often encountered on this site. Copy/paste into WORD and have it read the article to me. Works well for me anyway. Just a thought.

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                sophocles

                I’m sorry if my spelling errors mucked you around at all, Wet Mountains. Dyslexia is no fun at all. I try to check my work before I post it, but there always seems to be something I miss. I don’t use any Microsoft software at all, so your suggestion wouldn’t work for me. I can see the merits in your idea, though.

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              Wet Mountains

              sophocles: Love reading you. Keep talking.

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          a happy little debunker

          he refused to “find 11780 votes” for Trump.

          Trump didn’t ask Raffensperger to find 11780 votes for Trump – he expected Raffensperger to uncover 11780 illegally cast ballots for Biden.

          Trump was being so helpful he also informed Raffensperger where to find those illegally cast ballots

          Raffensperger declined.

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            Henning Nielsen

            My impression is that Raffensperger is under horrible pressure, we can only speculate where from. I also think that Trump actually gave him an opportunity to come clean, which Raffensperger refused.

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          GD

          the furore over 169000 votes suddenly appearing

          And all those votes were for Biden. Amazing isn’t it?

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          Ted O'Brien.

          I doubt that it is their intention to use Russia as a model. But that is the road they are taking us on.

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        Jojodogfacedboy

        Jo, President Trump has made his move…

        The implementation of the Insurrection Act began after the raid on the Capitol and was marked by Trump’s broadcast to the people to disband and return home. This broadcast wound up being blocked, for the most part, by the media. Nevertheless, his address fulfilled the requirements to initiate the Act.
        Marines and National Guard troops are being moved as needed for the riots that will start after the national release of the intel. The intel will be dropped for everyone to see and hear in loops that will be several hours long. The system was just checked by the FCC a few days ago alerting ALL media that they cannot block the flow of intel under federal regs.
        Trump will be moved continuously like a chess piece from now until the 20th in order to avoid any retaliation against him and family.
        Trump had to exhaust ALL other means legally before this operation could commence. He gave everyone a fair chance to come clean and they refused.
        His press release of a “smooth transition” did not include the word, “concede” as he has no plans to do so. Rather, there will be a smooth transition of power to his new cabinet, staff and Vice President, General Flynn.

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          Tilba Tilba

          President Trump has made his move …

          Donald Trump used the phrase “the Biden Administration” more than once, in his “farewell” speech at The Alamo in Texas today. He has conceded.

          Large numbers of National Guard troops have been deployed in Washington DC (and presumable at state capitols) to protect politicians, the public, and property from any riotous activity by Trump supporters between now and 20 January.

          The state is activating against pro-Trump forces, not against pro-Biden supporters. The Insurrection Act will be invoked if required, but perhaps not for the purpose that some pro-Trump supporters might wish.

          Neither Mike Flynn nor Mike Pence will be Vice President after 20 January. Although there is a tiny possibility that Mike Pence could be President – but only up until noon on 20 January 2021.

          If I am right Jojo and you are not, will you then stop re-posting wild rumours from the crazier corners of the Internet? Deal?

          What Donald Trump is going to do about pardons remains intriguing … including whether he seeks one for himself. It would seem prudent that he gets one … there are powerful people who wish to get at him.

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      Henning Nielsen

      It is good to see the Democrats climbing out to the very end of the branch they are clinging to. This is evidence of their un-democratic madness, and the more we see of it, the more shaky the resolve of sensible Democrat voters will be. Whatever the number who voted for Biden -certainly not 81 million, maybe 70- a fair amount of them must by now be seriously worried about what they have taken part in. Goethe’s “The Sorcerer’s Apprentice” springs to mind:

      “Master, come to my assistance! –
      Wrong I was in calling
      Spirits, I avow,
      For I find them galling,
      Cannot rule them now.”

      https://germanstories.vcu.edu/goethe/zauber_e4.html

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    kentlfc

    US PGA & The Royal & Ancient are banning Trump owned courses from hosting tournaments. They’re trying to erase him from history. I’m waiting to see if banks & credit card companies try to do the same?

    Oh boy is this going to blow back when he starts his own media company…..in 2025! 😛

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      Henning Nielsen

      It is laughable, I guess in future everyone will follow the Trump Golf Tournament and PGA is forgotten. Giuliani is also under attack from the New York association of lawyers, who want to exclude him. These are children, playing with matches.

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        Klem

        I could care less if the PGA banns Trump courses, modern golf is finished anyway. When pros can routinely tee over 425 yards, and the PGA and sports writers are perfectly ok with this, the game has truly come to an end.

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        Ian

        I think you’ll find it will be Trump and Giuliani who get burned

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        sophocles

        Over the next days, I hope they get a hell of fright from the nuclear “scare.” It will do the kiddies a lot of good.

        It could be that when this is all over, the PGA will be begging and pleading to have it back.

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    Robert Swan

    A while back I commented here that, whatever AGL might be being run for, it wasn’t doing shareholders much good. Some commenters here disagreed. To them, the yield looked pretty good with the share price hovering between $18 and $19 (IIRC). I wonder whether they took their own advice. Today’s share price is around $12.

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      William

      AGL and the various Green governments (including LINOs like NSW) are very lucky we are having a very mild summer (despite the BOM issuing its annual one of the hottest ever years gush) as the public anger to black and brownouts, if it had actually been hot, would be palpable.

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        sophocles

        But it was the the seventh hottest year over last year …

        In other words: it’s cooling, but they can’t possible say that. This may well be “eighth hottest year” and next year could be the “tenth” (or lower).

        This summer in Auckland is the coolest I can remember. It’s finally touching 24°C when it usually reaches those temps early in December. It only feels warm because I’m wearing a tracksuit top.

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    Henning Nielsen

    Here’s a bit of a moral booster for Trump supporters:

    https://threader.app/thread/1347585919742857216

    Sorry to harp on this again, but lebronsonroids also asks “Where is Haspel?” My guess; she is in costody, and maybe willing to testify. Perhaps she has spent recent days doing a “101 learn to use a whistle” course.

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      sophocles

      She was in Gitmo for a short while immediately after the Frankfurt server raid, but after her canary act, may be under long term house arrest somewhere back in the US.

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        Peter C

        Sounds like you are quoting Simon Parkes.

        Will we sere her video confession?

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        Henning Nielsen

        Sopho; that’s very intriguing. But sounds plausible. Fact is, I have never seen anything about her on the variuous pro-Trump sites since the days following the reported Frankfurt raid. To me, this looks like a signal has been given not to dig deeper until the time is right for the release of her possible confession. Any source for her Gitmo stay and canary act?

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          R.B.

          Democrats always accuse the Right of what they are doing themselves

          .

          https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/climate-deniers-shift-tactics-to-inactivism/

          Michael Mann is no stranger to the war against climate science. A climatologist at Pennsylvania State University who is currently studying the impact of climate change on extreme weather events, Mann is best known for the “hockey stick graph,” which he and his colleagues published in a 1998 scientific paper. The data visualization—featured prominently in former vice president Al Gore’s documentary An Inconvenient Truth—illustrates the precipitous rise in global temperatures since the dawn of the industrial era.

          The graph also helped make the researcher a target of attacks by climate change deniers. Mann’s e-mails were stolen, and he was investigated by government bodies and received death threats in a years-long campaign he says was orchestrated by fossil fuel companies and their allies to discredit his work. Those experiences compelled him to “enter the fray” and “speak out about the very real implications of our research,” he wrote in an op-ed in the New York Times in 2014.

          I do believe that a scientist would study if climate change actual would have an effect on extreme weather events ie look for evidence that the postulate was wrong. (No Big Oil cheque was recieved when formulating this opinion)

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      Peter C

      Thanks Henning,

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    dinn, rob

    Following traditional honeypot tactics, JiaQi worked on Hunter Biden in US https://balance10.blogspot.com/2021/01/following-traditional-honeypot-tactics.html

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    dinn, rob

    Following traditional honeypot tactics, JiaQi Bao worked on Hunter Biden in US https://balance10.blogspot.com/2021/01/following-traditional-honeypot-tactics.html

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      Hanrahan

      I don’t like those who say “I didn’t vote for Trump” and then bemoan the fact that his agenda will not be completed. Dershowitz is a classic. Says he is a democrat and then complains that the dem’s impeachment is unconstitutional. If so, don’t vote for them, it is kinda important.

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      Hanrahan

      Pakistan had a massive blackout as “frequency dropped”. Ya kiddin me, a “frequency drop” is an overload OR in truth an undersupply.

      In the comments some bright spark said

      it seems that it’s not just the actual frequency which matters, but the rate of change.

      Eer no! A slow frequency drop merely allows you to shed load, hopefully preventing the need for a black restart.

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        sophocles

        Why not Blame Trump for them? He’s being blamed for everything else.

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        Analitik

        Both matter.

        Enough frequency change causes generators to fall out of synch. As you stated, a slow frequency drop allows the operators to shed load or increase generation (inc battery output) in time to arrest and reverse the drop while a fast frequency drop may not provide enough time to prevent the generators tripping and hence the grid blackout.

        Batteries are useful in providing very fast response, especially with automated control, but the question is why they are needed in the first place since we did so long without them? The answer lies with the renewable generators – not only are they highly intermittent, increasing the rate of possible frequency drop, but they also commonly lack synthetic inertia capability, since it’s an added cost that doesn’t increase nameplate output, so the grid has less inertia to maintain frequency stability, since synchronous generators get displaced by the renewables).

        So once again, renewables add cost to the supply of reliable electricity without having to compensate consumers.

        Also, over frequency events are just as bad in terms of grid stability as under frequency but are rarer and a little easier and less disruptive to deal with.

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      Graeme No.3

      el gordo:

      There has been a follow up.

      The trouble started in France where 15 nuclear power stations were shut down and wind in Germany was “delivering” less than 0.01% of installed capacity.

      Note:
      1) February 2021 is still to come, with even lower temperatures.
      2) Also interesting is that Poland has requested Germany to restart the nuclear power plants immediately , otherwise electricity power supply would be massively at risk.

      Southern Germany. Bavaria and Austria could be kept stable, thanks to the Czech Republic grid (the Temelin and Dukovany nuclear power plants were in full operation). Bavaria has been the least excited of all States regarding renewables.

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        Analitik

        Do you have a link about the NPP situation in France? I can’t find anything on that subject.

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          Graeme No.3

          Neither have I.
          The problem seems to be concerns about CoVid transmission,
          “more than a dozen workers – mostly contractors – had walked out over the issue in the nuclear plants of Fessenheim, Civaux and Chooz,”

          Fessenheim (2 by 1GW) in the East has been ordered shut down, partly from German hysteria.
          Flamanville (2 by 1.3GW) has been plagued by mechanical (sealing) problems, and the third unit under construction also. (Cotentin Peninsula near Channel)
          Civaux and Chooz have problems with some workers worried about CoVid and presumably have also shut down.

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    PeterS

    Let’s see what Trump has to say at the live broadcast scheduled in about 13 hours:

    LIVE: President Trump Speaks in Alamo, TX 1/12/21

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      RickWill

      38k thumbs up and 669 thumbs down.

      He appears to be quite popular although it is a right side network – might be some bias with 1.25M subscribers.

      Showing 12 hours at 7am when I looked.

      Alamo would not be a good place to make a stand. The Mexican troops won that. On the other hand it gave the Texan’s the resolve to fight on and eventually claim victory.

      All interesting, great story telling or a not so graceful slide into relative obscurity.

      I am 2 degrees removed from Trump. The husband of a my wife’s closet friend met Trump a few decades ago and that meeting inspired him to start a new business enterprise that has been very successful in Australia. He was actually staggered that Trump made time for him as he just lobbed up unannounced. But then some of his success comes from taking opportunities as they present and that is how the meeting eventuated.

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      Peter C

      I think the Presidents Speech at the Alamo starts at 6am AEDST.
      Does anyone else know?

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    el gordo

    The propaganda wing of the Klimatariat is finally down from their high horse and admit the yarn they told about rising sea levels drowning islands, has not eventuated.

    https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-01-08/why-are-hundreds-of-pacific-islands-getting-bigger/13038430

    Now we have to encourage them to take an honest look at the GBR and admit that warm water doesn’t bleach coral.

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      RickWill

      The opening “despite global warming:” gets me.

      It is physically impossible for the surface of the globe to warm in the next decade, century or millennia short of a major asteroid hit that alters the surface distribution of water.

      The global temperature has thermostatic control. It is held within very narrow range. Too cold and the cool ocean blankets grow. Too hot and the tropical ocean shutters go up.

      This is a very interesting chart:
      https://1drv.ms/b/s!Aq1iAj8Yo7jNhArF7wOhjkSkQWa-
      There is next to no net heat uptake when sea surface temperature exceeds 30C. The reason being that there is very little sea surface warmer than 30C because once it gets to that temperature most of the sunlight is reflected and the surface is actually cooling:
      https://1drv.ms/u/s!Aq1iAj8Yo7jNhBPDRJjxxmWoamp0

      If it was possible to heat the water surface to 34C by some means, the shutters would be permanently closed:
      https://1drv.ms/u/s!Aq1iAj8Yo7jNhBGGUgx8VRSon9HW
      The Persian Gulf is the one exception because the dry air from the north eliminates the possibility of cloudburst in the near land-locked waterway.

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      Harves

      I love the bit about how the research that shows that islands are not shrinking due to climate change can be used to help islands that are shrinking due to climate change. You can’t make this garbage up.

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      Greg in NZ

      NIWA announced today that due to ‘accelerating climate change’ 2020 was NZ’s ‘seventh warmest year’. I’ll let everyone ponder on that mysterious mumbo-jumbo mathematics for a moment.

      Due to a fraction of a degree’s difference, our ‘average’ temperature is now 13-point- something degrees Celsius above freezing. Do I look worried? Their records go back to 1909: I much prefer looking at the geological record where, f’rinstance, ~20 mya it was 7 degrees warmer than today and our climate resembled SE Queensland’s, minus the Crown Virus of course.

      I’d say we are living in ‘interesting times’, albeit one-sided and totally biased as per media’s reportage – apart from Jo & co.

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        Klem

        Im currently in Canada where it is 10c below freezing every day. I never see our government and state broadcaster proclaiming global warming at this time of year, they only do that in the summwr.

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        el gordo

        The Medieval Warm Period in New Zealand was warmer and wetter than now, more monsoonal.

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    Analitik

    An odd case of a nursing home where Covid-19 infections and deaths only began AFTER vaccinations began

    https://www.syracuse.com/coronavirus/2021/01/covid-19-outbreak-at-auburn-nursing-home-infects-137-residents-kills-24.html

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      I am no vacc fan when there are so many good anti-viral alternatives and such a short testing time. But this kind of story doesn’t necessarily mean much. With so many vaccinations going on, and when a vaccine won’t even start to protect for a least a week, and probably longer, it is to be expected that a natural round of infections is going to happen at a place where vaccines have just happened.

      Naturally, we need the data. I hope we get it.

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        Hanrahan

        I’m with you Jo, I wouldn’t read much into it. It may be they relaxed, got careless, but I lean towards “There but for the grace of God go I”. Eventually the dice run agin ya.

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    John Lyon

    Does anyone else think that the massive stands of timber that were harvested out in the 20th century might have changed the North islands weather?

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      Hanrahan

      I wonder if massive harvesting of timber in England, France, Spain and Portugal to build wooden ships of war with their big masks changed climate. It certainly changed the landscape forever.

      Asterix hunted boar in Gaul as I recall. 🙂

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        Steve of Cornubia

        And in the UK at least, much of that lost green space is now covered over by asphalt or concrete. Just the ticket for raising the temperature and increasing flooding.

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        Kalm Keith

        Modern warships use shape modifications to make radar detection harder, but I guess masks must have served some purpose or they wouldn’t have been used.

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        Serp

        Excellent proofreading by Kalm Keith; it had got past me so I was completely baffled by the PPE talk until reading Hanrahan again.

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    TedM

    According to “the daily beast” wikileaks have dumped all their files online.
    https://www.thedailybeast.com/cheats/2012/02/27/wikileaks-dumps-shadow-cia-emails

    Word is that POTUS has declassified a mass of documents and is now under military protection at a military base. Presumably the Trump family. A friend with US connections has contacted me and said that his contacts confirm this. The trap may have been sprung!!!!! Hillary Clintons emails, stuff on Steve Jobs, compromised CIA operatives etc.

    Don’t be surprised if Twitter and Facebook etc. disappear.

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      Tilba Tilba

      The trap may have been sprung!!!!!

      What trap, backed by what support? Even Mitch McConnell has suggested he supports the impeachment of Donald Trump.

      The National Guard has been deployed to guard against Trump-MAGA forces up to and including 20 Jan … they’re not on the Trump side.

      Joe Biden and Kamala Harris will be sworn in next Wednesday. What can stop it? Leaks about ancient history (Hillary Clinton emails? Really? Still?) aren’t going to change anything. Anyway, Trump has conceded.

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        https://joannenova.com.au/2021/01/mitch-mcconnells-rich-connection-with-china/

        powerbroker of the US Senate, but he’s also a guy whose in-laws own a major shipping company that buys container ships from a Chinese Government company. The in-laws make money from carrying goods back and forward in deals with Chinese State Owned companies.

        McConnell’s wife is a Chinese-American and also happens to be The Transportation Secretary of the US Government (!). Since Elaine Chao took up that job four years ago, her fathers company has expanded rapidly and has added 40 percent more ships. Her father, James Chao, is a shipping magnate that gave his daughter and her husband McConnell a gift of at least $5 million in 2008. That’s the conservative estimate — it might have been worth as much as $25 million dollars. (Nice in-laws if you can get them.) The largess was legally disclosed. The net worth of the political couple went from $3m in 2004 to something between $9 and $36m by 2018.

        The Chinese Ship building company is called CSSC Holdings. McConnell’s wife’s family is so close to it that both her father and her sister sit on the Board of the financial arm of this Chinese company they buy boats from. It’s odd, stacked on weird, wrapped up in long explanations. CSSC is not just a boat building company, it’s the Chinese government’s military contractor. Indeed, the letters CSSC stand for the China State Shipbuilding Corporation. Get it?

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      Ted, the date on that is 2017 and the link says 2012?

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    TedM

    Wikileaks link to files, the whole bl**dy lot. Use control+f function to search through the massive list.

    https://file.wikileaks.org/file/

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    Harves

    So funny. Biden knows no one will show up to his inauguration, so he’s started requesting people don’t come. 😂😂 Now they are going to ban access, just do it doesn’t look totally embarrassing.

    https://www.usnews.com/news/politics/articles/2021-01-11/the-latest-capitol-police-names-pittman-acting-chief?context=amp

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      sophocles

      Even he might not be turning up for his supposed inauguration. Have you considered that?

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        Serp

        And Kamala Harris’s tenure in the Senate runs until 2022.

        Maybe she and Joe know they’re not going to be inaugurated and she’s hoping to escape arraignment and stay on.

        But if this milt government in Texas is put into operation with Pence sidelined in favour of Flynn what role will the House and Senate play?

        Be sure to listen in three hours time for some clarity on this I suppose.

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      Henning Nielsen

      Biden is being portrayed by MSM as a brave man, because he will be out in the open air. Protected by 15.000 national guard soldiers in the Capitol area.

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    sophocles

    Fully armed troops are moving in USA, under cover of darkness.

    Be aware there may be internet interruptions. All the big American channels will be taken down.

    There is going to be a big scare event soon.

    Be sure to pay Trump close attention.

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        Kalm Keith

        Doesn’t matter. The main thing is to put the frighters up the swamp.

        Even if it’s not true it’s good to keep them on edge for a while.

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        sophocles

        Simon Parkes at https://www.simonparkes.org/.

        Jeez … Bradleys? …

        KK:
        the troops are fully armed so if anyone tries anything with them, well, those anyones will only be missed by their mothers …. I would sympathise with their mothers but not with the animals.

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          Neo

          Jeez … Bradleys? …

          No. And yah know, troops do actually move around, both day and night in the normal course of training. Military vehicles from your own armed forces on the road is generally not considered something to wet yourself over.

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            sophocles

            And yah know, troops do actually move around, both day and night in the normal course of training.

            No? Really? Not fully armed.
            Not in civilian areas and we never moved fully armed. Only out in the training areas where civilians weren’t about did that happen.

            If you’re suffering from Incontinence Neo, do be careful. Constantly cleaning up your puddles can get wearisome, or so I’ve been told.

            But you’re right about them not being Bradleys. Would you settle for Strykers?

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              sophocles

              Bugger I’m developing an intense antipathy for the recent mozilla crap.

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                Annie

                I got rid of it after it was ‘updated’. It became horrible use; kept trying with it and then decided to bin it and go to DDG which is so much better.

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                sophocles

                you’re right Annie: It’s become horrible to use. It is now deciding when I’ve finished a post and posting it for me while I’m trying to proof it.

                That’s the sort of thing I would expect from a certain different software provider. I won’t use software that does that to me.

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          Henning Nielsen

          Didn’t see any Bradleys, they are tracked infantry fighting vehicles, only wheels on the video. Strykers, yes, that seems to be correct.

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          Wow… looking back at earlier posts … that guy has a 0% success rate at predicting things.

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      sophocles

      More good news: I like this:

      Bill Gates to be served….

      Justice department working up warrant.

      I have but one question: Will it be Gitmo?
      I know, it looks like I don’t like Bill Gates
      That’s true, I don’t. Trojan Horse vaccines to lower the human population is utterly evil, a true Crime Against Humanity.

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        Kalm Keith

        Stop it.

        It’s starting to feel like Christmas.

        🙂

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        Annie

        If indeed that is what he is doing.

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        sophocles

        Still more good news. The Wicked Witch of the West aka Nancy Pelosi has just sentenced herself to a possibly long term in jail or worse by asking the Joint Chiefs if the nuclear codes could be withheld from President Trump.

        That is Sedition which carries penalties up to 20 years in jail and in some cases the death penalty.

        Sheesh. Clever Woman. Read about here at https://www.simonparkes.org/post/yesterday

        Oh dear! Trump says “we have evidence that she has connections to the Chinese Communist Party, which will lead to additional charges.”

        Right! Her ideas such as impeachment are not even “starters for ten” — they’re non-starters. Totally.

        Nancy Pelosi, the Wicked Witch of the West, Democratic Leader of the House, heading for jail or worse. She’s the Gift Which Doesn’t Stop Giving 😀

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          Steve of Cornubia

          You say that like there is a functioning, apolitical justice system in America.

          Nah, Pelosi will get away with it because the Dems and the CCP have American justices, along with the FBI and CIA, in their pocket.

          It’s over.

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            sophocles

            You’re right about one thing: it’s over for the Swamp but they don’t know it yet.

            Trump could build the gibbet and roll out the ropes, stand back and ask the swamp creatures to line up tidily and they would … they would crush themselves in the rush.

            There is a functioning apolitical justice system in place there now the military are deployed.

            Military courts are not as … ah … flexible as the civilian ones. Ergo Pelosi and Gates won’t get away. Pelosi might if she agrees to emigrate (involuntarily) to China.

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          Tilba Tilba

          The Wicked Witch of the West aka Nancy Pelosi has just sentenced herself to a possibly long term in jail or worse by asking the Joint Chiefs if the nuclear codes could be withheld from President Trump.

          Congress (including the House) is an equal branch of government. I expect Nancy Pelosi as Speaker has broad powers to ask such questions … she is part of government indeed, and can’t be “seditious” against herself.

          In any case, she is in power until at least 3 January 2023 (when she is expected to retire) – Donald Trump has one week remaining. Who is going to charge Nancy Pelosi with anything?

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      Chrism

      where did my comment go ? big tech? bigger moderator?

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      Tilba Tilba

      Fully armed troops are moving in USA, under cover of darkness.

      Be aware there may be internet interruptions. All the big American channels will be taken down.

      Following the storming of the US Capitol, and the fairly feeble defence of the building and its occupants, would you not expect the federal and state governments to react very strongly, with large deployments, for the days leading up to Biden’s inauguration?

      Governments and law enforcement were highly embarrassed, and a lot of people would have been hauled across the carpet … they won’t let it happen again.

      I am sceptical that there will be huge rallies and violence – Trump was pretty matter-of-fact and concessional in his Alamo presentation earlier today. I think he knows he is on pretty thin ice, legally. So I’m not sure about what you’re expecting.

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    another ian

    Another “big tech – almost

    A “big tech” almost.

    I’ve got my new computer and the first major discovery was that the Windows 10 version wouldn’t allow anything not via their app store. Which most of what I use wasn’t, having had enough of Microsoft’s “left handed and backwards” approach. And 24 hours of re-exposure didn’t change that view.

    But there was a mention of being able to install such software via the clipboard – with no elaboration. And nothing on the net. So I posted a “help needed” at Chiefio and got this:-

    “the following is from a Microsoft Help Page that directly relates to your issue:

    Switching out of S mode in Windows 10
    Windows 10

    Windows 10 in S mode is designed for security and performance, exclusively running apps from the Microsoft Store. If you want to install an app that isn’t available in the Microsoft Store, you’ll need to switch out of S mode. Switching out of S mode is one-way. If you make the switch, you won’t be able to go back to Windows 10 in S mode. There’s no charge to switch out of S mode.

    On your PC running Windows 10 in S mode, open Settings > Update & Security > Activation.

    In the Switch to Windows 10 Home or Switch to Windows 10 Pro section, select Go to the Store. (If you also see an “Upgrade your edition of Windows” section, be careful not to click the “Go to the Store” link that appears there.)

    On the Switch out of S mode (or similar) page that appears in the Microsoft Store, select the Get button. After you see a confirmation message on the page, you’ll be able to install apps from outside of the Microsoft Store.”

    Sure test is if you click on the tab at the bottom lhs then “settings”, “system”, then scroll down to “about ” and then down that list to the Windows details – it will say “in S mode”

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      sophocles

      another ian

      My advice, for what little it’s worth, is:
      Don’t do anything with the machine: remove the disk drive and replace it with an MT one and load Linux onto it. Linux Mint is pretty good and very friendly. Join the Free Open Source Movement. I’ve used Linux almost full time since 1994. I have two machines and sometimes use/run OpenBSD too.

      Haven’t missed Microsoft at all.

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        Hanrahan

        I’m a Mac user and trust me I’m not about to preach, but I have been using Mac OS for about that long.

        Being a point ‘n’ click user none of the upgrades have caused me grief except the one that made it hard [too hard for me] to load adblock software. Hello Brave!

        Buy their hardware at your peril. I use a mini. The only Apple peripheral is the keyboard. I’d prefer another but while it works I’m not buying one.

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          sophocles

          MacOS is a form of Unix, it’s not quite as secure as Linux but apart from that, there’s not much wrong with it. My partner uses MacOS and I find it OK. It’s just not my cup of tea … She can work on my Linux box when she has to but it’s just not her cup of tea …

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    Harry Passfield

    The more this story of Trump’s departure plays out the more I am astonished that the so-called free press, including TV news and the Democratic Party, are so happy to humiliate the (still) POTUS. Nancy Pelosi is an extreme case with her disgusting antics – I still think her staged protest of tearing up the SotU address to his face diminished her more than him. He may not be a nice man – to some – but his democratic support and his position as Head of State surely requires that he be accorded some degree of respect. What is happening now is that it’s not just Trump being held up to ridicule but the whole USA – most especially among the USA’s enemies.

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      Dennis

      Check the major shareholders, or the ultimate owners of the shares.

      Soros is reported to be a media shareholder and a former Goldman Sachs senior executive here in Australia was reported to be The Guardian on line Australia organiser, for example.

      Controlling the MSM including social media is essential for propaganda purposes, spreading “fake news”, etc.

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      Diogenese2

      “her tearing up of the SotU address to his face diminished her…..”

      as she was sitting behind him, it was not his face she was addressing, which would diminish her even more!

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    OldOzzie

    THERE WAS NO REVOLUTION

    By Pamela Geller -January 12, 2021

    There was no revolution. Everyone knows it.

    A couple of crackpots who pranked at the Capitol are now being called a revolution. As if if that crazy ass, painted face shaman was leading – what are they calling it? Ah yes, insurrection.

    There was a call by millions of Americans for election integrity. It was met with a “shoot to kill” order and then a GREAT PURGE. It wasn’t a revolution, it was more like an ambush. No one is asking who gave the shoot to kill order or who gave the order to invite protesters into the Capitol building.

    We do know that the January 6, 2021 Capitol protesters were invited in:

    DC police showing people THEY LET IN where to go!!! (tiktok.com)

    What we do know is our people are peaceful, respectful and law-abiding. What we do know is we are a sub-class – “untouchables” – who have been brutally punished at every turn, most especially this past year by Democrat despots.

    We do know is that we witnessed months of “insurrection” – burning cities, government buildings, streets, sometimes homes, and were told it was peaceful and necessary. That was insurrection

    We watched Democrats take over the Hart Senate Building and State Capitol buildings and were told it was beautiful.

    We do know that all talk of the greatest election theft in history has utterly and absolutely ceased.

    In barely 48 hours the sitting President of the United States of America was erased from the digital world and cut off from the American people. His support networks burned to the ground. His 77 million voters dismissed as dissidents. That should scare all of us to the core.

    — Mark Allan Bovair (@markallanbovair) January 9, 2021

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    David Wojick

    China is killing us with coal (my latest research)

    https://www.cfact.org/2021/01/11/china-loves-coal-far-more-than-wind/

    China is generating almost twice as much electricity as America and two thirds of that juice is coming from coal. Wind is a token generator at 5% and is not allowed to interfere with coal power. Anyone who thinks China is going to phase out coal for wind is simply green dreaming. Coal is central to China’s power.

    Please share this.

    David

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    Hanrahan

    I never knew of Simon Parkes until someone here linked to him. So, curious, I subscribed.

    Watch this video. I will watch it again in the morning with a clearer head.

    https://youtu.be/jRU89n4scDE

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    CHRIS

    Totally agree, David. China is building a coal-powered station every month. China’s rot about renewable energy is laughable, and the UN falls for it. Regarding wind generation, the only state in Australia that would find it useful is Tasmania. You could run that island entirely on renewables (Hydro + Wind + a bit of Solar), but as for the mainland…forget it (despite what intellectually challenged individuals like Zali Steggall think).

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    David Wojick

    Pushback against Big Tech censorship.
    https://www.zerohedge.com/political/germany-and-france-shocked-over-twitter-decision-ban-trump

    The EU is already looking hard at the Technocrats.

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    R.B.

    US vice-president-elect Kamala Harris has landed on the cover of the February issue of Vogue magazine, but her team says the photo of Ms Harris which appears on the cover was not what both sides had agreed upon.

    Instead of the powder blue power suit Harris wore for her cover shoot, the first African American woman elected vice-president is instead seen in more casual attire and wearing Converse Chuck Taylor sneakers, which she sometimes wore on the campaign trail.

    Our ABC upset that Vogue upset Kamala. Or showing that the media treats both sides of politics with the same contempt.

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    Salome

    The other night on ABC News Radio/BBC World Service there was a show on Climate Change. When I switched it on, they were talking about Jakarta sinking into the sea (or the sea rising over Jakarta). A Dutch engineer was saying that keeping it above water wasn’t viable in the long term (disappointing, given my understanding that the Dutchman’s country is only above water thanks to the skill of Dutch engineers–you’d think they could help), then talk of relocating the capital to central Borneo, to the disproportionate benefit of the rich and bureaucrats, who could get there, while the poor would stay in Jakarta and lose everything to the tide. Is Jakarta disappearing under the water in the near future, anyone? (Or don’t we talk about this any more?)

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      el gordo

      Its old news.

      ‘It sits on swampy land, the Java Sea lapping against it, and 13 rivers running through it. So it shouldn’t be a surprise that flooding is frequent in Jakarta and, according to experts, it is getting worse. But it’s not just about freak floods, this massive city is literally disappearing into the ground.’ (BBC)

      … but the good news is that it has nothing to do with climate change.

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        Dennis

        Other examples are Venice Italy and Mexico City, but the latter was saved by pumping massive amounts of concrete into the ground.

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      David-of-Cooyal-in-Oz

      If I remember correctly part of the problem, and possibly the main part, is that there’s been massive removal of ground water, causing subsidence.
      Cheers
      Dave B

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    Graeme No.3

    Salome:

    That’s what you get for turning the ABC on. Only do it on rubbish night.

    https://www.fig.net/resources/proceedings/fig_proceedings/jakarta/papers/ts_06/ts_06_4_djaja_etal.pdf
    main conclusion “that the land subsidence is also influenced by groundwater extraction” As in Mexico city etc.

    For an overall view
    https://en-au.topographic-map.com/maps/eql0/Java/

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    Graeme No.3

    For the Health conscious

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    Research suggests that Resveratrol may help your health in the following ways:
    Help lower bad cholesterol
    Help reduce Cancer risk, Heart Disease and Strokes
    Antioxidant and anti-inflammatory properties
    Anti-aging and health benefits
    Reversatrol has been suggested as helping zinc absorption.

    Rich dark purple, the nose shows rich, succulent red and blue fruits, dark chocolate and mocha notes with hints of spice and cedary oak.
    In any case with 14% alcohol you may not care if it doesn’t work.

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    Kalm Keith

    A headline comment in the media:

    DOJ, FBI say more than 170 charged in US Capitol riot: ‘This is only the beginning’

    Will they be attending to the backlog of cases from last years BLM Riots, Aggression and Destruction first?

    Is there something wrong with a “democracy” that has a selective legal, punitive system that won’t see crimes perpetrated by those with certain political alignments?

    KK

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    Robber

    Australians all let us despair
    For we are split and banned
    We’ve golden soil and petty rules
    That keep us all locked up.
    Our land abounds in premiers laws
    And masks to keep us dumb
    In history’s page let it be said
    We’ve lost Australia fair.

    In saddened strains then let us mourn
    We’ve lost Australia Fair.

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    Yarpos

    Funny item over at Catallaxy.

    Some did a comparison of entries at the ever lefty slanted Wikepedia.

    Apparently Wikepedia has more to say about the recent storming of the Capital Building than World War II or general relativity or JFKs assassination or even Jesus Christ. Hysterical much?

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    OriginalSteve

    Data for people interested in the current COV19 silliness in the UK.

    From the notes within the as-downloaded data set :

    “Because of the coronavirus (COVID-19) pandemic, our regular weekly deaths release now provides a separate breakdown of the numbers of deaths involving COVID-19. That is, where COVID-19 or suspected COVID-19 was mentioned anywhere on the death certificate, including in combination with other health conditions.

    “Previously, the number of deaths with an underlying cause of respiratory disease was published a week behind the current week. These will now be published for the current week and revised the following week. Alongside this, a new bulletin summarises the latest weekly information and will be updated each week during the pandemic”

    Data source is here ( csv file ) – click on green xlsx green box to download the file .
    https://www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepopulationandcommunity/birthsdeathsandmarriages/deaths/datasets/weeklyprovisionalfiguresondeathsregisteredinenglandandwales

    I might draw your attention to the wording

    “That is, where COVID-19 or suspected COVID-19 was mentioned anywhere on the death certificate,
    including in combination with other health conditions.”

    So clear as mud then……

    And:

    “Estimated total death occurrences per week based on a statistical model, 2020, England and Wales 1,2,3

    “Because the number of deaths registered in a given week is typically less than the number that actually occurred in that week, we have developed a statistical model to estimate the number of deaths likely to have occurred in each week, based on previous experience of the time taken for deaths to be registered.

    So maybe COV19 caused a death, but also some fuzziness may exist around figures.

    How do you navigate a storm,lockdown a population and upend whole economies with rubbery info?

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    Rocket Rod

    No doubt one of the best climate sites out there, Electroverse, is being demonetised so if anyone is willing to contribute to their survival you can find out more here:
    https://electroverse.net/electroverse-has-been-demonetized/

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      el gordo

      The big story is the blizzard conditions in Spain and a new snow record.

      ‘Talking to Good Morning Europe, climate scientists Dr. Markus Donat said that Filomena was a truly exceptional weather event: “On one hand, we had this low-pressure system that moved from the Atlantic over the Iberian Peninsula. And this low-pressure system hit a stream of very cold air from the Polar Arctic region, combined with large precipitation provided by the same low-pressure system created the perfect conditions for this storm and this record amount of snowfall.” (Electrverse)

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    el gordo

    Emerging democracies need to be encouraged, even if they are not exactly free and fair. Small steps to eventually embrace the whole concept of democracy is the best way forward.

    https://astanatimes.com/2021/01/elections-in-kazakhstan-international-reactions/

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